psyker-class

[novel yoke]

europe

[zealous wing]

wanna squad and we can private match heresy? i can let you have specialist priority

[patent parcel]

I don't think that Arbi is their last class. They added 3 Character Slots with the Arbi release, not just one. I mean sure, you can also make three arbis with it, but why should you?

Tech Priest could add Canticles, multiple limbs to mount weapons on (like you could dual wield melee and ranged at the same time), absolutely bonkers high tech weapons, maybe manipulation of technological devices to create traps within levels, a potential mechanic to enhance their own weapons and those of allies with a Machine Spirit Mechanic (look at Mechanicus to know what I mean)...

A Tech Priest really could add new stuff, that wasn't there before really

[novel yoke]

sure I'm down

[zealous wing]

clad you wanna join?

[upper sun]

there was always 8 slots the rest were just locked

[novel yoke]

I can't use my mic rn though if that's an issue

[upper sun]

i gotta study 😭

[zealous wing]

not an issue, i dont mic either

rip, good luck clad

[patent parcel]

But the argument stays the same: Why then unlock all 3 instead of just one?

One could also argue that, if there always have been 8 slots, they plan for 8 classes

And now we have 5. So potentially 3 more.

[upper sun]

because a lot of people were using a mod to unlock all 8 and its easier to just unlock them all at once for them rather than dealing with which slot gets unlocked

[patent parcel]

I think people, who can code a video game can code, which slot gets unlocked, that sounds like a non-issue

If they couldn't do that, this game probably wouldn't be running at all.

[upper sun]

yeah people not fatshark

[patent parcel]

Fatshark are people

[upper sun]

we get returning bugs every other patch

[patent parcel]

Coding a working Multiplayer game is vastly more complex coding wise than programming character slots in a menu lol

[upper sun]

bomber curio perks protected against kicks for the longest time

[patent parcel]

Well, the result of Spaghetti Code, if you build upon foundational stuff and change foundations later, you get a lot of follow up bugs OR you need to spend way more time to program something new.

[upper sun]

why would they peroidically unlock slot by slot when they can unlock them all at once

[patent parcel]

Because it wouldn't be needed? Why didn't they start then with all 8 slots from the get go?

Why just 5?

[upper sun]

what does need have to do with the amount of work they have to do?

[patent parcel]

What work? It could literally be a single line of code, how many slots we get to use.

Are you a dev that knows their code?

[upper sun]

are you?

even if its one line of code it still has to be pushed, verified approved by steam etc

[patent parcel]

I'm not and neither do I claim such, I'm just speculating.
But you make the whole time definitive statements, as if you'd actually know the code

[upper sun]

so what makes your speculation better than mine?

[patent parcel]

If that would be an obstacle, the whole gaming market wouldn't know even the concept of DLC

At this point you're making up obstacles.

[patent parcel]

I'm not claiming to have absolute 100% sure knowledge

That makes it better.

Believe what you want, we can agree to obviously disagree

[marble crater]

Well it was 5 before they unlocked the remaining 3 for the 8 we have now

5 slots, 4 classes, why did they give us any slots at all if we had 5 slots for 5 classes with arby

Maybe to let people make more characters and have fun with duplicate classes

[wraith sphinx]

I think fatshark has a manpower problem

If they had more experienced employees we would be getting much more

[marble crater]

I blame clad for this

[wraith sphinx]

True

Clad ate them all

[patent parcel]

I read somewhere, that they have 200 employees, but you could be right with the lack of EXPERIENCED manpower. And also, VT2 got like 3 new maps this year while DT got none... it seems like for some reason they focus way more on VT2 than on their newer title DT, which is strange. Seems like 80% of their personnel is running VT2 and 20% DT.
Don't wanna say, that it should be other way around either, but a 60% on DT, their newer title with more players and more potential and 40% on VT2, that'd be okay.

I'm sure you would and I'm open to suggestions.
The problem is: That says everyone about every other persons build. So one can easily end up whole day debating with others about builds instead of actually playing lol.

[radiant frigate]

and that's fine by me, i enjoy buildcraft

[marble crater]

There are some things that don't need to be debated, like blazing spirit on melee

[radiant frigate]

Yes

it's not worth the blessing slot on anything other than trauma staff

and putting +crit +cara on surge nexus EK is definitely a choice

better to put flak/maniac and dedicate your greatsword to better dealing with big targets via cara/unyielding

plus fgs already bullies anything smaller than cara/unyielding anyway

blazing spirit would be better served if replaced with literally any other blessing

be it unstable, riposte, or deflector if you want more defense

having both your weapons be built for crit and then skipping mettle and perfect timing is also questionable

as is In Fire Reborn with pc/wildfire being your only real sources of soulblaze

[patent parcel]

It specifically is to deal with carapace armoured, big enemies, that also like to come in multiples and not solo, to kill them faster.

[radiant frigate]

since EK always hits center mass this is only relevant vs crushers

FGS is way better suited for this task

surge on nexus also only applies to the little bolts and not the actual lightning casts

[patent parcel]

The sword is inherently worse at dealing with carapaced targets, hence imho it would be a waste to try to mitigate that, when I plan to use the staff on them anyway.

[radiant frigate]

it's really not

plus if you intend to use a staff on crushers it should probably be trauma or voidstrike

[patent parcel]

Until all of them lift their huge sledge hammer and not at the same time but with like one second difference and you will get hit and downed, since Psyker is Squishy.

[patent parcel]

The sense is to stun and damage them to support the team. I'll experiment with Voidstrike in the Psykhanium to see, if it actually staggers them.
But damage wise both were more or less the same.

[radiant frigate]

in that case dodges and push attacks are your friends

any force sword push attack will knock down a crusher

and if cc is your consideration then trauma staff is the pick

as a full charge can send multiple crushers to the floor

[patent parcel]

That is an argument to be made

I'll try that out, sounds like a fun idea

[radiant frigate]

please do

it also fits better with soulblaze

[patent parcel]

Got a Traumablast stuff lying around somewhere too in my cabinet of ranged weapons lol

[swift eagle]

Huh so gunker is a thing people use. I thought it was just a meme.

[radiant frigate]

no it's very real since it goes along perfectly with melee psyker builds

[marble crater]

It's not a meme at all

[radiant frigate]

especially since the dawn of fgs, which is such a good generalist weapon that you can dedicate your ranged slot to specifically bosskilling

vraks iag or reconlas most commonly

[wraith sphinx]

Why would it be a meme

[radiant frigate]

because a lot of peolpe think psyker is just wizard

when it can be wizard with a gun

[marble crater]

I cast bullet storm

[wraith sphinx]

I should play dragon age origins again

And be an arcane warrior this time

Using the mind to augment the muscle

[swift eagle]

I've tried 6-7 different builds and tons of different runs where I've absolutely strugged to get it to work personally. I've been trying to figure it out, but if its a thing then my build is just not good haha

[radiant frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8f2ze72rr1s

[swift eagle]

No bolt pistol though huh? I guess not really good for boss killin then

[wraith sphinx]

I can give you some pointers if you can show me ur build

[radiant frigate]

unfathomably based

[wraith sphinx]

General considerations are to stick to the right side of the tree however

[swift eagle]

well first thing is first. I need to get some guns and im dead for dockets cause. brunt decided to give me a thousand + things with weird stats and nothing with even stats haha

[rigid sky]

I'm contemplating shifting something on my Deimos

it's a side-farm for my Voidblast or Inferno staves

both builds use brain rupture - inferno has shriek and siphon, voidblast runs EP and bubble

atm my Deimos is carapace/maniac/uncanny/deflector

thinking of swapping maniac to unyielding

am I stupid?

atm maniac is mostly just for muties

[wraith sphinx]

I like using flak maniac on melee and maniac unyielding on ranged

Melee maniac for muties ranged maniac for ragers

[swift eagle]

So I saw mention of infanty autogun, and the recon lasgun... What are the thoughts on the heavy laspistol, bolt pistol, and revolver regarding a gunpsyker build?

[wraith sphinx]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/tier-lists/weapons/9fe1a5bc-68c8-4aa3-83ab-072071e61e6e

This is my take on guns for gun psykering

[zinc phoenix]

Ok well then why ask questions in here if you care so much about the purity of the experience? People already asked and answered those questions and they’re written up in the build guides. Either you want that info and can check it or you don’t and don’t need to ask questions

I think arby is an interesting concept and when it isn’t ridiculously overtuned it’ll be fun to play

[patent parcel]

Because I prefer talking to people instead of combing through dozens of guides in the hopes that MAYBE they answer the question I have.

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️ there’s like 5 and they’re short

[patent parcel]

If it is something where I recon, that it is easily answered by a guide, I wouldn't ask in the first place

[swift eagle]

there a way to take a screenshot of your entire skill tree at once without needing multiple?

[zinc phoenix]

How would you know?

[patent parcel]

I meant in general, not just the pinned ones

[zinc phoenix]

There’s a mod

[upper sun]

we just recreate it on a website

[zealous wing]

theres a website we use

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[zinc phoenix]

That works too

[swift eagle]

awesome thanks

[zealous wing]

the mod for seeing the whole skill tree looks smooshed and horrible

[upper sun]

YOU WILL SCROLL AND YOU WILL LOVE IT

[zealous wing]

I DO

[wraith sphinx]

You love scrolling don't you

[static sonnet]

You can change how smooshed lol

[swift eagle]

You asked for my build, and admittedly its probably not very good. Just getting used to all the new things since I've not played in a year or two.

[zealous wing]

everyone who posts screeshots always has it the most squooshed

[patent parcel]

That was just one, not multiple. The problem is, to avoid the slamming down attack, you have to dodge, when it is right over their head, otherwise they just will follow you along with it and still kill you with it.

Believe me, I learned that the hard way, when I still was new. The problem is, if they start lifting at different times. Crusher 1 starts lifting, Crusher 2 a second later, Crusher 3 two seconds later. One of them WILL hit you, no matter how good you dodge.

Hence I found Kats argument to switch to Trauma Blast better, not only don't you need to go that close to them and can just knock them down, that way you can also safe a team mate from that fate.

[wraith sphinx]

This build is ok. What is the issue with playing gunker then?

[swift eagle]

it might be my choice of gun. I've yet to look at the list, but I was trying to use heavy las pistol with fgs

If the build is okay is there any suggestions you have for me regarding it? I'm always down to learn more and improve

[rigid sky]

laspistols are solid

I don't gel with them

but they fit what gun psyker wants from a gun really well

excellent finesse values, immune to suppression outside of SG, infernus helps with boss damage

accurate, hipfirable

which lets you abuse gunker mobility

[upper sun]

suppression? cant relate i staff

[rigid sky]

well laspistol is immune

and SG makes you immune too

iirc

since SG does, I just stick to my vraks 5 IAG

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-cat-car-cat-meme-cats-gif-13549128190129307854

idc

[rigid sky]

less carpel tunnel, and it absolutely destroys everything that isn't a crusher

[upper sun]

my hands only touch bolt weaponry

[rigid sky]

psyker boltgun when

[upper sun]

need more bolt weapons 🚬

[rigid sky]

it'd probably be an absolute piece of shit that doesn't gel with what Psyker wants at all or something

but idk

the thought of 1-magging a boss with it maybe?

would it be doable?

um where's my maelstrom mission fatshark

mission table doesn't have one at all atm?

[zinc phoenix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9fee6a51-5ff2-4adb-bf93-44c66931a29d

Assumes fgs

[zealous wing]

skill issue?

dodging isnt the only tool in a psykers toolbox is all im sayin

[swift eagle]

Where is the warp damage coming from the assail?

[rigid sky]

is cruel fortune even worth it with lingering influence?

[static sonnet]

No warp speed

[rigid sky]

I only bother with it when taking perfectionism

just takes a tiny bit longer at the start to build your stack

but you free up a talent point

[static sonnet]

Imo you also dont need Cruel Fortune if you aren't talking perfectionism

[zealous wing]

it depends if you're using assail. if assail its ALWAYS weakspot kill (unless mauler)

especially handy if suddenly, monstrosity

[rigid sky]

it is, yes, and you take high finesse weapons so you're always trying to get headshots anyway, not disputing that

just saying that with lingering influence you're just passively at 15 stacks anyway

CI doesn't change anything

CF rather

not sure what CI is lmao

[zealous wing]

a gunker is 90% melee, ive been told, but its more like 70% melee, 20% assail, 10% gun

[rigid sky]

assail is a thing you do while you do everything else

and an ammo saver

[swift eagle]

is ethereal shards and quick shards not that useful or a waste of points?

[rigid sky]

but still doesn't change that cruel fortune is unnecessary lol, if anything assail makes it more unnecessary because it's really easy for it to at least touch a blue boi

[zealous wing]

gun is mostly saved for big fuckers, or final event, when you can go crazy with it if youre not in high havoc

[rigid sky]

and reset your decay timer

even if it doesn't kill

plus it passively retains while you're fighting a boss too

DD's so user friendly now

perfectionism is still ass though

if you want to make that work, you need CF

but I don't fuck with it so I save a point

[rigid sky]

Ethereal shards are somewhat superceded now by warp splitting

you can combine both if you want

[zealous wing]

more damage faster is better, in most cases

[rigid sky]

but psyker points for WS and DD builds are very premium

[rigid sky]

honestly I've tried it both ways, give it a go without CF some time, it's the only way to really see how little it helps LI DD lol

[zealous wing]

in anything below high havoc i dont think it matters much

i havent been kidnapped to h40 in a couple weeks to run actual tests though

[rigid sky]

Eh, that's true I guess. On havoc the first encounter's already very high stakes lol

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah and the fgs swipe. You alternate between

[rigid sky]

I guess ramping up to reduce the chance of a first minute wipe is more valuable there

[zinc phoenix]

Weaving assail while shooting is pretty nice for damage

[rigid sky]

I still just think of gunker as an auric toy

if you're making it work on havoc then you know more than I do

[zealous wing]

reminds me

is there a mod for making the creature spawner mod allow havoc modifiers?

i know theres one for mortis trial boons

[swift eagle]

Last question is why go down Presience for crit chance vs Seer's Presence. 5% crit chance for everyone doesn't seem like a lot in the grand scheme of things, or is it purely to be able to pick up anticipation?

[zealous wing]

its a +5% crit chance on top of everything else

crit stacks up quick

it also gives easy access to this baby

[rigid sky]

5% crit is really solid

[zealous wing]

this applies to bullets, assail shards, FGS warp slice, its great

[rigid sky]

most builds are crit based

zealots will love you

vets will love you

other psykers will love you

seers' is really good too but I think gunker likes presience more, if anybody does

[swift eagle]

I did not notice that usually I only focus on the more obvious things so thats my bad

[zealous wing]

its especially lovely paired with one such node

[swift eagle]

Whats the purpose of Anticipation? I'm thinking maybe could use Warp Rider instead of it?

[zealous wing]

more dodge per dodge

[rigid sky]

isn't that actually an antisynergy lol

[zealous wing]

though why its there instead of warp rider i do not know

no, it isnt

[rigid sky]

guaranteed critical lessens the value of crit chance

since it doesn't rely on crit chance to trigger

[swift eagle]

Not Warp Rider, Warp Speed I meant my bad

[rigid sky]

it's minor but yeah

[zealous wing]

it means the other 5 have increased crit chance as well

[wraith sphinx]

More crits is more crits

[rigid sky]

yeah, I'm just saying it's not a synergy

it's a small antisynergy but it's still worth it because both develop your build's strength

and they both add up towards other crit synergies

just being pedantic about the specificity of your point rather than the general idea of it lol

[zealous wing]

much as i enjoy warp speed, more dodges is good to have when you dont have sciers active, movement speed doesnt help you dodge more

[swift eagle]

Fair enough. Now then just need to consider my weapons. I have a FGS with warp resistance dump, flak / carapace, warp slice, and deflector

mark 6

Maybe drop warp slice for shred?

[zealous wing]

uh

let me show you mine

[swift eagle]

I mean only thing different is warp slice vs unstable, so I guess I got it mostly right haha

[zealous wing]

yup had to double check

language brain isnt working so i needed a side by side

[swift eagle]

Why unstable over shred out of curiosity?

I'm guessing consistent damage or something?

[zealous wing]

+5% strength per 20% peril

so +10% at 40, +15 at 60, 20 at 80, 25 at 100

[zealous wing]

crits are crits

[swift eagle]

Aight well now just back to the grindstone. Need to get resources so I can get weapons and upgrade / feed them to hadron

[upper sun]

🚬 thank the emperor you werent here during the dark days

[swift eagle]

The dark days?

[zealous wing]

precrafting

everything was rng

[wraith sphinx]

Release darktide

[swift eagle]

Ah no I was. I played beta. But I stopped a long while back

The RNG was extremely frustrating to deal with haha

Basically got all the classes to 30 and then stopped.

or like how dueling sword used to be psyker and maybe zealot exclusive? I remember my veteran main friend absolutely complaining he didn't have access to the dueling sword

But nah I got my beta helmet if I wanted to wear it haha

[small bronze]

Pls share your Darth Sideous build for Psyker

[lyric burrow]

Back in my day we had to earn our weapons smh

[radiant frigate]

earn (like at the casino)

[lyric burrow]

You spent 2 million dockets for one good roll and you liked it

(It was then obliterated by hadron)

[zinc phoenix]

force greatsword has crummy dodge, anticipation is great for it because it increases the dodge time and adds a dodge. if youre using oscurus you can skip it

[zinc phoenix]

warp speed is really good

i like it for my EP assail build

also its worth remembering that people generally wont let you take SG in havoc because they havent cotton'd on to using smoke vet instead of bubble psyker yet

[upper sun]

i threw away all my relics unironically

i dont want any memory of that time

all except these https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1214727287845552138/f6a89e6cfe8ab3fa06a75526f879decb.jpg?ex=68d13d31&is=68cfebb1&hm=8f623b6e7e80f13209793b285cd120a9a562a163e9f7cbd8dc28f064e0be095b

[lyric burrow]

I think i kept my already perfect stuff

A lot of my rolls are probably ones i saved until crafting was impressive

[upper sun]

🚬 i spent like 3 days playing inventory

[lyric burrow]

And could make perfect

Yeah i remember needing to clear it

For a long time

Esp with emperors gifts thrown in

[upper sun]

now i have all the good stuff favorited so i can just sell everything

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i haven't touched crafting in months

[upper sun]

i wish they had an auto sell emperor's slop option

[lyric burrow]

Yes me too its the only thing that goes into my inventory now

[zinc phoenix]

I have an unholy pile of curios saved up for the inevitable rework of curios

Currently you can only scrap them for cash

My assumption is they’ll make curios scrap for resources + cash during the rework

[upper sun]

i dont have any curios saved up just the ones i use

[zinc phoenix]

I just don’t sell anything

[upper sun]

im maxxed out on dockets now

[zinc phoenix]

What’s the point

[upper sun]

they need to add docket sinks

[lyric burrow]

Yeah ive been stuck at 25 mil forever

Even when new weapons come out it doesnt touch it basically

[upper sun]

ill just clear my inventory after the new weapons thatll max me out again

we need a bar or player housing

[marble crater]

"Hope is the first step to disappointment"

[upper sun]

i wanna see my zealot in an empty room with a matress a bucket and a 25mil docket gold plated lacticio divintatus

[marble crater]

A what?

[upper sun]

i am not spelling it

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lectitio_Divinitatus

[marble crater]

I see, a daddy issue book

[zealous wing]

if i ever hit the 25mil cap i am pretty sure i'd just go and buy a bunch of random shit weaponry then sell it again

i dont like seeing how much i couldve earned and i get none of it

like with the xp and levels, thats why i like true level

[marble crater]

Or you could buy the cosmetics

[zealous wing]

lmao

ive almost bought out all the psyker stuff

[marble crater]

You will get there, if you play for another week

[zealous wing]

yeah ive got 6 psyker head pieces to buy, that i'll never wear, but i can just get them

no wait

4

one is from penance and another is from havoc

fuck it ill get that done

now i just have these to get and i will have all the free psyker stuff

i COULD buy the other classes' shit but like, why bother

it'd be like me buying the veteran cosmetics

[proper osprey]

Ohhhhh you wanna play zealot soo bad ooooooo

[zealous wing]

no

why the fuck would i play a zealot without magic when i can play a zealot with magic

[proper osprey]

Guh

[graceful arch]

Zealot without magic has funny wound synergy.

[proper osprey]

Martyrdom….

Sooooo yucky

[zealous wing]

ah yes, let me be a liability to the entire team

[graceful arch]

Only if you missplay slightly.

[zealous wing]

still a liability

[proper osprey]

I mean psyker does have more finesse and good crit

Not as much crit as zealot

Though

You get to experience high octane gameplay

[graceful arch]

The high octane zealot gameplay is running stealth with perfectionist and killing a captain in 1 hit

I love that build so much

[zealous wing]

if i see a shroudfield zealot my first assumption is they will never be present. same with arbites. and infiltrate veteran

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kusmak-yemek-gif-20829537

[royal totem]

idk, i'm always there as arbitrator lmao.

i like being near my team

[proper osprey]

Stealth so poopy

[zealous wing]

just because some mold makes penicillin doesnt mean i want it in my house

[graceful arch]

Never run it in h40 but it's fun to mess around with in mid 30's

[zealous wing]

im not gonna assume all mold is useful

like no shade to arby players who actually participate,

[graceful arch]

Just because most people don't know how to use a hammer does not make it useless

Stealth zealot is only as terrible as the person using it.

[zealous wing]

just because some people are good at using smite doesnt make smite good

[graceful arch]

[rigid sky]

I like to have hope for people when I see them

[zealous wing]

i did that this last match

[rigid sky]

it makes the journey along the road to disappointment one step shorter

[zealous wing]

2 arbys. no where to be fucking seen

[proper osprey]

How do I play this game

[zealous wing]

caused us to die several times because they would fucking wander

not help fight, not be useful, not take out the crushers, i had to do that to rescue the vet

[rigid sky]

Arby feels like it should be a great team support too with all of its abilities

[zealous wing]

i had to go res the vet several times

[rigid sky]

castigator is great for ressing under fire and for forcibly making space

break the line lets you basically spam the good bit of smite, with a power buff too

[zealous wing]

it DOES, but people see "oooh free coherency let me FUCK OFF ON MY OWN because my dog will keep me safe from trappers and dogs" "why's my team dead?"

[rigid sky]

and nuncio is great for blocking your team's ability to see

yeah idk why you would take that aura tbh

apart from penance

[zealous wing]

i see that thing i fucking leave

[rigid sky]

stagger damage aura too good

[zealous wing]

like, walk away

i dont fight near it

[rigid sky]

I mean nuncio is great but it's a bit of a large blob that likes to sit exactly at camera height

doesn't need that lol

[zealous wing]

bubble is superior

[rigid sky]

bubble is different

(and superior generally tbh)

[zealous wing]

superior

[rigid sky]

I like putting 1 extra point in nuncio for the team support shit, but skip the debuff

[zealous wing]

toughness regen, bulletproof, big enough to fight inside

[proper osprey]

Maybe my team should stop taking damage

[rigid sky]

the toughness regen part of bubble is underrated tbh

since psyker is so desperate to regain 100% toughness at every moment

it lets you more comfortably ignore melee chips

[proper osprey]

How can I get my team to stop taking damage

[royal totem]

idk, nuncio is pretty good imo

[marble crater]

If you barrel your team, they can't take damage

[proper osprey]

Good idea

[royal totem]

i play every class except vet. i hate vet

[proper osprey]

Arby ability is preference tbh

They are all good

[rigid sky]

Vet feels like ass today imo

[sturdy reef]

they cant take damage if they are dead

[rigid sky]

just feels like a less robust zealot

but dat ammo aura

[proper osprey]

They haven’t played dbarrel ws….

[rigid sky]

I like having one on my team, but it ain't gonna be me lol

I have actually

[proper osprey]

Guh

[rigid sky]

fun but feels a bit worse than zarona revolver ws?

[sturdy reef]

dbarrel ws is god

[rigid sky]

zarona ws actually feels pretty legit, it's what I usually play on vet nowadays

but it's still just my zealot build with fancy reload tech lol

[zealous wing]

i miss playing zarona revolver

[royal totem]

i............don't like the plasma gun. like i get it it's really good and does melt things well enough but i just still don't like it

[zealous wing]

plasma gun is for vets to practice playing psyker

[rigid sky]

yeah same

when it's good it's oppressive too imo

[royal totem]

i'd play gunker before i play vet lmao

[rigid sky]

never had a game degenerate more into named character + 3 unnamed sidekicks than with a plasma vet

[zealous wing]

you say that like gunker is a bad thing

[rigid sky]

gunker is addictive

[royal totem]

huh? gunker ISNT a bad thing. i respect good ones. i'm just not one of them

[rigid sky]

I think I enjoy twubber lugger more, but gunker has that blaze of glory feeling

best feeling of living on the edge

[zealous wing]

oh yeah

[rigid sky]

so powerful but so punished the moment you kark up

[royal totem]

i just can't get used to the delay on firing on plasma gun as vet lmao

I AM UNSTOPPABLE gets blown off

lmao

[zealous wing]

i had tears in my eyes

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1356041974922346626/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.03.30_-_22.40.24.01-00.04.20.598-00.04.27.387.mp4?ex=68d12dc0&is=68cfdc40&hm=b93cda54358d609bf65347e4a612fac88b2dee6e1e0d3973315caeb16ca5b1cf&

[royal totem]

i'd love to play with somebody here someday but i'm probs a lil too nooby

[zealous wing]

i dont mind any skill lvl tbh

[upper sun]

its ok we dont mind

[zealous wing]

i help people lvl up their fresh psykers, and im willing to be dragged to h40

[royal totem]

i'm a level 30 psyker. i'm still bad.

[upper sun]

im level 200 still bad

[zealous wing]

i actually enjoyed hanging back on uprising campaign with a few newbies, all learning how to play, just watching them n case things went bad and i needed to intervene

[royal totem]

i haven't cleared havoc 40. therefore i'm bad

[zealous wing]

i havent cleared h40 :(

[upper sun]

yeah i havent as well

[zealous wing]

ive gotten through h22

[wooden sand]

Dude uses mods to get 170 invisible levels to the normal eye

[royal totem]

i have a friend who clears h40 on every single class. and whenever i play with them i feel bad lmao

[zealous wing]

if you use havoc as a gauge for if someones good, then ainz is the best (solo h40 )

ainz IS the best but, thats not the point

[royal totem]

~~but Ainz is really good though ~~

[patent steeple]

btw, I think I might actually consider running inner tranq on an EK staff build, rather than just taking Warp Battery and ER.

the catch is that I use SG with it, so I guess you could say this build idea is kinda approaching the peak of Penetration of the Soul's usefulness...? (in my opinion, anyways)

[zealous wing]

how long have they played?

[royal totem]

uhhhh i think they have 2k hours in the game? might be more actually

[zealous wing]

welcome to orange

[swift eagle]

my poor ass, thanks brunt for the useless roll haha

[wooden sand]

If you really think about it

Ammo is a dump stat

[zealous wing]

actually god tier

[swift eagle]

wait what? ammo is supposed to be the dump stat?

[zealous wing]

some prefer mobility as the dump but ammo dump has cause me exactly 0 issues

[wooden sand]

Aham

[wooden sand]

Also damage dumping is better

[icy breach]

You shoudn’t; don’t envy a bird for the ability to fly as a fish

[icy breach]

Ammo dump 💀

[zealous wing]

im not joking, the less ammo has caused zero issues. the few bullets missing would not make or break a game

if it would, i'd be a shit gunker

i AM a shit gunker but you know what i mean. it'd be my own fuck up during gameplay not the gun

[icy breach]

Neither does 60 mobility; and considering no ways to make free shots on such a spammy weapon you don’t wanna tank your ammo

[wooden sand]

Willy the Papa is right

[icy breach]

Team is as strong as its weakest link; don’t be a reason for teams potential downfall

[zealous wing]

if 20 bullets causes the team to fail, then the team has bigger issues

[royal totem]

so ummmm

[icy breach]

The only weapons ammo dump is good is like
Helbores
Executioner shotgun mk 8

[zealous wing]

in what instance is 20 bullets going to save a match that assail or an FGS cant fix

[icy breach]

*22 to be precise

[icy breach]

Special that you might kill; but in all seriousness; have to look into it once i come home

[zealous wing]

specialists die to assail easy as fuck. next situation.

the gun is mainly for ogryns and monsters, or something assail cannot reach. i seldom run out of ammo anyway as is

i've run out of ammo on one match, and that was because my team was 3 dumbasses who wanted to fight a DH, so i cleared the way forward out of boredom

(it took them like 3 minutes to kill her 😭 )

[wooden sand]

Having 20 more bullets better than running fast with gun

[zealous wing]

incorrect

[zealous wing]

if you do lmk when you're coming i'll prepare food

[swift eagle]

biggest thing I found i really struggle with are... the dark maps / lights out and dunno what to do without feeling like im cheating by bringing up gamma, the train / timed mission, and karner twins

[zealous wing]

with lights out, its mostly map memory (knowing where to go), and listening

this game is like, 80-90% audio

everything has a cue

and, honestly, i also have gamma at max i think, doesnt help tons

[swift eagle]

itll take a bit given this is like maybe my 10th match since coming back haha, i wont have the map familiarity

[zealous wing]

with the train, its mostly reliant on you having a good team, or at least ONE good teammate

if you have one person who's keeping with you, you can get pretty much everything done

karnak twins is more about patterns and also teammates

like, they CAN be solo'd, but that takes practice and skill

good habit is take out the blade twin first, she's the biggest issue

but most people go for the ranged twin first because they think he's the biggest threat

[swift eagle]

first run with the gun build and its lights out aaaaaaaaa

[zealous wing]

oof, right now?

[swift eagle]

yeah itll take time and practice, well i wont learn without doing

yeah im dead

[zealous wing]

you got a bot slot?

[swift eagle]

nope. not atm, we're full but struggling. I think everyone keeps getting lost and we keep splitting cause it

[wooden sand]

Remember to crit

A lot

[zealous wing]

what gun

[wooden sand]

Thats how Gunker works

[zealous wing]

if the infauto it has a flashlight

special attack button

i remember QPing into a lights out map with an oggy. my gun had a flashlight and that ogryn stuck to me like glue

(other people can see weaponry lights)

the FGS when charged also glows, makes others see you better

[wraith sphinx]

I hope the new mortis trial map will be good 🙏 😭

[swift eagle]

and we set off a daemonhost rip

had 5 haha

[proper osprey]

That’s a whole mag

[royal totem]

ummm.......i should probably ask. why did i go from gray to red? 😮

[zealous wing]

... no?

[zealous wing]

you talked enough, now you can post images and gifs and such

[royal totem]

huh.........i see cool but also probs not gonna post any

[marble crater]

Because the bot automatically updated your role for being active enough and no longer being a suspected spam or bot account, rejoice

[royal totem]

Rejoice! Repent!

[young cliff]

not bot scum status achieved

still scum but less abominable at least

[zealous wing]

ive been playing so poorly today :(

my reaction time is SO slow

[royal totem]

i played embarassingly bad earlier

had a poxburster blow up in my face.....

[proper osprey]

Should’ve worded that better a good chuck of damage

[zealous wing]

3 FGS stabs worth

[royal totem]

and downed cuz a chaos spawn grabbed me before a fire grenade went off.......

[zealous wing]

i am trying so hard to play devil's advocate here and come up with a single situation where 22 more bullets would be game changing, and i cannot. if i run out of ammo, its likely i'd have run out in either set up, but even if i suddenly got the 22 extra bullets, it wouldnt do much of anything that FGS or assail couldn't have handled.

monster? melee it.
unreachable sniper that assail cant reach? just... continue forward and dodge it?
room of specialists? assail, or use SG and melee them
bulwark? stab it
reaper? stab it
maulers? melee them
ragers? melee them / assail them

people can get through CIVI maelstroms with a fuckin revolver, so ammo pickups aren't the issue, its conserving it for when you need it

so in my opinion, the way i see it, if you desperately need the extra 22 bullets, skill issue

[proper osprey]

Anyone know how to play this game

[zealous wing]

melee

[proper osprey]

How do I not take damage

[zealous wing]

block

dodge

keep moving

or just spend money and play arby i guess

[deft stump]

Or just play 300 ping.

You'll learn to predict things and 5 ping lul.

Random no damage taken melee 'nadier vet lul time.

[royal totem]

If you dont block, dodge, or keep moving....youll still die as arb. You can just get away with less of them...

I see arbs die all the time

[deft stump]

You play 300 ping and tell me.

[zealous wing]

true but im certain most of those people bought it because "meta means good therefore i dont need skill"

[ornate hamlet]

As a melee psyker chad

[royal totem]

Ur probs right lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Arby just made me immortal

I was already used to treating everything like lethal bullshit

[marble crater]

Most people bought arby because it's a new class to play and not because it made them stronger

[deft stump]

Vet main on arby, runs around headless and be fine.

[zealous wing]

tell that to the number of arby's i've seen ragequit over going down. not dying, going down. or being netted. or being knocked off a ledge and need to be picked back up. or also dying. it definitely attracted a certain... playerbase

[marble crater]

Stop playing in malice

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe we need to add an asterisk when we say arby is a W+M1 class

[zealous wing]

bitch this was auric

[ornate hamlet]

The asterisk will read "requires minimal knowledge of the combat mechanics"

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[zealous wing]

i FUCKING KNEW IT

:(

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

Excuse me, just panicking works.

[plucky flax]

I am veri noob

[marble crater]

AgentChaos is a known griefer who abandoned the emperor to grind in PoE2

[deft stump]

Press X to doubt.

[plucky flax]

The grind is way too hard

[ornate hamlet]

Peewee 2

[plucky flax]

1% exp per map

100 maps to level up

[deft stump]

Corrupting Zealots to Slaanesh is more fun anyway.

[zealous wing]

agent, i ask this genuinely

why the fuck

[deft stump]

Take them to bed and teach them the meaning of fun.

[marble crater]

Why the fuck what?

[zealous wing]

just, why

[marble crater]

Okay Yuri expert

[zealous wing]

why would you do that to yourself

[deft stump]

Are you playing Korean MMOs now?

[plucky flax]

Poe2

[deft stump]

10k+ kills for a lvl up on the highest xp per min farm?

[plucky flax]

Why not its better than playing dt atm

[marble crater]

Agent should play the Thirst Descendant

[plucky flax]

At least I have something to grind for (meme)

[zealous wing]

idk you could play some shit like vintage story

[plucky flax]

Dt is just dead game and this mortis trial update is not changing anything for me

Im playing poe2 and rping at the same time

Single player game can pause mid grind

[deft stump]

I can RP out of game.

[royal totem]

I see players of every class quit as soon as down btw

[zealous wing]

so have i, but not nearly as many of any combined as arby

[deft stump]

I have cycled like 9-10 players on just heresy.

Slacking hard, watch them run off, blep, bot says hi.

[proper osprey]

[proper osprey]

Sorry was me

[royal totem]

I...funnily see a lot of vets and ogryns quit

[deft stump]

Only yuri though.

[zealous wing]

maybe im just unlucky, then, or lucky, depends on how you see it

[royal totem]

And umm

[deft stump]

Oggies might stick, seen some apologise after every death when I dragged them through it.

[royal totem]

Its mostly the twin linked stubber ones i see

That quit

[bright summit]

What if their game crashed on down

[royal totem]

Thats nothing new. Who knows. This IS darktide

[proper osprey]

Zealot chat loves men

[royal totem]

I only really talk in psyker chat

[deft stump]

Do nawt care. Yuri best.

[proper osprey]

She hates bara

[radiant frigate]

it's cool that you like women but men are great too

[deft stump]

Bears bleah.

[proper osprey]

She hates twinks

[deft stump]

Femboys or twinks. Specifically NOT Yuri. Where you get two of them confusing me.

[marble crater]

What is happening

[royal totem]

Im staying out of it

[ornate hamlet]

Socrates and Aristotle are conversing

[royal totem]

Can anybody give me a good melee psyker build?

[ornate hamlet]

Grab the basic gun psyker build and melee instead of shooting

[verbal thistle]

alot of variations of it

what blitz and ability do you want?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f2fe53c-adc4-4e86-8012-2114d1bb9f75/my-melee-psyker

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f6c6f78-07e9-4f95-9d87-83051928de7c/psyker-melee-7

I use 2 different ones

but you can even switch out the blitz and abilities if you want

[royal totem]

Idk whats best

[verbal thistle]

nothing is the best

its what you like

[royal totem]

Fair. Im a filthy shield liker

[verbal thistle]

go for it

just swap gaze for shield

should be same amount of points used

[proper osprey]

But I’m a femboy

Actually I’m hungry

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269057322882437331/1356469802385936474/hoprblelysmal.gif

I should go eat Zaxbys

https://tenor.com/view/zaxbys-chicken-tenders-fries-texas-toast-zaxbys-chicken-gif-6231529661527782762

[wind wind]

Yes, go play arbites instead, where melee belongs

[proper osprey]

I’m actually a 3rd secret thing

[royal totem]

Thank you!

[wraith sphinx]

Fyrestone is Alpharius

[narrow herald]

Woah

[sturdy reef]

bro

[ornate hamlet]

stinky

[royal totem]

Very

[wraith sphinx]

slave of the meta corpse god

[royal totem]

Very.

I...am gonna ask a dumb question. What percent is it ideal to use smite to before stopping?

[prime elk]

usually, as little as possible

it's not so much a percentage issue

as whether the horde has been safely CC'd

and you can join the rest of the team in murdering the horde

[sturdy reef]

just dont run smite

[prime elk]

or that

[royal totem]

I see. How long does it take for them to be CC'ed is what i havent figured out

[marble crater]

Like a second or two at most

The further away, the longer, as smite needs to spread there first

[pale prairie]

The best use of smite is when there are too many enemies for your team to focus at once OR to CC a big stack of ragers/carapace for your team to destroy. I think it’s best to smite shove to get everyone on the ground so you can help kill instead of holding forever.

[royal totem]

smite shove?

[marble crater]

I think the best use of smite is kinetic flayer

[marble crater]

Smite, let go of smite

it throws enemies to the ground

[royal totem]

huh i see

i'm gonna be a newb and ask what is kinetic flayer? >.<

[marble crater]

Doesn't throw enemies on the ground if you reach 100% and it gets canceled

A brain burst add on

[royal totem]

oh >.<

[pale prairie]

Kinetic flayer is a sub node of BB that every 15 seconds has a chance to activate on an elite you are currently damaging. Smite means you are guaranteed to proc it cause so many targets damaged every sec

[marble crater]

Think about what you just wrote

[royal totem]

Lmao

[zealous wing]

i dont think he knows

immortalise

[pale prairie]

Oh damn you tricked me. This is what happens when I try to discord while writing for DnD

Definitely not baiting….

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

We all only write 100% serious things here

Like Frostpunk tutorial being too hard

[granite stratus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1377115531865358437/mybeloved.gif

[marble crater]

It was, but I managed without lower difficulty

[upper sun]

🚬 if you were on pc you could have cheated

[marble crater]

Cheating removes all the fun for me

[radiant frigate]

siblings, hit him with fgs special

[radiant frigate]

i mean technically EK casts are a type of smite

[marble crater]

No, that would mean I am a Smyker, and I am NOT a Smyker

[thorn cedar]

https://youtu.be/OT1xC1bzDJs?si=_8J8pUoZZPZ8T6Hf

[radiant frigate]

you should smite heretics... NOW ⚡

[marble crater]

Maybe later

[radiant frigate]

that's my secret, captain
I'm delusional at all times

[zealous wing]

they didnt need to add this kind of detail on the mag but they did

like, i do have some respect for fatshark

for stuff like this, whoever does it, kudos

[upper sun]

equip grenade on vet or zealot and press inspect like 20 times

or knife on psyker

[radiant frigate]

check mag
many boolet :)
ratatata
check mag
no boolet :(

[zealous wing]

when my revolver bugged, and the front half was missing, the bullets also changed to just the casing for the ones fired

[upper sun]

SO

night cap anyone?

[radiant frigate]

the only thing fatshark didn't consider is arby somehow mashing 6 boolet into revolvers with only 5 visible slots for boolet

[upper sun]

we dont talk about the arby reality bending talent

[zealous wing]

ok thats fun as hell

[radiant frigate]

number 6 magically materializes upon closing the revolver

revolver is empty
put 5 boolet in
shoot 6 times
??

[zealous wing]

arby gaslighting the player

[radiant frigate]

sick little animation

love it

[zealous wing]

just like m loner gaslights the arby into "false accusations is it? i am not surprised!"

(i like shooting the arby's to get these lines)

[radiant frigate]

not as cool as vet gaslighting

revolver empty
kill something in melee
revolver has boolet again upon draw

when did it get there? wouldn't you like to know!

[zealous wing]

[lapis fern]

with empowered psionics with assail does the charged up perk do anything? since assail doesnt us up the EP charge do the 2 extra stacks do anything?

[zealous wing]

it lets you have 3

basically you go from 10 to still 10 but 3 dont count

(so 13)

[lapis fern]

ah ok

[zealous wing]

3 cost absolutely nothing

and with the toughness one i had fun with, free half toughness bar

honestly if they made it a bit stronger it would be something similar to a vet shout for toughness regen, but its still nice in the right circumstances

[patent steeple]

it would be much better if it procced on blitz activation, so you could get the toughness from activating smite...

[royal totem]

i......have more questions i'd really like to ask. >.< sorry i'm trying my hardest to understand psyker better

[radiant frigate]

dewit

ask them all

[zealous wing]

we all learn somehow someway sometime, better to ask early on than have to unlearn tons of bad habits later

[royal totem]

I'm trying to figure out what's good about Electrokinetic force staff. I think I just don't really understand what's good about it. Not hating on it, just don't understand

[radiant frigate]

good at cycling through peril so it keeps you decently safe
very easy to use, just full charge and vaguely point in the direction of threats

excellent single target damage, easy triggers on perilous combustion

goes extremely well with creeping flames shriek

[marble crater]

also pretty mobile gameplay

compared to the other staves at least

[radiant frigate]

yeah that too, it is decently mobile for a staff

[royal totem]

huh i see. .......

still trying to process why use it over inferno staff or trauma staff.

cuz it seems to me it kill a bit slow. but i might just be bad

[marble crater]

To hunt specials and elites for maximum shriek spam

[cosmic cobalt]

single target

[royal totem]

i see.

i think

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean it does spread a little

[zinc phoenix]

That trait is really bad

[royal totem]

what makes it so bad?

[strong gulch]

EK isn't aoe and has a different use case. It's more or less single target focused, with higher mobility, easy aiming, longer range without needing to work for it (get those specials and shooters), faster casting, and is the better staff for enabling shriek spam.

It's faster paced gameplay that inferno, which is a huge plus for some. Many don't like VB / trauma's aiming or how boring it is to play inferno.

EK doesn't scale great in havocs tho.

[marble crater]

Too situational and your team should worry about their own toughness

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah

[upper sun]

doesnt give toughness often enough in situations where you need it

look at your toughness when using EP chances are you have full toughness

if you have enough space to use blitz you prolly dont need toughness

[cosmic cobalt]

also you have to pick ep in the first place

[zinc phoenix]

It only gives toughness when you’re killing stuff which means you’re already getting toughness for killing stuff thanks to “kill stuff with warp attack for toughness”. But instead of “kill any stuff with warp” or “quell” it’s “kill stuff which gives you a charge”

So it’s extremely random when you get toughness barring situations where you’re using ep assail to like merk an entire elite blob. And since it isn’t gold toughness (which would instantly make it comically op) it often shows up when you really don’t need it

I tried it for the past few days and while it sounds like a lot it’s really just dogshit compared to taking the two toughness traits on the top left of the tree

[royal totem]

huh, thanks for the detailed explanation .

[zealous wing]

i wish devils claw was more viable as a general weapon

i have one in my inv and just because i used to main it, gave it a test on a crusher, it literally does make you invulnerable damn near

damage isnt great of course, which is what i mean by viable, but, it DOES make you really hard to kill

[royal totem]

h ow does it make you near invuln?

[zealous wing]

parry

you can spam the special attack button and it deals damage in addition to blocking

it works on plague ogryn attacks, crusher overheads, etc

you can still be grabbed, gotten by a trapper, a dog, or eaten by a Beast of Nurgle

but any melee attack you're completely safe from

[dense flume]

Don't overheads take all your stamina and do the stagger thing to you? Trying to remember, been a while

Or wait, perfectly timed parries take significantly less stamina, though right?

[zealous wing]

i believe so, also, kinetic deflection

[dense flume]

That'll make a big difference, too lol. Been on an "off meta" weapon kick lately. Think you just convinced me to make it the next one on the list

[zealous wing]

the only real evidence i've been shown is that heavy sword can oneshot a mutant but devils claw cant, so if you can make it do that it'd be better than heavy sword

(or even nearly oneshot tbh)

[pale prairie]

Guys we are cooked according to Reddit.

Psyker worst than vet

[dense flume]

How'd you know I was using heavy sword

[pale prairie]

“Off meta”

[dense flume]

Well I guess that's fair.... Could have been chain axe or something though, no?

[zealous wing]

be honest no one in their right mind would even try a chaxe

its hopeless

and its unnecessarily loud and obnoxious (i hate all the chain weapons)

[zealous wing]

i wonder how they calculated this

from their own clutch successes?

what if they're just a really shitty psyker

we'd need someone like Ainz to weigh in on this

Ainz has absolutely mastered not even the basics, the game itself

[zinc phoenix]

Chainaxe is kinda fun

[zealous wing]

username checks out

[dense flume]

I'll probably try the other mark, but the one with the moveset I prefer has that saw effect on the light attacks and it's kind of annoying to be locked into that animation, however brief.

[zealous wing]

the sound of chain weapon on carapace is a curse on my ears that i will never be able to forget

i tested it ONCE

i will never touch a chain weapon again

i dont care if they get broken and instakill everything they touch.

[dense flume]

I get that. It doesn't bother me as much as that, but I get it

[royal totem]

i.......don't like the sound either lmao

[marble crater]

I just had a Karien in my team

[wispy bay]

Did she carry?

[marble crater]

I don't know if they carried, but they were yapping

[wispy bay]

Pay more attention to the game next time then.

[marble crater]

I refuse

[zinc phoenix]

Was there screaming whenever mildly threatening creature showed up?

[pale prairie]

Yapping is fun

Better than a fan blowing into the mic and loud chewing, coughing, snorting

[zealous wing]

audio feedback

though its kind of tolerable sometimes

it depends what difficulty im running

if its a difficulty im listening to my own music on, its not that big of a deal, but if its something i need serious mode for, muted, sorry bud

reminds me, i dont suppose theres a mod for adding a hotkey to mute/unmute comms?

[pale prairie]

Wait a minute I thought you didn’t play anymore

Except to sabotage clad

[zinc phoenix]

I set voice volume to zero unless it’s havoc and if the havoc group is mildly annoying on voice I bounce

[royal totem]

feels like it takes 4 charges (or is it 5) or so of EK staff to kill crushers or bulwarks. am i somehow doing this wrong? is this what it's supposed to take?

[zinc phoenix]

You use zap stick to spread fire by killing specials and gunners with it. Then you use the peril to spam maxed out shriek

The fire kills all the stuff

[royal totem]

ahhhh ok that's probably .....ok i see

[zinc phoenix]

You can use the zap stick to open up a bulwark and then stab it in the face, that’s pretty nice

Also the fire procs can trigger head pop from kinetic flayer

[marble crater]

Kind of

[zinc phoenix]

So things will just randomly die

[marble crater]

I didn't say that

[royal totem]

ok i see

[zinc phoenix]

Including bursters

[royal totem]

i'm.......gonna change my build then

i was playing shield with EK which may be where i went wrong

[zinc phoenix]

Make sure you check the builds in the pins

[zinc phoenix]

Yes that is not a good combo

[marble crater]

EK really wants to shriek for more EK which results in more shriek, which gives more EK

[royal totem]

fair enough. alright lemme try that

[marble crater]

I died because I dodged into a sniper shot that was aimed at my teammate

[zinc phoenix]

Warp charges for more shriek, you want em

[royal totem]

How dare your teammate not take it. im jking

[marble crater]

They were busy not getting exploded by bursters

[pale prairie]

That is a very special skill level

[marble crater]

[zinc phoenix]

Recently I died because I dodged a mutie on the pipe after the end event on hab dreyko

No railing so I went zooming off into space and instant death

[royal totem]

Ooof

[pale prairie]

"HAH YOU CAN'T GRAB ME IF I JUMP OFF THE MAP!!!"

Win the battle, Lose the war T.T

[restive slate]

Imagine if Mutants can grab us out of ledges, nets and dogs

[royal totem]

Might make them a godsend

[restive slate]

I honestly feel Muties are the least threatening special

Unless they allow them to pound us against walls to prevent wall hugging defence

[pale prairie]

Muties are scarry cause you eat damage while being held

snipers, flamers, etc

[restive slate]

I had my fair share of deaths from MutieXSniper/Poxburster teamups

[bright summit]

Yeah I've seen quite a bit of Mutie x sniper too if you know what I'm talking about

[restive slate]

Heart beating fast as the laser follows me in the Muties hand

[sturdy reef]

hopefully this havoc reset they spice things up

even a bit

please

[stuck spruce]

trapper can catch you in the air, happened to me few times, supposed the game consider i was still in the same place until i touched the ground on my "landing zone" even if i was in jump animation

[lapis fern]

Is there a build with the class perks to make the voidblast staff better? Played a game of auric as a different class and the psyker was using it and was just deleting groups of enemies but I’m kinda struggling with it in the difficulty before auric

[mental kayak]

@atomic tapir

help this man like you did to me

[dense flume]

does true solo whatever mod it is that lets you do havoc solos work in whatever state havoc is in? thought maybe it just creates a local match or something, so could work without the servers needing to run havoc, idk

[jovial juniper]

Yes
But it's essentially Scriers Gaze

Solely for the critical chance

Other than that just stick to shriek

Soulblaze away

[celest valve]

depends on your stats, staves are particularly sensitive to poor stats

especially EK staves as crits matter a lot for penetration

[atomic tapir]

@lapis fern https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f5e954b-c08e-4f4d-956d-317e5d4c53db/artillery?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Try this. You can one shot crushers when you crit. Keep scriers up as long as you can and half charge spam when you are at 100% peril with the lingering effect.

[royal totem]

i have a perfect stat roll

[celest valve]

As in fully upgraded 80s across the board except for a 60 in... warp resist probs?

[royal totem]

yes

[lapis fern]

I’ll give that a shot tomorrow, thanks. Didn’t like gaze when I used it for penances but I was also using a different staff and blitz so it might have just not been as good as it could be.

[atomic tapir]

I just realised you meant voidblast. Yeah scriers is pretty good with it as you crit more often. So same thing can apply.

[zinc phoenix]

I do a sg assail ep build with it that’s pretty fun

Fully charged with high peril it smokes crushers

There’s also a pinned voidstrike guide which is solid

Oh you mean trauma

Trauma is just the usual left side shriek with a focus on fire

[lapis fern]

With trauma/void blast do you always max charge it before firing or if it’s only 1 enemy/small group is no charge or half charge a better thing to do for dps/peril reasons

[proper osprey]

Gaze

[proper osprey]

I’d still run bb and pc no need for smite

[royal totem]

i don't. but don't listen to me. i'm bad. sometimes i do like 50-90%

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e649e67-2be4-46c0-8293-31b1fa98a69f/terrible-trauma-build @lapis fern

Question I know flak is the anchor perk but what about unyielding, carapace, or maniac?

[strong gulch]

Just to be clear. VB / trauma with SG is fun. It's not the meta build, but it's fun. VB with shriek is meta.

Idk what "better" as a metric means. More fun? Workable for you in particular? Damage maxixng?

[proper osprey]

I was about to ping you guh

[modest perch]

crit for fire carapace for rending

[proper osprey]

I mean I don’t think that 5 crit will do anything

It’s better to have a damage against a different type of enemy

[atomic tapir]

Yeah run whatever you want. It's mostly there for bursters or when someone goes down.

[strong gulch]

IDK about the optimization of crit chance or not on a VB SG build.

It's not unyielding tho. VB's damage to them is so bad that you should use something else to kill them.

[proper osprey]

It’s mid for bosses but what about bulwarks and reapers

That’s the question I’m asking

[strong gulch]

still worth stabbing instead

[proper osprey]

But I blast da bulwark

And he dies

Can I blast him one less time?

[strong gulch]

Eventually yes. Blast em if you want

[proper osprey]

[strong gulch]

I can't remember. I'd have to test but I'm kinda burnt out on the game and should go to bed.

[proper osprey]

How so? Like walk up with deflector?

[proper osprey]

Guh

[strong gulch]

Knock over or M1 to suppress then stab.

[proper osprey]

Ahhh yeah

Not wrong

[strong gulch]

You could test M1 spam to the head to see if unyielding is worth it for you in particular.

[proper osprey]

I wouldn’t think so on m1

That would be more surge

[strong gulch]

It'd be a niche case and leaving crusher damage on the table, BUT I'm team flak + what you hate most.

oof yeah

gotta go to bed

gh

gn

[heavy hamlet]

Is Obscurus horde clear combo Light Heavy Light?

[cosmic cobalt]

obscurus combo is clicking on the "mark" on the top right and use deimos or illisi insteead

[wraith sphinx]

Yes

L1, H2, L1

[radiant frigate]

that may have been the case pre-FGS patch

but it's good now

[quartz barn]

Imagine using illisi when fgs exists

[cosmic cobalt]

what blessing on fgs again

[proper osprey]

What build

Bubble or gaze?

If gaze I do shred and riposte

Or shred precog

Or wrath

All are good

Crit blessings are the anchor

[modest perch]

nobody knows tbh

[cosmic cobalt]

this shit is ridiculous

[proper osprey]

Tax axe could have done that in like 1 second

[cosmic cobalt]

no it was about the fucking lag

[proper osprey]

Guh

Yeah servers die when an update is being released

[cosmic cobalt]

i died and lose my dd stack

[proper osprey]

Owari da…

[radiant frigate]

imagine using illisi after the dawn of warp-splitting

[zealous wing]

if youd had FGS lag wouldnt have been an issue

(source: i was rubberbanding like crazy on a havoc and still did fine, just ask bean)

[marble crater]

Today the update NDA is lifted, should finally get some news, if not from fatshark then from youtubers

[spice oar]

We shall see

[wraith sphinx]

Now that the NDA is lifted, Sefoni has told me it's confirmed great unclean ones and plague marines are coming as new enemy types to darktide

[spice oar]

By the name alone, has to be vet rework, right?

[wraith sphinx]

no lol

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-space-marine-dropkick-black-templar-gif-3633792756769275524

[wraith sphinx]

it's a new mortis trial map and a new enemy type

[spice oar]

I mean yeah we know that much

[wraith sphinx]

if it were a class rework it would have been teased by now

[spice oar]

See that’s the thing

There’s been a transfer in the community managers for darktide or something

And that seems to be causing communication issues

[marble crater]

Hopefully that is the reason and not "lul, we don't have any content to tease"

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah I can imagine that causing the announcements to be terse but I can't imagine that means there would be something more to the update

I think you are all going to be very dissapointed tomorrow

[summer prairie]

It's definitely more than mortis stuff, a weapon and an enemy

[marble crater]

No, I don't have any expectations, they all vanished when I saw it was Mortis Trials map

[wraith sphinx]

hey, mortis trials are fun now at least

[marble crater]

Sure, but I want to move through a map and not stay in the same little area for the entire mission

[summer prairie]

There's also going to be many new mortis blessings, but I expect things beyond that

[wraith sphinx]

you have every other map in the game for that however

[marble crater]

And that is why I play them and don't care much about Mortis updates

[wraith sphinx]

fair

I am definitely looking forward to it myself

[marble crater]

If there are new blessings I will test them and the new map, but I don't see myself playing mortis all of a sudden

[summer prairie]

There were a ton of localizations for various crit based talents/blessings a while ago and I assume it's all Mortis stuff since they sounded a bit busted

[marble crater]

Finally something more geared towards psyker

[summer prairie]

most likely a new archetype

[wraith sphinx]

that would also be pretty cool

[wraith sphinx]

a gunker treat 😋

[marble crater]

Gunker already has some good archetype options, as far as I remember none of them are really good when you play staves, it's like they just forgot about them

[plucky flax]

Same

Back to poe2 grinding

[wraith sphinx]

yes, nothing staff synergistic, as opposed to something as death dealer which synergises with gunker very well

[upper sun]

"Unknown, but media embargo will lift in 5h"

news in 5 hours

[summer prairie]

There's going to be streams too on the affiliate server

[glacial vapor]

Of course they're waiting until I'm on my way home to announce it ffs

[plucky flax]

It'll be new mortis map.

Much excitement.

[glacial vapor]

I'm sure there will be more than that

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[upper sun]

melk rework

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

melk is worse now

[glacial vapor]

Can we hurry it up, I'm running low on cope

[wraith sphinx]

such cope! such cope!

[dusk timber]

Remelk

Melwork?

[wraith sphinx]

Melk reloaded: you will be Melked for all you're worth

[upper sun]

melkbucks now used to gamble for random cosmetics

[wraith sphinx]

1% commodore's vestures item 99% exclusive recolors of commisary stuff

[upper sun]

1%?

[wraith sphinx]

my bad

0.01%

[upper sun]

thats more like it

[obtuse dome]

0.00000000001

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%

[upper sun]

WAIT

KITEFIN IS LEAVING

DO WE NOT HAVE CMS NOW????

10 DAYS AGO