psyker-class

[radiant frigate]

while casting you are already getting toughness from whatever you're casting at

when not casting you get nothing

[wraith sphinx]

you underestimate fatshark's obtuseness

[icy breach]

Usually warp expenditure is outclassed by other toughness generators; however it works very well in scriers builds & its a nice help for smite; there is a reason i take it in my smite build

[zealous wing]

i am curious in what instance hiding in a corner generating and quelling peril is the best way to get toughness back

[near gale]

At that point inspiring barrage is more efficient

[radiant frigate]

when da team dead and no toughness and pinned down

[strong gulch]

DH

[radiant frigate]

but then you have to run something that has it

[near gale]

tru

[radiant frigate]

epic brauto psyker time

[icy breach]

Pinned by gunfire with no toughness & no way to kill them at the range you’re at; it happens - and shriek/scriers 50% peril quell with quietude is goat

[wind wind]

[icy breach]

Ppl assume quietude/expenditure is bad cause majority of the psykers have low base toughness = less gain

[zealous wing]

what weapons, build?

[quartz barn]

If this happens its a flaw in your build

[zealous wing]

yeah the only case this happens is if youre using smite

[quartz barn]

Also usually the reason why you pick assail/bb

[icy breach]

As i said; scriers builds & smite builds, weapons don’t matter that much but all exept purgatus generate peril fast

[strong gulch]

But also quietude offers non kill or attack toughness gen. You can control when you get toughness even out of combat situations.

It also helps top up toughness while quell sliding. Mostly a staff thing.

These days I often drop quitude tho.

[quartz barn]

And even then you can get out with proper crabwalking

[zealous wing]

i literally just have the other two top nodes, mettle and the other one, for my SG. its fuckin fine

[icy breach]

Flaw that in a long lane there are 15 gunners fully spun up at you? Bruh

[zealous wing]

EE

deflector

[quartz barn]

Yes lol

[zealous wing]

warp slice

fire spread by BB

shriek with fire

[quartz barn]

Theres so many options to deal with that

[cosmic cobalt]

this is what i used to think but honestly nah

[zealous wing]

fucking smite them then

smite and knock them over

if smite is so good use it

[cosmic cobalt]

that happened like once in a blue moon

[quartz barn]

Nah kinda common in high havoc

[icy breach]

On any blitz if you get close by slide dodging and smite the group you’re golden

[cosmic cobalt]

plus just critting off the nearest poxwalker fill up your toughness anyway with mettle

[quartz barn]

But that just reinforces my point

[strong gulch]

Right side builds also more easily drop quietude as general thing.

[quartz barn]

If you dont have something to deal with that its on you

[zealous wing]

then why tf are you pinned

it is quite literally, a skill issue

[quartz barn]

Not "director fucked me with rng" like most people claim

[strong gulch]

Fast gun pew pews with mettle vs slower to hit staves.

[zealous wing]

if youre pinned down by 15 gunners, and you need toughness, ... to what? get it shredded the moment you step out and die anyway?

[cosmic cobalt]

purge staff

plus you have soulstealer

[icy breach]

Cause you may be chipped and if you try to push even with sliding your toughness will get some shots and you get stunned & die; being able to gen toughness on your own without enemies is good, even if marginal

[cosmic cobalt]

poxwalker are literally free toughness everywhere

[quartz barn]

You need toughness in case you get hit, but you honestly shouldnt get hit at all

While closing the gap ofc

[icy breach]

Tfw you get gunner feed with no dedicated range clearer on your team

[quartz barn]

Only hide when youre waiting for a cooldown

[cosmic cobalt]

your ass is psyker fym waiting for cooldown

[quartz barn]

My guy you can facetank a reaper squad with ee

[icy breach]

Or too dangerous to push; all depends on a situation

[cosmic cobalt]

there is no cooldown

[zealous wing]

in fact i do, regularly

only time i need cover is to reload

[quartz barn]

Ye same lmao

[quartz barn]

Bubble

Thats about it tbh

[icy breach]

If you can proc it
With a crit gun on scriers build ye its ez but try getting to 5+ reapers who are beyond 15m

[quartz barn]

I do it with purg?

[zealous wing]

i would also possibly wait in cover for SG cooldown to finish so i can run faster, but even still

[quartz barn]

Crabwalk into range

[cosmic cobalt]

what cooldown

[quartz barn]

Lmb once into rmb

Ez

[icy breach]

There is also shield i forgot every purgie uses one

[cosmic cobalt]

assuming you run staff psyker you probably already using psyketnetic aura

there is no cooldown

[icy breach]

Every build unless assail

Or stupid

[zealous wing]

there is, clearly, if youre pinned and dunno how to get out

[icy breach]

[cosmic cobalt]

only gunpsyker use assail

[quartz barn]

Without kills theres a 7 sec downtime

[cosmic cobalt]

even then running aura is better

[quartz barn]

Happens sometimes

Or if bubble breaks ofc

[icy breach]

Its not strict tbh

[zealous wing]

i would disagree, purly because SG downtime is so minimal

assail is far more useful

[cosmic cobalt]

it for your team

not for you

[zealous wing]

fuck the team

[quartz barn]

Lmao team

[cosmic cobalt]

REAL

[zealous wing]

i kill the shit that'd kill them, thats my job

[quartz barn]

Unlucky for some

[zealous wing]

lmao

[cosmic cobalt]

anyway more shout + more taunt = good

[icy breach]

Who thought that was a good idea

[cosmic cobalt]

fuck chorus

[zealous wing]

thats assuming the team HAS those abilities

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-grenade-truth-nuke-gif-6248133608324632914

[quartz barn]

Potato today

Not joking btw

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean it havoc

[zealous wing]

even still

[icy breach]

They are as common as flies around shit mah dude

[near gale]

like woundgryns in the early days

[icy breach]

ANY ability really; more casting = more winning

[zealous wing]

and also, what havoc

[icy breach]

I forgot 4+ woundgryns were a thing

[zealous wing]

if i get dragged into an h40, sure, but i am not gonna be pushing for high havocs :p

[near gale]

It has calmed down a lot since 2023

[icy breach]

Maybe its for the best my lil princess

[near gale]

used to be like every other match with an ogryn

[icy breach]

Srsly tho; why?

[zealous wing]

i dont enjoy it

[icy breach]

Fair take

[zealous wing]

though i do enjoy mortis, so theres hope for havoc in the future, but, not any time soon

[ripe obsidian]

Every class needs a martyr build. Psyker needs to be a suicide bomber with a headsplosion on par with Ogryn nuke. Ogryn needs to be able to go into a berserk rage, drop all weapons, and just tear enemies apart with their bare hands.

Make wounds meta.

Mostly because it would be really funny.

[zealous wing]

honestly yeah make the psyker explosion more deadly, and it'd already work

[near gale]

It would be for sure lol

[zealous wing]

i did it early on when aiming for the penance for it, it was kinda fun nuking myself

it would make crystal will useful

[ripe obsidian]

Imagine being the hero intentionally blowing yourself up to shove a chaos spawn off a ledge

[near gale]

Ironically I got that on the 1st or 2nd try. When I went to blow up I felt it was good, and it was good

[wraith sphinx]

gotta be the ranged clearer yourself...

holy fuck, randoms would rather die than bring a loadout capable of ranged clearing

[zealous wing]

oh btw, the ammo dump on vraks is working perfectly fine

[wraith sphinx]

it always has to be me and my siblings

[near gale]

You mean heresy matches?

[wraith sphinx]

unless it's smykers

grrr

[zealous wing]

i still have to TRY to empty my stock

[icy breach]

Just like krieg from borderlands 2 when he goes to fight for your life with that one skill where he starts theowing dynamite

[icy breach]

Havoc ofc

Any gamemode really

[upper sun]

havoc bad

i had that in auric tho

[icy breach]

Go back to the ocean or i’ll blow it up

[upper sun]

about 4 reapers and a bunch of gunners/1 sniper

[near gale]

The joke was that heresy matches 100% end up like that if you don't bring an everything build

[upper sun]

had to head bop for a bit but went fine

[upper sun]

havoc bad

[ripe obsidian]

It would be pretty hilarious to have unlimited grenades for a while. Or to drop a ton of cluster grenades when you go down

[strong gulch]

Hi

[strong gulch]

No. Is bad. Is funny.

[marble crater]

Psyker number 10 is lvl 3 already

[zealous wing]

they grow up so fast 😭

[strong gulch]

Might level 30.

Or is that sefoni stop moaning?

No. Wait. I'm farming bad gear on that one

[marble crater]

How dare you try to nerf her

[near gale]

Just remake your 2nd psyker like 20 times smh my head

[zealous wing]

idk whats funnier, that they apparently already nerfed sefoni, or that if you turn off the ingame music you can still hear her moaning

[near gale]

Yes

[marble crater]

Never forget what obese fish took from us

[zealous wing]

i never knew what they took

[dusk timber]

Our bank account info

[zealous wing]

incorrect

steam has that

[dusk timber]

Fatshark too

[upper sun]

i only buy cosmetics for good updates

[strong gulch]

They can take the shit my cat just shat.

[dusk timber]

Its shared custody

[zealous wing]

damn

[upper sun]

so far i only paid up for the crafting update 💪

[zealous wing]

do either pay child support or is it a perfect split

[near gale]

Sweet, that makes things easier

[zealous wing]

i pay for what i wanna pay for

[dusk timber]

Youre the one paying

[zealous wing]

typical parents

i also decided to buy every chest piece in the commissary, stuff i thought i'd never wear im now actually using

literally the only psyker chest piece im missing (not including paid cosmetics) is the havoc one

which, i get soon

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-gif-25652576

Bro is hitting the pose in the first image

[wraith sphinx]

I paid for the drip that I liked 🙂

[zealous wing]

also the curse of wanting but not wanting the trader hat has ended

i saw a psyker wearing it in the lobby so i checked it out, it hides the eyes too much for what im after

so, no hat

i do hope the next line-up has decent shit

i am super after a cloak/cape of some sort

[wraith sphinx]

there is a mod that lets you preview every cosmetic that exists in the game files

[zealous wing]

super mad i msised the coat one

[wraith sphinx]

don't play the fomo game and make an informed purchase

[dusk timber]

What about the fumo game

[zealous wing]

thing is ill have severe fomo for the shit thats already gone past

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/marisa-kirisame-touhou-fumo-cap-gif-12254936807851914718

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-fart-gas-stinky-gif-8945574110891947267

[zealous wing]

the only thing im currently debating is the vox caster backpack

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-project-reimu-raymoo-fumo-gif-2983150679528787858

[zealous wing]

but its very "ehhh idk, do i want it?" so its likely a no

[near gale]

Will it improve your gameplay in any way shape or form... or make you happier about your character's appearance at all?

[zealous wing]

i also know theres PLENTY of time to make a decision

thats the main thing i've been trying to weigh

[near gale]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how cool do you think it looks?

[zealous wing]

which, likely no

depends on outift

let me switch and get a ss

for this it works

[wraith sphinx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/874125680420470814/1318201690595528734/caption.gif

[near gale]

Anything else?

[zealous wing]

maybe a 7

[near gale]

And how often do you wear that outfit?

If you wear it a lot, it might make you feel better about your appearance

[zealous wing]

fr this tho idk

[near gale]

If you don't wear it much, probably not

[zealous wing]

its my testing SG build ive been using it the entire time this last like, week or so

[near gale]

That's a tough spot to be in then

It could make you feel better... but it also could just be like 8 bucks down the drain

[zealous wing]

im thinking i will just wait either way to see what pops up

[near gale]

or however much it costs in your currency <.<

[zealous wing]

i dont wanna compromise for something thats meh then see something cooler pop up 2 weeks later

[near gale]

idk how much it costs in mine tbh

[near gale]

Fair, which is why I'm trying to help :3

[zealous wing]

its like 60 NOK or so? i think

maybe 50

i'd have to do maths

[near gale]

that's 5 or 6 us bucks

[zealous wing]

oh thank fuck no maths needed

[near gale]

that's roughly 5 us bucks

[wraith sphinx]

49,90 nootnoots

[near gale]

cause 1 nok is apparently 0.1 usd

[zealous wing]

54 NOK

[upper sun]

NORTH KOREAN MONEY YOO

[zealous wing]

so like, 3 cans of monster

[near gale]

damn that wouldn't even be 2 cans here

[zealous wing]

2 if they arent on sale

(they're always on sale somewhere)

[near gale]

2 decent sized cans*

[marble crater]

Didn't know Hexis is Norwegian

[upper sun]

2.5 monsters for me

[upper sun]

its in his bio 😭

[marble crater]

I don't read people's bio

Why would I?

[near gale]

Oh thank god, you don't need to get better

[upper sun]

same im illiterate too

[zealous wing]

its mainly there because i moderate for a lot of discords

[upper sun]

i would retire asap

[zealous wing]

lets people know when im likely to be available

nah i only moderate good ones

[upper sun]

i modded one discord for a year

it was hell

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hell-hell-no-death-fast-gif-22019672

[upper sun]

worse

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-steam-maintenance-tuesday-funny-gif-5125368307851606673

[zealous wing]

i do admin for 2 vintage story servers, and i moderate a friends twitch discord, but he's MIA kinda so it just exists with barely anyone talking in there

[near gale]

I really like this gif

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-cat-car-cat-meme-cats-gif-13549128190129307854

this is the best gif

[near gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1334710158525202443/99vpAu6.gif

[upper sun]

if u disagree ur blocked

[near gale]

You've already blocked me like 20 times now

[strong gulch]

classic

wow
reply no work

[upper sun]

once more bethesda is the only "person" i actually blocked

[strong gulch]

classic

yay it worked

[near gale]

I know :3

[marble crater]

I was there too

[strong gulch]

ye

[zealous wing]

i wish the revolver was decent

(for my playstyle)

the skin for it in zealot is actually dope

[near gale]

Nice save lol

then again I don't know if it is any good for havoc, since it lives and dies on breakpoints iirc

[zealous wing]

lol yeah like i know its a good gun but its not "let me get in this Beast of Nurgles face and shoot its tongue" good

[near gale]

At that point just use a thammer

[zealous wing]

im not a zealot

[near gale]

yet

[wraith sphinx]

I modded a discord with several thousand members and I got called so many slurs behind my back

[zealous wing]

no ive tried

[near gale]

tbh zealot is a feel

[upper sun]

i bring good revelations landstrider...........

[near gale]

Did you read the comment after it?

[upper sun]

have you heard the word? of our saviour the BOLTPISTOL?!

[upper sun]

I was googling the correct spelling of landstrider

[near gale]

No, that sounds like a gun I've never used(i've used it a lot on zealot)

[near gale]

Fair

[zealous wing]

why would i play a boring zealot with stun grenades when i can play a berserker psyker with magic flying rocks and a fucking giant sword

[upper sun]

because attack speed rashad and thammer

[strong gulch]

The time the game loaded a random build when joining a H40, zarona felt bad. My tree wasn't set up for it. Needing 3 head shots on a scab gunner feels bad.

[zealous wing]

also ass for my playstyle

[near gale]

eh, on thammer I prefer the autopistol

[zealous wing]

(and makes me motion sick with its recoil)

[upper sun]

my worst one was getting 3000 texts about someone threating to self end

(attention)

[marble crater]

Should have just blocked them

[upper sun]

boltpistol reliably 1taps trappers

[zealous wing]

and?

[upper sun]

its very easy to aim

[zealous wing]

wasted bullet

[near gale]

Oof

[upper sun]

perfect for an aimlet like me

[zealous wing]

also, ive seen so many people shoot a trapper in the face with a bistol and it doesnt go down

[near gale]

Havoc or not?

[zealous wing]

not

[near gale]

Also what blessings?

[upper sun]

it wasnt built correctly

[near gale]

and stats?

[upper sun]

needs maniac and puncture

[zealous wing]

no idea

[upper sun]

@zealous wing @near gale https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1404104742308679690/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.08.10_-_01.46.39.01-00.04.20.600-00.04.23.694.mp4?ex=68ce0d31&is=68ccbbb1&hm=4434666650d40e01b98bf5dd6e01b94f6c73144543a2b7365c6264e4e0789a99&

[zealous wing]

but it took 2-3 shots

[near gale]

then that's kinda like saying you've seen someone not 1 shot a dreg bruiser with a rashad x.x

[upper sun]

cmon tell me that wasnt cool

[marble crater]

I tried to one shot a dog with BB once, didn't work

[upper sun]

oh yeah you need a headshot with dogs

[near gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1406988061509681285/image0.gif

[strong gulch]

low peril moment 😭

feels so bad

[wraith sphinx]

holy shit

straight up jorkin the burster

[zealous wing]

"danger zone"?

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1275147375756841051/edging_poxies.mp4?ex=68ce3e49&is=68ccecc9&hm=39f4907dcb563f9d6f2f3e371a105874fe5688773eab6a28350dbaee87756b7a&

[strong gulch]

yes

[marble crater]

That clip explains so much about playing with clad

[upper sun]

fresh one

[near gale]

took me a bit to find the recording lol

[marble crater]

Now do it as psyker

[upper sun]

havent played psyker in so long

[near gale]

Oh I saw what you did now lol

[strong gulch]

That is part 2 to this.

[wind wind]

This could qualify as a sexual fetish lmao

[marble crater]

Deserved

[strong gulch]

approved

[wraith sphinx]

LOOOOL

this is what siblings do when nobody's looking...

[ripe obsidian]

I believe it's called "impact play."

[wind wind]

Moments like these make me doubt why i am still playing this game

[wraith sphinx]

Because it's fun

[strong gulch]

fun

[marble crater]

I guess you pushed the dog instead of trapper?

Unlucky

[strong gulch]

yeah
dog ate the push attack

[wind wind]

I swear, half the Darktide playerbase must be into bdsm

[wind wind]

Thats why i always push twice

[wraith sphinx]

well you have to be a bit of a freak to enjoy darktide in the first place, this is a game about making the best of a bad situation after all

[wind wind]

I hate how real this statement is....

[wraith sphinx]

though there's always Heresy if you just want an easy power trip, this game is accessible like that

...now I want to play a match of darktide

nevermind, nobody is fucking playing aurics

[wind wind]

Yeah, i noticed that too

And If they are playing, they are noobs and Idiots

Never thought i see people doing heresy level mistakes at auric maelstrom....

Like placing a medipack when everyone has closed off wounds....

Or shooting the goddamn poxburster

Or picking up the grimmoire when no one fucking needs it

Or never using the block button and then wondering why they got hacked to death

Or ragequitting while netted/downed despite me rushing to save them

I could keep going

[cosmic cobalt]

certified auric storm survivor

[gilded hare]

True, tbh some people are still learning. But yeah you should definitely have a certain degree of game knowledge when playing Auric

[wind wind]

I never used to be the last man standing but ever since the above average/good players migrated to havoc, i find myself usually to be the last one alive...

I guess becoming clutch master is my next learning curve

[wind wind]

I learned the ropes on malice and heresy. Damnation at the latest.

I expect you to not regularly fuck up with basic mistakes on fucking auric/maelstrom

[wraith sphinx]

yeah, so many players biting off more than they could chew, probably greedy for the crafting resources

[wind wind]

Yeah, probably...

[gilded hare]

Yeah that's fair, as someone who very recently got into Auric, it can definitely feel like a lot to take in.

Not as much the basics, but just the jump in difficulty

(tbf I do also only have about 100+ hours on the game)

[zealous wing]

i would agree with this

auric is damnation plus high intensity built in, and most people who do auric seem to have only done the easiest they could to get to it for XP/resources/ego

the few times i did auric QP without a set squadmate buddy, they kept splitting up

then they die/go down

like, huh, who'd have thunk

[gilded hare]

Oh yeah there are definitely a lot of people who split up and do stupid stuff. I especially agree with the theory about resource greediness.

[zealous wing]

the arby who ragequit after he went down in an auric's first section will live in my head rent free forever, the bot lasted 70% of the mission or so before even going down

[patent steeple]

today I saw a Smiteker smiting the horde, only to (accidentally) smite a nearby DH.

that Smiteker then ragequit as soon as they noticed what happened, causing the DH to switch aggro onto one of our 2 vets...

all in auric, btw....

[zealous wing]

fucking smykers

if anything the psyker SHOULD be the one to aggro the DH, if its necessary

(if kinetic deflection)

[patent steeple]

it wasn't necessary, the DH was very avoidable (it was the big round room near the start of Excise Vault)

[zealous wing]

f

im trying to remember which map it was

there was a map where the DH spawned in a spot and there was literally no way around her

i wish i actually noted it because it really seems like a bug

they should always be avoiodable

theres also been a couple times where she's been camping the medicae station at the torrent bridge fight thing

times like that if health is permitting for one of us, tank her and the rest kill her from a safe distance then medicae can be used

but quitting over aggroing her is bullshit

[gilded hare]

Oh yeah, even IF you are going to ragequit, at least let the DH kill you so it doesn't hunt down your party members

[wraith sphinx]

send DH ragequitters to Comorragh

[zealous wing]

what is this tag from?

[buoyant maple]

Fatshark developer

[zealous wing]

seriously? damn

[patent steeple]

are you sure its not just someone who modded that into being an option for themselves, somehow?

[buoyant maple]

Nah it’s just for FS devs

[zealous wing]

they didnt even gg back :(

and they were a smyker :(

and it was malice :(

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[zealous wing]

almost

i almost got them

i realised i didnt actually see their gamertag either so i clipped the section, and i presume this frame is also FS

[wraith sphinx]

yes

[zealous wing]

also thinking about the title now its pretty obvious its a latin name for a shark

like the scientific kind

clever ngl

instead of just, FatShark Dev

[cosmic cobalt]

gothic*

also lore accurate since it 40k

[zealous wing]

fuck if i know the difference

:p

still cool i managed to catch one in the wild, even if its probably not uncommon

[jovial juniper]

Confirmed

Dev is a malice player

[quartz barn]

Bro is gaming at work wtf

[jovial juniper]

[quartz barn]

Also the irony of a dev playing a no skill setup in the second lowest diff

[wraith sphinx]

nothing wrong with that

imagine if we instead had developers that constantly played the most difficult thing possible and balanced the game entirely around their personal ability to beat it

[pale prairie]

I thought that’s why arbites are so cracked

[zealous wing]

thats due to playtesters, right?

[wraith sphinx]

from what I read here fatshark wanted to initially make them really weak but the playtesters begged them not to and the arbites got redone according to their checklist

[zealous wing]

the testers they use all do h40 and porbably took it as a chance to get something broken as hell

[pale prairie]

Damn, who knew the playtesters had such power

[zealous wing]

probably why the devs are playing now

[pale prairie]

Smite buff confirmed by Hexis

[zealous wing]

it was such a low lvl psyker, and definitely not ingonito due to the tag on display

might literally just be testing everything on different difficulties

and then i come in and fucking obliterate the map

if assail gets nerfed im so sorry

[pale prairie]

False it’s gonna be the vraks nerfed

[zealous wing]

i barely shot anything

there was no monster 😔

i shouldve used vacuum capsule

it wouldve been great way to get banned

[pale prairie]

A lot of your clips you mostly use gun so I just assumed. I guess it’s gonna FGS nerfed then

[marble crater]

Hexis is Norwegian for Magdumping

[jovial juniper]

Tbf

Dlc character being weak would be peak Fatshark trolling

[zealous wing]

it would also be hilarious lore wise

like just within the game

honestly it would be cooler to have a dynamic like psykers do with ogryns

[wind wind]

Alt + f4 ing after aggroing a DH should result in the Darktide account being blocked for a week

I hate that shit

[zealous wing]

where they pair really well together with something else

vets and zealots, psykers and ogryns, but then there's just, arby and dog

[wind wind]

Oof

[pale prairie]

Absolute travesty. What else is a travesty?

Maelstrom yesterday full health only missing a quarter of ammo arbites runs up to the chest I just opened and hoovered up all the ammo before running into the next area and dying in a single minute.

We were the only two still up.

[wind wind]

I mean, that would satisfy the havoc 40 snobs who believe the world should rotate around them....

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-true-what-a-nice-true-true-pizza-morgan-freeman-gif-9911910826150230625

[zealous wing]

thats what arby is

[pale prairie]

He died like 3 times and I don’t understand HOW

[late sapphire]

the dev team white items only run finally goes through and they turn off the itemization feature

[wind wind]

I would report and block that guy after the match...

[wind wind]

Incompetence knows no limits

[wind wind]

Also true

[pale prairie]

Nah it was to appeal to people who COULDNT make it into havoc 40. Now they can!

[pale prairie]

Where has the rum gone

[wind wind]

Arbites is perfect for symker actually. You stay behind him, and while he pretends to be the main character, you engage in your emperor plapatine cosplay

[pale prairie]

Okay here’s my thing though. I have been seeing increasing numbers of Arbites that cosplay as vets with their carapace piercing shotgun

Which means they stand BEHIND the Smyker

[wind wind]

I actually gave both my bottles to a friend today so he could try them because he never had those. I'll probably get them back whenever

I'll compensate with palinka in the meantime

[pale prairie]

Damn you are a great friend

[wind wind]

Yeah, the "my shotgun will solve all the problems" arbites are annoying. They also eat ALL THE AMMO. i hate them when i play twink stubber. I usually barrel those arbites and dont res them when they go down dont fuck with my ammo supply, my gorgonum is hungry

[pale prairie]

That’s the main problem. They eat all the ammo and the team can’t take advantage of their invincibility

[pale prairie]

You talking twin linked?

[wind wind]

I mean, dont get me wrong, i love automatic rifles (like the IA and BA) and i have builds for them on all human classes BUT arbites lives and breathes for that melee stagger, thats his core mechanic, even more than dogplay. Youre a special kind of stupid If you dont use that.

[pale prairie]

I am waffling between kourke and gorgonum for the single heavy stubber. I want a battle rifle for sniping specials but I keep waffling since.

Kourke has no range damage drop off and more ammo

Gorgonum has better damage though especially if you crit and actual zoom on the ADS

[icy breach]

Cause they have to be protected; smite can carry - arbies like that cannot

[wind wind]

Twin + linked = twink

No, i did not stutter

Im just lazy

[icy breach]

[icy breach]

Use GG

[pale prairie]

It is interesting that they do a lot of damage on the numbers board but they don’t feel like they improve mission success. I dunno

[pale prairie]

As a sign of my trust in you Papa I will run it tonight

[icy breach]

Cause the situation where you would sweat your balls off never occurs thanks to them and if it does its nullified

[pale prairie]

Exactly you get so much damage and toughness from staggering. Also the charge ability and shock mines

[wind wind]

I have all 3 in 3 configurations. (So nine in total)

Per kind,
One for sniping.
One with barrages and unyielding for bosses
One hybrid

Although i usually use the krourk unyielding for monstrosities and the achlys with surgical for sniping

[pale prairie]

Oh I was talking arbites. Smite definitely carries. Even when they go down lmao

[wind wind]

Only If you can deal with that trajectory (i fucking cant )

[icy breach]

Maniac + Flak
Pinpointing + disruptive/shattering/gloryhunter

[pale prairie]

Achlys feels so good. Just the waiting for surgical stacks doesn’t pair well with pulling it out in melee to shoot a special

[wind wind]

I love the "move bitch, get out da way" build

[icy breach]

With GG you’ll never have that issue

[wind wind]

I can hit 30+ mtr brauto headshots more reliably than GG bodyshots in that range

[icy breach]

Takes practice

[wind wind]

Or....

Fuck your and my frames, i'll just use rumbler

Carpet bombing it is

[pale prairie]

Lmao what is with this game that Ogryn explosions are so fucked on it

[quartz barn]

Big boom

[upper sun]

it does

if you record it and report the player they do get banned

[wind wind]

Since when?

[upper sun]

always

[wind wind]

Source?

[zealous wing]

same with people spamming vacuum capsule i imagine

[wind wind]

Nem hiszek neked.

[jovial juniper]

The filmmaker?

[upper sun]

lets recreate it

[patent steeple]

btw, I have found a new decent melee for a Voidstrike build: Heavy Sword mk9

the only problem is, idk what blessings to put on it... Headtaker seems like a must have, but idk if Deathblow (Bromentum with a different name), Wrath or Savage Sweep would be better for the second slot...

alternatively, I could go with Rampage for even more damage, because I already have Warp Splitting...

[upper sun]

wake a dh and leave and ill report u

[wind wind]

Do you have any examples of that happening in the past to other players?

[upper sun]

no i heard telopods say its bannable and i trust him

[pale prairie]

I have tried heavy sword it just feels like a pool noodle even into hordes

[mental rock]

But how can you prove it was a legitimate leaver or just a DC at the worst time?

[upper sun]

🚬

what are the odds of that

i dont believe it

[mental rock]

With darktide

The odds are high

[patent steeple]

idk, I guess its because I only play Auric, and never touch Havoc...

[pale prairie]

Nah I have heard other people so it’s decent. Might be the blessings I was using

[mental rock]

Heavy sword good

[pale prairie]

Often times they type into chat about this being bullshit

THEN they leave

[mental rock]

But it's not a relic blade

[pale prairie]

Heavy sword is sadly just a sword

[mental rock]

This is rare for me atleast. Usually my leavers just say nothing when they leave so it's hard to tell if it's a DC or not

[pale prairie]

Yeah the last time a DH leaver happened to me I loaded into a match and was immediately set upon by a DH. While I was waiting to die (cause team was spread out and getting horded) I noticed the chat had a bunch of whining in it and then “xxxxx has left)

[pale prairie]

Yeah I feel like deathblow would be very good with Headtaker. Especially cause it’s about killing hordes.

Rampage and headtaker together might be worth checking out though cause it IS a high cleave weapon

[wind wind]

I like using the heavies on heavy sword. The lights feel like garbage

[pale prairie]

Yeah the heavy sword feels not as heavy as I’d like

[mental rock]

Deathblow too good to not take

[ripe obsidian]

Deathblow and Bromentum are both blessings that make weapons viable

If they're available, they're almost always worth taking.

[prime elk]

the vfx/sfx of the hsword feel so fucking wimpy

like the dclaw feels good to use (it's shit)

the hsword feels terrible to use (it's good)

[jovial juniper]

[wraith sphinx]

it's true

dclaw is fun as fuck to use

hsword makes me go ugh

[prime elk]

hsword has its moments but yeah dclaw in general feels better to use lol

[pale prairie]

Does vet have any melee damage bonuses on their tree?

[rigid rune]

maybe weapon specialist?

[patent steeple]

agile engagement

[wraith sphinx]

agi eng + WS is great

[patent steeple]

also, on the subject of dclaw on psyker, I have no idea what blessings to use on it (I currently use mk1 or mk7), but I have noticed dclaw non-parry attacks benefit a decent amount from crits, so I have been using Shred/Rampage on mine.

in hindsight, Savage Sweep or Wrath would probably pair better with Rampage on dclaw, but I like having bonus crits while spamming sweeping attacks at the horde...

[wraith sphinx]

I use this

is very fun

[wind wind]

That dog scream made me flinch and get my blood pressure up

[ripe obsidian]

This is unrelated to Darktide, but it looks very cool.

https://youtu.be/G4Df2vAnKZo?si=p-fyyIqGnfkn-LUU

[mental rock]

Serrated Blade, trench fighter, reciprocity

Desperado

Rending strikes

Some of these are not exclusive to melee though

[pale prairie]

Okay it’s a show. Thought it was a game

[wind wind]

Very sparkly...

[ripe obsidian]

By the person who created Owl House after Disney canceled the show

[ripe obsidian]

It looks like a pretty rad dystopia

[pale prairie]

Ohhhhh

I do like owl house. This looks distinctly more dark though

[wind wind]

🦉

[buoyant maple]

deathblow + headtaker

[ripe obsidian]

Per the creator, this is the sort of thing she prefers to make, but Disney made her file off the edges

This show also seems, pretty openly, to be anti-Disney

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Subnode 10%

I'm fairly sure there's another

Uh

5% subnode

[dusk timber]

theres also the one that makes your melee attacks bleed and another that makes melee have higher crit chance and damage

[jovial juniper]

Serrated Blade

🛌

[dusk timber]

also agile engagement

[pale prairie]

Nice. So they have nice talents and nodes they are just really hard to get to?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah pretty much

[dusk timber]

they also have some dogshit nodes as well

[jovial juniper]

There's also the precision strikes talent that works for melee and ranged

[dusk timber]

but thats besides the point

[jovial juniper]

And plenty of unspecified damage as well

Which should work for melee and ranged as well

[plucky flax]

Bruh I died in poe2 once and the last like 1.5 hours of progress gone.

At least it's not hardcore.

[icy breach]

Headtaker & Wrath; deathblow needs a kill and sometimes you won’t kill; wrath is consistent when surrounded

[mental rock]

That's why I always keep that omen which decreases XP loss in my inventory

I would use the replenishment omen but I'm using CI so it wouldn't work anyway

[ripe obsidian]

Be better.

[plucky flax]

I use the replenish hp omen yeah.

I'm lvl 95 going for 100 because reasons. Xd

[mental rock]

Hey I'm at 95 too

[plucky flax]

Oh actually I died because lag.

Now that I remember.

Rubberbanding ping going to 200+ then I'm on the floor.

[mental rock]

I've only died like 300 times xd

[pale prairie]

Of course of course it’s always lag

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-mob-clear-gif-10972648227834624746

[plucky flax]

How to check death?

[plucky flax]

That and I ran out of flask.

[pale prairie]

Such nuance

[plucky flax]

But that's a separate issue.

[pale prairie]

Yeah a skill one

[mental rock]

It's /deaths or something like that

[plucky flax]

I've only died 60 times.

I am veri pro.

[pale prairie]

Be more like Elon musk

He plays hardcore and tops the leaderboard /s

[plucky flax]

Richest man in the world = most skills.

[pale prairie]

You think being rich affects a game with an actual market for items?

[proper spoke]

I wish i was as smart as him

[mental rock]

I mean you can buy currency

So yes

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/katena-sarcasm-tbv-sarcasm-eyeglasses-gif-16424238

[plucky flax]

I heard if someone with some fucked up build play they can lag the whole server.

[pale prairie]

I think some of the lightning stuff was doing that

Too much sparky particle effects

[opaque tulip]

So I am trying the force greatsword

Tis fun :3

But I’m wondering how good it actually is

[mental rock]

It's good

[jovial juniper]

It's good
Top tier

Bit on the poor dodges side

(second worst dodges in the game)

But it's good

[wraith sphinx]

just don't get hit

[jovial juniper]

Truer words

[mental rock]

Second worst dodges for psyker you mean? I'm pretty sure thammer and crusher both have worse dodges

And if you include ranged weapons there is flamer and brautos

[jovial juniper]

Crusher Arby's is THE worse dodges in the game

But crusher zealot isn't because zealot has better dodge distance than Arby's

So yeah zealot still zealoting

[dusk timber]

and ilas (why the fuck are its mobility stats nearly identical to the bolter)

[jovial juniper]

Oh and vet has the same dodge distance as zealot

[opaque tulip]

Okay so that’s rhe thing that felt a little off about it

I’m vibing with the greatsword the most out of all the psyker melee choices but there was something that felt a little odd. I’m certain is this

[ripe obsidian]

I think Musk is 2nd again

Oracle founder just rode the AI bubble to the top

Something like 300B in new contracts to do ???

[dusk timber]

hopefully he goes down even further 🙂

[jovial juniper]

Just remember that you can get your positive dodges back if you stop dodging for 0.85 seconds

So you don't go negative dodges and just slug on the ground

[wraith sphinx]

how long before that crashes and burns do ya think
I give it a year max

[ripe obsidian]

Like a month

It's such a bubble

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dirty-bubble-dirty-bubble-spongebob-pop-bubble-gif-12314176431343551508

[pale prairie]

I have heard that it feels a little glidey between attacks too. I haven’t ever really noticed thanks to mettle.

[ripe obsidian]

I think Google might skate through relatively unscathed because they aren't all-in on the AI train. But OpenAI, Nvidia, and Oracle are gonna suffer

But the whole tech industry is gonna crash

[dusk timber]

cant wait for that to happen

[pale prairie]

Larry Ellison. Maybe has to do with purchasing American TikTok

[ripe obsidian]

But my stock options. D:

I just got those this year

[dusk timber]

womp womp

[ripe obsidian]

https://apnews.com/article/richest-billionaires-musk-ellison-oracle-tesla-bloomberg-forbes-e90a3cab2a0b256923ca55814893f9fe

[pale prairie]

You are assuming our king will not bail them out

[pale prairie]

Yep

[wraith sphinx]

hundreds of billions of dollars worth of bailouts though? even for USA that is surely too much

[pale prairie]

When you don’t care about long term economic consequences you can do anything

For instance ballooning national debt, tariffs etc

[ripe obsidian]

The US government doesn't actually care about money. It's all play-acting political theater

[wraith sphinx]

also clammy sammy and co have already done negotiations to cash out, I don't think they're counting on any sort of a bailout

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ideas-genius-george-seinfeld-gif-16281624

[ripe obsidian]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

"The federal government has a 6.75 to 1 debt to revenue ratio as of Q2 2023."

As if that's ever getting paid off

It's just a number people throw around because it sounds impressive. "The federal debt is too high! We can't keep going!" > raises debt ceiling every single year

[pale prairie]

2008 really fucked shit up. And COVID was the nail in the coffin. Certain elected leaders are just pouring gasoline on it

[ripe obsidian]

But so far the US pays its interest on time, so no one is complaining.

[pale prairie]

I mean as long as the world is confident in the US being a stable market that won’t act erratically and refuse to pay debts…..

Dollar buying power goes SAD

[opaque tulip]

chuckles nervously in American

[plucky flax]

Ppl complain about bl4 performance but end game map juicing in poe2 performance is also shit. I can't even get 60fps 😭

[pale prairie]

cries nervously in american

[mental rock]

Deadeye player

No wonder you only died 60 times

[pale prairie]

Is the game full release now technically?

[plucky flax]

Well kind of yeah.

It's not finished.

[pale prairie]

It says early access

[plucky flax]

But it's very playable.

You can pour 100+ hours easily each season.

[pale prairie]

If it was too OP it would be patched out…..riiiight? /s

[pale prairie]

I know I put in about 50 when it first was available

[plucky flax]

I think for this league it's like 80% lightning arrow deadeye vs other classes. Xd

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254765

[plucky flax]

I'm one of the meta chaser scrub.

But I will do a blood mage at some point.

[mental rock]

Even non deadeyes play lightning arrow

Top monks in the league are all LA

[pale prairie]

Be a pro play the melee class

[plucky flax]

No I think melee is too hard for mapping.

[pale prairie]

Exactly

[plucky flax]

All the cursed aoe on the ground is already rough as range class.

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[plucky flax]

The flame patches fucking suck ass.

It drains so much hp.

[pale prairie]

Literally the APM on high tier maps brings back StarCraft PTSD

[mental rock]

Abyss mods doing pure phys is so cancer

[plucky flax]

I will play melee though when they release big sword.

Because big sword = cool.

[mental rock]

Also chilled ground should be removed or nerfed

F that mod

[pale prairie]

Are they actually? I keep hearing about the hopium

[plucky flax]

Yeah chilled ground is so stupid too.

[plucky flax]

Well it's a weapon in the game.

Just unreleased.

[pale prairie]

Hmmm

[plucky flax]

Like 1 hand sword and dagger. Xd

[pale prairie]

But Darktide

Unreleased weapon mods

[mental rock]

Arpg without a sword weapon Xdddds

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-garbage-gif-24819387

[plucky flax]

I know.

Kind of sus.

I'd just play some meme tanky templar shitty build when 1h sword is out.

And templar class is released.

[pale prairie]

A lot of IFS

[plucky flax]

5 unreleased classes.

[pale prairie]

Interesting

Oh lich is new to me

[plucky flax]

Lich this patch is really good.

With crossbow.

Even official channel made a build video.

Build showcase.

[mental rock]

Lich good, popular in hardcore

[verbal thistle]

infernalist minion spam is funny

you literally play like a psyker with the 4th ascend.

[verbal thistle]

real.

[paper dust]

@deft stump

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-begging-attention-cat-gif-8380127

[pale prairie]

"100% reduced presence radius. You cannot have allies."

[plucky flax]

Not perfect. Must be trash at gooning.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-well-excuse-me-my-bad-forgive-me-gif-12816137713843649250

[woeful sigil]

will probably give it a shot when they add trickster shadow

maximum manaregen + cast speed on homing projectiles is my shit

I miss being able to puke 50 homing skulls all over the map in the blink of an eye

[plucky flax]

I reckon full game release next year but still would have missing classes.

[woeful sigil]

I could play witch but she doesn't have the evasion I need

I like running around at mach 10

changing between cast and melee

fuck I miss my worm build, you used to be able to cast on kill with no cooldown so you would drink a potion that spawns infinite worms and just try not to crash the game with how many spells get cast per worm kill

wouldn't it be cool if they removed kinetic flayer, and instead made it an empowered psyonics perk that casts on elite/specialist kill

so on kill is a random brain burst, aoe smite stun, or assail spawn

would probably have to choose between that and guarenteed EP on elite kill

[deft stump]

Too late, goober's in bed already.

[paper dust]

Bed picture

Sleepy lass pic

prease?

pretty prease?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-beg-please-gif-10010175

[upper sun]

we did it reddit

[pale prairie]

And now you can…………….

[woeful sigil]

is true aim on revolver any good

thinking about making a build to try it

wait, does true aim work on assail or does that not count as a ranged attack since its warp

I'm gonna test it later tonight but if it does work I think I'm gonna have to try this

the singular deadly needle

[upper sun]

NOW i can.......... play the game

[pale prairie]

In the pins is a link to Kuli’s guide on talents blessings etc

[woeful sigil]

OH I forgot about that guide

[ripe obsidian]

What is Zola doing in my work fridge?

Shouldn't she be on the Mourningstar? And not a carton of water?

[marble crater]

Remember egirl bathwater? Same thing

[ripe obsidian]

Flavored with all the Nurgle slime she washed off, I assume

[pale prairie]

Damn Six never leaves the game. Even when away from computer

[pale prairie]

No

[ripe obsidian]

I'm trapped in a cycle of endless torment

[pale prairie]

Then I can breathe easing knowing you’re in your happy place

[marble crater]

No to which part?

[pale prairie]

Yes

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

Have your German—I mean frostpunk citizens all died yet?

[marble crater]

I don't want to talk about it

I will try again today

[pale prairie]

Hehehhehehe

It’s an unforgiving game

[marble crater]

It's pretty different from the first one, everything is more big picture. Takes some getting used to

[pale prairie]

It’s a thinking man’s game unlike Darktide

https://tenor.com/view/enhailed-gif-25134466

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

You got this. I believe in your ability to keep humanity from eating itself alive

[marble crater]

Thanks, surely I can beat the prologue

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/fry-futurama-damn-arms-gif-25729748

[marble crater]

If not I will just have to lower the difficulty

[earnest cobalt]

What do you recommend for primary curios enchancement?

[verbal thistle]

3 tough

or 2 tough 1 hp

psyker does not need stamina

and wounds are a trap

[zealous wing]

yall i just clutched a damnation

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/the-student-has-become-the-master-well-done-proud-good-job-learning-gif-15142516

[zealous wing]

being aware of adrenaline causing shaking definitely helped me slow down and take it at a careful pace

[thorn cedar]

Learn square breathing.

Four seconds breathe in, four seconds hold, four seconds breathe out, four seconds hold, nice and slow. Steadies the hands and keeps you from hyperfixating too hard on the possibility of fucking up.

[woeful sigil]

I got a question for you guys, since soul drinker procs when anything dies while affected by soul blaze, does that also count as a kill that counts towards disrupt destiny?

never tried a fire build on dd

[modest perch]

uhhhhh

[woeful sigil]

if so wildfire might be worth it

[modest perch]

any kill counts towards dd but soul drinker requires it to a actually die to soulblaze

souldrinker kinda ass

[long saddle]

I feel like I've read people say it's just affected by it ye

[woeful sigil]

it does proc regardless if it dies from the flame

or another player

it just only procs once every 5 seconds

[modest perch]

im thinking this might be a mistake

[woeful sigil]

theres the full thing

[modest perch]

my testing on it is somewhat limited but using a blazing spirit sword + staff power di showed souldrinker hardly ever procing

[pale prairie]

Does it help with open heart computer surgery?

[modest perch]

also taking wildfire and souldrinker seems rly fuckin expensive for what it does

[thorn cedar]

couldve, if i knew about it

[pale prairie]

Ooof

[cosmic cobalt]

you can't really get souldrinker on purge staff build easily anyway

[modest perch]

especially since you should be taking the regen on warp kill at the top of the tree which is basically free

[pale prairie]

Yeah love that the soulblaze leaning talent is as far from soulblaze talents as it can get

[thorn cedar]

the reason Souldrinker uptime seems shit is because of (1), effect (2) is always going off but only effect (1) is tracked by the uptime mod and that effect can't be refreshed, so the 5s has to run out and then an enemy has to die while Soulblazed for it to proc again

[woeful sigil]

I'm gonna try a soul blaze on crit fgs, and hopefully the fire from that will coat DD targets, and if they die while under my soulblaze I'm hoping it procs DD

[modest perch]

yea i dont doubt that dd will proc

[cosmic cobalt]

the toughness regen is the main draw anyway

which soulstealer and mettle do

[modest perch]

even so 5% kinda ass when soulstealer exists

[pale prairie]

But it’s basically constantly up. It would be good on fire builds if it wasn’t located deep into melee territory for fucking reasons

[modest perch]

it would always be up if you reasonably take it on an infernus build

they rly want us to be fire melee wizard but its so ass

[pale prairie]

They should fix the blessing

[modest perch]

yea and let it proc on the warp slash

[pale prairie]

My reading of souldrinker seems to indicate that though the crit portion can’t be reprocced during its active duration the 5% toughness activates on every valid kill

[modest perch]

yea

[woeful sigil]

since soul stealer will give me toughness on fire kills, brain burst auto procs adding more burn and also counts as a warp kill, I learned perfect timing increases soulburn damage, soul drinker gives more crit chance which means more stacks of perfect timing, and on top of all that if dd procs when something dies while under the effects of soul burn I should in theory have infinite toughness

anyway thank you for coming to my ted talk

[modest perch]

its not horrible

but seeing you take wildfire over psykinetics causes me great pain

[woeful sigil]

I could remove warp speed

[modest perch]

actually wild you dont have by crack of bone

[long saddle]

wildfire just doesn't have many stacks to transfer

[woeful sigil]

I like to keep my peril at 100%

I hate sitting there trying to get it back up

[modest perch]

yea but ur scriers uptime gonna be shitty no ?

[woeful sigil]

I legit have more fun sitting at 100% peril

doing the odd warp slash to keep it at 100

and making it so I can do scrier's gaze more only ruins my peril gen

[cosmic cobalt]

what bro cooking

its fucking burnt

[pale prairie]

I dunno I think By Crack of Bone SG synergy doesn’t make up for the fact that it kills Warp Rider, One with the warp, unstable power, and warpsplitting

[woeful sigil]

oh and also, 20% damage for 100% peril, 30% damage from scriers gaze + guarenteed crit on revolver / double barrel

true shot

so I get to run around igniting stuff, then I pull out the weewee

[pale prairie]

I am assuming your fire stacks are gonna come from PC?

[cosmic cobalt]

beo you're purge staffing

just edge the peril bar

[woeful sigil]

I went full crit, so i'm gonna FGS soulblaze on crit. and I'm HOPING warp splitting will solve the issue of it freezing me in place

cause it solves it without soulblaze on crit

[cosmic cobalt]

anything soulblaze related that isn't on purge staff is ass lol

you have no stack

[modest perch]

nah fire trauma kinda based

just wish it was easier to juice the crit chance on it

imagine rending fire trauma

[woeful sigil]

I actually hate charging psyker's staff

[pale prairie]

My understanding is that the blessing on FGS that does soulblaze on crit hardly every procs because unless it’s an elite the chaff dies BEFORE it recognizes being lit on fire

Cause the swing is a crit

[modest perch]

nah

[woeful sigil]

its not bad in crowds

[modest perch]

ive messed around with shred/riposte blazing spirit on it and it procs somewhat often

[long saddle]

I've never gotten fire trauma to work well, are you supposed to just skip warp flurry?

[modest perch]

yea

warp nexus

[woeful sigil]

people hate on wildfire but I really enjoy it

as you cut them back it pushes the fire back with you

[modest perch]

wildfire just kinda ass without purge staff thoughever

[woeful sigil]

it caps off at 4 stacks anyway

so it kinda makes it better for alternative ways of using it

[pale prairie]

How often is somewhat often? Cause if it’s often enough that would be a good interaction right?

[modest perch]

it winds up being mid even with souldrinker

just truly mid

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean souldrinker is mid on purge staff

ofc it ass on non purge staff

[long saddle]

do you wanna go SG or vent with fire trauma

[pale prairie]

I don’t agree with this. No range limit and anything that dies with it just gives you 5% toughness on top of soulstealer

[modest perch]

i go scriers with it and just use it as a sidearm due to my obsession with melee psyker

[pale prairie]

Crit chance doesn’t hurt either for double stacking purge

[cosmic cobalt]

there 3 problem with souldrinker

1: soulstealer + mettle exist
2: you have to go out of your way to get it
3: enemy has to die to soulblaze itself which

purge staff also not lacking in crit

[pale prairie]

They don’t have to die to soulblaze

[modest perch]

3 is a matter of some controversy

[cosmic cobalt]

ok i misread that

that doesn't change that it bad due to 1 and 2 alone

[woeful sigil]

does full bore's strength mean strength of everything

[modest perch]

fire melee wizard still based thoughever regardless of how much of a meme jt is

[ripe obsidian]

God damn it. Double gif.

[pale prairie]

Number two is bad for sure but mettle and soulstealer would be fine on top of it.

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-shame-on-you-shame-simpsons-flanders-gif-6614710537393430078

[modest perch]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[woeful sigil]

if full bore's strength applies to melee / soul burn then we need to talk

[modest perch]

god damn it now i double gifd

[woeful sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-attack-gif-8318612315233716848

[long saddle]

yeah I just run melee so often on my SG builds so, might try to with knife for movement

[cosmic cobalt]

2 is the worse one here because you need to spend 3 talent point on purge staff build for it

which you have non

[pale prairie]

Agreed that’s why I was complaining earlier about a soulblaze talent being as far away as possible from soulblaze part of tree

[modest perch]

gun or staff scriers ?

[long saddle]

mostly staff

beside purge ofc

[modest perch]

yea surge knife scriers kinda good

[pale prairie]

Six what was the interaction between Souldrinker and the blazing spirit blessing?

[ripe obsidian]

Melee or staff?

Issue with Blazing Spirit on melee is that you often just kill the trash mobs on crit and they never end up on fire.

[pale prairie]

fGS

[pale prairie]

Kay so the crit damage is calculated before fire ever happens

[earnest cobalt]

Why? That extra wound always helps me since I get downed pretty frequently

[modest perch]

more toughness means getting downed less

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-math-math-cat-numbers-cat-funny-gif-13385485103134761656

[ripe obsidian]

I am almost positive that is the case. I can find out when I get home

[sinful peak]

what's gunker's highest dps

[pale prairie]

It’s a good learning tool but the game is about not dying and wounds is about PLANNING to die. Furthermore the green stim is basically a free wound

[ripe obsidian]

More defensive stats make you die less. More wounds make green stims and corruption heal talents weaker.

[pale prairie]

No problem I haven’t ever tried it so I was leaning on your scientific mind

[ripe obsidian]

Green stim is 50% HP or 1 wound, whichever is lower, I believe. Lemme check

[pale prairie]

No you’re right

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, 25% or 1 wound, whichever is higher

[pale prairie]

Technically if you have 2 wounds it IS 50% health

[earnest cobalt]

I'm still below 150 hours

I think I will need the wound

[pale prairie]

That’s why I said it’s a good learning tool

[cosmic cobalt]

banking on failure is bad who would've guess

[ripe obsidian]

Code just says "on_hit" for blazing spirit. So it might actually count. Fascinating. I am curious now.

It's a bunch of if statements.

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[ripe obsidian]

If the correct weapon, if the hit is a damaging hit, if it's a melee crit

And if those are true, return true, burninate

But it does seem like that comes after calculating damage, based on a cursory glance

There is not a check that I see that it must be a living enemy, but that could be baked into the proc_func part

[halcyon plover]

it should

as does deathspitter

[pale prairie]

Mmmmm let me burninate and soul drink corpses please

[upper sun]

🤔

night cap????

[halcyon plover]

never liked this argument because the same can be said for any investment into vitality in general

[modest perch]

bit early innit ?

[halcyon plover]

wounds are bad because they will help you survive less than +17% toughness or +21% health would

that's the real reason

[pale prairie]

What argument? And what’s vitality?

[halcyon plover]

vitality as in your sustain and tools to survive

the argument being that wounds are "planning to die"

[pale prairie]

They are though

Literally lets you “die” one extra time

[halcyon plover]

it lets you go down an extra time, but the idea is still that it prevents you from entirely dying

[pale prairie]

Yeah but in higher difficulties going down is often the same as just outright dying

[halcyon plover]

like, if you get health and toughness curios does that just mean you are planning to die too because you increased the total amount of times you can get hit before going down?

which is practically the same purpose as taking a wound curio, increasing the total amount of times you can get hit before dying

[modest perch]

yes

[halcyon plover]

that too

[zealous wing]

actually it prevents you FROM going down, if you have wound curios you PLAN to go down.

[halcyon plover]

that's what I said

[pale prairie]

Getting hit is way different from being DOWNED

[zealous wing]

wound curios are you actively planning to go down more than once

[thorn cedar]

If you're having trouble with your car, you probably shouldn't think of installing more air bags as a solution.

[halcyon plover]

and sharks are older than trees

[ripe obsidian]

Wounds are planning to die. HP and toughness are insurance against going down. Important distinction

[pale prairie]

Exactly as 6 said

Wounds benefit ONLY ACTIVATES IF YOU GO DOWN

you get the benefit of other curios constantly

And in the ideal game. You don’t go down

[zealous wing]

and it makes med stims less effective

[modest perch]

i never go down

i quit as soon as i take dmg

[pale prairie]

No one here ever does. And we all clutch

[zealous wing]

if theres two players missing the same hp but one has 4 wounds and the other has two, im giving it to the one with two wounds

[upper sun]

i never go back 🎶

[pale prairie]

Damn. I am holding on to it myself

[zealous wing]

usually yeah but, in special cases

[pale prairie]

Unless I am Ogryn or playing with friend

[zealous wing]

like, if we're the last two left, and they play alright they just got fucked up by a crusher or dog or something, im sharing

if they're a dumbass im keeping it

[upper sun]

i usually save them for myself if the team is very bad if theyre average i share

[zealous wing]

it also helps if we're squadded before the mission starts

im more likely to share then

true level has also helped in my descisions a bit

[upper sun]

ye ofc if its people from here im sharing ofc

but randos............

cant trust em

[pale prairie]

Nah I use actual gameplay to decide

[zealous wing]

that too

but like, extra info

[pale prairie]

I don’t use true level.

[zealous wing]

its nice because ingame i can see if someones lvl 28 or 280, and if the 28 is doing better than the 280 but they're both struggling, guess who im giving it to? (not the 280 )

and by struggle i mean, doesnt know positioning yet, attack patterns, that kind of thing

theres learning and then theres stupid

[cosmic cobalt]

I've seen people over 1000 light spamming

[zealous wing]

i support learning, i dont support stupid

[cosmic cobalt]

playtime and level is not an indicator of skill

[zealous wing]

just ask about celine

[pale prairie]

Look I have just seen some absolute abysmal true survivor and ASS and Poxbreaker players. True level isn’t gonna give more information to tell me who is valuable beyond how they play the match