psyker-class

[earnest cobalt]

[upper sun]

me and u

[radiant frigate]

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[upper sun]

NIGHT CAP TIME

LETS GO WHOS DOWN?

[marble crater]

Okay

[upper sun]

post while game is loading

sut is in operative select

😭 why does xbox have better launch speed

[marble crater]

Built different

[upper sun]

I HAD IT!!!!!

[marble crater]

Let's see if I could still clip that

[upper sun]

ready?

[marble crater]

Yes

[upper sun]

OK much better

gg im out

[marble crater]

I didn't play well

I also couldn't clip the burster crusher combo, too late to record

[upper sun]

its ok

i was plaing worse

playing

brainjuice ran out

[marble crater]

We always play worse when playing together

[upper sun]

nah our duo was going well

until it wasnt

[ripe obsidian]

After a quick perusal, it appears to be cute and fun. Why do you ask?

[pale prairie]

I am learning German

And Chinese

[upper sun]

do u speak either

[marble crater]

Learning German from Hitler

[pale prairie]

Not yet

[marble crater]

If you want to learn German, you need to learn how to use "tja" and "doch"

[upper sun]

tja

ok buddy

[prime elk]

Learning the pleb version of it

[pale prairie]

I am a man of the people

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-credit-score-score-china-gif-23125701

[cursive tiger]

Is there just a large amount of Psykers or something

Swear I always get queued with one

[pale prairie]

Guess you’re just lucky

[ornate hamlet]

There is a lot id say!

Most common operatives I see are arbiters, then psykers. . Zealots prob in third, then chadgryns.

Also…

I need some advice for psyker on auric and above.

Im dying, a lot. I find most of the mission is spent running after the group while they rush through killing everything. I help a bit, but no one ever seems to slow down and let slower operatives catch up.

Often times I’ll have one or two group members beside me when a horde comes. We will start fighting, doing great, and then a few moments later (I’d say about 15 seconds, I’m always turning to look to see where everyone is) everyone’s turned and ran way far ahead. By the time I realize everyone’s abandoned me, I usually find myself getting stuck surrounded or having to run constantly to keep up.

This pretty common for you all too? The sad part is, if people actually slow down, the runs are so much easier due to psyker being amazing.

Do most of you just play with friends via voice?

[cursive tiger]

I do, personally but I can usually kinda keep up

What build are you running?

[ornate hamlet]

I have 4, but I like to go with voidblast typically.

Which makes sense, because I’m channeling more often than not during hordes

[marble crater]

I think that just comes down to who you happen to play with and more experience, you don't have to kill every single enemy before moving forward, especially not if they are just poxwalkers. Also depends where you are fighting, maybe it's a bad spot and it's better to move forward (or backward). Using something like Dueling Sword or Knife can also help with staying near your team, because of the better mobility they give you

[ornate hamlet]

That’s an idea. I’m using the Deimos, and while it’s faster than the great sword, maybe I should switch just to keep up. I find i have zero issues killing anything, but yeah, sticking with the group/getting out of shitty situations is what kills me more often than not.

[strong gulch]

Avoid lingering in one spot.

Even with a knife, if your don't move you're still going to be behind.

A team just holding W can be annoying. Especially when it's classes that have a lot more survivability.

[prime elk]

oh look, my playstyle

[strong gulch]

But you should also be able to keep up with a team.

It is easier with everyone can talk to one another, but you'll have to look around more. Listen more.

If you have to kite stuff to your team then so be it.

VB is pretty good about holding W because you can charge while sliding and blast things out of your way.

[young cliff]

My issue with the concept of "moving forward" is that most of the times is the fact that those people are allergc to retreating, which is what keep people alive, there is a point where things will be pissing from all directions and you want to take your exit yesterday or you die

[marble crater]

Retreat? I am not a coward

[young cliff]

Specially if the path forward was a choke point

[young cliff]

"Then you will die braver than most"

"Also you will not do the will of the Emperor, which is worse"

[marble crater]

The emperor would want me to die for him, I am a psyker after all and we know how much he loves dead psykers

[young cliff]

Sure, but have you completed the mission? Or are you just getting of the plane and dying stupidly without getting the objective done?

The Emperor is judging you

[strong gulch]

Retreat is a needed strat sometimes that's part of situational awareness and possitioning.

However, the convo was about someone struggling to keep up with a team.

[young cliff]

That is why when we are moving forward I crouch, aim and give cover fire to the one that was keeping the ambush horde ded, because I'm not a jerk and I know that moving forward while a stupid rager horde is chasing you is not funny

Usually that's the reason why people stay behind

[marble crater]

Another option is rushing ahead, can't have problems with keeping up with the team, if they need to keep up with you

[pale prairie]

Sut is so wise

[young cliff]

infinite Ogryn quality wisdom, THE best (and strongest) wisdom

[ornate hamlet]

I think is the largest thing I’ve noticed. And I get it. When I play ogryn, arby or zealot, there are many situations that a person can legit just push through. You may get some cuts and bruises, but you’re gonna survive.

As psyker, a lot of the time when everyone is just holding W, I have to be much more careful so I naturally fall behind a bit.

I think the idea of kiting to the group is a great one. I’m gonna try and do that more!

That said, I sometimes wonder if people leave psykers behind/push ahead on purpose. I’ve seen many players say how much they hate playing with psykers because they do so much of the heavy lifting kill wise, taking fun away etc. 👀

[strong gulch]

Some classes enable holding W more than others. A lot people want to just go go go too.

AND a lot of people will knowingly leave a smyker behind.

Pugs are less coordinated and often times less caring; so they default to "I'm just gonna do me."

And yeah, there's a joke that EK is the most ethical staff because it doesn't obscure vision, have a tone of mass CC, isn't as loud, etc.

lol

[prime elk]

leaving the smyker behind to fend off the rager wave

[strong gulch]

ye

I too will leave behind a smyker if haven't left the mission yet.

[ornate hamlet]

Actually, I ran an EK staff today and I don’t disagree that it’s pretty non-impactful in terms of bright lights and noise!

But all good points you Brought up. I’ll switch to knife or dueling sword to start, and then just try to keep up better.

And I don’t run smite…I dunno. I love it when someone else does tbh, but I don’t like running it cause it’s…well, boring.

Same thing with bubble. I love it when someone else runs it!

[young cliff]

genuinely want smite to be reworked, turning a fight off at will wherever you want can be quite boring

it should be the CC blitz of psyker, but there is too much and then there is smite

[zealous wing]

yeah it has its place, and good uses, but as it stands too many people are just relying on smite to get them out of situations

similar to stealth abilities, actually

[young cliff]

will always say that using stealth to drop aggro should be meet with an equally fast and impactful move
if you dont have enemy agro, i hope you are laying a frag carpet on the bulwark conga or that the gunner squad at the other side of the room are having a live reaction of The Creeper tearing them in half

[prime elk]

stealth abilities are also kinda ass for your team, just like smite, but in a different way

[young cliff]

people linger in stealth too much sometimes and that's what leads to issues for the team in general because for a while its a 3 v many instead of 4v many

[prime elk]

3 vets running stealth with the 90% aggro reduction node

with the fourth player being a purg psyker

i would watch that match

[young cliff]

i lived something close to that with a vet and zealot stealht, i was a psyker with VB so i managed, but it was not funny

[prime elk]

at least zealot stealth is like what

6s max?

technically vet can get up to 18

though granted long cd

[young cliff]

what you are supposed to do invi 18 frigging seconds? dont think i have lasted more than 6 seconds tops

[prime elk]

troll the team ig

[young cliff]

and that's underhand tossing frags as enemies pass me, so its really a long time doing nothing

[prime elk]

i mean 8 seconds of it is true invis

the rest is just aggro dumping

[young cliff]

yeah, and 10 seconds of not helping team is dumb

[prime elk]

unfortunately it's just an ability that is designed to be very good at trolling/griefing teammates

[young cliff]

Vet rework cant come sooner to save us (or screw us harder, if ObeseFish is in charge is not certain success)

[zinc phoenix]

Result: vet stealth max time lengthens to 8 minutes

All vet abilities now give aggro dump

[zealous wing]

literally no one would ever play with a vet

except the number hunters

[ornate hamlet]

I find the largest issue with stealth is in order to make it impactful, you need to abandon your team.

I ran on vet with Brauto. It was fantastic for sneaking ahead behind enemy gun lines and clearing the way before the team gets there.

However, Heaven forbid anything goes wrong. Then you’re just stranded, screwed and dead.

[prime elk]

yeah always have an exit plan with invis

[zealous wing]

also random note but is there a way to save a custom layout for creature spawner to have a custom trial?

[prime elk]

you can get in, but how do you get out?

[zinc phoenix]

So you can build around all this stuff to shoot some dudes in the back from a dangerous position with stealth… or you can just go plasma voc and shoot them in the face from total safety

[prime elk]

that's part of the fun of invis tho

you can't just shout your way out of every problem

time your ult poorly and you will pay for it

[zealous wing]

yeah just aggrodump the 5 crushers onto the two psykers with your shroudfield zealot buddy

for bonus points do it several times throughout the level

[prime elk]

i have (unintentionally) done that before

crusher wave shows up. and i'm just like. "fuck it, i'm out". press F

purg psyker behind me frantically M1ing

[ornate hamlet]

That’s the thing. It’s why I usually play recon las vet. Stick with the team, get to use an ability that buffs everyone and makes them basiclzly impossible to kill, stay in coherency…it’s all just better

[prime elk]

to be fair i started stabbing the crushers from behind pretty quickly

[zealous wing]

the issue is, not every psyker knows to have a high dmg melee if they're running a CC staff

like an FGS

they probably trust that people playing a team oriented game would indeed play as a team

[ornate hamlet]

FGS is amazing, but I find it’s hard to run on staff builds. Slow movement, slow attacks.

Although On a scriers gaze build it slaps, obliterates everything so fast!

[zealous wing]

its why i dont QP damnation or auric on my own. i can handle myself on heresy and below so far, but anything higher and i risk being abandoned, aggrodumped, etc

[prime elk]

yeah obscurus or deimos are better sidearms for purg/VB

[zealous wing]

gotta have at least one trusted squadmate

[prime elk]

or DS / knife

[zealous wing]

i have FGS on all my builds

[prime elk]

FGS is good, just slow

and worse TTK against armor compared to obscurus/deimos

[zealous wing]

obscurus i didnt test, but deimos also feels slower for crusher kills

i have the mod for fighting creatures now though so i can run better tests

[prime elk]

deimos is slower but safer

obscurus is... lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185515538475134998/1315586614495547485/lol.mp4?ex=68c9bfc3&is=68c86e43&hm=40a362f80cb71b10cab58b2432f5a269333659323b14ea1a1ddde5fc25b407c2&

granted this with buffs up, but it's still insanely fast either way at killing armor

clip from path

[zealous wing]

range is also something to consider

i just tested and yeah it went not great

gimme a sec to edit the clips

[thorn cedar]

deimos isnt slow nor is it particularly fast, but the benefit is that you can ignore whatever your H2 hits because that fucker is gonna be counting his teeth on the floor for 15 seconds

sort of like how i use my doggo, it's not so much the raw DPS output but the capacity for control

H2 one crusher, push attack a bulwark open, H2 them to the floor

[zealous wing]

first clip i AM a little rusty and wouldve been dead several times in. with FGS, the range keeps me away from their attacks

this is with no buffs active to retain minimum variables

well, besides my passive ones but its the same in both clips

[prime elk]

remember to dodge

[zealous wing]

the fuck you think i was doing

[prime elk]

the very first overhead should've been very easily avoidable

and tbh fgs would get you fucked here too

because fgs has shit dodges

extra range won't save you

the range difference isn't that big

[zealous wing]

its big enough

[prime elk]

well just use whatever you're comfortable with

fgs is very good too

[sturdy reef]

obscurus the goat for staffker

[zealous wing]

if only it didnt feel like shit to use imo

deimos clearly got the most animation love

[prime elk]

yeah obscurus animations are floaty as fuck

[sturdy reef]

obscurus range is pretty insane

[ornate hamlet]

Tbh I’ve never ran DS because of obvious reasons. But I may on psyker because of the speed/ease of killing crushers and maulers

FGS does a great job at that, but like I said, it’s slow unless you’re running SG

[prime elk]

i run obscurus as the "ethical" choice

[zealous wing]

also i love FGS because

the satisfaction from the warp slice is too much to say goodbye to

it also can save someone from a dog even if they're in a room above

(doesnt even need to be full charge)

[ornate hamlet]

This is true. Nothing feels better than unleashing a fully charged warp slash and watching literally everything die all at once.

Fuck me. I’m playing my SG build when I get home.

[woeful sigil]

I like fgs warp slice spamming with warp unbound

[zealous wing]

lvl 1 vet invites me to a party, and 2 other randoms. fucking turns off his console, probably in mild panic

not angry btw it was funny

he didnt walk around or anything so he was probably trying to figure out how to leave a squad and gave up

[proper osprey]

Sorry was me

[zealous wing]

come back ill help you lvl your vet

[radiant frigate]

the sheer amount of frogs

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[ripe obsidian]

Ribbit. I have a handful of fun, froggy things saved

[radiant frigate]

most excellent

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you for sharing with me the batrachian horde

[radiant frigate]

it has been my pleasure

[ripe obsidian]

I have unfortunately returned to the US, so they bolster my spirit

[ripe obsidian]

The warp slash is one of the most satisfying things Fatshark has made.

[radiant frigate]

yet force greatsword would still be great without it
but together, they are magnificent

it's like a way of beating a heretic with another heretic('s soul)

[ripe obsidian]

Since there's no way to do it here, as you can in BG3

[wraith sphinx]

Last night I played with a sibling who kept spamming the zero charge warp slash, it was kind of adorable

[patent jacinth]

Blazing spirit warp slash spam

Discount discount Purgatus

[ripe obsidian]

Wouldn't it be fantastic if Ogryn got, like, a power fist with a special attack that grabs the nearest man-sized enemy and swings them like a club?

[patent jacinth]

No

It would be terrible

[wraith sphinx]

He doesn't need a power fist for that

[patent jacinth]

Game ruining

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[zealous wing]

i could watch that all day

[patent jacinth]

Positively catastrophic

[zealous wing]

end of a malice mission an oggy and i just bullied the last dreg in a corner

[patent jacinth]

We would never recover from the ogryn fist weapon

100% drop in sales

[radiant frigate]

ogryn pugilist melee option when

pick up heretics and then give them the batman treatment when you're done

[wraith sphinx]

Bully club slap not good enough for you? 😤

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[zealous wing]

slapping is fun, slapping a heretic with another heretic is better

[radiant frigate]

does extra damage when you grab a mauler

[ripe obsidian]

Maulers and ragers are pretty pointy

[zealous wing]

what do you guys think the dreg mauler will look like?

[radiant frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/283579612695625729/1180115604636696576/Spinny.gif

[patent jacinth]

I miss the skateboarders

[zealous wing]

im glad CS still do this

keep the spirit alive

[radiant frigate]

yeah but they do not carry threat of oneshot

[zealous wing]

depends if youre a psyker or not

[cosmic cobalt]

idk if dreg mauler fit into the game as of now

[zealous wing]

the voicelines already play, wdym

[wraith sphinx]

Will probably trade armor for speed or something along those lines

[zealous wing]

i would hope so

like, i hate it, but like it

[wraith sphinx]

I think it would've been teased already if it was happening though

[zealous wing]

dreg ragers already throw me off so easy

idk they've barely teased the other new enemies

and its pretty hard to deny plans when the callouts already exist

[wraith sphinx]

Also unrelated but I've given up on my fussing over making an effective veteran build

[wraith sphinx]

I am back to not minmaxing my damage and I am happy

[cosmic cobalt]

literally the third best melee class in the game but ok

[zealous wing]

3rd?

its definitely a top 5, thats for sure

[wraith sphinx]

And who would be the top 2

[cosmic cobalt]

bro doing more melee damage than zealot he is not coming back

[zealous wing]

psyker better be up there

[cosmic cobalt]

psyker with gaze is good yeah

I forogr

top 2 still ogryn and arby

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah figures

[zealous wing]

issue with arby is how few know how to actually melee

[wraith sphinx]

Veteran struggles compared to gaze psyker because of stamina management

[zealous wing]

always begging for ammo

[ripe obsidian]

A good veteran with power sword is better in melee than a Zealot without FotF, I guess.

[wraith sphinx]

I ended up slapping three stam regen perks on my curios just to keep up

[cosmic cobalt]

any finesse weapon scale way better on vet

[wraith sphinx]

I actually hate that so much

[ripe obsidian]

@buoyant maple does veteran have better finesse scaling than zealot?

[cosmic cobalt]

sorry chat i was using the funny boltgun

[wraith sphinx]

Op melee
Still use their shotgun at melee range all the time

[cosmic cobalt]

i mean you could get a proc with the dodge for 50% finesse damage talent

but that last only 3 sec

[zealous wing]

i almost wish i could play CIVI maels all the time

[wraith sphinx]

They are fun

[cosmic cobalt]

meanwhile melee vet have a lot going for him precision strike, reciprocity , desperador

actually they're all pick on most vet build anyway

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know enough about veteran or zealot to have an informed opinion

[zealous wing]

so why do the vets always either shoot at melee range or use a combat knife and infiltrate then flee in terror from a monstrosity

(same with shroudfields 99% of the time)

[cosmic cobalt]

it called a krill issue

look it up batman

[ripe obsidian]

Secretly replace the aggro drop on shroudfield with a taunt/aggro pull effect. Punish the stealthers.

[zealous wing]

yes please

vet taunt

[ripe obsidian]

https://old.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryElves/

@radiant frigate

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah it's my fave side of the tree

I just went back to going down to WS and only grabbing iron will, ignoring the left side of the tree

It's fun

[cosmic cobalt]

left side have precision strike

i pretty much alway take ps, rep, desp and more ammo on all of my vet build

[wraith sphinx]

I tried making a build that picked all the meta traits and traits I want and it just didn't work out

"Bbut my damage talents? F tier build???" Idc I can't even die if I'm smart about using infiltrate

[verbal thistle]

Only 2 finesse increases iirc

The red node above MMF and MMF itself

While zealot only has duelist

[patent jacinth]

Desperado

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

Despo

[patent jacinth]

And the node above MMF is weakspot specifically

[verbal thistle]

Ahh

[patent jacinth]

And MMF is written as “ranged finesse” on Gameslantern so I think it’s just desperado

Though it would make perfect sense for ranged finesse to just be FS code for all finesse with an extra word attached

[cosmic cobalt]

mmf?

[cosmic cobalt]

not to mention abysmal uptime lol

[radiant frigate]

[ripe obsidian]

Is just ranged.

"stat buffs:
ranged_finesse_modifier_bonus"

[radiant frigate]

what is mmf

[ripe obsidian]

Marksman's Focus

[sterile vale]

Marksman's Focus

[radiant frigate]

ah yes, the worthless keystone

[ripe obsidian]

Worfless indeed. Worf takes Weapon Specialist.

[wraith sphinx]

yeah 💀 only used it for the penance

it's sooo bad

[radiant frigate]

had to crabwalk for that penance

at least it had bonus toughness gen at max stacks

[sterile vale]

All the penances are easier with mortis trials nowadays

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/elmer-fudd-elmer-bugs-bunny-movie-bugs-bunny-movies-the-bugs-bunny-and-roadrunner-movie-gif-6828400706656481086

[sterile vale]

Autopistol with cavalcade goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[wraith sphinx]

pov mmf vet

[sterile vale]

I'm gonna check helbore with mmf in the meat grinder real quick

[ripe obsidian]

Huh. The gif I tried to post double-posted then vanished.

Was just a dancing crab to respond to crabwalking

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

[zealous wing]

lmao i think i spawned too many trappers

i crashed my game

the sound got so borked

wont ever not be funny to have so many trappers tho

[radiant frigate]

HELLO MY PRETTIES

[zealous wing]

the heh heh heh heh heh gets me every time

they did great for the sound design and voice acting

the tox bombers give me the creeps tho

[radiant frigate]

MY
GRENADES
WILL FIND THEEEE

[radiant frigate]

hello? human resources?

[obtuse dome]

I would take a hit

He seems chill

[cosmic cobalt]

british "people"

[ripe obsidian]

Reminds me of the Fredas Goblin

[ornate hamlet]

He looks very polite

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-my-head-hurts-headache-cat-gif-14622281057500278312

I need to drink more water

[wraith sphinx]

CIVI maelstrom on rn

[wraith sphinx]

I forgot there was a tiny hole here

CIVI ruined

[dusk timber]

Nice

[radiant frigate]

Death

[upper sun]

coffee NOW

[marble crater]

I don't drink coffee

[radiant frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uwkOKwpuqVI

[upper sun]

WHAT

[radiant frigate]

i also do not drink coffee regularly

[upper sun]

WHAT

what kind of europeans are you two

[marble crater]

That's how you die

[upper sun]

ive seen germans annihilate pour over coffee pots

[marble crater]

The kind that's not addicted to coffee

[upper sun]

get addicted now

[radiant frigate]

i consume energy drinks which might be worse

[upper sun]

no

[marble crater]

Get this; I also don't smoke

[upper sun]

theyre yummy and have vitamins

dont listen to old people propaganda as long as you drink water here and there energy drinks are fine

[upper sun]

yeah thats fine

[radiant frigate]

i also do not smoke personally

[marble crater]

My brother drinks like 6 a day, are you worse than that?

[radiant frigate]

fuck no

hard limit is 2 for me

[upper sun]

get your brother in here

max 3 for me if its a rough day

[radiant frigate]

though one of my coworkers demolished 13 (?????) in one day

[upper sun]

otherwise 1 coffee 1 energy drink

[marble crater]

Is that coworker still alive?

[radiant frigate]

yes

he didn't have accelerated pulse or anything either

[marble crater]

That's... concerning

[radiant frigate]

how one can function after 3 liters of energy drink is beyond me

maybe he's just built different

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjs2vPR19mQ

[marble crater]

[radiant frigate]

it all started when i saw i think like 6 cans of energy drink on his desk

and i asked him if he drank all those

and he just goes "yeah and then some before i got here, and some that i already returned"

[upper sun]

he really needed to wörk

[radiant frigate]

how to max dps at work

[upper sun]

my best stimulant abuse memory is when a friend gave me an Adderall because i had to prepare for a party

ended up drinking several cups of coffee and smoking a lot

cleaned the entire house+yard went to the supermarket 4 times and baked 5 cakes frosting and all

[marble crater]

Doing drugs, while on drugs

[upper sun]

spent most of the party on the toilet however

100% worth it

[marble crater]

[dusk timber]

[cold geode]

And to think I just play video games on it.

[upper sun]

nah thats a better use

gaming on ultra instinct is peak

[cold geode]

Fucking locked in earlier playing hunt and murdered two teams of two, then we scooped up the bounties and disappeared.

The 3rd guy I headshot in mid air while he was jumping off a ramp behind Salters pork.

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-cat-car-cat-meme-cats-gif-13549128190129307854

what game are we talking about?

[cold geode]

Hunt showdown 1896

Pvpve extraction shooter, set in a fantasy wild west with demons and zombies. And actually super accurate period specific weapons.

[cosmic cobalt]

"super accurate"

[cold geode]

I mean for the animation and action of the weapons.

There are a bunch of fantasy weapons in it. And at least one gun that they can't make more accurate without rewriting a bunch of code.

https://youtu.be/YllsoG-ieZs

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-bird-tea-gif-4007184062931828221

[cold geode]

Is one of the games I fuck around with when I'm not playing DT

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah like ejecting saa round by sheer power of the mind lol

I wouldn't call hunt weapon "realistic" and more like "authentic"

[upper sun]

im just replaying dying light 1

[cold geode]

Again in terms of rendering, action, ECT. It's one of the more realistic renderings of them in games. If you don't believe me go watch any of the videos Johnathan and Dave did at Gamespot about them.

[cold geode]

Haven't played that in a long long time

[upper sun]

ye its been so long it feels like a new game for me lmao

[cold geode]

I reinstalled Titanfall 2 the other day. Game holds up.

[upper sun]

🤔 i should have gotten it on sale tbh

i always wanted to play it when i was younger but never got the chance

[cold geode]

https://www.cheapshark.com/

Probably on sale somewhere

[upper sun]

thanks ill see

[marble crater]

We need Titanfall 3... respawn please

[upper sun]

why the hell do they keep releasing updates in the middle of the week

23rd what the fuck kind of a date is that

[cold geode]

Apex was listed as Titanfall 3 in the internal tools at EA. Lol.

[plucky flax]

So they can work on patch to come out the next week

[marble crater]

I don't care for battle royals

Burn them all

[cold geode]

They eventually changed it but it took like a year

[upper sun]

first time i played fortnite i got second place

i never played it again

[marble crater]

Smart

[cold geode]

Never even installed it

[upper sun]

i can imagine killing children playing on their phones while you have a mouse is fun i can understand the appeal

[buoyant maple]

No

Unless u include marksman’s focus which is ranged only

[fossil tinsel]

As someone who hasn’t really played psyker on high havoc in probably a good six months, do y’all have any suggestions or tips or builds that make surviving easier? I feel so incredibly squishy and slow.

I’m just noticing that hardly anyone wants to play psyker on havoc and it’s much easier when you do have someone who is willing to be psyker so I’d like to be able to competently fill that role more often

[icy breach]

Never run with your staff, use your melee for that

[icy breach]

I see plenty of copy paste purgatus psyker builds

[marble crater]

There are builds, inlcuding havoc, in the pins

[jovial juniper]

Zealot outfinessing everyone with a single dodge

https://tenor.com/view/crying-one-piece-anime-gif-4502646032764566609

https://tenor.com/view/mans-got-finesse-dj-khaled-slocal-dancing-jarrel-the-young-gif-15205060

[near gale]

the 23rd day of the month I would assume

[dusk timber]

Next week

[near gale]

gottem

[zealous wing]

yeah 22nd would make more sense, monday rather than the 2nd day of the week, but, who knows why they decide

[fossil tinsel]

DS is the meta, but I’ve found that if I’m Psyker using Melee things have gone to crap, for just general damage I assume purgatus is king but should I run Dagger with extra stamina to survive, for example, the twins (just this morning had the twins and a captain simultaneously)

[upper sun]

this friday makes a lot more sense 😭

[zealous wing]

valid but maybe they actually have a plan?

for once?

maybe?

its a stretch though i know

[upper sun]

apparently not updates 🚬

[marble crater]

Tuesday is patch day

[zealous wing]

i do wonder if they wanted it to not be monday, simply in the case there's finishing touches that need to be done, and not friday so they can get a hotfix out if something is HORRIBLY wrecked

[marble crater]

Yes, that's why a lot of games get patched on Tuesdays

[zealous wing]

like, servers wont launch broken

i did not know this

TIL

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah for 3 seconds

[near gale]

everyone knows you gotta release your patch on steam's maintenance day

https://tenor.com/view/cat-steam-maintenance-tuesday-funny-gif-5125368307851606673

[jovial juniper]

It's because FS drops updates/hotfixes on Thursday/Tuesday

So they are just keeping the tradition

[wraith sphinx]

those are usually the least active days, I suppose

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-need-more-time-the-ghost-of-christmas-way-future-sam-richardson-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-do-you-need-some-extra-time-gif-6800210877777966788

3 is all you need

[wraith sphinx]

[buoyant maple]

that's not how duellist works (it's better)

duellist is 50%Wdmg and 50%Cdmg, which add together for crit-weakspot hits

[paper dust]

@deft stump fluffy

Prease

https://tenor.com/view/dying-hungry-and-thirsty-gif-16689267

[deft stump]

She is out so no greeble.

[paper dust]

The world is unfair

[jovial juniper]

Another zealot w

As always

Dodges once
Outfinesses Khorne

[dusk timber]

Wait thats how its calculated?

[zealous wing]

question about havoc

[wraith sphinx]

dangerous

[zealous wing]

if i downgrade my assignment does that also affect the rank displayed for others?

just curiosity mainly

19+ havoc is not fun, esp if im not in the mood for it, so im thinking about just knocking it back down to 10 or lower to get a penance done and then just leaving it be for a while, but im curious about how it specifically works

[marble crater]

no idea, we can try and test it

[zealous wing]

mebbe

[dusk timber]

Meballs

[zealous wing]

made the mistake of going to LFG earlier to try helping someone with their penance for havoc and oh BOY i regret

[marble crater]

I will join you and you can tell me which Havoc rank you see for me

[zealous wing]

i can also just lower mine if you wanna keep yours up

since i plan to lower anyway

[marble crater]

I haven't played havoc in weeks, so it's the perfect test

[zealous wing]

fair enough

[upper sun]

dodging? could NOT be me

man i need to play more i have only made like 2 clips for 3 weeks

[zealous wing]

here have a clip

[upper sun]

thats how he remembers whos who!!!!

[dusk timber]

Have two clips🖇️

[jovial juniper]

The medpack was just for show

😭

[upper sun]

i got scared i forgot i was playing a perfectly balanced and fair class

[marble crater]

@zealous wingwe will start a private mission and then just fail it and be in the same lobby

[zealous wing]

we could do a speedrun

or not LMAO

[marble crater]

No time for a speedrun, need to walk my dog

[zealous wing]

lmao valid

who can die fastest

sut died first

[marble crater]

[zealous wing]

i forgot psykers can overload

it doesnt say havoc clearance

[marble crater]

Guess it shows the highest you cleared

[buoyant maple]

Yea

[buoyant maple]

No

The rank displayed is highest you’ve completed this season

[graceful arch]

Well you don't demote your clearance you demote your assignment rank.

[buoyant maple]

Your own assignment has nothing to do with that rank display

Which is why it’s not rly worth grinding all the way till assignment 40 cuz it’ll just get reset when fatshark decides to

[jovial juniper]

Just grind till 25-26 and accept players trying to get the blackbian armor

[buoyant maple]

(Which, could even be next week)

[jovial juniper]

[zealous wing]

i literally just want the chestpiece

which is 50 assignments, no specific ranks

[marble crater]

I'm going to walk my dog now, bye @zealous wing

[zealous wing]

kk, ty, enjoy the walk

[buoyant maple]

It’s nice yea
It’s also easy to get

Getting moebian 53rd armor set is not hard

[zealous wing]

problem is im a shit player when im in a group of randoms

esp ones who say im a psyker so i'll have bubble

dude had the audacity to berate my bubble placement when he never called for it to be placed anywhere specific

[cosmic cobalt]

kinda hard to place bubble in a bad place once you played enough tbf

[zealous wing]

it definitely happened a couple times first round, because ive been using scriers not bubble

but the last round is when he started bitching

quietly

i had his discord volume at 200% and could barely hear anything except something about when i place a bubble i should something something not do something

[ripe obsidian]

Did not think so. Someone was trying to argue otherwise. Melee, specifically.

[zealous wing]

dude got so mad at a team wipe via trapper and dog that he said the FS devs should be killed IRL 💀

[buoyant maple]

Melee then no

Veteran gets 30%Wdmg and 25%FNS

Zealot gets 50%Wdmg and 50%Cdmg

[graceful arch]

Lol

[buoyant maple]

With that said

Veteran’s strongest melee, being power sword VI, does scale finesse very hard

Whereas many of zealot’s melee weapons aren’t that finesse oriented

[ripe obsidian]

This sort of shit is why Zenimax had to hire increased security when I worked there.

[graceful arch]

In 99.99% of cases that is just hot air and empty threats.

But you can never be sure of the 0.01%

[zealous wing]

a chance is a chance

[cloud oar]

for gunker, what's the main difference between the Vrak Autogun and the Mk VIc Accatran Recon Lasgun?

[zealous wing]

uh

brrrrrr

[cloud oar]

they both do seem to brrrr

[zealous wing]

what blessins go on vrak again if anyone remembers?

[cosmic cobalt]

dum dum and backshot

[zealous wing]

meantime ill get a recon clip

[cloud oar]

Dum Dum + Deathspitter

IIR

IIRC

[zealous wing]

perks?

[cosmic cobalt]

unyielding

[cloud oar]

ya. Vrak is Dum Dum + Deathspitter, or Fire Frenzy (Deathspitter is slightly more consistent)

Perks are...

Flak + Maniac?

[buoyant maple]

autogun kills almost everything faster
recon can burn things and has less recoil

[cloud oar]

Though tbh I prefer Flak + Carapice

[cosmic cobalt]

why cara on autogun

😭

flak maniac unyielding

[cloud oar]

Because while it's not exactly optimal, I have found I perform better when I assume my team is terrible and stupid

[buoyant maple]

Not carapace

Unyielding + flak for psyker

On gun

[jovial juniper]

Vraks5 kills

[cosmic cobalt]

I don't think you should be gunpsykering when your team is terrible and stupid bru

[buoyant maple]

Can drop flak even

lol

Most things die super fast to giga juiced finesse + chained crit anyway

Psyker op

[cloud oar]

I can't control pugs, sadly.

[zealous wing]

this is what i have on hand and will be testing in the clip

[buoyant maple]

Why weakspot damage

[zealous wing]

uh

[cosmic cobalt]

go for crit chance or flak instead

but flak is better

[zealous wing]

wrong ss

[buoyant maple]

On recon u do like 3 extra damage with 10%Wdmg

Per shot

[cloud oar]

ya cause at a glance the Vraks/ Mk VIc are

fucking identical

[cosmic cobalt]

what if the enemy need exactly 3 more damage to kill

[cloud oar]

and I dont have them both to test

[cosmic cobalt]

🙂

[jovial juniper]

[buoyant maple]

Soulblaze 💀

U can largely skip crit chance for those 2 guns on psyker because psyker is op and spawns in at like 22.5% crit chance with a right side build

Also true aim op

And u can press F to give urself 20% more crit chance

[cosmic cobalt]

I find true aim is like wasted since chain crit plus you have scrier's glaze as gunpsyker anyway

[ripe obsidian]

In this case, it was a credible threat. We had to be walked to our cars.

[buoyant maple]

The competitor is reload speed so true aim still wins out

[cosmic cobalt]

lasgun go br

[zealous wing]

no buffs active besides any that are in the talent tree, same tree for both

[cloud oar]

why do all of my lobbies end up with me soloing the horde while me teammates take 4 business days to 3v1 a crusher

[marble crater]

Are you playing in heresy?

[solid pond]

heresy is unironically the hardest difficulty

[buoyant maple]

Yea the giga finesse gun wins who’d have thought

[solid pond]

the bots would be better than those teammates

[buoyant maple]

Recon also has low ADM vs unyielding

[zealous wing]

i've had bots fare better in auric than some of the players there (i might be one of those players sometimes)

[buoyant maple]

I think it was 65% for XII and XIV, 75% for VIc (within 10m)

Forgor

[zealous wing]

ye im slowly switching myself to vraks i think, much as i hate the recoil

[pale prairie]

Wait which recon mark is preferred cause I thought it was XII

[solid pond]

IVc is noice

or VI

[buoyant maple]

VIc

[solid pond]

fuck knows

slow shoot

[proper spoke]

Regular team: your bubble is such a lifesaver.
Same team: constantly runs off in opposite directions

[zealous wing]

i was told xii

[solid pond]

brrt make dopamine

[cloud oar]

so its a 33s TTK vs a 20s TTK

[buoyant maple]

XII is basically just an infernus gun

[cloud oar]

the Vrak does a lot more damage but the XIc is also just way better at actual range

[buoyant maple]

In a full build it’s more like 14s vs 4.3s

[cloud oar]

vs hordes

[solid pond]

nobody is actually shooting hordes

[zealous wing]

sometimes i do, for funsies, if last stand and tons of ammo

[cloud oar]

So if I see like 8 gunners

[solid pond]

specific situation, but generally, while you can shoot a horde

[cloud oar]

I SHOULDNT shoot them?

[solid pond]

you shouldn't lol

8 gunners is not a horde

[cloud oar]

no, but they are IN a horde

almost always

[solid pond]

🫃

[zealous wing]

thats what assail is for

[cloud oar]

so guns are exclusively for bosses mostly

[buoyant maple]

No

[zealous wing]

nah you CAN shoot specials and elites, infact you should its faster

[buoyant maple]

U shoot at things u can’t immediately hit with ur melee in the next 2s

[marble crater]

Just shoot whatever you want, don't listen to the fun police

[buoyant maple]

This is a general rule to follow outside of staff psyker

[graceful arch]

You should mag dump into hordes to assert dominance

[solid pond]

with a bolter

so you run out of ammo faster

[zealous wing]

i just use whichever i can get to faster, gun vs assail, while also trying to gauge risk vs reward. dog? shoot. trapper running away? targeted assail

[cloud oar]

What I've -been- doing is.

• Is it in melee range?
• If no, is it in melee with someone else
• If no, are you high peril
• If no, use Assail, if yes, shoot the gun

[solid pond]

only magdump enemies your friendlies are attacking

[zealous wing]

if youre at high peril throw the assail anyway, unless your scrier is on CD and the linger effect is over or you dont have the perk to prevent overloading

[marble crater]

In that time you could have mag dumped 3 times, smh

[solid pond]

they really love when they get help like that

[cloud oar]

only exception is if I see someone get downed in the middle of a hallway and I have to rambo hipfire to have literally any hope of clearing fast enough to pick them up

[marble crater]

Shoot every burster

[cloud oar]

thats generally what I mean

[solid pond]

ESPECIALLY when they're ontop of your allies

it gives them a damage boost

[cloud oar]

if im in scrier 10s window and my assail doesnt read "0" i fucked up somewhere

[graceful arch]

Importantly if your zealot has a lot of wounds you need to heal stim them and place medpacks at their feet at all costs

[zealous wing]

ESPECIALLY shoot the bursters near martyrdom zealots. they will thank you for giving them free HP

[solid pond]

bonus points if you have field improv as a vet

[graceful arch]

Evil

[cloud oar]

okay as someone who has played Martyrdom Zealot. I do NOT understand why they hate being healed

[solid pond]

if you hear/see your zealot just popped until death

[zealous wing]

kill EVERYTHING

[solid pond]

you have to shoot all yellow barrels near them

[cloud oar]

Oh noooooooo, you lost your stacks. You can also now take a ton more damage, and just... Get them back?

[solid pond]

and also

make sure they don't get into melee range of anything for 5 seconds

they could die

you want to prevent that

[zealous wing]

probably something about yellow numbers

idk

[cloud oar]

martyrdom zealots that dont wanna be healed boggle my mind

[solid pond]

why heal go to me when heal not needed on me

why no heal someone else, or save it for yourself

or just

[graceful arch]

I just prefer to not have people waste their healing on me when it's better spent on someone else.

[solid pond]

give me the med stim so if I actually get low

I just stim

[cosmic cobalt]

martydom zealot when burster

[solid pond]

let them control their edging

[cosmic cobalt]

real

[cloud oar]

I mean no i get martyrdom zealots being low heal priority

but these people will see a 4 charge medicae and act like a 5 year old being told to take a horse pill

[zealous wing]

there are marty's who get mad at people placing a medipack down

[solid pond]

cuz if im 20hp with until death up, its more like 80hp cuz im gonna heal 50-60 from holy rev

[jovial juniper]

Push

[solid pond]

knife it from 12km away

[zealous wing]

push shoot

[solid pond]

[solid pond]

Porque no los dos?

shotpistol special

[cloud oar]

I just shoot them in the face with my revolver. Specifically when they're next to psykers.
(No one will miss a liability)

[zealous wing]

jokes on you i lose half my hp 2 seconds after i heal anyway

usually more

:(

jokes on me isnt it

[solid pond]

find fire to stand on

[graceful arch]

Its important to play arbitrator aggro a bunch of pox bursters then stand on top of teammates use castigator and refuse to push.

Cool party trick to pull on your freinds

[cloud oar]

i cannot count the amount of times I've stepped in flamer fire thinking it was a psyker grenade and immediately gone "ow ow fuck ow"

[cosmic cobalt]

server decide to be shit at that exact moment and now you're on the ground

[cloud oar]

and hobbled out

[cosmic cobalt]

💔

[solid pond]

what in the fuck

is a psyker grenade

[cloud oar]

err

zealot grenade

lmao

[jovial juniper]

[cosmic cobalt]

psyker grenade

[jovial juniper]

Actually

[zealous wing]

its important to play shroudfield speedrunner and aggrodump an event buster train while you flee in cowardice because you're terrified you might die before the psyker

[solid pond]

for future reference, the fire is much different colour and height lol

[cloud oar]

Psyker grenade. Maybe you slackers arent trying hard enough

you dont bring frag bombs on psykers?

[cloud oar]

I KNOW IM JUST STUPID

[cosmic cobalt]

hard to differentiate when it chaotic

[cloud oar]

It usually happens when I'm getting jumped by 4 crushers and my team is off in the corner just

[jovial juniper]

Have you ever Shroudfield with your teammates life on the line
Blue lock.png

[cosmic cobalt]

just install the mod that change the particle

[graceful arch]

Perfectionist shroudfield is very fun to play though

[solid pond]

skissue

[cloud oar]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-gif-24307158

in front of 4 dregs

[cosmic cobalt]

I've never died due to barrel after that

[graceful arch]

You stealth and insta gib 2 enemies just to stealth agian in 5-6 seconds

[cosmic cobalt]

outside ledge

[solid pond]

danger zone is nice for sort of that too

[cosmic cobalt]

and dump all the aggro on psyker

[zealous wing]

though in all seriousness, DO do this to smyker

[cosmic cobalt]

Kill smyker

[zealous wing]

specifically THOSE smykers you know the ones

[cloud oar]

Hot take: stealth zealot should be flat out removed from the game

[cosmic cobalt]

Skin smyker

[graceful arch]

Well you should position yourself a good bit away from the team as shroudfield zealot anyways

[solid pond]

alive or dead?

[zealous wing]

there are some who are just penancing but being polite, you can ignore them, they are harmless

[cosmic cobalt]

I don't care

death to smyker

torture to smyker

strangle smyker off spring

end smyker bloodline

[zealous wing]

smyker is honestly less harmful than stealth vets/zealots imo

[graceful arch]

I have pathed smite once or twice but never used it.

[solid pond]

🫃

[graceful arch]

[solid pond]

I have only ever seen 1 stealth vet that didn't make me cringe

[cloud oar]

Seriously though why is stealth zealot in the game?

[solid pond]

dude actually played it well

every single other one (and there is so many) just fucking sucks

[zealous wing]

ive seen a few, they use the stealth to do data interrogations or backstab crushers, they are fine

[wraith sphinx]

yeah that was me 😊

[solid pond]

I swear I get them more than Smykers

[cosmic cobalt]

stealth vet and zealot isn't made for current iteration of the game

[wraith sphinx]

I love my rescue ranger vet

[graceful arch]

You can play it in low havocs and not troll, but you have to be perfectionist zealot and not the meme 5 seconds run off zealot.

[cloud oar]

Stealth vets are fine; they usually use stealth to do obj, stealth zealots are, without fail, giga-toxic tryhards who only play multiplayer games to stroke their egos

because high number on scoreboard

[solid pond]

[graceful arch]

Love stereotyping

[cloud oar]

ONE DAY I will see a stealth Zealot that is actually a team player

[graceful arch]

Sure just hit me up when I'm off work...

[solid pond]

I wonder if in the eventual rework for zealot, maybe the stealth will allow you to walk through non boss enemies like shade can in VT2

right guys?

[graceful arch]

Will not bring that shit to h40 though

[cloud oar]

Gladly. I WANT to be proven wrong.

[graceful arch]

[wraith sphinx]

Jokes aside I did have this issue where I just felt selfish and useless for running stealth but considering I've never received any criticism for my stealth vet plays at all I don't really care anymore

[cloud oar]

Stealth Vets I've seen use the ability to actually help the team lmao

[graceful arch]

You can pull impossible rescues with stealth it's quite fun

[solid pond]

people kill me often enough I would not give the slightest fuck about running stealth

they're gonna fall over to something dumb regardless

[wraith sphinx]

true

[solid pond]

I swear 90% of my deaths are teammate related

with the occasional skill issue

[graceful arch]

Sounds like a true auric player.

[cosmic cobalt]

spoken like a true league player

[solid pond]

lmao

[cloud oar]

tbh

90% of my hate for stealh zealot comes from a single fucking talent that needs to be removed

[solid pond]

in high havoc you just don't die, simple as

[cloud oar]

yall already know

[graceful arch]

Loner??

[cloud oar]

y e s

[graceful arch]

[solid pond]

usually if people start dying it goes downhill very fast so you usually just die because you're overwhelmed

[graceful arch]

Oh I run benediction

[solid pond]

but auric? people cannot stop shooting barrels and bursters

[wraith sphinx]

last night I was teamed up with some unfortunately very tunnel visioned players on chasm station auric, they got downed/died in the finale close to 12 times, at one point I started getting tilted and stopped to type "guys focus or we'll lose"

[solid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-bonk-bonk-cat-attack-white-cat-bonk-camera-gif-12579285308205623581

[wraith sphinx]

we would have 1000% lost that mission if I didn't play my stealth vet

[cloud oar]

Why in god's name is there a talent that gives you buffs for not playing with your team in a team-based extraction shooter

[solid pond]

extraction shooter?

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean you extract at the end of the mission

[cloud oar]

Extraction Shooter referring to the subgenre of shooter that is "Drop in, do obj, get to extraction"

[cosmic cobalt]

😍

[cosmic cobalt]

No?

[wraith sphinx]

please do not compare darktide to nikita's brainsharts

that's a slur

[solid pond]

lmao

[buoyant maple]

DT is def not an extraction shooter lol

[cosmic cobalt]

that make gtfo an extraction shooter

[quasi atlas]

me when i finally extract with a 20% peril flame staff so I can keep it

[cosmic cobalt]

or drg

[solid pond]

drop in, do obj, get out lmao

[cloud oar]

am I using that term incorrectly?

[wraith sphinx]

Yes

[zealous wing]

i shall give vraks an actual attempt

[cosmic cobalt]

people really be calling everything extraction shooter nowaday

[solid pond]

how is darktides missions any different from linear layout like, halo missions for example

is halo an extraction shooter?

[graceful arch]

Extraction shooters main component is the loot that you can extract from missions.

[solid pond]

you spawn, go a direction, kill shit, leave

[zealous wing]

or lose if you die

[cloud oar]

ah, moreso like Escape from Tarkov

[cosmic cobalt]

halo infinite extract itself from my ssd

[cloud oar]

got it

[cosmic cobalt]

Or hunt

[solid pond]

its not halo, yes, but its not a heckin extraction shooter

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-bonk-bonk-cat-attack-white-cat-bonk-camera-gif-12579285308205623581

[cloud oar]

Eh, Halo Infinite was... Okay?

It's one of those games I can play every couple years

[wraith sphinx]

Escape from Tarkov defines the extraction shooter genre, it was the very first game that did it

[solid pond]

Id rather replay the MCC on LASO than play infinite

out of spite

do I know why? no

[cloud oar]

Infinite is honestly massively overhated

like dont get me wrong its not great

[cosmic cobalt]

I got it for free because gamepass and i want refund

[cloud oar]

but its not the antichrist of halo

[solid pond]

compared to other halos

it is

[cloud oar]

halo 5 would like to have a word with you

[solid pond]

id still play that instead

[buoyant maple]

Halo infinite at its core was fun but it had zero new content for ages lol the mismanagement is crazy

[graceful arch]

I don't think anyone has really enjoyed halo all that much since reach or odst.

[solid pond]

reach my beloved

[cloud oar]

TBH I think their main mistake with Halo Infinite was making it Farcry

[buoyant maple]

They’re also switching to UE5 for next halo game I think

[cloud oar]

if they kept the standard level formula it would have been a LOT better

[buoyant maple]

Stutter city electric boogaloo

[solid pond]

there is another halo game?

bruh

[buoyant maple]

Shader compilation #1342717

[wraith sphinx]

there's always gonna be another halo game tbh

[graceful arch]

It's gonna launch with denuvo aswell you bet

[cloud oar]

I will be 100% I am still gonna buy the new halo game

[narrow herald]

Can we let this game die peacefully

Is nostalgia really that profitable 😞

[cloud oar]

because im a shill that hates themselves

[cloud oar]

y e s

[solid pond]

yet another thing they just refuse to let die in good memory

[wraith sphinx]

Nostalgiabait sells like hotcakes

[buoyant maple]

Denuvo if implemented properly doesn’t impact performance that much, as in, don’t make it check server at ridiculous frequency lol

[narrow herald]

Does anyone still play Infinite?

[wraith sphinx]

No clue but I'm speaking in a general sense

[graceful arch]

I can't wait to play all the ue5 games I missed out on in 10 years when hardware catches up

[cloud oar]

The only game series that I refuse to play after the latest installment was Borderlands. Borderlands 3 made me... Unreasonably angry.

[graceful arch]

[wraith sphinx]

lmaooo true!

[cloud oar]

yall dont have an IT sugar daddy?

[wraith sphinx]

a friend gifted me forever winter to play and... yeah nah 💀 maybe in 10 years deadass

[narrow herald]

Wait Darktide isn't ded confirmed

[wraith sphinx]

I refuse to upgrade my PC for a handful of dodgy games

[cloud oar]

That's... A lot more than I thought it'd be actually

[solid pond]

less than DT

which is depressing

lol

[narrow herald]

It's kinda strange too, because Infinite has the capacity to actually be a good competitive focused Halo

[cloud oar]

im surprised 343 isnt remastering Halo 3. That shit would bring in. M O E N Y.

I would fork over $60 for halo 3 remastered in a heartbeat

0 shame

[solid pond]

reach remaster

[marble crater]

I'm surprised 343 hasn't made a good Halo game yet

[wraith sphinx]

didn't 343 rebrand to halo studios

[cosmic cobalt]

yesh you're part of the problem lol

also mcc exist

[buoyant maple]

BL4 gameplay actually good but the optimization is abhorrent

It’s looking to be a banger game to get full edition on a special sale for 20 bucks in 4yrs time

[cloud oar]

i am 100% part of the problem

[cloud oar]

this does not instill me with hope because of TPS

The game hasnt been out long enough

[narrow herald]

I just want a Halo that is as much of a shit storm as TF2

[solid pond]

yeah thats how I saw it, I want to play it but even if I buy it I don't think that helps lmao

[narrow herald]

Is that too much to ask? 😞

[cloud oar]

TPS was really fun but it took a bit for the issues with endgame to present themselves and the game proceeded to wither away and die

[zealous wing]

any tips for aiming with the vraks that i should know or is it "use the fucking irons"

[cosmic cobalt]

mod

[narrow herald]

Use the irons 😈

[buoyant maple]

Nah saying BL4’s gameplay improvements are massive is an understatement tbh

[cosmic cobalt]

crosshair remap and weapon customization no sight

[solid pond]

team fortress or titanfall?

[cloud oar]

Don't be afraid to RIP your mouse down

[buoyant maple]

It’s actually generational leap from BL3

[narrow herald]

Team fortress

[solid pond]

[cosmic cobalt]

no the iron is ass

[narrow herald]

Like imagine if Halo just went full forge mode

[cosmic cobalt]

I refuse

[wraith sphinx]

BL fans are eating it up but I remain thoroughly unimpressed

whatever, not my circus

[narrow herald]

Just the most ridiculous party games

[cosmic cobalt]

I love BL

I love men kissing

[wraith sphinx]

I saw a funny af gif tho

[solid pond]

BL fun little side gig away from other games for a week or 2

[cloud oar]

Not having played BL4, I thought BL3 had the best gameplay in the series. That did NOT keep it from being easily the most dissapointing experience I've ever had in a video game.

[wraith sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/497294084348575754/1417449380864196658/a68i3f.gif?ex=68ca861b&is=68c9349b&hm=1cf6ea14d64ac5a2d20e1b80b1cec72e7032b8205c506f1d48ef3730a938a176&

[buoyant maple]

Oh Ik
I played BL3 with character volume 0% the entire time because the writing was ass

[cloud oar]

Gameplay is -not- what made borderlands good. Borderlands 2's gameplay was aggressively mid.

and I will die on that hill

[cosmic cobalt]

it's the vibes

also same for presequel

that shit suck shit to play

[cloud oar]

the gunplay in 1/2 was fucking atrocious

same with TPS

[solid pond]

I still remember I think its jack? talking about the BNK-3R

doofy boss

[cloud oar]

Handsome Jack IS Borderlands tbf

[solid pond]

and the warrior

[cloud oar]

He was kind of a double edged sword

[solid pond]

peak loot farm

[cloud oar]

because Handsome Jack put borderlands on the map but he was SO GOOD that every other BL game's villian is living in his shadow

[buoyant maple]

I remember playing BL2 with my friends and thinking to myself the gunplay is atrocious

[cloud oar]

the gunplay was terrible yeah

but what other game literally pays you to canonically kill yourself

[buoyant maple]

Permanent bloom + large hipfire spread + slow travelling projectiles + long weapon swap time + no reload cancel + all the fucking shotguns spawned with like 5x scope for some reason

[deft stump]

It just works enough to have fun. Then they reverse it for 3.

[quick crystal]

Hi. So I was wondering. If I mainly use my staff with psyker for dmg and stagger, and only use melee when need to defend, would it make sense focusing on blocking efficiency?

[cloud oar]

Honestly? I would buy a BL2 remake SO. FAST.

BL2 with BL3 Gameplay would be

https://tenor.com/view/illumination-asian-man-enlightened-oh-okay-gif-16379366

[cosmic cobalt]

pick kd

literally only thing you nerd

[zealous wing]

kinetic deflection talent

[cosmic cobalt]

it a must pick on all psyker for how cheap it is

[buoyant maple]

BL4’s gameplay is even better than BL3’s and it’s not even close

[zealous wing]

if your weapon allows it, deflector is also nice, for blocking bullets but also because it increases efficiency as well, at the cost of a different blessing

[buoyant maple]

The basic fact that u don’t need to refarm the same item across endgame levels

Huge

[pale prairie]

A lot of people do that sort of thing. You might get better results though from going Deflector blessing and Kinetic Deflection talent. If you REALLY REALLY want to you can then grab a stamina curio. (Remember it needs to be at least 410 rating or the tooltip lies and says it’s 3 stamina when it’s actually 2)

[marble crater]

With all that I can block the Emperor himself

[cosmic cobalt]

mega exaggerated but yeah kd is good

[deft stump]

IKR?

[cosmic cobalt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/477231216714579968/1417219203697741945/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-09-16_1-42-23_AM.mp4?ex=68ca587c&is=68c906fc&hm=0dbfa8d7be9e56acc5be2c26184879e39ba21560a55bb65ac55ca48782149c56&

[pale prairie]

It’s what they asked for

[marble crater]

Oh shit Karien is here

[deft stump]

Unless the story is arse still.

[deft stump]

Or save edit lvl up the weapon.

[pale prairie]

Praise the omnissiah

[buoyant maple]

Story is better than BL3, roughly on par with BL2 but the villain is not as good as HJ obv

[pale prairie]

I refuse to pay full price for a game that is so shittily optimized

[buoyant maple]

BL2 story on its own was meh, HJ carried it super hard

[deft stump]

You mean funni D&D parody DLC.

[pale prairie]

A story is only as good as its villain

[graceful arch]

Hero*

Clearly handsome jack was just trying to get rid of loathsome bandits./s

[zealous wing]

hah look what i found chilling in my to-be-sold pile

[marble crater]

Sell it

[cosmic cobalt]

100% weapon when

because this shit is fucking stupid

[zealous wing]

ye im thinking of an ammo dump instead because i need the mobility, BUT i will test this in the meantime

[cosmic cobalt]

bruh don't dump ammo

[marble crater]

Don't dump ammo...

[zealous wing]

lmao

gottem

[graceful arch]

Only on the ripper for Oggy.

[marble crater]

You never know with new players

[zealous wing]

i DO need to test tho before i run an actual match, because i am used to being quicker

[graceful arch]

You should dump finesse on dueling sword/s

[quick crystal]

I took the talent. Was wondering if it's worth on curios too tho.

[marble crater]

Ammo reduces the ammo in the clip and also reduces the ammo you pick up in the map, ammo dump is bad

[zealous wing]

whenever i switch to a space wizard build i feel so sluggish lmao

[wraith sphinx]

I used to but I don't anymore

it might have something to do with the fact all of my builds have Anticipation doe

since default psyker dodges are dog

[zealous wing]

also APPARENTLY my psyker is level 400+? i need someone with true level to tell me if the dude was lying or not because aint no way

[wraith sphinx]

just install the mod yourself

[zealous wing]

:( but

[pale prairie]

If you have KD you should be totally fine defensively. If you are still having trouble surviving probably practice melee fighting more? Pushes are very helpful. I think having KD on its own is usually enough to tank even bosses. If you really want to be super tanky though you can but the deflector blessing on your weapon.

[zealous wing]

but effort

[solid pond]

what is the actual dump on DS? I have one dumped with Cleave and figured it made sense when I looked at it

[graceful arch]

Cleave/mobility are both fine dumps imo.

[marble crater]

That sounds unlikely

[zealous wing]

it really does

[graceful arch]

You don't get much out of cleave anyways with the havoc hit mass.

[cloud oar]

okay i

very much underestimated the anti-armor potential of the greatsword