psyker-class

[marble crater]

I think southern is one of the easiest, worst ones to understand, just because it's fairly common in movies and shows

And it sounds kinda cute

[strong gulch]

I am not fine with most parts tbh and that's why I get emotive about it. If I search for smut, then that's what I want.

[pale prairie]

There are many versions of southern

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Blending is fine but make it known. Like if I want Japanese food and a place says they're a Japanese resturant but actually they're a fusion place, I'm already mad.

[ripe obsidian]

Appalachian, then

Try to fucking understand Appalachian hillfolk

[marble crater]

Not sure I want to now

[pale prairie]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xe12UvdyOv8?si=ZYsnaDWL43QQ__lf

[pale prairie]

Oooooooof. Cajun is hard too

[ripe obsidian]

https://youtu.be/03iwAY4KlIU?si=B3wRo0Ku8QrRa5jK

[pale prairie]

Appalachian hillfolk are why no foreign invader of the east coast will ever make it to the interior

[ripe obsidian]

Cajun is hard, as are some parts of the South Carolina coast

Mid-Atlantic is pretty easy. Much of New England is easy. West coast is easy afaik

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/-KXmuBqCJ-M

[ripe obsidian]

It's the isolated groups that get hard

[pale prairie]

So yeah middle of the country lmao

The west coast problem is the slang I think. Also deeply Boston would be tough probably

[marble crater]

I remember her, was a coin flip if I could understand her or not each sentence

[radiant frigate]

americans talk-speak funny sometimes

also i am not evil

[strong gulch]

The middle of the continental US is about as neutral of an American accent you get. A lot of telemarketing is there.

[marble crater]

I can understand some words without rewinding

[pale prairie]

Who are you?

[earnest cobalt]

what do you guys think? first time making a new psyker build for myself with scrier's gaze

[marble crater]

Uh oh

[ripe obsidian]

Yes-yes, talk-speak very funny.

[pale prairie]

I dunno man you get into the hills of like Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky…

[ripe obsidian]

No mettle and no perfect timing makes Homer... something something

[radiant frigate]

i'm kat and nice to meet you!

[strong gulch]

Drop WE and BM to get mettle and perfect timing.

[strong gulch]

That's not the middle. Nebraska is.

[ripe obsidian]

Nebraska is a myth

[pale prairie]

Damn your picture and title are very close to someone I do know. Hallo and wilkommen

[pale prairie]

It’s not west coast it’s not east coast

[radiant frigate]

oh yeah i get that a lot

[earnest cobalt]

I'm still getting used to psyker

[radiant frigate]

must be my evil twin

[earnest cobalt]

my second serious class after vet

so I dont know much thing

[marble crater]

Ahh, I really want to correct the spelling mistake, but I also don't want to seem rude when you write in German. What to do...

[strong gulch]

butternut region
bible belt

different than fly over country

[pale prairie]

So that makes you the super nice and kind twin?

[pale prairie]

A German not wanting to be rude

[radiant frigate]

yessir i am sweet as honey

[marble crater]

Butternut region?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-it-opposite-day-whats-going-on-the-colonel-lena-olin-gif-16537838

[earnest cobalt]

soulstealer and queitude can stay?

[pale prairie]

For hard drive space in my head that’s “middle”

[marble crater]

Germans aren't rude, we are just more blunt and fragile people misinterpret it as being rude

[pale prairie]

It’s all one color come November elections

[strong gulch]

k

[pale prairie]

Yeah don’t discriminate my brain

[pale prairie]

Both of those are good. (Quietude you can lose eventually if you want something else cause it’s okay but not amazing)

[ripe obsidian]

I like sumfin like this. Not too dissimilar from yours

[pale prairie]

I would also strongly consider grabbing the crit chance aura and losing by crack of bone

[ripe obsidian]

Quietude. >:(

Though I do use it with SG.

[pale prairie]

I don’t for the reasons you have stated

Also lets me have all the defensive talents

[marble crater]

Why Quietude slander?

[strong gulch]

Go head and play you're creation.

It's not optimized tho. Looks like you want a LMB EK build.

[pale prairie]

It’s distinctly mid

[strong gulch]

Oh good, someone is helping out.

I gotta go for a bit.

[jovial juniper]

Six doesn't like

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/saboteur-sabotage-ruiner-you-sabotaged-me-brad-garrett-gif-15073809

[jovial juniper]

That's all

[marble crater]

I don't know about "helping"

[pale prairie]

It’s okay the help only lasts long enough for them to form their own opinions

[ripe obsidian]

I think Quietude is fine on BCoB, mostly because I dunno what I would get instead. It's an extra smol amount of toughness gen in melee.

[pale prairie]

Oh I keep forgetting those interact

Still don’t like BCoB

[ripe obsidian]

I like it for pure melee SG builds

Otherwise, eh

I generally find Quietude to be lackluster, though.

[pale prairie]

Okay but it’s gotta lower average peril so less use of warp rider and one with the warp and warpsplitting

Only use is getting max stacks for SG

[dusk timber]

quietude and warp expenditure should have a better toughness/peril ratio tbh

[pale prairie]

Buff psyker

[dusk timber]

also i wish psyker had more talents that interacted with peril like this

effects that scale with the amount of peril you quell or generate

instead every other talent with an effect that scales with peril in some way is just based on your current amount

[upper sun]

bros............

tfw no patch

[pale prairie]

Bistol and thammer are perfect no need for patch

[upper sun]

tru

peak weapons

[jovial juniper]

Next week™

You can quote me on this one

[pale prairie]

Is this real or are you just coping

[jovial juniper]

The ™ implies it's a joke
coping

really fucking hard, plz send help

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pera-algorand-algo-hopium-copium-gif-16765445473855345349

[wraith sphinx]

it's gonna be next week or we feed higui to the golden throne

[ripe obsidian]

Agreed. My proposal is higher single-target damage at low peril and higher AoE/horde at high peril. Meaningful choice between what is better at any point

[pale prairie]

I never joke about incoming patch to this heavily janked game

[jovial juniper]

If that happens then 30K and the horse heresy won't be shit compared to what I'm going to do

[pale prairie]

I don’t need an excuse to sacrifice a Smyker

[wraith sphinx]

horse heresy

[pale prairie]

Just give some more interesting talents. There should be only a handful of white nodes in any tree

[ripe obsidian]

I would honestly enjoy some more supporty Psyker stuff. Problem is, the best way to support is to kill

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry mate

They added a stagger class so everything is allowed

[wraith sphinx]

all psyker abilities are support if you think about it

just stand back, take out your blitz and start killing

[jovial juniper]

And if they tell you to kill stuff

[pale prairie]

Alright time to play Smyker I guess

[jovial juniper]

Just point at the 15 thousand impact nodes on Arby's and go full whataboutism

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[pale prairie]

Utterly ridiculous

[jovial juniper]

Arby's don't have to kill shit so I don't have to kill shit

[earnest cobalt]

first time playing scrier's gaze

[jovial juniper]

It works 100% of the time

[earnest cobalt]

confused more than anything

[jovial juniper]

Guaranteed

Or your money back

[earnest cobalt]

gotta try again

[pale prairie]

But they kill everything

[wraith sphinx]

what seems to be the problem?

Scrier's gaze is like emergency overdrive from a mecha game

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pewdiepie-9year-old-army-t-gay-congratulations-for-legal-reasons-thats-a-joke-gif-13924557

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

Can't 1 shot carapace

[pale prairie]

Shotgun would like a word

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[pale prairie]

Okay so two shots

[jovial juniper]

Lmfao

Always the 2 shots

[wraith sphinx]

two shots and only with the duckbilled mark

[jovial juniper]

Like I'm not joking

But everybody goes 2 shots when defending Arby's

[wraith sphinx]

I use the full bore blessing too for good measure

[pale prairie]

Pfffffff

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-one-piece-anime-gif-4502646032764566609

[pale prairie]

There are people who defend it?

[earnest cobalt]

I didnt see tha peril buildup in the second paragraph

[jovial juniper]

All the other classes can 1 shot but like
Y'all tired of hearing me

So ug

[earnest cobalt]

I was confused by that

[jovial juniper]

Let's change the topic

[earnest cobalt]

but seems like a decent ability will play

[jovial juniper]

Back to don't need to kill stuff

[wraith sphinx]

I think all the smyker siblings should simply join forces and smite nurgle to death

[jovial juniper]

That way I can smite no EP propaganda

[wraith sphinx]

then we win darktide

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

[earnest cobalt]

sry for ping again, what is LMB EK?

[jovial juniper]

A monstrosity has 20 mass
So smite ticks once every 2 seconds without enfeeble

Nurgle probably has 100000 mass

[pale prairie]

Yeah link that all Smyker havoc run please

[earnest cobalt]

looks nice, maybe I will try this too if I get bored of vet

[jovial juniper]

This is just me calling him fat

[earnest cobalt]

[wraith sphinx]

well he is morbidly a beast

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker has a decent amount of build variation. Experiment to see what works

[earnest cobalt]

yeah, I'm even overwhelmed with play variations

will try all of them in time I hope

[strong gulch]

LMB = left mouse button (primary attack)
EK = electrokinetic staff

abbreviations in the 2nd pin

Generally SG EK is a LMB spam build.

[earnest cobalt]

[jovial juniper]

Unless you're some kind of crazy person with EK Scriers DD M2 build

[earnest cobalt]

first time learning this

[earnest cobalt]

I only spammed heavies with EK

[pale prairie]

That’s another build (my preference) but usually go left side of tree and focus on creeping flames

[earnest cobalt]

It was my main build side before trying scrier's gaze, I will try SG some and decide which one to use more

[strong gulch]

If want it or are curious, the meta EK build for RMB (right mouse button; charged; secondary attack) is in the 3rd pin.

But if you enjoy SG EK, keep the build.

[earnest cobalt]

nah either is fine

will look into it thx

[pale prairie]

SG is typically paired with crit weapons and finesse weapons. So like going a melee centered or Gun centered (EK or voidblast can fill this role)

[earnest cobalt]

looks damn good

will try

[earnest cobalt]

hm

Can I use sg for diving into frontline?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Kills help slowdown the peril build on SG

[earnest cobalt]

perfect

[jovial juniper]

And nothing better than glorious melee combat

Also like
Precognition node of sg

[pale prairie]

Oh absolutely

My current build

[jovial juniper]

Which rewards hitting weakspots under the effect of sg

The icon of sg doesn't update in real time so don't worry

[earnest cobalt]

icon?

[jovial juniper]

You're still getting the counts as 1 second

[dusk timber]

im not a fan of the idea of tying buffs to being at low peril

cause then youre incentivizing players to ignore the central mechanic of the class

[jovial juniper]

On the buff bar
SG starts counting seconds

It usually reaches 100% at around 12 seconds

[earnest cobalt]

hm

[jovial juniper]

Precog modifier makes it so weakspot kills count as 1 second more

But it doesn't really update that icon in real time

[earnest cobalt]

nice

[dusk timber]

its also more or less the same thing as what we already have

scaling buffs with the amount of peril we currently have

[jovial juniper]

I'll probably clip it later

[dusk timber]

only difference is that its inversely proportional

[earnest cobalt]

anyways this much psyker adventure is enought for me going to bed gn chat

[marble crater]

Good night

[jovial juniper]

Don't let Sefoni walk in your dreams

I mean

[dusk timber]

if you want to incentivize a psyker playstyle that isnt at high peril for almost the whole match then a much better way to implement that would be adding more talents like quietude (and also buffing quietude itself to be more worth using)

[jovial juniper]

Don't let the bugs bite you

Yeah I guess that's the saying

[wraith sphinx]

don't listen to Sefoni's theories about new darktide plot developments

that's the saying

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-40k-darktide-psyker-navigator-gif-13194515197887120273

[upper sun]

c-chat

n-night cap?

[fresh panther]

#arbites-class message

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

3rd shift starting rn

Sorry I guess

[tulip kettle]

whats with the stutter? not my chad/clad

[upper sun]

🚬 its been too long cant hard carry like kerieaearen anymore

tbh it doesnt matter game wont launch anyways

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

Fatshark just can’t stop winning

[vernal frost]

delete gpu checker thing from your dt folder

speeds up the launch time tremendously

[dusk timber]

delete your gpu

[upper sun]

ill get right on that

[vernal frost]

lowk the only two things you can do to help with game not launching

that and dn

[marble crater]

Just finished Astarion's quest, damn he really likes stabbing

[copper jay]

What are you favorites curios for havoc ? More HP or more Toughness ?

[midnight solstice]

Toughness for sure

[copper jay]

3 of them or like 2 toughess and 1 hp ?

[midnight solstice]

I just run 3 toughness on every class, it's ol' reliable

[narrow herald]

I use 2 tough 1 stam

[midnight solstice]

Stamina is also very good

[narrow herald]

Stam scales with Kinetic Deflection

[pale prairie]

It’s up to personal preference! I know someone who uses 2 toughness and 1 health cause it lets them eat a burster without dropping below wound threshold.

[marble crater]

I use 3 health in havoc

[pale prairie]

Chunky boy

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/scooch-raccoon-chubby-chonk-absolute-unit-gif-14789220

[kindred fog]

I’ve seen a lot of other psyker players use Duelling Sword as their melee- what’d be the best blessings/perks for a Psyker Dueling Sword?

[jovial juniper]

Uncanny Riposte Precognition

[narrow herald]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

It's usually Uncanny + Riposte/Precognition

Or you can say fuck it we ball
Riposte Precognition

[narrow herald]

Riposte Agile 😈

Let God decide

[kindred fog]

and perks?

I was thinking increased damage against Carapace and critical hit chance

[dusk timber]

unyielding instead of crit chance

[kindred fog]

oh and I forget

which mark has the best attack pattern? I’m too lazy to test it in meat grinder

[patent jacinth]

Mk2

It actually has a combo

Super weird for DS

[kindred fog]

thanks

[tulip kettle]

they are trolling you

its DS4 with uncanny and then your choice, agile for safety or some crit increaser for dmg

dump is cleave

then you can take cara but its not really needed with uncanny, maniac for 1 shotting muties, unyield for boss dmg

[jovial juniper]

Mobility is the proper dump

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

Cleave affects your unarmored damage

We like our damage around here

[patent jacinth]

mk2 does the same damage but has a sweep heavy

mk4 just requires zero thought to use as opposed to like 1

[modest perch]

u dont need maniac to one shot mutants thoughever

[proper osprey]

Agile isn’t that good tbh

And 2 has good clear

[zealous wing]

managed to get a nice clip with all sniper cues, so if anyone asks what they are, i present an exhibit

literally all the warning signs

[prime elk]

cue? what cue?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/exceptional-skill-lance-geiger-the-history-guy-outstanding-skill-awesome-technique-gif-18969817

[prime elk]

teammate doing some light trolling

it must be karma

for all the times i've dragged an overhead into my teammate

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-14400882110058374636

[radiant frigate]

collateral damage i'm afraid

[wraith sphinx]

They are quickscoping now

[copper jay]

You dont like Toughness ?

[copper jay]

Do you have specifics mods for Psyker ?

[long saddle]

I got warp unbound and shield timer mods

[ripe obsidian]

I am at a thing and I am excited about it

Therefore you must know about it

[zealous wing]

i myself gave in to mods.... by which i mean one.

i can now shout no when people wake a DH

[ripe obsidian]

Good.

[zealous wing]

its amusing

my guy sounds so panicked/angry

perfect

[ripe obsidian]

Is waking DHs common for you?

[zealous wing]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

It happens rather rarely in my games

Except when I am playing club Ogryn on Auric. Then I do it intentionally so I can solo it.

[zealous wing]

luckily its usually when im on a gunker, if im extra lucky on my SG gunker, so i can actually 99% the time kill it before it takes them

[ripe obsidian]

I don't play Gunker often

So I am less effective

[zealous wing]

tbh i put the FGS on i think all of my builds, so i can technically still kill them at an ok pace regardless of if my ranged can handle her or not, but the other person HAS to block, and they dont always

[wraith sphinx]

It's crazy, gunker is so rare I only know the SG activation voicelines for the Savant personality because thats what I play

What do the seer and loner say when they pop SG? I have no idea

[zealous wing]

i play loner, so i can share if you like

[wraith sphinx]

Sure

[zealous wing]

YOURE ALL GOING TO DIE! ISNT THAT NICE?

YOU SHOULD BE RUNNING, CRETINS!

[ripe obsidian]

Seer: My Beloved says you've been very bad!

[zealous wing]

Yes, let the warp flow!

[ripe obsidian]

Or maniacal laughter

[wraith sphinx]

Ok that one is hard

[ripe obsidian]

Or, "It's time to hurt people!"

[wraith sphinx]

Best beloved line

[zealous wing]

the laughter honestly from seer is the fucking greatest

[deft stump]

Funny part, I don't remember SG lines cos I used it twice. XD Got that penance done on second try.

[ripe obsidian]

Seer ones vacillate between sadistic and innocent

[zealous wing]

the laugh from seer is how my spouse laughed when he launched me across a room with a flamer explosion

[wraith sphinx]

As expected.

[ripe obsidian]

I think my favorite Seer combat line is with Assail

"These heretics can't catch things very well at all!"

[zealous wing]

idk if i have a favourite loner line, they're pretty much all gold

[ripe obsidian]

I love Seer's threats to f loose cannon

[zealous wing]

loner calling out arby for having daddy issues is gold

[ripe obsidian]

"No Beloved, she isn't trying very hard, is she?"

[zealous wing]

lol

"let me give you some advice. if melk offers you a little snack from under his desk? refuse."

[ripe obsidian]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sYHX0uJDSik&t=297s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sYHX0uJDSik&t=493s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sYHX0uJDSik&t=136s

Etc.

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-elden-ring-let-me-solo-her-dark-souls-gif-25572756

[ripe obsidian]

Sure, let's pretend I succeed through grace and skill, and not spamming LMB on a stupid build

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/letmesolothis-gif-26623781

lore accurate?

[wraith sphinx]

you say that like the ogryn's brutal simplicity is something to be ashamed of

[radiant frigate]

"I'm suddenly feeling very powerful!"

[wraith sphinx]

that's adorkable

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, this seems more accurate to Ogryn

[ripe obsidian]

Seer is best Psyker. I will not take questions.

[marble crater]

For havoc I figure I already have so little toughness, the bonus from curios won't matter and I will go all in on health. It's also still from the first havoc where we had corruption on the ground every other mission and I haven't touched them since

[copper jay]

Thanks ! I'll try some runs full toughess and others ones with full HP and i'll tell you what I prefer

[marble crater]

@radiant frigate you didn't tell me that the end to Astarion's quest would be so graphic

[radiant frigate]

let me guess

fought cazador

didn't free him

[zealous wing]

well this is new

had a zealot in chat beg for us to kill slower because he wasnt getting any

lmao

[marble crater]

I || killed cazador (obviously), let all the other spawn go and the prisoners as well. No ascension for anyone. Astarion stabbed Cazador like 2000000 times ||

[zealous wing]

i do agree to an extent. definitely not for my playstyle but loner fits my vibe better for constantly listening to. seer is best saved as a treat, yknow? keep it the best

[marble crater]

This is why they rush ahead

[zealous wing]

lmao

no way this one wasnt a kid

[radiant frigate]

that's not a scene i've ever seen tbh

[ripe obsidian]

Reminder that this exists:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander_II:_The_Quickening

[radiant frigate]

for me ||it was the first time seeing cazador and i brought him to the fight, he got yoinked away and i thought "oh ok so you're supposed to intercept the beams and turns his power against him, solid design" but then after a few turns he just exploded all his spawn and ascended (things got very bad very quickly at this point)||

[marble crater]

[wraith sphinx]

I cheesed the cazador fight lol

[radiant frigate]

(it was also honor mode)

[marble crater]

Oh no

[ripe obsidian]

The Honorable Kat

[radiant frigate]

and then we were three, and shadowheart was having a very rough time trying to get up

but luckily karlach was an absolute champion and carried the day

(tigerthief my beloved)

[marble crater]

If he doesn't explode his spawn, you get to see a lot of vampire boobs

[ripe obsidian]

Is this a good thing?

[radiant frigate]

if he explodes his spawn, he does 7d10 necrotic on every hit

(this is not good)

[marble crater]

All boobs are a good thing, so yea

[radiant frigate]

imagine fireball, which he likes to cast, but with 7d10 on top

[dusk timber]

I like loner cause it gave me a really funny out of context phrase

[ripe obsidian]

7d10 is just a casual 38.5 extra damage. Easy peasy.

[dusk timber]

"Divorce (my psyker's name) has a german accent"

[marble crater]

Not great, my Cazador didn't really do anything, I knocked him prone all the time, poor guy

He deserved it for being mean to my boy

[radiant frigate]

which is concerning if your characters aren't exactly north of 100

[ripe obsidian]

I never got to Cazador. Ended up burning out halfway through act 3

[radiant frigate]

honor mode caz has a nasty legendary action

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe you should have given them more HP. You miser.

[radiant frigate]

if you approach him he blasts you with a swarm of bats (and yes this does necrotic damage too)

[ripe obsidian]

Hoarding all the HP for yourself

[marble crater]

My sorcerer doesn't even have 80 HP I think

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-jojo-youre-approaching-me-jojos-bizarre-adventure-gif-14705619

(also a vampire)

[ripe obsidian]

Does Ancients Paladin exist in BG3? And is the Aura as busted as it is in 5e?

[radiant frigate]

it does yes

[ripe obsidian]

Silly.

[marble crater]

"You and any nearby allies take only half the damage from spells. "

Is it as busted as 5e?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

Half damage from spells, no save required.

Absolutely absurd.

[radiant frigate]

after a very rough fight we got him in this situation

[ripe obsidian]

I had a DM let me play a Yuan-Ti Halfblood Ancients Paladin/some kind of sorcerer multiclass. Actually ruined several encounters because I ignored magic and blew up mages

[marble crater]

Karlach and the Shadowheart twins

[ripe obsidian]

Kick him.

[radiant frigate]

i would but he can fly back up

being a vampire and all

[ripe obsidian]

Cut off his limbs and dangle him from a meathook

[dusk timber]

Kick him again

[dusk timber]

Bro thinks this is dbd

[ripe obsidian]

Can vampires regenerate limbs?

[marble crater]

Eldritch Blast him

[ripe obsidian]

Also cut out his tongue so he can't cast spells

[dusk timber]

Speaking of blasting

Ngl

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe gouge out his eyes. Keep his ears.

[radiant frigate]

perhaps but none of us are warlocks

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/to-the-pain-princess-bride-pain-death-gif-1482922484517876345

[dusk timber]

I think it would be peak if assail let us shotgun blast all 10 shards at once

[marble crater]

Sad, my sorcerer was originally a Warlock, but since I picked Durge I missed a certain robe and turned into a sorcerer

[ripe obsidian]

"'To the pain' means that the first thing you lose will be your feet below the ankles. Then your hands at the wrists, next your nose... The next thing you lose will be your left eye, followed by your right. [...] Your ears you keep, and I'll tell you why: so that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish; every babe that weeps at your approach; every woman who cries out, 'Dear God! What is that thing?' will echo in your perfect ears. That is what 'to the pain' means; it means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery, forever."

[marble crater]

Sounds excessive

[upper sun]

@kereienorwhatever her name is @plucky flax i made a major discovery
https://www.peppersofkeywest.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Mad-Dog-Ghost-Extract.jpg
putting a few drops of pepper extract into soy sauce makes it taste amazing and not even that hot

[dusk timber]

But it would be peak

[plucky flax]

Just put regular chilli bro

[upper sun]

no

i originally did it because i thought a roommate was stealing my soy sauce

but damn theyre gonna steal it more now

[dusk timber]

Btw what legion is your name referring to

[upper sun]

the book by dan abnett

[plucky flax]

Gay

[upper sun]

its a very SHIT book

very bad

[plucky flax]

He hates gays

[marble crater]

I thought you mean the one from Mass Effect

[dusk timber]

I thought it was the one from new vegas

[radiant frigate]

i gave him a good stabbin' and then threw his body into the abyss

does that count

[upper sun]

also valid

but mainly i hate the book 😠

[marble crater]

Yes, he didn't even have a cool song like Raphael

[dusk timber]

Teenage mutant ninja turtles mention

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/bg3-baldurs-gate-bg3-devil-bg3-raphael-bg3-raphael-hot-gif-600509499813850036

[radiant frigate]

have you been to the house of grief

[marble crater]

Not yet, maybe today. Need to visit a forge of some watchers first

[radiant frigate]

also i understand that

i had a similar experience with kingmaker

severe case of restartitis

and the one time i pulled through was because i said "fuck it, we go elf barbarian"

(and then found the sword of khaine midway through)

[marble crater]

I read a good reason for why people burn out in Act 3, it's all the NPC chatter in the city at every corner, sometimes 5 different conversations at the same time

[radiant frigate]

it's also because up until then you had direction and drive

something immediate

until you get there, your goal was just "get to the city"

and when you get there, then what?

[marble crater]

Yeah and in the city "here are ALL the quests at once"

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-bags-floating-stuck-now-what-gif-5473087

[marble crater]

I love that act 3 is longer than act 2, would also love not all quests at once.
But I guess that might be better in later runs, after I am familiar with act 3

[radiant frigate]

perhaps

i still have never assembled the clown

however, there was that one time tara called the cops on me

(and the one time a kid kept calling the cops on me outside of combat so i had to knock him out)

unlimited flaming fist supply

[wraith sphinx]

I didn't like act 3 that much

it's a slog that will kill you repeatedly unless you were thorough with side quests in acts 1 and 2

[radiant frigate]

elaborate

(i am always thorough but still)

do you mean in terms of gear or levels or something else

[wraith sphinx]

mainly the levels yeah

and if you make a mistake it's the easiest act to get into a fight you can't win

(if you aren't well leveled or geared)

[radiant frigate]

idk i feel like from 8 or so onwards you can take on just about anything

[radiant frigate]

running is usually an option

[wraith sphinx]

not if you don't get to act first and you get flattened

but still, act 3 has all of my favourite side content of the game

[radiant frigate]

yeah RIP

[wraith sphinx]

that being ||raiding the underwater prison and slaying Raphael||

😈

[radiant frigate]

the former i almost never do because ||i shank gortash on sight||

[wraith sphinx]

I did so once but didn't really feel that cool

there's always gore of my tash by the end of the game though

[marble crater]

I haven't, yet. Found a decent amount of parts already, I think

[radiant frigate]

yeah but making gore of tash at his coronation without being seen and while making it look like the cult of bhaal did it feels great

[wraith sphinx]

I had to abandon my very first BG3 attempt however because I think I was like level 7 or something at act 3 and couldn't do anything

[marble crater]

You skipped A LOT on content, damn

[radiant frigate]

you got past ketheric at 7, nothing will stop you now

[wraith sphinx]

no I didn't, the savescumming did

[radiant frigate]

oh yeah i forget that's a thing

[obtuse dome]

Dude heroic mode broke me and my friends

Trying to get that damn achievment

[wraith sphinx]

I tried doing some side missions but those felt even harder than the ketheric fight

[radiant frigate]

honor mode is my favorite

[obtuse dome]

Allways some dumb shit happening

[wraith sphinx]

serves me right for ignoring the underleveled warnings twice

[obtuse dome]

Or is it honor lode

With 1 save file

[radiant frigate]

only failed once and you would never guess to what

[wraith sphinx]

your entire party got wiped by that underdark critter that unburrowed and launched you all into the abyss

[radiant frigate]

no but it was in the underdark

[marble crater]

Hunger of Hadar

[radiant frigate]

||selûnite artillery because i forgot to toggle party sneak||

[wraith sphinx]

NOOOOOOO

[radiant frigate]

it wasn't even in combat

[marble crater]

kek

[wraith sphinx]

oh that's horrible lmao

[radiant frigate]

imagine how dumb i felt after that

anyway I'm crushing that crystal on sight now

[marble crater]

Are those the two big crystals that shoot the minotaur?

[wraith sphinx]

yeah

[marble crater]

Didn't know you can sneak, I had to go the long way around and jump down the side of the building or something

[wraith sphinx]

me neither but I just didn't want to risk them

[marble crater]

I did risk them, I thought "They will only attack things that want to enter, if I run OUT, I will be fine" I wasn't fine and had to reload

[radiant frigate]

near-death experiences and miraculous saves are what truly makes honor mode though

oh and tragedy

[wraith sphinx]

I've had my fill with BG3 long before honor mode was even added to the game

my final attempt was playing as palabard shart on highest difficulty and I got bored quarter of a way through because the build was so OP it removed all challenge from the game

[radiant frigate]

i got minthara killed in the dumbest way possible

[ornate hamlet]

What is honor mode?

[wraith sphinx]

iron man basically

[radiant frigate]

had karlach smash a scrying eye in one of the side rooms, didn't see that the door was open, and the entire throne room entered combat

[marble crater]

How dare you hurt my future wife

[radiant frigate]

poor minthara was surrounded by enemy paladins that can and will smite on every strike

[wraith sphinx]

8 fucking crushers.mp4

[radiant frigate]

and was not yet recruited into the party

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/jocat-smite-paladin-gif-24978604

[wraith sphinx]

oh no

[radiant frigate]

so zero chance of recovery

[wraith sphinx]

my condolences

[dusk timber]

Divine SMITE

[radiant frigate]

and halsin stayed in the shadowlands with depression because i forgot his questline

[wraith sphinx]

that happened to me too on my first run lol

[marble crater]

Good, I don't really care much about Halsin to be honest

[wraith sphinx]

he is the only cool person in the druid's grove

a location I wouldn't mind skipping if I didn't really need the xp and resources from there

[marble crater]

When I was in the grove, he was like the 5th coolest person there

[wraith sphinx]

fighting the goblin siege of the grove was very cool though

act 1 also has Lump's war horn that I'd blow during every fight from that point onwards because it goes so hard

[ripe obsidian]

I suppose it must suffice

[zealous wing]

now same bro was begging us to go faster

[ripe obsidian]

The completionist drive is a double-edged sword

[zealous wing]

look at this

same kid

[lunar marsh]

probably retarted

[wraith sphinx]

not probably but definitely

[zealous wing]

didnt block him the first time because, benefit of the doubt, maybe a child who just doesnt know how to play, and did stop begging the first time after i told him to practise. this time though, nah i dont need that shit. probably gonna end up a shroudfield aggrodumper anyway, and since he literally would not do ANY of the tasks, not the teammate i ever want.

was half tempted to send a squad request and, if for some fucking reason he accepted, i dump him in an auric maelstrom

[lunar marsh]

would have let him be killed and not free him for the entire game

[zealous wing]

oh easily

[icy breach]

I would just record

[zealous wing]

all of the above

but, not how i wanna spend my time

im chilling down in malice for a reason, just way too tired but cant sleep :p

[wraith sphinx]

the casual difficulties have the most toxic players and it's sad

[zealous wing]

there was another psyker there literally crouchwalking it was fucking hilarious

[wraith sphinx]

I remember playing my still new psyker char on rolling steel on heresy, people flamed me with "ew gun psyker go back to malice" lol

[marble crater]

That's why Hexis is playing there too

[zealous wing]

:(

i retaliate i dont start

its also usually very chill

[urban creek]

Ngl that dude needs a good brain rewire from sefoni

[wraith sphinx]

before the difficulty overhaul auric heresy was a notorious dump for toxic players

[icy breach]

And also a pointless difficulty cause anyone with any sense would go into auric damnation

[wraith sphinx]

yes, pretty much

I guess it was appealing to people de-rusting after a longer break from darktide? We'll never know

[zealous wing]

the guard that says "things havent been the same since zola went after the karnak twins" always gives me skyrim guard NPC vibes

[jovial juniper]

This is loife

Nuthin be'ah

[wraith sphinx]

Rannick's got a bit of a mood on him again.

[sterile vale]

What do ya reckon about that Moebian Steel business?

[marble crater]

Moebian Steel is like Champagne

If it's not from the right area it's just sparkling steel

[zinc phoenix]

The twins release was the first big shakeup content wise

Before that it was reheats of the existing mission formats with different layouts

[zealous wing]

tbh it still kinda is, except for that

[marble crater]

Twins randomly ambushing you during missions, good times

[zealous wing]

twin fight, rollingsteel, and possibly ascension riser but thats stretching it

[dusk timber]

Orthus offensive is still my favorite mission in the game so far

[zealous wing]

it clearly was actually loved during creation

[oak echo]

I vividly remember getting sniped across the street behind pox bomber gas

And the first thing that came to mind was

"That's a weird sniper shot"

"Looked like plasma"

[dusk timber]

^Clueless

[oak echo]

Eeeeh, I survived the encounter

Though we were down to 2 because no one knew how to deal with Rinda and her brother's gas mines

[quartz barn]

Getting randal or whatever the guy is called on AM was a near guaranteed wipe

[zealous wing]

rodin, on what?

auric mael?

[quartz barn]

Ye

[dusk timber]

Rodin is mines and plasma gun, Rinda is sword

[quartz barn]

This was during the teaser period when the director was still broken

So it often took so long to kill him everyone died to the mines zzz

[dusk timber]

Whenever i queue to a game and end up on an orthus match my reaction is always

[zealous wing]

it varies for me

usually its

if im on the wrong build for it tho (like ek, meaning no dualing for me), its

[dusk timber]

We win those

[zealous wing]

oh yeah

but its less fun if im not zooming around the arena like a zealot

[dusk timber]

I also remember one time i ended up in an orthus match with a lvl4 vet

And everyone else in the team was like 10+ levels above me

And i was the only person who didnt get downed a single time in the boss battle at the end

Thank the emperor for the dc parry that shit carried me

[zealous wing]

that it do

it might not be strong but it makes you damn near invincible

[quartz barn]

Honestly the only thing that really kills you in that section is getting eaten + inept teammates

[dusk timber]

I just really like orthus offensive as a whole

The build up to the big fight at the end is amazing

[zinc phoenix]

empower is fun

[dusk timber]

Honestly i have no idea how fatshark could possibly surpass that mission

[zinc phoenix]

I wish havoc teams could handle not having bubble

[zinc phoenix]

Is that the twin fight?

[dusk timber]

Yes

[zinc phoenix]

I usually do the bell skip

[dusk timber]

Bell skip?

[zealous wing]

yeah theres a bell everyone on the team hits to skip to the medicae station / elevator down, but you dont get the dia/plas

or ammo/grenades i think

[dusk timber]

The materials are nice

How much does it skip?

[zealous wing]

from drop in to the elevator room

so, all of it

[dusk timber]

Buh

Not for me then

[zealous wing]

nah

[dusk timber]

The build up throughout the mision is also a big part of why i like orthus so skipping straight to the fight at the end doesnt sound very appealing to me

[zealous wing]

not for me either. someone tried to drag me through a few hours of that to go in and die to gain xp to level up my 2nd psyker. first run through doing that and i was already done with it. they died immediately and i was like lvl 12, but i did survive a decent time before i just gave up because peer pressure

this was auric btw

they didnt tell me its what they were doing until we were entering the fight

i was fully ready to try at lvl 12 xD

[zealous wing]

huh speaking of

o.o

ek build

[tulip kettle]

is ez you got this

[zealous wing]

bodes well

[tulip kettle]

hard part about the twins fight used to be the obscene mauler spam and not stepping in turds

these days we're all good at the game so armour isnt scary

[deft stump]

300 ping making dodging Rodin near impossible.

You have to dodge before the warning or you just 0 toughness and ded.

[tulip kettle]

he was just showing you the true commisar cosplay

YOU WILL SERVE ON THE BATTLEFIELD OR SERVE IN THE FIRING LINE

[marble crater]

Karien, you are the only person with the 300 ping problem

[tulip kettle]

BLAM

[jovial juniper]

Probs because karien is the only one on 300

Everyone is 200 or less

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[marble crater]

Yes

[zealous wing]

3 zealots now. m,aybe be fine

[wraith sphinx]

after some more soul searching trying to make my vet build fun I have decided I actually want to play zealot instead

[zealous wing]

nvm ones rushing ahead he gon die

[tulip kettle]

use that extra wound you got to dunk on em homie

[wraith sphinx]

sure it has basically only one build but holy fuck the relic blade is a vibe

[tulip kettle]

relic blade do be cool

but its just not MK6 FGS

so how can i shout "FOR THE GRAIL" in my head when i bonk stuff

[zinc phoenix]

Helbore vet nade spam is funny

And infinity ammo

[wraith sphinx]

yeah but it doesn't hit the same as big sword

[zinc phoenix]

Little sword

[deft stump]

I mean, is price of not SEA, JP or HK.

[wraith sphinx]

fotf dash and swinging the activated relic blade around

real knight in shining armor shit

[tulip kettle]

yeah but the movesets be kinda doodoo

[wraith sphinx]

snorting crack on the daily so you're your own horse as well

[zinc phoenix]

Zel doesn’t wear armor tho, they are powered by reee alone

[tulip kettle]

erm, its called faith, you should try having some

[wraith sphinx]

true!

[loud girder]

relic blade movesets goatd

[tulip kettle]

weapon is cool, move sets let them down

[loud girder]

mk10 is on the simpler side but still fun
mk2 has da wombo combos

[wraith sphinx]

ye I use mk10

[deft stump]

Or panic.

[tulip kettle]

i have to actually use my brain and pay attention to what attack is comign out to know what i need to input next

[quartz barn]

Fgs stab >>>> relic blade stab

[tulip kettle]

thats not very zealot

using brain in fight?

[loud girder]

just use mk10 then

[tulip kettle]

miss me with that.

[loud girder]

spam them lights

[tulip kettle]

nah its balls

because of the stab on L3

[loud girder]

the stab is good for the elite sticking out

some people also avoid the stab by just doing heavy chain

light light heavy heavy

[zinc phoenix]

Which is good?

[loud girder]

even the most fanatical zeooolets can do this!

[tulip kettle]

oh, so youre saying, i need to pay attention to which atack is on and whats coming next?

[zinc phoenix]

I like having weapons that offer high performance for using the brain

[tulip kettle]

like i just said

its not the zealot thing to use brain

[loud girder]

yeah but its like 2 inputs

[zinc phoenix]

Easy to use weapons should offer lower performance but be convenient

[quartz barn]

Neither is gunker

[tulip kettle]

sure i can do it and its fun on other weapons but with zealot i am supposed to go "DIE HERETICS" and smash them

[quartz barn]

Youre just so strong you can go unga bunga and win

[tulip kettle]

not perform math

[loud girder]

idk man if mk10 is complex then idk what's a simple weapon in this game

[quartz barn]

Heavy sword

[tulip kettle]

DS

FGS

FS (not obscuras)

[quartz barn]

1 heavy = no more mutant wave

[tulip kettle]

knife

[loud girder]

ds is the opposite of unga bunga

so is knife

[tulip kettle]

lol what

[loud girder]

relic blade is a real man's weapon!

[loud girder]

tiny ahh blades

[tulip kettle]

i spam the same input

[loud girder]

fit for a servitor

[tulip kettle]

thats all it is

[loud girder]

vs BEEEEG blade

[tulip kettle]

so hear me out

FGS

[loud girder]

trooo fgs is good

[tulip kettle]

and i also dont have to juggle with "waaah the blade is too hot for my fingies"

[wraith sphinx]

yeah if things are looking bad just press F and win

[loud girder]

i love the heat management

[tulip kettle]

no, its garbaggio

[loud girder]

keeps me away from zealoting too much!

very harmful

[tulip kettle]

make me take blessings so i can be activated longer in fights

miss good dmg and cleave blessings

[radiant frigate]

relic blade is peak

[tulip kettle]

its like, make it passively have the equivalent of BCoB

[zealous wing]

ez

[tulip kettle]

weakspot kills quell more heat

[wraith sphinx]

I like the heat system, I wish that was how all power weapons were like

[tulip kettle]

and then its awesome

[loud girder]

some people use overload and heatsink combo exactly for that purpose

[tulip kettle]

yeah thats what im saying

im one of them

because having the blade active is the biggest boost you can give it, and without those blessings it overheats in 5 seconds

[zinc phoenix]

👆

[loud girder]

i'd say it lasts a decent amount while active

[tulip kettle]

when its not active it feels like a noodle

lol

[loud girder]

when its inactive its ok vs trash at least

unlike power sword

which is literally a noothpick

[tulip kettle]

in havoc, it wont see you through the first fifth of a wave

[zinc phoenix]

My only complaint about relic blade is it should explode if you leave it on too long but also performance should improve the hotter it gets

[loud girder]

common havoc L

[wraith sphinx]

I use inactive vs trash, active vs everything else

[tulip kettle]

and then its just sat there being too hot for ages

[zinc phoenix]

So you should have a strong incentive to risk death for awesome performance because that’s hilarious

[loud girder]

sounds like a fun blessing idea

[tulip kettle]

its like the moonfire bow mechanic - trash garbo

[icy breach]

Nah you just pepega

[loud girder]

its like get hot! for plasma

[wraith sphinx]

I mean two blessings for the RB kinda do that lol

no danger to the user tho

[tulip kettle]

i have to fucking turn it off before it reaches max

or else it will lock me out

stupid

[zinc phoenix]

Which sucks, weapons that can kill you are always great fun

[loud girder]

i dont remember a blessing that increases dmg the longer u turn it on

[zinc phoenix]

Half the fun of psyker is riding the rhydo 😂

[icy breach]

Yeah; this ain’t a mayo jar clicker

[tulip kettle]

there isnt, its for increased heat which is kinda the same

[loud girder]

i thought i'd hate this but its a cool mechanic cause u have blocking frames while doing it and it looks cool

[tulip kettle]

but, again, it needs to quell heat on kills, killing armoured enemies quells more heat, weakspots quell more heat

[icy breach]

The ‚Thinking Man’ weapons are ngh 👌

[tulip kettle]

then it would be awesome

[jovial juniper]

Ok this is mad funny

[tulip kettle]

as it is, the mauler/crusher blob comes, i start going zealot blender mode, and then you realise the first 10 are dead, you are overheating, and now the next 30 are surrounding you

[icy breach]

Stop putting yourself into the equasion of a class
You make it look bad

[tulip kettle]

bad times ensue

[jovial juniper]

The blade builds 3.4% heat per second and per swing
So overheating in 5 seconds implies that you're a lawnmower with insane attack speed

[icy breach]

Only paying attention to ammo i guess; it do be very braindead at times can confirm

[tulip kettle]

yeah i mianly play it with martyrdom tbh, +40% att speed is no joke

[loud girder]

exhil opened my eyes to the fact that it builds up heat per swing and its more optimal to actually use heavies

before that i was just lgiht spamming everything

[tulip kettle]

and sure 5 secs is a slight exageration but not by much

[icy breach]

It can kill them in 1 wave?!

[loud girder]

heavy sword can 1 tap mutie ye

if u hit the head

[jovial juniper]

And like Deathblow

It they line up

Boom 4 gone

[radiant frigate]

imagine if fgs was like this

[tulip kettle]

i would be very unhappy.

[radiant frigate]

back to delusionposting (activate big chopper mode and build peril on every swing)

[tulip kettle]

warp slash is fucking cool

[icy breach]

No cleave

[tulip kettle]

just make it work with the currently useless blessings

[jovial juniper]

Martyrdom goated bestest keystone (2025) (not click bait)

[tulip kettle]

guaranteed crit + crits apply blazing

you got yourself a stew going

IF IT WORKED

[zinc phoenix]

Have you considered that maybe it isn’t a good idea to do suicide dives?

[tulip kettle]

unironically for relic blade i think it is

[tulip kettle]

HELLO? am i playing zealot or what?

[icy breach]

Cause you don’t micromanage
L’s create themselves

[jovial juniper]

RB one of the few weapons with more blessing diversity

[radiant frigate]

fortheemprah

[jovial juniper]

(we don't talk about DevaStrike)

[icy breach]

If they are powerful that is

[radiant frigate]

dewhat strike

[jovial juniper]

Devastating Strike

[radiant frigate]

plus it's funny when you explode

[tulip kettle]

also im playing FoTF + martyrdom + UTD + rev if im playing relic blade

[jovial juniper]

Aka infinite_cleave_on_crit

Aka 80% cleave on critical strike

💀

It gets mogged by everything

[radiant frigate]

so which is it

[icy breach]

Ikr; mah boi is delulu

[tulip kettle]

ofc im gonna suicide dive

[jovial juniper]

80%

You see

[tulip kettle]

infinity is actually 80

[jovial juniper]

Some of the blessings have internal names from launch

[radiant frigate]

c'est garbáge

[tulip kettle]

there are no numbers above 80

[jovial juniper]

But they got their effects changed

Like Brutal Momentum used to be infinite cleave on weakspot kills

[loud girder]

marty RB is so funny cause u swing that giant ass slab of metal around like its a knife

[radiant frigate]

true actually, as anyone who has ever looked at weapon stats could tell you

[wraith sphinx]

I like the fgs special though 😺

[jovial juniper]

And the internal name is infinite_cleave_on_weakspot

But the effect got reworked in the past

[dusk timber]

Anime swordsman ahh build

[tulip kettle]

is there another way to play it?

like seriously

[icy breach]

You are playing yourself

[radiant frigate]

what if we had both

[tulip kettle]

IJ just sucks

[loud girder]

wish i had better movement to play marty without it feeling way more risky than the rest

[radiant frigate]

i thought IJ was The Build

[tulip kettle]

IJ is doodoo

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-super-truth-nova-truth-meme-gif-16889273424352737553

[loud girder]

blazing piety stalwart build
tanky and u crit often to recharge fotf and gain constant attack speed and 100% crits

RB works with all keystones tbh

[tulip kettle]

right but

you are attacking so slowly then

and you can always crit with FoTF even without piety

[zinc phoenix]

Yes absolutely

[loud girder]

fotf gets recharged so fast so the attack speed is solid

[tulip kettle]

but you miss out on 40% att speed and a bajillion TDR

[radiant frigate]

do not underestimate how much fotf uptime the cdr gets you

[icy breach]

The entire toughness system should have been changed fir current martydom to not feel too risky
V2 did it best

[dusk timber]

You also dont need to waste curios on wounds

[tulip kettle]

you can get that without taking piety

lol "waste curio"

[jovial juniper]

IJ is for better dodges

Mainly

[tulip kettle]

i take 2 wound 1 hp and have 300 hp

[icy breach]

Long expired; its mediocre at best

[wraith sphinx]

Let's not be too greedy now sibling

[tulip kettle]

those 2 wound curios just say "get 8% attack speed, 16% base dmg and 13% TDR"

[icy breach]

And die in 2 melee hits regardless of it

For a melee centered class

[dusk timber]

You sure its base damage?

[tulip kettle]

well its on melee only

but yes

so generally you have 6 wounds and 300 hp, with unholy rev proccing every 2 mins its actually very safe

and you get that sweet, sweet attack speed and dmg buffs

i like it

[dusk timber]

Just melee damage it seems

No base damage

[tulip kettle]

i just said that

[jovial juniper]

Just don't get hit

[loud girder]

marty is good i just have an issue with the way the game does it

chip dmg sucks ass

[icy breach]

Now bring that to havoc (don’t; you’ll die to shooters cause your base toughness is non existent )

[dusk timber]

300 max hp

[tulip kettle]

yes

[dusk timber]

If youre at 300hp then you arent getting the buffs from martyrdom

[tulip kettle]

no, thats not the point

the point is you are playing with 75 hp every 2 mins

and have insane TDR

so literally dont get chipped every 2 seconds and you will be fine

[loud girder]

cica explained to me how it works in vt2 and its so much better

[tulip kettle]

yeah per missing hp is better

but also temp hp is a thing in that game

[upper sun]

🚬

[tulip kettle]

so its actually just broken

[icy breach]

If he has 6 wounds with 300 hp then each wound will be 60hp; ofc you don’t get 6 marydom stacks; you get 5 cause even 1 hp counts for not having a wound active

[upper sun]

@tulip kettle@loud girder

[tulip kettle]

the other thing

by making it wounds and not hp

it encourages you not to use healing

[dusk timber]

I havent played vt2 in a long time but we also didnt have a toughness bar or something similar in that game right?

[tulip kettle]

no but that doesnt matter

[upper sun]

i dont have room on my image please stop

[dusk timber]

I mean on both cases that would be the same no?

[tulip kettle]

because you arent getting chipped by shooters the same

no

if its per missing hp

[jovial juniper]

I knew Clad would post that image

[tulip kettle]

i can hoard a med stim and use it if im scared

[icy breach]

So
5 x 4% = 20% att spd
5 x 6,5% = 32,5% tdr
5 x 8% = 40% melee dmg
Thats what you get…

[tulip kettle]

with wounds thats just a waste of time

[dusk timber]

Oh right

Cause heal stims get worse the more wounds you have

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[icy breach]

Which is bad cause dead teammates are of no use

[tulip kettle]

but yeah temp HP makes zealot in VT2 just busted

[dusk timber]

I mean even if it did work with missing hp instead of wounds it would still disincentivize healing

[tulip kettle]

yeah sure but not in the same way

[dusk timber]

Cause when you get healed you get your hp back and lose buffs

[tulip kettle]

and it also just means theres no incentive to not take toughness if its missing hp

which makes you too strong

(karien dont @ me abaout stamina)

[jovial juniper]

So you're telling me if it was HP based I'd lose way more buffs because wounds make stimm worse

Another martyrdom wounds w

[icy breach]

Until they change how marty works in dt (cause they won’t change the entire toughness system) its gonna be a meme at best with inconsistent & risky aplication

Should atleast affect ALL dmg not just melee like in v2

Then it would be worth it

[jovial juniper]

Martyrdom on the current The Build™ is not even risky

[tulip kettle]

it is indeed not

[wraith sphinx]

martyrdom zealots are a liability

[icy breach]

Marty with book is peak pepega moment; trying to make offensive support build makes you dogshit at both fronts

[dusk timber]

Also martyrdom and until death not being on the same path is baffling

[wraith sphinx]

every other kind of character and class wants to heal whenever possible except marty zealot

[tulip kettle]

its not risky, and with the normal build with UTD + rev + 2 wounds and 1 hp curio you are pretty tanky and consistently play with either 4 or 5 stacks of martyrdom

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rowley-gif-7655180613478180811

[tulip kettle]

with about 75% of the time spent at 5 stacks

[icy breach]

I guess everything works in auric these days

[tulip kettle]

the risk for me always comes when i get myself into a situation where i would die on any class

because i have become too blood drunk

[jovial juniper]

Everything works at every difficulty if you have the skills

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/pregnant-man-react-dont-dm-me-were-done-discord-react-dont-pregnant-man-react-me-gif-15172637796834483807

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[wraith sphinx]

"Don't heal me bro I'm zealot! Don't heal me!! Why did you place down the medkit!!!"

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/874125680420470814/1318201690595528734/caption.gif

[jovial juniper]

It's why people play dogshit taxe

They simply have the skills to make it work

[wraith sphinx]

besides the only good martyrdom build is on psyker

[icy breach]

Its always funny to heal a marty zealot

Its like trying to vaccinate a toddler and it tries to run away & cry

[wraith sphinx]

loooool

[jovial juniper]

Definitely what my dog used to do

[icy breach]

Poor dogo

[wraith sphinx]

the worst types are that waste everyone's time by intentionally not killing anything just to get damage

[icy breach]

Or they just find a red barrel early and have a fire bath

[dusk timber]

its also weird how marty doesnt really do much at all for ranged when middle path seems to be the one trying the most to be the "gun zealot" path

[zealous wing]

my favourite game is, "martyr zealot or doesn't-know-what-martyrdom-is zealot"

[jovial juniper]

It's also ironic that for a good gun zealot build you don't take Emps Bullet nor Sainted Gunslinger

[icy breach]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/11996258486112843897/70C4A6D088C5DC18845AC4628218CFA0F2509028/

[dusk timber]

zealot tree's paths are just a jumbled incoherent and indistinct-

NEWS

[icy breach]

marty zel POV

[pale prairie]

Whoa look at this chad over here with the bistol and thammer

Clad would be proud

[icy breach]

It is me! In H40

[wraith sphinx]

marty zealot sleep paralysis demon

also holy shit we just got jinxed by the announcements channel

[pale prairie]

Bless you sir. The run failed not because of bosses I know that for sure

[zealous wing]

something about pet spotlight

dw

yet

[pale prairie]

Nani?

[icy breach]

Tbh its not a bad build as i thought it would be; fairs nicely as a brawler/elite cruncher

[wraith sphinx]

do you have mentions turned off

[pale prairie]

Perfect I’ll just let you handle the bulwark wall

[pale prairie]

Yes

Oh wonderful you talking about pets?

Perfect and just a small hint as to news about news about a possible update?

[wraith sphinx]

I mean that's cute but um

not really what we expect

[icy breach]

I did had some bulwark waves with this build; its alright really

[pale prairie]

And THIS justifies my mentions being off for this server

[dusk timber]

anyways

[icy breach]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13963592086015309119/EB39A9BC31BE8B2A72631115FB56A81CB6F573AA/

[pale prairie]

Yeah bulwarks are a problem with most classes

[icy breach]

Once i get home i’ll show you a clip; i did not do 50% of the work in it but i did my part

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

Love me a zealot that handles bosses

[dusk timber]

zealot's paths are a jumbled incoherent mess that dont really manage to have very clear and distinct identities compared to each other

[icy breach]

Have a better example 👌
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/11046988873290077512/24F9CBBDACF0C5467518E18ACDA48D570B1800EA/

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-news-news-ctr-gif-15528752

[pale prairie]

Havoc is the one place where I don’t get sad about instant boss death

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-sudsy-dexter-show-james-doakes-gif-3554202570575115602

[pale prairie]

Alright new plan: hold fatshark pets hostage till we get free reworks for the rest of the classes

[dusk timber]

with a vet rework i can see some stuff staying mostly the same with just a tree restructure being enough to make them more popular

zealot is gonna be almost completely unrecognizable post rework

[pale prairie]

I mean hopefully

[dusk timber]

yeah i mean it in a good way

[pale prairie]

Honestly as long as everything is in line with each other I’ll be happy

[ruby cypress]

So... I've been dabbling in trying the Psyker. Normally, I am a HUGE frontline player and build Zealot and Arbitrator to do just that. I tried to get Psyker to do the same, but I just can't quite seem to get it right, and otherwise, find the Psyker to be a little too squishy for any kind of frontline work, so I have been adjusting my playstyle and build to be a backline ranged.

Some people have suggested to use normal weapons because there ARE perks for the Psyker to to so, but I wanted to play Psyker to be a wizard, so I'm gonna be a wizard and use my staff and blaze sword.

Are there any tips to not be so squishy when I'm suddenly surrounded, or is it just a case of "get good"? Even when I stick to my teammates, I still feel like I just can't do much if we're all surrounded.

[dusk timber]

dont use staffs until youre maxed out

you will suffer

[ruby cypress]

Ah... well, too late for that. Already level 29...

[dusk timber]

staff stats too