psyker-class

[cinder perch]

Now do I take a normal melee weapon or the emperors toothpick?

[tulip kettle]

everything burns

well, trash is gonna die like nobodies business

elites will exmplode if you put them in the middle of the circle

[zealous wing]

probably something to help you fend off big things in emergency

[tulip kettle]

so really only mutants and crushers are gonna be a problem

[zealous wing]

deimos perhaps, if you want to avoid FGS

[deft stump]

Someone went red.

[cinder perch]

Then I'll just take the dueling sword because I sold off most of my other melees

[zealous wing]

oof lol

[tulip kettle]

DS is perfect

with carapace and maniacs

to bonk crushers and muties

[zealous wing]

i try to keep one of each melee i might ever use or want to try

[deft stump]

Deimos if you wanna not be seen with a DS.

[tulip kettle]

MY STREET CRED

[zealous wing]

i even have a max combat knife and taxe if i wanna

[cinder perch]

I think I HAVE one of each of them, just not maxed

[zealous wing]

since i learned theres a 25mil ordo limit apparently my brain decided its time for me to make myself broke, so i went for it lol

also, after using FGS so much, i discovered playing ogryn is a bit less painful

still unpleasant, low level problems, but can at least tolerate him now

[tulip kettle]

playing ogryn is "i click the bully club"

i throw the rock

i win the game

[zealous wing]

mainly using the shield, havent found a good gun but i think kickback is working fine enough for the level up process

[tulip kettle]

shield is fine

but has literally the worst dodges in the games

put brutal momentum on it, then spam H1-block cancel

[zealous wing]

ye its not great, mainly had it from when my spouse wanted to get MM as well

[tulip kettle]

cronching 4 bruisers in 1 hit is always satisfying

[zealous wing]

so i got the oggy up to shield, then we went for it

[radiant frigate]

but vhat about mein boss damage..

[tulip kettle]

non gunker psyker - boss damage

pick one

[zealous wing]

hmm

not dealing boss damage in pubs is honestly a huge pain

[radiant frigate]

single weapon fgs it is then

[zealous wing]

because NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO KILL IT 😭

[tulip kettle]

as is holy and written

[zealous wing]

now i hunt every QP for a combat stim because i KNOW some mfer is gonna show up and kill a few people

[spark swallow]

I never thought that Scrier+Trauma is so fun.
Everything just keeps exploding and burning indefinitely!
I use to just use SC on gunker but using it on Surge and Trauma is fun too!

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-ludwig-my-true-mentor-my-guiding-moonlight-moonlight-gif-20321022

[tulip kettle]

its, OK

scrier is definitely worse than shriek on trauma though

scrier on EK is great fun

[radiant frigate]

oh most definitely

[acoustic jacinth]

My man

Probably my favorite build

[spark swallow]

i've been gunkering for a while now so finding this one lights the soul burn in my heart again xD

[radiant frigate]

this is great for speedrunning an explosion

[acoustic jacinth]

Warp unbound

• siphon

= never blow up

[tulip kettle]

• seers + cdr curios

[acoustic jacinth]

(Literally)

[radiant frigate]

[spark swallow]

yes!

[tulip kettle]

100% peril ALL THE TIME BABYYY

but the issue with it on trauma

blazing only goes up to 6 stacks

[spark swallow]

3 of same curio is nice

[tulip kettle]

so you really need the shriek to bump the stack numbers

[radiant frigate]

the hairstyle compels you to scream MAYFLIES

[tulip kettle]

come now darlings

[spark swallow]

its just for quickening cooldown. get those stacks of siphon up real quick

[acoustic jacinth]

It's so peak. I also got convinced to use smite with this in particular and icl it's not a bad idea. I was only taking BB for KF since EK M1 is so stupidly good anyways, so now with smite, i have efficient, safe trash horde clear to make up for the single target premise of the staff

[tulip kettle]

yeah i mean i tried it

but also

[radiant frigate]

no no 6 stacks of soulblaze

[tulip kettle]

you have access to anticipation and ightning speed

[spark swallow]

yeah, its enough just to keep geting siphon with "In Fire Reborn"

[cinder perch]

Running the build in damnation rn, very fun

Absolutely cleaves through everyone

[tulip kettle]

and when we have these, there is only 1 melee that exists

[cinder perch]

Only issue has been I peril'd myself lmao

[tulip kettle]

youll get the hang of it

you want to aim for charging at around 80 peril

then quelling back down

[spark swallow]

yeah, I mean if you're used to perile management without Vent or SC

you'll be fine

[tulip kettle]

the cool thing is you just tap quell while sliding

and yes, again blazing trauma just NEEDS creeping flames

to take things higher than 6 stacks of blaze

you wont have any trouble stacking warp charges

[radiant frigate]

SC?

super credits?

[spark swallow]

Scrier's Gaze + Warpp Unbound

[radiant frigate]

serpentshrine cavern?

scrier's caze

[spark swallow]

in my case rn, "Scrier's Craze"

[radiant frigate]

scry some more

https://tenor.com/view/tf-2-heavy-gif-8105784746562167716

[tulip kettle]

and if you dont pull shriek, put it on the bottom of the deck.

[radiant frigate]

it costs 400000 mana to cast this spell
for twelve seconds

[cinder perch]

Okay this build COOKS thanks so much @tulip kettle

[spark swallow]

Just a fun build

[tulip kettle]

why wildfire

is this for use with blazing trauma?

the more i look at this build the more nonsense i see

back to burning ratties

[radiant frigate]

blaze trauma without nexus?

[spark swallow]

Yeah, in favor of spam

[acoustic jacinth]

Nexus is very important tbh, and if you're going to use warp unbound SG, you're just way better off playing EK or Voidstrike

Blaze trauma is used in tangent with shriek

And for a very good reason

The idea to keep SG going is not bad but just poorly done

[marble crater]

If you want to spam trauma, use rending trauma

[spark swallow]

Yeah its not optimal, its just fun

That bit is what I enjoy

Just spamming it

If I'm going with my original build, its nexus and flames

Then shriek and siphon

Another fun one I use to zip around and break up groups as a frontliner is force sword+rending after breaking the group and shrieking. Just speeds up the process of killing groups with melee

[plucky flax]

I bought £80 of poe2

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/dropout-game-changer-jacob-wysocki-mr-moneybags-gif-8837958319856302672

[zealous wing]

has this hat ever been in cycle where the cloth was either not there or was a different colour? hard to match the red with anything i've got or want to wear regularly, been curious though because other than the cloth the hat is nice

all i could locate from searching discord has been this same hat as it is, but longtime players might know for sure

like, if the cloth was even just grey or brown, even white, it would SO work

[deft stump]

I think it was matched with an older rogue trader set.

[wraith sphinx]

As far as I know, there is only one trader hat variant

[icy breach]

no soulstealer on a warp based build... pepega

[wraith sphinx]

Also mettle despite not taking prescience

Sacrilege

[icy breach]

exacly; your only source of it is from random crits & perilous combustion - and your yield on spreading is not that high to begin with but i understand it slightly cause you took in fire reborn; still not the best choice

[wraith sphinx]

This build is genuinely compromised, redo it from scratch

[icy breach]

nah; even on crit builds ppl run cd aura cause it saves you points

5% crit not significant enough in comparison to 10% cdr

[wraith sphinx]

Only if you don't explicitly go for a crit build

If you're going for crits, it's best to go all in

[icy breach]

every psyker build is crit unless you go smite an even then ppl dont take it

i wonder why

[wraith sphinx]

🤨

[icy breach]

its the position of the tree

and pathing

you lose a talent if you go for crit aura

[summer prairie]

rending trauma isn't

[icy breach]

yeah forgot about it; its low key goat

[wraith sphinx]

That is still suboptimal if you aren't going for scrier's gaze

The crit chance on non SG builds is still whatever

[icy breach]

what is better;
5% crit aura
or
10% cdr aura that allows you to use your ability more that your build is based on that gives you ALL the buffs like 20% crit, 10% dmg & gets better the longer is active

its ez math boi

[spark swallow]

^ not at my pc atm so cant really check out the stuff you guys point out. But yeah its not optimal nor good for havoc, its just a fun idea I had (main gunker, I dont play with staves after the whole headshot and gibbing issue with Surge staff

[wraith sphinx]

well if I'm playing with scrier's gaze then crit aura is better because it complements scrier's gaze which also has an incredibly short cooldown

otherwise I'm using the cdr aura

[spark swallow]

But damn I liked surge staff back then

[icy breach]

its still good really; unchanged

[spark swallow]

I liked it better back then when you actually have to aim for headshots

[wraith sphinx]

actually no I lied I still use prescience on my non crit build psyker too lol

because I don't like playing without anticipation

[icy breach]

i mean... you just spam m2

[spark swallow]

Yeah it made it boring tho

[icy breach]

valid but point taxing

[spark swallow]

Its too easy to go surge and spam shriek

[wraith sphinx]

oh wait no it's my gimmick soulfire build where I use souldrinker too

[wraith sphinx]

like it looks like this

[icy breach]

Have you tried
Smite

[wraith sphinx]

oops all soulfire talents

[spark swallow]

Never, I hated that. Other smykers mess up my melee timings because of smite

Or just gets rid of fun

I still like stabbing with my knife

[icy breach]

its fun till you lose cause there was no smite to save ya

[spark swallow]

I dun need it if I dun get hit lmfao

[wraith sphinx]

you can just use it when you actually need to lol

[icy breach]

Havoc

[spark swallow]

I dun like playing havoc ngl

It just stresses me out.

Im ady stressed at work

I play for pleasure

[wraith sphinx]

yeah havoc is unfun 😔

[icy breach]

then this game ain't for you

[spark swallow]

Nope, not everyone needs to go through havoc

[icy breach]

do play stardew valley

[wraith sphinx]

[spark swallow]

Its just I dont need to unnecessarily stress myself or I just know my limit

[spark swallow]

Fuck that game lmao. I dun get how that game is fun

[icy breach]

if you don't have a good build & most impotantly skill yes its unfun... but so is ANY game

[icy breach]

i haven't played it myself i just put it out there

[spark swallow]

So.. if you cant play the hardest difficulty, that means youre not meant for the game? I dun think thats how it works.

Its a game

[wraith sphinx]

how do I put this succintly

[icy breach]

its not that you can't
You refuse to
and thats a massive difference

but you do you; its a choice

[wraith sphinx]

I can take the most random most dogshit weapon and talent combinations to an auric maelstrom game with 3 terrible randoms and still win if I'm locked in

I can't do that in havoc

[spark swallow]

Then where did this comment come from?

[icy breach]

ye cause its endgame duh

[wraith sphinx]

standard game lets you use whatever loadout you want and you'll win because you're good

havoc takes that away

[icy breach]

the game in general is quite stressful; you should know that

and it gets worse

[wraith sphinx]

that's bad game design

[icy breach]

for the unprepared

[icy breach]

thats like almost every game that demands alot from the player lmao

[spark swallow]

Yeah and not going for havoc which has no actual story progression is just an added challenge for those who has time to play and practice it. I mean if I dont have 3 little munchkins running around taking my time apart from work and household then I might've picked up on the challenge lmao

[wraith sphinx]

darktide doesn't demand a lot though

it just tries your patience with bullshit

[icy breach]

thats nice; keep your munchkins in check

[zealous wing]

i dont see how someone finding a moshpit stressful wouldnt go to a metal concert. if someone doesnt like havoc, thats not 100% of the game. if someone wants to focus on running through uprising for 3k hours, let them. its a game, let tham have fun how they have fun.

[icy breach]

[wraith sphinx]

yeah I quite don't know what was the point of that earlier gatekeepy remark, it's their choice which difficulty they want to play on

[icy breach]

i dunno man; awareness, micromanaging, build making, synergies between teammates
I dunno

[wraith sphinx]

and this is psyker-chat, not havoc-general

[spark swallow]

I cant really comment on this since the backend stuff I worked with, people could say the same thing xD

[icy breach]

every chat is havoc chat... or any class really; ppl talk about everything everywhere in this server if you look hard enough

[spark swallow]

Anyways once I'm home gonna check the pointers people gave, see if I can make the SC trauma more fun xD

[zealous wing]

out of curiosity i went into uprising and literally just fucked around until i almost died. you can get away with a TON in this game if you match the difficulty to what you wanna do. honestly i like that its that versatile, fuck around mode, and fuck around, find out mode, and everything in between

[icy breach]

do keep those updates coming; can help ya if you wish too

[wraith sphinx]

I mean

[icy breach]

i have to go too

[wraith sphinx]

there are no enemies on uprising

[icy breach]

i can confirm; coming from H40 to even heresy is like... a walk in the park

[zealous wing]

not none, it was the ampetheatre one in the carnival, you can apparently still get fucked up if you're dumb about it

[icy breach]

its soo chill

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah

Auric maelstrom is simply my fun zone and I love it

[spark swallow]

Sadly that's the level the peeps who bought this game with me (they goaded me to playign with them, now they have abandoned me in game) play on xD

[wraith sphinx]

and like I've said a million times I'd play havoc if it got rid of the party finder

[icy breach]

i mean ppl can break their legs by getting out of bed (real stories btw) so yeah
same goes for fking up arby builds despite being almost idiot proof

[spark swallow]

Im stuck with 1 penance that requires private game xD

[icy breach]

the brainburst one?

[spark swallow]

Yeah

[icy breach]

can help

later tho

[zealous wing]

the arby who died first in an auric mission and ragequit will live in my head rent free

[icy breach]

i will have to leave like NOW

[spark swallow]

Its been there since forever lmfao.
Im in asia, I doubt we can hop on

[zealous wing]

there were 2 psykers, for context

bro just MELTED

[icy breach]

whats your time now? I have 3.30 pm but will be back in like 4h

[spark swallow]

Arbys are the tankiest class Ive seen ngl

[zealous wing]

tankiness cant save you from stupidity

[wraith sphinx]

I can help you now if yo uwant

[spark swallow]

9:30pm, just doing laundry rn so im away from home

[wraith sphinx]

ah

[zealous wing]

or really bad luck i suppose, but since he ragequit i presume the former

[deft stump]

I can help at like 10:30pm-11pm GMT+8.

Is MM, right?

[zealous wing]

it probably is

[spark swallow]

I'll check if I can actually play later on, if the kids are still up and running around, most likely not.
Triplets js no joke. I feel like we skipped some levels of parenting kekw

[zealous wing]

oof

[icy breach]

You know; someone’s gonna fill up that declining birth rate; you’re doing the species & the economy a great deal of service

[spark swallow]

Tell that to my wife, shes the one who gave birth to triplets, I'm just helping her and providing for our family lmao

[marble crater]

Good luck

[deft stump]

Doom.

[radiant frigate]

yeah but you have to engage in a specific type of stupid (get netted) to die

since due to dog presence you are immune to dog

[pale prairie]

They can out toughness an Ogryn it’s crazy and definitely generate it faster

[zealous wing]

he got ganged up on from being too cocky, guess he didnt have or ran out of his "anti-death" ability

[wraith sphinx]

Yup, trappers are still the thing that still end my runs the most

[loud girder]

nah

you just need to be bad

this is 99% of the playerbase

[dusk timber]

already got that covered

[loud girder]

except me of course im goated

[wraith sphinx]

Trappers are also the main reason I don't like playing on servers outside my own because the lag makes it impossible to dodge nets

[loud girder]

just paly the current event and see the level of brain dmg players have

shooting bursters near teamates

letting bombers do their thing for ages

just pressing W

on pretty much all classes

[wraith sphinx]

True

Imagine if randoms pressed W that much on rolling steel

Win rate would jump up to 100%

[loud girder]

i wish 😭

that map is literally press w

rolling steel is funny its either a very ez clear or an absolute hellhole

[wraith sphinx]

All you gotta do is press w and lmb!!!

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah the moment an arby stops to sniff his own farts it's fucking over

One time I played and saw a random stay like two wagons behind while the rest of us struggled forward

Ended up quitting halfway through

[deft stump]

They shoot through walls at my ping even, lul.

[wraith sphinx]

So this is the power of fujoshi...

[acoustic jacinth]

Tbh i feel like vermintide did the idea of a "trapper" better audio wise

You can make out CLANK CLANK CLANK

No matter what happens

[zealous wing]

idk i can hear the giggle over literally everything else

fear, perhaps

[deft stump]

Here, you get net jumpscare.

[dusk timber]

eh idk

that bitch cant shut the fuck up

[deft stump]

Naw, bitch can be extremely quiet. I'm just tuned to it out of fear even on Arby.

[dusk timber]

same for the majority of specials

[zealous wing]

it was the scab flamer that gave the most trouble now he stands out like a sore thumb lmao

[dusk timber]

scab flamer has the most subtle cue iirc yeah

[zealous wing]

they forgot his voicelines initially 💀

[dusk timber]

its like the sound of a gas stove lighting up

[zealous wing]

now they're in

[acoustic jacinth]

Granted, i have pretty shitty hearing but that's the thing. When everyone has their own voicelines they overlap and drown each other out. Not to mention the noise that teammates and their weapons make on top of all of this

[dusk timber]

wait really?

havent been able to notice them

what are they?

[zealous wing]

its hard to describe tbh, i havent paid attention much just, new voiceline/voice? scab flamer

[wraith sphinx]

"Initially" they were bugged for a month or two

[zealous wing]

something something fireball

[dusk timber]

tbh this is also part of the reason i keep the subtitles on

[zealous wing]

honestly though the VA did good i just cant remember the sentences

trapper is like "did someone call for a " wicker? wire gun? i cant tell

[dusk timber]

specialist cue voicelines dont show up in the subtitles so when i hear voicelines but dont see subtitles its an immediate red flag

[zealous wing]

ye

[dusk timber]

also "something new for my collection" "ill sell you (something something)"

[zealous wing]

"ill sell you down here" maybe?

[dusk timber]

do snipers have voicelines though?

[zealous wing]

no they have an "EH"

they make rat noises

[dusk timber]

im pretty sure i hear a "down to" and then something i cant make out

[acoustic jacinth]

Ragers are hilarious

YOUR DEATH WILL EUGHHH BE BLEGHHH SWEET

[dusk timber]

ngl snipers feel more like elites than specialists

idk why

[zealous wing]

dreg ragers sound like that "im not racist, but asian people suUUUGHHH" meme sometimes

like i hear it and it throws me off a little like, who tf coughed

bro needs honey water quick

its hard to explain that sound any other way

also, can we talk about the tox bombers

why they sound so horny for nurgle

[dusk timber]

i very rarely hear the voicelines for elites except for maulers

or at least pay attention

[zealous wing]

i can never remember to clip things, ill try to when i can

the dregs are just all around ... odd

[wraith sphinx]

I think dreg ragers say stuff like "From life... death" and "Grandfather... give me the strength to kill (in your name?)"

Maulers are pretty intelligible, can't mistake them yelling "For the Grandfather!"

[tulip kettle]

DIE NOW

[zealous wing]

sorry :(

[tulip kettle]

web gun

[zealous wing]

WEB GUN

that sounds right

did someone call for a web gun

[tulip kettle]

ill slow you down

[wraith sphinx]

CASTING NET! HEHEHEHUEHEHEHEUU

[tulip kettle]

something new for my collection

[dusk timber]

or them yelling for the other enemies to get out of their way

[zealous wing]

my kill

[wraith sphinx]

Yep

I think only crushers don't say anything intelligible?

[zealous wing]

hmm

an interesting point

[tulip kettle]

all the ogryn voice lines are just, ogryn voice lines

[zealous wing]

bulwarks say "stomp you flat"

[tulip kettle]

but chaos-ey

[wraith sphinx]

They just chuckle and roar

Peak male performance honestly

[zealous wing]

might be hard to talk with the facial scarring the scabs do

[wraith sphinx]

Nah

[zealous wing]

bro they missing the whole upper lip wdym nah 😭

[wraith sphinx]

Most enemies don't even have lips yet speak coherently

[zealous wing]

you think an oggy would bother working around it?

"this is me now. RAWWWR"

[wraith sphinx]

Bomber, moving to position!
doesn't even have the lips to pronounce b

[zealous wing]

you CAN make a sound very similar to a B to make it work over such a long distance

[dusk timber]

they use a soundboard

[zealous wing]

lmao

"welcome to the mobian 6th. here is your special issue soundboard. this will give you set lines to choose from when about to attack an enemy. we want them to think you're all the same dude. oh, also... speaking of, your facial structure needs some slight... modifications. please hold still."

i AM curious why only some of them have that scarring though. is it a matter of who joined after vs who was part of the original 6th? is it an initiation thing?

[loud girder]

if you look up enemy voicelines

they do talk a lot

we just dont hear it in action much cause 1 billion things are happening

and because their voicelines are either cries for help straight out of a horror game

or random grunts/shouts from disfigured nurgle cultists

[wraith sphinx]

a lot of voice stuff also straight up does not play because it's very easy to reach the sound channel limit

[radiant frigate]

except of course dreg gunners

[zealous wing]

this poor soul in LFG emea

literally every other class after this is gonna be a struggle

doesnt know what they stepped into

[deft stump]

Except oggy.

[zealous wing]

even still

and they're on xbox

any other class will be a difficult one in comparison, even arby if it ever gets the fucking nerf hammer anytime soon

[marble crater]

Oh no, not Xbox

[zealous wing]

yeah yeah i know mr h40

shush youre just a god

[deft stump]

You mean, TS H40.

[zealous wing]

TS?

true solo?

[marble crater]

I wish

[zealous wing]

also, crushers DO have at least one line

i cant remember it but i DID clip it so i just gotta cut that down

i hear "smash" clearly but not the word before

[marble crater]

Word before might be "would"

[late yew]

ok, if you spam flaming shriek it is pretty stupid

[tulip kettle]

man with aoe trash clear clears lots of trash

more news at 11

[radiant frigate]

yes very true

[marble crater]

Say it ain't so

[ripe obsidian]

I was so perplexed when Shriek in Rogue Trader only hit one enemy

Well, mostly disappointed

[raven mountain]

Yeah, there's other "spells" for aoe shriek, but they don't set anything on fire. 🙁

Though fire psyker is a force of nature, regardless, ime. Doesn't really matter how much armor or how many enemies they have, it just kinda scales infinitely.

[prime saddle]

is the wall shield any good or is it only really worth using the bubble?

[strong gulch]

Double wall is largely not worth it.

X2 wall can help juice EP BB with KR (but this is a niche build)

walls can also be nice for when the game spams specials at you (like mutant trains in maels)

[pale prairie]

Unless of course you don’t get the node for stunning

[strong gulch]

But it's funny. 2 free points and you get to grief your team.

[late yew]

Except it does not clear just trash

[late yew]

there was another spell that did aoe

[late yew]

now shut

It is great for BB builds

Very good boss and elites clear

[strong gulch]

IDK about very good, especially in a semi competent team or better.

Also, I mention BB builds directly below that line.

I say that as a BB enjoyer.

[marble crater]

Only trolls use wall shield 🥔

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, there are multiple. Like Cassia has her eye thing.

I generally dislike Idira, so she's not in my party anymore.

[wind wind]

Hellooooo lightbulbs

How is it going

[icy breach]

just is not a correct word my friend; your contribution is as good aswell
Keep it up King
and Queen

[late yew]

Did anyone do math on how much damage scrier + DD add to DS and laspistol?

I feel like i one-shot everything on headshots

[pale prairie]

Build or personality?

[late yew]

and gotta say, 25 DD stacks is definitely a better talent

[late yew]

HOW DARE YOU

[pale prairie]

Just wish multiple targets could get marked like EO

[dusk timber]

idira is the psyker from the start of the game right?

[pale prairie]

She’s the UNSANCTIONEDPSYKER

[late yew]

yes

[dusk timber]

huh

guess i havent gotten to her yet then

or tbh i prob wont ever get to her

[late yew]

And she has that personal item that increases her psychic rating for every single psychic event

Which makes it completely busted

[late yew]

????????

you literally cannot avoid getting her?

[pale prairie]

Yeah she’s a default character

[late yew]

She is literally in the first 10 min of the game?

[dusk timber]

ok so she is the one right at the start of the game

[late yew]

her name not that hard to remember

[dusk timber]

idk i kinda just gave up on rogue trader once i found out ||i cant romance the sister of battle||

[late yew]

bruh

[tulip kettle]

any VT2 enjoyers?

[late yew]

why

[tulip kettle]

because im playing VT2...

[dusk timber]

are you sure?

[late yew]

So go to VT2 discord?

[tulip kettle]

what a tool you are

[late yew]

... are you stupid?

[tulip kettle]

oh jeez

i guess i must be

[radiant frigate]

what if i'm banished from vt2 discord

[tulip kettle]

ah hes russian

now i understand

[late yew]

What did you do

[radiant frigate]

i said something that could be interpreted as racist by some

and so i was vanquished

[zinc phoenix]

Fucking elgi had it coming

They’re no better than rats

[tulip kettle]

raki

smell bad

[radiant frigate]

i'm #reformed now

[tulip kettle]

im not

[radiant frigate]

not even with the #?

[tulip kettle]

shameless rat hater

[radiant frigate]

so wait are you banished too

[tulip kettle]

no i just wanted to ask the people i play DT with all the time

its not hard to find people to play with i was just asking, you know, the people i frequently play with

[radiant frigate]

as someone who doesn't have to live in the setting of WHF

i like the funny rat people

[radiant frigate]

👍🏻 makes sense i just misunderstood then

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-grenade-truth-nuke-gif-6248133608324632914

rats are like

top 5 animals

ever

[tulip kettle]

and yes rat men are cool yes-yes

i have begun the conversion of my admech into ratmech

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/skaven-cheiften-skaven-cheiften-guitar-rat-gif-24492026

[tulip kettle]

probably not gonna do the whole army though just a couple ranger squads and some breachers

maybe a dunecrawler but im not inspired for that one yet

[late yew]

top 3

[dusk timber]

actually true

foxes are somewhere there too

[tulip kettle]

foxes fking stink tho

same as ferrets

they are super cute

but smell terrible

[dusk timber]

theyre funny tho

just like rats

[strong gulch]

I can try a couple rounds.

[tulip kettle]

join me yes-yes

[late yew]

hot take

i hate dogs

Smelly, and not cute

and needy

[ripe obsidian]

Build, mostly. Personality is eh.

[strong gulch]

https://discord.gg/APBUf7Nn

[pale prairie]

You said dwarves suck and elves are superior didn’t you?

The ratling speaking is so fun-fun

[radiant frigate]

no i actually have a lot of respect for dwarves, even if they are lumberfoots

[brazen compass]

They, like most if not all pets, are basically kids who never grow up

Can be cute, can be well behaved, but expensive and not for the faint of heart

[late yew]

No. Cats are way better.

[lusty frost]

What's a good voidstrike build?

Should I try to focus on Crit?

[jovial juniper]

That's a yes

[proper osprey]

Yeah

[fallen yacht]

what talents are we using on dueling sword nowadays?

[dense flume]

Thrust + uncanny tend to be the staples afaik. I like agile, though. At least on the purg/bubble build since ds is kind of defensive there and unlimited dodges can be helpful

Oh you said talents. Derp

[jovial juniper]

Uncanny Riposte Precognition

Literally any talent

Staffkers use for single target damage if they don't want obscurus or Deimos or FGS

Gunkers use if they don't want knife or FGS or tactical axe

It's just that good

If you're a hands gameplay psyker then it helps killing elites for EP stacks

[dense flume]

Out of curiosity, is that your preference in order?

[jovial juniper]

For most builds it's Uncanny + Riposte/Precognition

Or you could go full CRIT build with Riposte Precognition

[marble crater]

Uncanny and Thrust, to avoid having to decide between riposte and precog

[ruby tide]

any fellow space wizard enjoyers have a max damage build? trying to find what all affects smite and if theres any way to make my build better

ie i was told your warp resist on staff affects how much you build up with smite ect

[patent jacinth]

Smite and damage do not go in the same build

The only way you can make smite "do damage" is use it to spam Shriek for Soulblaze damage

[ruby tide]

but is there like a best staff to use, anything complement smite

[ripe obsidian]

Hey wait, you stole my Psyker's name. >:(

[patent jacinth]

Nothing really compliments smite

Its just a hold 2 buttons and wait for you team to do anything tool

[ruby tide]

idk, i just had a maelstrom with 723k dmg and next closest was 535k

just trying to optimize it

[patent jacinth]

If you want staves for crowd control Voidblast and Inferno are the picks

[ruby tide]

ive been trying inferno for a backup when i dont have emp psyonics stacks

[patent jacinth]

Alternatively, if you're cool, you use right tree and Voidstrike

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is the most fun staff, it is true

[ruby tide]

i thought right tree sucked for smite because it cant crit

or just main use strike

[patent jacinth]

You don't use smite for right tree

You use assail

[ruby tide]

fair

i just want to feel like darth sidious lol

[patent jacinth]

Electrokinetic staff

[ruby tide]

yeah its good for single damage but its not the same

smite buffs when

[patent jacinth]

Never

hopefully

I want it reworked to not be terrible so bad

[ripe obsidian]

Replace smite with some sort of AoE CC with a long-ish cooldown or massive peril cost. Black hole is my vote. Pull all the enemies into one place

[edgy smelt]

all i can imagine is cassia from rogue trader now with point of curiosity i believe its called

[ripe obsidian]

That is the ability, yes. I learned about it after my initial black hole idea, but it makes me feel like it's reasonably canon

[edgy smelt]

but that feels more like an ability not blitz

[ripe obsidian]

Possibly. But I want to find something that fills the same niche of high CC, low damage

I'd also enjoy some sort of force wave you through out that either slows enemy attacks/movespeed or locks them in place. The latter would likely be too powerful.

Or, hell, make it so one cast slows enemies and multiple locks them down.

[jovial juniper]

Smite
Empowered Psyonics
+5% ranged damage
Warp Rider

With the forbidden Warp Unbound

Enfeeble

[ruby tide]

ty ill test it out

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1274487631987605674/GVHX15RXoAApby3-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[jovial juniper]

Maximize EP and Warp Rider output

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

Diva is my favorite maelstrom because of the existence of Warp Syphon Smite Gaze Unbound

Burster conga is the so free Warp Syphon

Because smite just instakills them

[zealous wing]

tomorrow marks 2 weeks since i got the BK build. i think thing's are going quite well 🙂

quickplaying into heresy is no longer stressful, but enjoyable :D

[zealous wing]

maybe damnation within the next week at this rate?

[candid temple]

I'd suggest trying damnation now, it's really not that much harder.

• players are usually slightly more competent, which increases success rate.

[zealous wing]

nah i gotta get a lil better at not getting hit before i run damnation/auric pubs

gotten too low hp for my liking in heresy

[candid temple]

just run ds and dodge

[zealous wing]

nah i use bubbleknight

so i got an FGS

DS is terrible for crowd control

[quick crystal]

Hi. So I've recently started leveling up psyker (since they seem to be hardest to find in havoc) and was wondering if there are any tips? It feels very different from other classes with constant juggling between staff, blitz and melee.
The path im going for is focused on electricity (staff for elite focus, and blitz for horde control) and also invest a lot in reduced peril generation and cooldown.

[zealous wing]

well, first thing, smite will teach you bad habits if you aren't careful with it

[craggy moat]

Can spyker still kill walls of armored enemies with soulblaze uncany combo?

[zealous wing]

second thing, a major part of psyker DPS is being able to maintain about 70-80 peril when using a staff especially, and using kinetic flayer from brain rupture is vital to that build, esp on a havoc / auric

[zealous wing]

spyker?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[craggy moat]

Psyker

[jovial juniper]

Nothing changed about it

[zealous wing]

ah

[craggy moat]

Ohh cool i was thinking maybe it got nerfed cause it is kinda op, but then again not evrybody know how to pull it off

[zealous wing]

check the pins for a build that might work better for you and give it a try, the EK build might be a good way to teach you some more basics that hold up well in auric+

it wont be smite, but, smite isnt high DPS and inferno staff /voidblast are better for crowd control

the only time i've seen smite work well in auric is on the current event, for dealing with bursters

[craggy moat]

To be honest there is smite build that works very well and can put up good dmg nummbers, but the gameplay itself is just braindead, basicaly hold 1 button for 30 mins, and you basicaly dont learn how to play the game properly

[zealous wing]

ye theres a lot of emphasis on "bad habits"

similar to the poor souls starting darktide on the current arbitrator

[jovial juniper]

Keep your toughness up
Dodging
Soulstealer
Quietude
Mettle

[craggy moat]

Bruh arbitrator is just crazy wtf did they think adding that monster in this state

[jovial juniper]

Or even bubble if you feel like bubbling

[ornate hamlet]

Soul what? Que who? Mettle?

[zealous wing]

mettle is addicting

need to beat the zealot to the task because im feeling competitive? shoot a few groaners behind me. zoom. win.

every time i do that the zealot, vet, whoever just kinda stares at the thing like "why cant i open the... oh"

[quick crystal]

From what I gather while using smite so far, the main issue is getting hit from behind, due to reduced mobility?
I play zealot in havoc mostly and noticed a lot of psykers use brain rupture with flame staff. And it feels like these builds start to struggle against a lot of elites, especially crushers or ragers (since brain rupture is kinda slow). So when 20+ of them with the horde behind them start rushing the team, neither brain rupture, nor flames are fast enough to stop them.

[jovial juniper]

You can technically get over smite mobility issues if you manage your dodges so you're always dodge positive and also dodge slide

[zealous wing]

thats usually what the melee is for fending off until they can get somewhere safe, but its also the bash-and-wacker's job to keep the glass cannons free to deal the dmg

[jovial juniper]

But the reality is that all of the blitzes have their drawback

[quick crystal]

I sometimes feel bad for psykers when I shoot elites before they fully load brain rupture or mow down a horde they were trying to burn

[jovial juniper]

Brain Rupture is mostly picked for the Flayer node

[zealous wing]

if they're running inferno with kinetic flayer, every single attack including passive fire ticks can trigger a head burst, with a 15s cooldown

[jovial juniper]

And it's 15 seconds

Which is not ideal

[zealous wing]

usually using the actual blitz is saved for "this thing is causing issues i need it gone NOW" mode

like a far away sniper or if they're the last one alive kind of deal

i use it to pick off gunners surprisingly often as an inferno build, esp in pubs, because no one can take them out fast enough to keep us moving, so it helps, and it also spreads flames even further away

cluster of 15 gunners, headpop one, the rest get covered in fire

[quick crystal]

Stopping 10 crushers in their track with smite sounds very strong to me. Had these havo games where absurd crusher spawns forced the team back to elevator

[zealous wing]

its strong, but you cant fight back during it, its similar to chorus for zealot in that way.

but chorus will also stagger monsters

[jovial juniper]

Yes it's strong

Woops no enemy can attack

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-monsters-unleashed-epic-win-victory-jared-leto-gif-23353116

[quick crystal]

That being said, it feels a waste using flame staff while having smite. Since they're both aoe and leaves you without single target focus

[zealous wing]

you'd use it with KF

EK also works great with KF

[jovial juniper]

Indeed
Pretty much overlapping roles

[zealous wing]

also, an important note

theres a havoc modifier that stops enemies from being able to be stunned, no?

[jovial juniper]

And if you bring a good melee against single target you pretty much don't need to use Brain Rupture at all

[zealous wing]

that would render smite entirely useless

[quick crystal]

Yeah. Would render smite pretty much useless

[jovial juniper]

Final toll
Elites under 50% hp blah blah blah cc immunity

[quick crystal]

It starts working only when enemies drop to 50% hp but still

[jovial juniper]

But smite already falls off at havoc due to horde enemies having more mass and generally more hp

[strong gulch]

If red and purple, the red enemies can be healed but still be red.

Inferno has infinite cleave and smite does not.

You can stay more mobile with staff too.

[jovial juniper]

Smite would absolutely devour havoc
But Fatshark was smart for once and gave those hidden modifiers to every enemy

[strong gulch]

And yeah BB isn't used that much. It's more to help with range.

BUT also pathing to KF. Which helps with snoeballing SB DoTs for and from other talents.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-dexter-dexter-doakes-gotcha-found-you-gif-14688017774431904057

[quick crystal]

So one of the downsides of smite is limited number of enemies it can stun?

[zealous wing]

one of the downsides, yes

but comparatively its a very small downside

[jovial juniper]

Oh no
It goes on infinitely
However it'll only tether to 2-3 targets at first

Within 15 meters at first

[strong gulch]

When compared to inferno smite kills less, it's less mobile, has few enemies that it can handle at a time, is more affected by hitmass and hp increases, and is less apply and move on.

[jovial juniper]

Then it spreads to every 2-3 enemies around 5-6 meters of the target being smited

Smiten?

Smoten?

You get it

[zealous wing]

smote i think

[jovial juniper]

So yeah it also scales with density

The more the merrier

Basically psyker whole schtick rn

[quick crystal]

I do aim for cc rather than dps. Maybe it's in my head, but it feels like a lot of psyker dps goes to waste. Like burning a horde while a zealot runs in and mows it down just as fast regardless. Or getting their BB targets headshoted twice as fast.

[jovial juniper]

Seems like you're looking for Gunker

Aka gun psyker

Which doesn't essentially need a gun

Could opt for the VoidSTRIKE staff

It's basically right side of the tree

You get to hit a lot of critical hits while buffing critical/weakspot damage

[quick crystal]

Ah. The thing is, psykers in havoc are loved for 1 main reason only basically. And it's that sweet bubble of safety. I need to invest in CD (which is left tree side) to spam it

[jovial juniper]

So bubble knight

Melee psyker with Force Greatsword and Bubble

Although I don't agree with Psyker bubble bot on havoc

Feels like gimping yourself, you know

But hey

https://tenor.com/view/fist-of-the-north-star-hokuto-no-ken-hey-as-long-as-it-works-as-long-as-it-works-winging-it-gif-5037582307183355084

[quick crystal]

Gimping? If not the bubble might as well take other class in havoc

Im pretty convinced t this point, that after 25-30 havoc the fun basically has to end if you want to progress and you have to take what's useful for all

[strong gulch]

Inferno bubble is meta in havocs for a reason, but yes bubble gimps your personal damage. Shriek (creeping flames assumed) just casually double your damage.

No H40 is goofy times.

Everyone either locks in or does memes.

Bubble is not absolutely needed but it does help with survivability.

[mighty fractal]

Well, you do have the most passive damage in the game with purgatus and trauma

sorry, INFERNO and VOIDBLAST now

You are basically a bubblebot though

[quick crystal]

Prob those who have reached the rank can afford to have some fun. Those that still aim for it take it more seriously

[mighty fractal]

I'll never get over those name changes lol

Yeah havoc progression is really wacky since all it takes is one bugged Ritual spawn to end an entire run, etc.

Also hell yeah Mushishi pfp

Voidblast is great when you don't have Final Toll in the map, at which point it's basically inferno or bust

I'd say VoC on vet and Chorus on Zealot are more 'required' for their respective classes than bubble is on psyker, though that's more because the alternatives don't bring much to the table at all (outside of boss nuke bonk builds on zealot with hammer + Fury/Stealth)

Wins with Shriek are not entirely a myth

but bubble is a huge boon for your team's positioning

Also man what is with these h40 lobbies that sit in party finder for like 30 minutes but turn down clearance 40s

[severe folio]

maybe the clearance expire

cuz they are all afk

after 30 min

[quick crystal]

I dont mind just spamming bubbles and CC'ing like a bot for a while. Need a break from zealot and havoc mode lacks psykers the most. Probably cuz their the squishiest. Seen a poor guy chased by a few crushers for like 2 minutes after getting seperated yesterday.

[mighty fractal]

Yeah I'm fine with going bubblebot since I like the playstyle

I imagine people who want to play the other two ults are not as happy, though

same with how everyone just sighs whenever they play zealot, because they're going to be a biblebot for the next 40 minutes

when the most fun zealot gameplay is charging at shit and destroying it. But that doesn't provide nearly as much support as a pulsing invuln + stagger that also gives gold armor. Like I have no idea if/how FS is going to bring the other zealot and vet ults up to speed without giving them tons of tools

or maybe they'll just say "H40 isn't representative of 'normal' play, and is meant for the true achievers. So we're fine with the H40 meta being strict."

[quick crystal]

It's like that with 80% of the stuff in havoc probably. Regardless how fun a weapon or a build is, it's usually not as useful overall. And potency is needed to succeed

[mighty fractal]

Ogryn and Arb have a lot more freedom with their weapon and ult choices because the classes are generally strong/flexible, at least

I do like how vet smoke nades have gotten a new lease on life in havoc, though

People finally realized that turning off swarms of shooters is actually very strong

On a similar note, I've run into multiple Scrier psykers in h40 tonight

I'm willing to let it rock

[viscid matrix]

Having a meta in havok is good

everything works in auric, and people just play whatever they want there instead

[jovial juniper]

Well
Fury of the faithful is already loaded as shit, FS has to bring Chorus and Shroudfield up

[quick crystal]

I dont have Arb yet, but poor slab has only half the arsenal to choose from compared to others. Half of it is rather similar too.

[static sonnet]

Does Electro staff charge attack have bonus crit chance or something?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Critical Bonus stat

Recently a regular here did some diving about it

@/fearfulofsevenius

[quick crystal]

I feel like Arb's main usefulness is the dog. Arb is tanky, sure, but doesn't really have other tide changing mechanics like ogryn's big boom

[mighty fractal]

It is super loaded, though the 'problem' is that the team support Chorus provides in Havoc is way too good not to bring most of the time

[jovial juniper]

Yes
Dog is the best part

It's pretty mid without it

[mighty fractal]

Arb has generally overtuned (read: properly tuned for H40) weapons, dog, and shock mines

shock mines and shock dog are probably the strongest things about the class, though it has good mobility and general tankiness too

[zealous wing]

cant forget the actual invuln button

[mighty fractal]

Shock mines are insanely good for clutching, though, so long as you space them out properly throughout a mission

Feel like they're going to get the biggest nerf out of anything in arb's kit

[jovial juniper]

[mighty fractal]

Stance is really strong too yeah

though charge is the most flexible and lets you kite/clutch

[zealous wing]

how long do you reckon until they even realise they fucked up with the balancing and actually FIX it? my money is on, whenever the sales for arby slow down enough

[jovial juniper]

Yeah that's standard practice

They also kept 2 keystones half working for a whole month

So add another month on top of that

To compensate, you know

[zealous wing]

enough people buy it, get to a point of no refunds, then boom, nerf, and they keep the money while the arby's with no actual game knowledge flounder and probably ragecry

imo it's better to buff something over time to what you want than introduce a broken overpowered robocop then nerf it. people got a taste of power they could have if they had skill, its gonna wreck some people

[deft stump]

Problem is with DLC is if you played the game for more than 2 hours, refunding anything is a nightmare unless you refund within 2 weeks of release.

And this assumes you also played less than 2 hours from it.

[zealous wing]

a nightmare still means possibility

they'd want as little risk as possible

[deft stump]

Begging support for a kind one time, yes.

[mighty fractal]

A meta is fine, it's just that Ogryn and Arb get to mix and match while the other three don't that's kinda fucked up

[zealous wing]

to give some fairness to ogryn though they only have what 12 total weapons to choose from, melee and range included?

[deft stump]

Even then. Their numbers are on the overtuned side.

Heck, pathing oggy for the worst possible build is the hardest bit.

[mighty fractal]

Oggy is just really hard to balance

its numbers almost kinda need to be overtuned to make up for how clunky it is to play

It's either been great or doodoo for the game's entire lifespan

[deft stump]

Yeah, but pretty sure not 400% bonus overtuned lvl.

For just doing nothing but swing.

[zealous wing]

but ogryn big and strong :(

nah it does feel like they are a bit TOO good sometimes, but, when i play a non BK build, its nice to have a good ogryn

[mighty fractal]

True, but that honestly might be mroe of a bullyclub mk3 thing

That shit is way too safe for how much stagger and damage it puts out

the pickaxes feel more in line with how the class is designed imo

[deft stump]

And they still have pretty decent ranged bp on a full on melee build.

If you can deal with heavy stub.

Refuse to talk about rumbler.

That thing straight up needs a fix.

[zealous wing]

you just reminded me to change bigger box of hurt for big friendly rock for sniping

[mighty fractal]

it's so funny to me how people thought rumbler was bad until havoc

[radiant frigate]

rumbler is good?

[mighty fractal]

yes

very

easy safe aoe stagger, especially if a vet feeds you ammo

[deft stump]

AoE brittle, AoE CC, AoE burn and maybe bleed.

[radiant frigate]

is that the grenade launcher with like 20 shots

[mighty fractal]

It doesn't apply aoe brittle

but it does do everything else

Yeah

[jovial juniper]

Yup

[deft stump]

It does.

It's bugged.

[mighty fractal]

The brittle only applies to the direct grenade hit

Unless it's bugged

[radiant frigate]

ah okay

[mighty fractal]

Ahh

[deft stump]

Instead of direct hits apply brittle...

The explosion also does.

[mighty fractal]

How long has that been a thing

[radiant frigate]

i dismissed it because i prefer my ranged weapons ranged

[mighty fractal]

because only the direct hit applied brittle for the longest time

[deft stump]

Yes, it stacks with the nodes that make it bigger.

[jovial juniper]

Missing out
Truly

I wish Grenadier Gauntlet was better though

[deft stump]

All I know is it's been broken since the rework.

[mighty fractal]

Okay maybe that's when it broke then

I took a break around then and came back with the arbites update

[radiant frigate]

if i play ogryn again it will be stubber sorry

[deft stump]

And yes, no fixes yet.

[jovial juniper]

Heavy Stubber
Twinkle twinkle big Stubber

Which one

😭

[radiant frigate]

the correct one

[jovial juniper]

Brrrrrrrrrrr

[radiant frigate]

(heavy stubber)

[zealous wing]

the rock was the best decision ive ever made

them fuckers go FLYING

[deft stump]

You mean funny.

[jovial juniper]

I still don't know what to do with the Hstubber that isn't the Achlys

Achlys Hstubber is just that good

[severe folio]

wouldnt it be nice if electric staff full charge a gurantee crit

[jovial juniper]

Give that to VoidSTRIKE since it has the slowest charge

[radiant frigate]

is it The Fast One

[radiant frigate]

could make it a blessing to replace nexus

or could bake it into surge and witness the warp flurry meta unfold

[jovial juniper]

As a Hstubber is the slowest but hits really hard on criticals and weakspots, basically Ogryns Vigilant Autogun

As a Twinkle, it's the really fast peashooter

[radiant frigate]

this is why i thought the hstubber of the same name would also be The Fast One

[jovial juniper]

Get Fatshark'd lol

[neat orchid]

tanky Psker builds?

[jovial juniper]

All of them

Just don't get hit

Anyways it's all about keeping your toughness maxed out

Dodge

Soulstealer

Quietude

Mettle

Sanctuary

One With The Warp

The small toughness nodes that you'll pick on every build

The small tdr nodes that you'll pick every build

Empathic Evasion

Oh and dodge

[zealous wing]

kinetic deflection

[static sonnet]

3 toughness curio

[jovial juniper]

True

[summer nebula]

i just started this game today, so far what i like is the blazing force greatsword, plus the bolter pistol because i miss my space marines

[zealous wing]

kinetic deflection will let you block indefinitely if you know how to manage dodging and peril to go back to blocking quick enough

[jovial juniper]

Fuck it, infinite dclaw parry

[zealous wing]

hmmm bubbleknight in the making perhaps?

[jovial juniper]

[zealous wing]

generally bubbleknight is with vraks or reconlas but i believe bistol was also on the menu for that, right?

[radiant frigate]

if you like bistol sure

[summer nebula]

bistol

[jovial juniper]

I mean sure
Puncture interactions shenanigans thingamajig

[radiant frigate]

firm believer that reconlas is BiS though

[obtuse dome]

Dont be the 5000000th rumbler ogryn please

[zealous wing]

if i get my hands on a combat stim, yeah reconlas SHREDS monstrosities

i usually only go through a single clip, if that, and if i run a little short the burning finishes them off or someone elses stab does

[radiant frigate]

shred or not it's reliable and only takes very little time to apply its max burn

[zealous wing]

ye

[radiant frigate]

plus full refresh on toughness via mettle if you hold down the trigger for like a second

[zealous wing]

ye its lovely

thinking about a KF/SG gunker build now... that might be fun

useful? possibly not very, but fun, at the very least

bosskiller

bro nah the reaper fucking MELTED

like, 5 shots in and he just gone

yeah this could definitely be fun. or end in tragedy. or both

[deft stump]

Tragicomedy?

[zealous wing]

yes, most likely

i imagine what i just threw together isnt terribly far off from a build that already exists and is used well, so i mean, no harm in a lil fun if it works in the end, right?

i just gotta remember i have no bubble, but i do have deflector

wait

when did they

I CAN HAVE MORE THAN 5 NOW!?

HELL YEAH

looks like they match it to the number of characters you can have

this makes me happy, i no longer have to worry about limiting myself to 4 real builds and 1 fuck around build

[jovial juniper]

When Arby's released

8 loadouts

8 character slots

8 in coherency

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[ornate hamlet]

Wait,we have loadouts?

[zealous wing]

alright first heresy test run, not ideal, i didnt use SG much, kept trying to use assail when i needed to reload but still had stuff to kill / dmg to do

but, i didnt die :D

only got one PO to test on but there were two ogryns there as well so, while the thing died in like 5 seconds, hard to gauge if it was me or them that did the most dmg

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-bar-gif-4298875606784040546

[ornate hamlet]

@deft stump excuse moa if i am just finding out about loadouts,that facepalm emoji was unnecessary

[zealous wing]

no its necessary

[ornate hamlet]

Ima slap you @zealous wing

[zealous wing]

mhm

loadouts are up here, hit the +

rightclick to change icon or delete it

you can change cosmetics, weapons, talents, curios

[ornate hamlet]

I am on console

[zealous wing]

idk then whatever secondary fire is? fuck if i know

[ornate hamlet]

[zealous wing]

be left trigger, no?

[wind wind]

He looks like an anime side character lmao

[zealous wing]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

Edge code vein/god eater side char

[zealous wing]

this is my bubbleknight

this one is for "im gonna murder everyone i can get my sights on" SG/KF whateverthefuckimdoing

other than BK they're sorta colourcoded

well i guess inferno is just desert dweller vibe

anime side character tho does fit most of them if they have FGS

[wind wind]

The purple is nice.

[zealous wing]

it is, i like it

keeping my eye out for a better head cosmetic tho

the hat would be nice if the veil wasnt red

[ornate hamlet]

Where is the hobo one in front of your 7/11 shop?

[zealous wing]

dont have one

tho tbh i very well might switch the red armour to BK at some point

well, the black and red one

i do like it

[wind wind]

Is there even purple headgear? Me dont think so

[zealous wing]

not that i could find

a smaller hood would work, anything brown like the leather, black, grey, etc would also work, neutral stuff

[wind wind]

So ironically zealot would have what youre lack

[zealous wing]

yeah exactly.

i see them all the time and im like

because this hood type just wont cut it

now if it was matching, it could work, but it would HAVE to match both the brown and the purple

[deft stump]

Hit right thumbstick.

[ornate hamlet]

Later

[deft stump]

Or special atk.

[ornate hamlet]

That laspistol special attack is something

[deft stump]

Is for making a new loadout.

Hit Y to swap between them.

[zealous wing]

oh yay another hotfix

place your bets folks

[wind wind]

Yeah, true

[wind wind]

It can reliably stagger dogs and push bursters away

I like it

[wind wind]

This karking Game....

[ornate hamlet]

Exactly 😂,its like gravity itself is your ally

[deft stump]

Did they fix the, you crashed because game decided to use combatsword pic on a combataxe?

[zealous wing]

this is a crashing fix for mission transitions i think

like, from mission to mourningstar

and, thats it

thats the only note

[glacial vapor]

They changed a blessing description too

Except it hasn't actually changed, so the description is now wrong

[zealous wing]

well the only note that matters, the blessing desc isnt affecting anything rn they plan to add it later on

[jovial juniper]

Hold on

[zealous wing]

yeah

[jovial juniper]

It's not Thursday/Tuesday

[zealous wing]

tis monday

[jovial juniper]

Also holy shit

Future buff to Superiority

Holy fucking shit

[nocturne dust]

Psyker seeing the future

[jovial juniper]

It might be fucking huge

Really high uptime

And like

Only 2.5 less than Slaughterer

Is slaughterer 40

[radiant frigate]

Yes

what if slaughterer superiority

[jovial juniper]

You're thinking too much

(literally one of the combos I'll run on Illisi)

Infinite supply of Superiority

77% power on Illisi

[glacial vapor]

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[jovial juniper]

30+ cleave on Empowered Heavy with Warp Splitting

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-black-guy-eating-food-black-guy-eating-food-looking-impressed-gif-10889211068283790390

Heh path is going to love this future psyker buff

It's also slightly better at everything compared to Slaughterer Uncanny
Except against carapace

[halcyon plover]

The description of the “Superiority” Blaze Force Sword blessing was updated to also include Specialist enemies. This is a change that will be fully introduced in a future update, so for now there will not be any effect in active gameplay.

kek

why put this in before actually updating it

that will actually make the superiority blessing so much better though

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rainbow-incompetence-gif-12280385594835876792

[zealous wing]

i am beginning to think they write blessings incorrectly on purpose now

[halcyon plover]

they just did

[zealous wing]

i mean, all of them

like the one thats like +5 strength based on peril, is completely missing the part about "stacks every 20 peril" part

so instead of 25 strength at 100 peril, one would think its 5 strength at 100 peril, 2.5 at 50, etc

[radiant frigate]

thrust gives up to 20% power based on charge time! stacking up to 3 times!
is this 20% total or 3 stacks of 20% each?
wouldn't you like to know!

[jovial juniper]

Nothing beats optimized cooling

[radiant frigate]

does that mean it goes faster at low heat or high heat

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[jovial juniper]

It reduces the amount of heat generated on continuous shots

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[radiant frigate]

it what

fatshark, i mean this in the nicest way possible
what the actual fuck

[zealous wing]

"with all due respect, which is none"

[jovial juniper]

Plasma is just a weird weapon

[glacial vapor]

I know fatshark intentionally keep things vague to reduce min/maxing (lol) but it just gets silly at times

Ogryns crunch node still doesn't reflect what it does at all

[ornate hamlet]

Plasma is the best wep

[zealous wing]

there's vague, and then there's lies

[jovial juniper]

"up to 15% dama....."

10% damage
Stacks 4 times

[zealous wing]

and the penances too, deal 50 dmg to a monstrosity with brain burst

its SUPPOSED to be 50%, but, some dumbass forgot the % and its not been fixed for HOW long?

[jovial juniper]

Crunch do be 2 stacks of Thrust

Sheesh

[wraith sphinx]

wohoo time to repatch my game again!

thanks fattykark

[radiant frigate]

once more
what the actual fuck

[zealous wing]

again, lies

instead of preventing minmaxing, they've made it so people unaware of how fucked up it all is will fail to make a good build most likely, and others will come here and learn the truth anyway

so instead of publicly available minmaxing you have a community of minmaxers

and, absolute minmaxers at that

[dusk timber]

Theyre still trying to find that %

[glacial vapor]

Or people look up builds and copy those exclusivly because they haven't a clue

[jovial juniper]

The whole weapon is charge based

You can't use Charge because people will think it's about using M2

You know

Charging the weapon

[jovial juniper]

Isn't Powersword P1 just power sword

[summer prairie]

yes, it might have been a placeholder text though

but maybe it's just a skin

I think power falchion model has been a thing for ages

[jovial juniper]

With 2 names.... so yeah I see

[dusk timber]

Whats that