Meleekers before the psyker tree expansion and several other changes were so abyssmally bad, but people kept telling me it was completely fine 
#psyker-class
nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
I can in a bit if you're still playing.
sturdy reef
sure
plucky flax
Anticipation
sturdy reef
^
plucky flax
Good talent for bubble knight
tulip kettle
i am actually losing it
i thought anticipation is what gave me 4
turns out i just turned anticipation off
i am such garbage at this game
plucky flax
I dont usually run it and Im fine
You're pro me noob 
modest perch
is dropping 1 with the warp to take anticipation worth it ?
tulip kettle
i mean that surely is subjective
tulip kettle
OWtW is generally pretty good
modest perch
yea its scriers bfgs trauma
tulip kettle
with 100 toughness (most H40 builds with 3 x17% tough) its slightly better than an additional 15 toughness node assuming averaging 60 peril
meanwhile anticipation is an extra dodge
modest perch
i rarely bring psyker to havoc
ripe obsidian
with 100 toughness (most H40 builds with 3 x17% tough) its slightly better than ...
Less
modest perch
that slot is usually occupied by a far superior witch anyways
ripe obsidian
I can do the math. Hold on.
plucky flax
i rarely bring psyker to havoc
Tru it's so bad
tulip kettle
right but dodge linger duration is a really weird stat that is hard to quantify
modest perch
no lol im just bad
strong gulch
We should sent Six an abacus.
tulip kettle
i find OWtW is good for not dying to getting caught out by a gunner, its got a lot more value against shooting
and if i get hit twice in a row in melee im probably going down anyway
so - anticipation if you die to melee, OWtW if you die to shooting
modest perch
im gonna try it cus i wanna use the bfgs as much as possible
strong gulch
I do +15 toughness and not think about the gambling and have one fewer things to worry about in terms of high peril.
I also do a stam and x2 toughness.
Hmm, auric builds tend to be a lil different tho. But I hate all of the switching.
sturdy reef
Im gonna make six do the cursed build
strong gulch
I wish curios could actually be organized. Like the names mattered or something.
ripe obsidian
with 100 toughness (most H40 builds with 3 x17% tough) its slightly better than ...
With 100 base toughness, 3x 5% TDR nodes, and +66% toughness, a +15 node is ~25 bonus toughness and ~146 effective toughness.
With OwtW and 100 base toughness, you need OwtW to be ~17.3% TDR to surpass 146 effective toughness. This is about 32% peril.
strong gulch
Also we should be able to buy them like weapons.
modest perch
for a while i was trying to get enough curios so they could be thematically organized by build
like all blessed bullets for gunker/gungryn
tulip kettle
With 100 base toughness, 3x 5% TDR nodes, and +66% toughness, a +15 node is ~25 ...
thank you
i know you have done the leg work on this
ultimately the way i look at it these days is, in H40 getting hit in melee is pretty likely to down me if i dont have full toughness or very close to it when i get hit
but its giving full value for the whole bar to shooting
so OWtW is shooter / gunner protection and anticipation is melee protection
sturdy reef
I run EE for shooters
tulip kettle
plus anticipation comes with the +5% ranged dmg "tax" so is good for bubble knight
and yeah likewise
but EE betrays you all the time
just like KF -.-
strong gulch
Just let us crit all of the time non stop game.
tulip kettle
or like, dont be rng
sturdy reef
when H40
strong gulch
don't make us stop being lucky
sturdy reef
I have a painful magistrati
tulip kettle
if i have 40% crit chance and i havent procced a crit for the past 5 ranged attacks that just feels bad
i know thats how randomness works but it still sucks
ripe obsidian
I run EE for shooters
I get between 25 and 30% combat uptime with EE when I have ~40% crit on my Inferno stick
tulip kettle
yeah and most of that uptime is when youre burning poxwalkers who cant even shoot at you
sturdy reef
are you charging the R click to the minimum?
ripe obsidian
Also I am pretty positive my fix for the uptime mod is working correctly
tulip kettle
meanwhile the moment you try to push the gunner blob EE says "no"
heres 5 solid seconds of no crits
strong gulch
It's not just the randomness tho. It's also "you're too lucky so now you get less chance to crit until you stop being so lucky for a moment".
sturdy reef
ready? @ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
I am logging in
sturdy reef
ne one else down for an H40?
ripe obsidian
I am loggèd in.
strong gulch
am busy 😭
sturdy reef
rip
tulip kettle
im doing responsible adult stuff rn, but if you havent done it in an hour or so ill join
tulip kettle
nah youll just do it now, six will get you through it
plucky flax
ne one else down for an H40?
Its too early man I need to jog
marble crater
sinful peak
whats our best boss damage apart from raking fire vraks
marble crater
Other guns
modest perch
las pistol
marble crater
Reconlas with infernus
If you don't mean guns, then either melee, or applying soulblaze with inferno and then stack uncanny strike, or soulblaze and then use brain burst, EK is also okay
sinful peak
Reconlas with infernus
If you don't mean guns, then either melee, or applying so...
which mark
marble crater
I use the 12
modest perch
bfgs stab
wind wind
whats our best boss damage apart from raking fire vraks
Use smite to clear the back of the rumblergryn
modest perch
use smite to clear the front of the hammer zealot
sinful peak
and watch them miss 
modest perch
wind wind
use smite to clear the front of the hammer zealot
They died 3 hordes ago because they never figured out how to deal with mixed hordes
modest perch
gray juniper
Shiiiiit
Playing thunder martyr zealot feels like a guy hauling a missile launcher. It all burdensome until the need arises then it makes the day a cakewalk
hearty wolf
It's true. The issue is if there's an Arb or Ogryn. They're also him 😭
Captains get REKT though provided you can actually hit them
marble crater
Playing zealot in 2025?
deft stump
I had a horrible dream. There was a smyker... and someone saying that we had horde clear and referred to said smyker.
marble crater
Sad
wind wind
Playing zealot in 2025?
plucky flax
I had a horrible dream. There was a smyker... and someone saying that we had hor...
Sry was me
tulip kettle
special event was suddenly easy when i remembered walls exist
plucky flax
Okay I just diedto ledge again.
This is impossible.
Now team probably gonna wipe.
Why am I dying to ledge every game 
plucky flax
The last guy alive left game rather than trying to clutch.
Real arby player mentality.
deft stump
Real arby player mentality.
That's the player though.
tulip kettle
also unironically just walls and smite for the bursters negates the event (ethical smiting only) (and dont run off the edge)
summer prairie
I'm going to run off
tulip kettle
so, radio operator enemy
have we ever seen them in actual game?
maybe i missed an event with them or something?
and, why do the bursters in this event explode when you smite push them but normal ones dont?
hollow current
so, radio operator enemy
yeah they were around for a lil bit.
they spawned special waves
tulip kettle
yeah i have only ever seen it in psykanium never in the game
and also i was lying about poxbursters, they are just janky af with smite it seems
why does the last one explode
modest perch
theyve been janky af
plucky flax
That's the player though.
No it's the class.
Only weak sauce play that OP class. 
Real men play psyker and die to 1 hit.
deft stump
Real men play psyker and die to 1 hit.
Men?
plucky flax
Real people* 
hollow current
Real men play psyker and die to 1 hit.
Men?
tulip kettle
there are no women on the internet
plucky flax
tulip kettle
only men and men pretending to be women
deft stump
only men and men pretending to be women
I suppose you want to be shot.
plucky flax
only men and men pretending to be women
I can confirm.
plucky flax
This lined up pretty well but somehow it wasn't me with last hit.
deft stump
This is both Gaslight and Gatekeep mains.
plucky flax
Casting big sword wave and pressing f at the same time 👌
marble crater
This is both Gaslight and Gatekeep mains.
No it's not
plucky flax
Normal unsanctioned behaviour. Ledge
hollow current
wut da arb doin
getting schplonky with it
tulip kettle
@deft stump btw its a timeless internet joke, not serious. If anything its a compliment to women, saying they arent insane enough to be degenerates online
plucky flax
Extremely bad railing work around teritum.
How do they just have massive holes in rails.
deft stump
<@229302123391614976> btw its a timeless internet joke, not serious. If anything...
I know. Still. 
marble crater
How do they just have massive holes in rails. <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
Ogryns dodged into them
marble crater
I know. Still. <:Eula_Stare:825800593591238656>
tulip kettle
safety inspectors all got poxwalkered i guess
upper sun
<@658194473314156565>
dude i barreled myself yesterday
i tried to clear the barrels before we started the event but i missed one barrel
upper sun
Too much mass destroying all these safety features.
we need to buff zealot, vet, and psyker so i can clutch with them like ogryn and arby
hearty wolf
Clad clutch?
upper sun
Clad clutch?
have u been sleeping? powercreep so bad i can almost reliably clutch now 
plucky flax
Still not seen a clutch from you
upper sun
Still not seen a clutch from you
i play worse with u because i know you can carry and i can turn off my brain
hearty wolf
I need video evidence
tulip kettle
haha, yeah, me too
im not totally trying to hold it together and not embarass myself infront of the GOAT
upper sun
I need video evidence
🚬 give me 30 minutes
summer prairie
this guy got downed 10 times in the event
tulip kettle
this guy got downed 10 times in the event
sry it was me
oak echo
What are the normal size force swords good for?
tulip kettle
What are the normal size force swords good for?
making you wish it was bigger
deft stump
i play worse with u because i know you can carry and i can turn off my brain
Uhhh, then explain the times you do with me when I couldn't really play?
marble crater
Killing heretics with better mobility than the big one and having access to deflector
tulip kettle
and uncanny tbh
oak echo
The force swords just feel like worse chainswords
upper sun
@hearty wolf@tulip kettle does this count? im too lazy to upload the video
upper sun
Uhhh, then explain the times you do with me when I couldn't really play?
i wasnt playing OP classes when i played with u
marble crater
<@204065778167840769><@453628860567650304> does this count? im too lazy to uplo...
Gebieter... very German
oak echo
nah you have uncanny + deflector + single target dps on deimos
So the only thing it has against a dueling sword is a funni shield?
deft stump
i wasnt playing OP classes when i played with u
Oh yeah, Clad can't zealot.
upper sun
Gebieter... very German
germans and french people love dt for some reason
oak echo
Can its push at least stagger specialists like the fgs does?
tulip kettle
So the only thing it has against a dueling sword is a funni shield?
yes
sorry, yes to your second thing
marble crater
germans and french people love dt for some reason
Reminds us of the goold old days
oak echo
I think I'll stick to the big sword that has no business being wielded by a scrawny psyker
marble crater
and you can stroke it
tulip kettle
and "funni shield" is kind of selling deflector short, deflector + KD is very, very good
titanfall gameplay
absorb all the bullets with your shield then shriek the peril at the enemies
marble crater
Titanfall 3 when?
hearty wolf
<@204065778167840769><@453628860567650304> does this count? im too lazy to uplo...
Idk man. You went through like 1tb of videos
I expect more than some AI generated images 😭
hearty wolf
The force swords just feel like worse chainswords
The heavies on deimos
Cave things heads in
So easily
Stagger value is nuts
oak echo
Faster than the mk6 fgs just spamming heavies on a crusher?
tulip kettle
and illisi gives access to uncanny on a weapon with passable horde clear also, though i dont really see why you would need it
hearty wolf
Burgles HATE this one simple trick
tulip kettle
yes
oak echo
I'm being spoiled to shit with the heavy poke
tulip kettle
and youre forgetting the most important thing
for "the feels"
how can be space wizard if not magic sword
oak echo
how can be space wizard if not magic sword
Counterpoint: Bigger magic sword
tulip kettle
bigly sword very fun and good
marble crater
Today is veteran day
When is psyker day?
hearty wolf
When is psyker day?
I've been playing Psyker a lot recently
marble crater
lvl 30 yet?
marble crater
smh
tulip kettle
But no one wants to play with me anymore
because you big thief
soulblaze stealer
please sir, just a crumb of damage
marble crater
also toxic
tulip kettle
i have a family and kids to support
hearty wolf
I don't steal soulblaze, I am the soulblaze 🔥
plucky flax
sry it was me
no it was me
tulip kettle
i dont think you could find 10 ledges to fall off
tulip kettle
where do i donate to the legal fund for your defence
hearty wolf
Clad's defence better be as solid as the bulwarks' he has lost 1v1s to 😭
upper sun
thats not true
i never engage bulwarks i just leave
what are they gonna do? they dont a distance based run speed like crushers
hearty wolf
"You have failed the emperor!"
upper sun
bulwarks have never lead to a defeat on arby for me
only deaths are me barreling myself after spamming grenades
hearty wolf
Weakest Arb dog:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qt3rCVxis5I?feature=share
hearty wolf
He was asking for help but my back was already breaking from carrying you 😭
tulip kettle
hearty wolf
Running Mortis. Do we think EP BB or EP Assail would be better for it?
I reckon EP BB for flayer methinks
Also better pathing
tulip kettle
BB is funny times in mortis
i dont know if the "bb 10 enemies" indulgence counts as 10 uses of EP but if it does that would be pretty cool
though i think, and i hate to say it
smite is the way to do this
fading patrol
Running Mortis. Do we think EP BB or EP Assail would be better for it?
Hunting ground?
tulip kettle
oh its 100% shit
but you can EP MM smite a shotgun pack and get 12 at once in seconds
hearty wolf
mm
tulip kettle
mal momentum
hearty wolf
Oh I was just making a sound
tulip kettle
XD
summer prairie
had to duo hi shock event refinery with some random arbi with no havoc level and 14% toughness curios, very balanced class
deft stump
i dont think you could find 10 ledges to fall off
Where, "Top 10 ledges to fall off from"?
tulip kettle
next agentchaos video confirmed
summer prairie
he only died once
tulip kettle
it is actually so stupid
i get such catharsis when the arb runs off solo goes down and leaves
summer prairie
he was running stamina, block cost and the defensive blessing on his shield
tulip kettle
white valley
hearty wolf
Guess I can't redinw
refine
sick 1
What ranged wep are we preferring with this?
plucky flax
Use bm it's better.
plucky flax
You horde clear so much faster with bm.
I even tried sunder with mk3 and spam heavies.
It's just shit.
Maybe it's okay in auric I dunno.
hearty wolf
Is true, I don't find myself using the heavies very much on mk6
Does the er
Chained hits have infinite cleave or somethin though
hearty wolf
I meant special action
plucky flax
Just big cleave.
hearty wolf
And I looked at the thing he posted and it says pick between sunder or BM
plucky flax
Like 10+
tulip kettle
Bath seemed to imply that sunder was better than BM in havoc but BM better in auric. Something about the increased cleave on lights from sunder being better for blending rager packs and stuff as the breakpoints for killing stuff and getting value from BM is worse in havoc
mighty agate
Anyone have maybe build for electro staff but focusing on primary? (Shooting BALLS)
tulip kettle
i wouldnt know either way obviusly
tulip kettle
Anyone have maybe build for electro staff but focusing on primary? (Shooting BAL...
spend the last 2 points where you want
warp nexus and surge on the staff
mighty agate
Thank you, Sibling
summer prairie
sunder sounds better to me, you'll still spam special lights
tulip kettle
could also take kinetic presence instead of presience to free up another point
plucky flax
Bath seemed to imply that sunder was better than BM in havoc but BM better in au...
I tested it in havoc though and bm won for me. If you kill a chaff then 4 die minimum with bm.
tulip kettle
i believe you, i literally have no idea just parroting what bath seemed to be saying
plucky flax
You can cleave more and stagger more with sunder but they don't die as much.
mighty agate
warp nexus and surge on the staff
Last question, on electrostaff i should go like in purge staff for the lowest possible warp resistance or leave it on 60%?
summer prairie
what about mixed hordes though
tulip kettle
Last question, on electrostaff i should go like in purge staff for the lowest po...
higher better
tbh i would consider dumping quell speed
you have solidity and shriek
plucky flax
If you can target the elite get the last hit it's good.
Elites are taller though so easy to just hit their heads.
hearty wolf
Jesus christ this is hard xd
mighty agate
Electro without crit bonus
Meme award
zealous wing
<@658194473314156565>
SOMEONE WAS USING TRAUMA
so THATS what fucking got me
this event went from amusing to very not fun so fucking quick
tulip kettle
"what is that fizzing noise next to me? im sure its nothing"
zealous wing
"what is that fizzing noise next to me? im sure its nothing"
no i started moving pretty quick, that barrel did not reach its full timer
was trying to make sure i didnt jump into a moshpit 😭
tulip kettle
the mistake you made was existing in the event you see
zealous wing
in the clip you can even see me sidestep away
i was literally ABOUT to be safe and someone went "hey a lit barrel let me clear that"
pixels from the edge :(
never again
if someone needs the event done, im not going higher than malice, if at all
zinc phoenix
no i started moving pretty quick, that barrel did not reach its full timer
Shoot barrels before standing somewhere in gloriana
tulip kettle
if someone needs the event done, im not going higher than malice, if at all
just use my super ethical event build
zinc phoenix
Getting ledged out by a pogry or spawn on that map happens sometimes, getting ledged by a barrel is just poor prep
zealous wing
im just not gonna do the event anymore really
the extra power behind the explosions isnt great
hearty wolf
Alright that's enough Vet for me
tulip kettle
not enjoying?
marble crater
He ran out of stamina to play vet
hearty wolf
to get baack
tulip kettle
ive really been enjoying taxe weapon specialist bistol frags vet
no need for stamina
tulip kettle
i played one game with it and said never again
first the charge
then the push attack
on asthma class
no. thank. you.
hearty wolf
The charge takes getting used to and if you miss a block cancel
You just lose so much stamina to make up for your mistake
and you can't dodghe
or that stops stamina regen
so you need to keep swinging and hope you hit everything or something
or stay perma 0 stamina
and if 0 stamina, no push attack
frozen fiber
does the extra crit rate help out soul blaze on enemies?
static sonnet
Soulblaze can't crit and you lose the buff when you swap weapons that's why
tulip kettle
soulblaze stacks do get the rending from uncanny though
you go from around 40 dmg per tick at 15 stacks of soulblaze on a crusher to over 300
frozen fiber
ty, been running uncanny on my vets dueling sword and htought maybe i should be running it on my psyker
static sonnet
soulblaze stacks do get the rending from uncanny though
Yeah which is crazy to me lol
tulip kettle
same works with bleed and normal burning
but, both of those DoTs drop off much quicker after the last application than soulblaze
SB will tick 10 times before the stacks start to degrade at 1 stack per tick
bleed starts to degrade after 1 single tick
fiery stratus
plucky flax
Cursed speed up version of my fav song 
hard widget
tulip kettle
Staff that shoots the laser grid from resident evil
Voidstrike but I don't have to click on heads
tulip kettle
we have bowling balls staff
buoyant maple
What ranged wep are we preferring with this?
Plasma
buoyant maple
And I looked at the thing he posted and it says pick between sunder or BM
Sunder pulls ahead when enemies have high enough health that it takes >2 hits to kill them with BM
So it eventually goes like
Do u want to kill bruisers significantly better
Or do u want to kill elites significantly better
hearty wolf
I see
I think I'll need a lot of practise with it either way. It feels really, really hard to play
I feel scared of poxwalkers xd
buoyant maple
I see
For example in havoc ragers have 3k health
U might need 4 energized light attacks (all weakspot hits) to kill a single one if u roll unlucky on crit
And the direct result is that BM straight up isn’t participating here
So it becomes immediately clear that being able to stagger up to 11 of them (dreg rager) or 5 of them (scab rager) is much better
hearty wolf
The energised hit stuns?
buoyant maple
Didn’t I send the major stagger breakpoints in the clip
hearty wolf
One sec
hearty wolf
Oh right - this confused me.
So in the first column where it mentions Light 1, 2 and 3, it has (E) in brackets next to it.
Then below it says 7, but E=8.
buoyant maple
Yes
Light 1, 2 and 3 have base cleave of 3.2~3.6 depending on cleave targets stat 60~80%
And all have the same stagger vs all armor types
Optimal is 60% cleave targets because the cleave difference is minuscule and doesn’t matter ever
frail osprey
Respect to the power of gun psykers. Absolute destructive in the field.
buoyant maple
(E) means the energized version of that attack
buoyant maple
So if u don’t have the sword energized it can’t stagger anything
But when it is energized it can stagger mauler and both rager
buoyant maple
Mainly because it has stagger reduction = 0
But the actual stagger itself isn’t very high so it can’t do medium stagger on those enemies or stagger ogryns
hearty wolf
That's why we have the horde control combo I see, I see.
What's the damage uplift on the energised attacks? They felt a LOT stronger
not just the cleave either
buoyant maple
What's the damage uplift on the energised attacks? They felt a LOT stronger
Like
Around x6 higher?
lol
hearty wolf
Also how do I read the heavy section of that stagger part.
The heavies have less stagger when it's energised but they also ignore reduction and can stagger ragers and maulers?
hearty wolf
Like
Around x6 higher?
Jesus christ
buoyant maple
Also how do I read the heavy section of that stagger part.
The heavies have les...
Heavy atk base stagger = 8
When energized, heavy atk base stagger = 7 but ignores stagger reduction
This pretty much never matters in practice
Because vs enemies u actually care about staggering they all have massive stagger reduction
Ex: both ragers have 50 vs melee when doing combo atk
When u don’t have stagger reduction ignore, u need to pass through both stagger checks normally
Which is a pretty hard ask from most weapons
With stagger reduction ignore, both stagger checks treat stagger reduction as 0 so it becomes a lot easier to stagger
Just
Keep in mind that this thing is not actually high stagger so it won’t keep ragers staggered for long
U can see it in the 1v4 clip I sent prior
hearty wolf
I see
Now that I see that.
I think my problem is that I was doing the single target combo too often
And that brings my stamina under threat
When I could just control much easier with the sweeps
buoyant maple
It’s a weapon where u have to distinguish between push + attack and push attack
buoyant maple
When I could just control much easier with the sweeps
Yea the single target combo can’t rly stagger anything important lol
buoyant maple
<:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
Also that build I sent is specifically tuned for power sword VI + plasma at the same time
It gets some neat breakpoints with plasma even for havoc (1hs flamer)
hearty wolf
I need to go over how to use plasma again. I was really disliking it for whatever reason
buoyant maple
It’s essentially arb ext8 shotgun but with range and cares about headshots
hearty wolf
Okay, you have inspired me to try again
tulip kettle
sorry to pile on, but what is the use case for plasma? use it against specials and ogryns? i found it pretty underwhelming against ogryn types
hearty wolf
I'll take a quick peek through Vet chat's history to see if I can find what I'm doing wrong with it
tulip kettle
I'll take a quick peek through Vet chat's history to see if I can find what I'm ...
dont do what i did for a while and forget that special lets you vent without reloading -.- quell muscle memory brutal
buoyant maple
sorry to pile on, but what is the use case for plasma? use it against specials a...
Hipfire
Click head at flamers, bombers, trappers, gunners, shotgunners, ragers and reapers
Sniper 1 body shot kill so don’t have to specifically aim for head
tulip kettle
okay so specials and ranged enemies, not ogryn types so much
buoyant maple
It’s not “good” at killing crusher or bulwark
zealous wing
dont do what i did for a while and forget that special lets you vent without rel...
glad im not the only one, i do this when going from EK back to using a gun and am just always reloading, even if ive got 178/180 in the clip
buoyant maple
Not high enough dps + massive ammo waste
Would u rather spend 7 shots to kill a single bulwark through shield
Or kill 7 flamer/bomber/trapper/sniper
hearty wolf
dont do what i did for a while and forget that special lets you vent without rel...
It do damage :(
zealous wing
why would you be shooting the bulwark through its shield
tulip kettle
fair enough, i guess my last question would be, why use it over something like zarona
hearty wolf
Hipfire
Click head at flamers, bombers, trappers, gunners, shotgunners, ragers a...
Ooooo. I was pressing right click
summer prairie
100 cleave is a bit more
tulip kettle
yeah never charge it, i know this
summer prairie
than zarona's
buoyant maple
fair enough, i guess my last question would be, why use it over something like z...
Zarona revolver doesn’t get enough ammo for havoc
And plasma hipfire is much higher cleave
It’s 55.125 for hipfire
In practice ur usually not using the full extent of this cleave
tulip kettle
gotcha, so better performance vs like shotgun packs and stuff
buoyant maple
Zarona does get better breakpoints vs most enemies
tulip kettle
at expense of pull out time vs specials
buoyant maple
But both are crit-headshot dependent for 1 taps in havoc
Also plasma has super cracked stagger
U can actually stagger twins on headshot if they have void shields down
Break rinda’s anime sword combo
Super based
zealous wing
you can also shout them over, if their shield is down, right?
buoyant maple
gotcha, so better performance vs like shotgun packs and stuff
Also saves at least 1 point cuz u don’t need Always Prepared for plasma (pure IQ tax)
Revolver basically always want that subnode for WS, plasma doesn’t
tulip kettle
yeah no worries, ty for the guidance 🙂
still think i will probably stick with taxe zarona shredders
deft stump
Also saves at least 1 point cuz u don’t need Always Prepared for plasma (pure IQ...
Or sheer laziness to learn to reload cancel.
strong gulch
why would you be shooting the bulwark through its shield
Mettle procs for a speed boost and some toughness while you're repositioning.
deft stump
I found out you can also reload cancel flamer...
hearty wolf
Mettle procs for a speed boost and some toughness while you're repositioning.
I didn't know you could use plasma on psyker
wispy bay
You can do that for many weapons, how useful for them is another question.
zealous wing
i am pretty sure we cant
strong gulch
I didn't know you could use plasma on psyker
Just edit the code. Steal it.
zealous wing
plasma is a vet thing
deft stump
You can do that for many weapons, how useful for them is another question.
Well, flamer reload is 2 business days later vs plasma being 3... so...
zealous wing
i have learned how to reload my recon faster, and while sliding, though, so thats pretty cool.
i dont know for sure if its a reload cancel or not, probably is if its the same idea as block cancelling
just need to get it more consistently
jovial juniper
I didn't know you could use plasma on psyker
tulip kettle
I found out you can also reload cancel flamer...
recently i started running quickflame on flamer
with blaze away ofc
huge QoL increase for me
buoyant maple
i have learned how to reload my recon faster, and while sliding, though, so that...
Recon’s reload cancel is super fast
~1s
deft stump
huge QoL increase for me
Just reload cancel, it's after the unscrew and when the number goes from zero to something.
buoyant maple
Sprint cancel when ur character taps the battery pack out and when the new battery pack goes in
tulip kettle
i like to just throw assails to cancel on recon, but im also very bad at the game
zealous wing
maybe 80% of the time i try to do it it works
tulip kettle
zealous wing
sometimes i fumble
deft stump
Sprint cancel when ur character taps the battery pack out and when the new batte...
I actually forgot sprint cancel exist. Was constantly annoyed about wasting WS stack to swap cancel till I needed to sprint while reloading.
zealous wing
my main pattern is slide to start the reload, get up and sprint and slide again to reload
sometimes i have to switch to melee to take care of some annoying dreg
tulip kettle
my main pattern is slide to start the reload, get up and sprint and slide again ...
you were definitely zooming with that recon
zealous wing
i was having SO much fun
zealous wing
why slow down to shoot :p
well, accidentally entering a very bad room is a good reason to slow down
tbh
paper oriole
First game in 3 weeks
get 3 psykers and 1 ogryn
other 2 psykers start the game by shitting on arbites
3 minutes in they get downed and insta leave
me and ogryn stay and continue the game
game never changes
tulip kettle
nah why slow down when mettle + EE
just slide and shoot more (and remember to stop sliding for a sec and press dodge when the overheads come)
zealous wing
oh imagine if we could slide under crushers
that would be fun
"hmm do i dodge this overhead normally or do i risk it"
tulip kettle
like, between their legs?
zealous wing
yeah 
buoyant maple
"hmm do i dodge this overhead normally or do i risk it"
U will down 95% the time even if it was a thing
zealous wing
i did say risk
zealous wing
true, it does depend on corruption levels
buoyant maple
if i eat an overhead im likely to be outright dead <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906...
The other 5% is havoc where u just die outright
tulip kettle
you mean the only games that matter 😓
strong gulch
just slide and shoot more (and remember to stop sliding for a sec and press dodg...
We can dodge overheads?
marble crater
Don't listen to the propaganda, any game you have fun in matters
tulip kettle
ive heard its possible
marble crater
We can dodge overheads?
Some of us can 
tulip kettle
never managed it myself
zealous wing
strong gulch
Some of us can <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
You're thinking of mutants. 😭
tulip kettle
You're thinking of mutants. 😭
those either
zealous wing
i keep forgetting i gotta dodge the overhead, instead of dodging before it actually starts, or staggering them first, or killing them first
or, yknow, dying
marble crater
zealous wing
ill let you guess which one is more common recently
marble crater
@strong gulch
deft stump
ill let you guess which one is more common recently
Blep?
deft stump
Blep.
marble crater
Dodge issue
zealous wing
honestly probably kills but the deaths hit so hard i actually remember them
crusher overheads hurt me irl
deft stump
I use it in replacement for going down in that way.
strong gulch
potato core ngl
deft stump
<:hmmmmm:1272959824019193977>
Just shoot them more yes.
quartz barn
Only 692 smh
tulip kettle
you only EK them atm because you havent got the confidence with deimos that you do with FGS
zealous wing
i used to have it
you also did say FGS wouldve been better paired with EK than deimos, for crowd control / horde clearing
tulip kettle
if you saw how little dmg EK does to the crushers you wouldnt do it 
and yeah i like it because i tend to run SG with EK
so FGS lets me horde clear and bonk crushers
zealous wing
but EK DOES stun them so someone else can safely get in there and kill it
tulip kettle
sounds like smite talk to me.
zealous wing
2 target smite o.o
hearty wolf
Final toll
zealous wing
i have it in my mind dw
we do more auric than havoc anyway
mainly just waiting until the timers out for mine, because i do not enjoy lights out
zealous wing
ye it definitely helps
but, its still annoying to deal with
also, whats a good way to do this on psyker you think?
it feels like it'd be easy but it just hasnt happened yet
upper sun
it feels like it'd be easy but it just hasnt happened yet
that one is not easy took me a very long time
upper sun
zealous wing
hah i know what im doing next mission
hearty wolf
This one has more chaarge rate than thermal resist >:(
zealous wing
idk what im gonna do when the penances run out tbh, i usually let them decide my maps and such if im bored
upper sun
This one has more chaarge rate than thermal resist >:(
the vets only have one functional class exclusive ranged weapon @buoyant maple optimized the ever loving fuck out of it
id do exactly as he says
deft stump
dump charge
No, dump based on feel. I rather thermal since the delay sucks worse with any ping.
deft stump
You either 68-69 thermal 72-71 charge rate or you dump based on feel.
buoyant maple
This one has more chaarge rate than thermal resist >:(
Yea that’s optimal
deft stump
Gets hot and rising heat gud.
buoyant maple
U ideally want 68~69% thermal resist
hearty wolf
I had one and dismantled it 😭
buoyant maple
Because going above doesn’t give u extra hipfire shots until vent
And charge rate affects pre-fire delay for both hipfire and braced shot
So u want it as high as possible
Which is 71-72%
deft stump
And charge rate affects pre-fire delay for both hipfire and braced shot
See. This is why I said, charge rate gud for feel.
upper sun
See. This is why I said, charge rate gud for feel.
now that path said it i believe u
deft stump
@upper sun Look.
buoyant maple
I had one and dismantled it 😭
Dw u prob can find another one after another 4M dockets
Prob
deft stump
Dw u prob can find another one after another 4M dockets
Or after a mil.
You just have to not want it hard.
And it'll show, trust.
upper sun
Dw u prob can find another one after another 4M dockets
we dont have anything to spend money on its ok
im like 500k from cap now
deft stump
now that path said it i believe u
Is why I tell newbies interested to just dump thermal if they can't afford to gamble.
fiery stratus
buoyant maple
GG bricked
hearty wolf
also this had blaze away and optimised cooling
buoyant maple
also this had blaze away and optimised cooling
It’s a fun alternative for auric & mortis
If u like magdumping at things
hearty wolf
o ic
buoyant maple
For havoc rising heat + gets hot is just more value for actually hitting the 1 taps u want
hearty wolf
We use this for now because I'm broke
buoyant maple
Swap flak for maniac if planning for havoc imo
Maniac gives flamer 1hs with enough buffs
Flak is for scab shotgunner 1hs in havoc, and body shot mauler
hearty wolf
Okie dokies
buoyant maple
U can get scab shotgunner 1hs in havoc with red node as well
hearty wolf
I go train in Mortis for now, but I will revisit for havoc when I can actually do decent daamage and not take any
buoyant maple
I think flamer 1hs is a more important breakpoint
hearty wolf
:)
We pray I can survive
I will post if I survive the Mortis Trials
Spawned in with 1/2 my hp
Good start
strong gulch
I go train in Mortis for now, but I will revisit for havoc when I can actually d...
like that one cracked vet we had
zinc phoenix
We use this for now because I'm broke
How have you been reduced in status to mere peasantry???
40k??
Kids, don’t get addicted to the rhydo, it’ll make you poor 😂
ornate hamlet
Swag 😎
zealous wing
We use this for now because I'm broke
do you wanna run some missions to get you some resources?
hearty wolf
@buoyant maple
This is wave 3
I died because the other guy led two POs back into me and they all stomped me
But it's going very, very well
I've done 400k with a fucking power sword
this thing
FUCKS
Done all the objectives myself too and not even taken much damage
(take away 115 cos I spawned in with 1/2)
deft stump
We use this for now because I'm broke
The earlier one was better. What happened to it?
zinc phoenix
Swag 😎
The new outfits look bizarre and out of place stylistically with the rest of the gear in game
hearty wolf
The earlier one was better. What happened to it?
I dismantled cos I thought was bad
ornate hamlet
The new outfits look bizarre and out of place stylistically with the rest of the...
But this psyker looks cool 😎
deft stump
I dismantled cos I thought was bad
You listened to CLAD???
ornate hamlet
With a really dumb looking hat
Thats a helmet
deft stump
Guy can only play Arby and Oggy...
zinc phoenix
“Dumb looking” is the key phrase
ornate hamlet
I mean he just looks green
Also he looks green cuz he next to mission relay
zealous wing
ROFL
some vet ran out of ammo, got trappered, and ragequit
stark crown
Power Sword propaganda in here of all places
upper sun
I LOVE MASHING THE SPECIAL KEY
strong gulch
I just had a sneezing fit and apparently my partner could heat me from the other side of the house. 💀
stark crown
Okay to be fair Illisi Bloodthirsty blessing I think it’s called, whatever the 100% Crit on special use is basically psykers fancier less uptime power sword
wraith sphinx
I think banter RNG hates me
upper sun
illisi is garbage im sorry
wraith sphinx
only today have I heard some new arbites-psyker convos and it was two topics in a row
upper sun
but its tru
radiant frigate
Power Sword propaganda in here of all places
power sword is an illisi with a?ds4 taped to it
this also makes it heavier and less mobile
wraith sphinx
power sword is vet's best melee
radiant frigate
force cycler when
wraith sphinx
just wish power cycler was inbuilt and not a blessing
radiant frigate
power sword is vet's best melee
true fact
upper sun
guies dying light 1 is on massive discount should i get it?
radiant frigate
power cycler and deflector should both be base features
wraith sphinx
hsword with scriers gaze 😏
buoyant maple
Okay to be fair Illisi Bloodthirsty blessing I think it’s called, whatever the 1...
nah it's nowhere as good
stark crown
Something something Tac Axe
wraith sphinx
man why is hsword the way it is
strong gulch
@hearty wolf 😭
buoyant maple
illisi has way lower cleave, worse first target dmg and worse cleave distribution
wraith sphinx
3 identical marks but two of them have shit movesets
upper sun
<@204065778167840769> 😭
i think its time to cut down your new psyker addiction
wraith sphinx
<@204065778167840769> 😭
cursed
upper sun
i refuse to believe you dont have a good trauma already
wraith sphinx
I'd send you mine if I could I don't like voidblast
strong gulch
i think its time to cut down your new psyker addiction
it's fine
hearty wolf
guies dying light 1 is on massive discount should i get it?
I really like DL1
hearty wolf
<@204065778167840769> 😭
:(
summer prairie
cleave distribution doens't seem worse
wraith sphinx
another 50 million psyker characters for bean
strong gulch
i think its time to cut down your new psyker addiction
Can't access the terrible curios that I've been buying from melk. Game won't even let me look at my +1 stam curio.
wraith sphinx
yeah gotta reach l8 first
strong gulch
I'm not trusted enough to look in my own pocket.
hearty wolf
I love this so much xd
wraith sphinx
I remember just never using brain burst unless I somehow ran out of laspistol ammo
which was a real feat on malice
ornate hamlet
guies dying light 1 is on massive discount should i get it?
No
wraith sphinx
guies dying light 1 is on massive discount should i get it?
I'd say no, the game kinda sucks
watched a friend stream it once and they were just raging at some bullshit zombie placement that prevented them from completing a side quest
ornate hamlet
I mean he just looks green
He looks 🔥 wdym
upper sun
🤔 ill try the free weekend a bit more
buoyant maple
psyker has no good melee clear options
rashad
upper sun
dawg i am not touching rashad without marty speed
strong gulch
i refuse to believe you dont have a good trauma already
wraith sphinx
there should be an evil version of unlucky for some talent called lucky for others
that's just the inverse effect
strong gulch
Lucky for ME. Just take other's toughness.
sturdy reef
someone said, "no staff?"
wraith sphinx
real
zealous wing
either havoc or uprising, probably
radiant frigate
psyker really has the worst starting loadout
what makes you say that
strong gulch
@tulip kettle wanna play?
upper sun
I'd say no, the game kinda sucks
this handles like shit
radiant frigate
there should be an evil version of unlucky for some talent called lucky for othe...
evil version be like "drains toughness of teammates in coherency before your own"
how does that work? no one knows
wraith sphinx
what makes you say that
brain burst's pointless on low diffs and you don't get a good opportunity to teach you how to use it until much later
zealous wing
"automatically triggers a nearby vets VoC or zealots chorus if available if they are in coherency if your toughness is broken"
radiant frigate
brain burst's pointless on low diffs and you don't get a good opportunity to tea...
yeah but dclaw is solid for horde clear, laspistol has great flak damage and you can use bb for ogryns
miles better than the standard vet imo
standard vet straight up has no way of hurting crushers
hearty wolf
We won
radiant frigate
"automatically triggers a nearby vets VoC or zealots chorus if available if they...
whose command was it anyway
hearty wolf
34 bosses
plucky flax
What? 53 minutes mortis trial?
hearty wolf
what the fuck
plucky flax
Why is your team so bad?
zealous wing
<@658194473314156565> i crashed
i had to leave, it was a gunner/reaper orgy down there
summer prairie
farming the infinite waves
zealous wing
almost died so it wouldve been a loss anyway lmao
hearty wolf
What? 53 minutes mortis trial?
NO ONE was the corrupter objectives
deft stump
What? 53 minutes mortis trial?
Auric with bad rolls and stuff.
plucky flax
I did the new mortis trial recently it was longer than the old one but I still got through in like 33 mins.
hearty wolf
Then I get ledged by a PO
zealous wing
gg on getting bullseye tho
hearty wolf
Some other guy spends 10m clutching
tulip kettle
<@453628860567650304> wanna play?
im just heading off for a while actually but maybe in a couple hours 🙂
hearty wolf
repeat
tulip kettle
i also just played the worst H40 i have ever been in
won it, but still, jesus christ
plucky flax
or are they all in havoc now
They know about the legend of the bubble knight no one questions a fgs/assail/recon 12/bubble psyker there.
tulip kettle
i unfriended the guy who invited me after -.-
tulip kettle
they were just trolling on pox gas as 2 arb buddies
hearty wolf
I did the new mortis trial recently it was longer than the old one but I still g...
Yeah it's usually about 30m on average provided things are normal
zealous wing
yikes
ornate hamlet
How do you choke on a fart wth
tulip kettle
pox gas modifier.
hearty wolf
do you wanna run some missions to get you some resources?
I could
But there is anti-propaganda against me currently
I don't even know what I did 😭
tulip kettle
But there is anti-propaganda against me currently
zealous wing
for what difficulty are you being accused of something
zealous wing
k i can carry malice, possibly heresy, so we could try damnation and under
auric is a bit more difficult for me still to stand on my own well
strong gulch
I will do missions
hearty wolf
auric is a bit more difficult for me still to stand on my own well
Damnation is auric anyway
just more mobbies
we do?
auric i mena
zealous wing
firstly, what resource you mainly need?
hearty wolf
Enemy blood
zealous wing
ordo, or all of them
hearty wolf
I need yellow numbers to upgrade my weapons
zealous wing
wdym yellow numbers
tulip kettle
the scoreboard
strong gulch
you were busy training in mortis 😭
plucky flax
Back in my day it was green circles.
tulip kettle
he wants to use you as a meat shield for dmg numbers
hearty wolf
Mortis is kind of fun
plucky flax
Eww..
zealous wing
he wants to use you as a meat shield for dmg numbers
i see
tulip kettle
Back in my day it was green circles.
zealous wing
sin, squad. now
hearty wolf
@zealous wing
strong gulch
😭
tulip kettle
see, just rude.
ornate hamlet
strong gulch
crashed
zealous wing
crashed
hearty wolf
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Log File:
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strong gulch
we call crashed??
zealous wing
yup
strong gulch
lmao
zealous wing
we were all dead
you died first
not even an event and you still barreled yourself into the void
zealous wing
grenade?
hearty wolf
why would I barrel myself
strong gulch
arby?
wraith sphinx
They know about the legend of the bubble knight no one questions a fgs/assail/re...
awesome
zealous wing
a grenade was thrown at the armour blob of 3 crushers and 2 bulwarks, so if you jumped in that might be on you
hearty wolf
I wanted to get in there instead of standing on top like it's a h40 😭
strong gulch
and boom
sturdy reef
anyone down for an H40
sturdy reef
maybe!!!!!
wraith sphinx
ok I will try 🫡
sturdy reef
now the real easy way to clear everything
is to change operative
create a new one
and pick ogryn
but fr staff psyker getting kinda boring
Im just doing bubble knight so people dont complain on H40
plucky flax
Im just doing bubble knight so people dont complain on H40
Based
sturdy reef
if I do melee psyker I never hear the end of it
even though every boss gets chunked
wraith sphinx
I tried for a long while to play my gunker on havoc, kept getting stuck on h21 filter
ornate hamlet
can I clear uprising with this?
No,u need 420 curios
cosmic sigil
@radiant frigate @summer prairie turns out my smart lightbulbs were saturating the wifi network with resquests....
summer prairie
interesting
cosmic sigil
I used wireshark to get the logs and I fed them to my AI and well...
Now I need to find a way to create some kind of network to put my iot on
upper sun
<@272731082594713614> <@204309481427959809> turns out my smart lightbulbs were s...
smart lights?
bro 😭
upper sun
bro 😭
i'd think you'd know technology bad
its time to rip everything out and hotwire them
wraith sphinx
No,u need 420 curios <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
fuck this game is too hard 😭
radiant frigate
<@272731082594713614> <@204309481427959809> turns out my smart lightbulbs were s...
SMART LIGHTBULBS
never in my life would i have guessed
strong gulch
✨
hearty wolf
but it was pretty good
I wish shredders were a little faster
by the time I take out the pin, I could have killed everything
ripe obsidian
<@272731082594713614> <@204309481427959809> turns out my smart lightbulbs were s...
Two questions: did you pull the packet capture from a wired network or did you do a proper wireless pcap, and what makes you say they were flooding the network?
hearty wolf
it's better for mixed hordes I guess
ripe obsidian
I am a wi-fi engineer professionally.
And creating a separate SSID for IoT devices on the same AP would not resolve that issue, if they're actually monopolizing airtime.
Unless you force them onto 2.4 GHz or something while the rest of your devices are 5/6 GHz
hearty wolf
f
strong gulch
it's not even mods
This is the real bad thing about new characters. I get it, but dang it.
hearty wolf
We will unlock it together
strong gulch
🫡
plucky flax
this game sucks
Tru I crashed in my last game too
pale prairie
cosmic sigil
its time to rip everything out and hotwire them
Well I have 2 terraces in my appartment and I need some chill factor
cosmic sigil
Two questions: did you pull the packet capture from a wired network or did you d...
well, I just ran wireshark on my laptop, and it detected a number of request from the lightbulbs to my internet box (I am in EU)
upper sun
Well I have 2 terraces in my appartment and I need some chill factor
you love this guy
he is you friend
you will spend a weekend programming your own controller
cosmic sigil
I switched them off from the interruptor (not from tjhe app) and the problem has just disappeared
jovial juniper
I tried for a long while to play my gunker on havoc, kept getting stuck on h21 f...
Recommend Zarona Shotgun
cosmic sigil
what is the name?
buoyant maple
<@366562874039992331>
learn how to fight chaos spawn with power sword without losing hp and ur basically set