#psyker-class
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Does shriek kill hordes with rampaging enemies in havoc 40?
rampaging can make even the trash tank
Yes it just takes more time and better awareness of spacing
And multiple shrieks
second shriek does it
45/100 damnation to get access to auric myself, however many games that is
doesplaying aurics increase it faster? if not we can just go to damn
Ohhh ... while i do like to use shriek espically to have those omg, i accidently overload moment, i figured i want to be more of a team player and go with the shield skill. Noticed that in heresy so far, it is mass gunners that shreds the team.
i dont know how the unlocks work tbh
it does for lower teirs
I thought it does
I hate this new levelling unlock thing.
idk took me a long ass time on arby
I haven't touched Veteran in so long cus of this
dumbass system
luckily I levelled Ogryn and Zealot already a year ago.
Whoever made it should be fired
Then voidblast or ek is great with bubble on heresy. Just make sure if you EK you have a melee weapon to deal with hordes or speed to reposition
That means no then
everything until heresy was me and several others with account level 300+ walking to the end and shit talking fatshark
Still doable thanks to PC. I think shriek only kills trash in like aurics and below
I don't have issues
You still shit talk Fatshark
Hmm shoot, i don't have image perms, what perks should i slap on my EK ? It is 470. I have eh Flak and Carapace. Warp Flurry and Warp Nexus for blessing.
yeah but then i did it in game while waiting for the elevator
Imo Shriek is actually better for team play... if your team has some common sense and survival skills.
best thing about EK staff is the crit explosion effect
I'd drop cara for maniac
I think I usually go unyielding over carapace but maniac is good too
I do Flakiac on EK. Want to kill elites and specials fast
Last night I ended up on teams with little boss damage, so that EK build didn't actually do so well, ha. Was fine until bosses showed up
Lol in heresy, it really depends on the team mate. Some drops like flies the moment and horde and boss comes. Sometime it is a boring breeze. Soo i figured i play it safe as i move into damnation.
I want to see you solo an H40 boss with Deimos, especially with a horde of purple crushers as its entourage.
Give me the situation, and I will perform
without kd
I just did.
Power Matrix, big open area with catwalks before the mid event. 2 teammates dead, you have EK+Shriek+Deimos, other teammate is a book zealot who doesn't do damage
Modifiers are Purple+slime
Yeah that’s why I go unyielding. Also helps with bulwarks I believe.
Scab armor seed
Bulwarks, reapers, monstrosities
you still have split aggro, zealot book screaming in the corner 😭
Hmm is Smite and Empowered Psy good idea or i better go with Warp Siphon keystone instead ?
He mostly followed me while I alternated between running, Shrieking, and trying in vain to zap purple Crushers
Got the boss to like half HP before it healed back to full
Smite is a dirty word here.
In the code, I believe smite is EK, tho
💀 Oh ppl don't like Palpatine build ?
With EK warpsiphon is better cause you want the Empyric resolve
💀
I think Ainz doesn't use ER on EK. And we should all strive to be Ainz.
Note: we can never be Ainz.
Fuck that! The peril cost is insane on it
Guess i go with Brain burst. I am also fine with popping heads. Heck, i was psyker main before all these fancy Palphine, and Assail is introduced and popping heads all the time.
Is that a Youtuber?
I have no idea if Ainz has YouTube videos
I did it for a while on a weird DD build I was doing but the peril management was too much brain stress
He's just a guy who hangs out here and is too good at the game
Brain Burst + Kinetic Flayer is very popular.
I've been rejected from a few groups recently, I assume for not running bubble.
The concept behind it was good, having to do enough lower difficulty games so people don't immediately jump into Damnation or Auric as soon as they hit lvl30.
It's just overdone a bit where the amount of games you have to play to unlock is a little overkill.
Is true
However, I am here for hyperbole
Murder them >:(
The main problem with it is that it applies to accounts that are already 30
it should be easier for people with already level 30 characters.
I have no clue what i am doing with my build but i am just clicking on nodes that i know i will be doing a lot. Will go on damnation now. Will report back my result lol
that's the spirit
how else will you learn?
It was actually really bad when it first changed. Loads of Havoc and Auric and such players blazing through the lower difficulties and carrying Malice players way beyond their ability. I wouldn't be surprised if it led to a drop in players from people getting frustrated once the Havoc folks went back to Havoc
True, if someone already has lots of games with another Ogryn for example it should let you skip.
Tap r when red
Shrimple as
Oh wait, my Psyker have auric unlocked already ... but eh i will just start with damnation first.
And yes I have a youtube
Just run some havoc 40s with your buddy then a couple aurics and you scream right through the damnation noob bar
Oh it is ainz that ppl are talking about 
Idk how to explain
I don't think about peril
My brain blocks it out
It's just muscle memory
Arbiter confirmed
Havoc does change peril a bit
So my auric muscle memory is probably a lot worse now
I saw that, Heresy game a couple of days ago, Zealot who didn't know how to block, and was hipfiring the lightest version of the Inf Lasgun to barely any effect, even when getting hit from the side by a Rager.
I accidentally got netted while rescuing someone else, and he and another player barely did anything, so I watched on spectate and he was randomly looking at stuff for 10 seconds each before picking it up.
Yeah, alot more newer players in higher difficulty
It's funny when they get into my havoc 40 games
Makes my day
The game failed, cause they got to where the other player and I were waiting to be rescued, and then just stood there while a sniper locked in on them, didn't even try to rescue, just stood there.
It's like they were seeing everything for the first time, and asking someone in the room next to them "wow, what is this?"
Happens
Yeah Ainz when you gonna go elite damage and stop using shitty perks?
I feel the same thing every time someone fights trash instead of unnetting someone. It’s so fast you can start while they are still being pulled JUST DO IT
i like to kill trapper first because sometimes i get bumped by a mutie and then trapper is like "ho ho ho" and nets another person
but if hes fucked off into space then yeah net
Absolutely, less than two seconds and now you have two people killing trash instead of one.
At least they teach you the proper perks to use on weapons.
Whatever works for you. I find that I can unnet before mutie or trapper renets unless the mutie is like right next to me
True!
I miss that guy
More like rezing takes so long compared to just unnet haha
I normally kill the trapper before they fire, or if I'm late right after they've fired, so it's already dealt with. Seen too many runs end where the trapper has netted all four players despite me pinging it.
I kill the trapper if it's still nearby. I have to suppress my urge to hunt it down and put a stake through its heart. At least until after I have saved my meat shield teammate.
Within 1:30 1 trapper netted all 3 of my teammates in a havoc 40
The clip is on my PC, I can get it later
I don’t know why but my gut says the trapper reload takes longer than that….i know it doesn’t but that’s crazy
What a hero. Deserves to be a Chaos Champion with that work ethic.
Yep for sure getting nurgle blessed
Rinda’s Origin Story
then you got netted cause you fell over laughing?
Hey it’s my first time fighting them on hard mode
nah ive seen how these go its the other way round with twins begging for mercy
Warpstep
What the fuck
Was it the bot thrown off the edge and you just loaded into their falling body?
Psychic 🗣️
this is gonna hurt me more than its gonna hurt you
yea
He didn't need to kill it
he has until death
Funny thing, after that he said "that actually wasn't funny" then leaves
Like a full minute after
lmao hes no fun
Ok ... i need to tweak my build a bit. Feels like both brain burst and EK are doing the same job.
BB is really there as a passive
Side note, nice bio. I love that song
Empowered psy brain burst + Venting Shrek and electro staff.
I don't see much value with EP on that build, as Krieger said BB is a passive for kinetic flayer plus a special sniper if EK can't reach
In essence you are right admiral EP BB is doing a lot of the same job as EK staff
Ahh i see.
Shrek is your horde clear with EK so going warp charges will reduce it's cool down
Shrek...
Shriek
You basically want to go all cooldowns you can with EK Shriek build so that the shriek (which is your horde clear.) is up as much as possible. So psykinetic aura, and the seer’s presence, alongside ability cooldowns on your relics. With 4 warp siphon charges you should be getting it back at least every like 14 sec and that’s if you don’t get some elite kills to lower it more
Not a funny thing. He said so.
Remember to get peril up to 85% before shrieking to get maximum creeping flames stacks on enemies
True peril mod makes it easier
Vanilla game peril likes to round up
My peril has 2 decimals
So wild. I settled for 1
smite is brainburst 🙃
and what we call smite is called like, chain_lightning or sthing i dont remember
Yeah, your brain bursts from how intense your eyeroll is when you encounter a smyker
anyone for some aurics?
No hate against Smite though, it's very useful, but like any tool, you need to know how to use it first
Yeah it just needs a redesign cause it’s both too powerful and also a tool that teaches terrible habits.
like the Rumbler
i just dont get these takes
smite is not even too powerful
its doodoo
straight poop
At lower difficulties if someone goes all in on EP smite it’s kills hordes and freezes everything else for a long time. Especially if they grab venting shriek
"b-b-b-b-but numbers to numbers it horde clears better than the staves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
maybe in malice
i genuinely only used it for the penance, and, it was OK but, not really useful
take it into rampaging 40 and watch everything dance for 10 seconds and not even die
i do miss assail tho so dearly
Did you take EP?
uh
Rampaging? Barely kills even in normal 40 
But that's the point of the tool, a few seconds to pause
no i dont think i did , mightve, idk, my old build let me hold smite for like, 20 seconds, then quell in less than one, and be back at it
Plus, if not immune to CC, then if you manually release, you can knock 'em back
i feel like you could have just killed everything instead
Which is why it teaches bad habits
You could, and honestly depends on the situation
yeah but needed penances, and it was just my spouse and i with 2 bots in private, so, genuinely, who cares
i used it a few weeks ago, was last guy left and there was a group of shotgunners and ragers
i wa slike, hmm, time to test this smite EP
SIXTEEN SECONDS
and they didnt even die 😭
You didn't chop 'em up? smh
its good for pushing them over, though, use a good blade after ^
speaking of, i need to do that "throw enemies into the giant fan" penance
Yeah same
i dont have that one
The EP keystone makes a difference especially if you get the jumping sub node and damage sub node not to mention Battle Meditation. Not saying it’s the best blitz at all but it ends up doing enough damage that it kills trash and then people go “oh it’s the best”
Ogryn with no push over and taunt is easiest
Hourglass maps always go in and out of rotation (because issues) and it's a pain in the ass to play on those maps anyways
its hard to get enemies by the fans with bots shooting them all
Right, but hey, they're not moving, so I don't have to learn dodge or melee if my lightning fingers stops them and kills them! 
though i discovered you CAN trick the bots into walking into the fan and dying, solved half the problem
Then they bring that stuff to auric and higher and get all shocked like dom when it fails to kill the elite mobs. But they keep trying cause “it worked before”
maybe those of us without it can just private squad and get it done sometime
tbf, it does have killing potential in Auric but it's just.. gross
Like if you stack EP and the other nodes like you said earlier
All that effort and you can just spam left click on a non-flame staff 
Yeah but that’s the difficulty where enough stuff comes in that you just die to the mob of elites the director spawns behind you
Can’t sprint and only 3 dodges and get hit and you drop the channeling so then you really dead
When I was leveling Psyker I went with Smite + EK just because thematically I love lightning
It needs to have a predetermined channel time like book or VoC and a better effect
No expectation for horde clear or damage or anything, it makes itself apparent what it does IMO
Or maybe just a blast of arc lightning that stuns for a few seconds so you can still do other useful things
Ah the old days when EP was bugged so you could infinitely channel smite. It was so dumb
Smite should be chaos reach form d2 me thinks
OR
make it better with melee
Make it strike lightning down on them
Like bb but aoe
https://tinyurl.com/yc8hpnsh @zealous wing
tbh I like being able to control the direction enemies fall with Smite
I think that's how I got Cliffhanger 
Smite can be useful if the person using it is good but majority aren’t
It’s 9.9/10
Unfortunately 
But in reality the only time smite is ever good is and incredible amount of bulwarks or waves of disablers
Worst thing is when smite is holding scattered trash at varying distances, while you're getting shot at by gunners, as a zealot or Ogryn you run out of toughness and can't reach stuff to top it up quick enough. Psykers who just use it all the time and think they're helping when they're locking up stuff that isn't a threat.
Also true, or a few seconds of breathing room in a super cramped spot
Like the absolute shit bottleneck in the beginning of Ascension Riser, that gate at the beginning
That's a slog in 40
I like it for shoving bursters back
That's what my voidblast staff is for 
Make smite have a cooldown
Your psyker's nervous system needs the cooldown to generate more electricity
I'll smite you 😬

Remove smite. Add black hole.
Black hole staff
We have voidblast lets have voidsuck
Just get the trifecta going
Add fireball staff
Voidstrike?
No, like the fireball staff in VT2
Throws a fat projectile that explodes and applies dot in an area
I feel like it’s too close to voidstrike to get made
Projectile has arc so no infinite range
Again I am not arguing they aren’t distinct I am saying that from a gameplay standpoint they are so similar I doubt they will add it. Maybe rework voidstrike sure but I don’t see the two existing at the same time
I just want more staves that do fire
Proper fire
Not blazing spirit
Fireball staff would also deal piss poor carapace damage
But good unyielding damage
Add coruscation staff
Ok ... i see what is wrong with my build now. was wondering why on earth my toughness just don't replenish properly
Actually, is there a precedent for an ice staff? That would be cool too
Space wolves psykers be like
Imperial fists psykers throw rocks
entombes you into a wall
I agree with this.
An arcing fireball that explodes on contact
No cleave, no infinite range
Arc and kaboom, fire for everyone
I’d like the bolt staff
Voidblast is aimed at the floor, this would throw a projectile that explodes on contact with a surface or an enemy
This one wouldn't knock down everything, but would cause aoe burn and have different damage profiles than voidblast
Voidblast is very armor agnostic, it deals basically the same damage to everything
This one would be more like inferno in terms of damage profiles
I dunno AoE from voidblast with inferno damage profiles at range sounds really OP
So if that’s the case I throw the projectile it lands in a horde but it hits a crusher then the fire gets only on the crusher cause of 0 cleave right?
No, the fire spreads to every enemy in the aoe
The projectile does not pass through anything though
At most a poxwalker
Lmao so it’s inferno’s infinite cleave/damage, Voidblast AoE explosion, but an arcing projectile to game the fact the projectile has “0” cleave
And it’s at range
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Higher damage, probably. Less CC. Loads of fire. Different aiming profile, Different damage modifiers. Stuff Balsco said.
That really sounds insanely good
Like too good
I mean, depending on how you describe it, any weapon can sound too good
If the explosion has higher damage then the fire DoTs need to be lower in number or do less damage than Soulblaze. Especially with the arcing range component
I would want it to be another staff that can reliably apply Soulblaze. Would be fine with lower damage and CC than Voidblast in exchange for loads of fire
That makes more sense
LMB would just be like little baby versions?
Yeah, ideally. Low damage, single target, applies 1-2 stacks
Maybe little fireballs with tiny explosion and no arc
Maybe high stagger on that single target, or super high suppression
Hmmmmm okay like assail shards? That could be fun. Just shooting spikes of crystal at short range
I would need all projectiles to instantly ignite barrels
a staff with a special that deals ogryn nuke level of destruction at the cost of health 😏
No. Perils of the Warp.
Hmm ok. After a few games of damnation. I can say that i need to be a lot more tankier.
My dream is that PotW does an Ogryn nuke of damage
Any eh ... build that wil let me be pretty tanky ?
And does friendly fire and flings allies like barrels do
make it authentic and summon demons..like a chaos spawn 👍
Not really. Psyker mitigates damage, but does not tank it.
If you get hit, it hurts
The ones where you don't get hit
That being said
Bubble
Just stay inside it lol
Yes. Turn it into a PvP game until your allies can put down the demon
Yea ... i guess it is just skill issue for now. it is weird while leveling arbites on heresy, i rarely get hit but as soon as i step into damnation with psyker, i get down almost every run
A staff that when channeled heals corruption on yourself and can cast to heal up to a maximum corruption amount on Allies. Also makes peril explosion do amount of damage equal to the amount of corruption absorbed by it.
I guess arbites is just super safe to play with all their dog eating anyone who tries to hit me from behind or something.
Yeah arbites can’t be compared to any class other than Ogryn right now. It has a bunch of talents that gives crazy amounts of toughness regen for stuff like “hitting enemies” and “staggering baddies” in addition to just killing stuff toughness gen
psyker peril explosion itself already should be more memeable
instead of just going down it should be more like a barrel explosion
and also summon demons 😏
Surprise dh
It really should be an Ogryn nuke. Maybe like it spawns a DH on the map everytime you go down
can't be DH guys, that needs a physical person and isn't lore accurate
maybe chaos spawn
It is a shame because i really like the class fantasy but eh yea i guess it is just me being skill issue and refusing to play gunpsyker who will probably be easier for me since i will be melee most of the time and taking out gun when i need to snipe specials.
Yeah a demon reaches through and grabs a random cultist
Try melee psyker
What curios do you use? Do you have Empathic evasion or One with the Warp?
Hmm does that even work ? From the way their works i thought i should be playing with perils all the time.
Ohh no evasion but i do have one with the warp
oh shit that's a taxe here we go
Melee psyker typically uses a force sword that allows you to generate peril in a pinch. Other wise you use Assail and throw darts to keep peril up. If you have Kinetic Deflection you can block for a bit to generate too
hmm i see. I will give that a try then
my psyker skills clearly disappeared since i remember playing on auric but eh i will give that melee a try
Arbiter can also gain something like 70% toughness from one kill
Give this a try and go all toughness curios with health and toughness and CDR perks on the curios
if you are going to use that taxe 7 make sure you know the combo, it's alternating between push atk and heavy atk
Don’t be afraid to switch to melee and keep glancing around to make sure you’re safe
Also you wanted bubble right?
Ahh it is fine. I might as well give Scrier a try
That’s the vent shriek build that in my opinion works best with EK
Ahh i see
psyker IS the hardest class to play, so don't beat yourself up over it
The idea is you shriek anytime it’s off cooldown and you have 85% peril. Aim it in a direction you are not focusing on. Let’s you protect your back if you have enemies there while still sniping elites in front of you with RMB. Your goal is to kill as many elites and specials as possible to get Cooldown bonuses towards Shriek and to spread more fire from Perilous Combustion
Psyker requires greater combat awareness due to generally having fewer immediate solutions, and no get out of jail for free cards, Psyker's also the squishiest class and therefore requires your active defense to be really solid, positioning, dodging, blocking, staggering
Hmm that is true i guess. I find myself downing mostly from being hit from the back or something
Yeah be liberal with RMB casts. Sometimes just cast it at a low charge to CC an enemy and make space. Switch to your melee to run away or kill things that get to close. Always be watching around you. As a character that focuses on range with this build you’re probably gonna be the first to notice enemies approaching due most melee classes being stuck in the horde and focusing on killing trash
Turning down the voice whispering effects of high peril can also help you hear audio cues for something trying to hit you
Oh yea i should do it.
what is that setting anyway ? i remember getting down a few time because of that.
It’s in gameplay I think under accessibility stuff “peril effects” I think
I usually have it between 25-30
that's just Sienna Vermintide 2
On hit and stagger toughness is crazy
Some of it is. Not a majority.
Too much please nerf
It kept ticking up to like 217 toughness after this
arbitrator gameplay
Can't be better than the "paid" class
this man is wise
I think this guy works for Fatshark
Finally turning the power creep down
Gave mah build a proper description
Psychic Dwarf
Ok ... that build definitely making me last wayyy longer but sadly still not ready for damnation lol. Got quick match into Damnation high intensity.
and it is just a single arbites carrying the 3 other players
You’re just having to learn the habits of a class that is literally polar opposite of arbiter hahaha
Yeah the hot patch fixed a bunch of very strong arbiter talents so they are eating really well right now
When heresy feels comfortable move up! But don’t be afraid to try out damnation at any time. Sometimes improvement in the game comes from being tossed in the deep end and improve or die hahaha
time to see if maximizing soulfire works well
Pick form these 4
obviously this because that's pretty much your profile 😂
I love this this one
Yea i am playing in damnation right now because heresy felt too easy ( although it could just be arbites too strong and make me felt ready )
Not a good loot goblin 
they had grabby hands
and the oggy was bitchy
usually i AM a loot gobbo but, too much brain power on new build
AND im sick on top of that...
forgiven? 🥺
AND you didnt take 2.3k dmg like your sibling running the same build
wait was he really
yup
thought he was using obscurus
it looked obscurus
with SG not bubble
hmm
but its very similar
What build
weve got hex playing bubble squire
but, he did also say he didnt like it, so, if you outright dont vibe with something its gonna be a huge struggle
ye he was willing to TRY
ill keep my eye out for a good laspistol when doing general quickplay grinding, so, what dump stat for it
k
Mk2 stability or moblity
pistol is cool though cos its got a mini force push
i do want my stamina back for sure
Cookie clicker pistol
dont forget though you only use it to sprint
as you have KD so blocking costs peril not stam
yeah which, i had a lil trouble moving, it felt like, getting from crusher A to bulwark B
not sure, testing required
thats just cos bigly sword is slow
that too
your recon las is your movement stick
its SO slow
k
but yeah, overall, i vibe with this better than the EK one, but, i do still have that tree if needed
yeah one will likely be far better for maelstrom than the other (the ek is probably much better for maelstrom)
its more that, EK is more "hang back and zap the specials and shooters"
this build is more "run at them and bonk them in your bubble"
Still slow. Based las pistol 🙏 lo, speed be upon ye
ill keep eye out for it for testing at the very least
though, sliding with the crits from mettle and DD procs is very zoomy
You can mow thru maels very quick with a sg fgs las pistol build
Lots of tools for everything and solid monstrosity damage
i usually sell all my scraps for ordo then i dont have any actual weapons left
Captains are an ass pain
Just grind maels for money don’t sell stuff you’ll want it for sacrifice fuel
Maels are quick and easy
lol oddball
youre forgetting how tough it is just to not tunnel vision on the pox trying to hit you when youre newer
as far as sacrifice fuel, i've found it more efficient to sell the stuff that doesnt match anything i need mastery, and then buy what does match
I find the best option is to have more money than you could possibly use
emperor knows ive got the plasteel for it
Oh lawd
i keep buying things i dont need
i've just been collecting everything because i want to
max soulfire turns out to not be good
tryed to get as many soulfire things and didnt do as much as i was hoping
its by far the strongest DoT
what were you hoping for?
and also meta for a reason
One moment 
i feel like my smite is more effective
i am gonna take a short break, walk around the house a little, i should be back before afk timer kicks me
I guess I can join for one or two havocs
itll be H17, havent checked modifiers
Too difficult
bullshit
...at what difficulty?
auric
My wallet 
dont play havoc
Okay, yeah, still no at Auric. Soulblaze does a billion more damage than Smite.
I mean sure, but it doesn't matter if it does more damage when there is 10 ragers trying to kill me
Well you see if they’re fuckin dead
Just kill them.
Then it’s solved
Some recent games. Note the Soulblaze damage.
back
im guessing havoc?
Smite is a great way to gimp your growth and get stuck moaning on aurics
These Smyker with Shout games?
Zap psyker is a soulfire beast that happens to use smite sometimes
And cries when a boss shows up
😂
6 wins in a row, you get 10 per win, -5 on loss, I think.
Works fine in Auric, too.
Note: Inferno LMB, Voidblast RMB, and Shriek will all stagger ragers.
insta crash
@vague musk what build are you using? Both staff and talents. I am happy to give advice or feedback if you want it. If not, that is fine as well.
current one or the soulblaze one i tried
The soulblaze one in particular. I like burning things.
Gunker is all well and good, but fire.
I just picked all the talants that give soulfire
my normal build has wildfire + combustion which works well with zappy
No warp rider?
Part of the problem is the staff 🙁
its only mastery rank 2 or something lol, i dont use staffs most of the time
Penetrating flame can substitute warp nexus iirc for a bit more team damage, but warp nexus gives more personal damage afaik
The 20% brittleness from penetrating flame stacks with other brittleness sources, oddly enough
Yeah not a problem but inferno is a dot build that really benefits from squeezing as much min maxing out of the staff as possible. So crit chance and Flak damage perks in addition to the warp nexus and blaze away can help a lot. Warp resistance is the dump stat on it
Ill try those changes next time I get on
warp nex is superior, key contribution of inferno is chaff clear and not having warp nex reduce chaff clearing speed drastically
also so many people say smite is trash but its better them most people think
This is a build that might work better for you. The goal here is to cast venting shriek as often as you can at 85% peril. Having CDR perks on your curios can help with that too
it's really good for newbies because it boost their power above what they could achieve normally
Please check the pins 🙏
it's bad for experienced players because it caps their power lvl
Voidblast exists and is better than smite
Trauma, plz 🙏
HER NAME IS TRAUMA
nah smite is really good for managing large hoards, can stun massive amounts of enemies at once and kill poxwalkers pretty fast
Look yalls I prefer Trauma too but newbies don't know that
🚬 theyll learn they always do
It’s really good at stunlocking enemies outside havoc. But it’s so good it’s boring to the rest of the team. In addition it takes away from some of the damage and utility that a psyker can provide when not Channeling. Finally it doesn’t teach core mechanics to Psykers like dodging, positioning and how to survive in melee.
compare to what, inferno/VB also does that, and does it better, only "down side" is more skill/input needed
Blame fatshark for renaming my beautiful purgatus
Reject wizard mentality
@zealous wing @tulip kettle
Smite also offers 0 boss damage
The essence of psyker is “don’t be hit” and if you smite spam you never learn how to do that
palpy lightning does have its charms, just gets filtered out by better things at higher lvl
also the thing enrages melee players 😏
for good or ill
don't use it on bosses then, i only use it when there is a boss if a hoard is coming, can stun the hoard/elite groups so the rest of the group can focus on the boss
Horde*
if you smite spam you don't have to do that*
easy solution
That’s cool but you could also set the horde on fire and then use a melee weapon or BB with your soulblaze stacks to also help against the boss
You could be clearing chaff and elites with an Inferno or Voidblast staff while dealing more damage
bait again?
Figured you were hungry
got this bad boy today... but not sure how far I should upgrade it... dunno the breakpoints for charge rate and critical bonus... anyone have an idea?
Smite is too good
Smite is fine. It's just CC, though. Its damage output is pretty minimal compared to other Psyker CC options, like Voidblast and Inferno. It relies a lot on Shriek/Creeping Flames for damage, and due to how Soulblaze scales, 6 stacks from Creeping Flames is significantly worse than, let's say, 15+6 stacks from Inferno. Like, way worse.
This is good

so no more upgrades?
I thought quell speed had minimal effect.. like.. literally less than half a second worth
You can live with warp resistance being low but you can absolutely just max this baby and be just as happy if not more so
60-80 having something around 17 frame difference?
In havoc quell speed lets you tap quell button and quell faster than holding it down
The build Krierger shared is already my build, but I highly recommend doing Blaze Away + Warp Nexus on Inferno, as well as making sure your staff's stats are arranged properly. Blaze Away increases ranged strength, so it's stagger as well as damage. Warp Nexus increases crit chance, and a crit is double soulblaze application. Crits also boost Perfect Timing, Mettle, and EE.
you're absolutely right about that
Up to a point.
Tapping quell is diminishing returns.
I don't know the exact math, but the higher your peril, the more you quell per tick. If you hold quell, I believe the number is consistent each tick, so like 10% > 10% > 10%. Whereas tapping is like 10% > 9% > 8%
So if you're just tapping 2x, you're fine
More than that, holding might be better
but is there a specific breakpoint for Critical Bonus and Charge Speed where it doesn't do anything after a certain percentage? Like with inferno staff, after 76% Burn it doesn't do anything
oh...
Still 16 stacks, but burn also impacts how quickly stacks are applied.
The code is opaque. I don't know exactly how it works
But that is in there
so this could use one more level of upgrades?
I doubt it's any meaningful amount
2% WR isn't a big deal. I would do it. Not everyone would
Tbh I don't like using my ~20% WR staff.
I use 45% on bubble+ER and 60% on Shriek+no ER
damn it... got a lot of playtesting to do now 😄
Max stacks and application rate
Does “moebian 21st” modifier spawn more basic shooters? I have seen that one in a while so I’m wondering
I believe they had stronger armour or something
And it's all lerpy rounding with hidden decimals
So for things like blaze stacks, you can't have half a stack
But other things are sneakier
Tons of the armored brutes
I think they are slightly tankier too. Not crazy but feels oppressive in the big waves if you’re already busy
Higher base HP, higher hitmass, less staggerable
Also apparently faster
And flakky
Yea I know that but has anyone seen more stalker gunners in those matches? I doesn’t specify that info the the guide
Dang pretty sure I did more damage than purg psyker as shield arby purple orange.
But I dc'd so my scoreboard is ruined. 
It's likely true.

I believe you


what was your loadout/build?
or were you teamed up with a babyker like me?
I believe it 😌
EO?
Executive Officer or something 
execution order
oh duh..
the dog purple fartshark just managed to fix
did they fix EO not triggering by either dog kills or your kills? can't recall whicever it was
it works proper now yeah
14 mins in. In the lift after mid event I'm already gapping psyker bro.
think it only worked on direct dog damage, bleed/electrocute kills from dog don't count
have you considered the psyker sucks
Tru he's not the best.
But I am kind of pro.
And psyker burga OP in purple.
So it kind of cancels out.
Nade vet was stealing my bleed a lot too. 
what perk is that 🤔
Crit chance.
What is vet doing
Arby is fair and balanced
I think they should make more power creep

EO should just be called Karien Order with how much it lifts
EO working is mildly horrifying
Knife bistol bleed vet he's op
knife more like trash
I think they need to nerf him
accurate
Doesn’t eo buff dog?
And you
yes
It buffs everything
it also buffs your eye 😏
You thought bleed explosion dog was bad they “fixed” Arby
They should bring OP bleed back too.
Yeah I’d rather hit my nuts with a hammer
Now that EO works properly.
And then there’s like 5 sub talents that let you boost a bunch of stuff of your choice. Monstrosity damage, crit chance/crit damage, movement speed/ flat damage, rending etc.
Undo the nerf on zealot
Doing 1mil damage with dog bleed is fine. 
bleed explosion and EO is not the same shit 
You want to watch the world burn?
buff thammer plz
one was fixed cause its not intended and one got fixed to work as intended 
The poop hammer
i dont get the metldown
this
I love forceful but this seems ridiculous
DD needs to mark lesser enemies too.
IRONHELM WILL BE BUFFED
Cos I have real problem with keeping up stacks in havoc when it's just poxwalkers.
forceful lets u become a true lobotomite
So is this just the dog pouncing or is it have to be at a marked target
Speaking of dd why doesn’t vet have dd
Ogryns + poxwalkers only = no dd for me
because vet needs a le sniper keystone
Well now both
Forceful still my main idc
10% movement, 15%toughness, 10% attack speed, 25% damage for just one kill and jump? That’s balanced
Goddamn
And has insane uptime
Is balanced.
Pls no flame
yes very balanced
Just rework the middle keystone that thing is shite.
Well at least Clad can get some wins now
Now when zealot and vet gets reworked what will psyker be born into?
Just as the lex intended
Mind control.
point is we all know it 
Recruit a red reaper to fight for you.
enjoy it before they nerf it
Space marine class when
I refuse looks really boring honestly
Red would definitely be immune
Sister of battle
“Pop the bubble slave”
very fun class
yes he's op but they nailed the fun aspect
WE SHOULD GET TO PLAY AS THE GUILLIMAN
rowboat gooliman?
ROWBOAT GORILLAMAN
Whoops this isn’t arbiter chat
Smh
1 more for a havoc 20?
Hell yeah 17-20? Awesome job @zealous wing
plz do!
yay :D
I will bring my strongest Arb build I guess
haha
I better switch to dueling sword now
Nah you're gonna need shroudfield if you want to keep up
I'm NOT messing around
I will go to the end of the mission
but no soulblaze >:)
combat knife is r
Only you would run past twins and complain about specials while the Twin's arent even on you 😭
need to patch 2s
why do you have to be so toxic
It's in his blood
Don't listen to the Dom propaganda
him SCREAMING at me for being useless
meanwhile he's dead
I'm toxic too though, I pushed a burster into Hexis
take a backseat lil bro 😭
😭
Well played!
That gave him air time
they were playing ping pong with me 
Tony hawk Hexis edition
There is always next time
Sucks to suck 
This game is sentient sometimes
I have to restart 
Lvl 712 now 
I'm not a potato 
wtf xd
@tulip kettle it kicked me now from the chat, ill quit and relaunch rq

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SOB
go win
don't know how
I'm not joining 
dont need to talk

I saw sin say press W. Rest in peas folks.
Listening attentively to the silence
Imagine if they added all of these to the game. You’d have old school players going zealot to show out while the sister of battle, custodes and space marine still all died somehow
I have learned today to never trust a teammate, even on Havoc 2 😭
But my god
the EO buff
IT'S SOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
not good enough obviously
also
win 4 no issues
sin joins
lose
COINCIDENCE?!?
I think not
Complains about bosses
does 1/6th of my boss damage
🤔
I even decided to red stimm when I came to you before you brought the PO to trap me in the corner...
Assassination attempt

Ngl ‘mostly’ regular sized people riding space bikes capable of killing space marines sounds cool
The algebra on this one is curious

You've been Hab Dreyko'd
I blame Sin 
sounds pretty bossy
@tulip kettle
i spawn in and kill two monstrosities with just a bot up
one dude dies and leaves as i am spawning
the other dude is under a dog the whole time
as soon as i kill the dog he tells me i suck and leaves
classic mael
Damnation?
its Hex's havoc
ok i have a hilariously disgusting barbie build where even if i dont block and just run at things in a pox burster mael i am unkillable
its hilarious
like genuinely the dumbest thing i have ever seen
i am 0-3 in 1-2 maelstroms
I’ve been winning every mael where I don’t get ledged or netted
If I get ledged, instant wipe
If I get netted it’s probably a wipe
i got netted trying to clutch one
The quality of mael teams is rock bottom
Also I did a h20 for giggles and the psyker was a martyrdom psyker. I was dying
i refuse to interact with havoc until the toughness and ammo nerfs are removed
You didn't burninate enough
It’s not gonna happen and is pretty easy anyway
Oh that would be great esp after all these changes
how am i supposed to play an extra poxburster maelstrom
like it all goes well until the inevitable rube goldberg of poxbursters
Blocking is your friend
If you don’t want to block, shotguns
wow really?
If you hate both blocking and shotguns you can try assail or left click flame stick
its more like when one slight thing goes wrong and a poxburster is suddenly there to jump on me
Left click flame stick will bounce them back
If it’s a maelstrom you can also go for voidstrike + sg and obliterate the entire chain
playing gunker
Oh then shotgun will solve it
And assail
Mostly you just kinda learn to dance between the raindrops
Tbh, I used Smite on Burster or Doggo maelstroms a lot of the time
Works but boring
It is boring
But also less frustrating than dying 18 times in a row because some teammate shot the bursters you were pushing
worried about friendly fire? simply friendly fire your teammates first
Sound logic.
#fgssweep
The hardest thing about playing barbie is remembering nets exist
Idk why some random police officer is literally the most unkillable thing on the planet
I guess when the starting set are literal conscripts
Feels like the slab of 1 ton of muscle should be harder to kill though
he is 
"Bolter fire raked towards him, striking the hulking abhuman, who grimaced in pain. Chunks of flesh were torn from its arms and chest, but the three metre creature that dwarfed even the Terminators did not slow. It lowered a shoulder and smashed into one of the enemy, knocking it from its feet. Raising the butt of its heavy ripper gun, the ogryn began caving in the helmet of the fallen warrior, smashing it down onto the prone traitor again and again."
"With a roar, the ogryn picked up one of the traitors, one massive hand upon the enemy’s backpack and the other between his legs. It lifted the Chaos Marine high into the air and slammed it head first into the ground, cracking its neck."
Found that on Reddit a while ago. No idea what book it's from
Space marines in their own book: god, but with a bigger weiner
Space marines in other people’s book: chaff you kill to flex
they fked traitor marines up
named vs unamed
its the biggest meme around them pretty much
I'd argue that our Ogryns have pretty absurd gear
“His armor is a gecko”
not on the same level as pre heresy gear
Yup, Ogryns are insane
“He tied it on with rope”
Man walks around wearing that, you know you shouldn't bother him
That ogryn in particular, if I remember correctly, killed like 5 chaos space marines before it finally died, and it was nameless
but i think the point of the chapter is that ogryns are CRACKED in terms of sheer brute strength
Most of the psyker armor is a bath robe with delusions of grandeur
I just need some fucking psyker pants that aren't skintight
would you guys rather they fix bulwarks or bursters
The enforcer pants are dope for that
or are both perfectly fine
If you can’t see that ass crack what are you even paying for?
What's wrong with Bulwarks?
everything
1 bulwark not a problem
That is not an argument.
Bursters are genuinely broken right now. They are sometimes silent and often ignore pushes
best psyker pants





