#psyker-class

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marble crater
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Life as console player is hard, always getting flamed

tulip kettle
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BuT THe DOg ONlY PUsHes THem WheN YoU PInG THem

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we do need 1 more for H40 it seems

gray juniper
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Ngl idk about that with the worse than usual lag between continental servers lately

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Like things on rubber banding in front of me

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I don’t get people either. You can absolutely rampage a havoc but they’ll all leave after the match instead of stay for another

tulip kettle
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we playing us

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if you want to join med

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first try with the gang

ripe obsidian
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43% crit rate. Was that EK or Inferno?

strong gulch
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inferno

ripe obsidian
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Nice

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I usually top out around 41%

strong gulch
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instead of unyielding

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I think I quell too agressively

gray juniper
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Good game tho u guys

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Captain beans showing out as usual

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
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Could just be imposter syndrome

ripe obsidian
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I am only above 80 like 25% of the time

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Usually in the 60-80 range

pale prairie
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Fearless

pale prairie
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Wooooooooooo

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I am trying to get better at maintaining a high peril average

strong gulch
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4th for H40?

sturdy reef
strong gulch
sturdy reef
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sure

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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Quick maths puts me at closer to 29% of the full match spent at 80+

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I am not at my PC to check anything beyond screenshots that I have

pale prairie
visual phoenix
tiny tartan
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I dont seem to have this problem on my zealot, why when swinging my greatsword I get that weird glide where its like I'm out of dodges

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While I dont on Zealot

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Very weird, makes it annoying

plucky flax
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@karie

tiny tartan
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???????????

plucky flax
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Let me decipher for you. Karien said you just need to git gud fren.

pale prairie
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sea of emojis

strong gulch
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Is this the emoji movie?

pale prairie
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Hey there Karien

pale prairie
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welp just did a nightcap maelstrom with an Arbiter that did 1 million damage by just throwing grenades and shotguns into crowds. apparently the hot fix has been good for them

strong gulch
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That means I'm not responsible for anything and don't have to be perceived much.

pale prairie
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yeah we can talk shit about people like those old muppets

strong gulch
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Wall hacks was already good.

pale prairie
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that is all

tiny tartan
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Okay lol?

pale prairie
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Unfortunately I have no comments for zealot greatsword weirdness cause I have never played the class

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you saying it feels like youre moving when you swing?

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I think there's a little bit of shifting as you swing the sword yeah. Like knife stabs move you forwards

tiny tartan
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Not quite, y'know how when you try to dodge when you're out of dodges and you sort of do this slow glide?

pale prairie
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yeah

tiny tartan
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Its like that, but while moving while swinging with the basic light combo

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It does this with other weapons too, but the FBG is the biggest one I've seen

pale prairie
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huh I think I notice a little bit of movement but nothing I would qualify as a soft dodge

tiny tartan
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Like certain swings will lock you into that "dodge exhaustion" state

pale prairie
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I think that might just be the slowness of the sword they added on purpose to balance it a bit

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I think they wanted players to not have the snappy response and movement of lighter weapons while still having the power of FGS. OR it could just be bad code lmao

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never know with this game

tiny tartan
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Yeah thats why I figured I'd ask, with how esoteric the game's mechanics can be sometimes

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Noticed it never happens with the relic blade

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Thank you for actually speculating and not being a weirdo about it LOL

pale prairie
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Might be on purpose with relic blade since the zealot is supposed to be a snappy melee combatant

tiny tartan
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🤜🏻

pale prairie
pale prairie
tiny tartan
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I am looking for an excuse to screw around with some new weapons, I'll do that

pale prairie
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They also get a talent that negates movement penalties when heavy swinging so maybe it is just a mechanic

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It would make sense on FGS with psyker cause it is a very strong weapon

tiny tartan
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Its SUPER noticeable with FGS since I run a scrier's build with alot of movement nodes

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So I go from zipping and zooming everywhere to gliding through molasses immediately

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Super jarring

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Its like its not even reduced or anything, its like, hard locked the same movement speed as dodge exhaust

pale prairie
tiny tartan
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Which makes me think its

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Yeah

pale prairie
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Do you hold down or rapidly press?

tiny tartan
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Rapidly press, it usually happens with the triple light combo

pale prairie
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That’s the recommended horde clear with both weapon MARKS

tiny tartan
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Thats a good idea, I already weapon swap on zealot to animation cancel

pale prairie
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Also I don’t know if you already mix it in but I find the dodge sliding or sprint sliding to really mitigate any slowness while wielding

strong gulch
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There are movement curves that seem to get more fecked up or more punishing the deeper you get into FGS.

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I don't know specifics, but they are more noticeable on the FGS when they get feck you over.

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So yeah, resetting combos seems to help.

pale prairie
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Hey potato how did your havoc go?

strong gulch
pale prairie
strong gulch
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So got the weekly H40. Now we oops the rest.

strong gulch
pale prairie
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The shinies have been secured. All that matters

strong gulch
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Now we just band our heads against the same H40 mission but suspiciously don't get better.

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No don't say that. 😭

spring ivy
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The early days of psyker arrows filling the screen…

pale prairie
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How does one learn this power?

dull scroll
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another arby player going toe to toe with inferno shriek dmg, that class is an abomination 😒

sturdy reef
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shouldve gone scriers inferno

dull scroll
# ripe obsidian Do more damage. >:(

you don't understand, people playing in these games are like wolves charging rooms ahead munching everything
everybody wants to kill everything and nobody wants to share

sturdy reef
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mom said its my turn to kill the room

dull scroll
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literally have to frontline psyker if you want to even compete in damage

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otherwise you are left with scrapes

ripe obsidian
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Ended up in a game with macro guy again

dull scroll
# ripe obsidian

holy shit so that's what that other guy said he saw the other day

ripe obsidian
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Yeah, probably

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He does it with melee too, just didn't record that

dull scroll
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guy was using all that and still getting shitfaced 😂

ripe obsidian
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I had a rough night of games. Wasn't playing well, and didn't have teams good enough to compensate for my badness.

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It is. This guy has the sort of page/bowl haircut and red prisoner garb, if that helps.

zealous wing
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not even melk wanted to give me a +3 stam 😭

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watch this, i'm going to finally get one, and then i'll end up with dozens

marble crater
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That's usually how it goes

zealous wing
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i just wanna run a little bit longer 😭 im so much slower, that 5% node really helped me keep up kek

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it feels kinda like the other classes are like "YES! SLAUGHTER!" and the psyker is just "i hope my head doesnt explode today"

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and kinda meanders forward

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HAH YES

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i just had to bitch about it

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i can now sell my shame

white valley
patent jacinth
strong gulch
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Discord manifest

marble crater
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I just want force swords with dueling sword mobility, Fatshark please

hearty wolf
marble crater
strong gulch
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Was meeting ok? Should I take it to DMs?

white valley
hearty wolf
white valley
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Why does a force sword or a devil's claw give as much sprint speed as an eviscerator?

hearty wolf
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Tldr I swear too much and apparently made the atmosphere awkward (I didn't, so I know who made the report because they're the only one not in the know)

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Now time to spike their drink

strong gulch
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Glad it was fine. 😅

marble crater
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"Someone reported me for saying bad words, so I will commit a felony"

hearty wolf
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"Report this!"

zealous wing
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no no you gotta get a paper trail going of how often they lie first

hearty wolf
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They don't lie

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They're just too much of a "good friend"

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Maybe it's time for a good old trolly problem

marble crater
white valley
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Poxburster problem

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You are a shroudfield zealot, there is a psyker behind you, and a poxburster ahead of you, what do you do?

marble crater
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Run away

modest perch
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backstab it for the penance

marble crater
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Dump aggro

hearty wolf
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Invis and push towards the Psyker to reset intensity

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Aggro any DH in the area too for maximum profit

modest perch
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if u c something

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blow it up

white valley
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Voidblast can be played as blaze or with rending shockwave

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As for how to, you just want to blow shit up, prioritize elites, especially melee ones so you knock them down, and clear hordes with it

pure scaffold
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Flak + crit. Nexus + Blazing

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Always try to full charge

white valley
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Or X + Flak with Flurry + Rending for non-blaze build

pure scaffold
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Check out this build

marble crater
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Voidblast ball?

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The normal primary attack?

pure scaffold
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Rarely

marble crater
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Only if there is nothing in range to get blasted, or if you need/want to suppress a bunch of ranged enemies

pure scaffold
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Usually brain burst is more reliable

strong gulch
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If you have melee frontliners who likely need to kill things to get toughness back then hit the back of the pack of enemies to send them to your teammates. If thing are breaking through the front line, correct that. If there are shooters while this is happening, prioritize them.

If you have a vet or other psyker trying to take care of ranged but are getting surrounded, focus on what is in melee range.

If everything is all good and no one needs toughness and you're bascially just waiting for the horde to be killed, blast the feck out of it.

plucky flax
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I always target burster with dog so it gets knocked closer to team.

wispy bay
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It is just critical thinking really. If the immediate danger is the horde, then M2. If you need to kill that one guy in the down time, M1.

pure scaffold
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Let the Big E take the wheel

strong gulch
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LMB has a lot of suppression. That can be useful in ranged unit management. If you are ok at aiming (not even good), LMB is not bad at dealing with ranged for kill times.

If you are just bad at aiming, BB then.

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It me. I'm bad at aiming.

marble crater
marble crater
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Wasn't my fault

plucky flax
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Why am I stared at. staregryn

zealous wing
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is there an easy-ish way to tell what role someone is trying to fill in pubs (if they have a flow. its easy to tell if they dont arby running ahead and running around scrounging for ammo the entire time while instantly doublepinging any enemy they look at

marble crater
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Can look at their weapons, blitz and ability

zealous wing
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i dont think theres a way to do that in QP, is there?

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like, if im spawned while mission is going already

deft stump
zealous wing
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karien i am MP baby dont stare at me like that 😭

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kk

deft stump
marble crater
zealous wing
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so, with experience, got it

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want to make sure im not missing obvious things is all

deft stump
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They folded the moment the boss spawned. Very fun solo.

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When your boss damage is a bistol bleed...

strong gulch
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Take stuff that can deal with anything, whatever isn't dying fast is your job.

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Hope it isn't monsters that stay alive forever.

marble crater
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Smite, Inferno and illisi

strong gulch
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I now have crafted a wax seal that isn't shitty. I like it. It is good enough.

marble crater
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Nice, now sleep

strong gulch
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Actually, the sun is rising and Kat confirmed that I'm a vampire.

upper sun
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oh no framless prisoner in my game

strong gulch
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so good point

upper sun
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drink coffee and make more wax seals

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the emperor demands it

marble crater
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Kat had pretty solid evidence

strong gulch
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citrus seal to pray away scurvy

zinc phoenix
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Idk why more barbies not doing boss damage in havoc

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Like 90% of team wipe is literally “boss dps check fail”

deft stump
patent jacinth
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Most arbitrator weapons do

zinc phoenix
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This is why I take gun shield 😂

deft stump
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It's literally shooting things 4 times and whack.

strong gulch
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I either get arbies who munch monsters or ones who want to throw shock mines at the horde.

patent jacinth
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Caxe is good at it and like

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That’s it for melees

zinc phoenix
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I know there’s still a boss delete barbie

marble crater
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Best arby weapons are shield and shield, it fits very well and is cool

hearty wolf
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No

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Just because someone has a thunder hammer doesn't mean they're going to use it

deft stump
hearty wolf
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Or even be alive to use it

rigid sky
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Shield and maul 11 is pretty good vs single target I thought

patent jacinth
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Unyielding modifier

rigid sky
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It's nearly all pokes, overheads and uppercuts

marble crater
zinc phoenix
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Yesterday in a 40h game I had a helbore vet. Individually very good but we kept getting rolled by captain spam. Double psyker + ogg and vet. Other guy went bubble flamer so i did trauma shriek and we moved very fast against basically everything except captains 😂

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Feel like barbie handles captains pretty good

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Stole their build tho

white valley
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Arbies can do great boss damage with exaction shotgun and boltgun

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For melee they don't have any stupendous options though

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By boss I mean unyielding

wispy bay
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Wot? All mauls are good vs boss with Arby.

white valley
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Captains and twins are flak so it's a bit different

strong gulch
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They do have talents for heckin monster DPS tho

white valley
hearty wolf
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No I'm on onboard with this idea

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Give Arby more boss damage

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It really needs it

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I can't solo 6 bosses at the same time with it

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Only 5

marble crater
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Buff blaze trauma

hearty wolf
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It needs buff

strong gulch
glacial vapor
white valley
wispy bay
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You don't even need the boss damage nodes for arby to be honest.

strong gulch
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EK buff

fire trauma buff

wispy bay
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But it is always a plus to have.

hearty wolf
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It needs 1.5x adm against unyielding

white valley
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Sure I totally said its bad

wispy bay
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Also, bolter doesn't do as good boss damage as the IAR.

white valley
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Keep misconstruing what I said fam, it's a good look

zinc phoenix
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Idk I never feel like unyielding dmg is low, I always feel like it’s captain spam that gets teams because nobody has a fast melee to grind the shield down fast

hearty wolf
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It's not stupendous, it's balanced that arb can kill bosses in sub 5s with a maul 😭

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They haven't fixed the interaction yet have they?

wispy bay
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Well, 2 psykers is a lot of melee speed gone...

hearty wolf
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With Forceful?

zinc phoenix
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I’m tempted to run one but usually if I run a melee I get a psyker who drops 5s into mission

hearty wolf
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Probs have a pic somewhere

white valley
zinc phoenix
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I like nuncio, idk if it’s good

strong gulch
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If purg or trauma, then psyker likely has deimos, DS, or knife. All of those have pretty quick lights.

Bursting the captain down tho after the shield break. KEKW_ogryn (unless you're that macro player)

hearty wolf
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.

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That's what I currently use

zinc phoenix
wispy bay
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Well, knife is there, but it is tiresome to use.

hearty wolf
# white valley The problem is the talent tree, not the weapons

The A shock maul has one of the best moveset for unyielding. It's like Rashad on crack. It has way better range too. And you have a DoT which you can max.

It's unyielding damage is also pretty fucking stupid. You're not hitting as much as branx per hit but the attack speed at base makes up for it on captains alone.

And THEN you factor into the talent tree and it's a mess

zinc phoenix
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I love that shock maul

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Tasing baddies with it is hilarious

wispy bay
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You say that arby doesnt have impressive melee vs monstrosity, while saying that shotgun is good... despite shotgun is not even that exceptional.

hearty wolf
zinc phoenix
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I hard carried a mael after full team wipe with barbie the other day because dog and shock maul solve all the problems 😂

wispy bay
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Kind of, but you need to reload it way too often. Once you have to reload, you loss like half of the DPS.

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We started the convo at H40, so I assume H40.

white valley
wispy bay
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Because other class have better weapons and synergy?

zinc phoenix
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Shock maul zel would be funny

wispy bay
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Does Arby have PSword? Relic sword? Dualing Sword? Or Knife synergy?

wispy bay
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Shock maul is very good on zealot, but they just have better option.

zinc phoenix
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Idk why every zel I see is ds

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Like you have relic sword right there

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It’s so good

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Why would you take a pig sticker instead???

strong gulch
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I should try the relic sword.

zinc phoenix
strong gulch
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I should try zealot. KEKW_ogryn

radiant frigate
wispy bay
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Relic sword will make you question FGS...

radiant frigate
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for any other zealots, bring glory to him by slaughtering heretics with big sword

wispy bay
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stay away from it.

radiant frigate
zinc phoenix
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FGS is a battery you fill to mega dump a giga cleave wave

radiant frigate
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i like relic blade a lot, don't get me wrong

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but it's no fgs

zinc phoenix
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RS is the “will it blend” of swords

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The answer is always yes 🙏

radiant frigate
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slicing heretics in half with relic blade is great and all but it's not as good as claiming their souls and then using them to kill their compatriots

hearty wolf
radiant frigate
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also, FGS finally answered the question of "do ogryns have souls" that the zealots like to talk about

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and turns out the bodyguard was right

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ogryns have BIG soul

strong gulch
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I refer to zealot big sword as "This Sword Fucks" because someone randomly said it and that's what imbedded in my memory. TSF™

wispy bay
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Rsword, have soul or not, you are a heretic to die.

white valley
zinc phoenix
wispy bay
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Being nice and being honest are not the same thing.

radiant frigate
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ogryn psyker dlc when?

white valley
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The Seer literally tells zealots that abhumans do have souls and many other creatures they don't like do as well

radiant frigate
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with all due respect, the seer is batshit insane

wispy bay
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Soul is the same thing, size no different.

radiant frigate
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oh yeah spiders do not have souls, for sure

zinc phoenix
wispy bay
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But intelligence does... for whatever reason.

radiant frigate
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like i said

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big ogryn, big soul

white valley
white valley
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The Seer knows about Horus lmao

radiant frigate
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that's because the beloved knows

white valley
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Indeed, the emperor knows

wispy bay
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It is funny, because in the lore, old deamon impersonates the big E, and with their knowledge from the HH, feld people with edited truth to turn them to chaos.

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Basically, this Imperium isn't what he wants, so you have to cleanse it... by doing this ritual.

deft stump
zinc phoenix
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Empire’s buzzfeed is run by demons just like IRL buzzfeed

deft stump
white valley
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I think the Beloved is the emperor tbh, it's poetic grimdark in a way

marble crater
hearty wolf
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In the last month, I've played everything

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Aside from the asthmatic

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Can we get a TF2 intro for vet 🤔

hard widget
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The beloved is def emprah

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There's a bunch of dialogue that alludes to it

boreal swallow
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I think the Seer psyker might think Beloved is the Emperor, but it might switch between a few warp entities.
Sometimes Beloved says stuff about killing everyone including your teammates, and a few conversations are about turning whole people inside out for fun. So a bit of Khorne and Tzeench.
Some of the stuff about Beasts of Nurgle being friendly are probably suggestions from Nurgle daemons.
I don't know of lines or anything from Slanesh.

hard widget
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I'd like to get rid of the beloved psyker personality though, I'm getting bored of it

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Oh yeah, it's a good distinction that's it's the psyker who believes the beloved is the emprah

upper sun
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WRONG

strong gulch
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All I know is that my seer is afraid of doors. Which valid. Door being a monster killer intentional?? Is it cannon? Seer also "hears the music" when things get dangerous.

white valley
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Two days ago I was in a match where a captain evaporated from a door

wispy bay
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The issue that so many things in in 40K, especially warp entities, have information about the Imperium and big E. So while it is cool to think it is big E, there is not until further confirmation.

white valley
zealous wing
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well i know its not loner that mentions being scared of doors, but, he is concerned about heights

wispy bay
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"Unlike you, whelp, I once walked the same ground as your idol. I breathed the same air as him. And I tell you this, without lie or artifice. He never wanted to become what you have made him! He did not wish to be your god-thing. He abhorred such ideals! The slavery of your crippled, blind Imperium would sicken him, if he had eyes to see it." - Fabius, a Chaos Space Marine in the current 40K time.

zealous wing
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rather, "allergic to falling"

white valley
strong gulch
white valley
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Oh yes mine gets excited about stairs too

zealous wing
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same

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psykers love stairs

wispy bay
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Stair to the Blackship you go.

white valley
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No, Beloved, it's not a good dog!

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Emperor likes dogs confirmed

zealous wing
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fav dog one i've heard others say is "no i dont think it wants to play"

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the VA's genuinely did a good job, some of the banter makes me laugh so hard

white valley
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Fatshark dialogue is immaculate

zealous wing
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i love the complete shriek my loner does when i tag a hound

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or if i mess up a data interrogation, the "what!? NO!" also brings a smile to my face

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it keeps it from getting frustrating

white valley
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Loners are very loud

strong gulch
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Oggy wanting to protect psyker because psyker screams a lot when their in danger. Oggy just wants to vibe.

white valley
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And german

deft stump
white valley
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True, female one is french right?

radiant frigate
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no that's savant

deft stump
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I think.

radiant frigate
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fem loner is the funny slav witch

white valley
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Ahh

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I don't hear many psykers these days

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(I do not accept them for havoc)

deft stump
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Mostly seers, tbh.

white valley
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(Because I'm on psyker already)

zealous wing
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yeah, mostly seers. i've run into maybe 5 or 6 other male loners in the time i've played?

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probably a europe thing tho

white valley
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Loner can be a bit grating

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I see a fair amount of savants though

deft stump
zealous wing
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it can be, but, it makes me laugh more than it annoys me, the others didnt appeal to me, so it was a "which am i less likely to hate"

white valley
deft stump
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Ah, that.

white valley
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Like Cadian vet

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CADIAAAAAAAAAAAAA

zealous wing
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GOD the cadian whining

deft stump
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That's it.

white valley
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THERE IS ONLY WAR

zealous wing
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the fem cutthroat annoys me so much

white valley
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Fem cutthroat barely talks tbh

zealous wing
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unless its a bot apparently

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they NEVER SHUT up

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"cadia fell and placing like this are still standing?" or something

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stop whining and shoot more

deft stump
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You got the genders mixed.

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The male one is the one that won't shut up.

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Female... unless you are butt hugging one, huh?

white valley
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Fem cutthroat is very stoic

zealous wing
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the shouty one is also annoying

white valley
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Male cutthroat is just his problems are everyone else's problems

zealous wing
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ogryn: "head hurt when you talk
her: "IS THAT WHY YOU DON'T LISTEN?"

deft stump
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Actually annoys everyone.

zealous wing
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otherewise tho the VA's did good, but, when the only bots you get are vets you get REAL tired of their bullshit

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sadly though thats probably the only class that could feasably BE a bot

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at least with the way the bots work now

white valley
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Fem fanatic is a riot

glacial vapor
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Just run Loose Cannon so they can give them shit

loud girder
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Cadian vet is cool

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Passionate af

marble crater
hard widget
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Roughneck vet is the bomb

upper sun
deft stump
loud girder
marble crater
marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
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Yes loregryn

strong gulch
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Feck. I forgot to check melk. I want more +1 stam curios.

zealous wing
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WHY

strong gulch
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Funny

marble crater
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Do +1 stam curios even exist?

deft stump
# zealous wing WHY

Never question Beans if you like your sanity. Also never mention RNG psyker builds.

strong gulch
marble crater
marble crater
strong gulch
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Also rolling for random melk weapons at level 1 always seem to be 76s.

strong gulch
marble crater
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Can't wait to play RNG builds in Helldivers staregryn

deft stump
strong gulch
white valley
#

Disagree

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Sefoni should moan more

upper sun
#

they disabled moaning

#

trials got nerfed

strong gulch
#

I haven't played the new harder trials before they got nerfed. Sad

jovial juniper
hearty wolf
#

Bruh why did they nerf it lul

upper sun
#

no

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just from when they added brahms

upper sun
#

im talking about the moan nerfs

strong gulch
marble crater
#

Sad day

deft stump
#

Blame ppl who hate it because they can't calm themselves.

white valley
#

I wish those people many poxbursters jumping on them

hearty wolf
#

Pox busters explosions don't feel very

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Like

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BOOM

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It does a lot of damage but where's the acreenshake

weary idol
#

it's a burst of pox

hearty wolf
#

It should leave a crater too 🤔

white valley
#

Technically

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It's a melta charge

#

It should be way worse lmao

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Poxbursters are just poxwalkers strapped with a melta bomb

hearty wolf
#

Melta

#

Sounds so ghetto

loud girder
#

makeshift melta

#

proper melta would have 1 shotted us gigaxi

hearty wolf
#

What does it taste like 🤔

icy breach
loud girder
#

vet moment

hearty wolf
#

I recall seeing 90hp

loud girder
icy breach
loud girder
#

fun fact u can 1 shot yourself with a melta charge in sm2

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unalived myself too many times trigerring it too early

white valley
icy breach
white valley
#

I run 1x health and 1x toughness on psyker and prefer it significantly over 2x toughness

radiant frigate
white valley
#

Toughness is a replenishable resource and most DR is TDR, but on the other hand melee attacks deal 2x damage to toughness, and health also protects from corruption

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Additionally, the relative increase you get for stacking the same stat decreases the more of it you stack

hearty wolf
hearty wolf
#

I run 1h1t1s on everything because it's balanced

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If you have two of one stat

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It's ugly

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So either triple stamina or one of each

#

That's the only way

white valley
#

It's why dreg and scab bruisers hit you once and blow up your toughness

radiant frigate
#

is it now

icy breach
white valley
white valley
#

Some attacks even have crazy multipliers like burgle melee having a 20x multiplier to toughness damage

hearty wolf
upper sun
icy breach
deft stump
white valley
#

Arbitrator's live reaction when the Crusher overheads them but they have true grit chadgryn

white valley
upper sun
#

yes

white valley
#

I am telling my Beloved

upper sun
#

my beloved says ""continue playing flavor of the patch classes""

white valley
#

Oh okay you're all good then

upper sun
#

next patch is zealot/vet chadgryn

#

zealot tree rework is gonna be fire

marble crater
#

Dumpster fire, yes

upper sun
#

NO U

#

thammer WILL be buffed

#

and i WILL get a stamina node for marty

loud girder
#

zealot will be brought up to ogryn/arbeetus power level

#

hammer will 1 shot everything withing 30 meter radius

upper sun
#

@pale prairie same goes to u

pale prairie
#

I’ll believe it when I see it

#

Was hoping for some meaningful patches since there was this whole announcement and stuff but it was just a buff for the arbiter

pale prairie
loud girder
#

well the announcement happened cause the class people paid money for had it's strongest keystone not working properly

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and people were rightfully upset

loud girder
pale prairie
loud girder
#

it was always ridiculous

#

its just working like it was on release now

white valley
upper sun
#

nah its fine

white valley
#

It needs to be decoupled from wounds

upper sun
#

just slap on "+1 stamina per missing wound" and its peak

jovial juniper
#

Leaked martyrdom rework
It gives impact instead of melee damage

white valley
#

It's bad design, Zealot in VT2 doesn't work like that

white valley
#

Missing HP is better

loud girder
#

cica explained how marty works in vt2 and it sounded a lot better than dt version

#

ngl

white valley
#

Then you just stack hp for martyrdom

pale prairie
# loud girder it was always ridiculous

I guess I had forgotten that an arbiter could double my damage by just throwing dogs, grenades, and shotgun shells into groups of enemies while running from armor. (They missed a bunch of shots too). I am fine with being out skilled but out talented hurts.

jovial juniper
upper sun
jovial juniper
#

Oh also

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Shroudfield giving perfect block

loud girder
jovial juniper
#

💀

loud girder
#

arbeetus and ogryn are just easier to play

upper sun
#

remove ALL stealth from the game

jovial juniper
loud girder
#

perfect block after u break stealth or what

jovial juniper
#

💀

#

You know what?
Make it so it's like Shade

#

Perfect Block = stealth

#

Welcome back Shade

#

(I still don't know how to play shade)

pale prairie
#

Pfff does this game even have perfect block?

loud girder
#

yeah

jovial juniper
#

Yesnt

pale prairie
#

I mean I know it does but there’s no queue

loud girder
#

ogryn and arbeetus have perfect block talents

pale prairie
loud girder
#

zealot has a perfect block talent on relic blade

summer prairie
#

and zealot will have more after rework

jovial juniper
#

Shock Maul has a perfect block blessing

pale prairie
#

So define exactly the window and how to do it?

jovial juniper
#

It's like

white valley
#

It has perfect block but it does nothing on its own

jovial juniper
#

0.3 seconds before the hit

white valley
#

Only triggers blessings and talents

loud girder
#

perfect block only ever benefits you if it triggers a talent

white valley
#

And all of them suck

loud girder
#

sounds peak

jovial juniper
#

And Dclaw parry locking stamina consumption to 2

jovial juniper
#

Like
You stealth
Go in and find yourself surrounded or something

#

Type deal

loud girder
#

should have had perfect block on fotf gigaxi

jovial juniper
#

Another 500 reasons to never pick anything else

loud girder
#

as god intended

white valley
#

Should give me something to do during chorus instead

upper sun
#

chorus bad

zinc phoenix
white valley
#

Chorus is more boring than bad

upper sun
#

boring is bad tbh

weary idol
zinc phoenix
white valley
#

But do elaborate

loud girder
#

someone made a mod that adds a sound effect on perfect block and it solves the issue completely

weary idol
#

zealot as a class is usually quite capable of killing large amounts of armor quickly, or monstrosities

#

chorus means you are not doing that for 5 whole seconds

#

in Havoc it's okay because yeah golden toughness can't really be bad there

zealous wing
#

a class being capable and a player being capable are two very different things

white valley
weary idol
#

In Aurics you're just doing nothing

white valley
#

I don't care about aurics

weary idol
#

Who is directly better than Chorus Zealot at Chorus Zealot things

#

And still gets to contribute to damage :)

#

The literal only thing Chorus Zealot does that a shout Vet can't is stagger lock monstrosities

#

Vet can technically do the same with kraks but kraks are limited use

loud girder
#

chorus is a good in a team comp where u have 3 other high dps mfs

#

its just boring to play

weary idol
#

Yeah but you could also just be shout vet instead

#

and be a 4th high dps mf

loud girder
#

true

weary idol
#

while stil offering almost all of chorus utility

#

(and then some because ammo aura/smokes)

loud girder
#

i said this before turn chorus into a nuncio thingie

#

so u dont have to watch a cutscene while using it

white valley
#

Place a relic on the floor, and your zealot chants while fighting

loud girder
#

just turn the relic into a banner

#

u plant the banner instead of holding it

zinc phoenix
#

and then people would just go back to using fury or whatever its calld now

#

the balancign factor for chorus today is you cant do damage while doing it

loud girder
#

didnt think about that at all tbh i was just going by rule of cool

#

its not like they're gonna actually change it anyway since chorus is pretty popular

weary idol
hearty wolf
#

Make the flag duration scale with enemy killed with the flag

#

You pull it out as a melee weapon

#

And impale whatever you need want on it

#

7 bursts if you stick it to a crusher

#

10 if you bonk it into a boss

loud girder
#

looka at this funny man

icy breach
white valley
#

That's just nuncio aquila basically

icy breach
white valley
#

I know

icy breach
#

I WANT MY BABY

white valley
#

But mechanically it would be identical

icy breach
icy breach
#

Imo

#

Chorus is good as it is

white valley
#

Ye, just boring af

icy breach
#

Got slightly nerfed on toughness gain & max, toughness dr got increased to balance it out (its better tbh)

icy breach
white valley
#

Aye I got a bit tired of zealot

#

But it's not just chorus

icy breach
white valley
#

It's the talent tree not letting me do what I want

icy breach
#

Aka second wind & enduring faith carrying every zealot build

white valley
#

Beacon of purity the preferred aura in many havocs but the talents to get to it are F tier

#

Every zealot taking knives because since you grabbed enduring faith and second wind you might as well take knives

icy breach
icy breach
#

And ppl don’t see it

deft stump
white valley
deft stump
white valley
#

The good zealot talents are just good regardless of your weapons lol

icy breach
icy breach
white valley
deft stump
icy breach
white valley
#

Also the emperor's bullet is awful

icy breach
white valley
#

Swap sainted gunslinger's place with emperor's bullet

deft stump
icy breach
deft stump
#

I think is just a tax node.

#

Does nothing.

icy breach
#

Tried making it work

#

It was bad

white valley
#

Emperor's Bullet when I use a flamer with Everlasting Flame (it literally never procs)

icy breach
white valley
#

And why does Hammer of Faith exist so close to Emperor's Bullet

icy breach
#

It was too short to benefit from the buff

white valley
#

Why not fuse the two? 30% impact at all times and 10% atk speed for 10-15s after emptying ranged

deft stump
icy breach
white valley
#

Fatshark should hire me

deft stump
#

So useless tax node.

white valley
#

I am sane and can be trusted with nuclear bombs

icy breach
#

Don’t you fking anime face react me @deft stump ; i know you’re jealous but i am a free man

deft stump
#

10 days before I get a gremlin annoying me physically again.

#

Well, another gremlin.

marble crater
deft stump
#

Puppo already does it.

marble crater
#

GF coming to visit again or will you do the visiting this time?

deft stump
#

She has a habit of coming in and poking me when I do H40.

plucky flax
#

She wants to meet the legendary UnsanctionedPsyker.

marble crater
#

Wha... what is she using to poke you? staregryn

deft stump
deft stump
marble crater
#

Oh no, the horror

pale prairie
#

I want to meet Arbysbeefsandwich now that’s a pro

pale prairie
deft stump
white valley
#

Yes but gfs are like cats

#

They do not care, they require attention and you must comply

deft stump
deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
deft stump
#

She knows I'm doing it!

white valley
marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
#

You can be both

deft stump
#

She currently likes Ting Yun too much.

plucky flax
#

Furries D:

pale prairie
deft stump
marble crater
#

Karien could do it in 10 if she didn't have to carry the others

deft stump
#

At least, I'm not.

marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
#

Okay, 5 minutes

pale prairie
deft stump
marble crater
#

Sitgryn I'm sorry, please no flame

deft stump
pale prairie
marble crater
#

Lies is German for "read" loregryn

pale prairie
#

Console players usually can’t

#

That’s why they don’t use text chat only VC

deft stump
marble crater
#

Of course console players can't read, there are only like 7 different letters on a controller, if you are lucky

deft stump
marble crater
#

A, B, X,Y, R, T, L

zealous wing
#

sometimes S, no?

pale prairie
#

Nintendo has Z

zealous wing
#

^

marble crater
#

Playstation might have the least?

pale prairie
#

Yeah square and triangle aren’t really letters

marble crater
deft stump
zealous wing
#

karien is so done with our bullshit

pale prairie
#

HALP KARIEN IS FLAMING ME

marble crater
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

Karien is a champion, tried and true.

pale prairie
#

You can tell that she speedruns havoc cause she’s in every chat thread of the discord at the same time.

#

True god mode

deft stump
#

I need to persuade a mod to rename Psyker mains into Gaslight mains.

marble crater
#

Do the other channels also treat you like this? loregryn

brazen compass
deft stump
#

Vet mains at times, but they treat me as a useless mascot instead.

brazen compass
#

I mean come on, she literally invented the Psyker class

marble crater
ripe obsidian
deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
#

I have seen players a lot worse with a lot less ping KEKW_ogryn

pale prairie
brave drift
#

did the game performance just tank after the update for anyone else?

pale prairie
brave drift
pale prairie
#

I haven’t experienced that personally. Might be an issue with the fact they tried to patch the buff bar. Maybe try turning off any mods you have affecting that?

brave drift
pale prairie
marble crater
#

I had no problems, but I took a look at my buff bar yesterday and holy shit

pale prairie
brave drift
brave drift
boreal swallow
brave drift
#

honestly I thought it was just a common thing each update with Fatshark tbf.

pale prairie
marble crater
#

I have never even seen these buffs, I don't know what to do with all this information

deft stump
deft stump
#

They are as bad as you think. That 3 arby 1 psyker? US W.

pale prairie
deft stump
#

I just was slacking on my lone wulf BTL shock mine build.

deft stump
#

Something something Arby handler for an explosive minded psyker.

pale prairie
pale prairie
deft stump
#

I just had to solo a chaos spawn after everyone died.

#

On top of the armoured karking mess.

deft stump
#

When my boss damage is a karking bistol.

pale prairie
pale prairie
deft stump
#

Which is why the other two arbies are dead.

#

No true grit.

pale prairie
#

Crazy. With EO arbie is brain dead easy now

deft stump
#

I play stagger tank support.

pale prairie
deft stump
#

BtL is the charge, but I also have that.

ripe obsidian
marble crater
#

Charge, exploding dog, EO, arby life is good

pale prairie
deft stump
marble crater
#

I didn't crash yesterday staregryn

#

Only died Sitgryn

ripe obsidian
#

EO is back to being OP now that it's fixed, I imagine?

pale prairie
pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
#

Damn you do carry Agent

marble crater
#

Imagine how good she would be with mods

summer prairie
#

this rumbler ogryn has 7x more ranged than melee damage, barely more melee than psyker

plucky flax
#

Your fault for taking rumbler oggy.

ripe obsidian
# deft stump I don't mod.

For what it's worth, none of the mods or drivers I tried got my game back to the framerate it used to have.

deft stump
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

I tried like 5 different drivers, DDU'd between

marble crater
deft stump
#

Cos they work with some older games I play.

ripe obsidian
deft stump
summer prairie
#

ogryn melee horde damage was like 12k

marble crater
tulip kettle
pale prairie
tulip kettle
#

do you get comission?

deft stump
marble crater
tulip kettle
#

shilling erryday

deft stump
#

If only they gave me sample controllers.

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
marble crater
#

They are great controllers and also affordable, one of the few that can't get stick drift

pale prairie
deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

I wish the arguably tankiest class didn't also have the arguably highest damage output

deft stump
#

Of all things.

marble crater
pale prairie
white valley
#

Psyker gonna learn biomancy

#

And turn their flesh to steel

pale prairie
#

Self heal on damage

white valley
#

Start throwing hands

deft stump
#

Is like Mi and Remax. Quality products from China.

marble crater
deft stump
#

Some companies just sell decent stuff because is better long term.

ripe obsidian
#

My solution: remove Arbiter entirely and replace all bots with bleed dog.

zealous wing
#

they would never though, they'd have to refund, and that aint happenin

ripe obsidian
#

I miss my 16 bleeds stacks instantly on every enemy in range dog.

#

It was insanely broken, but it was funny

deft stump
marble crater
#

I want bots that learn from how you play the game loregryn I want to train my own bots and then I want to see if I can do h40 with my skill level alone and how well I can

zealous wing
#

i would train the bots to never use the med station, and always stand next to barrels for me

marble crater
white valley
marble crater
#

loregryn yes

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

Still sitting at 50-60 FPS during hordes

timber parcel
#

We need the psykers in here to explain that arbitrator is nowhere close

zealous wing
#

to what

tulip kettle
zealous wing
#

MISINPUT

#

I THOUGHT IT WAS THE AFK TIMER

#

😭

cloud prawn
#

Hi there! Does anyone have a good spot for the steam challenge "Cliffhanger" ?

ripe obsidian
marble crater
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
cloud prawn
ripe obsidian
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

I tried deleting my user_settings.config for the same effect without luck

white valley
#

Somehow the game has always ran fine for me

ripe obsidian
#

It used to run great for me. When I first started playing, Auric Maelstrom hordes would drop me from like 120 to 90 FPS. Now I am lucky to sit at 90 as a baseline, and hordes send me to 50-60. I could compensate for a while by turning down graphics settings, but now I'm at low for everything and it's not better

#

And it's only this game. Everything else runs fine. Cyberpunk on High/Ultra doesn't dip below 70 FPS. Oblivion Remaster on ultra sits at like 90-100

cloud prawn
ripe obsidian
#

Smite is the best way to get it, yes

cloud prawn
#

okay so I have to wait for a horde to jump on this location I'll use my ult and that should be done

#

ty I'll try that

marble crater
#

It's less reliable now because enemies also jump to the platform now instead of all coming from the top ledge

#

Still worth a try when playing the map anyway

brazen compass
ripe obsidian
#

Cliffhanger is an obnoxious penance

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
#

Apparently ray tracing can only be for real turned off by editing a config file….

marble crater
#

Sadge

ripe obsidian
#

Alas

zealous wing
ripe obsidian
#

Something weird I have noted: if I summon enemies in the Psykhanium, my FPS will be whatever, then if I go into options > graphics > change nothing > quit settings > my FPS is 40 higher until I spawn more enemies

tulip kettle
#

great game 🙂

pale prairie
marble crater
#

What a time to be alive and witness dom actually teaching new players instead of trolling in psyker chat uwugryn

plucky flax
#

Thats too hard

ripe obsidian
#

I go up 40 FPS by going into settings

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

Reistalling the Visual c++ Redistributable maybe helped

#

120 FPS in a solo match until the horde spawned, then between 70-80 FPS

#

So, better. At least in one test.

#

But I need to go to work

pale prairie
#

That’s hopeful!

iron flame
#

Just came back to the game, which staff is meta or pretty good ? Don't like to play Gunpsyker

white valley
#

Voidblast and Inferno are meta

marble crater
#

Some are more gooder than others

iron flame
#

Eh ... I leveled Arbites to lvl 30 in Heresy no problem so i figured i will move to Damnation since my psyker had like lvl power level 490s for their gear.

ripe obsidian
#

Inferno is meta in high havoc, but it is not so good at lower difficulties due to less density. Voidblast is good throughout. Elektro is good throughout, but falls off in high havoc. Voidstrike is good in Auric and falls off a cliff in Havoc.

zealous wing
#

falls off a cliff just like chaos

ripe obsidian
#

For Damnation, I would say EK > Voidstrike > Voidblast > Inferno. But that would probably change based on my mood

zealous wing
#

those clips will never not be funny to me)

ripe obsidian
#

Those first 3 at least. Inferno is worst in Damnation

#

Poor Voidstrike. :<

iron flame
#

Hmm did EK's meta changed or something ? Last i remembered, EK is bugged and is like oneshotting everyone

ripe obsidian
#

10 base cleave does not do anything against the like 3x hitmass of Havoc enemies

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

LMB headshots still one-shot H40 trash enemies

#

Or, I think they do. They seem to.

pale prairie
tulip kettle
#

i think they do when its not rampaging enemies