psyker-class

[wispy bay]

It doesn't.

But it has a blast radius.

[ornate hamlet]

Auric i kill them in 2 shots,unless i miss

Which happens often

[wispy bay]

Ok. this is not correct.

[tulip kettle]

YEAH IT DOESNT EVEN CLEAVE THEM

woops caps

i will say i am as far from an expert on vet stuff as its possible to be

but i do sometimes see multiple crushers taking dmg from 1 shot so im not sure whats hapening there

can at least cleave bulwarks

[wispy bay]

It happens all the time when targets are stacked on top on each other.

[tulip kettle]

and yeah plasma will 2 shot crushers in auric at high heat with an optimised build and gun set up

so, scale this to H40 and you are in for bad news bears.

[wispy bay]

Plasma is still one of the best weapon for Vet in H40 though. Many vet run plasma there.

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah sure

but i think thats more for the performance vs other ogryns types and such no?

again i know the least about vet of all classes

[wispy bay]

Just like... don't spend all of the ammo on carapace. One or 2 hits to soften them up then melee.

[wispy bay]

Correct. It has good breakpoint and killing speed against many enemies with good range and cleave.

[weary idol]

specialists not ogryn

plasma is mid into all ogryns

[marble crater]

Mag dumping is faster than switching to your sidearm

[weary idol]

outright bad into bulwarks

[tulip kettle]

why do you say its bad

?

[weary idol]

bulwarks have 4800 HP

[tulip kettle]

from a quick bit of testing i just did you can kill 3 bulwarks with 3 shots

as you can cleave them

that doesnt seem too bad

[weary idol]

Plasma takes minimum 3 shots if you headshot them

Can't cleave their shield

Shooting their shield takes 10 shots to kill

9 if you get lucky with crits

[wispy bay]

Yeah, but then not many weapons do anything to the shield...

[weary idol]

not many weapons have plasma ammo economy

[tulip kettle]

yeah not a great argument against, as it goes plasma seems to perform relatively well vs them compared to most other things

[weary idol]

or plasma's slow ass fire rate

3 shots from plasma is an eternity

[tulip kettle]

but i didnt play vet for over a year until literally yesterday

and im just testing stuff with spawner now

my question to you guys who know about vet stuff is, is the class basically unplayable in 40 without iron will?

[weary idol]

yeah

[tulip kettle]

seemed that way to me in the few games i played without it

[weary idol]

you are legit squishier than psyker without iron will

[tulip kettle]

and a just a general gripe - why TF is the decay time on bleeding stacks SO BAD

by the time i throw shredder number 2 the stacks from the first are already starting to drop, thats obscene.

meanwhile SB ticks TEN TIMES after last application before the stacks start to decay

[weary idol]

yeah that's why twinned blast is good

big bleed value

[tulip kettle]

even then, is it?

so you get stuff to like 10 stacks and then within 5 seconds everything back to 0 without further application of bleed

just seems so useless

[weary idol]

10 stacks of bleed kills horde enemies

at least if I'm remembering correctly

[tulip kettle]

i think with the explosion dmg and the bleed, yeah sure it will

[wispy bay]

Plasma is not that slow

[jovial juniper]

Because bleed bad

[tulip kettle]

i mean it really does seem to be

outside of uncanny knife shenanigans

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Cumulative damage of 389 against Unarmored/Infested

[tulip kettle]

karien gave me some awesome help with making vet builds. i came up with this based on her advice on what is good and my own experiences playing it yesterday. Im using this with taxe mk7 and a bleed bistol. Would you recommend any changes? i would ask in vet chat but psykers are giga brain players.

[wispy bay]

I would take inspiring present over iron will.

[sudden scaffold]

oops https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/12024290824466037091/1E983D6FCDC276AA013EB16308BBCBE900D337DA/

[tulip kettle]

i felt vet is unplayable without iron will

and others seemed to agree

in H40 at least

[wispy bay]

This is kind of my core build for Vet. H40 yes.

[tulip kettle]

oh so, you dont have out for blood

[wispy bay]

With Bpistol revolver or plasma.

[tulip kettle]

which explain why you wuld value inspiring more

[wispy bay]

Because I see the value it gives is a little pitiful, and Iron will only allow you to take 1 hit from any enemy.

[tulip kettle]

but surely if you are throwing shredders into a crowd it just fills your whole team toughness instantly

how is that little value?

[wispy bay]

And if it is for ranged... Close or Drill is ironically good.

[ripe obsidian]

All boss kills belong to me. >:)

[wispy bay]

With the density of H40, you get enough to relish. That 5% of the 15% is tiny for the team.

[tulip kettle]

its per kill

you kill 30 enemies by throwing twinned shredders

am i missing something?

[ripe obsidian]

"Replenishes 5% of maximum toughness on any kill; procs on melee and ranged kills as well as on kills from explosions and DoTs. Procs additionally to weapon blessings like Inspiring Barrage, Reassuringly Accurate, Gloryhunter.

For example, when the talent procs on a melee kill, it replenishes 5% of maximum toughness additionally to Veteran's base 5% of max toughness gained on melee kill. So killing three enemies with a melee attack with 184 max toughness, Veteran would replenish 184x(0.15+0.15)=55.2 toughness (HUD rounds: 56)."

[wispy bay]

Out for blood is 5% more toughness, Born leader is 15% of your replish to your team.

[tulip kettle]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

5% toughness per kill from any source

On top of melee kill toughness, too

[wispy bay]

If you take something like inspiring present, you get a better deal.

[tulip kettle]

no because then i dont get toughness from throwing shredders

[wispy bay]

I don't need toughness from shredder. Maybe I just play differently, I don't know.

[tulip kettle]

yes its better on melee kills, but its far less kills generating toughness overall, where out for blood means any kill i get works

though i was considering going close order and confirmed instead

but i also think +5% ms is better as a tax node than 1 stam as i am already running stam curio

[wispy bay]

Voc is my primary mean to get insta toughness. With a PA psyker, it works well enough for me.

[tulip kettle]

and also i notice you arent running twinned blast or stam regen delay reduction

yeah sure i mean shout spam is the thing but i like to not just be a shout bot

[wispy bay]

Because I have 5 points unused?

[tulip kettle]

so what would you use the 5 points on?

and with my playstyle i cant really afford to drop agile engagement

[wispy bay]

Depending on weapons, lasgun would be Shock troops, rapid gun would be onslaught, then ranged weak spot damage, or more melee damage, or many other things.

[tulip kettle]

its just too good when running with wep specialist and constantly hot swapping to bistol/zarona to kill disablers

[wispy bay]

Target focus for my in boss build

[tulip kettle]

and do you place value on the stam regen delay reduction minor nodes?

[wispy bay]

Take them down is just good overall because of the bonus ogryn damage, which can cut down one or 2 shots on reapers.

Yes, I do.

Because I often run Dclaw.

One of the best melee vs the cpt and lt.

[weary idol]

dclaw is extremely mid into captains

and especially the twins where it is outright bad

[wispy bay]

It doesn't kill them fast, but I can take the melee one attention so the 3 other dudes body the ranged one, it becomes quite efficient.

If the goal is solely to make scoreboard number, then power sword.

[radiant frigate]

the goal is murder

recommend weapon that helps with murder

[ripe obsidian]

So far in my testing of 25+ minute H40 games, Warp Battery averages about 4% more CDR than Wildfire and about 2% more Empyrean Empowerment damage boost over the course of a map. I need more data points.

This means nothing on its own.

[plucky flax]

Six wanna play?

[hearty wolf]

I can tell you

Drop KD

[plucky flax]

Although it's probably super late for you.

[summer prairie]

What does 4% more cdr mean

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

I must snooze.

[tulip kettle]

lunch break already?

[plucky flax]

I need some good players to carry me in no mods run.

[tulip kettle]

its 10am!

[plucky flax]

I am off work today.

[tulip kettle]

😄

[plucky flax]

But yeah normally I take break from 10 to 1.

[ripe obsidian]

It means that it's very difficult for me to track exactly when I am Shrieking and how many WS stacks I have, so I am trying to average things.

[summer prairie]

Right but does it mean 4% more shrieks or average shriek cooldown or what

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek cooldown.

[summer prairie]

so just taking your warp charge average and applying it to cooldown?

[hearty wolf]

You need E-shriek counter

[ripe obsidian]

More or less, yeah.

I know it is an imperfect metric

[summer prairie]

I can play but do we have a carry

[ripe obsidian]

Explain thy heresy

[plucky flax]

Karien is ignoring me.

[summer prairie]

not surprising

[plucky flax]

She said I got too noob.

She doesn't waste her time on uber noobs.

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1274487631987605674/GVHX15RXoAApby3-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[ripe obsidian]

pls no explode the meow

[radiant frigate]

the meow is okay, always lands on its feet

[ripe obsidian]

But it might cost one of its lives. D:

[hearty wolf]

Ngl I'm kind of not memeing

It's true KD makes you survive some crazy shit

But with 1 stamina curio

You're hardly ever going to need more stamina than that unless you're praying to god your team will save you

I don't get into those scenarios enough for it to be worth it

[glacial vapor]

Uses Stam curio and KD

[hearty wolf]

A toughness curio gives you 10 toughness

That's useless

[ripe obsidian]

KD means I can spam push without my block breaking

Stamina is for pushing, KD for blocking. :D

[hearty wolf]

It's just too much investment for defence

[summer prairie]

if you don't run KD, you might as well drop deflector too. It's fine but you are going to miss KD if you have to clutch

[white valley]

Duelling sword with stamina curio is goated

[glacial vapor]

Ah yes, all my clutches on psyker

[hearty wolf]

I don't want to drop deflector, it's still helpful because it gives you the ability to scout or cross heavy gunner locations

Like oubliette tunnel of doom

[summer prairie]

you run out of stamina in a second without KD

if you even have stamina in that situation

[ripe obsidian]

Deflector without KD does feel bad.

[hearty wolf]

Yuh but it's still enough to not allow you to escape with 0 stamina I find

[ripe obsidian]

Doesn't breaking block stagger you?

[hearty wolf]

Ye

Don't let it

[ripe obsidian]

So 0 stamina is a death sentence

[hearty wolf]

I'm not using it as a face tanking tool for gunners

More like

"I wonder what's around this corner?"

[ripe obsidian]

Neither am I, but sometimes you gotta block the pewpew

And a pair of reapers or gunners or even 5 shooters will tear your stamina apart

[hearty wolf]

Kill the pewpew at all cost and sacrifice bubble psykers who go too far ahead

There's a limit to even what KD can do with although I don't run stamina on deimos

Or curio

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos with +2 stamina is amazing with KD+Deflector

[hearty wolf]

But I want carapace damage and unyielding

The h2

You don't understand

How much dopamine it gives me

I kill all migrants

Mutants

[ripe obsidian]

I had 9 melee kills in my last game.

[hearty wolf]

What the fuck

I had 150k melee damage/ 2m damage dealt

[white valley]

Real psyker gaming

[ripe obsidian]

I had 1800k damage and like 50k melee damage, all on mutants, dogs, and probably twins or a captain

[white valley]

I basically only use my melee for mutants and the occasional dog who is too close

[ripe obsidian]

The game before that was a True Survivor run with 10 melee kills and 24k melee damage

[ripe obsidian]

I slap captains and twins as well, since they take reduced ranged damage and increased melee

[white valley]

I do but not always, depends on the rest of the spawns

[ripe obsidian]

Melee means I am losing Warp Nexus and Blaze Away stacks. Gross.

[plucky flax]

Karien taking too long so you wanna play @summer prairie

[white valley]

If trash keeps coming I stay on staff to give the team space

[summer prairie]

ok

[white valley]

But if there's a good opportunity I will melee the twins/captain

[ripe obsidian]

Well, yes. If it's a solo captain I run up and smack. If it's not, I burninate the world.

[hearty wolf]

It's also how far you can launch them

It has SO much impact

If I was playing golf

I'd bring a Deimos

[plucky flax]

I can't even double click on character to go to mourningstar.

How shit is this game without mods lol

[icy breach]

What a thing to type

[summer prairie]

have fun walking to the terminal

[plucky flax]

Yeah I have to run to the havoc terminal too.

[hearty wolf]

I also use it a fair amount on carapace on red. Sometimes I just take me time and flame them to death but I really do like caving a crusher or maulers head in

[icy breach]

Lazyass

[hearty wolf]

Ah fuck

I didn't realise LOL

[icy breach]

Not that many ppl would object that…

[ripe obsidian]

I've had decent luck with teams the last couple days. Not all wins, but most teams played "protect the psyker"

I felt pleased about this comment.

[white valley]

Havoc is surprisingly okay with that because it really punishes being separated

Turns out that the team is way way stronger stacked than not

[hearty wolf]

No

Team bad

They steal your damage

They're only good because they take so much damage, you get the green circle easily

If only we could all play inferno 😭

Dogshit class with 1 playstyle ahh game

[upper sun]

man i went on a two day trip

i was really hoping wed get a fucking patch by now

[icy breach]

Yeah who would have thought that in a team-based co-op class-specific game sticking together is better than being seperate

[icy breach]

Hopes & Dreams

[ripe obsidian]

Next time we play I'm gonna do SG+DD Inferno just to make you suffer.

[grim jolt]

guys why is kinetic deflection good?

[ripe obsidian]

But everyone wants to be the solo hero. Well, mostly Arbiters. But the Arbiter today had Nuncio, which was nice

[ripe obsidian]

Many much block and many much peril gain.

It's best when paired with Deflector on a Force Sword and a Stamina curio or Stamina perk on your weapon

[marble crater]

Blocking right after sprinting, revives in the middle of a horde, blocking right after pushing several times

[ripe obsidian]

Use peril to block and stamina for everything else

[icy breach]

Blocks bullets (except sniper ones)

[marble crater]

That's Deflector

[ornate hamlet]

Wait we can block sniper bullets ?

[vernal temple]

when blocking you generate Peril instead of using up Stamina

[zealous wing]

its especially lovely if your peril generation is already low, like in my build

[marble crater]

Ogryn and Arby can with their shields

[grim jolt]

Thanks

[zealous wing]

i can walk towards a reaper across a large room and be fine

makes me feel menacing

[ornate hamlet]

When i was lv 10 or some sh1t,i did have the itch to block sniper bullet with my glowing hand on my sword 🗡️...

I died

[zealous wing]

i did that once, though, i dont die from a sniper shot, and that was well after reaching lvl 30

[ornate hamlet]

[zealous wing]

sniper takes all toughness +1/3 hp on uprising

i am usually more careful when playing chicken with them

[ornate hamlet]

I was already low hp and half toughness soo

[zealous wing]

f

[ornate hamlet]

I tought i can block it

[zealous wing]

i do wish it did work, tbh, perhaps with the tradeoff being it sends your peril to 100

[ornate hamlet]

What if u are 5% peril,will it be 105?

[zealous wing]

no, i mean just to 100

[ornate hamlet]

[zealous wing]

meaning you'd need KD to survive the shot

[ornate hamlet]

They legit need to buff psyker

[zealous wing]

idk i feel more cannon than glass

i die more as a zealot and oggy than psyker

i could see various things need work, certainly, but, its playable, and i dont feel weak

i dont feel overpowered either, though, and both is probably due to my specific build and playstyle

[bright summit]

Psyker doesn't need buffs

[crisp ether]

psyker durability buff, but offensive capability nerf imho

[zealous wing]

our job is to BE a glass cannon

fragile but powerful

[bright summit]

If by that you mean nerf purge and trauma then yes

[ornate hamlet]

Yes he needs buffs,to his hp

[zealous wing]

is 200 hp not enough?

[ornate hamlet]

Nah we need it over 9000

[zealous wing]

pft

imagine

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-gif-14419267

Imagine psyker is so tanky that they make ogrin glass cannon

[zealous wing]

with KD you can tank tbh

and deflector

esp with the right curios

[hearty wolf]

I summon Dog

Good luck

I've actually unlocked Ogryn so

[ornate hamlet]

I am still looking for good curios,i am squishy af

[graceful arch]

My randoms in havocs would still manage to die to a gunner squad.

[hearty wolf]

I press m1

[zealous wing]

i just need my +2 stam to be replaced with +3 and i'll be set

[tulip kettle]

you cant say stuff like this

people will call you bad

youre supposed to all split up and kite bosses around slowly until everyone dies

[ornate hamlet]

All this psyker talk makes me wanna play vampire survivors

[zealous wing]

😭

[radiant frigate]

false prophet

[graceful arch]

Lol fake 3 stam curio.

Goes hard.

[zealous wing]

fr

[ornate hamlet]

Why is it fake? 😞

[tulip kettle]

someone join my havoc

[upper sun]

rating too low

[tulip kettle]

guy just quit on countdown to start

[graceful arch]

Any 3 stamina curios below 410 rating are fake.

[ornate hamlet]

What's ok rating then?

[graceful arch]

[upper sun]

either 410 or 420 and above im not sure

[graceful arch]

Would if I was home.

[upper sun]

🚬 i somehow by the grace of god rolled a 430

[white valley]

They hated my Beloved because he spoke the truth

[graceful arch]

I have 0 fake stamina curious yet. I think anyways if I do I might have sold them allready

[upper sun]

i favored everything thats remotely useful and sell everything else once a week

i wish they would give us the option to auto sell emperor gifts

[graceful arch]

I just wish there was an actual sorting system so if I make curios sets with different stats on them I can still find them easily

I like using different mixed of 5% toughness, ability cd and gunner res/stam Regen on my curios

Sometimes I even like revive speed on stuff like ogryn

[white valley]

We need a curio rework tbh

Supposedly it is coming at some point

Fatshark should delete wound curios

[zealous wing]

they're nice to have 1 or 2 of if youre doing grimoire runs, or get downed a lot, otherwise, they're pretty useless

[graceful arch]

I play Marty zealot

[zealous wing]

i have one still i believe, specifically for lootruns/grimoires

[graceful arch]

I did the challenge where you have to stay below 1 wound for 75% of the mission with 3 wound curios on.

As zealot

[zealous wing]

lol

but, gg

[graceful arch]

Was funny as shit if I proceed until death it would have been over lol

[marble crater]

Yeah, why do it the easier way when you can just do this instead

[zealous wing]

sometimes penances just happen

like the cliffhanger one

[graceful arch]

It's a private game penance but yeah

[zealous wing]

i accidentally shoved almost a whole horde off a cliff in the void area

[graceful arch]

I just overwrote my Marty build and forgot about curios

[zealous wing]

turned out to be a penance for that

[graceful arch]

[graceful arch]

I am clearly very smart

[white valley]

Health is better against corruption than wounds

If you get downed a lot, a stamina curio + health and toughness will do more for you than wounds will

Getting revived is a luxury in this game anyway

I like running 1 stam, 1 toughness and 1 health

[graceful arch]

Meaning for a grim specifically running a wound is better than hp

Demonhost corruption also only corrupts up until just under a wound.

[white valley]

What

Grim gives flat corruption instantly and then corruption over time

It absolutely does not instantly corrupt a wound

[graceful arch]

Let me check I am maybe just being stupid

Finding info for this game is fucking near impossible.

[summer prairie]

you got disabled 0 times that time, no need for spidey sense

[zealous wing]

i was just gonna grab my wound curio and snag grimoires tbh

got penances to do

[plucky flax]

Bruh I was playing like a chicken.

95% of my skill goes to staying alive.

No damage left

Luckily the 2 other guys were really good.

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

Tbh finding players with 'normal' loadout is already hard without mods.

All I get is 'clearance 40"

[icy breach]

Don’t make me eat you now; i’m hungry & at work

[plucky flax]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/576

Putting all my mods back now.

[summer prairie]

never again?

[plucky flax]

Yeah

Once is enough.

It's proven.

Unsanctioned is pro enough to win h40 without mods.

[summer prairie]

next controller+ no mods

[white valley]

Honestly I am shocked every day play havoc by what people do with their loadouts

[plucky flax]

That's just impossible.

I can't aim with controller.

[white valley]

Why do so many players run garbage perks or even the same perks on both weapons, infuriating

[plucky flax]

Even hips firing with this crap crosshair is hard already.

[white valley]

Weakspot damage and crit damage 🤮

[plucky flax]

Also red outline is the same outline colour as the red aura from final toll.

It's so dumb.

[graceful arch]

Only "gameplay altering mod" I really run is numeric ui.

[plucky flax]

That's pro.

I can't play without guaranteed special and weapon swap.

[graceful arch]

Might have to get those. I hate my special input being eaten with a high attack speed knife.

[plucky flax]

They are really good.

Can't do swap cancel combo well without them.

[hearty wolf]

Same

[white valley]

This says nothing without knowing the hp values of the bots and the other player

[summer prairie]

what about autoattacking and such

[wraith sphinx]

I run these

[solar sparrow]

how big of a meme is melee psyker in h40

[plucky flax]

No spidey sense and skitarius.

Very based no cheat.

[plucky flax]

As meme as you want it to be.

[summer prairie]

show remaining dodges seems redundant with numeric ui, I guess you get a bar instead

[zealous wing]

doing another run after with default wounds

midmission rn

[summer prairie]

the new numeric ui also has a cooldown bar for dodges

[white valley]

Incredible damage output, but surviving is rough

Force Greatsword is one of the best melee weapons in the game, with superb horde clear and great elite killing, laspistol can offer insane boss damage as well

[plucky flax]

Karien is back if you want to play again after lunch syllo

[summer prairie]

right, after lunch it's more gaming

[plucky flax]

Bacon and egg sandwich

[summer prairie]

I'm also eating in a bit

[plucky flax]

With some fried onions, mayo, saricha sauce and soy sauce (asian xd)

[summer prairie]

oh right you are off work

[plucky flax]

Ye im at home

Very chill

Weather is nice and cloudy too

What a lovely day

[visual phoenix]

saturn burger

or my favorite tomatonator

[deft stump]

What do you mean ignoring, I just had things happen.

[plucky flax]

Wanna play soon too?

So karien can carry 3 noobs

[deft stump]

I do nawt carry.

@icy breach What are you up to? This is Gaslight mains.

[icy breach]

Exactly where i belong

I use smite btw

[brazen compass]

It's true

[brazen compass]

Silly Karien, not everyone here mains Psyker

[deft stump]

Papa using smite? Oh, I know.

[brazen compass]

I do too

I use all staves (except flame) and all blitzes

[deft stump]

Papa gaslights... explains.

[brazen compass]

Wowowowow talk about elder abuse

[acoustic jacinth]

no flame stave? 😔

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie

Karien wondering when you're ready.

[summer prairie]

coffee in a few minutes and then I'm ready

[white valley]

They should add an ogryn psyker class

That yeets assail shards like rocks

[visual phoenix]

Im currently at work, so possibly in like 3.5 hrs or so

I was taken for trio shenanigans, il text you if anything

[plucky flax]

Damn too many bars.

[zealous wing]

big unfriendly rock

[summer prairie]

Ok ready

[zealous wing]

i'd forgotten how annoying grimoire hunting is in pubs

no one wants them so no one looks, meaning i cant either and gotta keep up

but, i am fairly sure that, its wound based not HP based

[graceful arch]

Too few bars no progress bar for ability cd and no bar for dodge counter.

Smh

[plucky flax]

True I need doge counter bar + doge reset counter bar.

Bars on bars.

[summer prairie]

get rid of the peril bar

[deft stump]

Flat HP and ticking corruption.

[zealous wing]

they always fill up a wound to the same point, though, even if i had 5 wounds or 3

[deft stump]

Yes, 2 will delete 80 flat and 1 HP every 10~ secs.

[jovial juniper]

Unbarred Psyker

[plucky flax]

Nah I don't need doge reset counter.

I am pro enough to count to like 3.

[summer prairie]

but you need two peril indicators

next to each other

[plucky flax]

Bruh

[summer prairie]

are we going

[plucky flax]

She said join vox 69 or die.

[icy breach]

Thats basically orcs

[brazen compass]

yeah because it SUCKS

https://tenor.com/view/rpx-syria-mic-drop-gif-19149907

[white valley]

Iirc ork weirdboyz just PUKE psychic energy

[icy breach]

You can search; as long as you can fend off specials you’ll be good & if ppl complain; cope - they went with the mission

[icy breach]

They believe and it happens; i wish i was an orc so i could believe in myself & believe to have a gf

[white valley]

Gfs aren't real

I dreamed them up

[icy breach]

Wifes are tho

[white valley]

Nah, figment of my dream

Oh dear I got blood all over my dream

[acoustic jacinth]

How so? I feel like carapace is its only issue and even then, just uncanny strike + shriek to overcap or single target melee

Depends on what you're used to as well ig

[brazen compass]

I don't like it because of the lack of visual feedback on it

[acoustic jacinth]

Visual feedback?

[brazen compass]

I see enemies burn to death but I don't feel them

[acoustic jacinth]

yeah i kinda get it but i'd say after a while you start making mental notes of when stuff goes down

[rancid jasper]

that's probably an audio feedback thing

[brazen compass]

I do

It's just not a gratifying staff to use

[loud girder]

errrm akshwally they dont feel pain

[acoustic jacinth]

eh, preference

[brazen compass]

Sure

My preference is to use staves that when I cast magic, everyone goes flying

[rancid jasper]

voidblast is very satisfying, it's largely the sound for me

i like the big boom

[acoustic jacinth]

i only use electro and purg but i acknowledge the others for their strengths too, it's just i don't like them much

[brazen compass]

I even use voidstrike

I just don't like the inferno staff

[rancid jasper]

there's also the lack of player engangement with the inferno staff

you kinda just hold the button and look left and right

[icy breach]

Why use a stick torch that make blu flame when you can make zappy zap zap with your fingernails!?

[brazen compass]

Also this

[rancid jasper]

with the other staves you get to choose how long to charge and when to release and it's more important, the instant you release is the instant you deal damage

the inferno staff you just spray it at any point ever and it's kinda the same

ig inferno staff does have a charge and release function but it's very different

[brazen compass]

That's what I mean by the lack of visual feedback, it's just not an engaging staff for me

[icy breach]

Smite

[brazen compass]

I mean yeah it's good, just not engaging enough for me, and it doesn't do enough to force me to use it over the others if I'm gonna be honest

[rancid jasper]

eh at least smite lets you feel like palpatine lol
and the stun effect is nice feedback
and the force push

apart from that, similar issue

[plucky flax]

Extremely normal behaviour (x1000)

[summer prairie]

rookie mistake

[brazen compass]

https://tenor.com/view/shayne-shaynetopp-thechosen-smosh-gif-24158639

[plucky flax]

This is not even a ledge normally.

[upper sun]

🤔 does coherency work if you're standing next to captured teammates i forgor

[plucky flax]

I am just cursed.

[upper sun]

🤔 i think u jumped

[plucky flax]

Nope.

I never jump during combat my dodge and jump button are separate.

[upper sun]

🤔 im sure u jumped

[plucky flax]

It slammed the ground and threw me up or some shit.

[upper sun]

🤔

could be

[brazen compass]

If you were playing Ogryn you could've just shield planted and won the game

[icy breach]

It did

[upper sun]

is there stuff on the floor?

it could have acted as a lever

[icy breach]

Heretical banana peels yes

Arby slipped

[upper sun]

fatshark insists on making every nut bolt and pebble fully realistic

no im serious the fucking maps are so pointy

they dont need that many polygons

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-porygon-love-gif-14762241930457939739

[brazen compass]

Yes they do, mandated by GW

[upper sun]

the piece of 2x4 on the floor doesnt need a collusion mesh

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/kana-jani-youtube-jani-rappiotubetus-katosta-läpi-man-drops-thru-roof-siansilmä-gif-24474492

[white valley]

Not even the same guy

[loud girder]

attention to detail is peak

[upper sun]

I GOT STUCK ON A WATER VALVE AND DIED

[loud girder]

just like real life buddy!

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[acoustic jacinth]

has a point lol

despite how annoying it is

[upper sun]

theres a water valve in the puzzle area in silo cluster

it fucking only effects ogryn

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/water-heater-service-port-neches-tx-slab-leak-repair-beaumont-tx-gif-25182484

water valves... clad's new nemesis

[acoustic jacinth]

you try to slide near cement, oop, it's cracked, you get stuck

[acoustic jacinth]

ror2 mentioned

[near gale]

Yep lol

[near gale]

Isn't this the ror2 discord?

[acoustic jacinth]

yes

[visual phoenix]

Dada

[near gale]

Well... actually that would be their baby dying since the child is the oldest version of that type of creature in ror >.>

It's supposed to represent a star I think with the parent being the youngest, the grandparent being the middle aged, and the child being the oldest

[topaz void]

is the charged strike upgrade worth it

in yalls opinion

[zealous wing]

depends how often you use heavy hits tbh

i personally do, when in the rare occurence i use smite

[topaz void]

mk8 force greatsword soooooo ALOT

guess ill take a point off somewhere for it then

[rancid jasper]

you also have to ask do you really need the extra damage or are you already killing stuff on the first hit anyways

sometimes it's not worth the point even if you use a lot of heavies

[marble crater]

You can get rid of Mind in Motion, because it's pretty much useless

[rancid jasper]

fair, you can bhop or slide

[marble crater]

Judging from that screenshot I'm willing to bet there are a few more changes that can be made

[topaz void]

why? cozz its not meta?

[marble crater]

Because you have Battle Meditation and Mind in Motion

[pale prairie]

To be succinct yes

[rancid jasper]

whenever i see someone use that word the only thing i can think of is they were thinking about how cool that word is and wanted to use it

it's a pretty cool word

[pale prairie]

A lot of people focus more points on the middle and bottom points of the tree (abilities, auras, and keystones etc). Other than the top talents for toughness gen or crit focused ones the blitzes and their associated talents are usually treated as pathing more than anything. The exception being left side of smite with the cooldown on elite kill (and wildfire but this talent is argued about)

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-dc-comics-gif-24835425

[deft stump]

@plucky flax @summer prairie Thanks for the weekly. Gonna go cook something now, heh.

[plucky flax]

Much more comfy playing with mods. I can 'see' specials.

[deft stump]

EO hax is already too much. Getting spooped.

Perfect, pork cubes defrosted. Now to make some weird soup where is just pork, corn and mussels.

[jovial juniper]

Not really

[marble crater]

You have earned it after carrying Agent again

[deft stump]

Naw, funni oggy 2 hit bosses.

[marble crater]

You two hit bosses with your ogryn? Impressive

I guess you usually one shot them, and that's why you don't consider this a carry

[deft stump]

No. We had a random oggy.

[marble crater]

You even managed to carry a random?

[deft stump]

We got carried.

0 boss damage otherwise lul.

[marble crater]

Smh

[hearty wolf]

That's because Karien counts as a boss

So director can't spawn anymore

[plucky flax]

Oh I did no mods on purple and red (arguably hardest modifiers) so I must be pro.

[topaz void]

so my build idea was just stacking a bazillion damage buffs for smite and kill things with that

annnndddd it sucks

back to shard gunsyker i guess

[icy breach]

There is no limit

[hearty wolf]

With Karien there is

Karien intimidation passive

[near gale]

Sure there is... the game will surely crash at some point (aside from when Karien is there)

How do I know this? Over 3k hours of ror2 experience >.>

[pale prairie]

Was it a pickaxe build?

[deft stump]

Yes, also book and nuncio.

[pale prairie]

Wow ogryn’s learned to read and got an MP3 player?

[deft stump]

Well, he got read to... but kinda.

[pale prairie]

STORY TIME

[radiant frigate]

bonk

[pale prairie]

Bonk BONK

[jovial juniper]

Book and music player huh

Lo-fi art ogryn

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[pale prairie]

I’d listen to that

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHjjAGm1EKM

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-rock-huh-what-confused-wtf-gif-18025317

[plucky flax]

Darktide sound design is so top tier mane

[deft stump]

Some ppl like sounds too much.

[pale prairie]

Honestly lately it’s just been hours of Rumbler ASMR

[pale prairie]

The sound of elite death is mmmmmmmmmmm

[deft stump]

Dying trappers.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-role-crit-role-cr-arsequeef-kink-shame-gif-15394516

[pale prairie]

Ohhhh yeah that’s good stuff

[pale prairie]

Honestly I am surprised Agent talked about sound design since he is deaf and needs spider sense mod

[hearty wolf]

The squad rolling up to McDonalds for the third time that day

[deft stump]

True.

[plucky flax]

Tru

And blind.

[pale prairie]

So many good blind people on this game

[deft stump]

That's cos you decided lights out.

[pale prairie]

It’s ridiculous

[plucky flax]

Oh krieger did you see my latest death?

[pale prairie]

Nah share with me please

[marble crater]

Karien couldn't save you?

[pale prairie]

I am here for that sweet sweet unsanctioned content

[plucky flax]

Normal behaviour really
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1406982918471028830/Desktop_2025.08.18_-_13.47.02.06.mp4?ex=68a47274&is=68a320f4&hm=2f459e19a6575eb58bc056d1bcf7edd8ccdc1f4c00775ddadff5a2518e9baab0&

I didn't even know that was a ledge.

[marble crater]

@deft stump why did you let that happen?

[deft stump]

Not much you can do when it's ledge death.

[plucky flax]

I think it's only a ledge for me.

[pale prairie]

Also for Ainz hysterical laughter at very badly optimized builds with the bullheaded arguments accompanying them

[deft stump]

Instant ledge death.

[plucky flax]

Normal people would never get somehow knocked over.

[marble crater]

How disappointing

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1398707424759910410/Desktop_2025.07.26_-_17.43.11.07.mp4?ex=68a3584c&is=68a206cc&hm=2352c64ffd13003f5ee2c79e2598c2cb76a7f2d060949cb8aef80a7f96fafff3&

[deft stump]

I thought it was a sniper. Turns out...

[pale prairie]

What the fuck it hit you in the air

[plucky flax]

I didn't press jump.

[pale prairie]

Lmao it knocked you up and spiked you like it’s smash bros

[plucky flax]

I dunno how I got thrown into the air to get thrown over the ledge.

Bruh was out to get me

[summer prairie]

if you were pro you would crouch there

[pale prairie]

I was watching and I still don’t get it

[summer prairie]

then it wouldn't ledge

[plucky flax]

I think there was a bench near where I was.

So some sort of geometry made me slid up.

[pale prairie]

Spam mantle

[pale prairie]

That makes sense

[plucky flax]

Or a bag of garbage or something.

To create a small ramp.

[pale prairie]

It was dark hard to see

[plucky flax]

To boost me in the air.

It's just cursed.

1 more ledge death and I uninstall game.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1403842401826639994/Desktop_2025.08.09_-_21.47.34.12.mp4?ex=68a43a5e&is=68a2e8de&hm=025c832649e5b76ac0af5a9024ad5d4a51ccdc80d88691eeab6bfa52cd321f6e&

[summer prairie]

the previous one was unavoidable

[pale prairie]

God some dev was like “THE ONLY CLIPPING THAT WILL HAPPEN IS COSMETICS. EVERYTHING WILL HAVE GEOMETRY”

[zealous wing]

challenge=impossible

[wraith sphinx]

forgot to reply but yeah, I prefer the bar over just the numbers 🙂

[pale prairie]

One of your mods is like halving your gravity

[deft stump]

I think I forgot to get off vox before going to the kitchen.

[plucky flax]

Youtube link but it's super short
https://youtu.be/pOknrmGUaGE

[summer prairie]

worth it for the ammo

[plucky flax]

tru

[pale prairie]

I almost wonder if the shotgun blast from the captain launched you up a ramp into the air right as the chaos thing does its knock up

[plucky flax]

I did a kickflip

[pale prairie]

Then it also hits you with shotgun again right after chaos knock up

[wraith sphinx]

also numeric ui showing everyone's remaining ammo was a genuine game changer for me, it makes a huge difference being able to tell who needs ammo the most and who is just wasting pickups

[pale prairie]

Lmao greed strikes again. You get so much Zamboni speed out slides hahaha

[wraith sphinx]

ability cd timers are also really nice to have but usually not really critical. Sometimes I check it to see if a shield psyker is on c/d and pop them with a conc stim if I have one and that's about it

[pale prairie]

It’s great! Except it’s a source of frustration now when I ping ammo for them and they don’t take it despite being empty.

“Bruh I run grenadier gauntlet or staff psyker specifically so I don’t take ammo”

[wraith sphinx]

that's a them problem lol

[pale prairie]

Yeah it still aggravates me hahaha

[wraith sphinx]

some people just enjoy being headless chickens like that

like people who join CIVI maelstrom and spam I need ammo emotes

[pale prairie]

I really wonder if I am out of touch with how chaotic this game feels to new players

Just trying to survive and can’t even look around for pings and ammo

[wraith sphinx]

oh well, the tunnel vision only goes away by playing the game

[pale prairie]

True

"The only way to learn is by playing. The only way to win is by learning. And the only way to begin is by beginning."

[wraith sphinx]

exactly

[near gale]

but I don't want to begin, that sounds like too much work

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/procrastination-procrastinate-homework-doing-bored-gif-18502646

[pale prairie]

I promise you there are many shinies though

[radiant frigate]

a wise man once said:
"The only way to do a thing is to do it"

[plucky flax]

Is not greed ogryn see AM-O ogryn take.

Dakadaka

[thorn cedar]

Beginning is the first step to failure.

[pale prairie]

Delayed gratification. No AM-O until after the bad Ogryn friend is dead

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-smh-seriously-wink-tremors3-gif-22329496

[jovial juniper]

Lmfao

[radiant frigate]

in order to become good at something, you must first be okay at it, which in turn requires you to suck at it beforehand

[plucky flax]

It's not laughing matter it's serious.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-rpg-magpie-games-avatar-legends-the-roleplaying-game-avatarlegends-rpg-gif-22585352

[marble crater]

Zuko did nothing wrong

[pale prairie]

Dakadaka is always serious

[pale prairie]

For sure, but he definitely sucked at stuff before getting better

[marble crater]

Sucked at being good

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-funny-weeb-waifu-anime-roast-your-waifu-isnt-real-gif-15764528

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-not-crying-chris-pratt-gif-14210708

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-crying-sad-lonely-tears-gif-15518530

[pale prairie]

And that makes him compelling

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-yeah-i-know-get-up-gif-20904784

[severe gorge]

what do you guys like to pair with the force greatsword? I've been trying electro staff but I'm not vibing with it at the moment

[verbal thistle]

Shredder auto pistol

For the mobility and ragers

[severe gorge]

I don't wanna use the revolver cause that's what I use on zealot so I don't wanna just make my zealot lite lol

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-show-off-gif-6471047879258699468

[marble crater]

Reconlas

[jovial juniper]

Zarona....... Shotgun

[pale prairie]

Ooooo intriguing

[severe gorge]

🤔 hmmmmm

[pale prairie]

Which recon las gun though there’s like 3

[marble crater]

Fast one I think?

I don't know, someone told me which to use and I never looked at it since

[pale prairie]

How often you needing ammo pickups?

[marble crater]

Whenever I am low

Not that often that I need them

[wind wind]

Double barrel shotgun with scriers gaze is the funniest gun on psyker, cant change my mind

[hearty wolf]

That's one of the things the live action did really well

They expanded his backstory in a meaningful way

[marble crater]

Mk 12

[white valley]

Laspistol

Laspistol is insane on gunker due to scaling absurdly well with finesse

[plucky flax]

Recon lasgun

Brrrrrr

[hearty wolf]

You don't

The greatsword is also ranged

You can't switch weapon with a two handed weapon

How would that make sense

You don't have a third hand

[marble crater]

Maybe you don't

[deft stump]

You psyker, you don't really need hands with telekinesis.

[plucky flax]

I have 3 hands irl tbf

[pale prairie]

Imagine not having 4 hands

[plucky flax]

I think I am still in the growing stage is why.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-bebe-on-ta-bebe-chucky-gif-18770856

[dull scroll]

vraks if you don't care about sniping things at long range, it destroys everything at close mid range instantly 😌

[pale prairie]

Everything except armor yeah?

[dull scroll]

except CARAPACE armor, yes

you can delete maulers as well so long as you spam at the flak body instead of their carapace helm

or just use the long range of FGS to save ammo

[marble crater]

Or just let the team handle them

[pale prairie]

Wait there’s a team?

There’s these civilians I have to escort every mission, one of them even has a dog. But I thought they were bots

[marble crater]

Sometimes they are bots, it's in the name. But yeah sometimes the name part is bugged and it's not obvious they are bots

[ripe obsidian]

The meat shields.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[radiant frigate]

real

[zealous wing]

why must the armoury be so cruel to me

several lvl 400 "3 stamina" and not a single 410

sobbing

[marble crater]

Because your name is Hex-is and not Lex-is

[zealous wing]

random, i quickplayed into a match with an arby named vexis earlier

[pale prairie]

Brunt doesn’t like you

[zealous wing]

it was weird

[pale prairie]

Simple as

[zealous wing]

::(

but

i give monies

many monies

[pale prairie]

Finally got my 21% health

I bought him rashuns

[marble crater]

He wants rashuns, not monies

[zealous wing]

i dont have rations :(

[pale prairie]

Then you don’t get stamina

[zealous wing]

[marble crater]

The nerve of some people

[zealous wing]

no body gives me rations to begin with :(

cant share what i dont has

[jade snow]

Quick question guys. Is Kinetic Flayer affected by Empowered Psyonics?

[marble crater]

Yes

[zealous wing]

sidenote, isnt brunt missing?

[pale prairie]

Starved to death cause stingy people won’t give rashuns

https://tenor.com/view/really-justin-timberlake-close-up-judging-you-intense-judgment-gif-11823466

[zealous wing]

:(

[vague musk]

didnt know psykers could float stuff

[zealous wing]

lmao

telekinetic

[severe gorge]

is there a difference?

[zealous wing]

level 400 lies, and its ACTUALLY +2

[severe gorge]

........

[zealous wing]

sefoni also lies

(psykanium)

[severe gorge]

lovely

[zealous wing]

ik

[cold geode]

Brunt is stealh ogryn

[plucky flax]

Bro cussed out the arbies for no reason then ragequitted after dying.

He was also rushing just like all of us. Xd

[zealous wing]

username checks out

[plucky flax]

He was h40 clearance true survivor title.

Very toxic.

[cold geode]

a real gem of a human being

[pale prairie]

I mean his name is Trash

[zealous wing]

was this ON havoc or somethin else?

[plucky flax]

Nah just maelstrom.

[zealous wing]

lmao

[pale prairie]

Did you add more mods?! Now your warp charges on the screen lmao

[zealous wing]

username checks out x2

[plucky flax]

No it was always there.

[marble crater]

Had to compensate for the time without mods maybe

[pale prairie]

Really I think it’s all about flaunting the divide between console and PC

[plucky flax]

This UI is extremely well made.

Please no flame.

[marble crater]

Maybe, he also always calls me a noob and says I am bad because I play on console

[plucky flax]

There's a dt game somewhere here
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1369606768476422185/image.png?ex=68a443b3&is=68a2f233&hm=f7e3814f8f6831ce3a0d564043fac369280787675c741c5159da758a89a391d4&

[pale prairie]

You’re one of those people that just throws desktop icons all over the place huh?

[plucky flax]

Sry guys I'm playing darktide 3 whilst you're stuck playing darktide 1.

[pale prairie]

I am sorry sibling. That’s fucked up. Sure you’re a little slow to turn but you aren’t a noob….unless you don’t clutch and rescue me

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1305818952697384970/image.png?ex=68a43cab&is=68a2eb2b&hm=50b53acd26b1d383d18e9021151381b28a6605e7e195279cde4a562f841aa1c5&

[pale prairie]

When modders take the game into their own hands

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1196038880172965928/image.png?ex=68a45282&is=68a30102&hm=8ac5653050976d28892c7254782cf18571360ce2da586ff685091380c4bd5965&

[marble crater]

You can't clutch with controller, there is no free clutch button

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1181714148585906236/image.png?ex=68a448d0&is=68a2f750&hm=b97d03702edbc418c0b01c7feb094f41f2b8a40d92d2a581611b31090ace441e&

[pale prairie]

My favorite part is that these people for real don’t play the game

[marble crater]

Karma for flaming me all the time

[plucky flax]

Maybe if they did they'd know these mods are legal.

[zealous wing]

"psyker % "

peril?

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

[zealous wing]

the thing that... IS colour specific?

[plucky flax]

I have custom colours for mine.

Maybe he meant that.

[pale prairie]

Yeah they are legal! Just a fucking eyesore. You have to have a big monitor for all these numbers constantly scrolling

[plucky flax]

It goes from blue to red to WHITE at critical level (100%)

[zealous wing]

maybe but if you do then its more accessibility than cheat (colourblindness as an example)

[pale prairie]

Tell him your color blind please don’t flame

[plucky flax]

Is tru

[zealous wing]

also, he has issue with a real time dash counter? bruh

[pale prairie]

When this patch???

[plucky flax]

I'm blind, deaf, colourblind, mute and also....

[pale prairie]

The game is dumb without a UI mod honestly

[zealous wing]

i know i'm not getting into modding myself but thats nitpicky even for my tastes

[ripe obsidian]

I'd say that healthbars are pretty cheaty, as well as the net and cleave things. But I use the debuff viewer to see my soulblaze count, as well as the AoE indicators for explosives, so I am a hypocrite.

[zealous wing]

dont like it, dont use it, simple as

[pale prairie]

He just broke both his arms. He will no longer be typing responses

[upper sun]

tuesday in 43 years

[pale prairie]

That’s funny cause I don’t use aoe or soulblaze mod but I do use the health bars hahaha

[marble crater]

I will play Helldivers until then, already bought it

[zealous wing]

i was also gonna say hp bar is a bit much but, when youre in the higher calibers, especially maelstroms... forgiven

[ripe obsidian]

I got tired of accidentally walking into fire barrel AoE when I wasn't in the actual flame.

[pale prairie]

It’s still not clear to me if it’s the date of announcement about the eventual patch announcement

[ripe obsidian]

The added benefit is it helps with silent bursters

[pale prairie]

He’ll fucking yeah brother

[pale prairie]

I mean it’s part of the fun for em

[marble crater]

Pre-ordered it, please no flame

[ripe obsidian]

Not when they bypass toughness. >:(

[plucky flax]

It's clean guys pls no flame.

[pale prairie]

Had one yesterday behind a dog. So dumb. Like did the dog sound make him super silent???

[marble crater]

You wrote that with your alt account

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/hoarder-reporter-1982calendar-nbcsnl-snl-gif-12643450

[pale prairie]

But you’re so tough

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-wtf-matrix-the-matrix-blink182-gif-11308275628706487257

No it’s like

[zealous wing]

wondering if its like a number of sounds playing at once, and either newer stuff doesnt start, or newer spawned stuff makes older spawned stuff silent

either way, a thing meant to save eardrums is costing lives instead

[ripe obsidian]

my theory, without evidence, is that the audio system will only play up to like 8 sound cues at a time. Certain things have higher priority. I think Daemonhosts are top, but not sure after that. So if the burster doesn't hit the top 8 for some reason...

There are also a few spots in maps where audio just stops working for the whole team. I forget which offhand.

[zealous wing]

gunners also are silent sometimes, its happened a few times in that stairwell, that opens into the big room, on the metal fab ... strike? mission, where you fight a monster at the very end, and happened for both my spouse and i at the same time

[plucky flax]

I haven't played hd2 in forever but if you get it I can play some games.

Then it reminds me how much easier dt is to aim and stuff.

[pale prairie]

This makes the most sense but it really sucks for avoiding disablers and bursters

[pale prairie]

Maybe because of MODS?!?

Nah can’t be true

[upper sun]

clean is zoomer slang for good

[marble crater]

I will force you to play with me at some point, first I want to play alone and not get carried to get the full experience

[marble crater]

Zoomers were a mistake

[pale prairie]

Trust me bruh carrying is harder in there

[ripe obsidian]

I usually get silent crushers, followed by bursters.

The AoE mod is cheaty, but it helps a lot with frustration.

[plucky flax]

No it's just clean.

[zealous wing]

i agree, even though i am one

[plucky flax]

I said pls no flame.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-homelander-gif-16156538903600882075

[zealous wing]

send us back, full refund

[ripe obsidian]

I'm gonna pull a Karien and flame you

[plucky flax]

Yeah 20 lives limit.

[ripe obsidian]

Your UI is bad. >:(

[plucky flax]

At least it was last year.

Dunno if they upped it or not.

[marble crater]

20 lives limit? I always thought it was "die and done" kinda deal

[ripe obsidian]

And the cycle continues. When I was younger, I was like, "Why do older generations hate us for existing?!" Now I'm like...

https://tenor.com/view/wolfhowling-yes-gif-20150350

[plucky flax]

This is just pro mmo ui tbh.

[tired estuary]

gotta know whats goin on

[plucky flax]

Smol clutch in hd2 in hardest difficulty at the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e33cynoi0cY

They added diff 10 later on.

[marble crater]

I can still see parts of the game, there is more room for some mods

[ripe obsidian]

Is Helldivers 2 easier than Darktide? I have never played, but the open environments look a lot easier to navigate, and the range of weapons means less dying in melee.

[pale prairie]

Respawn counter. Each diver brings 5 lives into the pool. There are special abilities that gives more lives but they aren’t worth it.

Since there’s a respawn you die much easier and much faster. No special tech to save you

[marble crater]

I will just not die then

[plucky flax]

I think so ye

A lot of weapons were good last summer with a massive buff update.

[pale prairie]

Friendly fire bruh

[ripe obsidian]

I wish Deep Rock Galactic had melee

[pale prairie]

It’s real in HD2 unlike Darktide

[pale prairie]

They do

[ripe obsidian]

I meant

Good melee

[marble crater]

Thanks for the heads up, I will make sure to make use of it

[ripe obsidian]

Not just pickaxe or driller drills

[dull scroll]

lot easier/less complex in terms of combat mechanics, but lot more depth in tactics

[pale prairie]

Just get that super awesome passive with a cooldown /s

[dull scroll]

melee in that game is a last resort/meme

[ripe obsidian]

Elaborate on the tactics part?

Not a challenge, just curious

I didn't buy HD2 because of the weird, invasive anticheat

[dull scroll]

you have mechs, stationary guns, airstrikes..etc. positioning/movement is lot more vital

[plucky flax]

I used to like doing 2-2 split to clear the map.

[pale prairie]

Nah VECT is right it’s the mechanics of dive point and shoot and loadouts are simple. Since there’s no talent tree or huge gear customization (some of that now but not on the level of Darktide)

The difficult part is what tools to bring to a dive you get 4 call ins which cover ordnance to equipment drops and you have to plan your approach to objectives like using choke points in Darktide

[dull scroll]

in that game if you get surrounded you are done, here if you are good you can cut your way out

[pale prairie]

Positioning/terrain in HD2 = Melee skill in Darktide

Without them you die

[marble crater]

I also postion well in darktide, because I am bad at melee, looks like I will be fine

[pale prairie]

But you can bullshit being surrounded with a good loadout and the stim boost passive

[ripe obsidian]

Positioning is less of an issue for me than aiming. I have very shaky hands and startle too easily, so I can't aim for shit. Headshots are what happens when I am for center mass and my hand twitches up

[pale prairie]

They give you a minimap. Just use it.

It will feel familiar planning out loadouts to deal with a variety of chaff to specialists/armor

[marble crater]

Does it show the best spots for team kills?

[pale prairie]

Yeah they have both FPS and Thirdperson views when firing. The thirdperson is more forgiving in my opinion but there’s a lot of machine guns and explosive weapons so something should resonate

[pale prairie]

Yeah it shows you where your team is 😄

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

There’s a lot of huge space ordnance like artillery callins, explosive strafe runs from jet, 500 kg MOAB and the most dangerous Napalm artillery than lights a huge space on fire. Not a lot of ways to warn buddies without mic hehehe

[ripe obsidian]

In DRG I play Driller with sludge pump. No need to aim

[verbal thistle]

You always have the buff

[pale prairie]

You would love Gloom predator strain on diff 10

[verbal thistle]

The buff bar just has trouble displaying every buff

[verbal thistle]

*after gaze ends

[pale prairie]

I play engi with smart rifle

Definitely no need to aim

[radiant frigate]

i do somewhat enjoy the buildcraft there

but i also feel like by the time i find The Loadout™ not much about it will change

[marble crater]

Like Darktide

[radiant frigate]

yeah pretty much

once the Bigsword Knives Reconlas™ equivalent is found, there is no equal

the amount of weapons that do drastically different things is very low

[ripe obsidian]

That doesn't sound right. What about agonizing over 1% differences between two different talents?

[gray juniper]

He wouldn’t even like it

[radiant frigate]

you can instead agonize about what armor passives are the best (it's extra padding just use the standard issue armor it's goated)

[marble crater]

Can I have stats of one armor and drip from another armor?

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfbzrrcQZjs

[pale prairie]

The key is the real weapons are your orbitals. Orbitals get more green circles than weapons do

[pale prairie]

Nah extra padding is like taking crystalline will

Take ammo and reload armor

Be great

Be….a Helldiver

Dun dun dun nun naaaaaaaaa dun dunnaaaaaaaaa

[pale prairie]

It’s more like agonizing over if a customized gun is better than one of the guns with no customization. Also testing thoroughly all the guns from new weapon packs (crazy idea right?) and whenever they do big sweeping bug fixes/meta shifts to see if it has affected old weapons

[pale prairie]

There is no transmog this dev team is crazy about realism even down to bullet physics and casing shells staying in the world

[radiant frigate]

counterpoint: extra padding is actually more akin to movespeed node

[pale prairie]

Counterpoint: (to quote you) DONT GET HIT

Light armor siege ready my beloved

[radiant frigate]

true but also sometimes you do

[pale prairie]

I would argue the extra padding gives you one extra swipe of something MAAAAAYBE

[radiant frigate]

not a big fan of siege-ready personally

[pale prairie]

Your argument would be stronger with democracy protects

Surrounded? Hellbomb centered on self and pray

[radiant frigate]

at the end of the day most armor passives are mostly inconsequential

[pale prairie]

Again depends. The fire resistance armor combined with the laser gun that hurts you is fucking goated.

Gas armor on all gas builds is pivotal

[radiant frigate]

unreliable though i suppose bleed immunity is relevant now

[pale prairie]

Yeah but when the comparison is that maybe I’ll survive one more swipe by a bug from extra padding….its close

On bots it might provide two extra shots of life

[radiant frigate]

one swipe can make a difference

or it can not

reload speed can make a difference, or it can not

different things belong on different builds

[marble crater]

Sad, do capes have stats or can I use the coolest of those without problems?

[pale prairie]

If I am in a situation where I am getting meleed, it’s not one where one extra is gonna extend my life beyond .0001 seconds. Again that’s at level 10 so maybe at lowers it might help

[radiant frigate]

anyway i just run peak physique 💪🏻

[pale prairie]

Hell fucking yeah

[radiant frigate]

capes and helmets have no stats

[pale prairie]

Absolutely use the coolest

Armor is torso, legs, arms. All one piece with a passive

[marble crater]

[radiant frigate]

capes and helmets are purely there so you can match them to your armor drip

[pale prairie]

It’s so you can flex with capes from old special events like the Creek

https://tenor.com/view/war-gif-13170560

[marble crater]

I will become the coolest looking Xbox Diver, I will just be an ODST

[radiant frigate]

fallen hero's vengeance 🫡

[pale prairie]

SIRI PLAY UNFORTUNATE SON

god I loved that bugged out mess

[pale prairie]

Yeah I am ecstatic for some halo odst drip

[radiant frigate]

my helmet of choice is vaguely ODST-esque anyway

[pale prairie]

I like the disturbing zealot mask

[radiant frigate]

(i don't really like the others)

[pale prairie]

Looks nice when covered in blood

[pale prairie]

The drip variety definitely falls short of the crazy stuff in Darktide

[radiant frigate]

i also do not have servants of freedom

i do have a few others though