psyker-class

[hearty wolf]

We won

[strong gulch]

yes

I also witness Zeek face plant and die from a high fall.

I belly laughed

[hearty wolf]

Apparently he jumped off intentionally @strong gulch

Cos he survived the fall on Oubliette

from 2nd to 1st floor

[strong gulch]

Probably just shy of the needed HP.

I started to climb down but stated getting hit so I jumped.

[hearty wolf]

Idek where I was by that point

[strong gulch]

You were ressing me because I lost a 1 v 1 to a red rager in the same place you did.

lol

[hearty wolf]

O ye

I literally looped the entire section and somehow had enough time to get you

Imagine if the res hp was less than 999

[ripe obsidian]

@visual phoenix the scoreboard

[hearty wolf]

Wait what was that

Mael?

[ripe obsidian]

H40

[wispy bay]

H40

[ripe obsidian]

We did not succeed

[hearty wolf]

Ah

I was thinking the bosses were so high but the damage seem low

Was speedrun it seem

[plucky flax]

Why did you ping poor beef

[ripe obsidian]

Because he was in there

[plucky flax]

Oh he can play another class?

[proper osprey]

Missing key toughness nodes but it’ll work

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4a08a3-60ed-4cb2-9a64-f979b7b9f3d1/terrible-arby-build id run this

Crazy how all of my builds use tac axe now

Hopefully they give the next new character one

And I’ll use it on them

[nocturne dust]

tac axe
lone wolf
true grit
A whole 3 unforgiveable sins in one build

[proper osprey]

I like tac axe because i don’t need cleave

And I get mobility

[nocturne dust]

Apparently you don't need fingers either

[proper osprey]

Guh

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-better-now-professor-membrane-enter-the-florpus-invader-zim-zim-gif-16452825

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-star-wars-meme-meme-commander-cody-stfu-gif-5309816589250938071

[proper osprey]

My fingers could kill a slaanesi deamon

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-what-do-you-mean-by-that-huang4evr-gif-23513899

[proper osprey]

No I will not elaborate

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-smile-pain-looking-gif-17739676

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-a-minute-wait-what-confused-gif-15074314

[plucky flax]

If you need some events map done I can help today

Super fast and easy

[ornate hamlet]

Can you help carrien then

[strong gulch]

The right energy tbh

[hard widget]

Is doing the malice mortis trial under 25 min penance hard

I haven't tried it, but I intend to do it, dunno if I need peeps for it though

[strong gulch]

no clue

I haven't done trails since they were revamped.

[deft stump]

Just needs 3 other chasing it so they don't waste time.

[strong gulch]

Before that it was pretty hard because the timing between events and the dialog was unnecessarily long.

[ripe obsidian]

@verbal thistle https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1lpcoef/this_must_be_my_favourite_voice_line_so_far/

This is the dialogue you mentioned.

[deft stump]

Cos they already made it easier with the lower waits between waves.

[ripe obsidian]

Fast because you move at mach speed

[strong gulch]

oggy voice line

om nom

also the laugh

[deft stump]

Dialogue didn't change. Some chaps are better for it still, they made it so you don't have like 10-20 secs idle after.

[strong gulch]

I remember something about the dialog.

Likely a misplaced memory that is related.

[pale prairie]

This is gold

[deft stump]

Basically the timer is more or less as long as the dialogue if you don't have latency issues.

[pale prairie]

Interesting I have never done the trials but they seem fun with the bonkers buffs. Like an easier chaos wastes

[deft stump]

Still shaves down idle time so you have more time before failure.

[verbal thistle]

Lmao

That's amazing

[plucky flax]

Karien? She doesn't need help.

[deft stump]

I already had the event finished by day 2.

[plucky flax]

Go faster
Faster wipe
Waste less time retrying map

[ornate hamlet]

Stronk carrying then

[plucky flax]

Karien is normally 10 rooms ahead of me though in havoc.

[deft stump]

Wot?

[plucky flax]

She shouts something like "Bruh you're too slow go faster noob"

[plucky flax]

Is tru karien dont stare

[hardy jewel]

Smyker is meta right?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

||if you're being serious, no it's not 💀||

[hardy jewel]

Buddy what server is your tag

Its gotta be private for a reason bro 💔

[plucky flax]

It's lewd.

LazyIcarus's Hub. It's a modding server.

[visual phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-sea-bunny-bunny-review-sea-bnuuy-bnuuy-gif-17201360180473003493

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-boyle-299-birch-drive-rostock-racing-deer-club-oddkast-chocolate-gif-7604806897369123722

[visual phoenix]

IS THIS REAL???

[plucky flax]

New hybrid species discovered in catachan jungle. They call it the

[rancid jasper]

do finesse damage boosts apply to warpshock slash on fgs? only on the melee part or the projectile too?

[plucky flax]

Both cos the warp slice portion is range damage

[marble crater]

But it can't hit weakspots or crit right? So finesse damage wouldn't really do anything for the projectile?

[summer prairie]

It even has a crit blessing...

[marble crater]

and does that apply to the projectile or just the melee hit?

[summer prairie]

The projectile, the melee part barely does damage

[marble crater]

but it doesn't apply soulblaze with blazing spirit?

[summer prairie]

No because it's ranged damage

[marble crater]

okay, and voidblast is what damage then, why does that work

[summer prairie]

Voidblast is explosion and it's not the same blessing

Voidblast lmb is ranged I guess

[marble crater]

This fucking game...

So we really have a weapon with a guaranteed crit warp slice blessing that can't activate another crit dependant blessing, but then we have a weapon with a blessing of the same name which can be activated, I could sweat I have triggered soulblaze with lmb spam before, I will test it now

[summer prairie]

pretty sure lmb triggers it, but the proc condition of that blessing is different

[marble crater]

Which we only know because of mods and/or digging through the code, love it

[summer prairie]

the melee part of the warp slice can trigger blazing spirit but it doesn't get a guaranteed crit from the blessing

[marble crater]

The hell?

How does that make sense?

[plucky flax]

Its fartshart magic

[hearty wolf]

Magic

[rancid jasper]

im critting with it pretty consistently so i will get benefits probably, but wtf.. it's ranged damage? AND YET IT DOESN'T USE UP TRUE SHOT???

[plucky flax]

Yeah

[rancid jasper]

so it is a ranged damage attack but it isn't a ranged attack

does it recieve bonuses to warp damage? surely, i mean it's literally called WARPSHOCK SLASH and it's a giant wave of warp energy harvested from the souls of your enemies

[plucky flax]

Lvl 100 arby weapon vs lvl 1 arby weapon

[gray juniper]

What is going on here?

[ornate hamlet]

You do strong carry then

[ornate hamlet]

Ayo wtf 😒

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle you unemployed fuck

Why not awake 😭

It's TIME to play

[magic prawn]

What’s the best Havoc 40 great sword build? Asking for a friend 👉👈

[plucky flax]

It's hax.

[plucky flax]

Some says it's bubble knight.

[ornate hamlet]

No idea what you mean

[visual phoenix]

hes about to trow TVs at ppl

[ornate hamlet]

Or flip tables

[visual phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-hax-hax-hacks-hacker-hackers-gif-1970435453844108305

[hard widget]

is electro staff better with smite or bb

[plucky flax]

Bb for kf meme and never touch blitz

[hard widget]

Is kf the shriek

So, bb , shriek and warp siphon

[marble crater]

Kinetic flayer is a BB add on

[hard widget]

Oh yeah

Also this staff is pretty good

I'm using it with the horde clear gs

[plucky flax]

Havoc dead Saturday afternoon

Noice

Damn finesse not 80. It brings warp resistance up to 29

[gray juniper]

Would low wr fill the warp bars faster?

[plucky flax]

Yeah that's the aim.

More peril per special.

[gray juniper]

Dang ok ok

[hard widget]

Electro staff pretty insane for deleting elites

Maybe I should try it without empyric resolve

Do you build electro staff with warp nexus and warp flurry

[marble crater]

Yes and with empyric resolve

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna play?

[marble crater]

Chores and errands

[plucky flax]

Haven't tried mortis after update.

I heard it's harder now.

[marble crater]

It's more interesting, still not hardest there is

[merry meteor]

Does GS discharge attack count as "ranged attack" for the purpose of this talent?

[plucky flax]

Mortis still long and boring.

[plucky flax]

No

No guartenteed crit

[sand field]

just to be sure, this is the meta inferno BB build right?

Had an argument about guides and builds with a friend.

[marble crater]

Most builds will have some variation of a talent or two, but this is pretty much one of the go to versions

[ornate hamlet]

Is that not good?

[ornate hamlet]

Me in 10 mins

[hearty wolf]

I'd highly recommend finding a way to slot quietude if this is for havoc

[sand field]

I'm mainly playing auric since I don't have auric maelstrom survivor or any of the auric titles.

[hearty wolf]

Ah, looks solid then

[sand field]

Thanks for the advice though. I see why you'd recommend it but I have a hard time dropping something.

Maybe perfect timing

[hearty wolf]

Usually for auric you'd take shriek instead of shield

Nah PT needs to stay

[sand field]

I like providing a shield for the team, especially when I can permabubble with lots of gunners & snipers around.

You prefer the personal stagger ability of venting shriek?

[hearty wolf]

I prefer everything on the screen being dead

Which creeping flames is going to help with

[sand field]

Does the stagger of vent work on ogryns?

[hearty wolf]

That's a good question. I'm pretty sure it's a light stagger for them

Anyone else jump in to confirm

[marble crater]

Sometimes

[sand field]

Interesting if it does, since currently in auric I mainly run into problems when crusher stacks run into me and the arbites/ogryn players aren't frontlining.

I can dodge some but I can't dodge 6 🙁

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-dirt-league-vldl-souls-logic-dark-souls-git-gud-gif-19856700

[hearty wolf]

Sometimes if you're in the back line, you need to go to the shadow lands instead

[sand field]

I've modified my inferno build to try vent

[marble crater]

In that case you might also switch from empyric resolve to the the rending talent, at the bottom before warp charges

[hearty wolf]

Does POTS even

O

Yeah just for the peril gen

Or you need to begin stroking

[sand field]

(I know I need to get the mod for talent trees)

[merry meteor]

shiit, assail-dome-disrupt destiny psyker with GS is a menace. my new playtoy lol

[tulip kettle]

unemployed?!?!?!?

servicing your mother is a full time job.

[radiant frigate]

bubble knight claims another

[tulip kettle]

this is exactly what i run. And for havoc you can just swap shriek to bubble and keep the rest of the tree

[sand field]

do you run empyric resolve in havoc with the bubble?

[gray juniper]

That’s why you need vent instead of bubble. Make them handle the problems they refuse to face 😈

[hearty wolf]

She's busy in the garden and probably has more muscles than I 😭

[tulip kettle]

personally no

i dont want to lower my peril gen

[sand field]

how do you keep yourself from overloading in moments when enemies are 360 around you

gonna run the vent inferno build in auric now as a test

[tulip kettle]

sounds lame but

just, be better

exploding from peril is almost impossible with inferno

[gray juniper]

In mid havocs;

People aren’t using the bubble
They aren’t doing the boss damage they’re supposed
They aren’t killing enough specials

I’m about to say fuck it and just use vent still

[tulip kettle]

valid

though

in mid havoc with shriek imma probably just run blazing VB

[gray juniper]

My face when the ogryn, the arbites and the next one can’t kill the twins

https://tenor.com/view/face-palm-oh-god-why-ugh-gif-11669669

[sand field]

true, but I do run empyric

[plucky flax]

I can play if want.

[plucky flax]

Also low warp resistance is good.

[tulip kettle]

easiest trick is just, if you see peril go over 97, press swap weapon

you likely want to be stabbing then anyway

[gray juniper]

Yea I just made this set before leaving the house this week for this reason. Need to practice vb more for proper havoc use

[plucky flax]

Never perfect timing it's really good and always up.

[sand field]

this is why I ask questions here, thanks all for the info

and it's perfectly fine to say 'get gud' or 'be better'

[gray juniper]

I didn’t see the need for the low res staves but when people aren’t carrying I see why you need it

[sand field]

to have a build and to use a build are two different things.

[plucky flax]

I have nearly 3k hours and I need to get gid daily.

[sand field]

how do I 'get gud' against 6 crushers?

Dodge sideways works for the first overheads, but the second half of the pack will hit?

[tulip kettle]

dont be in that situation

when you see the crushers coming, make sure you have a way out

if not, you WILL end up as a pancake

[sand field]

Trust me that is how I play but there are those moments...

[tulip kettle]

yeah and those moment shappen

[radiant frigate]

mr. miyagi says "no be there"

[tulip kettle]

everyone dies

[radiant frigate]

if you absolutely have to be there, make the crushers not be there

[sand field]

And I'm trying to find out when I'm the problem and when others are a problem, or both.

[hearty wolf]

You tend to die when the arb pulls two bosses and every single carapace pack on the map and holds w

[gray juniper]

Ahem…

Git gud

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-carey-drinking-drink-time-wine-day-wine-gif-14720870

[radiant frigate]

also I do not want to say git gud anymore

but rather, become proficient

seek expertise

[tulip kettle]

oooo

fresh cuts

acquire experience

[radiant frigate]

Yes

this one gets it

[gray juniper]

Jokes aside, push attack

[plucky flax]

Spam F and win gaming

[tulip kettle]

yup, push attack if you have any type of force sword

[radiant frigate]

a crusher on the floor is a crusher that cannot crush you

[sand field]

but if it's multiple?

[radiant frigate]

or you can summon 30 crushers in psykhanium with creature spawner and dance until you manage to survive

[tulip kettle]

ooooooooo

[radiant frigate]

it's pretty easy with ds4

[tulip kettle]

show build?

[gray juniper]

OR

OR

vent then move so the team is between you and them

Offload problems

[tulip kettle]

until you are literally surrounded

and its final toll

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[plucky flax]

It's just the regular surge build but I use fgs instead of illisi for better single target and still good horde clear.

It was maelstrom anyway so surge spam is just OP.

That 40s clip net me like 70+ kills though was good

[gray juniper]

This is also why I chose to carry deimos for stagger on attack. Push attacks + knock back attack makes a lot of space

[radiant frigate]

wtf shriek abuser

[plucky flax]

I used it 5 times.

[gray juniper]

@sand field with ragers, bulwarks and crushers, you really only want so many approaching you at a time

[plucky flax]

Sub 10s per ability cast OP cdr.

They nerfed psykenetic's aura tho

[tulip kettle]

do you run KD?

[plucky flax]

Yeah I always do cos bad.

[tulip kettle]

and IFR?

[radiant frigate]

oh siblings i just remembered the unhinged thing i wanted to ask

[plucky flax]

No for surge I use vampiric.

[tulip kettle]

awesome ty

[plucky flax]

I don't think it matters either way you get warp charges from elites and specials with surge mainly.

[radiant frigate]

so is it just me or does this song title sound like a darktide mission

[plucky flax]

Sounds like some german techno song.

[upper sun]

yeah kinda

38B(its all AO3)

[plucky flax]

Or industrial ambiance or some shit.

[radiant frigate]

it's power metal

[plucky flax]

Sounds gay.

[radiant frigate]

it's epic

(it's 12 minutes long)

[plucky flax]

The only metal stuff I can listen to is like metallica.

Which is kind of soft I guess?

Crazy screaming hurts me ears.

[gray juniper]

I hate metal

[plucky flax]

@radiant frigate I watch wwe though and this guy's theme song is pretty lit. This is metal? https://youtu.be/kkGk2b1MlbA?si=ROrf8WlkKdRPP5eu&t=29

Don't laugh wrestling is real and serious.

[gray juniper]

Thinking of our brave heroes taking the suplex dives off the top rope

[sand field]

I like deimos, still need to get used to it though

Ran the vent inferno build on vigil station. Got halfway through the mission with only 25% of my health lost, no med stations used.

[gray juniper]

It has no horde clear at all. But it works very well for packs of anything

[sand field]

I really like it

Got barreled off the mid mission bridge, mission ended 1 minute later.

(I did also light a barrel so I'm not without fault)

[sand field]

So with the push attack do you mean the special charged attack?

If I target one crusher in a pack of 4-6 with the special attack, will it also stagger the others? ( I haven't been able to try this in an environment without other players staggering, need to get that mod)

[gray juniper]

No definitely don’t do that

The force push I mean

[sand field]

Haven't downloaded mods because I'm afraid they'll break my game (since the servers are broken enough already)

[sand field]

block push?

[gray juniper]

Yes

Whichever you want to refer to it as. The push that generates peril and fully pushes an enemy back

[sand field]

I don't use the force push enough I think, good tip

[gray juniper]

You may want to push several down at first

If there’s literally 6 in front of you, you want to handle 3 at the most

Given that you have the time for this

[ornate hamlet]

I forgot and i just power sleep for an hour

Also i am on console

[trail panther]

bro this director hates me

I got downed and it spawned 3 bursters, 2 tox flamers, and a tox bomber

[plucky flax]

Wouldn't matter in non-havoc.

I failed to clutch it was very sad.

[marble crater]

Get ready for Karien flame

[hearty wolf]

BF6 is pretty sick

[ornate hamlet]

Why? Ppl die all the time and blame it on console ppl

[plucky flax]

I have like 95% win rate in non havoc. In havoc it's like 15% xd

[ornate hamlet]

I only did a couple of havoc games on havoc 16, but I didn't like it,i ain't touching it any time soon

[plucky flax]

True its a different beast.

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1274487631987605674/GVHX15RXoAApby3-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[late python]

I feel like I have a near zero win rate with havoc, especially around lvl 30

need to get a squad together or something to actually play havoc, i've only been able to get into games with randoms once in a blue moon

[plucky flax]

Me when an ogryn touch me in havoc

I play havoc mostly with random people using in game lfg so the quality of teammates is very hit or miss

[late python]

yeah, although my issue is that it just takes a long time to get into an actual game

I don't really mind if teammates are struggling a little*

[paper oriole]

Better gambling then the casino 🤭

[late python]

I love gambling

[ripe obsidian]

Party Finder has gone very well and very poorly for me. It is, as Varus said, a gamble

[plucky flax]

Even as a really good psyker this class is just too bad truly the worst class pls buff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1403754086171541547/image.png?ex=6898b35e&is=689761de&hm=3f77bb1dc7f8e9997c04d9da0a9db2b2b942c31b7fcc5fae85ac09bae58db3e3&

[paper oriole]

It is what it is

Someone will have to be “takes skill to play class”

[rancid jasper]

id take a snip of the "you are really good at psyker" and make it my pfp

[plucky flax]

Is tru he said your name too

[ripe obsidian]

Have a music

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=tUa14ly7N8M&si=dSE18HkRzfYkaw-j

[visual phoenix]

Buff psyker

[ripe obsidian]

Wow, Royale w/ Cheese is still making VT2 guides.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/1mlokv3/new_kerillian_guide_and_update_on_all_build_guides/

[gray juniper]

But is it really that low?

[strong gulch]

it is when I'm around

[gray juniper]

I gotta say.. same

[ripe obsidian]

I think Agent has a 0% Havoc winrate with me

[strong gulch]

Karien wasn't on the team.

[radiant frigate]

that's why he's the GOAT

[gray juniper]

Karien and me did that man dirty. 2 way lag from the get go. I’m jumping out and getting hit a lot in the opening

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

I am the anchor tied around Agent's neck.

Just too heavy

[ripe obsidian]

Truly. What a champion. His guides were pinned in my browser when I was on a big VT2 kick

[strong gulch]

I miss VT2

too clunky now, but I miss it

[ripe obsidian]

VT3 with Darktide movement, pls.

[plucky flax]

Tru

I actually prefer fantasy settings

[strong gulch]

give us sprinting

please

[plucky flax]

Bh with the spinning revolver was my fav

And the free ammo on crit

Falchion + mag dump spinny right click

[strong gulch]

When VT1 maps started to be added to VT2, I got so confused lmao.

[proper osprey]

I believe vt3 we will be apprentices of the 5 hero’s and it’ll have custom characters

If vt3 ever happens

[ripe obsidian]

I was a Witch Hunter Captain player, primarily. Press F for 100% crit chance, have the talent for instakill on headshot crits. Chop, chop, chop

[proper osprey]

I love whc

And unchained

And zealot

It’s like the only classes I can play

And slayer ig

Mainly whc for his insane stam

[strong gulch]

I played sienna until sister of the thorns released.

[edgy smelt]

i was more into grail knight and ranger vet... kinda played everyone though

[tulip kettle]

load into zealot

melk says " a little room for air please, i have no need to share in your, "enviable" aroma "

what did he mean by this

[pale prairie]

Warrior of sigmar and gromril dwarf for me

Also @plucky flax do you ever go warp battery on your EK build?

[pale prairie]

You went to holy Terra once and refused to bathe again because you had touched the same air the Emperor had

[tulip kettle]

yea, because i went to terra, thats why 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/public-service-announcement-psa-public-service-announcement-announcement-big-news-breaking-news-gif-13338813778466971926

C I V I

[glacial vapor]

I think I've had my fill of dodging overheads recently

[pale prairie]

Event?

[glacial vapor]

Yes

[pale prairie]

Yeah finally finished yesterday and it was fun for a bit but man was it tiring

I think it’s cause it is so hit or miss if people know how to handle armor packs

Or if they are going to just hold trigger on rumbler and pray

[plucky flax]

Ye

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1403731078895763497/Desktop_2025.08.09_-_14.24.52.06.mp4?ex=68989df1&is=68974c71&hm=890ff3fa2da40ae7c1a403eb6d93793ba1d37549aee4e1f548ffe470cc1adff7&

[marble crater]

You stink, like all zealots

[pale prairie]

Do you not use wildfire?

[plucky flax]

I use it

[pliant ether]

"Bro you need to take a shower"

"Its called AURA bruh."

[plucky flax]

I tried fgs mk8 on my surge build (no attack speed talent) and it was so bad.

Thinking it'd be better for horde clear but mk6 is just better for me.

[hushed egret]

what curios do y'all run for Havoc? health and toughness seem pointless to the end of extending your room for error, wounds probably arent enough to prevent being one shot by overheads, which leaves stamina to seem like the only one worth a damn but kinetic deflection exists

[strong gulch]

At this point you know FGS 6 too well.

[plucky flax]

I run triple toughness but I die in 1 hit anyway.

[edgy smelt]

cosmetic curios

[hushed egret]

tempted to drop kinetic deflection and stack stamina

[plucky flax]

Based 60 toughness enjoyer.

You die to the wind.

[hushed egret]

40

[strong gulch]

Curios are pretty personal pref, but toughness does help me live just a tiny bit more unless it's the floor is goo map and no cleansing.

[edgy smelt]

yeah i take toughness jokes aside and still go horizontal

[plucky flax]

Me in every havoc round.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1398707424759910410/Desktop_2025.07.26_-_17.43.11.07.mp4?ex=6898cc4c&is=68977acc&hm=2d7491918521c8c9d3c5ea222877859c1551e4e3f509788c515982b37f3a91f8&

[hushed egret]

toughness only gives like, +20 toughness in higher levels, and is only really useful against gunners who have already killed you if your toughness went down anyway which is why I'm debating swapping it out. just doesnt feel useful in Havoc

I'm tired of being one shot

[edgy smelt]

i mean thats the life you signed up for when you picked psyker

that and constant insults from everyone

in game and out

[gray juniper]

Melk said this when I was on psyker also. Thinks he’s just saying I’m trash

[edgy smelt]

no hes saying you smell, very bad

[pliant ether]

i dont think he gets to complain that the rejects smell bad when the inquisition doesn't give us bathrooms to shower in

[edgy smelt]

i dont think melk cares if its fair or not

[tulip kettle]

3 22% toughness curios gives you either 100 / 125 toughness

[gray juniper]

There’s a decontamination chamber somewhere

[tulip kettle]

in havoc 40

depending on your talents

[bright summit]

2x +3 stamina 1 toughnes

[gray juniper]

Its lore because its mentioned over the vox announcements

[tulip kettle]

and then stamina is also not great because KD exists and your stam regen is already insane

[edgy smelt]

thats it triple hp

[tulip kettle]

HP can let you survive more chip, but you will take way more dmg because being on 60 toughness max sucks majorly

[bright summit]

Double stamina gives you 1/2 extra points for something else other than kd it's very nice

[gray juniper]

I’m a fan of stamina myself, but more than one may not be a good idea

[bright summit]

Also it's for running more so than blocking

[tulip kettle]

its still less efficient than KD

[gray juniper]

Diminishing returns

[tulip kettle]

and you have infinite stamina when running and sliding

on psyker

[bright summit]

None of the other curios do anything lol so idc

[tulip kettle]

yeah you do you

but the diff between 60 and 100 toughness is not insignificant

[bright summit]

Yeah but you get 2 talent points

[pliant ether]

i like x2 toughness x1 stamina because I am bad and toughness makes up for how bad I am

[bright summit]

It's 77 vs 100 actually

[gray juniper]

“Run along lil’ hard head”

[tulip kettle]

you dont have 77 toughness with no toughness on curios

[bright summit]

.

[tulip kettle]

maybe with an extra 15 from the tree idk but then thats a 125 tough build with 3 curios

[gray juniper]

Because you get how much as base in havoc 40?

[tulip kettle]

on my build with 0 toughness from curios its 60

• 66% from curios makes 100

[strong gulch]

The only time I'd actually rec +3 stam and KD if it's not for personal pref is if it is feeding a PA heavy playstyle or weapon or if you want to be ready for a DH at all times.

But then we have a convo about being set up for something that doesn't happen often vs most of a game.

[gray juniper]

Under 100 toughness in havoc 40 sounds like a really bad time

[bright summit]

Fwiw I don't run bubble so stam matters a lot

[gray juniper]

Well under 80 at least

[bright summit]

No tbh there's not much difference

[tulip kettle]

i mean, there is

because of how it works

wether 60 or 100 toughness max the first hit at full toughness does no dmg

but with 60 toughness its likely to just remove your entire bar

[gray juniper]

True shit

[tulip kettle]

then the next hit kills you

[strong gulch]

ye

[gray juniper]

I’m speaking from experience experience

[bright summit]

I run a setup with 77 toughness

Just like don't get hit by grunts twice

[pliant ether]

I just like toughness because I feel that building for perfect play is a losing game. You are not a computer and you will make mistakes, even if you're literally Johnathan Darktide himself. Toughness is just a good safety net to prevent you from getting destroyed instantly by a single mistake

[gray juniper]

You’re compensating with stamina though

[spice oar]

Stamina and toughness are the only good curios apart from wound zealot

[bright summit]

Also if you think about it's 2 mistakes in a row because you are immune to hp damage on first hit so meh

[marble crater]

You can take stamina and KD from my cold, dead hands

[gray juniper]

I prefer health and toughness mix but I won’t place stamina above them

[strong gulch]

"Don't get hit" has entered the chat.

Just don't take curios.

[upper sun]

i still do 1 hp 1 tough 1 stam on psyker

[marble crater]

True

[gray juniper]

True. I should stop talking as the master has entered while asking for advice

[marble crater]

You don't even play psyker

[spice oar]

See that’s what I thought at first too, but Mister E made a good video explaining it all

[gray juniper]

Omg twinsies

[pliant ether]

truely a mindset for the ages

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-super-truth-nova-truth-meme-gif-16889273424352737553

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1398707424759910410/Desktop_2025.07.26_-_17.43.11.07.mp4?ex=6898cc4c&is=68977acc&hm=2d7491918521c8c9d3c5ea222877859c1551e4e3f509788c515982b37f3a91f8&

[upper sun]

no i play like 1 game a week eat dirt then stop

[marble crater]

[pliant ether]

the music makes it

[gray juniper]

Mr. E says psyker isn’t even one of the top classes and can’t clutch or even make he best at horde clear, so idk about his opinions tbh

[spice oar]

Fair he ain’t right about everything

And he’s an avid psyker hater which puts him on our kill-list

[marble crater]

Other classes would have survived Agent's clip, just saying

[spice oar]

But the curios are right from trying them out myself

[gray juniper]

So true king

Other classes have rear view mirrors

[plucky flax]

Crusher hates the weeknd confirmed.

[strong gulch]

Curios should meet you where you are tbh.

[spice oar]

Do you guys also watch his fail-analysis videos cause those slap

[strong gulch]

They are not as impactful as people want them to be.

[gray juniper]

Those are actually pretty good. I’ve seen two

[plucky flax]

Is he good enough to be making analyses?

[spice oar]

Dark tide YouTube was in need of some kind of content like that ngl

[gray juniper]

Beans made the peak point

We’re debating marginal numbers

[ripe obsidian]

I do not watch any Darktide youtubers. They tend to present opinion as fact and get high on their own self-importance.

[marble crater]

You mean farts

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, that

Then people parrot those opinions like they're gospel

Next thing you know, people are running Empyric Shock Inferno and driving me bonkers

[strong gulch]

ye

[plucky flax]

Never watch that unsanctionedpsyker.

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah, new vid

[gray juniper]

That guy is really good. He’s just such an asshole

[marble crater]

I always watch him to flame in his comment section

[tulip kettle]

just quickly, lets assume 2 normal scenarios :

1: 100 toughness, 150 hp, 40% TDR from OWTW and 5% Nodes
2: 77 toughness, 150 hp, 40% TDR from OWTW and 5% Nodes

a havoc poxwalker hits you in the back, doing 150 dmg.

1 : 150 * 0.6 = 90 damage to toughness, leaving you with 10 toughness
2: 150 * 0.6 = 90 dmg to toughness, leaving you with 0 toughness

the poxwalker / another walker hits you, again for 150 dmg

1: you take 10 dmg to toughness, then 128 dmg, leaving you alive with 22 hp
2: you take 150 hp dmg, you die

[plucky flax]

Maths.

[strong gulch]

yip

[marble crater]

Mathe

[bright summit]

You don't have 150 HP you die anyways

[strong gulch]

maf

[gray juniper]

Yelp!

[tulip kettle]

more than 150hp max is very normal

[marble crater]

I have 188 health

[ripe obsidian]

Are we arguing about toughness versus stamina again?

[strong gulch]

no

[bright summit]

? How so

[marble crater]

Can we?

[pliant ether]

god wants us to suffer this endless debate

[strong gulch]

we can

[gray juniper]

Why not?

[ripe obsidian]

Stamina has diminishing returns. 1 stamina curio is fine. More than 1 is goofy.

[marble crater]

Karien will flame you

[still ingot]

im a double stamina believer tbh

[plucky flax]

She just flames everyone.

Not even unsanctioned is safe.

[tulip kettle]

i may have dreamt it

but i thought she told me i needed to press dodge on my zealot yesterday

[pale panther]

I just watch Darktide videos breaking down weapons.

[marble crater]

Should rename himself to Inflammable, because English makes sense and this is the opposite of flammable

[ripe obsidian]

I say >:( at you.

[pale prairie]

I use to go 2 toughness and 1 stamina. Now I just use all toughness cause I realized I was hardly ever tapping out my stamina and KD was plenty for resing. Vent shriek is available if I am tanking boss

[plucky flax]

Sounds like something karien would say.

[pale prairie]

Throw code at them

[still ingot]

gilb (god i love blocking)

[ripe obsidian]

I go 2x toughness, 1x health, because with 3x toughness I was taking too much damage from bursters. Took me below 1 wound.

[bright summit]

Many are saying this

[gray juniper]

Two are

[pale prairie]

Yeah I solved this by not taking damage from bursters

[gray juniper]

Like just get gud six. It’s not that hard!

[still ingot]

infinite stamina to push bursters, my beloved

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/im-trying-to-save-your-life-ill-save-you-rescue-arthur-spooner-jerry-stiller-gif-15797854

[plucky flax]

Tru and real.

[gray juniper]

Whenever I play Darktide, everything goes as expected and there’s never any surprises or mistakes

It’s just what good is like

[tulip kettle]

i, personally, have never once been disabled

[pale panther]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[strong gulch]

Nor assassinated.

[gray juniper]

Xray mod. Lets you see trappers behind walls, bulwarks and corners

[pale prairie]

Can’t be disabled if you already are

[still ingot]

shotgunners are the only disabler that matters

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-factos-gif-24924684

[pliant ether]

the omnipresent gun scab

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-porter-tea-gif-22730399

[bright summit]

TRUTH nuke

[gray juniper]

Beans has a story?

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, I will break this down with maths.

With Kinetic Deflection, the way peril generation is calculated is (block cost/max stamina)*.25.

So if you have 3 bars of stamina and an attack would take 1.5 to block, that's 50% divided by 4 for 12.5% peril generation.

Add 2 bars with +stamina on weapons, and you now have 1.5 / 5 / 4 for 7.5% peril generation. Add another 3, and it's 4.7% peril generation. Another 3 and it's 3.4%. You're gaining almost nothing.

[strong gulch]

I am. Always. I fought to make a sandwich last night.

[still ingot]

kinetic deflection is for wusses

[tulip kettle]

objectively one of the best talents in the entire game is for wusses

i will remember that

[still ingot]

yea

[ripe obsidian]

If you're talking about loving blocking but you don't use Kinetic Deflection on Psyker, this isn't a discussion I'm gonna waste time with

[tulip kettle]

based

[pale prairie]

Pffff why do you think hot pockets and uncrustables were invented? Sandwiches are hard mode

[gray juniper]

Oh? The lowly shotgunner troubles you at times?

https://tenor.com/view/thor-hulk-gif-12609821035834277403

[pliant ether]

i personally dont enjoy it so it must be objectively bad

[bright summit]

Kd is really optional tbh

[still ingot]

hehehe brain burst go brrrr

[strong gulch]

Because one hurts by tummy and the other I fookin hate.

[pale prairie]

Lmao I saw someone in the Reddit saying that it’s a skill issue node and stamina regen is so high you don’t need it for resing

[ripe obsidian]

Hey, I was watching Ainz stream last night, and they were talking about how Bursters are acting weird lately and ruining their runs. If Ainz dies to bursters, then I feel no shame dying to bursters, too.

[tulip kettle]

yup

[pale prairie]

A person of culture I see

[tulip kettle]

we were playing yesterday and i watched sin push a burster through himself

[still ingot]

truth supernova honestly

[tulip kettle]

like he pushed it one way and it went through him behind him

madness

[bright summit]

Get more stamina

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna play 1 maybe 2 rounds? (Win optional)

[pliant ether]

tummyache survivor

[gray juniper]

Stamina. Diminishing. Returns.

[still ingot]

my beloved tells me i need more stamina gains

[tulip kettle]

im down if your back is feeling strong 🙂

[pale prairie]

Oh for sure I feel no shame dying to them but I ain’t changing no curios for them. Then again I haven’t died to them in a while. It’s poxwalkers maaaaan

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. That is what I said

[strong gulch]

yes

[gray juniper]

Tysm I swear I needed this

[plucky flax]

Not super strong in havoc but in maelstrom I'll manage fine. Xd

[pliant ether]

does win (never) work for you

[pale prairie]

That it happened to sin makes me guffaw

[plucky flax]

Come on fren

[bright summit]

I play smite for this

[strong gulch]

loading

[still ingot]

smite exclusively for bursters are awesome

[plucky flax]

Maybe we play maelstrom and chill havoc is too hard I lost 2 games today.

[still ingot]

smite is a real blitz

[pale prairie]

What are the modifiers?

[plucky flax]

I have red and ritual.

Ritual but it started before we even got to the lift.

Xd

In mercantile.

[strong gulch]

[pale prairie]

More like skill issue confession. You aren’t playing high density anything if just normal stamina amounts are enough to res a friend. Also they never addressed my statement about tanking the second boss in multiboss modifiers

[pale prairie]

Ritual is cancer

[hushed egret]

seeing them ignore push, not jump to detonate, and even saw one ignore smite today

[plucky flax]

Also 1 guy died and ragequitted didn't help.

[still ingot]

i waste endless hours on h40 dw hun

ur secure in me playing high density <3

[ripe obsidian]

The ignore pushing bit is always fun. Casual push > it's still coming > concerned push > still coming > frantic button mashing to push and dodge > dead.

[pale prairie]

Was addressing to the Reddit guy. You at least have stamina curios. No KD is a choice but this guy on Reddit 🙄

[bright summit]

I mean depending on setup 0 stamina is fine

[gray juniper]

This is all really weak rage bait tbh

[bright summit]

If ur running bubble

[still ingot]

sounds like reddit guy is right tbh

[pale prairie]

Finally saw your build and was like “this guy throwing”

[pliant ether]

why do you think i'm rage bating

[still ingot]

could be a pioneer

[bright summit]

Otherwise take as much as possible

[pliant ether]

because i'm not

[gray juniper]

Because it’s waste-our-time bait

[pale prairie]

Nah death has already been pioneered in the game

[plucky flax]

Tru I would never trust bubble knight.

[pliant ether]

mb big dawg for wanting to be a humorous creature i promise to never do it again

[pale prairie]

Used to then I saw one die to a crusher

[bright summit]

Just stop dying

It's simple

[pale prairie]

Hence KD

[bright summit]

The true kinetic deflection is having a friend in call who's on a Frontliner character

[still ingot]

ogryn is actually KD

[bright summit]

It's reliable

[pale prairie]

You play you I guess. You’d fit right in with him

[pliant ether]

your friendly slab does not deserve this

[still ingot]

the behemoth is having fun shush

[bright summit]

Ogryn is also free meat shield

[gray juniper]

Yes this reads as a getting carried confessional

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

Ogryns only use Gunlugger Rumbler

[pale prairie]

This can’t be real

[still ingot]

gunlugger isnt real

[pale prairie]

Exactly my thoughts

[bright summit]

Yeah they removed ogryn right tree last patch

[pale prairie]

Or just dying a lot but it’s not me it’s my team

[still ingot]

its not on my talent tree

[marble crater]

It is, guess I will play BF6 beta tomorrow

[hearty wolf]

I went from

"It's so good"

[ripe obsidian]

Humor is punishable by death.

[hearty wolf]

to

[ripe obsidian]

No jokes here.

[hearty wolf]

"it's so dogshit"

[bright summit]

Ngl this is true if you have comms

[hearty wolf]

the NVO is so absurdly strong

[pale prairie]

Only good jokes

[hearty wolf]

but so dogshit without attachments

[bright summit]

It is your teams fault if you die

[still ingot]

true

[pliant ether]

can i request death by silly or will it be the firing squad

[still ingot]

they should be protecting my brittle bones from the scaries

[marble crater]

No idea what this means

[hearty wolf]

is the ak

[wind wind]

Anyone willing to tell me they secrets to assail feeling good to use? In the builds i use it it feels like shit

[hearty wolf]

like thing

[pale prairie]

Nah you have 10 stamina and no KD your invincible. Block those overheads

[marble crater]

Eww, I never liked using those for some reason

[pale prairie]

Are we in the future or the past or parallel world? The series has gotten wild

[marble crater]

Present, I think

[still ingot]

now you get it

[bright summit]

Why are you blocking overheads as psyker even with kd

[marble crater]

Or present parallel world at most

[bright summit]

Evacuate the situation post haste

[ripe obsidian]

Please, we're civilized people. We don't use a firing squad. We pop your head like a melon with our psychic powers.

[pale prairie]

I loved the world war 1 it was so cinematic and atmospheric. Hope this one is good

[pliant ether]

its set in a Present/A little in the future Parallel timeline

[still ingot]

just block 4head

[pale prairie]

Baited

[bright summit]

Am i

[pliant ether]

So all the guns and vehicles are like modern but the events of the game are set in a parallel timeline

[still ingot]

KD is actually just scriers

[pale prairie]

Anyway so I am leaving you alone in horde to chase elite kills

[still ingot]

thank you i thrive in this environment

[marble crater]

Just because you can spam it, doesn't mean you should spam it
Use it to snipe specials, help with clear and peril during melee and throwing it into groups of shotgunners for the memes

[still ingot]

i love aura farming on elites

[pale prairie]

But psychic bees is funny. Especially when they run

[bright summit]

The grunt killer single target psyker build

[pliant ether]

me on my way to use brain burst on every pox walker and calling that horde clear

[still ingot]

running voidstrike for singular grunt clear

[pale prairie]

Crit build?

[bright summit]

"single target can be horde clear if you kill very fast" - waste 2023

[wind wind]

I do allat and it still feels inconsequential

[pale prairie]

You responded thinking I am serious sooooooooo yeah. Enjoy the cheese 🧀

[wind wind]

You got one ? Pls

[ripe obsidian]

Death by psychic bees is reserved for worse criminals, like people who abandon the Psyker to the melee twin while they go chase down a singular poxwalker.

[pale prairie]

You trying to ONLY use assail?

[pliant ether]

that pox walker was going to end the game bro

[bright summit]

I'm so cheesed out rn

[still ingot]

im cheesed to meet you

[pale prairie]

PTSD

[bright summit]

Grunts are the most dangerous enemies in the game it's true

[wind wind]

If you have a build like that i would try it for the memes. Usually i use assail in my melee psyker build

[still ingot]

singular grunt walks into a hab dreyko, ends run with one slap

[ripe obsidian]

"Melee twin is scary. Don't wanna get close to that. Glad it's chasing the psyker and not me. :D"

[pliant ether]

Wolfer wishes this was true

[still ingot]

melee twin is fake because you can block

[pale prairie]

I mean I don’t think assail is really meant as a main weapon outside low difficulties because armor shatters the spikes and you see way more mixed hordes. If you insist I would go right side of tree and end up with EP. Try to get crit and ranged damage nodes

[bright summit]

Melee twin is a fake twin

[pale prairie]

It’s happened a couple times where I get pinned between melee shield twin and wall and just insta die. It’s kind of irritating. Like the shield shockwave triggers and I apparently clip into wall which just kills me straight up

[still ingot]

sounds like a block issue buddy

[ripe obsidian]

Melee twin is at least not as screwy as the sword captain. Sword captain's swipe goes through block. I think melee twin doesn't. Would have to double-check the code. Just going by what Ainz said last night

[verbal thistle]

Rinda is way weaker then a captain

The only thing is she is relentless since she doesn't switch to ranged

[ripe obsidian]

Speak of the Ainz, and they doth appear.

[pale prairie]

Is it the move set?

[still ingot]

and hotter tbh

[verbal thistle]

Ye

[pale prairie]

I dunno I was using my totally real only stamina curios build so I should have been fine

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, getting shoved around an arena by Rinda/melee twin is just a pain. Endless, pushy combos

[verbal thistle]

By miss kitty

[still ingot]

just block lol

[pale prairie]

And everybody goes for the ranged twin

[verbal thistle]

Real threat is rodin in confined space

[pale prairie]

Oh my god you’re right! How does that work? Is it space bar?

[still ingot]

this is me at the 3/4 point in chasm station every game

guaranteed twins spawn i stg

[ripe obsidian]

Don't waste your time responding. They're just trying to get a reaction.

[verbal thistle]

Nearly like 90% in higher havoc

I think 30 plus is around 95%

[still ingot]

yeah i know but i think theres a ghost in fatsharks machine trying to kill me

[pale prairie]

I have little siblings this is just a Tuesday for me

[verbal thistle]

Director is pretty easy to predict with knowledge

Twins trigger same as boss triggers

[still ingot]

the director can bite me honestly

[verbal thistle]

Easy to learn

[waxen pollen]

director is easy to predict if u have a thousand hours in the game 😌

[pale prairie]

Try like 3000

[still ingot]

that one room on magristrati where the demonhost can spawn, after mid event past the drop down across the bridge

[verbal thistle]

Simply, if progression is made trigger can be passed and more enemies will spawn

Stand still and director will run out of enemies

Horde exhaustion

[still ingot]

theres like 4 morbillion triggers in there and u sometimes gotta go in

[bright summit]

Actually the solution is to play 500 hours of modded vermintide

[verbal thistle]

Not really

[still ingot]

yayyy!! rituals!!!!

[bright summit]

Then the director is like

Simple

[pale prairie]

Only 500?

[verbal thistle]

Probably around 50 triggers per map

[still ingot]

its a lovehate relationship

[bright summit]

500 if ur goated

[verbal thistle]

I asked a friend to make a mod to show triggers

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[still ingot]

did they survive

[bright summit]

Just learn the maps lmao take like 20 mins to learn a map

Hours don't mean anything if you aren't learning

[verbal thistle]

They did make it

[still ingot]

how many scars did they having coming out of it

[verbal thistle]

Don't think I'm able to share sadly

[still ingot]

its ok i have the fatshark vision curse from vermintide

i see lines in the ground and pretend its a trigger

[wind wind]

Thank you. I tried to get the assail fans here but as of now, i am still a smite fan and horribly underwhelmed by it

[still ingot]

smites like a utility more than a real blitz tbh

[bright summit]

Any memory users instead of brainlessly hitting a wall enjoyers

Smite is funny

[still ingot]

kiteloops arent real sorry </3

[gray juniper]

That’s rogue wondering why she’s lost in another franchise

[still ingot]

pump those stamina bars up its the only thing we have anymore

they took it all away, the swords, the staffs, the brain bursts

we only have one method of winning now

[pale prairie]

It’s a solid emergency trigger button but it’s not popular cause it can make the game boring for people that love melee

[wind wind]

I love it and i savour the cries and tears of the zealots that hate it

[still ingot]

endless kiting jail </3

[still ingot]

zealot skill issue i fear

[wind wind]

True. Luckily I have the empathy of Ted Bundy. I do what i want

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-miller-new-girl-jake-johnson-do-your-thing-go-crazy-gif-16700692

[wind wind]

P R E A C H

[wind wind]

💅🏻

[upper sun]

@plucky flax @strong gulch you guys need an emergency +1?

[still ingot]

assail is real for DD stacks but otherwise its like throwing glass at a brick wall

[pale prairie]

I’ll be there to pick you up like the last smyker I played with

[gray juniper]

Like just don’t die

[strong gulch]

yeah there's room

[still ingot]

im back dodging and holding m2 🙏

[plucky flax]

Yeah you wanna play civi?

[upper sun]

yeee

[strong gulch]

Join off agent @upper sun

[bright summit]

Im side dodging and holding m2 I fear I'm just better zzzz

[still ingot]

the burgle isnt real if i just dont callout that im puked on

[bright summit]

Just ledge it

[waxen jackal]

For the purg staff is it better to spam lights or charge up an attack? So blaze away gets proced

[still ingot]

for purge what you do is switch to electrokinetic and live a blessed life without purge

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

[bright summit]

truth supernova

[still ingot]

but fr you should charge up

[ripe obsidian]

Charged is better for faster soulblaze stacks and more damage. LMB spam will still keep Blaze Away up, but it's less damage overall. More stagger, though

[still ingot]

primary staggers stuff like ragers but charging is generally a better idea than that

[bright summit]

Step one of purge is feel bad for playing purge and understand how havocs are balanced around it as a result it's pretty shit

[still ingot]

truke

electrokinetic truthers

[pale prairie]

You want to spam RMB and LMB is your stagger to stop death and reposition to do another RMB. You want to do 40-50% charge pumps to maximize damage to Blaze away proc

[bright summit]

The real play is you run brittleness on it

[still ingot]

full charge with pen flame my beloved

[bright summit]

Blaze away is fake

[waxen jackal]

Electrokinetic is my fav staff. Gotta switch it up sometimes tho

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-536487951695337499

[still ingot]

based

[gray juniper]

Remind me again what were you first working on last time you were asking around? What’s your build goal? Was it penances?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-10659435423332445922

[gray juniper]

Yea pretty much. Imagine getting swallowed. Newb move tbqh

[still ingot]

pen flame is basically just better blaze away if u think about it

[pale prairie]

It is to conquer the world with bees

[pale prairie]

Pen flame doesn’t increase the stagger of RMB pump

[bright summit]

Yeah but who cares

Just dodge

[still ingot]

bit of a rookie maneuver

stagger is for those who dont believe

[jovial juniper]

Not really

[bright summit]

Ur a back liner anyways just do damage and let the frontliners hold space for u

[winged creek]

someone was saying that blaze away applies to kinetic flayer brain rupture procs

[pale prairie]

And yet you main EK which has a huge stagger on the RMB

[bright summit]

SHE DOESNT PLAY RMB EK LMAO

[ripe obsidian]

I think 45%, +/- a few %, is the maximum to keep Blaze Away up

[still ingot]

there is no m2 on EK idk what ur talking about

[pale panther]

Nah, I'll play my psyker as a frontliner.

Aah, you were at my side, all along.
My true mentor...
My guiding moonlight...

[pale prairie]

Respect the bubble/shriek knight

[verbal thistle]

Sounds about right since BB is affected by global damage increase

[still ingot]

2 shriek psykers walk into a toll/garden chasm station

[radiant frigate]

siblings what is going on here

[bright summit]

Knight implies you don't die when an enemy breathes on you

[radiant frigate]

no

[still ingot]

one of them says "can i get an EK on the warp charges"

[pale panther]

Fellow force greatsword user.

Aah, you were at my side, all along.
My true mentor...
My guiding moonlight...

[radiant frigate]

god bless

[still ingot]

yeah

[bright summit]

? She's right

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[pale prairie]

Couple of people trolling and baiting

[still ingot]

truke sukernova

[pale prairie]

Just some fishing trawlers

[pale panther]

Literally renamed my Psyker to Ludwig just for the peak.

[still ingot]

thoughts on forcesword getting the slash special

[radiant frigate]

what

[still ingot]

fatshark should look into this

[radiant frigate]

so when did we let trolls in here

[ripe obsidian]

That person has been acting this way all day. Better not to engage.

[radiant frigate]

i mean the gaslighting is proceeding at a solid pace

[pale prairie]

Is there a different kind of Darktide player

[radiant frigate]

but what about gatekeep

[still ingot]

aye aye

[pale prairie]

We skipped that and working on the greatsword

[bright summit]

Gaslight gatekeep girlboss

[pliant ether]

you're not a real psyker unless you've died to be big E's battery pack

[radiant frigate]

tell you what, i'll just come back later

'til then, have fun

[still ingot]

bless up greatsword enjoyer

[bright summit]

I like dclaw

[ripe obsidian]

Fare thee well.

[still ingot]

i only run dclaw atp

i might be addicted

[pliant ether]

dclaw is very fun in heinous ritual

its a very good demonhost killer

[bright summit]

Dclaw is very fun

[still ingot]

it doesnt kill but i can parry and thats all i need

[bright summit]

It's kind of a straight upgrade you get +4.5 stamina bars

[still ingot]

god i love blocking

[bright summit]

Being able to spam pushes 🤤

[still ingot]

emprah's strongest KD disliker

[wind wind]

It was trying to understand the assail fanboys as a hardcore smite fanboy. That was all, i tried a scriers gaze gunker and an assail melee build for that

[still ingot]

if assail was more* infinite it might work better on scriers, through warp unbound

[wind wind]

Scriers was for the gun

Or the sword

Assail for high peril

[bright summit]

No scriers is for goated staff players

[still ingot]

pretty interesting, i feel like if assail did more it could work

[upper sun]

🚬

FUCK IT ALL

IM PULLING OUT OGRYN

IDC

[still ingot]

retvrn to slab

or suffer our curse

[bright summit]

What a fabulous slab of meat I am

[tulip kettle]

this man assassinated us all

[plucky flax]

Extremely normal behaviour.

[strong gulch]

@tulip kettle @upper sun @plucky flax Thanks for games. Can't play anymore. My head is hurting.

My bad build was EP BB SG FGS. It felt pretty bad.

[pliant ether]

should've dodged that.

[waxen jackal]

For some reason the game will not let me play trauma. When I load into the game it gives me my previous load out every time

[pliant ether]

totally avoidable bro trust me

[plucky flax]

Tru

[upper sun]

my record remains unbeaten

[tulip kettle]

WHAT

[upper sun]

ZERO won civis this month

[tulip kettle]

i mean

there is 1 common denominator

[upper sun]

ye its u

[pliant ether]

I don't know why this game is so bad at ledge grabs

sometimes you snap to the ledge like you have magnet hands

other times you slip and fall with your face rubbing against the railing

[still ingot]

we need more dclaws clearly

[pale prairie]

Platforming in this game is just your kryptonite

Just heartbreak

[still ingot]

years spent platforming in vermintide have prepared me for anything

[pale prairie]

It’s cause some railings are coded to be grabbed and others not. I don’t know if there is even a discernible pattern

[pliant ether]

small indie studio

[still ingot]

the pattern is that u assume all of them cant be grabbed

[bright summit]

swedish people can't make good games we know that much at least

[still ingot]

ghost ship games, arrowhead, fatshark

its 3 for 3 i fear

[pliant ether]

Put paradox there too

[bright summit]

TRUE

[gray juniper]

You should ask @smoky notch about that for the ethical smite build

[bright summit]

TRUE

[hearty wolf]

"ethical" "smite"

Press F to doubt

[pale prairie]

Lmao “ethical” that’s a wild description

[gray juniper]

*most ethical

[still ingot]

ethical smite is using it exclusively for bursters

[mighty agate]

Ethical for whom

[bright summit]

me when i enter the "insanely good core gameplay loop but fuck the game up in every other way if you can" competition and these are the opponents

[still ingot]

god i love modding my games to be playable

[jovial juniper]

Ethical smite is EP smite
Hold and kill everything

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

[gray juniper]

Yea it was something like that

[marble crater]

Using smite on purpose

[gray juniper]

Very new guy hitting a plateau on heresy or damnation, something like that. We came to help him and sik offered him a build for everything for learning purposes. This is the way to help people 👍

[marble crater]

Interesting

[pale prairie]

I like my lightning to not have hormone injections. Make sure it had a happy life before it fries people alive

[flat nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053437625136070776/1303059119560986715/tenor3-ezgif.com-resize_2.gif

[still ingot]

the lightning is the hormone injections im sorry to say

[wind wind]

Well, i tried to understand assail users, i really did but as of now imma keep annoying the fuck outta the zealots with smite because assail feels boring and not nearly as powerful as advertised by the assail nerds in here

[still ingot]

psyker doesnt have a real blitz unfortunately

smites the best we got </3

[wind wind]

We're friends now. Here is a friendship 🍪

I will try that on my melee psyker

RMB is aiming down sights alternate fire right? The single hardass dart throw, right?

[strong gulch]

You can also do that with guns and assail. Weaving also keeps MM up to buff both warp and non warp.

RMB is aimed (halo), does more damage, and costs more peril.

You can do like 3 regular assails and an aimed one to kill most man sized enemies and smaller.

Assail also has stagger and interruptions. You can still QC (quell cancel) the LMB.

Dreg rager blob? Stagger or even kill with assail. Gunners? Assail to give you time to to do something else and buff you with MM.

BUT if you just don't like it or whatever, that's ok.

[marble crater]

Don't forget to dodge

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Don't laugh this is very serious.

[pale prairie]

“Everything is viable”

[tulip kettle]

and i oooop

[strong gulch]

Did you win son?

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-winning-son-meme-son-gif-1432509823038791530

[tulip kettle]

despite my attempts to kill us both with bursters

yes

[strong gulch]

[tulip kettle]

not a lie honestly

[ripe obsidian]

Try harder.

[vernal temple]

Looking at screenshots on Steam and I see this. wtf? how?

guy somehow went through the first wall without exploding it

[proper osprey]

You gotta slide

And keep sliding

[vernal temple]

sus

[pale prairie]

Apparently the real pro Tech to prevent falling to your death is getting netted

[jovial juniper]

"Tunnel Effect"

[glossy ember]

hi gang it's been a while

gonna try to play this game again hopped on and i see that they reworked scrier's gaze? feels a lot slower to put me to 100%

[upper sun]

😠

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[upper sun]

BRUH

[glossy ember]

also cool that you can now not explode after scrier ends

[upper sun]

id leave the game right there

[pale prairie]

But he didn’t die!

[strong gulch]

wtf

[pale prairie]

Yeah they reworked scriers to vent peril on activate too. But they pretty much nerfed voidstrike by preventing it from interacting with a lot of right tree in the way it used to

[pale prairie]

It was pretty hilarious

[glossy ember]

oh shit i didn't realize

i see

good thing i used surge staff

[pale prairie]

Melee bubble builds with scriers are real popular with the adjustment of the tree and adding some minor melee bonuses on the middle right side above scriers

[glossy ember]

you can run both bubble and scrier? you mean bubble shield?