psyker-class

[plucky flax]

Tru

[hard widget]

i probably would have gotten it if i found one more gunner

[marble crater]

Indeed, how I did it

[pale prairie]

Lmao used to be 5 min

[hard widget]

nice

[visual phoenix]

Who

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-my-prime-funny-ironic-age-old-gif-11480659

[plucky flax]

The legend 🅱️ urgatus

[pale prairie]

Apparently agent pays to win. Got his own custom staff from fatshark devs

[plucky flax]

I have ye dont tell anyone

[visual phoenix]

Valve grade items tf2 moment

[paper oriole]

Did your dad work for FatShark? 🤭

[pale prairie]

One of my first experiences selling digital items for real money

[plucky flax]

Hes fartshart ceo

[pale prairie]

Cool tell him to fix the class trees

[plucky flax]

He's on 3 years vacation after dt release.

[hearty wolf]

Is that just his lunch break or?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/too-many-counting-gif-15929632

[gray juniper]

What’s two minutes of your life?! Nothing! Nothing!!!

[hard widget]

Mortis trials are weirdly lacking in elite spam

You get like...4 gunners..5 ragers

Couple of crushers

[gray juniper]

Family dynasty of long lunches

[pale prairie]

Pfff yeah nothing eyes all the posts about having 2K+ hours in game

[hard widget]

Lots of bosses

[hardy jewel]

Im gonna find a good flame build rq

[gray juniper]

I haven’t reached the hallowed 1k yet. Where’s my couch charm when I do?

[pale prairie]

Me either. Our reward will be class reworks in a couple years

[visual phoenix]

Make it 5

[hardy jewel]

Just chose a pyro build and changed the ability to venting shriek

[plucky flax]

Tru

[hardy jewel]

Bubble is mid imo

[plucky flax]

Its nice for havoc bad for auric

[pale prairie]

Now that’s a hot take

[hardy jewel]

I understand you can use it to make a kill bubble but honestly thats not sigma

Theres an asail psyker here

Ew

[visual phoenix]

It is

You notice how nothing changes almost? About bubble

[hardy jewel]

Its just a bubble

Not even an ordodocket

[visual phoenix]

"Gunners are a problem, we need to take bubble for them"

"No, you just push into them and kill, use vent"

Nothing changes outside of amount of gunners and difficulty

[pale prairie]

Now say something about smite

[pale prairie]

Nets? Flame? Grenades bouncing off? Toughness regen and DR? Pox gas levels?

[hardy jewel]

Its best

Duh

[visual phoenix]

Borga staf spiiinnnnn

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-anakin-good-trick-star-wars-gif-8665986

Beef how was acting in Star Wars episode 1?

[visual phoenix]

I like bubble on final toll, just in case we ran out of dmg somehow

But on other modifiers i stay on vent
Fuck em

[pale prairie]

Honestly I prefer vent because the game is more fun but I do like the ability

[hardy jewel]

Vent is peak

[visual phoenix]

You can say
Beefy

[hardy jewel]

I use pyro vent

Cause im a pyrokinetic

[visual phoenix]

Its just better in every way

Just as always
Dmg over defence

[pale prairie]

I mean I like bubble against twins for cucking the plasma twin while I smash his sister but yeah kill before killed is the mantra as always

[visual phoenix]

Im probably around them just killing hordes
3 ppl can take them without other interference

[pale prairie]

Such is the job of the purgatus

[visual phoenix]

With existence of arbi i should rly bother about bosses, they is just so much better

[pale prairie]

Yeah step aside zealot

Daddy’s home and he brought a dog

[visual phoenix]

Idk about zealot boss dmg, havent played him for a while

I just love chorus :)

So i can think less on my positioning and be more stupid by pushing forward

Love you guys

[pale prairie]

Thunderhammer

[visual phoenix]

Havent seen them for a while

I usualy go with knife

[pale prairie]

I usually have great respect for some who tries to make it work.

[pale prairie]

Yeah spazz pick but it’s goated

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-this-guy-head-shake-gif-12591827

[hardy jewel]

I hate gunners

I see why bubble is used

Ranged enemies are my nightmare

[gray juniper]

Bubble means instead of having a random grenade fall in the middle of everyone while you’re getting pressed on two sides, you pop it up and cancels the whole situation while the horde is swept up

Nobody gets netted

The flamers come from the back row and don’t draw a wall between you and everyone else

[marble crater]

You can also just dodge all those things and stagger the trappers and flamers with vent, smh

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s mostly true, until those specials are behind other chaff

There’s pros and cons to each. Vent is my favorite but not always practical

[marble crater]

Why is the chaff not dead?

[dense flume]

Been a while.... Vent doesn't go through chaff??

[gray juniper]

Because your vent is still cooking them since you were pre-roasting the other horde come from the east while the trapper showed up on the west

[gray juniper]

It does in most cases

[pale prairie]

“Just dodge” = “just don’t get hit” = “just play perfect”

[severe folio]

pretty sure following that dialog it can snowball down to quite absurdity

[pale prairie]

It’s called a disingenuous argument.

Vent is good and bubble is also good

[severe folio]

yeah

scrier good too

[pale prairie]

Scrier is good too for cosplaying as other classes

[severe folio]

as range class too

[pale prairie]

Edited

[severe folio]

true

[rancid jasper]

does warp expenditure+scrier's gaze grant constant toughness regen in gaze?

[hardy jewel]

How do i complete cliffhanger

Im stuck on it

Where do i find 7 enemies close to a ledge

[marble crater]

There are tips in one of the pins

[pale prairie]

I think so?

[marble crater]

Nobody knows, because nobody uses the bad talent that is warp expenditure

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[edgy smelt]

seriously im booting up the game to make ssure im thinking the right one

[hardy jewel]

I don't see any tips

[marble crater]

It's in the third pinned message, Cliffhanger tips

[hardy jewel]

Alright thanks

I know what to do know

Auric maelstrom in carnival

[edgy smelt]

yes but its half the amount of quietude so its pretty bad, better options avalible but hey have fun

[rancid jasper]

dont have enough points to get that and PC anyway so oh well

good to know though, will probably make a funny build with it eventually

tank psyker build
beat the glass cannon allegations

[edgy smelt]

oh no ammount of toughness regen is fixing your paper bones

[hardy jewel]

Healthness is the only way

[rancid jasper]

all health curios

[hardy jewel]

Yea

[pale prairie]

That is one school of thought yes

[rancid jasper]

what's the other? change class xd?

[hardy jewel]

All stamina regen curios

[pale prairie]

All toughness

[edgy smelt]

anticipation and dodge

[pale prairie]

Or mix of 2 toughness/health and 1 stamina

[pale prairie]

Empathic evasion

[rancid jasper]

too hard

i have to press stuff

[edgy smelt]

you get good i frames though

we half way to darksouls

[pale prairie]

Dark souls has the good grace to face you Mano-a-mano this is darkTIDE

[rancid jasper]

i would love to take anticipation in more builds but it's annoying having to waste an extra talent point to get to
i do not want 5% ranged damage :(

[pale prairie]

yeah pathing is bad in tree

I want it but I can’t afford it

[rancid jasper]

psykers tree is weird

look at any of the other classes [idk about arbites] theyre so much more straightforward

psyker tree is designed for irl psykers

[pale prairie]

The zealot and veteran aren’t so straightforward and have a lot of tax nodes in addition to the meta kind of forcing you towards a very narrow focus

[hearty wolf]

Until you realise you either take all left or all right

Until you get to the bottom

[pale prairie]

Hopefully the way Ogryn and arbites trees currently allow many hybrid options is the direction they take the other classes

[edgy smelt]

yeah would be nice

psykinetic aura is my biggest gripe

[rancid jasper]

ik those are the best options but i find it boring to play premade builds, probably one of the reasons i will unlikely get into havoc

[plucky flax]

You can play whatever you want in havoc too.

It's just harder.

[pale prairie]

Psyker is a class that encourages min maxing both in play and in build in order to survive and bring meaningful damage to games

[rancid jasper]

true, but if you're not playing well enough to support what you're running you could be a detriment
which isn't great for anybody

[pale prairie]

But yeah you can play whatever you want it’s just gonna be a learning curve

Like DARK SOULS

[edgy smelt]

the psyker experience

[plucky flax]

Yeah you can also host your own game so no one can flame. Xd

[pale prairie]

Sad that @deft stump forced you to learn this trick

[plucky flax]

She flames me though in my own lobby.

But she's above the law.

[pale prairie]

She is the LEX

[visual phoenix]

[plucky flax]

Big beefy wanna play?

[visual phoenix]

sure

[plucky flax]

I just got in a mael but can do habov after.

[visual phoenix]

lemme reboot my pc

il be online in 5

[severe folio]

guys what is vacuum capsule

[visual phoenix]

vacuum capsule

[severe folio]

i keep hearing the character say it in some havoc vid

what is being tagged for them to say vacuum capsule, what is vacuum capsule ?

[visual phoenix]

private mod

its like an old for the emperror mod

[strong gulch]

Yeah old mod. But those blue power cell looking things.

[visual phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-naked-shirtless-warhammer-40k-gif-4501510790005702292

[severe folio]

i see

[pale prairie]

Damn that guy can’t be hit he’s like in a permanent slide

[hearty wolf]

I mean you can always play with dogshit

But that's not very fun either by crippling yourself

[pale prairie]

Yeah who would ever play the game talentless

[hearty wolf]

Like if you're taking crystalline will for "fun" it's not exactly doing anything

Psyker tree doesn't exactly allow for "fun" matching

Like there aren't many fun perks

Actually that applies to most trees(?)

[rancid jasper]

hm

maybe its just not a fun game lol

[hearty wolf]

It's just the build

Game is sick

[rancid jasper]

yeah im jk game is good

[pale prairie]

Ogryn tree has one that gives 250% stagger on shove every 8 sec

Throw everyone on their ass

Even crushers

[hearty wolf]

If the game had presets instead of builds, I think it would still be fun but not repayable

Even though the builds don't add much diversity imo, the illusion of diversity is cool for your brain ig

[rancid jasper]

i find them fun but i enjoy most things if theyre customizable

[plucky flax]

I'm r

[strong gulch]

have fun

go win

[hearty wolf]

Oh wait it's 17:21

[marble crater]

Not a problem if Karien is in the team

[hearty wolf]

Should I log off

I'm farming Flexi hours atm

[marble crater]

18:22 actually

[strong gulch]

12:22 actually

[marble crater]

Living in the past, smh

[strong gulch]

Yes

[severe folio]

anyone understand how that stupid puzzle in the hab drako tree suppose to work

[brazen compass]

Select the circle that turns green

Three times

[mental rock]

Move around to find the white circle, click that one. Move around with wasd

Do this three times

[severe folio]

circle that turn green ok

wait white or green ?

[pale prairie]

White

[mental rock]

It's white

Not green

[pale prairie]

All of the circles are green and the flash white or red when you move the cursor onto them

[hearty wolf]

What you really do

Is smash M1 as fast as possible

And when you get an error

[mental rock]

The circles will always be in the same place, so if you need to stop to kill things you can remember which ones are white

[hearty wolf]

You don't press that one again

[pale prairie]

Ogryn logic

[hearty wolf]

Faster than waiting

[pale prairie]

[severe folio]

ok

what about the puzzle to disable bomb on the train

[mental rock]

Keep circle in center

Use wasd

That's it

[severe folio]

huh

that seem

pretty hard

for some reason

[pale prairie]

It’s a little difficult

[severe folio]

that circle kept going around

do i just mash all wasd

[pale prairie]

The amount of “movement” required from the circle changes at random

Probably would be easier with a joystick too

[strong gulch]

The puzzles should be available in the mourningstar. So you can figure out in a calm place but also have something to do while you wait.

[mental rock]

Yeah it's random so you need to adapt

[severe folio]

TRUE

[hearty wolf]

What

[pale prairie]

Wait really? Wheee?

[mental rock]

He is saying they SHOULD be, not that they are

[strong gulch]

It SHOULD be. not are, Sorry frens

[pale prairie]

I have only ever practiced in auric with yelling teammates and murdering cultists

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-mulan-crickee-lie-betrayed-gif-4993044

[strong gulch]

Actually, could someone mod this?

[mental rock]

Probably would be difficult

Maybe in the psyk

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-a-terrible-friend-annie-edison-community-i'm-not-a-good-friend-gif-16243989327241927203

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-peter-parker-sandman-spiderman3-i-forgive-you-gif-23309359

[strong gulch]

Yeah maybe. Idk how difficult it would be.

[pale prairie]

I was so pissed at the hab dreyko game when it first came out

[strong gulch]

Having the puzzles tucked away in the mouningstar and no one realizing that it was a stealth change is very fatshark. lmao

[pale prairie]

Zero explanations and no posts anywhere. Not intuitive like the other two games

But after the ogryn failed 3 times I was like “GIVE ME THAT SLAB”

[strong gulch]

much more duress

[hearty wolf]

Is game soon

Where Dom

[strong gulch]

Maybe discord will manifest Dom

just have to complain tho

[hardy jewel]

Fatshark should remove the cliffhanger penance

Its dumb

[strong gulch]

Oh why oh why is Dom not here??? I can't beleive this.

[hardy jewel]

Its gatekeeping the other penances

[strong gulch]

If you haven't been made aware yet there's cliffhanger tips in the 3rd pin.

[hardy jewel]

Ive been using them 💔

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle Patrick

Where are you

[hardy jewel]

Its not working

[mental rock]

Lol cliffhanger is not even that bad now

[strong gulch]

RIP

[mental rock]

It used to be 20 enemies

[hardy jewel]

Its terrible

[hardy jewel]

Id kms

Ngl

[edgy smelt]

i remember getting cliff hanger by accident during a dog wave on hunting grounds

[strong gulch]

Yeah used to be 20 or maybe 22.

[hardy jewel]

How bro 💔

[pale prairie]

When did they change the penances I didn’t even notice

[strong gulch]

A long time ago

[marble crater]

I did cliffhanger on the chasm assassination mission, so I recommend that, but people that aren't mean are somewhat unlucky with the horde spawn, so rip

[hardy jewel]

That would be terrible for me dawg

[pale prairie]

How I got all my penances. Just playing the game

[mental rock]

Like soon after the beta

Maybe 2 patches into release

[hardy jewel]

I got all of them besides fucking cliffhanger by just playing

[edgy smelt]

only ones i didnt get are the private game ones, no friends let alone any who play this game

[strong gulch]

Spawns were in different places and the game wasn't as here's thick hordes of armour. We were also less inflated with damage numbers.

[mental rock]

You got malleus by just playing?

[hardy jewel]

No i got that today with a friends help

Who actually plays private

[pale prairie]

By all my penances I mean: the penances that I do have

Not all THE penances

[hardy jewel]

I have all of the redemption rament set except the hat

Because its locked behind FUCKING CLIFFHANGER

Im gonna sue fatshark for emotional damage

Stupid obese sharks

[edgy smelt]

go stand and block on a bridge then push the pox walker horde off, it should work eventually

[hardy jewel]

Theres so much railing though

[edgy smelt]

depends on map

[strong gulch]

you want to q up and try in a private game?

[pale prairie]

Eh I play for the brain tickle rush of make no mistakes and play perfectly despite AI director fuckery. Basically the Dark Souls high

[edgy smelt]

some maps have some scetchy non-safty complient bridges

[hardy jewel]

Theres one place on the stim mission i tried but it didn't work bc the horde was too far

[mental rock]

On chasm logistratum there is a bridge early on with no railings, it's off to the side

[hardy jewel]

I just got off bc i had to do chores

[hardy jewel]

I'll try that next

[pale prairie]

Not in carnival. There’s that narrow bridge right after first area

[hardy jewel]

With the plank?

[pale prairie]

Yeah

[hardy jewel]

Only issue i have with that is i cant find any enemies there

[pale prairie]

Just wait or up the difficulty

[hardy jewel]

I had it on damnation

[pale prairie]

A horde spawns there for me every time if I “take too long”

[hardy jewel]

Bet I'll def do that

I didn't wait bc my teamates are impatient

[ripe obsidian]

Opening of Mercantile works. Infinite horde.

[hardy jewel]

I wish my ex would come back to me

[hardy jewel]

I can try that too

[pale prairie]

It’s funny cause I have none of these map names memorized

[hardy jewel]

I have one memorised

[hardy jewel]

This one

The stim mission

[pale prairie]

“The one with the frozen forge”
“The one with the water”
“The one with the library”
“Carnival”
“The ritual one”
“The upscale neighborhood with the military base”
“Train station”
“The one in the prison”

[edgy smelt]

ive been playing since launch and same, only one map name clandestine gloriana, though i find that mission fun

[pale prairie]

“Oh hey the one with the batteries”
“The one with the hydraulic chutes”

[hardy jewel]

The forge one is my favorite

[mental rock]

The one with the big elevator at the end

[pale prairie]

“Ammo box one”

I am roleplaying true reject

Fall asleep during briefing

[ripe obsidian]

I only know Mercantile 'cause I use it with MMT to farm contracts

[pale prairie]

That’s actually pretty smart

[edgy smelt]

i can imagine loose canon doing that

[pale prairie]

Yeah I am savant so it doesn’t really fit. He spent all night trying to teach lovable slab to read so he’s bushed

[edgy smelt]

savant is a great voice that has grown on me, used to run loner

something about how he screams for atoma

[ripe obsidian]

Mostly "Kill X Thing" contracts when I want to semi-afk while bots kill things.

Because a real game is too much effort

Seer > Savant > Loner

[strong gulch]

Seer just about broke the 4th wall yesterday.

[pale prairie]

My psyker has a big black beard and tanned skin so it feels more fitting than the reedy screamy voice of the loner even though I love his sarcasm and wit and I don’t like the seer cause he’s fucking nuts

[strong gulch]

Asking about why they hear music the more dangerous things get.

[pale prairie]

Never heard that line but that’s good

[ripe obsidian]

Mine is short, with green skin and a massive helmet relative to his size.

Sorry, green helmet

[pale prairie]

Awww so cute

[ripe obsidian]

Pinkish skin

[pale prairie]

And pink skin?

[ripe obsidian]

I misremembered

[pale prairie]

In your defense I always pictured nurglings as green

[pale prairie]

Hard to remember when your spreading the fathers love

https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-nurgling-pooping-gif-24684196

[ripe obsidian]

It's an all-consuming task, in more ways than one

[pale prairie]

You work too hard

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-24194168

queen of garbage

[pale prairie]

Sorry that you can’t handle how the sausage is made! I mean nurglings

[strong gulch]

Sausage mentioned

Do you know Ordinary Sausage?

[pale prairie]

Ummmm

Do I want to?

[strong gulch]

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[split lance]

There’s a kovaaks scenario called BeanTS

[ripe obsidian]

Puuuuuuuuutresence

[pale prairie]

I will always love Warhammer total war for allowing these beautiful GIFs

[strong gulch]

It's a whole channel about making fecked up sausages and why????? would you do that food experiments.
https://www.youtube.com/@OrdinarySausage

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-flayers-warhammer-total-war-skaven-drive-safely-total-war-warhammer-gif-17177849

[strong gulch]

The aloe sauase still haunts me.

[pale prairie]

Oh no

[strong gulch]

The things I can watch while eating my dinner.

[pale prairie]

WHY?!?

Emperor preserve us it’s an abomination

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/npqUNDNCDwo?si=burctCr61aKHU_od

[hearty wolf]

I am sitting with cat in garden

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-pride-gif-26074061

[ripe obsidian]

You found cat!

Cowcat

[hearty wolf]

Is eepy

[ripe obsidian]

A fine feline. Resting after causing chaos.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/yin-and-yang-spinning-zen-gif-8691447

[upper sun]

high quality

the black one is a girl and the grey is a guy right?

[strong gulch]

the other way

[marble crater]

Ha, clad you fool

[plucky flax]

The slide....

Fucked it.

[pale prairie]

Ooof too smooth for your own good

[upper sun]

make ur char longer

[plucky flax]

Longer to slide less?

[upper sun]

to throw easier

[quartz barn]

just blame the ogryn for being unable to catch

[ripe obsidian]

If you were more like Karien or UnsanctionedPsyker, you wouldn't have made that mistake.

[marble crater]

And this is why I just walk up the stairs and don't throw shit in pubs

[strong gulch]

Sut doesn't throw in pubs.

[marble crater]

Correct, when we lose it's the other's fault

They didn't protect me while I was damaging the entire map with smite

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-hurt-me-im-too-weak-weak-please-gif-15366451

[quartz barn]

didnt protect me

smite

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-eww-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-1851111844763070866

[pale prairie]

Why didn’t you just dodge all the things and stagger the flamers and trappers with vent?

SMH

[strong gulch]

Fun fact. When I read Jormun, for some reason my brain rips out thr rm and shoehorns a t. So I always read Jotun. Krieger Giant

[pale prairie]

Haha krieger is my psyker and Jormun is my Ogryn. I ripped the name from my dnd barbarian (Jormungandr)

But if I could move the slider to be Jotun height you better damn believe I would

I am already height maxing for psyker for the weakspot hits and seeing over the crowd

[strong gulch]

Imagine being able to see over a crowd when you can just jump and not be able to dodge the overhead midair.

[pale prairie]

Not all of us are gifted with the sniper ducking instincts

[junior gust]

I used to get constantly frustrated with this class until now. I read a guide that said to use the staff and shards at low peril and the melee weapon at high peril and now I'm surviving a lot longer before being downed. I still have a long way to go tho

[pale prairie]

A lot of it is practice too. You learn to really pay attention to sound cues and exactly when to press dodge. In addition to figuring out weapon combos and what works best for you. It’s really a class that wants time and practice

[marble crater]

Because I play smite with shield, full support. Turn off melee and ranged enemies

[strong gulch]

Learning to edge peril takes time and is little different between the weapons.

[pale prairie]

Turn off game?

[junior gust]

Yeah, I'm constantly watching out for the poxbursters, dogs, trappers and flamers specifically

[junior gust]

Yeah, at least I no longer feel like dead weight 🤣

[pale prairie]

But that’s what makes it fun especially for ADHD people

[junior gust]

Yeah, definitely fun hearing those pinging sounds, those clicking sounds, thos barks, yeah... fun

[thorn cedar]

Anyone playing H40 is either on or off their ritalin, no exceptions.

[pale prairie]

Less that and more getting in the “flow” and experience and muscle memory helping you reach for the right tool at the right time and reacting or anticipating the solution to a problem before it even presents. It’s like learning the attack patterns of an elden ring boss

[pale prairie]

Pfffff adderall is for university kids

[strong gulch]

I truly think that if DD get marked targets like EO, they will be easier to manage for people with ADHD because it won't be just the 1 shiny stack man that tunnel visions you.

Like obviously but ... THE STACK MAN

[pale prairie]

Not familiar with EO but does it light up multiple targets at once?

[strong gulch]

yes

Instead of a single lit candle in a dark house

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-the-simpsons-whatever-i-dont-care-gif-5239711

[pale prairie]

Yeah and buff voidstrike please lmao

[strong gulch]

being able to keep 25 stacks for even the casual player would probably help.

[thorn cedar]

Idk it really isn't that difficult anymore

[strong gulch]

for the likes of you yeah

[thorn cedar]

But all of the mechanics aren't explained in the tooltip

Nah like genuinely.

[strong gulch]

they really aren't

a DT constant

[thorn cedar]

You get a stack refresh just for damaging an enemy before a teammate kills them, all monsters also keep stacks topped up

5 seconds instead of 4 now too

"Precision stacks can be refreshed during active duration by damaging a marked enemy, by pushing a marked enemy, and by DoT ticks on a marked enemy; also by the same actions against monstosities and Captains/Twins."

[pale prairie]

I do like the idea of getting multiple marked instead of just the one. It’s super fun to do DD but with so many classes now that just like to chunk into melee hordes feels like I have to focus on elites

[pale prairie]

Huh didn’t know about the push or dots or that it worked on twins/captains/monstrosity. the funny thing is there’s barely any units that can be marked in the Twins fight. The occasional elites get deleted pretty quick in my games

Ogryn rumbler goes brrrrr

Arbites shotgun etc

[thorn cedar]

Yea that was a very good change because best practice against monstros is to back up to avoid new spawn triggers from going off but that means no DD targets so you'd lose most or all of them by the end of the fight

And most airlocks and elevator sequences have also been sped up

[visual phoenix]

@plucky flax u

[pale prairie]

Hahaha Psykers fucking pacing in the elevator looking for more VICTIMS

[thorn cedar]

You should never be below 15 stacks if you're making any effort at all

Hot take I guess but I absolutely do not want DD to function like EO, beyond maybe marking two targets at a time.

If you're facing six bruisers and don't walk away from that small encounter with 18 stacks you're doing it wrong.

[pale prairie]

Out of curiosity what weapon are you using for this?

I agree that I want it to be like 2 or 3 targets at a time just to give choice

[thorn cedar]

Almost any weapon works.

But my OG is Deimos + Laspee + Assail

I'd say the only weapon that fullstop doesn't work well with DD is Voidstrike.

Charge time + flight time + finnicky ass headshot hitbox makes pulling bluemans a pain.

[pale prairie]

Lmao sorry guys need my stacks

[thorn cedar]

Mash left click or h1 + l2 repeat

[pale prairie]

It’s funny cause for the longest time I was DD voidstrike this was before the nerfs

But yeah if you have a fucking laspistol no excuse not to have max stacks all the time

[thorn cedar]

You can do it, I did for a while. But then I went full Gunker and the difference in effort was quite palpable.

[pale prairie]

It was beautiful

[mental rock]

I miss true aim voidstrike

[pale prairie]

Yeah I put up good numbers but moved to a EK build with just all in machine gun LMB until they took quell cancel

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

[thorn cedar]

Aw man took a walk to my local Cafe but they're fucken cloooosed.

And now I'm stuck by this train

Curse this universe.

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1398707424759910410/Desktop_2025.07.26_-_17.43.11.07.mp4?ex=68977acc&is=6896294c&hm=55f61a9bd616d902836cc237026ac0ba0f32469e59b14a7fd549969acbfd0138&

[thorn cedar]

And now the clouds broke and the sun is melting me.

Tell my family I died miserable and uncaffeinated

[marble crater]

Worse fate than being a servitor

[pale prairie]

Because @plucky flax’s dad is fatshart ceo and he wanted purgatus to be OP

Why do you think he has so many hours in Darktide?

https://tenor.com/view/king-shark-gif-22308534

[plucky flax]

Thank me later.

[pale prairie]

Never

[marble crater]

No, there are still no new arby cosmetics, what is your dad even doing?

[pale prairie]

5 year vacation

[delicate hull]

tankiest psycher i had ever seen i only lasted 0.2 second then i instantly die due to the desert wind

[plucky flax]

Pls no flame me bad

[verbal thistle]

dont you love when people drag overheads into you

[plucky flax]

It was my lack of skills. 😄

[pale prairie]

Still so funny

[plucky flax]

It's my meme video now.

(Psyker is the tankiest class)

[delicate hull]

1k damge taken every match

[pale prairie]

So crushers can do so much damage you just outright die? Cause this has happened to me too on high havoc

[plucky flax]

It's a havoc thing.

Because they deal corruption damage.

[strong gulch]

You take so much corruption damage in high havoc from an overhead that you don't even get downed. It's just insta dead.

Used to be how people would get true survivor more easily.

But there was a patch that included those deaths. lmao

[thorn cedar]

Yea you can stat your curios so that a Mauler overhead doesn't instantly kill you but Crusher overheads are not survivable without gold toughness for Psykers

[crystal walrus]

I mean they'd die if someone shat on a spork and lobbed it at em so not surprising

Unless you build them to tank they unfortunately do not take a lot to go down

Which is probably why smyker is seen a lot on heresy and below

[visual phoenix]

was ot messecary?

[fluid knot]

Should function like the Arby highlights ngl

[prime elk]

DD does not need buffs lol

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker is the weakest class. Reddit and YouTube tell me so. Buff pls.

[prime elk]

start with assail and SG buffs

assail sucks

SG is too hard to play

[pale prairie]

Assail does not need buffs lol

[strong gulch]

Trauma is so weak. Please buff

[prime elk]

gunker suffers 😭

[strong gulch]

Never noticed these orange pants.

[prime elk]

staffkers get op blitzes like brain burst

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-smallest-violin-gif-4999701

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sad-pepe-frog-sad-pepe-frog-violin-pepe-sad-violin-pepe-funny-sad-gif-18114472636898332601

[strong gulch]

Here's another assail buff because people mostly use BB in havocs.

[pale prairie]

Nah a big smite buff. Now the uptime is infinite

[ripe obsidian]

Assail now does extra damage to carapace on headshots. Gets in through the eye slit and bounces around inside the armor

[strong gulch]

I'm basically quoting havoc 2.0 patch notes. 😭

[pale prairie]

Stop bringing real physics of crystal shards thrown at helmet gaps

[strong gulch]

It can now stagger bulwarks... again.

[pale prairie]

[strong gulch]

Assail staggering them was funny.

[pale prairie]

That moment when Fatshark tells you how to play the game

[pale prairie]

Like bees

[strong gulch]

ye

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is no longer crystal shards, but bees from the warp. They target soft spots.

[pale prairie]

Little tiny bees with pink skin and helmets

[glacial vapor]

This sounds... Ominous

[strong gulch]

I have recordings set up to not record anyone's mic. Unfortunate because I said, "Don't worry, I'm farming a clutch." as I ran away.

Punished for doing everything wrong. lmao

[pale prairie]

I love Darktide clips. You can feel the emotions of the player

For instance this was panic

Crazy unlucky about the trapper

[glacial vapor]

A series of unfortunate events

[strong gulch]

then I greeded the heals

lol

[pale prairie]

I can’t even tell where the veteran is in all that mess

[strong gulch]

The whole run was WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT

I got 33 barrels that mission

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-starscream-cant-you-see-were-invincible-invincible-were-invincible-gif-7548900908140352736

[pale prairie]

Didn’t know that many spawns on a map

Also just LOVE LOVE muties running into fire with me. That’s just so cool such a great mechanic

[strong gulch]

Ever few minutes was someone going OOOH!!! or AHHHHHH!

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/mina-anime-shock-shocked-funny-gif-8604358096869377193

[strong gulch]

almost got em

[pale prairie]

Revenge achieved

They knew where the circle was

https://tenor.com/view/ivan-drago-rocky-mad-boxing-gif-12740361343431073274

There really should be a “friendly fire” stat just for funny giggles

[strong gulch]

lmao yay

Side note. I wish health bars had an option to turn it off for live missions. I forgot to turn them off after doing some testing.

[fluid knot]

Assail is a .22 round, confirmed

Just brainwave propelled

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

Shit the tailslam?

[upper sun]

bro trying to block fall damage

[strong gulch]

I belly laughed.

[pale prairie]

Damn he took the medicae with him

[marble crater]

I picked it back up afterwards

[strong gulch]

Have a bomb for your trouble

[pale prairie]

It didn’t even trigger the grab the railing

So fall damage is like crusher damage. Probably programmed the same

[marble crater]

Think it only does if there is no playable area below the railing?

[pale prairie]

Probably exactly how it happens

It was such a gentle nudge you barely notice until the ground

[upper sun]

railling grab isnt triggered by fall length

some are hanging edges and some are non hanging edges

[marble crater]

I blame clad for this, he told me to increase my FOV, so I thought I was far enough away, when I wasn't

[pale prairie]

That’s sad

[pale prairie]

I mean if you could turn like a pc player….

[upper sun]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/uneeded-hanging-ledge/111383/2

[pale prairie]

You’d have known

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Imagine having a brain that can handle FOV changes

[pale prairie]

I can only handle like 90-100 any more than that and my eyes don’t like

https://tenor.com/view/forward-pass-nrl-one-eyed-gif-13887139

[strong gulch]

I'd rather watch horrible disgusting sausages be made than play even half of minute of high FOV.

I know it helps with situational awareness, but I fecking can't

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[pale prairie]

What do you qualify as high fov?

[pale prairie]

It’s a positive. Makes the game more “exciting”

[strong gulch]

High is like fish eye.

[pale prairie]

🤮

[strong gulch]

I've seen mods take it even farther. I can't watch vids with that.

[pale prairie]

How do people play like that. It screws up my hit prediction

[strong gulch]

They know their arms are 5m long.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-resist-it-you-have-to-you-want-it-cant-say-no-david-berkowitz-gif-15152565

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-stronger-smarter-better-gif-27330950

[pale prairie]

I can see in a 360 so that means my crosshair is on the ceiling

[strong gulch]

big brain

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/tasting-milk-antony-starr-the-homelander-the-boys-lick-gif-17834498

[strong gulch]

can see everything

[pale prairie]

Oh yeah you’re better alright

[strong gulch]

like crab

[jovial juniper]

[pale prairie]

Nah let’s go full fly vision. 30 monitors all with the same viewpoint with maximum FOV

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/elizabeth-wcth-sources-hearties-gif-11271151

[upper sun]

🚬 very pro moves just to die 😭

[pale prairie]

That was fucking cool

[plucky flax]

How did you die?

Once you got out of the corner it was easy.

[pale prairie]

Poxwalker

[upper sun]

left keystone doesnt have twbs

i got staggered by something and ate an overhead

[plucky flax]

Skissue

[pale prairie]

can't even use both words

[upper sun]

im doing a penance build no bulli 😭

[fluid knot]

Parkourtide

[plucky flax]

Fair enough it's justisfied.

[pale prairie]

He’s jealous cause when he did a cool slide he fell off

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

I can fall off without sliding

[strong gulch]

door

[plucky flax]

Pro

[tulip kettle]

😂 meanwhile voice chat

[strong gulch]

Yes

[tulip kettle]

WAIT THATS A DOOR YOU CAN ACTIVATE?!?!

apologies for the absence, real life sometimes intrudes

we gaming?

[strong gulch]

no worries life
cough
find a way

I'm down
idk if Sin is alive

@hearty wolf u awake?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-running-why-are-you-running-away-pretty-liars1-nollywood-gif-16102856

[tulip kettle]

@hearty wolf is weekend no excuse

[hearty wolf]

Am awake but busy atm

[strong gulch]

Aiming up or doing the flick would have solved this, but no. I was too locked into putting the circle on the floor.

[ripe obsidian]

Few things are so nice as a cat crawling underneath a blanket next to you. It is very cozy.

[marble crater]

I have never seen that elevator door close again after opening, witchcraft

[strong gulch]

we were so confused

our worlds were shattered lmao

[marble crater]

Heretics have figured out doors, what's next

[pale prairie]

Getting real tired of this event

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/why-why-guy-toys-r-us-gif-27035562

[proper osprey]

I like it

[pale prairie]

just a lot of work though

[plucky flax]

The rot?

Play arby for ez steam roll

Sadly fgs special is nerfed because of their stinky armour

[candid temple]

ds4 and stab them in the head also works if you must melee

[plucky flax]

I haven't played ds4 in so long

[ripe obsidian]

How did you escape?

[jovial juniper]

How the hell did they manage give a paid dlc a worse smite

💀

[strong gulch]

I still have no idea. Like maybe it's a real door.

lmao
net spawning outside trapper gun

Love how I have SB and the mutant doesn't.

[pale prairie]

yeah I don't have the DLC T.T but as soon as you said that the Arbie went down lmao

[shut pier]

This the guy that made the vodka sausage?

[pale prairie]

Your the grenade he is throwing yes?

[strong gulch]

Pretty sure yeah. lmao

[strong gulch]

I COULD HAVE BEEN

[pale prairie]

The funnier thing is 3 of you being grabbed at the same time

I mean land and just do Trauma at your feet

Did a duo Maelstrom yesterday and the absolute train of 10 Muties on repeat.... I only have 4 dodges

Its kind of funny when the cluster like one big conga line though

[cloud raven]

do yall like psyker rn?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Top 2 class

[ripe obsidian]

Generally, yes. People who dislike Psyker are often run out of this channel with torches and pitchforks.

[jovial juniper]

With the top 1 overly long maniacal laugh

[tulip kettle]

fun? number 1. power? top 5 🙂

[strong gulch]

Yes. I will say tho that psyker scales with density and DoT are not front loaded so it can feel a little bad sometimes on lower diff.

[upper sun]

🚬

@jovial juniper we got stealth and chorus

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry

[upper sun]

IM KILLIN THE VET

[jovial juniper]

I'll shoot everything

[upper sun]

IM KILLIN

THE VET

DUO TIME

[ripe obsidian]

I think Psyker is 2nd or 3rd for overall power. 1st for fun. 1st or 2nd for team utility/teamwork capability.

4th or 5th for solo clutch capability.

It was between Psyker and Vet for last place

Arby is #1, mostly because the dog can save you from anything other than a trapper

Rather, the dog is what edges Arbiter over Ogryn

Yeah, it's not even spacing.

I'm tempted to put Arby over Psyker for raw power. They don't do quite as much damage as a Psyker, sure, but they have so much tankiness and CC that gives them an advantage.

[pale prairie]

So this is on the subreddit as an OP build @ripe obsidian @gray juniper @strong gulch thoughts?

How to play:

To use this incredibly powerfull and sturdy build you have to fullfill two roles:

Controlling the the biggest masses of enemies. And:
Keeping Bosses busy with you so that the rest of the team can melt them unbothered.

To controll the masses you need to: Use the primary attack ONLY until Empyric Shock has roughly maxed its stacks.
Then you use the secondary attack to add damage and brittleness and to get your peril up.
Once the peril gets boiling you shriek to add even more soulblaze stacks.
Crits will keep you toughness and damage up.
Every 15 seconds a Brain Rupture will hit a random Specialit/Elite/Monstrosity. It will synergyze with Empyric Shock, Perfect Timing, brittleness and Empored Psyonics dealing random but massive damage. Oh and it will not consume the Empored Psyonics charge.
Dying enemies will spread the soulblaze and thus the range of the Brain Rupture.

To distract Crushers, Ogryns, Beasts of Nurgle or hordes of Ragers completely on your own.... whip out your Devil Claw and spam the alternate parry. Try to look up to the heads of monstrosities to do more parry damage. If your peril starts to boil Shriek to add more damage and reset your parry time. Do not attack! Just use the alternate parry as it always counts as perfect parry and does quite some damage to the attacker. Thats why we need Kinetic Deflection.

You are most vulnarable to everything that shoots. You can use the brain rupture in some cases but you will be occupied most of the time with sprint-sliding-quelling or sprint-sliding-secondary charging.

I tested the build for hours and it’s SUPER FUN and direly needed fresh air!

[hard widget]

What build is empyric resolve good in

[pale prairie]

The quell cancel one

[hard widget]

What's a quell cancel

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[ripe obsidian]

"Sturdy"

Press X to Doubt.

EMPYRIC SHOCK IS A DEBUFF TO ENEMIES NOT A BUFF TO THE PLAYER. YOU DO NOT MAX STACKS ON YOURSELF. AHHHHHHH

[pale prairie]

It’s an old tech that they patched out. Basically you can tap quell button right after firing you LmB to cut short the animation and fire again allowing you to chain gun the LMBs. This was amazing on EK staff allowing you to rapidly crit and kill hordes then with empiric shock you could tag monstrosities or carapace/bulwarks with it and then RMB for usually a 2 cast kill time all extremely fast

[pale prairie]

But it has DeViL’s ClAw

[ripe obsidian]

It's a bad build.

[hard widget]

So what's empyric resolve good for now

[pale prairie]

One thing I was curious about he seemed to think the EP charges will affect the KF procs of BB

[ripe obsidian]

Taking the 3 point Souldrinker tax instead of getting subnodes of the keystone.

EP does affect KF, unless that changed

[hard widget]

The only time I've used it is on smite, dunno if I'm missing out on it elsewhere

[ripe obsidian]

But it's not a great reason to pick EP.

[pale prairie]

Good to know I hadn’t thought of that

[ripe obsidian]

EP is a good keystone, and it works well with BB if you're using BB actively.

But picking it solely to buff KF is dumb.

[pale prairie]

Yeah someone already pointed out to him that this sacrifices left or right keystones so it’s a meh build

[ripe obsidian]

It also has a crucial misunderstanding of Empyric Shock.

Like, if they're having fun, fine.

But I hate when people get something wrong then dig in their heels

[pale prairie]

Okay cause I was wondering about the whole empiric shock somehow affecting the soul blaze stacks and stuff I dunno

[tulip kettle]

yeah i tested this the eother day and from what i understand, empyric shock does indeed work on inferno now, but ultimately its just on the ranged dmg from the lmb attack which is pretty negligible. so overall a complete waste of time on inferno and pretty bad on EK due to by the time the buff is in effect you have already hit the enemy with 3-4 lmb attacks and its olikely dead anyway

[kindred fog]

I’m starting a Brain Burst build (mostly for penances) and I need some tips since until now I’ve only ever used Smite and Assail

Which ability and Keystone would be best? I was gonna assume Empowered Psionics for the Keystone. Also what essential perks are there

[pale prairie]

It doesn’t affect the RMB pump?

[tulip kettle]

no

[tulip kettle]

for penances just run warp siphon with kinetic flayer mainly

for MM you need kinetic resolve, shield walls and a private game

[pale prairie]

Very interesting so does soulblaze stacks not count as warp damage?

[tulip kettle]

oh, yes it does

[proper osprey]

Meme build

[tulip kettle]

but because of how inferno LMB works and soulblaze works it does almost nothing

[pale prairie]

Yeah there is no tac axe

[proper osprey]

Surge lmb

[pale prairie]

Right cause it’s boosting the flat damage which is tiny?

[tulip kettle]

EK and VB build benefit from it

[tulip kettle]

yes and also

[proper osprey]

Infernos flat damage isn’t too terrible

It’s not like flamer

[tulip kettle]

the lmb on inferno is actually very unforgiving

[pale prairie]

But for the point tax of “faster weapon swap speed”

[tulip kettle]

and then yes you are also paying a point tax

and finally

if you have had time to puff at an enemy 5 times with lmb

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, the damage you lose by focusing on LMB is significant. ES does affect soulblaze, but you're stacking it so slowly with LMB.

[tulip kettle]

and also stack stacks to high (15) with rmb to make it matter

its either dead, or an ADM that soulblaze doesnt really do anything vs

[proper osprey]

I had a dude complain to me that node is needed and meta because psyker is very underpowered and the swap speed is too slow

[ripe obsidian]

Empyric Shock was good with quell cancel. It's not great anymore. I wouldn't take it on any build.

[tulip kettle]

i think the only build i would consider it is an EK lmb build

but those are obviously significantly nerfed

[proper osprey]

It’s still fun to run

[ripe obsidian]

The time spent LMBing is time better spent doing something else. Unless it's an EK LMB crit+surge build, I suppose.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-wtf-gif-25758871

[proper osprey]

I just didn’t say anything

[ripe obsidian]

"Objectively speaking, Psyker's current weapon arsenal does not include a single weapon for which this talent would provide a significant wield time reduction. Autoguns and Lasguns have the 'longest' wield times with 0.65s when switching to them and starting to fire from hip (left-clicks). The talent, at 100% peril, would reduce these times to 0.43s. For all other weapons, the time reductions are even less significant."

[proper osprey]

He was being 100% serious btw

[tulip kettle]

yup the only builds where it feels even remotely worthwhile is FGS + recon builds, and with those build youre liekly to have it anyway

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz has an EP+BB build that is quite good.

[cloud raven]

in havok how are yall staying alive without bubble?

shooters melting me

[pale prairie]

Smart move, a friend of mine told me that arguing with a stubborn and willfully ignorant person is like playing chess with a pigeon, at the end of the day no matter what you do they will knock all the pieces over, crap on the board, and claim they won the argument.

[ripe obsidian]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f21da34-9e4e-4207-9a96-e666f9f3d329/psyker-havoc-2

[tulip kettle]

quietitude + empathic evasion + dont get hit + L + Skill issue + ratio

[ripe obsidian]

Mostly avoiding being in open spaces, abusing EE, using Shriek to knock them over, and Deflector to block shots.

[pliant ether]

hello

[proper osprey]

I have like uh 114 days played I believe that’s 1500 hours or something, the dude had 600 and was telling me how to play and what to use

[ripe obsidian]

I've stopped taking Quietude in Havoc, at least for now. The toughness gain is so smol.

[proper osprey]

[cloud raven]

ah i need to use EE

[tulip kettle]

ee is almost mandatory for most high havoc builds

i would say it IS mandatory for no bubble builds

[ripe obsidian]

On Inferno and EK. Not sure how I feel about it on VB

The uptime is very low

Like 10% or lower

Inferno, it's like 20-25%

[tulip kettle]

true, i dont run it on inferno but i do run on VB + shriek builds

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-cute-kitten-cat-gif-1551085488010571412

[tulip kettle]

i think with shriek quietitude is still worth, on vb its likely to be worth because of how often and how much you are quelling, but otherwise not worth it at all

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle @strong gulch ETA 35m

[proper osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1402189679889092618/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_8_5_2025_2_16_24_AM.png?ex=68979fa7&is=68964e27&hm=a982974df58a4294e15933780cba361c89e385d440f936a82dec434d6c271c8d& I just did this build it’s very op please use it

[ripe obsidian]

I think Shriek gives back like 20 toughness on my build with quietude. I need to check again.

[tulip kettle]

yeah sounds about right

[proper osprey]

Scoreboard for ref

[tulip kettle]

20 toughness when a few scattered shooters are shooting at you and you shriek at them can be the diff between living and dying

and on VB you will be quelling 10-15 toughness every second or so so its a petty good source of constant but small toughness gen

[ripe obsidian]

I might have Quietude on my VB build. Not sure

I don't on bubble or shriek Inferno

But I also don't use EE on Voidblast.

[pliant ether]

im trying to put together a good inferno + vs build and would it be ok to run it by you guys rq

[tulip kettle]

even blazing?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. The uptime mod has shown me the light.

[tulip kettle]

i tend to have an avg 37.5% crit chance on blazing VB and at that point it seems ok

[pliant ether]

im smashing my lego bricks together rn

[ripe obsidian]

EE on Blazing Voidblast had like a 10% uptime at best, at least for me

[pliant ether]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f96b1bb-f231-4c25-ac4b-628c4b1488d2/venting-shriek-infernus?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[tulip kettle]

oh for sure the uptime doesnt seem great

[pliant ether]

uh

ok

[tulip kettle]

but the uptime is pretty much only when i am spamming lmb's at gunner groups

and thats when i need it

idc if its down the rest of the time

[hard widget]

Does empyric resolve slow down peril build when in sg

[ripe obsidian]

Is a fine build. I personally swap Quietude for Wildfire, but it is preference.

[tulip kettle]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

That is fair. I don't LMB very often on Voidblast

[hard widget]

So it should be pretty easy to finish the sg penance with that and the one that slows down peril build on kills

[pliant ether]

yippee

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, the dump stat for blaze swords is warp resist, not mobility

[pliant ether]

oh is it

[tulip kettle]

its been so long, what exactly is the penance? if its get kills during SG, just take BCOB and tranquility through slaughter and run a recon las gunker build

[pliant ether]

I see

[hard widget]

Yeah it's get 50 kills in one use of sg

[pliant ether]

Oh yeah no it would be better with more mobility and less warp resist

[tulip kettle]

yeah sounds like just use by crack of bone and tranuility through slaughter and go ham on a horde with FGS

then quell if needed

[proper osprey]

Or tac axe

[ripe obsidian]

I also prefer Warp Nexus to Penetrating Flame, since crits pop EE, Mettle, Perfect Timing, and apply 2x soulblaze stacks

[ripe obsidian]

I am usually similar. It's just that RMB is slow, so it's down a lot.

What's the charge time for a full RMB? 1.6 seconds?

• a tick or two of quell

[tulip kettle]

yeah just over 1.2 secs for 80% charge

[pliant ether]

i see i see

ty

for your help

[tulip kettle]

the exact same tree as i run except for inferno i take warp battery over quietitude with shriek but its a pref thing

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, let's say that including quell time it's an average of 2 seconds per RMB? 30 casts in a minute. So like 12 seconds of EE per minute, 20%, which is better than I get in practice

[tulip kettle]

yeah its almost useless when using rmb casts

[ripe obsidian]

I'd need to use LMB more than I do

[tulip kettle]

its just for those moments when i get caught with pants down and need to lmb spam gunner/reaper groups and pray for EE proc

[ripe obsidian]

Fair. EE is very good

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmmmmmm this feels not really like you used the build

Also respect for the solo rotten armor run

[ripe obsidian]

It just hasn't felt good for me with my VB playstyle, I suppose

[pale prairie]

I am always happy to make people laugh!

Look at me with me Vent Shriek and EK build!

I mean the game is not exactly drowning us with explanations. We have to look at the goddamn code sometimes

[ripe obsidian]

My workday is over but I cannot get up, for I am covered in cat

[pale prairie]

Shout out to Six

[pale prairie]

You can move if you are soulless person

Yeaaaaa I hate being wrong so I try to be careful when I make broad statements

[tulip kettle]

or, just make broad statements so when you are wrong about some edge case you can just say "its a generalisation that dosnt apply to every scenario"

also being wrong is one of the best ways to learn

[ripe obsidian]

When people are wrong, I throw source code at them. >:(

[tulip kettle]

it works

i can attest to this

[strong gulch]

I see. Well that's explains the sudden increase in ES purg / inferno

[tulip kettle]

safe from improving

[pale prairie]

Even better way to learn is by asking questions.

[tulip kettle]

its fine if you are a person who can accept being wrong and learn from it

[pliant ether]

atp i just need to like

get better at the game

[pale prairie]

Practice

[strong gulch]

It's not my fault.
https://youtu.be/xUcSDzKlZRY

[pale prairie]

Also a bunch of these dorks just moved over from another in my opinion harder game VT2

[pliant ether]

no i would rather be elitist with no personal growth

easier to complain

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/you'll-fit-right-in-chava-den-of-thieves-2-pantera-you'll-feel-right-at-home-lionsgate-gif-2979395932893912719

[pale prairie]

Breaks my heart anew everytime

Lmao “amazing skill and courage”

[hearty wolf]

Not since the power creep

Not at all

[ripe obsidian]

VT2 is definitely harder than Darktide.

[hearty wolf]

Have you played it in like the last 6 months with SOT and what not?

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't played it in a couple years. But I did see SotT before the nerf

[hearty wolf]

Me and Beans were running cata's after fresh installing after ages

And just face rolled everything

[ripe obsidian]

Cataclysm isn't the hard difficulty

[hearty wolf]

There's no density at all and elites crumble

[ripe obsidian]

Onslaught or whatever is

[hearty wolf]

FoW?

Chaos wastes?

Weaves?

[ripe obsidian]

No, modded difficulties

[hearty wolf]

O

Well I mean

You have to mod in difficulty

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/136w614/gameplay_guide_the_basics_of_modded_difficulties/

I assume this is accurate

I didn't read through it, just grabbed it off google

[strong gulch]

I don't think modding a difficulty in counts.

[hearty wolf]

The lack of ranged enemies also makes the game a joke

[strong gulch]

Like if modded DT had havoc 1000, that wouldn't counts imo.

[ripe obsidian]

I think it does when the developers support and endorse the modded difficulties

[hearty wolf]

You don't get randomly obliterated by 1 ordinary mob

Let us attempt this modded Vermintide difficulty at some point

I just dislike the class restrictions

[strong gulch]

Unless you're plugged into modded content, you wouldn't even know Onslaught exists.

Endorsed by the devs or not.

[hearty wolf]

I didn't :(

[ripe obsidian]

Beastmen Archers

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045850233122332672

[strong gulch]

kk

[hearty wolf]

Can block them

[ripe obsidian]

Not without a shield afaik

[hearty wolf]

Also only one faction

no

you can

[ripe obsidian]

Fascinating

[hard widget]

Nice, finished the sg penance

[hearty wolf]

ok

where is everyone

[hard widget]

All that's left is warp battery

[hearty wolf]

come come

[ripe obsidian]

I am lying in my bed currently. My cats left so I went and flopped.

[strong gulch]

be there shortly

bathroom then bev

no I'm not gonna drink my pee

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian you too?

[pale prairie]

The rats have the rattling gunners and orb throwers

[ripe obsidian]

Do one without me

I will struggle to my feet eventually

[strong gulch]

So close

[pale prairie]

its a trash weapon so don't worry about it

[strong gulch]

desperate for any 76

[pale prairie]

hahahahaha

[strong gulch]

yo

+1 stam is incredible

grey melk shop is funny

[frigid charm]

Does anyone have any good zappy or brain blast builds?

[strong gulch]

3rd pin for both

[frigid charm]

<3

[strong gulch]

zappy is EK

BB is under inferno

[frigid charm]

thanks!

[raven mountain]

Wait, did they buff SoT again in a recent patch? She was good, but didn't think she was insane rn.

[frigid charm]

Question, is there a specific melee i should use with that BB build?

[strong gulch]

whatever single target you want

[frigid charm]

kk, thanks!

<3

[raven mountain]

Generally, you'd take any weapon you're comfortable with. Ideally, it's one that is mobile so you can dance around as needed, and having it be able to kill armor faster than your fire staff is a plus as well.

[strong gulch]

DS, knife, geimos, obscurus, etc

even FGS

that one has less mobility, is slower to hit, and has the most overlap with inferno but is good enough at armor that it's fine

not as optimized but is fine

[full haven]

Anyone got a good build with lots of shield at all? Mine is so bleeding low

[strong gulch]

idk what you mean

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1162145458114801725

[raven mountain]

If you're talking about toughness, you tend to get a lot of that from killing enemies with warp abilities or building/quelling peril.

If you're talking about bubble shields, then get warp charges as your keystone and go smite or brain burst so you can take Psykinetic's Aura for added cdr.

[ripe obsidian]

I am risen

[raven mountain]

And you can always take a force sword with Deflector and take the talent tree node Kinetic Deflection so you can simply block anything forever.

[tulip kettle]

block crusher overheads

its definitely safe and fun

[hearty wolf]

i tried

it doesn't wor,

work

fake news

[fluid knot]

Take Catachan Sword an just parry it, smh

[ripe obsidian]

@tulip kettle

    class_name = "interval_buff",
    duration = 2,
    interval = 1,
    max_stacks = 1,
    max_stacks_cap = 1,
    predicted = false,
    refresh_duration_on_stack = true,
    start_func = function (template_data, template_context)
        if not template_context.is_server then
            return
        end

        local unit = template_context.unit
        local health_extension = ScriptUnit.extension(unit, "health_system")
        local max_health = health_extension:max_health()

        template_data.heal_percentage = max_health * NURGLE_PERCENTAGE_DEFAULT
    end,
    interval_func = function (template_data, template_context)
        if not template_context.is_server then
            return
        end

        local unit = template_context.unit
        local health_extension = ScriptUnit.extension(unit, "health_system")

        health_extension:add_heal(1200)
    end,```

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/72cde1c088677d22b3830d9681d015167782b10a/scripts/settings/buff/havoc_buff_templates.lua#L1082C1-L1110C6

[hard widget]

Woohoo finally done all psyker penances

[full haven]

toughness

[hard widget]

What's a good bubble build

[ornate hamlet]

That means you played smite

[hard widget]

Yes

A lot of smite

Do non special attacks with gs count as non warp attacks for malefic momentum

[ornate hamlet]

Yep

The force swords deal normal damage when not powered

[hard widget]

Nice

Also is perilous combustion necessary for melee psyker with assail bubble and warp siphon

[raven mountain]

PC is situationally always useful.

Killing a couple of dogs clears the entire horde around them

[hard widget]

I've got pc but no wildfire

[raven mountain]

Wildfire just makes it better for souldrinker and In Fire Reborn

It's not strictly necessary, but I value it.

Though with Bubble, I almost always prefer BB or Smite so I can take Psykinetic Aura.

[pale panther]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[raven mountain]

Bubble is a long cooldown and powerful skill, so having more ways to lower its cooldown makes it even more powerful

[hard widget]

The problem I'm having is building peril lol

With gs bubble and bb

I don't use bb enough to build peril

[verbal thistle]

Spam special on sword

And tap bb

[pale panther]

parry sword plus block perk that gains peril (jk)

[hard widget]

But I build it pretty fast with assail, bubble and disrupt destiny

But no wildfire in that and no ep for fast cd

[nocturne dust]

No, Wildfire is a lot better than that

but for a melee build, soulblaze stuff isn't super necessary.

If you are going to take soulblaze, perilous combustion is the priority

[raven mountain]

How insane is wildfire when your primary fire damage is coming from PC? Like, I get the faster stacking on inferno and stuff, but without real fire generation, it always felt super weak and more for consistency of triggering stuff.

Not even shriek for fire gen, just scrier's on a melee-focused build.

[wispy bay]

This is for the maul+shield, pretty good attack speed boost.

@hearty wolf

[timber parcel]

Shit psyker tree rework is 🔥🔥

[paper oriole]

Sir, this is psyker chat

[wispy bay]

And?

[paper oriole]

A lot of people hate on arbiters daily, I would be worried for your safety

[wispy bay]

Let them come.

[jovial juniper]

Gross

[paper oriole]

Was it that bad before?

[paper oriole]

Speak of the devil and it shall arrive

[pale prairie]

I think they were referencing the arbiter tree post

[paper oriole]

Makes sense 👌

Something something American coffee is too weak 🫣

I am gonna go with tiredness excuse

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle

[tulip kettle]

OOOF

[hearty wolf]

It's okay

We won on the most unlikely run

[tulip kettle]

despite your assasination attempt

[strong gulch]

It was silly

[hearty wolf]

What do you mean attempt

[tulip kettle]

successful assasination attempt

[hearty wolf]

I was successful wasn't I

yes

[tulip kettle]

XD

[hearty wolf]

xD

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes, it's a node solely reliant on other sources of soulblaze to function. It's not worthwhile when you're only taking PC (especially because you're giving up assail) but it's a node that can be surprisingly valuable under the right conditions, a scrier's melee build not being one.

[nocturne dust]

Aren't you winning Havoc now

[paper oriole]

But did you have fun?

[hearty wolf]

I tortured them

[strong gulch]

Do you remember that auric or mael when you typed, "You did this Sin."?

Basically that happened. lmao

[hearty wolf]

Except