psyker-class

[deft stump]

Is just an arena thing.

[wraith sphinx]

I can't enjoy crpgs anymore

Underrail completely soured me on them with how player-hostile the game is

[pale prairie]

Look not to disagree but….you magical machine gunned him. Yeah it’s rubber bullets but that’s so many

[wraith sphinx]

tried rogue trader when it came out and I just couldn't

I hate the utterly obnoxious ffg 40k ttrpg leveling

[pale prairie]

Ooof sorry to hear that. I mean it’s not alone just go to rpghorrorstories subreddit. Absolute crazy stuff on there

[wraith sphinx]

yeah I can guess lol

[pale prairie]

It does seem like it’s needlessly bloated numbers

[shut pier]

FFG can make really good systems but holy hell its like gluing your desk together every morning just so it doesnt collapse sometimes.

[wraith sphinx]

I've played or planned to play several tabletop rpgs over the years and I've only really enjoyed the fluffier ones

[shut pier]

They have VERY poor wording in many of their books.

If I remember right their 40k books were the worst

[deft stump]

I didn't even get to roll, that was the funni part. DM just asked that.

[pale prairie]

You might like Daggerheart. It’s done by critical role and is meant to be lighter and more narrative. I think it’s a d6 system

[pale prairie]

Sometimes… you gotta move the party forward. Also it’s really fun to give big cinematic moments to players without shit rolling ruining everything

[wraith sphinx]

• Only War, gave me a headache
• Alien RPG, stress mechanic is very wonkily balanced but otherwise peak, especially w colonial marines expansion book
• D&D, didn't really sit with me at all, but also never got to play that one due to DM vanishing on us
• Twilight 2000, similar to Alien RPG, fantastic, sadly never got to play
• Iron Sleet, very light on worldbuilding but a great setting that's essentially a me-shaped hole, played through several sessions recently and I enjoyed it lots

oh and I played a session of CoC but it was a pretty unfun experience, it felt like the DM was playing the game for us and we were just human calculators resolving events and encounters

[deft stump]

Is mostly cos no point. I would have one turned the guy. He couldn't hit my 32 AC either.

[pale prairie]

Yeah CoC can be very fun but as with any game you need a good GM who is there to have fun and collaborate. Not be adversarial or self spotlighting

[wraith sphinx]

h'yup

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/insane-insanity-jim-carey-gif-13068014

Playing CoC. PLEASE DONT GO INSANE

[wraith sphinx]

but all in all ttrpgs are great. Definitely just the sort of thing I'm happy to have experienced yknow

what's cov?

oh

[pale prairie]

Yeah most of my adult friendships are built around the TTRPG players that I run the game for.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/extremely-overpowered-michael-groth-mandjtv-overpowered-overwhelmed-gif-18173271

Guess Karien carries in TTRPGs too

Can’t stop the Karry

[deft stump]

I uh, abused the crafting system the DM had.

[pale prairie]

Pfff what a fool! jK

[deft stump]

The party asked me for recipes.

[ripe obsidian]

Karien's carryin'. It is a constant of the universe.

[deft stump]

I broke the game in 1 session when we decided to do crafting.

[pale prairie]

Wasn’t even any ping to balance her

[deft stump]

Our tank sat on 35 AC.

The Warlock just took my armour. Still did less than my bs.

[pale prairie]

My inner DM is shrieking in horror

[deft stump]

Also less AC.

Not by much, he was at like 28-30 AC.

The rest were minmaxxers themselves so didn't need me to break the game.

The newbie was the only one that didn't do anything from memory.

[pale prairie]

Your DM:

https://youtube.com/shorts/jyCX4asJ2D4?si=3Q5NgDejPrRsWw67

[deft stump]

Was fine, I just asked the DM how much he had and made his gunslinger now basically is a rogue who takes 1/4th damage on a failed roll and has 27 AC.

On top of a few other things.

That fits how he has been playing.

[deft stump]

He never let us craft again ever after.

Like, future campaigns.

[pale prairie]

I should say so

Yeah crafting is something that I think PF2e does better than 5e

[deft stump]

It was custom.

You can merge items in sense.

[pale prairie]

Ooof homebrew from the dm bit him in the ass

[deft stump]

Each item added on doubles the cost on it based on rarity value.

[trail panther]

guys I think I'm washed

[deft stump]

The problem was, my char makes 6 mil gold a year passively min.

Let alone the rest. I'm the farmer.

[pale prairie]

It’s good to shower daily

[deft stump]

So, inf gold works.

[pale prairie]

Ah this is the crazy pocket realm farm on a goddamn arrakis world huh

[deft stump]

Yes.

Desert world.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/jjjj-gif-14150446153159450890

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-paul-atreides-chani-paul-gif-2175166338668198522

That’s arrakis. From Dune

[deft stump]

Ah. But yeah. Still the most memorable campaign. The DM is on blep watch from it lul.

[severe folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlK7ihJLarE

guys what do you think about this build

because i feel like its not performing very smooth, but that could just be me

[pale prairie]

To quote a no lifer in here “everything is viable”

[severe folio]

thats fair but like

what is the shotgun suppose to do in this build

because the video advertise as shotgun but 70% of the time the guy had to run around with his sword

[pale prairie]

Wow

[severe folio]

without lightning speed

lots of bullet was used during the start but

not a lot of thing dead lol

is that just a havok thing or is there something im missing to see here

[glacial vapor]

Is that a shotgun build with Warp charges?

[severe folio]

yeah

actually now that i think about it

most of the shotgun kills are actually just KF proc

[glacial vapor]

I guess it's not getting much value out DD either

[pale prairie]

It’s like a bubble psyker but no DD

[glacial vapor]

Though it would at least buff their melee

[pale prairie]

But if you’re using melee a lot like he said

[severe folio]

im not using the build, its the guy in the vid

im just looking at how it perform from that

[pale prairie]

I know

[ripe obsidian]

That build looks like it's ignoring 70% of useful gunker nodes

[severe folio]

oh

can you tell me what are the useful gunker nodes

[pale prairie]

So that he can get a what 16% damage bonus from warp siphon?

[severe folio]

seems like it

[pale prairie]

Basically right side leading to DD

[severe folio]

ah

[ripe obsidian]

Essentially, yeah. Assail is kinda critical to keep peril high for bonuses

[pale prairie]

But usually gunker wants the scriers gaze to lean into the whole crit chance and popping heads (specifically the DD targets

[severe folio]

oh and heres the kit he was using

from the blessing on his sword it feels like this build is more like

[pale prairie]

Does the warp splitting affect guns?

[severe folio]

defensive toughness regenerating psyker

[pale prairie]

Yeah but he doesn’t grab essence harvest if that’s the idea

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

And melee

[severe folio]

thats true

but he does grab uhh

coherent range increase

lol

[ripe obsidian]

Deflector on bubble FGS makes me sad.

[trail panther]

yeah so many build videos on yt are goofy as hell

[severe folio]

idk how this build suppose to work

[trail panther]

BRO CAN THIS GAME GIVE ME A GOOD CURIO

[severe folio]

it looks like a weak FGS gameplay from the video

[pale prairie]

I guess the FGS is for horde and the gun is for popping elites and heavy targets?

[ripe obsidian]

No.

[severe folio]

uhhh

[trail panther]

I'm gonna kill this stupid robot dude man

[pale prairie]

No

[severe folio]

yeah thats the intended purpose in the video

except like

[trail scroll]

Considering they were out of ammo by the first third of the mission, will say it feels like that build is counter to itself if trying to be a gun-psyker

[severe folio]

he couldnt kill any elite or heavy target consistently

with the shotgun

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, the more I see about this build, the more it seems like self-sabotage

[severe folio]

and when it consistently kill its from KF lol

[pale prairie]

Oooh toughness regen on curio

[severe folio]

yeah

feels like this build focus on toughness regen, rather than anything offensive

[pale prairie]

The funny thing is that this guy has some BLESSINGS that benefit from high peril but the only way to do that is BB or sword special spamming

[ripe obsidian]

There is very little toughness regen in the build besides bubble

And I guess mettle

[severe folio]

was thinking about the aura range

[ripe obsidian]

Aura range is bad

[severe folio]

since bigger aura means staying inside squad range for regen more right ?

[pale prairie]

That’s crit chance

[trail scroll]

Maybe this build of theirs is talored to their static?

[severe folio]

oh

could be

i can see that the entire squad actually never got down once

[pale prairie]

Cause it doesn’t affect coherency right?

[severe folio]

and somehow they all managed to live

[ripe obsidian]

Bear in mind that coherency toughness regen doesn't work well. It turns off if enemies are targeting you in melee

[severe folio]

yeah

[pale prairie]

A good team and solid skills can cover a multitude of sins

[ripe obsidian]

Puppeteer should affect all coherency. Is still bad

[severe folio]

thats what im torning about, is this build tailored for this squad or is this a good team and he is being carried

im leaning more on the side that he is being carried

[pale prairie]

Not saying it’s good. The increased range means easier for enemies to disrupt the coherency right?

[ripe obsidian]

Also, coherency is not just a big circle everyone has to be in. My understanding is that if player A is in coherency with B, and B with C, then A is in coherency with C as well

[severe folio]

so the circle link and extend their range ?

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe? I am not sure about that. I'd have to look into it more

[severe folio]

but yeah either way i feel that this build is kind of dubious

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, it can be a chain of circles, essentially

[severe folio]

thats actually kinda fun

[pale prairie]

You’re a YouTuber but all the good builds have already been covered ad nauseam. Need something new to catch those views even if it’s bad?

[severe folio]

probably

the guy is in here btw

[ripe obsidian]

Bad builds or goofy builds are fine. Misleading people into thinking they're a secret H40-ready OP build is bad.

[wind wind]

Well run teams always make the heart grow fonder

[ripe obsidian]

Like WHOEVER THE FUCK is pushing Empyric Shock on Inferno.

Unless someone is using a macro or cheaty mod to QQ-cancel LMB on Inferno, Empyric Shock is not good.

[severe folio]

empyric shock on inferno ?

[pale prairie]

There was a guy in here yesterday that was talking about taking it on their fire staff

[ripe obsidian]

I swear, like 50% of random Havoc Psykers use it.

[pale prairie]

And that best way to play was LMB never need RMB

[analog agate]

I take it on inferno. Cause I have a hatred for pots

[severe folio]

oh

i have never read empyric shock lol

[ripe obsidian]

LMB is so much less damage than RMB without some sort of cancel

[analog agate]

Ohhh shock

[wind wind]

What does that Shit do again? Empyric shock i mean?

[ripe obsidian]

That's ER

ER is fine

[analog agate]

Nm. I thought you meant ER

[severe folio]

seem kind of redundant

[pale prairie]

Also talked about how high his uptime on souldrinker was

[ripe obsidian]

ES is +warp damage debuff on enemies hit by LMB

[analog agate]

Has to be a gameslantern build from the lmb memery

[severe folio]

make target take more warp damage from primary staff shot

up to 30%

[ripe obsidian]

But ES is a debuff. Not a buff to the player. It has to be applied to each enemy.

[analog agate]

And people don’t understand the mechanics so the pick the outdated build

[ripe obsidian]

So you're wasting time applying LMB ES stacks and losing out on RMB damage

[severe folio]

maybe those who pick ES is also running Run N Gun on their Purgatus

never heard about ppl trying to bump purgatus's primary damage up

[ripe obsidian]

Easy to have high uptime on Souldrinker. It's a fine node. The issue is that it's buggy and doesn't always proc, and that it's a 3-node point tax.

[severe folio]

im pretty sure that thing only has a primary purpose of supression and stagger

[pale prairie]

Looks like to me. This was build with a team in mind. He is literally there to provide bubble and a crit aura. Maybe kill some chaff or tank a monstrosity with the KD and stamina on weapon and deflector blessing. That’s it. Maaaaaaybe after enough reloads his shotgun could rip stuff apart. Not sure how good that thing is into armored targets

[severe folio]

from the vid, i do not recall a single time in which he kill an armored enemy with the shotgun, not even a flak armored enemy

[ripe obsidian]

Back when quell cancel was a thing, LMB spam was quite good. It's not a thing anymore, and I struggle to believe any but a scant few players can QQ cancel properly. I can't.

[severe folio]

the guy who made this video is in this server btw

[pale prairie]

It is a tax but I had heard it doesn’t refresh until it drops. So then it’s just giving you some more crit chance and 1% toughness per second

[ripe obsidian]

They're still a doofus

[trail scroll]

It's what I use it for, locking down and pushing

Then just charge, flame

[severe folio]

yeee same

[ripe obsidian]

Toughness can proc whenever. Crit chance can't proc until it drops

So the toughness regen is actually significant

[severe folio]

i love it when nobody on my team is killing the ranged enemy so i had to charge forth and suppress them before they shred everyone

[opaque tree]

You can pair some ok passive damage with ES, kinetic flayer, and empowered psyionics as it doesn’t consume a charge on flayer, so you get some fat brain burst hits

[ripe obsidian]

But it should be in the first part of the tree, next to Perilous Combustion

[opaque tree]

That’s fun, I don’t know about effective

[trail scroll]

Btw Six, thanks for the music yesterday, liked it a lot!

[pale prairie]

Oh I read that wrong it instantly pops the toughness

[ripe obsidian]

It should be the mirror of Mettle or something

[ripe obsidian]

I am glad.

[severe folio]

maybe when they allow the FGS to have a synergy between blazing spirit and warp slice, then soul drinker may see better utility ?

[opaque tree]

I was doing some havocs yesterday and swapped out warp battery for harvest and having much more success with it

[severe folio]

also, is it fine to spam the FGS special even when theres no charges in it

[ripe obsidian]

If Souldrinker were in a more viable part of the tree, it would be an easy pick. But the 3 point tax makes it rough

[pale prairie]

@ripe obsidian LMB spam build. Says RMB isn’t worth it.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f91dc51-9c19-4ebe-855a-84bf48aba98e/generic-inferno-flayer

[severe folio]

if your build focus on the use of FGS, and if BS have synergy with WS, would Soul Drinker feels worth it ?

[severe folio]

quick question what exactly does Strength do

this and Finesse

[ripe obsidian]

Strength is damage, stagger, cleave

[pale prairie]

Finesse is crit damage and weakspot damage

[severe folio]

ah ok

[ripe obsidian]

Finesse is weakspot and critical damage

[severe folio]

oh finesse doesnt increase attack speed ?

[pale prairie]

No

[severe folio]

i see

[pale prairie]

That would be fucking awesome

[severe folio]

lol

[ripe obsidian]

Finesse scales super hard. Strength scales less hard, but is universal

[hearty wolf]

Strength is strong

[severe folio]

i get the damage and stagger part

[hearty wolf]

CLEAVE

[severe folio]

but with the purgatus having infinite cleave

it feels kind of odd to have blaze away now

[hearty wolf]

MORE INFINITY

[pale prairie]

If finesse gave attack speed Scriers Gaze Psyker would out blender a zealot

[severe folio]

and that is not a bad thing

[opaque tree]

Think strength allows you to hit more breakpoints generally needed for high end

[severe folio]

fuk em hobos

[opaque tree]

In terms of damage cleave stagger etc

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe? I haven't tried Souldrinker with FGS. Blazing Spirit is generally not ideal on melee weapons, because you usually kill the enemy before the fire can do much

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/go-beyond-plus-ultra-all-might-mha-bnha-memes-gif-19247796

[hearty wolf]

I think you forgot duelist exists 😭

[pale prairie]

Shhhhh

It was just a nightmare

Besides Zealots don’t exist cause arbites exists

[severe folio]

i hope to try out arbiter one day

[pale prairie]

Wait for sale and by then they should have fixed the trees such that it doesn’t teach invincibility syndrome

[opaque tree]

Are there any good arguments for not taking wildfire? I see it like 50/50 on builds

And I’ve had instances where it’s cause aggro on a DH its so annoying

[severe folio]

wait

invincibility syndrome ?

[pale prairie]

The people I see don’t take it typically prefer to get Warp Battery

[opaque tree]

I’ve seen builds where they take both and I’m unsure if it’s actually worth the damage or not

[pale prairie]

It’s not that it’s bad but not as good as other things in the tree in their opinion. I still like it but I use EK so I need the extra flame help (and wildfire procs KF from BB)

[pale prairie]

I haven’t seen it that often because of how many other things on tree people want

[severe folio]

wildfire has a specific moment where it is utilized

[pale prairie]

Depending on build arbites can get toughness on breathing

[severe folio]

shii

[radiant frigate]

warp battery is firmly in the realm of whatevermancy

[opaque tree]

I really like it on the 1 psyionks build since you can get very quick BB procs and clear a portion of weaker enemies ahead of you

[radiant frigate]

arbideez

[pale prairie]

Like not literally but it’s like a fusion of Ogryn and zealot toughness gen and damage reduction. In fact some guy (with a team of friends) was able to take a level 1 arbiter through havoc 40 because they have pretty high health and toughness base

[pale prairie]

Yeah yeah you right side tree hugger

[visual phoenix]

8% global warp dmg and 15% cdr is so nothing

[severe folio]

with wildfire, it is possible to transfer max flame stacks to a large group of enemy that aren't going towards your purgatus, or where your staff can't reach. And this is despite the hard limit of 4 stacks it transfer around. But this is only when there is a huge stream of enemy, mixed enemy horde, because thats when you can apply max warpfire to all the enemy around. Otherwise during low time or on the move, it cannot do anything beside tickling people and light up enemy during light off modifier

and ofc this is in the case if you are bring a big big source of warp fire

[pale prairie]

☝️ @opaque tree if you don’t like wildfire there’s your argument for warp battery instead

Especially if you’re going bubble

[severe folio]

otherwise, those who said it soften the enemy up, or it transfer and preserve warpfire around. Depend on the environment you are fighting your team aren't going to let those enemy be around, or that they are not worth killing

[visual phoenix]

Do you still having convo over this choice?

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Battery is spent pretty rapidly.

[pale prairie]

That’s what I say but I think it’s player preference

[pale prairie]

I am not but moogle was reviving it

[severe folio]

plus, wildfire being an innate tool to spread the radius of your general warpfire range, can latch onto units that is qualified to receive a KF and die

[visual phoenix]

🥀

just vent

holy cope

[ripe obsidian]

The question isn't whether or not the bonus is good. It's how consistently you have it up. Ideally you'll be using your ability constantly with Warp Siphon, so you're not always likely to get to 6 stacks

[severe folio]

nah somebody just ask if its worth it to take it

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire is fine. Warp Battery is fine. It's preference

[severe folio]

yeah

[opaque tree]

I’m just curious, I don’t really care what people run but if they have some good ideas why it’s good/bad that I hadn’t thought of it’s decent to know

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Battery has a harder time stacking without Wildfire

[visual phoenix]

its always worth to take over defencive stuff if you can make it work

But there is no shot im picking wf over battery

[severe folio]

what important is knowing exactly how something work

[pale prairie]

Something brought up earlier (which I personally haven’t experienced) is dying/killing teammates by KF wildfire combo exploding bursters

[severe folio]

and see if your build need that specific tool

[opaque tree]

It is quite annoying to pull DH with wildfire, any advice for avoiding other than don’t go nuts near one?

[severe folio]

i can see that this could happen ues

luckily so far i have not seen that happen yet

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire cannot spread to a DH

[severe folio]

nor have i seen it trigger DH

[ripe obsidian]

It does not target DHs

[severe folio]

oh nice

[pale prairie]

That’s my own ethos for not taking warp battery. But I am noob

[ripe obsidian]

There's a line in the code like "if not sleeping_witch"

[pale prairie]

Now creeping flames on the other hand

[severe folio]

they name DH sleeping_witch..?

[opaque tree]

Oh, that’s weird, maybe I’ve pulled it with a stray lmb or something

[severe folio]

is that a from Left 4 Death or vermintide

[ripe obsidian]

Creeping Flames will trigger the DH. Perilous Combustion might

[opaque tree]

But that’s good to know wildfire can’t pull it

[pale prairie]

I have done this

[glacial vapor]

Pretty sure I've done it with PC

[pale prairie]

Big oof

[ripe obsidian]

L4D. Fire damage is also called "burninating"

[pale prairie]

That moment where you go “it should be far enough right?”

[pale prairie]

What else would you call it?

[glacial vapor]

Their trigger area is bigger than you expect if you ever watch someone with mods. So that could be it too

[opaque tree]

Ah, yeah I do run shriek on one build it could be this too

Hadn’t thought about it

[severe folio]

also, regarding this, vent can def plough through the horde, and with WS you vent so much, the thing here is it's the enemies that you aren't venting, when you are not venting, and where vent don't reach, like really far on your sides

[pale prairie]

Sleeping_bitch would be more fitting

[pale prairie]

Only way to know is to test it out! Preferably with random teammates

[visual phoenix]

im pushing forward a lot with 10% wr staff
it does work for me, havent notice any wf value

probably will not notice in future

[ripe obsidian]

                                    valid_target = true```

[severe folio]

it only happen in a very specific moment so yeah i can see the chance of it not showing up at all is a lot more frequent than when it actually function

breed witch ??

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/72cde1c088677d22b3830d9681d015167782b10a/scripts/settings/buff/weapon_buff_templates.lua#L178

[visual phoenix]

like in what situations

[severe folio]

big horde that came in all directions i suppose

[visual phoenix]

Where it Could shine-everything is already on fire with vent of purg staff

[severe folio]

and lots of ranged enemies staying behind the line

mostly outside the purgatus range

[visual phoenix]

In other cases it doing practycly nothing for me

[severe folio]

yeah

your playstyle def doesn't need it

the only thing i have notice about it is that i somehow kill enemies i didnt vent or purg

[ripe obsidian]

"Any source that may apply an electrocution effect to enemies but is not Smite or Charged Strike will not proc Enfeeble."

[visual phoenix]

did it change something?
I gues its cool, like If wf spread, If it spreads at target that in sertain distance, If KF procs on targets you needed to proc

[severe folio]

ppl talk about WF softening enemies and all that but what I see the most about it is that when theres a lot of bodies, it essentially increase the range of my purgatus's effectiveness

[visual phoenix]

A bit too much stuff for 1 node that can just be ignored by pressing W

[severe folio]

and that is probably because i mostly stand my ground pretty often when using purgatus, as such i can feel the range more keenly

if i am more mobile, more proactive in moving forward or into the horde, the node would be useless

[visual phoenix]

Surely purg need to soft things< stick deals not enough dmg :^)

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire is not, on its own, a major damage increase. It is a utility. It gets stacks on enemies before they get to you, thus making your Inferno-based stacks scale faster. It gives you more chances to proc In Fire Reborn. It spreads super far to random specials and kills them with KF, which pops PC for more damage and wildfire spread.

[severe folio]

ikr lol

[gray juniper]

It’s useful for clearing in havoc especially when others aren’t doing it consistently or able to

[visual phoenix]

I dont mind wildfire, its just a questionable Ok node
But picking it over warp battery is idk

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire is a fine node. It's not OP, but it's not bad. It's solidly in the middle.

[visual phoenix]

Its hard to take this seriously yk

[severe folio]

yeah the thing about that is that, i dont quite feel it help with making flame stack goes up faster, since my flame stack already rack up so high and fast without it, and in turn that help IFR too, I have begun to notice the increase range however

[ripe obsidian]

I can't consistently get to 6 stacks on Warp Siphon before Shrieking again, so it's not useful to me

[gray juniper]

Either way I’m probably going to switch to a 30 warp staff to improve on the damage rate because clearing even faster is needed

[gray juniper]

I’m dropping bubble too frequently for it to be worth it

[severe folio]

honestly i think im playing it very old school

vent, flame, WS

BB

[ripe obsidian]

If an enemy has 4 stacks of Soulblaze on them before you start burning them, then your initial damage is quadrupled. 4 stacks is like 11 damage per tick, 8 is like 48

[pale prairie]

Case in point all these guys talking about wild fire or warp battery have very similar builds and use the same staff haha

[ripe obsidian]

If you get 8 stacks on an enemy in the time it would take you to do 4, it's a major damage increase

[severe folio]

what i mean is, between purging them from 4 stacks, and purging them from 0 stacks, the speed climb increase feels insignificantly low to call it an advantage

[ripe obsidian]

I think it makes a notable difference on trash mobs. Less on elites

[severe folio]

i feel like it makes no notable difference on either

maybe my purgatus is just possessed idk

[ripe obsidian]

This is why Wildfire is a contentious node

[severe folio]

yeah

[ripe obsidian]

It's not a very visible improvement, and it's hard to measure the impact

[visual phoenix]

not all of my vents are used at 6 stacks as well. But its crusual to me
5.5s of vent is a Big difference. With 10% wr staff especialy

[ripe obsidian]

I used to use Warp Battery, but I just wasn't getting enough stacks most of the time for it to be valuable

So I swapped to WF

[visual phoenix]

And was it noticible?

[ripe obsidian]

I do get a lot more WS stacks. Damage, I would have to test more

[visual phoenix]

thats the thing

[pale prairie]

Sounds to me it’s less about being noticeable and more about warp battery barely being used

[ripe obsidian]

I can do a run without WF later and see the buff uptime thingy

[visual phoenix]

so all of this bcuz We not killing enough?)

[pale prairie]

Yeah I suck

[summer prairie]

shriek cd should be 16.4s with 4 charges and 12.9s with 6 charges

so 3.5s difference

[visual phoenix]

is it?

45% over 30s ability cd

[summer prairie]

I haven't tried it in forever, just based on math

it first reduces your cooldown based on your aura+curios

that takes it to 23.4s

[visual phoenix]

alr il check it in a sec

[gray juniper]

Vent is significantly different from building for bubble though. Mentioning the basis of the build is worth noting on build debates @severe folio

[pale prairie]

No all same

[visual phoenix]

yeah, around that

im still stand over those seconds

[gray juniper]

It’s pretty close in actuality on talent choices yes, but concern different

[tulip kettle]

just constantly with this same point about warp battery over wildfire and six answered it perfectly same way as we have all week

its all good in theory but in reality the 5th and 6th stack of warp battery have such a low uptime and will be purged off immediately with shriek if you ever do get them that its just not worth it

[ripe obsidian]

For example, when Psyker with Seer's Presence aura (-0.1), four warp charges and three 4% Combat Ability Regeneration curio perks (-0.12) uses Telekine Shield, its maximum cooldown of 40s is first reduced by aura and curio perks to 40+40x(-0.1-0.12)=31.2 seconds. This max cooldown is then considered by Warp Siphon and further reduced by the warp charge-based reduction to 31.2-31.2x(0.075x4)=21.84 seconds.

I didn't realize WS happened after other CDR

[tulip kettle]

👆

and THEN

PA starts doing work and you kill 2 elites and its off cd already and you only have 2 warp charges

the process of killing the 5th and 6th elite is doing nothing with PA because shriek is already off cd by then

you arent getting the dmg buffs from the WC stacks because you dont have them yet

and as soon as you have them youre gonna shriek again and lose them

[hearty wolf]

Are there any frens here

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-hey-peepo-twitch-pepe-pepo-gif-19500843

[hearty wolf]

Very good

@ripe obsidian working?

@strong gulch

Hi

[hearty wolf]

Are you fren

I have seen you but you've yet to be adopted

[ripe obsidian]

Aye

Well, "working". I am in the office

[hearty wolf]

F

I was in office too today

[severe folio]

adopted ?

[pale prairie]

Into friend group

[tulip kettle]

he means "abducted"

[pale prairie]

Ooof

[tulip kettle]

to his dungeon

[pale prairie]

This the reject tutorial all over again

[severe folio]

i like dungeons

[tulip kettle]

where he will put you in bunny ears and a tail

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-funnyanimal-cat-kitten-cute-gif-1816846181050494705

[severe folio]

mmmmm

[strong gulch]

Hi

[hearty wolf]

Good

That means the adoption must take place

As we have 3/4

[tulip kettle]

ill be on DT in 5-10 mins

[hearty wolf]

I go touch some grass then

[strong gulch]

Ooh give me like 15 min

[hearty wolf]

I'm supposed to replace the battery and filters in my Dyson but

That sounds like aids

[pale prairie]

Aren’t the filters washable?

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/betty-boop-whip-gif-27641888

[severe folio]

oh im playing with my friend atm

[hearty wolf]

What the FUCK

[ripe obsidian]

I think in the UK they call every vacuum a Dyson

[hearty wolf]

Am I not fren?

[hearty wolf]

Maybe but this battery I ordered came with two free ones

So might as well

[pale prairie]

Wow that’s crazy good brand recognition. Someone give Dyson advert guys a raise

[pale prairie]

Well except that sounds like aids

[ripe obsidian]

And Dyson rewarded the loyalty by moving their manufacturing facilities out of the UK after Brexit.

[marble crater]

Ironic

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-game-that-will-always-find-a-way-to-be-played-explaining-defining-revealing-showing-gif-12458964

[ripe obsidian]

Unrelated: if Austin were in a better state, this city would be great.

Move it to, like, Minnesota or Washington or Massachusetts. Somewhere cold.

[pale prairie]

That is something I have heard but less about the weather and more the culture

One small blue bastion of freedom and diversity

[ripe obsidian]

The city's culture is fantastic. The state's culture is garbage.

[pale prairie]

Hope your state senators stay safe

[ripe obsidian]

I hope so as well.

I moved from one Gerrymandered state to another, just in the opposite direction.

[pale prairie]

Hah east or west coast?

[ripe obsidian]

Look at this nonsense

[pale prairie]

8: that Maryland?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[pale prairie]

Never seen it that zoomed in before

The pieces of pie strategy is a tried and true

[ripe obsidian]

It's not a very interesting state on the whole. But it's gerrymandered like crazy

Best state flag, though

[pale prairie]

Honestly we need to reduce the number of states down to like 40 and increase senators per state to 3

[marble crater]

That looks like my current Europa Universalis 4 game bordergore because of all my vassals

[pale prairie]

Show me a state that isn’t lms

[ripe obsidian]

Need to abolish the senate entirely and expand congress proportional to population. >:(

[pale prairie]

Yeah basically

[pale prairie]

I am fine with senate but it needs to be expanded so fucking Alaska can’t ruin my life

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf hi

[pale prairie]

Senate expanded/Supreme Court expanded. But don’t touch mah government unless it’s me doing the touching /s

[pale prairie]

Please gather funny clips so I can live vicariously at work

[ripe obsidian]

The senate gives outsized influence to large, empty states and takes power away from cities.

[pale prairie]

Absolutely but it still serves a purpose

[strong gulch]

good point 🫡

[pale prairie]

Just reduce the the margin of influence by expanding how many senators there are

[hearty wolf]

Yush

@tulip kettle

[pale prairie]

Imaginary Darktide bucks if you get footage of a barrel launch death

[strong gulch]

new slop in the shop

oh no

lol

[pale prairie]

@gray juniper how you use zealot blitz?

[ripe obsidian]

I am in favor of a pretty radical overhaul of many facets of the federal government. But I should probably stop before it gets too political in here

[marble crater]

Good joke

[tulip kettle]

i be here, we got a strike team?

[hearty wolf]

Asia's politics is actually seriously really interesting.

As Westerner's, there's so much you don't know that it's mind boggling.

[pale prairie]

Fair enough. I am all for radical change. The system is very old and the framers could not even imagine a country this big with a population this large. But yeah best to save it

[hearty wolf]

And it all basically starts billions of years ago. Formation of earth is so important to Asia's history because of where life ended up developing

[pale prairie]

Where’s the vet?

[hearty wolf]

I make one in a sec

[tulip kettle]

i mean what is vets cliche name

[hearty wolf]

Or you can

[tulip kettle]

john darktide i guess

or dickot

[tulip kettle]

69 has only 1 occupant....

[hearty wolf]

Of course it's the furry too

@deft stump en explain yourself

Also nice, didn't realise you had the og discord name

[deft stump]

Oh, I forgot to leave it. We were playing.

[pale prairie]

Politics all over the world going back to ancient times are fascinating. Maybe cause the viewpoints are so different from our own.

[deft stump]

Was with @brave sandal , @fiery canyon and @inland tundra

[fiery canyon]

my soul left my body when i got pinged in psyker chat

[brave sandal]

I was on a walk in the park

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045849926011203704

[deft stump]

No you guys can have it. XD

[deft stump]

XD

[deft stump]

I AM NAWT A FURRY!

[ripe obsidian]

Bit of a late protestation

[deft stump]

Brain processes things in a weird way.

Also, I still need to say, cat girls aren't furries.

It falls under weeb.

[paper oriole]

Bald guy named alpharius, zealot with spiked hair called heihachi and psyker named Magnus

[ripe obsidian]

I genuinely do not know the difference between a cat girl and a furry

That is outside my circle of kink expertise

But maybe I shouldn't make chat political or kinky. Hm.

[paper oriole]

First image in google - I don’t know if you agree with this but it is a start 🫣

[plucky flax]

log in
want to play bubble knight havoc
my map has blight spread

log out

[gray juniper]

More like “UGH! UGH! UGH! There that got him 😈 “

[ripe obsidian]

Suffer in the toxic sludge.

[pale prairie]

“I got it!! ting shit ting fuck ting damnit shunk GOTTEM…FIRST TRY!”

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-clancy-texas-chainsaw-massacre-chainsaw-horror-gif-15967957165553679101

[plucky flax]

I will just not play darktide. 😤

I'm on strike.

[visual phoenix]

leave me a slot

[plucky flax]

[dull scroll]

this is heretical knowledge

[visual phoenix]

you need a better map prob no?

[plucky flax]

Oh.

You have?

But I'll probably just watch tv shows now.

[visual phoenix]

i probably have something good to play

[paper oriole]

It is just to check for the Abhumas, I swear officer

Prasie the Emperor and down with the xenos

[visual phoenix]

no?

[plucky flax]

Blight spreads

[visual phoenix]

fine

[plucky flax]

We should all go on strike.

Until they remove that modifier from game entirely.

[visual phoenix]

commit genocide

https://tenor.com/view/im-come-you-gif-18197944984816523843

[plucky flax]

But they don't care about feedbacks so whatever.

[ripe obsidian]

Instead, they're doubling the number of modifiers for H40. Red+purple+blight spreads+fart carapace.

[visual phoenix]

blight is alr

idk

[plucky flax]

It's anti melee though.

It's alright for burga.

[ripe obsidian]

Blight is anti-melee, fart carapace is anti-ranged. Red+purple is anti-everything.

Get 4 Branx Ogryn to mine their way through the map. Transform the game into DRG

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-dwarf-dance-deep-rock-galactic-floss-dwarf-floss-gif-22273078

[waxen jackal]

Is the surge staff considered the "worst" staff?

[pale prairie]

No the voidstrike is considered “weaker” than the others do to synergy with talents being tough

And the fact it’s damage, stagger, cleave fall off on high difficulties

[waxen jackal]

Oh okay. I saw someone on reddit the other day saying surge sucks. But I like it

[pale prairie]

Good play and build synergy can make most staves work but the hierarchy very broadly is

Purgatus/VoidBLAST >ElectroKinetic > VoidSTRIKE

[pale prairie]

When you use it it’s best paired with Vent/perilous combustion/creeping flames to help deal the horde damage that it lacks

[waxen jackal]

That's what I've been doing, and bringing the greatsword with it

[mighty agate]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

said purgatus

[pale prairie]

Crutch said what?

[ripe obsidian]

Reddit is a great source of misinformation

[marble crater]

Elektro is the best staff for me, in auric

[waxen jackal]

They don't seem to like the game very much on the darktide page lol

[mighty agate]

Build?

[ripe obsidian]

Reddit, on the whole, thinks being edgy and liking nothing is cool.

[pale prairie]

Because Reddit is mostly a complaint forum /s

in reality hate and complaints gains more views, comments, and clicks than positive posts

[paper oriole]

Why is that? Does it elite killing power makes it better then blast or inferno?

[ripe obsidian]

It's also very easy for people on reddit to make a post, pose as if they know everything, and ignore any criticism while people who don't know better praise them.

[marble crater]

Pretty much the same one that's pinned here, the brain burst version

[ripe obsidian]

You don't realize just how ill-informed reddit is until you find a post on a topic you know a lot about.

[pale prairie]

Horde density

Is lacking

[radiant frigate]

no i mean even for left side i doubt you would frequently stack it up that high before ulting again anyway

[ripe obsidian]

For me, it was someone saying their phone sending 10 probes a second caused their wireless router to overheat and die. Which... is not how that works.

[pale prairie]

I am in agreement

[radiant frigate]

and if you never go beyond 4 then it is wasted

[marble crater]

Because it's more aggressive and mobile, which I enjoy playing more. Also depends on the rest of the team, Elektro has less "anti synergy" for lack of a better word. I love playing voidblast, but I won't play Voidblast if there is a melee ogryn or arby on the team for example

[paper oriole]

Can you expand on that?
Do you mean that horse density it too low to get full use from blast and inferno?

[pale prairie]

I don’t trust strangers to kill specials

[pale prairie]

It’s inconsistent

[paper oriole]

Thanks for explaining, I didn’t see it this way

[ripe obsidian]

Aye, horde density in non-Havoc (unless there's some modifier changing things) is often too low, and enemies too squishy, for Inferno to ramp up well

[trail panther]

I've had so many matches lately where noone deals with the poxburster when I'm not able to deal with it

[ripe obsidian]

EK can burst down specials and elites super quickly in Auric, and to a lesser extent in Havoc, which gives you Psykinetic Aura procs, which means more shriek, which means more horde clear...

[marble crater]

Me neither, that's why I shoot the burster they are about to push, in case they miss

[paper oriole]

I don’t know, in my games it feels like everyone is gunning for them

[ripe obsidian]

Without Shriek and PA, EK has a harder time

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wheel-keeps-on-turning-the-wheel-weaves-as-the-wheel-wills-tam-althor-al-thor-tam-gif-22942487

[pale prairie]

Yep love that the RMB typically can’t kill them on a low charge so you can push them from so far away

[trail panther]

I have decided

I am going to kill Brunt or whatever that stupid robot dude is named

[marble crater]

No I mean killing the burster

[paper oriole]

In auric I think 2-3 full charged RMB do the trick

[pale prairie]

Maybe. I tend to notice that they get ignored in favor of really fun horde zombies… might be an US servers thing. We don’t give a fuck about teams

[paper oriole]

Omg, is this the WoT tv series?

[marble crater]

Brunt is an Ogryn

[pale prairie]

I mean I do that too. It’s easier when they are on the ground away from my teammate to quick LMB

[trail panther]

Whatever the armory dude is called

[pale prairie]

Brunt

[trail panther]

it's another 15% toughness curio

[marble crater]

No, not when they are away from the team

[pale prairie]

I hate it with a passion but it’s a good turn of phrase

[marble crater]

You have a lot to learn...

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132

[pine shore]

Anyone got the psyker paladin build?

[pale prairie]

You mean bubble knight?

[pine shore]

yea

I swear I've seen someone also call it Paladin

[pale prairie]

This is a good start with some flex points to make it more your own. I would try to get One with the Warp but it’s your game

[paper oriole]

I am in US right - makes me a bit concerned about playing 😆

[pale prairie]

I have no basis for my statement other than my own personal experience and the Adage “if you want something done right, do it yourself”

[paper oriole]

I also hate it, I needed to check before using the puke emoji

I watched only the first season and gave up after it

[pine shore]

So I just replace scriers with a bubble, right?

[pale prairie]

The absolute assassination of the source material was a huge disappointment

[marble crater]

I notice a lack of bubble in this bubble knight build

[pale prairie]

Yep

[pale prairie]

I said

Good

Place

To

Start

[marble crater]

Smh

[pale prairie]

Post your own @marble crater

[pine shore]

And what ranged would I use ideally?

Staff or not?

[forest mica]

https://tenor.com/view/well-done-my-child-well-done-very-good-success-crypt-tv-gif-14208351

[marble crater]

I don't have one or play it, I always just link Agent's video

[paper oriole]

It was - I loved the books, I read all in 3 months
Every single break at work I was reading, stayed up till 3 in the morning to read
Terrific series

[pale prairie]

Most use recon laser

[ripe obsidian]

Because I want to lament Voidstrike...

I believe Voidstrike has 20 cleave. Might be wrong.

In a horde, Poxwalkers have 1.5 hitmass. Ceiling(20/1.5) = 14, so cleave through 13 walkers and stop on the 14th.

But in havoc, horde enemies have their hitmass increased, capping at 2.7x on H35.

1.5x2.7 = 4.05.

Which means you go from hitting 14 poxwalkers to... 5.

[pine shore]

what about h40? I don't see why purg won't work here

[ripe obsidian]

In H40, Inferno and Voidblast are common staves.

EK is less common, but viable.

Voidstrike is trash

Sadly.

[pine shore]

Bring back p13 voidsrike

[forest mica]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-gif-27207643

[pine shore]

It was so cool

[pale prairie]

Yeah well that was the furthest up on my camera roll and I am technically supposed to be working right now

[pale prairie]

I thought it was like 13 or something

Ignore me

[bright summit]

purge is boring but a lot of the density and scaling is balanced around it which sucks because if you enjoy other staffs you have to work extra hard to output similar levels

[forest mica]

https://tenor.com/view/moment-of-silence-pay-respect-rip-rest-in-peace-bow-gif-15963301

[bright summit]

def doable though

[pale prairie]

Yeah just git gud

[ripe obsidian]

I can find out

[ripe obsidian]

Purge without bubble is less boring

[pale prairie]

You can but you said you wanted to play bubble knight

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[pine shore]

bubble knight is viable h40

https://i.vgy.me/3ycobI.jpg
https://i.vgy.me/lcR7Z3.jpg

Looks good for now

[ripe obsidian]

Oop. The code says cleave distribution of 10 for attack and 12 for impact. Not entirely sure how that works on a projectile, but that's even worse than I thought

[pale prairie]

Basically if you grab purg you should be using it constantly cause it’s about DOTs and DOT spread. Pulling it out for just one pump is not using it to its maximum. It also doesn’t pair well with the DD side of the tree as compared to a regular gun. Finally the purposes are different. The purgatus staff is for horde clear primarily. So is the FGS/melee weapon of the Bubble knight. So how does one clear specials? You can use Assail but a gun helps when you’ve used most of them to weave between attacks or if you have too high of peril to use. Also helps some with safe monstrosity damage

[pale prairie]

Goddamn

Impact must be how many bodies it can CC

[ripe obsidian]

So I guess halve the numbers I said earlier.

[pale prairie]

Yeah it’s pretty good for world building and for its time very diverse. I am curious if the original author would have ended the series differently from Brandon Sanderson

[ripe obsidian]

One with the Warp is often worse than +15 toughness, depending on your toughness before you pick one of the two.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[pale prairie]

Good point you think maybe going for +15 toughness and maybe souldrinker would be better?

[forest mica]

Really glad I’ve always liked the fire brainburst setup tbh other ones are tough

[pale prairie]

I think you did the math earlier and you were saying just having high toughness was better right?

[ripe obsidian]

Depends on toughness beforehand. Mine is usually 90 before picking OwtW or +15. With that baseline, 60% peril OwtW is a little lower than +15, and 80% is a bit higher.

Higher toughness makes OwtW more valuable

[delicate hull]

why tf is it so HARD to play psycher ?? (I play on Ogryn then now Psycher )

[forest mica]

So question on curious though what do you all usually put on them?

[ripe obsidian]

Ogryn is invincible and gets toughness from looking at enemies. Psyker dies to a stiff breeze.

With the toughness on bracing weapon talent, you literally get toughness for looking at enemies. :D

[forest mica]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-work-it-ain't-much-farmer-honest-work-done-gif-13983938260498736951

[ripe obsidian]

For Havoc:

2x 17% toughness, 1x 21% HP

3x CDR/Gunner resist/toughness

That is what I use.

Can swap CDR for health, or the 21% health for toughness.

[pale prairie]

I think my current build gives me +30 toughness

[forest mica]

Okay that’s kinda the route I was heading down

[ripe obsidian]

But without the 21% HP, bursters do too much damage

Take me below 1 wound

[ripe obsidian]

H40 base toughness for Psyker is... 30, I think.

75-45

[pale prairie]

So good during gas levels

[ripe obsidian]

Ogryn and Arby get toughness for existing.

It's such a different game, especially during pox gas modifiers or Dreg bomber seeds

[pale prairie]

I took like 1.2K damage from gas in my last game with psyker. Ogryn took like maybe 100-200 from gas it was stupid

[ripe obsidian]

Also, if your Psyker is not yet max level, you're gonna have a worse time. Pre-30 Psyker is suffering.

[forest mica]

True

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. Very limited TDR to mitigate gas damage, slow toughness regen by comparison, low toughness pool. With Arby, you can just melee headshot a single enemy and get 50% toughness back

[pale prairie]

I am not helping myself with ER either hahaha

I did a quick play and was like ohhhhhhh this is gas and didn’t grab bubble

[ripe obsidian]

I am pondering swapping off of ER on my bubble build. I am not sure. I don't have an issue not popping my head, it's more a matter of how much time I have to spend quelling

[pale prairie]

Yeah it’s a lot more of a toss up with Infernus staff. I kind of need with EK or else I have much reduced casts

[ripe obsidian]

My perennial complaint is that I wish Ogryn and Arby did less damage. Keep the tankiness and CC, sure. Just don't compete with the Psyker for damage while being able to shrug off things that kill me.

[delicate hull]

I AM SUFFRING T_T

[pale prairie]

That’s my thing is that it needs to be a choice not a best of both worlds

[ripe obsidian]

Part of the issue is that being able to tank and kill everything solo reduces team play. No need to care about what the Psyker's doing if you don't feel like you need them.

[ripe obsidian]

My best advice for pre-30 Psyker is to get assail and use it relentlessly

[pale prairie]

Ah sibling so are all Psykers before max level and gear

And get a mobile weapon

[delicate hull]

I now feel the real suffer of player who play psycher while playing Ogryn

[delicate hull]

BF Greatsword and VoidBlast build I am trying my best with this build. Plus Assail

[marble crater]

Greatsword is the opposite of a mobile weapon

[pale prairie]

Greatsword is an excellent weapon but yeah it doesn’t help you reposition

[delicate hull]

From a 40k L4D gameplay as Ogryn. Now i went to Remnant gamplay with psycher and that was still on Heresy

[delicate hull]

Dueling sword?

[radiant frigate]

duolingo is very mobile

[pale prairie]

That’s really good for learning the game

[ripe obsidian]

This is why people often claim, incorrectly, that Psyker is the weakest class. It's just harder because it's unforgiving. With some experience, it's very strong

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/duolingo-gif-13933934829904617875

[radiant frigate]

"psyker weak" is just a thinly veiled "i didn't try"

[pale prairie]

Helps you stick close to safety. And you can blast things with the staff knock them on the ground and run away. It also helps with heavie killing which voidblast doesn’t do super good with or assail

[pale prairie]

I don’t see how learning a language will help but you’re the pro

[radiant frigate]

learning a language grants you mobility as it opens up new parts of the map for regular play

[pale prairie]

Damn over 2 years in this game and I am still learning

[delicate hull]

I play SM 2 now darktide i fell less "cool" but then after ogryn i decided to play psycher for more "game sense" and IT IS very very SENSATION XD

[radiant frigate]

but i think that advice is more about terra than it is about atoma

[pale prairie]

Then you go back to Ogryn and play even better because of all the psyker practice lmao except for the slower dodges haha

[pale prairie]

HE WHO LIVES ON TERRA

[radiant frigate]

when i play ogryn it is doubtlessly effective

[ripe obsidian]

I envy people who grew up in multilingual countries or households

[radiant frigate]

but also not interesting

[pale prairie]

Me too. I want the larger brain

[radiant frigate]

wait till you hear about the Swiss

[delicate hull]

i never dodge on Ogryn tbh even playing on Auric now i play the smaller class i understand why they need to doge regularly

[pale prairie]

Which ones? The French Swiss? German Swiss? Swiss Swiss?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ramona-singer-wow-thats-wow-amazed-gif-14100360

[radiant frigate]

and just like the swiss, you forgot about the italian swiss

[upper sun]

they speak 5 languages and are fluent in none

[pale prairie]

Fuck I really did

[upper sun]

trust me they arent that well off

[pale prairie]

I think I can see your problem adjusting to Psyker

[radiant frigate]

i am fluent in english and german

[delicate hull]

YAH for real i never doge XD

[pale prairie]

CLAD you are pretty funny

[radiant frigate]

there is knowledge of some others

but i do not speak them

[upper sun]

doesnt count english is discount german

[pale prairie]

Nice so you can sound posh AND angry

[ripe obsidian]

Or the Dutch.

[radiant frigate]

the dutch aren't real

[pale prairie]

Where did all these wooden shoes come from

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, I meant Belgians. Brain fart.

[upper sun]

i met one british dude who told me he was fluent in arabic the entire convo was "why" he just said "why" to me 10 times

he did something for the gov i dont remember what

[pale prairie]

What in the hell

[ripe obsidian]

My Belgian friend spoke four languages fluently and a couple more poorly

[marble crater]

Swamp Germans

[pale prairie]

That’s a level of confidence I wish I had

[upper sun]

the dutch are straight up the most attractive people i've ever seen

[pale prairie]

Amphibian Germans?

[pale prairie]

Crazy

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-oh-no-hes-hot-shaking-gif-16063591

[plucky flax]

You like big tall people?

[marble crater]

Bro went blind after seeing a Dutch person

[upper sun]

nah not height wise

face wise

[ripe obsidian]

I speak only English and know some Norwegian. It is a hard language to learn and practice when no one in my vicinity speaks it.

[plucky flax]

I see.

[upper sun]

theyre all very fit athletic and good looking even exluding the height part

[marble crater]

Norwegian is just German, but you sing the words

[radiant frigate]

ok I'm becoming dutch

[plucky flax]

Eastern europeans like Ukrainians and Russians girls are hot.

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-squidward-beautiful-gorgeous-gif-6025465

[pale prairie]

Your unexisting yourself? That’s terrible

[upper sun]

not compared to the dutch

[radiant frigate]

i will return

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

hungary and germany were filled with them after the "events" started

netherland still no diffs

[ripe obsidian]

I'd enjoy living in the Netherlands. I've visited five or six times.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow-palpatine-poe-dameron-poe-gif-20849141

[upper sun]

also cleanest country i've been to

[plucky flax]

Tru I liked netherlands.

It's better than UK.

[upper sun]

u just like it for the bike lanes

[pale prairie]

Also has a red light district right?

[plucky flax]

I only went to amsterdam during the day.

There were some girls in windows yes.

[pale prairie]

That lines up with your bedtimes

[forest mica]

Really?

[pale prairie]

The bike lanes are probably why you find them so athletic and fit

[upper sun]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Haven't been to Amsterdam. I've been to Valkenburg, Tilburg, and Eindhoven

[gray juniper]

Slavic & German chicks are better than Dutch. Sorry not sorry

[radiant frigate]

any district can be a red light district if your luck with traffic lights is sufficiently bad

[upper sun]

yeah prolly

[gray juniper]

It’s just not my taste

[forest mica]

Might have to broaden my horizons

[plucky flax]

It's nice country for running and cycling.

[visual phoenix]

Based take

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dad-joke-dadjoke-roasted-boom-gif-22339988

[plucky flax]

UK is okay but some places not too runner friendly.

[upper sun]

countryside isnt bad no?

[forest mica]

On that topic I always wanted to check out Brazil

[plucky flax]

Yeah but you run on the road itself.

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1274487631987605674/GVHX15RXoAApby3-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[plucky flax]

And there's risk of getting hit by car.

[upper sun]

no sidewalks?

[plucky flax]

Not on a country road bruh.

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[radiant frigate]

just use voidblast

[plucky flax]

Like outside of town.

[radiant frigate]

hard counter to cars

[plucky flax]

Connecting between two towns.

[upper sun]

break into clarkson's farm and run there

im sure its empty

[plucky flax]

Nah farmers hate it when you run on their lands.

They'd drive up to ya and say "Get out mate"

[pale prairie]

Excellent candidate for Kompromat

[ripe obsidian]

Better than the US.

[plucky flax]

Fair I've never been threatened only politely told to remove myself from their private lands.

Veri sad.

[pale prairie]

You can’t park there mate?

[ripe obsidian]

I used to live in a rural area. One night, there were cows on the road. I pulled into the driveway of the nearest farm, knocked on the door, and tried to tell the guy his cows were on the road. Politely. Stood like 4 feet back from the door once I knocked.

Fucker pulled a gun on me

[forest mica]

Back home you’d be lucky to have any warning besides a gun shot if you are on the farm land

[pale prairie]

Yeah the US you might get shot and then they get acquitted and write a book about standing their ground

[plucky flax]

Man I'm just out for a jog.

[ripe obsidian]

Like, are you fucking shitting me, dude. Your livestock is loose and gonna kill someone, or die themselves. Don't pull a gun on me when I'm trying to help your stupid ass.

[pale prairie]

Yeah this is what happens when you have more privately owned guns than people in your country

[plucky flax]

Was it a nice gun?

[ripe obsidian]

It was some pistol, I dunno

[pale prairie]

My family farmed and they would have been grateful to be informed. Also didn’t have a gun

[forest mica]

Well for all he knew you were stealing em

[ripe obsidian]

I am, in fact, a cattle rustler. You caught me.

[forest mica]

😂

[pale prairie]

More like the guy was like, “stranger at the door? The day I have been waiting for!”

[plucky flax]

[forest mica]

True true

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/how-i-have-waited-for-this-day-kwik-e-mart-shotgun-simpsons-gif-12763622219173997738

[forest mica]

There are sadly a lot of people with that mind set

[pale prairie]

“I bought the whole gun but never get to shoot anybody 😭 “

[ripe obsidian]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XDok9M5Euk4

[pale prairie]

The sarcasm of this I think flies over so many Americans’ heads

[upper sun]

I HATE THIS GAME

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[forest mica]

Ah yes the wombo combo

[pale prairie]

A Dutch person could have done it

[upper sun]

tru

[forest mica]

Don’t worry teammates think it was your fault you should’ve anticipated the dog earlier in the chaos

[pale prairie]

Jesus 2 pox bursters at the same time absolute love

[upper sun]

😭

there were so many thingies

[pale prairie]

It’s like the time I had 4 bursters from 2 different directions I tried pushing two but it was just death

[pale prairie]

Was this a classic QP load in everyone is dead you have like 50 health?

[forest mica]

I just scream at them tbh

[marble crater]

Why didn't you dodge?

[pale prairie]

Damn you almost lived too but for the fucking gunfire

[upper sun]

they cancelled my stim 😭

[forest mica]

I mean bros muscle memory on that block got em

[marble crater]

This has happened a lot to him, I don't think there is memory

[pale prairie]

If it makes you feel better my psyker would have been dead after the first burster

[forest mica]

Better swap to Ogryn then

No brain just big

[pale prairie]

Doesn’t help with the dog and bigger hitbox for flames lmao

[forest mica]

Nah but he big and shield kinda just doesn’t care even though it’s a bad setup

There are ways you just won’t be contributing as much as you probably should

[pale prairie]

Against flames?

[forest mica]

Nah those you just gotta get angry and they go away

Or that’s how my ogryn friend describes it

[ripe obsidian]

What does charging the plasma gun do? Just more damage?

[plucky flax]

Never charge it xd

[ripe obsidian]

I know. I want to know what it does mechanically

[forest mica]

Speaking of stuff I never have seen some arbites class I ran into had like a crazy full auto laser gun wtf was the thing

[marble crater]

Makes you explode

But yeah damage

[forest mica]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-bitcoin-ethereum-eth-btc-gif-27338496

[pale prairie]

Sacred boom boom as hadron calls it

[jovial juniper]

More cleave as well

Goes from 50 to 100

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

[wraith sphinx]

I booted up the game and just noticed the slop shop updated

they really put this set back in rotation months after I stopped wanting to buy it

gg fatshark lol

[marble crater]

The shop updated? - Arbites

[pale prairie]

Checkmate

[wraith sphinx]

nope

[wraith sphinx]

I admit I have really been flattened by their sales strategy here

[marble crater]

How they have 0 cosmetics prepared to sell while everyone is still hyped about the new class, I will never understand

[static sonnet]

They ways of fatshark will never ever make sense

[pale prairie]

I pray they will eventually buckle and release everything like HD2

[pale prairie]

Hey all the dev time was dedicated towards the class with broken talents

[marble crater]

Broken talents, still incredibly OP

[pale prairie]

Yeah this astounds me

[jovial juniper]

Buy the drip dlc

That's what they want you to

[marble crater]

No, I'm going to buy Helldivers at the end of the month

God willing I will have finished BG3 before then

[waxen jackal]

With the illisi is the most efficient way to horde clear H1L2 or just light spam

[pale prairie]

Good choice soldier

[jovial juniper]

Special heavy spam

[waxen jackal]

Cool thanks

[marble crater]

Special, special, special, special, special, shriek
Is my horde clear combo

[delicate hull]

Hoky Terra it had been done. I'm now lvl 30

[wraith sphinx]

enjoy and don't splurge your money on the entirety of the superstore at once

[delicate hull]

500hrs in

[marble crater]

That's not a problem, I don't have any money to spend on microtransactions

[delicate hull]

not a single penny spent for SC during that 500hrs

[marble crater]

From what I know you can unlock a lot by playing

[pale prairie]

Yep the farming is real

And every warbond you buy gives you $3 back from stuff you unlock inside

[marble crater]

I don't understand what that means yet, because I don't know what a warbond is or does

[pale prairie]

Warbond is a small dlc pack that contains a combo of character vanity stuff like capes, armor cosmetics, helmets, titles and player background cards in addition to new weapons, stratagem callins, and passive equippable buffs. You unlock them after buying the warbond using something called “medals” which again you can farm but you also get them when major objectives are completed by helldivers. Even if you don’t participate or play during the event you get them so they stack up quick. As a small bonus they include 300 of the currency you use to buy the warbond inside the warbond (warbond cost 1000 of these super credits) itself that you can unlock.

[thorn cedar]

It's their word for Battlepass.

[frail escarp]

man, not a lot of party finder games for havoc tonight huh

[thorn cedar]

You can't just buy what you want, you have to first buy access to a package and then you can use ingame currency to buy the contents.

[marble crater]

As long as it's not 'p2w'

[strong gulch]

ewwwwwww

[pale prairie]

The emperor has truly left you

I hate Toll

[strong gulch]

This looks so bad.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-fart-gas-stinky-gif-8945574110891947267

[ripe obsidian]

Proposal: fire blows up tox gas. I think that's an interaction in DRG? Does 100% damage to teammates. No mercy for the weak. And Arbiters deserve to burn if they're gonna flaunt their ability to break the stuff.

[weary idol]

what map

[nocturne dust]

That's a buff for the flamethrower and nothing else

Unless you mean any enemy with burn stacks

[ripe obsidian]

Burning enemies who touch tox gas also cause it to explode. >:)

[pale prairie]

Suddenly whole map clear from one shriek

[weary idol]

nah it does friendly fire damage

havoc 40 crusher overhead damage

[ripe obsidian]

Still a buff.

[pale prairie]

Just bubble inside and light the fuse

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, no, I don't want more uncontrollable frustrating shenanigans

[ripe obsidian]

More friendly fire = more ways to express displeasure with teammates

[ripe obsidian]

Just bring your own fire so you control it

Also, this is far from a serious proposal.

[pale prairie]

Nonono let’s keep going how about when BoN dies it releases gas and now the whole map is covered

[nocturne dust]

I am aware, but also burn the witch for suggesting bad things

https://tenor.com/view/burn-the-witch-monty-python-knight-mob-gif-17060812

[ripe obsidian]

Fire should also ignite the BoN trail like oil.

And burning enemies should do extra damage to players they hit.

:(

[plucky flax]

Toll is actually the best modifier there lol

[bright summit]

https://imgur.com/a/hjRCaGT

EK + brain rupture + empowered psionics

didn't even win the mission either but i had 1.7 million damage lmao

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-the-witch-frances-conroy-pyre-fire-burn-gif-5477510085187829975

[strong gulch]

chasm station assination

[fluid knot]

Hey at least it doesnt have Heinous

[marble crater]

Hi, that's one of my favorite maps, because that's where I got cliffhanger

[ripe obsidian]

I can keep going.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-just-a-flesh-wound-kicked-flesh-wound-wound-gif-12275696

[ripe obsidian]

Having lower wounds now makes you move slower and do less damage. >:(

[pale prairie]

Yeah they all suck but if you can have favorites so can I

[marble crater]

Reverse martyrdom

[pale prairie]

Wait explain this to me

Having purple bars or having more/less segments

[ripe obsidian]

The former

[fluid knot]

Chat, im gunna do a funny 😄

[pale prairie]

Yikes just one shot me Mr. Burster

[pale prairie]

So I kind of forgot we had access to that weapon

[marble crater]

Fatshark forgot anyone has access to that weapon for a while

[fluid knot]

Doesnt seem like a horrendous combination in all fairness, ofc the smite subnode is stinking garbage on its own, but with this? Maybe not so bad

[pale prairie]

Let me know how it goes. It’s at least not another gunker/inferno

So points for being creative

[pale prairie]

We have so many bones for a fun electric centered build I wish they would synergise. (No smite just its subtalents)

[fluid knot]

The special does yes, however the smite node adds more DoT

Barely any active buffs, 1500ish DPS vs Mauler, gud enuff

[pale prairie]

It makes it “better”

Like “venting shriek does 100-200 damage based on peril”

[pale prairie]

Wow so good it lodged the crusher into the wall

[fluid knot]

Lmfao

[pale prairie]

Charged strike should affect EK

Too bad it doesn’t. Don’t mix the force electricity 😔

[fluid knot]

Actually there is a weird synergy here, by landing a heavy attack and then hitting the special, it cuts down the time you need to hold it on there to stagger lock an enemy, IE; Bulwark or Crusher, you can kinda just tag them with the special and stunlock them

[pale prairie]

Alright

This is interesting

How many do you think you can juggle?

2 maybe?

I don’t know how much cleave this thing has

[fluid knot]

Not enough to cleave a Crusher, but I reckon you could safely juggle four or so

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmm maybe with warpsplitting

[pale prairie]

Damn that’s actually solid

[fluid knot]

Which is about the same as the Vet's OG Shovel special, so decent enough utility

Only you're not cucked by stagger resist in the same way

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-im-happy-just-to-watch-happy-to-watch-watch-watching-gif-25489436

Again all praise the wonderfully worded talent descriptions

Bug or feature?

I wonder how crits affect the application of the shock Dots

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch @tulip kettle probs can come back soon. Gf was being spicy so was tad distracted

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf @tulip kettle @livid spear Behold. One of the squishies.

[fluid knot]

Yeah, but thats not applied to Ogryns

Only smaller enemies

But yeah you still benifit

The blessings are so fuckin free

[livid spear]

Is that one of 'em Axolotls or is this something else enitrely? Either way, is squishy/10

[marble crater]

Squish it

[jovial juniper]

Unironically

Shock Maul is the best weapon

To pair with Charged Strike

[marble crater]

Blocked

[jovial juniper]

There's math behind it

[fluid knot]

Yeah, but then you're giving up SC for Hammerblow or summat which seems kinda silly when you can just hit them, tag them with the special and get the damage boost

[strong gulch]

Yes. Is axolotl

[strong gulch]

I wonder how it will be after it's less warm.

[marble crater]

For your next trick, squish the cat

[livid spear]

Can you make it splay out like a pancake across a surface

Axolotl puddle.

[vestal trench]

i sure love inquisitor grendyl

[strong gulch]

Was not in a squished mood.