#psyker-class

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ripe obsidian
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Kuli's mechanics guides:

Psyker Talents & Mechanics - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505
Melee Weapon Blessings & Mechanics - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3286161222
Ranged Weapon Blessings & Mechanics - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3293278399
Curios, Stimms, Difficulty Mutators, Player Debuffs & Mechanics - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3318538305
Enemy Stats & Mechanics
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

Combine00's Havoc Modifiers Guide - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
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Thanks

ripe obsidian
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Thank you.

ripe obsidian
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I'm gonna remove those embeds, just because they take up too much space.

ripe obsidian
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I just don't want to monopolize space in the pins. Gotta make it easier to navigate

strong gulch
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Pins on mobile is... a time

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Oh, there was 80% more to this post that the pin let on. ok

pale prairie
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hmmmm do i grab Wildfire at the cost of 15 toughness on my EK build

ripe obsidian
polar crypt
ripe obsidian
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This is what I see, at least.

strong gulch
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Yeah all good

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
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I am doing Pubs Auric so I doubt i'll notice a big difference. I am shrieking alot though and wondering if I can get more fire this way

strong gulch
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I use wildfire on my EK build in aurics, but I don't in havocs because shooters are too scary. So I take EE instead. 😭

marble crater
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Speak for yourself, I don't even know who Kuli is angymorrow

strong gulch
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Wildfire on something like sniper vent purge is funny tho. Snipers just keep randomly dying. Pure skill for sure.

gray juniper
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According to Kuli’s guide, none of them proc on alt weapon except the ones already known like uncanny strike. This may make uncanny and unstable the strongest all rounder blessings between greatsword and babby sword

strong gulch
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Babby sword is my head cannon now.

cedar pagoda
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does meelee crit hit chance stack

strong gulch
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Yes

vague musk
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what should I change on my crowd control/anti hoard build

brazen rampart
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All of it.

vague musk
brazen rampart
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Too much investment in smite aux nodes, battle meditation isn't worth taking, crystalline will is way, way overkill because you literally can't pop yourself with smite and you have shriek on top of that, and you took left side EP instead of EP on elite kills.

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You also pathed to the right for mind in motion instead of to the left for psykinetic's aura.

marble crater
brazen rampart
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Also that middle node on EP isn't worth taking.

vague musk
brazen rampart
brazen rampart
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Left click smite can still pop you.

marble crater
gray juniper
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Yes. This is like a bumper car build. All these safety measures for something that’s not perilous in the first place

mighty agate
gray juniper
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Gotta learn to quell manually broski

vague musk
brazen rampart
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I would personally just not use smite because assail is so much better.

marble crater
vague musk
brazen rampart
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The only thing smite does that assail doesnt do is kill carapace.

strong gulch
brazen rampart
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Assail will take an entire pack of 30 shotgunners and delete them in 1/4th the time that smite would.

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Even faster with PC involved.

vague musk
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does perilous combustion and wildfire stack well

brazen rampart
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Wildfire is iffy because of mixed opinions on it, I think its worthless as a talent, but others like it.

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PC stacks upon itself.

marble crater
vague musk
brazen rampart
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Smite kills carapace, albeit, slowly.

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Assail will hit carapace and dink off it for like 4 damage.

vague musk
cedar pagoda
brazen rampart
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In practice, no.

marble crater
strong gulch
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There's staff builds in the 3rd pin.

gray juniper
vague musk
brazen rampart
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Creeping flames is going to kill anything that isn't an elite on its own once you hit whatever the threshold is. (I think it's 64%?)

marble crater
brazen rampart
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So anything stacking above that is worthless vs chaff.

cedar pagoda
mighty agate
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The best for cc is VoidBLAST staff

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so smite is not needed

strong gulch
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Wildfire is good in its relevent builds but will not break a build by not taking it.

cedar pagoda
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it will kill carapace enemies but you gotta dump alot of assail

strong gulch
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Don't assail cara.

brazen rampart
# cedar pagoda i did some testing nope

If I have to boot darktide right now and install creature spawner just to get dd stacks in psykhanium and throw darts at crushers to tell you you're wrong then I'm going to throw rocks through your window.

tulip kettle
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in havoc 6 stacks not enough to even kill trash often

marble crater
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Assail Cara ❌
Assault Cara ✅

vague musk
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anyways, imma go play an auric then complain that i die quickly depsite taking the node that makes me weak

cedar pagoda
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took like 6 shards

brazen rampart
brazen rampart
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Assail targets heads.

tulip kettle
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assail does like 4 dmg to cara yes, its useless

brazen rampart
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Go throw darts at maulers and crushers.

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They have carapace heads.

cedar pagoda
tulip kettle
brazen rampart
brazen rampart
tulip kettle
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ha i see what you mean

brazen rampart
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You cant hit a creeping flames bp vs chaff, is what I mean.

strong gulch
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Assail usually hits heads and scab rager heads are not cara. The chest is cara; except DoTs ignore that.

Maulers heads and crushers tho... assail to them for damage is sos

gray juniper
# vague musk nah smite is amazing for large hoards

Friend, it’s not. Using shriek is redundant for the same purpose. It will hold a lot while:
-not covering your back and still having a cap that won’t cover you 360 especially from gunners at mid and long range
-it sucks up all your peril economy then forces you to quell whether it killed everything you needed to or not
-in higher difficulties killing becomes less probable and final toll makes it useless
-rampaging enemies and blight spreads increases hit mass so smite spreads much less

tulip kettle
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yes i agree, wildfire very much worth it in havoc with creeping flames though

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6 stacks poopy, 10 stacks good

strong gulch
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Get to 31 faster uwugryn

tulip kettle
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its all im chasing most games

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looking for them 31's

strong gulch
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lmao yes

thorn cedar
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im here to kick ass and maximize my perfectionist DD stacks
and im all maxed out on stacks

brazen rampart
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Assail doesn't, either.

thorn cedar
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its a fucken mess of code

brazen rampart
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I know assail doesn't. It just has a set amount of targets it can pierce.

gray juniper
thorn cedar
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the difference isnt massively significant but when you multiply it by 100 targets, it adds up

brazen rampart
brazen rampart
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On that chart is assail with all the things that affect cleave for it.

strong gulch
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OH RIGHT

Yeah perils needs to be 83.5% or higher for the max of 6 SB stacks. BUT it's recommended on default UI to get to 85% because the % rounds up. 84% could actually be below the needed 83.5%.

cedar pagoda
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is Shred with uncanny strike good

strong gulch
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For the most part, yes.

cedar pagoda
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I have been stuck at the karnak twins for 2 days imma actually loose it

brazen rampart
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Slaughterer better, assuming you're using 1h force sword.

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Or if you're constantly edging peril, unstable power.

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Strength is a flat 1:1 ratio of strength to damage.

strong gulch
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Depends on the melee and how it's used.

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Generally , uncanny is the anchor blessing if the melee can take it.

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Illisi is an exception to this, but that is not generally used.

cedar pagoda
cedar pagoda
brazen rampart
cedar pagoda
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I wont have to edge peril as much

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thats what am saying

strong gulch
cedar pagoda
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alr imma give it a try

strong gulch
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Delayed thought, but just fyi strength is damage, stagger and cleave.

edit: Wanted to add that if you see power, that's the old name for strength

vague musk
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my sword, purely because of gunners + I use dodge to move a lot

pale prairie
brazen rampart
gray juniper
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Yea

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Fast melee weapons and headshots are enough to rely on EE

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But inferno staff is OP because you can have shotgunners each try their shot in your and dodge in place as long as you time the secondary attack right

vague musk
brazen rampart
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You don't have EE on your smite build though.

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No way to abuse it if you don't have it.

vernal temple
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Brunt's shop is cooking today. Got a 430 rating 17% Toughness pogryn

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and a few hours before that a 420 rating 21% HP

mighty agate
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Then for me the only 430 curio on psyker is a +1 wounds

silk pebble
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Just finished leveling psyker to 30 and decided to yolo jump into havok 40. 10/10 experience

raven mountain
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idk why people even consider carapace with assail. If there's a train, you deal with them another way, but there's a lot of enemies it does work into, and you can even slide to the side and throw it at enemies behind armor before you directly engage the armor. It's still good in Rotten Armor modifier because there -are- normal enemies on the map. You just have be ready to throw down at a moment's notice.

vague musk
pale prairie
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I just EK and laugh as they dance explode and catch everything on fire

raven mountain
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Why? They usually do absolutely nothing.

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Just solve problems yourself.

gray juniper
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Enter a match with 3 psykers. One guy smyking his ass off at level start, angers daemonhost, kills him in 2 seconds, next guy dies one second after

pale prairie
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feel bad for him

raven mountain
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Outside of FotF, you'll do it just as fast as they do, and you don't have to hope that they're good enough to bother doing it.

gray juniper
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Smyking can actually make it a little more difficult to get aim on the head with thunder hammer because I’m not used to them shaking like that when lining it up

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Also if it happens right as I’m lining up the hit

raven mountain
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That too! I honestly hate dealing with a smyker because the enemies are all over the place. Dogs and break the line do similar shit

pale prairie
raven mountain
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Hard to stab their face when they are facedown on the floor.

gentle crag
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Guys I'm new and stupid, is brain burst a good skill to build around for?

patent jacinth
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No

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Unless you want to do a penance

raven mountain
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Build around assail. Get all your skill points, then play with all the toys.

gentle crag
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Ah damb, I like brain burst but its not that good eh?

patent jacinth
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Yeah

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Too slow

raven mountain
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It can be used, but it's finnicky and low returns compared to the effort you put in.

pale prairie
patent jacinth
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Even with buffs you could just shoot the problem faster like 90% of the time

raven mountain
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Like, you can go EP and all the BB nodes, and just kinda trash your way through a bunch of gunners and shotgunners

weary idol
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one maelstrom but it felt like days

raven mountain
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But then if you miss an elite, things start to go poorly.

gray juniper
pale prairie
raven mountain
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Wall and shriek are probably better than bubble.

weary idol
radiant frigate
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i am a wall denier

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bubble good though

pale prairie
weary idol
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But Kinetic Flayer is good passive damage

raven mountain
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Wall gets two charges and lets you empower BB harder.

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And shriek is a shorter cooldown and lets you have additional horde clear.

radiant frigate
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oh i was not aware we're talking specifically about empowering BB

pale prairie
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I don't like wall because in hectic fights i don't usually have the brain capacity to expertly place them for maximum protection

polar crypt
raven mountain
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Yeah, but with BB, it's not about big brain wall placement, it's about making bursts go boom.

gray juniper
raven mountain
patent jacinth
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It is however a valid pathing for Psykinetics aura

raven mountain
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And if you kill an elite with EP, you get another EP. So you can kinda chain them infinitely for free.

pale prairie
patent jacinth
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No

polar crypt
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it already has a weird damage type doesn't it

patent jacinth
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You can juice its cast time too high for that to be balanced

polar crypt
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it already does like very very high damage

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to anything

patent jacinth
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Kill flags on some enemies I agree with

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No all

pale prairie
raven mountain
raven mountain
patent jacinth
raven mountain
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So you can kill an infinite number of gunners with 0 peril

pale prairie
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Jesus I haven’t used that in so long

weary idol
gentle crag
raven mountain
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Power DI has some more detailed options, like I think you can look at more distinct damage types, but scoreboard is a nice all-in-one snapshot, especially with some of the mods that give you better info.

pale prairie
patent jacinth
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You can probably kill like 10+ crushers within 10 seconds if it could oneshot anything

pale prairie
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Like empowered is it like 1 second?

patent jacinth
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And with minimal effort

pale prairie
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Or heaven forbid the gunner squad

polar crypt
pale prairie
polar crypt
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there are many weapons that can't one-shot just any special, and on top of this, many that have to make tradeoffs between perks to get to one-shot breakpoints, so I dunno, it feels like brain burst fits that template to me

pale prairie
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I dunno it feels like in high density games that even 10 bulwarks in 10 seconds isn’t amazing

raven mountain
patent jacinth
polar crypt
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it's not so bad given it costs 0 ammo and can be done at any range

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you also don't have to aim or anything

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there's no conditions there

glass marlin
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Reee

pale prairie
patent jacinth
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How long was it

pale prairie
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26 min

raven mountain
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Like, I'm not saying BB is busted, but if you are specced for it, have EP+its speed mods, it does some solid work, especially into sub-mauler tier enemies.

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Fast and spreads burning nicely.

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Like EK fast

polar crypt
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yeah similarly I am also not saying it is 'the best ability ever in the game'

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but I think it has its place

gentle crag
polar crypt
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imo the argument could be made too for like, per-map situational niche

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there are some maps where there are tons of wide open spaces where long distant enemies, can mess with you and if you're taking like inferno staff or something you can't do much about that

raven mountain
ripe obsidian
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@verbal thistle has rejected me. D:

verbal thistle
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didnt want a purg

pale prairie
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Like I do something similar with EK perilous combustion, wildfire, and even vent shriek flames and I still had dudes up in my grill with two casts per crusher kill.

raven mountain
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And as far as gear goes, there's a bunch of guides as to what you want in stats

ripe obsidian
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That's fair

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I'm mostly being dramatic

raven mountain
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Stab them in the face.

polar crypt
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right now, you're level 30, time to throw your levelling talent tree in the trash and build something good

ripe obsidian
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oh, oops

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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thought that was a different match, did not mean to request a join a second time

rancid jasper
patent jacinth
ripe obsidian
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You changed characters, thought it was someone else!

gentle crag
raven mountain
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I do think BB should be an assured kill on non-ogryn, non-mauler, and maybe unarmored rager.

pale prairie
patent jacinth
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Its still insane in higher difficulties

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1 crusher every 1.5 seconds is faster than anything in the game

gray juniper
patent jacinth
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I think

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Stupid shit like thrust DS might be faster

strong gulch
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BB without buffs doesn't one shot dogs, dreg gunner, and ragers (plus the bigger things of course).

I do enjoy BB, but yeah it needs some work.

weary idol
gray juniper
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Look at it this way, at least you’re not a smyker

weary idol
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but that's a bit of a meme build

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ditto for exe bolter vet

rancid jasper
raven mountain
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My biggest issue with BB in higher difficulties is that if you take Shriek and EP, you aren't always gaining peril, so you can't really make good use of shriek.

gentle crag
patent jacinth
pale prairie
gray juniper
raven mountain
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While EP is makes sense, I wonder if DD stacks hit any special breakpoints for BB.

rancid jasper
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Does it not cleave carapace now

patent jacinth
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Because most DoT's have bad carapace damage

raven mountain
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Blaze does minimal damage against cara

patent jacinth
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for obvious reasons

raven mountain
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Like, it adds up over the course of a match and through density

radiant frigate
raven mountain
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but in terms of killing any one or any single train of cara, it just takes too much time.

gray juniper
rancid jasper
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I love kinetic flayer but 15 seconds is kind of an annoying cd

pale prairie
raven mountain
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KF is amazing, but it's not something that you rely on in situations.

gray juniper
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That’s moderately fast when you’re already doing a lot while a lot is going on

verbal thistle
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it goes off burn ticks now

raven mountain
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It's moreso just, yo, dude died real fast, nice.

verbal thistle
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so its always on CD

raven mountain
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And the fact that it goes off warpfire ticks and not just burn (or was it bleed?) makes it reliably proc.

pale prairie
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In a 25 min match that’s like 100 activations on elites

gentle crag
raven mountain
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And the KF burst will one-shot a bunch of mid-level elites.

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It's just nice all around.

strong gulch
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How else am I gonna get that boss kill credit??

Thanks KF. Yes, I was me to killed the Cspawn.

rancid jasper
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I might be making stuff up but it seems helpful to proc perilous combustion

raven mountain
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It does.

pale prairie
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Teach me your ways potato

gray juniper
raven mountain
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^ Or pick one and use it for today

strong gulch
gray juniper
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Snuggle gear with innate blessings loregryn loregryn loregryn

ripe obsidian
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Back in my day, it was always on CD because it also targeted trash mobs.

pale prairie
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The Beans YEARN FOR THE NET

radiant frigate
strong gulch
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Back in my day, we KF'd the DH.

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
pale prairie
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That actually brings up a question I have. @radiant frigate before the FGS what were you a cultist of?

gentle crag
patent jacinth
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They were always an FGS cultist

ripe obsidian
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Probably a cultist working on summoning rituals for the FGS

patent jacinth
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Long before it was announced

radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
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The summoning rituals succeeded

pale prairie
strong gulch
radiant frigate
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i figured if i post "force greatsword when?" enough times, it would eventually appear

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it has some parts of how i envisioned it

pale prairie
radiant frigate
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and relic blade has another

strong gulch
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Like, there's always something to learn.

radiant frigate
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i love both

pale prairie
gentle crag
strong gulch
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Especially since you never know what the game is gonna do after a patch. 😭

gray juniper
pale prairie
pale prairie
radiant frigate
radiant frigate
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basically it's a toggle much like relic blade that makes it more killy and works off of peril

radiant frigate
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warp slice is finally relevant

gentle crag
gray juniper
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Not even going to pretend otherwise. The first game of heresy I played there was a daemonhost at the start. Had no idea what it was and started attacking it. Somehow managed to dodge and swipe it enough while a thammer zealot was on the team thankfully

polar crypt
# gentle crag Yeah for sure, crafting for instance I'm trying to wrap my head around it 😅

crafting is simple:

  1. find weapon with the RIGHT max stats, which means usually one 'dump stat' is 60%, like mobility on many melee weapons
  2. empower first to 500 so its stats are capped out
  3. consecrate to raise its rarity to maximum
  4. refine the right perks onto it (see here in the pins or read a guide)
  5. bless the right blessings onto it (see here in the pins or read a guide)

you now have a perfect weapon for any difficulty

strong gulch
strong gulch
pale prairie
radiant frigate
gentle crag
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Noted noted, I can't just grab a grey weapon go on with that right?

pale prairie
gentle crag
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I'd have to check the vendor for greens and stuff.

gray juniper
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Also let the record state that a hexbound tried to vibe check us in peak havoc but potato, sin and myself slap chopped it in about 10 seconds

radiant frigate
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btw armed hellbombs will explode prematurely if shot sufficiently

gray juniper
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Major credit to potato and sin on that. Never seen one die so fast

strong gulch
radiant frigate
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or check armory for a base with the "right" stats if low on inquisibucks

pale prairie
gray juniper
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Otherworldly ominous screeching
Nope
Water spritz
Shrivels

pale prairie
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This was before the reworked it lmao

gray juniper
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You have to heavy 1-2 everything

pale prairie
pale prairie
cedar pagoda
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what should I run with the trauma staff

raven mountain
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Dueling sword. Good mobility stick since trauma handles about everything else, other than maybe monsters.

pale prairie
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And DS handles monsters

pale prairie
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Blazing spirit and warp nexus with unyielding and carapace

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That’s my preference

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Warp resistance dump stat

ripe obsidian
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Welp, an Arbitrator just killed me by pushing a poxburster with their dog that I'd already pushed away from me.

pale prairie
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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That's like the third burster their dogs have blown up on me this game. I survived the first two

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I've already had to clutch twice. I'm feelin' a bit salty.

gray juniper
pale prairie
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There needs to be some kind of PSA that UNNETTING TAKES LIKE 2 sec

gray juniper
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Sorry you weren’t the main character

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Arbies be like “ha. Scrub. Sucks for you”
Gets ledged 5 secs later

pale prairie
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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Is okay. Just frustrating to lose like that

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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If it'd been my fault, sure. But I got friendly fired by the Arby's dog

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I am taking a break for a bit.

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That game tilted me

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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Also might not have tilted me if it wasn't like 6 losses in a row, or if I hadn't saved that same Arby like 3 or 4 times

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Ah well.

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Life goes on.

pale prairie
pale prairie
long wharf
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oof

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yeah that sucks

pale prairie
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Apparently the whole match had barrel explosions and other friendly fire stuff like that just normal pubs

long wharf
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we need a "Heel" command, that prevents the dog from moving too far away from us

pale prairie
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😔

fresh reef
long wharf
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Chat, does he know that if you tell the dog to attack a target, there's no way to tell it to stop prematurely?

gray juniper
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Or maybe I’m misunderstanding this. The push wasn’t intentional/conscious?

hearty wolf
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I would come play, simple for redemption arc

fresh reef
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
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Yes but

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🔪

gray juniper
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Troopah

ripe obsidian
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The 3am knife?

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Are you cooking? Stabbing someone?

pale prairie
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Yeah I have no idea. feels vaguely threatening

gray juniper
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This means
“GEDIN DERE EN MAKUM SKREEAM!”

pale prairie
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Ah so he wants a knife Ogryn?

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Does anyone else find it funny how fucking effective knife Ogryn is? Crazy killing power

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I mean it is a knife the size of a normal person but still

cloud flint
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Played so much Psyker today that I got a migraine

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Forgot to quell

shrewd comet
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for a gun psyker, is it better to run 3 stam + 2x toughness curios?

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or 3x toughness?

ripe obsidian
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Either is fine. I personally do not care for stamina curios on Psyker. At least one person who plays a lot of gunker does use 2x toughness, 1x stamina.

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Is preference

shrewd comet
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capisce! what perks do you run, Six?

ripe obsidian
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For curios? I use 2x toughess, 1x health, then for minor bonuses I use 3x toughness, 3x gunner resist, 3x cdr/health

thorn cedar
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if youre using kinetic deflection then the extra stam trivializes block cost

shrewd comet
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reason im asking is because im debating dropping resists for revive speed, but i dont like using duelist sword, so im not entirely mobile

thorn cedar
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which is why i do it

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but also i just like stamina

shrewd comet
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i do use kinetic deflection

ripe obsidian
shrewd comet
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i use FGS for boss chunking >_<

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and crusher deletion

ripe obsidian
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Then stamina would make more sense on a curio

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Is because Kinetic Deflection calculates block cost based on % of max stamina the attack would cost to block. So if an attack would cost, let's say, 50% of your maximum stamina, that is then divided by 4 to become 12.5% peril gen

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If you go from 3 stamina bars to 6, that's now 25% of maximum stamina from 50%, which is 6.25% peril generation

vague musk
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funny lightning

golden mica
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autogun or recon lasgun for learning gunker gameplay?

pale prairie
pale prairie
weary idol
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or laspistol

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vraks is better damage but short range and has recoil

pale prairie
weary idol
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yeah

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vraks infantry autogun used to be the columnus

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but the columnus is now the middle one (the bad one)

pale prairie
#

Had the same name for years and then they change it

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VoidSTRIKE voidBLAST

weary idol
#

yeah

ripe obsidian
#

TIL the explosive charge in the carnival maps can kill you

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

It took me from 100 > 0

pale prairie
#

That’s why it’s funny to brace Ogryn shield in front of it to get rocked a little bit

pale prairie
#

So much for shaped charge

vague musk
pale prairie
vague musk
gray juniper
#

30 minutes of what?

pale prairie
#

Holding LMB

ripe obsidian
#

Tox gas is, pardon the pun, a plague

vague musk
rancid jasper
#

why does the armoury exchange never have voidblasts ;-;

pale prairie
vague musk
pale prairie
gray juniper
gray juniper
vague musk
#

so a lot of the time rot armor

gray juniper
#

Most matches are 20 minutes

bitter silo
#

Im trying to level Psyker right now and it just plays so different, i've got assail VS and a greatsword and when a horde of gunners show up slightly spread out i feel crazy useless. Assail also takes too long to target/kill so i just melt, what am i getting wrong with Psyker

gray juniper
#

What level are you currently?

bitter silo
#

like 15

vague musk
gray juniper
#

Toughness regeneration, reduction and better damage are attained through talent points. Before level 30 you’ll have to make careful decisions on what the talent usage looks like and if they work together to synergize

#

Check the pins for psyker talent explanations

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You can take the easier way out and use assail until level 30 to likely level up faster or trudge more by taking things on the left side of the tree. Either is recommended

agile ore
#

Ello. Im planning to make a psyker character for the first time, and I was wondering if yall would give me some advice on how to play this class, and maybe some tips in starting off my build for one?

ripe obsidian
#

Use the Assail blitz until level 30

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Psyker is rough to level up

#

Assail is your most reliable form of damage for a while

bitter silo
#

Also how are you meant to use VS cuz its just a wet noodle that makes me explode right now

gray juniper
#

The right side and using a gun with assail will get you to 30 faster. The left side will teach you staff and class mechanic fundamentals better

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Because it’s not one of the best staves and if you look at the stats on the staff you’ll likely see that warp resistance and quell speed are very low on starting weapons

ripe obsidian
#

Alas. Almost had a 0 damage Shriek H40, but got bullied by a Pogryn and the melee twin.

fluid knot
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

We did win. Was a decent game.

gray juniper
#

I just want this stupid dog penance done so I can stop using this garbage blitz

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

1236 is better. Is mathier

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1x2x3=6. 1+2+3=6

strong gulch
deft stump
#

Stares at Beans.

strong gulch
#

Oops was scrolling through gifs

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Guess phone really wanted that one.

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Idk how it's relevant to "what did I do".

deft stump
pale prairie
#

Normal Karien things

agile ore
#

If yall were to recommend me a build to start off with, what would it look like?

deft stump
#

If VERY, go Assail asap.

pale prairie
agile ore
pale prairie
#

Once you get to 30 then you can start making some fun stuff

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Until 30 psyker is kind of tough cause they are so dependent on talents

deft stump
#

I need to make a saner ver of that assail build.

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Would be easy to start with for learning basic peril management.

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Also teaches melee shit cos Assail won't deal with cara.

pale prairie
#

What

deft stump
#

Should I remake the silly Assail build with a saner ranged and curios?

pale prairie
deft stump
#

Because It's simple when I just wanna slack no think lower diffs.

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Or when running a fever.

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_> I should maybe just Arby at that point.

pale prairie
gray juniper
#

Kitty is right up on me but being hella mean about touching her. Only cat things

deft stump
deft stump
gray juniper
deft stump
pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
deft stump
#

That was last night. Probably caught something at the hospital. Am okay now.

pale prairie
deft stump
#

You get really derpy gameplay though.

pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
deft stump
#

Extreme delays since 300 ping+ fever fog.

rancid jasper
deft stump
#

Just buy greys till you get a good one.

pale prairie
rancid jasper
rancid jasper
pale prairie
rancid jasper
#

im ngl i just name them after fortnite rarities. i dont even play fortnite lol

pale prairie
#

Like I dropped 300000 to get the right shield I wanted yesterday. But I am notoriously unlucky

deft stump
#

Just use colours.

#

I never get what I want. Then 1 mil god roll plasma.

#

That I never use.

pale prairie
#

I don’t know if that’s sad or lucky

rancid jasper
deft stump
#

I was rolling cos mortis was ded and had no ppl.

pale prairie
agile ore
rancid jasper
pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
#

Then you can go for whatever looks interesting further down but the priority is leveling up

ripe obsidian
deft stump
#

Just use a gun instead of staff.

gray juniper
# rancid jasper i wouldve though quell speed would be dump stat also?

No it’s warp resistance because: 1. in conjunction with a few talents you’re likely to take, high peril increases damage 2. At higher difficulties, most will take empyric resolve which lowers peril anyway 3. With practice you won’t need to worry about peril build up as much 4. Quietude benefits from more peril

agile ore
#

Interesting

deft stump
#

And use Toughness/hp curios.

pale prairie
deft stump
#

Everything else is fine.

#

Roll more toughness or hp for sub stats on curios.

gray juniper
plucky flax
gray juniper
plucky flax
#

Karien is on a higher thinking plane.

#

You needn't understand her.

deft stump
pale prairie
deft stump
#

The master gastlighter shows up.

pale prairie
#

I still have no idea what you’re talking about but it’s not for me to know

#

@ripe obsidian right around when you got your havoc 40 win I went 0 for 2 in my MOBA so please six take back your luck

ripe obsidian
#

I have spread my luck among ye like a plague. It infects you. Lives within you.

#

Feel it curdle your insides.

pale prairie
#

I can feel the Six’s blessing

gray juniper
plucky flax
deft stump
plucky flax
#

Not me.

deft stump
plucky flax
#

You're so mean.

deft stump
gray juniper
plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

Rude.

gray juniper
visual phoenix
gray juniper
visual phoenix
#

So no changes then b_sunglasses

ripe obsidian
gray juniper
opal dust
#

(zap crowd)
Zealot : "Dude, stop"
(okay, stops)
(Zealot promptly gets himself killed charging into the crowd)

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(Bolt pistols gunners and snipers)
Veteran : "Dude, stop"
(okay, stops again)
(Veteran gets shotgunned, for some weird reason)

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I love this game.

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(And as a bonus, Ogryn got poxbursted into the furnace's lava pit, ragequits)

proper osprey
ripe obsidian
proper osprey
severe folio
#

guys whats the shotgun's dump stat

ripe obsidian
#

Was that just regular Auric?

severe folio
#

the double barrel that is

proper osprey
ripe obsidian
#

Probably mobility

severe folio
#

ok thanks

ripe obsidian
#

It's interesting to me that some people, myself included, say that Auric is very easy. But games like the one you just posted prove that we're, apparently, in the minority

severe folio
#

blessing and perks ?

candid temple
#

Or well, with randoms I have to babysit the team and hope at least 1 or 2 is competent as well

ripe obsidian
#

Me? I don't play auric.

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I do H40 with randoms mostly

#

Auric is not very enjoyable for me anymore

proper osprey
candid temple
#

but if you can solo auric, then I can see how it'd be easy.

proper osprey
#

its like a 20 to 80 thing

#

20 poopy 80 peak

ripe obsidian
#

I could maybe solo Auric. Have never tried. Wouldn't be too hard on Arbitrator. Not sure on other classes.

severe folio
#

wait the psyker antheneum is removed ?

ripe obsidian
#

Is very outdated

severe folio
#

;o

ripe obsidian
#

Was unpinned

severe folio
#

what blessing do i use with the double barrel shotgun

ripe obsidian
#

I think I use Scattershot and Manstopper because it's funny.

severe folio
#

huh

ripe obsidian
#

Crits = unlimited cleave

#

I don't know what's more meta. The zealot or veteran guides might have suggestions

severe folio
#

its a double barrel though

#

so its just 2 shots

ripe obsidian
proper osprey
#

that game was zealot with tac axe

ripe obsidian
# severe folio so its just 2 shots

Yeah. I think Scattershot is +crit chance on enemies hit, and manstopper is unlimited cleave on crit. So you clear a hallway with each shot

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Though I mostly use it on Weapon Spec veteran for the free reload

ripe obsidian
proper osprey
ripe obsidian
#

You guided the unwashed masses to his light

visual phoenix
proper osprey
radiant frigate
proper osprey
#

that was a pub

deft stump
candid temple
#

Panic is when i lock in.

rancid jasper
#

is Defenses a good dump stat on blaze force gs?

proper osprey
rancid jasper
tribal girder
#

Warp splitting works on assail??

radiant frigate
deft stump
jovial juniper
radiant frigate
#

don't need to spend a ton rolling

jovial juniper
deft stump
#

Absolutely.

#

Put it with the assail subnode and play shotgun with it.

#

Edge 20% with deimos if needed.

#

Or I can just burga a few blast to edge.

hard widget
#

Which blaze sword is good for what

rancid jasper
hard widget
#

Bfs marks

jovial juniper
#

Illisi is a multiple targets

#

Albeit you have to spam special

#

Force Greatsword is a generalist

hard widget
#

So between deimos and obscurus which one is better

jovial juniper
#

And a pretty good generalist

jovial juniper
hard widget
#

And how do you build bfs

jovial juniper
#

Deimos heavy poke throws targets on the ground

#

If they survive that is

jovial juniper
hard widget
#

Which perks

jovial juniper
#

Ogryn Prejudice
Carapace Unyielding

hard widget
#

Also what perks and blessings on inferno force staff

#

Rn I have blaze away and warp nexus

jovial juniper
#

Yeah

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Flak + Maniacs/CRIT chance

hard widget
#

Also voidblast staff dump is warp res right

deft stump
nocturne dust
#

for staves

plucky flax
upper sun
#

flak critchance

severe folio
#

as if one suffering isn't enough

rigid sky
#

Fwiw, FGS also can do amazing things vs single target - it really wants that attack speed talent though

hearty wolf
#

Zzz

bright summit
#

what curios do yall run on havocs(asking mainly abt primary stat)

plucky flax
#

The ogryn was so very impressed with @deft stump he said gg good zealot ty for carry

deft stump
#

_>

summer prairie
#

disabled 6 times vs 1 time, pretty clear

plucky flax
#

It was bugged I only got disabled twice.

#

The ogryn did a sneaky he joined on gg then switched to rumbler.

glacial vapor
#

That Ogryn knows the strats

deft stump
weak yoke
#

probably a dumb question , but how do i check my teammates build?

hearty wolf
#

Sut you look different

tulip kettle
tulip kettle
limpid talon
#

should i run 3 toughness in auric maelstrom or 2 and a stam

tulip kettle
#

i dont personally think stam curios are required, -IF- you are running kinetic deflector

#

and you likely should be running kinetic deflector talent

summer prairie
#

with most stave builds run stamina on your weapon instead

#

stamina curio is just way worse

limpid talon
#

okay ill swap it

plucky flax
summer marsh
#

Hard to read this thing

tulip kettle
#

its just a normal scoreboard its what they look like

upper sun
tulip kettle
#

you'll get the hang of it

summer marsh
tulip kettle
#

its read vertically and the only bit that really matters if not analysing specific sources of dmg etc is the red bit

summer marsh
#

This is joke

upper sun
tulip kettle
#

no, i was right, karien did carry through gameplay obviously, anyone can farm 700k dmg with their bleed dog and companion by stealing kills from the zealot flamer

summer marsh
#

Yeah that's true

visual phoenix
bright summit
bright summit
hearty wolf
marble crater
bright summit
#

Ah I see

#

Oh yeah I run 2 stamina 1 toughness without kinetic deflection

marble crater
bright summit
#

Also I try to not run bubble it's not that fun lol

#

Gimps my damage unless I rock the purge staff but that's not as fun

marble crater
#

In havoc? staregryn

bright summit
#

Yeah

#

There's more decision making when you play without bubble imo and also more things to do for ur psyker when you don't have bubble

hearty wolf
#

Lets play Havoc

#

RN

bright summit
#

Purge is just overpowered and also imho has a lower ceiling than other staffs so I don't play it that much

#

LMAO I'm going to bed

#

Maybe another time

hearty wolf
#

L

bright summit
#

Thank you for the message reacts I have no idea what they mean ahaha

plucky flax
hearty wolf
#

Clad doesn't like playing with me

#

So he downvotes me

#

Oh brother

#

might as well be a fucking disco

plucky flax
#

It's op cheat mod.

marble crater
#

Karryien chadgryn

plucky flax
visual phoenix
hearty wolf
#

I have wedding to go to later

#

It's cooked

plucky flax
#

Get karien to carry you.

summer marsh
hearty wolf
#

🤔

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

and now there is some other event thing from 4 -12

marble crater
deft stump
plucky flax
visual phoenix
hearty wolf
#

I took today off

#

To play Need For Speed

visual phoenix
#

Then we do some another time
Probably around weekend?

hearty wolf
#

yuh

visual phoenix
#

We need to yk
Win at least

#

Those looses were itchy

deft stump
plucky flax
summer prairie
#

anyone know the incoming/outgoing havoc maps? Ascension riser is back at least

upper sun
#

tfw no coms/patches

summer prairie
#

Relay station I guess?

upper sun
#

CIVI UP

rancid jasper
#

how much do plasteel/diamantine gains scale with difficulty if at all?

is it most efficient to just grind low difficulties for materials?

glacial vapor
#

No

#

Just play the highest you can

deft stump
glacial vapor
#

Damnation allows you a bit more time for looting than Auric

tulip kettle
#

after mael

tulip kettle
deft stump
weak yoke
hearty wolf
deft stump
hearty wolf
#

🤔

west spire
#

Looks cute.

deft stump
tulip kettle
#

we're british

#

being mean is a compliment

deft stump
deft stump
rigid moss
tulip kettle
#

nono

#

if a brit is only polite to you it means they think of you as a complete stranger

#

if a brit is indifferent towards you it means they dont like you

#

and if a brit makes fun of you it means they like you

#

theres a big difference though, between making fun and calling someone a cunt

deft stump
tulip kettle
#

if you get called the c word by anything other than a very close friend it means you REALLY pissed someone off

radiant frigate
#

new carryen just dropped

deft stump
deft stump
tulip kettle
#

indeed!

marble crater
#

Or is it?

upper sun
deft stump
hearty wolf
#

@tulip kettle

#

Begin win spree?

marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
#

No u

deft stump
earnest cobalt
#

Confused me more than the memes

tulip kettle
tulip kettle
# earnest cobalt 🤨

like, if they are polite to you they dont know you. if they act dismissive / disinterested it means they dont like you, rarely will a brit be directly rude

earnest cobalt
#

Hmm

#

What does being sarcastic fall into?

tulip kettle
#

its nuanced but generally sarcasm falls under "taking the piss"

#

and taking the piss generally falls under friendly banter

earnest cobalt
#

Lmao

tulip kettle
#

people say brits dont have culture smh

earnest cobalt
#

How is it friendly KEKW_ogryn

tulip kettle
#

as discussed, it just sort of, is

earnest cobalt
#

Most funnies shit I have heard today

tulip kettle
#

its also why barry doesnt generally like pierre

#

because pierre doesnt know how to banter

#

pierre is just rude

cobalt python
glacial vapor
#

The UK has a vibes based language. The words themselves lack the full meaning

cobalt python
#

It just ain’t ours

earnest cobalt
marble crater
#

Why are the pyramids in Egypt?
Because they didn't fit on the British ships loregryn

tulip kettle
#

nah man just like discussing here, brit culture is very language and communication based and its actually pretty alien to most who arent brits or brit-lite (aussie / canadian)

cobalt python
tulip kettle
upper sun
marble crater
#

They aren't loregryn

cobalt python
upper sun
earnest cobalt
#

We need a thinking ogryn emote

earnest cobalt
upper sun
marble crater
tulip kettle
#

to over simplify, "you cant park there" is a classic bit of british banter, said to hopefully lighten an otherwise shit situation

cobalt python
#

Hey mate

tulip kettle
#

pierre would just call you stupid for having a crash

cobalt python
#

Ya can’t fuckin park there

tulip kettle
#

and hans would say "yes i know, i crashed"

pale prairie
#

And Sven would say “it’s a bike…”

cobalt python
pale prairie
#

Saw a video compilation of some UK person doing that while driving by crashes and people were PISSED

cobalt python
#

That’s funny

marble crater
earnest cobalt
cobalt python
tulip kettle
#

bike wanker

earnest cobalt
#

It doesnt give off a feeling that you are confused/didnt get it and want to learn

earnest cobalt
#

Yes

cobalt python
earnest cobalt
#

Thats it

#

How the hell I didnt see it

#

Looks like Im blind now

tulip kettle
pale prairie
hearty wolf
#

Are you still in one

marble crater
#

In a shower? staregryn

hearty wolf
#

Yuh

tulip kettle
cobalt python
hearty wolf
#

I'm too fucking fat

#

These trousers are killing me

late sapphire
#

That's why they are in germany

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

Pc booting

tulip kettle
#

np we waiting

#

am i about to see zealot gameplay pogryn

tulip kettle
#

havoc 40 btw

#

20 mins

visual phoenix
radiant frigate
#

rare elara sighting?

severe folio
#

i think i felt the effect of wildfire today

#

it was a power out modifier and it was completely dark, but the enemy got lighted up

#

and because theres so many enemy died with max warpfire, wildfire transfer all around the stacks into much more than 4 warpfire per enemy

#

and because of it, my purgatus has a sort of "extended" range of effect

#

especially against enemies that doesnt flow towards me but my teammates instead

pale prairie
severe folio
#

during bits and bits of enemies it doesnt do much, but during big waves its def spreading the fire to where i am not aiming, and most importantly enemies that are running to my teammates instead

deft stump
#

If you mean that one map.

severe folio
#

a single enemy dying from warp fire dont give anything, but a whole group of them does means another group got light up in full stacks

pale prairie
visual phoenix
#

Vent does 6

candid temple
severe folio
#

yes it is

#

its 4 stacks spread from 1 enemy death

#

but in a horde situation, its not 1 enemy death, its multiple of them

visual phoenix
#

1 stack each up to cap of 4

visual phoenix
#

I barely notice it

severe folio
#

and an enemy that receive wildfire from 1 death enemy can still receive wildfire from another death enemy

#

so in essence its like

#

20 death enemy will transfer >16 stacks of warpfire to about <20 more enemy

visual phoenix
#

Its a funny node

#

I want wildfire to spread

#

Yet i press vent

#

Boom

#

0 value

#

Wildfire doing just nothing

severe folio
#

well it is most effective when after you press vent and there are still enemies around

#

if you press vent and everything in front of you or around you is dead

#

then yeah, nowhere for wildfire to go

hearty wolf
#

But that build had thammer on it

#

Was MISERABLE

visual phoenix
#

Its like useful in like... Speedrun scenario? Where i skip half of the enemies i gues

hearty wolf
#

Tried to hit a chaos spawn about 36 times

radiant frigate
severe folio
#

not really actually

tulip kettle
#

getting hyped for a bop

thorn cedar
#

I think Wildfire is okay but there is a strange and mostly theoretical level of admiration for it in this chat that I don't understand.

severe folio
#

its especially not useful in speedrun scenario

tulip kettle
#

squeaky hammer noise

hearty wolf
#

Then tried eviscerator and remembered why it was dogshit

radiant frigate
#

wot

#

evis is bad?

pale prairie
visual phoenix
#

Its still a damage ability, but thats suuuch a low profit

tulip kettle
#

they just move a lot and you are slow

hearty wolf
severe folio
hearty wolf
#

With a decent team anyway

tulip kettle
#

if you dont have chastise to dash for the attack

pale prairie
#

Ahhhhh

radiant frigate
#

fuck wildfire all my homies hate wildfire

tulip kettle
#

and then even if you do hit it

#

it does like 1/5th the bosses hp

hearty wolf
#

Because the special's damage is backloaded, so by the time you're half way through sawing something, it's dead because the Ogryn pressed m1, twice

severe folio
#

but the recent event with all those annoying toxin enemy

hearty wolf
#

You have to use Thammer with FOTF so you can dash during the charge up or else you just can't hit things

candid temple
#

I wish I could enjoy eviscerators sadKEK

severe folio
#

meaning its not quite safe to just run into the horde unless you want your toughness to be shred to piece

radiant frigate
#

ogryn nerfs when

hearty wolf
#

But I was using book

tulip kettle
#

and ngl wildfire is value for simply for the KF interaction in 40

severe folio
#

i notice that i was killing things i didnt blow my purgatus towards