psyker-class

[ripe obsidian]

Kuli's mechanics guides:

Psyker Talents & Mechanics - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505
Melee Weapon Blessings & Mechanics - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3286161222
Ranged Weapon Blessings & Mechanics - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3293278399
Curios, Stimms, Difficulty Mutators, Player Debuffs & Mechanics - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3318538305
Enemy Stats & Mechanics
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

Combine00's Havoc Modifiers Guide - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

[ripe obsidian]

<@&735928989146939404> Could you pin this message, please?

[strong gulch]

Thanks

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you.

[fluid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/senshi-delicious-in-dungeon-dungeon-meshi-anime-studio-trigger-gif-13377781023860006167

[ripe obsidian]

I'm gonna remove those embeds, just because they take up too much space.

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/spacecore-space-portal-core-gif-5586787

[ripe obsidian]

I just don't want to monopolize space in the pins. Gotta make it easier to navigate

[strong gulch]

Pins on mobile is... a time

Oh, there was 80% more to this post that the pin let on. ok

[pale prairie]

hmmmm do i grab Wildfire at the cost of 15 toughness on my EK build

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-pepe-think-pepe-the-frog-wojak-gif-13571840648507225174

[ripe obsidian]

It should be okay now. Or, it looks okay to me

[polar crypt]

sometimes the embeds gotta go

[ripe obsidian]

This is what I see, at least.

[strong gulch]

Yeah all good

[ripe obsidian]

I do not use Wildfire on EK currently. Worth trying. See how it feels.

[pale prairie]

I am doing Pubs Auric so I doubt i'll notice a big difference. I am shrieking alot though and wondering if I can get more fire this way

[strong gulch]

I use wildfire on my EK build in aurics, but I don't in havocs because shooters are too scary. So I take EE instead. 😭

[marble crater]

Speak for yourself, I don't even know who Kuli is

[strong gulch]

Wildfire on something like sniper vent purge is funny tho. Snipers just keep randomly dying. Pure skill for sure.

[gray juniper]

According to Kuli’s guide, none of them proc on alt weapon except the ones already known like uncanny strike. This may make uncanny and unstable the strongest all rounder blessings between greatsword and babby sword

[strong gulch]

Babby sword is my head cannon now.

[cedar pagoda]

does meelee crit hit chance stack

[strong gulch]

Yes

[vague musk]

what should I change on my crowd control/anti hoard build

[brazen rampart]

All of it.

[vague musk]

why

[brazen rampart]

Too much investment in smite aux nodes, battle meditation isn't worth taking, crystalline will is way, way overkill because you literally can't pop yourself with smite and you have shriek on top of that, and you took left side EP instead of EP on elite kills.

You also pathed to the right for mind in motion instead of to the left for psykinetic's aura.

[marble crater]

@strong gulch

[brazen rampart]

Also that middle node on EP isn't worth taking.

[vague musk]

wait you cant get knocked by smite? didnt know that

[brazen rampart]

Well, you can, but right click smite auto vents when you hit 100%.

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-intentional-steelo-brim-ridiculousness-that-was-on-purpose-you-meant-to-do-that-gif-17395517

[brazen rampart]

Left click smite can still pop you.

[marble crater]

You can but it actually takes effort to do it

[gray juniper]

Yes. This is like a bumper car build. All these safety measures for something that’s not perilous in the first place

[mighty agate]

And hes WOOOW

[gray juniper]

Gotta learn to quell manually broski

[vague musk]

ah alright, thats all i use anyways

[brazen rampart]

I would personally just not use smite because assail is so much better.

[marble crater]

I saved him, running closer would have damaged him more

[vague musk]

nah smite is amazing for large hoards

[brazen rampart]

The only thing smite does that assail doesnt do is kill carapace.

[strong gulch]

That trapper was gonna get em. You did save em.

[brazen rampart]

Assail will take an entire pack of 30 shotgunners and delete them in 1/4th the time that smite would.

Even faster with PC involved.

[vague musk]

does perilous combustion and wildfire stack well

[brazen rampart]

Wildfire is iffy because of mixed opinions on it, I think its worthless as a talent, but others like it.

PC stacks upon itself.

[marble crater]

Honestly I just wanted to bully the trapper, I'm always up for shenanigans when there is nothing happening

[vague musk]

smite stuns (plus doesnt need to recharge), which is really helpful with the rot armor event

[brazen rampart]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

Smite kills carapace, albeit, slowly.

Assail will hit carapace and dink off it for like 4 damage.

[vague musk]

I feel like it would be good with creeping flames

[cedar pagoda]

I swear i have no idea how people mae builds I only under see heretic and shoot heretic

[brazen rampart]

On paper, it is!

In practice, no.

[marble crater]

you would never guess it was chaos just 2 seconds before

[strong gulch]

There's staff builds in the 3rd pin.

[gray juniper]

Elementary lessons; don’t run directly towards burning barrels

[vague musk]

I'm guessing doesn't do enough damage

[brazen rampart]

Creeping flames is going to kill anything that isn't an elite on its own once you hit whatever the threshold is. (I think it's 64%?)

[marble crater]

Used to be 2nd pin, how times have changed...

[brazen rampart]

So anything stacking above that is worthless vs chaff.

[cedar pagoda]

i did some testing nope

[mighty agate]

The best for cc is VoidBLAST staff

so smite is not needed

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is good in its relevent builds but will not break a build by not taking it.

[strong gulch]

ye

[cedar pagoda]

it will kill carapace enemies but you gotta dump alot of assail

[strong gulch]

Don't assail cara.

[brazen rampart]

If I have to boot darktide right now and install creature spawner just to get dd stacks in psykhanium and throw darts at crushers to tell you you're wrong then I'm going to throw rocks through your window.

[tulip kettle]

apart from this only applies in non havoc

in havoc 6 stacks not enough to even kill trash often

[marble crater]

Assail Cara ❌
Assault Cara ✅

[vague musk]

anyways, imma go play an auric then complain that i die quickly depsite taking the node that makes me weak

[cedar pagoda]

i tested it on scab ragers

[ripe obsidian]

83.5%

[cedar pagoda]

took like 6 shards

[brazen rampart]

"Havoc breakpoints" are a funny term.

[brazen rampart]

Scab ragers have flak heads.

Assail targets heads.

[tulip kettle]

assail does like 4 dmg to cara yes, its useless

[brazen rampart]

Go throw darts at maulers and crushers.

They have carapace heads.

[cedar pagoda]

alr fair

[tulip kettle]

and wht do you mean?

[brazen rampart]

Why did I think 64% then?

[brazen rampart]

Havoc and breakpoints are kind of mutually exclusive terms.

[tulip kettle]

ha i see what you mean

[brazen rampart]

You cant hit a creeping flames bp vs chaff, is what I mean.

[strong gulch]

Assail usually hits heads and scab rager heads are not cara. The chest is cara; except DoTs ignore that.

Maulers heads and crushers tho... assail to them for damage is sos

[gray juniper]

Friend, it’s not. Using shriek is redundant for the same purpose. It will hold a lot while:
-not covering your back and still having a cap that won’t cover you 360 especially from gunners at mid and long range
-it sucks up all your peril economy then forces you to quell whether it killed everything you needed to or not
-in higher difficulties killing becomes less probable and final toll makes it useless
-rampaging enemies and blight spreads increases hit mass so smite spreads much less

[tulip kettle]

yes i agree, wildfire very much worth it in havoc with creeping flames though

6 stacks poopy, 10 stacks good

[strong gulch]

Get to 31 faster

[tulip kettle]

its all im chasing most games

looking for them 31's

[strong gulch]

lmao yes

[thorn cedar]

im here to kick ass and maximize my perfectionist DD stacks
and im all maxed out on stacks

[brazen rampart]

Pretty sure smite doesn't care about hitmass.

Assail doesn't, either.

[thorn cedar]

it do

its a fucken mess of code

[brazen rampart]

I know assail doesn't. It just has a set amount of targets it can pierce.

[gray juniper]

Then what determines the assail and target cleave?

[thorn cedar]

the difference isnt massively significant but when you multiply it by 100 targets, it adds up

[brazen rampart]

There's a chart floating around somewhere, pretty sure Kuli made it.

[gray juniper]

Ok

Oh*

[brazen rampart]

On that chart is assail with all the things that affect cleave for it.

[strong gulch]

OH RIGHT

Yeah perils needs to be 83.5% or higher for the max of 6 SB stacks. BUT it's recommended on default UI to get to 85% because the % rounds up. 84% could actually be below the needed 83.5%.

[cedar pagoda]

is Shred with uncanny strike good

[strong gulch]

For the most part, yes.

[cedar pagoda]

I have been stuck at the karnak twins for 2 days imma actually loose it

[brazen rampart]

Slaughterer better, assuming you're using 1h force sword.

Or if you're constantly edging peril, unstable power.

Strength is a flat 1:1 ratio of strength to damage.

[strong gulch]

Depends on the melee and how it's used.

Generally , uncanny is the anchor blessing if the melee can take it.

Illisi is an exception to this, but that is not generally used.

[cedar pagoda]

trying a light attack build

[cedar pagoda]

I found it better due the swing speed but I dunno

[brazen rampart]

Ok? That doesn't change what is and isn't good.

[cedar pagoda]

I wont have to edge peril as much

thats what am saying

[strong gulch]

You allowed to like something better. Slaughter is the anchor blessing for illisi.

[cedar pagoda]

alr imma give it a try

[strong gulch]

Delayed thought, but just fyi strength is damage, stagger and cleave.

edit: Wanted to add that if you see power, that's the old name for strength

[vague musk]

my sword, purely because of gunners + I use dodge to move a lot

[pale prairie]

It feels like chaff was easier to deal with because by the time they got in melee one swing of sword was good enough to kill some of them. I dunno. I don't have fancy scoreboard breakdown.

[brazen rampart]

At this point just play gunker and abuse EE.

[gray juniper]

Yea

Fast melee weapons and headshots are enough to rely on EE

But inferno staff is OP because you can have shotgunners each try their shot in your and dodge in place as long as you time the secondary attack right

[vague musk]

i already use my laspistol more then my melee

[brazen rampart]

You don't have EE on your smite build though.

No way to abuse it if you don't have it.

[vernal temple]

Brunt's shop is cooking today. Got a 430 rating 17% Toughness

and a few hours before that a 420 rating 21% HP

[mighty agate]

Then for me the only 430 curio on psyker is a +1 wounds

[silk pebble]

Just finished leveling psyker to 30 and decided to yolo jump into havok 40. 10/10 experience

[raven mountain]

idk why people even consider carapace with assail. If there's a train, you deal with them another way, but there's a lot of enemies it does work into, and you can even slide to the side and throw it at enemies behind armor before you directly engage the armor. It's still good in Rotten Armor modifier because there -are- normal enemies on the map. You just have be ready to throw down at a moment's notice.

[vague musk]

If I see a group of crushers, I just smite and wait for a zealot to take care of them :^)

[pale prairie]

I just EK and laugh as they dance explode and catch everything on fire

[raven mountain]

Why? They usually do absolutely nothing.

Just solve problems yourself.

[gray juniper]

Enter a match with 3 psykers. One guy smyking his ass off at level start, angers daemonhost, kills him in 2 seconds, next guy dies one second after

[pale prairie]

lmao i played with a psyker today and the guy must have gone done like 5 times

feel bad for him

[raven mountain]

Outside of FotF, you'll do it just as fast as they do, and you don't have to hope that they're good enough to bother doing it.

[gray juniper]

Smyking can actually make it a little more difficult to get aim on the head with thunder hammer because I’m not used to them shaking like that when lining it up

Also if it happens right as I’m lining up the hit

[raven mountain]

That too! I honestly hate dealing with a smyker because the enemies are all over the place. Dogs and break the line do similar shit

[pale prairie]

Thought of you though zealot today in my ogryn match thunderhammered the shit out of a boss. Its been a while since i have seen that

[raven mountain]

Hard to stab their face when they are facedown on the floor.

[gentle crag]

Guys I'm new and stupid, is brain burst a good skill to build around for?

[patent jacinth]

No

Unless you want to do a penance

[raven mountain]

Build around assail. Get all your skill points, then play with all the toys.

[gentle crag]

Ah damb, I like brain burst but its not that good eh?

[patent jacinth]

Yeah

Too slow

[raven mountain]

It can be used, but it's finnicky and low returns compared to the effort you put in.

[pale prairie]

not really. people usually grab it to get the upgrade for it called Kinetic Flayer (Automatic Brain Burst on an elite enemy you hit once every 15 sec. 10% chance to activate on hit)

[patent jacinth]

Even with buffs you could just shoot the problem faster like 90% of the time

[raven mountain]

Like, you can go EP and all the BB nodes, and just kinda trash your way through a bunch of gunners and shotgunners

[weary idol]

one maelstrom but it felt like days

[raven mountain]

But then if you miss an elite, things start to go poorly.

[gray juniper]

It’s good you have an affinity for it as a beginner, because it has a place later on. In ‘end game’ difficulties, the purpose of brain burst is uncommonly used tool on short range META builds for inferno + bubble builds

[pale prairie]

you can probably make it work in lower difficulties. might be a little more skill invovled in damnation and Aurics. Just go EP node and grab bubble or something to give you a safe place to use it

[raven mountain]

Wall and shriek are probably better than bubble.

[weary idol]

it's not good to actively use

[radiant frigate]

i am a wall denier

bubble good though

[pale prairie]

bro you haven't been seen here for weeks

[weary idol]

But Kinetic Flayer is good passive damage

[raven mountain]

Wall gets two charges and lets you empower BB harder.

And shriek is a shorter cooldown and lets you have additional horde clear.

[radiant frigate]

oh i was not aware we're talking specifically about empowering BB

[pale prairie]

I don't like wall because in hectic fights i don't usually have the brain capacity to expertly place them for maximum protection

[polar crypt]

power DI, huh? it seems like there's a schism between, power DI and scoreboard... I can't tell which is better since both of them seem kinda limited

[raven mountain]

Yeah, but with BB, it's not about big brain wall placement, it's about making bursts go boom.

[gray juniper]

@gentle crag other than that, brain burst costs high peril to cast, limited damage and slow cast time so there’s many other tools that outperform it in value in regards to staves and melee tools

[raven mountain]

Unless you have EP, which makes it cost 0.

[patent jacinth]

It is however a valid pathing for Psykinetics aura

[raven mountain]

And if you kill an elite with EP, you get another EP. So you can kinda chain them infinitely for free.

[pale prairie]

For all its downsides it should be a guaranteed one shot on enemies

[patent jacinth]

No

[polar crypt]

it already has a weird damage type doesn't it

[patent jacinth]

You can juice its cast time too high for that to be balanced

[polar crypt]

it already does like very very high damage

to anything

[patent jacinth]

Kill flags on some enemies I agree with

No all

[pale prairie]

How many can you cast in one activation of EP?

[raven mountain]

Wait, you mean having to shoot a crusher 3-5 times is very high damage?

[raven mountain]

1 per charge of EP, but you also generate EP charges on elite kill.

[patent jacinth]

EP doesn't have an activation its a stack count

[raven mountain]

So you can kill an infinite number of gunners with 0 peril

[pale prairie]

Jesus I haven’t used that in so long

[weary idol]

I just think power DI looks prettier

[gentle crag]

Ok I'm convinced, I'll move away from brain burst, any other stuff to recommend as in builds, weapon combos?

[raven mountain]

Power DI has some more detailed options, like I think you can look at more distinct damage types, but scoreboard is a nice all-in-one snapshot, especially with some of the mods that give you better info.

[pale prairie]

Brain burst how long is the cast time?

[patent jacinth]

You can probably kill like 10+ crushers within 10 seconds if it could oneshot anything

[pale prairie]

Like empowered is it like 1 second?

[patent jacinth]

And with minimal effort

[pale prairie]

Great you killed those 10 crushers now what about the maulers and the chaff?

Or heaven forbid the gunner squad

[polar crypt]

I mean, I dunno, it seems fair to me, it one-shots everything smaller than a mauler or crusher right

[patent jacinth]

perilous combustion

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[polar crypt]

there are many weapons that can't one-shot just any special, and on top of this, many that have to make tradeoffs between perks to get to one-shot breakpoints, so I dunno, it feels like brain burst fits that template to me

[pale prairie]

I dunno it feels like in high density games that even 10 bulwarks in 10 seconds isn’t amazing

[raven mountain]

Level with assail. It's strong and easy to use. Check out the Force Greatsword, the dueling sword mark4, the m3? combat blade, and the Illisi and Deimos force swords.

For guns, bolt pistol, reconlasgun, inferno staff, voidblast staff, and EK stack.

[patent jacinth]

10 bulwarks in 10 seconds is insane what

[polar crypt]

it's not so bad given it costs 0 ammo and can be done at any range

you also don't have to aim or anything

there's no conditions there

[glass marlin]

Reee

[pale prairie]

I just did a match with over 250+ carapace enemies from the event

[patent jacinth]

How long was it

[pale prairie]

26 min

[raven mountain]

Like, I'm not saying BB is busted, but if you are specced for it, have EP+its speed mods, it does some solid work, especially into sub-mauler tier enemies.

Fast and spreads burning nicely.

Like EK fast

[polar crypt]

yeah similarly I am also not saying it is 'the best ability ever in the game'

but I think it has its place

[gentle crag]

I'm already lvl 30 and doing Malice, but I'm kinda lost as to what I should do, like craft stuff?

[polar crypt]

imo the argument could be made too for like, per-map situational niche

there are some maps where there are tons of wide open spaces where long distant enemies, can mess with you and if you're taking like inferno staff or something you can't do much about that

[raven mountain]

You're looking to find a playstyle you enjoy. Check out builds, play with new stuff. You're also probably looking to get better at the game, so think about how you can improve in situations as you play, like what you should have done or could have done.

[ripe obsidian]

@verbal thistle has rejected me. D:

[verbal thistle]

didnt want a purg

[pale prairie]

Like I do something similar with EK perilous combustion, wildfire, and even vent shriek flames and I still had dudes up in my grill with two casts per crusher kill.

[raven mountain]

And as far as gear goes, there's a bunch of guides as to what you want in stats

[ripe obsidian]

That's fair

I'm mostly being dramatic

[raven mountain]

Yeah, I don't think anyone is saying to use it on crushers. That's silly.

Stab them in the face.

[polar crypt]

oh that's cute, yeah what the above guy said, figure out what you like, what you want to do, what classes you want to play, what builds you might want to do
right this second, you can find good TALENT builds to run here, and then, look at weapons

right now, you're level 30, time to throw your levelling talent tree in the trash and build something good

[ripe obsidian]

oh, oops

[pale prairie]

No I was saying it should one shot enemies with its cast time. BUT EP does make that dicey balance wise

[ripe obsidian]

thought that was a different match, did not mean to request a join a second time

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-silly-silly-cat-stare-gif-17130425485948020000

[rancid jasper]

I'm running a brain burst build with bolstered shield and both speed buffs and it does work, although I am not a high difficulty/meta player

Nice damage against mauler groups if you have all the buffs

[patent jacinth]

Ok so I looked up the base charge time and if BB could oneshot everything then you could kill an elite every 1.5 (?) seconds for free

[ripe obsidian]

You changed characters, thought it was someone else!

[gentle crag]

Yeah I think I'll try a better build and stuff, I like the idea of using staves too.

[raven mountain]

I do think BB should be an assured kill on non-ogryn, non-mauler, and maybe unarmored rager.

[pale prairie]

Yeah that’s strong probably op in lower difficulties to have its damage increased but in higher ones I dunno

[patent jacinth]

Its still insane in higher difficulties

1 crusher every 1.5 seconds is faster than anything in the game

[gray juniper]

The others provided valid advice and information on what it does also. What raven said is also true. Using things carefully thought out builds can make it more viable, but it also takes a lot of practice and conscious use to work together
Brain burst itself isn’t bad I I’d use it semi frequently in havocs to help clear far gunners as long as nothing else is going on up close

[patent jacinth]

I think

Stupid shit like thrust DS might be faster

[strong gulch]

BB without buffs doesn't one shot dogs, dreg gunner, and ragers (plus the bigger things of course).

I do enjoy BB, but yeah it needs some work.

[weary idol]

I think an MMF Helbore vet with max stacked weight of fire would be faster

[gray juniper]

Look at it this way, at least you’re not a smyker

[weary idol]

but that's a bit of a meme build

ditto for exe bolter vet

[rancid jasper]

Depending on the size of the horde, an inferno staff soulblaze build could be faster because infinite cleave

[raven mountain]

My biggest issue with BB in higher difficulties is that if you take Shriek and EP, you aren't always gaining peril, so you can't really make good use of shriek.

[gentle crag]

Yeah I'm trying to absorb as much as I can, BB is ok but not worth to build around, its what I understood basically.

[patent jacinth]

That requires a great deal of buffing and only targets the crusher in question
Oneshot BB only would require the EP stacks for the speed and would proc PC every kill so you clear quickly

[patent jacinth]

Not against carapace

[pale prairie]

But you can absolutely build whatever you want. Just might take some practice and a bit more work than something META

[gray juniper]

It’s worth going over the kuli guides that were fortunately for you just linked in the pins today

[raven mountain]

While EP is makes sense, I wonder if DD stacks hit any special breakpoints for BB.

[rancid jasper]

Oh, why?

Does it not cleave carapace now

[patent jacinth]

Because most DoT's have bad carapace damage

[raven mountain]

Blaze does minimal damage against cara

[patent jacinth]

for obvious reasons

[raven mountain]

Like, it adds up over the course of a match and through density

[radiant frigate]

i mean there are silly things like vet reaching crusher onetaps without uncanny

[raven mountain]

but in terms of killing any one or any single train of cara, it just takes too much time.

[gray juniper]

Kinetic flayer performs a free brain burst for you every 15 seconds if you take that talent

[rancid jasper]

I love kinetic flayer but 15 seconds is kind of an annoying cd

[pale prairie]

It can be but it adds up

[raven mountain]

KF is amazing, but it's not something that you rely on in situations.

[gray juniper]

That’s moderately fast when you’re already doing a lot while a lot is going on

[verbal thistle]

it goes off burn ticks now

[raven mountain]

It's moreso just, yo, dude died real fast, nice.

[verbal thistle]

so its always on CD

[raven mountain]

And the fact that it goes off warpfire ticks and not just burn (or was it bleed?) makes it reliably proc.

[pale prairie]

In a 25 min match that’s like 100 activations on elites

[gentle crag]

Did is some giga breakdown of stuff, feels like I'm getting brain burst 🤣

[raven mountain]

And the KF burst will one-shot a bunch of mid-level elites.

It's just nice all around.

[strong gulch]

How else am I gonna get that boss kill credit??

Thanks KF. Yes, I was me to killed the Cspawn.

[rancid jasper]

I might be making stuff up but it seems helpful to proc perilous combustion

[raven mountain]

It does.

[pale prairie]

It’s amazing how you did that while netted

Teach me your ways potato

[gray juniper]

Pouring over the guides isn’t done in a day. Take the pieces you need most and read more later

[raven mountain]

^ Or pick one and use it for today

[strong gulch]

My light bright blankie makes powerful.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[gray juniper]

Snuggle gear with innate blessings

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/stuck-trapped-flip-over-stuck-on-soccer-net-help-gif-14558028

For power

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud-yelling-cloud-angry-gif-12558964

Back in my day, it was always on CD because it also targeted trash mobs.

[pale prairie]

The Beans YEARN FOR THE NET

[radiant frigate]

every 15 seconds you randomly oneshot an elite or special

[pale prairie]

God that was bad

[strong gulch]

And those clusters of 3 puss things.

Back in my day, we KF'd the DH.

[ripe obsidian]

And we liked it! [citation needed]

[strong gulch]

It wasn't at all terrifying.

[pale prairie]

That actually brings up a question I have. @radiant frigate before the FGS what were you a cultist of?

[gentle crag]

Yeah I suppose, I should look around then, thank you and everyone else for helping out ❤️

[patent jacinth]

They were always an FGS cultist

[ripe obsidian]

Probably a cultist working on summoning rituals for the FGS

[patent jacinth]

Long before it was announced

[radiant frigate]

cultist of materializing fgs

[ripe obsidian]

The summoning rituals succeeded

[pale prairie]

Well thank you for materializing my favorite psyker weapon

[strong gulch]

There's a lot of info. The game doesn't do a good job of telling players.

[radiant frigate]

i figured if i post "force greatsword when?" enough times, it would eventually appear

it has some parts of how i envisioned it

[pale prairie]

Yeah barebones tutorial

[radiant frigate]

and relic blade has another

[strong gulch]

Like, there's always something to learn.

[radiant frigate]

i love both

[pale prairie]

What’s the next weapon

[gentle crag]

Yeah for sure, crafting for instance I'm trying to wrap my head around it 😅

[strong gulch]

Especially since you never know what the game is gonna do after a patch. 😭

[gray juniper]

I like brain burst myself anyway. It has its limits but it’s also fun

[pale prairie]

I remember the first time I killed one and I was like……THATS IT?!? WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY LOOT DICE

[pale prairie]

I can’t tell if the lack of a tutorial is part of meta game roleplay or laziness

[strong gulch]

OMG RIGHT

[radiant frigate]

the next weapon is a new fgs mark with a different special

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pretty-please-begging-mike-barreras-homer-simpson-forgive-me-gif-17283846

[radiant frigate]

basically it's a toggle much like relic blade that makes it more killy and works off of peril

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-drool-gif-24799777

[radiant frigate]

warp slice is finally relevant

[gentle crag]

Yeah I like it too, but I'll try make do with other stuff and try to use it aswell.

[gray juniper]

Not even going to pretend otherwise. The first game of heresy I played there was a daemonhost at the start. Had no idea what it was and started attacking it. Somehow managed to dodge and swipe it enough while a thammer zealot was on the team thankfully

[polar crypt]

crafting is simple:

1. find weapon with the RIGHT max stats, which means usually one 'dump stat' is 60%, like mobility on many melee weapons
2. empower first to 500 so its stats are capped out
3. consecrate to raise its rarity to maximum
4. refine the right perks onto it (see here in the pins or read a guide)
5. bless the right blessings onto it (see here in the pins or read a guide)

you now have a perfect weapon for any difficulty

[strong gulch]

Valid.

Consecration = change color and get perks and blessings

Empower = stat get bigger [10/80] to [80/80]

Mastery = you can max weapons and get higher tiers of blessings

[strong gulch]

Me running up to a hellbomb in HD2 and meleeing it.

[pale prairie]

Yeah I attacked it too the first time I saw it. My VT2 experience betrayed me and I desired loot

[radiant frigate]

LOOK OUT, EXPLODING BARRE-

[gentle crag]

Noted noted, I can't just grab a grey weapon go on with that right?

[pale prairie]

You were ensuring it went off! I award you the medal of freedom…posthumously of course

[gentle crag]

I'd have to check the vendor for greens and stuff.

[gray juniper]

Also let the record state that a hexbound tried to vibe check us in peak havoc but potato, sin and myself slap chopped it in about 10 seconds

[radiant frigate]

btw armed hellbombs will explode prematurely if shot sufficiently

[gray juniper]

Major credit to potato and sin on that. Never seen one die so fast

[strong gulch]

If going for a perfect one, no. That's where the gambling is. Buy a bunch of grey until you get the right base.

[radiant frigate]

or check armory for a base with the "right" stats if low on inquisibucks

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-fight-kick-gif-13965715

[pale prairie]

My brother mained zealot thunderhammer and killed one in two bonks. It was still getting up lmao

[gray juniper]

Stud

Otherworldly ominous screeching
Nope
Water spritz
Shrivels

[pale prairie]

He hated it in hordes but it was worth for popping bosses

This was before the reworked it lmao

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-green-mile-gif-17328904180409510666

You have to heavy 1-2 everything

[pale prairie]

Yeah they fixed that cause enemy airships and enemies would destroy them before they could go off. So you had to wait 2 min to call in another one and try again

[pale prairie]

He tried knife zealot for awhile and then decided carpal tunnel and hand cramping wasnt worth the high stress stabbing dancing

[cedar pagoda]

what should I run with the trauma staff

[raven mountain]

Dueling sword. Good mobility stick since trauma handles about everything else, other than maybe monsters.

[pale prairie]

And DS handles monsters

[cedar pagoda]

no i meant like blessings

[pale prairie]

Blazing spirit and warp nexus with unyielding and carapace

That’s my preference

Warp resistance dump stat

[ripe obsidian]

Welp, an Arbitrator just killed me by pushing a poxburster with their dog that I'd already pushed away from me.

[pale prairie]

Make sure to have the wildfire and perilous combustion talents it will really help with turning the horde into a pyre to the emperor and your greatness

[pale prairie]

DAaaaaaaaaamn

[pale prairie]

If we learned anything that’s just the game being dumb. Also psyker sucks

[ripe obsidian]

That's like the third burster their dogs have blown up on me this game. I survived the first two

I've already had to clutch twice. I'm feelin' a bit salty.

[gray juniper]

This is true. Terrible game. Worse class

[pale prairie]

As you should. Today marks the 3rd time in as many days that the arbie didn’t unnet my Ogryn and just ran away to fall off the map

There needs to be some kind of PSA that UNNETTING TAKES LIKE 2 sec

[gray juniper]

Sorry you weren’t the main character

Arbies be like “ha. Scrub. Sucks for you”
Gets ledged 5 secs later

[pale prairie]

Pffff I’ve known that since high school!

[pale prairie]

Were you in the game??? Literally what happened

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-25352670

[ripe obsidian]

It ended in a loss. Bleh. I am having bad luck this week.

[pale prairie]

Woof sorry buddy

[ripe obsidian]

Is okay. Just frustrating to lose like that

[pale prairie]

Oh for sure that’s why I always queue up another immediately. I am a stubborn bastard

[ripe obsidian]

If it'd been my fault, sure. But I got friendly fired by the Arby's dog

I am taking a break for a bit.

That game tilted me

[pale prairie]

Yeah not your fault at all. Totally take a break. Game is supposed to be fun not rage inducing

[ripe obsidian]

Also might not have tilted me if it wasn't like 6 losses in a row, or if I hadn't saved that same Arby like 3 or 4 times

Ah well.

Life goes on.

[long wharf]

how did the dog get you?

[pale prairie]

You can only help people so far. Randos with no mics are the hardest difficulty modifier

[pale prairie]

The dog jumped from behind the burster he pushed so it knocked the burster back into him

[long wharf]

oof

yeah that sucks

[pale prairie]

Apparently the whole match had barrel explosions and other friendly fire stuff like that just normal pubs

[long wharf]

we need a "Heel" command, that prevents the dog from moving too far away from us

[pale prairie]

😔

[fresh reef]

Chat, does he know the dog is coded to stay in coherency?

[long wharf]

Chat, does he know that if you tell the dog to attack a target, there's no way to tell it to stop prematurely?

[gray juniper]

Man what a dick. Block list yea?

Or maybe I’m misunderstanding this. The push wasn’t intentional/conscious?

[hearty wolf]

Sorry

I would come play, simple for redemption arc

[fresh reef]

In my defense, 16 fluid ounces of 30% vodka

[ripe obsidian]

Probably unintentional. Pinging bursters is dangerous on Arbiter.

[ripe obsidian]

Isn't it 3am for you

[hearty wolf]

Yes but

🔪

[gray juniper]

Troopah

[ripe obsidian]

What does this mean

The 3am knife?

Are you cooking? Stabbing someone?

[pale prairie]

Yeah I have no idea. feels vaguely threatening

[gray juniper]

This means
“GEDIN DERE EN MAKUM SKREEAM!”

[pale prairie]

Ah so he wants a knife Ogryn?

Does anyone else find it funny how fucking effective knife Ogryn is? Crazy killing power

I mean it is a knife the size of a normal person but still

[cloud flint]

Played so much Psyker today that I got a migraine

Forgot to quell

[shrewd comet]

for a gun psyker, is it better to run 3 stam + 2x toughness curios?

or 3x toughness?

[ripe obsidian]

Either is fine. I personally do not care for stamina curios on Psyker. At least one person who plays a lot of gunker does use 2x toughness, 1x stamina.

Is preference

[shrewd comet]

capisce! what perks do you run, Six?

[ripe obsidian]

For curios? I use 2x toughess, 1x health, then for minor bonuses I use 3x toughness, 3x gunner resist, 3x cdr/health

[thorn cedar]

if youre using kinetic deflection then the extra stam trivializes block cost

[shrewd comet]

reason im asking is because im debating dropping resists for revive speed, but i dont like using duelist sword, so im not entirely mobile

[thorn cedar]

which is why i do it

but also i just like stamina

[shrewd comet]

i do use kinetic deflection

[ripe obsidian]

I just put stamina on my melee weapon for that, at least when playing staffker. Diminishing returns to have stamina on a curio as well. Makes more sense for meleeker or gunker.

[shrewd comet]

i use FGS for boss chunking >_<

and crusher deletion

[ripe obsidian]

Then stamina would make more sense on a curio

Is because Kinetic Deflection calculates block cost based on % of max stamina the attack would cost to block. So if an attack would cost, let's say, 50% of your maximum stamina, that is then divided by 4 to become 12.5% peril gen

If you go from 3 stamina bars to 6, that's now 25% of maximum stamina from 50%, which is 6.25% peril generation

[vague musk]

funny lightning

[jovial juniper]

Not a lot of overkill damage

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-failed-this-city-green-arrow-oliver-queen-arrow-gif-7589689948849809948

[golden mica]

autogun or recon lasgun for learning gunker gameplay?

[pale prairie]

Ah but see with a stamina curio and KD I can tank a demon host that I accidentally awoke with creeping flames

[pale prairie]

I have heard that recon lasgun is the preferred gun for many gunkers here

[weary idol]

recon lasgun is easier

or laspistol

vraks is better damage but short range and has recoil

[pale prairie]

Is vraks the autogun? Was that part of some of the name changes?

[weary idol]

yeah

vraks infantry autogun used to be the columnus

but the columnus is now the middle one (the bad one)

[pale prairie]

Had the same name for years and then they change it

VoidSTRIKE voidBLAST

[weary idol]

yeah

[ripe obsidian]

TIL the explosive charge in the carnival maps can kill you

[pale prairie]

I knew it could do damage if you stand right next to it

[ripe obsidian]

It took me from 100 > 0

[pale prairie]

That’s why it’s funny to brace Ogryn shield in front of it to get rocked a little bit

[pale prairie]

Yikes

So much for shaped charge

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[vague musk]

can't overkill when my lightning goes to someone else when they die, very efficent

[pale prairie]

speaking of how long did that match take?

[vague musk]

30m i think, usually what it is

[gray juniper]

30 minutes of what?

[pale prairie]

Holding LMB

[ripe obsidian]

Tox gas is, pardon the pun, a plague

[vague musk]

getting abused by flamers and gunners

[rancid jasper]

why does the armoury exchange never have voidblasts ;-;

[pale prairie]

Pfffff you know what's messed? holding RMB with Ogryn Gauntlet lets you restore toughness to match gas

[vague musk]

like saying a a geologist only looks at rocks

[pale prairie]

like saying I am right

[gray juniper]

I mean what mode?

[gray juniper]

You’ll want to build your own anyway with saved up materials. 60 warp resistance

[vague musk]

auric quickplay

so a lot of the time rot armor

[gray juniper]

Most matches are 20 minutes

[bitter silo]

Im trying to level Psyker right now and it just plays so different, i've got assail VS and a greatsword and when a horde of gunners show up slightly spread out i feel crazy useless. Assail also takes too long to target/kill so i just melt, what am i getting wrong with Psyker

[gray juniper]

What level are you currently?

[bitter silo]

like 15

[vague musk]

you are playing psyker, gunners will always be your doom

[gray juniper]

Toughness regeneration, reduction and better damage are attained through talent points. Before level 30 you’ll have to make careful decisions on what the talent usage looks like and if they work together to synergize

Check the pins for psyker talent explanations

You can take the easier way out and use assail until level 30 to likely level up faster or trudge more by taking things on the left side of the tree. Either is recommended

[agile ore]

Ello. Im planning to make a psyker character for the first time, and I was wondering if yall would give me some advice on how to play this class, and maybe some tips in starting off my build for one?

[ripe obsidian]

Use the Assail blitz until level 30

Psyker is rough to level up

Assail is your most reliable form of damage for a while

[bitter silo]

Also how are you meant to use VS cuz its just a wet noodle that makes me explode right now

[gray juniper]

The right side and using a gun with assail will get you to 30 faster. The left side will teach you staff and class mechanic fundamentals better

Because it’s not one of the best staves and if you look at the stats on the staff you’ll likely see that warp resistance and quell speed are very low on starting weapons

[ripe obsidian]

Alas. Almost had a 0 damage Shriek H40, but got bullied by a Pogryn and the melee twin.

[fluid knot]

In all honesty TacAxe is basically as mobile as DS just without the movetech

[pale prairie]

sounds like you pulled out a win

[ripe obsidian]

We did win. Was a decent game.

[gray juniper]

I just want this stupid dog penance done so I can stop using this garbage blitz

[strong gulch]

Commented at 1234 time for me. The best time.

[ripe obsidian]

1236 is better. Is mathier

1x2x3=6. 1+2+3=6

[strong gulch]

[deft stump]

Stares at Beans.

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/iftar-mubarak-gif-2314577388187338205

Oops was scrolling through gifs

Guess phone really wanted that one.

Idk how it's relevant to "what did I do".

[deft stump]

Yesterday.

[pale prairie]

Normal Karien things

[agile ore]

If yall were to recommend me a build to start off with, what would it look like?

[deft stump]

How new?

If VERY, go Assail asap.

[pale prairie]

Focus on assail and then whatever staff or blade or gun feels good

[agile ore]

Oh yeah, i haven't created a psyker character yet

[pale prairie]

Once you get to 30 then you can start making some fun stuff

Until 30 psyker is kind of tough cause they are so dependent on talents

[deft stump]

I need to make a saner ver of that assail build.

Would be easy to start with for learning basic peril management.

Also teaches melee shit cos Assail won't deal with cara.

[pale prairie]

Assail should handle most things except heavy armor. Deimos force sword should help with that. For ranged I would go with a reconlasgun/pistol unless you are confident in peril management. Feel free to try any staves you like

What

[deft stump]

Should I remake the silly Assail build with a saner ranged and curios?

[pale prairie]

Couldn’t hurt to have a training build on hand

[deft stump]

Because It's simple when I just wanna slack no think lower diffs.

Or when running a fever.

_> I should maybe just Arby at that point.

[pale prairie]

Put a rock on W key

[gray juniper]

Kitty is right up on me but being hella mean about touching her. Only cat things

[deft stump]

You obey me. Listen to what I want, hrmph!

[deft stump]

Well, IDK. Reflexes commit Sudoku at that point so...

[gray juniper]

Her mouth is partly open and I’ve discovered this is her mad face

[deft stump]

Oh, I know. Is a cat thing. Sadly, Lynette mains not boosted enough so unusable

[pale prairie]

Well number puzzles can be fun

[deft stump]

No. Reflexes ended itself then.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/what-whatever-whatsapp-what-are-you-doing-what's-up-gif-293406730209598246

[pale prairie]

Oof maybe rest and take a nap??

[deft stump]

That was last night. Probably caught something at the hospital. Am okay now.

[pale prairie]

Glad you’re feeling better!

[deft stump]

You get really derpy gameplay though.

[pale prairie]

That kind of streaming makes money

[deft stump]

You want 15 avg fps streams?

[pale prairie]

How derpy we talking?

[deft stump]

Extreme delays since 300 ping+ fever fog.

[rancid jasper]

wait what is there a way to change max stat potential with materials??

[deft stump]

Rerolling.

Just buy greys till you get a good one.

[pale prairie]

No not really. Basically you can wait to find the thing in the shop or you can go to armory and purchase white weapons until you get the spread you want

[rancid jasper]

ohhh ok

[rancid jasper]

this first method is what ive been doing. just check in every time it refreshes. buying a ton of whites/greys/whatever seems kinda inefficient

[pale prairie]

It is in the beginning but you eventually end up with so much money that it becomes more efficient

[rancid jasper]

im ngl i just name them after fortnite rarities. i dont even play fortnite lol

[pale prairie]

Like I dropped 300000 to get the right shield I wanted yesterday. But I am notoriously unlucky

[deft stump]

Just use colours.

I never get what I want. Then 1 mil god roll plasma.

That I never use.

[pale prairie]

I don’t know if that’s sad or lucky

[rancid jasper]

i wouldve though quell speed would be dump stat also?

[deft stump]

I was rolling cos mortis was ded and had no ppl.

[pale prairie]

Nah quell speed in the long run ends up being more efficient than resistance. It’s close though

[agile ore]

How would the skill tree look like?

[rancid jasper]

rlly, cant you just switch to blitz?
or depending on the build proc peril talents

[pale prairie]

Basically focus on these

[deft stump]

Well, mine is like this. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f866b05-539f-4423-8ce3-d7d26b138ea1/kittehs-lil-gremlin-assailer-build

[pale prairie]

Then you can go for whatever looks interesting further down but the priority is leveling up

[ripe obsidian]

Not super close. 60% warp resist is worse than 45% quell speed, in my testing

[deft stump]

Just use a gun instead of staff.

[gray juniper]

No it’s warp resistance because: 1. in conjunction with a few talents you’re likely to take, high peril increases damage 2. At higher difficulties, most will take empyric resolve which lowers peril anyway 3. With practice you won’t need to worry about peril build up as much 4. Quietude benefits from more peril

[agile ore]

Interesting

[deft stump]

And use Toughness/hp curios.

[pale prairie]

I thought the difference was like 1 tic or something

[deft stump]

Everything else is fine.

Roll more toughness or hp for sub stats on curios.

[gray juniper]

You don’t. You’ll have to keep buying until the right max stats show up

[rancid jasper]

makes sense

[plucky flax]

[gray juniper]

Wait what? I don’t understand this

[plucky flax]

Karien is on a higher thinking plane.

You needn't understand her.

[deft stump]

They had Lynette being angy doing it the cat way.

[pale prairie]

Fair enough

[deft stump]

The master gastlighter shows up.

[gray juniper]

Oh ok

[pale prairie]

I still have no idea what you’re talking about but it’s not for me to know

@ripe obsidian right around when you got your havoc 40 win I went 0 for 2 in my MOBA so please six take back your luck

[ripe obsidian]

I have spread my luck among ye like a plague. It infects you. Lives within you.

Feel it curdle your insides.

[pale prairie]

I can feel the Six’s blessing

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-chaos-spawn-ginkgo-fall-gif-4230252786752366838

[gray juniper]

Oh yea. I looked at the hidden modifiers for havoc and we get reduced quell speed as difficulty goes up. You’ll want max quell speed

[plucky flax]

Who

[deft stump]

You.

[plucky flax]

Not me.

[deft stump]

No,is totally you.

[plucky flax]

You're so mean.

[deft stump]

Wat.

[gray juniper]

Ayo this fool is starting to sound real nurgly

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-total-war-warhammer-great-unclean-one-daemons-nurgling-gif-24491424

POV: you have found Six

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

Rude.

[gray juniper]

W-what did you do in that room?

[visual phoenix]

Not affecting shriek 50% quell i belive
We chill

[gray juniper]

Shriek still gets immediate peril reduction yes

[visual phoenix]

So no changes then

[ripe obsidian]

No less than it deserved

[gray juniper]

Wow

[opal dust]

(zap crowd)
Zealot : "Dude, stop"
(okay, stops)
(Zealot promptly gets himself killed charging into the crowd)

(Bolt pistols gunners and snipers)
Veteran : "Dude, stop"
(okay, stops again)
(Veteran gets shotgunned, for some weird reason)

I love this game.

(And as a bonus, Ogryn got poxbursted into the furnace's lava pit, ragequits)

[proper osprey]

[proper osprey]

sm*te

yuck!

[ripe obsidian]

You forgot a k in your damage taken

[proper osprey]

sorry ill take more

[severe folio]

guys whats the shotgun's dump stat

[ripe obsidian]

Was that just regular Auric?

[severe folio]

the double barrel that is

[proper osprey]

mobilty

[ripe obsidian]

Probably mobility

[severe folio]

ok thanks

[ripe obsidian]

It's interesting to me that some people, myself included, say that Auric is very easy. But games like the one you just posted prove that we're, apparently, in the minority

[severe folio]

blessing and perks ?

[candid temple]

are you playing auric with randoms or premades?

Or well, with randoms I have to babysit the team and hope at least 1 or 2 is competent as well

[ripe obsidian]

Me? I don't play auric.

I do H40 with randoms mostly

Auric is not very enjoyable for me anymore

[proper osprey]

my games are i die due to teammates or i somehow get disabled and die

[candid temple]

but if you can solo auric, then I can see how it'd be easy.

[proper osprey]

its like a 20 to 80 thing

20 poopy 80 peak

[ripe obsidian]

I could maybe solo Auric. Have never tried. Wouldn't be too hard on Arbitrator. Not sure on other classes.

[severe folio]

wait the psyker antheneum is removed ?

[ripe obsidian]

Is very outdated

[severe folio]

;o

[ripe obsidian]

Was unpinned

[severe folio]

what blessing do i use with the double barrel shotgun

[ripe obsidian]

I think I use Scattershot and Manstopper because it's funny.

[severe folio]

huh

[ripe obsidian]

Crits = unlimited cleave

I don't know what's more meta. The zealot or veteran guides might have suggestions

[severe folio]

its a double barrel though

so its just 2 shots

[ripe obsidian]

My psyker games are 70% feeling like a hero and destroying everything, 20% panicked running around trying to reposition, and 10% wondering where that lone bruiser came from

[proper osprey]

that game was zealot with tac axe

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. I think Scattershot is +crit chance on enemies hit, and manstopper is unlimited cleave on crit. So you clear a hallway with each shot

Though I mostly use it on Weapon Spec veteran for the free reload

[ripe obsidian]

God-Emperor is proud of you.

[proper osprey]

[ripe obsidian]

You guided the unwashed masses to his light

[jovial juniper]

Guide unpinned huh

https://tenor.com/view/goat-washed-my-goat-washed-lightning-mcqueen-mcqueen-gif-13084113942314445304

[visual phoenix]

Still a w

[proper osprey]

they asked if i was a youtuber

[radiant frigate]

is this solo mode

[proper osprey]

might as well be

that was a pub

[deft stump]

20% panic only? Go full 100% panic.

[candid temple]

Panic is when i lock in.

[rancid jasper]

is Defenses a good dump stat on blaze force gs?

[proper osprey]

warp res

[rancid jasper]

it's 68 defenses and 72 warp res

im not that rich or minmaxy so im not really going for perfect

[tribal girder]

Warp splitting works on assail??

[radiant frigate]

if poor then wait for the armory to have a base with the right stats

[deft stump]

Yes.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[radiant frigate]

don't need to spend a ton rolling

[jovial juniper]

[deft stump]

Absolutely.

Put it with the assail subnode and play shotgun with it.

Edge 20% with deimos if needed.

Or I can just burga a few blast to edge.

[hard widget]

Which blaze sword is good for what

[rancid jasper]

marks or sword vs greatsword?

[hard widget]

Bfs marks

[jovial juniper]

Deimos and Obscurus are single target oriented

Illisi is a multiple targets

Albeit you have to spam special

Force Greatsword is a generalist

[hard widget]

So between deimos and obscurus which one is better

[jovial juniper]

And a pretty good generalist

[jovial juniper]

Obscurus is faster at killing
But Deimos is safer

[hard widget]

And how do you build bfs

[jovial juniper]

Deimos heavy poke throws targets on the ground

If they survive that is

[jovial juniper]

As long as you avoid Warp Slice, Blazing Spirit, Murderous Tranquility and Momentum blessings, you'll be fine

[hard widget]

Which perks

[jovial juniper]

Ogryn Prejudice
Carapace Unyielding

[hard widget]

Also what perks and blessings on inferno force staff

Rn I have blaze away and warp nexus

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Flak + Maniacs/CRIT chance

[hard widget]

Also voidblast staff dump is warp res right

[deft stump]

I just hate how the thrust is L3.

[nocturne dust]

see pins for build

for staves

[plucky flax]

Flak unyielding

[upper sun]

flak critchance

[severe folio]

as if one suffering isn't enough

[rigid sky]

Fwiw, FGS also can do amazing things vs single target - it really wants that attack speed talent though

[hearty wolf]

Zzz

[bright summit]

what curios do yall run on havocs(asking mainly abt primary stat)

[plucky flax]

The ogryn was so very impressed with @deft stump he said gg good zealot ty for carry

[deft stump]

So you went back to gaslight mains just to do that.

_>

[summer prairie]

disabled 6 times vs 1 time, pretty clear

[plucky flax]

It was bugged I only got disabled twice.

The ogryn did a sneaky he joined on gg then switched to rumbler.

[glacial vapor]

That Ogryn knows the strats

[deft stump]

To get to play with it.

[weak yoke]

probably a dumb question , but how do i check my teammates build?

[deft stump]

Mods.

[marble crater]

I do full health

[hearty wolf]

Sut you look different

[tulip kettle]

looks pretty clear to me that karien was the glue holding the team together, selflessly keeping you all alive while you all farmed for dmg and epeen size

[tulip kettle]

3 17% toughness with +5% toughness on top will give you exactly 100 toughness with most builds

[limpid talon]

should i run 3 toughness in auric maelstrom or 2 and a stam

[summer marsh]

Who is who

[tulip kettle]

i dont personally think stam curios are required, -IF- you are running kinetic deflector

and you likely should be running kinetic deflector talent

[summer prairie]

with most stave builds run stamina on your weapon instead

stamina curio is just way worse

[limpid talon]

okay ill swap it

[plucky flax]

Karien the one carried.

[summer marsh]

Hard to read this thing

[tulip kettle]

its just a normal scoreboard its what they look like

[upper sun]

great now theres two NO spammers

[tulip kettle]

you'll get the hang of it

[summer marsh]

I mean I can't understand who did exactly there's no normal line 'between players' also I can't see two name tags

[tulip kettle]

its read vertically and the only bit that really matters if not analysing specific sources of dmg etc is the red bit

[summer marsh]

This is joke

[upper sun]

correct one

[tulip kettle]

no, i was right, karien did carry through gameplay obviously, anyone can farm 700k dmg with their bleed dog and companion by stealing kills from the zealot flamer

[summer marsh]

Yeah that's true

[deft stump]

No. >_>

[visual phoenix]

Based

[bright summit]

Lol what's ur reasoning

[bright summit]

Interesting, I've been rocking 2 toughness 1 stam for a bit but I switched to 2 stam 1 toughness and it honestly feels better to me

[hearty wolf]

So you don't get 1 shot by a bruiser

[marble crater]

The penalty to toughness is bigger than to health and most of the time I will be in a bubble

[bright summit]

Ah I see

Oh yeah I run 2 stamina 1 toughness without kinetic deflection

[marble crater]

[bright summit]

Also I try to not run bubble it's not that fun lol

Gimps my damage unless I rock the purge staff but that's not as fun

[marble crater]

In havoc?

[bright summit]

Yeah

There's more decision making when you play without bubble imo and also more things to do for ur psyker when you don't have bubble

[hearty wolf]

Lets play Havoc

RN

[bright summit]

Purge is just overpowered and also imho has a lower ceiling than other staffs so I don't play it that much

LMAO I'm going to bed

Maybe another time

[hearty wolf]

L

[bright summit]

Thank you for the message reacts I have no idea what they mean ahaha

[plucky flax]

Found footage of Karien drawing aggro away from team boss fight.

[hearty wolf]

Clad doesn't like playing with me

So he downvotes me

Oh brother

might as well be a fucking disco

[plucky flax]

It's op cheat mod.

[marble crater]

Karryien

[plucky flax]

Factual.

[visual phoenix]

No
Later?

[hearty wolf]

I have wedding to go to later

It's cooked

[plucky flax]

Get karien to carry you.

[summer marsh]

I remember someone said that long time ago on mission I was playing

[hearty wolf]

🤔

[marble crater]

On a Tuesday? The hell

[hearty wolf]

The reception was yesterday or something

and now there is some other event thing from 4 -12

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

WDYM? I was booking whenever on the boss. >_>

[plucky flax]

I don't know what you mean.

[visual phoenix]

And me have job ;(

[hearty wolf]

I took today off

To play Need For Speed

[visual phoenix]

Then we do some another time
Probably around weekend?

[hearty wolf]

yuh

[visual phoenix]

We need to yk
Win at least

Those looses were itchy

[deft stump]

You posted what you did yourself, WDYM?

[plucky flax]

Wasn't me.

[summer prairie]

anyone know the incoming/outgoing havoc maps? Ascension riser is back at least

[upper sun]

tfw no coms/patches

[summer prairie]

Relay station I guess?

[upper sun]

CIVI UP

[rancid jasper]

how much do plasteel/diamantine gains scale with difficulty if at all?

is it most efficient to just grind low difficulties for materials?

[glacial vapor]

No

Just play the highest you can

[deft stump]

Best is Damnation while looting. But it's only if you win.

[glacial vapor]

Damnation allows you a bit more time for looting than Auric

[tulip kettle]

ive already won enough havocs this week so ill play with you for a bit and tank some L's 🙂

after mael

[tulip kettle]

join my mael

[hearty wolf]

What does THAT mean 😭

[deft stump]

He wants to help you have more fun, clearly.

[weak yoke]

May I know which mod is able to do that? Thanks.

[hearty wolf]

who are you and what have you done to Karien

[deft stump]

Wot. That's just my vet.

[hearty wolf]

🤔

[west spire]

Looks cute.

[visual phoenix]

Rude

Rude rude boy

[deft stump]

You mean my avatar, right?

[tulip kettle]

we're british

being mean is a compliment

[deft stump]

I think it's Inspect from Party Finder and/or Inspect from Social.

[deft stump]

Just look in fan art for the full thing. Licht drew it.

[rigid moss]

I thought that were the Aussies. Where „cunt“ is a compliment and „mate“ is an insult or something like that?

[tulip kettle]

nono

if a brit is only polite to you it means they think of you as a complete stranger

if a brit is indifferent towards you it means they dont like you

and if a brit makes fun of you it means they like you

theres a big difference though, between making fun and calling someone a cunt

[deft stump]

[tulip kettle]

if you get called the c word by anything other than a very close friend it means you REALLY pissed someone off

[radiant frigate]

new carryen just dropped

[deft stump]

Wot.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/new-lore-the-office-howlers-den-gif-13728058663357655003

[deft stump]

I mean, EU gaslight mains poking is like that?

[tulip kettle]

indeed!

[marble crater]

Or is it?

[upper sun]

remove bulwarks from the game

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/yutiply-yuti-yooter-vtuber-vtuberen-gif-27582591

[deft stump]

You German, hrm.

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle

Begin win spree?

[marble crater]

You Singapore

[deft stump]

Yes, your humor different.

[marble crater]

No u

[deft stump]

I don't understand it, but it clearly is so.

[earnest cobalt]

🤨

Confused me more than the memes

[tulip kettle]

yeah dude sry was in a mission join/ inv when u ready

[tulip kettle]

like, if they are polite to you they dont know you. if they act dismissive / disinterested it means they dont like you, rarely will a brit be directly rude

[earnest cobalt]

Hmm

What does being sarcastic fall into?

[tulip kettle]

its nuanced but generally sarcasm falls under "taking the piss"

and taking the piss generally falls under friendly banter

[upper sun]

wtf give it back

[earnest cobalt]

Lmao

[tulip kettle]

people say brits dont have culture smh

[earnest cobalt]

How is it friendly

[tulip kettle]

as discussed, it just sort of, is

[earnest cobalt]

Most funnies shit I have heard today

[tulip kettle]

its also why barry doesnt generally like pierre

because pierre doesnt know how to banter

pierre is just rude

[cobalt python]

We do

[glacial vapor]

The UK has a vibes based language. The words themselves lack the full meaning

[cobalt python]

It just ain’t ours

[earnest cobalt]

Uhm, dont know much european literature so can you explain what that means?

[marble crater]

Why are the pyramids in Egypt?
Because they didn't fit on the British ships

[tulip kettle]

nah man just like discussing here, brit culture is very language and communication based and its actually pretty alien to most who arent brits or brit-lite (aussie / canadian)

[cobalt python]

We couldn’t be arsed demolishing them to fit them on the boats after some guys died after going in the tombs

[tulip kettle]

barry means british and pierre is french

[upper sun]

why are the gates of babylon in germany?

[marble crater]

They aren't

[cobalt python]

We just take the piss

[upper sun]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar_Gate

[earnest cobalt]

We need a thinking ogryn emote

[earnest cobalt]

🤔

[upper sun]

[marble crater]

Hmm

[tulip kettle]

to over simplify, "you cant park there" is a classic bit of british banter, said to hopefully lighten an otherwise shit situation

[cobalt python]

Hey mate

[tulip kettle]

pierre would just call you stupid for having a crash

[cobalt python]

Ya can’t fuckin park there

[tulip kettle]

and hans would say "yes i know, i crashed"

[pale prairie]

And Sven would say “it’s a bike…”

[cobalt python]

Actually Hans would say “ja, ich weiß, ich bin abgestürzt”

[pale prairie]

Saw a video compilation of some UK person doing that while driving by crashes and people were PISSED

[cobalt python]

That’s funny

[earnest cobalt]

I feel like it means listening closely to the people you are having a conversation with

[cobalt python]

What a twat on a bicycle

[tulip kettle]

bike wanker

[earnest cobalt]

It doesnt give off a feeling that you are confused/didnt get it and want to learn

[pale prairie]

[earnest cobalt]

Yes

[cobalt python]

Ya can’t park there ya wanker the parking space is on the other side of the wall

[earnest cobalt]

Thats it

How the hell I didnt see it

Looks like Im blind now

[cobalt python]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gear-reliant-robin-jeremy-clarkson-richard-hammond-james-may-gif-25295350

[tulip kettle]

extremely reliant little car that

[earnest cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/ren88-recep-ivedik-araba-yeni-recep-ivedik-araba-recep-ivedik-gif-22634576

[cobalt python]

Reliant at everything but staying up right

Then again nothing is when driven by Hammond

https://tenor.com/view/youve-reversed-into-sport-lorry-walkie-talkie-richard-hammond-the-grand-tour-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-gif-15459321

[pale prairie]

Almost makes one go

[cobalt python]

https://tenor.com/view/richard-hammond-hammond-top-gear-grand-tour-exited-gif-24291827

[hearty wolf]

Sorry dude was in shower

Are you still in one

[marble crater]

In a shower?

[hearty wolf]

Yuh

[tulip kettle]

nah join

[cobalt python]

Showers are quite small objects aren’t they

[hearty wolf]

2m

I'm too fucking fat

These trousers are killing me

[late sapphire]

They are really cool up close

That's why they are in germany

[marble crater]

Sad

[hearty wolf]

Pc booting

[tulip kettle]

np we waiting

am i about to see zealot gameplay

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045849987587776642

[tulip kettle]

havoc 40 btw

20 mins

[visual phoenix]

Map?

[radiant frigate]

rare elara sighting?

[severe folio]

i think i felt the effect of wildfire today

it was a power out modifier and it was completely dark, but the enemy got lighted up

and because theres so many enemy died with max warpfire, wildfire transfer all around the stacks into much more than 4 warpfire per enemy

and because of it, my purgatus has a sort of "extended" range of effect

especially against enemies that doesnt flow towards me but my teammates instead

[pale prairie]

@ripe obsidian now that you’ve tested the wall explosive you should test the giant fan.

[severe folio]

during bits and bits of enemies it doesnt do much, but during big waves its def spreading the fire to where i am not aiming, and most importantly enemies that are running to my teammates instead

[deft stump]

The fan will just instakill you from memory.

If you mean that one map.

[severe folio]

a single enemy dying from warp fire dont give anything, but a whole group of them does means another group got light up in full stacks

[pale prairie]

Shhhhh I know that but I don’t know if Six knows

[visual phoenix]

Its still a 4 stack

Vent does 6

[candid temple]

a game in 2025 where you don't get invisible walls on objects like that

[severe folio]

yes it is

its 4 stacks spread from 1 enemy death

but in a horde situation, its not 1 enemy death, its multiple of them

[visual phoenix]

1 stack each up to cap of 4

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/drago-rocky-if-he-if-he-dies-he-dies-gif-10570702

Fatshark’s whole dev philosophy is:

[visual phoenix]

I barely notice it

[severe folio]

and an enemy that receive wildfire from 1 death enemy can still receive wildfire from another death enemy

so in essence its like

20 death enemy will transfer >16 stacks of warpfire to about <20 more enemy

[visual phoenix]

Its a funny node

I want wildfire to spread

Yet i press vent

Boom

0 value

Wildfire doing just nothing

[severe folio]

well it is most effective when after you press vent and there are still enemies around

if you press vent and everything in front of you or around you is dead

then yeah, nowhere for wildfire to go

[hearty wolf]

It was goo so went beacon

But that build had thammer on it

Was MISERABLE

[visual phoenix]

Its like useful in like... Speedrun scenario? Where i skip half of the enemies i gues

[hearty wolf]

Tried to hit a chaos spawn about 36 times

[radiant frigate]

OOF

[severe folio]

not really actually

[tulip kettle]

getting hyped for a bop

[thorn cedar]

I think Wildfire is okay but there is a strange and mostly theoretical level of admiration for it in this chat that I don't understand.

[severe folio]

its especially not useful in speedrun scenario

[tulip kettle]

squeaky hammer noise

[hearty wolf]

Then tried eviscerator and remembered why it was dogshit

[radiant frigate]

wot

evis is bad?

[pale prairie]

Were you missing or was it just that tanky???

[visual phoenix]

Its still a damage ability, but thats suuuch a low profit

[tulip kettle]

they just move a lot and you are slow

[hearty wolf]

Extremely bad in h40

[severe folio]

well if you search up my history in this channel about wildfire, you'll notice that I am the biggest wildfire hater

[hearty wolf]

With a decent team anyway

[tulip kettle]

if you dont have chastise to dash for the attack

[pale prairie]

Ahhhhh

[radiant frigate]

fuck wildfire all my homies hate wildfire

[tulip kettle]

and then even if you do hit it

it does like 1/5th the bosses hp

[hearty wolf]

Because the special's damage is backloaded, so by the time you're half way through sawing something, it's dead because the Ogryn pressed m1, twice

[severe folio]

but the recent event with all those annoying toxin enemy

[thorn cedar]

It was mostly Deadvoid tbf

[hearty wolf]

You have to use Thammer with FOTF so you can dash during the charge up or else you just can't hit things

[candid temple]

I wish I could enjoy eviscerators

[severe folio]

meaning its not quite safe to just run into the horde unless you want your toughness to be shred to piece

[radiant frigate]

ogryn nerfs when

[hearty wolf]

But I was using book

[tulip kettle]

and ngl wildfire is value for simply for the KF interaction in 40

[severe folio]

i notice that i was killing things i didnt blow my purgatus towards