psyker-class

[strong gulch]

Yeah in havoc bubble inferno is meta

[tulip kettle]

it also lets you be alive

[candid temple]

are you gaslighting us about the origin of the term gaslighting?

[opaque tree]

Yeah I don’t like that gameplay loop personally, but can’t deny it’s good

[tulip kettle]

which i find fun

[strong gulch]

But you can play other things too

[plucky flax]

If you run ahead and make team follow your bubble it is kind of fun.

If you stay at the back it's boring.

[tulip kettle]

put the bubble where you want them to go

not where you are

[hearty wolf]

I swear I will play darktide

I can't stopplaying NFS

[opaque tree]

Haven’t had a run in a while where an arbites holding W hasn’t dictated the pace of the game tbh

[paper oriole]

Wtf
First I hear about people t bagging in DT

That is some serious toxic shit

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1393581087334334545/Desktop_2025.07.12_-_14.11.51.06.mp4?ex=688f6086&is=688e0f06&hm=d47911c99b10714c575038bf9649a29f02a3e9179d8b1643308e27f30f117994&

[paper oriole]

A bit poetic, isn’t it 😅?

[tulip kettle]

music in this clip is peak

[plucky flax]

Mfw lvl 33 arby telling me what to do

[strong gulch]

Also, you can be selfish with you bubble. I don't mean ONLY protect your position but I mean place where it seems best in a few seconds. If the team wants to run into live fire in a gas cloud, that's on them.

[opaque tree]

I did see this build where kinetic flayer procs benefit from empowered psyioniks (but don’t consume the charge) and then you always have a backup fast brain burst

Seems fun

And you just take 1 charge of empowered psyionks for that, I don’t know how effective that is

[plucky flax]

Akon on top was peak music time.

[candid temple]

what mod is the pounce indicator from?

[zinc comet]

Spidey sense

[tulip kettle]

kill feed

unsanctioned psyker - dreg gunner x 33
dying arb - 1 single gunner

[strong gulch]

Were you in fire during the tbagging?

[tulip kettle]

spidey sense

[candid temple]

no, the "POUNCE!"

[tulip kettle]

yeah, spidey sense

its in the options near the bottom

[zinc comet]

In rather large text as well

[candid temple]

ahh

[plucky flax]

It's cheat mod.

Not me in the video btw.

[tulip kettle]

same as "NET" "SHOT" "CLEAVE" etc

though i will say they are only sometimes useful

[zinc comet]

I thought shotgunners were RACK

Idk I haven’t used the text warnings almost ever

[tulip kettle]

but putting CLEAVE on 5m and ALWAYS dodging when its on screen can save you from twinkletoes crushers

[candid temple]

Only cheating if devs have banned it

[plucky flax]

It's already cheat mod might as well turn on all the cheats.

[tulip kettle]

problem i find is that because it triggers when stuff is not targetted at you

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1396885880173756569/image.png?ex=688ee01a&is=688d8e9a&hm=5616f92b121fbbc01e574ab0713fdd9f16fb9e73db39640c189248c1fb0ae418&

[zinc comet]

If I don’t die to the offscreen crusher than I can’t flame my team

[tulip kettle]

you start to tune it out

[paper oriole]

“You are cheating the game, you are cheating yourself”

[zinc comet]

Not good

[tulip kettle]

then you ignore it when you shouldnt

[visual phoenix]

Wow classic raid lead

CLEAR COMS 🗣️

[upper sun]

NOOOOOOOO stop having fun and go back NOW

[plucky flax]

STAKC UP STACK UP STACK UP

BUFF BUFF BUFF

I dunno some MMO terms mumbo jumbo

[upper sun]

DRAW AGGRO

IM PULLING

[tulip kettle]

LEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOYYYYY

[loud girder]

whining about mods

[visual phoenix]

https://youtu.be/RlLl6bBq584?si=tl-VqzHomFyEBLOU

[loud girder]

cant believe that happens still

just buy a pc friendo ez clap

[verbal thistle]

I see both sides of the argument

Most mods show you want you normally can't see but could with skill (health bars and debuff indicator)

But it's also fatshark they purposely don't explain things. In game health bars, sound engine not working, etc

[visual phoenix]

Winning since payday mods

[verbal thistle]

I play with mods to remove things on my screen

[zinc comet]

How skilled do I have to be before I can see red weapons

[verbal thistle]

Play vt

[zinc comet]

So too much 😭

[verbal thistle]

By VT terms, rating 500 weapons are red

[loud girder]

yeah i dont think people would be care much if they could actually see things
clarity is an issue in this game

[candid temple]

there's a mod for that

[candid temple]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/380

[zinc comet]

I know I have some time in vermintide

Not nearly as much as dt

[visual phoenix]

Not 300?

[plucky flax]

Unsanctioned arby sword with dildo-looking hilt

[visual phoenix]

500 is cw

[visual phoenix]

boner on the sword
Cock sword

[zinc comet]

I know I was making a joke

[plucky flax]

Double cocks

[zinc comet]

wtf horny chat

[visual phoenix]

Double edge sword
Double cock edging sword

What if psyker instead of staff would have a comically giant blunt that he smokes to quell and huge cock as a mele weapon

[candid temple]

GW lawyers fueling up the jet.

[plucky flax]

Sword and board gaming Xd

[sacred surge]

i wouldnt be surprised if there slaaneshit like that

[plucky flax]

The mk6 maul and shield animation fits the sword model well. Xd

[paper oriole]

Hidden Slaneshi option

[tulip kettle]

so, empyric shock on inferno builds

any good?

[paper oriole]

Your hilt looks suspiciously phalic lexmate

[spice oar]

How is weapon customisation mod working for you guys??

Is there a discord by any chance??

[plucky flax]

There are a lot of update on the modding discords.

Not available on nexus.

[spice oar]

Could’ve taken the mod page down then smh

[tulip kettle]

it does also work with the version on nexus though, just with fewer models

[spice oar]

Was wondering why tf it wasn’t updated in ages

[spice oar]

Think that version conflicts with some mod of mine so I oughta see if the new ones fixed it

[tulip kettle]

fair enough

[spice oar]

Shoutout to Super Impact, can’t play the game without it anymore

[visual phoenix]

I belive it does not work at all. Only on ball type staffs

Im saing that like how it was half a year ago. Maybe it got changed

It would be super good, yet i had to take kin deflector bcuz of that

[tulip kettle]

it does work

from what i can tell

[radiant frigate]

PSYKER YOU NEED TO COME BACK

[strong gulch]

I think it used to not work with purg but it does now.

[tulip kettle]

the soulblaze ticks on a crusher go from 12 dmg to 16 dmg on a crusher at 15 stacks after i blast it 5 times with lmb

[strong gulch]

If you can QQ cancel, it might be worth trying.

[deft stump]

I mean, it's Chaos.

[visual phoenix]

Im gonna recheck that then

[tulip kettle]

i mean i dont see it being good anyway right because youre losing out on blaze away

[visual phoenix]

I wanted that before the quell cancell nerf

[strong gulch]

You can keep blazeaway up with LMB, unless you mean ramp up?

[visual phoenix]

Even atm it could be good just dor bosses i gues

[strong gulch]

QQ is still alive.

[visual phoenix]

Is that so?

[strong gulch]

I can't do it. Brains are too wonky to register swapping a lot of the time.

[visual phoenix]

I know its probably not as funny as before, but i cant make this work for me

No time saves i mean

[plucky flax]

Bring back quell cancel

[strong gulch]

bring it back

[visual phoenix]

Nahh fuck that

My fingers hurt

Macro sucks

But maaaaaaybe bring it back in terms of tallent?

[plucky flax]

I believe it was vocal minority on reddit ruined it

I barely ever see it in game

[strong gulch]

They really just needed to change LMB and not axe it entirely on weapons.

[visual phoenix]

Kill x guys with mele grant you 3 seconds increased attack speed on staff

[plucky flax]

Less than 10 times total

[visual phoenix]

Something something

[strong gulch]

Like, assail still has QC.

[visual phoenix]

I still have this

https://youtu.be/pv1-kDe5btU?si=_6PzBGT3h3TvPU5g

[ornate hamlet]

No i was taking a nap on the ground

[ornate hamlet]

Nothing new

[plucky flax]

It was me

[strong gulch]

I was asking about fire because if you are downed in fire, it's tech to spam the revive button to stop the decay.

[ornate hamlet]

No i can't control my psyker powers so i explode quite often

Dum mechanic tbh

[zinc comet]

Well well well if it isn’t the consequence of my own actions

[strong gulch]

I could feel the weariness in my hands every time you slowed down.

[tulip kettle]

idk peril is very kind

[paper oriole]

Gotta learn how to edge 🤭

[tulip kettle]

if it was lore you would turn inside out and explode into a demon

[paper oriole]

Every psyker in game has a collar

It’s function is to explode you so it doesn’t happen

[tulip kettle]

ew wearing the collar

like a dog

[paper oriole]

🤷‍♂️

[tulip kettle]

say nothing karien

[deft stump]

Is more on Asia servers where there's more tryhards.

[plucky flax]

Asian eewww

[paper oriole]

It is what it is

We can pretend it is a necklace with a unique form of meta chain

[plucky flax]

[zinc comet]

Tryhards like you

[zinc comet]

Bro?

[plucky flax]

I have enough of asian try hards in my eu server

Ruining my h40 by making it too easy

[strong gulch]

Are you one of them?

[deft stump]

Only once a day. I ded after.

[zinc comet]

You carry havocs like it’s nothing

[plucky flax]

Its typical karien

[deft stump]

I don't.

[plucky flax]

She plays 300 ping on eu server and complain it's too easy and boring

[deft stump]

When have I ever said that?

[plucky flax]

All the time

Earlier today

[paper oriole]

Casue she gets kicked out of the server and ends up not playing for most of the match 😢

[plucky flax]

You said "where are more eu noobs i want to carry"

But you only got me

[zinc comet]

She should carry na noobs too

[deft stump]

Stop lying damnit.

[plucky flax]

Is tru i heard it

[deft stump]

You mean trying to clutch even when the server is trying to kick me.

[visual phoenix]

Eu warlords will not forget that

[deft stump]

Stop lying.

[paper oriole]

Yes, literally fighting against everything

[ornate hamlet]

I am here

[deft stump]

Chaos is offering to carry.

[ornate hamlet]

[deft stump]

I'm going back to writing smut.

[ornate hamlet]

Smut?

[plucky flax]

No

[deft stump]

Yeah, how else do you think I get Nitro?

[ornate hamlet]

I am soo good at exploding,i got an achievement

[ornate hamlet]

By working?

[deft stump]

I get fired in days for some reason. Very hard to find jobs as well.

[ornate hamlet]

Where do you live? Wtf?

[deft stump]

Autism makes life hard when I tend to do things in the way I process them better.

Not the expected way.

[ornate hamlet]

Oh,get a disability claim from your government

[plucky flax]

Free money

[deft stump]

Non-existent.

[ornate hamlet]

Where do you live? Africa? Wth

[deft stump]

Go work for micky D for $5.50 an hour.

That's disability job.

[fresh reef]

Lemme guess

America?

[deft stump]

Naw. SGD.

Might have gone up since then.

[fresh reef]

Well, my americentrism is showing, I have no idea what SGD stands for

[deft stump]

But when I checked, it was that low.

[fresh reef]

I'm assuming Aussie region?

[opaque tree]

Is that 10% rending (bottom left) ever worth it? Does it achieve any specific breakpoints etc? I noticed it's a LOT riskier to play in the 75%+ range and you can't really make use of kinetic deflection with that

[fresh reef]

Idk man I'm working through a Saturday hash brownie rn

[deft stump]

Do they not show you a globe or a map of the world ever?

[fresh reef]

I was taught geography a single time ever

[deft stump]

I know SG is a little red dot on it but still.

[fresh reef]

In like, elementary

[plucky flax]

Are you actually certified disabled? Cos im sure in a civilised country you can get benefits

[fresh reef]

You underestimate just how dogshit Southern USA education is

[plucky flax]

Free money

[deft stump]

Nawp, got a halfarsed one for High functioning autism.

Nothing more.

[plucky flax]

If you just say youre autistic but with no doctor note then it won't work

[last shore]

Also some countries makes it so you can only be diagnosed with autism as a kid, not as an adult. Heard this from my gf who’s studying to be a doctor

[deft stump]

That's not exactly the autism it'll cover, pretty sure.

[fresh reef]

That is so fucking ass lmao

[last shore]

Yeah same goes for adhd too

[plucky flax]

From Gemini ai
Singapore offers various benefits and support programs for individuals with autism. These include employment support through centers like the Employability and Employment Centre (E2C), educational options ranging from mainstream to special education schools, and financial assistance schemes and grants to help with caregiving and other expenses. Organizations like the Autism Resource Centre and SG Enable provide a wide range of services to help individuals with autism and their families.

[deft stump]

Not when I was a kid.

[plucky flax]

There's some financial assistance there.

[deft stump]

To go to special schools would have costed us 100x public.

Because it was considered, but then rejected due to yearly costs.

[merry meteor]

unrelated, but what mod do you guys use for better indication of hidden counters, like remaining dodge counts? something that doesn't obstruct view too much, or is customizable

[plucky flax]

Numeric ui or show remaining dodges

[merry meteor]

is it known to drop fps, by any chance?

[fresh reef]

No

[last shore]

No

[west spire]

That sounds promising.

[merry meteor]

okay, thanks, will give it a try

[fresh reef]

Darktide is an incredibly well-optimized game for the most part, even if it is hard on your CPU

[plucky flax]

Well optimised

[visual phoenix]

So optimised true true

[fresh reef]

A little UI mod wouldn't cause you an FPS hit

[deft stump]

Also, I'm not intellectually disabled so not counted.

For adults, you need to be ID.

[strong gulch]

A lot of disability benefits will not let you qualify because you make "too much money" even though you're in poverty, are married, get claimed by a parent for filing taxes even though you're an adult, definitions of disability are SO narrow that most disabled people don't qualify, you have to keep reapplying and it's up to the interpretation of whoever is reading your papers even though you previously qualified, etc

This is mostly US based but it's not just the US.

Edit: Wanted to add that most people who do get disability benefits don't get enough to live off of. 300 USD or 200 CAD is not gonna pay your rent and groceries.

[fresh reef]

Okay yeah well-optimized is strong, fair

[plucky flax]

I think it runs decently unmodded

But the more mods the worse it runs. Script stuff

[fresh reef]

I realized I have FX Limiter, play on Ultra Performance DLSS, and have several third party programs to help my craptop run better lol

[plucky flax]

Weapon customisation is the worst offender

[paper oriole]

So true, unfortunately a lot of people won’t look into the details and will miss the full picture

[waxen pollen]

this game isnt even close to well optimized

[plucky flax]

I have a really good pc tho so I should have no problem even with mods

But server issue + shit performance with mods

[last shore]

I have pretty much no issues at all even with mods

[waxen pollen]

i can run most modern games on high settings without going below 60 fps

but darktide?

[deft stump]

So narrow indeed.

[waxen pollen]

i want to go above low settings and the game shits itselfd

[last shore]

Until a chaos spawn throws me through the top of the map and I jump off to res only to crash

[fresh reef]

Did you try reducing your steam pings per minute?

[plucky flax]

The server is the worst for me now. Dcing in havoc almost every map

[fresh reef]

That's what helped me the most with server problems

[gray juniper]

This looks like a roman gladius and shield. Big vibes of legionnaire roleplay

[plucky flax]

I did ye

[tulip kettle]

i live in the UK that for some reason has a reputation of easy to get benefits

[plucky flax]

It didn't do anything for me still error 2001 and 2014 galore

[last shore]

I run DT on max settings with 200+ fps and no frame gen

[tulip kettle]

and even here, even if you are certifiably disabled, you usually dont get extra benefits

[deft stump]

I need to basically be the r-word to even think of it.

[zinc comet]

How is your game so bright

[tulip kettle]

you only get them if you are blind/ in a wheelchair / nonverbal learning disabilities etc

[zinc comet]

I can actually see things

[plucky flax]

Damn I run on max with frames gen and 100~ fps but have dips to 70 with big horde.

[fresh reef]

I'd like to recommend this, if you're on Windows:

https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1256

[deft stump]

More or less.

[verbal thistle]

the clip is the game crashing at the end

[last shore]

What’s even your setup

[plucky flax]

Hmm 9800x3d 4090 64gb ram 6000

[last shore]

🤔

[strong gulch]

I heard it the crashing sound. It's the game's way of nerfing you.

[gray juniper]

No it’s hardly does anything and some here consider it a tax node. You can play without it but the purpose would be specific build dependent

[last shore]

14900k and 4090 for me

[deft stump]

And to be fair, it will be harder now since you learn to mimic and mask as you grow if not literally non-fuctioning or low functioning.

[last shore]

Forgot my ram but it’s higher

[plucky flax]

I think intel cpu run much better on this type of engine

[last shore]

Luckily I got it after the whole code thing

[plucky flax]

Swedish game engine is sus

[last shore]

6 year warranty for the cpu

[strong gulch]

The question isn't "do I take PotS", it's "do I take ER or not".

[tulip kettle]

singapore is also just like, benefits dont really exist anyway from what i understand. Nearly everyone gets social housing, but beyond that its "work or starve"

[plucky flax]

Rare to see intel though most gamers go amd cpu these days.

[fresh reef]

I love that PotS, despite being actually nonfunctional, is also just bad

[strong gulch]

PotS could be a blank node (like it used to be because it didn't work for awhile), and the question would still be the same.

[fresh reef]

Yippee, 10% rending

[strong gulch]

It's doing its best.

[tulip kettle]

it does work

[fresh reef]

Wait they fixed it? When?

[tulip kettle]

just

[last shore]

I’ve noticed most games folks have issues with (not only darktide), they had amd. And me with intel in those games, no issues

Same thing in sm2

[tulip kettle]

yeah like beans said the choice is really "do i want ER or not want it"

[strong gulch]

I forgot, but it is still bad.

[plucky flax]

Its mostly amd gpu

[last shore]

Time to switch

[plucky flax]

I think because this engine priorities more per thread speed

And intel has higher

[ornate hamlet]

i love blowing myself up,ima call my psyker,bomberman

[fresh reef]

Of note, my friend has all AMD parts

[plucky flax]

I'll download this and try

[fresh reef]

He switched to Linux and suddenly the game ran like a dream lmao

[deft stump]

More or less, you get what you get, work or go die. Is why ppl IRL want me to go die.

[tulip kettle]

because you dont work?

capitalist brainrot man

[plucky flax]

Is there no unemployment benefit?

[deft stump]

Or get fired within a week so no pay and losing money to go interview and such.

[torn kernel]

Scooch over to malaysia :3

[gray juniper]

I scrolled up and saw you’re autistic. I didn’t know that. My nephew is too. Ironically enough he’s naturally a good gamer also

[deft stump]

Nope. You starve and die then.

[fresh reef]

Personally I have 4gb of VRAM, so my settings are at 1600/2400 mb for list size and memory limit. Use those numbers for reference relative to your own RAM/VRAM, and set your polling rate to 500ms 👍👍

[deft stump]

I am not Malay. You get kark all if not Malay in Malaysia.

[tulip kettle]

man medievel peasants in the 12th century used to work less than 50% of the days in a year

clocks got invented and everything went to shit

[torn kernel]

Tru 😔

[candid temple]

I uhhh

[deft stump]

I had years to learn to hide most of it. Is why I can ramble off if I really like something.

[opaque tree]

Ah ok that makes sense, I saw some builds saying the peril reduction ones are all bad if you want to min/max soulblaze and shriek damage and you want to stay at 80% peril for more damage and blaze stacks but it's really stressful to play like that

[candid temple]

ISLC does nothing with VRAM

[gray juniper]

The medieval era was the height of mankind but nobody is ready for that conversation 💅

[torn kernel]

Goddamn satisfying when it flows right though

[tulip kettle]

for you to have the same work life balance as a peasant, employers would need to give you 3.5 MONTHS of PAID HOLIDAY

[strong gulch]

You do want to edge your peril.

ER is good for high peril gen staves.

[tulip kettle]

but yeah if you dont fit with the capitalist expectation of working 45 hours a week in a box with 100 other people then you deserve to starve

[plucky flax]

Uh where do I find what number to put according to my ram and vram?

[torn kernel]

Edging is the psyker's main mechanic tbf

[fresh reef]

?
It's total memory, and I'm rationing it so I don't get GPU crashes lol

[candid temple]

[tulip kettle]

i like pumped up kicks in old english

[candid temple]

Are you on a laptop with shared memory or something?

[ornate hamlet]

No,i like to blow myself up

[plucky flax]

If I'm on good pc do I really need this?

[opaque tree]

I was playing Mortis Trials for fun yesterday and an ogryn got some insane bomb perks and crashed my game, and almost crashed both my friends games too

Just spamming bombs

[plucky flax]

I think it's just the game is borked for my set up.

Xd

[candid temple]

Depends, does windows sometimes hangup and crash all your chrome/firefox tabs

(windows memory manager is total garbage btw)

[tulip kettle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcKqhDFhNHI

[plucky flax]

Maybe

[candid temple]

then yes

[fresh reef]

I forget the numbers I used, but both the ones given are percentages of my 4gbVRAM/8gbRAM

[candid temple]

you want like 1-4gb for list/freememory

[fresh reef]

I wanna say I used a 60/40 ratio

[gray juniper]

This is why many find and use a staff with the lowest warp resistance, but still reaching the other stat thresholds on that staff. They may still take empyric resolve over penetration of the soul because it does tend to help balancing peril generation. It depends if it works for them or not, but ultimately 10% rending doesn’t do anything meaningful in game calculations as others have shown by showing the coding of breakpoints and damage

[plucky flax]

I put 4096 copying you and call it a day.

Since I have 64gb ram as well.

[candid temple]

[fresh reef]

Hey, whatever works

I'm fully aware my laptop needs some specific life support lol

[plucky flax]

Time for a new laptop.

[deft stump]

Is just boxes. If an oggy gets 50% chance to double, BIGGEST box of hurt and 'nade regen... GL.

[opaque tree]

Thanks that's helpful, I was thinking it might make some good min/max stuff but it didn't feel any different playing with it

[candid temple]

if you're getting out of memory errors in darktide, you can also try this in steam launch options:

--lua-heap-mb-size 2048

[plucky flax]

I have that yeah.

Makes the game run so much better.

[candid temple]

was crashing on me on mourningstar at 7680x2160

added that, no more crashes*

[visual phoenix]

I think im still crashing with that even

[dense raptor]

Anyone able to point me to a build thats suitable for a newb?

[plucky flax]

It's fartshart magic.

[gray juniper]

This one is my favorite https://youtu.be/t6pJ34o1qrg?si=wprgr4IbBhiE9lb1

[strong gulch]

Are you still leveling or a fresh 30?

[dense raptor]

Had it at level 30 for a while but i struggle with it so hardly touch it

[gray juniper]

I’m not surprised now that you mention it because autistic people I know tend to be very quiet and content not to say much at all or talk a lot

[strong gulch]

There's staff builds in the 2nd pin.

[fresh reef]

Noted, but I never get out of memory errors

[strong gulch]

If you have more specifics about what you're struggling with, we can help.

Bewteen build and skill issue, build is easier to adjust. Then work on other things.

[fresh reef]

I am curious though, @candid temple
Why specifically 2048 mb, as opposed to 2000 mb?

[dense raptor]

staying alive seems to be my biggest issue tbh

[gray juniper]

You should probably have one option for staffs and one for guns tbh. What are you looking for?

[strong gulch]

Blocking, dodging, positioning, assuming you're gonna get back stabbed, having enough toughness gen, knowing how to use your CC and damage mitigation tools etc all help keep you alive.

Map knowledge and learning how to manipulated enemy AI help a lot.

[dense raptor]

just something i can use and contribute with, i can do well on my others, but this class kicks my arse

[gray juniper]

Always a valid point potato makes

Psyker gets toughness back only by consciously working on doing things that gain it back

[dense raptor]

i see

and out of the pinned staff builds which would be a good starting point?

[visual phoenix]

less thinking more dmg
things will get by themselves

[strong gulch]

Which staff do you like the most?

pick that one.

[dense raptor]

sounds like an ogryn creed

[strong gulch]

Start with a staff that makes the most sense to you.

[gray juniper]

Yes

[strong gulch]

EK and inferno are the easiest imo.

[marble crater]

Is smite a staff?

[gray juniper]

It’s ten staves

Each finger is a staff

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/water-spray-stop-sprinkle-water-gif-11895255

[deft stump]

It depends, I can be either. Gotta learn to interact somehow, right? But is also why awkward.

[marble crater]

Wow rude

[strong gulch]

no u

oh right

Hi

[marble crater]

Hi

[strong gulch]

barrel fights

[gray juniper]

I could easily see that based off experiences. Tragically I think many autistic people tend to overthink it

It comes with the territory though obviously

[plucky flax]

Guy triggered dh, left the game and it went on me.

[strong gulch]

AuDHD brains fighting itself in a convo.

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/carebear-carebears-cute-care-bear-stare-gif-14608683443678292501

[paper oriole]

Remember to report them first 🫡

[plucky flax]

Don't think it's warrantied a report.

Just scummy dt behaviour.

[paper oriole]

True, I guess it depends on how are you feeling

[deft stump]

Or just learn to not, but then you ramble off too much and yeah... other problems.

[gray juniper]

Was in a game last night with 3 female characters and starting to think it was 3 real life women because it was so cooperative and friendly. Very good match then 2 disconnections at the very end such a tragedy

[gray juniper]

Awl : (

[deft stump]

Will screw up somehow, kinda used to it. Bonus you figure out why much after.

[waxen pollen]

oh so the dh DOES switch targets when the target leaves

lovely ..

[gray juniper]

The good thing is that’s normal for everyone to ruminate later and feel awkward. Nobody gets socializing right all the time 🙂

[deft stump]

It's much harder in a way when you barely can tell things at times.

[candid temple]

because 1 gb is 1024mb

but you can do 2000, it doesn't matter

[gray juniper]

Yes I could believe so

[cobalt python]

https://tenor.com/view/if-the-emperor-had-a-text-to-speech-device-high-lords-of-terra-warhammer40k-highly-illegal-gif-14389201

Sacrifice that individual

[deft stump]

Gaslight mains just... at times tbh.

[gray juniper]

Aw. So the jokes make things difficult because it’s hard to tell if someone is serious at the time?

[deft stump]

I'm sure everyone is just serious or just like poking reactions out of me.

[gray juniper]

I see. Knowing this I can lay off the joke myself. But no one is serious btw. The source of the humor is confusing newcomers. They use you as the common theme of it. To elaborate further, it’s also a way to exemplify not taking the game too seriously while using sarcastic humor

[marble crater]

I'm German, we don't joke and are always serious

[cobalt python]

Until it comes to putting a transmission on a vehicle weighing more than a hotdog

[plucky flax]

Tru I am always serious when I say karien is best player ever.

No british sarcasm.

[fresh reef]

Yeah but how does one get to that number was what I was curious about. Like it is just how the bytes rounded up?

[gray juniper]

Oh you want German humor? Here’s an example. Don’t

[cobalt python]

Gotta love the German bedtime stories

[visual phoenix]

@tulip kettle you were right
emp shock now Is work with purg staff

[verbal thistle]

German Humor

2 hunters meet

both dead

or however that went

[gray juniper]

Germans are some of the funniest people imo

[visual phoenix]

can do

[paper oriole]

Haha, nice joke man 😎

[gray juniper]

If you’re still doing this I’d like another opportunity

[paper oriole]

That is some propaganda at work 😛

[plucky flax]

Titan quest 2 pog

[hearty wolf]

Yuh

@strong gulch is awake?

[strong gulch]

ye

[hearty wolf]

Ok I come down

[gray juniper]

Nice

[strong gulch]

@visual phoenix If you're gonna do inferno for H40, I'll do rendi trauma.

[visual phoenix]

Cool
Il do whatever

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858793438023812

[visual phoenix]

inf connection

lets move to 30 :)

[hearty wolf]

h

i

com

[gray juniper]

Coming

[hearty wolf]

30

not 29

lul

[merry meteor]

What is the math behind +4% ability regen stacking on curios btw? Are they simply summed up?

[radiant frigate]

that joke only works in german

[candid temple]

additive yes

[verbal thistle]

I know

[radiant frigate]

Ye

[merry meteor]

and how does it stack with the Seer's presence later? Additive too?

oh, it's CD reduction there..

[radiant frigate]

pretty sure they still do the same thing

[merry meteor]

does somebody know, like, final result? 🙂 How much do I get from those two?

[radiant frigate]

so all together 22% cdr

[merry meteor]

thanks

[cobalt python]

Why is it red

[radiant frigate]

mod/personal choice

[pale prairie]

The real question is it fake

[radiant frigate]

isn't that a false 3stam

i thought real ones are 410+

[pale prairie]

Gotta fucking love Fatshark code

[paper oriole]

“It creates engagement, as people test and discuss the game” 🫠

[pale prairie]

Did they actually say that?

This game and hellsdivers 2 are so dependent on players being the testers it’s mind boggling to me

[paper oriole]

Not them, but I have seen it used as an excuse for lack of information in games by devs

Win - win for them, less work + people talk more about the game + people aren’t scared away by long/too long descriptions and definitions (your Sunday gamers)

Corporate world 🤷‍♂️

[pale prairie]

Eh just feels like the amount of effort required to understand the background processes of havoc and maelstrom requires so much investment

[meager tinsel]

New player here

Been playing all classes

i like them all but kinda grow on Psyker

Especially the greatsword

is there a build for it

one that put greatsword on pedestal

I've read this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

But am confused what it means by weaving

[pale prairie]

There are a lot of builds for it. What do you use for your ranged? Many of them like to use guns with it

[hearty wolf]

I have no real ones :/

[meager tinsel]

I dont really use range lmao

but am carrying voidblast atm

[radiant frigate]

swedish companies try not to make 4-player co-op games complicated beyond reason challenge (impossible)

[pale prairie]

It means you swing two lights into a horde then quickly swap to ASSAIL and throw a few darts of it to keep stacks of DD and Peril high because both increase your damage and survivability

[cobalt python]

To be fair the best people to test the game are the players

They find all the really broken things

[meager tinsel]

What % peril should I keep it up to

I been using special to up it by 49%

[pale prairie]

To an extent yeah but it’s less about finding broken things and more about it being obtuse like how the fart carapace armor first worked and monster spawns in maelstrom vs havoc

[meager tinsel]

How high is high

[cobalt python]

Yes

[pale prairie]

You want it at least 80 I think for the warp rider talent and one with the warp

[radiant frigate]

as high as you are comfortable going

ideally 100% for max power

but not easy to manage

[meager tinsel]

I use Scriers Gaze and it goes down slowly?

[pale prairie]

A gun is used because it allows you to quickly do boss damage/kill specials or elites without having to juggle another thing around Peril

[pale prairie]

Scrier’s gaze makes it go up slowly until you hit 100 then it goes down normally and you benefit from the increased damage and crit chance for 10 sec before it all disappears

[pale prairie]

This is a good place to start courtesy of Pro Potato

[paper oriole]

Maybe your family will disown you for making a non-complicated game? 😰

Hear that Japanese do so if you make a good UI ☹️

[pale prairie]

I would grab the one with the warp talent to help with survivability. You’ll still have a couple points to put where it feels good for you

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-slowclap-notimpressed-gif-8195521

[radiant frigate]

i like to run this

[pale prairie]

Lmao IS IT a swedish thing? Or just something that has happened twice?

[pale prairie]

Obviously that’s trash /s

[paper oriole]

Vermintide, helldivers, magicka are coming to mind

[pale prairie]

Yeah that looks good. Pretty similar to a void strike build I use to run

[radiant frigate]

i'm not saying it is, but i'm not saying it isn't

[radiant frigate]

that's all fatshark and arrowhead

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-kawaii-kitty-gif-11058127829637654361

[waxen pollen]

oh my

magicka mention

[pale prairie]

Hey now magicka was great okay

[paper oriole]

They had multiple chances to learn from that but decided it is not important

[radiant frigate]

no vampiri

[pale prairie]

Also #Vladnotavampire

[radiant frigate]

comically large frost strike

summon armor

[pale prairie]

I mean your people are highly represented in many movies, shows, and fictional works

[radiant frigate]

we playing wizard knight now

[paper oriole]

Thuderbolt spam

[pale prairie]

FIREBALL

[radiant frigate]

that too

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/catpire-gif-18059848

[pale prairie]

I just don’t see what @hearty wolf sees regarding deliciousness

[paper oriole]

Everybody heard of twilight and buffy the vampire slayer

[upper sun]

angel was better than buffy

actually gonna rewatch it

[ripe obsidian]

Remember, the safeword is banana.

[paper oriole]

Considering the topic I have a ⭐️curiosity⭐️ for you

Apparently the world vampire originated in old slavic, most likely western slavs

A vampire was a person who was not given proper burial, due to that their soul was left in the world of the living and gained supernatural powers (but not the stereotypical ones, these came later with Dracula novel)

[pale prairie]

Now we getting into the deep lore

[kindred fog]

Any suggestions for a Psyker build where I can generate less peril/generate peril slower while using Smite? I seem to be getting up to critical level much quicker

[pale prairie]

EP and Empyric Resolve

[radiant frigate]

also shriek

[jovial juniper]

Go for the opposite

Embrace high Peril

[pale prairie]

Yes shriek will help

[jovial juniper]

Scriers Smite

🗣️

[pale prairie]

I would pay to watch a run with that

[radiant frigate]

scry some more

[pale prairie]

Does it even count as finesse damage??? Can it even crit???

[radiant frigate]

no and no

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-nosferatu-gif-24939291

[radiant frigate]

but 10s unlimited power with warp unbound

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/this-shit-is-so-ass-gif-gif-13056992775285521374

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[pale prairie]

See now that’s roleplay

[kindred fog]

Empowered Psionics is so fucking good

[paper oriole]

If you pick talent “unlucky for some” you can just tank while quelling, assuming your teammates die (they weren’t useful anyway)

[radiant frigate]

@strong gulch unlucky for some mentioned

[kindred fog]

anyways time to try and not have my brain explode on Damnation

[radiant frigate]

go, kill some heretics

good varlet

[paper oriole]

The emperor protects sibling 😇

[pale prairie]

It’s alright. I think that if the blitzes get adjusted it could be more fun

[kindred fog]

he’s clearly not protecting the contents of my skull, praise the existence of Crystalline Will

[pale prairie]

You do really give off a Hadron vibe

[radiant frigate]

how so

[pale prairie]

There’s a very small asterisk in that phrase for “except for you goddamn liabilities”

[pale prairie]

Maybe it’s more Hadron gives off vampire vibes

[paper oriole]

He does, if he is the one tanking explosions from crystalline will

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-gif-6974571704721868822

Techpriest vampire performing a rite to cleanse a machine spirit

[pale prairie]

Direct, knowledgeable, skilled, and at times scary

[ripe obsidian]

That elf doesn't look goth enough to be you.

[pale prairie]

True that unleash the mods and delete that content

[radiant frigate]

yes very true

[radiant frigate]

hold on, what exactly makes me scary?

[pale prairie]

One does not simply edge 100% peril.

[ripe obsidian]

Depending on the setting, elves are cannibals. That's pretty spooky.

[pale prairie]

Also you are a vampire so you eat people

I am people

I think

https://tenor.com/view/man-flesh-orc-lotr-gif-11645395

[paper oriole]

She sounds like a dark eldar

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dots-are-starting-to-connect-starting-to-connect-its-coming-together-working-as-planned-its-starting-to-come-together-gif-15180306

[radiant frigate]

to be fair, druchii corsair was my profile pic for a while

[strong gulch]

hydrated

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/william-knight-tik-tok-guy-tik-tok-grand-rising-app-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-coincidence-gif-22190856

[ripe obsidian]

If that's the case, I do not think a safeword, banana or otherwise, will be of much use.

[hearty wolf]

Kat

[paper oriole]

Looks cool, art is higher quality then Selune Shadowheart

[pale prairie]

Protect me Six!

[pale prairie]

It was funded by that 40k wargame money

[paper oriole]

You never know until you test it 🤭

[paper oriole]

As “founder” then for I shall speak positively of it 😆

[radiant frigate]

my profile has never been shadowheart

i like her though

[pale prairie]

I don’t think they even understand the concept of “safe word” it’s probably just “keep going” or “never stop”

[meager tinsel]

Can I just quickcast Assail?

[radiant frigate]

if you just intend to use it for shorter ranges, yes absolutely

pointed assail is more for long distances/specific targets (mostly snipers)

[paper oriole]

Do you have a general liking of elves?

[pale prairie]

For weaving you kind of have to because your goal is to throw out enough to raise your peril again and then immediately switch to melee. Ideally this happens while inside the horde

[pale prairie]

Oh so that’s an elf custom character

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[radiant frigate]

believe it or not, that's actually the dream visitor

..from my shadowheart run

[ripe obsidian]

I see. Shadowheart's dream visitor is like looking in a mirror.

[meager tinsel]

Yeah I just want to press G for Assail and let it go and then automatically go back into my Greatsword, just like how in Ghost of Tsushima I can use Kunai whilst having my katana up

[pale prairie]

Mmmmmm nothing but good intentions could hide behind that hot visage I painstakingly crafted

[ripe obsidian]

@radiant frigate have your read Pratchett's Lords & Ladies? It is the elfiest of the Discworld books, I believe.

[pale prairie]

“Finally some intelligent conversation”

[radiant frigate]

i have not

but perhaps i should now that you have mentioned it

[ripe obsidian]

It is the third in the Witches subseries, I think. But almost all Discworld books are very good, and rather short.

Highly recommend the series on the whole.

[pale prairie]

That’s how it should be. It’s a tool to buy you space in dense hordes and mostly keep peril up cause it’s faster at that than the sword special. (Light 1, Light 2, Assail, light 1, Light 2…etc) adjust as needed

[paper oriole]

Reminds me of Aeon path in Wrath of Righteous, where you are your own advisor

[ripe obsidian]

I believe they mean a single press of G to throw a shard, like Zealot with throwing knives.

[paper oriole]

Writing is very good in all of them

[pale prairie]

Ah is there a way to keybind that? I don’t think so

I usually tie the assail to my scroll up and melee to my scroll down to make it faster

[radiant frigate]

hmm today i'll take a trickster legend

[pale prairie]

Very good humorous fiction

[ripe obsidian]

I will argue, sadly, that the writing is not very good in the last book. Or, at least, it is such a faded memory of peak Pratchett that it made me too sad to finish.

[radiant frigate]

that is not the behaviour of assail so no can do

[pale prairie]

Pfff I always go superhero path with the azata path. Chaotic man with a secret base filled with friends and animal companion

[radiant frigate]

i went trickster because it is the least mythical

[pale prairie]

Damn

[ripe obsidian]

And the first couple books are weaker because Pratchett didn't figure out plotting until around Small Gods. Still funny, but there was a noticeable transition from jokes-first to plot-first as the series progressed

[radiant frigate]

and because someotimes you can just do things like "fuck it, you are a tree now"

[pale prairie]

Yeah I usually recommend “THE TRUTH” as a place to start and then just pick the novels that sound good to them

[radiant frigate]

also shoutout to Completely Normal Spell enabling us to.. barely ever rest

[ripe obsidian]

I usually recommend Going Postal, then Small Gods.

[pale prairie]

Ah pathfinder 1e you broken piece of shit I say that with all love

[radiant frigate]

we arrive at a place, everyone is exhausted, and seelah brings out the infinite coffee supply (Completely Normal Spell turns level 1 spells into cantrips, lesser restoration is a level 1 spell for paladins)

refreshing!

[ripe obsidian]

Not PF, but never resting makes me think of Coffeelocks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkpa1j1yYqQ

[radiant frigate]

to be fair i was trying for Sadistic Game Design

ended up failing because i didn't discover the weird place on the way to drezen with the sarkorian ghost encounter

"maximum 75 rests" upon closer inspection i had like 15 total

[pale prairie]

Lmao

Hmmmm

[radiant frigate]

SEELAH, COFFEE

[pale prairie]

ITS BEEN 15 DAYS?!?!

[radiant frigate]

oh and of course the Trickster Special (sneak attack heal)

[radiant frigate]

no but we have been awake for the past 6 months :)

[pale prairie]

See now that seems like average sleep time for the people in here

[radiant frigate]

running on restoration, lesser and cure minor wounds

[paper oriole]

Trickster is fun and as you said it is nice to brake “the law” sometimes, with stuff like recreating the banner from sock funny

Aeon just resonated much more with me, and true Aeon-type-of-ending is my favourite type

[radiant frigate]

the aeon theme is SO SAD

[paper oriole]

I heard it was mostly due to his illness, but as they said

It is better to cry cause it happened, not cause it ended

[radiant frigate]

but it was funny to see the rogue suddenly become the party's main healer (because i can add sneak attack dice to heals) (and i can heal others with potions)

[pale prairie]

Aeon is the German path no emotions and absolutes galore, also no funny /s

[radiant frigate]

"this isn't supposed to be here, erase it"

[paper oriole]

Yes - but I love it 🥰

It just feels sooo good in game when you have to pick the lawful decision

[pale prairie]

“Apologies child but you must be ERASED”

[radiant frigate]

unchecked borders at the worldwound, smh

[ripe obsidian]

That is correct. Alzheimer's is brutal, and the universe is cruel. He could not write and had to dictate to his assistant. But he also could barely speak and lost track of conversations.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/thunderbolts-thunderbolts-marvel-thunderbolts-sentry-sentry-marvel-void-marvel-gif-10809741654256285358

[paper oriole]

Sorry, you are breaking the lex.. I mean the law

[ripe obsidian]

I've read/watched a couple Pratchett biographies. They never fail to make me tear up.

[paper oriole]

Also - sometimes you can play a game to be sad 😅

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/emperors-new-groove-kuzco-gif-3500169

[pale prairie]

looks at my escapism yeaaaaaaa

[paper oriole]

Do you have one to recommend? I never read one

[ripe obsidian]

Wait, is Worldwound a thing in Pathfinder? Another fantasy term I penned for my novel-in-progress that turns out someone else used first. >:(

[paper oriole]

You should do both 🫡

[ripe obsidian]

"A Life with Footnotes" by Rob Wilkins, who was his assistant for decades.

[pale prairie]

Ahem yeaaaa it’s the site of a magical cataclysm that basically is a giant expanding portal to the demon realms

It’s from a pf1e adventure path “wrath of the righteous”

[paper oriole]

I am sorry, my weakness is trying to make to many dad jokes

[pale prairie]

But since it’s pf1e I doubt the name is copyrighted or vigorously protected

[paper oriole]

Thank you 🙂

[ripe obsidian]

In my novel, to oversimplify, it's the site of a human-made magical cataclysm that is slowly eroding the world and exposing the planet's core to extraplanar parasites that want to suck it dry.

[pale prairie]

That’s plenty different enough

[ripe obsidian]

Loosely inspired by Weyard in the Golden Sun games

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-obi-wan-now-thats-a-name-ive-not-heard-in-along-time-gif-11814407

[ripe obsidian]

Not a biography, but this is also a good watch/listen: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=90b1MBwnEHM

[strong gulch]

ggs @hearty wolf @gray juniper @visual phoenix

[ripe obsidian]

Oops.

[gray juniper]

Gg

[ripe obsidian]

Golden Sun, particularly The Lost Age, was one of my formative games. It influenced a lot of how I think/thought about fantasy.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-winning-son-meme-son-gif-1432509823038791530

[gray juniper]

@strong gulch btw is this a pinging mod of some type? Hilarious

[pale prairie]

It was very good. Loved the game. Lost age felt not as good as the first but overall amazing

[ripe obsidian]

I always liked TLA more, but I know I am in the minority. I mostly liked the larger world and exploration, as well as the plot around the world dying. The villainous duo was not as memorable, though

[pale prairie]

See I like the world opening up. I disliked the changes perspective. I had dozens of hours with Isaac and his group and he’s clearly the self input character and yet they make me play randos lmao

[strong gulch]

It's a mod. I have a DH keybind. I will figure out which mod does it.

[ripe obsidian]

I got my cats a new toy.

[strong gulch]

🥺

I have thought about getting one of those.

[paper oriole]

The second one was jealous 😆

[ripe obsidian]

That is fair. I don't have strong connections to either party, for some reason. Nothing about them made me feel super attached, so the party change was interesting to me rather than frustrating. I enjoyed learning the different side of the story.

[upper sun]

high quality cat

[gray juniper]

I’m console so just curiosity only but Ty for explaining because it’s a good one

[strong gulch]

I know you're on console, but the mod is called "Quick Chat". I also have to set to when crates are deployed.

[radiant frigate]

extremely fluffy

[ripe obsidian]

He is the fluffiest.

Even fluffier in winter.

[strong gulch]

I love looking at fluffy kitties.

[gray juniper]

Beautiful cats. That’s how my cat would act like what the black one did

[gray juniper]

Very handy

[strong gulch]

The grooming tho.

The constant long fluffs in my eye lashes, eyeballs, coffee, etc 😭

[gray juniper]

lol

Yea I can’t handle anything more than domestic short hair

Too much allergy. Much eye water

[strong gulch]

They are all the same for me allergy wise.

Oh yeah. I'm allergic to cats. 💀

[gray juniper]

Same

[ripe obsidian]

The black cat, Katterdemalia, has endless energy. She has chaos in her heart.

[pale prairie]

Love the fluff

[gray juniper]

This is ok. I like watching my cat be foolish

[ripe obsidian]

High quality floofs.

[gray juniper]

@strong gulch the longer hairs don’t irritate the allergies more? I’m wondering if I can handle it too

[strong gulch]

Not to my knowledge. It can vary based on breed. But some of the longer haired varieties are more allergy friendly.

same cat

[ripe obsidian]

The void stares back.

[strong gulch]

not same cat

[gray juniper]

I read up on it some and apparently it’s from their saliva, not even the hair, which is odd considering most resources get that wrong

So I’m so lost on which will make me eye water least lmao

[paper oriole]

Hand reveal 🫣

[pale prairie]

Feet are extra

[strong gulch]

Yeah it's acombo of things. Dander, saliva, and waste.

[paper oriole]

No need

[pale prairie]

They lick their coats and then the allergens evaporate into the air as dander dust and shed hair

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/kira-anime-serious-look-up-gif-12447667

[marble crater]

What is dander

[pale prairie]

Not even my hand lmao

I think it’s a friend’s

[gray juniper]

@strong gulch I was hand wrestling with the cat before the game and forgot we did that, so I touched my eye and it was watering the whole game

[pale prairie]

Shed skin typically from scalp

[strong gulch]

More or less skin that's been shed from animals with hair, fur, or feathers.

[marble crater]

I know that as dandruff, unless they are different

[pale prairie]

DEAD AND WEAK FLESH THAT I SHED IN FAVOR OF METAL

[strong gulch]

So in this case, dead cat skin that's shedding around. But there's a bunch of stuff on skin in general plus what the critter does; like laying in whatever or licking themselves.

[gray juniper]

You will NOT de-fluff the cat! 👿 ✋

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/help-me-cat-cats-tiedup-gif-26435735

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-heresy-meme-gif-27213968

[marble crater]

Thanks, even though I will probably forget dander again

[pale prairie]

Niche knowledge is born to die

[strong gulch]

To be fair, you don't need to remember it.

[gray juniper]

True

[marble crater]

Yeah, I have a dog but no cat

[gray juniper]

Ngl I can stick my whole face into cats belly and be fine but if she gnaws on my hand and I don’t wash it I’ll be tearing up forever

[candid temple]

Inferno staff with Psykinetic is , when the randoms also have no ranged.

[marble crater]

That's what you get for relying on randoms

[ripe obsidian]

What do these hieroglyphs mean

[candid temple]

You can click on them to see what they mean.

[paper oriole]

It’s a team game, you have to 🙂‍↕️

[gray juniper]

That’s dying inside guy

Who ironically was a pretty happy guy when they interviewed him

[candid temple]

well, with cshotty or voidstrike I can basically manage all specials and disablers

[marble crater]

Just play Shriek EK with Illisi and BB

[trail scroll]

I'm kinda seeing why I was told Greatsword/FS + Bolter Pistol + Assail is fun to play

[radiant frigate]

because it is

better with reconlas though

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-shapiro-fact-check-true-gif-20427172

[visual phoenix]

We should play again sometime, ending on the L is bobo

[strong gulch]

Agree.

[radiant frigate]

overall, Bigsword Knives Reconlas is peak buildcraft

for both psyker and zealot

[ripe obsidian]

Big weapons are best weapons

My current Elden Ring character is power stancing colossal greatswords

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/one-for-all-all-for-one-one-for-all-all-for-one-together-all-together-gif-14955123

[upper sun]

bros......

[plucky flax]

Imagine taking ls

[upper sun]

the left keystone penance is bugged on arby

i cant ping while reviving

game unplayable frfr

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/bers-gif-25504701

[gray juniper]

Hammer and recon isn’t bad for zealot either. Reginald has laspistol for his set up and I see how that works a little better for its function

[radiant frigate]

only thing i know of reginald is something a friend sent me

where he sings the praises of heavy sword

(entirely incomprehensible)

[gray juniper]

Which is weird but the rest of his takes worked out for me so far

[radiant frigate]

i kinda wish heavy sword was any good

[gray juniper]

By the name it should be good but it’s not

I tried it for a moment on zealot and was like fuck no

[trail scroll]

Will try that next!

[radiant frigate]

especially bad on zealot because the melee needs to do a lot of heavy lifting on that class

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-sitting-berserk-relax-waiting-gif-11623573

[radiant frigate]

someone at fatshark really said "let's make the worst melee weapon in our entire roster and then make it a zealot exclusive"

until it was released to the other two

[glacial vapor]

Heavy sword slander

[thorn cedar]

Average DarkTider when a weapon can't trivialize every single enemy type in the game

[gray juniper]

Who are you talkin’ to buddy?

[radiant frigate]

more like when a weapon has no discernible use case

[gray juniper]

Near identical and better options on both classes

[radiant frigate]

want horde clear? can just use dclaw too, and then at least you have a semblance of armor damage with your parry, although gimmicky

[glacial vapor]

The heavy sword haters

[radiant frigate]

and that is available to all

[candid temple]

heavy sword is just from an older age
An Elegant Weapon for a More Civilized Age.

[gray juniper]

[ripe obsidian]

The average Auric player is... not impressing me today.

[radiant frigate]

or shovel on vet, or illisi on psyker, or chainsword on either

[glacial vapor]

Dclaw? Good horde clear? Wait until a bunch of bruisers show up

[radiant frigate]

all of which do better vs armor still

[radiant frigate]

hsword is just a parry-less dclaw

[glacial vapor]

Heavy sword has miles better horde clear and can stagger ragers out of their combo with the special

[radiant frigate]

albeit better blessing pool because it has Big Headtaker

[radiant frigate]

not an argument because dclaw special does the same

[gray juniper]

See this makes sense. That’s all that would really need to be said

[radiant frigate]

ok but consider that in that older age, it still sucked

[glacial vapor]

It is, since HS has way better horde clear and doesn't require parries to do anything worth a damn

[thorn cedar]

I'm just going to assume this is bait because that's as generous as I can be with your interpretation

[glacial vapor]

It's not ideal for all builds, but if you just need some horde clear with the occasional rager deletion, it's fantastic

[merry meteor]

okay, may be I just stupid, but how do I move that bar of Peril Gauge mod somewhere around here?

or the default peril gauge, anything would work

[verbal thistle]

custom hud mod

[merry meteor]

or is there a better mod?

[radiant frigate]

name a weapon other than the hyperspecialized dueling sword that doesn't fill that niche

[merry meteor]

let me check, thanks

[glacial vapor]

Chainsword, shock maul

Only illisi has decent horde clear out of the ome handed swords

[merry meteor]

will it also show remaining dodges, or should I keep the separate mod I use for that?

[glacial vapor]

And if the purpose of your build is to get the bullshit out of your face so you can get back to space magic, Heavy sword does well in that role

[verbal thistle]

Numeric UI has that built in

the dodge counter

[radiant frigate]

honestly i do not know what shock maul even does

[verbal thistle]

damage

[glacial vapor]

Quite good single target, Bulwark abuse with the special

It's unyielding is sad though

Which is a bit unfortunate on psyker

[jovial juniper]

It's good against everything but monstrosities

Unironically mid

[ripe obsidian]

I just beat the Black Blade Kindred outside of Gurranq's church at level 68 with power stanced colossal swords. It was much easier than doing it at level 68 with power stanced int katanas. Seems to be a trend with every playthrough that I fight him at exactly that level.

[hearty wolf]

Oh I'm playing Elden Ring right now too

I haven't killed BBK yet

I'm doing it coop and it has a couple of modifiers

[glossy ridge]

for inferno staff whats the weapon worst stat? also for electro staff

[hearty wolf]

One of them being that enemies have 50% more damage so after doing BBK at like level 40, I haven't been back lul

[ripe obsidian]

Doing him at level 40 is masochism.

He still one-shots me with literally any attack at level 68

I've done an int/dex build with Moonveil/Uchigatana + whatever staff, now I am doing a full strength unga bunga build, and I have an arcane character languishing, unused

[ripe obsidian]

Dump warp resist on every staff not named Voidstrike. On that one, dump blast radius

[glossy ridge]

thanks i thought reducing generation is good cause more attacks,ohhh also for dueling sword what perks to run and blessins

[radiant frigate]

elden ring is cool but i very much do not like one thing about its design

and that is just how l2-centric it is when it comes to anything vaguely threatening

[ripe obsidian]

Is it?

I genuinely don't know

I am mostly using stat buff L2s on my current character. I will admit that like 50% of my dex/int character was Moonveil L2, and the other half was casting spells

[radiant frigate]

option 1 is learning movesets and how to counter them
option 2 is mashing l2 and winning

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Resist has surprisingly little impact on peril generation, to the point that quelling for 2 ticks with 60 Quell Speed is worse than quelling for 2 ticks with ~45 Warp Resist

[glossy ridge]

ooooh

[ripe obsidian]

I believe I could get 3 attacks with 80 quell speed and 45 warp resist, but only 2 with 80 WR and 60 quell speed. I would have to double check

[ripe obsidian]

I guess it depends on the L2? Something like Moonveil or Blasphemous Blade, I absolutely agree. I've been using probably weaker L2s on my current character, though.

[radiant frigate]

even with various stance attacks

like basic straight sword big shank/upswing

or sheathe

it just hits 3x as hard as anything else and 3x as much posture damage

[ripe obsidian]

My unga bunga playstyle right now is mostly press L2 for cragblade or some other stat boost, then jump attack. It's simple and I will likely get bored of it eventually, but for now it is entertaining

[glossy ridge]

thanks so what to run on dueling sword perks and blessing?

[radiant frigate]

so it just does hilarious burst damage and then extends those burst windows with crits

[ripe obsidian]

Probably Flak/Carapace and Uncanny/Riposte or the one that's +finesse on dodge. I don't know the full list of blessings offhand

[radiant frigate]

you speak of precognition

[ripe obsidian]

Is that much different than other Fromsoft games? I have only played Bloodborne and ER

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

[radiant frigate]

absolutely

[glossy ridge]

relentless is not good? also how is staff dmg on armor

[ripe obsidian]

Bloodborne, for me, was mostly failing to parry and hitting things with the cane whip from a distance

[ripe obsidian]

Relentless is +damage on repeated hit? It's probably fine, depending on the use case. Better against bosses. But the difference is that it requires multiple hits to scale, whereas Precog and Riposte are both instant bonuses on dodge. And Uncanny is a massive damage boost.

[radiant frigate]

relentless is good if you want to build a dedicated bosskilling sword

i can see it working well with inferno or blaze trauma

with +cara +unyielding uncanny relentless

[glossy ridge]

ohhh thanks for the inputsss

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't run Dueling Sword for a bit. Swapped to Deimos because Deflector keeps my scrawny psyker body from exploding when a gunner looks at me

[ripe obsidian]

Are Weapon Arts a thing in other games? I know the BB equivalent is trick weapons, but that's not really the same thing.

[radiant frigate]

they are in ds3 but they are nowhere near as strong

[weary idol]

yeah L2s didn't exist until DS3

[radiant frigate]

they're just an extra move

[weary idol]

And they're about comparably strong in that game

Or well the good ones are anyways

the ashes of war in ER are all about as strong as the good weapon arts in DS3

With some being more so, especially on unique weapons

And some being absolutely useless in PvE like storm stomp

[granite mauve]

nah u see it's totally useful when facing one of the 5 npcs you can fight

like madness

[weary idol]

madness is useful in PvE

not the status effect

but every fuckin' thing that inflicts madness does 9 billion damage

[granite mauve]

i'm talking about the buildup

[weary idol]

oh yeah that sucks

[granite mauve]

not on urself

because proc'ing it can be useful

in pve

[ripe obsidian]

I think most of my boss fights on my int/dex character were a combo of Moonveil L2s and the rock sling spell to get staggers and critical hits.

And then a lot of frantic dodging in between

[weary idol]

I'm running an Int/Faith build mostly using similar spell combos and spamming Discus of Light

Currently using Rellana's Twin Blades in the DLC

The L2 does a lotta damage against big boys but it's not really safe to do

[granite mauve]

discus of light my beloved

[granite mauve]

champion of my incant only run

[ripe obsidian]

I have not yet purchased the DLC

[radiant frigate]

nor have i

[granite mauve]

it's very good

[ripe obsidian]

Incantations seem largely more fun and more interesting than int spells

And more varied

There are only so many varieties of blue sword and purple rock

[weary idol]

there's the magma sorceries from Mt.Gelmir

and death sorceries from assorted deathbirds in random ass locations on the map

[granite mauve]

first time i played elden ring i was obsessed with the cipher pata and the coded sword because the concept was cool as hell

too bad 80% the bosses are from the holy order of being made of pure holiness

shit was tough

[marble crater]

Even holiness can bleed

[ripe obsidian]

I did not know they existed. Did not do volcano manor quests. Felt mean to kill random NPCs for no reason

[weary idol]

only one of the four is from the actual questline

all 3 others are just found in the manor dungeon itself

Rykard's Rancor is one of them

[ripe obsidian]

But Incantations have fire and lightning and healing and light blasts and dragon stuff and rock throws and...

[weary idol]

oh wait no

2 of the 4

Magma Shot and Gelmir's Fury

Roiling Magma and Rykard's Rancor don't require the questline

[ripe obsidian]

Blood, black fire, crucible, frenzy, rot...

[weary idol]

yeah sorcery has a bit less variety aesthetically

just because the Crystalian, Carian, and Glintstone sorceries are all blue

[ripe obsidian]

And they all do the same damage type, afaik

But Sorceries have Azur's Comet, so big point in its favor

[weary idol]

The Gravity, Magma, Thorn, and Death sorceries are all quite different though

And the Cold based ones

[ripe obsidian]

It feels like 80% Blue Magic and 20% other things

Anyway, right now I am enjoying unga bunga full strength build. I'll probably try faith+arcane or something next time around

[weary idol]

the bubbles are kinda cute too

[ripe obsidian]

My issue with replaying games is that I often remember like 90% of the dungeon layouts and item locations and boss movesets, so the replay feels somewhat hollow. Not a lot to surprise me or make me excited. It's more... replay for comfort and turning my brain off.

Is why I like Darktide, actually. Fast enough pacing to keep my attention, but not so mentally demanding as an RPG where I have to make choices and ponder lore. It's the right middle area to make my brain happy.

[gray juniper]

Kind of like resident evil

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/malenia-elden-ring-elden-ring-dance-gif-9116296690986989941

[gray juniper]

So good on the first play throughs. Not so much on the alternate runs

[radiant frigate]

counterpoint^

[ripe obsidian]

I need more information to understand the counterpoint.

[radiant frigate]

i think malenia speaks for herself

[ripe obsidian]

In what way? D:

That she's a hard fight?

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pyramid-head-barbie-cosplay-silent-hill-pink-gif-5850286602807141334

[ripe obsidian]

Because she is a very hard fight. I cheesed to win.

[radiant frigate]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Santa Baby, just put a pyramid head under the tree, for me. I've been an awful bad guy, Santa baby. So send me straight to Silent Hill.

[gray juniper]

I’m fuckin dying

[waxen pollen]

pyramid head made me shit myself a good number of times in the remake 😞

[radiant frigate]

pyramid head (slayer skin)

[ripe obsidian]

She's one of the fights where I wish I could just talk to her instead of fighting. "Hey, Malenia, I found Miquella. I can take you there."

[gray juniper]

That dude and tyrant make me unreasonably unsettled

[waxen pollen]

mr x ?

[gray juniper]

Yes

[waxen pollen]

eh.

[ripe obsidian]

Also wish I could talk to Morgott.

[waxen pollen]

he was scary for like

the first few hours

then he just becomes annoying .

like. really annoying

[gray juniper]

I only played RE2 remake

[marble crater]

That rot brain wouldn't have believed you

[gray juniper]

Those heavy boots everywhere and when he’s close the camera darkens around the edges like I could feel Leon wincing

On second playthrough it was like “oh hey tyrant funny seeing you here” and run past

Did the library thing with him in the room doing circles to save time for S run

[waxen pollen]

i remember shooting his hat off and immediately booking it on the first encounter

[gray juniper]

I knew of resident evil rules so I didn’t bother knowing he was invincible

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, maybe. But I want to try

[gray juniper]

Pyramid head was probably worse because it’s like you had no were to go

You youngins will never know of silent hill 1 and the creepy baby monsters in the sewers

[deft stump]

You mean in the school.

[gray juniper]

Both now that I’m thinking about it

[deft stump]

I like Silent Hill btw.

[gray juniper]

Different flavors of weird squawking and grabbing your legs

[deft stump]

Just awkward since... child looking and school.

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-skeletons-skeleton-dancing-gif-27569893

[deft stump]

Think they got censored out in a version.

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud-yelling-cloud-angry-gif-6552644208249853237

[hardy delta]

is psyker's talant tree also like ogryn's and arbi's
or also needs to be updated