psyker-class

[plucky flax]

Buff timer

[summer prairie]

no

Uptime

[plucky flax]

Stack timer.

SOMETHING TIME

Anyway havoc don't spawn enough dd marks.

So they really need to update dd to the level of EO marks.

[visual phoenix]

Its one of the new ones?

Cant remember if i saw it or not

[plucky flax]

Yeah new ish.

I think came out last week got a big update on monday I think?

Or sunday.

Where they claimed to fix the hud.

[fresh reef]

Woe, poxwalker horde with no gunners or maulers be upon ye

Cry about it

[visual phoenix]

Now i want to play with it

Yet il stay with vermintide for now

I bet this mod will bust my chances of memory leaks even more :(

[plucky flax]

I retire from havoc.

No karien to carry me.

[deft stump]

You know I rather that than gunners and maulers.

[deft stump]

I thought you rather weekends?

[visual phoenix]

No rewards

Its funny how aurics still gives me more ordos than havoc

[plucky flax]

Play the rot armoured event.

It's piss easy but it's funny.

[visual phoenix]

I fall asleep on this one

[deft stump]

Luck based mission.

[plucky flax]

Luck how?

It's so easy can afk through it on minimal brain power.

[visual phoenix]

I gues i should do it for the portrait

[plucky flax]

Only time I had to slog through it was all 3 teammates died and left so I had to finish by meself.

35 mins auric

[visual phoenix]

But its rly just nothingburger

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's promoting more melee though.

Which is good for normal players cos they suck ass at it.

[visual phoenix]

True

Thats why they should buff infernus again

[fresh reef]

Sometimes when the rotten armor horde shows up I just step back and watch

It's like a nature documentary

[deft stump]

7 waves in a wave. If I wasn't BTL shock mines Arby, we would have wiped so many times.

[fresh reef]

The wild veteran, in its unnatural habitat, jumping instead of dodging

[plucky flax]

Maybe you guys just suck bad.

I duno they are just regular crushers and maulers.

Like civi

But you have ammo.

[deft stump]

When I actually drop the mines and everything can be seen... just...

[plucky flax]

To kill specials with.

[visual phoenix]

Grab voidblast gg

That are those green guys doing anyways?

[plucky flax]

They create pox gas on death.

[deft stump]

2 fury zealots, 1 stealth vet and me.

[visual phoenix]

I completed like 2 and the only difference i saw is that they slowed a bit?

[plucky flax]

It's a non issue on ogryn and arby with high toughness regen.

On psyker if you stand in it meleeing like me it hurts a bit. D:

But plenty of healing anyway.

[visual phoenix]

Like on pox gas affix?

[deft stump]

You took pox gas missions then.

[plucky flax]

Yeah a cloud of pox gas.

[deft stump]

We had 2 health stims.

[visual phoenix]

Ok this is piss easy then

Idk

[plucky flax]

Wrong.

No pox gas.

[deft stump]

Cos we looted and still only had 2 health stimms.

[plucky flax]

All under 20 mins lol just run ahead and kill all the armours.

So it basically disable the modifier for other players.

You are super pro karien.

Just play better and carry them like you do in havoc.

[visual phoenix]

Just like any sub havoc stuff

[plucky flax]

No whining.

[visual phoenix]

Truth nuke

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-walter-white-walter-white-absolute-cinema-white-walter-absolute-gif-10929974052418095046

[plucky flax]

Don't need shock mines for this anyway.

Only like 6 or 7 elites can target you at a time.

And you were on arby so they die in 2 or 3 hits.

[visual phoenix]

Any source of gold thoughness is still op if you have some difficult times

[deft stump]

I was at 300 ping. Half my damage don't even happen.

[visual phoenix]

[deft stump]

Hell, I'm praying the server doesn't shit itself and DC me.

[visual phoenix]

Its usualy optimization stuff no?

[plucky flax]

Maybe play local server?

[deft stump]

No, I have issues with some EU servers. I get DCs when playing with some ppl due to the server being selected.

[deft stump]

What do you do when you wanna play with friends?

[plucky flax]

If they want to play with me they play my server.

Because #imworthit

[deft stump]

What do you think I do.

[marble crater]

Flame people

[plucky flax]

You flamed me just now without even knowing my mission status.

[hearty wolf]

I swear my aurics aren't yellow

Why are yours piss coloured

[summer prairie]

it's because he changed some tag or dog tag colors

and it uses those

[paper oriole]

To remind you to go piss on Thatcher’s grave 🫡

[hearty wolf]

Weird random take but ok zundu

[hearty wolf]

Interesting

[plucky flax]

It's from enhanced description mod I think.

[hearty wolf]

I'm gonna get that uptime timing thing now

[summer prairie]

might be that too

[hearty wolf]

Seems useful for evaluation

[paper oriole]

I seen a few memes about it yesterday 🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

Can't wait to play bubble knight this weekend to average 5 stacks.

[deft stump]

I see you wanna carry then.

[paper oriole]

What does zundu mean thoe?

[plucky flax]

Nein you carry.

[deft stump]

Nu, you.

[marble crater]

I wanted to go grocery shopping

[deft stump]

Why not?

[marble crater]

Because it's raining

[deft stump]

Umbrellas exist.

[marble crater]

Umbrellas aren't real, you fell for the Rihanna gaslighting and propaganda

[jovial juniper]

You've been ella'd ella'd eh'd eh'd

[marble crater]

Looks like it stopped, time to go

[paper oriole]

Are you not made from sugar, you won’t melt in the rain 😁

[tulip kettle]

explain

please

[marble crater]

My grandma always said I'm a sweet boy, I just might be made out of sugar

[tulip kettle]

34 mins, no twins

[marble crater]

Skill issue

[tulip kettle]

only 9 boss instead of 12

and its assasination mission so should be 1 more than usual

[marble crater]

Boss spawns adapt to the skill of the team

[visual phoenix]

Cant remember if i had anything with that, rather bunch of memory leaks. Yet i do need to grind those missions, if you up

[paper oriole]

Grandma always knows best 🫡

[tulip kettle]

now

we all said after game

that it was super smooth and we all just moving forward the whole time with coherency literally 100% of the game

[deft stump]

I finished them already, just playing with friends who haven't.

[tulip kettle]

idk i think this one just felt noticeably different and i wonder if something changed

[visual phoenix]

Uhhh
Its something about spawns n stuff

I do remeber 1 h40 sychorax map that ee completed for around 14-15 min

The second oart of the map, the spiral thingy was just complete empty

[tulip kettle]

its weird because its still 3.2k enemies

which is a usual sort of number

[visual phoenix]

My prediction is that we havent killed a lot of stuff so they just decided to not spawn things since there is enough on the map

But im stupid enough to not engage in those researches

[tulip kettle]

admittedly no purple means lowers dmg numbers but idk it just felt almost like auric and i wonder if its something to do with the fact we all stayed coherency the whole game

[visual phoenix]

If anyone that i know, probably some speedrun zealots might know anything about it
Usual thing on such lobbys

[visual phoenix]

Looks normal to me idk

3.something mil dmg is ok for 30 mins

[summer prairie]

sometimes hordes get bugged or you just otherwise get fewer

[tulip kettle]

idk like i said its only 9 bosses as well and should be 13 because chasm station

[summer prairie]

due to maybe not clearing them

[tulip kettle]

no twins

[visual phoenix]

What map was it?

[tulip kettle]

chasm station

[visual phoenix]

I think i did one recently

Il found one when i get home

Maybe there is not a lot of differences

[visual phoenix]

And the modifiers?

[tulip kettle]

toll and rampage

[visual phoenix]

Tollllll :((((

[tulip kettle]

wasnt a problem for us

[visual phoenix]

Dont likeee

[tulip kettle]

stuff just dying

[visual phoenix]

Thats true, if running bubble

But im vent enjoyer

Giving cc immune gets me

[tulip kettle]

yeah i usually dont like toll, its not as bad as garden, the both together is aids.

But this one it just felt like we were never even threatened, anything that turned red would die within a second anyway. The only issue was getting trapper wombo combod in tight spaces which happened twice

and no twins its just so weird, i cant remember the last 40 i did with no twins

[visual phoenix]

I havent played new havoc that much
Is it a purple one?

[tulip kettle]

toll is red unstaggerable, garden is purple healing, rampage is orange damage resist

[novel yoke]

bros, is there something like power DI but without like 90% of the stats
something simple like VT's endgame screen?

[tulip kettle]

yeah its called "scoreboard"

most people use it with "ovenproofs plug in"

[visual phoenix]

You can customise scoreboard yet it will take some time

[tulip kettle]

both are on nexus

[novel yoke]

thanks, Ill check them out

[visual phoenix]

The others are ez, no?

As we call them "scoreboard runs"

[tulip kettle]

i mean its all fine just red + purple can be major problems

because stuff becomes unstaggerable and also healing

[visual phoenix]

[tulip kettle]

when you have 16 unstaggerable healing bulwarks you have a major problem

[summer prairie]

11.44 stack average with Perfection in havoc, didn't finish but 38 minutes

it was a scab map, so more armor than normal so maybe on a dreg map it's fine, but it was also essentially a 3 man

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah the uptime mod is a thing now

[upper sun]

ur not made of sugar

[marble crater]

We have been over this already 🙄
My grandma called me sweet boy, so yes I am

[upper sun]

🤔

i have zero comebacks

[marble crater]

Yeah

[paper oriole]

We have a brain cell in common 😆

[gray juniper]

Man German & east European nature is so beautiful. I miss that

[upper sun]

its my turn on it

LAY OFF

[strong gulch]

There's plugin to help customize the scoreboard too. Ovenproof is more accurate than the vanilla scoreboard but it takes other plugins to update it. There is a plugin that makes it more similar to VT2.

[paper oriole]

Are you also from EU?

[upper sun]

not from here but i am studying here

[marble crater]

I'm lucky to have a park right in front of my door and past that is the river

[paper oriole]

Autumn is slowing creeping in that’s when reaches peak 👌

[paper oriole]

Nice, best of luck with next finals 🙂 In winter 😅

[gray juniper]

This is true

[upper sun]

i dont mind the cold tbh

[marble crater]

Okay Elsa

[upper sun]

weather tolerance is in ur head simply tell your body to regulate itself more

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

BRAIN MAKE ME COOLER NOW
BRAIN BURN MORE BODYFAT FOR WARMTH NOW

[paper oriole]

Cold > hot
It is easier to just put more clothes on

[upper sun]

ye

also i want to eat hot soups/stews

cant do that in the summer

[marble crater]

Yes you can

[paper oriole]

It is better in winter

[upper sun]

in the summer it makes me sweat like a mfer

[paper oriole]

Same as hot chocolate

Hot chocolate in winter while a soft snowfall is present is a peak experience 👌🫴

[marble crater]

At this rate we won't have a lot of opportunities to experience that anymore, had snow last winter, but basically none for a few years before that

[paper oriole]

I feel you, from months of snow now we only get 2 weeks 😦

Gotta travel into the mountains for that

[upper sun]

its okie i saw visions of a massive coldfront next winter will be massive

[paper oriole]

Trips to Weihnachtsmarkt in Berlin are as they used to be, gotta savour those memories and moments that will come

[paper oriole]

Hope 😁

[upper sun]

dont they have homeless people where you're from

thats most of what i saw in berlin

[paper oriole]

To few 😛

Last time I saw one was 5 months ago, one was sleeping in the apartment building

[marble crater]

Berlin

[paper oriole]

It is closeby 🤷‍♂️

[marble crater]

But it's Berlin

[upper sun]

go to austria christmas markets there are peak

[paper oriole]

True, still got to travel there a few times in a year

I believe but Berlin is just too close, to Austria I would need to make plans and book a hotel

[upper sun]

i wanna say greece too but i dont think christmas markets are a big tradition there

[paper oriole]

Berlin 1 day adventure + some friends live there

[upper sun]

people mostly stay home with family

[paper oriole]

To be honest, this sounds a lot better 😂

[pale prairie]

Hah this is pretty funny

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/VV6aJAm3uK

[paper oriole]

Where do you recommend elsewhere?

I have been to Frankfurt in winter and was the same 🤷‍♂️

[gray juniper]

The gas bomb at the end really sells it

[paper oriole]

If we took gameplay as cannon then psyker would easily be like near top power level - beta class or gamma

[pale prairie]

The fucking Muties kills me

[upper sun]

they need to add spectator mode frfr

[pale prairie]

Yeah like some kind of in game screen or console where you could watch currently running squads sorted by difficulty

Could sit back and watch while waiting for havoc pubs

[marble crater]

For nice winter feeling the south, also Erfurt and Dresden have nice Christmas markets

[upper sun]

yeah would be cool to watch some action while you're waiting

[pale prairie]

This is good footage but it makes me chuckle that the one Ogryn is dead and the 3 arbites are up and relatively healthy

[upper sun]

yea poor guy was struggling

[pale prairie]

Would probably super help new players with understanding how play works especially at higher difficulties. Going through the lower ones as a I level a new character has been…enlightening

[paper oriole]

Could be, I will see. Berlin is 1.5h away, these two are over 8 :/
Will depend on the mood

[marble crater]

Yeah probably not worth it, I also haven't been, don't care much for Christmas markets myself

[strong gulch]

Hi

[paper oriole]

Hello

Or

Good Morrow

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-look-at-the-sun-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-good-morning-sunny-day-so-good-weather-gif-21430455

Me but deadpan and it's the middle of the night.

Except my body pulled a funny and I am actually waking up in the morning now.

[gray juniper]

Drinking my my morning coffee with the lights off

Have to ease into this good morning thing

[marble crater]

Hi

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-clint-eastwood-man-with-no-name-howdy-hello-gif-11628498

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-princess-hello-kitty-hello-kitten-hwello-pwincess-discord-mod-gif-8006257255753720434

[strong gulch]

I woke up to cats fighting. So I was up in an instant.

https://tenor.com/view/im-up-im-awake-ready-lets-go-gif-9580855

[ornate hamlet]

Does anyone have a good blaze force greatsword build by chance

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[gray juniper]

That’s very noisy and concerning. Definitely not the morning joe you wanted

[pale prairie]

You will find many bubble knight enthusiasts here

[strong gulch]

cara + unyielding with any combo of blessings that aren't murderous tranq, warp slice, or blazing spirit

unstable, crit blessings, etc are the combos to get

[ornate hamlet]

I got unstable and riposte

[ornate hamlet]

Cheers

Which mk do you guys prefer?

Iv been using the 8

[gray juniper]

I heard a huge fight outside the front door one night and when i looked I swear the neighbors cat was trying to kill another one. He had the smaller one by the neck digging in. Didn’t give a shit and stomping and clapping at him

[paper oriole]

What gotten you unstable?
Must have been a horrific experience

[pale prairie]

It depends on personal preference. Mk 8 is better at horde clear slightly because of the more horizontal lights. Mk 6 is slightly better at killing elites and monstrosities cause the heavy chain is easy and good

[gray juniper]

(Mk 6 is much better cough)

(*at killing elites cough)

[pale prairie]

Lmao I read that as Mk 8

[ornate hamlet]

I'm gonna try out the 6

[pine shore]

mk 6 is best

shred wrath and go murder things

[pale prairie]

Just requires a little bit of fiddling to understand the best combos

[sinful peak]

the mk8 heavy spam is amazing for elites tho

and pa stab

[pale prairie]

I do love me a safe push attack

[pine shore]

mk 6 is better

It literally has better heavy attacks and that's why you use it

[gray juniper]

If you try out both they’re really both fine. The true reason to use one or the other is the ranged weapon’s weakness that you pair it with

[pine shore]

You don't need to pa to get a stab, a stab is just your h2

what weakness can your ranged have that mk 6 can't deal with

[gray juniper]

I have both great swords pre-setup to use for different weapon combos

[ornate hamlet]

I'm pairing w the Zarona

[pine shore]

I don't understand, why ever use 8 over 6

The only reason is if you really really really want to

[paper oriole]

Yes, both weapons are fine
They are GREATswords after all 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

Which one would you guys pair w the zarona

[pine shore]

Both are good weapons

[gray juniper]

@ornate hamlet you can play it safe with the heavy 1 & 2 combo on greatsword 6. Get an idea of reach with the first heavy then just push in with the stab which is the second heavy. Repeat on rager packs, but probably most wise to use a push attack if three or more

[pine shore]

but 6 is just better

[sinful peak]

better lights

[ornate hamlet]

I want to try be able to do auric on my psyker I can do auric most other classes

[gray juniper]

Shotgun or revolver?

[ornate hamlet]

Revolver my bad

The 8 does have pretty nice lights I noticed

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s pretty good. @pale prairie does revolver have carapace penetration?

I assume by default it doesn’t because it’s a pistol

[pine shore]

I've never had trouble horde clearing with a 6. Any combo of
l1 l2 swap cancel
light spam
push light heavy
l1 l2 l3 heavy

just kills everything

and having a stab on h2 and not pa is insane

[ornate hamlet]

I feel like the greatswords infinite cleave is v usefull

Very fun anyway

[gray juniper]

@ornate hamlet you’re probably better off sticking to the fast horde clear of the viii if you’re going to use the revolver

[sinful peak]

mk8 lightspam hordeclear is just braindead. I never had trouble with elite killing, crushers easily die in 2 hits

[ornate hamlet]

Okay thanks for the advice

[pine shore]

with mk 6 they die in one hit

[sinful peak]

well no you have to get to the stab

[pine shore]

The stab is even slower with mk 8

[sinful peak]

you don't need the stab with mk8

[pale prairie]

I honestly haven’t really used guns on psyker hahaha. I think with a good crit on a headshot it will take out a crusher. Probably definitely with some DD stacks

[ornate hamlet]

They go down fast w scriers active

[gray juniper]

That’s the problem. It needs too much and definitely most of the chamber to kill a heavy

[ornate hamlet]

Like 1 or 2 shots

[pine shore]

It will probably still take at least 2 shots

and you also need hand cannon to do carapace damage

[gray juniper]

For a newer player it’s better to recommend the sword + push attacking on crushers and bulwarks

[ornate hamlet]

I have hand cannon on my revolver

[gray juniper]

That’s wise

[ornate hamlet]

And surgical

[pine shore]

Zarona is an awesome specialist sniper

[pale prairie]

Oh yeah and don’t sleep on the warp attack. Does a lot of damage. And ideally you want to have the Warp Resistance as low as possible to keep Peril(and its bonuses) as high as possible

[gray juniper]

I haven’t tried it myself because completely honest I don’t have faith in the little gun to try that lol

[pine shore]

Not so awesome vs packs of elites

and crushers

[gray juniper]

Same! Good combo

[pine shore]

I use it on my zealot mostly

[ornate hamlet]

I have my dump stat as warp resistance

[gray juniper]

I may as well do that. Revolver used by me is for maniacs and gunners

[ornate hamlet]

All my weapons are min maxed I just need 2 curios that change 1% and my charecters fully maxed

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/licence-to-kill-james-bond-gun-tiny-gun-bond-gif-8130062613314089511

[pine shore]

It's rng

My psyker is level 300+ and I still don't have maxed curios

[gray juniper]

Should’ve followed Bond’s lead

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah my ogryn and vet have their max curios

[pale prairie]

I just found out that some of the stamina curious are deceptive

[pine shore]

also that

[ornate hamlet]

My arbite is missing one last 17%

[pine shore]

how are you so lucky

[ornate hamlet]

I know about the 400s being false

Oh I have 300 hours

[pine shore]

I spent thousands of melk bucks and didn't get ANYTHING

[ornate hamlet]

Just new to psyker

[pine shore]

I have almost 1000 hours

[ornate hamlet]

Oh

[pale prairie]

Damn you pissed off the fat shark

[mental rock]

I spent 50k melks on curios and didn't get a single 17%tough

[ornate hamlet]

Alot of the time I'll get them from the store

Not even melk

[paper oriole]

The Emperor Protects Sibling 😇

[pine shore]

broo SAMEEEE

[pale prairie]

Yikes I have yet to start gambling to get my max curios for my Ogryn and y’all are scaring me

[sacred surge]

Damn meele Psyker so good

I actually enjoying the class

[ornate hamlet]

Do you guys agree psykers abit easier than vet rn

[tulip kettle]

getting maxed toughness curios means my psyker has exactly 100 toughness in havoc

which just feels nice

[pale prairie]

Yeah one of the pros here said basically it’s hella OP until you get hit once

[sacred surge]

I found build with Gandalf pic

[pale prairie]

Depends on the situation and team

[hearty wolf]

Depends lol

VoC is press F bot

[tulip kettle]

yeah i cant lie i dont agre with that

[sacred surge]

Depends on players

[hearty wolf]

Inferno is press m1

But you need to press spacebar sometimes

[ornate hamlet]

I'm finding it easier running the same difficulty maybe my vet builds just bad

[hearty wolf]

Psyker harder

[tulip kettle]

for exactly that reason, gold tough very good

[pine shore]

no

[ornate hamlet]

Probably team mates

[pine shore]

voc is literally free I aint dying for 15 seconds button

[tulip kettle]

yeah or just misunderstanding the vet gameplay

[visual phoenix]

Psyker has it complexity depending on build
Sometimes its monkey mode
Other times its surging drugs

[pale prairie]

So is Scrier’s Gaze

Jk

[tulip kettle]

vet is also very good at dealing with specials in a way psyker usually isnt

[sacred surge]

Ye, psyker squishiest class and can blow up himself to boot

I seen that so many times

[pine shore]

scriers gaze is I am dying is a single hit but I also need to get into the most dangerous position to do damage

[sacred surge]

Oi i use scrier gaze

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-im-great-doin-fine-i-am-ok-not-im-invincible-gif-13072852

[visual phoenix]

Dont underestimate gunner dodges from emp evasion
In a lot of ways its quite opposite :)

[sacred surge]

Ironically among entire team I'm the only standing rn

[pine shore]

Doesn't make him tanky or anything

[sacred surge]

Ye but fun still

[pine shore]

You will still die in 1-4 good hits no matter what

[pale prairie]

Yeah

[visual phoenix]

So gunner immunity is not survivability?

[pale prairie]

I die to poxwalkers getting behind me more than crushers/specials/elites

[pine shore]

It is survivability

[sacred surge]

Not invisibility

[pine shore]

Did you know there's a loud ass notification noise when you are about to get hit from behind

melee or ranged, they have different sounds too

[sacred surge]

And you can push em away

[pale prairie]

No way! Really?!

[pine shore]

yea

Listen and you will stop dying!

Easy as pie!

[pale prairie]

Okay so then what do I do about the auric maelstrom infested crusher train in front and behind me?

[ornate hamlet]

Vet dies to pox walkers too which he never used too

[pine shore]

Make is so they don't get behind you in the first place

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-meme-gif-1852791965001335176

[visual phoenix]

"You do what you can"

[pale prairie]

You played the new event? The director literally spawns them on opposite sides of rooms on purpose

[pine shore]

Not even joking, that's actually the solution, good positioning will make your life easy

[pine shore]

yes. But I played meleker only with fgs 6 so I killed tham faster then they could get behind me

[ornate hamlet]

Since the arbite patch the vets been pretty terrible

[pale prairie]

They have been overshadowed. I don’t think their kit is bad/changed

[pine shore]

Or I played smyker and it just didn't matter, I was scratching my nose the entire game anyway

[strong gulch]

Don't BB it.

[pale prairie]

Take a nap

[pine shore]

That's literally what I did

[pine shore]

I played smyker late at night and every time I started smyking I would close my eyes and just press f somewhere in the middle to not open my eyes for longer

[ornate hamlet]

Power creep

[pale prairie]

Yeah I’ve only died once to the event and it was bad position in a 3 man run + 1 bot because the zealot jumped off a ledge and the plasma vet was cowering behind me shooting at the crushers. Was dancing fine and had them grouped in front but it’s hard to see the poxwalkers in all the fart gas

[pine shore]

fart gas causes lag for me

[ornate hamlet]

And yes the vet tree is horrible

[pine shore]

So I can't see and I can't play

[ornate hamlet]

It has 19 tax nodes...

[gray juniper]

Follow the vet metas and suggested builds closely

[pine shore]

Likely more

Useless talents are also tax nodes

and vet has A LOT of useless talents

[plucky flax]

Based

[pine shore]

meleeker on this event is so busted

[pale prairie]

I dunno if BEANS is doing it then I think it’s now META

[pine shore]

I played with both fgs 6 and obscurus, the speed at which crushers and maulers die is just unmatchable

[plucky flax]

Arby is even more OP

[pale prairie]

It’s super fun when all goes well

[plucky flax]

Cos it's so squishy and they have higher attack speed.

[pine shore]

"Psyker doesn't need buffs, everything he has is already strong"

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-the-force-star-wars-gif-10763720

[visual phoenix]

Diabyties be like
For the IBS

[pale prairie]

I just want the blitzes to be worked on. Also please put assail in the middle…..lmao

[gray juniper]

Arby is legit stronger on the event

@plucky flax also correct on Arby two handed maul over shield maul. YUGE kill difference ty

[pine shore]

brain burst was always my favourite blitz but the only time it's fun to play with is when you get x10 bb in mortis

[visual phoenix]

I wish mele in staff builds would have more sense sometimes
Its getting more boring

[pale prairie]

Oh mygod

[woeful sigil]

god brain burst is useless man

[strong gulch]

BB needs help. This is without buffs and against a rotted crusher. So this setup isn't helping BB at all, but still... it feels bad.

There are situations where invested in BB has been nice and enjoyable, but it still needs adjustments.

[woeful sigil]

brain burst is actually ok if you have a setup for it to trigger automatically

I usually had voidstrike, double attack on crit and soul flame on crit, then stack the 2 flame perks so it spreads everywhere

every 15 seconds everything is just on fire forever

[pine shore]

voidstrike is another type of dogshit

[woeful sigil]

nah I love it dude lol

I don't even have max damage on it

its at 60%

[pine shore]

This stuff was good, then they nerfed so it became not very good and then they buffed enemies and not it's just useless

[woeful sigil]

so I can stack those burn stacks

[strong gulch]

VS needs a little help too.

Liking something doesn't make it good.

[pine shore]

wait, which 2 perks are you stacking?

[woeful sigil]

burn stacks on specialist kill, and the one that spreads current stacks to nearby enemies on kill

[strong gulch]

I'm a EP BB enjoyer and can use it in H40, but it still needs help.

[pine shore]

perilous cumbustion is good

[strong gulch]

Blazing spirit on VS is a meme.

[pine shore]

wildfire is also terrible

You shound't be using wildefire ever unless you want more in fire reborn procs

This is it's only purpose

[woeful sigil]

nah, its actually decent if you're a crit build with double attack on crit + soul burn on crit

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is not terrible. It's build specific tho.

[strong gulch]

It's meme

[pine shore]

Even in those builds not like it's amazing

[woeful sigil]

while everything is on fire your brain burst picks a specialist at random, re-applying burn and adding new burn

[strong gulch]

It's a facilitator.

[woeful sigil]

it is indefinite fire

[pine shore]

oh, yes, +1 burn stacks to 6 random enemies around the target is so good

[strong gulch]

I know how KF and PC work together.

[pine shore]

It's going to do a total of like 30 damage

wow

[plucky flax]

It's 4 burn stacks.

[strong gulch]

yes

[woeful sigil]

I was also running bleed stacks on a combat knife

[pine shore]

4, sorry

[woeful sigil]

but recently switched to greatsword + assail

even though my dps is higher I think I enjoyed watching the entire map bleeding and on fire

[woeful sigil]

wouldn't it be 8 since double strike on crit?

[pine shore]

wildfire splits all stacks between all enemies

[woeful sigil]

oh wait you're refering to wildfire not the staff

yeah my bad

[pine shore]

so an enemy with 4 stacks dying would cause 4 random enemies to get 1 stack of fire

It's so bad

[woeful sigil]

yeah you might have a point

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[woeful sigil]

can I see your skill tree for h40

also does cooldown reduction work on kinetic flayer

[pale prairie]

I don’t think so

[gray juniper]

Speaking in absolutes like “useless” is detrimental to truth and educating newer players

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-smackdown-wwegif-austin-theory-the-rock-gif-10644104540234558719

Sorry thought this was Reddit

But yeah you right @gray juniper

[gray juniper]

I’ve been shut down by the meme game

[visual phoenix]

i can do only that, i think i didnt had scoreboard mod on then
its kinda simmular?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sith-gif-7488176

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-grin-evil-smile-smirk-haha-gif-6403290434734800133

Star Wars may be reddit… I’m not

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[analog agate]

Clair Obscur is fun. Good story and art design

[plucky flax]

Beef sandwich.

[pale prairie]

[visual phoenix]

i belive it was a yt run

you should have le scoreboard

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

EP BB bubble inferno. Still working things out on this one. Like OwtW vs KR for my particular gameplay and bubble management.

Also EP BB bubble rendi VB for with I'm with an inferno user. This has BM for more blast uptime. Edit: EE shouldn't be there for rendi VB; I meant to pick OwtW instead.

[plucky flax]

Nein

[visual phoenix]

fine, il get it myself

[strong gulch]

But those are not meta H40 builds.

[plucky flax]

No me noob.

Don't expose.

[visual phoenix]

oke

[woeful sigil]

oh weird, you don't gain toughness on peril gen/ quell, nor do you have the empowered psionics toughness perk

I only took off toughness on peril change with psionics perk

[gray juniper]

He was already absolutely roasted by unsanctioned psyker this week. Are you really going to make him live through that trauma again?!

[woeful sigil]

so it all comes from warp damage?

[pale prairie]

Is it just me or is there so much identity denial in this thread?

“You carry”

“No u”

“No that’s not me I noob”

[strong gulch]

Middle EP keystone and WE are not worth taking. Quietude hurt my feelings to drop tho.

[gray juniper]

I would be if people were gaslighting, but it’s a sure bet they’re not

[woeful sigil]

I've recently fallen in love with soul stealer + psychic leeching while using assail

[strong gulch]

You're allowed

[visual phoenix]

psyker

[plucky flax]

I only know of 1 true carry and its name is karien.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/fry-face-close-up-gif-21997603

[vestal trench]

psykers deny carrying allegations bc they cannot be caught lacking and become complacent

u get a little too confident and oh no wheres my hp

[pale prairie]

Ah I see so it’s the grindset

[gray juniper]

Karien is absent from the chat people. Karien is absent from the chat

[vestal trench]

u bring arbiter ego to psyker gameplay and u spend the whole game in casualty

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-china-mass-exit-crowd-everyone-coming-gif-16057961

[pale prairie]

Explains a lot of these “no talent auric run today with a random build suggested by chat”

[strong gulch]

"Don't expect good from me because of that 1 time."

[pale prairie]

Sometimes you don’t even need to switch off from arbiter

[vestal trench]

im still looking for a zealot build that justifies playing it over the cop

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-mr-incredible-not-strong-enough-gif-25547952

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/old-grandma-gif-5132574

[strong gulch]

I don't recall. 😌

[pale prairie]

I am sure you’ll find it eventually

[vestal trench]

my vet gives me helbore, power sword, and nades dopamine

psyker is psyker

ogryn is ogryn

then theres arby that straight up feels and performs better in melee than any zealot loadout ive done

[pale prairie]

I just started playing Ogryn and the toughness gen is astounding. I imagine the arby is even gnarlier.

My fragile psyker mentality is in a constant state of shock

[loud girder]

relic blade zealot clears arbeetus

no cap!

[acoustic jacinth]

nice shock maul nerd! watch me lob the head clean off of this reaper

[loud girder]

[vestal trench]

not performance wise i think?

i think im miffed too cuz i think my fave zealot exclusive was the crusher but arby also does that better

[loud girder]

just from my experience arbeetus feels very strong in melee but go marty relic blade and cleave the entire room

[vestal trench]

oh i didnt take a screenshot of the arby one

[loud girder]

crusher just has a lot of synergy with the funny cops

[vestal trench]

arby one was 1300-1500

which means that even on relic blade, it feels worse than arby

relic blade's like 1100 upper end around 850 average on IJ

for taking out crushers at least

[loud girder]

i mean relic blade turns off hordes and 2 shots everything

that's about as strong as a weapon can get

[vestal trench]

funny thing is, my unupgraded arby maul at like

380

outdpses a fully built crusher

it's bleak

i can't get to 2 shotting everything on either mk 10 or 2

maybe i bite the bullet and run martyrdom? lmao

[loud girder]

arby just juices everything with billion 15% dmg nodes and concussive proccing stuff like skullcrusher instantly

[loud girder]

i like marty of just BP

[vestal trench]

it's genuinely annoying me

ive muted some people here who are like "niches are bad"

[loud girder]

but marty is makes u swing that big boy faaast

[vestal trench]

like fuck what i enjoy about having choices in games i guess

like i dont mind vet being weaker rn, would be good if they buff but i still feel like i have a reason to try em

[gray juniper]

I’m getting hammer cucked by arbite in a lot of missions. That’s annoying

[vestal trench]

gameplay loop's unique enough

arbites straight up just fills the same niche i'd expect zealot to do, but better

it's obnoxious

maybe i give in and just do dueling sword zealot

at least it'd be different

[loud girder]

idk i think zealot's meta is still giga strong

[vestal trench]

....honestly that's something that weirds me out about zealot independent of arbites

all of its uniques are these absolute units of weapons

talents: best for finesse and crit

[loud girder]

yeah that's funny

[woeful sigil]

would you make any changes to this one? I've been really enjoying playing with this one, move speed perks while using greatsword, damage and toughness damage reduction on max peril

[loud girder]

and what's funnier is that relic blade has good finesse

last time i checked

[gray juniper]

No bullshit it would be nice to see some balance change that results in less than ~2 arbites per mission. That’s my only gripe and no I don’t have a clear reason why or how

[loud girder]

so it benefits from it

[vestal trench]

mkx's finesse is better tho right?

[woeful sigil]

also psionics gives free assail at max peril which I love

[vestal trench]

noticed i wasnt getting my bookbitch duties back as fast on mk 2 BP

[loud girder]

not sure but the uppercut on mk2 hits HARD

[vestal trench]

i use the mk2 more after u recommended i play around with it

it just feels better and more consistent to me than mkx

even if mkx has easier sweep loops

[loud girder]

its more fun to use since you're not just mashing lights

and the uppercut is sexy

[prime elk]

light spam blender is hilarious on mkx

[vestal trench]

ex over on zealot chat mentioned you should still do the heavy sweep loop on the x

[strong gulch]

recon? auric?

[prime elk]

and mk2 basically requires 2 extra points to build for

[vestal trench]

light spam does work well enough ig xP

[prime elk]

because TWBS is important

so fuck that

[gray juniper]

You’re taking +15 toughness when you could’ve got EE? X_x

[loud girder]

he knows way more than me soooo

he's probably right

[vestal trench]

honestly i dont even mind what people play, the feeling of "guess im just a spectator" got reduced when they fixed the bleed bug

[loud girder]

but just spammed lights
sometimes heavies for really thick mixed hordes

[vestal trench]

my thing is just...give me reason to play every class

bc whats the point of having classes if they dont have niches

i may as well be playing payday or helldivers

[loud girder]

idk both ogryn and arby do fkton of dmg in melee but zealot still feels unique

chaining fotf and critting everything to death

[woeful sigil]

doesn't EE only do stuff for the rapier

[loud girder]

swinging all your weapons fast af

it still has that cracked hobo berserker identity

[strong gulch]

EE is dodging ranged on crit

[jovial juniper]

Actually worse

[vestal trench]

yeah it feels like you work a lot for relatively less rewards with all that aggression

[woeful sigil]

OH FUCK

[jovial juniper]

Arby's has worse dodges and worse finesse than zealot

[loud girder]

old tree vs new tree

[vestal trench]

i understand the sweating on psyker

bc of its output

zealot barely outperforms arby without locking in

[loud girder]

zealot ffeels a lot faster to play than both ogry and arbeeetus and that's the biggest difference imo

[woeful sigil]

I thought it just proc'd the swords that were like "do this on dodge"

for finesse damage or whatever

I did not know it made you invincible

[vestal trench]

i need to see some zealot gameplay maybe

[loud girder]

but in general its just a old tree vs new tree moment

[pale prairie]

Just to ranged damage not to melee

[gray juniper]

Hobo preacher sounds like a B rate action movie

[vestal trench]

bc i do tend to play cautious than balls to the wall so it may be a class mismatch too

[woeful sigil]

gunners are the only thing that ever kill me

[loud girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQz0KNVBUjw&t=131s mister unc my beloved

[woeful sigil]

so this changes EVERYTHING

[vestal trench]

but idk even when i play a lil ballsy on all the other classes i get more returns out of arby in a way that scratches that same itch

like, BTL spam with lone wolf feels just as fast and on meth

[loud girder]

nah with zealot its honestly really simple
probably the simplest gameplay loop of them all
you literally just go hyper aggro on everything and just dodge block kill dodge block kill

[vestal trench]

and since youre a cop you cant get arrested for the meth

[pale prairie]

Now imagine with the extra crit chance you get in Scrier’s Gaze and the finesse and crit damage bonus from DD

[loud girder]

it rewards people who know how to do the fundementals right

[vestal trench]

agree there

[loud girder]

zealot aint lacking in power at all its just the shit tree lolz

[vestal trench]

thats why i think most people should start with it

[woeful sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-oh-my-lord-shock-what-the-shocked-gif-11855238

[vestal trench]

then maybe do some time on like

vet/psyker

to get slide spam drilled in

[pale prairie]

Yeah it’s fucking dangerous but you’re a blender if you’re good at awareness

[vestal trench]

i think part of it too is scoreboard ruining my brain chemistry

[woeful sigil]

WAIT FUCK that means my combat knife is 1000% more useful than I thought it was since it crits like 100 times a second

[vestal trench]

i dont think ive seen a zealot output as much as the arbys

[gray juniper]

It works on full autos, rapid fire staffs (less consistent), all the time in inferno staff, fast melee weapons like dueling sword light and combat knife

[loud girder]

i simply only have scoredboard to check after game and see what i can do better
i feel like a lot of people just play the game to farm numbers but its like why

[pale prairie]

Yeah but horde density can still be a problem haha. Thats why some use FGs

[loud girder]

purely on dmg outputs i always see good psykers and ogryn spammers

[paper oriole]

„Just kiss already ;P”

[loud girder]

topping

[jovial juniper]

[vestal trench]

tbh maybe i just return to zealot once the rework drops

bc i think the core of it is i cant quite see zealot's aggression and arbites' aggression on BTL as distinct enough to warrant playing both when one gets less returns than the other

[vestal trench]

fax

i am not that psyker

i aspire tho 🫡

[strong gulch]

If I'm gonna EP assail SG, then this is the core of what I'd do. 3 points left for if you want QoL nodes, extent SG for non assail things, or more toughness. Anticipation warp speed are nice but not needed for FGS. BCoB or TTS if you're using one of them a lot, but seems droppable because this is an assail build; also no DD for gun and melee. I know you like PL (Psychic Leeching), so there's room for that. True aim would be great here.

[paper oriole]

Oh, fuck this shit
I sent it as a response and it didn’t went through on mobile, just on WiFi

[pale prairie]

So you don’t want to kiss them?

[paper oriole]

„Just kiss already ;P”

Here, it was a response to this 😠

[gray juniper]

I need this too because the play style is different from psyker. I get dodge toughness as a concept but I don’t have the right rhythm down. Watch the video?

[paper oriole]

Not me, they should kiss themselves

[pale prairie]

Very true very true

[loud girder]

just watch mr unc he's cracked as zealot imo

he got the zooming around rythm down

[vestal trench]

i need to test if zealot charge is cancelled by blocking

that used to be vt2 tech but it doesnt feel as consistent here

[pale prairie]

Watching cracked zealots is very enjoyable. Like watching good meleepsyker play

[woeful sigil]

gonna try this out, I usually leave kinetic deflector off and go to that +5% move speed, but i'll see what warp unbound does to it

might switch back to combat knife for more crits per second

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna play couple rounds?

[strong gulch]

If you don't want KD or want to maintain consistent block mechanics across classes, then leave it off. It's a really strong node, but I get not taking it.

[strong gulch]

ok

[plucky flax]

What you wanna play?

[woeful sigil]

every time I kraft dinner I blow up my own brain

[strong gulch]

Ye

[plucky flax]

Okay let me rephrase. WHAT GAME MODE DO YOU WANT TO PLAY?

[strong gulch]

Lmao I still have event to do, but if you want havocs, I down.

[plucky flax]

Can do events.

It's funny. 😄

[strong gulch]

That's be good. Let's do that.

[plucky flax]

I'll try some obscurus meme cos my fgs special is a bit gimped.

[marble crater]

How much longer is the event active?

[jovial juniper]

Till August 11

[marble crater]

Thanks, so I do one mission a day and I will complete it in time

[gray juniper]

If you’re using combat knife and this isn’t working as good as you hoped, try this and see if it works

Using a quick gun with this obviously

[tulip kettle]

not seen you run this yet, whats the thinking with the EP BB KR?

why are we all out here trying to make EP happen

[woeful sigil]

I like to keep my peril at 100% so the quell on melee won't work, and the time it takes to let my 3 psionic assails out already quell it below 70

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/not-happening-sorry-regina-george-rachel-mc-adams-mean-girls-gif-4670417

[woeful sigil]

I might stick with greatsword for that reason honestly, its nice to charge the sword and be back up to 100% instantly after empowered assail

another reason why I took damage reduction on peril

33% + 20% from scrier's gaze

alternating between the 2 I guess

[strong gulch]

This is good right?

[visual phoenix]

got slot?

[strong gulch]

just several seconds of being inside a paper ball

[woeful sigil]

I love it when my game freezes and puts the camera in a random spot in the map

[pale prairie]

Post new build please it looks OP. Just destroys all reality

[paper oriole]

Is this how the world looks like after perils?

[strong gulch]

slowly making progress

then should have a slot

[strong gulch]

Someone was asking about my EP BB build for H40. I take it sometimes when dreg seeds are being a brat.

[tulip kettle]

fair enough

does EP guarantee the one shot on gunners?

[verbal thistle]

For havoc only on scab gunners

Dreg need a little chip damage before

Which is easily done with trauma/perilous

Kill 1 and the burn damage brings the others low enough for a 1 tap

[woeful sigil]

I just realised if EE gets proc'd on assail crit then I don't need combat knife

[marble crater]

400k? Damn

[verbal thistle]

I have a few videos with me using EP BB

Trauma EP BB feels best in red/purple havoc

[tulip kettle]

now that just sounds crazy to me

[gray juniper]

Ok so don’t take any quell reduction for gaze but replace that with soul drinker or anticipation. Probably anticipation I’d guess for knife play. Cleave nodes won’t serve you as much with knife melee

[tulip kettle]

trauma is already bad in red + purple

[pale prairie]

Probably good for the game surviving at least

[verbal thistle]

I fully disagree with that

[woeful sigil]

I had cleave cause greatsword literally halts you

without it

[tulip kettle]

trying to use BB to kill the pink red crusher in the pack of red crushers doesnt sound like a good time

[verbal thistle]

Trauma can easily gurentee knocking an enemy to their feet and with that damage a EP BB can 1 shot them, so no interaction with red

[strong gulch]

Missing Agent's clutch be like.

[gray juniper]

@loud girder watching a video by a guy named Reginald on hammer play. Thoughts? I saw the relic blade video and I’m already pretty good at using that. The thunder hammer rhythm especially mixed hordes in giving me problems

[tulip kettle]

sorry what

[verbal thistle]

With that idea knocking them all down makes the purple easily visable

[plucky flax]

Ye

[verbal thistle]

Depending on enemy

[tulip kettle]

its obviously a playstyle difference because that is not my experience

[verbal thistle]

Probably

[marble crater]

Definitely good, unless this is only 100k people who created 4 Arbites each @strong gulch

[tulip kettle]

my experience is all the trash dies as it would with any build

[verbal thistle]

I do play hyper agro and use melee alot

[loud girder]

lol reginald is mr darktide

he's one of the most informative

[tulip kettle]

and then you end up with a bunch of maulers / crushers / bulwarks that instantly recover from knocked down / stunned state and ruin you

[pale prairie]

Wow super quiet except for the sounds of Agent screaming and Assails…so fucking peak

[verbal thistle]

Trauma is still infinite cleave

You can dodge enemies

[woeful sigil]

does warp splitting work well with assail, idk if its from ethereal shards or not

[verbal thistle]

https://youtu.be/Dmpfmty06BE?si=JAGZO8wjZcvWbjuc

[plucky flax]

Mr beef

Come have some beef sandwich.

[waxen pollen]

yeah a lot of assail builds take warp splitting for the shards ..

shreds through hordes n stuff

[paper oriole]

Need some arbys?

[plucky flax]

Play whatever class.

[verbal thistle]

I don't remember exactly how this run went but this is red purple, trauma EP bb

[plucky flax]

I'm just doing some events with beans.

[gray juniper]

Then I’ll probably follow along his advising pretty closely. I think he’s also using crucis on this setup

[verbal thistle]

He is baby Kuli that makes videos

That's the analogy

[wispy bay]

I failed H29 twice yesterday...

Totally Havoc Forged

[verbal thistle]

Another point with trauma staff is that you can also aim at the purple mid horde unlike the other 3 staffs

[plucky flax]

Coming? If so need fs code.

[verbal thistle]

Minimize non purple damage so they don't get red

Some still might but as much as say purge staff

Ek and strike struggle getting to the purples in the back with armor hordes

[visual phoenix]

will do in few mins

[pale prairie]

@deft stump is this your setup?

[plucky flax]

If under 10 mins I can wait.

[visual phoenix]

probably faster

[paper oriole]

No, sorry 😔
today is gym day

[tulip kettle]

idk ive watched to 15 mins and it has not spawned 1 single ogryn blob or even 1 mauler

[verbal thistle]

Bad example then, MB. I forgot how that run went

My current havoc is red purple I can record

[tulip kettle]

in that game it looks great popping gunners

[verbal thistle]

But it's sycorax

[white egret]

what blessings you all prefer on mk IV duelling sword

uncanny+precog?

[deft stump]

Uncanny agile.

Inf dodges gud.

[white egret]

interesting... that does sound good

decreases potential damage but could def be worth it

[deft stump]

It's the more defensive option.

[white egret]

what's best offensive options?

[deft stump]

You just have agile for that.

And KD.

[analog agate]

Riposte is the go to. Precog if you can time it well. Thrust if you never dodge

Uncanny is the anchor blessing on it though

[deft stump]

Oh, Offensive.

Brain slept.

Honestly, as long as you take uncanny, is all good.

[gray juniper]

I wonder if beans and agent are still playing

[visual phoenix]

just finished

[strong gulch]

just got done

[marble crater]

I think they just finished

[strong gulch]

Getting closer to keystone

[marble crater]

Who is getting a keystone?

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[marble crater]

Doch

[strong gulch]

Unlucky for Some

By finshed, I mean done playing

D:

[visual phoenix]

the more i think about it

[pale prairie]

You bring home the W?

[visual phoenix]

its might worth to make another psyker just to farm low warp rez staff

[marble crater]

That's another psyker?

[strong gulch]

Despite my best efforts, yes.

[pale prairie]

Hey Anon a new difficulty modifier just dropped!

…it just says “beans”

[strong gulch]

I swear different characters have different luck. No data. Just vibes.

[marble crater]

Each mission you start with a new lvl 1 psyker

[strong gulch]

No curios

[pale prairie]

I mean that’s all science….right???

[visual phoenix]

its not about that. its about getting lowest possible from bulk trade

[pale prairie]

“This gravity feels…mid”

[visual phoenix]

mine is 10% but i want try lower

[marble crater]

I think you are addicted to leveling psykers, I don't know how else to explain it

[strong gulch]

True. If the non dumps are 60ish and the dump is super low, you're golden.

Rare tho

[plucky flax]

Sorry I didn't try to protect you but it's more efficient to just finish fast so you level up.

[strong gulch]

maybe

it's funny

[marble crater]

Selfish in helping

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

[visual phoenix]

i still wonder if its possible to get 80/0

[ripe obsidian]

Masochism.

[plucky flax]

Damn that's based.

Wtf

[pale prairie]

Unreal

[strong gulch]

You're good. I even said to leave me at one point.

[ripe obsidian]

Why would you even want to use that, holy moly.

[pale prairie]

My luck is apparently just absolutely trash

[strong gulch]

Oh wow! ✨

Also no clue

[visual phoenix]

cuz its better

[ripe obsidian]

+35% peril on a single RMB or summat

I think the golden spot for Inferno is like 40% WR.

[pale prairie]

Full charge or partial?

[strong gulch]

Just because is mostly why I want as low as possible WR.

Playing wise I don't personally want 10, but it's funny.

Out of memory and my power might go out.

RUDE

[visual phoenix]

i do belive its the best way to craft purg staff

its just not generate enough

[gray juniper]

You see how they leave me out? It’s a conspiracy

Started playing zealot and they’re like “you’ve changed. You’re acting different”

[visual phoenix]

thats the point
or else my vents on havoc would be not full stack

[ripe obsidian]

Full. I don't have one low enough to test, but that low WR is like +40% additional peril gen

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-you-who-are-you-excuse-me-leave-me-alone-mind-your-business-gif-15629630053949127615

[ripe obsidian]

I sorely believe you have trouble getting Shriek to 83.5% on H40 with any staff

[gray juniper]

It’s almost like photoshop it’s so unbelievable

[visual phoenix]

its purg specificly
the rest are at 60

[ripe obsidian]

Without Empyric Resolve, 2 partial charges on a 60% WR staff is 20ish percent peril.

Maybe more

[pale prairie]

That’s how I cope. I am convincing myself all the preem rolls on here are fake

[ripe obsidian]

I know which staff it is. I just think you've gone too far

[gray juniper]

What I want to know is how frequent your horde clear/mixed horde clear is with that staff without having to switch to melee and how often you have to switch to melee

[ripe obsidian]

I use a 40% WR for Empyric Resolve Bubble Purgatus and 60% for Shriek, and I never have trouble getting peril up

With 8%, you have to quell so much more often

[gray juniper]

The thing about the sub-60 staffs is I’m wondering how it actually plays out on large hordes when you end up having to solo or are on the front end of a horde showing up closest to you

[ripe obsidian]

I think a full RMB charge without ER at 60% WR is like 19% peril, then the peril for actually burning things

[visual phoenix]

i try to use at as less as possible. staff doing everything, my mele is mostly for mobility

[ripe obsidian]

So maybe 30% total

[visual phoenix]

i have some vods on yt if you interested

[gray juniper]

Yes post those. I want to see the damage difference play out ty

[visual phoenix]

its in my discord intergrations

[ripe obsidian]

I am more curious to see how often you have to quell and how much peril a single cast costs

[strong gulch]

I haven't played enough shriek purg on havoc to know what my preferred WR amount is. I have a 30ish WR one to try out.

I know no ER feels bad for me and 60 WR with ER is WAAAAY too much.

You can get shriek back so quickly.

[ripe obsidian]

That's why I use a 60% WR without ER. I still get back to 80+ peril in seconds

[pale prairie]

You just go the rending node?

[ripe obsidian]

Unfortunately.

[pale prairie]

sighs and stares at warp splitting ah wait that’s just cleave not rending

[ripe obsidian]

But if you want to use Purgatus + Shriek, picking ER is counterproductive.

I like ER for bubble Purgatus, since it lets me more easily balance at 70-90 peril

[pale prairie]

Yeah I get that was just making sure I was following

[ripe obsidian]

And I think 40ish percent WR is the lowest I can go and still do two half-pumps with Inferno with ER after 2 quells

[dry blade]

hey guys, im doing the psyker tutorial, and when i try to "charge my sword", it doesn't count

any idea why it doesn't want to count it for me?

maybe im just doing something wrong

[ripe obsidian]

Two or three half-pumps, can't recall atm. But going lower than 40ish WR lowers my DPS

[pale prairie]

Is half pump kinda the gold zone to benefit from Blaze Away?

[strong gulch]

That either means charged attack which is a heavy or a special attack which make you stroke your sword.

[gray juniper]

@visual phoenix is the low resistance staff in this video? https://youtu.be/jYKFS9IvZds?si=8f8gWd6UvhFqXE8P

[dry blade]

well, i tried charging with Right mouse button and it doesn't work. I tried heavy attack and it didn't work

i tried light attack combo and it did not work

[vestal trench]

special attack

side mouse button default

[plucky flax]

He's jujitsu kaisen himself.

The ultimate beef.

[dry blade]

fair enough

[visual phoenix]

any of them

[dry blade]

thank you

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, a 45% charge

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/domain-expansion-8-hour-mute-gif-1280235497005106686

[ripe obsidian]

I can't get 45% exactly without mods, so I probably do 35-40% most of the time.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-kento-nanami-death-death-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-9282695421132909706

[pale prairie]

Hey bruh this is the vibes only no data thread

[strong gulch]

Check your keybinds. Weapon special action is that you need to press for the special. A charged attack is just holding down the regular / primary longer.

[dry blade]

well, now i got it. But thank you

[gray juniper]

I can see how this works for shriek only. It looks like it takes a while to get peril to build up if you shriek at all

[visual phoenix]

It Is indeed a shriek only setup

No reason to use it with bubble

[deft stump]

@gray juniper Wanna derp around?

[visual phoenix]

or yk
use bubble in general

[plucky flax]

Congrats @gray juniper the tru carry want to grace you with her presence.

[gray juniper]

Yes : )

[gray juniper]

Seconds?

[visual phoenix]

sigarets

[deft stump]

Won't judge if you wanna Zealot though.

[gray juniper]

Scores

[deft stump]

Vox channel.

[gray juniper]

I do want to zealot tbh

[gray juniper]

Oh ok got you

[marble crater]

@deft stump do you not run out of different emotes you can use?

Just how many stare and hmph emotes do you have?

[plucky flax]

Do you want to get flamed?

[visual phoenix]

[marble crater]

It has been raining all day, I'm immune to getting flamed, for now

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

Going by the first video on your channel, @visual phoenix , I kept seeing you at 100% peril with 15 seconds left on Shriek

Also also quelling to 0 from like 50%

[visual phoenix]

Yeah, thats how purg works
You not explode if you release m2 attack at 99% or lower

[ripe obsidian]

I know how it works. I'm saying that 10% WR isn't helping you

[visual phoenix]

Just in case 😅

[ripe obsidian]

Because you're at 100% already

[upper sun]

bro has a speedometer

[ripe obsidian]

A single full charge is giving you 50% or more peril

[visual phoenix]

Yeah

Thats the point

[gray juniper]

Lmao I know that was killing me. The runaway-dodge meter

[visual phoenix]

Im not sure where are you going with jt

[ripe obsidian]

That you're lowering your own DPS by having such low WR because you have to quell more often

Or swap to melee more often

[visual phoenix]

I tryed mix this number for around 10/20/30/45 since i have only those
Its either this or im not using vent almost on cd

[ripe obsidian]

I also use vent on CD, but I am pretty much always at 80+ peril, using quick LMBs to keep it up when not actively fighting

[visual phoenix]

With that then MeowBeep build is the best, since its high warp rez staff and low warp rez forse sword. I like mobility :(

[ripe obsidian]

So using shriek only drops me to like 40 peril, usually, then a couple half-charges of Inferno have me back to 80% peril

Based on the video, I also spend a lot more time on my staff than you do, so it's maybe just a playstyle difference

[radiant frigate]

[ripe obsidian]

How many are Elves?

[pale prairie]

It Kat

[radiant frigate]

[ripe obsidian]

Shadowheart is not the only elf! Also, isn't she a half-elf?

[radiant frigate]

[visual phoenix]

Depends. Is the tempo faster, or its about 40m+ runs?

[pale prairie]

Wow that’s a lot of Warhammer

[ripe obsidian]

Depends on the team. I've had 50m missions, I've had sub-30

[radiant frigate]

[pale prairie]

Some fucking knife ear supremacy huh?

[radiant frigate]

[pale prairie]

Ah cannibal elf

[marble crater]

She is

[visual phoenix]

Do you have any vods to check? Would be appreciated :)

[radiant frigate]

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, recording kills my GPU.

[radiant frigate]

well, not exactly

[pale prairie]

Ah sad crispy

[radiant frigate]

just Evil Goth Elf

[ripe obsidian]

I will say I am a distinctly mid H40 player. I am nothing special.

[radiant frigate]

the crispy child 🔥

[ripe obsidian]

Sebille is a cannibal elf. As are Bosmer in TES

[visual phoenix]

Sadge

[radiant frigate]

^this one you can hear

[ripe obsidian]

I can't

What does it sound like?

[pale prairie]

I could have sworn she is like drinking blood or something from a corpse in that one cutscene

[radiant frigate]

"I am helpful, am i not?"