#psyker-class

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weary idol
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no lol

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mod

tulip kettle
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same as the crit chance dagger

weary idol
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you need mods to view important information in this game

normal crane
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What mods?

weary idol
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Numeric UI for the dodge counter

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"show crit chance" for showing crit chance

tulip kettle
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indeed

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custom crosshairs for the crosshair

weary idol
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true peril for the accurate peril value :)

tulip kettle
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i also have more that dont show in these shots on the outsides and stuff

weary idol
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better buff management+custom hud to actually see all the buffs you have active

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the list goes on really

potent echo
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Am I a big dummy or does true peril not hide the vanilla peril anymore

tulip kettle
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i would say, my mods are relatively stripped back compared to some of the set ups ive seen

potent echo
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I had to just move it out of the way with custom hud

tulip kettle
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and no its fucky with the options in numeric ui

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and peril guage

potent echo
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Guh

tulip kettle
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as mine is i see the peril symbol for every character

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i know how to stop it i just cba

potent echo
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Same tbh

plucky flax
tulip kettle
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its fine its tiny and white when you have no peril

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okay i feel guilted into it so im doing it

potent echo
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Can someone explain to me why pubs can't be bothered to top up their health/ammo before going through an airlock staregryn

tulip kettle
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2 shot confirmed

storm hollow
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popping into a malice mission while being on psyker for the first time in forever and my god do i feel like i was a wet paper noodle

plucky flax
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How do you think people feel in havoc? SadgeCry

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If you're touched you die.

storm hollow
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idk i wanted to try the greatsword and like

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oh my god ik i just have a profane but like wow it feels horrible

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id rather the regular sword despite i have a feeling i have the worst kind the Illisi Mk V

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(mainly because it doesnt have a strikedwon heavy)

plucky flax
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The greatsword is really good.

tulip kettle
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its pretty consistent now i know what you need to do - use SG, quell and zap as required to get back to 6 warp charges, cast first zap when above 80 peril but before you reach 100 and SG ends. For that cast you have 72.5% crit chance and do 2700-2900 on the crit. Then your next cast will be on 100% peril and has above 60% chance to crit for the remaining HP

outer ether
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whats the meta psyker skill tree rn?

tulip kettle
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depends what weapons youre running

storm hollow
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i might just be stupid but wtf is the purge staff called

tulip kettle
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for builds check the pins

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he means inferno

storm hollow
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none of these are aclled purge or purgatus

tulip kettle
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old players call it purg

storm hollow
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fucking oh

tulip kettle
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because it got renamed

storm hollow
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how is this stupid thing meta

tulip kettle
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because in the highest difficulty content its the only thing that can hit all the enemies at once

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its pretty bad in lower difficulty content because there arent enough enemies

tulip kettle
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nono

storm hollow
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cant the void strike do that?

tulip kettle
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nope

weary idol
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not even close

tulip kettle
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neither of those do what inferno does

storm hollow
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or the electrokinetic?

weary idol
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nope

tulip kettle
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again no

storm hollow
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hm

tulip kettle
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if theres a room with 40 crushers in it

weary idol
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EK staff hits at most 3 enemies

tulip kettle
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only inferno can hit them all at once

storm hollow
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alright

weary idol
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voidblast absolutely can too tho

storm hollow
tulip kettle
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because it is?

weary idol
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the explosion doesn't have a target limit

unborn lark
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Siblings, ive been off the game for over a year, what's the meta these days

tulip kettle
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it has very long reach

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veryt nice moves

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and very powerful

plucky flax
storm hollow
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maybe because im very new to it but like, i genuinely cannot comprehend it

plucky flax
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It takes a lot of experience to play melee psyker.

tulip kettle
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honestly, best will in the world

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you just need to play and practice a lot more

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psyker is hardest class to play, youre very squishy and cant make mistakes

storm hollow
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idk just the move set feels so sluggish and weak

tulip kettle
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so whichever mark you use (i rec Mk6)

plucky flax
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Imo only ogryn is more powerful than psyker in term of melee damage.

tulip kettle
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its always light - light - cancel for horde clear

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and chain heavies for big targets

storm hollow
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ive forgotten psyker's the game's hard mode

tulip kettle
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if you dont USE CHEAT MODS then what you want to do is look for the second light swing, then tap block

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you will see your hand come up

plucky flax
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I pray the chubby fish to make DD marks behave like EO marks.

tulip kettle
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then press light light again

plucky flax
tulip kettle
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omg plz

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just plz

weary idol
potent echo
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I played relic blade recently

plucky flax
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It's sad compared to fgs.

potent echo
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It's super easy to cancel there because you can buffer the block

tulip kettle
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block cancelling the 2 horizontal sweeps is definitely the play

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swapping is better

potent echo
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Don't even need to time it

tulip kettle
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but takes 2 inputs

potent echo
tulip kettle
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or CHEAT MODS

potent echo
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Smh cheat mods

weary idol
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because for mk 6 you either have 3 or 4 sweeping lights

plucky flax
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The first 2 attacks from weapon swap comes out faster than the first normal 2 lights.

weary idol
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that you can then go into sweeping heavy

potent echo
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Mk6 I just react to the upwards right to left uppercut

plucky flax
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I don't use the vanguard heavy on mk6 anymore it's way too slow.

potent echo
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After that just do heavy

plucky flax
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Just lights for horde and heavy spam for elites.

tulip kettle
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that being the overhead or the poke?

weary idol
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I don't either because I practiced the weapon swapping for the 2 lights xd

potent echo
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But tbh on bubble knight by that time you alr swap to assail to start throwing

green grove
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can you still get blessed by fate with venting shriek or does it have to be psykinetic’s wrath?

plucky flax
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When I play burga I eat damage for fun. When I play bubble knight my senses go up I dodge a lot of attacks. whatthefuck_heresy

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Then I die to overwhelming mixed horde and wish I brought burga.

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Sad life.

potent echo
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Voidblast FGS was something I played for awhile

tulip kettle
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i play it now

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its sick

potent echo
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Special sniping is so ass on that loadout though lol

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Compared to gun

tulip kettle
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but i think FGS is just sick

potent echo
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FGS gun if your team is allergic to killing specials staregryn

tulip kettle
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every time i dont have it and have to fight rager packs a little bit of poo comes out

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when i have it i know theyre gonna get decapitated or stabbed square in the eyes

plucky flax
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1000 red ragers staregryn

potent echo
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It's over...

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Unless you have very funny burger

tulip kettle
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chop the first 5 then slice the rest

plucky flax
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With proper scoreboard break down I'm surprised by how much damage I dealt on assails.

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Unupgraded assails.

tulip kettle
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how can you see it?

potent echo
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Warp splitter is an upgrade

plucky flax
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Tru

potent echo
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🤓

tulip kettle
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they do kinda go crazy vs shotgunners and such

plucky flax
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Oh with syllo's patch there's a separate damage column for blitz.

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On normal scoreboard it's together in ranged damage.

potent echo
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Syllo patch staregryn

potent echo
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Is it on nexus or it's some hidden black market stuff

plucky flax
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So the 'ranged' is both my recon and the warp slice special.

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It's on here only.

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You have to search from:syllo has:file.

potent echo
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This is so cursed

plucky flax
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I can resend the files here.

fiery stratus
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Yall got any of those scoreboards that don't spam the chat with damage numbers

plucky flax
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If you use ovenproof you can just paste it to the correct place.

potent echo
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It's supposed to be turned off by default

fiery stratus
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Wat

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What is the purpose for this other than psykhaniun testing then

potent echo
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Or you are using some other scoreboard I'm not familiar with

fiery stratus
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Because you certainly can't follow it during the game lol

plucky flax
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Put these deep in the ovenproof_scoreboard_plugin folder.

fiery stratus
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Scoreboard with ovenproofs plugin has a weird bug with shockmauls where it'll show the hits in chat

plucky flax
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Overwrite of course.

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Matt those files fix it.

potent echo
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Oh you mean that spam

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Not the one that grieves your teammates by posting about how little damage they do

fiery stratus
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Ok, im away from home atm. I did get another fix from nexus which fixed it somewhat, but there's something else that causes it now KEKW_ogryn

summer prairie
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I sent my patch to the ovenproof patch guy but he says he isn't going to include it until he adds an option to enable/disable various features he wants to add

fiery stratus
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Isn't he focused on powerdi or something? Are they the same creator?

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I havent checked

summer prairie
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not ovenproof himself, the guy who posts some fixes as a separate download

fiery stratus
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Icic

dull scroll
plucky flax
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It overwrites that.

summer prairie
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well it overwrites his stuff

fiery stratus
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That's the fix i have, I'll try yours next time I hop on

plucky flax
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Syllo is better.

fiery stratus
weary idol
dull scroll
weary idol
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If someones damage is unbelievably ass I'll tell them myself

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Not let some machine flame them for me

plucky flax
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Thankfully I was top damage. pepesurrender

summer prairie
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his patch has some havoc ammo pickup calculation fix that's not in my patch that was posted here, doubt anyone cares

fiery stratus
plucky flax
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The older version did it to party chat.

fiery stratus
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Honestly, I barely pay attention to scoreboards most games. Spacebar spam to the mourningstar gooo

potent echo
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There's a monster hunter mod this does that too KEKW_ogryn

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Gamers everywhere toxic to gamers Sitgryn

plucky flax
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I played a havoc once when half way through the round an ogryn asked "Anyone with scoreboard mod?"

tulip kettle
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the suspense

plucky flax
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Bro was in it for the dps race without even having scoreboard.

tulip kettle
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always asking for one of 2 reasons tbh

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either they dont have it, and think they are doing well and want to know (they usually arent)

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or they do have it, and are about to be toxic about somone else

plucky flax
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I didn't response to it but another guy in party had and he said "Yeah I'll tell damage at end of round."

tulip kettle
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😄

plucky flax
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I think I played harder from that part. staregryn

tulip kettle
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i do not care about damage or scoreboard chasing, beyond my own damage taken and trying to make it less

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screw em all

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who cares

weary idol
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I care about it partially because it helps with analyzing what the team is short on

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And also gives me a stick to beat bookbot zealots over the head with

tulip kettle
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sometimes i even go into quickplay and challenge myself to win while making as few inputs as possible

strong gulch
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I care about barrels ignited and exploded.

tulip kettle
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based

strong gulch
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VB on inferno maps KEKW_ogryn Guarded

tulip kettle
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also, book zealot is the only time " 1.7k, 1.2k, 700, 1.2k" its acceptable to be the 700

weary idol
tulip kettle
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it was mael on gloriana earlier

strong gulch
tulip kettle
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extra bursters and barrels

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i queue in

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lvl 83 psyker with trauma

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-leave session-

strong gulch
dull scroll
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I have personally never seen anyone going toxic over somebody doing bad in scoreboard
People here literally tries to farm scoreboard hoping to x2 or x3 other's damage
Hell someone I know who I won't name actively tries to camp mob spawns so I don't get to them 😏

tulip kettle
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never toxic over scoreboard

plucky flax
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I like to finish the mission in the least time possible.

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But havoc EU players are dead slow.

tulip kettle
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i like that take

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play at the pace the game wants or faster

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not run back 3 rooms, spawn 3 weakeneds and have to kill em all

plucky flax
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Meet THE WALL

tulip kettle
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wall vs 4 players - wall dissapears

strong gulch
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I don't mind if we are all holding W. If the arby and the oggy are holding W through fire and gas, I got a problems with that.

tulip kettle
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hell yeah

plucky flax
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The WALL when it's you scurrying like a rat trying to clutch. SadgeCry

tulip kettle
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its like mountain trail hiking

dull scroll
tulip kettle
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move at the pace of the slowest member of the team. But if they wont move forward because hey, theres 50 poxwalkers 20m behind em

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fuck em they can get eaten

plucky flax
tulip kettle
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i think completing the mission with the lowest total team dmg possible by spawning as few enemies as possible should also be the goal. Weird how some havoc runs are 30 mins with 7 bosses and some are 45 with 12

dull scroll
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It's pretty random at times

tulip kettle
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dont you know who i am?

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its not random

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its all an elaborate scheme you see 🙂

plucky flax
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Staying in place for too long seems to spawn a boss.

tulip kettle
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going backwards spawns a boss

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not keeping up spawns a boss

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going too far ahead of your team spawns a boss

summer prairie
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weakened boss spawns have a cooldown timer

tulip kettle
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i know

strong gulch
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I'd like to take less damage but I have a really slow reaction time and then lag or bad ping or spikes don't help. Def room to watch my my gosh darn back, but also there is very much a ceiling in the way.

So better is better but if not is ok.

tulip kettle
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crazy how sometimes, you can start the mission, wait 1 min in the starting area, spam your abilities, then get 2 weakeneds and twins before the first drop down

weary idol
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sick gets the twins out of the way early

tulip kettle
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then they spawn again

weary idol
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hey they're not supposed to do that

tulip kettle
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"oh but twins cant spawn more than once"

summer prairie
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never seen that happen

tulip kettle
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i have

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they will have different names obviously

plucky flax
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I never had it also.

tulip kettle
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but the normal sword captains dont have the crazy dash

dull scroll
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if twins spawned more than once the avg havoc climber would be screaming bloody murder all over the forums

tulip kettle
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so its not like it was just a random 2 captains that happened to spawn

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im sure it was a bug or w/e but i have definitely seen it on smelter

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got them in the very opening section then again later where theres the room with the big door with a boss trigger behind it

marsh ore
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can soulblaze still crit

strong gulch
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it never could

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direct damage from inferno / purg can tho

marsh ore
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oh

soft horizon
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EK is very cool most fun I've had on psyker so far 👍

plucky flax
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Extremely based.

flat nexus
plucky flax
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100-0 a twin is never not fun.

flat nexus
plucky flax
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Vent?

flat nexus
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Vets*

plucky flax
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Yeah

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I try to take them when I see for free ammo.

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Check build and turn out they run the awesome 5% damage aura.

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Then I'm like 'nope'.

radiant frigate
plucky flax
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They should rework it into something more interesting.

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The 5% damage on vet and psyker are both ass.

radiant frigate
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psyker style

plucky flax
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Also up the movespeed aura up a tiny bit.

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Make it 8%.

marble crater
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Make it 20% loregryn

plucky flax
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That makes it best aura. staregryn

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The zoomy.

wraith sphinx
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I use damage aura on my silly exe stance smoke build

radiant frigate
marsh ore
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what dump stat should it be for dueling sword

dull scroll
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cleave

radiant frigate
marsh ore
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ty

plucky flax
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Cleave deez

wraith sphinx
spiral storm
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with this smoke grenade I will be able to cover my team's advance and obscure us from those shooters and gunners clueless

600 pox walkers running at you
5 bombers and 2 pox bombers
18 dogs
4 trappers
6 flamers and tox flamers
6 ragers
2 crushers
4 maulers
50 mutants

wraith sphinx
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Smoke cloud forces trappers to come in closer so that's a win for me

static vessel
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dump stats for electrokinetic staff?

strong gulch
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WR

static vessel
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Doesn't it vary from what you want to do

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or what ur talents r

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I'm following the high damage one in pins

strong gulch
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The one in pins is WR

static vessel
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Oh

marble crater
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I guess if you want to spam lmb you can dump charge

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But meh

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I need Fatshark to buff the charge speed of EK, it's important for my playstyle loregryn

static vessel
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I guess the dumpstat is also wr on the blaze force greatsword?

dull scroll
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wr is the dump stat for everything, probably even for VS it's that bad

zinc comet
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br?

mossy cloak
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I see online saying the left click of electro staff with surge is exteremly good

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but isnt that just a non-charge version normal attack of Void Blast Staff?

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which also have Surge I believe?

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so why electro staff > VoidBlast in terms of that

dull scroll
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lmb was a gimmick build when qc was still around and people spammed macro for it

mossy cloak
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sorry what's qc?

dull scroll
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EK lmb for reasons was particularly good for it

zinc comet
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Quell cancelling

static vessel
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look in pins for a glossary

mossy cloak
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oh yeah, sorry, thank you

dull scroll
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an animation cancelling exploit

static vessel
marble crater
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Doesn't work anymore, good riddance

mossy cloak
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yeah I know that, but English is not my first language, trying my best to ring the bell

marble crater
mossy cloak
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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that make sense

strong gulch
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voidstrike and voidblast are two different staves

mossy cloak
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thanks a lot everyone, looked at the builds for days and can't figure that out

mossy cloak
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maybe I mixed up the name

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not playing in English client, please forgive me

marble crater
zinc comet
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Proof?

marble crater
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Looks different loregryn

mossy cloak
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thank you everybody, I shall switch my game to English just for communication

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❤️

marble crater
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Good idea KEKW_ogryn

zinc comet
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Nah English sucks

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Whatever your mother tongue is is probably a better language

marble crater
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Not so much when you want to understand all the game specific terms

mossy cloak
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I can understand them in full length, but the short form always took me times to think / look for

strong gulch
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It's more steps tho.

mossy cloak
marble crater
mossy cloak
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but thank you anyway, trying my best to fit in

fiery stratus
marble crater
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If you want to fit in, say you hate smite loregryn

fiery stratus
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I love smite

mossy cloak
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lul

strong gulch
mossy cloak
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they stun-lock the trash, and I can't flame them

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so

mossy cloak
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😦

zinc comet
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Psyker chat so much friendlier than zealot chat

jovial juniper
fiery stratus
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I love it so much I never use it saltz_happypyre

marble crater
strong gulch
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My squishy busted open. 😭

zinc comet
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Yeah we gotta change that

marble crater
restive slate
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Bustasquish

strong gulch
restive slate
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Pop goes the

static vessel
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world

strong gulch
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sad time

marble crater
strong gulch
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open jars by myself strong

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ignore the jar slamming on a counter noises

marble crater
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If that fails, can always poke holes in the lid

strong gulch
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break out the butter knife

static vessel
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dumpstat for voidblast

obtuse dome
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Warp res

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All staffs

static vessel
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damn ok

obtuse dome
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Makes the least difference and u wanna gain peril as psyker anyway

marble crater
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except voidstrike, we dump blast radius on that

static vessel
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why

obtuse dome
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Ye why

upper sun
marble crater
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Because it only affects the explosion radius at the very end, after you already cleaved through 100 enemies and everything is dead

upper sun
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if anything it makes getting headshots harder

radiant frigate
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cause it is very inconsequential

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but then again so is warp res

obtuse dome
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Ah ok

gray juniper
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What is another good secondary perk to put on inferno staff?

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With flak

strong gulch
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unyielding for bulwarks, reapers, and monsters

marble crater
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Crit damage loregryn

strong gulch
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or crit chance for EE farming and faster app

gray juniper
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Oh that’s a good point

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Damn good choices to decide from

strong gulch
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in havoc, I've decided on crit chance

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I still prefer unyielding in maels and lower.

marble crater
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I take unyielding, because 25 is bigger than 5

strong gulch
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true

gray juniper
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Crit chance itself might save my tail more though

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And inadvertently speed up damage/kills

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I already have warp nexus and blaze away on this. May as well lean in?

strong gulch
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Up to you.

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I prefer the extra bit of safety.

marble crater
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I have no proof, but with how many attacks you do with inferno I don't think you need the extra 5%, because you crit all the time already

strong gulch
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Though I lean into EE a little too much sometimes.

5 red reapers are scary

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While true, it seems like EE goes up faster. In a place where that means you lived or died I'm going for the thing that makes me more confident.

gray juniper
marble crater
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Both are good choices

gray juniper
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Wait…

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Does true aim work for staff secondary fire?

marble crater
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Yeah

strong gulch
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yes

hearty wolf
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@strong gulch I have new havoc 40 build to test

marble crater
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There is a... build... to use it with Voidblast

hearty wolf
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I don't think it will work

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But it might work

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Also means I have skill crusher which means other melee friends do more damage

strong gulch
hearty wolf
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So I will tax everyone 50% of their damage

gray juniper
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And ty both. Maybe I drop kinetic flayer and soul stealer for true aim?

strong gulch
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Cat is big eyed, puffed, and zoomin

strong gulch
gray juniper
hearty wolf
strong gulch
gray juniper
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I’m also reconsidering KF after that guy told me it remote detonates pox bursters

marble crater
strong gulch
gray juniper
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That what I felt like

glacial vapor
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It's only an issue if it procs off soulblaze if you maintain awareness KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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Just don't push attack bursters and when your team is close, attack them as usual

hearty wolf
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I swear I keep track of my psykers KF more than they do sometimes 😭

gray juniper
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Yea I haven’t seen it go off on one. You literally have to attack it to activate the perk right?

marble crater
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or soulblaze

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Just don't stand near the burster

gray juniper
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Bursters seem to rarely show up around elites though

strong gulch
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You get a buff icon when KF is on cooldown. So you know if it can proc or not. You can also do what you can to keep space between you and the burster. Stop flaming if the burster is near. etc

gray juniper
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They come up from the escape route or other direction to flank you

strong gulch
marble crater
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I never paid attention, or it's another case of "buff bar only has room for this many buffs"

gray juniper
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So is that gripe on KF kind of moot of you know what you’re doing? I’m never going to flame a burster intentionally

gray juniper
marble crater
glacial vapor
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Imagine looking at the buff bar KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
gray juniper
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Idk I barely peek at the bar. I only care about warp charges and mentally track the important things

strong gulch
glacial vapor
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Remember when specialists made spawn sounds?

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Pepperidge farm remembers

marble crater
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They still do for me

gray juniper
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I do think I’m going to replace soul stealer for perfect timing though

marble crater
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Why do you not have both already?

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Show your build right now

gray juniper
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Hold on I’ll just show you what I got

strong gulch
marble crater
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I have seen it before yes loregryn

glacial vapor
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That is the most vague icon

hearty wolf
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Would I be a cheater if I moved the buff bar

strong gulch
strong gulch
marble crater
strong gulch
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some would 👀

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This is my tree for inferno bubble warp charge build in havoc. It's pretty standard.

gray juniper
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@marble crater

strong gulch
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I do like EP BB tho

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that is a pref

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perfect timing is an always take on staves or with heavy assail use

marble crater
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I know the build will work great, but the top looks wrong, I don't like it angymorrow

gray juniper
#

I don’t think I need soul stealer is the thing

marble crater
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Change that or Quietude for Perfect timing I guess

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Or be like me, drop One with the warp on Inferno

gray juniper
#

Quietude does work so well that I don’t think I want to let it go

glacial vapor
#

I would be more inclined to drop EE or wildfire personally

hearty wolf
#

No EE on inferno?

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That sounds fucking aids

gray juniper
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Yea I am not letting that go

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It works way too well

glacial vapor
#

Hide in the shield, EZ

Nothing else could possibly go wrong

hearty wolf
#

The one red reaper in the corner

gray juniper
#

Eh sometimes situations changes by team adjustment or something

hearty wolf
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In an ideal world you'd never have to use EE because you're blasting into a funnel so it wouldn't matter

gray juniper
#

I’ve had unlucky movement of bad shield spot or need to change place

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And the unlucky shield in the ground is killer

hearty wolf
#

But when pushing, it can be pretty good

gray juniper
#

When bosses show up unexpectedly it can make the shield you just dropped irrelevant

marble crater
#

You don't know all the boss spawns yet?

hearty wolf
#

You just need to fight for bubble

marble crater
#

Smh

hearty wolf
#

BoN in shambles

gray juniper
marble crater
#

Okay Karien alt

strong gulch
# gray juniper Quietude does work so well that I don’t think I want to let it go

Here's the thing. Quietude offers non combat toughness gen which great and can make gas or similar a little more forgiving. In maels and lower havocs, mettle + quietude is enough especially paired with bubble.

BUT in H40, you have -85% to quell speed and have ER. That is a major ding to quietude's effectiveness. Plus quelling is a vulnerable state. With the high density of high havocs, stuff is always on fire and you can block while things die from SB. Bubble will not always be an option.

gray juniper
strong gulch
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You can drop soulstealer an rely on mettle and quietude in high havocs. Agent Chaos does.

Syllo, Six, and myself all prefer to drop quietude.

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ER is meta in high havoc.

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It is not for inferno in maels

radiant frigate
gray juniper
#

Is it absolute necessity to use it?

strong gulch
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Especially with bubble

strong gulch
gray juniper
#

I didn’t know that a havoc thing

strong gulch
#

ER allows you to cast more and be more aggressive vs quelling more for longer.

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

Personally I drop KF instead so I can have all of them

radiant frigate
marble crater
radiant frigate
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i don't think you have "-85% quell speed" as much as you have "+85% quell time"

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i don't think they're making you quell 6 times as long

hearty wolf
strong gulch
radiant frigate
marble crater
strong gulch
radiant frigate
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Yes

strong gulch
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IDK then. I am going off the language used in Kuli guide.

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The effect is it takes more time to quell.

gray juniper
# strong gulch Here's the thing. Quietude offers non combat toughness gen which great and can m...

I see the theory on how this works and yea I noticed some mechanics work wildly different with the enemy density

So say I take empyric resolve and drop quietude, what’s a comparable toughness regenerative node to replace Q? FWIW I didn’t notice the quell speed delay. I usually tap quell and let it self cool because the countdown rolls a lot faster if you at least tap once and peril takes a while to build if you’re at zero. The counter seems to roll down fast if you hold it for just a couple seconds. Then again. I did get hit a lot more than you guys and head popped multiple times due to managing too much

potent echo
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The tics happen at the same rate, but you quell less per tic

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I never take quietude on any builds ever, just melee to get toughness chadgryn

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Or soulstealer

hearty wolf
strong gulch
hearty wolf
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So it wouldn't be time

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Or it would take you multiple seconds to quell at that point, no?

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This might be an English thing

strong gulch
potent echo
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But is the same

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It's constant speed

strong gulch
#

There is essence harvest, but that still costs a point that isn't along they way.

hearty wolf
#

But

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Have you considered distance

radiant frigate
hearty wolf
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I mean it's pedantic since we already know what we mean I believe

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It's just the wording

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It take longer, not that much longer

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Just press f

potent echo
summer prairie
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tick time isn't constant

radiant frigate
#

speed reduced by 85% is not the same as distance extended by 85%

potent echo
#

It isn't?

hearty wolf
#

Game does some smoothing

radiant frigate
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if i'm driving at 100 kph and my speed is reduced by 85% i'm now at 15 kph and driving 100km now takes me upwards of 6h, as opposed to driving at 100 kph but having to drive 185km

summer prairie
#

Solidity and I think the havoc penalty change tick time, have't tested the latter but pretty sure

gray juniper
summer prairie
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the highest havoc penalty is 1.85x modifier, solidity is 0.7 and they are multiplicative

hearty wolf
#

No amount of distance is gonna make a difference if you just go fast

marble crater
#

This is why we don't have a speed limit on the Autobahn

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Can't speed, if there is no limit

potent echo
hearty wolf
#

Neoww

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On another note, I've begun watching Grand Tour again

strong gulch
# gray juniper Sorry can you rephrase this? I’m having trouble understanding

There is no quietude replacement. The closest thing is essence harvest, but you're still spending the same amount of points.

In H40, there's high density and more than likely a bunch of staff happening with no or very little down time except if you are moving to a new section or engagement. So waiting a few seconds for peril to go down either is happening when it's safe and coherency toughness builds or from active quelling (staff assumed) during a fight. You can keep attacking more if you have ER and can keep peril up if running to a new place.

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That being said, do what works for you.

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If quietude and no soulstealer and no ER is what best facilitates your specific gameplay, then do that.

paper oriole
marble crater
paper oriole
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It is just x * (1-0.85)
Or x * (1+0.85)

potent echo
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Idk how distance got mixed in but isn't it speed vs time

paper oriole
paper oriole
marble crater
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Distance got mixed in because of the driving analogy

paper oriole
marble crater
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I just pick Battle Meditation anyway and ignore this entire conversation KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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Yes, I don't have Soulstealer in havoc, because of it

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I'm immune to all the arguments, because I pick BM and don't have another choice anyway

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Checkmate psykers

gray juniper
strong gulch
gray juniper
strong gulch
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So it'd just be moving either soulstealer or quietude over to perfect timing.

gray juniper
strong gulch
hearty wolf
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It's just very middle heavy I guess

gray juniper
#

The point of consideration is of 10% rending from penetration of the soul or perfect timing’s 5% count?

strong gulch
#

If you don't want to even worry about KF exploding a burster, you can drop it, but it's a good node.

It can be the thing that quickly kicks off a chain reaction.

hearty wolf
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Pots is garbage 😭

strong gulch
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Pots does little compared to PT

gray juniper
#

Ok so if that’s superior choice I’m definitely dropping it

marble crater
#

They should break it again, so people are not tempted to pick it

strong gulch
#

PT has a bigger and more consistent buff.

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If you were doing shriek spam, Pots might be worth considering.

gray juniper
strong gulch
#

You also mentioned OwtW as a possible drop, and this is true.

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You can also try that and not change your toughness gen

gray juniper
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I think Sut did?

strong gulch
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see how that works for you

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oh

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lmao

gray juniper
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It’s cool

marble crater
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I did, I don't pick it in havoc

gray juniper
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Idk it’s pretty useful though right?

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It’s easily noticeable on damage rates when you’re up there and something is advancing on you, but with ER yea… it probably has a lot less utility

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Wait I’m confusing things

strong gulch
marble crater
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With the nerf to toughness I decided to go full health in havoc, no toughness? Don't need the toughness damage reduction talent smart

gray juniper
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It’s damage resistance. If I would drop that @marble crater what would be left that’s even worth replacing it with?

strong gulch
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You keep your toughness gen nodes and take PT.

marble crater
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My extra point is in Battle Meditation

gray juniper
#

Ok so back to the top lol

potent echo
strong gulch
potent echo
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Unless the dog does toughness damage

strong gulch
#

Brains too cooked right now. lmao

marble crater
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Time for sleep?

strong gulch
#

ye seems like it

paper oriole
gray juniper
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It’s like you’re fighting in a haunted house universe

gray juniper
marble crater
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Shield push shenanigans

gray juniper
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Oh a bulwark did that?

marble crater
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From the boss, the same thing that insta kills people sometimes, because bugged

strong gulch
marble crater
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If "What is toughness grace period?" was a clip

gray juniper
marble crater
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Don't stand close to the captain

gray juniper
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When he lurches over I just dodge every time now

marble crater
#

Never happened to me, to be fair

marble crater
#

I'm built different

potent echo
#

Can you dodge the shield explosion staregryn

strong gulch
#

it felt bad KEKW_ogryn

gray juniper
#

I bet

strong gulch
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Idk how I lived because it's usually a down.

potent echo
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Yea I saw in the agent clip

gray juniper
#

Funny moment. At the start of the chasm match with potato and sin I slide dodged right under the hammer of a crusher

strong gulch
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AND THE GAME DIDN'T LET ME BLOCK FOR A MOMENT

I was scared

gray juniper
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Seized up in pain fr fr

potent echo
#

Definitely never happened to me too, nope uwugryn

summer prairie
#

sometimes the shield overload bug only does minimal damage, a shorter fall if you will

gray juniper
strong gulch
#

What a way to throw. KEKW_ogryn

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Another clip with a dog making noise

marble crater
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Classic Gloriana match, everyone dead at the start

hearty wolf
#

That's hilarious you have so little hp that it fully corrupts you

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I think it's about 50% of my hp

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Also now that I see it in your clip

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I really have fuck all toughness gen huh

hearty wolf
potent echo
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I also found out the other day that pox gas is lethal

hearty wolf
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Learning why it was dog shit

potent echo
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I thought it would cap at 1hp but no

upper sun
radiant frigate
#

but vet good

hearty wolf
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But I don't

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Stamina regen in the BIN

gray juniper
hearty wolf
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I'm pretty sure the toughness replenishment also stacks with normal gas grenades

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I'd need to double check

gray juniper
radiant frigate
potent echo
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Psyker - glass Cannon
Vet - weak lungs
Arbiter - KEKW_ogryn

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Balance needs another whole looking at

radiant frigate
#

something something fatshark says vet is a ranged character

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idk

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weird either way

strong gulch
#

Must have been a double punch. Twin doing the push thing and the mine

gray juniper
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It doesn’t have enough inherent ranged perks to separate it far enough from the other classes imo

potent echo
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I forgor if mine depleted toughness

weary crane
#

Ay, darktide no longer has "mixed" reviews

strong gulch
marble crater
potent echo
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Mostly positive 70%

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Arby glazers rise up

vagrant furnace
#

Yay can do aurics now, will leave pos review

plucky flax
#

Im leaving negative review cos they removed sedition

gray juniper
potent echo
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It really is the new vet

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Even easier to play you can can't pick a wrong blitz/ability

weary crane
potent echo
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Yes Sitgryn

paper oriole
weary crane
#

Yeah and now nobody in pugs deals with shooters

potent echo
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Nor specials

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But did anything really change in that regard KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
#

One of the reasons I love EK. Anti shooter and specials staff.

weary crane
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I use EP BB for gunners

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But thank god pus hardened is gone

paper oriole
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What are on about, I have arbys one shoting all the threats with their shotguns every game

strong gulch
potent echo
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Depends if they are poggers or not

weary crane
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Pus hardened is aids

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Trying to kill hardened with assail is torture

gray juniper
weary crane
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I'm trying to use revolver with arby to kill gunners, but i havent tested break point

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I have hand cannon + surgical, flak + elite

gray juniper
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Most of the time I’m popping bubble and having to BB 1/2 the shooters for them. Then turn around and watch them furiously melee’ing everything still

paper oriole
gray juniper
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I try to throw a “thanks” early in the match hoping it getting team play going

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Seems to work mostly

paper oriole
gray juniper
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With EE I just try to float and dodge while helping on elites so they change focus

potent echo
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EE means you are even better at killing shooters

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just stand in the open and brrrr

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assumes you have recon ofc

gray juniper
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I’m strictly practicing staves lately

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But you have a point. This might be opportune time to queue up bubble knight for pubs

jovial juniper
gray juniper
#

True

hearty wolf
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You get extra mechanics to pay attention to

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But for what

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Gold toughness?

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So it breaks it for me.

hearty wolf
hearty wolf
strong gulch
#

Red, pus hardened, gas and dreg seed KEKW_ogryn

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Long hallways and open areas be upon ye

weary crane
#

Red, golden, pus hardened, healing carapace horde

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And mfs say that they can take it out with no "op" stuff

marble crater
#

They don't use the OP stuff, but the rest of the team does

cunning crown
#

what's the major stat psykers generally want on their curios? +toughness?

marble crater
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You can do 2 toughness 1 health, 2 toughness 1 stamina, 1 toughness 1 health 1 stamina, 1 toughness 2 health, whatever you prefer, just don't take wounds or a lot of stamina.
I myself use 2 toughness and 1 stamina, if you are newer you might want to do 2 toughness and 1 health maybe

wispy bay
#

I only played arby for the last 2 weeks, and still haven't get to 75 games... wtf.

marble crater
#

Play more

jovial juniper
wispy bay
#

To be fair, the class is kind of brain dead. You don't need to manage too many things.

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Break the line also has like 10 seconds CD.

wraith sphinx
#

The class is very dull to play and you can get away by playing very recklessly

rigid moss
#

Isn’t the same kinda true for ogryn and zealot though?

wraith sphinx
#

No because they don't have dogs and have better weapon variety

rigid moss
#

Whenever I played 5 rounds of ogryn and then switch back to psyker I get fuck all done because I‘m so used to being a big hunk of flesh that doesn’t easily die.

wispy bay
#

zealot has a lot more condition to get boosts.

glacial vapor
#

Nope because Ogryns much more vulnerable to ranged + trappers/dogs

wispy bay
#

Orgryn has big hurt box

wind wind
jovial juniper
#

😭

wraith sphinx
wind wind
jovial juniper
#

Got fatshamed by the net

glacial vapor
#

True pain

rigid moss
#

Ogryn at least has some amusement due to sheer size

glacial vapor
#

"Ha, I dodged i- FUUUUUUU"

cunning crown
tepid wing
#

depends on your loadout but ye

rigid moss
#

„The hang“ as in „having fun with“

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And yes, I have them at 30

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If that was the question - not sure

tepid wing
#

even if duelling sword is GOAT it takes like 2 minutes worth of dodging on a swarm to take a single one out

marble crater
#

Maybe don't use the single target weapon for horde clear

rigid moss
#

I was about to say

paper oriole
rigid moss
#

If you hordeclear with DS it means you’re using your tools wrong

tepid wing
marble crater
#

Nah, wounds are a trap, they don't make you survive better Dank unless you blow up all the time I guess

wraith sphinx
#

Yeah one wound can help when you don't yet have a hang of controlling peril and panic cast stuff

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But anything beyond that is a worrying skill issue

paper oriole
#

I disagree, having one more down before dying is a good way to smooth transition

young cliff
#

Psyker parkour>>>wound curio

tepid wing
#

i never blow myself up but i never trust things to not go south where i might want 33% more health

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also because curios were made before havoc when grimoire resistance was important for points

wraith sphinx
#

Huh

cunning crown
wraith sphinx
#

Isnt grimoire res a trap option

tepid wing
#

it is for havoc

wraith sphinx
#

Just take corruption res it has a better opportunity cost

tepid wing
#

if you're new then it's a decent option to powerlevel

wind wind
wraith sphinx
#

Xp boost is better for that

tepid wing
#

"haha i dodged! wait my second dodge was a jump- NOOOOO"

wraith sphinx
#

Anyways irrelevant you can level a char from 1-30 in a couple afternoons anyway

marble crater
tepid wing
#

in a day if you have a day to kill and someone to carry you through heresy+

wind wind
tepid wing
wraith sphinx
#

I don't mind grimoires but ppl who collect them also tend to die KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
#

You have a keyboard with like, what, 60?

paper oriole
#

Coming from vermintide I was suprised how little grims and scriptures matter

tepid wing
#

i have fat fingers and a lot of the people doing things like backwards dodges have mice with extra buttons

wind wind
wraith sphinx
#

I never rebound dodge, it is still on space for me

tepid wing
#

i guess i'm at the regular skill ceiling with auric because high havoc needs greater reaction than "pinky finger go!"

marble crater
wraith sphinx
wraith sphinx
tepid wing
#

but all i get are randoms...

wind wind
glacial vapor
hearty wolf
#

What the fuck are you planning to bind jump to

#

Xd

paper oriole
#

Alt

wraith sphinx
#

I warmly recommend you upgrade

hearty wolf
#

This ain't CS

#

Alt is the way

wraith sphinx
#

When I started out I also played darktide in a 3mouse button

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Then I bought a g403 hero and it was a big improvement

paper oriole
marble crater
#

Having jump and dodge on the same button does actually get you killed though

hearty wolf
tepid wing
#

but that's what i'm saying, i think i've reached the regular skill ceiling on keyboard without rebinding/getting better equipment sadface

hearty wolf
#

You've got to calculate burster trajectory

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And speed of dog+ distance

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And how to block line of sight for your teammates so they don't steal dog kill so you can proc EO

#

Much harder than any other class

#

Also limited ammo unlike psyker..😭

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More complicated blitz with remote detonation

paper oriole
#

Really hard, makes you think 🤔

tepid wing
#

early level: wow fire sucks
high level: wow fire rocks

tepid wing
# hearty wolf I also highly doubt this

i know i can do mid-havocs for sure at regular but my usual friends don't want to try and the times i've tried with pubs either i was the weak link or we all were at the same level and sucked so i have to assume if i can do better it could be gear

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like auric maelstrom is usually fine

paper oriole
#

True skill ceiling is created by how much time you have to play a given game

hearty wolf
#

Maybe I don't understand what you're saying, sorry.

tepid wing
#

well i did have to rebind dodge in cyberpunk from l-ctrl to g because i can't pinky like that

hearty wolf
#

I don't get how you can say you were the weakest link and then attribute it all to a gear issue when we're talking about mid havoc and then say you're at your skill ceiling unless you rebind

#

Am I just dumb or

tepid wing
#

I guess what I am saying is I am at that cusp where I am the strongest of my friends' group but none of them want to go past that to high havoc so when I try to join mid-havoc I can't carry so I have to assume I suck as well
I just don't have a dedicated group anymore because I put too many hours in, but not enough for a higher level

glacial vapor
#

I rebound dodge when I was levelling characters in Malice KEKW_ogryn

jovial juniper
hearty wolf
#

The game can be extremely formulaic if you want it to be and it's real easy

#

With randoms, all you're doing is controlling how random they're being or dealing with it as you go

tepid wing
#

it's a large responsibility

hearty wolf
#

Yesh, is what it means to carry

#

I adopt you later out of curiosity

#

We shove you straight into a red purple havoc 40

#

And observe

hearty wolf
#

3 more h and I'm off work

#

And the reckoning begins

tepid wing
#

i'm at work now for the next 9 hours

hearty wolf
#

You're sick

#

😭

tepid wing
#

i'm american so yes

hearty wolf
#

Do you have a commute home 🤔

tepid wing
#

yes but my boss is off this week so i'm logging in remotely because he never checks the logs

hearty wolf
#

I see

#

I may be around for a game or two then although is pretty late for moi

tepid wing
#

what about before work for you then?

hearty wolf
#

Nah I wake up 3 minutes before I start work xd

#

There's always weekends

tepid wing
#

sounds like a choom after my own heart

hearty wolf
#

:>

hearty wolf
#

Actually killed chat

#

Something exciting happen so I have something to read 😭

jovial juniper
#

I got nothing exciting to say

#

But here we go

#

Arbitrator is mid

hearty wolf
#

L take

jovial juniper
hearty wolf
#

It's not debatable 😭

#

We need master bait

#

@marble crater oh that reminds me

#

I had a dream about something to do with you

#

It was something to do with German too

#

But I forgot

marble crater
#

Should I be worried the next time we are in voice chat together?

hearty wolf
#

Wait

#

I remember something

#

I said "Abzeelootlee"

#

Something something bitte klein

marble crater
#

Wtf throwing

hearty wolf
#

There was some howling and someone saying "Bitte verzeih mir, bitte verzeih mir, bitte verzeih mir"

#

I wish I could remember what this dream was about LOL

marble crater
#

I hope you don't staregryn this just sounds disturbing KEKW_ogryn

hearty wolf
#

It was something really horrific

#

Trauma response made me forget

#

Only to remember later tonight I'm sure

marble crater
#

Sin is going to barrel me for what I did in his dream, I can feel it throwing

jovial juniper
#

💀

hearty wolf
#

It think it was Wolfenstein like

#

But I don't remember what this has to do with Sut

marble crater
#

This is getting worse and worse Sitgryn

hearty wolf
#

LOL

#

I'm deleting this before I get cancelled

marble crater
#

I don't even remember my dreams 99% of the time and then there is this guy KEKW_ogryn

hearty wolf
#

I dream a LOT. They're usually very intense.

#

Could write many novels based on them tbh

#

Better written than most stories in current media

#

It's like the only reason I like to sleep. I get story time

marble crater
#

Well if the stories are like this one, please don't KEKW_ogryn

hearty wolf
#

🔫

#

There's some smut too

#

SmutvoO

marble crater
#

In that case you can write with Karien together

rigid moss
#

"MY Dream, MY Rules, MY Smut"?

#

Very psyker thing to do, really.

#

"Yes, beloved, they're all naked, why wouldn't they be?"

jovial juniper
#

"Smut raised, come to me" 🗣️

#

Psykers and their incomparable smut

marble crater
#

Do you see what you have done? We are turning into zealot chat staregryn

hearty wolf
#

Cease

jovial juniper
#

Eh

#

Zealot chat is pretty tame compared to Psykers

radiant frigate
hearty wolf
#

When you're as old as me...

#

Just CBA anymore

radiant frigate
#

and how old is that, pray tell

hearty wolf
#

24 years of age

radiant frigate
#

does that make me ancient then

hearty wolf
#

How old is that

rigid moss
#

I was about to ask the same question.

radiant frigate
#

29

hearty wolf
#

Hag

#

Sorry

#

Intrusive thoughts

#

No, I think you've aged like a fine wine

hearty wolf
#

It's okay

#

I can teach you with my creaky bones

radiant frigate
#

i will gladly embrace the title next year

hearty wolf
#

I'll make it a point to bother you just to call you a hag then

#

When birthday

radiant frigate
#

16/07

hearty wolf
#

Dude

#

That's so recent

#

You didn't say nothing

#

/pat

#

Happy belated birthday!

radiant frigate
#

thank you! though i don't really celebrate

gray juniper
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Had a scary dream last night

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It’s funny because the shield dome looked like the psyker shield

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There’s this towering King Kong ape that we’re hiding from. So where in a building that’s partially submerged in electrified water and an energy dome

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For some reason everyone is outside at a campfire complaining about the ape and I’m like “wtf are we doing why are we not in the dome?” And it comes ofc

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Dreamers non-anonymous

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I have read the stories, I'm not trusting any German grandma offering me pie

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So now we're baking kids into Lebkuchen here.

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Also a very psyker thing to do I assume.

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Why do we have an Inferno Staff if not to light the fire in the oven?

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let the taste speak for itself

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soup also an okay option

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But for that we'd need something to grind them in to mushy little bits. An Ogryn might be better suited for that task.

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(it gives the meat such a flavor)

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Technically my grandma's

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First says don’t trust grandmas, then talks about his grandma’s kid recipe

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Her kid recipes are elite I must imagine

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Not with kids loregryn

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Update it to be both 🙂

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Lebkuchen with a rich, kid-bases dipping sauce on the side?

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I'd say the concept has potential

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My gut is saying to call it a happy meal

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Not my grandma uwugryn