too many numbers
#psyker-class
long wharf
brazen rampart
Hell has frozen over, I have laughed at a joke in psyker chat.
long wharf
should have gone with 1-900-MEOW-UWU
radiant frigate
i do not UWU
radiant frigate
FUCK
marble crater
brazen rampart
Hook, line, and sinker.
radiant frigate
long wharf
thus concludes my good deed for the day.
ornate hamlet
I wonder if Mal still uses the Shart profile picture too
His was the black-haired one
radiant frigate
I wonder if Mal still uses the Shart profile picture too
well there is still shadowheart
and still black-haired
ornate hamlet
Oh yeah, he Shart too
radiant frigate
wdym "too"
radiant frigate
who else is shadowheart
ornate hamlet
Is it one with that glorious reverb fart sound effect?
long wharf
it has all kinds of different farts
it made every active creature fart periodically
players did it when crouching
ornate hamlet
Big if true
long wharf
not my most popular mod, but easily one of the ones most requested to be updated for recent versions (I've stopped updating my Valheim mods)
ornate hamlet
Wonder if there's something like that for Conan Exiles
Conan himself probably farted a lot
long wharf
all meat diet? highly likely
dull scroll
@long wharf what is this where are the darktide mods
ornate hamlet
UI skill issue
deft stump
dull scroll
dog mods huh, I might dl them hmmm
long wharf
I use them myself
paper oriole
https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/1044
We discussion about it today - but its this close to "zealot posting"?
long wharf
nah, nowhere near
paper oriole
Okay, I trust you sibling
I am still relativly new here, finding out how stuff works here
paper oriole
dog mods huh, I might dl them hmmm
Obesefish doesn't treat mods as cheats?
long wharf
nope
the only mods they don't like are ones that give people access to cosmetics they haven't paid for or otherwise unlocked
verbal thistle
Obesefish doesn't treat mods as cheats?
it varies
stark crown
What the fuck did I open too
verbal thistle
there has been mods that have been taken down like the "always 1st attack"
awhile ago
cause its just a simplified macro
paper oriole
What the fuck did I open too
Do you not like prequel memes/quotes?
paper oriole
there has been mods that have been taken down like the "always 1st attack"
Okay, not "hardline" mods
verbal thistle
I am making another thumbnai
lucid terrace
cause its just a simplified macro
I don't wanna get carpal tunnel tho 
(I say, being a perfectly healthy individual who just wants to cheat 
)
lucid terrace
I am making another thumbnai
Show
verbal thistle
working on it
loud girder
kid named skitarus
lucid terrace
stark crown
but it will have these in it
These psyker tricks are for PROS only
ornate hamlet
Blows up pinky with table
paper oriole
These psyker tricks are for PROS only
What about twisting of the testicles?
spice veldt
testicular twisters
fresh reef
goin' for that Diviner vibe
finally got a build that feels good to play without relying on soulblaze or Scrier's for horde clearing, while also being actually capable (hypothetically) of staying alive in higher havocs with careful positioning
marble crater
What's going on with that staff and curio? 
fresh reef
staff is being used mainly as a defensive tool to weave into melee
left click to drop perils quickly in case of emergency, or right click to boost damage into armor and stagger
marble crater
Is the low blast radius on purpose?
fresh reef
yeah. least impactful stat for the build
ripe obsidian
Warp Expenditure instead of Mettle is a choice.
marble crater
Okay, bomber and flamer resistance only works for their kicks, not the fire. You can safely change those
ripe obsidian
And more cleave on Assail instead of faster recharge.
marble crater
Unless you are into getting kicked by the flamer, I'm not kink shaming
ripe obsidian
Purloin Providence instead of Crack of Bone?
And why the line shield instead of bubble?
fresh reef
Unless you are into getting kicked by the flamer, I'm not kink shaming
I swear to god they changed those stats a while ago to affect flame/gas damage
fresh reef
And more cleave on Assail instead of faster recharge.
bro...
marble crater
I swear to god they changed those stats a while ago to affect flame/gas damage
Did they actually?
fresh reef
Purloin Providence instead of Crack of Bone?
more consistent melee damage while allowing small dips for assail weave
also, the extra targets and warp cleave nodes stack
ripe obsidian
I am aware.
rigid moss
I don't think I've ever seen anyone prefer the left side of the shield over bubble
fresh reef
(also also, mettle was only not chosen to remove the speed bonus)
rigid moss
Like... why when you could have bubble instead
ripe obsidian
I wasn't going to be rude, but since you're shouting at me to read, this build is pretty shit.
It's a worse version of bubble knight in every way
fresh reef
I don't think I've ever seen anyone prefer the left side of the shield over bubb...
without any CDR, it's better uptime; having the specialist stagger also means you can block off certain spawn routes for easier defense
marble crater
I don't think I've ever seen anyone prefer the left side of the shield over bubb...
There are some uses for the shield, good for stunning hounds and mutie waves
fresh reef
I wasn't going to be rude, but since you're shouting at me to read, this build i...
mfw meta dodging build is objectively worse than build allowing for meta nodes
‼️
and I was telling you to read because you corrected a node that literally wasn't picked because you wanted to be correct
rigid moss
There are some uses for the shield, good for stunning hounds and mutie waves
Seems very niche though
marble crater
Seems very niche though
It is
ripe obsidian
Maybe you should learn to read.
fresh reef
And more cleave on Assail instead of faster recharge.
this reads more as suggestion than a critique
mb
paper oriole
Go back to zealot chat
How is that zealot level stuff
You need to give a guide
For that is less deranged then furries or fartheim
fresh reef
Seems very niche though
it is incredibly niche compared to how strong bubble is by itself; that being said, wall can allow for some strats that are just impossible with bubble alone
marble crater
Is it less deranged though? 
fresh reef
like, you can turn a doorway into an impassable fortress of death
especially so with purgatus
(also as an aside, makes burster waves much safer to deal with)
rigid moss
I can see that for very specific chokepoints but it seems hard to give up bubble for that reason alone
Maybe if you have two psykers
then yeah sure
paper oriole
Is it less deranged though? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
I mean, others are out of the box. This a apliance of combat method
fresh reef
bubble + wall on the same team is actually insanely good defense, if played around one another properly
rigid moss
yeah I can see that but then again you have two psykers
which, well, you could have two ogryns instead
paper oriole
Is it less deranged though? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Also, I was playing a zealot when I wrote tihs so maybe he possesed me 🫣
fresh reef
which, well, you could have two ogryns instead
many such cases 😔
marble crater
Also, I was playing a zealot when I wrote tihs so maybe he possesed me 🫣
Lost cause 
marble crater
I'm not the one playing zealot 
paper oriole
Argumentum at perosna etc
tulip kettle
which, well, you could have two ogryns instead
oh awesome, now i get TWO ogryns to stand behind me spamming their rumblers while i fight the armour blob in mortal melee combat!
paper oriole
I'm not the one playing zealot <:angymorrow:1062670568916267038>
You need to know how they work, to know how to hurt them
marble crater
I know how to hurt them, shoot the barrel twice when they are in range
stark crown
oh awesome, now i get TWO ogryns to stand behind me spamming their rumblers whil...
The bumbler stereotype never fails
marble crater
I have tested it, it works
tulip kettle
hey ogryn, why is, everytime i turn around, youre swinging into poxwalkers behind us?
paper oriole
You not me 
tulip kettle
"the elites are at the front and i might die"
rigid moss
I think I never touched my zealot again after getting her to level 30.
which had a certain charm and BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR will never get old for me
but the playstyle doesnt do much for me.
paper oriole
oh awesome, now i get TWO ogryns to stand behind me spamming their rumblers whil...
He wasn't given a taller body to not shoot over you
nimble shadow
Electroshock stave
tulip kettle
thank you for your helpful input 🙂
glacial vapor
EK and VB, technically
paper oriole
I think I never touched my zealot again after getting her to level 30.
I am trying to get all penances, already have psyker done. After that I think I will also let him rot
tulip kettle
im getting jel watching arbiters just hit bulwarks upside the head from the front
and as expected the answer is no
glacial vapor
With what?
tulip kettle
arb maul
glacial vapor
With the special?
tulip kettle
i guess so
its an overhead strike
their model is tall
they just hit bulwark in head
glacial vapor
That's not been my experience
Maybe you need max height? Lol
Ogryn can do it with shovels
tulip kettle
they are tall
and yes i know ogryn can with a number of weapons
its the special
walk up to bulwark
look left at his hand
special attack
analog verge
force sword push can open them up immediately, does that count
tulip kettle
no
its not that im struggling to deal with em or sthing i was just wondering how arb is doing it
when you do the above it breaks their guard and turns them 90 to your right
and does some negligible amount of dmg
paper oriole
Zealot penances are a pain though
They feel like pain, I have done right side of the tree and it was pain.
I guess they want you to feel like a flagelant
rigid moss
Yeah. At least the Vet penances involving stealth are done relatively rapidly
deft stump
Yeah. At least the Vet penances involving stealth are done relatively rapidly
It's the MMF one you'll hate.
rigid moss
mmf?
stark crown
Best way to cheese it is crouch dodge everywhere with a knife
rigid moss
stark crown
Crabwalking vet as we call it
rigid moss
that one takes forever indeed
paper oriole
I heard that orgyn also takes a while
rigid moss
ogryn is at least a little more dumb fun to play than zealot but that might just be me
zealot feels stupid and bad. ogryn feels stupud and fun. Can't even properly explain why.
towering over everything I guess
dull scroll
spray infernus recon into hordes 👍
paper oriole
zealot feels stupid and bad. ogryn feels stupud and fun. Can't even properly exp...
Well, throwing a knife to a face just to get a kill on the counter feels stupid casue it is xD
deft stump
that one takes forever indeed
Even with cheese, it takes literally 45 mins of holding down a turbo controller at a door.
paper oriole
They defenitly are - hiting them feels like a high
But 500 is a lot, especialy with everyone trying to kill specials :/
sinful perch
Man inferno staff is so fun, absolutely destroying swarms of enemies while an Ogryn acts as my meat shield
fresh reef
@ripe obsidian hey, apologies for my rudeness earlier; lemme try actually justifying the choice of more cleave over recharge speed instead of just being a pretentious ass
cleave over recharge speed is chosen to maximize the value you can get out of weaved (ie, tossing in only one, maybe two or three charges, during melee combos) assail; and since by the time you either get low enough peril to weave again or in my case you smack a DD target, you would've already generated the amount spent since last weave
30% increased CD is very minimal as a DPS change, since I'm almost never spending all 10 charges at once
thorn cedar
I've never cared for faster recharge.
ripe obsidian
<@230796342165897226> hey, apologies for my rudeness earlier; lemme try *actuall...
Thank you for the apology. I am sorry for being rude as well. I'm apparently in a mood today, but that doesn't justify taking it out on other people.
Your reasoning is valid, thanks for explaining it in more detail.
strong gulch
so wholesome 😭
marble crater
This is the internet, why are you apologizing to each other?
sinful perch
This is the internet, why are you apologizing to each other?
Because it's basic decency
marble crater
paper oriole
This is the internet, why are you apologizing to each other?
Why one should have bad blood with other people when you can have no bad blood with other people?
Why hate if you can be nice
marble crater
Taylor Swift's song is called Bad Blood, it's not called No Bad Blood. I rest my case
paper oriole
paper oriole
Taylor Swift's song is called Bad Blood, it's not called No Bad Blood. I rest my...
There are also other role models 🫣
strong gulch
I'm gonna send Sut the worst of American chocolate. He'll know it's on the way and will have a prolonged sense of dread.
marble crater
I'm gonna send Sut the worst of American chocolate. He'll know it's on the way a...
Please don't, I'm sorry for not being serious and joking
strong gulch
ripe obsidian
I have had Belgian chocolate and Norwegian chocolate. Both were better than any American chocolate I have had. Icelandic chocolate was okay
marble crater
Plus vomit taste
marble crater
Like, it's fine if it tastes bad, but why vomit though?
strong gulch
oop I'm crying
marble crater
Who sat there and thought "You know what people will love? Vomit taste"
strong gulch
I don't think they taste like vomit but I can see why someone would say that.
dull scroll
Who sat there and thought "You know what people will love? Vomit taste"
Japan, it must be japan
strong gulch
I think apple sause sometimes tastes like vomit
upper sun
i had american style brownies once and almost died
apparently they were just butter and chocolate
marble crater
i had american style brownies once and almost died
Did they shoot at you? 
upper sun
they were undigestible
long wharf
then they weren't really brownies
upper sun
apparently my friend thought they were just eggs butter and chocolate with zero flour
long wharf
.... did your friend make them?
upper sun
yeah
marble crater
upper sun
i have no idea
marble crater
Yeah that doesn't count
long wharf
that's like eating some sand at a beach in France and thinking "man french cuisine tastes like sand"
dull scroll
then how the hell do you qualify that as "american style brownie"?
if it has weed in them 😏
marble crater
It's like me making French wine and then drinking a class of water and complaining about the taste
upper sun
apparently them being counted as a culinary WMD made them american
marble crater
Both with France example
dull scroll
don't you lecture me on weed, I'm in Canada I'm an expert
thorn cedar
if we classify jubjubs as real food then yeah
upper sun
weed extracts taste horrible idk how people manage
long wharf
what are jubjubs?
marble crater
They are already high
sinful perch
if we classify jubjubs as real food then yeah
Jubjub sounds like a slur from the star wars universe
long wharf
it kinda does
thorn cedar
jubjub yo mama kikikiki -laser blaster sounds-
paper oriole
Cousin of jarjar
long wharf
JarJar's "slow" cousin
paper oriole
I fear to imagine xD
long wharf
oh, difficult-to-chew-and-mostly-tasteless "gummies"
random thunder
is there a cleave limit ? what happens if I go over 100%
upper sun
you cleave through reality and open a portal to the warp
radiant frigate
zealot feels stupid and bad. ogryn feels stupud and fun. Can't even properly exp...
what's so bad about zealot
zealot good no?
sinful perch
is there a cleave limit ? what happens if I go over 100%
Your cleave gets so strong you cut your with every swing
jovial juniper
is there a cleave limit ? what happens if I go over 100%
No there's no cleave limit per se
However
The limit is 128 targets hit by your melee
Ogryn with Unstoppable Force should be able to hit those
sinful perch
The limit is 128 targets hit by your melee
Wtf am I supposed to do when there's 129 enemies then
Literally unplayable
jovial juniper
radiant frigate
this whole class of candy, i hate them
woe, tropifrutti upon ye
thorn cedar
ripe obsidian
I don't think they taste like vomit but I can see why someone would say that.
US milk chocolate has a weirdly acidic taste
sinful perch
Also should I slap the +25% carapace damage mod on my inferno staff to help make up for its very low soulflame damage against them?
thorn cedar
your damage against them will still be awful
and by them its really just crushers
its not worth it even if it was worth it
dull scroll
use your teammates
dull scroll
kite crushers into them
marble crater
woe, tropifrutti upon ye
dull scroll
preferably behind their back
random thunder
No there's no cleave limit per se
i have shred on my greatsword should i get the talent to get cleave by peril
radiant frigate
if you are really concerned about crusher damage with inferno, penetrating flame
thorn cedar
heh, penetrating
radiant frigate
i have shred on my greatsword should i get the talent to get cleave by peril
on any melee build yes
hearty wolf
preferably behind their back
Useless crushers only silently overhead 75% of the time 🙄
dull scroll
Useless crushers only silently overhead 75% of the time 🙄
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take 👍
long wharf
i have shred on my greatsword should i get the talent to get cleave by peril
FGS needs help with cleave
upper sun
🚬 charge speed dump purple voidstrike and thammer with no thrust
ok
were dying or im clutching
long wharf
so getting the cleave blessing on your FGS is a fine idea
unless you really want to focus on single target
dull scroll
some would argue the special takes away any need for additional cleave
long wharf
some would argue the special takes away any need for additional cleave
I'd argue that the special benefits from the cleave blessing, so it's still useful
marble crater
were dying or im clutching
You are dying
hearty wolf
What if your opinion is wrong
radiant frigate
just don't like playing them
you should engage in glorious melee combat right NOW ⚡
rigid moss
I have a bubble knight for that
radiant frigate
i will permit it
dull scroll
I'd argue that the special benefits from the cleave blessing, so it's still usef...
I donno about that, I've never seen special not cleaving through everything even though on paper it might have a limit
strong gulch
I really want to bonk :<
Is desync still gaming?
rigid moss
you should engage in glorious melee combat right NOW ⚡
Or an Ogryn with a pickaxe
Or a Vet with Weapon Specialist switching shenanigans.
Zealot just doesnt give me anything for some reason
radiant frigate
relic blade!
rigid moss
outside of BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR
radiant frigate
big sword! big bonk!
rigid moss
I like the relic blade
tulip kettle
Any gamer?
i can play a few
rigid moss
but I don't like the person wielding it
jovial juniper
Martyrdom 
rigid moss
Have an Ogryn for Bonks
hearty wolf
Is desync still gaming?
Idk
radiant frigate
play loose cannon vet and purloin a relic blade
rigid moss
would
if could
weapon specialist loose cannon relic blade sounds fun.
also broken
but also fun
voc loose cannon essentially is a zealot right
dull scroll
vet powpow sword 2 shots crushers
radiant frigate
Yes
radiant frigate
voc loose cannon essentially is a zealot right
i want these KARKERS, DEAD (HAHA)
long wharf
i want these KARKERS, DEAD (HAHA)
who is "dead"?
radiant frigate
vet not allowed to hold the armory's holiest relic
radiant frigate
who is "dead"?
karkers hopefully soon
long wharf
commas are the difference between "Let's eat, Grandma" and "Let's eat Grandma"
long wharf
he doesn't pause in the line
radiant frigate
yeah but she does
long wharf
he emphasizes "dead"
rich spindle
This is a certified discord moment
rigid moss
tbf, vet has the shovel that, when used in special attackl mode, also kinda bonks
not as bonky as the relic blade but still quite bonky
long wharf
nothing the vet has comes close to the greatness of the relic blade
FartShack needs to back-port the relic blade functionality to the power sword and thunder hammer
rigid moss
No argument here, just making do with what I got
strong gulch
I can try games. I have a migraine, but it's not super bad rn.
hearty wolf
oki
long wharf
migraines generally don't get better by staring at a computer screen
my wife suffers migraines frequently
jovial juniper
tbf, vet has the shovel that, when used in special attackl mode, also kinda bonk...
Shhhh don't talk about the shovel when the vet guide writer is nearby
ripe obsidian
My cat has crawled under the blankets and is sleeping on my foot. The joys of working from home.
jovial juniper
strong gulch
true but I've been in a dark room for hours and I'm losing it
long wharf
My cat has crawled under the blankets and is sleeping on my foot. The joys of wo...
my cat sleeps in a bed on my desk, between my monitor and keyboard
strong gulch
@hearty wolf gotta restart my pc dang mic not getting recognized
ripe obsidian
my cat sleeps in a bed on my desk, between my monitor and keyboard
I had that on my previous desk. Current one doesn't have space. Had to downsize a bit, since I now share an office with my partner
marble crater
The cat allowed that?
hearty wolf
@summer prairie Hello, do you have a mod for spawning havoc 40 variants of mobs in Psykanium? I only see Creature Spawner in the mod list
also any 1 for havoc
jovial juniper
Data tide?
strong gulch
Doesn't that take you to a testing map and not the meat grinder?
long wharf
I thought Creature Spawner only worked in the psykward
long wharf
suffering indeed
poor thing
that's my Chloe stretched out
she knows I'll play with her toes if she stays like that, but sometimes doesn't care
ripe obsidian
Good cat. Calicos and tortoiseshells are great. So much personality, generally
long wharf
yep
sinful perch
So what are the options for making psyker a bit....harder to kill? Even on heretic I'm getting absolutely blasted the second a gunner I didn't instantly see appears, or really any damage source
I'll be at full health and then a few groaners will hit me that I didn't see and now I'm down one health bar
radiant frigate
So what are the options for making psyker a bit....harder to kill? Even on heret...
- run gunner resist
- TDR talents
- empathic evasion if running a setup that allows it
marble crater
Work on positioning, be aware of your surroundings. Psyker doesn't have great ways to get tanky passively, but we have great active options. Deflector, Kinetic Deflection, attack something to gain toughness
jovial juniper
If you get hit, recover the toughness
Soulstealer is pretty easy to use
Quietude is pretty comfy
Mettle is pretty fucking good
jovial juniper
There's also Kinetic Deflection
Which turns your block into super block
One With The Warp is just good tdr
topaz mesa
Anyone want to group up? I just unlocked heresy and I'm scared to try it out
tulip kettle
womp womp
untold cradle
I have been blessed
hearty wolf
untold cradle
also cute cats
marble crater
I have been blessed
Very nice
sinful perch
One With The Warp is just good tdr
I use whichever one converts stamina being used from blocking into peril, and I also have the perk that grants toughness for quelling
It's really good, you can tank a sniper round with it no problem
But yeah, I think I have most of those perks. Was just making sure there wasn't something I was missing before I wrote it off as me having a skill issue lmao
I think my issue is I end up too far in the open and get devoured by guns
topaz mesa
Use the bubble
marble crater
Stop doing that
Sliding, dodge sliding also helps, so does running at an angle, gunners can't hit you then and have stormtrooper aim
sinful perch
Use the bubble
It gets popped within a few seconds usually from all the projectiles, or it's on cooldown from saving myself from guns last time
It's a very rough change from Arbite where you get free toughness back from basically any action including blocking
And have ranged enemies automatically dealt with for you lmao
prime elk
i swear people get worse at the game from playing arbi
rich spindle
i swear people get worse at the game from playing arbi
They do
It’s like playing on heresy
dull gyro
hey guys, is the private game bug still around? Where you cant complete private game penances? My friend tries to complete the brainburst one and we cant do it for like an hour now lol
sinful perch
Class so mid it brings the general skill expression down
I mean, I really like Arbite I just like variety. I started off as Psyker like a year ago, and came back to them cus I got tired of playing the same class + the left side keystones basically being completely broken
dull scroll
get force sword, use deflect and force push
sinful perch
I don't really care about being overpowered I just find them and the dog mechanics fun
dull scroll
don't greed staff, moment things are around you clutch that block
sinful perch
get force sword, use deflect and force push
Push attacks are 360 degrees right, they cover behind you?
dull scroll
Push attacks are 360 degrees right, they cover behind you?
the block you mean? block blocks all melee in 360, but only front from ranged if you have deflect
if you are actually asking about push atks, then no, like all melee only in front
sinful perch
the block you mean? block blocks all melee in 360, but only front from ranged if...
Weird, I've heard people say push is 360 and I didn't even know block was 360
ripe obsidian
Push and block are both 360°, with limited effectiveness against things not directly in front of you. Push attack is just in front.
sinful perch
Ah that's right push attacks are their own thing
I thought a push attack was just the block and melee button
Keep forgetting all the terminology for stuff
marble crater
hey guys, is the private game bug still around? Where you cant complete private ...
You are sure it's a private game and dealing more than 50% of health damage with brain burst?
It can bug sometimes, but 1h seems excessive and unlikely
dull gyro
yes
dull gyro
You are sure it's a private game and dealing more than 50% of health damage with...
100%
narrow herald
chat is the game dead
Always
upper sun
ok its fixed
narrow herald
upper sun
I had to queue for something else then mael
narrow herald
We bringing it back
marble crater
i cant queue
upper sun
BLOCKED
dull gyro
Also the right difficulty? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
yes 😔 just tried once again and its the same - nothin
marble crater
@upper sun why did you bug MM for everyone else?
hearty wolf
Rip should have used remote detonation on the DH instead of Nurgie
didn't think it would have beat you up
hearty wolf
😭
strong gulch
uhh
hearty wolf
is ok
strong gulch
😭
strong gulch
Thanks for games. Sorry had to leave. I can no longer
make decisions, notice things well, and my reaction time is even slower than it normally is.
I did it. I remembered.
hearty wolf
jovial juniper
strong gulch
strong gulch
there was a 283 in there
the rest were 320 and 330
young cliff
questions:
-You folks thin a brain burst focused build with gun can work?
-how much a recon lasgun infernus benefitts from precognition?
topaz mesa
What's the dump stat on voidblast staff?
verbal thistle
blast is warp res
topaz mesa
Google is telling me for voidstrike it's blast radius
But it's not saying for the blast
verbal thistle
strike is blast radius
topaz mesa
I'm only like 50 hours into the game but I need friends that'll help me...
I just started doing malice
verbal thistle
ask for it in the Lfg channels
I see plenty of people asking for leveling/learning groups
verbal thistle
young cliff
hey @verbal thistle wanted to try make a BB EP build but using guns instead of staffs, you have any idea what could be good for it?
verbal thistle
double barrel fits very well
anti rager and mixed horde
then a horde clear melee
an axe
shredder auto is a good ranged depening on how often you need it
dire situations it performs perfectly
young cliff
do Taxe/Shredder with Gaze and EP BB mixed?
topaz mesa
Oh yeah I love the staff already
verbal thistle
do Taxe/Shredder with Gaze and EP BB mixed?
taxe is so safe and easy horde clear, shredder for ragers and stagger. BB for ranged single and safe boss dps
young cliff
taxe is so safe and easy horde clear, shredder for ragers and stagger. BB for ra...
will give it a try then, ty
ripe obsidian
I did my havoc 40 duo with it
People who do H40 duos concern and scare me.
I did a trio once, but it was only because someone DC'd. Excise Vault, rituals and... I think purple? Can't recall
marble crater
i-ii-veg mael
last shore
pure mesa
how is this build these days? just came back to the game:
oh cant send images here how wonderful
analog agate
how is this build these days? just came back to the game:
Meta builds are pinned. You can compare that way
pure mesa
Meta builds are pinned. You can compare that way
say that to my face
narrow herald
how is this build these days? just came back to the game:
Trash
Don't even need to see it 😈
pure mesa
Don't even need to see it 😈
😠
strong gulch
Save build here then even grey name can post.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
young cliff
question: what blessings and perks a psyker want on a DB shotgun?
narrow herald
Is DB even good on gun psyker?
young cliff
Is DB even good on gun psyker?
I have no idea
narrow herald
I would image Agripina would be goated because it's like a Bolt Gun
If Psyker got their hands on Bolt Gun, this game would be done
gray juniper
Give psyker the spearhead boltgun
dull scroll
this class with bolter would absolutely destroy bosses
gray juniper
I wonder if they at least tested and decided not to lol
sinful perch
Can't believe I used to use brain blast assail my beloved ♥️
dull scroll
assail only king in auric, come havoc bb is precious 😌
jovial juniper
Does it benefit form precog?
It should benefit from any +weakspot
Gaze precognition
DD
proper osprey
assail only king in auric, come havoc bb is precious 😌
Assail can work in havoc
Good luck if it’s rampaging tho lol
earnest sand
Psyker is to "weak" give them spearhead bolter. I mean they gave dueling sword out
sinful perch
Assail can work in havoc
I love it so much more clearing out groups of the non elite gunner guys
But that's mainly just cus I use inferno staff so I'm kinda fucked by them
dull scroll
inferno..assail..that means you don't have psykinetics 😔
young cliff
I would image Agripina would be goated because it's like a Bolt Gun
i just wonder what weapons a psyker would want but also dont need DD, to give it on a EP build
proper osprey
I saw a gaze inferno build that was going crazy in havoc tbh
dull scroll
I saw a gaze inferno build that was going crazy in havoc tbh
as compared to what lol, it doesn't bring the utility of bubble, and there is no way it out damages vent
proper osprey
Doesn’t dd give you a 15% regular damage increase?
dull scroll
if DD straight up give buff to warpfire dmg that's something else
it probably only buffs the direct ranged damage of inferno
proper osprey
as compared to what lol, it doesn't bring the utility of bubble, and there is no...
I mean he was putting in work, I feel like with shrike it would have been better
dull scroll
which is like 10% of overall psyker dmg output
young cliff
@proper osprey you have an idea what guns would not mind skipping DD? want to make a build that uses BB EP instead
proper osprey
<@651235527491584004> you have an idea what guns would not mind skipping DD? wan...
Hmmm laspistol, any auto, vigilant, recon las
Bolt pistol or revolver
Tbh for bb ep I did inferno
I got both nodes and wildfire and such
Bb ep is amazing
Was my first psyker build
young cliff
Was my first psyker build
i have 2 builds, but those use staffs, want to make one using gun
dull scroll
if you have to use a gun, maybe just the recon, the fast firing to proc KF
young cliff
and probably the one that cares the less for DD, since it deals damage with infernus over weakspot/crits
pure mesa
blaze trauma 40
ur not allowed to use scoreboard here
young cliff
ur not allowed to use scoreboard here
sais who?
young cliff
Fatshark
they dont care for our suffering, why would we care for their made-up rules? we do crime here
tulip kettle
ill risk it i think
pure mesa
they dont care for our suffering, why would we care for their made-up rules? we ...
cuz scoreboards are toxic
dull scroll
the guy is just trolling, no way he's serious 😏
strong gulch
and probably the one that cares the less for DD, since it deals damage with infe...
What are you wanting??
strong gulch
If you want the regular gun / melee experience, then basically go right side of tree with FGS and recon. Different weapon options, but those are the usual picks.
If you want gun with shriek there's assail, shriek, FGS, bistol, and DD.
young cliff
What are you wanting??
probably something that performs good to clean small enemies, so BB can connect with bigger enemies more easily
strong gulch
probably something that performs good to clean small enemies, so BB can connect ...
So you want a EP BB?
young cliff
yeah, but where usally is better with staff, want to use gun
strong gulch
Yeas easiest weapons to slot into EP BB is inferno + a melee that's single.
You'll gonna struggle to keep peril up with BB, gun, and melee with out SG. But if you're fine playing and un optimized build then go for it.
People do run BB KF and then go SG and DD.
BB itself doesn't make that big of an appearance because melee or gun is usually used even for big enemies.
It's harder to run tho because you lack the CC of assail.
strong gulch
which can be played
are you still awake?
hearty wolf
yes
young cliff
You'll gonna struggle to keep peril up with BB, gun, and melee with out SG. But ...
that's kinda why i want to keep Gaze as part of it, will try pairing a recon infernus with a FGS just to be able to sustain peril high when im not triggering it for BB
maybe doing the FGS + bolt pistol for bleed aoe to clean fodder and then BB?
strong gulch
If you really want to keep BB but have gun and melee, then just running a typical gunker build with BB instead of assail is the way.
If you want to.
bistol is a bit slow for SG
wispy bay
strong gulch
Could do something like this with a flex point for BCoB or TTS. If you're in high enough density and can keep stacks up, you can drop cruel fortune for a different QoL node like warp speed and anticipation. Lose out on MM with BB tho.
IDK if I can do games right now. I at the very least won't have good sustain.
tulip kettle
happened again btw
doing the mid event on the cryo rods mission
i go into an open area that i know isnt safe from the gunners
but i know i have bubble in about 2 seconds
disembodied voice shouts
"theres no shelter here"
i cast bubble
gunners start shooting at me
vestal trench
what mod do people use to get more loadouts? only one i see has more character slots attached to it and im not really interested in that part
jovial juniper
By default you have 8
vestal trench
yeah i need more LOL
i replaced my auric and below inferno build for now ig since i dont play inferno out of havoc anymore
tulip kettle
wise
pure mesa
what does the new class do
vestal trench
trying out EP smite on psykhanium and im just kinda whelmed
sinful perch
Is Smite good in damnation and higher? I've heard some episodes get annoyed by it since it pauses fights
verbal thistle
trying out EP smite on psykhanium and im just kinda whelmed
damage
vestal trench
im assuming the loop is to kill horde, get EP stack, use smite on a rager pack or some shit, then use peril you get from that to vent shriek?
vestal trench
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/209
yeah this is the one i found, a bit concerned on whether the additional chars it provides is ok w/ fs or not
then again i guess i could just ignore the additonal character function
strong gulch
It's been around and widely used for ages.
tulip kettle
i like stuff to just die not dance
round coyote
Is there a BB electric staff build? Or nah
strong gulch
Is there a BB electric staff build? Or nah
2nd pin
vestal trench
its so BAD tho
i'm not its biggest fan either but i wanted to make a build to see for myself
young cliff
Could do something like this with a flex point for BCoB or TTS. If you're in hig...
i do have a build like this, but i wanted to lean even MORE into the BB with using the EP keystone, i know that is not a great idea optimization wise but wanted to try test how much it can be brought to a powerful state (so far mixing the warp slash bleed with an activation for the Kinetic resonance FEELS that can work, but would have to run it more)
vestal trench
especially since theres people who say EP smite isnt bad
tulip kettle
i'm not its biggest fan either but i wanted to make a build to see for myself
did this 3 days ago
was last man alive and everyone had to watch me EP smite a rager pack 3 times
is not good
strong gulch
i do have a build like this, but i wanted to lean even MORE into the BB with usi...
Then it sound like you know that build that you want to play
jovial juniper
Is Smite good in damnation and higher? I've heard some episodes get annoyed by i...
Not so good in havoc
jovial juniper
im assuming the loop is to kill horde, get EP stack, use smite on a rager pack o...
Smite hordes as well
EP smite kills it in 2 seconds
It's pretty good
vestal trench
auric below im guessing?
young cliff
Then it sound like you know that build that you want to play
kinda, yeah. want to see how much it can be brought to a position that i can say i could use it seriously, but i do know the limitations
TY for your help btw
vestal trench
sooo basically use EK on the chonkier elites then smite the rest as long as i have an EP stack
jovial juniper
Yeah sounds about right
sinful perch
Not so good in havoc
That's fine tbh, I don't really play above damnation maybe Auric
dull scroll
it's ironic really, technically smite should get better the more the enemies
jovial juniper
vestal trench
infernus dumdum
vestal trench
lmfao the name
marsh ore
infernus dumdum
alr ty
vestal trench
i tried vic recon las on my gunker the other day and it does not feel good as mk xii
despite a lot of people advocating for vic
strong gulch
i tried vic recon las on my gunker the other day and it does not feel good as mk...
recently?
Used to be the the vlc but then the name were changed and now it's the 12 (at least for psyker because of faster rate of fire = more crits which feed mettle and EE).
vestal trench
eye
so theres people who say vic but mean blue mark
thanks FS thats not confusing at all
thorn cedar
thats all perfectly clear (<-- didnt retain any of that)
strong gulch
"to avoid confusion"
jovial juniper
thats all perfectly clear (<-- didnt retain any of that)
jovial juniper
vestal trench
"Let's make them gaslight each other."
fatshark confirmed psyker mains (gaslighting enthusiasts)
the maniacs trying to run LMFAO
dull scroll
if just one of those turns red you screwed
dull scroll
im still gonna run it on havoc with my friends to fw them
here's what can do to really fw them, "accidentally" turn smite off once they are inside a horde thinking it's safe 😏
proper osprey
Is there a BB electric staff build? Or nah
Primary fire surge staff
gray juniper
@dull scroll and thanks for help yesterday. I wasn’t being grumpy leaving. The frames from that game were so bad I got nauseous and had to lay down
gray juniper
It’s not too bad
gray juniper
One thing I’m noticing lately that makes a big difference tho
proper osprey
gray juniper
There’s three common kinds of team movement: methodical, unorganized rush and organized rush
gray juniper
You have to move and fight according to how everyone else is doing things and it changes your approach
sullen rapids
thanks FS thats not confusing at all
see but the colors stayed the same
gray juniper
If it’s unorganized rush like most lower levels up to auric you need to pay attention to your own problems first and let them handle theirs
gray juniper
https://tenor.com/view/gitgud-thepruld-git-gud-dark-gif-8126281
Turbo toxic gif. I’m howling
sullen rapids
blue is fast tan is ass
round coyote
I’m assuming the normal force swords have better mobility than fgs? Or same
dull scroll
better
round coyote
Okay bet
I just find my dodges are lacking on the fgs but I also haven’t upgraded it much lol
median furnace
Finally got it, I left the smite penance till last cause I didn't want to be that guy and be spamming smite at low levels, tried to use it sparingly and correctly.
Only Psyker penance left to do is Malleus Monstronum.
west stream
just played gunker mortis trials
that crits dont consume ammo bit + scryers gaze is too funny
50 bullets out of 5 shooter revolver, glorious
round coyote
Also what curios y’all run
jovial juniper
At least 200 hp
201
So you can survive 2 bursters
And with 1 sniper resist
You can survive 2 shots
Then everything past that is on toughness
strong gulch
In aurics there's a BP you can hit with 201 HP and x1 sniper resist; this let's you tank a sniper and multiple bursters.
There's also putting gunner resist on all ur curios. The better your positioning, the less value it has. Might give you just a little more time in havocs to find cover.
But there's stuff like hp, toughness, and CDR that are always helpful.
So pick your own adventure.
round coyote
Okay, word. Thanks 🙂
vestal trench
psyker gaming
gray juniper
that crits dont consume ammo bit + scryers gaze is too funny
The people in the game I used it on were sick of the lasgun. They thought I was just burning ammo because I never stopped shooting and when round 9 came they didn’t want to share the ammo crate 😆
sullen rapids
is it possible to have a mostly-assail build?
or like
if i go ws + both assail perks + ep (higher chance on horde) thats probably enough to spam it on most stuff that isnt carapace or boss, all the way up to havoc or auric mael, right?
strong gulch
You can do what whatever even in maels.
west stream
if you want to maximize it empowered would be way to go I imagine
sullen rapids
this is what i've cooked but idk where to put the last point
strong gulch
Also go with the garunteed charged on elite
sullen rapids
was probably gonna run plasma staff for carapace damage and either knife or ds4 as melee
sullen rapids
Also go with the garunteed charged on elite
is it that much better?
strong gulch
ye
west stream
if I am running dd I am going to be trying to use mele and weapons since they run off crit just as much
but ye, I'd argue for getting the 10 second perils immunity
while at it
sullen rapids
feels like a good majority of the elite kills get stolen by dogs since every game is 3x cop + whatever im queueing as
strong gulch
unless you're in a difficulty that hardly ever sees an elite or a special then just spamming base assail is all you need
Why BCoB?
sullen rapids
ok good point actually
strong gulch
Remove ER
put both into assail mods
no PC hurts but if you can't get elite kills then I get it
strong gulch
swapping bubble to shriek
strong gulch
CDR will get you more shriek spam
strong gulch
Pysk's aura would make it a shriek build.
You still pump out a ton of assails and yell fire
I thought you were taking bio lodestone because you weren't getting elite kills
marsh ore
what is this best gun for a gunker build
strong gulch
Vraks 5 and recon are the best>
Vraks 5 is no question the best if you are looking to gun down monsters.
jovial juniper
If you have the mastery
marsh ore
alr ty
strong gulch
other really good options for gunker tho
marsh ore
i might just use bolt pistol ngl
marsh ore
other really good options for gunker tho
what other options are there
strong gulch
vraks 5 IAG
recon lasgun (fasted fire rate one aka 12; but can choose the one you liek most)
laspistol 2
revolver (agripinaa better with SG)
bistol
Since the buff, I hear the shredder is good. Not as busted as the vraks 5 but strong
marsh ore
alr ty
strong gulch
most will choose the recon because it's easier to aim, has better ammo economy, and DoTs
gray juniper
Is vraks the hip shooter or single shot strong one?
hushed pike
Gotta be honest man
melee psyker
might be one of the most fun melee classes in the game
Melee crit psyker with sciers gaze and blaze force greatsword with Blazing spirit and shred blessing
potent echo
tulip kettle
blazing spirit on swords be kinda doo doo
hushed pike
Never seen what the perks?
jovial juniper
Not this one, it feels great lol
hushed pike
Wildfire is infinite spreading soulblaze
Perilous combustion is 3 stacks on all enemies around a special you kill.
jovial juniper
🗣️
tulip kettle
idk man
hushed pike
Perilous combustion been in the game since the tech trees were added
tulip kettle
i mean yeah, i could take unstable and get 20% strength
hushed pike
Nah man
tulip kettle
but this 4 stacks of wildfire only when i crit?
hushed pike
combine that with the infinite spreading soulblaze
tulip kettle
thats crazy
hushed pike
Oh yeah you can jump into auric or havoc and 2 shot crushers
hushed pike
No, the soulblaze helps more with trashclear I feel
tulip kettle
in a 5 mile radiues?
from blazing spirit?
on a sword?
idk man youve not sold me on taking it over 20% strength yet
hushed pike
Blazing Spirit generates 4 stacks of soulblaze per crit, psyker can get a LOT of crit moreso than zealot even I think
hushed pike
Wildfire infinitely spreads the stacks with no limitations other than the enemies it spread to can't get more stacks than what the dying enemy had
Chain reaction
tulip kettle
and so, when you do that
do the enmies not just die anyway?
and if they are elites, arent you proccing PC ?
sorry i dont know what i said there
hushed pike
Well I mean in high level havocs there is so much god damn shit that the infinitely spreading soulblaze chips so much shit down
tulip kettle
ah i see
verbal thistle
Some people dislike Wildfire, but it is good and is a damage increase. Wildfire works by spreading up to 4 stacks of soulblaze on a target that dies, with each stack being distributed evenly (so a dying target with 3 stacks spreads 3 stacks, 1 stack to each nearby enemy if there are 3 of them with 0 stacks, but will spread 4 stacks if the dying target has 4 stacks, 2 to one of the 3 nearby enemies). Wildfire will spread stacks to a target as long as the target has less than 4 stacks. Wildfire is incredibly useful because it can spread beyond your Inferno staff's range, meaning when an enemy enters Inferno's range you already have 4 stacks applied to them when in tense, Auric Damnation/Havoc 25+ situations due to enemy density being stupidly high. That is 1/4th of Inferno's max stacks, which is significant and really helps Inferno stack all that quicker and kill quicker, helping Wildfire spread more. On top of that, Wildfire helps eliminate chaff (4 stacks doesn't kill alone but can kill with Blaze Away and other buffs) and manage your sides/back without you doing anything. You won't be killing hordes with Wildfire, but when you turn around to face a threat you'll find enemies nice and pre-toasted. It also helps you gain more Warp Siphon stacks through In Fire Reborn, and get the first stack of Soulblaze so that your Blaze Away blessing always applies even if other Soulblaze Psykers are around. I wholeheartedly support Wildfire on an Inferno build in the game's current state (and it's still very good on a lot of other staff builds with Creeping Flames too).
hushed pike
And yeah Combustion procs off of all specials and gives everything around the dying special more soulblaze
tulip kettle
yes wildfire is pretty cool ive heard
so is perilous combustion from what i have quickly just read 🤓
im questioning if blazing spirit is doing anything at all in this scenario over a flat 20% str increase
hushed pike
Perilious combustion is just a decent talent if you can fit it, and it's super early in the psyker tree.
Early as in it's literally the 2nd talent a psyker can take
verbal thistle
blazing is probably worst blessing on force swords
tulip kettle
no dude hear this guy out
he says its good with something called perilous combustion
ive never heard of it, but it must be pretty good
hushed pike
blazing is probably worst blessing on force swords
Idk man I'm using it in havocs and it's great.
The worst blessing is probably deflector and as a deflector enjoyer wasting one of your blessing slots on blocking a few ranged attacks isn't worth it.
Unless you spec into peril blocking then it's slightly worth it.
teal fog
The worst blessing is probably deflector and as a deflector enjoyer wasting one ...
imagine playing psyker
play a real man's class
hushed pike
"spec into peril blocking"
Well yeah
tulip kettle
is there like, some talent where you can block for peril?
hushed pike
peril blocking is in the last far right keystone path
tulip kettle
i mean sounds like you would almost always take that.
hushed pike
dull scroll
I was going to just let it slide on the blazing but you gotta go trash deflector, this is just comical
be real, what havoc lvl are you playing this melee psyker on
hushed pike
i mean sounds like you would almost always take that.
You can easily just lock yourself out of using any warp abilities if you use it so it can be a bit eh
hushed pike
be real, what havoc lvl are you playing this melee psyker on
31 so far, still going up.
tulip kettle
hushed pike
Uh huh I'm aware.
tulip kettle
youre talking to people with 1000's of hours of experience on psyker who do stuff like create content around the game, make mods, duo or solo havoc 40's....
dull scroll
there's something called duplicated value loss in this game
theoretically, if you have a very fast attacking single target weapon that does little damage, this would be the weapon that can get the most value out of blazing
hushed pike
Okay and I also have a lot of time in the game? Nor did I say that melee psyker was the best build in the game
I simply said it was incredibly fun
dull scroll
FGS on the other hand, is the polar opposite of said theoritical weapon
hushed pike
But go off I guess.
tulip kettle
and thats fine. we are trying to get you to think about this blessing
and why it is bad
you dont seem to want to hear it or pick up on that but thats fine
it FEELS cool to you
but its not doing anything
and thats fine
you can run stuff thats bad because it feels cool
hushed pike
It's doing a lot actually I mean I'm literally watching stuff melt away infront of me but again
go off
tulip kettle
but its not good
hushed pike
Again who said it was good
dull scroll
the sword can straight up kill swath of horde and wipe entire waves with its special, more blazing clear adds very little value on top of that
hushed pike
Do you have voices in your head saying that blazing was good
tulip kettle
okay, or you could try using some mods to measure this
tulip kettle
and see that its not the blazing from your sword doing it
hushed pike
Or the health bar plugins
Holy fuck bro I've never experienced such a joyless individual such as yourself.
This blessing and combo is fun
Erm actually that shit fucking sucks
tulip kettle
okay thats fine
dull scroll
say, if you just said blazing is fun for you and deflector isn't fun for you..etc. nobody would bat an eye, you straight up stated objective value judgement on them, using "best" and "worst"
hushed pike
If that's fine then why do you keep trying to prove a motherfucking point.
hushed pike
I said I felt deflector wasn't the best unless you build into it.
dull scroll
what do you even mean "built into it", as in taking KD? there is no meta build not taking KD in H40s
dull scroll
not taking KD is literal suicidal
hushed pike
KD, a stam curio or two if you don't take KD, stuff to make it better.
tulip kettle
why would you take one of the best talents across every class in the game unless you specifically built around it
hushed pike
I literally do not run KD and it's fine so idk man.
tulip kettle
yeah you also dont rate deflector