psyker-class

[deft stump]

Ping.

[ripe obsidian]

Which maul+shield do you use again? 6 or 9?

[plucky flax]

I'm using the 6 now.

Karien would say anything but "I forgot" Xd

[strong gulch]

[celest plaza]

Is there a mod that makes it so you cant brain burst poxwalkers?

[deft stump]

That's probably not the two horizontal, down up one.

[dull scroll]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/468

[celest plaza]

ty

[plucky flax]

I don't know what this means.

[deft stump]

The light combo.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

One mark is 2 horizontal 2 vertical as L1L2L3L4

[plucky flax]

You can be normal and say if it's mk6 or not.

[deft stump]

Is why I joke about push bonk bonk.

[ripe obsidian]

MK6 is Vertical, Horizontal, poke, poke

[deft stump]

I don't remember.

[plucky flax]

The deeps on h40 crusher
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1394292213759869048/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.07.14_-_13.18.21.03.mp4?ex=68784190&is=6876f010&hm=644f3745f782d1684b452e5a21efee85d5bb9ac9c32a6453df8a31902dae38d8&

[deft stump]

So the other one.

[buoyant maple]

I might eventually add psyker stuff to mine

It covers so much stuff at this point it may as well go big

[deft stump]

Go big or go home now?

[plucky flax]

Opportunist + rending node stronk against crusher.

[sturdy reef]

if you're up to it, more power to you

Im liking shield maul more and more

and it'll be good to practice with the inevitable nerf to the single maul

[strong gulch]

I know there's 2 or 3 WIP psyker guides.

None of them are mine.

I am not writing one.

[plucky flax]

Don't ever read unsanctioned guide.

You become corrupted by the warp.

[strong gulch]

The grims we keep finding

[deft stump]

Can just ask him to carry, easier for sanity.

[plucky flax]

He said he hates noobs (like me). Said his back is broken.

[strong gulch]

With the devil's claw changes, is one the clear choice now or are they all pretty comparable now. Iirc, the 1 was the worst right? Idk if that's still true

[sturdy reef]

it also got buffed the most

[dull scroll]

btw, do you guys remember does crit double or triples warpfire stacks with purge?

[deft stump]

I see, you do hate me. I should have known actually...

[strong gulch]

crit give x2 SB stacks instead of 1

[dull scroll]

so it's x2, not x3

[strong gulch]

ye

[dull scroll]

okay

[sturdy reef]

flame staff cap is 14 irrc, with crits its 16

[plucky flax]

What im not unsanctioned

I think unsanctioned is from West Germany

[sturdy reef]

always German smh

[deft stump]

We both know it's not @marble crater

[ripe obsidian]

15

15, or 16 if you crit on the 15th stack application

[sturdy reef]

ah ok

[ripe obsidian]

Can't maintain the 16, tho, without PC or Shriek

[analog solstice]

Can someone post their smite talent build, wanna try it out

[plucky flax]

It is

[deft stump]

[analog solstice]

Hmm, was thinking maybe running shield w smite or is that trash?

[jovial juniper]

Trash

I mean

You can run

It's just not optimal

[analog solstice]

Aight

Also, just wondering why the 2 pts for kinetic deflection, never really had an issue with blocking on my other builds

[plucky flax]

Thats because youre pro

Only noobs need kd

[analog solstice]

Aight, ive made a few alterations (I heard smite cannot crit so i removed some of the crit based talents too)

Maybe something like this

[plucky flax]

Based and real

[ripe obsidian]

@plucky flax the horde combo feels weird when transitioning from push on the mk6.

I know it's push > light > heavy, but it feels weird

[plucky flax]

Do heavy - push attack - light - heavy then repeat from the push attack

So you open with a heavy shield bash for extra damage right away

Or just heavy block cancel xd

Or just push attack spam and wait for dog to help horde clear xxd

[potent echo]

I do reaction combos on the 6

Too difficult to tell if you will get the draw or slide combos

So I just do the heavy whenever I see the upwards slice to the left

[ripe obsidian]

It's the PA > light that keeps catching me up

I hold the PA too long and make it a heavy

[plucky flax]

Push attack - light is pretty safe ye

Or just play shock maul

Shield is too hard

[ripe obsidian]

Tried it on an H25 just to practice. Got the fabled 5 deaths in 20 minutes Psyker. To paraphrase them, the class is garbage and this is the average experience.

[strong gulch]

Smite can't crit but your other weapons can.

[ripe obsidian]

I am too bad for shield. D:

[strong gulch]

I went outside.

[ripe obsidian]

Didst thou touch grass?

[deft stump]

Gatos?

[strong gulch]

I pulled a dying aloe out of a pot. Don't worry. I did it quietly because it's 3 am here.

[plucky flax]

Tru

[strong gulch]

no 😭

less cute and fuzzy

[deft stump]

Aww...

[hearty wolf]

😭

Darktide must be played today

Tomorrow is reset tho right

[ripe obsidian]

Sondag

At like 8pm for me, so probably like 2am Monday for you

[strong gulch]

sondag?

[ripe obsidian]

Sunday

[strong gulch]

gotcha

[hearty wolf]

The havoc reset is Sunday?

Wut

I swear it was mid week

Anyway take the day off work

We have gaming to do

I think I'll take Monday off

[strong gulch]

My partner will be out of town, so I will have more gaming time

[deft stump]

You have 4 days...

[hearty wolf]

I should be home and ready to play in approximately 7-9 hours

[quartz barn]

Old havoc reset was thursday ye

[plucky flax]

Reset deez

[ripe obsidian]

I will be waking up for work in approximately 7.5 hours

[marble crater]

I am from West Germany

[plucky flax]

Bavaria

[deft stump]

Yes, but you play controller. Last I know... UnsanctionedPsyker is a PC gamer. We both know is @plucky flax

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Maybe I play on PC with controller

[hearty wolf]

I see 😭

[deft stump]

But then you get controller button prompts. .-.

[marble crater]

I hear UnsanctionedPsyker uses a mod to show PC prompts instead

[potent echo]

West Germany is Bavaria?

[marble crater]

Bavaria was part of West Germany when we were divided, so I guess very technically they were. They are very much southern Germany though and a lot of Germans also just pretend that Bavaria is not really a part of Germany as a joke

[deft stump]

But even then, mods. last I checked, you play on Xbox...

[marble crater]

I wonder if my new PC is good enough to play on PC, probably not and I don't want to start a new account

[strong gulch]

cheat mods

[potent echo]

You can make the game look worse on PC than on console

Those old arco clips were something

[buoyant maple]

Someone should make pixelated retro style reshade for DT

[strong gulch]

I was just thinking of those. lmao

[potent echo]

Plague ogryn potato

[strong gulch]

yes

[deft stump]

I mean, isn't gamepass acct shared?

[marble crater]

No idea if it is, when my GPU gets here I will give it a try at least

[strong gulch]

Arco gaming laptop

[buoyant maple]

It migrates with Microsoft store

Which a grand total of 5.5 people on the planet uses for downloading things

[marble crater]

Would make that 6.5 as all my games are for Xbox and some of them at least are Play Anywhere titles

[potent echo]

Oh course it's some entry level office laptop

From 2010

[marble crater]

No slander, my new PC is an old office PC, the performance to price ratio is unmatched (it was free, including monitor)

[potent echo]

I added year for clarification

Infinite value

[strong gulch]

This isn't slander.

[marble crater]

Everything I don't like is slander

[buoyant maple]

Is it from one of those AI data labs

[novel yoke]

what do yall run on your curios, other than cdr

[kind glade]

Toughness

[marble crater]

No, from a regular office

[kind glade]

Gunner

[potent echo]

I would take some free office chairs from said (collapsed) AI data labs

[buoyant maple]

Integrated graphics?

[kind glade]

Stamina regen or sprint

[novel yoke]

aight thanks bros

[kind glade]

Pick ur poison

[potent echo]

Neither

[buoyant maple]

Sprint not needed for psyker

[potent echo]

Honestly

[kind glade]

Is comf tho

[novel yoke]

I wouldve used one stamina regen

[marble crater]

Yeah, that's why I bought a GPU, nothing fancy, just enough to play most older games, mostly strategy as they suck to play on console

[deft stump]

Is more, Sut plays on gamepass, so I was wondering if he technically could transfer to PC without needing a new acct.

[kind glade]

I got places to be

[potent echo]

Psyker has crab dodging

That's faster

And takes no stamina

[novel yoke]

??

crab?

[potent echo]

Turn side waya

[kind glade]

Crabwalk annoying

[potent echo]

Spam dodge 4 times

[kind glade]

W+shift not

[strong gulch]

CDR, health, and toughness are the usual picks for if you want sub nodes to not be situational

[potent echo]

Potato potato

[kind glade]

(It is better i wont contest)

[potent echo]

Horde can't even touch you if you just crab walk

Remember infinite crab forceswords

[strong gulch]

yes 😭

[stable silo]

whats the meta now a days

i assumbe bubble and purg staff ?

[novel yoke]

I think yeah

either that or trauma

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-arrow-marvel-guardiansofthegalaxy2-ravagers-gif-14617100

[potent echo]

Meta melee psyker until everything is so dense that infinite cleave things win 🤷‍♂️

[stable silo]

i wish melee only psyker was a thing

i tried the void knight build but im like why not just play zealot

[potent echo]

Assail is a drug

I haven't found a substitute

[marble crater]

Because zealots are stinky

[potent echo]

Also EE and recons

Extremely comfy

[plucky flax]

Because fgs does more damage than relic blade.

[stable silo]

i dunno man u turn that thing on hit em with a charge att speed increase and just slaughter everything in front of you

[potent echo]

Their weapon mechanic is also busywork and not neuron activation

[ornate hamlet]

Zealot doesn't have soulblaze, peril and bubble, to start

One might ask why play book zealot instead of VoC vet, but both are more than just that

[kind glade]

Yeah vet has

[ornate hamlet]

Try not to look at things as "worse [class]" because then you end up judging things on the merits of others

[kind glade]

And also voc

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-seal-gif-8993121496866626214

[deft stump]

LETS GO GAMBLING 'NADES.

[stable silo]

i dont play book zealot i play mighty legs zealot

[kind glade]

Me when i win 3 in a row and ogryn clowns them with one box

[stable silo]

havent tried havoc yet only mealstrom

[ornate hamlet]

"Twinned blast RNG, give me 3 krak doubles in a row and my life is yours!"

[potent echo]

Can we ever go back to the krak veteran days

[strong gulch]

For havoc yeah; bubble + purg / inferno. Trauma / VB too but not on red modifier.

For aurics shriek is meta for staves.

[potent echo]

Where 4 vets throw krak and the boss disappears

[ornate hamlet]

Me popping an ammo crate knowing full well I'm about to turn it into 12 krak grenades

[buoyant maple]

Twinned blast krak is cursed

[deft stump]

I feel like tossing you my loadout 3.

[stable silo]

thats it im gonna go ruin some games in maelstrom as warrior psyker

[novel yoke]

is this penance literally just "use brain burst once against a boss"?

[rigid moss]

I think it's 50% no?

[novel yoke]

ooh I get it now

I thought it was just do 50 damage lmfao

[rigid moss]

It's pretty easy to do with a few friends. Get a brain burst built, have a few friends block and do nothing, kill whatevers there.

[glacial vapor]

Yeah, its missing the %

[rigid moss]

shouldn't take more than a single attempt, really

[novel yoke]

yeah makes sense

[stable silo]

warp resist is dump stat on GFS right ?

[azure karma]

You mean DS

[strong gulch]

yes

WR is the dump on all force weapons except VS (which is blast radius)

[azure karma]

Duel better, stab

[strong gulch]

FGS is an all-rounder.

[stable silo]

is this the dream one ?

[marble crater]

I want them to buff blast radius on voidstrike, just so we can say warp resistance is dump stat on all force weapons

[strong gulch]

Ye. Get everything (non-dumps) to 80 then stop.

[stable silo]

so dueling sword is the meta melee for psyker ?

[marble crater]

One of them

[stable silo]

meta with salt *

[strong gulch]

they just removed the stat visually from the too tip

FGS, DS, deimos, obscurus are the meta options that stand out

[stable silo]

woah obscurus is a meta weapon now? did they buff it, i have been gone long

you didnt say illis

[strong gulch]

yeah I didn't

[novel yoke]

that surprised me too

[strong gulch]

obscurus was buffed and had a moveset change

[novel yoke]

obscurus? fr??

[stable silo]

oh reallyu

interesting maybe il haeve to make one

[buoyant maple]

Yea super strong

Psyker op

[novel yoke]

hol on ima go check it out

[potent echo]

Super strong

[strong gulch]

HLL for single and LH for horde. IDK if that's the full combo for horde.

[stable silo]

im a smooth brain so i spam lights on every weapon

i just heavy for style every now and then

[potent echo]

I think they changed the combo at one point... Not that I will ever use it again

[novel yoke]

same, force great swords scratch that itch for me

yeah I see what you mean, the moveset is different

[stable silo]

is it light spam superiority like illis was ?

[novel yoke]

Im struggling to alternate light and heavy though, I keep doing LHH instead of LH

[potent echo]

If it's still as I remember, just do LHL

[strong gulch]

Illisi needs a buff. Its whole thing is horde clear and there are multiple options that do that job better / faster. I think Deadvoid said that lacerate knife clears a horde faster than illisi.

That being said, I do rec illisi for EK because illisi fills the gap of being a a horde management weapon, has not terrible mobility, easily slots in deflector, and can repeatedly stroke the special for quick peril gen without qq/ swap cancel.

[potent echo]

The stab is about the same time it takes to do like LH (block)

[novel yoke]

its a little slower than illisi, but I think it has more cleave, plus it does better single target

[potent echo]

Might as well get the stab out there

[stable silo]

this okay build for FGS ?

[novel yoke]

it looks fine to me

[potent echo]

Sure

I rather get toughness on warp kill

It's on demand with assail or FGS

[stable silo]

ohshit i dont even know what the perks are for this thing

[potent echo]

Also perfect timing is free damage

[unborn chasm]

Is there actually a damage difference between inferno staff mouse 1 and mouse 2?

[novel yoke]

for fgs, do only the special attacks count as warp or does regular attacks do too?

[potent echo]

RMB builds up stacks faster

[unborn chasm]

Is spamming mouse 1 good enough or rather spam mouse 2 attack

[potent echo]

But doesn't stagger

[stable silo]

i can give up perilious combust for soulstealer

[unborn chasm]

Oh okay good to know

[potent echo]

Never spam RMB

[stable silo]

but i dont know what else to give up for perfect timing

[strong gulch]

It's mostly fine. Soulstealer and perfect timing are good because assail and FGS special kills. Depending on your ranged, you can get a lot of EE up time. Drop BM.

[potent echo]

Charge it properly

[rigid moss]

use mouse1 on moving, use mouse2 charged on clearing

[unborn chasm]

Oh yeah i just meant using it over and over again bit charging it fully

[rigid moss]

short charge can be fine for initial stagger, but you want to fully charge if you have the space

[stable silo]

oh should i take one with the warp for toughness dmg reduction ?

[potent echo]

I've seen psykers hold RMB and spam lmb it's the worst thing I've ever seen

[summer prairie]

I do that

[potent echo]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-puke-puke-vomit-kitty-vomit-cat-vomit-gif-10902081098279086080

[wraith sphinx]

hosting a havoc 18 mission if anyone wants to join.

[strong gulch]

It doesn't. It's slower.

[summer prairie]

it's not

[strong gulch]

sure

[potent echo]

Are we counting like QQ swap or smth

There's no way lmb spam is faster

[strong gulch]

Oh if you are foing qq cancel then yeah that's faster

[stable silo]

better ?

[summer prairie]

do we know which mouse button is lmb and which is rmb

[unborn chasm]

Im starting to practice with the BB, purg, bubble and Warp siphon meta build for havoc but still feel somewhat fragile, is there any tips for that?

[wraith sphinx]

you're offline for me

[rigid moss]

I mean you are fragile as a psyker, that's part of the deal.

Positioning is your friend

[strong gulch]

loading

[unborn chasm]

Ik, just feel like that more than usual, but then again i been constantly playing higher and higher havocs

Compared to my last build

So ig thats part of it too

[stable silo]

wahts the build for havoc ?

[strong gulch]

i'm in

[unborn chasm]

Its pinned here

Second pin

And instead of shriek its bubble

[wraith sphinx]

sent you an invite

[stable silo]

thanks

[strong gulch]

try again it failed??

[unborn chasm]

The one for purg staff

[stable silo]

is it the inferno/purge build ?

ok

[wraith sphinx]

ther ewe go

[unborn chasm]

Ye

Im trying to get used to it

Been using smite with bubble mostly which actually worked suprisingly well for me

But obv cant really kill anything

[stable silo]

holy crap they made passive BB only proc on elites and stuff now? jesus no more random procs on poxwalkers

[rigid moss]

Sure. Playing Psyker also gets exponentially easier the more attentive your mates are because to a degree you depend on them giving you a bit of space.

But outside of that, honestly, Inferno has a ton of control built in. The stagger of RMB is quite insane and mostly what offers you control over the battlefield (together with your bubble positioning).

Essentially you need to know where to put your bubbles and you need to get the hang of short charging / long charging your Inferno staff for control.

That's like 90% of your survivability budget (together with baseline positioning of yourself).

The rhythm of charging - firing - quelling is something you'll just get used to.

You also want to consistently be at high peril for all your perks to trigger, which offers you a lot of toughness regeneration through all means

[stable silo]

interesting the build doesnt take soulstealer and wouldnt essence harvest be good for havoc ?

[unborn chasm]

Wait you mean LMB stagger right? Someone said RMB doesnt stagger

[unborn chasm]

Usually i only quell down to like 50% to keep the peril around for the bonuses

Or should you really constantly be edging between 80 and 100 percent?

[rigid moss]

Hm. I might be confused about the definition of "stagger" here.

[rigid moss]

Eh, you don't want to constantly blow yourself up, but I rarely go below 50% peril when venting

dont forget however that venting is also a source of toughness regeneration

[potent echo]

RMB does some stagger vs commons

Lmb is the one that bullies maulers and below

[rigid moss]

ty for clearing that up

[potent echo]

RMB stagger isn't very reliable though, although what might be happening is also suppression

And purg suppression is amazing

[gray juniper]

Nah with low tech induced lag, the regular push is what i think I’ll use from now on to switch to staff and switch back

[rigid moss]

What I'm trying to say is: between soulblaze and inferno fire and the constant killing of both, you can hold back a lot of enemies very reliably.

Which results in a ton of control about what is happening around you (as long as "what is happening" is not "12 crushers inside the group")

[potent echo]

Ideally you shouldn't need to push at all, but it depends on how bad the situation is

[gray juniper]

Stuff is crawling all over you in havoc so I needed an answer for that without taking chip damage being an inevitability

[unborn chasm]

Yeah same, felt like thats a good middle ground, otherwise its hard to cast more than 1 fully charged RMB before blowing up lol

[rigid moss]

exactly

[potent echo]

I use the peril mod so I always get accurate values

[rigid moss]

So typically, in a controlled situation, you charge up, fire, vent down to 50-60, recharge up, fire again.

[potent echo]

Then I just remember a number I can always safely full charge under and stay there

[gray juniper]

Yea like everything is under control until > two bosses show up

[rigid moss]

thats normal though

thats just the game :D

[gray juniper]

And you have to quell

[stable silo]

hey for the purge build do you just not take soulstealer in it

[potent echo]

Soulstealer good

[unborn chasm]

Ah okay thx, good to know i already been kinda doing what im supposed to haha

[rigid moss]

I don't in my current build but the pin says that apparently mettle isn't doing enough work? Which is the opposite of what https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db644f3-8fd7-4786-9af0-cc63ebf840b2/tanners-purge-staff-meta-build says as far as I remember.

[gray juniper]

Inferno really is the superior staff unless the map is the hourglass and you’re getting dogged by long range

[potent echo]

Mettle has changed so many times

Bug fixed and then unbug fixed

[rigid moss]

heh, okay

So whats the current verdict then? Mettle or no mettle?

[potent echo]

I think it works now 🤷‍♂️

[gray juniper]

No mettle is working now i thought

[potent echo]

But also like not really

But also yes

[gray juniper]

Either way I’m keeping it for the day it is fixed. I love luv mettle

[rigid moss]

I mean I'm doing fine with mettle so eh

[unborn chasm]

Yeah the build feels great and recharges a bunch of toughness suoer quick aslong as you keep attacking with purg

Didnt expect that when i first saw some of the skills that the build loses out on

[gray juniper]

What are you using this on?

[unborn chasm]

Havoc

[potent echo]

With EE you rarely get shot anyway (in hordes)

[rigid moss]

EE so good

[gray juniper]

It does get strained the higher you go/certain modifiers but yea it’s better than other staffs

[potent echo]

If it's just shooter gallery good luck

[unborn chasm]

It always trigger i heard, aslong as you got nexus and crit chance on staff, is that true?

Then just keep attacking

[potent echo]

It's almost 100% uptime

[gray juniper]

Broham, I’m either poofing as I slide run away or blocking as I slide run away

[unborn chasm]

Is crit chance on the staff necessary for that or rather use something else?

[potent echo]

Havoc shooters guh

I take flak maniac but flak crit is more popular

[rigid moss]

I use flak crit

[potent echo]

With purg BB you rarely can reach flamers through a horde

[unborn chasm]

Ye same

And then nexus and blaze away

[rigid moss]

yu

[potent echo]

Or even mutants sometimes

[rigid moss]

thats the standard inferno staff

[unborn chasm]

I see

[rigid moss]

psyker has too many useful talents really

thats my main gripe

[gray juniper]

Bro stop I’m trying to make it to havoc 40 someday

[rigid moss]

just dont take empyric resolve

:D

[gray juniper]

Yea it’s not for me

[rigid moss]

the whole build revolves around toughness regeneration

limiting that is not a good idea

[unborn chasm]

Honestly impressed how much killing the purg staff can do when you actually got the right build and all

[unborn chasm]

Fr wish i had like atleast 3 more skill points lol

[rigid moss]

I currently don't take wildfire, I'd really like to

[gray juniper]

So once you get up to fading light 2, what’s the major difference that makes it more difficult? Is it monotonous or is there more worse modifiers to havoc +30?

[wraith sphinx]

@strong gulch I can play one more

[gray juniper]

I’ve played right on the cusp at 29 and idk how I’d do above that

[unborn chasm]

What you using instead?

[strong gulch]

I think that's it for me. I need to go to bed. 🫡

gg

[wraith sphinx]

gg 🫡

[strong gulch]

It was fun. I can feel my brains mushing.

[wraith sphinx]

glad you had fun 😄

havoc 15-20 is v fun for me

[strong gulch]

Is a good time.

Not super sweaty but get the havoc modifiers

[potent echo]

Idk but havoc feels more deliberate than auric maels

Maybe the people playing are more serious or smth

[wraith sphinx]

well yeah havoc punishes you for rushing ahead

[strong gulch]

Lower havoc was chill

[potent echo]

And also there's almost no ambients

[potent echo]

Hexbound daemonhost

[rigid moss]

Ah right. No image pasting perms I guess

[strong gulch]

not yet

[rigid moss]

I tried for a minute or two to post my build without being able to do so and was surprised. Guess I need to talk more

[strong gulch]

keep chatting and you'll get the red role

[rigid moss]

yeah I figured

[strong gulch]

can try the games lantern web site. save a build and post the link.

it's an official site

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[rigid moss]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9f674585-517c-4d85-9a19-7a71f06846af

yeah I was on it already

I think mostly its that I like Battle Meditation, that I use mettle and that I use both EE and OwtW

The rest isnt particularly outstanding in any way

[gray juniper]

You know the stairs in magistrati past the fortress wall before it becomes the second half of the level, I pushed 40 meters ahead to kill a gunner and got swamped by +30 elites & specialist

[rigid moss]

If you take away mettle and PT, you can use two of soulstealer, wildfire and essence harvest, for instance

or you probably need soulstealer and then one of the other two

and then you can take away battle meditation and take the other if you wish

thats about that

I don't think much else is controversial here

[potent echo]

That area is always sus

There just mad elites chilling in there

Usually either you blitz the gate or you chill all the way back near the medicare around the bend to lure the shooters closer

[gray juniper]

I didn’t know and didn’t expect it. Suddenly a tidal wave

The rest of the guys were fighting a BoN so I was like hey let me take this gunner out harrasing them. Lol nope

[wraith sphinx]

lol I played the next mission and the randoms got owned by the karnak twins on hab dreyko, nothing new under the sun

[unborn chasm]

Is wildfire really that good, i heard very mixed opinions about it, some even saying its not working how its supposed to

[rigid moss]

I mean more Soulblaze = more good. It's more damage and it raises the chance of getting stacks via In Fire Reborn.

So it never hurts to have more of it.

The question is moreso about tradeoffs than about "is it good".

Like, I like my battle meditation, as said, but is it "worth it"? More than Wildfire or Essence Harvest? Eh. Maybe? Does different things.

[unborn chasm]

I see, guess it leaves some wiggle room for personal preferences then

[rigid moss]

Most builds do, really. There's like 26-27 "mandatory" points you definitely want to have and/or need for the basic build to work.

And then you have stuff like "do I take mettle + PT or do I take Soulstealer?"

[unborn chasm]

Buff icons seem to be bugged still for me, i think sometimes warp stacks dont show up for me

[rigid moss]

And then there's a few "free" points

where you can choose between a few picks

[nocturne dust]

Oh hey, I have a copypasta about this

[rigid moss]

I wouldn't get into an argument over battle meditation for instance. If someone said its not worth it for them then fair play.

[unborn chasm]

I swear thats been an issue like 2 years ago haha

[unborn chasm]

Sure lets hear it haha

[nocturne dust]

Some people dislike Wildfire, but it is good and is a damage increase. Wildfire works by spreading up to 4 stacks of soulblaze on a target that dies, with each stack being distributed evenly (so a dying target with 3 stacks spreads 3 stacks, 1 stack to each nearby enemy if there are 3 of them with 0 stacks, but will spread 4 stacks if the dying target has 4 stacks, 2 to one of the 3 nearby enemies). Wildfire will spread stacks to a target as long as the target has less than 4 stacks. Wildfire is incredibly useful because it can spread beyond your Inferno staff's range, meaning when an enemy enters Inferno's range you already have 4 stacks applied to them when in tense, Auric Damnation/Havoc 25+ situations due to enemy density being stupidly high. That is 1/4th of Inferno's max stacks, which is significant and really helps Inferno stack all that quicker and kill quicker, helping Wildfire spread more. On top of that, Wildfire helps eliminate chaff (4 stacks doesn't kill alone but can kill with Blaze Away and other buffs) and manage your sides/back without you doing anything. You won't be killing hordes with Wildfire, but when you turn around to face a threat you'll find enemies nice and pre-toasted. It also helps you gain more Warp Siphon stacks through In Fire Reborn, and get the first stack of Soulblaze so that your Blaze Away blessing always applies even if other Soulblaze Psykers are around. I wholeheartedly support Wildfire on an Inferno build in the game's current state (and it's still very good on a lot of other staff builds with Creeping Flames too).

Get info dumped

[unborn chasm]

Tbh, halfway in i got tired of reading lol

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[rigid moss]

It's not that much to read.

I'll spare the obvious joke about LLMs hurting our attention spans

[potent echo]

Pushing forward in any high pressure scenario is always a bad idea

[unborn chasm]

Finished it now haha

[potent echo]

Whole team should fall back but pubs never do this so 🤷‍♂️

[potent echo]

Prebaking is really good, tldr

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: rushing into twelve billion gunners is how I get my rudder stirring

[potent echo]

And then spawn another boss

More rudder stirring

[plucky flax]

Magistrate is such an easy map in auric but in havoc it's jut hell.

Gunners galore.

[potent echo]

The whole sewer part after the ascender

Guh

Or even the part before

Actually the whole mission

[rigid moss]

I guess as bubble psyker what I hate most is anything wide and open because fuck a billion shooty bits from all directions.

give me a nice cozy corner to put my bubble in please and thank you

[nocturne dust]

I mean, that's just the game

[rigid moss]

indeed

[nocturne dust]

If my back isn't to a wall, it's to a poxwalker stealth unit

[rigid moss]

Or 12 crushers because fatshark has fucked up the sound effects again

and suddenly you get mauled out of nowhere

[unborn chasm]

Any tips about bubble placement that i should know, that i might not?

[rigid moss]

I think I learned the most about bubble placement on objectives from various YT vids I watched where people explained where to put bubbles.

[marble crater]

Place on top of gunners, place on top of Beast of Nurgle, win

Place where you want to push, bubble blocks all projectiles, including trapper nets, nurgle spit, grenades, doesn't block the fire on the ground though

[rigid moss]

I think yeah, that's maybe a good tip: Generally place it in front of you, not on you, when walking through the level. Where you put the bubble, the team will go. So adapt that mindset

[plucky flax]

Flame team if they don't go to your bubble.

[marble crater]

I placed a bubble under the floor once, because it bugged, and my team didn't go into it. Smh

[plucky flax]

You should flame.

[marble crater]

I did, I grew up with Halo lobbies, of course I flamed them

[polar flower]

Do any other psykers here love Mommy ASMR

[marble crater]

Zealot chat is that way

[gray juniper]

Ok a technical question. What does “eliminate chaff” mean?

[gray juniper]

Yea this is true and my habit when starting the game. Always got killed that way because I’d be surprised that I was left behind. In havoc everyone is smart and falls back but now I have the opposite expectation of where they will go

[marble crater]

Chaff is trash horde enemies

[gray juniper]

Got it

[plucky flax]

Chaff is the weak units in total war games.

Meatshield.

[quartz barn]

In havoc literally everyone spam pings fall back when they need to lmao

In pubs thats seen as toxic

[hearty wolf]

Retreating is toxic

You should die rather than falling back, coward

[rigid moss]

Dukane liked this

[cold ivy]

gross generalization: in pubs people are playing to have fun, in havoc people are playing to win

so stuff that might be seen as overbearing or micromanage-y in pubs is acceptable in havoc

[tiny oracle]

and i thought zealots hated us... an arbites just told me to "just die then because you are worthless anyway" dont remember the exact line but it was along those lines

[potent echo]

Khrone pilled

Blood must flooow

[nocturne dust]

kills random mooks

poxwalker is dead

very not sad

[potent echo]

I see game theorists say rogue trader is Tzeetch and dukane is Khorne

[rigid moss]

And here I thought my Savant Psyker and the Arbites would get along with each other :(

Both spouting constant nonsense about the Lex and all that

[nocturne dust]

like expecting two Warhammer nerds to get along but one is Fantasy and the other is 40k

[rigid moss]

Heh

[quartz barn]

Average vt2 vs darktide convo

[potent echo]

I'm still waiting for my temp HP is better than toughness arguments

Haven't seen those around since 2023

[gray juniper]

Seriously?

[potent echo]

Idk I've never been called out on it

Different region and all

[gray juniper]

I do this regularly when someone is getting left behind, the team is split or we need to escape to a specific point before getting owned

[vagrant flax]

I've never even done havoc. How does it compare to Auric? I can clear those 90% of the time

[potent echo]

Very different

[gray juniper]

You’re going to think it’s easy

[potent echo]

Or not different, depends on how you see things

[plucky flax]

It's impossible on EU server.

[gray juniper]

Then you’ll hit ~23-5 and start getting owned hard depending the team

[vagrant flax]

Oh dear haha

[gray juniper]

There’s false confidence to the lower levels

[potent echo]

You need to learn the modifiers by failing first

[gray juniper]

At least you won’t be like me, a newly level 30 psyker going “ok idk what this havoc thing is but it says I can do it now since I’m 30

I request a level 12 pox gas mission and I end up on all fours the whole time getting dragged along by a nice zealot and two vets

[rigid moss]

In addition:
Auric is just Damnation with Hi-Intensity added to it and sometimes more than that.

Havoc has more unique modifiers and goes beyond damnation difficulty from a certain level on.

[potent echo]

You have less HP, get less ammo, quell peril slower, etc etc

[gray juniper]

Nah I’m pretty sure there’s a damage modifier to auric right? I see a damage difference between the two

[potent echo]

No

[rigid moss]

I don't think so?

[potent echo]

Auric and damn enemies have the same hp

[gray juniper]

I mean on the player

[potent echo]

There's no player modifier

At all

Enemies just have lower health on lower difficulties

[plucky flax]

You're OP in non havoc then you enter havoc and you get gimped.

[gray juniper]

Hmm so maybe when I make a mistake I’m just getting hit by two grunts instead of one

[rigid moss]

Auric has no inherent difficulty. That's why there were Auric 4 and Auric 5 missions before 1.8

[potent echo]

More like getting shot by one stalker

Byebye

[gray juniper]

Nah not in auric

[rigid moss]

Auric is just "always get hi-intensity and then maybe a second modifier on top of it"

[gray juniper]

You’re talking about havoc

[potent echo]

Yea havoc ranged enemies they stopped using water guns

[gray juniper]

What’s the main difference to maelstrom because there’s a higher enemy density on that

[rigid moss]

Maelstrom just has unique mission modifiers

[nocturne dust]

more modifiers

[rigid moss]

like "all melee, no ammo"

[potent echo]

Maelstrom density is kind of stupid sometimes

[rigid moss]

maelstrom is the stupid mode, so to say

[nocturne dust]

It is, yeah

[potent echo]

You really get (close to) 20 maulers sometimes

Too bad they all die instantly because psyker OP

[rigid moss]

Or "all specials are now chargers - a billion hounds, a billion bursters, a billion muties, nothing else"

[nocturne dust]

I was just in a mael with 20 pox bombers in a single room (I counted) 💀

[gray juniper]

Guys are you sure you’re talking about current maelstrom not old maelstrom?

[potent echo]

I think it's same just that player skill went up quite abit

[gray juniper]

I’m a newer player but I played it briefly and remember the modifiers. Old maelstrom was noticeably easier

[potent echo]

Or idk I've been playing bugged maelstrom all this time

[rigid moss]

Maelstrom didn't change with 1.8, no?

[gray juniper]

Yea the hound wave sound often means mutants are coming too

Something had to

[potent echo]

Everything is coming

[gray juniper]

Before it was “waves of specialists” and it would be like one specialist type at a time

[potent echo]

Also 10 ragers from behind you

[gray juniper]

“What’s coming?”
“All of them”

[summer prairie]

any auric map that has the high int modifier changed, maelstorm is high int + other stuff

[rigid moss]

So yeah. Auric and Maelstrom don't change the stats of anything as a baseline. A Maelstrom Heresy mission is still just heresy difficulty, just with a weird modifier on top of it.

[gray juniper]

Some maelstrom quick plays are genuinely weird too though. One had low enemy density and nothing seemed special. I don’t get what that was supposed to be

[potent echo]

I don't think marl heresy still exists, does it?

[deft stump]

Stop reminding me of disabler waves on mortis. Totally fun to be mutied into a dog into another mutie into a net then blep.

[gray juniper]

Mutants are so ok compared to trappers or dogs

[rigid moss]

Notably, Maelstrom missions are exclusive to the Heresy and Auric difficulties.

from https://www.playdarktide.com/news/patch-1-8-0-battle-4-tertium

[potent echo]

No damn

So weird

[deft stump]

As in, dragged into bad spots or into nets.

[potent echo]

I remember being able to slide into mutants and they can't grab you

[rigid moss]

Auric doesn't exist for Heresy anymore

I guess you confused that

[analog verge]

mutant threw me real close to a daemonhost once

[rigid moss]

Auric is now always damnation

[analog verge]

hasnt happened in forever but i still hold a grudge

[potent echo]

Understandable

[gray juniper]

That makes no sense at all. Why are they giving people a maelstrom on heresy?

[rigid moss]

So people can have fun with the absurdist modifiers on easier difficulties as well without stressing so much

makes a lot of sense to me

[potent echo]

To promote the new horussy tabletop

[summer prairie]

auric and damnation maelstorms would be too similar

[gray juniper]

Yea I’ve been try the leg sweep with sword and it’s not working anymore

[rigid moss]

Like, Maelstrom is the fun mode. The one where you switch up the rules in unreasonable ways. I can see why they would want that more accessible.

[potent echo]

It's the only mode that buffs players outside of your loadout

Enhanced blitz etc

And Mortis

[rigid moss]

oh yeah 20% higher ult chargerate right?

Oh I forgot that mortis trials existed for a second

[potent echo]

I think it's 20% less cool down but yea

[rigid moss]

Do people still play mortis?

[potent echo]

Yes.... Rarely

[rigid moss]

I found that many people played it for like a week when it released and then have forgotten it completely

[analog verge]

yeah i get people on auric mortis

unless its midnight

[deft stump]

Damnation or auric has ppl.

[rigid moss]

Okay

Good :)

[deft stump]

Uprising is solo penances.

[rigid moss]

I can appreciate that. I like that variety exists, even if I haven't touched them in ages

[plucky flax]

I heard it's better and more spawns now

It used to be so boring.

[rigid moss]

hmm. Might need to give it a shot again then. It's been a hot minute.

[deft stump]

Auric anyway.

8 bosses at once?

But you are stacked but they have like 3x hp?

[marble crater]

Uprising is too difficult now

[gray juniper]

I played heresy mortis recently to fool around and there was people there surprisingly

[analog verge]

mortis is fine, just add some more boons for psyker please because a lot of them are useless (and they dont even get the broken grenade boons)

[plucky flax]

8 bosses with mortis buff is easy

[gray juniper]

Definitely. Gated difficulty level

[marble crater]

Karien used to carry me, but now she only carries people in havoc

[gray juniper]

You can shout multiple times and I think it stacks to 3 max

Maybe higher

[plucky flax]

Its because she hates germans

Especially the unsanctioned guy

[analog verge]

the boon for +2 charges of ability?

everyone gets that

[gray juniper]

That sucks

I didn’t play mortis with other classes

[analog verge]

psyker is still psyker so its not like its bad but a bunch of the ranged buffs dont synergize well with staff at all

[deft stump]

You never ask to play, last you were on cyberpunk and rogue trader?

[gray juniper]

It does help you own as gunker

[deft stump]

He hate noobs, WDYM.

[rigid moss]

Yeah but tbf, playing vet with 3x VoC is pretty absurd

[gray juniper]

They let you do the infinity ammo thing

[marble crater]

Not Rogue Trader, too much reading. I'm playing BG3 now

[analog verge]

i mean yeah

[potent echo]

Rogue Trader really fun though

Outside of the reading

[marble crater]

Plus a lot of stuff on PC, now that my PC can actually start games without dying

[analog verge]

the readings the best part

[plucky flax]

Yeah like me.

[analog verge]

everyone has great dialogue

[potent echo]

Their next game finally will be fully voiced i think

[gray juniper]

It’s the year 2025 and we’re still getting text dialog games

[potent echo]

Owlcat is smol okay

[marble crater]

Their next game is for The Expanse, damn I am so looking forward to that

[gray juniper]

Sir I arrived at this game station with my brain off

[potent echo]

They don't have larian cash money

[gray juniper]

It was intentional

[dull scroll]

you guys talking about the Laurian 40k waifu simulator?

[gray juniper]

That’s pretty wild

[marble crater]

Also 3rd person

[potent echo]

Owlcat 40k waifu simulator

[analog verge]

the best 'waifu' in rogue trader isnt even romanceable

[potent echo]

Drukhari don't get justice...

[marble crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIQifuOTTe8

[potent echo]

Is this larian or owlcat

[analog verge]

eh?

[potent echo]

Oh huh

[analog verge]

the drukhari are ||very romanceable|| unless thats not what you meant

[potent echo]

I thought it was fart herussy

[potent echo]

Oh I haven't tried yet

[marble crater]

Owlcat

[deft stump]

[analog verge]

well.. probably not the one you want

[potent echo]

Leaving my heretical run for last

[marble crater]

Don't worry, you are not a noob

[dull scroll]

Larian's art style is too far from grimdark

[deft stump]

Oh. Still too busy to play anyway.

[analog verge]

i hope Dark Heresy has twice as much reading

[deft stump]

Chaos is being sus.

[potent echo]

I heard somewhere it will be fully voiced

Idk if one of their announcement trailers or website or reddit..

[gray juniper]

I want to have a Martian war ship fr fr

[analog verge]

i think they said its actually smaller than RT so id hope so

at least smaller scale, one planet vs multiple systems

[potent echo]

But not smaller in game scope?

Like classes / acts

6 dlcs

[analog verge]

no clue at all

they havent said that much (unless it was in their dev streams or whatever)

[marble crater]

[analog verge]

if the next 3 RT dlcs do well i assume dark heresy will get some too

[potent echo]

Trazyn is insane

Give me Tau in one of them

Any

[analog verge]

tau are mentioned like, once, in base game i think

[sacred surge]

I can't imagine how RT going to escape Trazyn of all necrons

[potent echo]

Yea there are shield drones

In a warehouse somewhere

Orks also mentioned in same said warehouse

[sacred surge]

|| Lots of things were mentioned. But we only seen Genstealers, aeldari and necrons ||

[potent echo]

That's spoilers

Kind of

[plucky flax]

This is typical h40 lobby
https://youtu.be/VVlsTRjjSUw

[analog verge]

maybe we're just... not cool enough...

[sacred surge]

Better?

[potent echo]

Yuh

[sacred surge]

RT? Not cool?

[potent echo]

Mysterious threat deep in your ship woooooo spoookyyy

[sacred surge]

It's a sentient toaster

[analog verge]

listen i dont know what trazyns standards are

maybe we're not interesting to him

[sacred surge]

True form of Omnissiah revealed

[sacred surge]

If not Rt, then something else. || Like Nomos mb || or some ancient relics hidden in family vaults

[potent echo]

Clearly is abelard

Who wouldn't want abelard

[analog verge]

turns out abelard was actually an undersized primarch

dont question it, it makes sense

[potent echo]

Can you romance abelard?

[sacred surge]

He's exactly right sized. Others just overcompensating

[sacred surge]

Nah

[potent echo]

Guh

[sacred surge]

Hes more like RTs grandpa/nanny

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-sad-cat-gif-9833277429497503270

[analog verge]

alas

[potent echo]

And?

[analog verge]

i cant remember if it was implied he had something going on with theodora though

[sacred surge]

Nope

[potent echo]

[analog verge]

[sacred surge]

I'll never forgive owlcat. They added Sororitas and made her unromancable

[dull scroll]

what a tragedy, I blame the 3 wound psyker

[potent echo]

Lore wizards tell me they aren't nuns

[analog verge]

i dont think they have any rules about celibacy

[potent echo]

They do the karking

[analog verge]

someone who knows more about 40k, correct me

[sacred surge]

They don't have any wows preventing them from having "intercourse" or kids

[plucky flax]

Players just suck ass

[deft stump]

Yuri only.

[hearty wolf]

Wtf

[gray juniper]

But where did the party come from? Is that really average?

[hearty wolf]

AgentChaos is toxic

[sacred surge]

Bruh

[plucky flax]

Its just party finder

[summer prairie]

you chose them

[plucky flax]

They cleared h40 before they must be good

[summer prairie]

true

[plucky flax]

I didn't check builds I just clicked accept

[gray juniper]

That’s funny considering there’s 100 havoc 40 groups every day

[marble crater]

I'm sorry

[plucky flax]

Was short on time

[deft stump]

Is Sisters of battle. You know is yuri/lesbians only.

[sacred surge]

I read somewhere about Inquisitor who had entourage full of sororitas. He had plenty of kids with "mysteriously" white hair.

[sacred surge]

Double bruh

[plucky flax]

Yeah and 90 of those groups play like this

Even at the lift going up all 3 of them are already low hp

After first part of the map

[gray juniper]

Sister Danica fine af since I watched that show

[summer prairie]

you deserved that blockade though

[gray juniper]

The video and this is informative in so many way

[summer prairie]

went too far

[plucky flax]

Went too far where? We're in that medicae section

[summer prairie]

yeah it's a bugged section

also why the ritual starts immediately

[deft stump]

What? Maybe an eunch will get close.

[zinc gate]

Hello fellow brain bursters~

I was hanging out with the Arbiters but they are hating dogs too much so Im here now hanging out with the cool kids

[sacred surge]

So far I've been bursting my brain

[plucky flax]

Don't let the bulwarks distract you from the fact 2 guys went down immediately after being rescued to the captain 's shield break

[summer prairie]

maybe it was the bug

[sacred surge]

Arbitres without dogs? Bro wth

[potent echo]

how do players still do unintended jumps in H40 omegalul

[plucky flax]

Tru or maybe they just suck ass

[zinc gate]

Lots of them talking about being lone wolf's.

[potent echo]

just seperate the keybinds

[sacred surge]

Eh

[sacred surge]

WEAK

[zinc gate]

Agreed!

[rigid moss]

You mean all the charge zealot players are now playing arbites instead?

[zinc gate]

Yes.

[summer prairie]

it was the bug actually

[zinc gate]

But its okay, because all the disguised zealots just means extra rations for my good dog when they die~

[summer prairie]

you can tell because it goes through toughness

[sacred surge]

I like to sic my dog at flamers

Always hated those

[potent echo]

the aggro bug?

[plucky flax]

Very sad for them

[summer prairie]

the captain doing the shield overload (t-pose) attack and players taking fall damage

[plucky flax]

Catching more flames

[zinc gate]

Got my dog set to attack any ranged. The little weak dudes with normal guns do more damage to me than anything else in this game I swear

[sacred surge]

It's quantity over quality

[deft stump]

If you were mantling, jumping, launched by a mutie or anything that can knock you back or up... Shield break is insta down/dead.

[zinc gate]

Can I ask something and hopefully I wont get laughed out of here?

[sacred surge]

You may

[plucky flax]

You might get laughed

[rigid moss]

You may ask and you may hope.

Doesn't mean you won't but we allow the hope.

[zinc gate]

I know where I am right now. I'll just be quiet.

[deft stump]

Just ask.

[zinc gate]

For the Emeporer and all that...please dont servitor me

[jovial juniper]

Smite is good

[gray juniper]

Didn’t know this was a thing. Yes it instakilled me before but I didn’t know why

[sacred surge]

Abelard! Turn that reject into servitor

[sacred surge]

Haaa

[zinc gate]

The "new" force sword, the 2h. It charges up and makes the slice attack beam hit harder? Is the only way to charge the sword up through hitting enemies?

Is it powering up with my cleaves?

[deft stump]

Killing enemies with melee, yes. THat's how you charge it.

[potent echo]

killing enemies

and no it doesnt change how it does in melee

[zinc gate]

Actually getting killing blows with it?

[potent echo]

only funny beam

[deft stump]

And yes, it does more and hit a wider area when charged up.

[jovial juniper]

At 0 bar you only stagger
At 1 bar it kills hordes
At 2 bars it'll be able to hurt and even kill elites

[deft stump]

Well, the area is by memory.

[potent echo]

like the sword itself?

[deft stump]

No, the beam.

[zinc gate]

Wonderful info to have thank you!

[deft stump]

It always feels like it hits a wider area at 2 bars than none.

[potent echo]

also the sword beam loses damage rather quickly over distance

[zinc gate]

I was mostly confused on how the charging worked, because sometimes it felt like I would get a ton other times like nothing

Its linked to killing blows so now I know! Thank you everyone~

[deft stump]

Specials and elites kills grant more charge.

[zinc gate]

Makes sense~

[flat nexus]

Big sadge

[zinc gate]

I dont think I've ever really used smite much

[jovial juniper]

Good, it's boring

[deft stump]

But yeah, you can just ask stuff. FS sucks at telling ppl things about their game things anyway.

[zinc gate]

Now that I think about it, it might be a bad habit but I like never use blitz stuff on my Psyker

I feel like there isnt time, use staff then melee!

[rigid moss]

How are we building force greatsword anyways? I toyed around with it a little when it first came out but never really used it much afterwards.

[zinc gate]

Has worked well enough for me so far (Im not a 40 player)

[gray juniper]

Did you start recently?

[deft stump]

Unyielding and cara.

[jovial juniper]

The build is similar to Gunker, buffing weakspot and critical damage
Blessings are anything, except Blazing Spirit, Warp Slice and Tranquility murder or whatever the name

There's also an alternative build called Bubble Knight

But I'm not too kin on it

[deft stump]

Most blessing combo works except for that warpslash crit, soulfire on crit and one more which I forgot.

[gray juniper]

It’s like a bubble, but a knight

[deft stump]

Nil, it's a knight, with a bubble.

I set my own battle zone feel.

[gray juniper]

But then it would be called knight bubble, not bubble knight

[rigid moss]

mhm. I mostly think it's a fun toy but in a world where DS exists I find it hard to justify using BGS

Even if the slash-shot will never not be cool

[deft stump]

Once it gets nerfed... Would be a fun week to watch.

[rigid moss]

Not wrong

[gray juniper]

Going to set an alarm to remind myself not to try to climb havoc around that time

[rigid moss]

Ty for your answers

:D

[deft stump]

Better to start learning other weapons just in case it hits.

[rigid moss]

Part of why I asked

I guess knifes still exist afterwards.

Although I did like both force swords while leveling them up

[last shore]

Told a guy he crutches so hard on arbites, that he would fold super fast on psyker or vet. He gets on psyker to prove me wrong. Dies 5-6 times each auric mael.

[rigid moss]

theyre at least fun

[zinc gate]

Me?

[deft stump]

Doesn't have that high of a damage though.

[rigid moss]

yu

[gray juniper]

Deserved tbqh

[gray juniper]

Yes ma’am you

[last shore]

What’s even worse is he got true survivor with dog bleed bugs (full 4 man dog bleed stack squad with his group of friends), finally gets it after 5 tries before they fixed the dog bleed.

[zinc gate]

No, Im not new. I just dont like the air about high level play in darktide or vermintide

[last shore]

I told him it’s not legit.

[gray juniper]

Again, rightful

[zinc gate]

Or I should say, expectations of high level play

[gray juniper]

And that’s ok

[last shore]

I don’t think there’s expectations of high level plays until havoc 30+ tbh

[deft stump]

Is a game, play whatever feels fun for you.

[last shore]

Other game modes are chill

If folks wanna rage in aurics, let them

[zinc gate]

Then that's where I will start capping out likely.

[potent echo]

i expect havoc 25 to be an auto win

[gray juniper]

You’re so mean dawg

[zinc gate]

This. Like I get it. I do, dont go into high levels with no experience and dont play like a dummy. But stuff happens and Im not looking to be ridiculed over being caught by a trapper or a sudden burster going off. Hearing all the negativity is enough to put me off even attempting Aurics honestly

[gray juniper]

Had a game with 3 gold tag people, one being a poxbreaker. We lost near the end but nobody was salty

They weren’t on their mains either tho

[plucky flax]

I also sucked maybe I could had clutched it

[deft stump]

I remember asking 3 H40 players to help me with it for my pants... They somehow uhh... Failed.

[gray juniper]

Wait. People talk to you in voice chat?

[deft stump]

I ended up joining a random 26 and getting it.

[plucky flax]

Why didn't you carry?

[deft stump]

Then massive jumpskip to H40 because some ppl here found it funni.

[zinc gate]

No, typing or just gameplay. Reddit and here in the discord

[potent echo]

i block all VC, theres nothing they can say thats useful for anything anyway

[gray juniper]

I got the pants of my own merit Karien 😌

[rigid moss]

I've had these people

I learned that you can put all voice chat to 0% volume right then and there

[deft stump]

Well, they failed... I ended up playing with randos since I still wanted to try for them. XD

2 books, a bubble and a shout vet.

[gray juniper]

That interesting. The only thing that’s been obviously negative from here was people making excuses to leave after a bad match

[last shore]

Yeah I did the same at 28. Played 40’s with a few folks from here, jumped to 40’s from 28 and got multiple 40 clears including 2 true survivor runs on this version of havoc (with 7 from havoc 1.0). But we failed some missions too. So I’m like stuck hovering around assignment rank 30 doing this.

[plucky flax]

Yes we know youre pro and carry everyday karien

[sacred surge]

I just tend to play on heresy, cuz i don't want to think too hard after workday

[gray juniper]

You know I want to bring up the game chat issue again

[sacred surge]

Lel

[zinc gate]

I float in Damnation for the same reason mostly

[gray juniper]

I don’t get and disagree with the taboo here on game chat

[plucky flax]

Is tru she carries me every week for h40

[gray juniper]

Like if it’s with four people from here

[last shore]

This is why I need @plucky flax to help me get multiple dubs in a row

[deft stump]

I don't.

[deft stump]

I do not.

[sacred surge]

Btw how or when i get convicts? I wanted to post some pics in driptide

[potent echo]

post moar

[plucky flax]

Better ask karien for free carry

[last shore]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-space-marine-warhammer-warhammer-40k-stare-gif-15034398051697687266

[gray juniper]

Good for you also

[last shore]

The 300 ping 10 fps carry

[sacred surge]

I honestly prefer Darktide over space marine mp

[plucky flax]

Ye and screaming in your ears

Put her on 50% for your sanity

[last shore]

Well I’m deaf irl so I’m safe from that

[plucky flax]

[zinc gate]

Free carries?

I promise to look pretty while you carry me

[deft stump]

I DO NOT CARRY. GET UNSANCTIONEDPSYKER INSTEAD.

[marble crater]

So modest

[potent echo]

a true champion..

[sacred surge]

Of slaanesh

[gray juniper]

Lmao

[deft stump]

I think I need to drop like 28 kraks in this area.

[zinc gate]

Im leaving now

[gray juniper]

Drop the crate

[sacred surge]

That reject right here Commissar

[deft stump]

That's 2 crates of kraks.

[potent echo]

2 krates

[jovial juniper]

What did Carries do? 😭

[gray juniper]

Ok that’s a funny

[deft stump]

I KNOW IT'S NOT A SECRET.

[gray juniper]

Actually somebody like bear is perfect for playing my non-mains so no pressure on goofs

[last shore]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-racing-skills-tricks-happy-gif-533082346809470154

[celest quail]

out here throwin krak like we're LAPD

[gray juniper]

That’s the CIA

[sacred surge]

Lol. I'm about to leave mine in 10 mins

[celest quail]

no they just invented it, they dont do the legwork

[gray juniper]

true true

[last shore]

Trade.

[sacred surge]

Nah

Suffer just like i have suffered

[rigid moss]

Me when playing Ogryn or Zealot

"I have no idea what I'm doing but at least it's fun, right?"

"Oh I'm dead"

[zinc gate]

This reject said that Grendyl smelled funny

[deft stump]

Or maybe 36 frags would be better. >_>

[potent echo]

according to the lore, he probably does

[deft stump]

That's psyker.

[rigid moss]

Can I interest you in an Immolation Grenade or three dozens of them?

[gray juniper]

I need more practice on vet

[rigid moss]

No with Psyker I believe I have some semblance of an idea of what I'm doing. With Zealot it's pure "BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR, SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THROOOONE"

[sacred surge]

Reminds me how we played auric and then some adeptus idiotis went and triggered demonhost

[rigid moss]

and yes I know book is better that's why I don't play zealot in any reasonable game

[sacred surge]

In the empty room. After we said not to

[rigid moss]

Tl;dr vet: VoC is better than you are.

[gray juniper]

That’s so sad

[tidal siren]

I always felt most in control on psyker, no worries about ammo, and don't have to look out for some bullshit clipping me in a needless melee brawl

[gray juniper]

I saw some guy get called out by someone in his party in pub chat

[deft stump]

Blitz on Zealot? What's that? Never uses Tknoifes as well cos annoying to use on controller. And limited 'nades annoys me.

[gray juniper]

Ok I’m bad but you didn’t have to be so cutting 😭

[sacred surge]

Till your head explodes

[potent echo]

veterans from Darktide: I'm backline!
veterans of Darktide: what's a backline 🚬

[tidal siren]

Thats what my single wound is for ❤️

[deft stump]

Uhhh, I can't psyker... I think everyone knows. Unless you get 2 idiots worse than me on psyker somehow.

[rigid moss]

tbf, I was implying that VoC is just absurdly good as far as skills go

[gray juniper]

It’s where the 9 scab ragers spawn

[rigid moss]

Free-out-of-jail-card for the entire team that you can reduce the cooldown of significantly.

can secure objectives, can save teammates, can get you out of any situation, can even stagger bosses

[gray juniper]

We can psyker anytime why don’t you just ask?

[tidal siren]

There can't be a true backline in this game, which is a shame, that's how I would like to play vet

[deft stump]

I seriously cannot play psyker.

[potent echo]

back in the days you had that camo thing as long as you stood still lol

[gray juniper]

Offer is always available just saying

[deft stump]

I would be better on vet.

[rigid moss]

Remember the olden times. Back when there was only one ult per character. back when your job as vet was to shoot all the shooty bits because you had the ult that highlighted them and wouldnt be targeted by them

[deft stump]

Though after so much Arby... >_>

[gray juniper]

Ofc ofc but it’s not about that 🫶

[sacred surge]

Flamethrower staff and psycho sword

[rigid moss]

back when the loot treadmill was hoping for hadron to give you a usable blessing for once in her emperor-forsaken-life,

haaah. good times.

[potent echo]

back when your job was hold W + lmb with your agripinna braced for unlimtied uptime and invulnerability

[deft stump]

Dies in 3 hits.

[tidal siren]

I still miss that horrible 3 point skill tree

[deft stump]

Oh wait, that's my vet as well... if I get backstabbed.

[sacred surge]

But with style

[rigid moss]

Nowadays Vets have VoC instead and we don't speak of the other two ults because they're gobshite

[sacred surge]

And i just like psyker flame k

[deft stump]

I prefer EK.

[potent echo]

now that SG actually has immunity to suppression yea

exe stance is so far behind

[rigid moss]

tbf, I liked exe stance back in the day and played plenty vet games with it. But nowadays, there's just no good reason to ever pick it over VoC

and then there's the stealth ult of course...

[potent echo]

its uh

[rigid moss]

it exists.

that's all we want to say about it.

[potent echo]

vet chat told me its good for realsies

[rigid moss]

shur