psyker-class

[marble crater]

It's only one extra target, warp splitting gives you more if you have peril

[gleaming dust]

ah okay, if you wouldntm ind, whats the playstyle with this? do i want a staff and a horde clearing sword or a tank killer weapon?

[marble crater]

A gun, reconlas or vraks are popular, for killing bosses and big groups of elites, in melee you swing your sword, switch to assail to throw a few shards and then melee again

[gleaming dust]

gotcha so the fgs 8 is a good call then

gaze is for when i big horde comes ya

[marble crater]

gaze cooldown is not that long and with the talents you can quell peril very well as long as there are enemies, you can be very liberal with how to use it, but mostly for hordes and groups of elites

You will figure it out

[gleaming dust]

got it, thanks alot

[heady maple]

Playing psyker feels like mutilating torture lately

[marble crater]

Then you are doing it wrong

[hearty wolf]

gg gamers

[fierce crest]

whew

[strong gulch]

I still like EK in havocs

*ek shriek

[fierce crest]

rejects 1

nurgle 26

get owned gramps

[heady maple]

I routinely have the highest damage per game. What's the point if you can't keep up with all the mindless W mashing arbites

[hearty wolf]

why are you so mean to me

[vestal trench]

barrel them

do it

totally not falling into chaos if u do it

[hearty wolf]

those games were funny though

easily tanking 3 captains and a wall of armour np

should have timed BTL with the rescues but brain had turned to mush by that game

2nd time I've made that mistake this week

[vestal trench]

can you ability use while rescuing? or is that a v2 thing

i never tried LOL

[hearty wolf]

nah

But the amount of stun it gives you

is just enough time for a revive or disable

[marble crater]

Just do what I did in my psyker game, rush ahead yourself, it's not a problem because onbiously the arbites will do it anyway

[vestal trench]

sick

[heady maple]

I'll just play ogryn or arbites until they make this class have an option beyond "get stuck with everything everyone else staggered or the mob behind you". The downtime you have casting with staff just makes you pointlessly vulnerable. I can do so much more with less playing other classes

[hearty wolf]

@vestal trench like

Idk you had to be there to see it

I use shock maul

[vestal trench]

i will be there eventually

[hearty wolf]

I'm stuck in a corner wih twins and the mines

and shti tons of armour

[vestal trench]

work's been some shit

[hearty wolf]

a sniper is shooting me

I crouch it

twice

i literally cannot move

[heady maple]

Nothing personnel kid

[vestal trench]

ive been in 7 hours of meetings this week

[hearty wolf]

BTL> escape

get stuck in another corner

btl> escape

go for the res

start it

think

"Hmm, this isn't a good idea"

stop half way through

then thought "It would be nice to have some help"

get 99% through other res

ded

[vestal trench]

til u can crouch snipers

[hearty wolf]

Do not recommend as a rule of thumb but lik

if you're stuck in a corner and cannot move

what else you gonna do

[vestal trench]

LOL

jfk shudda crouched 😔 ✊

[hearty wolf]

I was being gang banged by like 8 crushers and 5 bulwarks lmao

[jovial juniper]

Highest damage
Can't keep up

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch did you have a clip of that

[jovial juniper]

I'm getting mixed signals

[hearty wolf]

I wish I clutched in and decided not to be a bot

[vestal trench]

game lets shit like this happen and fatshark refuses to let me name my ogryn orgyn

[gleaming dust]

is warp unbound needed?

[strong gulch]

I recorded something at some point. I'll check

[ripe obsidian]

Go to sleep.

[hearty wolf]

Ah shit, here we go again

I even gave myself an extra 25m 😭

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[vestal trench]

LOL

[hearty wolf]

It's okay though, we won

[ripe obsidian]

I'm pretty sure that downtime is necessary since you don't have ammo and do absurd damage. But I also think this might just be bait.

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf

[fresh reef]

Venting here in the hopes that people stop playing this build in havoc

Infinite smite is ass

Stop using it if you can't play the game

Literally just get good

[hearty wolf]

@vestal trench xd see

But yeah you can see

I do 2 throws

[strong gulch]

Needed? No but it is both fun and lets you crank out damage. It's a great node.

[hearty wolf]

I use BTL to get to the rescues faster

like that 1 second is going to make any difference rather than stunning everything???

and then I use btl but don't follow up with a res

brain rot but I think that was our 16th game?

[hearty wolf]

I think you just need to get over that particular skill gap

Psyker has it roughest dealing with things solo imo

inferno left click make funny appearance

[half turtle]

man since when has flayer procced off warpfire

[last shore]

Hit me up tomorrow

[half turtle]

did it always do that and im just blind

[last shore]

I’m game for a few

[ripe obsidian]

Pretty sure forever. Not positive

[half turtle]

that's nuts i guess i'm just the least observant player in history

anyways i exploded like 6 times in my first havoc 30+ in months and my team managed to carry it still

so that's nice

[vestal trench]

U WERE SO CLOSE THO

god damn

[hearty wolf]

There were many more successful clutches but they were pretty standard unfortunately

We play for clips

[vestal trench]

based

[strong gulch]

It's a fairly recent change. Bleed used to be able to proc it but then that went away for a LONG time. Burn from infernus could proc it for awhile, but not SB DoT.

I forget after what patch, but all of the DoTs outside of electrocution can proc KF now.

[heady maple]

I'm not baiting. It's a class clearly at odds with newer class philoshpy and dealing with difficulty catered to just left click through all their problems

[half turtle]

oh okay that's good to hear

[strong gulch]

For the clips. Got blocked but that guy also got smashed.

[half turtle]

hm both purg and trauma have viable and not that mechanically-difficult ways to get away from mixed packs of pretty much anything that isn't a boss

[vestal trench]

how did that hit kdjsjfjd

[strong gulch]

ALSO, that one ritual that we all thought that we cleared spawning on me was quite the jump scare. lmao

[heady maple]

I'm not saying Psyker sucks or is useless. But if you're not playing at the top of your game at all times (I think I'm above average but also deal with health problems) I can't consistently perform at 100% flawlessly. A single mistake means death as Psyker. Ogryn and Arbites have redundancies on redundancies

[half turtle]

e.g. you can spam lmb on purg or fast-pop the smallest possible circle on trauma, then dodge for space, then get a good charge

[indigo thunder]

If I want to have higher damage against bosses in havoc 30+, should I use DS or FS?

[strong gulch]

I got blocked by a horde booger. 😭

[weary idol]

I think Deimos out damages DS into bosses?

[half turtle]

do you need to charge it to do that or is it just the light-heavy spam

[indigo thunder]

Getting blocked by the poxwalkers is the worst feeling ever

[vestal trench]

the visual hitbox had the overhead land right next to you though 😭

getting elden ring/monster hunter flashbacks LOL

[strong gulch]

It feels so bad ngl

[weary idol]

don't use that if it isn't the Illisi

just do your pokes

[indigo thunder]

So many times I got caught by the net due to being swarmed by poxwalkers and having no direction to dodge

[weary idol]

Especially when they're lying on the floor :)

[indigo thunder]

@plucky flax o great psyker senpai, give me tips how to deal with boss spam on havocs 30+

[tulip kettle]

focus the horde and tell the other 3 players to kill the boss

ez

[indigo thunder]

That hasn't been going well for me

[half turtle]

yeah my 30+ clears feel like they depend a lot on if the other players have good boss damage

[deft stump]

You mean, "UnsanctionedPsyker senpai".

[marble crater]

It's a different guy 🙄

[jovial juniper]

Force Labrys

[wet charm]

squeak ❤️

[gray juniper]

I’m starting to realize this is a pivotal decision moment on if you win or lose. Like I’ve been allowing myself to get bunches up by these guys because it seems manageable, but really it’s something you need to escape immediately so you don’t get trapped

[indigo thunder]

Hard to push your way out with a dueling sword

[tulip kettle]

hard to push your way out in general without a specific tool

like venting shriek

or arby maul push

[ripe obsidian]

Or trauma

[tulip kettle]

or arby shield special

or arby break the line

or arby dog ability

or arby...

you get the point

[indigo thunder]

Ngl, I have been contemplating heavily to drop Dome for shriek

But on the other hand, not worrying about flamers/trappers while fighting in the dome is so damn good

[tulip kettle]

are you playing havoc 35+? i wouldnt recommend it. otherwise do it

[gray juniper]

That’s why inferno bubble is something hard to adjust to. You have no quick tools to rely on

[gleaming dust]

what exactly are warp attacks, finese damage and cleave

[indigo thunder]

I've been playing purgatus+bubble unless there's another psyker using it, then I switch to Trauma

All the way to my 29. Yeah, it's kinda hard without a good panic button

[half turtle]

feels like a lot of purg/bubble is kinda knowing what you can hold and what you need to kite out and positioning accordingly

[gray juniper]

The blast staff is the most accessible solution, but I’m trash with it

[indigo thunder]

Oh and also making Beast a punching bag

[half turtle]

purg is super good at kiting because you can just drop 15 stacks and then run away

[ripe obsidian]

Fair. For higher difficulties, Psyker gets fucked in a lot of situations that Arby or Ogryn could escape. Like, I followed an Arby and got caught in ~20 maulers. Arby dashed out, I got left behind, boxed in, and smashed. Then got blamed for being in the wrong spot. Which, I was, but because I was trying to support a teammate who was also in the wrong spot.

So yeah, it can be frustrating to die instantly if your tanky teammates don't care enough to support you.

[half turtle]

with trauma/blast i think it's probably really awkward until you get decent at venting in slide

[gray juniper]

Yea I’m thinking folks who became aware it’s the META and use it at higher difficulty have the habits figured out to get out of trouble

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek is fine if you're the secondary psyker or extremely confident in your playing.

[half turtle]

but basically you can vent 1 tick during any slide and this helps the ergo of staff play a lot

like you can blast blast > backdodge slide vent > blast to easily keep space

[tulip kettle]

you also charge while sliding

[half turtle]

yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh a lot of it, if you aren't AgentChaos or Syllogism level of play, is having decent teammates who stay between you and the wall of enemies.

[half turtle]

for both purg and trauma you can start charging your rmb during the slide before you pop up to get a "faster" charge

well for the other ones too obviously but i haven't seriously tried those in havoc and probably won't due to skill issue

[indigo thunder]

#psykerreworkwhenfatfishpls

[half turtle]

you can also lmb once during slide if you have literally nothing better to do which is sometimes valuable to keep up peril when you're running away/to something

oh also you can look behind you while sliding "for free" while doing any of these things

because sliding doesn't care about your facing

[ripe obsidian]

It feels bad, I will admit, to be the glass cannon class only to get outdamaged by an unkillable Ogryn. Or, in my H40 games, to be the glass cannon who keeps ending up as the last man standing because the Ogryn thinks he's unkillable

[half turtle]

actually my favorite useless trauma micro-optimization is that if you quickswap to your melee weapon immediately after blasting, you'll chain into a light attack immediately "for free"

[jovial juniper]

Warp attack is any attack that builds peril

Finesse is Critical/Weakspot/Critical Weakspot damage

[half turtle]

on something like ds4 where the light attack accelerates you, this gives you a slightly better slide

[gray juniper]

This absolutely blows in a way ngl. So everyone has to be on your level or better to succeed

[tulip kettle]

indeed

and even 4 good solo players will struggle

[mortal breach]

So far I've been having a blast playing with the force greatsword, revolver, assail and scryer.

Thinking about swapping to brain burst for armored enemies, but I don't know what ranged weapon to pair with it

[tulip kettle]

you have fgs for armoured enemies

or revolver

[half turtle]

brain burst is imo mostly a sniping "sidearm" for running one of the two aoe staves (purg or trauma), you probably don't want to be relying on it for primary armor damage

[tulip kettle]

those are already some of the best tools for rmour and brainburst is very, very bad for it

[half turtle]

revolver is fine against armor

yeah

[indigo thunder]

It's also good to take out those pesky snipers in a pitch

[tulip kettle]

in high havoc thats almost all its for

[half turtle]

brain burst is mostly for like, safely picking off gunners in the Death Room of Gunners or whatever

yeah and snipers

yeah in high havoc gunners take 2 pops which suuuucks

[tulip kettle]

proccing kinetic flayer and killing snipers

[half turtle]

it feel slike since they unnerfed ammo that it has a lot smaller of a niche in high havoc

[mortal breach]

I just find I don't often end up using Assail most times, so I wanted a more useful blitz, and revolver is great don't get me wrong, but it takes forever to reload and the mag size really gets me down

[half turtle]

since in havoc 1 it felt like you kinda used it as sniping support anyways even though it sucked

[tulip kettle]

you should be using assail a lot

[half turtle]

just to spend actions/peril

[ripe obsidian]

They just need to stay alive. But I think in basically every game I played this past week that wasn't premade, I was the last person standing on Psyker and Arbites. I am not good enough to carry, and even if I were, it's damn hard to win with twins, a weakened pogryn, and a chaos captain on your ass.

[tulip kettle]

like, a lot a lot

you have malefic momentum i would assume

[half turtle]

assail is pretty much primary hordeclear

[tulip kettle]

so you are missing out on like 40% damage

on all your stuff

by noth throwing an assail very 8 seconds

[half turtle]

you should pretty much always have assail needles out when running assail

yeah

you should be weaving it into your melee

like smack smack smack shove toss 3 assails shove repeat

[tulip kettle]

shoot that trapper with revolver, dodge that mutant, swap to fgs, slash those poxwalkers, assail those shotgunners, shoot that trappper, slash those poxwalker

[vestal trench]

bruh why does trauma mute my audio sometimes

[tulip kettle]

and thats 2 seconds of gameplay

[half turtle]

fun fact about assail lmb is that it follows the camera constantly

so they'll retarget at whatever you're looking at

[deft stump]

Breaks with too many channels used.

[indigo thunder]

I don't even remember what assail rmb does lmao

[half turtle]

single stronger shard that you javelin-toss slowly and homes on a target you pick, does more damage but costs more peril

[vestal trench]

i exploded cuase i got so confused LOL

[deft stump]

If you hit too many targets, rip.

[half turtle]

imo usually not worth assail rmbing unless there's nothing near you or you really need to kill a sniper

but i also dont play that much assail

[heady maple]

yeah my main gripe is that I generally feel more glass than cannon. If you're like the uber darktide player maybe Psyker is the best and you can block/cast your way out of anything but for the rest of us it's an exercise in frustration

[tulip kettle]

yeah you generally just toss out a few quick darts every time you have space when fighting

rmb is for countersniping

[ripe obsidian]

This is also apropos of nothing, but it made me smile. Nostalgia in like three different ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mLtCHC1zhU

[half turtle]

assail rmb has mid breakpoints IMO like it 1-shots snipers but not much else

you can toss 2-3 to kill 2-3 gunners thata re clustered i guess

because of the "cleave"

but it's faster to just spam out like 8 lmbs in the same time unless they're really far

[gray juniper]

So the same thing that’s happened in havoc 25 is what’s happening higher up. So I’m playing with zealots, arbites and so on. What’s going wrong? Folks are getting folded once three bosses show up

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/miyahaha-funny-dance-headphones-music-gif-3971010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9aorO9_gVA

[indigo thunder]

Yeah idk. High havocs make me think keeping playing psyker is an excersise in frustaration

Been a psyker player since early access week lmao

[half turtle]

psyker is definitely the fiddliest class

[ripe obsidian]

Target prioritization. Good H40 groups will focus down a boss in like 30 seconds. Bad ones scatter and die alone. Sometimes the director is just an ass, but other times people have zero coordination.

[tulip kettle]

my brain while playing darktide

[half turtle]

i think one other thing is that its' harder to get your teammates to do stuff on psyker

vs like if you play chorus zealot you just kite the boss into the room your team is in, stand in the door, and hit F

and your team is like "oh i guess there's only one thing to hit"

[ripe obsidian]

I've seen, particularly with the Arby release, an influx of people going into H40 with no defensive abilities and just dying in weird situations.

[tulip kettle]

such a factual statement

[deft stump]

That's what high skill floor be like. Remember that Oggy and Arby is hilariously overtuned to OG standards.

[half turtle]

i think honestly that psyker would feel a lot better if they just made overloads not kill you

[indigo thunder]

I have shit boss damage 🥲

[ripe obsidian]

What really frustrates me is when I'm on Purgatus and covering a doorway so the other 3 can kill a boss, but two of them sprint over to chase green circles and kill the horde I was already managing

[half turtle]

like yeah skill issue sure but it is hard to be completely on top of everything while also managing 5 other things for 45 minutes

[ripe obsidian]

Like, I am the AOE machine. Go hit the boss.

[tulip kettle]

i experienced this many times just today 🙂

game ends in a loss

[half turtle]

nothing like seeing a bolter vet magdump the horde you're controlling while a boss is active

[indigo thunder]

Been there as well. Too many times. Or even not during boss onslaught, I'd be flaming a corridor/door frame, and one of the mfs would come in and smack the same horde

[tulip kettle]

arb dmg - 1000k 200k boss dmg psyker dmg 800k, 120k boss dmg, other 2 players, 500k dmg 20k boss dmg

[half turtle]

seems about right

i think psyker damage goes up a bit relatively as difficulty scales

because both the psyker meta weapons have infinite cleave

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, it does

[tulip kettle]

well yes

thats why you bring it

[ripe obsidian]

Purgatus feels bad in lower difficulties.

[half turtle]

so it's easier to top dps on h40 than h30

yeah purg feels awful in aurics for instance

[tulip kettle]

you dont expect your zealot or ogryn or vet to top dmg

[half turtle]

although i did somehow end up in a 2-man histg yesterday that nobody else joined for some reason, and it felt great there

[ripe obsidian]

lemme find a scoreboard, hold on.

[tulip kettle]

you explicitly do expect them to do more boss dmg than you

[half turtle]

dude even red stimmed me on a crusher pack

[indigo thunder]

Which is the second? Trauma?

[half turtle]

yeah

[fresh reef]

accidentally ruined someone's ASS streak

[fresh reef]

hating myself rn

[half turtle]

generally people run purg or nexus/flurry trauma in high havoc

[rigid iris]

Yep

[tulip kettle]

classc

[half turtle]

i've seen some fire trauma and some brittle trauma but not a lot

[tulip kettle]

from a pub?

[ripe obsidian]

Yup

[ocean grotto]

why do u have a power axe

[tulip kettle]

wonderful

[indigo thunder]

Fuck em. They should learn the tech of quickly leaving the lobby when things go south 😂

[tulip kettle]

this was nearly every scoreboard i saw today

[fresh reef]

no dude I barreled them by accident, at the very very end

[tulip kettle]

not great

[indigo thunder]

I thought it's usually nexus+blazing spirit or flurry+rending?

[rigid iris]

Lmfao what did you do

[indigo thunder]

lmaoooo

[half turtle]

i see both of those too

my feeling is that blaze trauma is not as good if you have to run bubble

[fresh reef]

it was the ONE barrel on magistrati oubliette

on the left side of the boss arena

[half turtle]

truama only gets to 6 stacks natively so you're depending on shriek to get lots of soulblaze damage up front

[ripe obsidian]

It's been every scoreboard for like 2 weeks for me. I don't get it.

[tulip kettle]

everyone wants to be the main character

[fresh reef]

consider the following unholiness: rending blaze trauma

it's actually really fun

[patent mango]

rannick let me borrow one

[tulip kettle]

nobody feels important when their job is "stand in front of the psyker and funnel the enemies into the flame

or "stand behind the psyker and keep trash off them while they flame"

[half turtle]

how do you get crit without nexus tho

[rigid iris]

I mean you don't have to

[fresh reef]

true aim

[half turtle]

oh

[ripe obsidian]

Also, for some reason I keep getting rejected from party finder missions, then I see that same party still looking for a 4th player like 20 minutes later

[half turtle]

dang true aim

[fresh reef]

also stacking every other crit buff I can get

[half turtle]

i guess you smack horde 4 times and then big trauma

[fresh reef]

barring scrier's

[rigid iris]

What title u got on

[tulip kettle]

no, you dont have to

[indigo thunder]

Maybe they didn't like your true level number kek

[fresh reef]

cuz h20 sloppers need bubble

[tulip kettle]

you also dont have to win, you know

[half turtle]

actually i should try this

[fresh reef]

and still die

[ripe obsidian]

Poxbreaker or True Survivor. One of the two.

[half turtle]

smacking horde 4 times and then trauma seems fun

[rigid iris]

Odd

[ripe obsidian]

My true level is like 500

[rigid iris]

That should be fine

[tulip kettle]

lol its not odd

[fresh reef]

I can fetch the tree if ya want

[tulip kettle]

its normal havoc 40 behaviour

[rigid iris]

Oh 40s

[half turtle]

yeah sure

[rigid iris]

Nvm

[half turtle]

could be fun

[indigo thunder]

What does the talent tree look like for such?

[tulip kettle]

blazing trauma tree looks the same as inferno

warp flurry rending tends to pick up quietitude and a few other points to drop mettle

[half turtle]

yeah nexus flurry looks the same except you take warp stacks on kill instead of warp stacks on fire

unless you have another psyker on your team running fire

[tulip kettle]

i mean it doesnt

because you wont run mettle or peerfect timing

which you would on blazing trauma or inferno

you also usually wont take the 5% crit node for KD

and put the points elsewhere, usually to double pick up empyric resolve and pen of soul

[rigid iris]

Whats true aim

[tulip kettle]

a talent that isnt really appropriate for any of these builds

useless on trauma

[fresh reef]

@half turtle the horror

[tulip kettle]

what

the

[half turtle]

hmm generally i run this on nexus flurry https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9f5a8950-4661-434f-b065-269e967ebad2

[tulip kettle]

its so close to awesome

[half turtle]

i don't like empiric resolve, i think it's actively bad

[indigo thunder]

good enough?

[half turtle]

i generally don't have high peril problems, i have low peril problems

[tulip kettle]

nobody runs nexus flurry

wtf are u talking about

its flurry rending

[ripe obsidian]

Went into an H40. Arby dies to crusher overhead, Zealot gets launched off the map, Ogryn falls off a ledge. I am the last man standing. All within like 3 minutes of starting.

[tulip kettle]

or nexus blazing

[ripe obsidian]

I decided to just die because I could not clutch it.

[half turtle]

hmm it seems moderately popular on high havoc

[tulip kettle]

this looks great

[half turtle]

just my experience, also looking at people like jsat or reginald or wahtever

[fresh reef]

then take it off and slot something else lol
I ain't picky how you run it

[tulip kettle]

i dont agree with that at all

[half turtle]

oh i wasn't responding to you, i was responding to the guy who said to run empiric resolve instead of mettle

[fresh reef]

ohh

mb

[tulip kettle]

i think ER is great if you are running rending flurry trauma and want to be able to actually make use of warp flurry

[half turtle]

yeah you could swap kinetic deflection for flayer or resonance depending on playstyle but that's got the core

[half turtle]

yeah i just don't have this problem im not sure what to tell you

[indigo thunder]

I don't like it either

[tulip kettle]

likewise, it makes no sense to run nexus with flurry

[fresh reef]

I play deimos with trauma weaved into my combos; it's a touch weird but it's really fun

[indigo thunder]

With it I can't tank gas in the dome

Or even Aquila

[tulip kettle]

and it makes even less sense to do it on VB

[half turtle]

like you're pretty much always moving around at least a little bit

so that's free vent ticks

[tulip kettle]

and it makes even less sense than that to run mettle and PT and EE with a trauma staff

[half turtle]

you slide and vent, now you can pop twice again

[tulip kettle]

in what universe

[lusty cloak]

Anyone trying to get True Survivor Holler at me..

[tulip kettle]

okay sure dood w/e

[half turtle]

i think i would rather leave a dead point than run ER tbh

[tulip kettle]

thats up to you

[indigo thunder]

But deflection is so damn good tho

[half turtle]

yeah i don't think it's bad, it just depends on if you plan on blocking

[tulip kettle]

i would keep it

[half turtle]

with trauma you can kinda trauma your feet in lieu of blocking a lot of the time

[tulip kettle]

you want the 5% crit node before it anyway

lol no you cant

stuff is unstaggerable

you will just die

[half turtle]

well you can't always do it obviously

but you can also dodge, slide, etc

i mean it's obviously just a choice, depending on your playstyle

[tulip kettle]

i think taking trauma into final toll will get you and your teammates killed

[half turtle]

it works fine for me in H40s with pubs

[indigo thunder]

The penalty for toughness regen from Empyric Resolve is so noticable

[tulip kettle]

thats what i think

[half turtle]

yeah i think that's a reasonable opinion to have although it's not my personal experience

like you can just move and reposition

[indigo thunder]

Remind me what Final Toll does. Is it the one that makes enemies immune to control at 50% hp?

[half turtle]

red guys yeah

[tulip kettle]

i think flurry and nexus is popular on EK

and its obvious why

[indigo thunder]

Isn't that the only choice for EK kek?

[half turtle]

basically trauma is annoying with red guys because you depend on stagger for safety

[tulip kettle]

no

surge and nexus are also good

[vestal trench]

(^:

[half turtle]

so you have to get more comfortable with movement

it is very finicky but definitely not impossible

[half turtle]

anyways this is neat ill try it

time to roll up trauma staff #4 LOL

but hey nothing else to do with the mats

[ocean grotto]

ive been running trauma staff and i just keep blowing up even full of shit to make it harder to blow up

lore accurate psyker gameplay

[strong gulch]

Got 2 in a party if anyone wants to join

[half turtle]

where at what for

[strong gulch]

gloriana and idk

potato things

[half turtle]

this is the most relatable thing i've seen on here

[half turtle]

hmm im down i guess

although i just got back from a few months not playing so i am exploding a lot LOL

that's the disclaimer

[elfin merlin]

why dueling sword is a popular pick among the psykers

[half turtle]

mobility and damage

[elfin merlin]

what else is a popular pick

[half turtle]

knife, same reason for mobility, force greatsword cuz it's good

50% of melee weapon on psyker is like "my other weapon is a staff which has shitty dodges and sprinting so i quickswap to it to run faster"

[elfin merlin]

is there such thing as "mage berserker"

[half turtle]

kinda you can run disrupt destiny and a few other things and get pretty ok melee, esp if you're good at clicking heads with the dueling sword or are good with fgs

[elfin merlin]

scrier's gaze and FGS

[half turtle]

illisi is also ok

[young cliff]

Playing "make kebab with their heads" with FGS feels quite good

Deimos also live this minigame

[half turtle]

yeah

generally your damage in melee will feel good but you don't have consistent tools for repositioning/safety the same way zealot/arby/ogryn do

so it's finickier

[elfin merlin]

a single whoop and all lesser enemies are nowhere to be seen

also you get to recuse your teammate from dogs through wall

[young cliff]

That's the "I have a moon blade and I'm coming for you" minigame, bonus points if you use a bolt pistol

[elfin merlin]

i run FGS and bolt pistol for anti armour

[ocean grotto]

you even had shriek this is not fair

[ripe obsidian]

Yaaaaay, broke my losing streak. Most of the damage I took was from a teammate blowing up a burster and a barrel on me at the same time, ha

[gleaming dust]

Ive seen this as an alterante to the pinned gaze build online, i like the toughness but idk what souldrinker is for

[half turtle]

congrats

[half turtle]

i guess you're supposed to proc it off of perilous combustion lol

[gleaming dust]

is PC really needed? it seems to always get taken but it just doesnt look that worth it, for 2 points

[strong gulch]

Love an arby going down to a bunch of specials and shooters so you go kill everything and save em then he just runs ahead and dies repeatedly

[vestal trench]

the arby:

[elfin merlin]

what about psyker then

[gleaming dust]

id take of the souldrinker, not sure what to put that point into, but this one gives a feasible 63% toughness dmg resist

either a +15 toughness node or quietude

[gleaming dust]

oh the dude has blazing spirit on his sword, still dunno if its worth all that

[sturdy reef]

ne H40 ers

[elfin merlin]

how long can you tank daemonhost with kinetic deflection, deflection and alot of block efficiency

[gleaming dust]

thinking this

[tulip kettle]

the nodes on DD dont make much sense

i would swap to perfectionism and take cruel fortune to maximise dmg

or if you arent confident in its uptime and usefelness

then take lingering without cruel fortune

or, my preference

take dd and none of its nodes

this saves you 2 points to put elsewhere

likely you would take warp speed and something else

are you running this with a gun, with a melee focus, or..?

[potent echo]

Perfectionism is kinda weird

It's amazing if you're at the front

[tulip kettle]

i tend to agree and think its generally not worth it, i think its slightly better with cruel fortune, but still its not worth 2 point investments for a potential temporary 10% finesse increase

but i also think thats the ONLY time you take cruel fortune

if this build is using gun

as there is already BCoB

i would be tempted for tranquility and purloin maybe

[deft stump]

About 3 mins with vent and WS -peril.

Might be more if you don't hard AFK the second lap after vent.

[cursive thorn]

does psyker have devils claw

[tulip kettle]

yes

[potent echo]

I always take cruel fortune even with the duration one

[tulip kettle]

i think its just not worth a point at all

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[tulip kettle]

honestly one of the worst nodes in the tree

[strong gulch]

If you learn the attack pattern and have a force sword with KD, then forever.

[deft stump]

As for how I know... Hi, I'm the idiot who has a hold block and near AFK tank DH build.

[tulip kettle]

dont you take corruption in an aoe around the DH or am i crazy

[strong gulch]

Curel Fortune is fine.

[deft stump]

Is capped at around 45% base psyker hp.

[strong gulch]

If you don't need it don't take it.

Most take it.

[deft stump]

I also know for a reason.

[strong gulch]

Purloin is bad. Not quite unlucky for some bad but still bad.

[tulip kettle]

i agree with that

i dont understand your take on cruel fortune though

[strong gulch]

feck i left water boiling on the stove

[tulip kettle]

especially with lingering

[strong gulch]

don't walk away from the the stove while cooking

[jovial juniper]

Yes and it's the funniest class with it

[strong gulch]

foregtting happens and then it's bad

[jovial juniper]

You pick Kinetic Deflection

Parry spam until 97% peril

Then shriek

Parry spam until......

[elfin merlin]

the most reliable way to unalive a daemonhost ngl

[deft stump]

Bruh, get an electric water kettle. There are metal ones even if you hate plastics. .-.

[strong gulch]

I'm boiling pasta. Put a timer.

The screaming alarm will remind me.

[deft stump]

Oh.

[potent echo]

You do

[deft stump]

Capped at around 45% base psyker hp.

[tulip kettle]

you just saved me from burning my house down

[ripe obsidian]

Oh no, the heretics pulled out their master play: eight hundred gunners behind cover all firing at once.

[tulip kettle]

unironically and with no exaggaration

hahaha leaving water boiling is funny

wait a minute

[potent echo]

Sarry ppam

[tulip kettle]

didnt i put something in to cook 3 hours ago?

on the plus side now i have 2 lumps of coal and an intact kitchen

[deft stump]

What was it originally?

[tulip kettle]

cheese and bacon turnovers

i am mildly upset that i wont get to eat them

[deft stump]

Better burnt food than burnt house though.

[zenith cave]

When you forget youre cooking and you blow up like a psyker overloading because they forgot to quell

[ripe obsidian]

If yer still playin'

[sturdy reef]

sec

[strong gulch]

i now have undercooked pasta because food now

[ripe obsidian]

Not undercooked

Al dente

Slightly fascinating to me that I had the lowest melee damage. We lost, due to the aforementioned eight hundred gunners, but it mostly went well until then.

[sturdy reef]

who else for CBT H40

purple/red

[deft stump]

You masochist.

[ripe obsidian]

in that case, I will be a purgatus psyker

And blame you for my death

[sturdy reef]

scriers or bust

@hearty wolf @strong gulch

[ripe obsidian]

Sin is definitely asleep

It is 5am there

[sturdy reef]

o right

[sturdy reef]

join in the masochism

[strong gulch]

I'm shoveling food in my face. Need a little time. My hand is a little sus, so carry me.

[ripe obsidian]

You can be zappy psyker

[strong gulch]

block or not is gonna be a 50/50

[ripe obsidian]

I will be burny psyker

[sturdy reef]

Zap and Burns

[deft stump]

Nu. Not 40 yet.

[sturdy reef]

oof

[deft stump]

Rather lower risk games for 3 more weeks.

[ripe obsidian]

My FPS is still going from like 90-100 down to 50 in hordes, even though I turned my graphics down pretty far. What the hell, Darktide.

[sturdy reef]

Ive just lived with that

and accepted it

[ripe obsidian]

The hitching causes the game to eat inputs sometimes. =/

[deft stump]

50? Try 14. XD

[ripe obsidian]

No. >:(

[deft stump]

Also, lil gremlin out of shower.

[deft stump]

Hrmph.

[sturdy reef]

Imma look for one more then

[strong gulch]

@sturdy reef @ripe obsidian loading

https://discord.gg/ueyDkbE4

[gleaming dust]

is PA needed in this? seeing as the cooldown from SP and WS give you enough to get the bubble back as it ends

[deft stump]

Is mostly cos I rather chill than havoc for most part. Ask Chaos to carry and run around staring at loot funni.

[sturdy reef]

smh

[strong gulch]

always

[gleaming dust]

i assume for the team buff

[strong gulch]

and u

[gleaming dust]

but you could take warpp battery, which would decrease cooldown further and add more damage

i dunno if my tone is off, not tryna argue just tryna learn haha

appreciate your responses

[strong gulch]

if you want damage take shriek

warp charges are for abiility spam

bubbles can stack too

so team and u

[gleaming dust]

alright gotcha thanks

[elfin merlin]

is the bullet block 360

[deft stump]

No.

Only what you face.

[elfin merlin]

90 degree ?

i mean can i just sit in a corner and pray that my team will come ?

[deft stump]

If it's infront of you.

[deft stump]

To a degree.

You will still die to overheads, dogs or nets so... lul.

[elfin merlin]

can i tank a daemonhost

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[deft stump]

I told you.

If you go full memes. 3 mins~

[elfin merlin]

that's

[deft stump]

AFK hold block, vent at 95%

[elfin merlin]

more than enough for someone to help me

daemonhost only attack whoever pisses it off right ?

[deft stump]

Yeah.

If your team willing to kill, should be enough time.

[elfin merlin]

have anyone like

[strong gulch]

Mostly yes. There is weird priority actions and if you have SB on the DH but someone else aggros it, you can end up with aggro

[elfin merlin]

accidentally slide into a daemonhost once

[elfin merlin]

what's sb again

[jovial juniper]

I chastised into one once

[ornate hamlet]

You can pretty much sniff a DH and back away

It has a pretty lenient "oh god oh fuck" window

[jovial juniper]

Blink and you'll miss it

[frosty falcon]

turn off screen shake it makes me ill

[deft stump]

Unless you were playing months ago where a spot is a kark you if you have more than 1 oggy.

[ornate hamlet]

[deft stump]

First oggy wakes her, second triggers her. Just by sneaking cos their hitboxes too big.

[elfin merlin]

what is SB

[elfin merlin]

dont call DH a her, it's a ho

[sturdy reef]

ne H40 enjoyers

[gray juniper]

Soulblaze

You can block and dodge the daemonhost fairly easily on psyker and more easily since you’re using deflector. Only one hit breaks your guard and she pauses after the heavy hit

[ripe obsidian]

Can someone tell me if the Melee twin's spin attack is supposed to go through block, toughness, and do health damage all at once?

'Cause it's really frustrating

[plucky flax]

Should be able to block it.

But it comes out very fast. So watch out.

[ripe obsidian]

It's not blocking.

I am holding block and at full toughness, and I am taking 50+ health damage

It's happening every twin fight

[plucky flax]

Any havoc gamer before work?

EU is dead this early in the morning.

Maybe I make lfg ofr USE.

[gray juniper]

Yea I thought it was unblockable. It like cleaves through especially if you’re close

[ripe obsidian]

But it shouldn't do damage through toughness

Full toughness is supposed to block damage. >:(

[gray juniper]

Idk that’s not the only game mechanic that does that as far as I think. Maybe it’s intentional?

It’s lame as hell yea. If she’s on me in the hard mode I’m basically running for healing if I live

[deft stump]

I told you I'll just try to go 40 with 2 lives and just drop after till reset, lul.

If we just fail twice.

[plucky flax]

What?

Never heard this before and I don't even know what you mean.

[deft stump]

Weekends, in DMs. Try to get to 40. 2 lives.

It'll reset to 3 with new mission on monday, right?

[plucky flax]

I have bad memories.

[deft stump]

Is okay.

[hearty wolf]

Uuu I'm awake

Am very eepy

[ornate hamlet]

Andromeda

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/seiya-gif-5548812

Maturing is realizing Andromeda was gay af

But he was a true homie

[ornate hamlet]

bruh

[ripe obsidian]

@plucky flax how do I avoid taking damage on Ogryn? Every time I play it, I take a stupid amount of damage. Mostly due to fucking up dodge timing, 'cause Ogryn dodges feel weird to me, but also just from random chip damGe constantly

Even on the LMB Bully Club build.

[proper osprey]

just had the worst expreince with a havoc 40 with a psyker, oggy, and arby

[ornate hamlet]

confident strike

[proper osprey]

and everyone is declining

[ripe obsidian]

I already have this.

[ornate hamlet]

my oggy is basically unkillable but could still be improved

lemme get the build so you can look at it

[ripe obsidian]

It's frustrating, because I can play a Psyker or Arbites game and take <200 damage pretty consistently, but Ogryn is always way more

So I dunno what I am doing wrong

[proper osprey]

the psyker was running a knife with flesh tearer and riposte

[proper osprey]

real

i get lazy as oggy

[ripe obsidian]

What was his name? There's a Psyker I've been seeing a bunch this time of day who always has garbage builds

[ornate hamlet]

i literally played havoc 30 with a autoclicker

[proper osprey]

meister

[ornate hamlet]

on my oggy

[proper osprey]

oggy was heretic launcher

[ornate hamlet]

i have a kickback caus ei have been really unlucky

i need a rumbler

[proper osprey]

its what ever tho lol

[ripe obsidian]

Not the same guy. Alas.

[ripe obsidian]

I can do Auric Maelstrom just pressing my LMB macro and W with zero issue. It's havoc 40 where I get shit on

[proper osprey]

real

havoc 2.0 is a diff beast

havoc 1.0 was easier

[strong gulch]

true

2.0 is also more fun

fading light 3 can kick rocks

[ornate hamlet]

i was almost done with making the build to send

and accidently deleted the tab

[proper osprey]

my main issue is getting surrounded by a ton of oggys or maulers or netted in someway

[strong gulch]

ye

[ripe obsidian]

Today I made a mad sprint across the last third of Chasm Logistratum as Psyker being chaser by like 20 crushers and 30 maulers

[proper osprey]

or peeking out of cover and gunners eat me alive

[ripe obsidian]

Then the game cheated me out of a revive

[proper osprey]

or captain bug

[strong gulch]

silent burster pre jumping around a corner is extra bad

[ripe obsidian]

I'm very salty about the melee twin and sword captains doing damage through block and toughness.

[strong gulch]

ye

[proper osprey]

tbh i think i could do a hav40 duo

[ripe obsidian]

I maybe could, depending on the modifiers

I have done a trio

[proper osprey]

if i dont encounter any bugs or simple unfairness like 30 bulwarks

map dependent too

[ornate hamlet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f5af60e-a045-463f-a931-a88463b5351d/grugs-no-brainer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

I'd recommend switching out the kickback for a rumbler as my kickback struggles in hav 40. Unfortunately as i said i havent gotten a rumbler due to bad luck

this build leans into tank a bit more instead of just going balls to the wall melee

@ripe obsidian

[ripe obsidian]

My kickback was struggling, yes

[ornate hamlet]

rumbler is prob the best for melee ogryn as it is super good at dealing with specialist

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, two two captains at once that kill you instantly from full. Get good.

[ornate hamlet]

gren gauntlet works too

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e7ad289-5939-4f8f-8969-47dd83ce5ed6/terrible-orgyn-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

itill work

[ornate hamlet]

i think the melee damage is worth more than the tough replenishment

plus i supplement it with my curios

[proper osprey]

you dont need toughness regen speed

its a dead perk

and to get good value from batter and more damage id do thunderous

just me doe

[hearty wolf]

So I slept on it

What exactly

Does stam regen do on the curious

Curio

And should I be taking revive speed and rescue speed

I'm always the last one alive. Is it perhaps meta 🤔

[ornate hamlet]

i mean i like my oggy

just need better toughness curios

and a rumbler

[proper osprey]

makes your stam regen very quickly very good for clutching and qol

very good on melee psyker and zealot

and arby

[hearty wolf]

But what does stam regen do

Is it the amount of stamina per second regained

Or the delay

[ornate hamlet]

oggy your just swinging lights and your immortal with a push here and there

[proper osprey]

this

[hearty wolf]

Ah

I'm a bit of a stamina fiend so maybe that wouldn't work out too well for me 🤔

If I take it off I mean

I have 3 substats of stamina regen lmao

[proper osprey]

only thing to affect delay is vets nodes, and any talent that gives you stam i belive

ive noticed on oggy with slam i start regen as soon as i smack something

[ripe obsidian]

What're the perks/blessings for Rumbler?

[proper osprey]

maybe i might be fooling myself tho

dis was funny

[ripe obsidian]

And why do you take stam regen on Ogryn if you're using LMB 90% of the time?

[proper osprey]

trying to get away from gunners

helps if able

[ornate hamlet]

yeah i take one just incase i need to run or push

it comes in handy

[proper osprey]

i might change it tho

[ornate hamlet]

not required but helps

[ripe obsidian]

Would it be adhesive/shrapnel and unyielding/maniac on the rumbler?

[ornate hamlet]

your main target will be specialist wwwith rumbler

as your melee does everything else

you just need a way to hit snipers and such

kickback doesnt hold up in hav 40 but rumbler does

[strong gulch]

iirc syllo said is not the regen delay so must be how fast you stam actually rebuilds

[ripe obsidian]

In H40, with 100 toughness, Quietude from 100 peril to 0 restores only 35 toughness

[plucky flax]

Gotta hit as many dudes as possible for more toughness regen.

[ripe obsidian]

I was hitting dudes. I just took more damage than I healed

[plucky flax]

Maybe just skill issue.

[ripe obsidian]

Probably

Which is why I was asking for tips. >:(

[cold ivy]

Are you dodging?

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know how to dodge.

[plucky flax]

I just spam left click with basher club

Use charge often

For cc and for extra attack speed = more toughness regen

[strong gulch]

I am considering dropping quietude on fire VB for EE in havocs.

[ornate hamlet]

taunt works better if you wwanna tank

[hearty wolf]

I have seen you get gunned up quite a few times

Is very sad :(

[hearty wolf]

Maybe I just need to use the shield. Will need to see how it plays though. I like the single stick.

[strong gulch]

Ye. One bullet is a bad time.

Positioning issue but also just eviscerated like wet toilet paper.

[hearty wolf]

It's because I'm not Zealot

Tdr aura isn't as strong I think

[copper oak]

trying to do the Malleus Monstronum penance, does it specifically have to be Brain Burst or can it be the upgraded variant Brain Rupture?

[ripe obsidian]

I had a lot of instances of two poxwalkers hitting me at exactly the same time and taking me to like 30% HP from full

[strong gulch]

A couple always sneak up. 😭

With their filthy hands.

[hearty wolf]

I was actually just thinking about playing Zealot but then remembered duellist is a node

[strong gulch]

My head cannon is they are touching my face with dirty hands and the purple is emotional damage.

[hearty wolf]

Can be brain rupture

[strong gulch]

Can be rupture and can be done with EP.

Yay! Pick for me update.

[ornate hamlet]

Tbf you should definitely use your push and not walk into hordes

Keep everything at a small distance

[hearty wolf]

Today will go better

Maybe we should do my havocs instead of doing 40 only to get there 🤔

[copper oak]

if thats the case i should have gotten the pennance, and yet it didnt give it to me.

[strong gulch]

Pick For Me has random dog as an option.

[ripe obsidian]

If you're playing now, I have time for like one. No meetings until afternoon tomorrow

[strong gulch]

OMG, what if you only take the random dog option. It's like your pupper didn't make it back with you.

😭

[hearty wolf]

Otw to work exdee

I'll likely finish early today because I really cba

[hearty wolf]

I thought pup couldn't die.

You're telling me every time it has jumped into the abyss, it's died? 😭

[strong gulch]

Let's not think about it.

[hearty wolf]

Are you sure you set the game to private

Aaaa I want to bonk

[deft stump]

Upgrades is fine.

[deft stump]

You need to do 50% damage AND get the last hit.

It might not ding if the bots KS.

[marble crater]

I don't think you need the last hit, I helped someone once and the bot got the last hit, unless bots don't count

[deft stump]

I helped ppl before and it fails because the bot took the last hit.

Because did the same to the next boss and it dinged when they got in the last blow.

[marble crater]

Maybe they were just bad

[copper oak]

im positive it was set to private

[copper oak]

i did 100% of the damage to it, ogryn had it taunted in the corner

[deft stump]

Then the only thing is the public private game bug which I don't think they'll ever fix.

[gray juniper]

That sucks sorry about your run

[marble crater]

I blame Karien

[ripe obsidian]

I just came in third for total damage as Purgatus Psyker in a pus-hardened/rituals H40. =|

About 120k behind the Arby and 80k behind the Ogryn

[marble crater]

As long as you won it doesn't matter

[ripe obsidian]

I also learned

That a basic ass poxwalker will do enough corruption damage in one hit

to take me to about 3/4 corruption

That feels new.

[marble crater]

that's h40 for ya

[ripe obsidian]

I don't feel like I used to just die instantly if I got touched

[late rune]

Or that random dreg behind you with barrage that takes 90% of your HP in one burst like frickin rambo

[ripe obsidian]

Like, I don't even go down anymore. I just die.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, from full toughness to nearly dead in under a second.

[plucky flax]

Shouldn't be lower damage than arby now as psyker without their op dog bleed

[ripe obsidian]

I know.

[summer prairie]

+15 clip size is pretty great on a revolver because it makes the last reload free

[ripe obsidian]

Hence my frustration

[plucky flax]

Maybe it's a really good arby meleer or he shoots horde a lot.

[summer prairie]

probably boss farming

[ripe obsidian]

I am not on my PC anymore to get the scoreboard.

[summer prairie]

pus hurts purg a bit too, with bubble it's pretty easy to get outdamaged

if your team has good overall damage

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't have a lot of chances to build soulblaze. Everything died before it hit 15 stacks

[summer prairie]

ogryn with bleed clearing your dots

[plucky flax]

You have to wiggle the mouse more.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, the Ogryn was using Rumbler and bleed melee

[ripe obsidian]

I wiggle quite a lot. I did have the most overall kills

[plucky flax]

Rumbler is just op

[ripe obsidian]

I am tired and frustrated right now. I need to sleep. I died once in that game from a shooter chipping like 10% toughness and a poxwalker killing me from 90% toughness and like 70% HP

I'm feeling weirdly squishy on Psyker this week. Like every poxwalker is a Dark Souls boss

[marble crater]

That moment when you played nothing but arbites and return to psyker

[ripe obsidian]

That's probably it. I dunno. Just salty, I guess. Dying in weird situations where I think I'm safe.

[marble crater]

The solution is simple, play more psyker

[strong gulch]

Valid.

[marble crater]

I made sure to rush ahead of all the arbites yesterday and steal as many kills as possible with shriek

[strong gulch]

Also yeah, people can reliably kill stuff before your DoTs do their thing and if people are clearing stuff before you can get in range tanks purg's damage. I'm not that aggressive and don't hold W hard enough so my damage suffers.

But if things are dead and we can keep playing then I'm mostly cool. I do get frustrated when people are low on ammo and I am BBing far away things and the BB is consistently getting shot. It's a waste of time and ammo.

[summer prairie]

What's causing this

cranial corruption bugged?

[strong gulch]

[deft stump]

Thanks.

[deft stump]

This is somehow better and worse at the same time.

[marble crater]

Also blame Karien for the bug

[paper oriole]

Rattle’em boys!

[paper oriole]

Casual warp fuckery or usual Tzeenth ploy

Considering all Psyker personalities are various level of crazy we shouldn’t be bothered by this, it’s just Thursday

[marble crater]

We are the most sane of them all

[paper oriole]

Whom you mean by “all” 🤔?

[marble crater]

All classes

[paper oriole]

I concur sibling

[hearty wolf]

😭

My reflexes to shoot at something are much faster than stopping to not shoot something

Right click only bb

[strong gulch]

It's not a call out fren.

ALSO light halo is easier to notice and hit.

I do it to other psykers.

BB is pretty slow and if you have a slow reaction time that adds to the slow.

So I get it.

[hearty wolf]

EO also doesn't help because blue on blue

[strong gulch]

Ye

I hope DD gets more marked targets.

[zinc phoenix]

Halloween 🙏

[strong gulch]

There's no reason for arby to have that many and DD only 1.

[summer prairie]

EO needs to be capped to a lower value, like 3-5

[upper sun]

🚬 this is why people hate psyker

[summer prairie]

he worked harder on those kills

[paper oriole]

Work smarter not harder 😁

[marble crater]

All those nades and not a single kill you need to practice some more

[summer prairie]

they have bad cara adm

[hearty wolf]

I'd hate that

I'd understand for balancing

But blue enemies

It's annoying when it decides the blue enemy is the reaper standing around the corner with 32 gunners

How am I supposed to get my move speed

I think EO does have a cap

It's a lot. But I'm pretty sure it's like. 10 or something

[plucky flax]

Tru

[summer prairie]

The movement speed/damage on pounce doesn't require an EO target

yeah sure nice cap (there's no cap)

everything within 40m gets tagged eventually and the tags don't ever go away

[gray juniper]

Karma for soloing the map

[upper sun]

that was the one time i tried to do cool shit 😭

[indigo thunder]

Is gunner resistance useless on high havocs?

[gray juniper]

I know I’m sorry. Ngl this is me too in one of those rare situations and somehow a decent psyker is on the team at the same time

[indigo thunder]

Gunner still shred to pieces

[upper sun]

"somehow" nah dont worry i was friends with him no way that happens in pubs

[hearty wolf]

Idk man I still see a few not highlighted. Think the marking speed needs to be improved 🤔

I was still doing most damage consistently yesterday anyway

[summer prairie]

because I couldnt' be bothered to wait

could instead lower the marking range, then the delay would be more relevant

but would be worse for ranged builds

[hearty wolf]

Ah well

Maybe I swap back to executor shotgun for the brittle

How long does the brittle last on the shell?

[summer prairie]

I don't know why you'd shoot crushers in havoc

already running out of ammo with executors

[weary idol]

no

but it's also not gunners that shred you in havocs most of the time

it's stalkers and shooters

which you can't get DR for on curios

[gray juniper]

You have to admit it’s funny as shit

[gray juniper]

I was watching a havoc 40 video last night. The rate of fire from all ranged enemies is pretty daunting

[rigid iris]

My buddies haven't gotten there yet and don't understand what I mean when I try to explain this

[jovial juniper]

Fatshark when designing smite

[tropic pulsar]

what is the best psy sword and the blessings

[hearty wolf]

Boss

The brittleness stacks on top of other sources or so I've heard

[weary idol]

I have Mk IV Helbore and I kill them instantly :)

[hearty wolf]

So there's no reason not to do it

[summer prairie]

do it on what

[hearty wolf]

Bosses

I sometimes shoot crushers with the shotgun but it's really limited. Definitely not a primary way to kill them

I.e backpedalling from the 10 red crushers

Don't use the special shells for that tho

Either way the bolt pistol has been insanely good on Arb compared to zealot. It just hits much better breakpoints.

Maybe I ought to give the Zarona a try

But mah puncture

Also bolt pistol ammo economy feels much better

Really hard to run out of ammo

I say as I grab like every ammo tin lul

[summer prairie]

the shotgun already has > 1 adm vs unyielding

so it barely helps

[hearty wolf]

Ye but it's gonna help on other sources no?

Soulblaze, bleed, melees etc

[gray juniper]

One way I like delegating ammo is only picking up small tins or heavy tins and leaving the rest for other people

[summer prairie]

for 5 seconds I guess it might on some of those

[hearty wolf]

It's only 5 seconds???

[summer prairie]

something like that

[hearty wolf]

Bruh

[summer prairie]

or maybe 8

[hearty wolf]

Takes like 2 seconds to pump the fucking shotgun 😭

[marble crater]

But consider this; pick up everything and leave nothing for other people

[gray juniper]

Transcendent; activating scriers just to outrun everyone else to pick up all the ammo

[summer prairie]

8s of 25% brittleness

[marble crater]

Exactly, zealot is a melee class, so doesn't need ammo. Arbites is melee and dog, also no need for ammo. Vet has a talent where crits don't consume ammo, so they also don't need it. Ogryn has lucky bullet and is great at melee. Clearly all ammo should be for psyker

[gray juniper]

It’s starting to add up. The math is mathing

@marble crater starting playing zealot again last night. It’s definitely so much stronger on melee. Made big strides on eviscerator mastery and leveling then got in the elevator and the game crashed

[marble crater]

[glacial vapor]

[gray juniper]

Ngl you notice when there’s no psyker on the team. Higher level arbys going down per usual

Suprise clutch with thunder hammer and braced autogun dogshit combo because I didn’t want to lose experience progress

[jovial juniper]

The one you like

For the 1 handed

Slaughterer + Uncanny/Defletor/Riposte

For the 2h

Anything but warp slice and Blazing Spirit

[gray juniper]

The combos on the Deimos seem like garbage. How do you guys use this without the special to kill heavy enemies?

[glacial vapor]

Either H1 - H2 repeat

Or L1 - H2 repeat

[jovial juniper]

You never use the special

Quite literally

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah you just spam heavies

[dull scroll]

demios forces you to cancel the first useless h1 to get to the juicy h2, obscurus is therefore superior

[gray juniper]

Definitely seems like the great sword makes it obsolete then

[jovial juniper]

Nope

[wraith sphinx]

No

[gray juniper]

Orly?

[wraith sphinx]

Well only if you can stomach the greatsword being slow

Which I don't

[gray juniper]

The great sword combos kill faster though

[glacial vapor]

How is your deimos setup? Pretty sure it can kill a crusher two H2s

[gray juniper]

Let’s see

Deflector, riposte

Maniacs and flak

[glacial vapor]

No uncanny

[wraith sphinx]

Try uncanny +slaughterer

[glacial vapor]

Thats your problem

[wraith sphinx]

See the difference

[marble crater]

And cara instead of flak

[dull scroll]

80% times you using it on mutant/specials, 15% on crushers, 5% on every other enemies

maniacs is a must, carapace probably second

[gray juniper]

Ok got it

[dull scroll]

if you want to be absolutely safe though you can leave crushers to team and only use bb on it not melee, which case maybe block efficiency so you can block more gunner shots

[summer prairie]

stamina way better for that

[dull scroll]

actually that might be true

KD scales off max stam

hard

[glacial vapor]

BB, killing crushers? Who has that kind of time?

[wraith sphinx]

I do

[dull scroll]

assuming you have one of them bb speed buffs

if you don't, well 😏

[wraith sphinx]

Don't play darktide if you left your oven turned on

[jovial juniper]

Gamble on EP Flayer

🗣️

[glacial vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/raxdflipnote-meme-gif-3914937335619787342

[gray juniper]

What would you throw on the obscurus?

You’re right it’s like a two shot kill normal heavy pattern. No cancel to the first needed

[hearty wolf]

I use so much ammo, it's not even funny

I think it's about what you do with it

Like killing specials is always my priority

[gray juniper]

@wraith sphinx @dull scroll

[wraith sphinx]

I also use uncanny and slaughterer

[dull scroll]

deflector is a given