psyker-class

[tulip kettle]

if you are bringing smite you should not be running flame staff

[ornate hamlet]

flame staff with brittle can be ran w smite i feel like

idk

[ocean cipher]

trauma exists

and can spread fire p well

[tulip kettle]

what do vs gunners

yes so bring trauma

and shoot LMB attacks at gunners to supress them

then run them down like the dogs they are

[ocean cipher]

this seem decent?

[tulip kettle]

drop the middle smite node

and take the left one

if you were to only pick one smite node

[ocean cipher]

also what melee should i run? ive been using fgs but it doesn't feel horribly effective

[tulip kettle]

you would take the left one

with trauma i like FGS

[ornate hamlet]

dueling sword, fgs, force swords, knives are all pretty viable on psyker

[tulip kettle]

the order of how good the nodes under smite are is left, right, middle

[ocean cipher]

knife would be pretty fun

[tulip kettle]

and you almost never want the middle one

[ocean cipher]

which FGS mark do i want

[ornate hamlet]

knife is pretty good on psykie

[tulip kettle]

and honestly FGS is amazing

[ornate hamlet]

mk6 for big dmg and mk8 for horde clear, but if u have smite id go mk6

[tulip kettle]

i like MK8 but theres reasons for both

the thing is MK 8 also has a really effective single target chain

so you dont miss out on too much either way

[ocean cipher]

and hows this on fgs

[tulip kettle]

bad

very, very bad

[ornate hamlet]

not the best...

lol

[ocean cipher]

i know the perks are bad

but what blessings do i want to run?

[tulip kettle]

its not just perks and blessings its the stats also

[ornate hamlet]

ideal fgs imo

[ocean cipher]

dont u want low defenses

[ornate hamlet]

emphasis on imo

[ocean cipher]

and fire trauma is still viable righjt

[ornate hamlet]

fire trauma is super good

[tulip kettle]

i like this

you can happily change flak for unyielding depending on what you want it for specifically

[ocean cipher]

nexus / blazing right

[ornate hamlet]

yes

[tulip kettle]

if i was running MK 6 i would have cara unyielding

and blazing trauma is nexus blazing flak and 5% crit chance

[thorny trail]

I need some help please. last week, using either this or the other version of this sword, i was easily able to block ranged attack.

[ocean cipher]

what about wrath/deflector?

[thorny trail]

it's fully mastered

[tulip kettle]

you dont need them

[thorny trail]

BUT, just now, i had back to back games where I can't block more than like, 3 ranged attacks

[tulip kettle]

you have bubble

and we both have wrath

wrath is kind of an always

the other is choice

[thorny trail]

I have kinetic deflection, but it still isn't working

[ocean cipher]

ill go wrath riposte for now then

[tulip kettle]

but you have bubble so dont need deflector

[ornate hamlet]

and teammates too >:)

[tulip kettle]

you need deflector

[ornate hamlet]

let your teammates run into the gunner line first

[tulip kettle]

on the sword

[thorny trail]

I understand i have bubble, but that's isn't my question

[tulip kettle]

to deflect ranged attacks

its 2 different people

now im replying to you

you need deflector on the sword to deflect ranged attacks

you dont have it

kinetic deflection just lets you block for peril

[ocean cipher]

well if ive got bubble i dont need deflector

[tulip kettle]

and this is true for you

[thorny trail]

that?

[tulip kettle]

like i said, 2 different people with similar questions

[tulip kettle]

yes

you need this blessing active on the sword

[thorny trail]

AHHHHHH, okay, I misunderstood the other thing then

[tulip kettle]

to deflect ranged

KD just changes blocking cost from stamina to peril

[thorny trail]

Not sure why I was thinking kinetic did it

Okay, thank you for the information.

[ornate hamlet]

@tulip kettle so whats ur fav staff

[tulip kettle]

i am a blazing trauma enjoyer

but i have recently been turned onto flurry RMB EK

and its actually kinda good...

[ornate hamlet]

it is..

i like the void one of the train the most

lol

[tulip kettle]

i started psyker with voidstrike and thought it was the best shit

taking quell peril on weakspot and all the quelling stuff in the tree

look at me i can shoot and stay on 0 peril forever, now ill never blow up again!

good times

[ornate hamlet]

i tried something similiar to do an m1 spam build but it never really worked out

[tulip kettle]

strike forever the forgotten child

they could just buff its lmb to be better than the other staffs and it would actually have a use

[ornate hamlet]

yea.. those are 2 big wishes for psyker, more unique M1 attacks on the staffs and more staves in general

lol

maybe 1 or 2 more

[tulip kettle]

what design space is there

except hurr durr beam

[fierce crest]

all the ones from vt

[tulip kettle]

lmb variations i agree

[fierce crest]

please emperor

[tulip kettle]

right so give me a suggestion for a secondary fire mode from VT that isnt present that isnt hurr durr beam

[thorny trail]

How redundant or just ineffective is this for doing more of a survivability psyker? I'm running 3x hp% but I might be wrong in thinking having lower toughness is fine if it's regenerating faster https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[ornate hamlet]

idk a projectile staff would be cool, like an ice staff that shoots shards or something

like maybe a shotgun staff

shoots a big cluster of ice in front of u

something like that

[tulip kettle]

link doesnt work

you need to press view build at the bottom on the one you have made

[thorny trail]

I'm killing things well enough, not just destroying elites/carapace type guys, but i'm able to stun em a bit and get my attacks in

[tulip kettle]

then copy paste that link

[thorny trail]

Okay,

[pearl viper]

you’re in psyker chat so you should be saying “beloved”

[thorny trail]

guess it's broke

[tulip kettle]

you need to give the build a name

near the top

[strong gulch]

Most these are from VT2 but some staff ideas

beam
shotgun with parry
levitate enemies
pulls or sucks to a location
leaves pools of SB on the ground
actual single target option
one that summons something (like a stationary thing that attacks and buff us)

give us real staff specials

[tulip kettle]

levitate enemies is interesting

but also kinda meh

seems anti synergistic with most of the game

shotgun blast for an lmb variation is great

same as spray smg

and conflagration seems like it would be confusing and OP

but idk

[pearl viper]

to be fair, several of the staves in dt are also from vt2, like the voidblast staff is literally just the conflagration staff without the fire

[ornate hamlet]

imagine a black hole staff

[tulip kettle]

exactly is blazing trauma not essentially conflagration MK2

black hole staff

very cool

[thorny trail]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f58b09a-8327-4e08-9018-182e0eafaacf/psych-er-you-thought-i-died

Okay, here we are.

[tulip kettle]

opposite of blast

[paper harbor]

You’re creating warp gate for daemon getting in materium

[tulip kettle]

okay now i see your talents build

no weapons curios or anything

[thorny trail]

SOrry, still a nub

[tulip kettle]

so what was the question again sorry

[fierce crest]

we have fireball (voidstrike), flamestorm (inferno), conflagration (voidblast), and soulstealer (electro)
we're missing bolt staff, beam staff, and soruscation staff

[thorny trail]

Yeah, i'm using blaze greatsword. I was trying to see if that build was just kinda redundant or i'm thinking about anything wrong on it by using 3x hp curious instead of toughness. I was hoping that having low toughness would be fine if you're regenerating it and staying at high peril for the "one with teh warp" node

Maximum dmg mitigation

[fierce crest]

and we dont have the m1 from soulstealer anyway

[tulip kettle]

i think you want 3 17% toughness curios

[ornate hamlet]

using the Catachan Mk VII "Devil's Claw" Sword
My condolences

[fierce crest]

but its kinda like assail i guess

[spiral storm]

Low toughness is really bad

[tulip kettle]

with 3x 5% toughness and 3x 5% hp

[spiral storm]

if your toughness is low enough any hit will deal health damage

[tulip kettle]

toughness is better to have than HP

[thorny trail]

sorry, those are just the default weapons

[ornate hamlet]

Oh

[thorny trail]

I'm using bolt pistol and blaze greatsword.

[ornate hamlet]

[tulip kettle]

so, if you are playing a melee class

this tree just kind of sucks for you

[ornate hamlet]

Sigmar, the boy is blessed

[tulip kettle]

you also 100% dont want mind in motion

[thorny trail]

Blitz is ?

[tulip kettle]

and you 100% do want warp rider near the bottom

and as i said before

when it comes to smite

[spiral storm]

Is this going for some kind of melee build?

[tulip kettle]

the 3 nodes underneath it

they go, in order, from best to worst

lightining storm, enfeeble, charged strike

[thorny trail]

Yeah. The goal is to have the most dmg mitigation and playing near higher warp I think, since that seems to have the most toughness mitigation

[spiral storm]

why don't you just run scriers gaze

[tulip kettle]

you almost never want charged strike

because he is newer

and concerned about high peril

[thorny trail]

I was thinking smite for CC to help the team, constantly knocking hordes down and then charged strike for extra cc since i think it stuns enemies?

[tulip kettle]

and you almost always want lightning storm if you are taking smite

[spiral storm]

High peril = good

you want to ride that line of high peril but not explode yourself

very fun

[thorny trail]

I spent one match blocking tons of attacks with blaze great sword and now i wanna do the crazy high peril thing i saw someone mention the first few days i started

[tulip kettle]

okay well

that looks nothing like this

i can show you a build

[thorny trail]

I was hoping it would be mixed so I can do something like blocking tons of dmg to regen my toughness, get high peril from blocking ,turn around and slice up a wave and then dump the peril or something and repeat

But I may have been trying to make like 3 things work at once that dont lol

[thorny trail]

I would appreciate this. I tried to look up a few things, but "tanky psyker build " didn't amount to much and a steam link i found had a bunch of out of date stuff on it

She hungers for the blood of heretics

[spiral storm]

It's impossible to be like "tanky"

as psyker

you can protect and weave

but being truly tanky is usually left to ogryn or zealot or arbitrator

psyker melee kind runs like uuuuuh

[thorny trail]

Well, as tanky as they can be with stuff like one with the warp, essence harvest etc. Though, I guess tanky is wrong and "having self sustain" is probably more accurate

[spiral storm]

you are juiced up on warp power and you run real fast, move real fast, attack, real fast

like you are some dude in an anime and you see all their chakras

so you bob and weave through things

and hit their weakspots for high damage

[thorny trail]

ahhh, like my favorite character

https://tenor.com/view/neji-hyuga-gif-11594681

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f589c10-1a45-4c12-b0e0-e79fc58c2ad2/bubble-squire

[potent echo]

One day we will get unchained in DT...

[tulip kettle]

so, this is a variation on an even faster more difficult to play build

that still leans into your idea of being slightly tankier

[potent echo]

So we can do real tanking and real lmb spam

[thorny trail]

oh lawd recon laz. this should be funny

[ornate hamlet]

true aim is not that great on the reconlas

[tulip kettle]

also note that for the blitz, you could swap this for smite

[thorny trail]

is this like some crazy berzerker half chaos psyker hulk

[tulip kettle]

this is just an intro build

[thorny trail]

Excellent, scriers gazing this right now

[tulip kettle]

we really want to max EE

[potent echo]

It's a psyker equivalent class in their older game VerminTide2

[tulip kettle]

well i would recommend playing first with th bubble

[potent echo]

Any damage they take goes directly to (peril)

[tulip kettle]

and getting used to the idea of raising your peril by blocking attacks and throwing assails

just stay in your bubble and get stuck in

[potent echo]

And blocking quelled (peril)

[tulip kettle]

shoot the gunners and bosses, melee everything else

[thorny trail]

Sorry, that was meant as a joke. Like, I'm "gazing" at it right now

[tulip kettle]

when you are in the bubble you will be generating a shit ton of toughness so it should be relatively forgiving

and if you find yourself not in the bubble

pull out your gun and shoot at stuff

[thorny trail]

I'm kinda in love with bubble though. it's probably my favorite of those abilities. though, the scream feels very cool when you're surrounded and near full peril

[tulip kettle]

to make yourself immune to bullets

[ornate hamlet]

this is my version of gunker, generally i run a knife/dueling sword with this build bc if i was going fgs id prolly go warp splitting

[thorny trail]

Appreciate the help, i'm gonna hop in a match and try this out

[tulip kettle]

i like this for a more experienced player

i think just sticking with lingering influence instead of perfectionism is probably better to start with though as an example

[spiral storm]

These are what I run for gunker builds

[thorny trail]

One of the biggest problems I have is that I started maybe a few days before arbites came out, so i'm used to other people just killing stuff easily a TON. this affected all of my builds, by me forgoing damage perks in favor of getting utility or personal durability stuff.

[tulip kettle]

makes sense

with the build i posted above, with the bubble

you can easily get top damage once you get the hang of it

[vestal trench]

bubble knight's just using the standard gun build but swapping gaze for bubble right?

[tulip kettle]

essentially yes

[spiral storm]

yeah melee psyker/gun psyker is kind of a meme

very strong and still good even at high difficulties like auric and auric maelstrom

[tulip kettle]

its just very punishing

[spiral storm]

but just using a staff that lets you explode the ground and knock over everything over and over and over while setting them on fire is kinda more effective

[tulip kettle]

you make a mistake more serious than getting hit once by a poxwalker and you will go down

[potent echo]

I've been playing bubble FGS and I'm really starting to like the utility

It's also more challenging because I don't trivialise the game with shriek

[tulip kettle]

yeah man though i think thats just because bubble is so mandatory in havoc and fgs is just, so good

wait, no

FGS is shit

buff plz fatshark

[spiral storm]

FGS?

[potent echo]

FGS bad I agree

[tulip kettle]

force great sword

[ornate hamlet]

i wouldnt call this damage meme, H40

[potent echo]

Voidblast also bad

[tulip kettle]

its really bad

[spiral storm]

eh

[tulip kettle]

both marks dont do everything

it doesnt have insane damage and safety

it needs buffs plz

[potent echo]

They need buffs to make them even viable in uprising tbh

[spiral storm]

I personally wouldn't call them bad

[potent echo]

Nuh uh

[tulip kettle]

....

it blows man

just like duelling sword used to

[vestal trench]

fgs special should be mapwide 😔 ✊

[spiral storm]

Last I remember it could reliably heavy a crusher in like 3 hits

[tulip kettle]

or 1 even

but no it cant do that

needs like 20 doinks with a blue hitmarker

definitely needs buffs

[potent echo]

They should give it more range tbh

Like less damage dropoff

But also yea it's poopy

[tulip kettle]

yeah i mean it cant outrange a rager lunge attacking twice at once

so like, its obviously poopoo

[potent echo]

It's simply impossible

[tulip kettle]

imagine

if they gave duelling sword

like, perfectly horizontal l1 l2 combo

and trippled its damage and cleave

[spiral storm]

and also it pierces carapace on lights

[tulip kettle]

now lets be reaosnable

[spiral storm]

and the altfire now staggers bosses

[tulip kettle]

again lets be reaosnable

that would be TOO much

but i think just my suggested changes above, maybe while also increasing its reach

that would be balanced and fine

[fierce crest]

ogryn can do it, that means dueling sword should be able to do it

[spiral storm]

we're talking about buffing dueling sword

[tulip kettle]

errr

yes

certainly

they havent already done this and called it somthing else

[spiral storm]

like

are we memeing or

I'm lost now

[tulip kettle]

the FGS is just that

[spiral storm]

But I thought you called the FGS bad

[potent echo]

No meme we are serious, unless?

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah its trash my dude 🙂

needs buffs

[spiral storm]

I think my bonehead implant isn't working right

[tulip kettle]

i mean

anyone saying its strong or OP or needs looking at

is just wrong

and we wouldnt want Fatshark to get the wrong idea would we?

[spiral storm]

[potent echo]

Did our designated fatshark employee leave yet?

[tulip kettle]

maybe they are always watching...

https://tenor.com/view/roz-monsters-inc-gif-21427129

[static sonnet]

Raaah I fricken love melee psyker

[spiral storm]

I love how fast you run

[static sonnet]

FSG go brrrr

[static sonnet]

I KNOW

[spiral storm]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[potent echo]

Also I had another silent burster yesterday and there were no downed teammates

[tulip kettle]

i literally installed spidey sense today

and since i have done i have had 1 silent burster, they didnt appear on the detector or anything

so i believe it

[fierce crest]

they need to add the full captions setting from l4d

that shouldnt need a mod

[spiral storm]

They add it in

it's your first havoc 40 game since the update

you're looking forward to no longer getting ganked by silent trappers, bombers, dogs

that one poxwalker who has trained his entire life in the arts of stealth to 1 shot a random zeta level psyker's plans have been foiled

life is good

but then it happens

your entire screen goes dark

you don't know what's happening

but a noise gets louder

and louder

AND LOUDER

your eardrums rupture

you cry out in pain

you've lost all sight of what's happening in game

87 mutants have just spawned and has filled your entire screen with just the captaion [Enraged mutant roaring]

You mash the LMB as fast as humanly possible

it's no use

"Did somebody call for a BOOM?"

[rigid iris]

I scream when this happens

[spiral storm]

you burn to death

[tulip kettle]

I AM REEEADDDDYYYYYY

[potent echo]

Yeppers

[rigid iris]

Dog misses a pounce on someone else

Pins you for 0.1 seconds, as a tox flamer opens up

Its over in an instant

[tulip kettle]

i have recently started to pay attention to the enemies background chatter

some of it is hilarious

also

there is weird fucking chanting

like all the time

[potent echo]

Gabe Newell steps out on stage
Raises his hand with three fingers extended

[tulip kettle]

near the corruptors

and you can isolate it and its actual people saying stuff

and its fuckin weird

[rigid iris]

Oh?

[tulip kettle]

BRING THE CHILD

etc

[loud girder]

Corrupters? The demon thing?

[tulip kettle]

men, women, kids, young old

yes the eyes with the tentacles

[loud girder]

Wtf

[tulip kettle]

but the weird sound is like hundreds of voices overlayed with each other

chanting

[loud girder]

Sick

[tulip kettle]

just think its neat

[fierce crest]

i love that the corrupted skulls whisper to you

totems

whatever theyre called

[loud girder]

It gets lost in the chaos lmao never really discerned it

[fierce crest]

the green shooty targets

[tulip kettle]

thats the point

and yes the idols

[fierce crest]

IDOLS

[tulip kettle]

so do the grims

[fierce crest]

yes

[tulip kettle]

theres also just so much cool background scenery

but you never get to appreciate all this stuff cos its so chaotic

ive been trying to focus on it

and yeah even the interactions are great

THEYRE NOT EVEN PROPER SOLDIERS

THEYRE RELOADING, PUSH THEM NOW

[rigid iris]

Oh

[tulip kettle]

SKIN EM ALIVE BOYS

[loud girder]

I ran few uprising missions with friends recently just to run around and look at the maps
Insane amount of detail everywhere

[rigid iris]

Its really sells the scale of a hive city when you stop and look

[loud girder]

Best voice lines are unironically the pox walkers

They sound disturbing

But you never hear them

[tulip kettle]

gribble glaaaAAARGGGH

[loud girder]

They're lucid but also in severe pain

[tulip kettle]

yeah like they moan and complain also

[loud girder]

This game has voice lines that can fit a grim dark horror game sometime but the gameplay doesn't reflect it haha

[rigid iris]

Is it the groaners who occasionally scream "hungry"

[tulip kettle]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Mine is the superior dog

[tulip kettle]

nothing to see here nothing broken or OP at all

move along please

[ripe obsidian]

Nope, totally balanced

Other Arby also had bleed dog, but mine was better

[tulip kettle]

classic

yo this guy keeps shooting stuff once or twice then leaving it, he must not care about the scoreboard at all!

[ripe obsidian]

Truly. The endgame is scoreboard maxing

Just like chasing green circles in VT2 all over again

[sturdy reef]

I felt like I got more value out of my bleed than scoreboard shows?

Im not sure

[ripe obsidian]

How so?

[sturdy reef]

wait no

I misread

735k makes sense lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Your doggo did 900k of your 1600k damage, mine did 1300k of my 2300k damage

[tulip kettle]

dog and bleed is over half the dmg

yeah what he said lol

[sturdy reef]

when nerf

[fierce crest]

congrats you barely did more damage than your dog

[plucky flax]

Hopefully soon

[sturdy reef]

I wanted to test this, but its just gross

lol

[plucky flax]

But fs is slow so probably next week.

[tulip kettle]

its literally like playing with 5 players

so dumb

[ripe obsidian]

No, dog did more damage than me

[sturdy reef]

u mean next patch

not even next week

nor next month

[loud girder]

Bro ain't no way

[sturdy reef]

this shit stayin for a minute

[plucky flax]

This will be fix in a hotfix

[loud girder]

If they keep this thing another day they're goofing

[sturdy reef]

I hope so

I dont wanna path to bleed node any more lol

[wraith sphinx]

lmao couldn't be me

I play dogless arby

[fierce crest]

congrats on your dog

[loud girder]

Arbi nades 😍

[wraith sphinx]

hell yeah

[sturdy reef]

I wanted to test how turbo doubling on dog dps would be

[tulip kettle]

i dont understand them

[wraith sphinx]

5 of them, with vet nade regen?? yes please

[sturdy reef]

absolutely busted

lol

[ripe obsidian]

My dog is a better player than me

[tulip kettle]

what are they for tho

[wraith sphinx]

what, arbites nades?

[tulip kettle]

yes

[wraith sphinx]

they're impact fuse grenades, it should be obvious

[tulip kettle]

it isnt

[wraith sphinx]

hold on to the pin, throw the other part directly at enemies you want deleted

it could not be any simpler

[tulip kettle]

but youre playing arb

everything gets deleted anyway

what the nades for

[wraith sphinx]

nobody's forcing you to use the nade wiseguy

[tulip kettle]

no i know

[fierce crest]

well they didnt realize how much damage the dog would do

[tulip kettle]

im legit asking

like, why do you like the nades?

i feel like everything they kill

just dies anyway when i hit it

so whats the point

[fierce crest]

aoe at any range

[wraith sphinx]

well most often I use nades when I'm boxed in by bulwarks I can't flank easily

[loud girder]

They stagger everything
They're amazing to shred shotgunner packs, maniacs, ragers ect
Insta forceful stacks Regen
Easier rescues

Insta kabooms

[wraith sphinx]

or boxed in by crushers

or there's a boss not dying fast enough

[tulip kettle]

but

you just press whatever the required button is

usually your special attack

or your ability

and who cares about dat

[wraith sphinx]

😒

[tulip kettle]

now all the bulwarks are on the floor anyway and taking 75% bonus dmg

[loud girder]

I mean why use box of boom on ogryn? Just swing pickaxe

The answer is

FUN

[tulip kettle]

right thats obviously different

oh yeah sure

np my dude

[loud girder]

They're fun and versatile that's all really

[wraith sphinx]

you're being dense and reductionist idk what kind of answer did you expect

[tulip kettle]

i find the dog more fun to micro onto stuff and explode

[loud girder]

I throw da kaboom
Enemy go boom
Brain happy

[tulip kettle]

i guess just throwing a grenade doesnt do it for me the same

[loud girder]

I like this one too a lot

Shock mines are also really fun

[thorny trail]

bro

[tulip kettle]

i mean i agree with this too

but they also have a clear other use case

wheras the grenades i just feel like theyre dog but worse

[hollow current]

impacts are great for getting rid of bursters easily

[tulip kettle]

fair enough

[loud girder]

The nades can get silly with auto Regen + being selfish and picking boxes anyway

[fierce crest]

box of boom goes boom

[tulip kettle]

and yes also this

[fierce crest]

and then goes boom again

[tulip kettle]

box of boom ver big boom

[thorny trail]

It was only on damnation, but combat flowed very nicely. i had trouble 1v1 the big armored dudes. like the ogryns with hammers and i think it's carapace armor

[fierce crest]

and then (hear me out) goes boom again

[tulip kettle]

nice! im happy to hear it

[thorny trail]

but it felt good building up peril to about 90, getting to chopping and then weaving in more to keep it up. it added another layer to the gameplay

[tulip kettle]

and yes those are some of the scariest enemies until you get comfortable with them

[loud girder]

You could say it's a box......of boom

[fierce crest]

why do they call it box of boom when it has multiple booms inside it

[tulip kettle]

you just need to get into the loop on the greatsword of chaining overhead heavy attacs

[fierce crest]

deep thoughts with the ogryn

[thorny trail]

Is "cleave" how many enemies you slice through or something?

[tulip kettle]

then you just strike them the fuck down

yes

[loud girder]

They should just call it lunch

[thorny trail]

we ogryn now

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-some-days-just-cant-get-rid-bomb-gif-18735494

[ripe obsidian]

I think that was my first win in like 20 games. I needed the dog to carry me.

[tulip kettle]

its actually a complicated mechanic and theres caps to the amount of enemies you can damage and blah blah blah

but essentially with this when you are at high peril and swinging the L1 L2 combo horizontally

[fierce crest]

yes, each enemy has a "size" and each attack has a "cleave" and your attack goes through enemies until you hit the max cleave

[tulip kettle]

you will chop everything in front of you at least a little bit

then when the armour comes

you do a push attack

then just chain heavies

[plucky flax]

Darktide? More like dogtide.

[tulip kettle]

fax

[ripe obsidian]

Barktide.

[fierce crest]

so if an enemy has 4 "size" and your attack has 15 "cleave" you can go through 4 enemies and your attack stops on the 5th

[ripe obsidian]

Barktide > Dogtide.

[strong gulch]

carfax

it came up dog

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/deez-ha-got-heem-got-em-got-him-gif-4824899

[thorny trail]

That explains why it felt like i was hitting a metal pole a few times lol

[tulip kettle]

hitting a metal pole is not that

hitting a metal pole is when you horizontal swing into a group

[fierce crest]

the big armored guys with the hammer (crushers) have a lot of "size"

[tulip kettle]

and there is carapce armour in it

it makes a doink sound and you get a blue hit marker

[fierce crest]

yeah armor multiplies their size

[thorny trail]

Someones gonna make the joke

[strong gulch]

hit mass

[tulip kettle]

thats when you need to do a push

then start chaining the overhead heavies

overhea the heavy armour guys

[thorny trail]

I like the push with the force great sword. it staggers the really big guys

[tulip kettle]

then go back to your light horizontal swings on the horde sans armour

[fierce crest]

yeah we call "size" hit mass

cuz we like funny terms

[thorny trail]

ahhh, I was wondering wtf hit mass was. saw that mentioned a few places before

[fierce crest]

its beef

[tulip kettle]

different enemies have a different hit mass

[fierce crest]

girth

[tulip kettle]

the bigger they are the higher the number will be

[plucky flax]

Also this was in 22:47 mins. Everyone did over 1 mil

[tulip kettle]

so as above, if you can cleave through 15 mass

thats 10 poxwalkers

but only 1 crusher

[plucky flax]

Kind of a lot of damage for a short game.

[strong gulch]

including dog

[tulip kettle]

balanced

also chaos tell your friend space marine

[thorny trail]

Okay, that makes considering cleave more important going forwards

[tulip kettle]

hes a bitch for joining my havoc 40 rushing ahead solo dying and leaving

we completed it with 3 and a bot

🙂

[plucky flax]

He's not my fren.

I am only friend with 1 arby (The-Fool/Xevra)

[tulip kettle]

im juss jokin man

not that that happened just that its anything to do with you

[strong gulch]

They should bring back old hab dreyko as a havoc modifier.

All of the ragers and armor spawning at the end. Where were they the whole mission??

[tulip kettle]

as in the layout of the end event?

[strong gulch]

idk but they are here now

[strong gulch]

that and the fecked up spawn rates

[tulip kettle]

im ngl i havent noticed

apart from it was millions of ragers and shotgunners on the stairs earlier

[strong gulch]

regular dam doing nearly a mil damage

not even auric

[tulip kettle]

waow

[strong gulch]

no this was before havocs

[tulip kettle]

oh you mean theres like no spawns now?

[strong gulch]

old hab used to be fairly empty up until the end event where it basically saved the spawns that should have been throughout the mission but dumped them all at the end while you're trying to find the scans

[tulip kettle]

oh i see

[hollow current]

I think I have video of old drako. It just kept spawning. tho there was times when it'd get even worse and just keep spawning elites as quickly as they died for the whole event. had that happen twice but never caught on record.

[tulip kettle]

i see what you mean

idk it was much better like that

dreyko as a whole is so underwhelming now imo

but also have you considered

[strong gulch]

puke tree

[tulip kettle]

that people are just better now

and its doing the same spawns people just kill it quicker

not saying that is the case

but could be pat of it

[strong gulch]

probably

old hab was harder for sure tho

[ripe obsidian]

Old Hab was hell with randoms

[tulip kettle]

especially with the unavoidable DH before the dropdown 🙂

[strong gulch]

I there were 2 unavoidable ones unless you knew move tech

[tulip kettle]

yes

[strong gulch]

or jump puzzle

[tulip kettle]

many a time was spent pinging railing

doing jump back and forward

NO LIKE THIS YOU IMBECILES

[ripe obsidian]

This is a fascinating Purgatus build.

[tulip kettle]

erm

where did you get it

[strong gulch]

you'd think that's piss the DH off more with all of the jumping than tiptoe nearby

[tulip kettle]

is it yours?

[ripe obsidian]

Some guy in an H40 lobby I am not joining.

It is not mine.

[tulip kettle]

its ok dude we get it its "for a friend"

[ripe obsidian]

"Fascinating" is a polite way to say, "look at this abomination"

[tulip kettle]

you dont need to be shy Six we were all terrible at making builds once

this is a safe space

[ripe obsidian]

My terrible builds are largely based around Scrier's Gaze nonsense

[strong gulch]

eviscerated

[ripe obsidian]

My builds are fine. It's my playing that's terrible. :D

[strong gulch]

me

especially today

outside of the buill shit

I recorded some of our games and I wasn't playing like I normally would.

And my normal is mid

[tulip kettle]

its okay we all have good days and bad days

it literally doesnt matter at all

i enjoyed playing with you yesterday

[strong gulch]

Thanks! It was fun

It does matter in a cognitive function tracking way. I def getting a migraine soon.

[tulip kettle]

ooof.

change bedsheets and bath if you still feel up to it

prepare for the next few days to hibernate as much as possible

[strong gulch]

I can hardly do those on a good day.

ALSO MY RICE COOKER TRIED TO GASLIGHT ME

[tulip kettle]

hah likewise!

...

[strong gulch]

I tried to get it to work and it was acting weird. My partner goes to check and it worked for him.

😠

[tulip kettle]

heard that a million times

its efinitely the machine that decided to enact its free will and selectively operate to gaslight you

nothing else to see here no point dwelling on the past move along

[strong gulch]

hit start and weird beeping noises that I've never heard
tries again with the same result
partner hits button and it works
partner performs a confused shrug

[tulip kettle]

you just need to press the button 3 times obviously

[ripe obsidian]

I went into an Auric Mortis to penance farm on Arby. Immediately upon spawning, literally six pogryns start stomping on me.

[tulip kettle]

and you clutched it

because you are forged in the fires of havoc

[strong gulch]

sounds like the old radar cabinets I used to work on

[ripe obsidian]

No, I died before I finished loading in

I couldn't even move

[tulip kettle]

ouch

[nocturne dust]

1. Die
2. Load In
3. ....
4. Profit?

[strong gulch]

[tulip kettle]

if you get to see textures of the map before the defeat screen

that counts and its clearly just a skill issue

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, then it was a skill issue

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/0zotEoGQP14

Glad to know I have no skill issue

[tulip kettle]

close though

few seconds earlier and youd have had no excuse

[nocturne dust]

Razor thin line between skill and issue

[tulip kettle]

indeed

gnight all

[ripe obsidian]

God natt

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sweet-dreams-homer-the-simpsons-hush-now-sleep-sweet-pillow-gif-17824844

[ripe obsidian]

I've cranked my graphics down. Let's see if that helps.

You'd think a 3080 could run this game stably

[nocturne dust]

That makes it laggier for me

[sturdy reef]

my graphics are basically as low as can be

@wet charm u have an oggy?

[ornate hamlet]

The real revelation is finding out that the game just runs like dookie poopoo anyway

I turned off ambient occlusions and shadows and it's straight up zero difference

[strong gulch]

Path trying to optimize his game. 😭

iirc he gave up

[ornate hamlet]

You'd think being above the recommended specs would be enough

[plucky flax]

This game just runs like ass.

I have stutter with a beefy pc.

[ornate hamlet]

I have the recommended processor and a 6750 XT

Why can I not run the game with the hardware they recommend

[plucky flax]

(The mods also make it run worse. 😭 )

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe they should add basic QoL so we didn't have to run mods

[plucky flax]

I played like shit got carried by my dog. It did 2.4x more damage than my melee and range damage. Xd

[strong gulch]

Dogs saving the team

[plucky flax]

Dog did 1.2 mil I did 500k.

Bullied by my dawg.

[loud girder]

Game runs good just play heresy only

Imagine optimizing for higher diffs xdddd

[plucky flax]

I get smoother gameplay in havoc compared to auric.

I dunno why.

[sturdy reef]

sus

[analog verge]

does malleus monstronum (the do 50% of a monstrositys health with brain burst) penance actually need you to get the killing blow

[plucky flax]

Fartshart magic.

[analog verge]

please tell me the description just lies

[loud girder]

My game tanks to unplayable level with havoc numbers

[plucky flax]

Do you use mods? If you have weapon customisation that mod kills fps hard.

Each update of that mod also makes performance worse just like with each FS's patch.

[deft stump]

Yes from all the assists I have helped. It risks failure if the bot stole the last hit.

So I usually suggest BBing like 60% down then slowing to try to get the last hit. All runs where the psyker gets the last hit is a success.

[plucky flax]

That's too hard.

Just bb it for 100% hp instead.

[deft stump]

If the bots potato first, yes.

But sometimes they be like cockroaches.

[plucky flax]

Kill them.

[ornate hamlet]

🪳

[plucky flax]

Play auric.

[deft stump]

I CBA to duo aurics. I can try to solo Heresy if the psyker can't play the diff but nope at aurics.

[plucky flax]

They found unsanctioned
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1lv9qlv/if_you_have_to_hard_carry_the_team_dont_belittle/

[gray juniper]

You’re trash talking the wee people? I never would’ve assumed it

[plucky flax]

I'm not unsanctionedpsyker I just got flamed by him.

[gray juniper]

No you’re downplaying yourself so much. You were having a field trip scouting for materials in that match we played on inferno auric

[gray juniper]

This unsanctioned psyker is much less scrupulous than I assumed. I shake my head disdainfully

[deft stump]

I was just blind. Also arby is busted enough to run around anyway. I wouldn't be doing that on vet there.

[gray juniper]

You played bet the two matches before just fine

[ripe obsidian]

Even OP doggo is not enough to carry some games.

[deft stump]

Shush. Still a little paper thing I more had to nyoom about on.

[ripe obsidian]

Ended up last man standing versus twins and a captain in the Logistratum tunnel

[gray juniper]

Ok ok

[plucky flax]

Abuse dog more.

[deft stump]

Nu puppo aboose.

[plucky flax]

Abuse the dog on heretics.

Not dog abusing.

[ripe obsidian]

I'm trying. D:

But I am having bad luck with teams, and I need the dog to carry me

[plucky flax]

You have to make calculation.

Draw a line between 2 elites and make the dog jump between.

Xd

[ripe obsidian]

I do

Which is why the dog has more damage than me

[deft stump]

That's telling puppo to go play.

[elfin merlin]

what stat do i dump on force greatsword

[strong gulch]

WR

warp resist

[elfin merlin]

goddamn i dumped defense

[strong gulch]

rip

[elfin merlin]

now i have to spend like another 100k on brunt armoury

and another 500 dia thingy

[elfin merlin]

what variant is superior tho

[strong gulch]

Either for FGS.

Moveset preference

[elfin merlin]

what about normal force sword

what to dump and which variant

[plucky flax]

Just dump warp resist and call it a day.

[strong gulch]

WR for all force weapons except VS (voidstrike) VS dumps blast radius

[elfin merlin]

also is normal attack with force sword count as non warp attack

[strong gulch]

yeah

[deft stump]

Gotta stroke them first.

[strong gulch]

the special and PA (push attack) on force swords and FGS are warp, but the regular lights and heavies are not

[elfin merlin]

okay

[plucky flax]

Karien stop stroking your illusy

[strong gulch]

I wish the other FS also stroked like illisi

[elfin merlin]

which variant for normal fsword

[strong gulch]

all WR

each mk has their own uses

most overlap is obscurus and deimos

[elfin merlin]

clarify

[plucky flax]

Why don't you check them out in meatgrinder?

It's free to change mark.

[strong gulch]

Try them in the meant grinder.

[elfin merlin]

it's not free to upgrade

[strong gulch]

they each have different move sets

[plucky flax]

I said it's free to change marks.

You don't have to upgrade it.

Just change to other variant and test them.

[strong gulch]

it's free to change the mks

you need mastery I think to unclock them all

illisi is hordes

deimos is single target

obscurus has both

[deft stump]

Rejected. Is the only reason I use the Illisi anyway.

[plucky flax]

Don't call me a reject I already know.

[deft stump]

I think everyone's a reject though barring the mary and marty stus in general acting like they are Commissars and such.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

Hrm?

[plucky flax]

IM SORRY

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/chika-suggestive-eyebrows-thats-what-she-said-gif-19348690

[elfin merlin]

WR or Mobility dump on FS

[strong gulch]

WR

on all force weapons

VS is the only one with a different dump (which is blast radius)

[elfin merlin]

why not mobility tho

[strong gulch]

dump recs in the 2nd pin

[quartz barn]

Because lower warp resist is better for warp related skills

[elfin merlin]

eugh

ok

[strong gulch]

80 WR either offers the least impact or it is actively helpful to lower WR

[elfin merlin]

i'm so broke rn

[crisp lily]

Same

[marble crater]

Nice, good luck getting used to the sticks

[gray juniper]

Ty ty. The buttons are so good. The direction pad is a bit high and mushy for my taste but everything else is excellent. Honestly I’m having trouble deciding how to set up the button configuration best

I switched sprint and slide from the stick press and B button to the underside pads which is a huge improvement

[marble crater]

That works, I couldn't get used to it, combat ability and blitz was easy to get used to though

And using them without taking fingers off sticks is nice

@deft stump what are you using your extra buttons for?

[copper jay]

@marble craterWhat is the ideal character height to play with DS4 ?

I read stories about people being kicked to be a max height Psyker

[marble crater]

People are being kicked for height now? Damn

And I don't know, My characters are like 75 - 80% max height or so I think, it's 35 ticks down from the top, I felt that was good for melee without needing to look up or down to hit heads

[glacial vapor]

Is it challenging to aim slightly higher?

The only enemy I could think were this is a problem is the Plague Ogryn. The easiest boss in the game...

Tall bastid

[marble crater]

Not really, just slightly annoying I guess and depending on just how much higher you have to look and how much reach and cleave your weapon has, you might miss a head in the second or third row of enemies maybe because of how angles work

[potent echo]

I think with most attacks being stabs it's not that important to have height

Although being too short might be an issue

[marble crater]

Taller is easier to hit elites, but I think max height looks silly
Small looks fun for gremlin energy, but harder to see elites in a horde

[plucky flax]

I tend to be 80~90 height for all humans

[loud girder]

max height all the way

[copper jay]

LETS GO MAX HEIGHT

[marble crater]

Hope you weren't trying to hide behind things

[copper jay]

I mean with the bubble and the mobility of DS4 this seems not THAT needed

[loud girder]

cover is not real in this game

[marble crater]

It is, it's just not as good as we wish

[copper jay]

Psyker has the best tool against max height no ? I mean bubble, deflector on force swords

[blissful solar]

do you mean with/for max height

[marble crater]

I guess, it honestly doesn't matter too much, just pick what you want based on whatever you want

[copper jay]

Yes

[potent echo]

I actually used cover once yesterday

[copper jay]

The best cover are your teamates

[potent echo]

Felt very immersive

[copper jay]

(Ogryn)

[plucky flax]

I hide behind my dog

Dogmeat for real

[marble crater]

Has anyone ever used the vet cover mechanic to shoot from behind it?

[glacial vapor]

Like... Once

"Oh yeah, I can do that"

[upper sun]

vet has cover mechanics?

[strong gulch]

Levitation staff when? Lift bulwarks and crushers into friendly fire to be our shield.

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Lift them in front the line of fire, so they can't shoot the trapper and get trapped and die

[upper sun]

🚬 mass effect in 2012 had mechanics for lift and push where you could rip shields from enemies

[strong gulch]

Only for headshot nerds

More play mass effect propaganda

[marble crater]

I should play Mass Effect after I am finished with BG3

[potent echo]

When we getting element combos in darktide

[plucky flax]

Play me2 and3

Skip 1.

Like me.

[marble crater]

Like Divinity and BG3? Wet and Elektro for stun

Oil and fire, big boom

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

1 is too outdated.

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384148775777337366/1392214058949808148/Mass_EffectTM_Legendary_Edition_2025.07.08_-_20.40.59.02.png?ex=686f60a1&is=686e0f21&hm=5031ed5378f03bf14cd16ce70cb9c240ab09122e99573801da4ad54285b23b0e&

were still saving ash right?

[plucky flax]

The combat sucks.

[marble crater]

Play the Legendary edition, or whatever it's called

[upper sun]

every class other than soldier is bad in ME1

[marble crater]

Nah

[upper sun]

biotic powers dont do shit

[marble crater]

They throw enemies away from where you are aiming

[upper sun]

but tbh i still recommend playing ME1

if you optimize your time you can finish it quick

just use a save editor to max out the collectables

[strong gulch]

Watch a let's play of me1 then play the others?

[upper sun]

noooooo

play adapt in ME1 and use commands to lower your ability cooldown to zero to make the combat not suck

[strong gulch]

[upper sun]

@marble crater my laptop from 2016 can run ME3 on an external harddrive

im pretty sure you can start up me1 on your pc

so you can edit your save and still play it on gamepass

[strong gulch]

His new pc with window 95

[upper sun]

🤔

[strong gulch]

Doing a goof

[marble crater]

Rude, my new PC was a really good upgrade, for me

I also have the Legendary Edition on Xbox anyway, so I will just play it there obviously

[strong gulch]

I was rude. True

[elfin flower]

I feel like this doesn't need to be private only anymore

[strong gulch]

I think about the windows 95 screen savers a lot. Some of them were great. Others were nightmare fuel.

[upper sun]

🪄 wosh you want to cheat in single player games 🪄

[marble crater]

The tubes?

[upper sun]

the flesh caves

[marble crater]

No, it removes all the fun for me and then I don't play anymore

[upper sun]

the story is good and besides im just asking you to increase your sprint speed and set collectables to 19/20 so you only need one to finish the quest

and also biotic powers are useless removing the cooldown makes them playable

[hearty wolf]

If you play less of the game, it makes more of the game

[upper sun]

🚬

lets see you scan, land on, drive on, play mini games 4x times on 100 planets

lets see YOU finish the collectables ethically

[hearty wolf]

Oh yeah you had to actually probe properly in ME1 and 2

I forgot about that

[upper sun]

🚬 see

im only advocating for cheating in ME1

[hearty wolf]

My brother made me do it for him and said I was "Playing the game"

[upper sun]

lmao

[hearty wolf]

But he just made me a probe bot 😭😭

[upper sun]

hes so real

[hearty wolf]

He did it for me in WoW too

I was the gold farming bot

[upper sun]

call the police

[hearty wolf]

Until I accidentally killed the NPC I was selling to

[upper sun]

slavery needs to be abolished 😭

[hearty wolf]

😭

[marble crater]

I turned my brother into a exp farming and money making bot in Fable 1

[hearty wolf]

God

I played Fable 3

I think it might have been the most dog shit game I have ever played

I think it's the first game I ever played and was like "Holy shit. This is BORING."

I literally don't even remember why I disliked it so much

I hardly remember the game xd

[marble crater]

Each Fable got worse than the previous ones, I hope the next one is actually good, at least it will be on Gamepass and I won't have to buy it in case it's bad

[hearty wolf]

😭

Dead Island was insanely fun for me on the sticks because

I had a hacker drop me a shotgun with 99999999999 rounds in the mag

And it absolutely obliterated things

Was v.funny

Gib and gore everywhere

Maybe I should turn my blood up to max in darktide and watch my pc explode 🤔

[cold geode]

It will. Blood and other effects on targets cause the biggest fps hit

[potent echo]

The next fable 😳

I don't think it's happening..

[hearty wolf]

I can't even run the game already

How bad could it be

[plucky flax]

Get rog ally x

[marble crater]

I'm not buying a 700€ handheld

[dusky bear]

love when i join a mortis trial on wave 8 and it instantly surrounds me with ragers, then when it ends it gives me a 30 second timer to pick a bunch of perks, but auto selects them after 15 seconds

[gray juniper]

Congrats your getting a penance

[dusky bear]

nah

[cold geode]

But a 1200 iphone is fine right?

[hearty wolf]

I have my steam deck

I use it for about 20h a year

And bought the 1tb oled for reasons

(It's purely for surviving long flights)

[gray juniper]

Not even comparable though

[hearty wolf]

My phone is probably the cheapest electronic thing I have

[gray juniper]

Smart phone is a pocket secretary/accountant/calculator/encyclopedia/newsstand etc

[zinc comet]

That’s a weird response regardless

[marble crater]

Don't have that either, so

[zinc comet]

Me when I bring up something from nowhere

[marble crater]

My android was 300€ I think

[dusky bear]

one is a game console you have to pay for in one payment. the other is basically an essential you need for ever day life in the modern world that almost always is payed for over time along with a normal phone bill.

how are these related in any way?

[plucky flax]

Yeah with so many ai powered apps now it's based

Just ask ai for help with work. Xd

[potent echo]

You should be asking AI for help at work

[gray juniper]

Folks out here are dead ass asking chatgpt to do their job now. I’m not saying it’s great work but, it’s working I guess?

[hearty wolf]

Yuh

[potent echo]

If an AI could do your work without you then well..

[hearty wolf]

Mines a bit more expensive

Google Pixel 7a

Oh wow just checked the prices, it's dirt cheap

[marble crater]

Poco F3 for me, it does what I want it to do and that's good enough for me, I don't need a phone with the best camera, because I don't take any pictures

[hearty wolf]

I basically just steal my dad's phone or my gf's phone if I need a picture

My phone is for using discord while I take a shit

And watching YouTube at denizen hours

[marble crater]

my brother's phone is the go to for pictures

[gray juniper]

Talk like this is how people got forced back into the office after 2021

You can’t take the machines’ side

[marble crater]

I'm also not the age anymore where I care about "oh no, the kids might bully me because I don't have the new phone" couldn't care less

[deft stump]

The respective stick clicks. XD

[gray juniper]

Same! Hard to maneuver

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

Before I was stopping mid stride and crouching before being downed

[hearty wolf]

Aiming up means you're not looking at the floor

And looking at the floor has the benefit of realising you're stepping on crushers because someone cc'd one underneath you

Or that silent dog who ran through an entire horde of soulblaze pox walkers and don't want to jump anyone until they're in melee

[gray juniper]

The dog can’t jump me if my sword never stops moving

[glacial vapor]

Ah yes, my favourite..no time to react

[marble crater]

You should set your input to "Raw" in the software and increase your sensitivity, it will be fun, right @deft stump?

[deft stump]

So yeah, they are pretty decent things. And tbh, I'm used to the 360 Dpad so they aren't as mushy to me. XD

[hearty wolf]

Laughs in warp dog

That's what the sword captain makes you think

[marble crater]

laughs in my own dog

[hearty wolf]

"If I stand behind it, it can't hit me"

[deft stump]

Once you get used to it, is worth.

[plucky flax]

Thats me im sry

[gray juniper]

Jokes aside I saw reviews suggesting to change the input to raw. Is that what you seriously suggest? I tried it in the app. Seemed less responsive

[marble crater]

I have mine at raw, but don't increase your sensitivity at the same time

[gray juniper]

I’ll do it then

[deft stump]

Need to set the deadzone to near min then mess with ingame sens.

[marble crater]

Or do, to see why you shouldn't

[deft stump]

At least a 3, imo.

Higher is taste.

[marble crater]

I'm not young enough for the highest anymore

[gray juniper]

I changed the stick curve to dynamic hoping to get more “whip” out of the controls. I’ll change it back to exponential and try those settings instead

[paper oriole]

Need to work on these joints man

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

It’s crazy how different the game looks using these new sticks and raising the sensitivity some

[paper oriole]

People be playing sports competitively while 40

[deft stump]

I use linear so can't help you there. Is why ppl who ded keep pointing out I'm on controller.

[marble crater]

Most people don't, what's your point

[gray juniper]

Yea then they retire to the home for concussions or missing knees

[marble crater]

Increase your FOV

[potent echo]

They can also afford millions of dollars to pay for Tommy John surgeries

[gray juniper]

I already did that O__O

[deft stump]

Is why we suggested it. Dpad not withstanding, they have really nice sticks and face buttons/triggers.

[paper oriole]

Point is that is possible if you try a bit 😛
Some stretches and mobility stuff works wonders, speaking from experience

[deft stump]

Turn on hair trigger btw.

[potent echo]

Very privileged take

[gray juniper]

Yea D-pad is a bit too high and kind of mushy. Still usable

[deft stump]

For right trigger.

[gray juniper]

Done! Excellent feature

[paper oriole]

Most don’t and still be more able then 80% of population

[gray juniper]

Your definition of competitive is probably pretty wide

[deft stump]

Left is to taste. Right is gud stuff.

[marble crater]

It's not a mobility issue

[marble crater]

No

[gray juniper]

I did both. My fingers are resting in their Lay-z-boys now lol

[marble crater]

But I guess I can shorten my trigger distance some

[deft stump]

Is why I say it's like the 360 dpad, iffy and mushy thing... generally okay if you don't play fighting games.

[deft stump]

Oh, lul. I only have it for right. Easier to panic quickdraw.

[gray juniper]

Yea it’s good I don’t. Marvel and capcom was the peak of that for me. I haven’t in years

[paper oriole]

Yes, speaking about top 1% is just boring and unrealistic but amateur play is by definition competitive as well as lower leagues

[plucky flax]

Top 1%

[paper oriole]

F
😦

[gray juniper]

No that’s the unsanctioned psyker guy

He won’t sign autographs either apparently

[deft stump]

Ah. But yeah, gud stuff.

[plucky flax]

I'll flame him