psyker-class

[brazen light]

oh nice

[cunning plinth]

you can get a mean little fire build going with the voidblast too if you go with the "fire stacks on crit" blessing, BUT, dont do that yet, because the "max stacks" you can get go up with that blessing and fire damage scales non linearly where each stack does more damage than the last, so thats a rare case of the lvl4 blessing actually being MUCH better than the lvl 3 blessing

[cunning plinth]

but you unlock "every" perk in no time anyway, in fact, the game forces you to since you need to spend points to unlock higher level blessings

[brazen light]

im glad my mastery baord does not look like that after i was told to spec into warp next and blazing, along w warp flurry and shockwave

[cunning plinth]

the system is set up so that you "generally" dont have to worry about it

[potent echo]

Yea just click all the buttons

[strong gulch]

you can play fire VB fine with T3 blazing spirit

[potent echo]

[strong gulch]

If you have that and want to play it now.

[brazen light]

so what do i go for like actually

[strong gulch]

Get T4 later.

[potent echo]

On what weapon, voidblast?

[brazen light]

yea

[proper osprey]

I still can’t play vb

[potent echo]

Warp nexus, the soulblaze one, brittle, warp flurry

[zinc comet]

Right now you don’t go for anything

[proper osprey]

Only way I can is with gaze

[potent echo]

You can just focus on these

[cunning plinth]

flurry and brittle for leveling, but, you can re-bless them for very cheap any time

[potent echo]

Since you need to level them evenly anyway

[cunning plinth]

like, genuinly,. dont worry about it

[potent echo]

You can choose any of the 4 they work well

[paper harbor]

look back this old feats, make you feel old.

[cunning plinth]

fat shark went through a lot of effort and questionable UI design so that this system essentually boils down to "dont worry about it and play with the staff"

[potent echo]

Away

[brazen light]

what talents

[strong gulch]

Meta is flak + crit chance and nexus + blazing spirit

Other great pick is flak + cara and rending shockwave + flurry

If you don't know what to pick, go with the meta pick.

[potent echo]

Flak maniac is the default for every weapon if you don't wanna think

[strong gulch]

except on VB

[cunning plinth]

doesnt matter yet at your level, experiment a little, venting shriek and warp charges recommended

tip for psyker as its unintuitive, you stay alive, take less damage and do more damage by generating and quelling peril and being at HIGH peril, you bascally want peril throughput, you want your number to be high but dump and generate as much as you can in the meantime, so try to not get into the habit of being scared of high peril, (make peril less loud in your Interface settings (peril FX))

if you are new its easy to get into a bad habit of psyker where you have no damage reduction because you dont have peril because you dont have one with the warp active, and you dont regenerate a lot of toughness because youa rent building and spending peril and getting warp kills and then the class just feels awkward to play

[brazen light]

when can i link pictures btw

[strong gulch]

when u get red name

keep chatting

[brazen light]

which one makes you get more dmg and take less by quelling, i think i saw it before

[cunning plinth]

genuine tip, just to get used to it, play venting shriek with creeping flames, every time venting shriek is back up, overload on peril intentionally and then save yourself from the "brain explosion" animation by pressing shriek, just to become comfortable with casting at high periil

[potent echo]

Just know that game is still more massively skill based than build based so you don't need to worry about screwing up like in other games

[brazen light]

i played the game quite a bit in the beta, so i know to get high peril to vent and stuff, but havent gotten the quelling peril for dmg and damage res

[strong gulch]

you don't have to overload, but it can get an extra cast off

if you're in the overload / "i'm gonna explode" animation and you get grabbed by like a dog or mutant, you will insta explode

[marble crater]

The amount of times I intentionally overload for that extra cast is too high, I'm convinced my team thinks I'm a noob who can't manage his peril

[brazen light]

damb

[strong gulch]

I don't know of a talent that gives you a damage boost from quelling. There's Quietude that give you toughness when quelling.

There's Warp Rider that give you more damage if you are at higher peril.

There's One with the Warp that gives you TDR (toughness damage reduction) as peril increases.

[cunning plinth]

the red talents generate toughness either for building, quelling peril, or kiling something with warp damage, or critting, basically, staying alive by attacking stuff with warp stuff constantly, thats the core of your toughness regen and it regenerates a fuckton.
the green talents either give you flat damage or flat damage reduction (up to 30%) by just "having" high peril, they are one of the reaons you want your peril high constantly. (that, and peril quell speed is faster the higher your peril is, and as we discussed, quelling peril is also good), the yellow talents make you stay alive by critting. the top one gives you toughness, the bottom one makes you, for every crit you get, basically fully immune to any dodgable ranged damage as it makes you count as doding

playing psyker is a lot like running, you are falling forwards and the only thing that keeps your face away from the dirt is the next step 😄

so for example, fuckload of gunners about to unload in the back, poxwalker hoard in front of me, how do i stay alive? run away? depends on cover, ideally instead you lay into the poxwalker group with something that generates crits so that as long as you are hitting the dudes and critting, you are immune. thats one of the reasons why a lot psyker builds spec into crit and why "generating less peril" is typically not ideal

[proper osprey]

Psyker suffers from a vermintide issue

3 trash ranged enemies will kill you

[cunning plinth]

on that note, as fatshark i think didnt intend for the psyker to just permanently edge their peril meter in the deep red, you get violently ear molested constantly if you do that, for some reason, the setting to turn that off is NOT in the audio settings but in the interface settings

[proper osprey]

But an entire screen full of enemies won’t

[marble crater]

True

[summer prairie]

initially venting peril made you take damage, like in v2

[cunning plinth]

3 basic gunners in a triangle around me will actually kinda fuck me up, realistically, as long as i have stuff to hit or crit i wont die

[marble crater]

That seems unfair

[proper osprey]

True not as bad as before but only really happen with vb for me tbh

For some reason vb with venting just wasn’t working but as soon as I went gaze it was game breaking

[potent echo]

It still should

[chrome linden]

how does empathic evasion work?

[zinc comet]

As stated

Get a crit and for 1s you the game acts like you are dodging bullets

[marble crater]

(doesn't trigger dodge blessings)

[chrome linden]

so i just dont get hit by ranged for 1s?

[marble crater]

Yes

[chrome linden]

neeter spageeter

[marble crater]

Pick it with inferno or on gunker and you will have a good time

[chrome linden]

i dont know what those words mean

im new to psycher

[sterile steppe]

So for greatsword, is the crit chance perk useful? compared to say....Carapace, and elite?

[zinc comet]

Crit never bad on psyker

[strong gulch]

Keep unyielding and cara over crit chance perks on FGS. They give more.

[strong gulch]

inferno = fire staff

gunker = gun psyker

[sterile steppe]

Thought it should be Carapace and Elite

[strong gulch]

no

[sterile steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhB3gxPV3hU

[strong gulch]

I have seen that combo on specific setups for a specific FGS mk.

[potent echo]

Unyielding is a must have

[potent echo]

Is this without DD

[strong gulch]

HOWEVER, cara + unyeilding is overall more consistent and works great on all builds.

[potent echo]

And malefic

And warp rider

[sterile steppe]

whats DD?

[potent echo]

And unstable

[sterile steppe]

and prob?

[potent echo]

Right bottom keystone

If I have enough active buffs carapace doesn't do anything for me

[marble crater]

Check pins for abbreviations

[potent echo]

But also neither does any other perk

[sterile steppe]

What is Malefic

[potent echo]

Malefic momentum is right side talent

Get up to 20% warp and non-warp damage

Or 25% I forgor

[sterile steppe]

Ah!...but you have to get warp kills, then your weapon can do normal....etc

that seems very situational

I can see Warp rider, and DD

[potent echo]

I have assail it's always active (when it matters)

[sterile steppe]

Disrupt Destiny.

what perks? Precog and Wrath? Or Ripost?

[potent echo]

I personally take unstable and ripost

Depends on your build

Wrath precog riposte are all great

[sterile steppe]

when it says successful dodge.....what does that mean? just a dodge, or does it need to be a perfect time dodge?

[potent echo]

As long as you dodge an attack

Ranged attacks count

So it's free

[sterile steppe]

OH! so...the snipers or the gunners having that flash, counts?

[potent echo]

It's finicky but you should have it up more than 50% of the time in a fight

Yea

As long as you dodge there's a high chance you are dodging something in a horde

Empathic doesn't proc dodge talents as mentioned earlier

[long vessel]

Can someone link an inferno build?

[potent echo]

Check pins

[waxen ember]

Any good electro staff builds? 🙂

[strong gulch]

I like ryken's math content, but he often suggests funny builds. They are often thematic and for his fun.

But realistically most people do not take kinetic presence because it doesn't provide meaningful break points. Also hyperphocusing on only crushers or only unyielding enemies and FGS is likely gonna be your solution for both. He even said so in the vid. His recs also focus on precog which a lot of people struggle to use. Not everyone of course. Only have 2 seconds to weakspot a target on a slow hitting weapon is sus; and that's if something was targeting you to get the dodge.

But also pointed out, DD wasn't used.

[sterile steppe]

Ya, I saw that precog, while super good....its only 2 seconds, and then you have to get the 2 heavy hits in, its iffy, but that 60% dmg, is huge though
So I am wondering, how feasible that would be

[potent echo]

It's not really 60% damage

[strong gulch]

Some do it fine, but if you don't have agro or the enemy is CCd you won't get the oppotunity.

[potent echo]

(fatshark damage calculation sounds)

It's closer to 30%

Still alot

I actually don't know FGS finesse modifiers

[sterile steppe]

Right, I meant 60% of the....finess whatever modifiere, not sure how that is calculated, but finess, is dealing with headshot and crit right? so if you get a good hit, that sounds like something super good, even 30% its insane if stacked. in any other game...if you told me, this one thing, give you 30% headshot, and also crit dmg multiplier....I would say that is busted OP.

[potent echo]

It's pretty good for bossing

Someone tested riposte vs precog on a duellingsword vs plagryn in psykanium

It's more or less same

[pine shore]

two actually

One lmb one rmb

I remember I used something like this for lmb surge staff

https://i.vgy.me/uDYqY9.png

For staff you get +crit chance flak
Surge warp nexus

[upper sun]

@marble crater if i break up with her she fucking dies

[marble crater]

So don't break up, you monster

[upper sun]

I have to

[pine shore]

break her

[upper sun]

im 90% sure the canon ending is with liara

[marble crater]

Don't be a slave to canon, smh

[upper sun]

its ok i looked up a guide i can string her along until after she gets fucking shot

once shes healthy i can break it off

[marble crater]

[restive slate]

Is Gunpsyker build bis gun still the same?

[strong gulch]

Vraks 5, recon (faster fire rate has better EE and mettle up time), laspistol are the top picks.

Other good options too, but those are the main ones.

[hearty wolf]

I want to kill something

I want to get a trapper net gun

And trap a trapped

Then let me dog rip its legs off

[marble crater]

in game, right?

[hearty wolf]

[strong gulch]

Sleepless Sin has gone feral.

[stone anchor]

Buff psyker

One day we will be the strongest

I believe in our strength

Be one with the warp

[marble crater]

Imagine if vet, zealot and psyker had trees like ogryn and arby

[sterile steppe]

So...For Distrubuted Destiny, if your teammates kill the marked target, do you get that buff still?

[stone anchor]

Poor vet
5 skills points for one talent(arbi)

Everyone’s trees need updated

Updating *

[sterile steppe]

what about arbiter?

[stone anchor]

Priority should be other classes who desperately need it

[marble crater]

No

[stone anchor]

Vet hasn’t gotten anything for the longest

[quartz barn]

No, but this isnt a dealbreaker

[stone anchor]

Zealot needs minor things

[sterile steppe]

but, for Distributed Destiny, the marks....do you have to kill them? or can just the team kill them?

[sterile steppe]

Ah! but will the team know that it is your target?

[marble crater]

No

[sterile steppe]

Do they see the glowing thing or what?

AH!

[quartz barn]

Marked target always spawns in your line of sight and reappears nearly instantly

[sterile steppe]

good for ranged builds....but if melee, its a bit harder

[marble crater]

That's why: Assail

[quartz barn]

Still not too bad

[strong gulch]

You manipulate DD markings by looking away from a badly positioned one to better positioned valid target. After a few seconds, the DD mark will change.

[hearty wolf]

I've gone through the other side now

I was SO tired that I feel strangely lucid now

I feel like I can flyyyyyy

[marble crater]

Second wind

good luck

[zinc phoenix]

The whining would continue but for og and arbie

“Touch us, touch us obese fish” 🙏

[hearty wolf]

I think Zealot's ult need to be reworked personally

Even if the tree was better

Shroudfield is cringe

Chorus is boring as fuck

And chastise is kind of janky compared to BTL

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-goty-game-of-the-year-tarnished-jumpscare-gif-27608439

[waxen ember]

cheers, Ill try this 🙂

[potent echo]

I only have 200 levels of zealot and i still have issues targetting with chastise honestly

unless theres nothing inbetween us

[summer prairie]

This is all void bleed (power di can track this but instead of attributing it to a player it attributes it to the defender, I guess)

was a run with two arbis with the talent

[potent echo]

[summer prairie]

Here's another with just Agent having the talent, he was using puncture cheese so he had ownership of a bit under 50% of bleed

[minor wedge]

Hey lads?

A question

Is this a good build to run for the rifthaven staff?

(inferno)

I feel like im struggling with it a little. Like, im neither as deadly nor as survivable as i want to be

[summer prairie]

depends on the difficulty

[minor wedge]

Im mostly doing auric lately

im planning to eventually go havoc

[summer prairie]

if you aren't surviving just switch to dome

in havoc EP isn't worth it for inferno

[minor wedge]

Yeah, I've been considering that. But I really like the fact that the directional shield blocks hounds and poxbursters

[minor wedge]

So what would you recommend ?

[summer prairie]

warp charges for more domes

[marble crater]

Warp charges for doing what you already do anyway, but better

[minor wedge]

Like this perhaps?

Oh, wait, wrong shield

Like this?

[blissful solar]

[marble crater]

For inferno I would switch Empyric Resolve to the rending instead, it already has slow peril build up

[plucky flax]

Its pro

[minor wedge]

or should I just leave the critical hit perks off at the top ? Does the rifthaven crit ? i dont remember

[minor wedge]

Noted

[marble crater]

Inferno crits a lot

[cunning plinth]

i assume when they say gunker they just mean scriers?

[minor wedge]

So like this.

Or should I drop one of the brainburst mods to take Essence harvest at the bottom?

[marble crater]

No, it's an actual build that's not just gaze

[cunning plinth]

i would generally advvise against impiric resolve unless you know what you are doing as its as likely to hurt your build as anyting else

[cunning plinth]

ok, but inferno is not a gun 💢

[marble crater]

You are not a gun

[cunning plinth]

i strongly advise pathing through the middle aura just to pick up the evasion. being fully immune to ranged fire on a slow channeled weapon is "good"

[marble crater]

If you don't use brain burst enough you can drop resonance, also consider picking the cooldown aura, elite damage doesn't do too much

[minor wedge]

[jovial juniper]

No need for essence harvest

[minor wedge]

I do use it a bunch to deal with far off bombers or snipers

[cunning plinth]

tfw you really like the inferno staff AND the fgs, but realistically, the inferno staff just handles most of your FGS usecases for you

[minor wedge]

Okay ? But regaining a LOT of toughness on each warpcharge DOES sound alluring

Then again... if warpcharges reduce my shield cd

and my shield already replenishes my toughness

Hmm

[marble crater]

You have enough toughness regen from the talents at the top

[cunning plinth]

basically, you want to build peril and just quickly quell down to 97, you can do a full channel of inferno there and not go over 100, you have the 30% DR from one with the warp and THEORETICALLY you could also constantly crit now, and the cooldown aura is the best anyway so no reason to not pick up "be immune to all shooters and gunners while you are using your staff" node

[summer prairie]

without bm or shriek that kills you (e: or sg now as well)

[minor wedge]

Empathic evasion?

[cunning plinth]

downright mandatory node on any psyker build that crits, imo, its just so good

and inferno is like, the supreme crit machine

[quartz barn]

[minor wedge]

Okay but what node would I leave off ?

[cunning plinth]

sec, you want a reasonably safe buuble inferno staff psyker right?

[quartz barn]

One of the bb nodes imo

[minor wedge]

Thats what im at now

[quartz barn]

Not flayer, the other one

[minor wedge]

One of the bb nodes ?

Okay

[quartz barn]

Brain burst

[minor wedge]

So like that

[quartz barn]

Little playstyle dependent, but whenever theres a monster around i would just focus the horde instead and have the team fight the monster

[cunning plinth]

pme free point

i personally go 15 toughness there with my last point, but it doesnt "really" matter

[quartz barn]

You can also position so youd hit both the monster and the horde with inferno

[minor wedge]

I like the wildfire node

[quartz barn]

Or just use melee vs the monster if you have aggro

[minor wedge]

because it plays into warpcharges well

[cunning plinth]

its much worse than you think

your warpcharges will always be full

anyway

but its like, not terrible

but it doesnt hand out 4 stacks to all enemies, it hands out 4 stacks "total" so 4 enemies get 1 stack

its like, no damage at all, and warp charge generation feels fine already

[minor wedge]

OHHHH

[cunning plinth]

i mean the only reason im pathing through the fire node at the top there is because i want to actively AVOID any peril quelling, the "elite dying gives our 3 stacks" is also very low impact

[minor wedge]

Wait are you sure ?

[cunning plinth]

last time i tested, yes

[minor wedge]

It says nearby enemies EACH get up to 4 stacks

[summer prairie]

some controversial takes there

[quartz barn]

Its mostly that ot doesnt give anything above 4 stacks if enemies already have soulblaze stacks, so its effect on inferno is neglectible

[minor wedge]

Ah. okay

[cunning plinth]

maybe they changed it, just the last time i checked in the psykanium many moons ago, thats how it worked

[minor wedge]

Yeah ^^ BUt im happy for the help. im trying to improve my play and optimize my builds

[plucky flax]

PC is pretty good with kf and wildfire.

[cunning plinth]

its alright if you want to do somethign weird like run a blaze sword with a fire perc and have the fire spread because you want stuff like souldrinker to constantly pop because that activates off just "burning" enemies

[plucky flax]

I'd take it if you are using inferno.

[marble crater]

It's very badly written

[cunning plinth]

but yeah i left that node deliberatly free you got 1 point to spend and its hard to just pick a bad one.

[minor wedge]

For curios im running 2 17% toughness and one 3 max stamina

with 4% CD 5% toughness and gunner resist on all

[quartz barn]

Works

[marble crater]

With curios you basically can't go wrong as long as you don't pick wounds or more than 1 stamina

[cunning plinth]

i run 3x 17 + 5, because i found that on psyker i really didnt need the extra stamina since our stamina regens so fast, but you can also just play the stam node

[minor wedge]

And these are the weapons I use

[cunning plinth]

i play a lot with melees that have deflector so i get base block efficiency boni anyway

[summer prairie]

deflector without KD probably doesn't do anything

[minor wedge]

Been thinking about maybe packing a deflector force sword

[plucky flax]

Put uncanny on your sword.

[minor wedge]

[upper sun]

finally good spawns

were happy chat

[cunning plinth]

i really like a sword with deflector as "suddenly there are gunners or shooters and i have nothing to farm crits off" are like, the only thing thats actually potentially scary thats avoidable.

[upper sun]

2,2k kills in archivium a lot of elite clusters

[minor wedge]

Good point

[cunning plinth]

being able to just hold right click and shimmy away is nice, but its like, not mandatory at all

[minor wedge]

On this, what bless would I swap for it?

[cunning plinth]

personally percog, as uncanny is too funny with inferno

[plucky flax]

I also play uncanny deflector deimos

[upper sun]

i think its perfectly fine as is

[cunning plinth]

i also really like that swords attack pattern, considering i can turn it into a riot shield, i like it

[marble crater]

You are welcome

[minor wedge]

Thanks guys!

[summer prairie]

that build above doesn't have KD so especially without stamina you can block ranged for maybe 0.5s

[cunning plinth]

in an organized group, people should be handling those fuckass random shooters on a transition between locations "for you" so the value of having the imaginary riot shield is a bit lower, but i like it.

oh yeah, if you go deflector with no KD dont drop the stamina trinket

[minor wedge]

Time to jump into the deep end to test the build

[cunning plinth]

then again, if you are running bubble anyway, you can propably drop deflector and just run the stabby stab sword, if a panic bubble at your feet will bail you out, no reason to invest your melee weapon and curio into it

btw, stupid question: why is bubble so mandatory in high havoc, doesnt it get popped "instantly" by the damage thats thrown around there or are you just cheesing beasts of nurgle with it

(im low havoc babby)

[minor wedge]

No idea, im a no havoc baby

XD

[plucky flax]

6s is enough to create a 'bridge' between the team and the enemy range line

So we can all push

[cunning plinth]

that makes sense

[summer prairie]

purg can also often suppress everything in time

[jovial juniper]

It's not mandatory anymore

[cunning plinth]

i guess enemy density is so high that with psikinetics its up permanently anyway

[jovial juniper]

It was when literally every small shooters

Was a terminator

[cunning plinth]

do people run shriek now to stack more damage then?

[summer prairie]

it's still almost all bubble

[cunning plinth]

i assume inferno/trauma psyker are still the one true build

i mean, bubble is safe and and the objective in tide games is to walk forward while not dying

it makes sense

[jovial juniper]

Yes bubble still comfy

Just not mandatory

[plucky flax]

If youre pro run creeping flames surge

[jovial juniper]

If you use bubble to counter gas

Being inside the gas gives you the 'concealed' buff

Enemies will stop shooting the bubble

Improvised smoke grenade

[cunning plinth]

i think its literally just the movespeed that makes the fire staff not super fun for me. the only staff of which i actually "enjoy" the right click is the "bad" one

[cunning plinth]

huge brain

is psyker even still in the "meta" comp now that arbites came out? i assume ogryn, ammoprinter gold toughness bot and "emergency book" are all still in?

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah
Havoc 1.0 had the bajillion Tox Bombers at once modifier

[cunning plinth]

inb4 4 shield bash arbites

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Infinite Ammo

Infinite cleave

[marble crater]

Infinite fun

[jovial juniper]

High stagger

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike?

[jovial juniper]

Higher damage

[cunning plinth]

i forgot that one existed for a moment

[plucky flax]

Its really bad

[marble crater]

Which one did you mean then?

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh
Mettle is back

[cunning plinth]

i meant surge since its fire and forget and i get to just slide around and be really mobile without breaking my wrist.

[pine shore]

I remember when voidstrike was meta

It was so fun

I wish voidstrike came back

[cunning plinth]

i know surge leftckick spamm is good

[plucky flax]

Surge right click is better

[cunning plinth]

but staff leftclicks feel really stupid, ngl

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-grandma-lets-get-you-to-bed-yes-grandma-gif-6683134261581381982

[pine shore]

It wasn't even that long ago

It was during patch 13

I could start talking about things much older

[cunning plinth]

i love surge rightclick but ive been told by sources that "one would be lowkey griefing"

[pine shore]

Like old shotgunners that literally oneshot killed you

And had insane range

[cunning plinth]

i have the beta helmet hello

shame it looks so stupid

[pine shore]

Ogryn helmet actually looks good

I use it

[plucky flax]

Your source is questionable since I can play it in havoc with no bubble to team.

Top damage easily.

Just dont play into pus skin xd

[quartz barn]

Dont trust agent

[pine shore]

who are you

[quartz barn]

He griefs his team so he can claim most dmg

Nut

[plucky flax]

Tru

[quartz barn]

Also joke ofc

[cunning plinth]

make surge chain more times and give it blazing spirit for no specific reason except that being cool

[marble crater]

Also not a joke

[cunning plinth]

no bubble surge right click build? please link immediatly

[marble crater]

Agent uses two scoreboards to have double the damage

[quartz barn]

Simply be good so you dont die

[cunning plinth]

btw how does the game play with the third person mod. i got hit in the kidneys by a fucking poxwalker that i overlooked and i got almost upset enough to download that

[pine shore]

Did the backstab warning sound not work?

[summer prairie]

it's just the normal auric build, though I take EE

[plucky flax]

Right at the start. Pick wildfire instead of a toughness node if no second psyker.
https://youtu.be/OdCsqNLTAEg

[cunning plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueufxzUjsS0

i was listening to this, all game sound muted except the peril_FX turned up to maximum as recommended by the psyker gameplay guide

[marble crater]

[jovial juniper]

Bro's "voices in his head" maxxing

[pine shore]

wait, it's just the default rmb surge build

I was expecting it to be lmb

[plucky flax]

No it's not as good

[cunning plinth]

important question: does this still work after they made it so that soulblaze ticks caused by a crit no longer individually count as crits?

[plucky flax]

Harder to kill shooters when you have to aim

[pine shore]

rmb better than lmb?

[plucky flax]

Yes i played yesterday as lone psyker.

[pine shore]

I thought is was always the opposite

[cunning plinth]

idk i really like being able to release a right click turn 180 and slide away instantly and it still fully goes off

[pine shore]

lmb surge insanely op

[plucky flax]

Yeah for my playstyle I guess.

[summer prairie]

you can't even notice that change if you play normally instead of waiting for a crit and then swinging air

[pine shore]

I need to try both builds in havoc 40

[plucky flax]

Go for it its very fun. Just remember dont play it into pus

[pine shore]

How would you build lmb surge for havoc?

Still shriek or do you take scriers

[plucky flax]

Id take shriek for horde clear. Cos never known when youre the last one alive clutching

[jovial juniper]

Fuck it we ball

Scriers gaming

No more hiding

🗣️

[upper sun]

FEAR THE FUTURE

[minor wedge]

Observation

people dont seem to like "coherency" very much

[pine shore]

yes

Coherency does nothing good by itself

Talents that interact with coherency can be insane tho

[minor wedge]

Thats my point

every class has something that works together with the otehrs

INCENTIVICING teamplay

meanwhile, i see a LOT and excuse my wording

havoc title main characters

sprinting off alone

[pine shore]

But also, I can't stay in coherency 100% of the time

It's just death

There are many reasons to leave it and do something good for your team

[jovial juniper]

Yeah uh
Coherency doesn't really

💀

However

Line of sight still important

So if someone fucks off and you can still see him

Yeah that's aight

[pine shore]

Unless I'm like shroudfield zealot or fotf zealot with something like ds4

You can get away with a lot more than most

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[zinc phoenix]

i personally treat the other difficulties less seriously and wander about/do whatever in them

usually i go in to test a concept or to goof off

[pine shore]

wait, why do you need wildfire?

I thought you are taking it for in fire reborn procs

[plucky flax]

More damage.

[pine shore]

But you have the 4% one

[plucky flax]

Yep for when shriek is down.

I'm getting warp charges from elites/specials kills mostly.

[pine shore]

nah, I'd rather take +2 max charges

I'm a big wildfire hater

[plucky flax]

Sure that's up to you.

[pine shore]

It's only use is getting more in fire reborn procs

[plucky flax]

1 mil soublaze damage from surge creeping flames wildfire as lone psyker.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1390380620089135124/image.png?ex=6868b51b&is=6867639b&hm=a7e56bf6d970078b17f5e829aa2047994569d7aac6bac16ac89f1ec5c4a88a87&

[summer prairie]

yes just take wildfire and you do +1m more damage

[marble crater]

But you are the Ogryn

I know the name

[summer prairie]

tru

[plucky flax]

Yeah i mean mr unsanctioned did it

I was ogryn

[deft stump]

No, the oggy is his friend.

[plucky flax]

I begged him to play bubble but he said 'nah git gud kid' so that's why I had 1 death

[marble crater]

Makes no sense, Agent's Ogryn is called AM-O

[deft stump]

I saw them both swapping around before.

[marble crater]

Stop gaslighting me

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

You all are the ones gaslighting me.

[vagrant pawn]

anyone got an op psyker build?

[summer prairie]

With power di you could probably figure out how much of that is purple farming damage

[plucky flax]

OP psyker build is you switch to arby and play dog.

[summer prairie]

well not really, too difficult

[vagrant pawn]

is there an op psyker build!! any sweet individual that could share

[marble crater]

There are builds for every staff in the pins

[pine shore]

Except voidstrike

[vagrant pawn]

which one would be the best one though...

[pine shore]

Not voidstrike

[marble crater]

The one you like the most

[deft stump]

Voidstrike only exists to make you feel sad rn.

[plucky flax]

Play surge its fun

[cunning plinth]

man, kinetic flayer on that staff is so sick

since it aimbots at elites anway

1 ❤️ surge

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

Don't tell Fatshark or they will nerf it

[cunning plinth]

imagine if kinetic flayer went off on cd, but on the targets you are actually hitting rather than on some random asshole your fire spread to

i do appreciate the 4 warpcharges only

[cunning plinth]

since the surge generates and dumps a shitton of toughness, how do you feel about quietude and warp expenditure on the build? i feel like it should be good but also you are backwards sliding electrocuting stuff, you should be pretty safe with this setup as is?

just feels a bit sad to leave them on the table on a "toughness goes up and down in big chunks constantly" build

[marble crater]

Warp Expenditure is not good, Quietude is good

[pine shore]

Quietude just sucks

[cunning plinth]

🤔

[marble crater]

[cunning plinth]

now we need a centrist who says both are ok

[pine shore]

Wait, no

Which one is 2.5%

[marble crater]

WE

[pine shore]

the one that's 2.5% is bad

[cunning plinth]

btw, did they nerf it or was it always this ass

[marble crater]

Has been like this since I started almost 2 years ago

[cunning plinth]

ok, BUT, if you are at max stack scriers gaze and you are constantly dumping massive amounts of peril from the now sligjtly funny tuned crack of bone, it almost does something!

that something being, massively overcapping your toughness, but hey

anway, give soulblaze to surge staff, fatshark pls, i dont even care if it would be good, it would be cool

[marble crater]

It wouldn't be good, for the same reason it's not good on melee

The only reason it's good on voidblast is because the radius for applying soulblaze is so much bigger than the radius that actually deals damage

[rotund dagger]

Surge Staff is just the smyker fantasy but actually contributes to the game

[tulip kettle]

yes but have you considered

that surge sounds like a wet noodle

the least satisying bzzzt in existence

[rotund dagger]

have you considered

https://tenor.com/view/susie-deltarune-deltarune-deltarune-kris-deltarune-susie-kris-deltarune-gif-11804014829687261061

[tulip kettle]

am i wrong tho

[rotund dagger]

yes you're wrong

[minor wedge]

I mean, sure, thats all well and good. But being 2 rooms ahead with the only med pack while your teammates are all close to death on their last wound. idk

Even had havoc players tell me to my face before: "Why should I care for a team, i can solo this"

[ornate hearth]

@hearty wolf it's official. I am a believer.

[pine shore]

tbf I've seen players that can solo half the map and the other is an event

[minor wedge]

And im like, congrats man, good for you. But this is a 4 man game lol.

[jovial juniper]

Both are ok

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-me-shoot-me-now-king-of-the-hill-hank-hill-water-gif-16249718

[rotund dagger]

why not just have both and generate more tgh than any 1 talent

[cunning plinth]

re surge staff: i, unwisely, somehow managed to assemble a build that cant pry open bulwaks today and man did i miss the electrocute staff when i was doing fucking turnbased combat with the shield enjoyer

on arbites you simply press your shieldslam of physically plausible impact and friendship and bonk them in the head while they are on the ground

i almost experienced what its like to be a veteran and it was the saddest experence of my life

[vagrant pawn]

anyone got a fun psyker build

[cunning plinth]

havoc or auric

[vagrant pawn]

uhhh

havoc

[cunning plinth]

do you enjoy the trauma staff or the inferno staff

[vagrant pawn]

which one would be meta in your opinion

i'd say inferno

[cunning plinth]

both kinda? the stagger from voidblast "is" very nice

[pine shore]

@plucky flax I also noticed in your gameplay most of the time you don't fully charge your staff

[vagrant pawn]

inferno since i love fire :3

[cunning plinth]

thats normal for surge tho

[pine shore]

Why

I thought you deal very little damage with no full charge?

[cunning plinth]

congratulations on thinking the default psyker metabuild is fun ;D

it should be in the pins somewhere im sure

[vagrant pawn]

yayyy :D

[summer prairie]

in havoc surge doesn't hit many full charge breakpoints anyway and it's safer to do shorter charges

[vagrant pawn]

in the pins, it says that it isnt he most meta build but

sure

[analog agate]

It is meta in havoc

[cunning plinth]

last time i checked in the psykanium (many moons ago) the dps was just as good from many faster partial charges and staff does all its damage at the end of the cast animation. if you half charge you can release and turn around and slide staying on the move

[vagrant pawn]

damn

[analog agate]

Not in non havoc

[vagrant pawn]

there is 2 version of the builds tho

[cunning plinth]

non havoc has teammates pushing a bit too far and too low of an enemy densitsy often for it to really pop off

[analog agate]

Doesn’t matter. Inferno staff itself isn’t meta in non havoc

[cunning plinth]

but yeah with surge i tink you want to abuse your elite aimbotting and mobility as much as possible and just ADHD wizard

opportunity cost is also very low as just smiting somebody twice that was just stunlocked inbetween the smites isnt a big deal

[analog agate]

No. The problem is power creep. Things die too fast for your soul blaze to build up. So things are dead before your staff really takes effect

Density is auric is fine for inferno

[vagrant pawn]

i do have a question

whats so different with havoc, and auric?

havoc is just the nightmare version of auric

so bringing a havoc build to an auric game will be easier? or nah

[potent echo]

as density goes up, any infinite cleave thing gets massive value

havoc has its own builds

[pine shore]

no

Havoc has very different and unfair rules

[cunning plinth]

scaling isnt linear. like, for example, lets say there was a weapon thats fine, but ammo inefficient. like the columnus, that weapon sharply falls off being usable once the total amount of hitpoints running at you realistically exceeds what you can feed it

[pine shore]

h40 builds will work in auric

But some builds will work better in h40 than in auric

[potent echo]

all grey weapons can work in aurics

[pine shore]

Like relic blade with wrath

You do not need wrath for aurics

But it's a must take for h40

[vagrant pawn]

but bringing a havoc build to an auric game (where the weapon wont be unusable in a havoc game, but will be in an auric game) will it be better? or worse

[potent echo]

cant really compare

its alot more of a playstyle difference

[pine shore]

Some builds are better in h40 than in auric

[potent echo]

the build supports that

[pine shore]

But all builds will work in any case

They are good by default

[cunning plinth]

it depends on your team. so for example, bubble is always good, but if your auric random squad is 3 autism zealots and you on staff with bubble, they just sprint ahead and you get to flame the occasional horde from behind hurray. the reason that "doesnt" happen in havoc is because "autistically running ahead of the team and outpacing the bubble staff psyker" just isnt really an option

[potent echo]

hence playstyle difference

[analog agate]

For the most part. Havoc builds are the same for aurics and non havoc. You may just have bubble instead of shriek

[potent echo]

auric is just zoom and rush

[cunning plinth]

basically, the lower the difficulty, the more the run becomes a speedrun, and stuff thats the best at havoc 40 isnt necessarily the fastest

[vagrant pawn]

ah i see

[potent echo]

also i dont think you can find many ammo dump builds in havoc

[minor wedge]

VERY annoying to deal with for people that ARENT h40 vets yet

[potent echo]

since you get ALOT less ammo there

[cunning plinth]

but in darktide, you win by holding W and not dying, its just that, idk making something up, scriers gaze DD, assail with a FGS might feel REALLY good in auric, but straight up doesnt work in havoc, but the worst that can happen to inferno bubble psyker is that it doesnt feel good, it will never just not work in the lower difficulty

[potent echo]

gaze FGS assail is so fun

[marble crater]

Because Warp Expenditure is not worth the point, there are better things to get instead

[cunning plinth]

its SO fun

[cunning plinth]

"please put psikinetic aura in the middle somewhere"

fatshark PLEASE

[potent echo]

it works if all your team is dead and you are solo clutching

[deft stump]

Depends on team. If you get two ppl constantly kissing the floor...

It will go slower.

[potent echo]

but if your team is competent inferno staff is just sad

[potent echo]

those are the most fun auric games

i feel like its balanced for duos

[cunning plinth]

right click assail shard long range to kill a sniper across the map

[deft stump]

No, still 4 "man".

[potent echo]

4 man

4 dogs

[deft stump]

There's 2 puppos.

[potent echo]

90% of quickplay lobbies

actually thats not true because lone wolf zoomers

[cunning plinth]

there are 2 wolfs inside you

[potent echo]

https://tenor.com/view/so-i've-heard-gif-1899418861963210299

[cunning plinth]

lone wolf is crazy because you dont play arbites to "try" right?

you want to laugh at your dog outperforming the vet randomly

[fresh reef]

Tbf the dog by itself has a more well put together tree than Vet

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-wolf-sigma-male-sigma-male-wolf-gif-1568048693594975295

[potent echo]

dog saves me from mutants/hound instantly

human player uh

[deft stump]

Don't remind me. The doggos do what frags do for free.

1.5 sec cd vs 60.

[fresh reef]

Man

I wish I didn't have to crutch on empathic evasion so hard

[cunning plinth]

you will keep critting and you will like it

[fresh reef]

No that's the thing, I'm playing it on a crit build

And it's working

It just feels cheesy to use

[restive slate]

Vet should have a guardsman companion

[fresh reef]

Ghost but for free right in the middle of the tree that you can slot in any build

[cunning plinth]

today i died to 3 equidistant basic shooters in a triangle around me, schoolyard bullying me because i had nothing to farm crits of. You can try to re-create this situation to re-kindle your love for EE

[fresh reef]

I have been in this situation multiple times in the past few days

[cunning plinth]

it feels so stupid 😄

nooo my crits, im powerless now

[fresh reef]

Never die to it, but I'm just thinking "if this were havoc I would be dead"

From all the chip

[cunning plinth]

big enemy wave: oh im immune and i regenerate 999 toughness per nanosecond.
mostly cleared wave that people ran past: might actually kill you

this is how mafia works

[hearty wolf]

Very good

[fresh reef]

Guess that's what I get for trying to be ethical yet balance my build around havoc lol

[cunning plinth]

emergency cuck bubble of shame on yourself

[hearty wolf]

Fellas I've survived work

I'm going home

I was being an absolute MENACE in the office

[fresh reef]

Playing walls deflector rn and it's genuinely fucking infuriating how often I get chipped because random shooters B and C are 3 pixels unobscured by either my block angle or the wall

[cunning plinth]

makes me appreciate the dog ironically

that just "cant" happen to arbites unless you go "heroic mastiff travels 2000 miles to attack assigned sniper" mode and send your dog into banishment

[jovial juniper]

Rainbow six siege experience

[deft stump]

A personal big man to be bodyguard?

[restive slate]

Another idea, since Arbites got a dog. Vet gets a C.A.T.

[jovial juniper]

If you can't hunt with a dog

Hunt with a cat

[deft stump]

Lioness, gib.

[fresh reef]

Getting pixel peeked in a pve game 🥀

[minor wedge]

What does enhanced blitz do for bb btw?

[marble crater]

Lower peril generation and... That's it I think

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

50% reduction

[hearty wolf]

It's all a lie

It does fuck all

[mental mist]

Does the cleave from warp splitting affect smite?

[hearty wolf]

If you multiply 0 by anything

It's still 0

[mental mist]

I'm running a scrier's gaze warp unbound build with empowered psionics so I get 10 seconds of free smite at 100% peril. If the additional cleave is doing something I'll keep it, but if not I can get psykinetic's aura

[rotund dagger]

Is Penetration of the soul still bugged?

[deft stump]

Nope.

[rotund dagger]

:D

[jovial juniper]

No

If it was -mass

Then yes

But it's +cleave

[midnight jolt]

is this good?

[jovial juniper]

Alright stats

[midnight jolt]

warp resist needed to be 60 to be perfect right?

[analog agate]

Ya. Cause all other stats would be 80

That is still good. Before the rework that would have been a god roll staff

[marble crater]

It's good enough to keep if you aren't rich and also want to craft some other weapons first

Those 2% aren't going to ruin how it performs

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch

Hello

Are you around

I know it's a bit early xd

I rage quit work because I cba'd

[marble crater]

Rage quit work to rage quit darktide sooner

[hearty wolf]

Yea to get to sleep to mentally reset

That's my plan

[inland ice]

I have recently started pushing into auric because ive been scrubbing in damnation for a long time

but ive noticed people dont really gaf about team cohesion a lot

they just run ahead

[hearty wolf]

It's because auric isn't that hard

[mint matrix]

You don’t really need to gaf in aurics

[hearty wolf]

I get it's not conducive to you trying to scale and learn more but if you play at a faster pace, you'll learn what your weaknesses are

Just be prepared because it's going to hit you really hard in the face if you don't adapt

[midnight jolt]

is this still up-to-date?

[pearl glacier]

Do we get a dog, or nah?

[analog agate]

Ya

Sorry. Yeah to that graph

[midnight jolt]

You get a dog that bites you from the warp when you go over 90%

[pearl glacier]

happens to me at least once per game

[minor wedge]

3 auric maelstroms under my belt without dieing

then I got burstered

FUCK

[inland ice]

this is the most terminally online response to what i said

[minor wedge]

Also yep, absolutely that.

[long wharf]

yep, shit happens

[minor wedge]

I notice its espically people with the H40 title

I mean

its cool and all that you can play a game that hard

But come on. A little minding of your teammates would be nice

[long wharf]

had a run yesterday where it was smooth sailing until a plogryn threw one player off the map and knocked two more onto ledges

[hearty wolf]

I go back to my previous point

The best way to parent is by doing

[inland ice]

I get that

but I dont have a ton of time to play these days and I cant just nolife like you

type shit

[minor wedge]

So in your oppinion the best way to teach auric players how to auric is letting them die and finishing the level by yourself ? because I had havoc players do that to me before.

[inland ice]

even reginald made a whole video complaining about people going too fast thru games

"erm get good"

[long wharf]

here's the thing - a team of people pushing fast all together works out fine

[hearty wolf]

If you can't adapt to a harder difficulty and need support from your team, that's likely because you're not good enough to be in that team in the first place.

Yeah you need to learn and spectating a game isn't exactly fun or helpful. But the lesson to you is that something needs to change

[long wharf]

one person being slow means that one person is going to have a hard time

[inland ice]

i get left behind just picking up materials bruh

[inland ice]

never said im dying cause of it

just that im sick of having to constantly play catch up cause i want diamantine

[eager moat]

hey wizards

[hearty wolf]

Mortis says hello

[long wharf]

I've noticed that lately too, there's usually one person not caring about pickups at all and just rushing ahead of the group

[hearty wolf]

That's not an issue with the players either imo

That's because the design of the game is shit

[long wharf]

lately, it's been me, trying to make sure I get the special targetted specialists and elites

3500 marked kills is absolutely obnoxious as a penance

[eager moat]

long time returning player here, dunno what the skill tree does

is lighting staff still good? any1 got a good lighting staff build that i can keep eveything electrocuted

[minor wedge]

Dunno. I think thats an attitude problem. "You're worse than me so I have the right to treat you like shit and or leave you for dead and play alone"

[hearty wolf]

I mean it goes both ways

You're also ruining the other person's experience because you can't keep up so what would take 20m is taking 40

Mind you

[minor wedge]

In... a gamemode meant for players of a lower difficulty... ?

[hearty wolf]

I'm not talking about players who completely ignore rescues at the next checkpoint m

[minor wedge]

I mean, if I would SOMEHOW get matched into a h40 and drag everyone down, sure

But if 3 people are of the same speed

and the H40 guy speeds ahead and picks noone up

then I wonder who the problem is

[hearty wolf]

I mean it's the "second" highest difficulty. And you can't control havoc's difficulty with ease so you have havoc which is where some people try and auric where those people who are far too good for the other difficulties want to chill

[minor wedge]

Yeah and thats the problem

a conflict of interest

the good players feel offended not everyone is as good as them

and it makes the experiencves for still learning players worse

imho, we need a little button at the bottom of matchmaking

like "enable only h40 lobbies" or smthn

[plucky flax]

[hearty wolf]

Game is already deadish in some regions, think that would be a bit restrictive unless we cut out another difficulty

Mortis has its own population now which is eh

[minor wedge]

Which is all the MORE reason to include everyone in the run and not just mindlessly speed ahead.
Because elitism has since time immemorial led to people leaving games

[marble crater]

Cut out heresy

Sedition, malice, damnation, auric

[minor wedge]

Lord knows I took a few breaks after particularly unfriendly "highskilled" players rubbed it in how bad I was

[long wharf]

no, elitists get offended when other players aren't as good as them

decent human beings don't have that problem, regardless of their skill level

[hearty wolf]

Wtf

Am I not an elitist then 😭

@strong gulch fok u for dying in the middle of the map in chasm logistratum finale 3 days ago 😭😭

[long wharf]

which is why I refuse to run aurics with randos

a good arbites can hard carry up through damnation

[minor wedge]

Wish i had that option. But none of my friends play darktide

[dusk void]

I ran into a toxic player yesterday on Havoc. I got questioned on whether or not I have completed a Havoc 40 and told me to bring a build I never fucking use. Pathetic ass teammate cussing out the entire fucking team

[long wharf]

sounds like you need to make more friends, then

[hearty wolf]

Havoc 40*

Skies the limit

[long wharf]

I haven't started my havoc playing with the arbites yet, but plan to

I ignored havoc previously

[hearty wolf]

It's like kicking a baby

It's really easy

[random thunder]

hello I have a question, if I have voidstrike staff + surge blessing and True Aim talent
I crit and throw 2 projectiles on weakspot
is that +2 to true aim counter ?

[broken carbon]

i wonder if there’s some kind of chat where you could find people to play with in vc,,,,,,

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-unwritten-script-gif-20797851

[minor wedge]

XD

Fair

[long wharf]

I'm all about that

[analog agate]

I literally got as good as I am purely through pubs 🤷‍♂️ Both pfoenix and derp have been around long enough to see me complaining about these same things

[plucky flax]

Host your own game is best way! You can run whatever you want and they can't do anything about it.

[hearty wolf]

Diablo

Diabolic

It's been a hot min since we played

It's time for a h40

Leggo

[eager moat]

oop, any1 got a really good electric staff build that focuses on keepin the room doin the boogie?

[long wharf]

I'm going to play more Darktide today, but first I'm going to add more recoloring to my mod

[minor wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-elmo-smite-blasphemy-fire-gif-16399494362253595444

XD

[analog agate]

I should be available some today. I have been busy over the past month cause we just bought a house. A lot of crap to do

[broken carbon]

doesn’t even have to be good lol

[hearty wolf]

Ah yikes. Did you get all your furniture and stuff moved in alright?

[broken carbon]

arbites is busted

[dusk void]

You right. Thanks @plucky flax

[plucky flax]

Sounds more like a smite build. Or you can just run surge staff but take smite instead of bb+kf.

[long wharf]

busted amazing

[broken carbon]

only thing that’s a threat to a decently built arbites is a trapper

[long wharf]

not when you have your dog

[broken carbon]

arbites needs 2 get gutted !

[long wharf]

it won't

[broken carbon]

it’s way too strong in every aspect

it’s ogryn all over again

[analog agate]

Not yet. We just closed. Just all the inspections and paperwork gathering. Now we are in the process of getting things we need. House owning is so much different than living in a large apartment complex

[eager moat]

sry wus that lol, im using the staff that has an eye in the front, do u have the full skill tree?

skill trees ar new to me

[hearty wolf]

Only if evis is removed or cleave cap is reintroduced:))

[long wharf]

welcome to home ownership

[eager moat]

and what staff and gear i should be grinding for

[long wharf]

I never signed so much paper as when I bought my house

[broken carbon]

and new super strong class drags in new players, new players try other classes, other classes feel significantly weaker in comparison, and then a bunch of players call for buffs

and then we get havoc 80

the power creep in this game is absolutely absurd

[analog agate]

Lol that is the exact trend on reddit right now

[hearty wolf]

Oh for sure. Where abouts are you from? The legal and moving process changes a lot between countries

[broken carbon]

ogryn psyker and arbites all need to be dialed down

[analog agate]

Arby OP. Buff the other classes

[broken carbon]

zealot needs a buff and some power rebalancing

[long wharf]

havoc 80 gets released alongside a talent tree rework for the Arbites that introduces being able to have two dogs out per player

[broken carbon]

vet needs some tweaking, and more weapons

[analog agate]

I live in Houston TX 🤮 Not a fan of the weather or politics. But the job is good

[hearty wolf]

Okay

I'm running a havoc now

[inland ice]

in vt2 someone left a comment on my steam profile once because I didn't know about the healing kit mechanics

[broken carbon]

but this will never happen

i miss when aurics could be challenging,,,

[broken carbon]

mk3 shouldn’t have gotten its attack speed changed

all of the changes were great

but the attack speed was unnecessary

[plucky flax]

There's a pin by potato. Take that skill tree but use the middle blitz instead of bb.

[broken carbon]

the only speed change needed was making h2 faster

anyway i yap

back to zealot chat

[hearty wolf]

what about game

[broken carbon]

wha

[hearty wolf]

havoc?

[broken carbon]

oh

i’m not home lmfaooo

you really do have the worst timing

[hearty wolf]

motherfu-

EVERY TIME

[minor wedge]

LOL. Talk about salty

[hearty wolf]

it's literally been

like a year

[broken carbon]

i’m going to a garden

[hearty wolf]

ok valid

enjoy plant

[broken carbon]

it’ll be a while til i’m home

[hearty wolf]

Is weekend so I'll be around unless I crash

[broken carbon]

alright

i’ll ping u

[rotund dagger]

Crusher Surprise

[ornate hamlet]

what are good blessings for the agrip combat shotty? i have flechette and fullbore on rn

[marble crater]

I would check the vet guide for that

[jovial juniper]

Full Bore No Respite

Aim down sights and go for the head

[ornate hamlet]

i still dont really understand how stagger works in this game

are things usually staggered?

[jovial juniper]

3 types of stagger

Small flinch

Off balance

Knock down

[rotund dagger]

If things didnt get staggered when you hit them, surviving in this game would be nigh impossible

blessed be thy stagger, for without them there is no imperium

[north hatch]

I've seen people rec Frechette man stopper too

But I don't like it that much tbh

[jovial juniper]

Flechette AND Manstopper

It's infinite cleave + bleed

[ornate hamlet]

on the agrip one?

isnt the spread too tight to make the most of manstopper

[jovial juniper]

Funny infinite cleave slug

But this borders meme build territory

[long wharf]

exshotgun is a better slug shotgun, anyways

[mint matrix]

Don’t u want full bore on the agri shotgun with full respite?

[jovial juniper]

I don't know about that

Chief

Agripina is currently so good

[long wharf]

it's stupid just how good the exshotgun is

[jovial juniper]

That Arbites shotguns are mid

In comparison

[long wharf]

basically no damage falloff, way too much cleave

[jovial juniper]

Or that was what our shotgun connoisseur said

[long wharf]

and you don't have to spam special to do that

[jovial juniper]

Condenser

Conneisseur

Connecticut

[long wharf]

nah, exshotguns are currently the best shotguns in the game

[jovial juniper]

Whatever the term

[long wharf]

easily

[jovial juniper]

[long wharf]

croissant

[ornate hamlet]

yea but u cant use exshotgun as a psyker

[long wharf]

very true

you probably shouldn't be using any shotgun as a psyker, though

[jovial juniper]

High finesse scaling

Because shotguns are finesse weapons

For some Fatshark reason

Or memes like

40+ reload speed

[mint matrix]

I can’t play bubble psyker it’s my least favorite ability

[jovial juniper]

That affects your special shot reload

So you become a railgun

Or a Perma wide shot

Or burn it all spam

A weapon that you shouldn't be using on Psyker, Braced Autogun

Easily the worst option

And even then

6 cleave memes

[ornate hamlet]

shotgun psyker is op

[long wharf]

really?

I honestly haven't touched my psyker since arbites dropped

[analog agate]

Shotgun psyker is most definitely mid

[rotund dagger]

dakkadakkadakkadakkadakka

[jovial juniper]

Agripina shotgun is just that good

So good

You should also run it on Arbys

It's just that good

[analog agate]

I do run it on arby. At least non havoc

[jovial juniper]

Woe

Shotgun curse is real

Agripina propaganda will continue until morale improves

[upbeat kestrel]

that would be ripper guns

[long wharf]

unless ripper guns were significantly buffed recently, I'm gonna have to hard disagree

[jovial juniper]

Simply cheat and say Kickback

No one says shit about kickback

https://tenor.com/view/drev-drevcronsole-pipeline-tf2-cheeto-gif-11619457525537278595

[ripe obsidian]

Today I realized I am something of an elitist about this game. There's some clip on reddit of a guy clutching a game, but there's a grimoire on the ground. Everyone in the comments is praising the person, meanwhile I'm thinking, "It's Auric and they're Arbitrator. They'd need to try to die." I should maybe be less of a snob.

[hearty wolf]

Oh it's Six

Hello

It's time to play

leggo

[ripe obsidian]

I just woke up. D:

[hearty wolf]

:(

ok we do 1 more

[ripe obsidian]

I shall endeavor to be online soon

[jovial juniper]

That's not a good excuse

[marble crater]

The more I'm here the more I realize that my sleeping schedule is actually great

[vestal trench]

the reddit's genuinely the worst tho

before i joined here i'd try looking over there for info and it's filled with giving advice from vibes and being anti-meta

someone would be asking abt the strengths and weaknesses of a certain class/weapon and top comment's gonna be "as long as ur having fun u should play it" with no other info

[strong gulch]

True

[marble crater]

"As long as you are having fun you should play it" is valid advice, unless someone specifically asked about meta or something like that.
If you are good enough you can make anything work in auric

[vestal trench]

it should be a given is my thing

so many of the people who parrot that line around act as if any knowledge of the meta is out to get them and their comfort picks

and so often it's given out to contribute to that circlejerk with people rarely addressing the info asked for by the initial question in the first place

[upper sun]

mine is great too

after ive taken to floor naps (its very cool)

[marble crater]

Floor is noticeably cooler indeed, good thing for my dog

[marble crater]

That's just most of reddit, sometimes there is good advice

[ripe obsidian]

It's a holiday weekend. I will sleep as late as I want

[vestal trench]

ig, it was a pain in the ass most times

so much of a pain the ass in fact that the youtubers seemed to give more consistent shit

[marble crater]

[vestal trench]

then i came here and got a better picture of what works better than others

[upper sun]

CIVI MAELSTROM UP

[vestal trench]

but generally idk, i tend to distrust people who parrot that attitude around now cause they tend to be the type to also be ok with the powercreep

[upper sun]

WHOS DOWN

@patent mango HI

[marble crater]

Not me, I'm eating

[patent mango]

oh thats you

naww i gotta hop off

[upper sun]

spawns are so good now

[patent mango]

fr?

[upper sun]

ye

[patent mango]

ok i can hop on but i might need to go midway through

lmao

[upper sun]

spawns are so lit in fact

im fine with it

[marble crater]

They really need to let us add custom names to people on our friends list or something, I don't know when people randomly invite me with a new character, because it doesn't even show their steam or xbox name

[upper sun]

potato and i wiped

[patent mango]

zam

[upper sun]

@gray juniper u wanna join?

[patent mango]

nah im used to jusut auto rejecting them with esc LOL

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

Going to try this today in rando auric maelstrom to see how it works for my playstyle. I’m looking for more edge on elite takedowns which this might pull off comparative to gaze time and toughness buff

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/daspoody-sleep-sleepy-wake-woke-gif-2569845121217246002

[gray juniper]

Likely. What are yall doing?

[upper sun]

maelstrom

[marble crater]

Good luck, try it with clad now, I'm sure it will go well

[upper sun]

YEAH

[marble crater]

Just watch our for trappers near clad, that's a run ending event

[upper sun]

😭

[gray juniper]

Lmao

[strong gulch]

need a 4th?

[jovial juniper]

While I'm at work

[upper sun]

😭 too late

[strong gulch]

kk

[jovial juniper]

I'm not playing CIVI so early

[upper sun]

thats how it goes my guy

[jovial juniper]

I haven't CIVId in months

[marble crater]

The two of us have lost too many runs because one got trapped and the other tried to save, and also because of general shenanigans and not taking things seriously

[jovial juniper]

I don't even know if I can fight packs of armor anymore