#psyker-class

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hearty wolf
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Old school Sienna was much more rough

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But if you've played VT recently

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It's so fucking easy

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it's not a real game

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vt2 mind you

vestal trench
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i played VT around the time outcast engi came out and famished flame just dogwalked the game

strong gulch
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I don't remember. I think darktide in general is harder. So probably psyker.

tulip kettle
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i havent played in a while and i was never huge into VT2 like i am tide

vestal trench
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my friend says psyker's easier but im just like...bruh

jovial juniper
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What the hell is a gun

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šŸ—£ļø

vestal trench
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ok maybe im not crazy LMAO

tulip kettle
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idk i think on every other class

keen cargo
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bro sienna first career bright wizard i think was BUSTED

tulip kettle
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you make a mistake

hearty wolf
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Sienna is harder because of friendly fire lmao

tulip kettle
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you lose some toughness

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on psyker, you make a mistake, you get hurt

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and it just gets worse from there

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and going back i thought sienna was harder because, imagine if quelling in this game cost direct HP dmg

vestal trench
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riiiiiight i did notice friendly fire on here barely exists

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completely forgot about the manual quell damage, though ig bc thp was so busted i just forgot

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fire sword h1 block cancel was unhinged

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idk if they ever nerfed its thp generation

hearty wolf
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I dunno if it effects penetration tho

tulip kettle
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im pretty sure it does

hearty wolf
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fucking ogryns

tulip kettle
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and i guess there is friendly fire to an extent

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fking barrells

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i wish exploding from perils had friendly fire

strong gulch
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That is true. I may put "how to play" in my pin in the future.

Some things too keep in mind tho are 1) My posts were never intended to be a guide. 2) I didn't know that my posts would be pinned. 3) A lot what I said on how to play EK applies to all of the staves. It's more general psykering vs EK specific except for the CC part. 4) I asked a friend to write the VS post after my posts were pinned, and he took the liberty to make it a fuller post.

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I do thank you for the feedback.

hearty wolf
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Now time to dream of running into bombs

dense wolf
ripe obsidian
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It went well. But the rumbler ogryn outdamaged me. >:(

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I did go down once, and I am not sure how. I was full health+toughness, then suddenly down

ripe obsidian
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I also swapped off of Quietude + Battle Meditation for Soulstealer and OwtW

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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With purgatus, at least, I have enough lingering fire around to proc Soulstealer that toughness on quell isn't doing too much, especially since I only quell like 20% at a time

ripe obsidian
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Not sure what else it could have been. I was safe behind the ogryn

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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Then I know not. I had taken 0 damage up to that point, and there was only one enemy near me

pulsar solar
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What's a good generalist psyker build?

ripe obsidian
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At what difficulty level?

pulsar solar
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Most

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Never tried havoc yet

ripe obsidian
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Melee or ranged focus?

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Voidstrike is a staff that, pre-havoc, does most things passably. EK is better for single target and Shriek spam, purgatus burns the world, and voidblast has great crowd control. Any of them will work.

ripe obsidian
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Besides Voidstrike. It falls off hard.

ripe obsidian
deft stump
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Need cleave buff and charge rate buff tbh.

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For Strike.

ripe obsidian
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Yes. If it's gonna work in Havoc, it needs a charge rate that isn't like 33% longer than Voidblast and it needs to be able to hit more than 3 poxwalkers at full charge

deft stump
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Mhm.

pulsar solar
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Is warp charge better than enhanced psionics for brain burst?

deft stump
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I was thinking at least 20 cleave after Warp splitting, maybe more.

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It has like 12 RN.

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From memory.

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If I got it mixed up, just double the cleave again.

jovial juniper
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Comparatively

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EP has higher damage

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What you can get though

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Is faster Shriek/shield walls

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To proc Kinetic Resonance more often

ripe obsidian
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Deimos H2 launching crushers back like 10 feet is endlessly amusing

pulsar solar
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How's this?

keen cargo
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is uncanny strike overrated chat

ripe obsidian
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No.

deft stump
keen cargo
pulsar solar
keen cargo
keen cargo
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inferno already is the staff that generates the less peril

deft stump
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Mostly cos precog has that 2 sec to poke.

keen cargo
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light 1 Dodge into heavy 2

deft stump
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Well, you can test it out by swapping and playing games.

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If you find it better, that's good for you. If it's worse, well, now you know.

gray juniper
pulsar solar
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Got any inferno staff soulblaze builds?

zinc comet
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theres a pinned one

strong gulch
strong gulch
proper osprey
pulsar solar
proper osprey
pulsar solar
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And if not?

strong gulch
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purg is the old name for inferno

pulsar solar
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Honestly prefer the dome

strong gulch
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You won't be damage maxinging or BB maxinging with that but go for it if you want.

pulsar solar
proper osprey
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Tbh I used to run that all the time I love ep brain burst

proper osprey
strong gulch
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Rending flurry VB or not. KEKW_ogryn

wet charm
jovial juniper
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Oh shit

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A rat

pulsar solar
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I'm still new to the psyker terminology and such

strong gulch
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A Rat has appeared.

pulsar solar
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All I know is I wanna be helpful to the team, kill shit, and use the greatsword because it looks fun

spare comet
gray juniper
wet charm
gray juniper
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But FGS, however they changed it, is more effective and useful overall for offense and defense. Ragers and maulers can try to hit you at max distance and you’re like ā€œsorry sweaty mine’s longerā€ šŸ’…

spare comet
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so i started using your gaze build and i suddenly started performing a thousand times better as psyker

strong gulch
# pulsar solar All I know is I wanna be helpful to the team, kill shit, and use the greatsword ...

Just killing stiff is helpful. FGS (force great sword) can be paired with anything. It's biggest weakness is mobility. So it's not generally a top pick for some staves like inferno or voidblast since those can mostly handle any target type except 1; and single target melees with good mobility covers that weakness.

FGS pairs well with EK (electrokinetic) and VS (voidstrike) staves and right side melee and gun (gunker builds).

spare comet
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<- Fell For A Gamelantern Build Again

spare comet
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I am not a free thinker when it comes to classes I don't know much about

strong gulch
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valid

vestal trench
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dude for the longest time i didnt know why zealot felt bad leveling

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it was the gameslantern build

keen cargo
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this is the ultimate loadout

vestal trench
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so i feel u

pulsar solar
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Wouldn't the crit chance aura be better for purg?

strong gulch
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That's why I just steal builds on other classes. Psyker took all of my brains.

spare comet
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i trust ainz so i just looked at his recommendations

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im doing zealot now though

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its apart of my quest to get every class to 30

strong gulch
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Ainz is very good at the game and makes mostly sound builds.

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He does make non-meta psyker suggestions to newer psykers or psykers who don't know much which can be sus.

pulsar solar
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What's the kinetic deflection for?

strong gulch
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Meta is for those with skill issue. KEKW_ogryn

Like most of us.

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Don't HAVE to play meta tho.

spare comet
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i play whatever is close enough to meta while still cool to me

pulsar solar
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I wish there was a psyker version of the Ogrynomicon

jovial juniper
strong gulch
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KD cannot explode you byw.

jovial juniper
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Has lots of synergy with Dclaw parries

pulsar solar
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I got one point left, empathetic evasion or soulstealer

keen cargo
jovial juniper
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It's viable and shit at the same time

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It deals no damage to flak armor if you don't parry

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It can parry everything melee

zinc phoenix
analog agate
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Any weapon in this game that depends on you possibly getting hit to be good is shit

pulsar solar
analog agate
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Imo

gray juniper
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@spare comet

strong gulch
strong gulch
pulsar solar
zinc phoenix
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You don’t have to use ds if you don’t want to. Force swords are totally viable staff sidearms

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Shock maul can even work

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I did a zap god shock maul build for a while that was funny šŸ˜‚

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Being able to tase stuff is also handy

gray juniper
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Give psyker the crusher

zinc phoenix
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Barbie is already a zap god

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But close range

pulsar solar
spare comet
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battle meditation feels like a trap

strong gulch
# pulsar solar Inferno, not sure about melee yet. Don't wanna be a meta slave with dueling swor...

Then I'd personally take soulstealer over EE. Soulstealer offers consistentcy.

DS4 is the easiet to slot in because of its strong single target damage and mobility, but there are other options. Things like deimos, obscurus, knife, etc. FGS does well enough against crushers that you can take that too, but you miss out on uncanny buffing the SB DoT and the better mobility of the other options.

vestal trench
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realizing I may be using surge build wrong lmao - should I have my staff out on it as much as the trauma and purgatus builds?

ive lowkey been using it mostly for elites and specials then FGS for hordes. did not notice me losing out on creeping flame value blink

analog agate
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Yes

vestal trench
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LOL

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noted, if i really wanna play FGS i'll go gaze then

strong gulch
proper osprey
pulsar solar
strong gulch
spare comet
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for the uh

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recon

vestal trench
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thats fine, i quite like gaze but good to know xP

strong gulch
pulsar solar
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I want a build for each staff, for versatility if that makes sense. Plus fun factor

strong gulch
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Pins have one for each staff

pulsar solar
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Ok

strong gulch
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they all favor shriek

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for non-havocs

pulsar solar
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Well I'm mostly doing heresy to level up weapons atm so I guess that works

vestal trench
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i find it funny that they pinned all the staff builds but not the standard gunker right below it

ripe obsidian
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Neat. Just got back to H40 on a True Survivor run. Already had the title, but a teammate didn't

strong gulch
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I am not a gunker main, so I feel uncomfortable putting one in my post. There are nuances I know that I am not familiar enough with to answer as wholly as I'd like.

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
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We got lucky on boss spawns, but unlucky on ammo spawns

vestal trench
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fair enough

ripe obsidian
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And there was a room near the end where I was sure we were toast. Or, I was sure I would be toast. Like 20 crushers + ??? bulwarks and maulers clown-carred into a room right after a drop

restive slate
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Did Psyker get an indirect nerf?

sturdy reef
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no?

tulip kettle
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if you mean braindead arbs who think theyre rambo throwing games and getting you killed

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then yes i guess

sturdy reef
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not sure what you are referring to

ripe obsidian
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Psyker got an accidental buff.

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A pretty massive one.

strong gulch
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Perfect timing is takes longer to stack and harder to maintain.

A semi decent arby or oggy that holds down W can outpace psyker tho.

elder gust
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whats a good build for havocs? just run shield?

restive slate
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Accidental buff? How?

deft stump
sturdy reef
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you dont need shielf on havocs, but I would only run non shield if you are very comfortable on psyker

deft stump
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You can max stack now in one crit.

sturdy reef
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with what

deft stump
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If I remember right.

sturdy reef
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new bug?

jovial juniper
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Yesnt

strong gulch
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Who knows.

jovial juniper
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They fixed a bug

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And the bug fix reverted mettle

deft stump
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No clue, old mettle is back.

sturdy reef
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how lmfao

deft stump
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FS coding.

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Quality stuff.

jovial juniper
strong gulch
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The mettle change mostly affects VB. Old mettle is not back because inferno would completely fill toughness quickly and consistently, but it's still mostly acting the the nerfed mettle.

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Syllo looked at the code and said it wasn't the same.

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Perfect timing can no longer stack to full in one shot tho.

deft stump
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So, just FS things?

strong gulch
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That is a nerf.

gray juniper
strong gulch
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I don't know how long perfect timing has been nerfed tho.

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Because I was talking to someone about perfect timing being different a little before the patch that fixed mettle went live.

gray juniper
spare comet
ripe obsidian
strong gulch
sturdy reef
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I never really paid attention tbh

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
sturdy reef
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wait till psyker tree reorg in 1 year

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then everyone will be taking the soulfire +tgh/crit talent

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I think the class would be fucking stupid with an ogryn style tree

strong gulch
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Perilous assault and unlucky for some will be in a worse place. KEKW_ogryn

sturdy reef
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crystalline will would become unavoidable

ripe obsidian
sturdy reef
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peril explosions should be buffed so we can become a mobile frag bomb

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but basically an entire tree dedicated to peril maxxing and intentionally blowing up

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
nocturne dust
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Everything is broken and nothing is certain

strong gulch
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ye

nocturne dust
sturdy reef
ripe obsidian
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Make wound curios valuable on someone other than Martyr Zealot

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Perilsplosion build + chance to transform into a demon at high corruption. Lose control of character, lose mission, but it would be funny.

deft stump
sturdy reef
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inb4

strong gulch
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wound curios are so prolific in the shop too

it's like people keep tossing them on the ground and brunt finds them and give them to the servitor.

sturdy reef
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they buff psyker even more

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next patch, another scrier's buff

strong gulch
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another assail buff

sturdy reef
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when BB buff

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or EP

strong gulch
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BB buff when we get new staves. Any day now.

restive slate
sturdy reef
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I think that would be a bit excessive

restive slate
sturdy reef
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and take over assail's niche

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it should be better against single target

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let me pop a crusher in 2 BB's

strong gulch
sturdy reef
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without EP

restive slate
sturdy reef
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that would be a good add

restive slate
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A 3rd subnode to BB blitz

strong gulch
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Just make KR part of BB

sturdy reef
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Id like that

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and give BB actual modifier nodes

pulsar solar
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Asking for a generalist arbites seems useless atm, got completely drowned out lol

sturdy reef
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the other blitz's have actual modifiers

ripe obsidian
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BB causing AoE suppression would be neat.

tulip kettle
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even just let BB one shut gunners in havoc 40 would be nice

brazen rampart
restive slate
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Or rework bb to deal damage proportionate to charge time, we can release the charge anytime

gray juniper
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@spare comet

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I’ve shared it a few times already but everything is accurate as is including the curios. Yes I’m using 3 stamina on one. It’s one of the only 3 curios above 410 I have but it does help a lot.

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The extra stamina helps a lot on blocks against strong enemies and closing the gap to get to gunners

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You can run gaze almost constantly on this if you want. It refills quick enough

brazen light
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i havent played in awhile but dont you get which skill you have by your weapon? any tips would be appreciated

wet charm
pine shore
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Some specials might as well not exist, like on staves

wet charm
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squeak (however you can judge the value of the build based on the gameplay)

gray juniper
proper osprey
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@spare comet pick a weapon that you like and run with it, my builds that I make are my own personal generalist builds

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Didn’t mean to ping the other dude oops

brazen light
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im streaming if its easier for yall to help me out

wet charm
sacred crane
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did they fix penetration of soul yet

pine shore
proper osprey
brazen light
jovial juniper
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Yes
Still shit

gray juniper
wet charm
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squeak (just the staff. Think of it as an attack pattern or skill set for each weapon)

pine shore
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I feel like this rat rp will get insanely annoying in an hour

wet charm
deft stump
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A wild Rat has appeared?! Patpats @wet charm .

analog agate
wet charm
ripe bear
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beloved, this dream has become a nightmare

wet charm
ripe bear
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why nerf

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insane

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already weak class getting nerfed

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gg

sturdy reef
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psyker worst class yes yes

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buff man wizard class yes yes

gray juniper
ripe bear
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yes beloved i do think we need a buff

jovial juniper
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In fact

ripe bear
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lie

jovial juniper
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Got buffed

ripe bear
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lie

jovial juniper
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I'm not

ripe bear
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nerf fire

jovial juniper
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They didn't

ripe bear
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-.-

jovial juniper
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It was a bug fix

ripe bear
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nerf

jovial juniper
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The same bug fix

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That buffed mettle

gray juniper
jovial juniper
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You can go from 0 to 100% toughness in 1 CRIT

gray juniper
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Seriously seriously leave as is but fix the tree some

ripe bear
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.>

jovial juniper
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Once again

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No Nerf

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Accidental buff

pine shore
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what are you talking about

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what got nerfed

ripe obsidian
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Lemme find my video again...

jovial juniper
pine shore
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But it got buffed?

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Not nerfed

gray juniper
jovial juniper
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Yeah

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They fixed the bug where burning enemies would activate Mettle and Perfect Strike

ripe obsidian
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Here.

jovial juniper
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Then whatever they did

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Brought a versions of old mettle back

gray juniper
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I mean… 5% toughness is weak af if I’m being honest. It’s my always carry for speed though

jovial juniper
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5%

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For all targets hit

ripe obsidian
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Video displays mettle.

pine shore
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5% per enemy hit

strong gulch
pine shore
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are you insane?

jovial juniper
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Nope

pine shore
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5% is a fuck ton

jovial juniper
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Couldn't proc on all enemies hit before this hotfix

pine shore
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yes

ripe bear
# ripe obsidian

seems like its only good on that staff and a big nerf for gunpysker

jovial juniper
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Can proc on all hit after this hot fix

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No nerf only buffs

pine shore
jovial juniper
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Nothing ever happens

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šŸ—£ļø

ripe obsidian
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It is also good on purgatus, and I imagine assail

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And anything that hits more than one target at a time

brazen compass
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Shield fuckin

SUCKS

zinc phoenix
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well it turns out i can hard carry and clutch a pox gas tox bomber h20

pine shore
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It either didn't change anything or it got better

zinc phoenix
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with multiple full downs

jovial juniper
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It got better

zinc phoenix
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and i will never ever ever do that again

gray juniper
# pine shore 5% per enemy hit

Oh never mind that’s probably pretty decent depending how often critical hit comes. I can’t quantify that myself though

ripe obsidian
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It is fascinating to me that people come in here claiming Psyker is a weak class.

jovial juniper
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Fire Trauma is currently easy mode

pine shore
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Psyker is 3rd strongest imo

jovial juniper
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2

pine shore
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3

zinc phoenix
ripe obsidian
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Ogryn > Psyker > Arby > Zealot > Veteran

pine shore
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no way arby is worse

jovial juniper
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Yes they are

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Too stagger focused

pine shore
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I don't believe

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you

jovial juniper
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When death is the best stagger

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Then psyker shows up with infinite ammo

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High stagger

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Higher finesse

ripe obsidian
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Fire Trauma does everything Arby does from a distance

strong gulch
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heck this sentence

typing hard

jovial juniper
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Infinite cleave

gray juniper
pine shore
gray juniper
jovial juniper
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In fact

jovial juniper
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I think Arby's and Zealot fight for 3rd place

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Zealot simply outfinesses/outdodges arby

gray juniper
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Nah i disagree

ripe bear
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number 1 for fun

pine shore
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No way you are thinking about putting arbiter as a 2nd worst class

ripe bear
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vet 5th for fun

jovial juniper
gray juniper
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Arby is up there. Much bigger health pool, huge toughness regeneration, sizable bag of tricks and strong weapons

sturdy reef
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I think arby is better than zealot

gray juniper
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Definitely

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If psyker is second place he’s sharing it with arby

jovial juniper
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Nah

sturdy reef
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psyker is outside the other 4

jovial juniper
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Psyker second place undisputed

gray juniper
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Agree to disagree my fren

ripe bear
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yes random discord user pysker is 2nd ofc

jovial juniper
gray juniper
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Played auric the other day and some dumb vet player shot a pox burster at point blank in front of both of us. I had 3 health left

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This is on a build taking more toughness

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That’s such a big disadvantage comparative to many things when survivability is paramount

jovial juniper
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You need 201 HP to survive 2 bursters

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With sniper res

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2 sniper shots

gray juniper
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Yes that’s what you’d think. For whatever reason the game decided that one burster was enough to almost kill me

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You literally can’t afford any oopsies

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Auric maelstrom to clarify. I don’t know if there’s a damage modifier just for maelstrom either

jovial juniper
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You take damnation level damage

ripe obsidian
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Done with Purgatus, so take it for what it's worth, but this was satisfying:

gray juniper
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Well that’s what the game gave me regardless of what it’s supposed to do

ripe obsidian
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Purgatus in a narrow area on H40

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No shriek

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Just Perilous Combustion going wild

gray juniper
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Wow

jovial juniper
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What infinite cleave does to the realspace

proper osprey
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Purg kill feed is soooo satisfying

ripe obsidian
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It is the reason I play it instead of Trauma

gray juniper
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It’s cool in its own way and it’s hated on for it but the flame barrage is cool itself. Just feels like less skill involved with the shot itself

potent echo
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Give staves alternate marks please fatshark..

zinc phoenix
strong gulch
# gray juniper What?

Trauma / VB stuggles with stairs and grated surfaces. IDK if you've even put down a bubble only for it to go through the floor, VB has the same issue.

ripe obsidian
zinc phoenix
strong gulch
zinc phoenix
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I play blissfully unmodded personally

ripe obsidian
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I do use mods, aye. But playing solo is not as much fun

north hatch
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I need to reinstall my mods

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But I'm so lazy

strong gulch
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It's definitely different.

nocturne dust
north hatch
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I need the mod that lets you have weapon customization again

ripe obsidian
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Anyone wanna do Auric Mortis to work toward the new memory penance?

nocturne dust
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I would but I'm probably indisposed for the rest of the day šŸ˜”

strong gulch
plucky flax
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They dont give insignia so that's a pass

ripe obsidian
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I only have the energy for 1-2 maps. Pretty exhausted

plucky flax
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Only played mortis for hats

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
ripe obsidian
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Well then

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I have done 20 mortis trials total

plucky flax
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I can play havoc instead

ripe obsidian
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I'd be up for that. I got 40 earlier today, so I stand to lose nothing

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Give me like 5 minutes

strong gulch
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I can do a havoc

pine shore
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I have one last havoc, I am at 40 currently and I need to beat it

plucky flax
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I need to make coffee

pine shore
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If you allow it, I'd love to join you once you are up

plucky flax
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Don't see why not

pine shore
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Will my havoc 40 ever reset once I get it?

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Or is my grind complete

nocturne dust
pine shore
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fuck

ripe obsidian
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I return

strong gulch
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I can't remember if H40 is subjects to the weekly degrade thing

nocturne dust
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Afaik it still is

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You can't derank by playing, but you can derank by not playing

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Fatshark never learning from their mistakes šŸ˜„

pine shore
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The whole deranking thing should just be gone

nocturne dust
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Not one sane person has said it should stay

strong gulch
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messing around in game untile we group up

ripe obsidian
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It's probably for engagement. Though I'd wonder how much extra engagement they get versus people who just don't play havoc because deranking sucks

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It's probably better if someone not-me starts the party. Good chance I'll be NA-West and cause issues for Agent

plucky flax
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Beans are you east?

strong gulch
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ye

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am east

plucky flax
#

You inv the peeps.

nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

You are our leader. ikneel

ripe obsidian
#

I just played an H40 with a level 1250ish psyker using FGS+Trauma with the Surge blessing

pine shore
#

based

ripe obsidian
#

They did well, but I haven't seen that one before

strong gulch
#

kk

verbal thistle
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surge affects left click for faster suppression and single target

strong gulch
verbal thistle
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and it gives crit chance (if they are using blazing)

pine shore
#

is 9176478001

ripe obsidian
#

Yes, they were. I mean, I know Surge is for LMB, I just haven't seen someone run it before on Trauma

nocturne dust
#

Used to not be available on EK

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buuuuut not sure that trauma was ever the choice

nocturne dust
#

lol

potent echo
nocturne dust
potent echo
nocturne dust
#

if you're below 40, you can still derank

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by playing

nocturne dust
potent echo
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I would be very upset

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If I played havocs

strong gulch
#

the derank is stupid

gray juniper
potent echo
#

Me but with the arbites vox

nocturne dust
gray juniper
#

That’s something they absolutely have to fix themselves and they know it

nocturne dust
#

They've had years

potent echo
#

It's a keybind mod so it's forcefully blocking all cancels

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Idk if fatshark wants this

sturdy reef
#

the guarantee weapon swap mod makes it so you cant QQ cancel staves

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but I still prefer running it since I dont QQ swap anyway

nocturne dust
sturdy reef
#

I couldnt do the QQ cancel with the mod

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it at least messes with the timings

nocturne dust
#

I'm able to do it with the mod

sturdy reef
#

mebbe skill issue on my part, it isnt consistent for me with the mod

strong gulch
#

ggs

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havocs were havocing

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oh right. buy a deimos

ripe obsidian
#

I am consistently impressed and annoyed at Agent's damage output

strong gulch
#

nice. just had to buy 1

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

I definitely feel more comfortable on the Forceful Arby build than EO

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Especially since I can't ping properly since the hotfix

strong gulch
#

Ok. Now I have a deimos and won't try to block bullets with a DS.

sturdy reef
#

do u guys wanna try my 40 again lol

deft stump
strong gulch
deft stump
#

At least my oggy gets away with it since slab.

strong gulch
sturdy reef
#

okie

#

who wants to do a 40

ripe obsidian
#

Me jealous. >:(

#

Me want big number

ripe obsidian
deft stump
strong gulch
sturdy reef
#

1 more spot, any takers?

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Like, I think I'm good at the game, not great. I can pretty consistently win H40 with randoms on at least 3 classes, even if one feels like cheating b/c Chorus OP

deft stump
strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

But Agent is just on another level. Much damage, such dodges, wow

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
#

I aspire to be orange cat himbo KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
#

voids

ripe obsidian
deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

I had to get a second hammock. They both wanted to use it

sturdy reef
#

@nocturne dust @plucky flax h40 runback?

ripe obsidian
#

Agent is going to work

sturdy reef
#

oh right

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EU time

summer prairie
#

I'll play one

sturdy reef
#

nice

marble crater
sturdy reef
deft stump
nocturne dust
marble crater
# deft stump Wot.

Orange cats have the stereotype of being super friendly and sweet but also being batshit crazy and having mega zoomies

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So, you are an orange cat loregryn

plucky flax
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I have a job unlike some other guy from EU here.

deft stump
north hatch
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They run around like they're on crack

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And then break things

deft stump
north hatch
#

Oh

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Idk do you do that?

deft stump
#

How am I mega zoomies?

marble crater
north hatch
#

Have you tried crack?

spare comet
#

<- proud orange cat owner

north hatch
#

Maybe you'll be mega zoomies then

north hatch
deft stump
north hatch
#

What's SG

spare comet
north hatch
unborn flicker
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For a buff to psyker

north hatch
#

But wht

blissful solar
#

singapore probably call of duty one-shot no-scopes you for doing one drug particle

north hatch
#

Why

unborn flicker
#

The amount we are punished in havoc versus the amount of sway we have on the battlefield is just not equivalent

deft stump
unborn flicker
#

With how soft and squishy we are, you would think we’d be able to make more of an impact

plucky flax
#

I do drugs in sg.

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They can't catch me.

deft stump
marble crater
north hatch
blissful solar
marble crater
vestal trench
#

how pressin gaze feels like

deft stump
north hatch
#

Aren't the only classes that are like super good in havoc just ogryns and cops?

glass laurel
#

Hello psykerers

north hatch
#

Hello vermintide 2

marble crater
#

Hello traitor

plucky flax
north hatch
#

I need to get on the cop grind

vestal trench
#

psyker more like dogwaterker

deft stump
north hatch
#

I have an idea for how we buff psyker

deft stump
#

No weird stuff like hitting a sniper 40m away on the hed with a grenade stuff.

north hatch
#

They let us be this guy

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And then boom

#

Strongest class

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Ez pz

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If that's too much then I will accept mephiston as a substitute

deft stump
plucky flax
#

Even though it's weakest and do no damage and die to 1 hit.

young cliff
#

i have been exposed to the madness that is Voidblast Gaze, its...addictive... specially since i made it run with both brain burst perks

vestal trench
#

.......this whole psyker bad shit's a bit right

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i cant tell anymore

young cliff
#

idk if its "good" but it kinda works

vestal trench
#

same way i cant tell if the whole "im not unsanctionedpsyker" thing is a bit anymore

plucky flax
#

No one knows who the real unsanctioned is.

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A lot of imposters around but I think the real one is @marble crater

deft stump
young cliff
#

@plucky flax Tell me you that knows the warp: is the Arby doing so much damage that is actually racing Psyker on dps while being so tanky?

vestal trench
#

i am alpharius behavior

plucky flax
vestal trench
#

the class feels like it has a lot of potential for strength to me but hard to pilot

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but that doesnt make it need a buff...? or is the squishiness that bad lmao

plucky flax
#

Also if there's a skullcrusher ogryn then the arby's damage skyrockets.

young cliff
plucky flax
#

27 mins game the arby does so much damage to boss when ogryn hit it with him.

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I don't think I've been beaten by arby yet though as psyker unless I die for like 5 mins.

proper osprey
#

Melee psyker will still out dps Arby

young cliff
#

then i just have to git gud to pull my weight

proper osprey
#

So will zealot

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For whatever reason

plucky flax
#

Just don't play bubble knight into pus modifier.

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It's not a good time. Sitgryn

young cliff
#

makes sense

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pus mod is made to make us suffer

plucky flax
#

Assails get gimped and the warp slice also is categorised as 'range damage' so it's also gimped.

#

It's very sad.

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My fav staff surge is also unplayable in pus.

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Pus is the anti me.

young cliff
#

Why obesefish hates us using gun in gun game?

plucky flax
#

Who said psyker got nerf when hotfix dropped? whatthefuck_heresy

proper osprey
#

Sorry

plucky flax
#

Thank you. ikneel

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I heard psyker is unplayable after this nerf.

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Good to know the nerf/fix/whatever was done is a meme and nothing was actually changed.

nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

Who knows my burn source is recon las and it crits constantly anyway.

nocturne dust
#

yeh, that's what I said when I saw the 'nerf' KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
#

I dunno what nerf.

#

Or fix.

spare comet
#

should i run deflection/shred on fgs

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or wrath/shred

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im thinking the former

plucky flax
#

Maybe shred unstable? thinkies

spare comet
#

also possible

proper osprey
#

Shred and wrath are something you can’t go wrong with

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Tbh even when I have deflector I never use it

plucky flax
#

If I can play without wrath in havoc then you don't need it for cleave.

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Just use the special as cleavage.

spare comet
#

that's what im thinking

#

lol

proper osprey
#

Use precog

plucky flax
#

No that's too hard.

proper osprey
#

Fgs with dd

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And precog

proper osprey
#

Use the dodge

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@spare comet fr don’t sleep on precog lol the fgs already has insane finesse

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Until I brought it into havoc it was my go too

spare comet
#

i dont trust that

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i think ima do deflector/shred

proper osprey
#

He listened to one person call da build poopy shit and now it’s terrible

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It’s true doe all my builds are terrible

spare comet
#

thoughts on bolt pistol for gunker

plucky flax
#

Bistol is based on any class.

#

My fav gun PeepoHappy

proper osprey
#

I see the problem I’m running talents

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We don’t need dem

plucky flax
#

Keystoneless melee is best build.

spare comet
#

i slept on perilous combustion

proper osprey
#

He don’t need dat but it’s nice

young cliff
#

I put a step into gaze staff and now I crave for more, but I feel that still have to make adjustments while using it with VB

proper osprey
#

Gaze vb

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Is peak

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Constant tweaking

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Tbh I find I have more survivability with dd vb than warp charges vb

spare comet
young cliff
proper osprey
young cliff
#

Busted

proper osprey
#

Pc is nice when you have dots to compliment it

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Example

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You have a horde of like 14 shotgunners

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And your dd just appeared on them (neuron activation) so you pop gaze and much the 14 shotgunners in like 5 seconds with 15 stacks of dd amd gaze

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Pc didn’t kill anything

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You have inferno or vb

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You kill 5 and damage the rest badly

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Pc cleans them up

proper osprey
young cliff
proper osprey
#

People hated me for gaze vb šŸ„€

#

Observe

young cliff
ripe obsidian
#

0 damage taken H40

proper osprey
proper osprey
ripe obsidian
#

You were not even in the game

proper osprey
strong gulch
proper osprey
sturdy reef
#

I dont think I've gotten that amount of boss dps even with oggy

ripe obsidian
#

These are fine voids

sturdy reef
#

but then again there were always 2 oggys

sturdy reef
ripe obsidian
plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

I think you pulled waaaay ahead of me in the last couple bosses. Before that we were like 30k damage apart

strong gulch
#

The cats names are Copy and Paste @ripe obsidian @proper osprey

ripe obsidian
#

As for scoreboard, it's Ovenproof + @summer prairie 's fix

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These are good cat names

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My void is Katterdemalia, my poof is Poobus

sturdy reef
#

kk

ripe obsidian
#

Your companion damage was like 30% higher than mine. Was that just from better tagging, better dogbomb usage, I guess?

sturdy reef
#

I think I tagged more

ripe obsidian
#

I am having issues with tagging. It'll tag once, then stop

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But even still, I am not the best at it

sturdy reef
ripe obsidian
#

Based on kills, I assume mine got more lesser enemies while yours got more elites/specials

sturdy reef
#

this is my boss build with the non stagger aura

#

since you already covered that aura

ripe obsidian
#

Ah, you also had doggo brittleness

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I don't

sturdy reef
#

they insta pop the ranged elites with it basically

#

since the bleed double stacks on human sized enemies

ripe obsidian
#

This is the build I was using

strong gulch
sturdy reef
#

I used to run adamant will, but I figured that non of arbites' weapons have that much swing time

#

if they get like a greatsword or gratclub equivalent slower than the crusher I would prob run it

ripe obsidian
#

When standing in your disco ball, I facetanked a burster without taking any damage

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I also pick Adamant Will for escaping fire

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Since it prevents fire from slowing you

sturdy reef
#

ah true

ripe obsidian
#

And I dunno what I would take instead

sturdy reef
#

arbites revelatum

ripe obsidian
#

Also, @summer prairie and/or @plucky flax, Quietude or One with the Warp? Deimos + Purgatus

sturdy reef
#

the +dmg on dodge

ripe obsidian
#

I dropped that node for doggo bleed

summer prairie
#

the patch only touched mettle/perfect timing so not a surprise EE still works like that

ripe obsidian
#

But I do like the QoL of Adamant Will. I'm sure the +damage on dodge would be a nice DPS increase, but I am not sure if I want to drop the stun immunity

summer prairie
#

I currently have quietude but one with the warp might be better

ripe obsidian
#

I'm using OwtW for the reason that with Purgatus I have enough poxwalkers dying constantly for soulstealer that an extra bit of quell toughness isn't necessary. Also I only ever quell like 20-30% at a time

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So I take OwtW for a bit of added tankiness for when I do get hit, hoping it will do less damage

patent jacinth
ripe obsidian
#

No

#

I don't want those

proper osprey
ripe obsidian
#

Nothing in my build is worth dropping for that imo

proper osprey
#

Free 16 str on weakspot is crazy

patent jacinth
#

For 20% weakspot strength and 16% crit?

ripe obsidian
#

I mean

proper osprey
#

Kinda silly

ripe obsidian
#

It's a lot of damage, sure

#

But I just did an H40 taking 0 damage and doing 90% as much damage as someone with those nodes

summer prairie
#

The crit is whatever

sturdy reef
#

the crit is alright unless you are running taxe

#

then its basically required

ripe obsidian
#

I'll try a few runs with the +damage on dodge instead of Adamant Will and see how I feel. Not tonight, but eventually

summer prairie
#

He was running nuncio though

proper osprey
sturdy reef
#

nuncio is prob my fav support ability rn

proper osprey
#

I have a tac axe build I’m working on

#

Having trouble putting a point somewhere

ripe obsidian
#

Can't really compare accurately since our builds are different past the combat ability

ripe obsidian
proper osprey
#

I don’t think his shock maul needs it

#

It needs cleave and I love my toughness talents

sturdy reef
#

dis is what I've been liking on the taxe

#

I do have a BTL version

ripe obsidian
#

It would be more damage, sure, and it might hit breakpoints. But I am happy with my build and my performance on it, so I don't really feel the need to give up 2-3 nodes to get more damage

warm pagoda
#

Psyker-class
look inside
arbitrator discussion

ripe obsidian
#

You know it

sturdy reef
#

wake me up when FS messes up and gives psyker tree the ogryn treatment

plucky flax
proper osprey
plucky flax
#

Also i have quietude and no soulstealer to path it there

sturdy reef
#

I dont think rapid movement is really necessary

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

Trading off some damage to get more survivability

plucky flax
#

I just vibe and hope I dont get shot

ripe obsidian
#

I am not as good as you. >:(

#

This is known

plucky flax
#

Nah youre good im just lucky. And use more cheat mods

#

I have auto dodge mod and a mod to show optimal run path

#

Like arrows on the floor

#

Very secret very pro

#

Unsanctioned stuff

sturdy reef
#

heresy

ripe obsidian
#

I think the cheatiest mod I actually use is either the AOE display so I know where fire actually ends or the thing that shows debuff stacks

sturdy reef
#

I use the AoE mod for medkits

#

because otherwise there is too much vfx going on in havoc for me to tell

strong gulch
sturdy reef
#

ya

strong gulch
#

I think that's it

#

kk

sturdy reef
#

ik there is a daemonhost equivalent

#

but I can tell without it, so I never use it

ripe obsidian
#

Danger Zone does that too

sturdy reef
#

oh yeah

#

I just dont turn it on

strong gulch
#

I swear that mod is the only thing that actually help know that a burster is somewhere

ripe obsidian
#

Yeahhhh

sturdy reef
#

actually

#

wait

ripe obsidian
#

It helps a lot with that

sturdy reef
#

it isnt danger zone

#

that doesnt cover the medkits

strong gulch
#

hmm, i can't remember

#

ur right that the med kit is not danger zone

sturdy reef
#

I might actually go for a perfect block build on the arbites with this

plucky flax
sturdy reef
#

ya its cursed

#

ik

ripe obsidian
#

Curse you, R3msky. You have gotten me second-guessing my build again. >:( Well, minmaxing individual nodes, at least.

sturdy reef
#

lol

#

I do it to myself all the time lmao

dusky bear
#

i gotta relearn psyker and remake all my builds at the same time pain

sturdy reef
#

there's your tutorial

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Yes.

#

It increases flaming over 50%

#

Steal all ammo from veterans, blow up barrels, blow up bursters

potent echo
#

Refuse to press F for dome

#

Also are we in the wildfire era now

#

No one questions wildfire pick anymore

sturdy reef
#

wildfire is ramp

#

its fine

#

not amazing, not bad

#

also you dont have to play dome, but ya gotta be good enough and with someone else taking a defensive ability

fiery stratus
#

did recent changes make soulblaze any less broken?

deft stump
strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

Good job. The flame must grow

strong gulch
#

many boom

deft stump
#

So many ppl running BM now.

marble crater
spare comet
#

you ever just look at random people's builds in the mourningstar for fun

glacial vapor
#

I don't like traumatising myself like that

glacial vapor
#

Seems alright tbh

ripe obsidian
#

This looks similar to my "turn off brain and LMB" meleeker build

#

No thought, no assail weaving

#

Just press F and butcher heretics

fiery stratus
#

pfft

#

let me show you a good build

strong gulch
#

my version of turn off brain is EK or assail trauma

ripe obsidian
#

I haven't used EK since before Havoc launched

strong gulch
#

no keystone psyker

let's goooo

spare comet
glacial vapor
#

The keystoneless psyker build is real

ripe obsidian
#

I played an H40 today where the other psyker was blaze trauma and I was rending trauma. The heretics had a Bad Time

fiery stratus
#

It is for Arbites too

marble crater
fiery stratus
#

Boy do I wish these were bait

strong gulch
fiery stratus
#

this is horrifying

strong gulch
#

🫔

marble crater
#

Double blocked

strong gulch
#

It's my precious. 😭

marble crater
#

It's time to throw it into Mt Doom

spare comet
#

-# Why did he take Warp Expenditure

#

-# Why?

deft stump
ripe obsidian
strong gulch
marble crater
strong gulch
spare comet
#

Thank you random Mourningstar player for the idea

#

-# I just had to take Warp Expenditure off there

fiery stratus
deft stump
fiery stratus
#

Someone run this with recon las and tell me how good it is

spare comet
#

@ripe obsidian What ranged do you use for it?

marble crater
ripe obsidian
deft stump
#

Is 4:23pm.

unborn stag
#

🫵 raging laspistol

ripe obsidian
#

Oh, yours is slightly different. You have the SG node that stops headsploding. I don't bother with that b/c I have nothing to generate peril besides push-attack or warp slice on FGS

marble crater
spare comet
spare comet
#

I was thinking swapping Psykinetic's Aura for Wildfire

ripe obsidian
#

Instead I take the movespeed or TDR one. I can't recall which

strong gulch
unborn stag
marble crater
#

Dropping Psy Aura for Wildfire is wild indeed

spare comet
dusky bear
#

is crit void blast/strike viable now?

marble crater
#

They always have been

dusky bear
#

blazing spirit?

marble crater
#

For blast yes, for strike not

dusky bear
#

does surge still only affect void blasts primary?

marble crater
#

Yes

dusky bear
#

thanks sutvvoo waggyheart

marble crater
strong gulch
# spare comet well i have fgs / voidblast right now but i was probably going to swap to fgs / ...

Voidblast might be a lot to handle when SG is on cooldown. Not having perfect time would be sad for that.

bistol can take a long time reloading and have to do it often so active SG time would be wasted if you're using the gun a lot.

keeping DD stacks might be hard to do

that's my thoughts which more or less mean that melee is gonna be your main weapon.

You could do the niche arco build witch is rending shockwave with blazing spirit VB. It relies on true aim for crit and is used to set up ur melee hits or when things get spicy.

#

If were to do the build for me, I'd take assail instad of BB.

potent echo
#

Because SB procs PC now KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
#

and KF

potent echo
#

Guh

spare comet
potent echo
#

FGS bolt pistol is my favourite build chadgryn

spare comet
#

wait wasn't this higher at one point