#psyker-class

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vestal trench
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lmfao jesus christ, understood

gray juniper
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Yea ngl it sucks in some ways. I use it only for stagger to close the distance, interrupt gunners or buy breathing room. But it still serves a decent purpose while causing some damage

plucky flax
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It never happened.

serene stream
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I was heavily relying on the on-crit, 1 sec dodge range attacks, from the fire ticks, in higher difficulties [especially havoc]

serene stream
plucky flax
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It was from the torrent of your flame staff.

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Not from the dot.

vestal trench
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game should make melee staff viable KEKW_ogryn

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psyker but it's sifu

unborn flicker
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And the goddamn special

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Is to whack

vestal trench
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based

unborn flicker
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Whoever the psyker dev is, I’d like a word

gray juniper
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Kinda ballsy ngl

vestal trench
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ancient technique from psyker teacher to psyker student, primarily when psyker student is fucking up

heady maple
serene stream
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You've heard Boot to the Head, now prepare for Stick to the Head

vestal trench
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i wanna see a world's first havoc 40 primarily building around staff melee

stone totem
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It kind of carries my poopoo dclaw/revolver build

stone totem
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Cracked on Scrier's too

unborn flicker
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It’s because you can actually use it on the go and it does both cc and damage

vestal trench
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ayo how were the dclaw buffs?

stone totem
unborn flicker
stone totem
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But tbf last time I used dclaw pre-buff was on zealot so

unborn flicker
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I’m using it now

stone totem
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Bit of a difference between psyker and zealot melee

vestal trench
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i used it to pair with plasma on vet w/ weapon spec

unborn flicker
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It got buffed?

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Parry is goated

vestal trench
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yea bunch of weaps got buffed with the cop update

unborn flicker
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I thought that was at a later date

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They gave us a preview

vestal trench
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nope, same patch

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just double checked rn too

plucky flax
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The dog walking around accidentally bump into an enemy and that gives them 8 stacks of bleed. Seems legit.

unborn flicker
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seems the same

vestal trench
prime elk
plucky flax
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@deft stump do you want to carry us in h40 or you already did it this week.

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?

gray juniper
verbal thistle
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assail

gray juniper
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Venting shriek has a long ass cool down if you don’t take warp siphon though. Maybe they could split the middle the middle on cool down time

unborn flicker
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Can’t spell assail without ass

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Jk, it’s good

oak echo
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This work on specialists and disablers or only on maulers/gunners/ragers?

verbal thistle
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only elites

oak echo
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Shotgunners considered an elite or a specialist?

lone ravine
oak echo
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Huh. Guess someone must have killed it when I blew up

gray juniper
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Yes shotgunners are

verbal thistle
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page 5

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shows each type of enemy

marble crater
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Okay the new auric difficulty is noticeable loregryn

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That's good

vestal trench
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oh so it and damnation actually get easier last patch? it wasn't just vibes?

covert saffron
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All the specialists are grouped together in the psykanium, and the elites are the ones not in that group, idk why the elites aren't grouped up tight like that but yeah

deft stump
vestal trench
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wallahi im cooked, damnation already makes me sweat rip

indigo thunder
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How to kill the damn bosses with Psyker?

marble crater
hollow current
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gun

covert saffron
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poke em in the eye

marble crater
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Let the ogryn deal with it

indigo thunder
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I poke them with ds but it barely tickles them compared to other classes

covert saffron
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Yeah they're not a boss killing specialist like ogryn and zealot can be

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but they can still put out decent damage

hearty wolf
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I feel fulfilled

prime elk
gray juniper
hollow current
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I typed in "gun wizard" in the gif thingy and it came up

frail escarp
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good to know ty ffor testing it

hearty wolf
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@strong gulch @nocturne dust going to nap now since I think this is when I'm supposed to sleep before we begin gaming

plucky flax
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@deft stump already playing.

deft stump
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Or later, I dunno. Just poke me whenever.

ripe obsidian
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Doggo bleed got fixed. Is it a must-take for dog builds now?

dull scroll
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absolute taker

plucky flax
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It won't show up on scoreboard though.

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So it's a nerf to your ego.

dull scroll
summer prairie
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did you know smite heavy attacks shock dot also doesn't

ripe obsidian
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I liked the idea of it before, but it didn't work, so I avoided it

dull scroll
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but honestly even the pistol doggo bleed is like ~150k, nothing noteworthy on paper, but very good practically due to the burst

unborn flicker
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Gah why is arbites playing doom while the rest of us are playing dark souls

ripe obsidian
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Because it has 800 TDR nodes

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And 700 damage reduction ones

gentle hamlet
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500,000 dockets later

zinc phoenix
patent steeple
marble crater
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It's still the best roll

ripe obsidian
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Wait, why does the dog bleed sometimes give 16 stacks now? What.

dusk pasture
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"Fixed an issue where Psyker 'on critical hit' talents would trigger when burn stacks are active on enemies."
is that mean they nerfed inferno staff + crit build?

dull scroll
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I spent a fortune on this, but now I don't even use it anymore, the normal 60 res is better, vent CD just can't keep up with pic, too hot

gentle hamlet
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I don’t really have an issue with peril, if anything with my 60 wr staff I cant built it a fast enough

gentle hamlet
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Like I loose toughness way too fast with warp nexus and mettle

marble crater
# marble crater No

It was bugged, now it's fixed again. Nothing changed really, I didn't notice any difference in my psyker game earlier

dusk pasture
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ufff

patent steeple
ripe obsidian
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Testing briefly, the dog bleed fix increases DPS by almost double on human-sized enemies. Something like a 30% increase on Ogryns

jovial juniper
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Dog legit has a crazier version of ogryns Bullrush pulverize

ripe obsidian
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I'm going from ~350 DPS on a mauler to ~600

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It also refreshes the bleed each attack if an enemy is pinned

marble crater
patent steeple
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also, btw, I feel like having 60 mobility on a dclaw is not enough for my psyker playstyle (I think at least 65-70 mobility would be enough for me, just because with 60 my dodge range is slightly too garbage...).

jovial juniper
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Ogryn 2 ton dog

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Small dog mecha dog

ripe obsidian
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~330 to ~600 DPS on a Scab Rager as well. This bleed is actually OP

jovial juniper
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16 stacks of bleed

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Bloodletter dog

ripe obsidian
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This is my new build. Blood for the Blood Dog.

unborn flicker
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The dog emperor of reject kind

marble crater
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"Purgatus is not played with crits since we have access to blaze away. Peoples still using crit purgatus either dont know how crits works or dont have clues of game's mechanics. " whatthefuck_heresy

jovial juniper
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Whatever. Go my cyber mastiff

young cliff
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Was the Psyker perk that gives you peril for faster reload fixed? I remember it still gives you 25% instead of 15%

marble crater
unborn flicker
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Redditors are literally the worst people to have darktide discussions with

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They think they are gods gift to havoc

summer prairie
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Seems like mettle can proc multiple times per attack and perfect timing can't. One voidstrike shot gives all toughness back with just mettle

patent steeple
young cliff
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I don't think purgatus should need crits, but is not something bad, what are this folks thinking? That they get less damage on crit?

jovial juniper
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They brought old mettle back

unborn flicker
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Don’t dodge

patent steeple
jovial juniper
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Alright

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VoidSTRIKE buff

unborn flicker
unborn flicker
marble crater
patent steeple
ripe obsidian
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I do not have Soulstealer

unborn flicker
jovial juniper
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5% toughness

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And 5% move speed for 4 seconds that stacks 3 times

summer prairie
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Trauma also gives back all toughness

ripe obsidian
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This seems unintended

marble crater
jovial juniper
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Possibly

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Until fixed

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Psyker buffs

unborn flicker
marble crater
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We are so back

ripe obsidian
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True Aim + Mettle Trauma meta when?

unborn flicker
ripe obsidian
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Probably unintentional. Mettle was nerfed a while ago to be one stack per attack, not per enemy hit

unborn flicker
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Because if we can do this, I’ll be a lot happier with pysker

analog agate
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Yeah. They intentionally nerfed it. Doubt they would do that and then not announce the change

summer prairie
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EK can proc mettle twice on one target

ripe obsidian
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Pfft

unborn flicker
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For the love of god emperor, fatshark don’t nerf this

unborn flicker
summer prairie
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surge staff

ripe obsidian
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tbh it probably should be nerfed again. Even if I do want my Psyker to generate toughness like an Arbites

unborn flicker
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It’s only on kills right?

analog agate
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When it was old mettle VB staff was insane. You couldn’t take damage ever

ripe obsidian
analog agate
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Now you have to dodge

unborn flicker
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Oh shit

summer prairie
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but it's old mettle again

marble crater
ripe obsidian
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Blood for the Blood Dog, Crits for the Crit Psyker

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10/10 hotfix, totally balanced

marble crater
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Not 10/10, people are mad about the arby cloaks showing the number now

gray juniper
vestal trench
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is the general risk/reward ratio of psyker being a glass cannon generally well-received across difficulties? like, is the strength worth the squishiness?

marble crater
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Yes

gray juniper
marble crater
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Psyker scales very well into higher density and difficulty

gray juniper
vestal trench
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awesome, good to know. I love playing those archetypes but too often other games make it feel like working harder for marginal gains

summer prairie
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and of course FGS beam proces mettle a million times on crit

vestal trench
gray juniper
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I’m torrent beat cop btw

vestal trench
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some people just didn't like it on the cape aesthetically

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which is subjective, theyre well within their rights not to tbh

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hope they just add an option so everyone's happy

ripe obsidian
vestal trench
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then again, it might be a GW mandate what

ripe obsidian
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See: politics literally everywhere in the world

gray juniper
ripe obsidian
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From Kitefin: "We’re currently investigating an issue introduced in Hotfix #70 where precinct decals are showing in Arbites capes. "

gray juniper
unborn flicker
ripe obsidian
gray juniper
ripe obsidian
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But I am going to stop waxing political before I say dumb things.

unborn flicker
gray juniper
unborn flicker
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Shield is superior

gray juniper
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Circling enemies and pounding them with lasgun head shots until moving on to the next one

unborn flicker
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I can’t outrun 8 gunners

sinful peak
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hello can anyone join me for a private match, 2 mins

jovial juniper
sinful peak
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need to test a mod

gray juniper
jovial juniper
unborn flicker
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Immediate refresh

unborn flicker
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I’m talking most reliable build 9/10 times in high havoc

gray juniper
unborn flicker
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It doesn’t last long enough does it?

gray juniper
unborn flicker
ripe obsidian
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I'm thinking this as a left keystone Arby build. Dropped the +15% damage to enemies you stagger for doggo bleed. Not sure what else I would drop.

unborn flicker
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Man look at that tree

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So many nodes

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I’ve got tree envy

ripe obsidian
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B/c there is but one Soulblaze to rule them all, and you're all competing for it

gray juniper
vestal trench
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oof, so no inferno and voidblast?

gray juniper
summer prairie
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two soulblaze builds is fine as long as one of them is shriek

vestal trench
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oh right i forget bubble is standard when you get to that diff

unborn flicker
gray juniper
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And shriek away from someone else stacks pwetty pweeze

ripe obsidian
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I think with this build I am doing ~2400 DPS to an Auric plague ogryn without any of the +damage to monsters stacks

gray juniper
north hatch
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Mk3 shock maul still the best?

unborn flicker
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But I still hate going gun psyker

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Why not just be vet if you want to use a gun

vestal trench
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huh, mk xiv over mkii?

gray juniper
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Shards, destiny

vestal trench
gray juniper
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You have more in the bag tbh

gray juniper
vestal trench
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i dont even see it as off-theme tbh, thousand sons with their warpmagic boosted bolters and all that

vestal trench
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but yeah, never thought to ask which recon mark is best for gunker

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i always just assumed mkxii for faster infernus stacking

gray juniper
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You get to disrupt someone’s destiny. You annihilate them on the physical and astral plane

vestal trench
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magnus did nothing wrong

unborn flicker
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He fucked up

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Let’s be straight

north hatch
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Magnus did quite a bit wrong tbh

unborn flicker
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But it came from a good place

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He just happened to be a little slow mentally

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So to speak

north hatch
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I mean if Big E says mortarian can be redeemed then so can magns

unborn flicker
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He needs his good shard

vestal trench
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big e said mortarion can be redeemed? damn

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i really need to look into more loyalist lore, they just bore me 😩

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.......except the dark angels, love those sickos

unborn flicker
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Was that before or after he threw down with girlyman?

summer prairie
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Mysterious

gray juniper
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So you guys have psyker book suggestions?

ripe obsidian
summer prairie
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no

ripe obsidian
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Just going by context clues.

north hatch
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Mortarian bodies him and big e posesse his body iirc

unborn flicker
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Dad got mad

fierce crest
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anyone wanna help me get malleus monstronum?

gray juniper
fierce crest
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huzzah

gray juniper
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Be there soon 😘

fierce crest
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take your time

gray juniper
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Damn that invite cancelled out for some reason @fierce crest

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One minute

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I’ll add you

fierce crest
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says youre in my squad

gray juniper
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True I just saw that

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That was a wild one

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Big prop on doing plague ogryn for the penance. Not easy

fierce crest
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i clearly wasnt paying enough attention to dogs and trappers

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but at least its only 50% now

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not so bad

plucky flax
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With syllo's patch my dawg's damage is kinda insane with a nice split between dog/shock mine/bleed. Not counting the bleed from the pounce itself.

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Semi-afk gaming.

hearty wolf
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I just woke up from a nap

hearty wolf
plucky flax
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Yeah from the shockmine explosion.

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Dogmine*

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But not from the razor claw talent.

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That bleed is something else. Dog bleed.

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It's lost in the void.

summer prairie
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It's not even dog bleed

hearty wolf
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No 😭

gray juniper
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Shock mine is so useful on havoc

summer prairie
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Just straight to void bleed

nocturne dust
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Wonder when they'll finally nuke puncture

hearty wolf
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O hello

plucky flax
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Why? It's a real trick.

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It's not like it's cheat.

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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Game?

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
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Dogbleed is absurd

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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Kk

plucky flax
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The new dog bleed on pounce though is kinda insane boss dps.

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Just sic it on the monster and run around.

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Like a squirrel.

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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Ye it used to not bleed the boss.

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Now it does.

nocturne dust
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Oh, they changed the annoying radius?

plucky flax
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It's fartshart magic.

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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Don't question it.

summer prairie
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The radius is the same but it applies it 1-2 times on everything hit

nocturne dust
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Been thinking about a dog build but I love Forceful too much, lol

summer prairie
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And constantly on the pounced target

nocturne dust
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or some weirdness with how it applied

summer prairie
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Yes, but that may have been there so the pounced target doesn't get hit twice

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By stagger and on pounce

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But now it gets constant 16 stacks anyway

strong gulch
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Mettle change?

nocturne dust
plucky flax
nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
plucky flax
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Ah fair.

plucky flax
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Keep it going.

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Bleed and shock.

ripe obsidian
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I know you do

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Puncture abuser. >:(

ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
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I do get outdamaged by Execution Order folks, but alas

strong gulch
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I have too much skill issue in live game for puncture abuse.

ripe obsidian
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Since EO increases dog damage by an insane amount

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
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In Auric Psykhanium on an EO build, my dog does... 1000 DPS to a shotgunner. Which I guess just means it kills it before 1 second elapses

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
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...is the dog supposed to count for coherency without the aura node?

strong gulch
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I give up typing this sentance. Brains bad

plucky flax
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No.

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But it gives you toughness with that node on the left.

ripe obsidian
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Okay, I think this was a psykhanium bug. Because it was.

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Stagger aura, but dog coherency

plucky flax
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There are 2 different dog toughness. One is aura one is within 5 or 8 metres of the dog.

minor wedge
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Yo.
Does this outfit check out or should I change something ?

ripe obsidian
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And had a 2 for the coherency indicator

nocturne dust
# hearty wolf :(

At least not for some indeterminate amount of time which will probably be after you go to bed KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
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I play havoc much better on shield dawg compared to shock maul shock mine right keystone.

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I think because I throw mine and no one wants to hit electrocuted enemies.

ripe obsidian
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Here's a potential bug: dog killing an EO target with bleed doesn't restore toughness

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Or actually count for EO going off

thorn cedar
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Yeah the bleed has no owner.

summer prairie
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Probably doesn't trigger anything since the bleed has no owner

ripe obsidian
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I did know that. Didn't grok the implications

plucky flax
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Void bleed.

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Just accept it.

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The dog is from the warp.

summer prairie
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But

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If you first apply some bleed

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Then it's yours

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Works on boss with puncture I guess

hearty wolf
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Next patch: "Bolter has been removed because of puncture"

summer prairie
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I don't know what happens when you apply e.g. puncture bleed after the target already has ownerless bleed

plucky flax
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I use the heavy spam single target shield.

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it feels better to me.

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I think more people use the other shield tho.

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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I think 11

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The other one is 6 maybe.,

hearty wolf
plucky flax
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I actually use the shield special fairly often

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Its just very cool

ripe obsidian
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The shield special is very good

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Why wouldn't you use it?

plucky flax
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No damage increase

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Dps loss when not hitting

nocturne dust
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Dps loss when dead hurts more

thorn cedar
frail escarp
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haha realized i was playing with my inferno blaze away staff without actually using the blessing, i kept releasing the right mouse button 😄

thorn cedar
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Blaze Away stacks up so fast it doesn't really matter tbh lmao

nocturne dust
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It's just free extra damage, lol

frail escarp
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i saw that it was resetting

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when i let go of right mouse

nocturne dust
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Did they change it in the patch?

frail escarp
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well maybe im just using it different, but what i did was push m2 then m1 to do the charged attacks and that definitles reset my stacks, didnt even know you can holy m2, i read it somewhere here 😄

ripe obsidian
frail escarp
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chaining m1 doesnt break it for me

nocturne dust
frail escarp
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but the whole fuckery i did with letting go of m2 does for me for sure

nocturne dust
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It shouldn't reset if you chain RMBs or LMBs

frail escarp
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in the meat grinder it definitely falls off if i try to do charged attack and let go for m2

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i mean im sure most ppl dont use it that way

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i just assumed i had to

ripe obsidian
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Stacks stay up

frail escarp
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and you let go of m2?

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that's rly weird bc im testing it right now and they fall off for me

strong gulch
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If you take too long to charge and cast, BA stacks expire.

frail escarp
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oh

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shit

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ye

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ok i can do it faster and it doesnt sorry

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my bad

azure quarry
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Why is Voidstrike dump radius? Is it just for big targets or is Voidstrike just bad compared to others?

nocturne dust
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lol, I did say attack faster KEKW_ogryn

frail escarp
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i thought i was 😄

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it has a rythm

nocturne dust
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the end explosion of the ball staff is crap

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You want to cleave enemies with the ball, the end explosion does basically nothing

azure quarry
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That makes sense

marble crater
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I wish it did something, just so we could tell everyone to dump warp res on everything

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Oh well

wooden sand
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What source are you observing this?

wooden sand
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They are blind by dumping radius

azure quarry
wooden sand
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Interestingly

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Very interestingly

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I dump warp resistance

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
wooden sand
strong gulch
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VS is blast radius dump. Has been.

nocturne dust
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🤓

strong gulch
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You CAN dump WR if you want, but that's not the meta dump when you're going for weakspots.

nocturne dust
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Even without weakspots, it's not the meta dump

wooden sand
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Wait a second

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Voidstrike

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Voidblast

nocturne dust
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because you can fire an extra time when you don't dump res

wooden sand
wooden sand
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Oh well I still dump Warp resistance

nocturne dust
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and I dump damage sometimes chadgryn

strong gulch
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The slight peril gen mitigation you get is better than what you get from blast radius; especially when you don't path into warp siphon and ER is very expensive to get too.

jovial juniper
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Trauma wasn't cool

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So they renamed to voidBLAST

nocturne dust
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Trauma was pretty traumatic

spare comet
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voidblast is still WR dump right

nocturne dust
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They had to rename it. Give newer players a blast when learning names.

spare comet
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there's no secret other trick with it

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?

nocturne dust
strong gulch
wooden sand
nocturne dust
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All weapons with warp res dump warp res except Voidstrike

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because of course we have to have 1 exception to the rule

spare comet
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every day i think of that one vet build on gamelantern with the knife damage dump

nocturne dust
wooden sand
azure quarry
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I think one of my Staves I have quell speed dumped

spare comet
marble crater
jovial juniper
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Is that

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Is

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Is that

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The build without Precision Strikes

nocturne dust
wooden sand
strong gulch
azure quarry
marble crater
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And because it was Trauma I didn't even hit anything thumbsup_ogryn

azure quarry
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But yea, VS is for large deletion right?

nocturne dust
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Uuuuuhhhh

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Sure, let's go with that

azure quarry
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I mean like Ogryn, monster, etc

nocturne dust
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Ha, no

jovial juniper
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Hey deadvoid

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Did you hear it

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Old mettle is back

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
azure quarry
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Then how do I use VS?

marble crater
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Ideally you don't

nocturne dust
strong gulch
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VS is not great against monsters and can struggle against bulwarks. Good at softer elites.

nocturne dust
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It'll be weaker than voidblast tho

spare comet
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i like voidblast

gray juniper
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You literally need people in a like for it to work best

strong gulch
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That's why I was aksin about mettle. I haven't fired up the game yet.

jovial juniper
marble crater
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Psyker mettle is so back

nocturne dust
strong gulch
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I KNEW PERFECT TIMING WAS DIFFERENT.

jovial juniper
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Then proc mettle 32 times and hard crash

marble crater
north hatch
# jovial juniper

Is this a staff only thing or can guns with pen also benefit from this

jovial juniper
gray juniper
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Brb gonna run high res low quell void strike on gaze

azure quarry
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Ah so just fire at groups and not worry about headshots?

strong gulch
# jovial juniper

Try on 1 enemy. Purg with crap mettle was still behaving like that in a horde.

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like a monster

gray juniper
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Nah forget that. High res high quell on VS. never stop gazing into the abyss

marble crater
gray juniper
#

Yea like aim for the neck if all else fails

azure quarry
strong gulch
nocturne dust
#

for big boys, hit head

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especially crushers

azure quarry
nocturne dust
#

Also, youtube is claiming my Disco Aquila vids KEKW_ogryn

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the unlisted ones that nobody sees and have no ads 😭

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

Here's another

strong gulch
#

I'm actually crying

ripe obsidian
#

It's super silly

#

Hopefully happy tears

strong gulch
#

so glad it's back

plucky flax
#

Omg psyker nerf they told me soulblaze no longer proc ee mettl4 perfect timing its Joe over

glacial vapor
#

So what happened? Does mettle crash the game again? KEKW_ogryn

jovial juniper
#

Oh no, that was just a joke

#

But mettle went back to old mettle

#

Where you could proc it multiple times with a single crit

#

It's probably some woopsies by FS this time

ripe obsidian
#

I wonder if some dev was accidentally using an old version of the code when they did their pull request

glacial vapor
summer prairie
#

It's not the old code

strong gulch
#

From video posted here, purg doesn't seem to act like it did with old mettle compared to now mettle

#

Still need to fire up the game.

hearty wolf
#

ilike game

#

we needd to try the new auric too

strong gulch
#

hope the new board also looks better

#

also hi

hearty wolf
#

hi

ripe obsidian
#

I can get another video

fiery stratus
strong gulch
# ripe obsidian What do you want tested?

Lots of things. Mostly how purg / inferno with nexus interacts with mettle procs on horde vs a monster with no other toughness gen talents. Perfect timing procs and EE procs as well.

ripe obsidian
#

Bosses are still 1 stack at a time if not hitting anything else

strong gulch
#

preferably old mettle as well. when was mettle nerfed?? I forgor. I'll have to dig to see if I can find that time. I wonder if I have videos.

pine shore
#

Fixed an issue where Psyker ‘on critical hit’ talents would trigger when burn stacks are active on enemies.
Emphatic evasion nerfed?

ripe obsidian
#

Perfect timing is also one stack at a time

summer prairie
#

No you can get more than one from a boss when channelling

ripe obsidian
#

I mean, for each tick of damage, sure

#

But not max at once like with a horde

ripe obsidian
#

If you have 3 crits in a row on a boss in a single channeled RMB, you get 3 stacks. If you have 1 crit on 3 enemies, you get 3 stacks

summer prairie
#

The changes are only related to mettle and perfect timing specifically

fierce crest
jovial juniper
#

It seems like "burning enemies would count as crit"

ripe obsidian
#

Perfect Timing still stacks once per crit, regardless of the number of enemies hit

pine shore
#

I think burning enemies used to be able to proc it

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And they shoulnd't be doing it now

plucky flax
#

Nein.

#

Soulblaze never proc any crit effects.

pine shore
#

Then what got fixed exactly?

plucky flax
#

Trauma mettle.

analog agate
#

Is VB mettle fixed or bugged the question.

ripe obsidian
#

VB mettle is a silly thing now

strong gulch
#

And any fallout from the fix.

#

Perfect timing nerf happened before this mettle change. How long ago? no clue

analog agate
#

It would return it to an insanely tanky staff that you don’t need to dodge in hordes to avoid dmg like you had to adjust to

summer prairie
#

Now you can run it with SG

analog agate
#

No shriek would make me sad

mighty olive
#

the patch went live right? for the crit fire fix? am still getting stacks like crazy

#

mettle and perfect timing i mean

summer prairie
#

No one knows what the patch note is even supposed to mean

mighty olive
#

ahh got it >_<

analog agate
#

Classic fat shark wording

hearty wolf
#

They fixed a problem that doesn't exist

mighty olive
hearty wolf
#

This is why it takes them 3 years to give any meaningful bug fixes or content

ripe obsidian
#

Mettle is supercharged

strong gulch
#

You mean back to normal on VB

marble crater
#

Psyker after the hot fix

ripe obsidian
#

I need 3 more wins to get H40. This will help.

hearty wolf
#

@ripe obsidian now?

ripe obsidian
#

I have to take my cat to the vet in ~20 minutes

hearty wolf
#

fock

marble crater
#

Oh no

hearty wolf
#

i pray for kitty health

marble crater
ripe obsidian
#

It's just a follow-up. He has a recurring upper respiratory issue

#

So no emergency right now

#

But thank you

hearty wolf
#

aw

ripe obsidian
#

Okay, so it seems like they didn't remove the old bleed behavior from the dog? It still inconsistently applies 8 stacks in an AOE on pounce, in addition to the now consistent 8 to staggered enemies

#

So sometimes enemies get 16 stacks, sometimes 8

#

I just pounced one elite with another on either side. Middle one got 8, left got 8, right got 16.

upper sun
#

@marble crater

marble crater
jovial juniper
#

5 stacks

upper sun
marble crater
#

True

#

Maybe I should play mass effect again after I'm finished with BG3 loregryn

ripe obsidian
#

A lot of the time, they'll all get 16. I think the way it's working is that they're staggered 2x, once from the midair jump, once from the landing, and each applies 8 stacks

marble crater
#

Arbites is the most balanced class

jovial juniper
#

Well yes but actually no

ripe obsidian
#

But it's still inconsistent. One of them here only got 8, despite being right on top of the target

jovial juniper
#

Also why are you sending your dog to attack ragers

#

The dog will get rabies like that

#

😭

ripe obsidian
#

Oh no

hearty wolf
#

then they apply a poison DoT

#

Fuck the dog, for the imperium!

#

How to turn dog into Poxhound 101

ripe obsidian
#

At least at Auric levels, if you happen to get the 16 stacks on surrounding elites, it kills most of them

#

So 1 pounce kills X gunners if they're bunched up

gray juniper
marble crater
zinc phoenix
#

wait so i can havoc trauma now because mettle?

ripe obsidian
#

Probably

zinc phoenix
#

nice

sinful peak
#

trauma has always been goated in havoc stare

zinc phoenix
#

i continued to take mettle out of habit

zinc phoenix
#

nah the issue has always been for me that taking trauma in havoc has always been tricky when pugging because no boss dmg

#

except from sword

sinful peak
#

you have teammates for that

zinc phoenix
#

yeah

#

about that

#

i am pugging

#

so the team is legit always one melon short of a full load

#

i should just play barbie and hard carry but i love me psyker

hearty wolf
#

i am redi for havok

sinful peak
#

people at h40 generally know what they're doing, I take care of hordes and specials and... everything that's not a boss, and the local ogryn goes to town on bosses

zinc phoenix
#

already have the h40 title and ts so whats the point

gray juniper
#

There’s no shortage of people blatantly hoping for a carry in havoc

#

When your pubby

zinc phoenix
deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Seems like it'd be decent. Problem is that the bleed stacks fall off pretty quickly on bigger enemies, since the dog takes breaks between pounces

mighty olive
ripe obsidian
#

It's probably unintentional, but enjoy it while it lasts. Become immortal

ripe obsidian
#

Brittleness node increases DPS on crushers by like 60%

#

With just the dog attacking it

deft stump
#

It triples a mauler kill speed at least.

ripe obsidian
#

nope

#

Because the brittleness only happens once on human-sized enemies

deft stump
#

No, test it. Send doggo to kill.

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

I did

plucky flax
#

Based SG grill.

ripe obsidian
#

600 DPS becomes 690 DPS

deft stump
#

You do 633 dps vs 2xx

deft stump
plucky flax
#

I think it's some chickensandwich guy.

#

Not me.

ripe obsidian
deft stump
#

With and without bleed node.

ripe obsidian
#

Oh, I'm not talking about the bleed node

#

it's OP

#

brittleness node is meh for maulers

#

Seems good for ogryns and bosses

plucky flax
#

Just run around and let dog kill boss.

deft stump
#

'3 loop around and crusher ded.

#

Better than avg pub.

ripe obsidian
#

The brittleness node only seems good on larger enemies, since it won't pop more than once on pinned enemies

#

It increases my DPS from ~275 to ~450 on a crusher

plucky flax
#

Seems not worth it.

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

It stacks up to the normal 40% cap on bigger enemies

deft stump
#

As in, with itself.

ripe obsidian
#

It's just regular brittleness afaik

deft stump
#

So is this like the oggy push brittle?

plucky flax
#

Karien you paniced too much earlier.

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Ears were ripped btw.

#

1 channel bluetoothspeaker not so good.

hearty wolf
#

@strong gulch

deft stump
plucky flax
#

I wonder why we were in those situations. KMS

ripe obsidian
deft stump
strong gulch
hearty wolf
strong gulch
# hearty wolf game?

I can try. I have a lot of mental exhaustion that didn't get better after sleeping. If I die a lot then I die a lot. 🫡

hearty wolf
#

Okay

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Understood

#

We hope for better sleep roll next time

strong gulch
#

That and brain fog really suck.

hearty wolf
#

aw :(

#

any1 else for baby havocs unless you can pull moi into something decent?

#

@strong gulch VC or nah? It's low havoc so shouldn't require much brain power

strong gulch
#

vc ok

dark swift
#

Sorry for asking but did they change this to only 50 damage or does it still require 50% of it's health damaged by brain burst?

upper sun
#

50%

#

its not as bad as you might think

#

with double walls and the brain burst upgrades and a power/speed stim you can do it in 5 seconds

ripe obsidian
#

Not sure which of these two nodes is better

#

Top one is more damage, bottom one means staggering crushers

upper sun
#

what modifier is "false truths"

strong gulch
upper sun
#

idk what auric im playing

#

but it seems MID

ripe obsidian
#

Sounds like the story campaign

worthy wasp
#

Hear me Smykers.

Now is the time for you to shine. With the DLC, you can simultaneously control the horde with shock aoe while also being a functioning, contributing, useful member of the team.

#

Spamming smite is bad, throwing a shock mine and meleeing/shooting stuff is good

jovial juniper
#

?????

#

Literally same problem

#

Can't proc dodge blessings if the enemies are Perma stunned

deft stump
upper sun
#

mass effect posting will continue until spawns improve

junior breach
#

what should I run on an inferno staff blessing and buff wise?

upper sun
#

blaze away nexus+flak and your choice of elite unyielding crit chance and maniac

cosmic sigil
ripe obsidian
#

This is my build

hearty wolf
#

@fierce crest

fierce crest
#

the DCer :(

strong gulch
#

@rose scarab scoreboard

#

oh you saw

#

type slow

ripe obsidian
#

Vet update: cat might have anxiety disorder, but is unlikely to be cognitive decline.

hearty wolf
#

Character is so busted

#

It's everything Zealot should have been

ripe obsidian
#

Arbites says "bonk"

hearty wolf
#

I swear by flackiac on the shotgun

#

Unyielding L

deft stump
fiery stratus
ripe obsidian
deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Because that's the design goal

#

They want you to feel like 3ish more points would be perfect so there's not One Build to Rule Them All.

deft stump
#

I'm just waiting for some paid expansion where it comes with 5 more points due to increased lvls.

ripe obsidian
#

When we become space marines?

deft stump
upper sun
#

DAWG WHERE ARE THE SPAWNS

hearty wolf
ripe obsidian
#

The bonking will continue until morale improves?

gray juniper
#

Trying auric storm survivor yet again. Each game got blown off a cliff by random event. Pox burster inside the door still O__O

upper sun
#

try to snipe easier maelstroms or counterpick them

#

i played things like purge into hunting grounds and bubble into ranged maelstrom

ripe obsidian
#

I got Auric Storm Survivor on Veteran because Voice of Command is silly

#

Ranged Maelstrom is the only one I won't do. I got so frustrated each time with teammates who wouldn't deal with shooters

hearty wolf
#

The worst case is I thought I was SO clever

#

It was weakened too so I have 0 fear anything would go wrong

strong gulch
#

yeah, deimos H2 would have freed you

#

rip

hearty wolf
#

fock

#

It's alright, it was a blunder on my end of even getting vomitted on in the first place i think

#

I went out of the bubble to hit the weakspot and thought his mouth was inside the bubble

#

but it wasn't

strong gulch
#

I was busy getting dead

#

our brains were rotted

hearty wolf
#

You were tired as well but you played very well so it's all good

#

I had a lot of fun with those clutches

#

I don't feel helpless now that I'm not using thammer

#

I didn't realise how much that weapon turned my brain to mush

strong gulch
#

begon thammer

fierce crest
#

youre missing the most important stat

hearty wolf
#

Jumps done?

#

fock

fierce crest
#

gotta be jump maxing

hearty wolf
#

I did vaults though 😭

fierce crest
#

doesnt count

strong gulch
#

no it's barrels ignited

fierce crest
#

2 🤝 2

strong gulch
fierce crest
#

i feel like both of those were from one frag bomb

#

the most tragic statline

hearty wolf
#

It's alright, it was my blunder xd

#

I was just SO sold on ALL the ways we could be free from nurgle

#

My brain was so far ahead

#

I was like

fierce crest
#

i was too taunt happy

#

with nuke i need to hold it more

hearty wolf
#

"Hmm. There's still a lot of gunners over there. I might get shot soon and I can't get shot in nurgle. If it turns, it might launch me into the elevator which gives me cover"

fierce crest
#

i usually dont run nuke but im working on the penance

hearty wolf
#

Never did it occur that being in a disgusting worm's belly would be a bad idea

spare comet
#

is sanctuary worth it for shield?

#

seems pretty damn solid

hearty wolf
fierce crest
#

vs a boss tho

#

its main use is the stagger

hearty wolf
#

yeh

fierce crest
#

the bit of cc for other enemies wasnt worth it

hearty wolf
#

I mean in other situations, it would probably have been fine to keep other enemies off me so I could do bonks

fierce crest
#

and i didnt need the toughness

hearty wolf
#

It's just I was the one who was eaten

#

Either way it was a really fun run and I'm glad to be playing this game again

shut breach
#

another stupid off the docket

gray juniper
#

Arby penances are wild short

strong gulch
#

Or don't to meme and confuse your teammates. KEKW_ogryn

gray juniper
#

I get so frustrated in pubs every day. You have glory hound players that only want to handle the biggest enemy or all turn inward on a boss

hearty wolf
#

he's talking about me, fuck

gray juniper
#

Then I try a storm penance in Themis group and look like a goober falling off a cliff two games in a row

vestal trench
#

do i need 500 rating weapons/400+ curios to start aurics or

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
#

just try and get a nice blessing/perk combo

#

just make sure the curios help you in some kind of way

#

toughness/health/stamina et

#

even then

#

Skill>Loadout

zinc phoenix
vestal trench
#

yea i got those, health doesnt hit the 205 breakpoint tho

zinc phoenix
#

Curios don’t need to be max

gray juniper
vestal trench
#

my loadout stronger than my skill waaa

gray juniper
#

Dumpster for spearhead bolt gun btw?

hearty wolf
#

I feel like it's a very humbling experiene to play Killing Floor 2 modded

#

It teaches that lesson so well because the game is so fucking hard

nocturne dust
#

Huh?

#

KF2 hard?

#

Is this some difficulty mod or something

worthy wasp
spare comet
nocturne dust
#

so you take right bubble

spare comet
#

I thought so

nocturne dust
#

and can't take left

spare comet
#

left ones kinda suck anyways

nocturne dust
#

yes

#

a lot

zinc phoenix
#

I’m back to fiddling the mk6 sword

modest perch
#

its awesome bro

#

id do anything to have it on zealot

zinc phoenix
#

It’s not, the mk8 is better

#

But I want to understand both marks well

hearty wolf
#

They add certain restrictions like no tier 5 deagles for examples cos they're broken

zinc phoenix
#

the horde combo of 3L into H feels fiddly 😢

#

I’ve been mixing in the push to lateral sweep to compensate for that

bitter spade
#

You can replace the H with a block cancel and basically just cycle the three(?) diagonal lights

gray juniper
modest perch
gray juniper
zinc phoenix
spare comet
#

oops

hearty wolf
#

I can't sleep

#

I'm too giddy

gray juniper
vestal trench
#

the mkvi sword clicked for me when that reginald vid mentioned watching for the uppercut swing

#

you only heavy after that one

zinc phoenix
#

Getting the headshot with the push can be tricky tho

gray juniper
#

Ngl that’s good strat

stone totem
#

I think it's funny that the class with the worst toughness replen. numbers/conditions in the game is also the only class that has a talent that nerfs toughness replenishment

#

peak design

spare comet
#

Why does it somehow completely not let me quell from 100???

deft stump
spare comet
#

That's stupid

#

Sometimes it just instantly jumps to that

#

I am so confused lol

strong gulch
#

SG will keep building peril. Eventually you can't out quell it.

spare comet
#

its not from gaze

#

and even with gaze

#

i have the talent for that

strong gulch
#

If you cast something that take you over 100, you'll explode too. Like EK is known to do.

deft stump
#

I just think they aren't used to staves or bb triggering boom if they channel too close to 95% and lmb.

strong gulch
#

There is a bug that can make you explode at 97 % peril, but that is rare.

spare comet
verbal thistle
#

common with trauma staff

strong gulch
#

On bb, if you pre cast with RMB and then burst a target 100% peril you explode,

strong gulch
#

Because it's rare.

spare comet
#

it doesnt happen often

#

like once every few matches

gray juniper
verbal thistle
#

brain brust mentioned

gray juniper
#

I regularly go over often to put in more damage, turn to the direction of enemies I want to slow down or walkers killed, vent and manage peril carefully after that

gray juniper
verbal thistle
#

lag

#

was playing in EU

#

200ms for me

spare comet
verbal thistle
#

Steam name

spare comet
#

yeah i was about to ask

#

LOL

young cliff
#

ole question: what is a good build for DB shotgun?

verbal thistle
#

my game only shows steam names

severe rover
#

What curio stats do psykers want for smite/assail/melee?

verbal thistle
#

curios dont change betweens builds

#

and mostly are perference

#

I take 2 tough, 1 hp. with x3 toughness, x3 hp, x3 gunner res

spare comet
#

i always take gunner res regardless of class

#

then combat ability regen, and +more toughness

severe rover
#

no stam? okay

spare comet
#

you can

verbal thistle
#

psyker does not need

severe rover
#

was just curious finally got around leveling it

verbal thistle
#

with their delay being the shortest

#

and with kinectic deflection

spare comet
#

2 tough 1 stam is reasonable but i'd rather just take the hp

deft stump
deft stump
spare comet
#

i tried shield bubble just i genuinely just do not fuck with it

#

back to gaze

red bough
#

So what exactly is the Psyker’s niche?

stone totem
#

Depends on build

thorn cedar
#

float like butterfly, sting like bee wielding two m60's

zinc comet
#

Do lots of damage

deft stump
#

The epitome of just don't get hit.

red bough
#

Vet is ranged dps, Zealot is melee, Ogryn is tank, idk what Arbites is, so where does that leave the Psyker? I’m assuming some manner of area control

deft stump
#

You actually get hit, you die.

#

Has hilariously high damage that scales off density.

zinc comet
#

In a sense it’s area control

#

You control the area by killing everything in it

red bough
#

Yeah, Assail gives me big “fuck everything in that general direction” vibes

#

Though I did switch to the Smite blitz for the shock-on-heavy-melee perk.

stone totem
#

They do it a bit better but your ranged weapon should still be your secondary

#

Melee is the heart of the game, but squeezing in ranged attacks is still good

red bough
#

Noted.

deft stump
static sonnet
young cliff
deft stump
sterile steppe
#

So, do we have any havoc builds for psyker after the recent burn nerfs?