#psyker-class

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marble crater
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How much do you have to die to trigger that, jeez

wraith sphinx
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you have to get downed like 4-5 times in a short succesion I think

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everyone has a form of that remark for a specific class that keeps going down

marble crater
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That explains why I never heard it then chadgryn

wraith sphinx
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for example the savant psyker tells veteran to "alter their tactics towards staying upright"

ripe obsidian
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Well, my build seems to perform pretty well in H40. Good defense, good offense. The other Arbiter outdamaged me, but their build was pretty ranged-oriented as opposed to my melee one.

wraith sphinx
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nice

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I'm running dogless and it's very fun

ripe obsidian
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I am running doggo build. Haven't tried dogless in havoc yet

wraith sphinx
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also has anyone else noticed they changed the comms pic for sister hestia

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she no longer awkwardly stares directly at the camera like a boomer trying to facetime

marble crater
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About time

ripe obsidian
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There's only like a 3 node difference between doggo and dogless builds

marble crater
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The previous picture was bad

wraith sphinx
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yeah lmao

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hilarious in an unintentional way too

marble crater
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Uglier model of her too

wraith sphinx
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I mean it's the mourningstar crew, I don't expect anyone to look pretty KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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I do, you are telling me that guy can change my gender but can't make people pretty?

wraith sphinx
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um yeah it's called WARhammer not prettyhammer loregryn

marble crater
nocturne dust
marble crater
verbal thistle
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Wait

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Rinda sticker

tulip kettle
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did pretty well for me last night, kind of unkillable honestly

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this was in havoc 30s

minor wedge
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Okay so for the first time in months, i broke my principle

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After one more team that had a massive breakdown at the breaker switch part of the maelstrom

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I went smiker

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and suddenly it fucking works

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...

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I feel dirty now

tulip kettle
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man dont hate on smite fo real

minor wedge
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Its okay. But its super crutchy

tulip kettle
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kind of

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but at the same time, only if you use it that way

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there is literally nothing wrong with smite

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just a stigma because of bad players who use it

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guns dont kill people. people kill people.

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and now the arby exists, smite is even more so a legit team based choice

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oh, you do +200% damage to shocked and stunned enemies?

nocturne dust
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always has been

tulip kettle
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allow me to introduce myself

minor wedge
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Dunno man. Smiker feels... off... to use. Like. Yeah, its okay. But at the same time I shouldn't have to stunlock an entire room for a mission to work

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even if its auric maelstrom

tulip kettle
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yeah so dont

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kill em instead

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smite is useful for a quick 2 second blast to make space and throw everything out the way

minor wedge
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Did that earlier on my other classes ^^ 5 failed attempts due to all my team dieing in the breaker room and me getting overwhelmed later

tulip kettle
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then straight back to killing

minor wedge
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So i just held the fuckin tide at bay this time and it works

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I just wanted to get this stupid maelstrom done anyway, ngl.

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Not the enclavum baros but the ice metalfab one

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That was pure pain.

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I usualy run traumastaff ds

potent echo
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Don't hate on smite unless said psyker isn't running EP smite

marble crater
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People don't hate on smite, we hate on smykers, big difference

minor wedge
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Yep.

potent echo
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Smhkers

minor wedge
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Which is why it felt super dirty to have to crutch that earlier. Now to clense my palete with some good old flamepsyker

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And then back to trauma

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:3

marble crater
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Just play blaze trauma and skip a step

minor wedge
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Funnily enough thats what im running ^^

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But i have 2 distinctly different builds

potent echo
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If I ever encounter smykers I just run past the enemies they are smiting whatthefuck_heresy

marble crater
minor wedge
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Bro....

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what is this today

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Auric maelstrom, warren 6-19

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2 rushers sprint ahead and get ABSOLUTELY shat on

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queue the other 2 of us being left to deal with everything

marble crater
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Sounds perfectly normal for this time

plucky flax
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Shock mine op for boss fighting

summer prairie
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Around 24% companion damage in those two rounds + dog explosions maybe 78k

tulip kettle
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shock dog and bistol OP for boss fighting 🙂

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just did an auric mortis and got 800k boss dmg with it

nocturne dust
summer prairie
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it's a good mod

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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I think ovenproof not counting the full dog damage

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Don't think it's counting the electric

summer prairie
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not sure which version you are using

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your voltaic node damgae is included in your melee damage

plucky flax
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Oh there's new update

summer prairie
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I don't know about that

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I just know how it works

plucky flax
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Is the psyker damage fix?

summer prairie
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there's no new version

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but I know internally it's melee damage

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so without a fix it's included in melee

plucky flax
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New version on nexus today

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At 1051

summer prairie
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oh new beta yeah

minor wedge
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Oh

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OH

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I just got Atomas elite guard

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WOO!

summer prairie
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Voltaic mandibles uses a melee damage template, hence it being counted as melee

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it's the same effect as the old shock maul

plucky flax
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I changed something my game is now smooth 60+ fps from choppy 30fps on laptop

marble crater
summer prairie
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are you still eating

plucky flax
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I am heading back

summer prairie
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are you playing at work

plucky flax
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Ye im stuck at work this weekend. Will go home tomorrow after lunch

wraith sphinx
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man I think I need to stop playing arbites and go back to psyker

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this class is making me so incredibly careless

plucky flax
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I get 1 extra free day leave for working half day Saturday

minor wedge
plucky flax
nocturne dust
marble crater
nocturne dust
summer prairie
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According to Kuli this is how the dog bleed is supposed to be applied, so it's not even supposed to apply to the pounced target (but sometimes it does)

plucky flax
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If you have nvidia you should use dlss

nocturne dust
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Turned it on

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Looks awful

nocturne dust
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Turned it off

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good ole AI crap

upper sun
nocturne dust
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Oh hey, Darktide did turn on the stupid 'low latency' nvidia reflex thing tho

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I turned it off

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Feels like lower latency already KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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Just turn your PC off at this point Sitgryn

potent echo
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Actually true

nocturne dust
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The outside does tend to have the highest FPS

wraith sphinx
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I use xess set to balanced

potent echo
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I have the peak mixed AI slop with dlss upscaler but FSRFG KEKW_ogryn

tulip kettle
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man outside is like 23fps at best

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fuck that

plucky flax
summer prairie
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No thanks, yikes

plucky flax
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I actually like swapping manually so won't need this.

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I swap before blitz normally.

summer prairie
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I want to run new stuff anyway and that's a bit too op anyway

plucky flax
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Latest ovenproof patch still have psyker bug damage.

plucky flax
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Syllo wanna get carried in h40 by karien?

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She said I'm too heavy alone.

marble crater
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Arbites is the bully class

plucky flax
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Also the charge ability looks so much cooler with shield.

marble crater
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Karien can carry even better now, the dog doesn't suffer from high ping

deft stump
marble crater
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You don't need decent curios to carry

deft stump
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Why don't you carry me then? Eula_Stare

marble crater
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I'm not good enough Sitgryn

summer prairie
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what, you 2 want to play?

marble crater
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Me? No loregryn

summer prairie
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Karien/Agent

gray juniper
marble crater
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@upper sun you are in Budapest right? loregryn

upper sun
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ye

marble crater
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I have a friend who will visit next month, any recommendations for food and what he should visit? loregryn

upper sun
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gimmie a bit ill dm you

marble crater
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Thank you chadgryn

upper sun
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most important bit of advice tho

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dont pay more than 5000 forint for a bag

marble crater
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I don't know what that means, but I will tell him KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
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weed

marble crater
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I see loregryn

plucky flax
deft stump
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THIS IS JUST GASLIGHT MAINS.

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Also, are those two from here as well or summthing?

ocean turret
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why is a backpack stuck on my psyker even though it's unequipped? ;_;

marble crater
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Who two?

plucky flax
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Xevra is my boi

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@flat nexus peepoHeart

marble crater
deft stump
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And yes, I feel so spoiled on Arbites... Run funni stam, tanky, run funni HP, overkill unless the worst of worst... Zealot feels like paper now.

plucky flax
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@summer prairie 193k doggo damage if it's not counting the dog's electric then easily like 220k or more.

marble crater
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Praise the doggo

plucky flax
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I might enjoy dog with shield more than shock maul now.

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It's very safe.

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For dogless shock maul is king.

deft stump
plucky flax
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The damage is just too absurd.

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I don't see why impact when everything is staggered already.

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Unless it can stagger monsters.

deft stump
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2 hit crusher fails about.

marble crater
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I use shield + maul and shield + pistol, because it's just cool

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If I play the police brutality class, I will do it right

deft stump
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But requires all the full stacks though.

plucky flax
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I like shield pistol for cool factor but the damage is kinda poopy.

deft stump
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It's more, bully a horde of crushers spamming push l1 l2, push l1 l2.

plucky flax
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I like how you did nearly 20k boss damage karien.

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Tru carry.

deft stump
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I just chorused bosses.

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What you do you want me to do?

plucky flax
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I'm praising. SadgeCry

deft stump
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Ask FS to rework Chorus so you can still attack channeling it?

flat nexus
marble crater
flat nexus
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without his skull crusher i wont be doing like 210% more dmg to bosses that have the skull crusher debuff + soften them up + taunt

plucky flax
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The oggy wasn't ready for karien.

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He was like 'wtf'

flat nexus
marble crater
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Might have been the fan, it's hot over there

deft stump
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I turned it off for H40.

marble crater
deft stump
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Unless you mean the extra fans for the PC.

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Those go into overdrive on Darktide.

marble crater
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Agent is also your fan and yet you flame him when he praises you Sitgryn

flat nexus
deft stump
deft stump
cobalt wraith
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there's not much on gameslantern... can anyone recommend a havoc build?

plucky flax
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Easiest is burga with bubble.

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Take kf from bb.

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Spam shield spam flame.

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But with so many arbies running around now might be better to play a melee/gun build.

cobalt wraith
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what the hell is a burga. and a kf. and a bb.

plucky flax
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Because they won't stay still for you to flame the horde.

marble crater
deft stump
cobalt wraith
gray juniper
marble crater
plucky flax
cobalt wraith
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oh nvm i see now

summer prairie
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in my previous run voltaic mandibles did 180k, companion 156k

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I was making it jump between targets constantly though

plucky flax
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Wot that's quite a lot

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Power di give breakdown of the electric talent?

deft stump
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Yeah, echo cancellation is just not working on Discord.

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I dunno, I hear it when I turn off echo cancellation for like Steam.

lunar marsh
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Any hints on a new psyker player ?

deft stump
lunar marsh
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Thanks a lot

deft stump
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Just don't blow up using it all.

summer prairie
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the voltaic damage shows up under melee if you make it show attack templates

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in power di

plucky flax
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Yo change high voltage to execution. It works better against monsters.

summer prairie
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I've both

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they both buff voltaic too so

plucky flax
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Not running relentless strike?

summer prairie
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confident or relentless?

plucky flax
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Execution relentless.

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With dogless I don't need confident strike.

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Cos the right keystone gives toughness gen pretty good.

summer prairie
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this is a dog build, high voltage executioner, undecided whether the monster damage from relentless is better

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than buffing everything else and voltaic

plucky flax
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Oh yeah with dog then high voltage for sure.

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50% power kinda big when fighting monsters.

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If you don't miss. Xd

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Execituion high voltage the better play tbh.

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More damage against everything.

deft stump
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I get extra damage on my second cycle through. Push light light, push light light.

plucky flax
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You have to stagger it, which is super easy to do.

lunar marsh
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I'm just level 1

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So it's basically a mind explosion stuff

plucky flax
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I'm testing atm without any impact talent. Without staggering they won't get electrocuted.

deft stump
lunar marsh
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So i just have to play it to change the type of psyker power?

deft stump
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Maulers kiss the floor.

plucky flax
deft stump
lunar marsh
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Sorry if I sound like a noob, haven't played any class except Zealoth

deft stump
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I don't even know if bistol dog bomb works in havoc.

lunar marsh
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As other weapons i got a Bolter handgun and the basic sword

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Do i need to change as well ?

deft stump
plucky flax
deft stump
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That thing kills alot on auric.

plucky flax
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It sure does.

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I used it earlier with you.

deft stump
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Oh, so you did try it.

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It's just run saving in aurics tbh.

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Even if I hold my bistol like a statstick.

plucky flax
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You don't even know what i played.

deft stump
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I only know Arbites.

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Checking weapons need another button press.

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Also, I have DLSS off and no FPS whatsoever. XD

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Some ppl say better to turn it off so tried.

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Honestly, I think the smears for twice the fps might be worth it.

deft stump
plucky flax
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Why dlss off? staregryn

deft stump
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More stable framerates.

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Less smear so I can actually see.

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It made inferno more berable.

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Still blinded if one colour filter, but can't do much about that.

summer prairie
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did another very long and painful run, 208k companion, 214k voltaic mandibles

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even dog explosion was 186k and I don't use it very well still

plucky flax
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Go 2 arbies 1 dog one no

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Put skullcrusher on the shield. Kapp

deft stump
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Also, I could see better on last wound than I ever did the rest of my DT playtime. I just forgot how to Zealot tbh.

marble crater
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Just don't be on the last wound, smh

deft stump
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I keep trying to block ranged shots.

marble crater
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You can't block ranged shots with zealot loregryn

marble crater
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Why do you try it then? staregryn

deft stump
marble crater
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Hasn't even been a week, smh

plucky flax
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She is built different.

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You're playing dt she's playing brightide.

deft stump
marble crater
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I'm playing sleep deprivation Sitgryn

plucky flax
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Is it too hot?

deft stump
upper sun
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sleeps overrated

marble crater
plucky flax
upper sun
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have u tried sleeping earlier

summer prairie
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Nuncio-aquila currently gives 70% toughness DR rather than 30% with the node

upper sun
deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
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I drop that thing and lul

marble crater
deft stump
deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
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Yeah.

wraith sphinx
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@marble crater happened again lmao

plucky flax
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I got the camo dawg

wraith sphinx
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nice

deft stump
deft stump
marble crater
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Well that's fair

deft stump
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Even dogs 5 times her size.

stone anchor
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One day boys
One day we will be the best class

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One day we will allow the warp to consume us and only then will the emperor listen to us

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Maybe we should become one with heresy

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In order to obtain greater power over the ogryns and arbi

gray juniper
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Subjugate the classes and put them under boot of the power of the warp

deft stump
wraith sphinx
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430 power trinket
it's +1 wounds
thank you Melk!

marble crater
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Congrats

deft stump
wraith sphinx
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we are so back

marble crater
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My psyker only uses 430 rating curios, I'm not a peasant

marble crater
stone anchor
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Does rating even matter

wraith sphinx
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yes for stamina curios

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you can't get a +3 stamina curio unless it's above 400 rating

stone anchor
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Ah

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But like for weapons does it matter

wraith sphinx
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oh yeah it matters big time

stone anchor
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I have 80 on most of my weapons cuz I rerolled

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All characters r maxed out

wraith sphinx
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the bigger the power rating the close to the maximum modifier value you are for the primary stats

stone anchor
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Ahh ok

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Ty for telling me

wraith sphinx
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np

gray juniper
deft stump
gray juniper
gray juniper
deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
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Your mind can't comprehend it.

gray juniper
gray juniper
deft stump
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There's a reason why if anyone knew my old OC, much reeeeeeeeeeee to be had.

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Chaos Sister but Tzeentch awakened sorcerer but actually Slaaneshi.

plucky flax
summer prairie
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do you push attack crushers

plucky flax
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No heavy light is better.

summer prairie
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lazy

plucky flax
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But there was mixed horde so I wanted to cleave it too.

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If the dreg rager nearby might get clipped.

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Ritual is too hellish with pugs.

deft stump
summer prairie
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it lets enemies come closer so less annoying

deft stump
potent echo
plucky flax
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Default setting for spider sense.

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I'm too lazy to turn it off.

brazen compass
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Change it to Earthbound's SMAAAAAAAASH!!!

potent echo
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overhead warning?

plucky flax
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Yep.

plucky flax
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When I'm solo party finder pugging I'm there and 3 guys are bing chilling back.

brazen compass
deft stump
plucky flax
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You were so panicy earlier.

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RIP ears.

deft stump
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Because Arbites is broken op tanky!

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Zealot feels like tissue with undying on a 2 mins CD.

summer prairie
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what about psyker then

plucky flax
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Have you tried not getting hit? loregryn

deft stump
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Vet feels like tissue with a 30 sec I survive one big hit.

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Psyker is ded.

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Or I'm alive because they shooting me from front and I have basically so little peril gen so will survive till that runs out.

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Deflector block cost reduction and kd.

deft stump
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When absolute mess happens.

plucky flax
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I did.

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It was very tough.

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But I am back to smooth fps now.

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Darktide magic.

deft stump
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That's turning off DLSS3.

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It doubles my fps with visual clarity as a trade off.

gray juniper
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Like it’s fantasy absolutely have fun

deft stump
gray juniper
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Man fuck that it’s called creativity

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Their feeble minds couldn’t comprehend

deft stump
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I made her when I was like 14-15 or so.

gray juniper
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Aww

deft stump
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So you get a little too broken OCs much.

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Storywise anyway.

gray juniper
# brazen compass When the Psyker with the shield is mucking about in the back and then gets solo'...

The greatsword is actually so good and I was wrong about because I didn’t know how to use it properly and try out the different marks. Quick question tho to @marble crater @plucky flax and other pros. I used unstable power and shred for the bubble knight build like it says. It’s great on regular levels. Playing the twins I noticed I have a problem soloing sword twin. I run out of dodge or block because of multi enemy on me and heavy special by boss. She hits me with her longest attack after depleted dodge or my block gets broken

Mechanically what am I doing wrong and would it be a bad idea to use boost on curios like stamina or block, or use deflector blessing because it seems to help with block effectiveness?

brazen compass
gray juniper
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Yes I’m asking you too 😑🔫

marble crater
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I'm not familiar with the bubble knight build, does it use kinetic deflection?

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Because you should be able to block for a long time with that I think?

plucky flax
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Your best bet is to run away

marble crater
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Twins fight is too difficult sipsad

gray juniper
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You know I’m a dummy. I forgot I was actually using a gaze build for that one. No kinetic deflection btw @marble crater

brazen compass
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Not-Rinda is especially hard as Psyker with no proper tools to fight

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IMO best way to deal with it is just block and dodge until she gets bored

gray juniper
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If you’re last up that’s impossible lol

brazen compass
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Yeah Sadge

marble crater
gray juniper
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Bruv…

brazen compass
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Also that charged swing she does hits in a 360

gray juniper
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Would deflector or a curio enhancement?

brazen compass
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So if you're behind her and she swings, you're still getting hurt

plucky flax
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You're pro if youre playing melee without kd

brazen compass
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I don't use KD because I never need it when I have it, and then I eat dirt when I do need it and don't have it KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
marble crater
gray juniper
brazen compass
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It's a good philosophy honestly

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Black swan event

plucky flax
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If you need twins hm I can help

brazen compass
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I just have to figure out how to squeeze it into my builds that don't have it

gray juniper
plucky flax
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You dont explode due to kd blocking

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It'll just won't work at max peril and use your stamina

gray juniper
gray juniper
marble crater
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I was too slow

plucky flax
marble crater
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Don't flame me sipsad

plucky flax
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Sry wasn't me

gray juniper
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In the current set up the recon lasgun takes down maulers and ragers reasonably fast. The sword works well too. Working the shields down on captains/karnaks ain’t worth it from a distance is the problem. You really have to get in there with the sword

plucky flax
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Ye better to melee shield

gray juniper
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It’s always faster yes sir

plucky flax
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Light attack shield as well don't need to heavy attack it

gray juniper
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What’s your movement combo dealing with them?

marble crater
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But magdumping into the shield makes a funny sound

gray juniper
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lol

plucky flax
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Movement combo?

gray juniper
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Does deflector actually provide any extra blocking besides bullets or am I imagining things?

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^separate Q by the way my bad

gray juniper
deft stump
plucky flax
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Normally I try not to solo them

gray juniper
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I’m least experienced of all enemies dealing with captains

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Because they always get murked so fast on normal rounds

deft stump
marble crater
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I wish I had tips for fighting captains, I only got block if they focus you, attack if they don't KEKW_ogryn

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Twins is the bane of my existence

vestal trench
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so as someone who doesnt know any better, which of tanner's psyker takes are most egregious? i noticed he dismissed empyric resolve, combustion, kinetic deflection, and flayer

plucky flax
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I like those but im not pro like him

vestal trench
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im mostly asking cause i searched on here to see any specifics but it was mostly a troll/fan being like "hes good tho" and not listening to anyone

marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
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All 4 of those talents are great

vestal trench
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i'll have to skip back to the part on combustion but his take on ER was something along the lines of "but u want high peril!"

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which made me think "then cast more...?"

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unless im missin somethin lmao

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oh and he was also very adamant abt quietude over warp expenditure

ripe obsidian
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ER makes it easier to manage high peril

deft stump
vestal trench
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with KD i assume it's just a good safety net? although i dont block in this game as much as i did in VT

marble crater
gray juniper
gray juniper
deft stump
marble crater
vestal trench
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gotcha

deft stump
deft stump
marble crater
ripe obsidian
deft stump
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Ever want hard to manually use frame perfect weapon swap attacks or special attacks? You can mod and do it way faster than most ppl.

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So fast, even a chaos spawn dies to obscurus before it can attack.

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damnation.

gray juniper
deft stump
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No human can do it for every hit all the time at that rate.

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Why is clear cheating.

brazen compass
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If everyone is properly focused then it's relatively trivial, but still

gray juniper
deft stump
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Otherwise you just get gunned down anyway if not timing your slides.

#

Or bubble.

gray juniper
# deft stump Oggy mains and actually cheat lvl mods.

If people use cheat tier mods like why play? Challenge is part of the point is it not? I really don’t like that. Especially if it becomes complaints about things needing to be more difficult that the rest of the player base doesn’t agree to

gray juniper
deft stump
gray juniper
marble crater
#

Oh, Fatshark changed their mind and we can use some of the other cosmetics in the head slot now loregryn

analog agate
#

Seen it twice. Both vets

deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
# gray juniper Lmao wtf

Can't quickdraw AI, I guess. They spazzed around shooting every special that barely just show up even behind them.

vestal trench
# marble crater

damn this definitely sounds like they needed permission from GW first

deft stump
#

Could be half the map away with just a barely visible head.

gray juniper
deft stump
vestal trench
#

also, tanner's issue with combustion was that the stacks it gave "werent enough to kill"

but i feel that may miss the point since it's supposed to stack with every other instance of soulblaze youre doing right?

deft stump
gray juniper
#

Which is better on great sword: shred or unstable power?

vestal trench
#

gotcha

#

i think the one im a bit lost on is kinetic flayer's value - i guess it's a nice bonus if it procs into a mixed horde?

tulip kettle
#

and have a FGS with all 80s except 30 warp res to make sure i stay there

deft stump
tulip kettle
deft stump
#

Treat it like a super crit every 15 secs... FS needs to halve the CD IMO.

tulip kettle
#

but personally im not a huge fan of KF either

deft stump
#

Or even third it.

tulip kettle
#

for exactly that reason yes, ive said since day 1 its internal cd is way too long

deft stump
#

5 secs seems reasonable due to channel time

fierce crest
#

Atheneum suggests as low warp res as possible for assail weaving with greatswords, either of these worth using for that?

tulip kettle
#

60 warp res is what you want

oak echo
#

Just started a psyker character.
Are uh... Gun psykers actually viable or a meme?

deft stump
#

7 secs totally because you can do other things on top.

tulip kettle
#

heh

#

no dude

#

gunkers are terrible

fierce crest
tulip kettle
#

i mean yes less is better

#

but one with 60 warp res and 80 in everything else is just fine

fierce crest
#

:|

oak echo
#

Also what are the dump stats and ideal blessings/perks for the psyker exclusive weapons

tulip kettle
#

its just to make it easier to stay high peril

fierce crest
#

right so my question then

tulip kettle
#

cooldown

tulip kettle
#

then stop

#

it will probably have less than 60 warp res

fierce crest
#

so probly stick to auric-

gray juniper
tulip kettle
#

gun psykers are really melee psykers tbf

gray juniper
oak echo
#

I haven't touched havoc at all even after maxing my vet and zealot. I'm more concerned with knowing how every class basically works

tulip kettle
#

psyker is its own special lil beast

oak echo
#

I'm honestly more concerned with penance farming than actually getting good

tulip kettle
#

main thing is that this class is the most punishing by far

fierce crest
#

then gunker is fine

vestal trench
tulip kettle
#

you just dont have the durability other classes do

gray juniper
oak echo
#

In any case, what are the uh dump stats and ideal perk/blessings for the psyker exclusive weapons

vestal trench
#

oh and im assuming EK being focused on primary fire is a thing of the past?

tulip kettle
#

look at the pinned messages

deft stump
tulip kettle
#

yeah 5 seconds is just fine

#

if BB did more dmg

gray juniper
tulip kettle
#

longer would be fine

tulip kettle
#

but its low dmg and long cd which is lame

summer prairie
#

it's over 10% of your total damage

#

it's fine as it is

gray juniper
tulip kettle
#

it most certainly is not and does not

summer prairie
#

does not do 10% of your damage?

tulip kettle
#

maybe in damnation but not in havoc

summer prairie
#

maybe run power di and see

gray juniper
tulip kettle
#

maybe in damnation

#

not in havoc 40s

summer prairie
#

I've only played havoc since it was released

tulip kettle
#

bb is almost a complete waste of time

gray juniper
tulip kettle
#

and ive always been the guy that loves BB

gray juniper
#

Me tew

tulip kettle
#

but like its 3 bursts just to kill a gunner

#

mutants 5 or 6

gray juniper
#

Oh they have modifiers on don’t they?

#

Damn like regular gunner?

tulip kettle
#

yes and they are usually healing

#

yes

gray juniper
#

That’s not cool fat ass shark

tulip kettle
#

2 bursts often leaves a gunner with a tiny sliver of hp

#

then you consider they cost like 40% peril to cast and its just like

summer prairie
#

In a recent h40 running purg, BB was 14% of total damage and very little of that was manual since I didn't even have the speed node

tulip kettle
#

im not doing that

gray juniper
#

Can’t even go that route

summer prairie
#

so it was almost all KF

tulip kettle
#

yeah for sure

#

but also

summer prairie
#

just do the math of it proccing every 15s over 30-40 minutes

tulip kettle
#

with ignatus

#

yes i am aware and i did say its worth it in havoc with ignatus to some extent

gray juniper
#

Yea KF helps so much on high attack rates but he’s right it really needs smaller cooldowns

tulip kettle
#

but still its just not enough dg

summer prairie
#

BB doesn't do enough damage, KF does for one node pick

gray juniper
#

Dom what’s ignatus?

tulip kettle
#

when a lot of the time its what i would call pointless damage

#

you are doing damage to something that would have just burned to death in a few seconds anyway

#

oh purgatus, the flame staff

summer prairie
#

well that's true about a lot of things, but you are guaranteeing those psykinetic procs by getting the kill

#

anyone who attacks targets you are setting on fire is doing "pointless damage"

tulip kettle
#

kinda but not

gray juniper
#

Hrmmm!

#

Like that newb that was robbing my kills lmao

tulip kettle
#

like im not disagreeing with you dude and its fine to take it but i also think its not as ipactful as may seem

summer prairie
#

okay

tulip kettle
#

i agree its very good for getting procs

#

and ensuring PC and wildfire etc

#

but when theres 20 crushers and bulwarks there

#

doing 1/6th of one of their hp doesnt seem that impactful

#

even if you do it 500 times in a game

fierce crest
summer prairie
#

that's fine, it's good for some things, not everything

gray juniper
#

This why I like the EK because it stuns so good but I get mobbed by smaller enemy on lower difficulties, so it’s not much of a point?

tulip kettle
#

EK is so fun in everything not havoc

gray juniper
#

I hate that so much but I’ll have to accept it’s true

tulip kettle
#

in havoc it can be fine if your team needs more ranged focus and has enough flamers

gray juniper
#

My favorite staff no joke

tulip kettle
#

but usually you just need to run flame staff in havoc for the team to have enough dps

gray juniper
#

That sounds rare

#

To the former

fierce crest
#

fire trauma my beloved

#

welcome back sienna conflagration

inland berry
#

are there any good FGS builds rn?

jovial juniper
#

Gun psyker

#

Like every other melee build

#

You can even use Bolt Pistol puncture tech

#

For blood waves

inland berry
#

how do I execute that?

#

like i think i know the basic theory

#

but I assume I need to swap to gun and then fgs in a specific timing?

deft stump
#

No. FGS special and swap into bistol as it flies.

inland berry
#

gotcha

deft stump
#

You need gun out as it flies through the horde.

#

Works the same with Assail.

fierce crest
#

i thought they fixed that

deft stump
fierce crest
#

at least with assail

#

never tried it with sword wave

deft stump
#

You just need to swap to gun as they are flying.

fierce crest
#

yeah

deft stump
#

Ppl say it still works.

#

FGS slash is confirmed.

fierce crest
#

yep

#

huh, i swear i heard it got patched

deft stump
#

I think they fixed it applying brittle/rending or something. Shrugs.

fierce crest
#

this seems very underwhelming

#

at least with assail you can stack the bleed quickly

#

force wave is so slow

summer prairie
#

4 stacks is only like 56 base cumulative damage to infested

fierce crest
#

yeah

#

with assail you throw a few shards before swapping and some things will get hit multiple times

summer prairie
#

you can be quick enough to reapply it but you could also be doing more useful things and farming the horde for charges instead

gray juniper
#

doing an assail flurry at the end of scriers with quick shards

ripe obsidian
#

Why does bistol dogbomb do less initial damage than otherwise?

#

On a reaper, bistol dogbomb is doing ~1100 damage + shock + bleed, whereas melee is like 1800 + shock.

#

Both weapons have +flak, neither has +unyielding

#

I think the stagger happens before the damage... Which means Execution + High Voltage is proccing

summer prairie
#

try it with no respite on your gun

ripe obsidian
#

Replacing lethal prox, I imagine?

summer prairie
#

oh right

#

it doesn't have it

ripe obsidian
#

Just in my testing, the melee weapon out means dogbomb does ~2550 damage, whereas bistol is like 3600+. More if you swap back to melee

#

So it's still more damage overall, just a lower initial hit

summer prairie
#

yeah but it's just abuse rather than a clever strategy

ripe obsidian
#

I just wanted to test it. D:

#

I like the executioner shotgun more

#

Weird. The bleed applies on... shock hits? I didn't realize that

deft stump
#

Like how grenades count as melee kills or ranged kills based on weapon out.

plucky flax
#

Do you have high voltage on your weapon?

#

Melee*

proper osprey
ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

So the dog shock does more damage.

ripe obsidian
#

I did say that. D:

proper osprey
#

Oh yeah it effects the explosion radius

proper osprey
#

Forgot about that ngl

plucky flax
#

Yes I am blind.

#

I am sorry. SadgeCry

ripe obsidian
#

Is okay

proper osprey
plucky flax
#

You shouldn't.

proper osprey
#

Prepare yourself

plucky flax
#

I need to learn.

#

Spank me.

ripe obsidian
#

Kinky.

proper osprey
plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

What perks are you using on your maul? Flak/Unyielding or Cara/Unyield?

plucky flax
#

Flak unyielding cos it already kill crushers so well.

plucky flax
#

So the extra damage against the captains kinda help.

ripe obsidian
#

I thought so.

#

That is what I am doing as well

plucky flax
#

It's so op

#

I tried the newly buffed tacaxe on arby.

#

And I dunno the shock maul is just clear.

proper osprey
ripe obsidian
#

Still using PA > H > H > special as your combo?

proper osprey
#

Combat axe is crazy strong on him

marble crater
#

Where are the shield lovers? Sitgryn

proper osprey
#

Tbh I don’t even like c stance

#

Break the line with forceful >

plucky flax
#

Also I'm using cheat mod to do it for me anyway. pepesurrender

#

If I play manually it'd just be push attack heavy heavy

ripe obsidian
#

the bonus damage from the special is significant

plucky flax
plucky flax
marble crater
#

My combo for shield is whatever I feel like doing

ripe obsidian
#

Canine Morale seems like an insanely good talent if you're using doggo

plucky flax
#

I can show you op horde clear combo on it.

marble crater
#

Which is the mk11, the top or bottom mark? sipsad

ripe obsidian
#

"Klling Pounced Targets grants Allies in Coherency +20% Toughness Damage Reduction and +10% Toughness over 5s."

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

Top is like mk6 or something.

marble crater
#

I'm using the top one at the moment, what's the OP combo? loregryn

plucky flax
#

I think the mk11 just feels easier to play.

ripe obsidian
#

This is the arby maul + arby shotgun build I have settled on, at least for now. I might try the left keystone

plucky flax
#

For single target just heavy spam.

marble crater
marble crater
ripe obsidian
#

Go ahead. The two talents I'm debating moving are the dog-specific keystone and Canine Morale, but both are a pretty significant improvement to the hound

plucky flax
marble crater
#

I will try, maybe it's too complicated for me sipsad

plucky flax
#

If you're not bothered about the push for extra cleave then it's simpler.

#

Just light heavy

proper osprey
#

Target Neutralised is pretty good ngl

marble crater
proper osprey
#

Let your dog chew something and boom you have confirmed kill like a vet

marble crater
plucky flax
#

Hmm the shock shield can tank crusher overhead I guess it's intended.

ripe obsidian
proper osprey
#

Forceful make your perfect blocks block everything I believe

ripe obsidian
#

It's more the extra range and the ranged enemy focus that's valuable, but I'm seeming the dog act pretty inconsistent unless I'm directing it

#
The Cyber-Mastiff initiates attacks against enemies in two main ways:

(1) By default, it automatically tries to attack the closest attacking enemy within 6m to the player. Alternatively, it can select targets within up to 16m to the player; should prioritize close melee elites over other elites and specials over other enemies. Generally, the Cyber-Mastiff tries to attack appropriate targets within range that are attacking the player and are inside the player's FOV. Does not automatically attack Poxburster.

(2) Using the command-tag (double tap), the player can command the Cyber-Mastiff to attack one taggable enemy within tagging distance (100m); passive Daemonhosts are not valid targets. The Cyber-Mastiff will then attack the target dealing damage until it dies, or until the tag duration (25s) runs out, or until the target is changed by the player tagging a different one.

If the player is disabled by a Mutant or Pox Hound breed, the Cyber-Mastiff will automatically jump at it thereby freeing the player. If the player is grabbed by a Chaos Spawn or Daemonhost, or is consumed by a Beast of Nurgle, the Cyber-Mastiff will automatically continue to attack the disabling monster (ignoring any command-tagged target). Note that while being disabled (e.g. while netted), the player can still command-tag enemies.

The leap attack has a fixed cooldown of 1.5s; the effective time before Cyber-Mastiff leaps again can be longer depending on the necessary steps in its attack positioning and/or target selection logic.
proper osprey
#

Tbh I wish the dog would just focused specials

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

Adamant Will

proper osprey
ripe obsidian
#

Left node, right keystone

#

Icon is two crossed mauls

plucky flax
#

Nein I am playing left keystone

ripe obsidian
#

It's TWBS + block bonus

proper osprey
#

Twbs with fnp

#

Now to not die on Arby

#

Take toughness talents

plucky flax
proper osprey
#

Take forceful

#

Profit

ripe obsidian
#

@marble crater Yeah, the +50% damage on ranged enemies only increases DPS on the dog by like 80. 380ish to 460ish on a scab gunner.

#

The damage increase is negligible

marble crater
#

Ranged enemy priority though chadgryn

ripe obsidian
#

I haven't noticed the dog AI being great about that

#

Sometimes it is

#

But most of the time I'm commanding it anyway. Just can't command it to get basic shooters

plucky flax
#

Yeah the dog keep running back to me

#

Like bruh go and run wild

#

Get all the specials for daddy

proper osprey
#

@plucky flax can you test something for me pleaseessss

#

How much does tac axe do to bosses with scriers precog and 15 stacks of dd? With warp rider

plucky flax
#

That's too hard.

gray juniper
proper osprey
#

It’s pretty good for single target

#

And I took it into a 40 yesterday and did amazing

#

All of his toughness gain talents are absolutely crazy

#

Blue bar was constantly refilling even when I was in terrible situations

ripe obsidian
#

I am confused why so few people take Arbites Vigilant

#

Shockjaw dog replenishes forceful stacks in like 2 seconds

#

And +25% strength for 10 seconds is fantastic

deft stump
gray juniper
marble crater
deft stump
wheat monolith
#

hey friends could i have some builds? havent played since nov 11

marble crater
gray juniper
#

Btw the pinned ones are current

gentle hamlet
#

Yo does ball spam work with voidstrike or does it have to be electrokinetic?

deft stump
#

Like a free 15% crit rate.

gentle hamlet
#

I didn’t even know that was a thing big dog

#

The quell cancel thing

sturdy reef
#

you can

#

kinda quell cancel

modest perch
#

oh yea for a while you could spam it at ludicrous speed

sturdy reef
#

aint the same as before though]

gentle hamlet
modest perch
#

i always called it the machinegun staff

gentle hamlet
#

Is voidtstrike good without bspam? Kinda wanna use this thing now

jovial juniper
#

VoidSTRIKE is kinda of a M2 type of thing

#

With Surge you can shoot 2 bowling balls if you crit

gentle hamlet
#

Sounds pretty good

#

You still want super low warp resistance on it, right? Like the inferno?

jovial juniper
#

VoidSTRIKE dumps Blast Radius

#

Because it only affects the explosion of the bowling ball, which we don't really care about

lunar marsh
#

Okay so i've played a bit and i've picked those 2

#

Oh, i can't send pictures

deft stump
sturdy reef
#

EK was always the machine gun staff because it has crit bonus

deft stump
marble crater
hearty wolf
#

am I red

#

I'm red

marble crater
#

Why wouldn't you be red staregryn

hearty wolf
#

I'm rarely here!

#

I've spent a loooot of money this month on games

#

But Arbites

#

I need it

#

I can't convince myself to keep playing Stellar Blade

#

I've just been grinding Nightreign

marble crater
static panther
#

Y’all got a favourite staff

#

I main the electro one

#

But if anyone could sell me on one of the others

modest perch
#

trauma is awesome. like an infinite ammo grenade launcher

#

so is the purge but you gotta take assail or brainpop cus its range is limited

static panther
#

Trauma?

marble crater
#

Elektro and then Blast, Blast for when I feel like bullying melee elites

marble crater
static panther
#

Oh okay

#

I see that one a lot

#

And voidstrike

hearty wolf
#

The higher difficulty you go, the more you see the other staffs that aren't electro because their utility is insane

static panther
#

Yeah I’ll try them out

#

Not sure how I feel about inferno

marble crater
#

The higher you go the less you see voidstrike as well KEKW_ogryn

modest perch
#

im a big fan of the super low warp res fire staff shriek spam build

static panther
#

I tested a levelled one on damnation and wasn’t really feeling it

modest perch
#

just burn everything forever

marble crater
static panther
#

I see

deft stump
strong gulch
#

A wild Sin has appeared

nocturne dust
#

Inferno is the best staff

ripe obsidian
#

You're the best staff

nocturne dust
deft stump
strong gulch
#

I showed unprepared. I'm sure sin will escape.

deft stump
#

Oh no.

unborn lark
#

does range damage talents apply to assails?

nocturne dust
#

yes

long robin
ripe obsidian
#

@nocturne dust wanna do havoc stuff later?

nocturne dust
marble crater
#

Longer than you want loregryn

ripe obsidian
#

Be careful not to hurt yourself moving said heavy things

plucky flax
#

Use forklift.

strong gulch
#

I'll fork lift some food into my face.

#

I'm gonna get booed.

fiery stratus
hearty wolf
#

But I am back

#

Momentarily

strong gulch
#

well hi

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

Tru SadgeCry

summer marsh
#

Electricity

hearty wolf
#

hi

patent steeple
#

btw, is Warp Nexus/BA still the best blessing combo for inferno staff on Auric?

analog agate
#

Ya

upper sun
#

ye

wheat monolith
limpid lily
#

damn a buddy of mine is getting mad thinking that it's hard-coded whenever he pulls out his Smite, a random melee guy spawns behind him xD

frosty lava
#

What's the best way to do the 50% of monstrosity health in a private game? All shield ogryns tanking it?

marble crater
marble crater
frosty lava
#

Ah okay

gray juniper
#

I’m available

frosty lava
#

If you don't mind

gray juniper
#

I don’t mind

frosty lava
#

I messaged you my friend code

brazen compass
#

I do mind chadgryn

gray juniper
zinc phoenix
#

So I was trying the bubble knight concept in havoc a bunch and it wasn’t clicking with me until I moved to the mk8 and then suddenly everything worked and I started doing really well 😂

wind wind
#

Anyone in here can tell me what talent tree nodes in psykers tree elicit the most crits with the telecinetic force staff?

I feel like it fucks armor when crit but it feels like a wet noodle when it doesnt

verbal thistle
#

The gamble staff strikes again

#

Gaze is the only way to get crit from talents

#

(besides the small 5% crit chance node above kinetic reflection)

#

And soul drinker I guess

#

But that's never worth it

wind wind
#

So, to put it bluntly, there is nothing much i can do?

verbal thistle
#

Nope

#

I run gaze and the crit chance node

#

As well as surge and Nexus on my staff

wind wind
#

Alright. What about perks/blessings?

wind wind
verbal thistle
#

Flak + unyielding/crit chance

wind wind
#

Noted

#

Thx ainz

wind wind
verbal thistle
#

Warp unbound

#

And I tap quell after each attack

upper sun
#

how the shit is this auric now?

#

they sait it was high intensity by default

verbal thistle
#

Feels bugged, even though it's supposedly in the code

analog agate
# upper sun how the shit is this auric now?

You didn’t do quickplay by chance? If I do quickplay for auric it puts me in regular damnation story missions.

Also, auric is definitely no harder than before. I am confused by FS’s claims

unborn lark
#

any1 able to post a assail build for me pls?

upper sun
#

there is no way in hell auric has high intensity by default

analog agate
#

I know they did say on update day that that hi int auric missions is bugged

true lake
#

bio lodestone or overpowering souls for brain rupture?

(15% per kill or guaranteed on elite kill)

analog agate
#

Guaranteed. Always

true lake
#

figured just wanted to double check real quick

autumn timber
#

Does anyone have any basic builds for a beginner player? I've been following a Melee one but I am interested in using Assail and Smite a lot!

true lake
#

well you gonna have to choose between the two of those

autumn timber
#

Ye of course, just using those as guidlines for builds I am interested in :3

true lake
#

if you plan on running either of those, then you might want to bring something else to fill in for single target damage, smite is decent at stunning a single target but its definitely not made for damage

#

psyker is probably the most versatile class all things considered, you can get away with a lot if you play around with the talent tree

proper osprey
proper osprey
#

It’s what I use on him but if I’m doing voidblast or inferno I do brain burst

true lake
#

assail is the "oh shit here comes a pack of dogs" kind of blitz

#

really good at taking out low armor enemies

proper osprey
#

Burst elite clear

#

\ horde clear

#

Very useful

true lake
#

it can work on the chaff too but you have to stay on top of how much shards you have

proper osprey
#

So good it doesn’t even need nodes

strong gulch
#

I did it. I started the campaign. Emptiest damnation of my life.

upper sun
#

yeah i am not doing the campaign

true lake
#

personally ive always loved the deimos force sword

proper osprey
upper sun
#

they had 3 years to add in a story mode

true lake
#

smite is what the lightning staff used to be where it spreads out a bunch and stunlocks enemies mainly

strong gulch
autumn timber
#

Aw, I like shocking people for big cc :(

upper sun
#

ehhhhh

proper osprey
true lake
#

the assail is better at actual cc than smite is, smite has a limited amount of targets it can jump to

ripe obsidian
#

Burninate the countryside.

proper osprey
#

It takes you out the equation and really does nothing while nerfing your team

#

Especially zealots

true lake
#

smite is something you want to bring to stunlock a big fucker for your teammates

proper osprey
#

Narp

true lake
#

even then there are better options

proper osprey
#

No need to cc if it dies in like a second

autumn timber
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Good to know, sad it is that way since it is fun to use :(

true lake
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its unfortunate yeah, but its also about as fun to burn the entire room

proper osprey
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Same with vet, oggy, and now Arby

ripe obsidian
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The variable in the code is also burninate, I believe, so the devs are people of culture