#psyker-class
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you have to get downed like 4-5 times in a short succesion I think
everyone has a form of that remark for a specific class that keeps going down
That explains why I never heard it then 
for example the savant psyker tells veteran to "alter their tactics towards staying upright"
Well, my build seems to perform pretty well in H40. Good defense, good offense. The other Arbiter outdamaged me, but their build was pretty ranged-oriented as opposed to my melee one.
I am running doggo build. Haven't tried dogless in havoc yet
also has anyone else noticed they changed the comms pic for sister hestia
she no longer awkwardly stares directly at the camera like a boomer trying to facetime
About time
There's only like a 3 node difference between doggo and dogless builds
The previous picture was bad
Uglier model of her too
I mean it's the mourningstar crew, I don't expect anyone to look pretty 
I do, you are telling me that guy can change my gender but can't make people pretty?
um yeah it's called WARhammer not prettyhammer 

Disco Aquila is a mod for Darktide that changes the Arbites' Nuncia Aquila to have disco lights and music


after our discussion yesterday i made this
did pretty well for me last night, kind of unkillable honestly
this was in havoc 30s
Okay so for the first time in months, i broke my principle
After one more team that had a massive breakdown at the breaker switch part of the maelstrom
I went smiker
and suddenly it fucking works
...
I feel dirty now
man dont hate on smite fo real
Its okay. But its super crutchy
kind of
but at the same time, only if you use it that way
there is literally nothing wrong with smite
just a stigma because of bad players who use it
guns dont kill people. people kill people.
and now the arby exists, smite is even more so a legit team based choice
oh, you do +200% damage to shocked and stunned enemies?
always has been
allow me to introduce myself
Dunno man. Smiker feels... off... to use. Like. Yeah, its okay. But at the same time I shouldn't have to stunlock an entire room for a mission to work
even if its auric maelstrom
yeah so dont
kill em instead
smite is useful for a quick 2 second blast to make space and throw everything out the way
Did that earlier on my other classes ^^ 5 failed attempts due to all my team dieing in the breaker room and me getting overwhelmed later
then straight back to killing
So i just held the fuckin tide at bay this time and it works
I just wanted to get this stupid maelstrom done anyway, ngl.
Not the enclavum baros but the ice metalfab one
That was pure pain.
I usualy run traumastaff ds
Don't hate on smite unless said psyker isn't running EP smite
People don't hate on smite, we hate on smykers, big difference
Yep.
Smhkers
Which is why it felt super dirty to have to crutch that earlier. Now to clense my palete with some good old flamepsyker
And then back to trauma
:3
Just play blaze trauma and skip a step
If I ever encounter smykers I just run past the enemies they are smiting 

Bro....
what is this today
Auric maelstrom, warren 6-19
2 rushers sprint ahead and get ABSOLUTELY shat on
queue the other 2 of us being left to deal with everything

Sounds perfectly normal for this time
Shock mine op for boss fighting
Around 24% companion damage in those two rounds + dog explosions maybe 78k
shock dog and bistol OP for boss fighting 🙂
just did an auric mortis and got 800k boss dmg with it
it's a good mod
I've been given too much power
I think ovenproof not counting the full dog damage
Don't think it's counting the electric
not sure which version you are using
your voltaic node damgae is included in your melee damage
Oh there's new update
Is the psyker damage fix?
there's no new version
but I know internally it's melee damage
so without a fix it's included in melee
oh new beta yeah
Voltaic mandibles uses a melee damage template, hence it being counted as melee
it's the same effect as the old shock maul
I changed something my game is now smooth 60+ fps from choppy 30fps on laptop
What's that again?
are you still eating
I am heading back
wat do
are you playing at work
I dont know it's fartshart optimisation
Ye im stuck at work this weekend. Will go home tomorrow after lunch
man I think I need to stop playing arbites and go back to psyker
this class is making me so incredibly careless
I get 1 extra free day leave for working half day Saturday
maelstrom without anyone gettinf downed
I think most probably is change dlss from balanced to performance
same

Pretty sure I have that off
According to Kuli this is how the dog bleed is supposed to be applied, so it's not even supposed to apply to the pounced target (but sometimes it does)
If you have nvidia you should use dlss
isnt the range higher?
based AI slop hater
Oh hey, Darktide did turn on the stupid 'low latency' nvidia reflex thing tho
I turned it off
Feels like lower latency already 
Just turn your PC off at this point 
Actually true
The outside does tend to have the highest FPS
I use xess set to balanced
I have the peak mixed AI slop with dlss upscaler but FSRFG 
@summer prairie cheat mod for you
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/550
No thanks, yikes

I actually like swapping manually so won't need this.
I swap before blitz normally.
I want to run new stuff anyway and that's a bit too op anyway
Latest ovenproof patch still have psyker bug damage.
yikes
I dunno what I'm doing but it looks cool doing shield special walking up to shooter.
Syllo wanna get carried in h40 by karien?
She said I'm too heavy alone.
Arbites is the bully class
Also the charge ability looks so much cooler with shield.
Karien can carry even better now, the dog doesn't suffer from high ping
WDYM? I'm on my Zealot. My Arbites don't even have half decent curios unless you count 1 20 and 2 19 HP to be okay.
You don't need decent curios to carry
Why don't you carry me then? 
I'm not good enough 
what, you 2 want to play?
Me? No 
Karien/Agent
It’s crazy how Tommy richman did the retro Memphis sound so well that the music legit sounds so old
@upper sun you are in Budapest right? 
ye
I have a friend who will visit next month, any recommendations for food and what he should visit? 
gimmie a bit ill dm you
Thank you 
weed
I see 

why is a backpack stuck on my psyker even though it's unequipped? ;_;
Who two?
It's for the people you have to carry
Ah. So someone you run the hell with, I assume? XD
And yes, I feel so spoiled on Arbites... Run funni stam, tanky, run funni HP, overkill unless the worst of worst... Zealot feels like paper now.
@summer prairie 193k doggo damage if it's not counting the dog's electric then easily like 220k or more.
Praise the doggo
I might enjoy dog with shield more than shock maul now.
It's very safe.
For dogless shock maul is king.
I know. And if you run impact, just bully everything like big man.
The damage is just too absurd.
I don't see why impact when everything is staggered already.
Unless it can stagger monsters.
2 hit crusher fails about.
I use shield + maul and shield + pistol, because it's just cool
If I play the police brutality class, I will do it right
But requires all the full stacks though.
That gif is adorable
I like shield pistol for cool factor but the damage is kinda poopy.
It's more, bully a horde of crushers spamming push l1 l2, push l1 l2.
Me and you bois night out.
I like how you did nearly 20k boss damage karien.
Tru carry.
Ask FS to rework Chorus so you can still attack channeling it?
its the ogryn that did all the work
Play arby with the floatin eye thing
without his skull crusher i wont be doing like 210% more dmg to bosses that have the skull crusher debuff + soften them up + taunt
i had to turn her down to 50% since i can hear static noise
Might have been the fan, it's hot over there
No. Fan was off.
I turned it off for H40.

Agent is also your fan and yet you flame him when he praises you 
Wot.
not the fans, its just when you speak there is an electric static
Because what damage? I'm there to just chorus and nothing more.
I wonder if it's the wires in the PC being karked now.
Is tru I burn everytime.
there's not much on gameslantern... can anyone recommend a havoc build?
Easiest is burga with bubble.
Take kf from bb.
Spam shield spam flame.
But with so many arbies running around now might be better to play a melee/gun build.
what the hell is a burga. and a kf. and a bb.
Because they won't stay still for you to flame the horde.
Inferno staff, Kinetic Flayer, Brain Burst
I think it's just PC dying and the electrical static is from the ports.
you mean kinetic presence?
Inferno staff, linectic flayer and brain burst
No I mean kinetic flayer

oh nvm i see now
in my previous run voltaic mandibles did 180k, companion 156k
I was making it jump between targets constantly though
Yeah, echo cancellation is just not working on Discord.
I dunno, I hear it when I turn off echo cancellation for like Steam.
Any hints on a new psyker player ?
Assail best friend when lvling. If you are that new.
Okay, i'll try !
Thanks a lot
Just don't blow up using it all.
the voltaic damage shows up under melee if you make it show attack templates
in power di
Yo change high voltage to execution. It works better against monsters.
Not running relentless strike?
confident or relentless?
Execution relentless.
With dogless I don't need confident strike.
Cos the right keystone gives toughness gen pretty good.
this is a dog build, high voltage executioner, undecided whether the monster damage from relentless is better
than buffing everything else and voltaic
Oh yeah with dog then high voltage for sure.

50% power kinda big when fighting monsters.
If you don't miss. Xd
Execituion high voltage the better play tbh.
More damage against everything.
I think you just shock things hitting them.
I get extra damage on my second cycle through. Push light light, push light light.
You have to stagger it, which is super easy to do.
I'm testing atm without any impact talent. Without staggering they won't get electrocuted.
I have hammerblow, I know.
So i just have to play it to change the type of psyker power?
Maulers kiss the floor.
You are pro you know everything. 
Yes, first 3 lvls suck.
Sorry if I sound like a noob, haven't played any class except Zealoth
.-. I don't. I just mess around with things because impact funny.
I don't even know if bistol dog bomb works in havoc.
As other weapons i got a Bolter handgun and the basic sword
Do i need to change as well ?
Just run through and hope teammates can help till you get assail, then you use it till you get high enough.
Why would it not?
As in, the breakpoints.
That thing kills alot on auric.
Oh, so you did try it.
It's just run saving in aurics tbh.
Even if I hold my bistol like a statstick.
I only know Arbites.
Checking weapons need another button press.
Also, I have DLSS off and no FPS whatsoever. XD
Some ppl say better to turn it off so tried.
Honestly, I think the smears for twice the fps might be worth it.
Also, tbh, I saw a shotgun and nothing more.
Why dlss off? 
More stable framerates.
Less smear so I can actually see.
It made inferno more berable.
Still blinded if one colour filter, but can't do much about that.
did another very long and painful run, 208k companion, 214k voltaic mandibles
even dog explosion was 186k and I don't use it very well still
Also, I could see better on last wound than I ever did the rest of my DT playtime. I just forgot how to Zealot tbh.
Just don't be on the last wound, smh
You play zealot after like a week of Arbites.
I keep trying to block ranged shots.
You can't block ranged shots with zealot 
That's the problem.
Why do you try it then? 
Arbites muscle memory.
Hasn't even been a week, smh
You mean smeartide.
I'm playing sleep deprivation 
Is it too hot?
I haven't slept for like... a day and uhhh...16 hours?
sleeps overrated
Hot and my dog keeps waking me hours before I need to 
This is why dogless build exist.
have u tried sleeping earlier
Nuncio-aquila currently gives 70% toughness DR rather than 30% with the node
You have naughty doggo then.
ur dog is too scared to act out
Which would explain alot then.
Yes, she woke me up even earlier 
I drop that thing and lul
She is in heat and wants to go outside 
My lil gal just scoots under my bed.
Oh. Carrot lost hers due to... bad infection from... r.

Yeah.
@marble crater happened again lmao
I got the camo dawg
nice
The eyes don't glow sadly if it's the stun bosses one.
Is why she gets aggressive around male dogs tbh.
Well that's fair
Even dogs 5 times her size.
One day boys
One day we will be the best class
One day we will allow the warp to consume us and only then will the emperor listen to us
Maybe we should become one with heresy
In order to obtain greater power over the ogryns and arbi
Subjugate the classes and put them under boot of the power of the warp
I see you want more knowledge.
430 power trinket
it's +1 wounds
thank you Melk!
Congrats
On Zealot at least to show off when Martyrdoming?
My psyker only uses 430 rating curios, I'm not a peasant
Nice
Does rating even matter
yes for stamina curios
you can't get a +3 stamina curio unless it's above 400 rating
oh yeah it matters big time
the bigger the power rating the close to the maximum modifier value you are for the primary stats
np
Wow remember us when you’re famous
You can get one, but it's a fake. Best to tell them that tbh.
Why be abhuman when you can be a demigod?
I’ve never seen a 430 curio lmao 😭
Because he plays 4D chess.
So sad 
Your mind can't comprehend it.
M’lord
Epsilon level psyker
Uhhh... I'm either a blunt or dunno, something something Tzeentch sorc but Slaaneshi.
There's a reason why if anyone knew my old OC, much reeeeeeeeeeee to be had.
Chaos Sister but Tzeentch awakened sorcerer but actually Slaaneshi.
Shock mine op
do you push attack crushers
No heavy light is better.
lazy
But there was mixed horde so I wanted to cleave it too.
If the dreg rager nearby might get clipped.
Ritual is too hellish with pugs.

Is just smite but does damage.
it lets enemies come closer so less annoying
So you are saying easier to carry me?
what is the giant cleave text that appears 
overhead warning?
Yep.
I dunno it's more because I had a guy with me I knew going to back me up when I run to ritual.
When I'm solo party finder pugging I'm there and 3 guys are bing chilling back.
When the Psyker with the shield is mucking about in the back and then gets solo'd by a boss because he lagged behind and then blames it on the rest of the team for progressing past an area we already cleared 
Ah. Normally you would tell me to run with you on mic. So, herp.
Because Arbites is broken op tanky!
Zealot feels like tissue with undying on a 2 mins CD.
what about psyker then
Have you tried not getting hit? 
Vet feels like tissue with a 30 sec I survive one big hit.
Psyker is ded.
Or I'm alive because they shooting me from front and I have basically so little peril gen so will survive till that runs out.
Deflector block cost reduction and kd.
You play with 10 fps in fights.
When absolute mess happens.
People can like what they like and it’s so cool with me 👌👍🤗
Like it’s fantasy absolutely have fun
But that was before Chaos Sisters were canon.
I made her when I was like 14-15 or so.
Aww
The greatsword is actually so good and I was wrong about because I didn’t know how to use it properly and try out the different marks. Quick question tho to @marble crater @plucky flax and other pros. I used unstable power and shred for the bubble knight build like it says. It’s great on regular levels. Playing the twins I noticed I have a problem soloing sword twin. I run out of dodge or block because of multi enemy on me and heavy special by boss. She hits me with her longest attack after depleted dodge or my block gets broken
Mechanically what am I doing wrong and would it be a bad idea to use boost on curios like stamina or block, or use deflector blessing because it seems to help with block effectiveness?

Yes I’m asking you too 😑🔫
I'm not familiar with the bubble knight build, does it use kinetic deflection?
Because you should be able to block for a long time with that I think?
Its just hard to fight that
Your best bet is to run away
Yes
Twins fight is too difficult 
You know I’m a dummy. I forgot I was actually using a gaze build for that one. No kinetic deflection btw @marble crater
Not-Rinda is especially hard as Psyker with no proper tools to fight
IMO best way to deal with it is just block and dodge until she gets bored
If you’re last up that’s impossible lol
Yeah 
No kinetic deflection doesn't help 
Bruv…
Also that charged swing she does hits in a 360
Would deflector or a curio enhancement?
So if you're behind her and she swings, you're still getting hurt
You're pro if youre playing melee without kd
I don't use KD because I never need it when I have it, and then I eat dirt when I do need it and don't have it 
I mean not having it doesn't help, you should have it, imo 
And that's why I use it, even if I don't need it 95% of the time
I’m damn sure not. It took two tries on damnation with the first team failing then I went down in the second one but a good arbites named Amber got me up and we duo’s
If you need twins hm I can help
I just have to figure out how to squeeze it into my builds that don't have it
I’m legit afraid to use it on other builds. I’m always dancing high on peril. Head gonna go off like a cherry bomb
You dont explode due to kd blocking
It'll just won't work at max peril and use your stamina
Ty fren. I got it done. Just doing the story thing but trying to find ways to beat these clowns since they show up in havoc
Ok that’s a big positive
Throw the oggy at them.
You can't explode, you just use stamina instead and then die
I was too slow
Thats what i just said (karien took over my phone)
Don't flame me 
Sry wasn't me
In the current set up the recon lasgun takes down maulers and ragers reasonably fast. The sword works well too. Working the shields down on captains/karnaks ain’t worth it from a distance is the problem. You really have to get in there with the sword
Ye better to melee shield
It’s always faster yes sir
Light attack shield as well don't need to heavy attack it
What’s your movement combo dealing with them?
But magdumping into the shield makes a funny sound
lol
Movement combo?
Does deflector actually provide any extra blocking besides bullets or am I imagining things?
^separate Q by the way my bad
Like how do you keep stamina or dodges up dealing with them?
Stop blaming me for things you said. I'm an ocean away from you or a massive landmass.
Normally I try not to solo them
I’m least experienced of all enemies dealing with captains
Because they always get murked so fast on normal rounds
Deflector lowers block cost and lets you block shots.
I wish I had tips for fighting captains, I only got block if they focus you, attack if they don't 
Twins is the bane of my existence
so as someone who doesnt know any better, which of tanner's psyker takes are most egregious? i noticed he dismissed empyric resolve, combustion, kinetic deflection, and flayer
I like those but im not pro like him
im mostly asking cause i searched on here to see any specifics but it was mostly a troll/fan being like "hes good tho" and not listening to anyone
Out of those 4 I would say all are most egregious
I'll say this, some non-psykers here have better takes on psyker class than him.
All 4 of those talents are great
i'll have to skip back to the part on combustion but his take on ER was something along the lines of "but u want high peril!"
which made me think "then cast more...?"
unless im missin somethin lmao
oh and he was also very adamant abt quietude over warp expenditure
ER makes it easier to manage high peril
More or less. In havoc, is god sent.
with KD i assume it's just a good safety net? although i dont block in this game as much as i did in VT
That one is true, warp expenditure is garbage
Ok so I’m noticing it correctly. I may throw it back on at the expense of shred or unstable power. I’m not sure which one one the bigger loss to drop to drop though
I’m getting gaslighted by people on this discord talking about it being too easy. Must be ogryn mains or cracked mods idk idk
KD is a safety net, yes. You always wish you had it when you didn't take it type of node.
95% of the time you won't need it, but it's really good that 5% of the time. Good for reviving people in the middle of a horde, tanking a DH you accidentally triggered because of soulblaze shenanigans
gotcha
Is a nice to have with KD if you aren't being shot in an open area. But is taste tbh.
Oggy mains and actually cheat lvl mods.
Content wise I have beaten more difficult things than the twins fight, it's mainly that I am not good at it 
Neat. I am debating making a left keystone build
Ever want hard to manually use frame perfect weapon swap attacks or special attacks? You can mod and do it way faster than most ppl.
So fast, even a chaos spawn dies to obscurus before it can attack.
damnation.
Constant staff charges is 👍👌
Something to keep in mind is that the melee twin takes more ranged damage on her shield, and the ranged twin takes more melee damage on his, just like the Orthus Offensive versions
If everyone is properly focused then it's relatively trivial, but still
No im talking about the deflector blessing
Yes, you need both to block shots with KD.
Otherwise you just get gunned down anyway if not timing your slides.
Or bubble.
If people use cheat tier mods like why play? Challenge is part of the point is it not? I really don’t like that. Especially if it becomes complaints about things needing to be more difficult that the rest of the player base doesn’t agree to
I’ve used deflector on its own for a long time. It’s effective but only for temporary and getting out of the way of problems
I dunno, I see aimbots even lul.
Duly noted!
Lmao wtf
Oh, Fatshark changed their mind and we can use some of the other cosmetics in the head slot now 
Seen it twice. Both vets
I mean, if it gets you out alive, it did it's job.
Can't quickdraw AI, I guess. They spazzed around shooting every special that barely just show up even behind them.
damn this definitely sounds like they needed permission from GW first
Could be half the map away with just a barely visible head.
Incomprehensible thoughts behind these decisions
Basically. Better to say no and ask first before things go to hell.
also, tanner's issue with combustion was that the stacks it gave "werent enough to kill"
but i feel that may miss the point since it's supposed to stack with every other instance of soulblaze youre doing right?
It is used to weaken stuff before they even come into range.
Which is better on great sword: shred or unstable power?
gotcha
i think the one im a bit lost on is kinetic flayer's value - i guess it's a nice bonus if it procs into a mixed horde?
i prefer unstable power
and have a FGS with all 80s except 30 warp res to make sure i stay there
It only hits elites and specials now.
it is quite good with ignatus into hordes as it helps pop the elites and get PC going
Treat it like a super crit every 15 secs... FS needs to halve the CD IMO.
but personally im not a huge fan of KF either
Or even third it.
for exactly that reason yes, ive said since day 1 its internal cd is way too long
5 secs seems reasonable due to channel time
Atheneum suggests as low warp res as possible for assail weaving with greatswords, either of these worth using for that?
60 warp res is what you want
Just started a psyker character.
Are uh... Gun psykers actually viable or a meme?
7 secs totally because you can do other things on top.
it explicitly says less than that
i mean yes less is better
but one with 60 warp res and 80 in everything else is just fine
:|
Also what are the dump stats and ideal blessings/perks for the psyker exclusive weapons
its just to make it easier to stay high peril
right so my question then
Cd?
cooldown
if you upgrade the first one until it has 80 in everything
then stop
it will probably have less than 60 warp res
theyre good but using ammo in havoc is sadge
so probly stick to auric-
You don’t really need warp resistance on it. It’s for the charged attack. Go with the 60%
gun psykers are really melee psykers tbf
Ah ty
I haven't touched havoc at all even after maxing my vet and zealot. I'm more concerned with knowing how every class basically works
psyker is its own special lil beast
I'm honestly more concerned with penance farming than actually getting good
main thing is that this class is the most punishing by far
then gunker is fine
ah thats what i was missing! ty
you just dont have the durability other classes do
Gun psyker is good even without taking scriers gaze
In any case, what are the uh dump stats and ideal perk/blessings for the psyker exclusive weapons
oh and im assuming EK being focused on primary fire is a thing of the past?
look at the pinned messages
It depends
It needs a CD, but not one that long. I'll say match full channel+1-2 secs.
If they did that, my current main would be lit
longer would be fine
but its low dmg and long cd which is lame
Idk it halves crushers & same tier enemy currently. I guess that’s fair for balance?
it most certainly is not and does not
does not do 10% of your damage?
maybe in damnation but not in havoc
maybe run power di and see
Maybe it’s my nodes but it does for me
Hate that shite
I've only played havoc since it was released
bb is almost a complete waste of time
I’ll let you know when I make it there lol sorry fam you know I’m not at the level yet
and ive always been the guy that loves BB
Me tew
That’s not cool fat ass shark
2 bursts often leaves a gunner with a tiny sliver of hp
then you consider they cost like 40% peril to cast and its just like
In a recent h40 running purg, BB was 14% of total damage and very little of that was manual since I didn't even have the speed node
im not doing that
Can’t even go that route
so it was almost all KF
just do the math of it proccing every 15s over 30-40 minutes
with ignatus
yes i am aware and i did say its worth it in havoc with ignatus to some extent
Yea KF helps so much on high attack rates but he’s right it really needs smaller cooldowns
but still its just not enough dg
BB doesn't do enough damage, KF does for one node pick
Dom what’s ignatus?
when a lot of the time its what i would call pointless damage
you are doing damage to something that would have just burned to death in a few seconds anyway
oh purgatus, the flame staff
well that's true about a lot of things, but you are guaranteeing those psykinetic procs by getting the kill
anyone who attacks targets you are setting on fire is doing "pointless damage"
kinda but not
like im not disagreeing with you dude and its fine to take it but i also think its not as ipactful as may seem
okay
i agree its very good for getting procs
and ensuring PC and wildfire etc
but when theres 20 crushers and bulwarks there
doing 1/6th of one of their hp doesnt seem that impactful
even if you do it 500 times in a game
its just so nice getting 50+ peril on demand, do you know how much it builds with one special at (near) 60% WR?
that's fine, it's good for some things, not everything
like 35 ish
This why I like the EK because it stuns so good but I get mobbed by smaller enemy on lower difficulties, so it’s not much of a point?
EK is so fun in everything not havoc
I hate that so much but I’ll have to accept it’s true
in havoc it can be fine if your team needs more ranged focus and has enough flamers
My favorite staff no joke
but usually you just need to run flame staff in havoc for the team to have enough dps
are there any good FGS builds rn?
Gun psyker

Like every other melee build
You can even use Bolt Pistol puncture tech
For blood waves
how do I execute that?
like i think i know the basic theory
but I assume I need to swap to gun and then fgs in a specific timing?
No. FGS special and swap into bistol as it flies.
gotcha
i thought they fixed that
You can try it.
You just need to swap to gun as they are flying.
yeah
I think they fixed it applying brittle/rending or something. Shrugs.
this seems very underwhelming
at least with assail you can stack the bleed quickly
force wave is so slow
4 stacks is only like 56 base cumulative damage to infested
yeah
with assail you throw a few shards before swapping and some things will get hit multiple times
you can be quick enough to reapply it but you could also be doing more useful things and farming the horde for charges instead
doing an assail flurry at the end of scriers with quick shards
Why does bistol dogbomb do less initial damage than otherwise?
On a reaper, bistol dogbomb is doing ~1100 damage + shock + bleed, whereas melee is like 1800 + shock.
Both weapons have +flak, neither has +unyielding
I think the stagger happens before the damage... Which means Execution + High Voltage is proccing
try it with no respite on your gun
Replacing lethal prox, I imagine?
Just in my testing, the melee weapon out means dogbomb does ~2550 damage, whereas bistol is like 3600+. More if you swap back to melee
So it's still more damage overall, just a lower initial hit
yeah but it's just abuse rather than a clever strategy
I just wanted to test it. D:
I like the executioner shotgun more
Weird. The bleed applies on... shock hits? I didn't realize that
Just FS thing.
Like how grenades count as melee kills or ranged kills based on weapon out.
Unless you’re using the crusher then yeah
Yes.
So the dog shock does more damage.
I did say that. D:
Oh yeah it effects the explosion radius
Right here
Forgot about that ngl
Is okay
I don’t forgive you
You shouldn't.
Prepare yourself
Kinky.
TRIPLE DOG DEATH BARRAGE

What perks are you using on your maul? Flak/Unyielding or Cara/Unyield?
Flak unyielding cos it already kill crushers so well.
So the extra damage against the captains kinda help.
It's so op
I tried the newly buffed tacaxe on arby.
And I dunno the shock maul is just clear.
Fr
Still using PA > H > H > special as your combo?
Combat axe is crazy strong on him
Where are the shield lovers? 
Yeah still. I dunno it feels good for me.
Also I'm using cheat mod to do it for me anyway. 
If I play manually it'd just be push attack heavy heavy
the bonus damage from the special is significant

I like shield the mk11 one.
My combo for shield is whatever I feel like doing
Canine Morale seems like an insanely good talent if you're using doggo
I can show you op horde clear combo on it.
Which is the mk11, the top or bottom mark? 
"Klling Pounced Targets grants Allies in Coherency +20% Toughness Damage Reduction and +10% Toughness over 5s."
Gib pls
The bottom one
Top is like mk6 or something.
I'm using the top one at the moment, what's the OP combo? 
I think the mk11 just feels easier to play.
This is the arby maul + arby shotgun build I have settled on, at least for now. I might try the left keystone
For single target just heavy spam.

I might steal this for inspiration once I'm finished with keystone penances 
Go ahead. The two talents I'm debating moving are the dog-specific keystone and Canine Morale, but both are a pretty significant improvement to the hound
Push - heavy - light - heavy
I will try, maybe it's too complicated for me 
If you're not bothered about the push for extra cleave then it's simpler.
Just light heavy
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f3b793e-4110-4ad4-a27e-62cd15bcf980/terrible-arbites-build my build atm
Target Neutralised is pretty good ngl
I like the ranged enemy keystone for dog, because I'm already dealing with any melee threat anyway and her hunting down specials is nice
Let your dog chew something and boom you have confirmed kill like a vet
Thanks, I shall try 
Hmm the shock shield can tank crusher overhead I guess it's intended.
That's why I'm keeping it for now. Just not sure if I will. The damage increase is honestly not significant, since it doesn't affect shock jaws
Forceful make your perfect blocks block everything I believe
It's more the extra range and the ranged enemy focus that's valuable, but I'm seeming the dog act pretty inconsistent unless I'm directing it
The Cyber-Mastiff initiates attacks against enemies in two main ways:
(1) By default, it automatically tries to attack the closest attacking enemy within 6m to the player. Alternatively, it can select targets within up to 16m to the player; should prioritize close melee elites over other elites and specials over other enemies. Generally, the Cyber-Mastiff tries to attack appropriate targets within range that are attacking the player and are inside the player's FOV. Does not automatically attack Poxburster.
(2) Using the command-tag (double tap), the player can command the Cyber-Mastiff to attack one taggable enemy within tagging distance (100m); passive Daemonhosts are not valid targets. The Cyber-Mastiff will then attack the target dealing damage until it dies, or until the tag duration (25s) runs out, or until the target is changed by the player tagging a different one.
If the player is disabled by a Mutant or Pox Hound breed, the Cyber-Mastiff will automatically jump at it thereby freeing the player. If the player is grabbed by a Chaos Spawn or Daemonhost, or is consumed by a Beast of Nurgle, the Cyber-Mastiff will automatically continue to attack the disabling monster (ignoring any command-tagged target). Note that while being disabled (e.g. while netted), the player can still command-tag enemies.
The leap attack has a fixed cooldown of 1.5s; the effective time before Cyber-Mastiff leaps again can be longer depending on the necessary steps in its attack positioning and/or target selection logic.
Tbh I wish the dog would just focused specials
Whats that? I dont have it
Adamant Will
Guh
Nein I am playing left keystone
It's TWBS + block bonus
You hate the zealot oggy keystone
Twbs with fnp

Now to not die on Arby
Take toughness talents
H40 crusher btw
@marble crater Yeah, the +50% damage on ranged enemies only increases DPS on the dog by like 80. 380ish to 460ish on a scab gunner.
The damage increase is negligible
Ranged enemy priority though 
I haven't noticed the dog AI being great about that
Sometimes it is
But most of the time I'm commanding it anyway. Just can't command it to get basic shooters
Yeah the dog keep running back to me
Like bruh go and run wild
Get all the specials for daddy
@plucky flax can you test something for me pleaseessss
How much does tac axe do to bosses with scriers precog and 15 stacks of dd? With warp rider
That's too hard.
That’s fuggin dope tbh. How’s the damage you’re putting up outside of the special and how would you rate target the weak on activiating?
Huh
It’s pretty good for single target
And I took it into a 40 yesterday and did amazing
All of his toughness gain talents are absolutely crazy
Blue bar was constantly refilling even when I was in terrible situations
I am confused why so few people take Arbites Vigilant
Shockjaw dog replenishes forceful stacks in like 2 seconds
And +25% strength for 10 seconds is fantastic
Push light light push light light works in aurics even at high ping btw.
Lmao I believe that. I didn’t use right keystone side at first but first build had the top of tree filled out like that and it was vigorous
Maybe I will just do random things and see what works 
Yeah. I do simple easy stuff. Heh.
hey friends could i have some builds? havent played since nov 11
There is one for every staff in the pins 
Thank you friend
Having a life?! 
Btw the pinned ones are current
Yo does ball spam work with voidstrike or does it have to be electrokinetic?
Quell cancel is no longer in play if you think of abusing it. It works with EK because EK has free crits.
Like a free 15% crit rate.
oh yea for a while you could spam it at ludicrous speed
aint the same as before though]
Actually tragic though bc I just got a juicy voidtstrike from a mission
i always called it the machinegun staff
Is voidtstrike good without bspam? Kinda wanna use this thing now
VoidSTRIKE is kinda of a M2 type of thing
With Surge you can shoot 2 bowling balls if you crit
Sounds pretty good
You still want super low warp resistance on it, right? Like the inferno?
VoidSTRIKE dumps Blast Radius
Because it only affects the explosion of the bowling ball, which we don't really care about
You can use it like a bowling staff. It's funni, but not great in havocs. Perfectly fine outside.
EK was always the machine gun staff because it has crit bonus
Most dumb blast. You can decide for yourself. It's at most a little extra stagger and mild damage.
usually we would tell you that you can once your name is red, but purple overwrites the red name, so you will have to check your roles every once in a while
Why wouldn't you be red 
I'm rarely here!
I've spent a loooot of money this month on games
But Arbites
I need it
I can't convince myself to keep playing Stellar Blade
I've just been grinding Nightreign
You can only play one handed for so long after all
Y’all got a favourite staff
I main the electro one
But if anyone could sell me on one of the others
trauma is awesome. like an infinite ammo grenade launcher
so is the purge but you gotta take assail or brainpop cus its range is limited
Trauma?
Elektro and then Blast, Blast for when I feel like bullying melee elites
Old name for Voidblast
The higher difficulty you go, the more you see the other staffs that aren't electro because their utility is insane
The higher you go the less you see voidstrike as well 
im a big fan of the super low warp res fire staff shriek spam build
I tested a levelled one on damnation and wasn’t really feeling it
just burn everything forever
Because inferno is the least interesting to play, evem though it scales the best into higher difficulties and bigger density of enemies
I see
I thought you would be asking, is Gloriana in Havoc back?
A wild Sin has appeared
You're the best staff

You catching?
I showed unprepared. I'm sure sin will escape.
Oh no.
does range damage talents apply to assails?
yes
me who just loves voidstrike anyway, I like my janky rocket launcher
@nocturne dust wanna do havoc stuff later?
We'll see. I'm helping move a bunch of heavy stuff today, dunno how long it will take.
Longer than you want 
Be careful not to hurt yourself moving said heavy things
Use forklift.
I did
But I am back
Momentarily
You're a forklift
Tru 
Electricity
hi
btw, is Warp Nexus/BA still the best blessing combo for inferno staff on Auric?
Ya
ye
Blue flames make me happy
damn a buddy of mine is getting mad thinking that it's hard-coded whenever he pulls out his Smite, a random melee guy spawns behind him xD
What's the best way to do the 50% of monstrosity health in a private game? All shield ogryns tanking it?
He might be right
tell him he won't have that problem, if he doesn't use smite 
You just need one other competent person that helps, it's not difficult
Ah okay
If you don't mind
I don’t mind
I messaged you my friend code
I do mind 
Got it hold a sec
So I was trying the bubble knight concept in havoc a bunch and it wasn’t clicking with me until I moved to the mk8 and then suddenly everything worked and I started doing really well 😂
Anyone in here can tell me what talent tree nodes in psykers tree elicit the most crits with the telecinetic force staff?
I feel like it fucks armor when crit but it feels like a wet noodle when it doesnt
The gamble staff strikes again
Gaze is the only way to get crit from talents
(besides the small 5% crit chance node above kinetic reflection)
And soul drinker I guess
But that's never worth it
So, to put it bluntly, there is nothing much i can do?
Nope
I run gaze and the crit chance node
As well as surge and Nexus on my staff
Alright. What about perks/blessings?
Ah okay noted
Flak + unyielding/crit chance
How do you deal with the peril?
Feels bugged, even though it's supposedly in the code
You didn’t do quickplay by chance? If I do quickplay for auric it puts me in regular damnation story missions.
Also, auric is definitely no harder than before. I am confused by FS’s claims
any1 able to post a assail build for me pls?
it said auric in the mission when i pressed tab
there is no way in hell auric has high intensity by default
I know they did say on update day that that hi int auric missions is bugged
bio lodestone or overpowering souls for brain rupture?
(15% per kill or guaranteed on elite kill)
Guaranteed. Always
figured just wanted to double check real quick
Does anyone have any basic builds for a beginner player? I've been following a Melee one but I am interested in using Assail and Smite a lot!
well you gonna have to choose between the two of those
Ye of course, just using those as guidlines for builds I am interested in :3
if you plan on running either of those, then you might want to bring something else to fill in for single target damage, smite is decent at stunning a single target but its definitely not made for damage
psyker is probably the most versatile class all things considered, you can get away with a lot if you play around with the talent tree
Assail is good with melee psyker
It’s what I use on him but if I’m doing voidblast or inferno I do brain burst
assail is the "oh shit here comes a pack of dogs" kind of blitz
really good at taking out low armor enemies
it can work on the chaff too but you have to stay on top of how much shards you have
So good it doesn’t even need nodes
I did it. I started the campaign. Emptiest damnation of my life.
yeah i am not doing the campaign
personally ive always loved the deimos force sword
I’d highly advise against smite ngl it not what it seems
they had 3 years to add in a story mode
smite is what the lightning staff used to be where it spreads out a bunch and stunlocks enemies mainly
Yeah just watch someone's compilation on youtube.
Aw, I like shocking people for big cc :(
ehhhhh
The inferno staff is just a better smite
the assail is better at actual cc than smite is, smite has a limited amount of targets it can jump to
Burninate the countryside.
It takes you out the equation and really does nothing while nerfing your team
Especially zealots
smite is something you want to bring to stunlock a big fucker for your teammates
Narp
even then there are better options
No need to cc if it dies in like a second
Good to know, sad it is that way since it is fun to use :(
its unfortunate yeah, but its also about as fun to burn the entire room
Sadly yes zealots entire gimmick is relying on dodges for damage and survivability and if the enemies are not attacking they can’t benefit
Same with vet, oggy, and now Arby
Thank you. I was not just shouting into the void
The variable in the code is also burninate, I believe, so the devs are people of culture

