psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, we're just advising on what those pitfalls are

[azure quarry]

but so far I feel like I just keep getting negatives of builds I wanna do

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble is good. Was arguably necessary for most Havoc 40 games before the havoc changes. Still very useful, in the same way that VoC or Zealot's book are useful. But relying on bubble or VoC or book or smite to get you out of every situation will end up hurting you in the long run

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I can do that for any build

[jovial juniper]

I say fuck the others
Smite to your hearts content

[frail escarp]

oh? what changed that it's no longer necessary now? Im coming back from a hiatus, stopped playing after havoc came out 😄

[viscid musk]

i think the point has been sorely missed
be a psyker with smite, not a smyker.
you still have a melee and a ranged weapon not just the blitz

[nocturne dust]

No, you can be a smiteker if you like

[strong gulch]

You can still use smite for oh shit moments. If the team has proven to keep going down or there's a side that's being ignored, then smite.

But holding stuff in place forever that's spread out and or out of position is active detrimental and not fun. Also if you're doing that as the rest of the team is moving on.

Also be prepared for people to not help you because they are so sick of smykers not letting them play the game.

[umbral atlas]

Yeah I just did two matches as gun psyker then greatsword scrier and it was so much better for me

[nocturne dust]

Just, y'know, don't be surprised when you get hate in chat from zealots hopped up on gamer rage 🤣

[viscid musk]

[strong gulch]

There's a lot of assumptions happening when people see smite because of repeated and prolific bad experiences.

[azure quarry]

I'm just not gonna play smite.

[viscid musk]

its kinda the culture that built up

[ripe obsidian]

I'd have to find patch notes for the specifics, but they took away the increased rate of fire for shooters

[strong gulch]

That's why even fellow psykers get all "ew smite".

[viscid musk]

LE SMITE BAD... no i dont care you outdamaged me because you use all your weapons

le smite bad!

[umbral atlas]

Trying to use bubble and smite/inferno just ran counter to how I play Darktide, so I was kind of tailoring my playstyle to my build and not the other way around

[frail escarp]

oh god that sounds great, i hated melting in miliseconds 😄 ty

[nocturne dust]

Every build has problems. Never ask Inferno what it has to use to deal with snipers

[ripe obsidian]

The patch notes do not enlighten me: "Removed the increased shooting time from ranged enemies."

[frail escarp]

haha

ye i can't decipher that

[nocturne dust]

They used to shoot over an extended period of time, meaning sliding through it was much, much harder

[viscid musk]

3 teammates

hopefully

[nocturne dust]

Now they shoot faster

Which is both good and bad

[ripe obsidian]

I know that. I just wanted more details

[umbral atlas]

I would always try to save smite for elite hordes or really cramped situations, but then I'm wasting a lot of nodes for an ability I'm actively avoiding using

[frail escarp]

so how do you avoid using bubble as a crutch? just started on inferno/bubble as well and i like throwing it down for the thoughness regen and just negating fire, vomit boss

[strong gulch]

Maybe I should do smite. I'm bad at it.

[nocturne dust]

You should be able to handle situations without bubble, is the answer

[frail escarp]

so just play with shriek for a while 😄

[nocturne dust]

pretty much

[frail escarp]

ok ty

[nocturne dust]

Basically, you just need to be good enough at dodging and sliding where you won't die to a hail of lasers or a Bonbon's vomit

[jovial juniper]

Just 9 shots in a pico second

[umbral atlas]

If you have toughness regen for both generating and quelling peril then both venting shriek and scrier give more survivability than you think

[jovial juniper]

Nothing to worry about

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/evaporate-emoji-garctic-phone-gif-12745214408129677007

[ripe obsidian]

I'm gonna keep my Havoc bubble. >:(

Gotta keep my team alive and encourage them to move forward.

[nocturne dust]

Never take Warp Expenditure

[frail escarp]

i took bubble mainly bc i want to get into havoc at some point, just spamming maelstroms right now to get into the build

[nocturne dust]

Friendly Reminder, Warp Expenditure is bad

[umbral atlas]

Bubble is probably more useful in havoc, but in damnation I think it baits me too much

[nocturne dust]

Bubble is good, and my fav ability, lol

Let us not speak of wall

[strong gulch]

Positioning is the biggest thing. Figuring our how to close the gap, stop shooters, use terrain / structures, dodge, slide, run perpendicular, etc.

You can also dodge to the side to avoid bonbon puke. It's hard or unwise to do on melees with shit dodges.

[nocturne dust]

You can slide to avoid puke

[umbral atlas]

Not hating on bubble, but I think the others flow better for me

[jovial juniper]

Wall is good

[nocturne dust]

[azure quarry]

At this rate I may just avoid this class. If anything I wanna do is bad or get's me hate then I'll avoid the class entirely.

[umbral atlas]

ESPECIALLY IN THIS GODDAMN FLAMER AND BOMBER NO LIGHTING HELL EVENT

[nocturne dust]

[strong gulch]

I have skill issue. So I too am gonna havoc bubble. Tho I've been known to take EP BB and bubble.

[jovial juniper]

Also no idea if the electrocution buff did something good for wall

[nocturne dust]

All we told you was smite gets hate, lol

[jovial juniper]

💀

[umbral atlas]

Smite is really the only thing that gets hate. It's just a really varied class

[nocturne dust]

You can also get hate from literally any pubber for any reason

so screw 'em

[strong gulch]

It's just smite. You might get hate if you try to do gunker in havocs without a premade.

[umbral atlas]

Like with vet and zealot I use basically the same build and just swap weapons. With psyker I feel like if I change one weapon the entire build needs reworked

[frail escarp]

you can get hate with columnus psyker eating all the ammo 😄

[nocturne dust]

Pubbers were mad a couple days ago when I clutched the twins Even winning is hateable

[frail escarp]

tyty, one thing though, what do you mean by running perpendicular? just making 90 degree turns bc enemies have momentum? or what? first time i hear about this

[ripe obsidian]

There are people who do H40 no-melee or H40 no defensive abilities or H40 duo or whatever else. They are insane, and I fear them.

[nocturne dust]

Easy solution

Don't do Havoc

[ripe obsidian]

No u

[nocturne dust]

Done.

Sold.

[frail escarp]

but i need cool armor, and the modifiers kinda look fun

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc is more fun to me than other game modes, tbh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/monica-rachel-ross-geller-chandler-bing-joey-tribbiani-gif-15049183

[ripe obsidian]

I like the added challenge.

I am just not good enough to do it without some defensive abilities

[umbral atlas]

I have no real desire to go beyond damnation, it's plenty challenging for me

[ripe obsidian]

Either on me or a teammate

[umbral atlas]

and I do like the team play element of this game but I don't want to get to that point where you have to coordinate builds and such

[nocturne dust]

My issue with Havoc is I have nobody to play it with and no interest in suffering through pubs

[ripe obsidian]

I'd play with you.

[nocturne dust]

Free to invite me sometime.

[ripe obsidian]

I can do trauma/purg psyker or book/charge Zealot successfully. Or, I have done them all successfully. I've never taken vet or ogryn into anything over H25 or so.

Can probably do Arbites as well

But I haven't tried yet

[ripe obsidian]

If you have a good team, even of randoms, you don't need to coordinate builds

90% of my H40 wins have been entirely random teammates

[tulip kettle]

i run smite in havoc if im running EK instead of purgatus

its actually good to have a tool to deal with large hordes and smiting them away is basically like killing them when it comes to pox and shit

better than clicking on 100 heads

[umbral atlas]

Yeah, I mean smite can kill it just takes so long that you need to make sure you're hitting enough things at once for it to be a net gain

[tulip kettle]

no i dont kill it with smite

you just throw it all away from you by smiting for 2 secs then regoup

[tulip kettle]

your team will deal with the trash and usually be grateful for it

[ripe obsidian]

Smite is strong. Just boring.

[umbral atlas]

yeah, that's generally what I try to do when I ran it. Turning to direct the stagger closer to the team

or if you can throw the horde into a corner

[tulip kettle]

meanwhile i can do my job of killing anything with a healthbar

but honestly guys, im gonna say it again

the dog is just broken

just by existing in the state its in

in just one 35 run then with 1 arb that dog saved SO MANY backstabs on people

[umbral atlas]

One of the biggest things I noticed going from arbites to psyker is how often I got hit by a random straggler walking up from behind, and when I played arbites and the same thing happened even when I heard the attack cue by the time I turned to kill it the dog had already taken it down

[tulip kettle]

watching the zealot about to eat a silent crusher overhead and the dog just auto pounces it from miles away

yup this is the thing

[tulip kettle]

its the thing that people arent fully appreciating i think

[umbral atlas]

and as psyker, even a poxwalker will take like 3/4 of your toughness

[tulip kettle]

go in with 4 dogs and it just means you dont have to care about the stragglers

at all

[umbral atlas]

the first game I did as arbites was silly, four dogs on the lowest difficulty I think means you don't even need to play

[tulip kettle]

just playing a few havocs tonight, every game im playing as psyker feels MUCH easier with a dog

2 dogs better

[umbral atlas]

Well from my PUG experiences the other night, the dog will do a better job at helping you than the arbites player

[ripe obsidian]

What about Three Dog? Coming at you live from the Capital Wasteland?

[tulip kettle]

also, if i dont have full toughness on psyker 1 pox heavy swing takes half my hp

[tulip kettle]

awoooo

[umbral atlas]

I think I look cooler without the hood, even if I paid money for that fancy rag

[tulip kettle]

but what if bird mask

[umbral atlas]

the hardest thing about psyker is just getting punished for your own mistakes

[umbral atlas]

bird masks are kino

[tulip kettle]

ew

that is some eldritch abomination shit

[umbral atlas]

oh my god I just realized I want a plague doctor set for psyker

[ripe obsidian]

Good.

[tulip kettle]

fix yo weave

[ripe obsidian]

The awful haircut makes it better

[umbral atlas]

"I swear it's not a Tzeentch thing"

[tulip kettle]

like furry dog ears

now THAT, in white with black trim, i would wear

[ripe obsidian]

I picked it because it's the dumbest hat I could find

[umbral atlas]

he looks like he's piping in some hardcore trucker stims in that mask

he's sharing with masozi

[vestal trench]

is the push attack on the force sword just push -> gigapush

or are they the same push strength?

[marble crater]

Yes

[vestal trench]

gotcha

[tulip kettle]

no the second blop is stronger

throws people around

has a longer range

[marble crater]

But that's what they said

[umbral atlas]

Okay that's another thing I fucked up for two days straight- I thought the push attack on the force sword was weirdly weaker than I remembered, and didn't realize I was supposed to HOLD IT until like, an hour ago

[tulip kettle]

indeed

but they said or

[umbral atlas]

the second bop is like a mini shriek

[strong gulch]

It's in the advanced training. Sliding, running, or dodging to the side or at angle can make the difference between being shot to death vs still having some toughness.

[umbral atlas]

like how EM staff is a mini brainburst

[marble crater]

Don't push attack bursters if you have kinetic flayer, by the way

[umbral atlas]

it seems like psyker is designed so all its abilities have a weapon surrogate

[tulip kettle]

kinda

the laspistol also has funny force push

[strong gulch]

Don't do it when KF if off cooldown

[tulip kettle]

so its fine to do it all the time then.

[marble crater]

Also, I will play psyker now to have a lobby without 4 arbies

[strong gulch]

If the buff bar is doing it's job that is

[tulip kettle]

it feels good playing psyker with dogs honestly

enjoying it a lot

honestly sad to be an ogyn right now i feel

[ripe obsidian]

It's Tertium Roulette

[marble crater]

Watch me get a match without a single arby now...

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-the-dice-december-holidays-national-dice-day-be-bold-dice-gif-6876232205697280398

[umbral atlas]

QP is all arbites

[ripe obsidian]

Arby feels somewhere between Ogryn and Zealot. Not sure which it steps on more

[umbral atlas]

level 30 damnation was safe for a day but since then there's gonna be at least one, usually two there, and everything below 30 is 100% lex

[marble crater]

3 arbies, faith restored

[strong gulch]

Think it depends on how you build it

My arby is feeling pretty zealot but somehow not.

[umbral atlas]

I think Arbites is kind of an easier ogryn

[tulip kettle]

i feel like im playing an agile ogryn with a dog and better guns

[umbral atlas]

it does a lot of the stuff zealot does, but zealot does it by being fast so it doesn't feel like it's toes are being stepped on

[tulip kettle]

also tanking gunners with arby shield is nuts

[marble crater]

I feel like I'm playing a giga bully

[strong gulch]

Arby is the only oggy that a psyker wall can actually provide cover for.

[upper sun]

other way round

[umbral atlas]

whereas arbites kinda does feel like 'easier ogryn' in some ways

[tulip kettle]

i have +3 stam curio and 1 12% block efficiency node

[upper sun]

shield doesnt have combos

just H1

[tulip kettle]

and i just stand there for days

lol

L1 L2 push is also very good

[umbral atlas]

wait I said that twice, sorry the edibles are kicking in lol

[upper sun]

does yout toungue feel good in your mouth?

[tulip kettle]

people saying power output is dump but i havent done the math on it

seems wrong to me

usually a weapon with defenses and CC will have one of them as the dump

[umbral atlas]

That was one thing that annoyed me, having the horde clear combo only start from neutral so you can't loop into it or push attack or anything, you just have to do a full block cancel to switch

[tulip kettle]

but i get +75% cleave from pushing

and have a million stamina

[umbral atlas]

I would describe it as sturdy?

[tulip kettle]

and do like 100% bonus dmg to staggered

[ripe obsidian]

Right-side keystone seems the best of the three.

[umbral atlas]

it is a reliable arbites-like presence

[tulip kettle]

so light light push combo feels good

push attack heavy light is also very good vs crushers

[umbral atlas]

I dipped into the left side for some dog buffs but other than that all right side crowd control

[gray juniper]

Bubble knight goes hard af. But it makes me sad because it’s the anti magic build

[umbral atlas]

very fun

[upper sun]

@plucky flax found ur boss

[gray juniper]

Chaos is one smart feller coming up with this

[plucky flax]

monka

[umbral atlas]

POV of "Unsanctioned Psyker" when the DLC dropped

[gray juniper]

Twitter after dark moment

[ornate hamlet]

Any friendly beginner builds for psyker?

[plucky flax]

Is that the real unsanctioned on your friend list?

[strong gulch]

I'd say the inferno build in the pins is the most beginner friendly. Shriek in non havoc is better, but bubble is good. This assumes level 30.

If you're sub 30, assail is your main weapon. Staves are poop with low stats and little talents.

[umbral atlas]

For leveling I'd say just follow a gun psyker build since you won't even have all the staffs unlocked

but also just take what looks like fun to test out

it's not like there any point in actually committing to any weapons yet

[blissful pulsar]

Any of the weapon changes fun to try on psyker? I'd have to actually resource dump rank up any weapon I try so unsure what to try first

Leaning towards shotguns for a gaze build

Also god I love the new psyker drip. Never spent money on this game's cosmetics till now t/t

[ornate hamlet]

I am lv 2,i played vet for 60h ,now moving on to psyker

[upper sun]

no copycat

[plucky flax]

Damn faker.

Report him.

[ripe obsidian]

You're likely not the only one. The psyker outfit is great

[blissful pulsar]

My one helmet I got with purchase aquilas near release fits so well with it

[upper sun]

too important for helmets!!!

[vestal trench]

is the whole "swap off purgatus if theres another purgatus psyker" thing an actual deal to consider with this class or is it more of a meme? is this why gun psyker's the agenda? lol

[upper sun]

its gun psyker agenda

more fire faster stacks

[ripe obsidian]

@summer prairie in the psykhanium at least, Kill Order does increase doggo shockbite damage.

It does not affect bleedpounce

105 -> 153

[plucky flax]

It'll work but inefficient

[vestal trench]

i'm assuming the other 3 staves are a bit more flexible and can fit into most comps then?

[strong gulch]

If you want to purg with another purg then do it.

BUT it is true that it's more efficient for there to be 1 purg vs 2. Purg can only maintain 15 SB stacks and a 2nd purg doesn't change that. Whoever gets the 1st application also gets credit for all of the SB damage applied to that target.

[vestal trench]

thanks

[dense mulch]

im looking for a group to do this private match penance with, anyone up?

[umbral atlas]

psyker feels like it has a lot more conditional things like that which is why it's got so many builds

zealot to me feels more like, I never have to play any weapons but whichever ones I feel like because they'll always be useful in every scenario

[ripe obsidian]

The dog Razor-Jaw bleed feels inconsistent and not very impactful. Hm.

[peak canyon]

yo partypeople... im kinda "new" to the game got around 60 hours, i started as a OGRYN and unlocked auric yesterday and did GOOD with him, barely died.

now i wanted to try another class, i leveld a PSYKER to 30 and tried like 5 or more differnet builds
but all of them dont make me any close to happy. im DYING in T4 like im a fkng ant they step on..

ogryn made me addicted to this game and psyker kills it for me, im almost in a uninstall mood.

IS THERE ANY "BEGINNERFRIENDLY" PSYKER BUILD WHICH IS HARD TO KILL?? Q_Q

i tried the most recent most liked GANDALF melee psyker build which feels better then the caster variants.

but at the end ofthe mission i did nothing thanks to scoreboard.

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker is squishy. For hardest to kill, do... probably Voidblast, since it can knock enemies away from you.

But Psyker has a harder time regenerating toughness than any other class, so mistakes are punished harder

[marble crater]

Just don't get hit, smh

[peak canyon]

ye thats the thing 😦 i spammed my dagger on ogryn and leeched 5000000 toughness per sec, psyker = meh

[ripe obsidian]

If you like meleeker, this is a good build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lfy8G_Xv0Q

[marble crater]

Psyker bad, please buff

[peak canyon]

facts

[strong gulch]

No psyker build is gonna be hard to kill. The most beginner friendly is probably inferno or EK staff builds in the pins.

Psyker can generate a lot of toughness but most of it is on kill or attack. What psyker lacks is TDR.

Melee puts you closer to danger and has less CC than staff builds.

That being said, you just might not like psyker. That ok.

[peak canyon]

looks good, gonna give this build a last try before i throw my pskyer away. finaly a build with a automatic machine gun!

[ripe obsidian]

I always forget TDR is a thing. Thank you, oh Potato the Wise.

[analog agate]

Melee psyker, is like, the most beginner unfriendly lol

[strong gulch]

ye

but if you don't like staves gunker and melee is it

[nocturne dust]

Arby and Oggie generate so much now, Psyker might have lost their generation crown

[hollow current]

Psyker can still generate on demand at least tho

[nocturne dust]

Weeeeelllll

Yes, but so can Arby

[marble crater]

Buff psyker

[hollow current]

with the ults ye but peril quelling is still my cope

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-white-snow-white-classic-movie-classic-movie-snow-white-blanche-neige-gif-12194801923180020688

[nocturne dust]

Arby regens by expending stamina

Abilities irrelevant

[hollow current]

oh fug they generate so much toughness i forgot about that one

[nocturne dust]

Lol

[strong gulch]

arbilities

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-rubbish-filth-lies-gif-11786486

https://tenor.com/view/boooooo-booo-boo-princess-bride-gif-5142114

[marble crater]

Out of 3 missions I had rolling steel twice, that's more than the last 6 months combined

[upper sun]

same

GIVE ME MY AURIC CLEARANCE

its been 3 weeks since arbites came out

[peak canyon]

220 tougnhness on psyker, i love it

[marble crater]

Uh, no

Someone has been playing too much Mass Effect

[peak canyon]

hes living in a timelapse XD?

[marble crater]

Anything is possible

[deft stump]

I just found out 1 dog bomb with Bistol on auric can kill maulers. Is a waiting game though.

I guess you have doggo pounce on them so brittleness will make it faster.

[marble crater]

Is arby your new favorite class now?

[strong gulch]

no

Might level a psyker tbh

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Level and do the campaign.

[marble crater]

Maybe the need to unlock higher difficulties was put in because of you, so you stop making psykers

[umbral atlas]

I will actually advocate for melee psyker with force weapons since it does teach you the basics of psyker survival

dodging and peril management

[marble crater]

If you can melee with psyker, you can melee with all classes, true

[umbral atlas]

and once you can melee with psyker you can try out all the other things more effectively

[ripe obsidian]

TIL dog pounce doesn't stack Forceful unless you have shockbite

[marble crater]

I really need to read all the Arby talents so I understand what people are talking about

[ripe obsidian]

Right-side keystone

Up to 10 stacks on staggering enemies/blocking attacks

Dog stacks if you have the talent that makes it shock enemies it bites, but otherwise does not

[marble crater]

obese fish

[deft stump]

Is more, I'm doing the 100 games thing. I did it for Oggy as well, so. But yeah, is like the easiest class to play at 400 ping.

[deft stump]

Because "shock" is a stagger somehow.

Cos even if I'm lagging to hell, the dog isn't, so it can still do things. Trappers suck still, but that's just 300-400 ping things.

[ripe obsidian]

I can't get all the toughness talents I want on my Barktide build, so I must use confident strike on the maul

[deft stump]

HAMMAHBLOW AND HIGH SHOCKAGE.

Bullying crushers with light spam? Yes.

[ripe obsidian]

I can do that without hammerblow

[deft stump]

But Hammahblow makes it even easier.

Also, bullying hordes of crushers with the push L1 l2, push l1 l2 is funni.

I did take the 75% cleave node on push though so...

[ripe obsidian]

This is my current Barktide build. Still tweaking things.

I was using the bleed bite node, but it doesn't seem to work properly

[gray juniper]

Slamming on bubble knight then this newbie psyker joins and is spamming smite everywhere. All my kills are going to him by the mechanic and it’s just like
“Musashi killed…
Musashi killed…
Musashi killed…
Musashi killed…”

[strong gulch]

lmao

[gray juniper]

I’m trying to run away from everyone to get the DD perk going. He’s chasing me everywhere to stay alive lmaooo

[strong gulch]

Them being Musashi is even funnier.

[gray juniper]

Yes

[strong gulch]

This is my favorite thing today.

I'm sorry you're suffing.

[gray juniper]

Ngl it was funny. Just finishing story on moderate difficulty heresy or dam

[ripe obsidian]

People in the Arbites chat telling me that Razor-Jaw doesn't bleed the enemy you pounce on.

It's like 50/50 whether or not they bleed. There's no consistency

[gray juniper]

Considering a dog build just to see how it plays out

That looks no faster than my default dog tbh @ripe obsidian

[ripe obsidian]

What do you mean faster?

As in killtime? That's not what my issue is

It's that the bleed stacks only happen like half the time. The red '8' over its head means it's bleeding, since I have a mod for that

But I have a longer clip of some enemies bleeding and some not. It's super inconsistent

Here. First guy bleeds, second doesn't

[deft stump]

It only works if you are pinned by a dog.

[ripe obsidian]

I have posted videos

It doesn't always work

[deft stump]

Any bleed happening is usually the dog bomb thing.

[ripe obsidian]

And a playtester told me the pinned enemy doesn't bleed, only the enemies around it. >:(

There's a lot of misinformation, it seems

[strong gulch]

Something I notice is if the dog has to knock over other enemies to get to the marked target, then the marked target seems to more consistently bleed. Seems to be less consistent on targets that can't be knocked over like ogryns.

[ripe obsidian]

How aggravating

[strong gulch]

BUT my sample size is not huge and random can have pockets of something acting a particular way repeatedly.

SO idk

[upper sun]

for refrence high intensity damnation 1.7k enemies

anyone did any auric hab dreyko recently?

[strong gulch]

I could just be random. There could be some kind of hit mass thing. It could be that if that is the target isn't the first hit, there's a higher chance of bleed. idk

[analog agate]

I kinda like the roman centurion helmet more than deluxe one

[strong gulch]

Sometimes none of enemies that get knocked over don't get bleed.

[strong gulch]

not yet

[exotic tulip]

Does the 5% crit chance on warp fire death/kill work like the 10% warp charge from warp fire effected enemy death?

Or does it have to be specifically the DoT killing them

[strong gulch]

Yes and no.

It works when they die by SB DoT, but it inconsistently works when the death is not by SB DoT. There is significant amount of time where non SB kills won't trigger souldrinker. The code is the same for both souldrinker and in fire reborn (IFR), but IFR has not been thoroughly tested for the consistency issue.

[nocturne dust]

I'm still stuck in dam 😭

[strong gulch]

I need to play to get our of damnation but I haven't played today.

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know either. But it's inconsistent in real games and the Psykhanium, so

Kuli is saying the green area is where the bleed is supposed to take effect:

Which doesn't explain how it impacts the target itself

[nocturne dust]

well that's stupid

It's like putting a soulblaze node on the opposite side of the soulblaze part of the tree

Good thing Fatshark would never

[tidal violet]

Does surge trigger on voidstrike secondary? Getting varying results

[nocturne dust]

yes

You have to crit

See pins for voidstrike build with surge

[tidal violet]

Cool, thanks. That's what I thought but something seemed off. Happy with my build but I'll take a look

[fierce crest]

idk if anyone else cares but i made a chart of all the unique staff models since they overlap in weird ways compared to most weapons and was curious to what extent

[gray juniper]

Sometimes it’s like the dog does more damage jumping through something than the target itself also

[gray juniper]

Question on malefic momentum. Regular force sword kills count as non-warp attack, yes?

[analog agate]

Yes

[tulip kettle]

auric mortis trials is where its at

actually just lost one

we got triple demonhosted on the last round

[gray juniper]

Wew lad

[ripe obsidian]

I have finished the dang story campaign. I can play havoc on Arby now.

[tulip kettle]

lol good luck not gettin gatekept

oh a clearance 37 with true survivor and a lvl 60 arb? NOT IN MY 40 LOBBY I TELLS YA

[ripe obsidian]

I'm gonna bully people in here into playing with me. Like @nocturne dust

[nocturne dust]

right now?

[ripe obsidian]

Whenever

I have nowhere to be tonight

[nocturne dust]

I can do some runs in 10-20 mins

[ripe obsidian]

Take your time

If anyone else wants to do Havoc, we'd be doing 30+

[nocturne dust]

Logging in now

[vestal trench]

gaze or shriek for assail when leveling?

[ripe obsidian]

One moment. Was taking the trash to the curb

[jovial juniper]

Shriek

[vestal trench]

not sure if this is going fine but lmao

[strong gulch]

You'll get more toughness if you drop BM (battle mediation) and take soulstealer on the top left.

[vestal trench]

even on assail? huh

[strong gulch]

Ye

[vestal trench]

thanks!

[potent echo]

Swimming is back in monster hunter

[ripe obsidian]

An inauspicious start

[nocturne dust]

That double bomber drop behind and in front of me was a real killer 😭

[ripe obsidian]

I am not sure why I can't do this

[nocturne dust]

[ripe obsidian]

But yeah, the bomber got me

On the upside, my build is performing well.

[jovial juniper]

Something something

Clear your filters

[ripe obsidian]

An inauspcious second game.

[nocturne dust]

Been playing Arby too much mayhaps

[gray juniper]

The game is too choppy lately. It’s hard to get a read on toughness and damage intake from what’s going on. On the drug factory mission everything is fine then in under half a second the walkers pouring out the wall tube I’m downed. They didn’t even stand up yet. No time to even swing the sword and all just because proximity to them

[pine shore]

skill issue

[ripe obsidian]

Only H29, buuuut

This build is pretty good

[gray juniper]

Guess I’ll be a noob try hard forever

[pine shore]

nah

You will eventually get to godhood status

[nocturne dust]

I was running rending trauma so that might skew things a tad

[pine shore]

Skill issue is not forever

[ripe obsidian]

It helped. You also had to deal with Pus-hardened Skin for your damage

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, was tempted to swap to oggie, lol. Psyker is not ideal in an anti-stagger, anti-ranged havoc

[ripe obsidian]

It is true

[nocturne dust]

Would swap to arbie but he's not even 30 yet despite +xp curios

[strong gulch]

Y'all did havocs?? How did it go. I see big number

[nocturne dust]

We did not move in rank at least

Pubbies were as expected, though I think one was lagging worse than I do, lol

[sturdy reef]

who wants some havok runs

I got a 39 rn

[ripe obsidian]

I want to run havoc, but I am gonna be afk for like 20 more minutes probably

[ripe obsidian]

I'd be fine with grinding levels if you prefer that

[nocturne dust]

Nah, I can do that on my own time

[ripe obsidian]

I am pleased with my Arby performance

[strong gulch]

noice

[sturdy reef]

arby performs well

the boss dps build is actually very nice

[deft stump]

I play H40 at sub 30 fps in fights. You'll get used to it lul.

[ripe obsidian]

I was not built for boss damage and still did some significant bonkery

[gray juniper]

This one was straight bullshit though and I’m perturbed

[deft stump]

Eh? Not BS in my case. I'm legit used to pingponging FPS and such.

Also more IRL boof.

[ripe obsidian]

A fine hound

[potent echo]

They are so

[deft stump]

Also why ingame puppo named Carrot.

[ripe obsidian]

I am returnèd @nocturne dust, and @strong gulch @sturdy reef if you wanted to play

[strong gulch]

I can play after a mission in the duo I'm in.

[ripe obsidian]

Shall we wait for you, or are you gonna be a while?

[strong gulch]

starting that mission now. prob 25 minutes. so play one

[ripe obsidian]

Gotcha

[sturdy reef]

in match rn

srry

will let u kn ow

[spare comet]

i just started a psyker

is assail still obscenely powerful like it used to be

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is solid. Not OP.

[spare comet]

a few years ago it was nuts

thats all i recall of psyker then though

this is my first time playing around with it

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is your best tool as a pre-30 psyker

No one wants to play havoc with us. We are pariahs. Even the people I've hit "accept" on don't join. =|

[strong gulch]

done

[sturdy reef]

almost done

done

[thorny trail]

Whats a easy way to get teh warp batter penance for 120s full warp charges?

I can't get it no matter how hard i try

[jovial juniper]

Inferno staff

In Fire Reborn Talent

Highest difficulty you can beat

Alternatively

4 Psykers with In Fire Reborn

[thorny trail]

I'll try it

Something keeps happening and messing things up

[deft stump]

Also, avoid maps with lifts and waits.

[thorny trail]

This is one of the things that's been ruining it

[deft stump]

You have to learn maps for that since I barely remember. I did it in low havocs as a duo from memory.

Easy enough to guarantee kills to fuel it, and you get more spawn.

[thorny trail]

It's funny. It seemed like it was a non issue when i wasn't trying to do it

when i had the six stack talent. maybe that messed it up since that's more to stack

[vestal trench]

when should i use the special on deimos instead of the stab combo? carapace targets?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597

[vestal trench]

LOL gotcha

whats the horde clear combo?

[pine shore]

It was never OP. It's main problem was it had really low cooldown so you could basically beat entire heresy mission without using anything but assail. So they nerfed it's damage like twice which didn't change anything at all and then they finally nerfed it's cooldown so now you need to use other shit.

So it's still about the same, but the enemies got more health and there are more of them

[jovial juniper]

I mean
The Deimos/Obscurus special is useless 99% of the time
That 1% is to insta stack Uncanny Strike

And the horde clear is either light spam

[pine shore]

I remember I used executioner on deimos

It seemed like such an obvious sunergy at the time

[jovial juniper]

Or H1 L2

[vestal trench]

does deimos' easy access to back to back stabbing put it over obscurus?

[potent echo]

That 1% is everything

[vestal trench]

thanks

[jovial juniper]

Not really

[pine shore]

I think obscurus actually does more damage now

[jovial juniper]

Obscurus H1 L2 L3 goes crazy against single targets

[pine shore]

But it's not nearly as easy to use

[vestal trench]

oh huh, i'll play around

[spare comet]

ah that explains a lot

i was never a psyker player until now lol

[vestal trench]

whats the combo for obscurus horde then?

[pine shore]

purgatus

[vestal trench]

lmfao

[jovial juniper]

Sorry I will not remember

They gave it a horde clearing combo recently

And I haven't mastered it yet

There's like a secret attack somewhere

[pine shore]

I don't remember, I barely played with obscurus

And now I'm busy with arbites

[thorny trail]

i need a solo map for this

[pine shore]

True

[thorny trail]

especially with people trolling when you ask to chill on the elite kills

[pine shore]

What if there was a certain map with enemies standing with player being invisible to them so you can test all your weapons and combos

A certain place to grind heretics

Like a meat grinder of sorts

[summer prairie]

Are you sure that wasn't the +25% DMG from the charge itself

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[thorny trail]

lfg it is

[molten umbra]

thats not a psyker

[mellow gorge]

no, but i found it while palying pysker, and it amused me

[molten umbra]

lol

fair enough

does anyone have a good scriers gaze build, specifically one that uses the duelling sword

[ripe obsidian]

Fairly. But I can test again

[mellow gorge]

slumming it in heresy as there are so many players there

[nocturne dust]

@strong gulch ggs for when you get back

[ripe obsidian]

The bonkening continues!

I do not regret keeping the dog with me

[nocturne dust]

What build were you running on the talent tree?

[strong gulch]

gg and same

[strong gulch]

Dog helped!

[ripe obsidian]

Though I am still poking it a bit to figure out what feels best

[strong gulch]

[ripe obsidian]

The talent at the very top on the left is kinda a flex node right now

[ripe obsidian]

I appear to be mistaken. Oops.

[strong gulch]

what weapons? arby maul and i forgor

[ripe obsidian]

Right now that last point is in +10% damage/speed on elite/specialist kill. Also thinking about the flat +10% melee damage, which would have more uptime, or the +2% crit 8x on hit

[ripe obsidian]

I ended up putting stam regen on 2 of my curios. It helps a lot.

[strong gulch]

right i forgot arby shotgun has different mks.

Why wouldn't I check that??

I swear I can't transfer brains over to new things.

[deft stump]

Psyker delay and zealot regen? Was that their baseline?

[strong gulch]

rude

[ripe obsidian]

The issue is that I use push attacks constantly

[deft stump]

Because I can break even sprint sliding on my bistol.

[ripe obsidian]

So push+block+sprint was resulting in Bad Times

Push attack = +75% cleave and best horde clear combo for Arby maul

And also toughness regen

[deft stump]

And my push light 1 light 2 push light 1 light 2 nonsense is inf.

Sprinting non-stop was the only stam drain.

I use maul and shield even.

Yes, have the push for cleave node.

[ripe obsidian]

Just accounting for the combo, I come out slightly ahead without the curios

But if I block anything, interrupt my combo, dodge, etc.

I end up behind

Since dodging kills stam regen

[deft stump]

I dunno, I spam dodge doing that and usually still have stam.

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not sure what to say. I was running out a lot.

[deft stump]

As said, unless I'm sprinting non-stop or trying a risky pickup, stam is fine. I run hp even, lul.

Or toughness, just testing.

[ripe obsidian]

I need to figure out where to put the last point. It's 29/30 atm. I'm between:

• +10% damage/movespeed on elite/special kill
• +10% melee damage
• +20% coherency TDR and 2%/s toughness regen on killing pounced enemy
• +2% crit chance on kill, stacking 8 times

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe I am just bad. D:

[deft stump]

Or take stam on kill.

Flees.

[pale plover]

What's the current best staff for Psyker?

[deft stump]

I run a dumb build so dunno.

[ripe obsidian]

Depends on what you're doing. Inferno, VoidBLAST, and EK are all good.

[nocturne dust]

Inferno or Voidblast

[pale plover]

Is blast the ground one?

[nocturne dust]

Inferno for damage, Voidblast for safety

[nocturne dust]

yes

[pale plover]

I remember back in the day that one was considered the worst I'm glad it's better

What is the dump stat for it? I been running blaze force greatsword and EK staff for a while but been kinda wanting to switch things up

Switched to scier's gaze from venting shout

And from mindburst to assail

My EK staff has warp resistance dumped

Same with the sword cuz I tried to get talents that give damage based on high peril

[nocturne dust]

see 2nd pin

[strong gulch]

what about even more cleave

[ripe obsidian]

I could do that, yes

+25% more cleave

[strong gulch]

Though, arby maul is slightly slow.

[nocturne dust]

keystone gives attack speed

[strong gulch]

movement speed?

[nocturne dust]

oh, not that speed

[strong gulch]

gotcha

[nocturne dust]

Hasn't felt slow to me

but then, I use FGS and staves sooooo

[strong gulch]

No escape might be good, but could also just get used to it

[strong gulch]

They don't transfer over in my head for some reason.

I picked cleave for now. Flat and unconditional.

[ripe obsidian]

I've found the Arby mau's attack speed to be quite good with this build

Even better if you have Lone Wolf, but then you give up doggo

[summer prairie]

High Voltage and Execution buff voltaic mandibles damage

might buff other dog damage too

[pale plover]

Is there a pic of a good Scier's gaze build when using force great sword?

And like, what ranged weapon would be best with that. Staff preferred but not required

[vestal trench]

where can i get updated info on blessings/perks?

[plucky flax]

Crit chance or the very first left node.

[nocturne dust]

Kuki's steam guides are good

[plucky flax]

I think that's damge on elite/special kill

[ripe obsidian]

It is. But why get 10% damage on kill as opposed to 10% damage on melee all the time?

[nocturne dust]

But they largely just explain what each blessing is

[ripe obsidian]

And crit chance is a 4% damage increase overall

[plucky flax]

10% damage is range as well.

The other one is just melee.

[nocturne dust]

If you want, like, a tierlist... Idk, ask I guess

[vestal trench]

yeah i was looking for what to run

obscurus/deimos, got lucky and got a good roll for it \o/

[nocturne dust]

Depends on your weapon

[nocturne dust]

Generally, I run flak and maniac with uncanny and slaughterer

[vestal trench]

i also got one for voidblast but ig im not gonna touch that till lvl 30

[nocturne dust]

You can replace slaughterer with deflector if you're using it as a sidearm for a staff build

[strong gulch]

Here is a standard skeleton of your average gunker / melee build with some points to play with.

BCoB, Warp Speed, and anticipation are nice with FGS. PC is always a good pick.

Vraks 5, recon lasgun, laspitol, bistol, and fan revolver are all good.

Right side is not super staff friendly. Can be shoehorned in.

[vestal trench]

warp resistance 3 lmao

[plucky flax]

Or drop something and get crit chance + the headshot strength talent below it.

[vestal trench]

thanks!

[plucky flax]

That one is good for bosses.

[ripe obsidian]

I do not know what I would drop. D:

[nocturne dust]

I never weakspot so I won't

I don't even take the dodge node either

[plucky flax]

Tru if you don't headshot then it's useless.

[nocturne dust]

This is what I was planning for my 'dog is cool, but not that cool'

[plucky flax]

Body shot is op

[summer prairie]

no respite also massively buffs voltaic mandibles damage, but running around with your ranged drawn all the time isn't good

[strong gulch]

dick shots consistent

I alway drift low

[plucky flax]

Playing psyker kinda suck into red and pus.

[pale plover]

TY will take a closer look when out of my mission

[nocturne dust]

Lore-Accurate Arbites

[plucky flax]

When all the arbies running around and I'm here with no yellow toughness bubble getting shredded in 5s because of red reapers.

[deft stump]

Naw, just how I play.

Crotch shots all the time.

[ripe obsidian]

I'll probably just stick with the +10% damage/movespeed on elite/special kill because I cannot make decisions

[nocturne dust]

I forgot to run gunner resistance on curio and lost 90% of my HP in 0.3 seconds 💀

[plucky flax]

With gunner resistance you can last 0.4s worth it I guess.

[strong gulch]

I forgot how much puss hardened sucks. I stubbornly wanted something to die with BB. Really should have given up after 4 BBs.

[deft stump]

Carry my zealot through 40, yes?

[plucky flax]

If you stop flaming me maybe.

[wraith sphinx]

Hi chat

[nocturne dust]

Stop being flammable

or inflammable

[deft stump]

Hi, I do that as well. Giff brrrrrrrrr and it'll somehow go down instead of up. Need to focus to hit heds.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-nick-simpsons-flammable-inflammable-gif-10204097

[strong gulch]

that's a decision

also roll a die

[sturdy reef]

I thought about that one, but its only 4 seconds

if it was 6-8 seconds I would consider it

[plucky flax]

What shield is better?

[nocturne dust]

shotpistol and shield

[plucky flax]

6 or 11?

[sturdy reef]

the melee?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I'm struggling to decide. I don't love any of them, but they're all good nodes. And I can't find anything I want to drop to get the weakspot node

[sturdy reef]

the weakspot node

will have more uptime

[wraith sphinx]

I like both shields but uhh I didn't use either much

[sturdy reef]

drop that mov/dmg node

[nocturne dust]

Wouldn't know about the melee shields

[sturdy reef]

the melee shields are good

[wraith sphinx]

Other weapons are more interesting

[sturdy reef]

one mark is pretty awkward though

forgot which

[nocturne dust]

If it ain't light/heavy spam, 0/10, can't use

[ripe obsidian]

I would need to drop something else to get the weakspot node. I need 2 points to reach it, only have 1

[deft stump]

I like the horde clear one more. Push light light push light light.

[sturdy reef]

show build

[plucky flax]

Hmm the shield bash is like single target?

[sturdy reef]

this is what Ive been running for H40's in addition to my boss build:

[sturdy reef]

drop electro on dog tbh

[wraith sphinx]

I haven't tried out right keystone yet

[ripe obsidian]

Electro on dog does a ton of damage

[sturdy reef]

its single target

ik it does, I run it on my boss build

but its still single target

[deft stump]

You want with forceful.

[wraith sphinx]

I like terminus warrant but I also kinda forget it exists when I'm ingame

[deft stump]

It feeds into it.

[sturdy reef]

you can stack forceful just fine

without it

[nocturne dust]

I mean, so are weakspots on anything that matters

[deft stump]

Basically keeps it topped up for free so always maxxed.

[sturdy reef]

arbites has enough cleave to hit multiple weakspots per swing

[deft stump]

You want the aspd only. I like bullying crusher hordes with light spam.

[nocturne dust]

On what?

[sturdy reef]

the maul

taxe

[deft stump]

Cleave is just a bonus.

[sturdy reef]

rashad

[nocturne dust]

enemies, not weapons

[deft stump]

Though it comes in handy bashing hordes.

[nocturne dust]

cuz, like, weakspotting on horde ain't gonna matter

they'll be dead

[sturdy reef]

hordes are for stacking

elites are for killing

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmm, I'm too lazy to do breakpoint math

[deft stump]

Too lazy, run high voltage and hammahblow.

Just bonk everything.

Brain happy.

[nocturne dust]

I run confident strike currently

over hammerblow

[sturdy reef]

I find arbeetus has enough toughness regen so I havent really wanted conf strike

[deft stump]

I bully crusher hordes into not overheading me.

Is gud.

[nocturne dust]

Came in clutch for twins

[sturdy reef]

bully em with nuncio

[deft stump]

I did hard mode twins like less than 25 damage taken.

I dunno.

400 ping hard mode twins.

[sturdy reef]

ew

[nocturne dust]

was level... 15 or something

it was heresy twins for the campaign

[deft stump]

Oh, that one was even funnier.

[nocturne dust]

but charge is fun

[sturdy reef]

Im a fan of twins in the campaign

Ik charge is good

but its my least fav of the abilities

tbh

[deft stump]

4 Arbites bullying the heck out of the twins on heresy at 14-16.

The hard mode was later cos ppl joined and we got it on quickplay.

[nocturne dust]

Bro, my run they all died and I had to pick up the slack 💀

[deft stump]

Just full memed.

[deft stump]

I have that. With both nodes.

[nocturne dust]

the rest of the squad died... twice during that run, not including all the times I had to pick them up during it too 😭

Spent more time reviving than doing damage

[strong gulch]

worrisome for when I do it

[deft stump]

I swap between that and the +10% atk speed on hitting 3 or more enemies.

Can't decide which is better.

[nocturne dust]

I can't see crap in lights out btw

Ogryn attack speed too strong, no time to react

[strong gulch]

It was so hard to see.

so sadge

I was terrified to purg for light because of barrels

[nocturne dust]

Also, this was funny

Just chilling in me net

[strong gulch]

They were like, "Nah he's good. We don't have to do anything else."

Honestly can believe they left you alone. No flamer just ending it.

[nocturne dust]

"So... what do we do now?"
"Y'know, I didn't think we'd get this far."

Also, obligatory moment of lag

[plucky flax]

Arby tree is too hard.

Too many damage node

[strong gulch]

real. I share your lag infection now

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark is learning. No Unlucky for Some this time

[strong gulch]

perilous assault

[nocturne dust]

Also this was neat. I forgot I didn't have this penance.

[plucky flax]

Dunno because it's new so ppl still figuring out but yeah I'm changing my tree everyday trying to test stuff.

Or it's actual good design with meaningful choices

[nocturne dust]

It's at least better design

[plucky flax]

Kinda sucks the dog behaviour is weird in solo/meatgrinder.

It doesn't auto attack.

[deft stump]

Inferno is just lights out but not completely blind.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I like Inferno

actual ambience

instead of just a crappy blindfold

[deft stump]

I don't... 50 billion bombers in the dark.

I can see shit half the time already.

[nocturne dust]

This is why I spam tag

[deft stump]

There's only so much Carrot can do.

[nocturne dust]

No, the tag is for me, not the dog

[strong gulch]

I spam tag anyways.

Silent invisible mauler overheaded me

[deft stump]

Funny thing is, that happened to someone... Just silent invisible crusher.

I could barely see it.

I had to drop down, Nuncio and bonk the crusher before picking them up.

[plucky flax]

I like the dual keystone tree mechanic actually. They should rework all classes to have this

[sturdy reef]

can psykers make BB good

[potent echo]

Yes

We can make it better again

[pale plover]

Alright did this plus the reccomended talents you put in, with a recon lasgun with mobility as the dump stat with flak+crit hit chance and infernus and dumdum

And blaze great sword

[strong gulch]

Sounds good. If you want a slight improvement, dump collateral on recon. Gun can be for when you need more movement speed when FGS is too slow.

Hope it all plays well for you.

[pale plover]

Thank ya and noted

What do you wanna dump on voidblast force staff btw?

I don't see that on the pinned comment

[strong gulch]

It falls under everything else. Dump WR (warp resistance)

[pale plover]

Got it

[strong gulch]

All force weapons dump WR except VS (voidstrike); VS dumps blast radius

[vestal trench]

is empyric resolve worth it when when leveling?

[strong gulch]

If you're doing left side staff build yeah, but staves suck without good stats and a kit to support them.

Leveling is mostly assail.

Which is mostly right side unless you path across the tree for creeping flames

[vestal trench]

i did lol, i chose shriek over gaze

ig i could try gaze since it's not like im using a staff, mostly assail and force sword

recon las for monsters

[pale plover]

Having never used Assail until today, assail is very satisfying to use lol

[strong gulch]

ER will give you more room to cast. Just make sure you can generate toughness with soulstealer and quietude.

Mettle with guns like recon and vraks 5 is also good for toughness

[vestal trench]

here's what i have, i'll imagine i'll swap to one of the pinned builds at 30 since i really do wanna try a staff

[pale plover]

I've used EK for a long time, I love how it just makes enemies explode sometimes

[strong gulch]

If you want to try staves, you definitely can. ER opens the door.

[vestal trench]

oh shit! sick

[plucky flax]

Hi I saw on reddit ER is really bad for 99% of the time is it true?

[vestal trench]

except the trauma i rolled has 3 warp res rn LMAO

max of 60 at least

[strong gulch]

But know that staves are stat dependent.

[vestal trench]

💀

[strong gulch]

If it came from reddit, then it MUST be true.

[vestal trench]

oh btw does gunker use assail then?

[strong gulch]

A good base for later. lmao

[strong gulch]

yeah

[vestal trench]

i know it's mostly a leveling build but ngl, managing peril while meleeing and weaving assail stacks is addicting

it's the same itch that gets scratched when i play weapon spec vet

but like, upped to 11

[strong gulch]

[plucky flax]

That's too hard you must be pro.

[vestal trench]

nah i fucking suck i just have undiagnoesd adhd

LMAO

went down way more times leveling this class than the others

[plucky flax]

It's hard class made of paper.

[strong gulch]

so pro

unstoppable until I'm stopped

[pale plover]

Gotta love snipers

I swear I’ve seen snipers end more runs than just about any other specials

Maybe trappers

Arbites make pox dogs much less of an issue

[strong gulch]

dog fighting

[deft stump]

If you thought vet was paper... Psyker is... heh.

[vestal trench]

i enjoy it more than vet so far at least, i'll suffer for the fun 😔 ✊

[pale plover]

Vet was the class I managed to beat the Karnak twins on the highest difficulty with back when they first came out. Used my helbore and my shovel and a group of randoms

[ripe obsidian]

I think I will try Canine Moral instead of crit chance or +10% damage.

"Klling Pounced Targets grants Allies in Coherency +20% Toughness Damage Reduction and +10% Toughness over 5s."

Counts if the dog kills the enemy, too

[deft stump]

Thing is... I think it works on yourself as well unlike the similar vet thing.

[ripe obsidian]

It does.

[marble crater]

Gunker is not just mostly for leveling, it's a fully functional build for everything except high havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Affects you as well as allies

[deft stump]

More reason vet needs clear buffs on some nodes.

[marble crater]

Delete vet, we have better vet now

[ripe obsidian]

I am just slightly concerned now that I will be light on damage. I dunno.

[strong gulch]

It works on high havoc but takes a lot skill

Gotta be locked in

[marble crater]

Nobody has that skill, it's impossible

[sturdy reef]

you can run it on high havoc

[vestal trench]

does gunker run a more generalist melee compared to deimos?

[strong gulch]

You fibber. Unsanctioned psyker did it.

[vestal trench]

maybe like the fgs instead?

[strong gulch]

We know it's you

[celest valve]

psyker is so weak we need buffs

[strong gulch]

please buff

[sturdy reef]

obscurus, FGS, newly buffed taxe

[marble crater]

UnsanctionedPsyker uses mods, I play on console, how can it be me

[vestal trench]

oh huh i do like the obscurus

i'll give it a shot with the pinned gunker build

[strong gulch]

You have PC too. duh

[vestal trench]

not having that toughness damage reduction node that scales with peril sparks fear tho

[deft stump]

Are they back to gaslighting?

[celest valve]

I like gunker, force greatsword is gunker if you have a assault rifle secondary right?

[marble crater]

Nobody is gaslighting, you are imagining things

[strong gulch]

I got a bunch of old clips that I should edit togther.

[marble crater]

Meleeker is gunker is meleeker

[celest valve]

excellent

[pale plover]

Wait until we get Ratlings then you can probably delete vet lmao

[celest valve]

will continue to bonk heretics over the head with "gun"

[marble crater]

Yes, gaming montage, don't forget the old Linkin Park song though

[deft stump]

You mean Disturbed.

[pale plover]

Alexa play Heavy Is the Crown by Linkin Park

[marble crater]

I'm not disturbed

[pale plover]

Psyker is disturbed

[deft stump]

I mean the band... >_>

[pale plover]

I think that’s the joke

[marble crater]

Yes, Linkin Park

[pale plover]

Three Days Grace?

[deft stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEx8XyOvmnM

_>

[marble crater]

[pale plover]

The gaslighting is intense

[deft stump]

Is normal. Psykers do that to blunts all the time.

[pale plover]

Can’t wait to smoke one of those myself tomorrow

Best way to play Darktide

I mean uh

In Minecraft

Phew, saved it

[strong gulch]

Love how hightide players either play better high or you can hear the stress in their voice saying that's they're too high and can't do it

[pale plover]

I play so much better high lmao

[strong gulch]

I've only done drunktide. I do not play better drunk. I had to clutch and it was old hab dreyko. I was sweating SO much.

[deft stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0RdBytjfD4

[pale plover]

I love clutching as Vet by using the shout to get all three teammates back up at once

[deft stump]

I don't know why but that sounds wrong in so many ways. From taking THAT subnode to 3 ppl on the floor at the same time.

[strong gulch]

everyone do the dinosaur

[pale plover]

Used it to save the team a couple times during Karnak twins fight

[deft stump]

How did they all die go down in the same place even?

[pale plover]

Iunno they were close enough together for it to work. That arena isn’t THAT big

[deft stump]

Cos the shout radius gets gimped pretty hard.

[pale plover]

Usually I only get two at once

Every now and then 3 go down close enough together I can get them all

[strong gulch]

1 overpaid dog or crusher

[pale plover]

Usually it’s 8 ragers that makes 3 ppl go down close together

In my experience

They take one person down, everyone rushes to pick them up, then the ragers get them too

[deft stump]

Overpaid? You mean overworked.

[strong gulch]

Heck no. Overpaid for sure. Just that one tho. Not the rest.

[pale plover]

What do the mobian sixth use as currency? Snot?

Earwax?

[strong gulch]

no clue

all I know is dregs don't have shoes

[pale plover]

Idk why they thought they could take Tertium, they couldn’t even win whatever war they were in when they fell to chaos

Now they’re losing consistently to squads of 4 rejects and their meddling dog too

[celest valve]

pustules

[pale plover]

It cracks me up every time Rinda Karnak tells us “You wouldn’t last a day in the sixth.” Despite the fact we’ve been kicking the sixth’s ass six ways from sanguinala

[dreamy bronze]

guys what is your go to staff you love and use the most?

[pale plover]

Thus far I like the EK staff cuz it makes ppl go Pop!

[celest valve]

clearly that's why we've been doing so, anyone competent gets killed off

[strong gulch]

EK

[dreamy bronze]

EK? ^^

[pale plover]

Electrokinetic

[strong gulch]

eclectro (old name surge)

[dreamy bronze]

oh... thought so

[pale plover]

Wanna start using the burst one. I liked using it back when everyone said it was trash. Was fun making the heretics fly all over

[dreamy bronze]

ye its the 1 i like the most too lol...
i have it lvl 30, just a returning player i dont remember anything XD

[strong gulch]

valid

lots of info to keep in mind

There's staff builds in the 2nd pin

[pale plover]

Those inferno missions have been fun imo they are absolute chaos with how many specials show up

[marble crater]

Also EK for me

[proper osprey]

i love tac axe melee psyker soooo much

for some reason when i use it i just play so well

@nocturne dust put me down

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-gun-shoot-gif-13910935

I haven't used tacaxe after the buff, so I have no opinion yet

Too busy playing arby

[pale plover]

Arby fun tho

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, 2nd favorite class after psyker

[pale plover]

I like using the new shotgun and shield+maul

[nocturne dust]

I haven't had time to really branch out with weapons yet

shotpistol + shield has been standout in my limited experience tho

[pale plover]

My friend likes that one a lot. I just have a hard time putting the shotgun down

I luv shooting like 10+ guys in the head at once

[pale plover]

Damn that would be a real bad quote out of context

[dreamy bronze]

why not using the +1smite target on smite with the EK build? it still effects the staff too?

[pale plover]

Not that I’m aware of but I could be wrong

[dreamy bronze]

ill just test it then...

[deft stump]

Let the bodies hit the floor?

[pale plover]

Well yeah where else are they gonna hit after you shoot them?

[marble crater]

Shot pistol deals great boss damage, a lot more than expected

[strong gulch]

It doesn't. Was patched out ages ago.

[marble crater]

All those great EK bugs were patched before I played that staff

[summer prairie]

so few arbites playing lone wolf+voltaic

[pale plover]

I knew I remembered ek staff hitting more ppl at one point

[marble crater]

People want to play their pet class with the pet

[pale plover]

I sure as heck don’t wanna give up my dog for some regenerating grenades

If I did I’d just play vet

[marble crater]

You can turn your dog into a regenerating grenade as well, not as strong as the mine, but you still don't have to worry about nades and you can keep the dog

[pale plover]

Yup

[proper osprey]

I thought I hated his unique shock maul but I revisited it and it’s my favorite thing ever lol

Apparently the combat axe is broken on him

Yeah it two shots crushers with buffs

[plucky flax]

Dogless.

[proper osprey]

Tbh the utility of dog and what remote det can do is to useful to pass up

[summer prairie]

I just want someone with the carry mines

[plucky flax]

Tru is op

What level are you? Wanna play I am 37

[summer prairie]

I'm 37 and just started

can play after

[proper osprey]

What the shrimp

[plucky flax]

I'll play an auric to farm penance

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Take the anti corruption talent on arby

[proper osprey]

Knife zealot dream map

[plucky flax]

Xd

[marble crater]

So what, just speed run?

[proper osprey]

Knife zealot meadow where they frolic

[proper osprey]

I wonder if increased bosses is apart of it

Like hidden

[marble crater]

Go and find out

[summer prairie]

@plucky flax actually ready now, someone rushed ritual for no reason

[marble crater]

[proper osprey]

Sorry was me

[potent echo]

New maelstrom

No hordes

[summer prairie]

that sounds terrible

[potent echo]

Yes it is truly the knife zealot dream

[marble crater]

They had to give them something after adding the better zealot class

[proper osprey]

I wouldn’t call him better zealot

More like ogryn vet hybrid

[marble crater]

I haven't seen a single zealot this week, but I have seen vets, psykers and ogryn

[proper osprey]

Everytime I hop on my zealot I debate on trying the new evis or keep having fun with knife or tac axe

[marble crater]

Oh yeah I could try evis again

[summer prairie]

I tried that in solo mode and I'm not taking any corruption damage

[potent echo]

I wanna play the new evis

[summer prairie]

Can't find that maelstorm in code, it's close to being this

[marble crater]

It's actually called speedrun challenge

[plucky flax]

Okay I am done now.

My map is ritual and pus I think.

[summer prairie]

ritual is the worst with randoms, depends on the map though

[plucky flax]

Tru

[minor wedge]

I swear to dog sometimes I wish I could punch teammates

auric maelstrom. Guy dies. I pick him up. Guys proceeds to run off alone again, dies

I pick him up

guy runs off alone AGAIN

dies

etc

I just left that game. im not a fuckin babysitter

https://tenor.com/view/bartlett-west-wing-head-desk-gif-6012433

[wraith sphinx]

[plucky flax]

Sry was me im new

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[marble crater]

The fuck does that even mean

[wraith sphinx]

perpendicular as in perpendicular from the floor

which is to say, "does that Psyker ever stand because they keep kissing the floor"