psyker-class

[potent echo]

Smh my head

[umbral atlas]

(I know skill issue, but its a major change of pace from the tankier classes)

[marble crater]

Bring a Dueling Sword to keep up

[azure quarry]

Also the guide said quell was dump on inferno. So which better?

[marble crater]

Many people don't agree with some parts of the guide, that being one of them

Warp resistance scales the worst, so having it as the dump just makes sense

[umbral atlas]

I am also forcing myself to use weapons I haven't mastered so no dealing sword (though I do love it)

[marble crater]

Force swords

[umbral atlas]

Though I'm not sure if the greatsword is for me, those dodges are STUBBY

[marble crater]

Greatsword doesn't feel great together with staves

[umbral atlas]

Yeah, using the force sword for now and its really good. I don't utilize the peril block enough

[potent echo]

Greatsword wants you to greatsword so you charge the special

If you staff and swap you get uncharged FGS

Which is fine but not peak

I mainly play FGS/assail, only gap left is killing specialists on sight immediately, which naturally means I'm picking a gun for secondary

[umbral atlas]

I might try greatsword on a scriers gaze build next but I dont think that will help with my whole getting killed issue lol

[umbral atlas]

Yeah, I was thinking pistol or something

[azure quarry]

Greatsword with Scrier is a blast

[potent echo]

Once you learn the maps you will be alot more comfortable with knowing where to stand so you never get flanked

Revolver / bolt pistol work well

For special sniping

[umbral atlas]

Revolver is my other GOAT

[potent echo]

"If you can see it, it dies now" weapon

Just need to manage the reloads

[umbral atlas]

Just click on heads!

[marble crater]

Also if you play enough you will get a lot more comfortable with "even if I get flanked I can handle this much and know what to do if it happens"
I frequently ignore maulers next to me so I can take out the specials and then kill the maulers afterwards

[azure quarry]

I think I have a bug on my sfaff

It won't let use Blaze Away blessing

[marble crater]

[azure quarry]

Nvm. It somehow was put on the other slot after I exited?

Whatever

[marble crater]

Hadron trolling people

[umbral atlas]

See I feel this way on zealot and vet but for I'm not handling pressure as well on psyker

[potent echo]

If you pick shriek you will have a really good panic button

[marble crater]

Just play more

[potent echo]

Or even pro active delete button

[azure quarry]

Also Knifer Psyker is decently entertaining

[umbral atlas]

Theoretically I should be just as competent at the melee dance but I dunno, maybe its that I'm trying to find moments to set up big crowd kills and getting blindsided, or just not having the same stagger and toughness buttons I do on other jobs

[marble crater]

Play gunker

[umbral atlas]

I'm fully brain off just playing on vibes as zealot and arbites then I switch to psyker and I'm like "damn maybe I actually suck"

I think I'll do FGS/gun for my next build. Still got a few levels for force sword and electric staff for now

[potent echo]

What is setting up a big crowd kill

[umbral atlas]

I mean like trying to position things to use the inferno staff or smite

[potent echo]

Sounds like a TTK issue

Too much overlapping dps if you burn/smite in the same direction as the other 3 teammates

[umbral atlas]

Im just talking about getting bonked by stragglers while trying to focus on the horde

[potent echo]

That's normal for inferno because it takes time for things to die and they might get a hit in here and there before they die

[umbral atlas]

Maybe I don't feel that on other jobs because stragglers are just more things to kill in melee but I'm more like to get caught off guard by them as support psyker

[potent echo]

And also your teammates could reasonably clear at the same rate as it takes the horde to die to dot

[umbral atlas]

And literally everyone is arbites so I'm the only one who even cares to be in the rear rn

[potent echo]

I find that inferno does the best upfront

Or anywhere away from the team

So you don't get dps overlap

[umbral atlas]

Tough to keep dodging while channeling though that's something to consider

[potent echo]

You can sprint slide while channeling

That's an important tech

[summer prairie]

Nice ovenproof plugin update, certainly right numbers for my Purg psyker (the rightmost column)

[plucky flax]

Report it

[summer prairie]

0 warpfire 894k melee, perfectly normal

[plucky flax]

There's a companion stat now

[summer prairie]

I didn't get the beta

[plucky flax]

But currently not tracking the dog bleed. Dunno if it tracks the electric pounce too

[summer prairie]

since I already have that on power di, wanted see to hear if it works

[plucky flax]

Is the damage the same tho?

[summer prairie]

yes

melee is just sb+melee

I think powerdi is reporting bleeding correctly

or maybe not, there guy also had bleeding on his weapon

[umbral atlas]

Okay that's a good tip, thanks

[umbral atlas]

Also a good tip, I will try to keep that in mind next time I use it

[azure quarry]

Wait what

[potent echo]

Yes it's very important to break shooter lines to suppress/kill all of them with inferno

Channelling in this case means while charging/holding M2

[azure quarry]

Btw what's the best curios? 2 toughness and 1 stamina?

[cunning talon]

any tips for the cliffhanger guys ?

[potent echo]

I used to take 2 tough 1 health, when I was playing havocs I changed to 3 health

I didn't change it even after I stopped havoc

[umbral atlas]

I've seen people advocate going either way for psyker so I just take one of each

[potent echo]

It's honestly fine either way

Psyker has a really low dodge cool down timer

So it's often faster to crab dodge with certain weapons than sprinting with them

This is why I never need stamina on psyker

One handed forcesword it's faster, revolver/ bolt pistol is faster as well

Faster than sprinting with stamina

[azure quarry]

I just wish I didn't go down every time someone sneezes on me

[potent echo]

True

[azure quarry]

I feel like I'm playing badly

[nocturne dust]

Unchained Psyker never

[potent echo]

That one bruiser that ends you

[azure quarry]

Or two dregs that slap my ass

[plucky flax]

No stam just take kd man

[azure quarry]

Kd?

[potent echo]

Kinetic deflection

Block charges peril

Talent

[azure quarry]

Ohhh right.

The build I'm running doesn't take KD though

[clever blade]

Any idea on how to see if empyric shock is working? I can't see it occuring when I primary fire on my surge staff

[potent echo]

Then take it

[potent echo]

Use a mod

[clever blade]

what mod

[azure quarry]

Idk what to remove for it lol

[potent echo]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/137

[potent echo]

Show build

[azure quarry]

Running this one I found
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9daf78ac-d0f8-4052-a630-19bca491eb98/inferno-staff-psyker-current

[clever blade]

how will that tell me? Isn't that node a buff for the player rather than a debuff to enemies?

[potent echo]

I forgor is the shock the one that affects staff M1

[clever blade]

it's this one

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/abilities/empyric-shock

[potent echo]

Wait it is a debuff

[plucky flax]

Looks like havoc build.

But I run different for my own burga havoc build.

[clever blade]

it is? What debuff am I suppose to look at then?

[potent echo]

The mod will show everything

Fully customisable

[clever blade]

will try it out to see if it helps

[potent echo]

I just make mine show numbers

Less visual clutter

[clever blade]

just to be clear, the node is working and the ui just doesnt show it?

[potent echo]

It's a debuff on enmies

Vanilla UI doesn't show debuffs

[umbral atlas]

Does malefic momentum let the force sword buff itself?

[azure quarry]

I wish it did

[potent echo]

Yes

It's great

[potent echo]

I've not directly asked for clothing damage on crushers but...

[plucky flax]

If I catch anyone running wildfire and er here I'm snitching to this man.

[potent echo]

Based reddit psyker

Hating on wildfire and ER

[marble crater]

I use wildfire and empyric resolve

Sue me

[tiny river]

Can you guys rate a build my friend made, intended for a new player

[summer prairie]

every new player should take kinetic deflection

[marble crater]

Uh

[potent echo]

How to make the worst build

[drifting steeple]

It's certainly very top heavy

[potent echo]

I think RNG could make a better one

[marble crater]

I will send you a smite and bubble build, hang on

[cosmic sigil]

The correct way to answer a newbie

[potent echo]

He did have a winning formula though

Smite EP bubble

Peak psyker...

[tiny river]

Its not for me, It was for a dude who just started playing

[plucky flax]

Ill play for couple hours after lunch if you wanna havoc rank up syllo

[tiny river]

I can send it to him though

[marble crater]

If they want to keep smite and bubble then something like this, though I honestly don't know where to put the last two points for that dude

[tiny river]

Thanks king

[marble crater]

You could do Empyric Resolve, for more smite, but that's probably not a good idea for new players, smite already teaches bad habits, imo

[plucky flax]

If there's a bubble smiter in havoc then I won't have to run shock mine as arby

[potent echo]

Wait why did the above build take wildfire on smite bubble

[marble crater]

Soulblaze good

[potent echo]

What's your soulblaze source on smite bubble

PC?

[marble crater]

Yes

[potent echo]

Perhaps

As long as no one kill steals

[umbral atlas]

Man now Im thinking about an infernus lasgun build...

[tiny river]

same guy who tried to prove Vet Backstab could outdamage Shroud Backstab btw 😭 😭 ((my friend not the guy in disc))

[potent echo]

Why not you too can play mid

[plucky flax]

Use the recon lasgun

[umbral atlas]

For soul drinker, not wildfire

[marble crater]

What will you run instead? The grenade?

[plucky flax]

Ye it's pretty good elite damage

[potent echo]

I throw grenade at rager stack nothing die

Do I have skill issue

[plucky flax]

Throw more

[potent echo]

Understandable

[drifting steeple]

I want to be playing darktide but my computer is in the shop and I'm at the hospital for a sleep study
FML x2

[potent echo]

Steam deck

[drifting steeple]

No internet

[potent echo]

Can it even run darktide

[marble crater]

Good timing though, better than PC in the shop after the sleep study

[potent echo]

where solo mode

[drifting steeple]

If i had internet I would be playing Warframe

[umbral atlas]

My friend plays on Steam deck but I don't think it runs GREAT

[drifting steeple]

They said 48 hrs 🫠

[potent echo]

48 hour sleep study

[drifting steeple]

No the PC

[potent echo]

That's unfortunate

[plucky flax]

Fix the pc yourself.

[drifting steeple]

Bastard thing, I was prepared to play darktide yesterday but it wouldn't even turn on

[drifting steeple]

I tried!

[plucky flax]

Did you try to unplug then plug it back in?

It could be psu ran out of juice

Dunno how long you've had that psu

[drifting steeple]

Yes I tried plugging and unplugging, changing cables, plugging straight to the wall, fiddling with the internals

I've had it for like, two years?

[potent echo]

Is there fan spin?

[drifting steeple]

I was going to try to get to the power supply but it has a shroud and I could not figure out how to remove it

And no there wasn't

No lights, no sound, no fan

[potent echo]

No power

[drifting steeple]

Somehow my fiance's PSU that screams every time it turns on may have theoretically lasted longer than mine

[potent echo]

It screams to let out the pain

[drifting steeple]

I hope it's something simple like a connection loosened

I was pressing in all the connections I could find but I was nervous that I was going to break something

[plucky flax]

No power into the psu to power the pc.

Usually if you turn on and nothing happens most likely it's psu related.

Bro wants to join my havoc with 2 curios equipped. Must be john darktide.

[gray juniper]

Hey siblings. I’m confused on something. Most things havoc are explained fairly clear but the emperor fading light is still throwing me off. What does the “no toughness grace period” part mean?
-We have free bar hits and lose it?
-it takes longer to regenerate?

[potent echo]

390 power trinkets

God of darktide

[potent echo]

When your toughness break, on lower difficulties you become immune to shots for a small window

I forgor but it's like less than a second

[gray juniper]

Ah ty so it sounds like it’s not that big of a deal if you don’t have a bad habit about that

[potent echo]

In havoc you die immediately to reaper

[marble crater]

Bad habit about what, getting hit?

[gray juniper]

Someone posted the number on steam forum and I think it was longer like 1

Pweeze don’t quote me though

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

Oh yes. Very much yes

[marble crater]

Too late

[gray juniper]

Not moving immediately

[gray juniper]

: (

[marble crater]

Just always move

[potent echo]

Can't move toughness broken

I'm deeeeeeed

[gray juniper]

That’s why I had to change the controls like you recommended. Things like that extra second dodging because you float turns you into a clay pigeon

Playing hard mode and wondering why I’m still getting lit up inside dodge

[indigo thunder]

What curious to use? Is it still Hp, Toughness and Stamina main stats with Combat ability cd x3, Toughness x2, Corruption x1 and gunners resist x2?

[potent echo]

thats fine

i tell people to run 30% revive speed though

and usually theres no need to take stamina on psyker

[marble crater]

My curios are so boring. 2 toughness, 1 stamina with 3x health, toughness and ability cooldown

[potent echo]

at least 1 gunner res is usually v good too

[marble crater]

I can survive a sniper shot, if I should ever need to and I can survive a mauler overhead, so I'm fine

[indigo thunder]

It used to be the way to go

Then what to take instead? Another toughness or hp?

[potent echo]

either

[marble crater]

Flip a coin

[potent echo]

3 hp is safest

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17ytif5/all_enemy_attacks_damage_values_healthtoughness/

if you care about toughness breakpoints

[marble crater]

It's from reddit, I don't trust it

[potent echo]

🤷‍♂️

[gray juniper]

Anyone know the source of this?

[summer prairie]

What, you want to know the lua?

[potent echo]

aussiemon repo, go!

[summer prairie]

it's not, it was someone's local repo, probably Cole/CommissarTyr

[gray juniper]

[azure quarry]

This a good curio setup? I'm just kinda guessing here

[marble crater]

Toughness regen speed is only for coherency toughness, just take more health or toughness instead

[azure quarry]

oh okay

[solar flint]

is perilous combustion worth it on a warp siphon/bubble psyker in havoc?

[azure quarry]

and for the block and sprint efficiency?

[marble crater]

You probably don't need them, but at least they are doing something

[marble crater]

Perilous Combustion is almost always worth it

[solar flint]

the dot by itself doesn't seem to do much, testing it out in grinder

[azure quarry]

I'll swap for toughness

[solar flint]

it stacks with purgatus staff, but if I'm killing a special with flamer everything around it is already catching fire

[marble crater]

Which weapon are you using?

But it's catching even more fire and it just keeps scaling with the amount of elites

The faster things die the better, perilous combustion's soulblaze cap is higher than inferno's as well, so you can get some really nice damage going on elites and even bosses if they are surrounded by elites

It also triggers off soulblaze tick kills, so you can even start chain reaction kills on a line of gunners you can't quite reach or something

[azure quarry]

Is enfeeble good to have on a smite build?

[potent echo]

why not

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[azure quarry]

Fair. Should I use mettle or Soulstealer? I feel like I may get more from mettle cause crit

[gray juniper]

Yea and if you ever used it in the meat grinder it starts producing kills every 1.5 seconds when things stack up

[azure quarry]

and yes I have Wildfire on my build lmao

[marble crater]

Both, smite itself can't crit

[azure quarry]

I'd use both but I can't decide what to take off for it

[marble crater]

Show a picture, with a smite build you should have more than enough points

[azure quarry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics

Using this

But I took off mettle for enfeeble

[marble crater]

How much do you want to use smite? Do you want to use better smite at the cost of worse performance of the rest of the build?

[plucky flax]

[azure quarry]

I could just take off enfeeble and use mettle then

I guess the 10% damage from all sources baited me

[marble crater]

I would also change battle meditation for perfect timing, with shriek and empyric resolve you should have enough smite time

And then perfect timing helps with the staff, but if you want to go all in on smite then sure don't think anything will survive long enough to need it though

[azure quarry]

Anyway I can keep enfeeble?

[potent echo]

yea my smyker build has enfeeble

smhker

[azure quarry]

I mean what should I remove to add it?

[potent echo]

mettle

you dont need it on smhker

smite can't crit

and you are spending like 80% of any tough engagement holding smite

[azure quarry]

Yeah I think the crit is for the staff

[potent echo]

doesnt proc anywhere often enough for mettle to matter

[azure quarry]

Fair

I'm also trying not to go down a mlion times a run lol

[gray juniper]

What’s the sanctioned bubble knight build?

Nvm found it

[strong gulch]

smite

If you want to drop perfect timing and mettle you can, but you can keep stacks up with ranged or melee weapons. If you drop those, my recs are to take BM and wildfire or path to MM.

EK, revolver, or bistol with a melee that can handle hordes is the rec.

[azure quarry]

Ek?

Oh nvm

[jovial juniper]

The funny thing is that you don't pick enfeeble for the 10% damage
You pick enfeeble because it basically doubles the amount of ticks on the enemies

[azure quarry]

Wait really?

[marble crater]

Fatshark and correct descriptions, name a less iconic duo

[strong gulch]

can't

I can't name one.

[azure quarry]

How does it double?

[strong gulch]

It's a fecked up hit mass thing. More hit mass = longer for the ticks to start. So enfeeble makes smite tick noticeable faster on something like crushers.

[summer marsh]

My beloved is monster watermelon taste

[marble crater]

To the black ships you go

[gray juniper]

@strong gulch hey tater what’s your recommendation on a smite + bubble that’s more fun/versatile?

[marble crater]

Not playing smite + bubble

[strong gulch]

I wanted to say that.

[azure quarry]

I don't have smite and bubble...I have brain pop and bubble with a flame thrower

I'm guessing that's not good

[strong gulch]

For serious tho, I'd used bubble to aggressively reposition and use smite to position enemies where I want them as like a "primer" for my melee like Exploits does it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1xC1bzDJs

[umbral atlas]

I try to use smite as little as possible, but I do like aiming the stagger to bunch enemies into a corner

[potent echo]

or just hold it down the hold match

its optimal

[umbral atlas]

Honestly the more I reflect the more I think even going bubble is a mistake

[azure quarry]

Eh I went melee gun psyket with scrier. Prolly not good in auric but fun

[umbral atlas]

But I need to try things out. I think I want to make a crit scrier's gaze build and then a more general staff user build

[pine shore]

Aren't all scriers builds crit builds?

[umbral atlas]

You could probably go venting shriek but that'd still probably lean towards staff gameplay

You get so much crit even without scrier

I hate that I can't take psykinetic aura and malefic momentum together, I almost dont care about the smites

[marble crater]

It's very good for auric

[marble crater]

Psyker builds are crit builds almost by default

[gray juniper]

Emperor bless 🙏 . Going to use that with the full bubble still and move some things around. Using it that way makes the tree feel more liberal. Will attempt warp siphon for toughness recharge and fast ability instead of DD to see how that works

[potent echo]

level 300 smite shield purg psyker...

[gray juniper]

If the rest of the team is crumbling it’s certainly not

[zinc phoenix]

You use smite to win the game through careful, thoughtful play
I use smite to troll my teammates by pushing bursters halfway across the map to yeet them off a ledge
We are not the same

[strong gulch]

Do only 1 point into shield so that people think the wall will stop specials, BUT IT DOESN'T.

I've totally never done this.

[plucky flax]

It's very good in auric.

[gray juniper]

Just to clarify again, quietude is still activated by itself when the bar starts moving down after the delay, right? Can I melee and it works truly passively?

[strong gulch]

Ye.

If peril passively quells, you get toughness from quietude.

[gray juniper]

Truly the best

[strong gulch]

WE (warp expenditure) on the other hand doesn't always work. Aside from it having way less toughness gen, WE doesn't work with SoA (surety of arms).

[marble crater]

[wispy bay]

Because you never get high stack of soul blaze in the grinder.

It is a talent scale with enemy density.

[mental pagoda]

Mmmmmmm. Fire go fwoosh

[zinc phoenix]

Any new builds crop up in psyker land?

[static panther]

Is there any skill to smite

Or tech

Or is it really that simple

[zinc phoenix]

I know chaos has been pushing that 🫧 knight

And we have the trad builds

[strong gulch]

Not really. Agent's bubble knight is the only one.

[zinc phoenix]

😢

Inshallah one day empower will be good

[jovial juniper]

The tech is that you can throw enemies to the direction you're facing

"Smite juggling"

So you can juggle enemies out of ledges if needed

[static panther]

Huh. That’s pretty cool

[jovial juniper]

Also

Poxbursters insta explode if you use smite throw them on the ground

[strong gulch]

The smite throw back pushes enemies in the direction you're looking.

Enfeeble messes with hit mass so the ticks from smite and charged strike happen faster if you take it.

Charged strikes can make FGS heavies open bulwarks. FGS8 uses that more easily.

Smite takes a moment to stun, so do it a little ealier than when you want the stun to happen.

Ye, smite explodes bursters.

[jovial juniper]

Other than that it should be hold 2 buttons and dodge

💀

[static panther]

Thank you

[strong gulch]

If you get bored in the airlock and pump smite, it can exlplode you.

[upper sun]

@marble crater ok writing in me2 can be a little off sometimes

feels like a drama lmao

[jovial juniper]

There's also Exploits video about using smite as electric primer

[marble crater]

The universe is at stake, it's pretty dramatic

[upper sun]

that was me asking jacob about miranda

shep: hehe i like her
shep: r u mad i'm into her
jacob: NO if i knew anything important about her id be with her or dead I am scared please leave me alone

[marble crater]

🙄

[upper sun]

I wanna post jack dialogue but shes naked in most of it

[jovial juniper]

Gooner game

(post it)

dont

[upper sun]

but its as follows

I came here to rescue you
Shit you sound like a pussy

peak writing this makes up for the jacob event

[spice oar]

Ooo I didn’t realise they make fgs open bulwarks that’s actually rad

I knew that charged strikes had more to it than just dot

[strong gulch]

It's a meme

but also just bonk is funny

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

noice

I'm still only on damnation

[marble crater]

Me pro gamer now

[strong gulch]

unsanctioned psyker allegations holding true

[marble crater]

For now

[plucky flax]

Real

[upper sun]

the auric grind is killing me bros.........

i played the game for almost 2.5k hours

[marble crater]

So for middle keystone penances, we just have to farm kills right? Don't need to pay attention to any stacks or anything, just pew pew and whack whack

[upper sun]

why cant i be trusted to play auric

[plucky flax]

Ye

[upper sun]

🤔 im pretty sure its just hits not kills

[jovial juniper]

Because Fatshark

And that's why

[plucky flax]

3500 kills each kind of a lot

Wish it was 2k or 1.5k

[marble crater]

I have played with you before, I know you can't be trusted

[upper sun]

i play better with people i dont know ok?!

[strong gulch]

I can't be trusted tbh

unreliable potato

[marble crater]

Yeah, those are going to take a while. I knew it was too good to be true when the others didn't take too long to complete

Guess I will be shooting a shotgun into a horde or something

[strong gulch]

I'm not gonna penance farm for now.

[narrow herald]

Btw when you "save" a mission where does it go? 🤔

[marble crater]

what

[narrow herald]

You can save missions now on the terminal

To play later

[strong gulch]

[upper sun]

what

[marble crater]

I can't, are you sure it's not a mod?

[upper sun]

pretty sure thats a mod

[narrow herald]

I swear to God it was in the patch notes

[summer prairie]

Mmt

[upper sun]

was that the vacume capsule update?

[narrow herald]

This update

[strong gulch]

plot twist, I didn't read the patch notes

[marble crater]

[ripe obsidian]

Reading patch notes is for squares

[marble crater]

They might contain potentially useful information though

[upper sun]

they dont

dclaw still sucks

shotguns still mid

[jovial juniper]

You're mid

[marble crater]

Gottem

[strong gulch]

I saw a bunch of weapons that I don't use and am not knowledgeable about, so I skipped them. I did skim a couple sections

Finding what changed and that wasn't in the patch note tho.

When they have psyker updates. 😵‍💫

[marble crater]

I also skip the weapons I don't use

[strong gulch]

[subtle monolith]

if anybody here has some modded UI can you please send me you user_settings file? and screenshot so I can see how your UI actually looks?

[ripe obsidian]

My cats decided last night that sleep is something that happens to other people. Holy moly, I am a zombie.

[pine oyster]

need suggestions for future soul flame builds.. level 16 for now, but need inspiration.

[strong gulch]

While leveling it's advised to use assail since this bypasses a lot of shit gear and the mastery system.

Left side of the tree staff builds are in the 2nd pin. Those all have SB (soulblaze).

[pine oyster]

i'm going for crowd control for this build. my assail one is different, will keep in mind tho

[marble crater]

At lvl 16 there are no crowds to control

[ripe obsidian]

Assail does have some CC elements, too.

[strong gulch]

I forgot to add that staves also are poop on lower level.

[ripe obsidian]

Stagger the world

[strong gulch]

They need all of their stats and also psyker kinda needs most of their talents.

[marble crater]

Sounds like my dog for the past few weeks, she decides to wake me a few hours early every day and then nudges me every few minutes until I wake up and we go for a walk

[strong gulch]

Like, low stats, perks, and blessings without the full tree on VB is a bad time.

[ripe obsidian]

I am sorry for you and your sleep schedule

[marble crater]

Same to you

[strong gulch]

Here's what my UI looks like. IDK about finding the file. TBH, I don't want to learn how then find it.

[ripe obsidian]

%appdata%/Fatshark

[deft stump]

Classic.

[vestal trench]

is it better to just gun psyker + assail on this class when leveling to 30 for ease of use?

[strong gulch]

Short answer yes.

Less so gunker and more so assail. Also staves being crap without high investment.

[ripe obsidian]

Self-driving cars are weird.

I say this as I am riding in one to a doctor's appointment.

Tbh better than a human-driven Uber. More predictable, better at following the rules of the road, I get to control the music.

But still

[strong gulch]

I forget who was talking about it, but someone friend didn't expect and self driving car and was SUPER high. lmao

[woeful wolf]

wuts good psyk stuff

[strong gulch]

staves good
gunker good
force swords and FGS good (except illisi needs a buff)
assail good

[spice oar]

We all good

[vestal trench]

huh so only getting like 3 casts of trauma before needing to quell gets better at higher levels

thanks, i'm lowkey surprised they patched out the old conflagration staff finger rolling trick from vt2

[woeful wolf]

i aint reading all that

🤓

[static sonnet]

Here's to hoping peril cost reduction becomes optional in the tree someday.

[marble crater]

You don't have to, Warp Expenditure is a bad talent anyway

[woeful wolf]

i saw a psyker throwing lightning everywhere and stunning hoards it looked cool so i made one

whats a good build like that?

[marble crater]

Even better if you use venting shriek instead of the shield

[woeful wolf]

cool

ty

[marble crater]

You are welcome

[indigo thunder]

What perks and blessing for dueling sword?

[woeful wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-starwars-star-wars-emperor-gif-7513769

[somber parcel]

guess whats wrong with this image

[analog agate]

Maniac/unyielding. uncanny/riposte

[vast yew]

How tf you have so much pastel but so little diamantine

[indigo thunder]

Both maniac and unyielding?

Damn, ok

[woeful wolf]

expensive

[analog agate]

Maniac to more easily one shot muties and deal with ragers. Unyielding cause the game as got more boss spammy

[marble crater]

The 61% cleave damage should be warp resistance

(it's rounding)

[vast yew]

Also where Wrath

And is Carapace/Unyielding the play on FGS? Thought it was Flak/Maniac/Unyielding (pick 2)

[marble crater]

Greatsword already kills everything smaller than a mauler

[vast yew]

hmmm fair enough then.

[marble crater]

So yes cara unyielding for the big things

[vast yew]

I guess the only things "wrong" then would be the dump stat and the blessing choices

[marble crater]

Blessings are okay too

[vast yew]

No Wrath doesn't feel okay

Riposte and Deflector are usable but I'd always take Wrath

Might not be as big of an issue while still leveling though

[analog agate]

Wrath is a must if you aren’t doing gunker build

Unless you aren’t using it for hordes that is

[vast yew]

I mean if you aren't using it for hordes then Deimos/DS4/Combat Blade are probably just better

[indigo thunder]

How to use purgator properly? Just spam lmb? When to use rmb?

[summer prairie]

only use rmb unless you need more reliable stagger or have to play very safely otherwise

charge time isn't very important, depends on how much time you have

[vast yew]

LMB is only to emergency stagger Ragers or such

RMB + Blaze away should delete most everything

[indigo thunder]

Is uncanny+riposte really the way on DS?

[marble crater]

You can also do shred instead of riposte. Personally I like thrust

@strong gulch my dog is getting more elite kills than me I'm loving this

[wraith sphinx]

🙈

[tulip kettle]

purgatus is based around crits. do the thing to get the crits. And spamming LMB is low dps but very high stagger on a very low cd so can be used to keep you very safe in most situations at the expense of DPS

[strong gulch]

lmao

don't feed dog before missions

keep em hungy

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[strong gulch]

I have rookie numbers too. Don't worry.

[wraith sphinx]

I'm liking the arbites shock maul and shotgun the most so far

[marble crater]

I have 49 days and 11 hours

[wraith sphinx]

crusher is also very fun

[marble crater]

Crusher has always been fun on zealot, bullying all the melee elites that bully you on psyker

[wraith sphinx]

on psyker? I just bully them back with knife

[marble crater]

That's not really bullying

[vast yew]

Crusher + Shotpistol is a ton of fun

Very safe

[ripe obsidian]

I'm using s.maul and executioner shotgun. Can one-shot Reapers with the shotgun with my buffs stacked. Can 4-shot crushers with no buffs.

[marble crater]

Shield melee too, all the arby weapons are good

[ripe obsidian]

I don't regret going execution/high voltage on the s.maul. Yet. But I haven't taken Arby into Havoc. Might end up wanting confident strike.

[vast yew]

Yeah so far I'm a big fan of the Crusher, Arby Smaul, and the MK6 Maul & Shield

[ripe obsidian]

Crusher feels painfully slow. The maul and shield is great

Shotpistol and shield is also great

[vast yew]

Crusher might be slow but when you've got +100% cleave for free and can chain-knockdown everything it doens't really matter

[ripe obsidian]

Fair

[indigo thunder]

only tickles Maulers

But it's fine

[ripe obsidian]

No?

[vast yew]

Nah Maulers get deleted by Inferno staff

[ripe obsidian]

Maulers are flak. They get wrecked.

[vast yew]

It's why you put +Flak on it

[ripe obsidian]

When do you empower the Crusher? Or special attack, whatever

[vast yew]

Yes

[indigo thunder]

Oh, sorry. Not maulers. I meant crushers

[ripe obsidian]

Every attack?

[vast yew]

More serious answer: whenever it's convenient

It makes your light attack do a big AoE knockdown, so handy if you're getting a bit overwhelmed

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, yeah. Crushers don't care about fire. Bring an anti-armor melee or hide behind teammates.

[indigo thunder]

DS or force sword?

[vast yew]

Alternatively, it makes your heavy attack do more damage, so if you're closing ground on a big boi then it's a nice bit of bonus damage on the first swing

[ripe obsidian]

DS for now. But I mostly use DS for mobility and hide behind teammates. Ogryn, kill that crusher for me!

[vast yew]

I usually start fights with an Empowered attack and then re-empower if there's a gap in the horde or of I feel like I need space.

[indigo thunder]

Isn't knife better for mobiility?

[ripe obsidian]

Gotcha. I'll give the crusher another try eventually. I know it's good, I just need to figure out if I like it

Knife and DS have the same mobility, essentially

Knife has the movement curve when charging a heavy attack

Otherwise same dodges and movespeed, I believe

[strong gulch]

DS5 gets close to knife's mobility.

DS4 and DS2 have less. Still high tho.

[ripe obsidian]

I thought the bonuses were identical. Alas.

[marble crater]

DS5 has defenses instead of cleave, zoom zoom zoom

[summer prairie]

Voltaic mandibles damage gets reported as your melee damage (uses shockmaul_stun_interval_damage damage profile) and it's actually very significant, like 10% of your total. Companion damage is overall >>20% of total and that's without counting bleed, which likely can't be currently tracked because it's not attributed to any player or companion internally. Psyker_heavy_swings_shock is the dog remote detonation and I think ovenproof reports that as ranged damage @plucky flax

[upper sun]

🤔 so ds5 has mobility and defense

sooo fatshark fucked up and made its movement scale twice

[strong gulch]

IDK, but defenses and mobility have some overlap. That's as much as I know.

[upper sun]

ye same

sprint speed prolly

[jovial juniper]

Then you have chain axes with both stats but way worse dodges

[strong gulch]

This game. Never assume.

[ripe obsidian]

Razor jaw is shocky dog?

[summer prairie]

oops

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know. I am asking, not correcting you

[summer prairie]

voltaic mandibles, not razor-jaw

[jovial juniper]

(it's because defense on Chaxe is only push cost, not dodges)

[tulip kettle]

DS also has agile tho

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't realize the doggo did so much work. 20% of damage is massive.

[summer prairie]

I've seen 30% but sample sizes are small and not sure how they were playing

[tulip kettle]

agile + uncanny and +cara make fighting crusher blobs fun

[ripe obsidian]

I'll need to test the damage increase of shockbite when I get home

[jovial juniper]

Eh
Agile is a waste

[summer prairie]

if you take any dog node it should be shockbite

or remote detonation i guess

[prime elk]

Tfw a dodge blessing is only available on weapons with excellent dodges

[jovial juniper]

Simply stop dodging for 0.85 secs
Get all your dodges back

[ripe obsidian]

I thought bleed would do more than shockbite, honestly.

[prime elk]

Shock bite that good?

[tulip kettle]

agile is most certainly not a waste on psyker imo, its definately a kind of crutch though

[jovial juniper]

No no it's a waste

[summer prairie]

Hard to tell how much bleed is doing, probably also significant if you keep pouncing

[ripe obsidian]

I was using agile, but it was making me fall into bad habits. I have stopped using it

[jovial juniper]

Could've been using Precognition there

[tulip kettle]

yeah i guess for those without skill issues

the bleed on dog is insane.

it procs on everything it touches when it pounces except the target

if you ping a special in a horde the horde just dies

[ripe obsidian]

I think it also procs on the target, no?

[tulip kettle]

it doesnt

in my experience

[ripe obsidian]

"When Cyber-Mastiff pounces 'human-sized' enemies (see 'Cyber-Mastiff' section), it creates a non-damaging explosion with a 2m radius. This explosion applies 8 stacks of bleed to all enemies within radius; up to 16 max bleed stacks on a target. Can apply bleed through Bulwark shield and Captains/Twins void shield.

Bleed: same as other sources of bleed; lasts 1.5s; ticks every 0.5s; refreshes duration on stack application; above average armor damage modifiers across the board, low armor damage modifier against Carapace."

[tulip kettle]

i mean i just tried it and it didnt

[summer prairie]

it sometimes does, sometimes doesn't

[tulip kettle]

but maybe its inconsistent in some way idk

[summer prairie]

at least in psykhanium

[strong gulch]

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[ripe obsidian]

I am still deciding if I like doggo or Lone Wolf more. Doggo has more companionship and funny moments. Lone Wolf makes me feel even more like a juggernaut

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[strong gulch]

My biggest problem with dog is having enough brains to tell it to do things but also NOT to stare at it.

[tulip kettle]

in non havoc i like no dog

but in high havoc the dog on anti shooter mode is just a godsend

not just for you but for your whole team

not having to worry about all those individual shooters is such a good qol thing

and you can still target it onto specials or elites as needed

[strong gulch]

Like haha bomber 70m away go get em pupper lol it lives in the back rooms and now it's fence hopping.

bulwark pack keeps thumping me while I ignore them and watch the dog

[tulip kettle]

honestly relateable

also just struggling with bulwarks more than anything else on arbiter

if im not running break the line they can be very problematic

[ripe obsidian]

I am futzing with builds when I should be working. Tell me how this could be better for a doggo + melee build. There are a few talents I'm bouncing between.

[tulip kettle]

obviously doggo saves all

[strong gulch]

I was running break the line. I knocked them over and went back to watching my dog.

[summer prairie]

Concussive is too good not to take

especially with a melee build

[strong gulch]

I have no idea or brains for arby's. I cannot help you.

[ripe obsidian]

I have no brain in general. :D

[tulip kettle]

what weapon were you planning on running?

[ripe obsidian]

I've been using s.maul, mostly. Also open to taxe, crusher, shield + maul.

Or anything, really

[tulip kettle]

i think soulguilt is bad

[ripe obsidian]

The arby maul just feels nice to use

[tulip kettle]

i love the maul, and the shield + maul

[ripe obsidian]

Which mark of shield+maul?

And I like soulguilt so far. Lots of fun bonking folks. But I could see dropping it for Emperor's Fist or something else

[strong gulch]

shield maul has mks.

Oh right. Spikey or not

[analog agate]

11? Or is it 9

[tulip kettle]

soulguilt is "fine" but you have so much str anyway and i dont personally think the stretch for nodes is worth it

[analog agate]

One of those ones. It is either XI or IX

[tulip kettle]

i would look to have this as a base for a mainly melee focussed build using the shield

then spend the other points as you see fit

the dog will deal with most ranged threats for you

[ripe obsidian]

• soulguilt, + concussive

[tulip kettle]

but also wont be near you very much

so theres not too much value in taking talents that focus it

[marble crater]

I don't know any of those talents yet

[ripe obsidian]

I do have a build like this. But I am experimenting to try to work in more doggo damage nodes

[tulip kettle]

i think in that case

i would not run rnged focus on it

and would need to compensate for that with my ranged weapon in some way

the more dog talents you want to take, the more you want it to be near you

i would certainly take voltaic mandibles though

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I have picked shockbite and bleedpounce

[marble crater]

Why? It can also kill targets away from you with more damage

[tulip kettle]

truuuueee

but when its not around to shock and stagger everything near you constantly

you lose lots of melee dps

though again, with shield, you just dont need it

arby shield special broken mechanic

why does it have it

[marble crater]

I guess, I don't feel like lacking shock or stagger though. Everything is either one or both

Arby is the bullying class

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah, but like, MORE of it is good

i tell ya, when the crusher blob comes

and the dog pounces into them and then you trigger the blitz

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[ripe obsidian]

I'll probably experiment after work to see how I feel. If I drop the ranged focus, I would either take Emperor's Fist, Soulguilt, +25% cleave, Hammer of Judgment, or Force of will

So many good talents

[tulip kettle]

thing is

with break the line and the perks

and forceful

you will have the buff from BTL and forceful almost 100% of the time

so +25% str +25% dmg

from just those 2 nodes

is why i dont think stretching essentially 4 nodes for soulguilt is worth

but thats just like, my opinion man

[ripe obsidian]

+15% damage on dodge, +16% crit chance, +15% damage for bonking heretics. They're not really stretch nodes, imo.

They're all pretty impactful

[tulip kettle]

theyre all good for sure

but so is literally every talent

this is what ive been running with a shield and a bolter for monstrosities and crusher packs

in havoc

[ripe obsidian]

What's your shield build/mark? I've swapped between the two marks a bunch.

[tulip kettle]

and i just feel so safe and strong all the time

mk 11

[ripe obsidian]

And I have yet to go into Havoc with Arby

[tulip kettle]

with +2 stam and + flak

the light light push combo is just broken like this

[summer prairie]

Target the weak is multiplicative damage, better than most damage buffs

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah i also love that too

[upper sun]

what are we thinking for curios on arbites?

[tulip kettle]

but not done nearly enough testing to know yet

[upper sun]

ive been doing 2x toughness 1x stam

[gray juniper]

I haven’t tried it out yet so I didn’t assume this and my build is probably wasteful

[tulip kettle]

i have been running 1 stam 2 tough

[upper sun]

but i feel like im not having stam issues

maybe ill be fine without it

[tulip kettle]

with + combat ability on all and once has stam regen

[ripe obsidian]

I've been doing 2 tough, 1 hp, and I haven't had stamina issues

[tulip kettle]

but yes, i also never feel i need more stam

at the same time

walk it off exists

and when running shield with drive them back i want to push A LOT

[ripe obsidian]

I also haven't gotten enough curios to experiment much

100k+ melk bucks spent, only 3 usable curios

[tulip kettle]

i got better ones from melk once i was 30

[marble crater]

[tulip kettle]

but still no +3 stam or 21% hp yet

[marble crater]

You actually got scammed, holy shit

[prime elk]

Oof. I’m looking forward to that…

[ripe obsidian]

I have no more melk money. Alas.

[prime elk]

I have about 115k milk bucks

[ripe obsidian]

I had like 120k

[marble crater]

Why curios weren't updated in the crafting patch, I will never understand

[summer prairie]

how many weeks of contracts was that for 3 curios

[ripe obsidian]

Many.

Very, very many.

[strong gulch]

My arby was pretty lucky curio wise. 10k melks and I got 2 +3 stams (real ones) and a 17 toughness. Plenty of 16 toughness and 20 health curios.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[ripe obsidian]

Hm. How useful is crit on Arby? I don't think they have many crit nodes, mostly stagger

[tulip kettle]

they have higher base crit at 7.5%

but i have not found anything worth focussing crits for yet

though i have not looked that hard

[strong gulch]

40k melts for a +3 stam curio on one of my psykers tho. Not great.

[tulip kettle]

maybe a revolver/bistol + taxe build with terminus warrant could be good

but also then i would just play vet or psyker to do the weapon swapping gameplay loop probably

[ripe obsidian]

Well, I am thinking I could drop the crit node for something else. Just not sure what. More damage or more toughness?

[summer prairie]

I'd drop the dog damage node from charge, iirc it doesn't buff mandibles or bleed damage

[ripe obsidian]

Force of Will and Canine Morale are the two that I am pondering for defense. Emperor's Fist for offense.

[ripe obsidian]

That's disappointing

[tulip kettle]

i would be tempted to drop will of the lex and kill order for street smarts and target priority

also the flat +25% cleave node is kinda good depending on weapon

i think will of the lex is just bad personally

one of the few bad nodes

and take force of will instead

[summer prairie]

5% toughness / s is very good

[tulip kettle]

hard disagree

[summer prairie]

as good as walk it off

your dog keeps your stacks up too

[tulip kettle]

you can get 10% every attack from force of will

[zinc phoenix]

the havoc party finder thing is such dogshit code

constant bugginess with joining, leaving, long load times when searching

[tulip kettle]

you wont have 10 stacks of forceful up as much as you think either

[summer prairie]

you do

[tulip kettle]

because you will be losing them with BTL constantly

[ripe obsidian]

I go from 0 to 10 in like 2 seconds after using BTL

[summer prairie]

you get them back instantly with the charge

[prime elk]

Literally why I stopped caring about havoc lol

[tulip kettle]

yup exactly

and then you BTL again

[summer prairie]

so you always have 10

[tulip kettle]

meanwhile you just gained 100% toughness from swinging into a mob

[summer prairie]

you press charge, you lose stacks and you hit targets that get staggered and you are back at 10

[tulip kettle]

i think there are so many better nodes than 5% per second

[ripe obsidian]

So this is where I have settled for the moment. I worry a little bit that it is too defense-heavy. Gonna have to test it.

[tulip kettle]

but again its my opinion

i would play that

i might not have built it that way myself but looks very playable

[ripe obsidian]

I'm sure I'll tweak it more as I actually use it

See where I feel weak

[tulip kettle]

with +25% to shocked and staggered blessings

you will still be shitting out dmg

my concern with that build is monstrosities

but i guess proccing BTL then dumping a bolter would be ok

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't had issues with them yet, but I have to finish the story campaign for havoc. >.>

[tulip kettle]

then do 10 damn missions 🙂

[ripe obsidian]

Gross.

Then work my way back from 30 to 40.

The rank reset is obnoxious

[tulip kettle]

indeed

and still the gatekeeping

[prime elk]

lol I started the campaign and then abandoned it

Too annoying

Everything about this stupid grind is annoying

[vast yew]

I chose to skip the campaign on two characters and it keeps trying to play the cinematic cutscenes for me anyways

[prime elk]

Yah I get it to

[vast yew]

Hoping it quits doing it after I play through the campaign on my Zealot

[heady kelp]

guys can someone paste some auric build for psycher? need some suggestions, cannot decide which weapon to use....

[marble crater]

There are builds for every staff in the pins

All work in auric

[analog agate]

The best thing we ever did was have the mods pin Potato’s posts

[zinc phoenix]

jesus havoc is so buggy

we lose a h35 and the game thinks i left so now im havoc banned

idk why i went back to this mode for even a minute

[tulip kettle]

because you dont feel challenged enough by any of the other content

youre chasing the darktide dragon

oh shit wait they updated mortis with auric didnt they

imma check that out

[zinc phoenix]

yeah but mortis blows ass

[tulip kettle]

true

[zinc phoenix]

idc if they made it hard if ur just sitting on your ass whole mission

[tulip kettle]

but maybe with auric its enough

i saw a screenshot with 5 active bosses

[gray juniper]

Gah dayum is that a thing now?

[marble crater]

Thy also shortened the time between waves, didn't they?

[tulip kettle]

so says the notes

i am about to find out i guess

[ripe obsidian]

@summer prairie if you happen to come across more information about the dog's damage output, I would be interested to hear it

[marble crater]

I will also find out, I want to know what kinds of upgrades the arby gets in trials

[jovial juniper]

There's one for Castigator Stance where you're totally immune to damage while it's active

[umbral steppe]

Man.

I haven't played sense the Havok update.

Dueling Sword feels.

Off.

[marble crater]

Nice, slight buff to the normal stance then

[jovial juniper]

No changes to it

Actually scratch that

Mk5 L3 got buffed recently

[umbral steppe]

Wait really.

I swore something was goofy.

[strong gulch]

At least, that's what the patch notes claimed. I didn't use DS5 much, so I couldn't tell ya. lmao

But DS buffed.

[umbral steppe]

Maybe it's just cuz I havent played in a while.

How did it get buffed though?

[strong gulch]

How? DS5 L3 was buffed.

Why?? no clue

[marble crater]

Depending on the last time you played the DS2 and DS5 were also buffed since, to bring them more in line with DS4 damage

Which is super funny in hindsight

[umbral steppe]

Oh I used MK IV.

[strong gulch]

DS2 H1 being lower than DS4 H1 made no forking sense. It bothered my the entire time it was like that. Glad they chaged it.

[umbral steppe]

Here's what I was using.

I still dunno if I wanna change out Agile for something else or not.

[deft stump]

Dog bomb mortis might be funni with Bistol. Lethal and puncture works on it in Aurics.

SInce I heard it auto dog bombs every 10 secs.

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

Why yes, I made a bistol.

_>

<_<

When oggy Bistol?

I want to see frag deleting maps.

[marble crater]

I just skimmed the auric etiquette post on reddit, I might or might not break some of those suggested rules from time to time

[deft stump]

Wot?

[marble crater]

What?

[jovial juniper]

Change agile for either Riposte or Precognition

[marble crater]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/gs3Jczm3hJ

[jovial juniper]

Agile is a waste of blessing slot

Can't lie

[marble crater]

Uh oh, Karien will flame you now

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

They hate truth sayers

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

[ripe obsidian]

What does Bistol do for thr dogbomb? Increase radius?

[jovial juniper]

Lethal Proximity interaction probably

[vestal trench]

im assuming atheneum guide is outdated af and it's better to base off of potato's builds?

[deft stump]

Lethal Prox and Puncture works on it.

[deft stump]

They both do. I tested.

[ripe obsidian]

So bigger bomb and bloody bomb

[deft stump]

It kills everything in auric that isn't a boss, an oggy or a mutie.

[jovial juniper]

Another interaction has hit the live servers

[deft stump]

The main psyker guide has been outdated for ages.

[vestal trench]

yeah i didnt know until i searched "atheneum" on here

last update on steam says july 19 too

i been misled 😔 ✊

should probably be unpinned no?

[deft stump]

And yep, more or less. It's hilarious.

[vestal trench]

are all the quell cancel techs really necessary or can you get by with learning to integrate sprint slide to most of your actions when helpful?

[ripe obsidian]

Per path, lethal prox is active even with your melee weapon out. Is puncture?

[deft stump]

I dunno. I guess, unless they plan to update it.

[umbral steppe]

I had a feeling between on of those two.

[deft stump]

Puncture requires gun out.

[ripe obsidian]

Rude.

[deft stump]

Lethal just works.

[ripe obsidian]

Quell cancel is dead.

Fatshark killed it a few patches ago

[verbal thistle]

Actually

Staff QC is

My assail QC lives!!

[deft stump]

Same strat as Assail and FGS. Except dog bomb doesn't require fast switch.

Just gun out, push blitz.

[ripe obsidian]

I shall defer to you, Ainz

[deft stump]

Anything in AoE ded.

[ripe obsidian]

I do not know this strat

[deft stump]

Assail and FGS applies puncture.

Well, the warpslash for FGS.

You can skip LP on Psyker.

The idea is, Throw assails or slash and swap to gun.

Anything hit while gun is out BLEEDS.

[strong gulch]

the bleed works on assail too

[deft stump]

I just said it.

[strong gulch]

Yeah but I type slow and was finding a vid.

[ripe obsidian]

That is silly

[plucky flax]

Why are you being mean to potato beans?

@strong gulch is okay karien is just big meanie.

[umbral steppe]

Man.

I wanna make a Melee Pysker build one day.

That shit looks fun.

[marble crater]

Another gunker born every day

[analog agate]

Thank god for mortis. The remote detonation penance would have been a slog. Though that 3500 marked kills with the dog is definitely the biggest

[marble crater]

It's only a slog if you didn't plan to make it your "main" build

[analog agate]

I don’t like dog builds 🫠

[marble crater]

Your profile picture betrays you

[ripe obsidian]

Dog is good.

[analog agate]

I mean. If it could be MY dog. Then maybe

[marble crater]

I named it after my dog, so it is

[umbral steppe]

Tiny little Cyber dog.

That's kinda hard.

[ripe obsidian]

I'm poking around at dog builds. It seems like you only need to move 2-3 points to empower the dog. But you do lose the juggernaut power of Lone Wolf.

[marble crater]

Look at what they can do though, pay attention to kill feed

[nocturne dust]

Woah, the grenade does grenade things

crazy

[marble crater]

Excuse me, it's a dog and not a grenade

[nocturne dust]

sounds like a grenade with extra steps

[upper sun]

cant believe i was right about explosive dog being an ability

[zinc phoenix]

i keep thinking barbies are unkillable gods and then i see other people play them

because like if you didnt build your barbie like a melon its basically impossible to die and they do tons of damage

you have to really try to fuck up

[analog agate]

*Avg Darktide player

[zinc phoenix]

srsly

[azure quarry]

I'm very tempted to just stop playing this game for a few weeks if every time I play it's just a speed run to death

[analog agate]

I have never had such a string of <50 dmg taken games lol

[zinc phoenix]

i solve that by telling teammates to stay behind me and then killing literally everything

[upper sun]

@marble crater https://streamable.com/vlva8a

[azure quarry]

I also don't know if I'm playing smite properly

[upper sun]

try to focus on staggering enemies and letting team readjust dont smite long enough for them to get used to it

[lone ravine]

use it to create some space then continue attacking dont smite for your entire peril bar

[upper sun]

like you see a group of maulers rushing your team smite a bit let go so they get knocked back then swap to melee or ranged

if you let go of smite before it gets to max peril it knocks enemies back thats pretty useful

since it takes them longer to recover from a knockback than smite and leaves you more time to attack

[azure quarry]

I built into smite damage so yeah

[upper sun]

smite doesnt do damage

[nocturne dust]

Pubbers gonna pub

[zinc phoenix]

b r e h

please check the pinned builds and play one

watch as your mission success rate skyrockets

[nocturne dust]

Smite is a build that can work

[zinc phoenix]

it also turns you into a melon

[nocturne dust]

It's just not max meta while also being annoying and boring for your team soooooo

[azure quarry]

I'm doing fine, just with all the arbites and whatever I'm getting left alone ad they only kill enough to run further ahead.

[nocturne dust]

generally frowned upon

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, play knife/staff

Smite makes you slow

Take Voidblast and you're basically smite but mobile

and damaging

[azure quarry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics

Pretty much my build

[nocturne dust]

EK without perfect timing

Definitely a smite build

One of the smitiest of all time

[azure quarry]

Okay I get it, I'm shit for playing this build.

[strong gulch]

I wish mettle and perfect timing were switched on the tree.

[rough iron]

it does upset me greatly that their explosives are like 50% better than most other grenades the other classes have. Their instant impact grenade is 3x more lethal than the shredder grenade, or the box of boom when it comes to the casual explosions.

[marble crater]

I don't remember that part

[upper sun]

same

now the question

[marble crater]

I'm sure there will balance changes

[upper sun]

should i start romancing miranda before or after i meet with liara

[rough iron]

before

[upper sun]

🤔

wont she know

[rough iron]

Does it matter?

[upper sun]

good point

[tall creek]

what's the inferno staff dump stat?

[marble crater]

Warp resistance

[tall creek]

is that so you can farm peril for more venting shrieks? Just trying to understand

[nocturne dust]

Not really.

Play what you like

[ripe obsidian]

My understanding is that it's twofold: you can compensate for more peril generation without too much issue, and anything else has a larger impact on your overall DPS. I remember reading somewhere that dumping quell speed instead lowers your damage output in the long term.

[nocturne dust]

I'll just judge you for liking smite

[azure quarry]

Why is it bad to like it?

[nocturne dust]

Because it's different from me

[ripe obsidian]

Smite takes fun away from other players and negates dodge nodes

It is not weak. It's just not a playstyle most people enjoy, particularly non-psykers

[azure quarry]

How is it not fun for others?

[nocturne dust]

It stunlocks enemies

[ripe obsidian]

It can also reinforce bad habits and prevent you from getting better at the game

[tall creek]

That's the lightning hands yeah?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

Fighting along a smiteker is hitting a bunch of training dummies

[tall creek]

Yeah, that kept me from getting good at dodging. I got better when I started playing zealot/arbites

[nocturne dust]

every enemy except bosses become dummies that stand still, a lot find that boring

[tall creek]

and using something else, lol

[azure quarry]

Fine. I should just delete my build then

[nocturne dust]

You can play it if you want

[tall creek]

I mean, that's one message you could take from the discussion...

[ripe obsidian]

You can play whatever build you want. But reacting angrily to criticism won't win you friends

[jovial juniper]

You should refine it

Smite 24/7

[nocturne dust]

If you want to use smite in a way that's more conducive to cooperative play, you can do repeat knockdowns instead of stunlocks

[azure quarry]

I liked the damage and the supportive nature of it

[ripe obsidian]

Dodging as well as positioning and reacting to changing situations

[nocturne dust]

Basically, charging and then lmbing just long enough to stun the enemies you need to, and then releasing so they get knocked down. Gives you time to stab/staff things too

[tall creek]

yup.

[nocturne dust]

Then play it 🤷‍♂️

[azure quarry]

I guess now I'll just learn to use my Flaming Bubble build better and start using a Voidblast Bubble build. That and my gun psyker build

[tall creek]

that push at the end of the smite is good for the cc you're looking for while letting other people have fun

[azure quarry]

Voidstrike dump is blast radius right? Sounds righ

[nocturne dust]

Just remember not to rely too much on bubble, lest it become a crutch

see pins for weapon dumps, but yes

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble is a crutch for teammates who won't stand out of harm's way

I must save them from themselves

[azure quarry]

...okay so smite and bubble are no goes. I guess Scrier it is!

[ripe obsidian]

...?

[nocturne dust]

Bro, I finally got into damnation on Arby and the first match I get an ogryn who doesn't know what sliding is 😭

[ripe obsidian]

It's hard on his knees. Don't be mean.

[jovial juniper]

Infinite smite it is

[nocturne dust]

One way to take our advice, lol.

Gunker pipeline

[azure quarry]

Well going Smite is bad cause it's not fun for others and makes bad habits

bubble shield is apparently bad cause it can be a crutch if you use it for defense instead of being mobile and dodging

[ripe obsidian]

Friend, countryman, lend me your ear. It's a game. It's not that serious. If you're feeling frustrated, step away from the PC.

[azure quarry]

So all that's left is Scrier.

[nocturne dust]

vent 😭

[azure quarry]

ah right vent, Was going for the blitz or whatever but yeah

[nocturne dust]

Also, it's not that they're bad, but that they have pitfalls.

[jovial juniper]

Psykers when asked what's left

https://tenor.com/view/end-of-watch-locker-scene-jake-gyllenhaal-gif-8856476536569176567

[frail escarp]

guys is there any animation cancel worth doing on the infernus staff like you can do slide and charge on the voidblast?

[nocturne dust]

We are warning you to not step into the pitfall, not to not use the thing.

[azure quarry]

Every build has pitfalls. I learned that as a Vet player