psyker-class

[upper sun]

so someone can actually spend the entire mission yapping with everyones voices and block all voice lines

[analog agate]

Lol

[blissful solar]

worse things could happen in terms of being trolled

[plucky flax]

Yeah like loud voice chat

But mute button exists for a reason

[woeful wolf]

You never know man....

[analog agate]

Outside of the “forbidden” mods we are talking about. No, you 100% can’t get banned for any darktide mods on Nexus

I have 30-40 of em

[woeful wolf]

Was just checking

[analog agate]

Hell, even FS employees use them

[woeful wolf]

Coo

[tepid python]

name 20 forbidden mods

[umbral spoke]

Is there any actual talent tree for the arbiter thats out

[steady torrent]

Been using mods for two years and haven't got banned, so you should be chillin

[ripe obsidian]

You're a vacuum capsule

[plucky flax]

No im >yes >no

[steady torrent]

Erm wtf

Didn't know there are some gooners in this chat

[woeful wolf]

psyker gooners

[plucky flax]

Only because of gooner blade

The actual dt gooners are in zealot chat

[ripe obsidian]

Zealot chat is a strange place.

[steady torrent]

Always the damn zealot chat

[brazen rampart]

I have seen more gooners in here go unpunished than in zealout chat.

To the point I've had to take screenshots and post them to prove people are freakier here than zealout chat.

🚬

[steady torrent]

Change chat name to freaker class

[brazen rampart]

There was that one SourGoat fella... nasty...

[steady torrent]

How nasty we talking about?

[brazen rampart]

I'm not going to repeat what he said but, something involving "take me out to dinner first" after some freaky deaky shit.

[plucky flax]

Wanna play?

[ripe obsidian]

I am at work. D:

Not doing much work, but still here.

[steady torrent]

That's wild

[plucky flax]

That's me most days at work.

[brazen rampart]

Yeah, and zealouts make jokes about femboys or whatever and we are the bad guys.

🚬

[plucky flax]

In work for 8 hours. Actual work probably 2 hours.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. I usually work from home on Fridays, but today I had to come in for a meeting

[steady torrent]

Let me guess, was sourgoat a zealot main?

[plucky flax]

Working from home or getting paid to play videogames?

[brazen rampart]

No, he mainly spoke here.

We bullied him out of zeal chat for having the worst takes known to man. (at the time)

[ripe obsidian]

Depends on the day, really.

I actually can't do as much work in the office as I would be able to at home. My test hardware is in my home office.

[steady torrent]

Yall did some emperors work

[steady torrent]

Did you intentionally have your test hardware at home, lol?

[ripe obsidian]

Sort of. I have nowhere to plug it in here. The test bed is in another state.

[upper sun]

yeah take me out to dinner first before we enjoy a lovely evening of playing DT

[gray juniper]

Bare feet? In my turn based game? It’s more common than you think

Ngl this gooner blade talk is funny as hell

[plucky flax]

It's not funny it's serious.

[analog agate]

Wait. Berzerker or whatever his name was banned?

[gray juniper]

No, I hear you. It’s no laughing matter. This goon is for the most refined tastes

[blissful solar]

gooner blade is a way of life

oh wait uh
deadchat!!

[wraith sphinx]

clandestium gloriana auric maelstrom with a friend

obscurus fs really is nasty

[brazen rampart]

Idk about Baz but I know that SourGoat fella was.

[analog agate]

Oh. Hmm I don’t recall his name here

At least as a psyker main

[brazen rampart]

Well he was in the server for about 3 weeks before he got himself hammered.

[analog agate]

Oh nm. I looked up his name. I clearly remember him now

I was actually the instigator of the mods looking at him in this channel lol

[plucky flax]

[gray juniper]

Don’t shood!

Don’t worry agent. Feet posting is protected by the 10th amendment

[plucky flax]

Me getting ready to kill some heretics as the aribi-cop.

https://tenor.com/view/end-of-watch-mags-mag-clip-gangsta-gif-15813557333561958285

[gray juniper]

HE’S BLASPHEMING

For gun psyker using braced autogun; do you guys recommend mark agripinaa or vraks?

[strong gulch]

Don't use braced unless you really want to.

Vraks 5 IAG is the way.

[gray juniper]

Ok thanks on that. Unfortunately it’s this or the double barrel because i accidentally let go of a good recon lasgun

[marble crater]

Don't use braced unless you really want to.

[ripe obsidian]

What're the attack chains for armor vs horde?

[strong gulch]

H L L for single

and L H (idk if that is the whole chain) for horde

[wraith sphinx]

I just spammed l for hordes lmao

[strong gulch]

But the ✨ combo✨

[wraith sphinx]

I needed all the extra braincells for sit awareness

since it was clandestium gloriana

we had 2 normal one weakened boss just on the catwalk section

at once too

[strong gulch]

oh gloriana

forever cursed

[wraith sphinx]

auric mael too, and I got 0 deaths on it

felt divine

[strong gulch]

[summer prairie]

Hank mentioned auric is getting spawning/pacing increase over damnation

[strong gulch]

[wraith sphinx]

is high int modifier getting retired too or?

[strong gulch]

Hi int as a modifier makes sense for the regular mission board.

Auric tho?

[wraith sphinx]

I assume it's er, grandfathered into auric difficulty itself then

[summer prairie]

No idea, but auric will be harder than before

[strong gulch]

Seems like a good thing.

People have been asking for that for a long time.

[wraith sphinx]

looking forward to it!

[brazen rampart]

L1 h2 loop is for horde, yes.

Still works well for mixed horde too, assuming the elite you're aiming for is the first one you hit with your heavy.

[gray juniper]

I remember my first auric and aside from being overwhelmed obviously I wondered why the game actually functions like it’s expected too=true swarms

Lower difficulty should offer higher numbers of weak enemies while auric sends elites after you more

[vast yew]

Hello chaps
Haven't played in over 6 months; figured I should get back into with the bonky barky boys coming out. How's Psyker looking nowadays?

[plucky flax]

You're ready for havoc now.

If you can get comfortable in havoc auric become a cakewalk.

It trains you to not trade with chaffs at all.

[vast yew]

I see Chaos still hasn't put his YouTube channel in his Profile

[plucky flax]

Psyker is very good.

[vast yew]

Wooo

I've heard good things about the new Greatswords

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn strongest

Psyker is 2nd, but the difference between silver and bronze is big while the difference between gold and silver is small

[vast yew]

And by "new" i mean "came out end of last year"

[strong gulch]

Still newest weapon

FGS

[vast yew]

Is Fire Trauma still the best in the biz or is there some new hotness

[strong gulch]

it really good

Fire trauma still great

FGS biggest weakness is mobility.

[vast yew]

I see

Which staff would you pair it with then

Or does it just work on whatever

[strong gulch]

Any.

BUT trauma and purg like mobility more

and other melee have single target damage with better mobility

[vast yew]

I remember the DS4 and Deimos being king back in the day

though DS4 is getting some sort of tweak according to the recent blogs

[strong gulch]

That's the only time that I think FGS isn't the best option. Other than that, FGS does is all and is great for right side tree.

DS5 is getting a buff

[vast yew]

oh nice

hmmm right side tree makes me think Void staff or Gunker

[brazen rampart]

(psyker still has a higher skill ceiling)

[strong gulch]

For DS in general, there's been talks of nerfing it or reworkining it. Nothing happening right now tho.

[vast yew]

Oh wait Void got renamed right

to like Voidblast or Voidstrike or something

[strong gulch]

yes 😭

[vast yew]

I never remember the new names

[plucky flax]

Me ogre me spam left click and win

[brazen rampart]

Assuming the Chinese translation can be trusted, they're changing the special to a sort of a parry.

[strong gulch]

Trauma is voidblast now

[brazen rampart]

But, still, that's a leak, so, who knows.

🤷

[nocturne dust]

Yes, you require more skill to play psyker

Vet has an even higher skill ceiling

[brazen rampart]

I think you misunderstood what I meant.

And no, vets skill ceiling caps out at how well you can hit headshots.

[vast yew]

Hmm alright might try and cook up an Electro/Assail build to try out FGS later

[nocturne dust]

Das hawd

[brazen rampart]

Psyker has everything vet has to manage + peril.

And no golden toughness or stealth options.

[vast yew]

I wasn't a huge fan of Gaze back in the day

[brazen rampart]

Vet has the lowest skill ceiling.

[nocturne dust]

psyker doesn't have to aim

[brazen rampart]

With gunker and voidstrike, you do.

[nocturne dust]

Psyker also cares way less about enemy buildup due to infinite cleave

[nocturne dust]

I too can introduce difficulties for myself on purpose

[brazen rampart]

The point remains, highest skill ceiling of the four base classes.

[vast yew]

Oh right I also remember this channel constantly being on fire over whether Smite was good or not

Is that still contentious

[brazen rampart]

Smite is too good and we hate it.

Especially vet and zealout, because they have talents that require dodging. Can't dodge an enemy that's being fucking tased to death.

[vast yew]

Oh fascinating

[nocturne dust]

Smite is good and we hates it

[vast yew]

I remember it used to be kinda reviled becuase "why stun the enemies when you could just kill them with your staff instead"

and only really useful for Crusher packs

[brazen rampart]

Also, we hate it because it gives low skill players confidence they shouldn't have.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, that is still an issue

[vast yew]

Is it mostly used with EP to boost the damage or has the game just changed

[nocturne dust]

Trauma just does what smite does but better

buuuuuttt they're both OP, lol

[brazen rampart]

Trauma is going to get a target cap, mark my words.

It'll probably have a pecking order for what it hurts, though.

Specialists, then elites, then chaff.

[nocturne dust]

💀

If they nuke infinite cleave I'll just stop playing Havoc

[vast yew]

I seem to remember they lowered the AoE on it way back when

[brazen rampart]

Also, yeah, most smitekers stun chaff hordes instead of things they need to. Why stun chaff when you can use your melee or staff to mulch them?

[brazen rampart]

Sucks to be you. Infinite cleave is going to get kneecapped eventually.

[vast yew]

oh okay cool so seems like the general sentiment is still the same lol

[brazen rampart]

It'll hurt zealout too, if that's any consolation, because flamer.

[vast yew]

Is that one guy who wouldn't stfu about how broken smite was still around?

[brazen rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-24843255

[vast yew]

Kept posting his kill logs where 80% of his damage was Creeping Flames

Can't remember his name for the life of me

[plucky flax]

Sry it was me

[vast yew]

nah I found him, had to dig through logs

It was MazetheMaus

And he hasn't posted in like 2 months so I guess not

[plucky flax]

[vast yew]

Add your YouTube to your discord profile you coward

[plucky flax]

Why though?

[vast yew]

So I don't have to manually search for it everytime I remember it exists

[plucky flax]

Maybe something like AgentChaos darktide.

On youtube search bar. It should be there maybe.

[vast yew]

nah can't be

that's some guy who playes Bubble Knight

[plucky flax]

Oh tru

That's not me that's some pro.

Me noob and they taking sedition away from me.

[vast yew]

Wait they're taking Sedition away?

[plucky flax]

Yessir.

[vast yew]

0_0

[plucky flax]

Big sad news.

[vast yew]

F

[summer prairie]

how do I play arbites if I don't get my sedition suit

[vast yew]

Recon Lasgun
Did I miss something because that gun was bad back when I stopped playing

[strong gulch]

I hope solo mod will still have sedition. Putting DH rituals in them is funny.

[plucky flax]

Wut

[analog agate]

Fuck. Yes

[plucky flax]

It was bad?

Maybe way back.

But it received a buff a long time ago.

Increased damage and mag size across all the marks.

[solemn sapphire]

yeah- Recon Lasgun is absolutely terrifying with the right build

[vast yew]

I mean I haven't played in almost a year

[strong gulch]

Recon was buffed.

It's really good now.

[solemn sapphire]

crit machine Vet with recon lasgun is insane

[vast yew]

ooooo

I'll have to dig through my inventory and see if I have any old ones that are any good

[strong gulch]

That's the gun most are playing rn because of the easier aim, better ammo econ, and still decent monster damage

[brazen compass]

Wait 'til you try crit machine Psyker

[solemn sapphire]

would any of y'all mind taking a peek at this build I've made? just curious on some thoughts of if it's well built

[strong gulch]

They were renamed too

[plucky flax]

Sure.

[solemn sapphire]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f33c945-2321-4661-9f6d-8dfbec91da78/heretic-migraine

[marble crater]

Psyker chat loves telling people why their build is bad

[strong gulch]

Columnus is not the good one IAG anymore.

[vast yew]

oh goody.

[plucky flax]

It sucks.

[strong gulch]

It's still is but different name.

[plucky flax]

Don't use illisi with purga

[brazen compass]

It's now the Vrackstreet Boys

[plucky flax]

Remove warp splitting stuff.

[marble crater]

Blocked

[solemn sapphire]

glad I could cause psychic damage

[plucky flax]

Unless you just want to play that specific sword then sure.

[gray juniper]

That’s interesting

[brazen compass]

Typical UnsanctionedPsyker

[plucky flax]

But normally you'd want armour damage with your melee when pairing with burga.

[solemn sapphire]

good point tbh

[vast yew]

Doesn't Purga melt everything smaller than a Crusher as long as you remember to left click on ragers

At least I remember it doing so

Purga/Deimos used to be good times

[marble crater]

Yes

[gray juniper]

What’s the illisi combo against armor?

[analog agate]

Yeah. Illisi to either ds, deimos, or obscurus. And I very remain skeptical of that right side detour to get the cleave bonus when inferno had infinite

[vast yew]

Open Inventory -> Click on Illisi -> Click on "Marks" -> Click Deimos

[analog agate]

⬆️

[marble crater]

Switching to staff

[summer prairie]

most weapons you want to use with purg don't benefit from the cleave anyway

[strong gulch]

purg tho

[gray juniper]

I knwo it’s ineffective but if it’s used what is it?

[marble crater]

Go to the loadout menu and delete the loadout

[vast yew]

Well it's been a WHILE since I played but I think it's just spamming Heavy Attacks at the head and praying

[analog agate]

Have uncanny strike. Heavy attack

[vast yew]

I only used to use Illisi with Voidstrike

[strong gulch]

Now try with FGS

[vast yew]

Oh I also seem to remember them nuking the Surge build into the ground

no more True Aim + Surge giving double hadoukens per blast

What's the new Voidstrike build then

[gray juniper]

I attempted it yesterday and had some success on a mauler with stun

[strong gulch]

Yeah, illisi doesn't get much use and needs a buff. I use in on EK shriek spam, but I don't have it out often.

[analog agate]

It is the same I think. It just isn’t as good anymore

[gray juniper]

That uncanny must have helped a lot

[vast yew]

Well Surge only works on Primary attacks now, so did everyone switch to Nexus/Flurry or is it still Nexus/Surge

[analog agate]

Most still use nexus

And surge

[vast yew]

Interesting

[strong gulch]

That was only LMB spam build. Meta has been and continues to be RMB flurry nexus on surge / EK

OH

sorry

Yeah VS

surge nexus

[analog agate]

For staves it goes EK>VB>Inferno>>>>>>VS.

For non havoc

I may be biased against VS

[nocturne dust]

Maybe. Maybe not. I have no faith in Fatshark.

[vast yew]

Electro that high up huh? I'd heard Fire Trauma was still king of the hill, is that more for Havoc?

I haven't played Havoc yet so not sure exactly what's up with the meta there

[strong gulch]

Inferno/ purg and trauma / VB for havocs

[nocturne dust]

Fire Trauma is old meta

New meta is Rending Trauma

[vast yew]

Yeah but I asked and people said it was still top

[nocturne dust]

It is still very good

[analog agate]

EK can just be spammed so much with the introduction of empyric resolve. It just destroys any content outside of crushers and hordes. And then you just and shriek in.

Blaze VB is still super good

[nocturne dust]

Staves are just strong right now

[strong gulch]

EK/ surge great in auric.

[nocturne dust]

except Voidstrike

[vast yew]

Looks up Empyric Resolve
... oh so you LMB spam with Electro. That's funky

[analog agate]

It is. Dead is talking about havoc

No

[nocturne dust]

No, that's Empyric Shock

[static sonnet]

Poor thing used to be top dog didn't it?

[nocturne dust]

Wrong node

[plucky flax]

Hmm I played rending trauma with a team of 3 ogryns last week and I wished I had blaze trauma.

[vast yew]

... my google-fu needs work

[nocturne dust]

A long, long time ago...

It's RMB spam with every staff

[analog agate]

Cause Dead is wrong 😐

[plucky flax]

But if there's another psyker on team then I prefer to play rending over blaze cos 99% of psykers in havoc run burga.

[nocturne dust]

I'm not, it depends

[plucky flax]

I thought cos 3 ogryns if i use rending I'll help them kill big guys faster.

But it gimped my damage so hard.

[vast yew]

Oh okay so Empyric Resolve is massive -Peril generation

[nocturne dust]

yes

[vast yew]

Actually Imma stop beating around the bush; you got an example Electro havoc build that I can look at?

[plucky flax]

Ye

[strong gulch]

2nd pin

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't gimp my damage that hard. Maybe it's just cuz the ogryns can use it so well they can steal more of it, lol

[analog agate]

I mean. Depends in if you have an inferno user or spam flamer zealot. But I have never qualified best staff build based on the possibility of other builds present

[strong gulch]

They assume non-havoc

[analog agate]

He said Havoc though

[plucky flax]

This is havoc specific. I only did like 1.1 mil damage that's pretty poor for psyker in a 32 mins game or so.

[strong gulch]

EK havoc?

[nocturne dust]

I think rending trauma is still better because it boosts team damage and is comparable to fire trauma in damage in Havoc due to densities.

[nocturne dust]

That's low for rending

[plucky flax]

Okay 1240k damage in 33 mins. Pretty poor performance by my standard.

[vast yew]

Okay the EK build that's pinned is just ye olde Smite/Shriek build, so looks like that's a good starting place for me to get back into the swing of things

[nocturne dust]

Maybe good Oggies stealing your damage better than pubs stealing my damage?

[analog agate]

While the pinned build is for non havoc. For EK it is the same build. Cause EK only functions well with shriek. Having bubble really neuters it. And if you are using Scriers then at that point you are doing more of a melee build and not EK

[vast yew]

👍

[plucky flax]

Last time I played blaze trauma I did 2 mil in 36 mins.

[vast yew]

Think I'll get my teeth whet before I dive into Havoc

[analog agate]

Yeah, but I replied to him saying the build is the same in this case

[plucky flax]

Yeah maybe with 3 ogryns they just kill stuff too fast.

And rending kill horde worse than blaze by far.

[nocturne dust]

true, but infinite cleave don't care

just find a doorway and let it rip

[summer canopy]

using assail rn cuz of another one but lets just say its not going well since it takes 2 or 3 knives to kill shit

[analog agate]

Yeah. I still do blaze VB build is lone pub psyker. Rending if with inferno psyker. And inferno psyker if I am with good players

[nocturne dust]

I dunno, I kinda feel useless on inferno with 3 good oggies now even in Havoc

[plucky flax]

Bubble knight the best.

[analog agate]

Well, oggy is good

[analog agate]

I tried it. Just not my playstyle

[nocturne dust]

Well yeah, but I'm saying good players make me feel less like taking Inferno, lol

[plucky flax]

Only really pro players can play it dw.

[analog agate]

Oh. By good players I should clarify. Good players means people who don’t fucking crumble and shiver in a corner when armor/bulwarks come and then leave me by myself

[summer canopy]

bubble knight?

[plucky flax]

Maybe I do a bubble knight before bed.

[plucky flax]

FGS build for havoc.

Mostly melee.

Big damage and ultra squishy.

[nocturne dust]

Can't be abandoned if you are the one abandoning

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-reece-simpson-kayode-ewumi-roll-safe-meme-gif-17305682

[analog agate]

Recently I have just been vibing in maelstroms honestly

[ripe obsidian]

I carried a Maelstrom as bubble knight the other day. Was a pair of new level 30s and an Ogryn who was having an off day

[plucky flax]

2 psykers game. Other dude was burga. I also killed way more specials than the vet lol

1.2mil melee damage hits different.

[analog agate]

Yeah. Maels are a carrying simulation atm. But I prefer that over the arduousness of havoc 40s

[ripe obsidian]

I'd say personal skill plays a role in that.

[plucky flax]

My pc is weird I have stutter in maelstrom but smooth in havoc.

[analog agate]

I haven’t had stutter in a while now

[plucky flax]

Do you use transformer model?

[analog agate]

I can’t remember. It is the one it defaulted to when they made it so you can use the two different kinds. So, presumably the newer one

I am work so can’t tell you atm

[plucky flax]

Aye

Maybe you have less mods.

Is why

[analog agate]

Uhhhh. Maybe a few. But I have a lot haha. Not spidey sense I know that you have

I also don’t use weapon customization. That thing just caused nothing but headaches for me

[plucky flax]

Yeah that mod is really performance heavy.

[ripe obsidian]

Customization and PowerDI ruined my performance. Had to turn them both off

[analog agate]

I really wish he continued with ovenproof

[modest perch]

it still works

[sturdy reef]

How long was this game tho lol

[analog agate]

Ya but I am too lazy to add shit to the code to get rid of the pink

I want me to do nothing. Spoiled

[modest perch]

i get it

[vast yew]

Okay I'm going through the pinned builds and I'm seeing a lot of them say that Mettle got nerfed and isn't worth it on most builds now?

[plucky flax]

43 mins

[modest perch]

but no one uses smaul

even when i was on all the time id get the pink error text like once a week

[plucky flax]

The pink?

[modest perch]

ovenproof spams pink error text when someone uses the taser

[ripe obsidian]

It is known

[plucky flax]

I can send you my scoreboard and ovenproof addon mod folders.

I have the fix and what not.

[analog agate]

I’ll hit you up after Monday if they still work

[sturdy reef]

The fix is on the nexus posts page for the mod

[analog agate]

I will look at it. I haven’t looked at the nexus thing in months

[nocturne dust]

Mettle was nerfed, yeah. Still better than warp expenditure

Mettle only stands out on gunker builds where they just spew crits everywhere

[analog agate]

Mettle used to make you even more invincible with VB that you are now

It was insane

[vast yew]

interesting
So seems like Souldrinker is replacement on builds that heavily utilize Soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

no

Souldrinker is trash

[summer canopy]

whats the best blitz to finish this penance?

[nocturne dust]

Soulstealer is the toughness provider

[prime elk]

assail

[analog agate]

Are you looking at our pinned builds? Or Gamelanterns?

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker has wonky proccing outside of self-hosting (so psykhanium won't show it) and also doesn't refresh the buff it provides

[summer canopy]

thats what im using rn but its kindof a pain when it takes 2 or 3 shards to kill smth

[prime elk]

it'll come quickly enough, since you can get 3 charges

and assail loves shotgunner/gunner hordes

[vast yew]

Yours

I may have misread it again

[analog agate]

Gotcha. Yeah, soul drinker ain’t worth it

[sturdy reef]

souldrinker is out of the way anyway

[vast yew]

okay yeah Soulstealer, not Soul drinker

D'oh

Well taking Mettle off the pinned Trauma build leaves me with 2 points extra

[nocturne dust]

2?

You generally still want to grab perfect timing

[vast yew]

Ah

So less "Mettle was nerfed, don't use it" and more "Mettle was nerfed, so grab Soulstealer extra"

[nocturne dust]

The pinned builds have images, bro

[nocturne dust]

ye

[vast yew]

Yeah I know but they're 3 months old, so I was using the image and then removing PT + Mettle

And assuming the edit was more recent

[nocturne dust]

The post is unedited

The ones that are, you can check when they were last edited

As it stands, the images are still golden

[vast yew]

👍

[strong gulch]

Use ek RMB to kill and never use your blitz. EK RMB doesn't use EP stacks but counts for the kills. IDK if you have to have smite or not. If it doesn't work without smite, then pick that for your blitz.

[summer canopy]

EK rmb?

[strong gulch]

EK staff electro attack

[summer canopy]

oh it counts?

thought it only applied to blitz

[analog agate]

They are coded the same. Or were

[strong gulch]

It does. EK RMB is staff bound smite and is weird with the code.

[summer canopy]

welp

can u link me an EK staff build rq?

[strong gulch]

2nd pin. Might need to swap BB to smite tho. (ALSO TAKE EP)

IDK if it works without smite being the blitz.

[strong gulch]

Feck it. Could take this with EK and FGS

[summer canopy]

noted

gonna have to switch the aura and ability tho cuz doing the shield penance/special penance

[strong gulch]

There were enough deviations that I should just slap it together. lmao

EK struggles without shriek

[summer canopy]

ah rq whats the dump stat for EK

resistance again?

[strong gulch]

yes

WR

[summer canopy]

ew

fucking unusable

[strong gulch]

BUT I also support penance maxxing and if you have FGS, it can only be so bad.

[summer canopy]

im just using the DS

[strong gulch]

Elite aura does help EK when you don't have shriek tho.

[summer canopy]

alr this is better

[strong gulch]

Shirek is EK horde clear. You may stuggle if you are taking 2 single target weapons and bubble.

[summer canopy]

ah u meant that

hmhhhh

how do u even use FGS again?

tried it once but then again I had forgotten special attacks were a thing at that time

[strong gulch]

lights for horde and heavies for armor

[summer canopy]

so hu quick question

[strong gulch]

in aruic 1 charge clears chaff and 2 clears elites

[summer canopy]

cuz I know higher warp is technically better

[strong gulch]

with smol buffs

[summer canopy]

do I want to keep upgrading this???

[strong gulch]

FGS or ek?

[summer canopy]

EK

and dump for FGS is one again res?

[strong gulch]

Keep upgrading. 24 is low even for shriek maxxing. 40 is fine but 60 is also fine

[summer canopy]

I mean I can get it to 60

just figured that since high peril is good cuz of other buffs id want the lowest

do I just max it out then?

[strong gulch]

You could just keep it can craft another

[summer canopy]

lazy

[strong gulch]

Then max

[summer canopy]

what mark for the fgs?

[strong gulch]

It's personal pref.

FGS8 has slightly faster lights and easier horde clear.

FGS6 has easier access to the big upper stab that isn't tied to PA and peril

[summer canopy]

alr then although is there an updated psyker guide because like half the stuff on the steam one says outdated

[strong gulch]

That's what we got plus here.

There are some WIP but they are not published.

[summer canopy]

oof

what perks for the ek/fgs then

[normal radish]

I took a look at it and I have questions
Mainly about why Blazing Spirit on the Force Greatsword is D tier

[plucky flax]

Because it already kills everything.

[strong gulch]

Ek is in the builds pin along with the other staves.

For now ek is flak + maniac or unyeilding with flurry + nexus (maniac for specials or unyielding for ogryns and monsters)

FGS is cara + unyeilding with unstable, crit blessings, wrath etc all being good. All are good or decent except warp slice, blazing spirit, and murderour tranq.

[worldly elm]

Ive been enjoying shred and wrath on the FGS with scriers

Turns you in to a woodchipper

Anyything on your screen is now mulch

And if its not mulch, then PA+Heavy will turn it to mulch

[summer canopy]

yup seems like EK counts

[worldly elm]

Whats the best way to go about doing the Warp Battery pennance (have max warp charges for 120 seconds)

[summer canopy]

I did it with the dueling saber and inferno staff in a priv

use inferno on hordes for the 10% and the saber to kill maulers and sht

youc an also prob use assail to clear up a lot

and get gunners

but I was using brain crush

(plus grab the perk that makes teammate kills have a 4% proc chance)

[brazen rampart]

Don't use your ability, use a melee that oneshots elites (ds, 1h fs, fgs), pray to the Emperor. Kinetic flayer node on brain burst helps in a pinch because of it being consistent now.

[weak sierra]

literally just don't use your ability until you get it

no need to do anything else

[analog agate]

You are right. Definitely should be F tier

[weak sierra]

blazing spirit is only useful with very specific builds and playstyles

[tame agate]

So warp resistance dump stat for inferno force staff. I have one that has 7% and everything else above 70. Do i need to upgrade it any?

[summer marsh]

Playing darts with beloved

🎯

[weak sierra]

dump stat just means it's the least important stat
upgrade it to full power as soon as possible

[analog agate]

Burn needs to be >76

[worldly elm]

Does flame staff kills count as souldblaze for the purposes of In Fire Reborn?

[analog agate]

Yes

[worldly elm]

As in the direct damage from the primary and secondary, not the lingering damage

[worldly elm]

Dope

Just noticed the pennance is only 120s in a session, not 120 consecutive seconds in a session

Thats a lot simpler lol

[tame agate]

I already have a few extras that are maxxed out where WR is 60. Just thought having it lower may be even better

[weary crane]

Any unit affected by soulblaze that dies counts towards it

[summer canopy]

no it is indeed consecutive

atleast as far as I tested because I got that penance yesterday

[worldly elm]

I just got it either way

Accidently got Going Out With a Bang too

[pine shore]

Good for havoc?

https://i.vgy.me/PQ07PT.png

Or do I change anything

Planning on taking it with rending trauma

[analog agate]

Uncanny replace one of the blessings. Even if you have rending

[pine shore]

do I really need uncanny that much?

At worst I'll be using it to kill a couple crushers or a mutie/dog

I guess in that case I also don't need slaughterer

[analog agate]

Which level of havoc are you playing? Saying a “couple” of crushers is not representative of h40

[pine shore]

Plans for h40 obv

but I really do mean a couple

I have rending trauma

I'll be killing most with that

[analog agate]

If you have the money. Get one with dump as warp res. Blessings are cara/unyielding. blessings uncanny and whatever you want

[pine shore]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

https://i.vgy.me/LWAcbX.png

I've never seen a force sword this good

Does it get better?

[analog agate]

Looks good. I would upgrade the mobility to 80. You will never use the special so warp res number doesn’t matter at all

[pine shore]

I'll leave it at 14%

[analog agate]

Ok

[pine shore]

It's an insanely rare roll

I'd rather get another one

[upper sun]

whos up for 1-2 games?

[jovial juniper]

I can play a bit

[upper sun]

join

[unborn stag]

[upper sun]

@jovial juniper dawg

[fringe sapphire]

dont really know about the perks the blessings feel good tho

[upper sun]

nah theyre fine

[brazen rampart]

You can safely swap flak to unyielding for a bulwark oneshot breakpoint with your push attack.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Me

[upper sun]

no

[jovial juniper]

[upper sun]

that guy

[brazen rampart]

Flak does not change breakpoints against either elites or bucketheads, afaik.

[upper sun]

i got him talking about his family

lmao

i need to stop yapping in game

[jovial juniper]

[upper sun]

join game

US east

[brazen rampart]

But then I'd have to get up and boot game.

[proper osprey]

I do flak unyielding but that’s good

[brazen rampart]

And Im gonna mog the fuck out of you, Clad.

[jovial juniper]

Poor guy probably felt old as well

[proper osprey]

Clad

[upper sun]

prolly

im lagging

[proper osprey]

I’d never mog you

[upper sun]

and sleepy

[proper osprey]

Cuz I’m so nice

Kiss me

[upper sun]

mwah

[brazen rampart]

Clad on the best of days is still worse than Frog on the worst of days. (only because Clad mains ogryn)

[jovial juniper]

Ok I think I got one more game in me

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[upper sun]

u have 4 minutes until archivum sux dies

yeah 4 minutes hurry up

@brazen rampartu alive?

[lusty apex]

https://i.imgur.com/g2Hdmc2.png

[upper sun]

double chorus voc 🚬

[lusty apex]

anyone know if this is 50%

[upper sun]

yeeah its 50

[lusty apex]

50 percent right

[stark crown]

yeah its 50%

[lusty apex]

ah cheers

[stark crown]

fun fact back in the day I think you had to do 75%-90%?

[lusty apex]

whats the best way to do thi?

[stark crown]

somewhere between those two

[lusty apex]

just solo on heresy?

[stark crown]

Load up with a friend in a private match

[upper sun]

no has to be a private game

[stark crown]

and just solo the boss

[lusty apex]

ah cool

i gotta finish the mission right?

[summer canopy]

no not really

[stark crown]

Iirc no

[lusty apex]

cool

[summer canopy]

u can just let them kill you to be sure

but im p sure u can just leave

idk I just let em kill me cuz why not

[ripe obsidian]

90%

[stark crown]

Yeah that shit was miserable

[ripe obsidian]

It was.

I did it in a duo, praying the bots wouldn't get in the way. Fortunately, they died from a burster or something just before the boss

[summer canopy]

welp im done with psyker penances

except for shield which has to take around 38k more dmg and elite aura but eh those will finish themselves across the 67 games I gotta play

whats a good psyker havoc build?

[ripe obsidian]

Meta is purgatus or trauma.

EK is also good.

[summer canopy]

purgatus?

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is not good.

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1316462732999921735/elmopsyker.gif

[summer canopy]

ah the fire staff

[ripe obsidian]

Old name for it is purgatus.

Better name, imo

[summer canopy]

is there a build for it I can steal?

although gonna have to edit it anyways to fit these penances prob

nvm just saw

[ripe obsidian]

I do not think those are havoc-specific builds, as they don't appear to use the bubble

Oh, it says in there to swap to bubble. Fair enough

This is what I use.

[summer canopy]

gonna steal this then, just gotta swap the aura

[ripe obsidian]

Feel free to modify it however you want. I played with a few different versions, but this is the one that performs best. For me, at least

[summer canopy]

ye ik the middle aura is generally the best gotta switch it cuz of penances

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not really great at theorycrafting/builds tbh. I mostly follow what smarter people determine to be meta. I'll sometimes poke it around a bit, but eh. I'm gonna have a hell of a time with Arbites and its massive tree

[analog agate]

Cole’s build

[analog agate]

Kerfus build

Notice a pattern. Fuck the dog

[ripe obsidian]

Poor doggo

I guess the left keystone is if you have the doggo

[vast yew]

from what I've seen, if you keep the doggo you just skip the middle keystone

[upper sun]

@jovial juniper the zealots did not use chorus except once

until i asked about the cd

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

Now that you mention it

[upper sun]

i was counting

1 time each until the stairs

[ripe obsidian]

Chorus is a crutch. Get good

[upper sun]

they kept going down

[jovial juniper]

Barrels and bursters throwing people left and right

😭

[gray juniper]

I like using it to be different

[gray juniper]

What are you talking about? What mode was thisv

[ocean tusk]

I have now found my goal for Psyker
This... will take a while, especially with Arbites taking up 99% of my time once they release X3

[ripe obsidian]

Get to zapping

[unborn stag]

**Attention witch fodder, especially the Loner Psykers, you are ordered to board the black ships, post haste. We need at least 10,000 for today's tithe. Bare minimum.

This is not a choice. Sacrifice yourselves for the Emperor, the Imperium and humanity!!**

[lone ravine]

erm..... nuh uh

[worldly elm]

Sounds like something a witch would say. You're not trying to avoid tithe, are you?

[deft stump]

I have kraks with your name on it if you are planning on taking my friends away.

[gray juniper]

That’s like my second choice after the purple one in the top for my main. Love the look

[unborn stag]

Lies, slander and heresy!

Now onto the ship with you!

breaks Psyker's kneecaps

[unborn stag]

Too late!

[deft stump]

Naw, ppl can be healed. Well, unless you eat enough kraks to no longer exist. And guess what I have, unlimited krak works.

[worldly elm]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-oh-yeah-thats-it-gif-18276676

[narrow herald]

im actually shocked how accurate it looks 💀

[analog agate]

I am actually going to get that insignia now if Mortis isn’t boring

[feral nexus]

Arbitrate deez nuts

I got a shit you can carry on dem black ships to the emprah if ya want, gotta be worth atleast a couple psykers, @unborn stag

[unborn stag]

[unborn stag]

Yeah most Psykers are indeed just comparable to shit. Lol

Here's a medal for your humor, Ogryn. Plus some extra rations.

Truly based

[gray juniper]

That’s what’s up

[gray juniper]

Sir, the “bounce on it” room is that way 👉

[unborn stag]

Oh.. I never heard about that one. Context? Sorry Lol xD

[deft stump]

He's telling you to go elsewhere to wank. Nobody like roleplay bullies tbh.

[unborn stag]

I'll give you a medal anyways, my fault for not getting it..

[feral nexus]

[unborn stag]

[feral nexus]

Listen, we love our little spark'ead brothers and sisters. We all pull our weight to help humanity

Always have always will, simple as

[deft stump]

Well, there's that place two rooms down where you can circlejerk with other Arbites mains. Thus.

[unborn stag]

That's not true, it's called having a sense of humor, but I'll stop if it's that big of a deal to some of y'all. Didn't know y'all were taking it personally..

Geez

Heh

[analog agate]

Definitely fine to do it once in a while as long as your sole interaction here isn’t just role playing imo

But yeah. Coming here just to role play would be better suited to another channel

[unborn stag]

Never had an issue before.

[gray juniper]

Btw it was ok to me. I know what you’re doing

[unborn stag]

Probably just had a bad day IRL, so I understand.

[gray juniper]

No harm no foul

[unborn stag]

[gray juniper]

And one more thing

Go Arbites deez nuts

[feral nexus]

I think Karien just didnt want it to get out of hand

Sometimes these things do

[gray juniper]

She’s sweet. Probably just felt the need to stand up for people. Nobody in the wrong here

[feral nexus]

As long as we all know that everyone playing any class are friends

And not food

All is good

[unborn stag]

Yeah I was just memeing roleplaying joking around if anything etc. If it's annoying... I get it, but it's funny to me personally and some people appreciate my humor. Lol can't help it sometimes. I don't wanna send people to the black ships IRL (for now). So I was confused by the negative reactions but hey I get it. I'll chill out. Lol

[feral nexus]

Perhaps some people did it way back and it got out of hand? Is that why you wanted to put the kibosh on it quickly? @deft stump?

[unborn stag]

Like taking it personally through me off a bit. Like they think they're a actual Psyker IRL who's about to be yeeted. My roleplaying probably came off too strong to the point where my acting almost felt "real" I guess? Sorry about that.

[gray juniper]

The mic picture gave me the idea you were

[unborn stag]

I like to roleplay for fun and to joke meme around. Lol

[unborn stag]

Rations*

[deft stump]

You know kraks and ammo crates aren't... Ughz, nvm...

[gray juniper]

Nah she uses the vet lmao

[feral nexus]

I just meant cause i started sayin im gonna eat @wooden sand

Sometimes us ogryn get a little too hungry and everyone else starts lookin like a snack

Always keep your ogryn friends full

[unborn stag]

Yeah, no need to go into details. I remember the roleplayers on some WW2 games who weren't just roleplaying and I'll leave it at that. Lol

[feral nexus]

Jeez

Sometimes it kinda be like that here when some people come in here

[wooden sand]

[unborn stag]

Oh Lol

[feral nexus]

Few people gotten banned recently and junk, new random people

[unborn stag]

[gray juniper]

I got muted on hell let loose for dark jokes

[deft stump]

Fluffy-thing is not food as well.

[feral nexus]

Not yet anyway

[gray juniper]

It was said people are freakier here than other classes

[summer canopy]

which mission is faster

orthus offensive with bellskip or train

[gray juniper]

So… was Hadron’s mechussy discussed? That’s probably a good baseline

[loud girder]

Train

With people who know what they're doing it's fast and smooth

[deft stump]

Train is guaranteed if this is the Zealot penance.

[summer canopy]

no

its for the "play 100 games with psyker" one

[deft stump]

Then depends on how fast your team is at rushing train or doing the boss.

Fast train is like 6 mins.

[feral nexus]

Nah, dats zealot chat

[gray juniper]

That gives me an idea about cliffhanger

[deft stump]

Do not ask why I know. 32 train runs in one day trauma.

[scarlet path]

how good is the blaze for great sword? and if i am sure I want to use a staff which is better

[gray juniper]

It’s always on the board

[summer canopy]

did u do that for the 100 games or why

[gray juniper]

Devs proud as hell of their new mission

[summer canopy]

uhm

blaze greatsword and staves

use different slots

[scarlet path]

yes

[deft stump]

50 missions on train.

I still need to do the gloriana one.

I refuse to because extra trauma.

[static sonnet]

Every staff except void strike is meta, with EK and Flame being the top two

[summer canopy]

i ran orthus offensive for 3 days straight to power level all weapons and will have to repeat that bullshit on the 23rd

pain

[analog agate]

In reality not true. The person Frog was talking about was actually a zealot chat player. The only person here who partook was Karien who isn’t even a psyker player. Chaos jokes around about gooning but he also doesn’t partake.

It really is zealot players who (or did) annoy the shit out of us with their kinks

[deft stump]

I just waved 3 mil dockets at oggy the last time.

[unborn stag]

Lol it do be like that

[summer canopy]

well I still have around 4 or 5 games left before I have to do train grind

[deft stump]

Oh, I know the limits. If you mean the yuri things.

[unborn stag]

@deft stump so your veteran main? I guess you into the Mobian 6th stuffs or? Only way I see em adding playable Chaos is through a PvP versus mode. Unless they do a Lighttide. Lol

[deft stump]

I'm not stupid enought to actually link NSFW.

[analog agate]

I am just happy zealot players went back to their chat and the slowdown is gone

[deft stump]

No, Chaos main if anything. Sister of Slaanesh was my old char.

[lusty apex]

im doing this one too , i started at 0/2500 this morning lmao at 1500 rn

[deft stump]

She's more about offering ppl left behind to die a place on her world ship nowadays. Actual comforts on the equiv of a pleasure ship.

[lusty apex]

https://i.imgur.com/ljjkZCD.png any tips to speed this one up?

[deft stump]

My vet's a gremlin into yuri (I mean, I am so...). Offers ppl instant noodles over the weird paste as she calls it.

[lusty apex]

does this proc it https://i.imgur.com/ZYfyAQw.png

for the achievment

[deft stump]

The kraks is more of a joke, I don't even really use them in the game that much... but explains why I have so many around. Oggies love eating them like candy though so...

[deft stump]

You could do it while train grinding. It's just an aura.

Or try mercantile kitchen for inf spawns.

[analog agate]

Yes. Use this build

[deft stump]

I could show you if need be. Used it for the more annoying grinds like crabwalk simulator.

[lusty apex]

cheers i gotta use warp siphon to farm the acheivment but will use this as a base

[analog agate]

Ohhhh yeah my bad

[lusty apex]

nah this build looks good tho

❤️

[analog agate]

That is a penance feom the old days haha

[lusty apex]

yeaaaah

finalyl catching up on them

ah another question

does infero staff apply actual soul blaze for procs?

lik its soulblaze not just burn stacks?

[analog agate]

Yes

[lusty apex]

cool

[analog agate]

All soulblaze

[lusty apex]

thanks

[gray juniper]

You can try mine also if want. It’s built specifically for using brain burst functionally for defense/offense and often using it

Once you off a few elites it activates the speed. From there start back line playing the next horde and brain burst many as you can. You should get several elites in one go

[summer canopy]

or I could spam train at difficulty 1 for it to be faster

[wispy bay]

Do mortis trial, get the BB applied to 10 enemies around the target. Boom and done.

[deft stump]

I mean, 6 mins run.

[deft stump]

Does not work.

Only main target counts sadly.

[wispy bay]

Does it?

Well, you can still spam the ability to use the BB upgrade.

[deft stump]

Also doesn't count for the 20 headshots in a row thing.

Only the initial kill is counted.

[gray juniper]

Oh never mind. Something like my main build is better for that then. Potato and another guy helped tweak this yesterday for peak performance

[wispy bay]

I don't see how this build benefits specially for BB, other than a very generic build.

[gray juniper]

I screwed up and didn’t scroll the chat far enough

[unborn stag]

Oh.. the big no no faction. Yeah good luck with any devs trying to incorporate that faction into a video properly, let alone a good quality developed game that's fun etc. My condolences, but you could always just head canon with Rouge Trader and there's always table top plus mods on some PC Warhammer 40k games. So there's that.

[wispy bay]

I remember somebody reported that it works earlier on. Oh well...

[analog agate]

He needs to do it with warp charges is why. So EP is out

[wispy bay]

Yes, I meant what I meant.

[deft stump]

I know. I mean, I made a Chaos Sister before those existed in canon. Needed a GM willing to allow that first even. It did happen so yeah. I tend to like "illegal" characters tbh.

[gray juniper]

Scrolled back again and I sent the same picture twice anyway. Wow lol

[wispy bay]

Getting the other BB upgrade by removing the 6 warp charges will increase BB output significantly.

4 warp charges without upgrade is still the max charge.

[gray juniper]

Someone needs to confirm that you can do it with only four instead of six

It’s certain that it counts like that?

[deft stump]

It's maxed.

[analog agate]

I am of no help. I did it when the game came out

[deft stump]

I did it with 6 though, so can't confirm.

[gray juniper]

I did it with six which apparently isn’t smart if that’s true

Hopefully it’s four because that obviously saves a lot of time

[deft stump]

Mostly since I got it doing some other penances... >_>

[summer canopy]

well

yes

I did it with 4

why wouldnt it work???????????

its literally the base max

[wispy bay]

I did it with 4.

[summer canopy]

plus theres a video showing off strats to cheese it

and they do it with 4

[wispy bay]

The same thing for Marksman Focus on Vet, you don't take the 15 stack upgrade.

[deft stump]

You take crouchfest for mercantile grind.

[wispy bay]

Because anything below 15 is now not max.

[wispy bay]

Crab walk...

[gray juniper]

Because it’s depends how the developers want to define max in that instance. They could be the “no, they’re gonna grind for this” type and only apply to six stacks or keep it simplified and make it work at four stacks

[deft stump]

Yes, crabwalk sim.

[wispy bay]

The penance is on the keystone, not keystone upgrade.

[deft stump]

Could also be anything above 4.

[gray juniper]

Ahhhhhhhh. I am enlightened

[deft stump]

Depends on how it's coded.

[wispy bay]

In fact no penance on keystone requires you to use any of the upgrades.

[gray juniper]

If someone has done it with four that tells us it’s requirements

[deft stump]

Which is why HH broke when they increased it. It was set to hard 5 instead of max.

[wispy bay]

Nope, if you take the 6 upgrade... You need 6...

[deft stump]

Yes, but is more how they coded the penance. The HH one was done with a fixed 5, so it only worked if you have 5 stacks and not maxed stacks.

They already fixed it, but you know.

[summer canopy]

HH?

[wispy bay]

Karien, let it go. Your jelly brain isn't made for this.

[gray juniper]

I started this game as a lone rogue psyker and you see it shows 🤓

[deft stump]

Heavy hitter penance. Oggy thing.

[summer canopy]

ah

[lusty apex]

def max stacks btw

was 4 siphon stacks

https://i.imgur.com/N1aUhp1.png

one match nearly done from 56 before the mission

thanks for the help

its really odd you have to keep the stacks so you cant really use ur ability

[wispy bay]

You regain stack very quickly though.

Especially with KF.

[lusty apex]

yeah didnt stop me much

[deft stump]

Because they provide bonuses as well from memory. But then again, I use it with EK for a low peril funni thing.

[lusty apex]

blaze stacks on kill helps

im jsut using it for farming the penance

[wispy bay]

Im a Vet main, and Vet penances have way more shenanigans that I'm conditioned to it.

[gray juniper]

Nice

[summer canopy]

honestly psyker penances are def the easiest

ogryns seem annoying tho

theyre all basicaly

"hit a big horde with this specific shit 25 times"

then again havent gotten to ogryn yet just got one to lvl 30

[deft stump]

Missing zeros.

XD

[wispy bay]

Like I got the From Overwatch after the 5th try in a row, and got it by fodder right at the start,no hp damage, but I didn't notice and thought that I failed. Went mad and speed ran through the game... Then the fucking penance pop up...

I did not spam VoC to protect myself in that run. I was my rage cry.

[deft stump]

Foaming rage helps, you Khornate now? Flees.

[strong gulch]

smite trauma bubble but it's ep smite and lmb spam

[strong gulch]

@upper sun @marble crater Oggy level 30.

I was deemed not the traitor.

[ripe obsidian]

Congratulations. You are a loyalist.

[deft stump]

They made a mistake in my case. I'm only helping because I hate Nurglites. Flees.

[wind plaza]

What are good psyker curios?

[delicate dove]

Usually just go with 2 with toughness, 1 with health, pysker is very reliant on toughness. Then maybe resistance to any enemies that can give you grief, like gunners

[wind plaza]

i've been seeing 1 stam and 2 tough

[plucky flax]

Stamina on psyker

[strong gulch]

Inspect operative?? You mean his armpit?

[delicate dove]

So I'm not crazy, lol

[wind plaza]

thats what I thought. seemed wrong.

[plucky flax]

If i can play melee psyker without stamina in h40 then the class clearly doesn't need any extra

[wind plaza]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[deft stump]

You either go 3 toughness or 2 toughness and 1 HP. I have 3 stam because I am just doing memes.

[plucky flax]

Just pick kd and call it a day

[plucky flax]

You play 3 stams as normal build?

[deft stump]

WELL, I play my old MM build as normal, yes.

XD

[wind plaza]

right now I got Gun Resist, Cooldown, toughness as the perks

[deft stump]

Look, As long as everything is up... My peril takes nearly no damage.

Even a DH only does 1.5% peril every 4 hits.

[plucky flax]

Tbh I never see you on psyker anyway

[delicate dove]

Sounds fine, though I've flip flopped keeping the cool down reduction since I use warp charges and shriek, which is already low cooldown

[plucky flax]

I run 3x cdr for creeping flames maxxing

[deft stump]

Because I like playing Vet and just hate how left behind they are?

Zealot is just easiest for me on H40.

[plucky flax]

Nah its fine

[wind plaza]

im using scryers gaze assail build

[plucky flax]

I played vet yesterday in havoc

[delicate dove]

Those juicy 4 seconds

[plucky flax]

Easy 2 mil damage with bistol nade spam

[deft stump]

Oggy is the class I use to help ppl or solo and pray no BoN.

[plucky flax]

Vet tree sucks but it's stronger than zealot in term of damage anyway with more support

[wind plaza]

i've ranted about this before but I hate how zealot railroads you into using throwing klnives

[delicate dove]

Up to you which you prefer, but can never go wrong with an extra 5% health/toughness

[wind plaza]

CDR is handy though. I want to spam scryers gaze as much as I can

[plucky flax]

For gaze then no need for cdr.

[wind plaza]

what about Dome?

[delicate dove]

Dome has longer cooldown, so I'd say more value

[wind plaza]

alright. I'll have to get more curios then

more plasteel

gotta go back in the mines and farm

[plucky flax]

Id go cdr but if youre not playing havoc no need

The bubble in non havoc is mostly for vibe

[wind plaza]

id rather do havoc curios because it works fine on aurics as well

[delicate dove]

It's the vibe zone

[plucky flax]

Okay fair.

[wind plaza]

but In pubs I cant rely on vets to kill ranged so I just keep getting shot up without bubble

[ripe obsidian]

Some mix of CDR, gunner resist, toughness, and HP

[lusty apex]

https://i.imgur.com/uRyYi4s.png

we did it lads

[plucky flax]

Most vet players have really bad target priority

[lusty apex]

finally

[wind plaza]

so fucking frustrating. So true

[plucky flax]

They shoot horde rather than range units or specials lol

[lusty apex]

thanks for all the help

[plucky flax]

And waste all the ammo on melee crap for whatever reason

Even in h40

[wind plaza]

Stop shooting the maulers when 2 ogryns are staggering them and curb stomping them on the ground AAAAAARGH

[delicate dove]

60/60 vision

[ripe obsidian]

It is how I lose many games. The specials just get too numerous.

[wind plaza]

And the reverse happens when you play vet. All the zealots and ogryns just let you get gangbanged by the horde and then complain you dont shoot specials

[unborn stag]

drags Psyker to the black ships

[plucky flax]

Ye i killed so many specials yesterday playing vet

[wind plaza]

isnt one of the psyker voices a cop? They would get along well with the Arbites

[plucky flax]

Me pro

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think I am good enough with Vet or Ogryn for H40. I've done it with Zealot, FotF and book, and trauma/purg psyker. Not sure what else.

[plucky flax]

Ogryn easy. Throw rocks and spam left click on basher club

[wind plaza]

my issue is I cant find an australian group to play with. I aint playing havoc 40 on 250 to 300 ping

[plucky flax]

Very chill gaming

[delicate dove]

Maybe, it kinda sounds like the savant was betrayed or left on bad terms, but is still very loyal to the lex atoma

[ripe obsidian]

I take too much chip damage

[plucky flax]

I use confident strike rather than thunderous for this reason

Keep my toughness at 100% during fights

[ripe obsidian]

I might try Ogryn in havoc eventually. Funny thing was, I used to be best at Vet. That's where I got all my Auric penances before Havoc arrived

[plucky flax]

Psyker is not too hard in havoc with burga build though for the amount of things it can do

Just a bit frustrating when bubble is placed in place rather than forward to create a bridge toward enemy shooters

[ripe obsidian]

That's probably why I have the easiest time with it. I am bad.

I have been trying to get aggressive with bubbles. People just don't push

[plucky flax]

Mfw 4 guys holding up in a room looking at each other and enemies covering the walls with bullet holes

you go
no you go

[ripe obsidian]

That is part of why I like bubble so much. Encourages people to do something

Otherwise an H40 mission takes 45 minutes

[verbal thistle]

I take wall

cause its funny to push bursters into teammates

[ripe obsidian]

I have never used wall

[compact cargo]

I take vent to keep trauma

Trauma users unite, the Bulwark racists love us

I use the trauma staff for hab defense as that's what my beloved intended

24 raging ruffians enter your hab block?

[viscid musk]

Trauma my beloved

[deft stump]

EXCUSE ME.

[ripe obsidian]

I am too scared to use shriek in high havoc

[viscid musk]

Its true theyre magdumping hordes all the time

[compact cargo]

With a VoC and a tauntgryn it shouldn't be too unsafe

Just consult with your team

[deft stump]

WDYM? I throw 'nade and solve problem with hordes.

[compact cargo]

Comms are key, some like vent because trauma can lockdown entire mixed hordes if needed

But sometimes people need your safe space bubble

[ripe obsidian]

Well, there's yer problem. Other than my first H40 clear, I don't use comms

[viscid musk]

Man I would love havoc if it wasnt locked behind the dogass party maker

Unless you go looking for premades its basically impossible to get a lobby

It will get better when the update drops but damn

Its hellish

[compact cargo]

On the other hand most of the parties that don't accept otherwise good players are terrible

Idk if matchmaking would solve that tho

A lot of players are loss farming like if we were playing Warsong Gulch as the alliance

[ripe obsidian]

Most parties >=35 are pretty solid. Most.

[deft stump]

Nobody knows if good or not.

You can't even look at builds and such without mods.

[compact cargo]

I have a six sense to smell skill throuh the skin

I also look at peoples weapons and builds before accepting

[viscid musk]

I dont wanna go through my teammates builds I want to have mentally stable teammates that I can win with

[compact cargo]

Teamate leaves first sign of trouble leabing you to be 3

[marble crater]

Mentally stable teammates, this guy

[plucky flax]

Truth hurts

[compact cargo]

Didn't say anything wrong, a lot of people FAIL the mental game

[ripe obsidian]

Here's a test.

[compact cargo]

Invited instantly

[deft stump]

HRMPH.

[marble crater]

Jokes on you, that's clearly a smyker

[ripe obsidian]

I am gratified.

Rude. >:(

[compact cargo]

Good drip is an indicator thst you've played long enough to accumulate the drip necessary

Jokes on you, I like smykers because even if played wrong they contribute

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Every game had a smyker that I played tonight.

One of them had trauma and bubble but when they weren't smiting, they were using lmb on trauma. 😭

[compact cargo]

Better than a console void ball player that cannot hit a single shot

[viscid musk]

I absolutely do not mind smite as long as they are not smiting monstrosities

[marble crater]

If every game had one... Are you sure you weren't the smyker all along?

[delicate dove]

There's psykers with smite and then there's smykers