psyker-class

[rancid wadi]

Running knife revolver stealth vet is one of my favourite things

[prime elk]

Yup. Also trappers that think they can hide behind a wall of poxxers

Surprise mfer, assail doesn't give a shit

[rancid wadi]

Shards to the nards is the way to go

I enjoy it with scriers gaze usually to really spam them

[prime elk]

Mag dumping assail is fun too

[rancid wadi]

Yeah I mean running bubble shield might be the more optimal way for the team but it does leave me unsatisfied

[brave ibex]

Wonder how the lex psyker will interact with the arbites?

[weary idol]

poorly I bet

they very much believe in the spirit of the law and sticking up for the common man

which Arbites fuckin' don't

[vernal temple]

ah yes, a max rating wound curio. precisely what I've been looking for /s

[strong gulch]

Probably sold next to a 15% toughness curio

[vernal temple]

it was next to a 380 rating 2 stamina

[strong gulch]

[jovial juniper]

Her name is Savant

https://tenor.com/view/teen-titans-go-robin-yell-robin-starfire-nerd-gif-8652289549265412779

[brave ibex]

Thank you

[jovial juniper]

Love Fem Savant

Best voice

(totally not biased)

[remote shadow]

The lack of an option for glowing golden eyes is criminal

[sturdy reef]

Male seer best by far

[odd prism]

so w/ FGS you still just use special with low meter just for the peril so you can creeping flames, yeah?

[sturdy reef]

Ya

[jovial juniper]

The stagger is just a bonus

[indigo plank]

Fatalist personality might actually be somewhat sympathetic

Authoritarian will call everyone scum

Maul will prolly mostly brood unless spoken to me thinks

[brazen rampart]

French lady voice mmmmmmm...

[jovial juniper]

@patent mango

Yo!

[covert stump]

What are people running for curios these days?

[prime elk]

1 hp, 2 toughness

you could run 3 toughness, but it leaves you very vulnerable to bursters/snipers/bad teammates

stamina isn't needed

[covert stump]

No stamina? Been seeing that recommended.

[prime elk]

you can take it as a comfort pick

but i don't think it's needed

[covert stump]

Can't find 3 stam anyway

[prime elk]

don't need it anyway

[frigid olive]

which reminds me I should check if there's a maxed out health curio available right now

[weary idol]

I used to run stamina and switched off and felt literally zero difference

I'm like 90% certain stamina on psyker is a placebo buff

[fiery stratus]

[deft stump]

Is literally the class with stupidly fast stam regen.

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoning-out-cat-stare-black-cat-black-cat-tiktok-stare-gif-6568742496074847242

[deft stump]

Unless you use knoife or ds, you don't need stam.

And even then, KD.

More stam does lower the peril cost though.

[weak sierra]

deflector blessing comes with 30% BCR too, making extra stamina almost completely pointless

[deft stump]

Unless memeing. Or you really just wanna take 1.5% peril per DH heresy combo.

4 hits.

[steady yarrow]

nothing is more deplorable than sneaky crushers

[brazen compass]

Not even pudding at 3 AM?

[fleet aspen]

is there a mod that turns off the peril sound

i cant hear

anything

[strong gulch]

No mod needed. Go the accessibility settings and turn down that specific sound. I think it's called peril fx or something like that.

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

The good news is that you don't need a mod

[fleet aspen]

oh thanks

playing scriers gaze fgs hitting ts all the time

[strong gulch]

Interface > scroll to Accessibility > "Peril FX Intensity" slider

[wraith sphinx]

Turning on pvp just to kill this guy

[torpid girder]

they're nerfing the duelling sword?! D:

[plucky flax]

Maybe

[pine shore]

yes

finally

[torpid girder]

what am i gonna run on my psyker to kill mutants and go super fast nowww

[pine shore]

dueling sword

Or maybe even taxe

[strong gulch]

DS5 is technically getting a buff.

It's been on the nerf block for a long time tho.

[pine shore]

Actually scriers taxe will go absolutely nuts

[frigid olive]

I will always accept more options for popping off with a scriers build

[glacial vapor]

Deimos

[marble crater]

Looks like we will get Arbites content from creators in like 8-9 hours?

[plucky flax]

Ye

This channel becomes arbites discussion soon

The official arbites channel is going to be full of slop

[glacial vapor]

Need to form a shield wall to keep zealot chat out of it

[torpid girder]

How fast do the blaze force swords let psyker move?

[glacial vapor]

It's no DS or knife but the mobility is decent

[torpid girder]

I kind of want to focus more on mobility and just occasionally taking out enemies in close range very rarely

so maybe i should try a knife..

[nocturne dust]

👀

They're nuking sedition?

https://tenor.com/view/scout-tf2-evaporation-evaporate-evaporated-team-fortress-2-gif-3601728232153696258

[torpid girder]

What would a perfect combat bl ade look like?

[wraith sphinx]

Auric is now a standalone difficulty tier, placed above Damnation. We felt that Auric Heresy fell in an awkward spot compared to Damnation, with the increased mission options per difficulty, we decided it was best to turn Auric into its own difficulty level. Additionally, we have removed Sedition difficulty and made a few minor changes to Uprising to take its place, as we felt there was too much downtime with too few enemies between hordes. These changes aim to keep you in the action more often.

Based

No notes

[nocturne dust]

No sedition 😔

[glacial vapor]

Going to see some nightmare teams in Auric, now they've removed Auric heresy

It was the great wall

[nocturne dust]

They let the noobs out of the noob trap 😰

[wraith sphinx]

are we going to have a... noobtide on our hands?

[patent jacinth]

I certainly hope so

[buoyant maple]

New Auric is damnation+

Same health pool as damnation

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[glacial vapor]

Time to finish off those grindy penances this weekend I guess

[summer prairie]

I hope they tweaked mortis waves further because many of them looked way too close to the current, but this sounded pretty spicy

[nocturne dust]

I don't really love the shorter breaks between waves

[wraith sphinx]

what ya got left?

[glacial vapor]

Marksmans focus + smoke grenades on vet

Should be easy enough to finish off

[wraith sphinx]

ah yeah those are easy peasy

[glacial vapor]

Don't want to be the guy spraying my lasgun into hordes on new Auric

[marble crater]

Just throw smokes into poxwalker hordes

[glacial vapor]

Nah, Marksmans is the worst in the game

Grindy and awkward

[wraith sphinx]

a little but I just grinded it out on regular heresy

I was still a standard heresy main when I grinded out the majority of vet and psyker penances

[glacial vapor]

Only like 600 left, one good session should finish it

[marble crater]

Infinite ammo Mortis trial build?

[glacial vapor]

I just can't with current Mortis

[wraith sphinx]

I'm glad I managed to get ASS with yalls help before the update though 🫡

[glacial vapor]

Dull af until your team crumples from ragers + specials

[quartz barn]

Imagine people going for ass after the update

[frigid olive]

going for huh

[torpid girder]

auric storm survivor i think

[glacial vapor]

Surely going to be the same? Mael isn't changing

[marble crater]

I guess I should read the update

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah I genuinely have no idea how will the playerbase shuffle around after the difficulty reworks

[glacial vapor]

Auric exemplar though

[wraith sphinx]

I approve of standards, aurics and that karnak twins missions being merged into one menu though

[torpid girder]

Time to switch to knife psyker 🙏

[plucky flax]

Rip my sedition difficulty.

[quartz barn]

Everyone will turn auric into hell

[wraith sphinx]

Rolling steel 💪

[plucky flax]

What an i playing now

[torpid girder]

Sedition will be missed.. 💔

uprising might be too much

[plucky flax]

I might as well quit the game

[wraith sphinx]

you should ask that unsanctionedpsyker guy to carry you in uprising

[plucky flax]

[quartz barn]

Because those who played auric heresy will move on to auric damn just to not play regular damnation

[wraith sphinx]

auric damnation is gone nut

it's just one auric difficulty now

[plucky flax]

Thank unsanctionedpsyker for that

[quartz barn]

I know

[wraith sphinx]

oh right it's still damnation + anyways

[quartz barn]

But otherwise that sentence would be scuffed xd

[torpid girder]

Also for knife, riposte vs precognition?

[wraith sphinx]

mb

yeah I getchu

[quartz barn]

But uh

[nocturne dust]

riposte

Precog is for big damage memes, but has a problem with duration

[quartz barn]

Going from auric heresy to regular heresy or damnation would feel like a downgrade imo

[torpid girder]

so once my mastery is high enough, flak + unyielding and riposte + uncanny strike?

or should I find a knife with all 80s and 60% in mobility

[quartz barn]

So i expect most people will flood auric because it has the same name

[torpid girder]

if like it meets BPs or something

[wraith sphinx]

Personally it's generally an upgrade because auric heresy was where the toxic clueless tryhards clustered

standard diffs is just people trying to have fun with whatever they have on hand equipment wise

[glacial vapor]

There's definitely a level of crazy you don't get in the normal modes.

And normal heresy players will struggle with high int

[quartz barn]

And now youll get those in neutral auric

Which is harder

Oh no no

[wraith sphinx]

I remain optimistic

https://tenor.com/view/hamtaro-hamster-gif-20372504

[nocturne dust]

depends on what you want

[quartz barn]

Ye i dont care too much tbh

[glacial vapor]

Going to be a rough month until it settles

[quartz barn]

Can carry all the same

[torpid girder]

I'm using it as like a sidearm for soulblaze trauma so mostly just something for high mobility and to occasionally kill an enemy i stagger or like, mutant spam

[nocturne dust]

if you're using knife for single targets, riposte works. A bleed blessing is good for horde clear (and knife can actually achieve decent horde clear with it)

[wraith sphinx]

indeed

[quartz barn]

Just pointing out that the average experience is going to be worse due to expected decrease in pub skill

[buoyant maple]

Just crab walk spawn camp in mercantile

With a power sword / combat axe

2500 kills takes like 20 mins

[wraith sphinx]

yeah, a logical outcome of difficulty segments being merged

should result in even shorter qp queues though

[torpid girder]

What's a good way to get mastery btw? just normal 5s?

[wraith sphinx]

buy green weapons and sacrifice t hem

[patent jacinth]

It costs like 300k dockets per weapon or so

[strong gulch]

buy GREY of the same weapon family, make them green, sacrifice them to hadron

[nocturne dust]

Buy green weapons and sacrifice if you are rich, play game with weapon if not

[glacial vapor]

Highest diff you can complete. I'm not sure if Aurics/maels or normal damns are better though

[gray juniper]

What’s being debated here? There’s a game change going on?

[wraith sphinx]

#📢news-bulletin message

[glacial vapor]

They're removing a couple of difficulty levels

Sedition + Auric Heresy

[plucky flax]

Nah do it if you want. Its not havoc so no tryhard needed

Oops wrong reply to

[plucky flax]

Was meant for this

[gray juniper]

Ty guys. I saw the news in game but didn’t see the elongated announcement

Honestly I’m glad auric heresy is gone. It’s weird because enemies and damage don’t go how it’s expected too and teammate quality was inconsistent

[glacial vapor]

Now you'll get those players on new Auric

[gray juniper]

lol

They’ll die off fast and quit either way

[glacial vapor]

They aren't ready for Auric heresy yet they keep playing

[summer prairie]

No auric heresy but "Notably, Maelstrom missions are exclusive to the Heresy and Auric difficulties."

does that sound right

[gray juniper]

Yea true

[glacial vapor]

[gray juniper]

Hopefully they mean heresy through auric

[glacial vapor]

No regular damn maels or poorly phrased?

[gray juniper]

I really hope some auric missions got bumped up in difficulty if has only one setting now

[viscid musk]

I liked auric heresy because I could chill out and still kill enemies

[gray juniper]

Fair

[viscid musk]

It felt just right

[gray juniper]

I used it for penances a lot

[viscid musk]

Im still at 4300...

Need to get 4500 for that sweet armor

[gray juniper]

Im at 3000 and only play psyker lol

[wraith sphinx]

who is this noob wtf

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/noob-banana-dancing-groovy-animation-pixelized-gif-17324656

[gray juniper]

I really hope they change the malleus monstronum thing soon. I can’t get any friends on except for two havoc missions max and randoms have no self control

[viscid musk]

Shur up man

[wraith sphinx]

You can ask here 🙂 there's several of us who're happy to help if we got time

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/no-perms-flex-gif-21267080

[gray juniper]

Buddy…

If anyone would help me complete malleus monstronum you’d be awesome and I’d owe you a favor back

[frigid olive]

i should do cliffside to finally get the helmet-

[gray juniper]

Btw big love to all my siblings 🤗

[glacial vapor]

I could help but it will be tomorrow or the weekend before I'm free

Hopefully someone else can get you sorted before then

[gray juniper]

Mad respect

Anytime would be fine. I’ve been waiting on it anyway so all help I get I’m grateful

[wraith sphinx]

I can hop on right now if you're online

[gray juniper]

Yes please

I have the game booted and got distracted adding the discord lol

[wraith sphinx]

which region are you in?

[gray juniper]

USA central

[wraith sphinx]

3982603639 inv me

[gray juniper]

Ok cool ty

I see you!

[elfin owl]

How does one power up brain rupture faster? Is it just empowered psyonics?

[gray juniper]

Yes

[marble crater]

With the add on, Kinetic resonance

[gray juniper]

I like it. It works with the right additions

[viscid musk]

I dont know why but brain blast always feels off to me

[wraith sphinx]

bb cast time is too slow

[viscid musk]

Its like theres always a better alternative

[wraith sphinx]

yeah

still the most used psyker blitz somehow

[viscid musk]

The peril is massive too tbh

[wraith sphinx]

or at least according to fatshark

[strong gulch]

KF

[viscid musk]

Well its the basic one

[gray juniper]

Only use it within empowered ionic

[strong gulch]

Most used by not using it.

[marble crater]

Brain Burst ❌
Kinetic Flayer ✅

[wraith sphinx]

oh right

[viscid musk]

Does KF count for the penance?

[spice oar]

AURIC DIFFICULTY FOR MORTIS TRIALS

FINALLY

[marble crater]

KF is on the left side of the tree 🤓 👆

[spice oar]

god I wanted that so bad

Base mortis is so so ass

[viscid musk]

Rick and mortis

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/mortis-death-faith-the-unholy-trinity-black-background-gif-16127590072717400258

[viscid musk]

https://tenor.com/view/faith-handshake-gif-27467030

[summer prairie]

No idea what "auric" means for mortis, probably nothing.

It's just harder waves, why call it auric even. I guess because it's now a difficulty name

[quartz barn]

High int?

So prob more elites/specials

[summer prairie]

but mortis doesn't have random waves

just shorter timers between them

[viscid musk]

Because Auric difficulty means a whole other subfaction of agents is deployed due to the super high chance of failure 🤓 👆

[sinful peak]

Give me h40 enemy density in mortis trials

[spice oar]

It says shorter timers, tougher enemies and more variety in waves aaaaaand lemme check

[summer prairie]

oh I know and knew that already

[viscid musk]

Maybe it would make h40 fun rather than tedious

[summer prairie]

but previously auric referred to other things not relevant to mortis

[strong gulch]

Instructions unclear. Mortis trials is now a chained together style jump puzzle.

[spice oar]

Oh wait no that’s coming separate from auric mortis

[summer prairie]

no

[spice oar]

Auric probably means chuck batshit

[spice oar]

Yeah

“So, we are adding a new difficulty, Auric, as well as some other small changes.”

[viscid musk]

Auric is just gonna be Auric Damnation

[spice oar]

Slay

[viscid musk]

Auric heresy is gone

[summer prairie]

I think it's just weird phrasing or they mean that they also shorten wave timers for other difficulties

[viscid musk]

I would assume its for all diffs?

[wraith sphinx]

I assume so too

[frigid olive]

What does the shock maul actually do? What is it's purpose?

[viscid musk]

Stagger

It does kinda suck..

[wraith sphinx]

bonk

[glacial vapor]

Good single target dps actually. Lots of stagger, piss poor cleave holds it back

Also opens bulwark shields

[frigid olive]

I see I really should learn what all the weapons/marks are good at-

[gray juniper]

Man I owe you. Thank you so much

@wraith sphinx

[wraith sphinx]

🙇‍♂️ happy to help!

[gray juniper]

Months sitting on that 😭. Seriously If I can pay it back u got me

[wraith sphinx]

it's just a silly videogame achievment

enjoy it 🫡

[gray juniper]

I’ve asked a lot of people what auric “is” when I started the game. I’ve come to understand it just means constant waves of enemies

[glacial vapor]

It's just the Hi-Int modifier as a base

[wraith sphinx]

Auric is guaranteed high intensity modifier missions

[gray juniper]

If you want me to help you with a silly game achievement I got you!

[glacial vapor]

Along with more frequent other modifiers

[gray juniper]

Yea but what’s disappointing about auric is it doesn’t always have a ln environment modifier

[wraith sphinx]

with the upcoming difficulty changes I'm going to assume it's going to remain the same in that regard

[gray juniper]

True

[summer prairie]

I know but those modifiers have no meaning for mortis. Well sure they can mean shorter timers between waves but they already mention that

[deft stump]

More sad auric heresy going poof. Lazier breakpoints but the number of spawns.

[summer prairie]

auric is just damnation with two additional modifiers

[glacial vapor]

... Do we know we aren't getting Hi-Int pox gas Mortis? 🤔

[deft stump]

You are getting shot before someone reads that.

Pox gas in my Mortis?

[glacial vapor]

🫡

[gray juniper]

There’s not enough power outage or pox gas missions

[deft stump]

POX GAS?

[gray juniper]

lol

[deft stump]

You all are making it easy for me to go blam blam blam.

[glacial vapor]

The issue with pox gas is it drags the mission out. Less of a problem on Mortis

[deft stump]

I do not want power outage as well.

[gray juniper]

I mean in regular auric I swear!

[wraith sphinx]

auric heresy has no real "chill factor" for me because of the sheer amount of auric heresy players who don't know how to not get pox bursted or netted

[deft stump]

Who thought it was fun playing with a blackscreen?

[wraith sphinx]

so I just play auric damnation

[gray juniper]

Auric should have a 50% special conditions besides enemy waves

[gray juniper]

I just got netted and went down in that heresy mission we played lmao

[glacial vapor]

Should see those missions more frequently now with the mission screen changes

[wraith sphinx]

yeah that's fine!

[gray juniper]

Bro if I ever die it’s always that net

[wraith sphinx]

standard missions only rarely have high intensity modifier so getting netted is really not a big deal

[deft stump]

Shush. I like the easier breakpoints. More fun in my book.

[wraith sphinx]

idec about breakpoints

I just press lmb until enemy dies

[deft stump]

You not vet main, so you clearly don't understand why one shot breakpoints important.

[glacial vapor]

Hi-Int isn't even all that much more.

Hi-Int Shock Gauntlet though

[gray juniper]

It was a noob moment on my account 🥴

[glacial vapor]

When I ran my MM I got overheaded by a stealth crusher just after spawn

[gray juniper]

lol

[wraith sphinx]

What, having all those +damage talents isn't enough?

[deft stump]

When I do MM, is either casual romp or tryhard solo.

[gray juniper]

I got eaten by the nurgle beasts and downed by a net in one go. 50rem is a polite class act

[deft stump]

It's not unless you run specific guns and perks and blessings.

Even my bistol on a minmax build has to bleed out stuff.

[wraith sphinx]

fair, I just try to melee as much stuff as possible and infil as needed

[gray juniper]

This is after carrying parties yesterday to grab skulls 🥴

[deft stump]

Is why vet needs a buff. The most bp focused char but it is taxed so bloody much.

[wraith sphinx]

yeah I hear you

zealot tree infuriates me by funneling you and having the least freedom to mix abilities from differing sides

[viscid musk]

In my book shit happens and everyone makes mistakes

Im only evil to rumbler ogryns

[gray juniper]

lol yea

[wraith sphinx]

vet has these nodes that just make me go "why does this exist"

[gray juniper]

*only when they stand in the middle the entire game

[deft stump]

Taxes.

[viscid musk]

Wasnt the zealot the first reworked class?

I assume it will get expanded or changed in a couple updates

[deft stump]

Vet to give them keystones.

[marble crater]

Unlucky For Some

[wraith sphinx]

Literally never used that one lmao

I'm talking about stuff like

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

Thoughts on this guys; would it be “unfair” or make sense if they devs switched lightning speed and perilous assault on psykers?

[viscid musk]

And the left side of the tree still blows

💔

[gray juniper]

Those talents increase melee and weapon swap speed

[wraith sphinx]

that would hobble right tree psyker a ton

weapon swap speed boosts are useless to a psyker

[deft stump]

Taxes.

[marble crater]

Psyker can swap weapons?

[gray juniper]

Would it work better for gun psyker with scriers gaze?

[main jolt]

using this for a gunker scriers build, anything need changing?

[deft stump]

Yes, gunker/meleeker anyway.

[wraith sphinx]

swapping perilous assault with souldrinker would be fine however

[gray juniper]

I never use either but talent but I wonder for people who do

[viscid musk]

I hold w m1 with scriers gaze and the moonlight greatsword, I wouldnt know

[gray juniper]

Yea soul drinker on the opposite side doesn’t make sense

[wind wind]

Ofc that random psyker on quickplay had to pick up the grimmoire....

Can we just delete grimmoires from the game?

[wraith sphinx]

the randoms that pick up grims are always the first to die in my games lmao

[gray juniper]

I want lightning speed on the left of the talent tree honestly

[viscid musk]

Honestly there need to be better rewards for them

[gray juniper]

But if it harms gun psykers i understand not to

[viscid musk]

Just give us like 20 grimmy related penances..

[wraith sphinx]

left side psykers don't know how to melee anyways

[wind wind]

He wasnt. He had the havoc 40 title and He played a very competent gun psyker (scriers, assail and some IA) with duelingsword. But i still hate him for picking up the grim

[deft stump]

Naw, someone else keeps dying, then that someone else finds grim 2 and then they both die horribly while I play blinded and hope to clutch till heal.

[gray juniper]

What other guns do you use on that build?

[wraith sphinx]

and complain psyker is bad at melee too

[gray juniper]

Call me out again 😂

[wind wind]

He even said thats what youre supposed to do to which i retorted that i hoped hed step on a lego tonight.... Barefoot 😈

[viscid musk]

All they know is brainburst and quell they peril..

[main jolt]

none im more of a staff user

[wraith sphinx]

and crystalline will and ragequit

[deft stump]

You kinda do if you lack the penances.

[viscid musk]

Remind me to play shield bb psyker because I have no penances done there

🥀

[deft stump]

I just got someone and speedrun sedation.

[wind wind]

I usually snag up the grim when the original grimmoire picker dies and then i destroy it.

No russian

No grimmoires

[wraith sphinx]

shur

those penances took forever to do lmao

[wind wind]

Sucks to them i guess.

No love for grimmoires. Never

[wraith sphinx]

I literally saved mind's aegis for last I hate shield 💔

[gray juniper]

I can’t speak for everyone but the double barrel shotgun with reload buffs and the braced auto gun with damage buffs is good

[wraith sphinx]

the shotgun buffs are nice

or do you mean the reload speed perk?

[deft stump]

Maybe Chaos will sell you the bubble knight.

[wraith sphinx]

never sorry

[main jolt]

i'll give the double barrel a try then

[gray juniper]

I got you but suggest higher difficulty because the damage it needs to absorb is a very long time

[viscid musk]

I only play auric

[glacial vapor]

I thought grims died with the holder? 🤔

[viscid musk]

So I will be fine

[gray juniper]

The blessings I mean

[wraith sphinx]

ah

I use scattershot and flechette on my gunker but idk the shotgun meta

[gray juniper]

I have a reload and bleed blessing on double barrel. It cuts through pretty good

Yes fletchette is dope

[gray juniper]

Yea it’ll go in no time

Anyone have methods for the great sword? Aesthetically I love it but in practice it falls short on big mobs in higher difficulty. What am I doing wrong?

[viscid musk]

Which version are you using?

[gray juniper]

Let’s see

Covenant mark 8

[viscid musk]

Use the one with strikedown heavies

[gray juniper]

What do you mean?

[viscid musk]

The mark 6

[gray juniper]

Ok got u

[glacial vapor]

They both work

[viscid musk]

I use it with deflector and cleave

[glacial vapor]

Can lean into crit more with shred. It also performs really good with scriers

[gray juniper]

Yea I use deflector on all my force swords. I’m wondering why the great sword seems worse with crowds than the illisi I have

[gray juniper]

Ok that’s interesting. I might change the blessing then

[wraith sphinx]

I never use deflector because it feels so weird to use something no other melee weapon has

[gray juniper]

It’s handy for clutches

[wraith sphinx]

I run uhh uncanny and slaughterer on fs

[viscid musk]

Its so good though

[gray juniper]

I play random matches 99% of the time

[glacial vapor]

If I ran deflector I would do something dumb the second I swapped to a different class

[wind wind]

No, they drop like ac or medcrates.

ALWAYS destroy them 😈

[wraith sphinx]

same and I still never use deflector

[viscid musk]

The way to use deflector is

Forget you have it

[gray juniper]

lol

[viscid musk]

Block a random shot

[gray juniper]

It’s a nice breather

[viscid musk]

Holy fuck I have deflector

Repeat

[gray juniper]

Jokes aside if you have few or now long range abilities alike running the inferno staff, it helps

If I’m in a combo of high peril, out of ammo, completely in the open, I’ll throw it up and slide dodge to the machine gunner or reaper pelting me

[glacial vapor]

Doesn't seem like you're making the most of that blessing

[viscid musk]

It clutches sometimes

[deft stump]

That's scriptures...

[gray juniper]

Yea it’s rare use. Really for terrible situations you shouldn’t be in but like I said I play random matches

Like if you’re in the middle of consignment yard at the end of the level and everyone goes down it keeps you going

[glacial vapor]

Ah, the classic consignment yard ending. Team drops down to the medicae without clearing out the ranged enemies. Gets slaughtered because there is no cover

[gray juniper]

lol basically

Folks go down anywhere on the open side of the train. Sometimes crowding the higher platform

[wind wind]

Grimmoire drop too afaik

Well, just looked it up, they are supposed to despawn, but ive seen them stay before so maybe bugged 🤷🏻

[deft stump]

Just FS quality coding.

[upper sun]

people who programmed hard coded long docking sequences that dont involve any loading ie mass effect, starfield, dredge should be banned from making video games

[marble crater]

Fucking Starfield man

[upper sun]

🚬 at least you didnt pay for it

[potent echo]

maybe they just think it isnt fun

[marble crater]

Enter ship loading
Planet to space loading
System to system loading
Landing loading
Exit the ship loading

[blissful solar]

starfield is a failure like all bethesda games

[potent echo]

starfield is like all bethesda games

[upper sun]

you know

in fallout new vegas and fallout 3/oblivion there was a command "movetoqt"

it would teleport you to the quest marker

[marble crater]

I don't know

[upper sun]

but because of some changes in the quest tracking system it was changed to movetoqt <questmarkerID>

starifled was so shit they added the command back in its old format

it was so bad BETHESDA did work they didnt have to to make skipping loading screens easier for testing

[potent echo]

playtesters were probably losing their mind

[upper sun]

using movetoqt i finished the game TWICE doing every quest in 120 hours

[potent echo]

tbh why wouldnt you use it

its not like the travelling has any gameplay

[upper sun]

ye

esp when most quests are talk to guy 10000 light years away then report back

🚬 gonna edit my save game in mass effect 1 to double my stamina to run faster

[viscid musk]

At least MELE lets you skip it these days

[upper sun]

im playing it rn

it doesnt 😭

just elevator rides

[viscid musk]

Running just changes your FOV outside of combat

[upper sun]

i dont believe you

[viscid musk]

Also the citadel docking is pure kino

[loud girder]

at least dredge is aiming for immersive whatever tf experience

[viscid musk]

Its true lmfao look it up

[loud girder]

starfield is just the old ass engine not complying

and mass effect was a ps3 game and ps3 games had infinite loading screens

[upper sun]

just tested it

you're wrong

[loud girder]

tested wot

[viscid musk]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7FhgShncJec

[upper sun]

this is standard edition

there was no stamina bar

[loud girder]

wait playing mass effect for first time?

just mod tf out of the jank

that shrimple

[viscid musk]

I wonder if he knows how to save jenkins

[loud girder]

i made it so stamina is infinite outside combat

[upper sun]

yeah ez you just have to name your character jenkins

and go to the citadel scan all the keepers

and then shoot exactly 45 bullets into one cup in the bar

[viscid musk]

Youre using combat sprint doe

That one is faster

The citadel one is not for sure

[upper sun]

it works everywhere now

[spice oar]

I love that you are just documenting your mass effect playthrough here

Who you romancing?

[upper sun]

🚬 arbites isnt up what am i supposed to do

[upper sun]

liara miranda then liara again

[spice oar]

Understandable

Why the Miranda road bump

[upper sun]

liara isnt romancable in me2

she goes on a lil girlboss tangent and gets a real job or smthin

idk i wasnt listening

[spice oar]

Ahhhh I thought it was one game that’s why

[quartz barn]

Mf speedrunning the trilogy in a single week

[upper sun]

I am not!!!!

however i can

[patent mango]

hi

[upper sun]

hi

[patent mango]

hi

[upper sun]

hi

[zinc phoenix]

Is dog out yet?

[marble crater]

No

[deft stump]

If you live in China, maybe.

[viscid musk]

You can continue the romance thru the dlc
People do mention that you cheat on them in me2 you know..

[viscid musk]

Who let the dogs out?

[marble crater]

But do they know though?

[viscid musk]

They do know...

[marble crater]

I lost my memory or something, not my fault

[viscid musk]

Even the virmire survivor mentions it

[zinc phoenix]

Not asking about dinner 🙏 😂

[viscid musk]

I think the funniest relationship comment is what jack says to a garrus romance in me3

[upper sun]

pretty sure the cheating is in mass effect 3 with the house party dlc

jesus christ what happened to my space game

[zinc phoenix]

My baby is half Chinese I’m not hating, I know dogs are popular pets in China now and that there are protests at the few markets that still do it

I just thought it was a funny retort 😂

[viscid musk]

In a country that is as rural and as vast as china theres still bound to be things like that happening, sadly

[zinc phoenix]

Wuhan isn’t rural or some hinterland

Some people just backwards

Least my relatives stick to burning fake money and don’t do animal sacrifice to the ancestors

[viscid musk]

Well its illegal since 2020 so at least theres that

[upper sun]

buring money? or do you mean putting coins in a cake?

[zinc phoenix]

You buy special money for the ancestors and burn it in a pot with incense while doing a little ceremony for the ghosts

[deft stump]

No, some say Arbites released early in China.

[gray juniper]

Mass effect 2 was goated but the galaxy navigation was peak in mass effect 1

[zinc phoenix]

Surveying planet was ass

[gray juniper]

You’re good with me if nobody else. It shouldn’t be criminal to tell the truth

Idk system by system exploration was interesting as possible. I spent hours reading the lore text on planets and the mass effect world building

Probably one of the most well thought out space sci fis made

[blissful solar]

i think they're making an me show

i hope it's good but...

[jovial juniper]

What's the mod you used to give bolter to Ogryn?

I just can't remember

[patent mango]

loadout config from modding discord

[potent echo]

probe launched

[gray juniper]

No resources

[marble crater]

Just thinking back to ME1 planet exploration is giving me anxiety

[gray juniper]

Was it the mountains or the random worm bursting from the ground?

[marble crater]

Yes and the having to drive anywhere in that thing in the first place, it's horrible

[regal harness]

whats a good dump for Heavy Laspistol
the steam page is outdated so i can't check it

[marble crater]

Mobility probability

Probably

[regal harness]

the voices

[prime elk]

prob better to dump stability

you take laspiss for mobility

[upper sun]

🤔

you guys think nvidia and amd pay game devs to unoptimize games

i think they do

[blissful solar]

nah they do that on their own

[upper sun]

mass effect 1 LE runs on my thinkpad natively from a haddrive connected via USB

[upper sun]

"never contribute to incomitance what could be contributed to malice"

[blissful solar]

(never attribute to incompetence what could be attributed to malice)

[leaden thunder]

I mean, similar things do happen

[upper sun]

thats not how the inquisitor says it

[leaden thunder]

idk if that kind of thing has made it into the gaming industry yet though

[marble crater]

Other way around, no?

[blissful solar]

yeah but i think clad is saying it that way on purpose

[upper sun]

unironically would go hard as a loading screentip

[marble crater]

Clad is clearly too bored to be here and should just focus on getting Ashley away from all the nice people

[upper sun]

ikr

im taking a shitposting study break

last exam tomorrow

[marble crater]

Very nice

[wraith sphinx]

🙏

I got done with everything except my thesis

kind of on a break today anyways because it's a holiday

[regal harness]

done and done

every single weapon is done

[marble crater]

[regal harness]

gotta make hadron proved

[ripe obsidian]

With the mission board rework, I am curious how modifiers will work. High intensity and pox gas and such.

[gray juniper]

I really just hope we see more of it

Lights out missions are actually a real challenge and spooky. It’s great

There’s a lot of immersion in that

[ripe obsidian]

I should finally finish my grimoire penance in case they bork it

I've been 8 away for like a year

Pox gas penance is just never getting done, I guess.

I am also curious whether Maelstrom will still be a rotation, or every map will have Maelstrom all the time.

[gray juniper]

I have none of the condition penances done. There’s never enough aired

[dusk silo]

How do you cope when vets and zealots focus firing your brain burst target as soon as you start lighting them up? Ogryns are ok because they're lightning rods for joy.

[leaden thunder]

the single issue I have with lights out is that real flashlights are weapon locked

for some mindboggling reason

[leaden thunder]

you don't thats the fun part

unironically it fucken activates my neurons when I see it on vet

I sometimes cannot help shooting it

it's such a clear sight picture on the target

[glossy perch]

So we can't test distrup destiny is psykanarium?

[analog agate]

It doesn’t matter. If they shoot that is good. I am BBing something cause someone hasn’t dealt with it yet and I am trying to kill it. If they kill it, cool. I get to continue on.

[digital narwhal]

You can with the Creature Spawner mod.
Essentially, it requires active AI.

[glossy perch]

ohhh

Shame would like to see the damage numbers

[prime elk]

sounds like you haven't played with many ogryns

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-17640294432761192580

[prime elk]

so i can bring my level 1 into damnation?

[fiery stratus]

Probably, but the more important part is lots of people who have to be carried will be forced to either get carried or gitgud

[marble crater]

Very clearly sounds like no

[prime elk]

smh

[analog agate]

Sounds character dependent. Not account dependent

I hope not

Cause that is stupid

[gray juniper]

Man when I first started the game it was like a target light for them and being honest I was aggravated af lol

Now I realize you whip out brain burst when it’s really hairy situation and they’re distracted. I use it to soften or kill bulwarks and crushers

[fiery stratus]

True. On the upside though, if the threshold is decent, there's gonna be plenty of people who aren't going to meet it on their existing characters

[gray juniper]

May be surprised to get knocked down a few but I’d rather know my competency tbh

I’m going to play the story mode

[analog agate]

You may be forgetting that this is all based on lvl 30. Which most people are.

[fiery stratus]

It just says progress is migrated, the way I'm reading it if you havent completed x auric games, maxed character doesn't matter

[deft stump]

And I will just die laughing if my psyker is stuck in heresy since never touched in ages. And maybe oggy since I most use for MM.

[fiery stratus]

It still says based on completed missions, so level 30 is not gonna be fast track to auric anymore

[analog agate]

👍

[gray juniper]

Yea I’m expecting that we may end up surprised and get bumped down when not expecting it at all

It looks like your overall total games and success rate with that character is going to matter

That’s the way I read it imo

[deft stump]

Which will be bad since ppl prefer to leave runs when we finish MM or other specific penances.

[gray juniper]

Honestly i did not know for the longest. I assumed it was like other games and finished it out

This was like a couple months ago lol

But you’re right. Hopefully manual leaving keeps it neutral on your score if that’s the case

[potent echo]

is this put in place so auric mael isnt flooded with lvl5 arbites

[marble crater]

I doubt anyone who has been playing damnation will suddenly be locked out of it

[deft stump]

Your less used chars might.

[upper sun]

one fucking bulwark followed me 5 rooms while trying to clutch

[marble crater]

I have played enough auric with all my characters

I will be really surprised if I can't do everything with them

[deft stump]

I probs can only play vet and Zel.

Assuming they count H40 games for Zel.

[potent echo]

they are a menance if your loadout cant deal with them

[summer canopy]

can someone tell me good psyker weapons to use while trying to get all the peanances

im taking dueling sword is a given for melee

[potent echo]

i told another server and they told me skill issue bulwarks are easy

[ripe obsidian]

Whichever ones make you happy.

[summer canopy]

idfk I have all of them maxed out but I didnt use any

thats why i masking

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[ripe obsidian]

Rude of you

[marble crater]

Voidblast/Inferno and Deimos/DS if you want horde clear ranged with single target melee
Elektro and Illisi if you want the opposite

[ripe obsidian]

FGS is just a better Illisi

[summer canopy]

Deimos?

[marble crater]

With worse dodges, I don't like it on staves, too fat

[marble crater]

One of the force sword marks

[summer canopy]

ah

[ripe obsidian]

I do not think I am good enough at blocking to be a good Arbites player. So much perfect block

[marble crater]

Just pick all the talents without blocking

[summer canopy]

which dueling sword variant was even the best again?

[ripe obsidian]

DSIV, for now

[summer canopy]

4th?

[marble crater]

4

[summer canopy]

so dump cleave then?

[marble crater]

Yes

[summer canopy]

got it

I have a 61 cleave

thats

annoying me

[marble crater]

Literally unplayable

[summer canopy]

another 61 cleave

damn you fatshark

[wraith sphinx]

me when 1%

[summer canopy]

what was the dump for inferno

warp or quell

[ripe obsidian]

Warp resist

[marble crater]

Warp, always*

*not voidstrike

[summer canopy]

figured, guide said quell so I ahd doubts

we ball

[weak galleon]

What is that heresy I'm reading about DS nerf?
How bout they just take it back to Psyker instead?

Obese Shark first created the problem by giving it to a class with metric fuckton of melee bonuses, and instead of reverting that decision, just decides to nerf it.

whats next, give Zealot Force Swords and nerf those too?

[deft stump]

Do you think that would fix anything when people are used to having it? The weapon has been OP even on psyker alone. Just most psykers suck at melee.

[leaden thunder]

and psyker sucked for a long time too, so people didn't realize how broken it could be

now psyker is good, and things are very different

[weak galleon]

If we take "most psykers suck at melee" at face value, that by definition means Psyker has below average melee across majority of playerbase, compared to other alternatives. Which means, keepign something like DS on it was fine.
Hell, nobody complained about Psyker DS stealing kills in the past, at least I dont remember any of that.
And no, I'm not a DS user, I prefer FSwords, but this is exactly the shit that was predicted the moment DS ended up on Zealot.

[deft stump]

No, as in skill issue suck.

The class is crazy in melee, but most people can't do high risk, high rewards gameplay well.

[analog agate]

Ya. FS fucked up by giving ds to other classes

[weak galleon]

Skill floors and ceilings are integral part of the class strenghts and weaknesses in the grand scheme of things.

[leaden thunder]

what patch was psyker reworked and what patch brought the DS to other classes

I do not remember but either they where the sme or very close

[deft stump]

Thus, Psyker has a high floor and a much higher celling. If you have seen god psykers literally charging in with a beeg sword and murdering everything, you'll understand why its not the class sucking at melee. Is the players suck at using psyker in melee. DS is just brain dead OP.

[weak galleon]

yes, exactly, which, again ,puts it at below average on melee across majority of playerbase. You can and probably should do balancing around 95-99% in a competitive pvp environment, you have to consider much wider slice of playerbase in a non competitive pve coop environment.

[leaden thunder]

well then those most people will have to use more fun weapons

instead of crutching on the DS

oh no

and it will likely still be good regardless

every weapon they have nerfed has either stayed strong or been brought back up to speed

[deft stump]

Look, you maybe enjoy the crutch too much to see why it's that broken. When something kills a crusher in 4 hits without any talents, you can't say that's not OP.

[plucky flax]

Give arbites ds

[leaden thunder]

kill in 4 hits without really giving up much, specifically

[deft stump]

No talents.

[weak galleon]

but was it a bad thing?
it's not even DS itself - as I've said I'm not using it - it's the situation itself that kinda makes me mad at FS.
They created an issue out of nothing, now instead of taking responsibility and rolling back their decision, they gonna balance it towards zealot.

I mean, imagine if all of Force Swords, including GFS, were made available on Zealots?
Or imagine if some of human weapons became available on Ogryns.

[leaden thunder]

I mean the weapon doesn't give up much to do that

[deft stump]

Do you know how broken some oggy weapns are like. Throw the pickaxe on Zealot.

[weak galleon]

Or vice versa, yes.
Lets throw Ogryn weapons to Zealot

then year later make a surprised pikachu face

and nerf them

what even is this shit

[deft stump]

Throwing human weapons in general to oggy is like throwing nerf guns to them.

[leaden thunder]

called fixing the game

DS is broken period

for all classes that can use it

the only reason they didn' t realize it'd do this is becuae psyker sucked ass for so long

[weak galleon]

It was never an issue before it got thrown to other classes.
I dont remembet any complaints about its overall efficiency, despite its ceiling and capabilities.

[leaden thunder]

becuase as i've said l;ike 5 times

psyker sucked ass

it doesn't now

DS or not

psyker can crank the shit out of it

it was never an issue becuase psyker being weak made it a non issue

[weak galleon]

it can, but none of that would've happened if they didnt share it among other classes. As was said here, most psykers suck at melee anyway.

[deft stump]

Why, it wouldn't matter if it's psyker only, still going to be OP anyway. The only reason ppl use force stuff is cos they have fun niches without literally being the most powerful thing. Though illisi needs a buff.

[leaden thunder]

it was still just as good back then, people just didn't realize

[deft stump]

Also, deflector can come in crutch in higher havocs.

[dusky crag]

psyker getting a rework and DS getting shared in the same patch really poisoned this discussion

[weak galleon]

Yeah, giving other classes weapon that was right off the bat considered OP on them was not the wisest decision. Even when it was painfully obvious from day 1 how all of this would end. And so it did.

It'd be a much healthier discussion if it was kept on Psyker and readjusted. Now they're going to have a bit of shitstorm on their hands.

[potent echo]

giving it to zealot was a mistake lol

[weak galleon]

especially since it took them... how long to recognize that?

[leaden thunder]

realize and change are 2 different things

[weak galleon]

i cant remember when that patch was.

[potent echo]

also i feel like ogryn heavy hitter tree is way overtuned now

imo they should have kept the heavy attack limitation

[deft stump]

Oggy in general is overtuned now.

[weak galleon]

it is.

[dusky crag]

september?

[wraith sphinx]

ogryn kind of boring to play 😔

[dusky crag]

they acknowledged ds being a problem in december tho

[potent echo]

wdym, dont you love spamming m1 on bull butcher

[weak galleon]

wait what? What took them half a year to adjust a weapon.

[potent echo]

i love the ripper rework though

[zinc phoenix]

Zealot and vet

[wraith sphinx]

ogryn so slow...

[dusky crag]

they don't make rash balance choices

[potent echo]

actually a reason to use braced

[dusky crag]

the one exception being launch assail

[deft stump]

Bullrush stabstabstabstabstab.

[dusky crag]

because that was a problem

[potent echo]

vet is fine with duelling sword

they alr have psword

[zinc phoenix]

It looks dumb

[viscid musk]

me click m1 with rubmler

[potent echo]

shrug

[zinc phoenix]

All the sweaties use the ds and it’s so laaaaame

[deft stump]

Not if you can get the Commissar set... I can't because Tencent FOMO thing.

[potent echo]

real sweats use taxce

[zinc phoenix]

Fatshark says they will make it so

[wraith sphinx]

real sweats melee with brain burst

[zinc phoenix]

I’m waiting for dog patch to play derptide again

[weak galleon]

There's quite the gap between "not making rash balance choices" and rolling out an obviously broken/OP decision in September, recognizing it by December, but acting on it in June, and it's all about a single piece of equipment.

[zinc phoenix]

Why they make me wait so long

[potent echo]

still waiting for the day i get to play tau crisis suits

[zinc phoenix]

Soon I will be literally just playing fgs psyker again doing dog stuff

[analog agate]

Lol where is this coming from. Psyker was only mediocre the first few months of the game release

[leaden thunder]

hyperbole generally

[analog agate]

Gotcha

[deft stump]

Just, do you think meleeker with DS is OP or no. If you do, you understand. Ilya thinks DS isn't OP on psyker at all so doesn't need a nerf at all and should have just been for psyker

[analog agate]

DS was OP even on psyker. I am skeptical it would have gotten a nerf, or even as much a nerf, if wasn’t ported to other classes

It was already nerfed once while Psyker exclusive

[jovial juniper]

Psyker casually adds 100+% finesse on dueling sword

Oh and 50+ % damage

Truly a psyker moment

[summer canopy]

god 2 minutes of warp charge in a public lobby is hard

[jovial juniper]

It shouldn't

[summer canopy]

I have

2 ogrynns

exploding anything I put on fire

[jovial juniper]

So get the other modifiers

Any kills has a chance of replenishing Warp charges

Huh
Didn't know this

Psyker passes you the Warp syphon boof, do you accept it?

[summer canopy]

damn

[sullen gale]

I have been waiting for this to come back in store for sooo long 😭

I feel like I'm being gaslit into thinking it exists at this point

[marble crater]

It doesn't exist, your beloved lied to you, sibling

[sullen gale]

no, sibling, this cannot be 😔 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

my beloved? lie? how could this happen?

[jovial juniper]

Isn't Kara

A sand flea cosmetic

That was the name right?

Or was in something something railers

[sullen gale]

yeah I think so

[jovial juniper]

[analog agate]

Just gonna say it here. Anyone hating on smite but loving the electric mines on arby is a hypocrite

[deft stump]

So, everyone rn. I still prefer impact.

[leaden thunder]

I mean, smite requires the person to stop doing what they are doing, shock mines are just an area denial zealot stun nade

[analog agate]

Judging by Cole’s video the impacts do great dmg to groups

[hazy pumice]

But of course.

Warp Grass hits different.

[static sonnet]

Real

[worldly elm]

I may be stupid

I thought cruel fortune activated on ALL weakspot kills

Idk how i didnt notice that its just on the marked targets LMAO

[gray juniper]

Respectfully Sean and Karien why discuss this here because it seems like you just disdain the psyker class?

[brazen rampart]

How it feels to use the crusher:

[deft stump]

No, I just don't like smite for obvious reasons.

[gray juniper]

I haven’t played the game anywhere as long as anyone but going off how it plays and what that experience is like with the balance, psykers can keep the dueling sword. The class with the most coherency dependence, weakest health pool and most stun/stagger or slowest/close to slowest mobility needs more than one option for tricks on standing alone

[deft stump]

And if you consider the DS nerf affecting psykers as well... It's broken on psyker as well.

[brazen rampart]

I'm going to note this and come back later because I have an argument as to why those two are not the same at all but I cba to put my thoughts to words.

[gray juniper]

I don’t consider it anything. Truthfully I never tried it out

If it gets other people through I think it’s just fine they have it as it is

[brazen rampart]

"Most coherency dependence" is a lie. "Lowest mobility" is outright wrong.

[gray juniper]

Explain then

[brazen rampart]

The one that depends the most on coherency is vet.

[gray juniper]

Not when comparing health polls

Pools*

[brazen rampart]

Health pools be damned.

[gray juniper]

Nope

[brazen rampart]

Just looking at talents alone, you can see that.

And psyker has zero need for teammates.

You can solve literally every problem in the game by yourself.

Lowest mobility is also just outright wrong. Disrupt destiny speed + warp speed on scriers turns you into a missile.

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s why it’s always the psyker speed running right?

Come on my guy

[brazen rampart]

Potential of the class and the generic player are not the same.

Generic players are not good enough to capitalize on the potential psyker has.

[gray juniper]

So everyone has to pick scriers and destiny makes flat gameplay

[brazen rampart]

I'm not meaning to toot my own horn here, but I'm typically 2 or 3 rooms ahead clearing everything by myself as psyker, dd scriers or not.

Kill speed against everything is fast.

The faster you kill, the faster you move. Pretty simple.

[deft stump]

Bet you is a smyker with staff expecting to run at knoife speed with a beeg sword or so.

[gray juniper]

You’re not wrong but the class itself has to be reasonably accessible. It’s a base class like the rest

[gray juniper]

What’s your main? Not this class but overall for the game?

[brazen rampart]

The class is "reasonably accessible", players just refuse to learn to play the game correctly.

[deft stump]

Vet. I know bad very well.

[gray juniper]

Yea it was obvious

[brazen rampart]

What % of the player base do you think even knows the word "breakpoint" and what it means?

[gray juniper]

The childish remarks that don’t lead to productive discussion reveal the mentality behind the posting

[brazen rampart]

Even better question, do you think a majority of people know what rending is? Brittleness? Armor damage modifiers?

[deft stump]

Oh great, one of those that instantly goes into insults.

[gray juniper]

No but you have to basically study this game I’ve come to find out

[brazen rampart]

Not really! The resources are out there!

[gray juniper]

No Karien, I’m pointing out that you went there

[brazen rampart]

The same thing goes for vt2. Resources exist for the game to teach you, you just have to look.

[gray juniper]

I mean using the resources like that. People make texts on it and I had to read it to make sense starting at level 20 and below and not understanding others doing big things while i couldn’t

[brazen rampart]

And yet, even in vt2, I make my teammates look like lobotomites 90% of the time because they don't understand how the game works.

[deft stump]

Because you got mad when people talk about smite for being bad. It is for gameplay, same for the shock grenades for Arbites. Low mobility? Vet has literally no stam regen. Psykers still get to slide spam EVERYWHERE.

[gray juniper]

That’s the thing, I’m not mad

I did pick up the subtext of what you were saying at pointed it out

[deft stump]

And they get a net positive in stam from doing it.

[torpid void]

I need some help deciding on a psyker build. What would be best for difficult missions?

[brazen rampart]

Also I just want to throw this other curveball out there regarding psykers strength.

[gray juniper]

And you returned with and assumption that basically attempted to rag on me over assumed skill or choice. It was clearly a disparaging remark

[brazen rampart]

The class revolves around removing game mechanics.

[deft stump]

How is that low mobility unless you run Staff and big sword.

[gray juniper]

But for the record I don’t like smite at all and I haven’t even tried the dueling sword. I have it because others told me to keep it but i genuinely like the force swords

[brazen rampart]

Don't like shooters? Play gunker and abuse EE.
Want to never have to fight elites in melee again? Trauma staff.
Want to oneshot stuff at range? EK staff.
Want to oneshot stuff in melee? Scriers with a good melee, like fgs, 1h fs, ds, or knife.

[brazen rampart]

1h force swords are better but nobody likes to talk about that.

Obscurus casually 1 comboing a crusher.

And still being able to clear hordes.

[deft stump]

Except illisi... Needs a buff now.

[brazen rampart]

Anywho, the point stands that most of the issues you see in psyker are alleviated by not being bad at the game.

Skill expression is a thing, and psyker allows for the highest amount of skill expression of the four classes right now.

[gray juniper]

But that’s a trade off on perks you pick. Remember you’re starting out as Mr Glass with a psyker. You want to put all you can’t into toughness or health but have to make far more careful decisions on this than the other class and it still seems to fall short sometimes. Why? Because others will still outpace you while tanking huge hits or putting up rapid high damage

[blissful solar]

[brazen rampart]

Granted, we have yet to have arbites, and I hope that class has a good amount of skill expression outside of being a new form of tonkgryn.

[deft stump]

Take Assail when lvling. Use it and be better off than Vet in early stages.

[gray juniper]

Don’t get me wrong I feel for the veteran class. I’ve hardly touched it because it seems neglected and imbalanced due to other class specifications

[deft stump]

Early game vet has all the same issues as psyker. paper. But psyker has Assail.

[gray juniper]

Nah I saw others do that but I didn’t want it. Assail is ok but overall not as fun for me personally as screaming and screaming to clear a mob

[brazen rampart]

The only class that can currently out dps psyker is ogryn. Psyker doesn't need all this focus on extra hp and toughness if you don't get hit. (which is extremely easy, as you have the fastest stamina regeneration and access to kinetic deflection and empathetic evasion)

[prime elk]

Assail cleaving through a mob like butter is so satisfying

[gray juniper]

What’s the 1h abbreviation? Sorry i literally am a noob

[wraith sphinx]

one hand

[brazen rampart]

If two players of equal skill, one playing psyker and one playing ogryn, play a game of "who gets the most green circles" like we do in vermintide, psyker can handily win that contest.

[deft stump]

I mean, that's still better than an unupgraded gun and melee. Since cost to upgrade a non-min maxed will stack up so you rely on emperor drops more or less.

[prime elk]

Tbf rumblergryn would win the damage contest there

[brazen rampart]

Zealout might be able to keep up in dps if they are duellistmaxxing and are running chastise.

[deft stump]

Till they run out of ammo because the zealot grabs them all to refill knoives.

[gray juniper]

My guy maybe it’s because I play on cloud which definitely doesn’t help or my internet just isn’t all that in the first place, but sometimes I get hit by a random zombie or if it’s bad two of them. Two random walkers is a bigger threat and it doesn’t help when you think the ogryn who insisted on running ahead didn’t finish his work though it seemed they were dead

[deft stump]

Cloud is an issue, you have even more lag from... You ping cloud, cloud pings FS, FS pings cloud, cloud pings you.

[brazen rampart]

Yeah, that'd be why you think psyker is so weak.

[deft stump]

I play on 300 ping so I know how awful high can be.

[gray juniper]

Yes I know but it’s what I got right now. Affording the new system is a bit much for the time

[brazen rampart]

The hp and toughness pool being small means nothing if you have good connection because you either kill everything before it touches you or you can prevent yourself from taking damage.

[gray juniper]

Idk game by game I can play auric or mid level havoc that I’ve gotten to but yes the lag does foul me up hard too frequently

[brazen rampart]

For example, if the game says, "woe, 500 ragers be upon ye," you can m1 spam an inferno staff, throw assail darts, sm*te, or shriek for some breathing room.

And that is assuming you don't have kinetic deflection, which can also save you in a pinch.

[deft stump]

But if you lag, you die because half the M1 fails to hit.

[ripe obsidian]

Is this still accurate for Obscurus attack chains?

[deft stump]

I know from 300 ping flamer use. Heh.

[gray juniper]

Nah but that’s really the purpose of scriers gaze. I put the talents up to max it out and have the right blessings on the double barrel shotgun. You get that speed bonus and it starts going crazy

[gray juniper]

Lmao

[gray juniper]

Ok so maybe you guys have point. The last game I played on here with the server my lightning was falling at the enemy feet and didn’t seem it could get right on aim. I may have fucked that game for them because of that. Damn

[deft stump]

I guess you die more due to the extra delay from the whole, ping cloud to ping server.

[gray juniper]

Yes i have good headphones. I can shape rotate in my head like nobody’s business but i still get hit by materializing zombies from behind too often

[deft stump]

Yeah, packet loss.

IDK how bad your connection is from your device to cloud and cloud to server.

[analog agate]

It is so weird that high lvls (2k+) always leave if they see another high lvls

[deft stump]

No fun when fighting someone equally high lvl for scoreboard.

[gray juniper]

But that’s the problem with that. The inferno staff play is too boring. I only use it for havoc because it’s too simple and causes all this mess on the screen for everyone else

[analog agate]

Sore losers

[deft stump]

To be fair, the tryhards already modded the flames out. And you can't blind me more than the game already does.

[brazen rampart]

Hey look, that's me.

(I wanna see is a goated mod)

[gray juniper]

I may actually be better at this game than I thought if the cloud is worse than I imagine the problem

[brazen rampart]

That's likely the case.

[deft stump]

Is more as a joke. But you know how ppl already solved such by mods so eh, lul.

[brazen rampart]

Cloud ping is ass.

[blissful solar]

hit detection via cloud gaming could be okay but your actual effective ping will probably be trash and in a way worse and different from typical ping issues in the game

[deft stump]

Is why ppl say I'm not as bad as i think since I play somewhat normal at 300-400 ping... Or better than the avg pub anyway.

[gray juniper]

Ngl it is straight ass somewhat frequently. It only seems some games though not all. I don’t know if it’s others connection distance or what

[brazen rampart]

I remove visual clutter I don't like (psykers covering my entire fucking screen in neon blue fire) for visual clutter I do like (weapon customization to add another 15 purity seals to my weaponry).

[blissful solar]

karien is lucky because she couuuld play at 5 ms

I can only play at 30 (60 according to the ping mod)

[nocturne dust]

Screw skill, gimme lottery class where the only expression is luck

[gray juniper]

I’ll straight up say it I turned the peril effects down to 40% because I got tired of seeing inside a 20 degree bubble when it’s above 40% peril

[brazen rampart]

I have peril fx at max.

[deft stump]

I mean, is fine. It's not like the really sus things that if you squint, could be somewhat cheating stuff.

[brazen rampart]

But only because I'm already pretty deaf and have spidey sense.

[deft stump]

Well, that's because the servers is nearby if it's really AWS.

[brazen rampart]

(spidey sense is not cheating because fatshark can't fix their fucking audio engine)

(they can't even replicate the issues it has because they don't play difficulties where the audio engine dies)

[blissful solar]

my nearest server is like 800 miles away apparently. yours is like 2

[deft stump]

(I mean Skitarius. You can use it to do frame perfect macros easily and well... lets just say... If you thought DS4 was brain dead... You can now make other things just as brain dead.)

And they fire off faster than knoife lights with crazy aspd.

[brazen rampart]

Skitarius kinda errs the line there. I use it because I like having less mods to load and it's basically, for the intent that I use it with, fullauto and keep swinging together.

But I have seen someone frame perfect deimos l1 qq before.

That's something only a macro can do.

[deft stump]

If they do it manually, sure... But now think of a mod that does it for you CONSISTANTLY and way faster.

[gray juniper]

Damn I have to take back what I said now because Karien is probably right on the character speed. I notice inconsistencies on out running hits and bad ones where a dodge really counted

[deft stump]

So fast even a boss melts in less than 10 secs.

I think it was less than 5.

[gray juniper]

Literally tunnel vision. On cloud when the screen gets choppy I’d died so fast

[deft stump]

Even Unga bunga is considered fair as to what Skitarius can do.

[blissful solar]

cloud gaming ain't ready yet unless maybe if you have advanced ass internet and live in the same city as both servers. and even then it can only be worse than real gaming (except that is is cheaper in the short term)

[brazen rampart]

I have a pretty good handle on what's going on on my screen.

🤷

[deft stump]

The delay is what's killing you. If you can spam slide everywhere, you'll understand why psyker mobility is nothing to scoff at... Unless controller. Sliding is a nightmare with pressing left stick and B.

[gray juniper]

I play controller but I don’t find it too hard

[deft stump]

Just annoying personally.

[gray juniper]

I’m a console purist because that’s how I like games. The analogy boomer who played Mario as a kid

[deft stump]

Something that can be compensated for by getting used to it.

[gray juniper]

I that probably doesn’t help either with peoples comparative stream lined PCs but i seriously don’t find keyboards and all that fun

[blissful solar]

dont have to use kbm

probably do to some slightly extent tho

[deft stump]

And yes, the reason I snark about low mobility is because I run FGS and EK on a build. I know how slow it can be, since it's a shriek and Syphon build. But sprint sliding helps as long as your team isn't literally 3 knoife spammers.

[gray juniper]

I know it’s not that great and it’s legit frustrating sometimes. Like I get dogged in hell let loose when I definitely have the jump on someone

[deft stump]

You'll never catch up to them then ever unless they need you to progress.

[plucky flax]

This is peak outfit for the desert. Maximum cooling provided.

[gray juniper]

You’d be amazed at my intro experience to this game lmao

[deft stump]

What did you do...

[blissful solar]

🙏🏻

[plucky flax]

Based modders.

I succumed to the goon.

[blissful solar]

I will resist !!

[plucky flax]

The vanilla outfit is like a latex glossy pink.

With mod it turns to hot leotard with stockings.

[blissful solar]

normalest chat moment

[gray juniper]

I started this game knowing some warhammer lore thinking it would be cool. “Oh psykers. That looks different”. Getting dogged constantly because of quelling and yes literally paired with zealots most of the time. There’s a decent number of veterans starting out but I started to believe most do the player base plays zealot and I play with zealot users around half the time or more at higher level now. Quick play may skew something but it’s a commonality in the player base

[plucky flax]

Game is extremely hard. Ass is way more distracting than trying to dodge/block enemies' attacks.

[deft stump]

Ah, I know. When the stealth vet has more teamplay than the 2 zealots running off... That's something...

[gray juniper]

Learning to Get Gud is always a hassle ofc I don’t want to sound like I’m whining. I learned from mistakes and read up. But objectively running zealots is like a meme

[deft stump]

Well, is now more oggies because oggies OP. And Arbites will be everywhere when released.

[gray juniper]

Yea respectfully I played defense for the veterans because it seemed like they were team players but now you have me thinking it’s only because they had no choice lmao

[deft stump]

Vets have no mobility, even with a knoife, they are slower than Zealots and psykers.

Don't ask, I run knoife vet.

[gray juniper]

I seriously didn’t know that

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is slower unbuffed

and if you're running knife, you're probably unbuffed

[deft stump]

I know full well how zoom a Zealot can be from running knoife as well there. I just don't run off as much unless shinies.

[nocturne dust]

because staffker

[gray juniper]

Yea early levels you’re literally fucked without some talent tree throw away points and a decent curio

[deft stump]

Yes, but you have more stam.

[blissful solar]

never has a post been more true but also painful to accept

[deft stump]

In the sense of... You regen it faster than a vet.

So you can upkeep sprint heavy more.

[nocturne dust]

Vet runs stam regen normally, and can get down to psyker's regen delay

[deft stump]

And we are considering sane builds here. I know you can meme with Vet to get psyker lvls of sprint but TAX.

[nocturne dust]

It's actually not a huge tax since Vet already sprawls all over the bottom

[deft stump]

It is.

[nocturne dust]

It is a tax, yes.

[deft stump]

To take them i need to sacrifice breakpoints and basically take onslaught.