psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

or something

[sturdy reef]

‼️

I refuse to be bubble boi anymore

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

Can't hear your heresy

safe in my bubble

[proper osprey]

Bubble blowing babies belong in weenie sedition jrs

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

Can't hear your heresy

safe in my bubble

[nocturne dust]

I know what that is so I haven't clicked on it

[proper osprey]

He is wise

[nocturne dust]

I mean, videos don't embed like that

Get a better fake

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/demoted-russian-kid-russian-kid-crying-discord-mod-gif-23854964

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/gilgamesh-fate-gilgamesh-archer-fate-stay-night-fate-anime-gif-24884557

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-lalala-happy-spongebob-meme-gif-17980189

[worldly elm]

So it would seem the push attack on force swords builds peril lol

[ashen trellis]

As Ogryn bonk master I like funny bubble man. Makes the pew pew go away.

[worldly elm]

Which either means i gotta get in to the habit of quelling a tiny bit of peril right after I exit Scriers, or i gotta drop a talent for Warp Unbound

Dont wanna drop Warp Speed since thats real nice to have

Is Kinetic Deflection worth dropping?

Maybe ill just bite the bullet and drop Warp Speed

[prime elk]

never do this

smh

[prime elk]

only if it pushes an enemy

you can push thin air or the ground and it won't cost anything

[ripe obsidian]

Jeez, I just cannot win a mission this week.

[plucky flax]

I can help on friday.

[ripe obsidian]

Save me, Obi-Chaos Kenobi. You're my only hope.

I've been working on being aggressive with bubbles, but I am now experiencing your pain of no one following me.

[plucky flax]

Be the light in the dark./

[ripe obsidian]

Other than blowing myself up once, I think I've been playing pretty well. High damage dealt, low damage taken, most of the time. Pretty good positioning, I think. Harder to do target prioritization with purgatus, but.

[plucky flax]

[worldly elm]

I mean, im using it a lot in melee range to get to the follow up heavy tbh

With the greatsword i mean

I mean, i could drop tranquility through slaughter, but that would butcher my ranged dps and survivability in scriers since i wouldnt have a way to feasably regain toughness or manage peril while using a gun

The only other one i can think of is dropping cruel fortune maybe? Or is warp expendature worth dropping for warp speed?

[prime elk]

What does your tree look like?

[verbal thistle]

Ah.

Drop Bcob or last node on destiny

And the toughness on peril

Mess around with those points

[worldly elm]

Generated?

I do quite like having Bcob since it gives me insanely good uptime on scriers

[verbal thistle]

Generated yes

The % is so low

Fair about bcob

[worldly elm]

Ill see how it feels with warp speed over warp expendature, though if i were to drop cruel fortune as well what would I slot in, Endurance?

[prime elk]

i'd drop TTS tbh

it's not great value

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da95bc2-c968-4cd9-9b57-b0d4ef08d341/all-rounder-fgs-gunker

this is what i run

[worldly elm]

It lets me get a lot of scriers value when magdumping enemies with ranged tbh

[prime elk]

warp exp also generally isn't great value, nor is battle meditation

[prime elk]

you dont need to magdump enemies and waste ammo with warp speed, when you could just be meleeing them

BCOB is insanely powerful rn

or you can drop KD

[worldly elm]

I do far more damage with ranged than melee

[prime elk]

KD's completely unncessary outside of havoc

[prime elk]

you would likely do more damage with a melee focus

because fgs is busted

[worldly elm]

At least with monstrosity damage

[prime elk]

oh yeah i use my gun to mag dump bosses usually

but shit always dies either during scriers or during warp unbound effect

[marble crater]

what the warp is that

[prime elk]

either way i'd take either TTS or KD

def don't need both imo

[worldly elm]

What skill would you rec picking up?

[prime elk]

totally up to you

and would prob depend on the gun you're running

[worldly elm]

iag

[prime elk]

vraks?

honestly tts is prob overkill

[worldly elm]

Yuh

[prime elk]

by the time your SG / warp unbound is finished

boss is dead

so TTS won't do that much for you

[worldly elm]

Though could run recon for generally the same effect, since both are kinda dog against carapace

[verbal thistle]

Guns aren't for carapace

[worldly elm]

Ye ik

I meant like

[prime elk]

laughs in revolver

[worldly elm]

Similar sorta niche

[solid pond]

How do you guys have all the acronyms for the talents memorised

What the devil is TTS

[worldly elm]

Though recon is more crit heavy iirc?

[worldly elm]

Tranquility through slaughter

[prime elk]

too much game time. i don't have most of the ogryn stuff memorized tbf

[worldly elm]

4% peril quell on ranged crit

[solid pond]

[worldly elm]

I have the talent tree open and discord open on my phone

[marble crater]

They are pinned

[solid pond]

Fair, I feel like I should know more for how much I've played but alot of it was just memeing with the same build on vet for a few hundred hours

[plucky flax]

Hey guys new here what is pc and kf? Some pro youtuber guys said those talents are op.

[solid pond]

Fair, though quickly checking pinned on phone is some ass

[marble crater]

Playing a lot also helps

[marble crater]

Please check the pins

[solid pond]

I'm learning them a bit through just asking whenever I don't know here lol

Some of them just make sense, like VoC

[plucky flax]

How about you check it for me sir?

[prime elk]

i think tanner talks about all this in his videos

he's prob the best psyker player in DT tbh

he's the first to clear h40

[worldly elm]

Didnt tanner quit DT?

[solid pond]

For some reason I thought that said solo clear 40

[worldly elm]

Or did they only quit making vids of it

[prime elk]

(i'm memeing)

[prime elk]

if he did, that's wonderful news

don't come back 🙏

[marble crater]

How about no

I wake up to being trolled in two different discord servers, bullies

[worldly elm]

How good is pc exactly? Like is it particularly build dependant?

[prime elk]

on gunker, it's prob a 6-8% damage boost

which is good

on staffker, not taking it is basically trolling

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-video-game-fishing-minigame-stellar-blade-eve-gif-144658803614256506

[worldly elm]

Respectable

[ripe obsidian]

Hehehehehe

[worldly elm]

Does Kinetic Flayer give peril when it procs as if you used brainburst? Or does it just not activate at crit peril?

[worldly elm]

I read the description, what im asking is if it gives peril when the brain rupture procs

Or is it just a cost free brain rupture whenever it procs

[ripe obsidian]

It does not give peril. You can test it in the Psykhanium.

[worldly elm]

Question, does soulblaze count as a warp attack kill, and if it does does an enemy explicitly have to die to soulblaze damage for it to count for soulstealer or do they simply have to die while afflicted with soulblaze?

[nocturne dust]

Excuse you, Voidstrike doesn't need PC

[worldly elm]

swapped some things around

[patent jacinth]

You should really grab mettle

Or perfect timing

Whichever one it is

[nocturne dust]

not even sure what they're going for

[worldly elm]

i have mettle

[patent jacinth]

Also by crack of bone

[worldly elm]

i also have that

[nocturne dust]

warp splitting

Take it

[patent jacinth]

Shit it’s warp splitting I can never remember which is which

Because I always take both

Except on like 1 build

You can also drop the bottommost DD node

You stack slower but if you’re in damn that doesn’t really matter

Unless you’re on ascension riser or something

[nocturne dust]

no, don't

[patent jacinth]

It just makes DD easier to run

[nocturne dust]

Gunker already has points tho

[patent jacinth]

It’s convenient but doesn’t affect your numbers

[nocturne dust]

Well, actually, it kinda does affect your numbers

[patent jacinth]

Your uptime yeah but not any direct damage

[worldly elm]

You have to kill the marked enemies to get the stack right?

[patent jacinth]

If you get a DD kill every 10 seconds and don’t die it doesn’t affect anything

[patent jacinth]

Yes

Attacking bosses will maintain stacks but not gain them (blessed change)

[worldly elm]

I find allies can steal DD marks quite often, so wouldnt cruel fortune just give a way more consistant/faster uptime?

[patent jacinth]

Yeah but eventually you either kill everything first or the game spawns enough shit that it doesn’t matter

[nocturne dust]

yes

[patent jacinth]

Or both

It’s an accessibility upgrade more or less

Take it if you need it

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I only feel that way in h40

Even auric mael has lulls

[ripe obsidian]

H40 has hordes that last 5+ minutes, and no one pushes. D:

[patent jacinth]

I can keep DD stacked on most maps in normal damn or even like malice or something without that node

[nocturne dust]

I can keep it stacked too if I'm rushing the entire time, sure

I don't play the game to rush through it

[worldly elm]

On paper yeah, Cruel Fortune is a convience skill, but in practace its pretty damn nice, since marked enemies arent always gonna be the ideal enemies, like random ranged chaff getting marked when youre dealing with melee enemies or elites, or when you have allies who are also attacking in to the same horde and stealing DD marks

[nocturne dust]

Well, the mark is a lot more reliable these days

It marks near your cursor. Used to be random.

[patent jacinth]

Random ranged chaff is kinda ideal to me
Just throw some assail

Problem solved

[worldly elm]

Im not running assail

[patent jacinth]

I know

[nocturne dust]

Gunker without assail, smh my head

[patent jacinth]

I would recommend it though

[nocturne dust]

Although I'm always annoyed by assail deciding to not finish the job on random chaff

when you throw one rock and it does nothing

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[cosmic sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/gSXrnadbos

[nocturne dust]

Oh yeh, saw that

[cosmic sigil]

Apparently the nerfs coming

[nocturne dust]

Nah

My guess would be the Chinese version is an earlier version of the post, meaning the nerfs got slated for later

[cosmic sigil]

DS looks very fun to play with that riposte mechanic

[nocturne dust]

no

[fiery stratus]

chatgpt go

translate

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah. The nerfs won't come this patch

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't serve the fantasy at all

[cosmic sigil]

What fantasy?

[fiery stratus]

they wont come because they dont want the sales for arbites to bomb

and people will

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/fencing-lord-anthony-bridgerton-benedict-bridgerton-jonathan-bailey-luke-thompson-gif-25718399

[worldly elm]

Anyone know the answer to this off the top of their head though?

[fiery stratus]

itll be after

[nocturne dust]

The light and nimble stabby sword for some reason has a chonky parry where you stand still and hope the enemy hits you?

0/10 design

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-duel-sword-fight-inigo-montoya-gif-17903258

[nocturne dust]

Could work if it's a dodge counter, but it won't be that

[cosmic sigil]

I am more of a princess bride fan

[worldly elm]

Womder what other weapons arbities is gonna get tbh, like what will they share with the other classes

[nocturne dust]

Look, mahn, I like princess bride but I just looked for a fencing gif. Blame the commons that I didn't find Princess Bride at the top.

[patent jacinth]

Human shared stuff + bolter

[marble crater]

To the soulblaze or another form of warp damage, like stave attacks or force sword special

[nocturne dust]

Bolter is human shared, freak
- Zealot, probably

[patent jacinth]

Unless we get a warrior priest moment but that’s unlikely

[nocturne dust]

Zealot rework, trust

[worldly elm]

Praying for a miracle 🙏

Zealot desperately needs a skill tree rework, so many useless talents contrasted by utterly busted ones

[subtle harness]

does cleave (warp splitting) affect surge secondary?

[marble crater]

No

Damn, rip plasma if those leaks are true

[cosmic sigil]

Shame on them

I want bolter on psyker 😦

[worldly elm]

https://tenor.com/view/shotgun-recoil-fall-down-gif-17695877

Psyker trying to shoot a bolter

[wraith sphinx]

it would kinda suck with scriers gaze tbh

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is the only one who canonically goes to the gym afaik

supposedly a requirement to wield FGS

[wraith sphinx]

psyker is so bad at melee tho!!

just the worst

[sweet sigil]

its fun tho!

[wraith sphinx]

I'm being sarcastic

[sweet sigil]

ah its still fkin fun tho lol

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's technically true

Psyker is the worst at melee

Assail isn't melee

and Vet/Zealot peak meta builds are stronger (melee-wise). Just... don't pay attention to means or modes. Those don't count for data.

[fiery stratus]

does it make thing dead in reasonable timeframe?

[wraith sphinx]

psyker also has the most potential for busted safe melee like knife push attacks due to KD and extremely fast stamina regen delay

[nocturne dust]

I always find push attack spam unsafe

[wraith sphinx]

how

do you time your PA to be in sync with when enemy melee is just about to hit you or something

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you're spamming then it doesn't matter and you'll get hit because there are openings, whereas with normal play... ya just dodge

and it eats my stamina for when I actually want to be pushing

[cosmic sigil]

Taxker shits on taxevet and with SG + DD can reach heights taxlot only dreams of.

[wraith sphinx]

you can also just stop push attacking at any time and push or dodge almost immediately because of fast stamina regen

[patent jacinth]

Vet taxe is way better against armor

[nocturne dust]

and tacaxe is not anywhere near peak

[elfin dirge]

Meleeker, my beloved

[nocturne dust]

yes... but why not just do that and use better combos

[cosmic sigil]

Taxker can oneshot a dreg rager on a crit. I don't think vet can.

[uncut sinew]

be an individual, play obscurus.

[patent jacinth]

I said armor

Dreg rager isn’t armor

[wraith sphinx]

because I do what I want

[cosmic sigil]

Dreg rager is flak.

[nocturne dust]

that's not an individual, that's following the crowd

[wraith sphinx]

no

dreg rager is maniac

[patent jacinth]

That’s scab rager

[cosmic sigil]

Scab

Scab

[wraith sphinx]

scab rager is flak helmet carapace body

[cosmic sigil]

I forgor

[nocturne dust]

dregs are the bare-chest maniac ones

[wraith sphinx]

execution in 15 min

[patent jacinth]

And I mean carapace by armor

It’s hard to match 10% innate rending plus bring it down

[uncut sinew]

i've only seen one random guy play obscurus in my 1600 hours, i consider the weapon to be an individuals weapon.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you want to be a hipster of hipsters, run dueling sword

[uncut sinew]

maybe even a persons artillery.

[patent jacinth]

It’s not really an individuals weapons on account of being meta

[wraith sphinx]

since when is obscurus fs considered meta

[nocturne dust]

Most of the real leet experts here are hipsters that don't run dueling sword

[uncut sinew]

it is pretty darn good

[nocturne dust]

since its buff

[patent jacinth]

Since it has the best armor killtimes in the game

[wraith sphinx]

it's the rarest fs mark I see in pub games period

[patent jacinth]

13 seconds for 4 crushers and 4 maulers with havoc 40 numbers

The heavy light light combo is diabolical

[wraith sphinx]

that is pretty darn good though

[nocturne dust]

The number crunchers salivate a little too hard on it, but it is decent

[patent jacinth]

It’s clear speed is slow but serviceable

Well not entirely slow

Just not fast

You need warp splitting

[nocturne dust]

It suffers from not being the sidearm you want for staff

[patent jacinth]

I should play obscurus meleeker tomorrow

[uncut sinew]

it is worth it

trust

[uncut sinew]

it is the sidearm i rely on

[patent jacinth]

I’ve played it a bit I just need to actually hop on the game

[uncut sinew]

jeremy renner approved

[patent jacinth]

I haven’t been playing much

[nocturne dust]

Nice try, you can't make me play Obscurus

[uncut sinew]

you're right, i can't, but i can convince you

play it

[formal harness]

Deimos meleeker m1 qq cancel is crazy work

[nocturne dust]

I will only play the most boring weapons in the game

[formal harness]

Get used to deimos qqing and you’ll roll through elites

[nocturne dust]

Safe with my inferno, dueling sword, bubble

[uncut sinew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485954067907084300/1383683908402548796/2F639A2F-F2B0-408B-8042-3F778AC711EE.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[patent jacinth]

Counterpoint: qq is icky and I have quickswap unbound

[wraith sphinx]

man I still can't believe they're buffing dclaw though

can't wait for that update

[nocturne dust]

Cancelling is a heretic's tactic

[nocturne dust]

Well, in all the wrong ways

so as expected

[patent jacinth]

Cancels are fine I just have beef with QQ specifically

[marble crater]

You don't have a choice, you have to wait though

[wraith sphinx]

increasing damage is wrong?

[nocturne dust]

When it doesn't fix the issues of the weapon, yes

[wraith sphinx]

which are?

[uncut sinew]

try aquaman, bubble and DD, or seerge, vent and WS

with obscurus.

[nocturne dust]

Like, I'll need to take a closer look when it's out of course, but they didn't really fix the armor damage for non-riposte attacks

[nocturne dust]

aquaman?

[uncut sinew]

voidstrike

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-5494204

[nocturne dust]

The problem with Obscurus is that I don't like weapon combos

[wraith sphinx]

I will concede I am a tad dissapointed they didn't just buff dclaw's base damage stat though

[formal harness]

Obscurus has been buffed a long while ago, but it has been so obscure people still don’t use the thing

The main reason is the competition with duelling sword, that’s not a battle you win as a melee

[fiery stratus]

combo weapons are fun and ezpz to use after a bit of practice

[nocturne dust]

No practice

Only fun

[uncut sinew]

too advanced for mere mortals, i understand.

[formal harness]

Why waste time comboing when I can H1 one shot every elite lul

[fiery stratus]

practice is like 2 games of clicking heavy then light

[patent jacinth]

Because

Uhhh

Uhhh

[fiery stratus]

then doing it from a push attack

[patent jacinth]

Fingers hurt :(

[fiery stratus]

thats most weapons, combos are way more basic in this game vs vermintide

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I've learned combos for some weapons

[digital narwhal]

Obscurus is high key a super strong option, but is just outclassed by the stupidity that is DSIV, yeah.

[nocturne dust]

and I have found it incredibly boring and unfun

[fiery stratus]

idk how spamming lights or heavies is more fun lol

[nocturne dust]

no think, just click

[wraith sphinx]

the more I play the more I prefer combos and heavy spam to mindless lmbing

[nocturne dust]

[uncut sinew]

DS H1 and M2 to M1 on inferno

[wraith sphinx]

way less strain on fingers

[formal harness]

Obscurus and deimos has been way more fun to me lately
Ds4 is same old boring weapon everyone uses

[fiery stratus]

i don't need to think, even with a crusher

[nocturne dust]

Also, yeah, it's less strain on the fingers to just spam a single button (especially when you have mods that do that for you)

[wraith sphinx]

and yeah anything is better than queueing up for yet another match with a dsiv
rip ds slaves in half

make ds slaves use shock mauls for a month

[digital narwhal]

I love using the Force Swords over most other things, except Combat Knife and Tac Axe simply because they're "super light" weapons so Force Swords can't really replicate their feel, so I still use those.
They're just way more fun to use than "I poke this enemy until it dies, and then I poke this ene-"

[fiery stratus]

something like knife sure, but most weapon combos are repeating the same two clicks

[nocturne dust]

I'm excited for more sprint melees

[fiery stratus]

and most arent that fast

[quartz barn]

No thanks, smaul still gives a null dmg type error whenever anyone uses the special

[nocturne dust]

all weapon combos are just interchanging a couple buttons, really

[fiery stratus]

they are in this game

[nocturne dust]

The whole game is buttons 😱

[fiery stratus]

they dumbed it down a lot from vt2

[nocturne dust]

I mean

I did Kruber warhammer heavy spam

[fiery stratus]

also a combo weapon if used that way

[nocturne dust]

and Victor axe and knife light spam, lol

[patent jacinth]

You can fix that with like one line of code

[fiery stratus]

nahh, you do better and become a lot better as a player if you play everything and almost every weapon

trial by fire is the way to go

[nocturne dust]

I don't agree there

[wraith sphinx]

the what???

[nocturne dust]

Your senses for certain things will erode if you spend time learning other weapons, especially if they teach you opposing stuff

[fiery stratus]

if you have issues with that sure

[nocturne dust]

For example, ogryn wants to save their dodges and take hits, while psyker wants to dodge everything

[fiery stratus]

as soon as i switch a character and build thats what im locked into

[frigid olive]

the devious zero peril double barrel shock maul psyker:

[fiery stratus]

i have enough ttime and ive developed the muscle memory that i can switch builds and characters every game and not have issues with backward inputs

[wraith sphinx]

hell yeah brother

I switch up weapons on my gunker often to keep things fresh

[nocturne dust]

Bro, I haven't played Warframe in a year or so and still try to bullet jump in Darktide 😭

[fiery stratus]

trial by fire

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[nocturne dust]

Yes. I just burn.

[fiery stratus]

forcing yourself to learn something is normally the best way

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-meme-skeleton-fire-zz-gif-2672574253704646677

[fiery stratus]

i certainly did, god knows i died like fuck all the time at the earlier stages

[nocturne dust]

You say that like I'm not an age-old veteran who's put way too many hours into this game

[wraith sphinx]

could've fooled me 😏

[fiery stratus]

yeah but when you narrow your playstyle you don't really have the same skillset for the other classes

[nocturne dust]

I don't play other classes

[fiery stratus]

exactly

[nocturne dust]

I don't want to play em either

so works for me

[potent echo]

smh my head

are you gonna play the new class

[nocturne dust]

I'll get Arbites just to remind myself why I don't play other classes

[potent echo]

[nocturne dust]

[fiery stratus]

nah you'll stop playing that one too after 30

[wraith sphinx]

I occasionally play mostly my infil vet because I love right tree vet

[potent echo]

weapon spec vet

[nocturne dust]

I just have way more fun with psyker. Hard to imagine any other class nearing it in peak as long as they have to aim

[wraith sphinx]

ogryn so and so, mostly for the banger voice lines

[nocturne dust]

Imagine aiming

[wraith sphinx]

zealot I actually dislike

[fiery stratus]

bolter doesnt aim

[potent echo]

ogryn just eats poxbursters and the like

[fiery stratus]

brain off

[nocturne dust]

Does

[fiery stratus]

aims less than a voidstrike lol

[nocturne dust]

You also run out of ammo

[nocturne dust]

Not true

[fiery stratus]

if you waste it yes

[wraith sphinx]

arbites I don't plan on buying because they picked the least interesting imperial force to make a DLC out of

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike balls a whole lot bigger than bolts

and I have infinite ammo

[fiery stratus]

nobody who is a decent player and knows melee fundamentals should be running out of ammo super often

[potent echo]

did bolter get buffed recently

[nocturne dust]

If you don't aim, you will waste it

[wraith sphinx]

oh and arbites chat is likely going to be a dumpster fire of edgy police brutality memes until it gets purged

[potent echo]

i forgor if it also got the wide bullet buff applied to bolt pistols

[nocturne dust]

h40

[fiery stratus]

i dont play havoc

[nocturne dust]

and also

[wraith sphinx]

havoc fucking sucks

[elfin dirge]

It's gonna be rolling ban waves for a bit ain't it

[wraith sphinx]

failure of a game mode

[nocturne dust]

it's not about actually running out of ammo

it's the anxiety

[potent echo]

havoc lmao hope you hate shooting lmao

also fuck your breakpoints

[fiery stratus]

bring havoc modifers to auric so you can use more than 3 builds viably

[nocturne dust]

Ammo sucks and is stupid and dumb and should've never been implemented

[potent echo]

nuh uh

[wraith sphinx]

I do wish we got a sort of a maelstrom expansion instead of havoc that basically did that

[potent echo]

gunker is bestker

[nocturne dust]

behind all other psykers, yes, I agree

[frigid olive]

i don't run out of ammo cuz I have no idea what to actually use my gun

[nocturne dust]

[fiery stratus]

nobody wanted deathwish cata, we just wanted more enemy density

double edged sword

[nocturne dust]

you are wrong

[potent echo]

probably like 10 people wanted this

[nocturne dust]

Literally many of the regulars here love Havoc, lol

[fiery stratus]

mostly just the specials

ok

[elfin dirge]

Interest of fairness, I'm still begging for a Chaos Wastes equivalent

More than anything else

[nocturne dust]

true, it's like 10 people,

[potent echo]

we have chaos wastes at home

[fiery stratus]

a small minority of players of a game which probably has double the player base in unskilled console players

[nocturne dust]

Havoc players need to feed their masochism somehow

[wraith sphinx]

many regulars here
less than a dozen daily yappers

[elfin dirge]

I guess I'll play some more Mortis

[fiery stratus]

all 20 people

[potent echo]

i heard mortis getting an update

idk when

or if its even real

[fiery stratus]

morits needs an auric mode because its a sleeping simulator on damnation until the last 2 waves

[elfin dirge]

I'm going to choose to believe you because it makes my life better.

[potent echo]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[wraith sphinx]

I hope mortis gets an update that makes it much harder because it's honestly really boring rn

[fiery stratus]

all they need is an auric section

pump the density

[potent echo]

fire psyker is peak

[elfin dirge]

Slapping Auric modes into everything isn't really a solution

[potent echo]

soulblaze and orange fire

i pretty enjoy the boss spam in the latest event though

[frigid olive]

but I can just assail those

[fiery stratus]

then you run autogun or something, in which case, ragers, bosses, gunners which you can also assail

[wraith sphinx]

not really, those mission modifiers add variety to missions and it's where the fun zone lies

[elfin dirge]

I'm not opposed to the modifiers being added

But the more gamemodes you add, the more split the playerbase is between them

Which eventually makes it harder to find matches, especially for new players during content lulls

[fiery stratus]

right, whichis why havoc shouldve just been an auric extention and on the normal board

[elfin dirge]

It's a rough balance to strike

[elfin dirge]

Yeah I'd probably have liked that more

[potent echo]

just give us lobby browser again

[fiery stratus]

yep

[formal harness]

Yeah I completely agree
My problem with these two weapons though is that I need to click a lot to chain lights, and I hate that
Really unplayable without a macro

The more I’m getting older the more I realise playing legit is not worth the wrist pain from carpal tunnel. I support macros all the way (when not used for an unfair advantage ofc)

[fiery stratus]

bullyclub m1 bind build good

i dont use the mk3 knife a ton because of the spam needed, rather just do heavy light clearing with the 6

[potent echo]

i've seen so many ogryns just spam lights with knife and murder everything and get top dps

truly a good balance change fatshark

[fiery stratus]

its okay because theres no scoreboard to tell you that

[potent echo]

good against horde, elites, bosses

so much for build variety

[fiery stratus]

wym, you have m1 spam with two different weapons

[nocturne dust]

6 is a many

[potent echo]

6 is more than i can count on my fingers

[wraith sphinx]

yeah and three is a crowd

[frigid olive]

what perks should I slap on my vraks?

[nocturne dust]

If you're using it as a boss muncher, flak + unyielding

[upper sun]

@plucky flax stellar blade has eva refrences!!!

[plucky flax]

Eva from walle?

[upper sun]

evangelion

[autumn lark]

mortis nightmare mode

[plucky flax]

I dont watch that

[upper sun]

🚬 if you see a collectable about "human instrumentation project/plan" read it through

[plucky flax]

No i dont read any collectable. The lore in this game sucks

[quartz barn]

Wdym stellar blade's lore is so well rounded

[plucky flax]

Tru sorry. Good big round plump lore

[autumn lark]

the lore curves a lot...

[wraith sphinx]

so you're saying it has its ups and downs?

[blissful solar]

[potent echo]

stellar blade has such peak production

it also runs way better than darktide for whatever reason

[loud girder]

Cause it's actually well optimized

Dork optimization goes out of the window after difficulty 5

[summer prairie]

DT also runs pretty well when there are barely any enemies

[blissful solar]

yeah I think it's all because of the bajillion enemies

[upper sun]

🚬 i dont think the people who made the game thought wed be fighting 4k enemies a mission on the regular and still complain there arent enough

[potent echo]

mmm game runs bad in mourningstar

also like some environments

[upper sun]

also tru

ogryn box takes 20fps off me easily

[potent echo]

its the particle effects that tank fps

enemies are fine usually

unless they all explode at once

[upper sun]

next time theres a fucking dev stream on im going rumbler box and i will make the devs suffer

WHOS WITH ME

[celest valve]

"the lore sucks" > doesn't read any of it

ok

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-funny-cat-gif-8207130040846002929

[potent echo]

explosions?

[plucky flax]

Even the game director admitted the story sucks

So OK

[potent echo]

i want to know what happens to Adam in the true ending lmao

[plucky flax]

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/stellar-blade-director-says-sequel-will-address-the-games-lacking-narrative/

Flame me more about shit story in a gooner game

[potent echo]

the ending is so whack lmao

[blissful solar]

stellar blade 2 here we come

[potent echo]

it was me

[plucky flax]

More gooning. Upgrade from ue4 to 5

[potent echo]

ah yes at one quarter the framerate

thanks UE5

[plucky flax]

The pc port is okay so I have hope

[potent echo]

perhaps

[plucky flax]

Planning for 2027 so probably 2028 pc release

[plucky flax]

Did you get the game?

[blissful solar]

no

[plucky flax]

No gooning

[potent echo]

the mann boss challenge hard mode costume is 👌

[plucky flax]

Mod costumes

[potent echo]

mod "costumes"

[blissful solar]

i noticed that her body changes a bit with the different costumes. that's pretty nice

i want to buy it but i am generally resistant to spending money on games i have no particular reason to think i'd beat

[plucky flax]

Yeah some outfit do make her thiccer

Or bigger ass.

Oooh 2gb patch for stellar blade.

More gooning

[blissful solar]

what about the opposite

[plucky flax]

Probably tru to it too

[plucky flax]

The white outfit makes her butt smaller.

[blissful solar]

🙏🏻

[dusky crag]

Woke

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-gato-gatos-cat-gif-9981087856227803058

[summer prairie]

did you see that according to the chinese balance update blog they are thinking of giving DS a parry mechanic and for psyker it costs peril but does more damage

[blissful solar]

w0ah.......

[autumn lark]

Good

[novel yoke]

I kinda really wanted to use smite but I see everyone trash talking it lol

any way to decently use it or

[static sonnet]

Only use it when the team actually needs cc, or just channel long enough to snag everything and then let go to throw them and give you time to kill armor

Channeling it all the time and using it to clear hoards is when people hate it

Like 2 people are dead, run is about to end if you dont get a couple seconds to catch up, that's when

[quartz barn]

Wouldnt care too much about the hordeclear complaints

Its more that a lot of smite users have no brain and use it on everything without a second thought

[static sonnet]

Very true

[quartz barn]

Mfw people smite the poggy

[static sonnet]

Boss smiteing should be banworthy lmao

[novel yoke]

alright gotcha

[spark swallow]

ngl most of the time, when I see smykers I just leave them with what they're smiting.
kinda beats the purpose of beautiful melee mechanics. some use smykers properly while other just smite smite smite which is annoying.

[static sonnet]

I used to be when I was new. I was clearing damnation comfortably by time I heard that people hated it. Then I started testing other builds and realized how much I sucked in melee

[spark swallow]

exactly, if you use smite as a crutch, you'll suck long term.
I like being able to smite for like 3 seconds and push them all away giving everyone better access to important targets

stagger/knockdown smite is the right way to use it in my opinion

and not electrecuting targets to death

[static sonnet]

I kinda wish it didn't do damage at all. Even with EP the only thing it can kill in any reasonable time is Horde units, i.e. the weakest least threatening enemy in the game. If it didn't do that, people would ideally only use it for its purpose

[spark swallow]

imo, would be nice if EP effect for smite is like a large area stager when released, like an electrical explosions but with only small damage would be nice. it'll be like a situational grenade to control crowds even against those who are blessed with high stagger resistance

I would be like an awesome teamplay kind of effect to give the rest of the team more chance to deal damage

[static sonnet]

Yeah that'd be cool, instead of damage amp, its a stagger/knockdown amp. That would be more helpful

[novel yoke]

huh should I just do brain blast then?

cuz tbh I dont think I wanna do assail yet

[static sonnet]

Its my personal favorite. Can pop priority targets at any range. Take one weapon for armor and one weapon for horde clear, and you have a hell of a build

Get used tp dodging while chanelling BB to keep up your mobility and dodge attacks while you finish killing the target.

[novel yoke]

should I take kinetic flayer too then? (10% chance to proc bb on any hit against specials)

[static sonnet]

I have almost 400 hours and still peril every time I use asail lmao

[novel yoke]

cuz that one doesnt sound too useful, esp with a long 15 sec cooldown

[static sonnet]

Yeah dont take that, not worth the point

The other one is pretty damn good tho

Great burst against bosses or packs of elites

[novel yoke]

sick thanks

[static sonnet]

Press F and kill 6 gunners

[jovial juniper]

EP Smite with Shriek or Gaze

Kills everything trash under 2 seconds

Ragers under 8

Crushers and Bulwarks around 18

[static sonnet]

There's perfectionist, was wondering when you'd show up lol, you know more than me.

[jovial juniper]

Just hold smite and dodge

Peak engaging gameplay

[novel yoke]

lol fair enough

[jovial juniper]

Smite also insta kills poxbursters if you stun lock them or throw them on the ground

[pulsar hazel]

Smite without EP is mainly a CC tool. A very good one that you should use when 8 Crushers or 15 Ragers jump you and your team. The M1 on it is decent for pushing back Pox Bursters or staggering Trappers/Dogs.

The only tip I have for it is that releasing the M2 shock will push all enemies shocked prone, which is a good way to setup a safe revive.

You shouldn't spam it unless you're running EP which is fairly boring if effective.

[novel yoke]

I havent gotten far enough yet to get that keystone yet, thanks

[pulsar hazel]

Yeah I suggest trying out whatever you like until you reach 30

Lucky for you Psyker has a ton of build variety

I'd argue the most in the game atm

Pretty much every staff is viable, some have multiple builds that vastly change the playstyle. Every unique melee is viableish (Obscurus has some niches but Deimos often outperforms it unforch) but hey still a lot more competitive choices than Vet

Even Gunker has some niches. I believe laspis or recon gunker still have absurd boss dps when built right

Just have fun and optimise later

[novel yoke]

I get what you mean but I it is easier to learn this stuff as you go along, especially in a game like this where almost everything is explained by the community

lots of confusing descriptions and such, stats, like I played ogryn 0 to 30 without needing a guide but psyker is just... confusing.
so much meddling with tiny little things to ensure I dont crumple at the slightest touch gets tiring

[pine shore]

Does it get any better?

https://i.vgy.me/L7hWEX.png

[pulsar hazel]

True. Although Psyker guides are a bit of a clusterfuck atm I won't lie. Very little consensus on a meta either outside of blessing selections

[pulsar hazel]

Depends if you prefer Riposte over Shred

[analog agate]

It still sounds like you disagree with the guides/meta. Us psykers here all agree

[regal harness]

any good builds skill tree build that uses voidstrike

[analog agate]

See pins

[regal harness]

[pulsar hazel]

I just don't like the Psyker Atheneum guide in pins which a lot of new players go to

It's outdated and biased

[median trout]

for real? I use it from time to time

[pulsar hazel]

It's fine for most of the weapons there but it really needs a brush up

There also really isn't a general consensus on curio meta with psykers. It's a pretty common to see vastly different opinions on what should be ran

Although I do agree that in a lot of cases there isn't one right answer

[leaden thunder]

I Was gonna say, it's generally dependant on the player

some set ups keep different people alive better then other ones

[analog agate]

Oh yeah. We don’t follow that. The trees from Potato are what we follow. And we all agree on perks/blessings of weapons (guess those aren’t in their tree post though)

[pulsar hazel]

Who is we

because the moment I mentioned the Atheneum someone immediately mentioned they use that

[analog agate]

The main people here in Discord

[pulsar hazel]

That's kinda my point

New psykers look at the hot mess that is the pins and get lost and misguided

[analog agate]

The builds are in the second post though

[pulsar hazel]

I'll be fully honest with you, a lot of people will glaze over those messages and click the enticing hyperlink with the interesting thumbnail

Although credit where credit is due those are very good builds compiled by Potato

[analog agate]

Personal responsibility for people then. 🤷‍♂️ If you choose to skip over the builds to a 2 year post that is on you

[pulsar hazel]

Why is it even still on there then?

[median trout]

the atheneum is also mentioned in other classes guides and its a comprehensive full guide avaliable outside of discord so most people who are starting on psyker flock to it because of the "ease of access"

[deft stump]

Saw it. Made my own hot mess of builds instead, lul.

[median trout]

thats why i was using it for reference at least

[pulsar hazel]

Yup. It's linked on the vet guide idk about Zealot since I rarely play it anymore

I just think there needs to be a glow up to it or a new guide should take its place

[deft stump]

To be fair, vet guide is slightly outdated.

[median trout]

arent all guides

[deft stump]

Is still way more usable.

[pulsar hazel]

Nop

[pulsar hazel]

Ogrynomicon is leagues above the rest as always

[median trout]

ogryns stay winning

[deft stump]

Not like they read it.

[pulsar hazel]

They quite literally mention it 50 times a day

[deft stump]

Oggies can't read.

They are more likely to huck it at a heretic and kill a bunch of them.

[pulsar hazel]

I'm not really here to start fights I just want the psyker guide to get cleaned up because new players will see fifteen back to back acronyms and get lost

[median trout]

hey at least they pinned a glossary

[deft stump]

Probs best ping wardens to pin/unpin.

[pulsar hazel]

and while I like the builds Potato linked a guide that let's players come to their own conclusions like the Ogrynomicon would be nice too

[deft stump]

Naw, that guide has bolded things to copy, lul.

[pulsar hazel]

inb4 "do it yourself" I'm too dumb fat and lazy and my psyker playtime is too low it's as simple as that

[plucky flax]

Ye really good talent

[deft stump]

Just go 28 hours without sleep and cook up something... it will be fine, maybe.

[pulsar hazel]

Hence why I held that opinion. I just want the best for newbies and being medicated for ADHD myself I know the average new player will skim over the most recent pins 😭

[leaden thunder]

I mean, recognizing that is better then trying to convince people that you do know, I sure as hell don't know either

[deft stump]

At least it is great at traumatising actual psyker mains.

[pulsar hazel]

It's the bare minimum which is more than you could ask 80% of #zealot-class chatters (although they've gotten better at avoiding death threats)

(This is banter)

[deft stump]

Oh, Zealot only has 1.5 builds anyway.

[pulsar hazel]

Unfortunately true

[deft stump]

The .5 is when blight gets rotated in.

[pulsar hazel]

Hey now

You could argue 2.5 builds

Which is still 10x fewer than Psyker on a bad day

[deft stump]

I suppose, but 1 good build. 1 no choice because blight is horsedook.

[plucky flax]

I make all of my builds

Well I copy unsanctioned 's builds he's op

[pulsar hazel]

Unfortunately he's the goat

I bow

[deft stump]

That's you!

[plucky flax]

You're tripping i am not that good

[pulsar hazel]

I hope Vet and Zealot get some Ogryn style reworks soon

[pulsar hazel]

It'd be fun if Veteran had more than 1 F ability to choose from

[deft stump]

Vet just needs a tree overhaul and general buff..

[analog agate]

That will be another year

After the zealot tree and the arbites tree rehaul

[pulsar hazel]

I think a tree overhaul would be the buff they need. Atm they have the largest amount of node bloat in the game (competing with Zealot, but at least Zealot picks up good passives along the way instead of 5% reload speed)

[blissful solar]

zealot is getting fixed up first :)

[pulsar hazel]

Fair enough it's the most played class

[deft stump]

The insane point tax is why keystoneless exist.

You have to basically go straight down if you wanna skill more than just the base for keystones.

[pulsar hazel]

Which is horrible design because no other class needs to do this 💔

but It Is Known

[plucky flax]

Not from what I see. Its currently ogryn

Just a better brawler by far

[pulsar hazel]

Is that backed up by stats or just vibes? Because at high level I'd believe it but across the board I remember Zealot having a larger community

[deft stump]

Half the stat nodes could be removed and just given baseline.

[pulsar hazel]

Fatshark has to appeal to the general public after all

[plucky flax]

From my havoc 40 hosting.

[prime elk]

well that's h40

[deft stump]

Oggies OP atm. So everyone flock.

[blissful solar]

ogryn is op so it will be over represented in havoc 40 i guess

[prime elk]

idk which class has the largest playerbase, but h40 isn't a good indicator

[pulsar hazel]

Thats a very specific sample set

[blissful solar]

and they will be the ones confident enough to apply

[deft stump]

But yeah, 3 oggies 1 zealot.

[prime elk]

and not confident enough to play classes that are actually somewhat balanced

[deft stump]

Fairly normal H40 comp.

[brazen compass]

Zealot used to be #1, both because of charge and book, but after the rework, yeah you'll see Ogryns all over the fucking place

Why? Because you need minimal or no changes between Auric to Havoc on a "good" build

[plucky flax]

Tru i only play that mode atm and only host my own game. So that's from my own experience. Zealot is actually the least to request to join

[brazen compass]

Now you have Zealots who will run THammer or Book

[deft stump]

WDYM.

[upper sun]

😡

[brazen compass]

Ok, THammer, Book, or Clad

[deft stump]

You oggy player now.

[plucky flax]

I meant what I said. What do you want?

[deft stump]

[pulsar hazel]

I'm just thinking from a developer POV where they have the full census data available. Zealot makes sense since it was #1, I imagine a lot of people monoclass in Darktide since the majority of the playerbase doesn't even grind Auric let alone Havoc.

I imagine a lot of Zealot mains with 35 hours on record dropped the game but might return with an update.

from a devs pov it makes sense to pivot to that

[solar flint]

does purgatus staff give soulblaze? The DoT looks visually similar

[deft stump]

Too much work to lvl and make chars havoc ready.

[plucky flax]

Psyker best class arbites 2nd best tie with oggy

[pulsar hazel]

I have a lot of normie friends that play DT time to time and most just main 2 classes tops

[deft stump]

I'm a vet main but can play anything. Probs worst at psyker.

[prime elk]

psyker's my second most played class

[deft stump]

To be fair, +9stam is memes.

[prime elk]

after vet

[pulsar hazel]

I truly doubt Ogryn is #1 across the entire playerbase because the average casual player doesn't even read patch notes let's be for real

I mean have you seen the shit people run in the average Auric game?

I see critical damage more often than cara%

[prime elk]

tbf

that's not on them

[summer prairie]

in havoc zealots are just tired of playing a chorus bot

[deft stump]

Or just flak maniac.

[analog agate]

Yeah. FS with their weird ass version of crit dmg is to blame

[pulsar hazel]

Tbh most of the Havoc playerbase is sub 25, they just want those pants

[summer prairie]

there are so many ogryns now that just chase damage and don't even play their role

[hybrid lark]

Serious question. Does anyone have a good support psyker build that they're using? Not sure what to do for mine and could use suggestions

[deft stump]

I don't mind playing chorus bot...

Then again, I'm that person willing to play pos 9 Spirit Breaker because the last guy didn't pick a support.

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[summer prairie]

tbh it probably was

[analog agate]

A good support build would be a havoc inferno/VB build with shield. Or EP smite build with venting shriek

[plucky flax]

[brazen compass]

The players are emulating their characters

[pulsar hazel]

Check the second pinned message for the voidblast/inferno builds. They usually have the most crowd control and when you build for bubble shield psyker you'll be supporting plenty.

There's lots more ways to play a "support" psyker role than those two builds

[brazen compass]

Hell I've seen H30+ Ogryns with questionable loadouts, applying to join my Havoc game

[plucky flax]

What's oggys role?

[brazen compass]

Slap and clap

Simple as

[summer prairie]

keep the little ones safe

[brazen compass]

Not if they're runts

[pulsar hazel]

just being an anchor and revivebot better than anyone else in the game

[deft stump]

Tank and spank.

[pulsar hazel]

Inb4 VoC with revive node

[plucky flax]

Me smash left click spam and call it a day

[summer prairie]

at least don't ignore high priority targets just because they don't do any damage to you

[brazen compass]

You're an Ogryn now, that's dead 'ard finkin'

[summer prairie]

a lot of ogryns just blindly melee horde or boss for big damage when everyone else is getting shredded

[pulsar hazel]

Unfortunately yeah

[brazen compass]

You mean.. my ranged weapons with immense stagger aren't meant for trash mob clearing...?

[deft stump]

You go in, you press taunt, you hit things. Is accurate.

[plucky flax]

Shooters are my priority 1

I like to charge back line

[brazen compass]

that's what we're made for

[jovial juniper]

Fire Trauma

[brazen compass]

That's what charging literally does, you go through them

[pulsar hazel]

A good ogryn is like a constantly exploding Shedder grenade with a pickaxe

[brazen compass]

Or A Pimp Named Slickback

[pulsar hazel]

A bad ogryn fucks off and dies in a corner

[deft stump]

Naw, I die from being knocked off more often.

Hard to dodge stomps with 300-400 ping.

You have to predodge at the right time.

[pulsar hazel]

Off topic but doesn't Darktide have weird lag compensation that inversely affects people with low ping negatively

[brazen compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1383137840803877044/8mb.video-Wl0-2YHiE8il.mp4?ex=6853a1be&is=6852503e&hm=55cfb21aacdec732a39ff02d7cd4c2d1ea68b5e705c2b2809e7ca795118dcf3e&

[pulsar hazel]

Like at 0 ping you physically can't dodge snipers or some bullshit

[deft stump]

You want to be around 50-150 ping.

Lower is easier, but also can be harder. Over 200 is rubberband 0.5-1 sec delay stuff.

Also the timing for dodging and blocking is all off.

[pulsar hazel]

Yeahh it feels like getting Wonder of U'd over and over

[deft stump]

But will say this, you want 5-49 ping over 200+.

But yeah, the compensation only works up to around the 150 ping range.

Then is like, shrug of god.

[ripe obsidian]

Karma, says the daemonhost.

[steady yarrow]

DS Nerf? 😮

[brazen compass]

"Lol" says the Zealot, "lmao"

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/not-yet-mace-windu-star-wars-gif-9797353

[patent mango]

ds nerf soon...... hopefully.....

[prime elk]

in before fatshart pussies out because of the review bombing

[marble crater]

DS and Plasma nerfs, Arbites, vet mains in shambles

[prime elk]

and calls off all the plasma/DS changes lol

[autumn lark]

they wont

[prime elk]

how do you know that

[marble crater]

Review bombing because of balance changes is also pretty pathetic

[deft stump]

To be fair, where new weapon? Where two handed sword? Where power fist?

[marble crater]

Don't look at me, I don't have them

[deft stump]

I see you hiding them from us...

[ripe obsidian]

I mostly use DS for mobility. So long as that stays the same, I don't care that much. It will suck a bit to lose the ability to poke my way through crushers, but alas.

I will just interpose an Ogryn between me and them

[summer prairie]

if it gets parry, it's going to be even better for that purpose

though maybe not with 4% peril cost

[deft stump]

Would it be less on my build?

[summer prairie]

Your build? It should be affected by peril resistance

[ripe obsidian]

Question: when parrying, if 2+ enemies hit you at the same time, do you take damage from the ones beyond the first, or does it count as blocking?

I have barely used the dclaw

[deft stump]

Peril reduction up the wazoo.

Literally all of them on the left side.

To be exact, I take 1.5% peril per DH atk combo.

So 4 hits.

[jovial juniper]

You block those

Recently buffed to block those

[ripe obsidian]

Neato

[ripe obsidian]

"I came across your profile on Job Portal and thought you’d be the right fit for position Desktop Support Technician with Field Service we are currently looking to hire in [location redacted]. I have the Job description below and would like to discuss further if this interests you."

Yes, I would like to regress my career by several stages to be tech support again. This is what I have always wanted.

[wind wind]

I wanna try scriers gaze gunker with smite (because fuck assail, i want my goddamn psykinetics aura) and the weapon being the heavy laspistol.

Any Playstyle recommendations/tips and tricks other than pop ability, run around and shoot people in the face?

[analog agate]

From exploits

https://youtu.be/OT1xC1bzDJs?si=Hg4wnEZLNTztFiyO

[prime elk]

Giving up warp rider to take smite 😭

[summer prairie]

perfect timing for that big smite damage?

mind in motion

not sure about this build

[plucky flax]

The only reason to play smite with gun/melee is because you want psykenetic aura.

[analog agate]

Lol idk. I just know Exploits uses/used it

[hybrid lark]

So how is this Fire Trauma build suppose to work? I just spam my Voidblast and then shriek then repeat? o-o

[analog agate]

Yes yea

[hybrid lark]

ah okay

[prime elk]

Psykinetics is near worthless on most gaze builds with how strong BCOB is atm

[elfin flower]

Which is better for empowered psionics.

1. 10% chance to 15% on any kill
2. Guaranteed on elite kill

[analog agate]

I think this is what I tried when I did a smite/gunker build when exploits was talking it up

[jovial juniper]

Exploits just like MiM

[jovial juniper]

Like that's it
He just likes it

[analog agate]

But I didn’t like it. Assail ftw

[hybrid lark]

Any specific blessings/perks I should put on my Voidblast staff for Fire Trauma?

[analog agate]

Flak/crit chance. Blazing spirit/nexus

[hybrid lark]

ty

[prime elk]

Guaranteed

[autumn lark]

rending shockwave warp nexus flak carapace

[analog agate]

That isn’t fire trauma

Literally missing the 🔥 part

[elfin flower]

I'm just curious is this build okay it feels great on for my melee focused pysker but I am not really a pysker players so I don't know if I am just running around with a scuffed build

[prime elk]

BB is a very poor investment

[elfin flower]

Why it does great damage and paired with scrier it dishes out the damage and takes out the important targets

[prime elk]

It can fail to one shot dogs

Smite and Assail are both just stronger rn

[verbal thistle]

all 3 do different things

not very easy to compare

all are very powerful considering they are "grenades"

[weak sierra]

BB is awesome because of the simple fact that you only need to have an enemy in your LOS once to lock in
then you can fuck off behind cover while it charges

it's pretty much the only attack that doesn't require you to do the King of Jazz routine while targeting snipers

[flint dock]

It's sliding tai-chi instead

[elfin flower]

Where is that man's bones

[prime elk]

And then you fail to one shot the target lol

BB should be faster and always one shot specialists aside from muties

And all human elites aside from maulers and maybe scab ragers

Rn it's just a pain in the ass to use

And the utility is far too conditional

[crude vortex]

has anyone found Warp charges to be useful at all?

[marble crater]

That's scuffed yeah, that looks like two halves of different builds slapped together

[weak sierra]

Beside the CDR, damage bonus, toughness regen, peril cost reduction? No I don't think it's useful at all.

[crude vortex]

aight

[narrow herald]

Uh 💀

[crude vortex]

Is that a yes or no

[crude vortex]

Yes or no

I haven't used it much and just wanted to know if it's worth running

Just want a plain answer

[glacial vapor]

It's meta on all staves outside of voidstrike

You either get buffs or cdr

Hard to say no

[crude vortex]

Sounds good to me

Thank you for your input. I don't really use staves and it seemed fine with them but wanted to see what others thought

[marble crater]

Warp charges are great because they just buff everything you are already doing anyway, you don't have to play any differently to get great value out of them

EP on the other hand really wants you to spam your blitz a lot to get the best value out of it, otherwise you are essentially wasting stacks when you are killing things while having max stacks and they don't do anything for you, if you don't use them. Easily my least favorite keystone

[crude vortex]

Warp charges have been my least favorite but I've also haven't used them since the psyker tree update so that's probably about to change if I'm gonna be using staves

[marble crater]

I love warp charges, I want to eat them

[weary crane]

Expensive af

[stark crown]

The only meh keystone on Psyker is Enhanced Kinetics? EK it’s abbreviated as but it’s the middle one

Warp charges and Disrupt are both incredibly good

[spice oar]

Yeah you gotta build around em stricter but I always like the underdog

[static sonnet]

You're thinking Empowered Psyonics, EP

[stark crown]

Yeah that thing

It’s more of a Blitz focused build

And admittedly Assail and BB EP builds are cool

I’m not mentioning the other one it’s incredibly boring

[crude vortex]

I mostly use DD yeah, easiest to build for when going for the melee talents

[stark crown]

Warp charges help a build that also uses melee but mainly has a staff as secondary

But I’ll be honest I haven’t seen a build that does Scriers with warp charges

Idk if that’s even worth it, I’m not even supposed to be here I main Veteran lmao

[crude vortex]

I could try to make one but I've run into the struggle of not having enough points for it

I would like to run it, but it's proving difficult to have the points for

[stark crown]

Yeah I mean M1 Staff is good with DD if you’re doing Scriers admittedly

But I am curious about WC Scriers

[crude vortex]

the staves hit like shit without the staff talents unfortunately but I wouldn't mind using guns for warp charges

the staves (besides inferno) feel unreliable without their respective talents weirdly enough

[fiery stratus]

I cant find the original, this is off of memory, but its close. I saw someone post this on the subreddit as a recon las build.

[stark crown]

Yknow what I’ll try to see if I can attempt something

[crude vortex]

ah they used shield

[stark crown]

@crude vortex I’ll probably DM the pathing if I manage to find a secret sauce pathing for Staff SG WC

[crude vortex]

I'll make something eventually too

[stark crown]

Obviously you don’t need to copy it to a Tee seeing I know how you like making your own stuff

[crude vortex]

I could probably just run inferno only since that seems to be the most independent of the staves

That way I can keep the melee talents

or maybe instead of assail, brain burst

I've used BB with SG before it's super fun

[rancid wadi]

Anyone got a good knife psyker build

[analog kraken]

how well does this work looks neat

[analog kraken]

i remember i saw someone here doing that once

^

[marble crater]

It doesn't

[analog kraken]

💀

i have a DD recon lasgun build but with DD not with that left one that i forgot the name of

[marble crater]

Warp Siphon/Charges

[rancid wadi]

Ty

[analog kraken]

is siphon even good anyway outside of spamming bubble?

[analog kraken]

np

[marble crater]

It's good for spamming venting shriek, so you can spam your staff more

[analog kraken]

oh really i didn't think of that

i should try that

[rancid wadi]

I dont think it has the build

[verbal thistle]

does it?

[brazen compass]

Swapped Trauma for EK, next game is full of armor packs

[analog kraken]

well the guy's right there you can ask them now lmao

[rancid wadi]

Do yous have the build for the cool double barrel knife build

[verbal thistle]

ye

few min

in VT

[rancid wadi]

Thank you

[plucky flax]

What da hell is this Xd

[verbal thistle]

need the weapon set up as well? or just talents?

[rancid wadi]

I could take it all if it's no super big bother

[analog kraken]

if he sends you on dm can i have it too lol

[rancid wadi]

Yeah sure

I think ainz gonna drop it here tho

[analog kraken]

yeye just in case

🙏

nice pfp btw

[rancid wadi]

I gotchya

Tyty

[verbal thistle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f2fe53c-adc4-4e86-8012-2114d1bb9f75/my-melee-psyker

@analog kraken

[rancid wadi]

Thank you and

[analog kraken]

aay, thank you very much man

[rancid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/its-always-sunny-iasip-good-gif-22179149

[analog kraken]

will try it now actually cuz why not

[rancid wadi]

Same

New ainz build dropped

[rancid wadi]

Where'd you end up putting the one extra skill point or did I miss one

[analog kraken]

was doing some other stuff i just got on the game lemme see

[analog kraken]

you missed sth

[rancid wadi]

Where

Oh yeah you cant see my shit

Hol up

I dont see it @analog kraken

Woops saw it

Last one the ult

Warp unbound

[ripe obsidian]

I've been using BB+KF meleeker lately, just to turn my brain off even more. Weaving takes too much thought.

[analog agate]

It is really annoying and takes effort. I, uh, maybe recently, maybe made a macro for it

[ripe obsidian]

I probably should. Just something to swap, throw one, swap back

[analog agate]

I easily did it via rebinding my keys on my Wooting. But pressing a key was annoying all the time for it so I just caved and did it in synapse

[analog kraken]

o lmao nice i just tried the build

its good but i might be too ass for it still

[rancid wadi]

Just what I was looking ror

For

It do be a high skill build yeah

[prime elk]

Weaving is fun though. Assail is so satisfying to use

Just shreds hordes right now lol

[ripe obsidian]

I like assail. It is my favorite blitz. But my brain is fried lately. Sick pets, sick partner, new job, cross-country move, etc. Turning off my brain and playing LMB simulator is relaxing.

[upper sun]

@marble crater shes bullying my wife 😡

[marble crater]

Ashley

[analog kraken]

yea for sure, ill have to spend some time getting used to it

[analog kraken]

whats weaving?

[strong gulch]

More or less alternating melee and assail.

[prime elk]

Yeah

[rancid wadi]

You can substitute the knife with an identical dueling sword mk4 if the knife is tricky

It do take some getting used to

[strong gulch]

More so toss a couple assails out between melee hits to keep peril up, help with CC, clear chaff, etc.

[prime elk]

I especially enjoy charging in, throwing some shards as I close the distance, and then using the sword

Assail is just so fucking good in dangerous horde situations

[rancid wadi]

Any idiot special mob that gets too close gets 10 assail shards to the nards

[analog kraken]

ohhh i didn't know this, will try it

[analog kraken]

noted will have to check that, knife is def tricky lmao

i tried it on d4 cuz i was scared of fucking up and i def did

[rancid wadi]

Yeah the knife is trickier IMO but I enjoy it more nowadays