psyker-class

[novel yoke]

electric didnt seem to do as much as voidblast

[glass sleet]

up to Heresy it dominates, but Auric and above it's quite mid imo

[jovial juniper]

Different roles

[glass sleet]

trauma staff is meta because of 40% brittleness and stagger

flame is for crowd control

voidstrike is the RPG of the psyker

[summer prairie]

meanwhile >90% of psykers I see in havoc run inferno

[novel yoke]

they both do ~500 damage on my stat page but the electric just doesnt seem as good, whats different?

[glass sleet]

what do they run?

[jovial juniper]

Electric staff is a quick single target crit oriented staff

[glass sleet]

my lightning staff starts off at 40% crit without any additional buffs, so it pretty much wrecks everything but somehow it's not as useful as the trauma or flamer i dunno :/

[jovial juniper]

It can deal 2k damage

No need to properly aim as well

Just zap

[glass sleet]

that one is very important, not having to aim is op as fuck

[novel yoke]

Then I guess it's bcz I haven't got the required upgrades or talents yet

[glass sleet]

quite possible, yes

[jovial juniper]

Also EK is also used on M1 builds because of the finesse stat

M1 build is very boring though

[glass sleet]

M1 builds, you mean like scrier machinegun staff builds?

[rigid sky]

You've got to actually get on well with the weapon yourself, too

[novel yoke]

True

[glacial vapor]

The Empyric resolve node and weapon blessings are a big help for EK

[late sapphire]

Arguably in auric ek is harder to aim than voidstrike because you have to finagle hits through crowds

[jovial juniper]

Yup
With Empiric Shock on the left

[rigid sky]

Like, I've heard that Smite is actually pretty good if you know when to use it, but for me it's nothing but an idiot trap

[late sapphire]

and with voidstrike you can just blow em up

[rigid sky]

(for me, and for like 99% of people too I think)

[fallen pier]

isnt smite good for cc?

[glass sleet]

it's insanely good, unless you play havoc and get Final Toll...then you suffer xD

[glacial vapor]

Yeah but people spam it the entire mission and turn it into a slog

[novel yoke]

Me me I'm the idiot who takes smite lol

[fallen pier]

I think i've seen it once being used around havoc 20'ish

[jovial juniper]

Crowd Control
Horde clear

Depends on the build

[late sapphire]

You can tell a smyker apart from a psyker who just happens to use smite by watching what they do when a boss shows up

[glass sleet]

u mean "use it accurately", right?

[rigid sky]

I tend to just use smite to stall while I'm waiting for my Creeping Flames to come off cooldown

[upper sun]

@marble crater i forgot how much of a bitch ashley was

[rigid sky]

easy way to 84%+ peril while stopping the dirty heretic scum from fighting back

[rigid sky]

At least even she still hates the Terra Firma dickheads

[upper sun]

i still havent done a playthrough without her even tho i dislike her

[rigid sky]

You just hate the other one more, then?

[upper sun]

no

i straight up saved her because shes a woman

[rigid sky]

I think I tend to pick the other one more than her, but I do save her sometimes too

[cosmic sigil]

Ashley was the maga and the other one the woke right?

[jovial juniper]

Can't believe clad hit the "woman ☕"

[upper sun]

other way round

[jovial juniper]

Also

[upper sun]

the psyker was the guy

[jovial juniper]

[rigid sky]

Ashley is like not even 1% as hateful as them wankers tbf

[upper sun]

miranda and liara are the only ones id simp for

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah Kai right?

[upper sun]

i dont even remember

[rigid sky]

she sucks, but reality out-crazys fiction

Kaiden

he's really good in 3 too

tbf they both are

[blissful solar]

liara best girl

https://tenor.com/view/liara-liara-tsoni-mass-effect-liara-mass-effect-gif-26042099

[marble crater]

She really is

[plucky flax]

Alien sex is best when it's with that girl in the gas mask

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-couldnt-hear-couldnt-understand-unable-to-hear-gif-14133827

What a sentence

[solid pond]

god that smiker build is so much fun

[plucky flax]

Forgot her name

But shes cute

[blissful solar]

tali

hard to say she's cute when you cant see her face

[plucky flax]

Her personality

[blissful solar]

yeah

[plucky flax]

And uh... some rule 34 stuff when people draw her cute ass face

[marble crater]

Absolutely unhinged

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-tali-bioware-mask-mask-under-mask-gif-16711060

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/master-chief-new-year-new-me-gif-24326731

[jovial juniper]

"Tits or ass" ahh response

[leaden thunder]

would

[leaden thunder]

I mean there is a picture of her face, but it's just a random lady colored purple, but we can see the outlines of the quarian faces and they seem to be fairly human shaped regardless of how lazy Tali's "picture" was

[main jolt]

would like some opinions on my sciers gaze build and what i can improve

[upper sun]

you mean the face bioware stole?

[plucky flax]

Hrm?

[main jolt]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f2d1acd-4d5d-4ee6-be4f-62e3bf4196b1/scriers-gaze-5

[upper sun]

https://www.cbr.com/mass-effect-legendary-edition-tali-face/

they stole art for her face in mass effect 3

smh younglings like agent dont remember......

but i do 😡

[leaden thunder]

stealing and being lazy are 2 different things

[upper sun]

(they were both done)

[leaden thunder]

that article mentions nothing of it being stolen

[upper sun]

including beeing greedy

[jovial juniper]

Not the best Blessings for big sword

And gunker gunker goes DD not EP

[leaden thunder]

unless the model made a stink of it and bioware was shitty about that, idc about it being "stolen" I DO care about it being lazy as fuck

[upper sun]

this was settled 10 years ago

[main jolt]

what would i run on the sword

[upper sun]

https://i.imgur.com/3LHtV.jpeg

[leaden thunder]

get annoyed for the right reasons other then "Stealing" unless the original artist or model go onto them and they didn't relent

it's being lazy and uncreative

[silver mantle]

Geth and quarians unite

[upper sun]

dude its right there

[silver mantle]

Monke unstoppable together

[leaden thunder]

I am not defending it I am saying you are getting annoyed at it for the wrong reasons

[upper sun]

dude

its right there

[leaden thunder]

the subtext is literally bioware are you even trying

[silver mantle]

I mean ME3 was lazy tbf

[upper sun]

dude

its

right there

[leaden thunder]

yeah and it's lazy?

[silver mantle]

The endings which were just different colors

[leaden thunder]

the game had a ton of lazy shit in it and I reasonable get annoyed at bioware for that

[leaden thunder]

I do not care about how they where lazy and cut corners, I care that they did it in the first place

[silver mantle]

Yes

But getting mad at where is alsl an acceptable thing to do

And is more actionable than "Im mad they were lazy"

Updated version I think

[leaden thunder]

I am not saying it's ok they are stolen either, but afaik the artists/models didn't make a stink about it (they should have though), if they did and bioware just continued to use it without any credit or w/e that'd be it's own separate problem, and if they DID do that, please inform me as to who did

[upper sun]

its right there in the source

would not have been that hard to go to divant art and check

[leaden thunder]

if that's raising a stink i'd hate to see them really angry

they could have and should have taken legitimate legal action since there work was used without their permission

[upper sun]

really

[leaden thunder]

you are acting as if I am defending bioware

I am very much not

[upper sun]

this is annoying me i am out

[leaden thunder]

why are you? I said why I didn't like that stuff

you kept trying to change an opinion on something we more or less agreed on

that bioware was shitty and shouldn't have done that

[dull osprey]

offtopic bros

[leaden thunder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/847815813300879360/1276072753488855171/smileybeef_-_1824476702992376093.gif

[upper sun]

bido games

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-gif-7410050725709839510

[rigid sky]

I think it's Shred for sure, and then either Momentum, Wrath or Unstable Power depending on what's gonna benefit you most. Maybe Riposte even, idk

greatsword gets some sick crits with DD, and Mettle is nice

and ee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nANdDIDQ2rc

[main jolt]

ended up switching to precog and wrath

[rigid sky]

you want the spicy crits rather than the constant crits then

I never did get on with precog so well, it's a narrow window

but big finesse damage boosts are fun

[main jolt]

i use the mk8 fgs so easy vertical strikedown heavies

or the block push stab

[rigid sky]

6 is even better with single target apparently, it gets infinite stabs or something?

but 8 is fantastic already

I only use the 8

[plucky flax]

Heavy 2 on mk6 is stab

So over head and stab repeat

[plucky flax]

I played me3 on the ps3 on release I just never looked into that. Really enjoyed the multiplayer too

[summer prairie]

Now it's a bit better, got a tip from the trauma highlighter maker that makes highlighting more accurate, apparently the way it functions by default is intentional https://streamable.com/mojcxv

[upper sun]

duuuuuuude

i loved the multiplayer

i wish it was in the legendary edition

i could have carried you for once 😭

[plucky flax]

Nah i was really pro playing the sniper class

[upper sun]

i was biotic mainly

we would have been a pro duo

[prime elk]

Assail

And been mostly using SAP recently

[upper sun]

SO i have a friend that i have been begging to get darktide

i randomly saw him in game recently

and he fucking ignored my request to join my strike team

and blocked me in DT

[jovial juniper]

You weren't supposed to see it

Smh

[strong gulch]

What highlighter is this?

[upper sun]

@deft stump if someone comes here asking for help with psyker penances and hes mutal friends with me(called lusi) please tell him NO

im very petty

[upper sun]

WELL TOO BAD

[jovial juniper]

"Sorry can't help rn, but I think Clad is available"

[summer prairie]

trauma highlighter mod

trauma outlines or whatever

[brazen compass]

Oh yeah I love it

[deft stump]

Eh?

[upper sun]

friend got DT and blocked me in game

[deft stump]

"My GF asked me to play Towerborne with her."

Actually legit reply tbh.

[upper sun]

trine is a very good coop game if you've heard of it

[analog agate]

Pretty cool. Makes VB more accessible to people for sure

[strong gulch]

On purpose?

[upper sun]

i invited him to a strike team and he said no

i invited him again and he blocked me

[ripe bear]

why no fix mako

takes 2 seconds

[deft stump]

Accidental blocks or or purpose.

[ripe bear]

slow ass devs

[dull osprey]

no means no you perv

[upper sun]

no idea im too lazy to use steam chat

[deft stump]

Some dumbells did the accidental block before cos they did the stupid system.

Is a nightmare in match.

[brazen compass]

I won't block you

[solid pond]

I decided on inferno for more soulblaze

working good so far

[prime elk]

gaze infernus is kinda cursed, but it works

[iron sand]

more staff when?

[prime elk]

they should turn smite into a staff

[iron sand]

uhh

hate to break it to you

[strong gulch]

So bring back old surge?

[jovial juniper]

The surge that people didn't enjoy that much?

[iron sand]

just a sienna beam staff please 🙏 🙇

its all i ask

[marble crater]

No.
Hi.

[strong gulch]

Hi

[blissful solar]

that's crazy

[wraith sphinx]

DCLAW BUFF DCLAW BUFF WOOOO

[ripe obsidian]

no u

You are the one being buffed. The d claw is a myth.

[wraith sphinx]

ME BUFF ME BUFF WOOO

STRONGEST TOUGHEST MEANEST

[round gull]

Hi guys one question, is worth to use Psionics with Smite?

[prime elk]

wonder if it'll be enough lol

i don't see anytihng about flak adms?

buffing the strikedowns isn't saving dclaw lmfao

[ripe obsidian]

What is adm? Armor damage modifier?

[prime elk]

yeh

[summer prairie]

Finally a DS buff

[wraith sphinx]

It will be enough trust

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[weary crane]

DCLAW BUFF

Finally

[wraith sphinx]

Dude I used the dclaw a lot already I do not fucking care

[marble crater]

Evis buffs

[wraith sphinx]

The combat shotgun buffs are also peak

[karmic delta]

Light Vanguard/Heavy Strikedown/Pushfollow (Special active)
Removed damage overrides
what does this mean

someone explain

[weary crane]

Now after a successful Special Parry, the combo will chain into the Pushfollow attack instead of Light 3; as the Pushfollow attack still chains into Light 3, this will give the mark a new unique chain.

[wraith sphinx]

Attack types

[karmic delta]

whoops wrong channel kek

[wraith sphinx]

You can see explanations for them in view attack breakdowns

[ripe obsidian]

Eviscerator, my beloved - "we removed the damage caps on secondary targets for the sweeping Vanguard/Relentless attacks,"

[weary crane]

Idk if we can parry while sprinting now

[dull osprey]

dude this buffs are again 101% moron

up the straight up dmg by 20% and increase adm from 1 to 1.2 why

dclaws will 1 shot muties without maniac on them

[weary crane]

Are you seriously complaining about dclaw buffs?

[prime elk]

where are my buffs to dclaw flak adms ffs

[weary crane]

You just can't use it to attack on havoc atm

It just doesnt work

[wraith sphinx]

Fuck off

The eternal complainer

[dull osprey]

yes cuz its unneeded and idiotic

dclaw is already a super solid lawnmower which kills anything not armored

[weary crane]

Lmao what

[dull osprey]

you dont need every wep to be dsword

[summer prairie]

it's fun to use but you'll do less damage than almost any other melee

[prime elk]

bait used to be believable

[digital narwhal]

Hi, friends.
How we feeling about some of the incoming weapon changes?

[dull osprey]

stupid all of them except the mobility changes

those are good ideas on taxe and shotguns

[brazen compass]

I'm happy for the DC Mk 7 PA stab being a proper stab

[dull osprey]

it seems nobody understands at fatshark that they are putting themselves into a trap 22 with buffs

[strong gulch]

None of the ones I really use or enjoy using (other than DS lmao). So I don't have enough experience to speak on them.

[dull osprey]

content too easy -> make more difficult content ->2 weps outshine everythign else ->buff weapons for no reason ->content too easy

[prime elk]

good changes generally

[strong gulch]

I hope the changes to taxes are good for the folks who use it.

[static sonnet]

Cute pfp, where from?

[digital narwhal]

It's my own sona.

[summer prairie]

yes content is going to be too easy now that more weapons are useable

going to have to buff DS next up to dclaw standards

[static sonnet]

Spoider

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[dull osprey]

and they srsly not gonna nerf ogryns?

[prime elk]

ah finally a valid complaint

[summer prairie]

right, this is all the balance changes

[digital narwhal]

Yeah, never.
This is all the balance changes ever.
For the rest of the game.

No more balance changes after this fr fr.

[prime elk]

it's joever

[upper sun]

smh lemme enjoy ogryn

ive been suffering for a while

[strong gulch]

I will level to 30 one day

[dull osprey]

the hellbore buffs just shows they are completely madge

near shots they up the maniac modifier

on long shots they dont

[analog agate]

I did say they appear to be balancing around havoc now and not non havoc. Though bringing other weapons up isn’t necessarily a bad thing

[dull osprey]

THATS ONE OF THE REASON WHY THE WEP IS GARBO BECAUSE U NEED MANIAC ON IT OR YOUR HEADSHOT WILL LEAVE THE FLAMERS ON 0.000001 HP

BRO

[upper sun]

the maniac damage is trash on so many weapons

like maniac damage on evi is still from an era where you would only encounter 1 rager per room

now its packs

[analog agate]

I remember when a rager pack was 3 ragers

[fierce saffron]

anyone know best weapons, talents, blessings for gun psyker?

[dull osprey]

and the shotgun buffs bro

"buffs"

instead 8 shots it will take 7 now to killl a mutie much wow such buff

[digital narwhal]

A Gun
A Sharp Object
Right Side (Maybe)
Some Good Blessings

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1374360264069218474/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.05.20_-_14.07.02.02-00.03.08.576-00.03.24.917.mp4?ex=6852ae3d&is=68515cbd&hm=e0f10d118add9284d7accdd6dd574e10ff695e8ab143abddd1e08a07c6a1b85e&

https://tenor.com/view/who-wouldve-thought-not-me-look-at-us-paul-rudd-hot-ones-gif-16080041

[digital narwhal]

But fr
Infantry Autogun w/ Fire Frenzy + DumDum or Recon Lasgun w/ Infernus + DumDum is nice.
I typically enjoy running a Combat Knife or Tac Axe for the melee weapon, and also often a Force Greatsword.

It'd be easier to tell you Blessings if you have some specific weapons in mind already though @fierce saffron

[ripe obsidian]

I hope the DS's mobility stays the same.

[digital narwhal]

I run this for Talents typically, but you could drop Warp Splitting if not using a Force Greatsword (or if you just don't want it), or drop Quick Shards from Assail if you want and grab some other bits @fierce saffron

[leaden thunder]

I assume it'll keep it's mobility and probably elite killing capabilities, maybe not it's anti all armor thing though

dancing around the battlefield and picking out gunners and such with it sounds way more fun then just a do everything stick it is now

[deft stump]

Or they go all in to it and cut anything non-armour related.

[strong gulch]

Cursed T4 again?

Don't drop warp splitting.

It helps assail a lot and anything really.

WS is not just for FGS.

[elfin dirge]

Y'know, I never thought about Warp Splitting affecting Assail

I already run it on damn near all my builds

but just never thought about that aspect

[fierce saffron]

oo ty. i like assail but i think the one thing im struggling with gun psyker is idk i feel like dodging is harder? like its hard to explain but i get hit tons of times as gun psyker but i survive so easily as any other psyker

[digital narwhal]

It's because Gun Psyker isn't quite pumping out so much mass CC.

Staff Psyker can quite easily just turn rooms off.

[marble crater]

Just play gunker with smite

[digital narwhal]

[fierce saffron]

ill just keep practicing

[digital narwhal]

Gun Psyker is basically "wow everything is going so well" until it isn't.

You are afforded very few mistakes.

[twin topaz]

What should i focus on my curios? I feel like spamming Toughness/Damage Res/Corruption resistance arent cutting it for me

[jovial juniper]

And then the assail shards don't live long enough to use all the cleave

[leaden thunder]

experiement, figure out what keeps YOU alive the longest

it's different for everyone

[digital narwhal]

Toughness, Gunner Resist, Combat Ability Regen, and more Toughness is about as good as it gets.
You can also use +Stamina, generally... the above is the best you get.

But, as Sean said, experimentation could help.

[twin topaz]

Am I dumb for dumping wounds/health? I feel like Ive seen people running 4/5 wounds build on auric missions

even for non ogryn/zealot

[elfin dirge]

Kinda depends. Wounds won't actually stop you from going down, but they can act as a buffer if you go down a lot

[ripe obsidian]

Extra wounds only help you die more often.

[leaden thunder]

health is fine if it keeps you alive, I don't like planing to fail so generally avoid wounds

[digital narwhal]

Wounds are never really a good idea.
Why use wounds and afford yourself one more down when you could instead use Toughness and just not take health damage in the first place?

[elfin dirge]

IMO you usually wanna build to avoid that failstate

[digital narwhal]

^

Don't plan for failure.

Plan for success.

[twin topaz]

True i guess

[elfin dirge]

Plus having only two wounds means health stims are worth 50% of your total health

Which is always a fun plus

[twin topaz]

Oh right

[leaden thunder]

I tend to find health helps if you are going down to melee, while toughness helps if you are going down to ranged, so just monitor what's downing you and adapt to see if it helps

[twin topaz]

It's either one chunk or 25% health, whichever the highest

[elfin dirge]

Yup

And if you take +Health instead of +Wounds, that 50% health restored is a good chunk larger than it would have been otherwise

Just good returns

[twin topaz]

noted

Also, does toughness regen speed affect psyker bubble?

[elfin dirge]

Nnnno?

[leaden thunder]

toughness regen speed is purely for coherency regen

[elfin dirge]

I don't believe so

Ye

That

[twin topaz]

I see

[elfin dirge]

AFAIK it's generally not worth taking

[leaden thunder]

there is so many sources of toughness generation nowadays it's not worth it yeah

[twin topaz]

Cause ive been in lobbies where someone recharges their toughness faster than I do. Guess the guy had less toughness than me

[elfin dirge]

Especially since things like Soulstealer are % toughness regained, so taking additional toughness will usually help you regen more than an increase to your passive regen

[elfin dirge]

Possible. They could also be running the talents that generate toughness on peril generation/reduction.

[nocturne dust]

Dclaw buffs? As I live and breathe?

[prime elk]

I think the buffs miss the mark but we’ll see lol

[nocturne dust]

I mean, sprint attacks are interesting at least

[mental rock]

Getting faster sprint and more stamina is pretty nice

[idle pond]

Hello Zola, It's me, psykerzensy, I need faive billion toughness, to pomp derg shildrin, slava psykrana!

[prime elk]

yeah ofc

the main thing is that i wanted better horde clear against common enemies tho

the rest is icing on the cake

we got the icing, but not the cake

[nocturne dust]

doesn't seem like they fixed the armor damage either

[prime elk]

yeah

[mental rock]

Some flak adms woulda been nice for the claw yeah

[prime elk]

thats what i really wanted

and they buffed like 3 adms under various circumsatnaces

but not flak

lmfao

[nocturne dust]

They buffed carapace but only for the riposte

bruh

I get it's the parry weapon but let the normal attacks breathe 😭

[twin topaz]

Shriek triggers the "toughness on peril quelled" talent right?

Quietude?

[nocturne dust]

should iirc

si

At least they finally removed target cap from evis

[verbal thistle]

Yes

[mental rock]

Yeah it refills 25% toughness if you quell the full 50

[prime elk]

They’re fucking obsessed with buffing the parry lol

[onyx cedar]

what kinda curios do people run

[regal harness]

so all psyker staff should have wrap resist as its lowest

[jovial juniper]

VoidSTRIKE dumps blast radius

[regal harness]

reason for that

[onyx cedar]

it only affects the end aoe, not the projectile itself

[deft stump]

You can keep it if all you care is funni bowling.

[upper sun]

nope auric t5

[wraith sphinx]

It's so exhilarating to play though, nothing else comes even close

[weary crane]

Crusher overheads even better

I think dclaw should have a parry blessing, and definitely a rending one like heavy sword

[digital narwhal]

Real as fuck

[wraith sphinx]

Playing and winning as gunker cured me of the constant self doubt that I sucked at the game

And it did so all over again when I stopped using meta weapons

[nocturne dust]

1x toughness, 1x health, 1x stam or tough depending on needs, 3x tough substat, 1x sniper substat, 1x health substat, 3x gunner substat, 1x whatever you want

would be my recommendation

[onyx cedar]

alrighty

[deft stump]

Get 200+ hp if you go hp. Will save you from bs that can happen like messed up double bursters.

[nocturne dust]

That's why you take the health curio and the health substat

[ripe obsidian]

I usually recommend 2x gunner, since the third one is not as effective.

1x gunner = 80% damage taken, 2x = 64% taken, 3x = 51% taken.

[regal harness]

whats the dif between Fire Trauma and Flurry Trauma

[ripe obsidian]

Fire burns things, flurry shreds armor.

I prefer fire if I am the sole psyker, flurry if I am not, and if no one else has brittleness.

[narrow herald]

I just stack max toughness and CDR

Health has little value in havocs, and I'm too lazy to switch them out 💀

[willow hazel]

While sporting overall good mobility, the Tactical Axes had only average Sprint values.
We significantly improved their Sprint profile, while also allowing for most attacks and attack starts to be performed while sprinting.

Those absolute fools

[ripe obsidian]

"

• Health Reduction mutator apply after buffs (from curios for example), but only affect your base Health amount.
• Toughness reduction applies before buffs happen, thus will reduce the effect of toughness increases"

Health curios actually do have more impact than toughness in Havoc, for what it's worth.

Source - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

[narrow herald]

That's fine, but health damage cannot replenish like toughness.

It also doesn't help with corruption either and doesn't help with any breakpoints for pox bursters or snipers

Maybe the play is just max stamina 🤔

Stamina doesn't get affected by havoc debuffs

[ripe obsidian]

I currently have 2x toughness, 1x health, then 3x toughness, health, cdr substats

[narrow herald]

Step 1: Get deflection sword
Step 2: Get Kinetic Flayer
Step 3: Max stamina, stamina Regen, and block cost
Step 4:

[ripe obsidian]

If I get caught out by gunners, I'm probably dead anyway. I'd rather have a couple seconds off my bubble

[jovial juniper]

Alternatively

Get Dclaw and shriek

Parry spam until 86% peril

Shriek

?????

Profit

[deft stump]

The real corruption breakpoint is zel with 2x 21 and 3x5 hp and 3x corruption resist.

An overhead will only down you.

Or proc until death but you can beacon the corruption away.

And yes, I do run that on my Zel. I die more from being knocked off the map anyway. >_>

Very hard to dodge stuff at 300-400 ping.

The timings are all whack.

[nocturne dust]

Gunner res is actually still more effective as you stack more even with diminishing returns because it still increases the amount of shots you can take by the same amount (and a little bit more) for each one you stack

[nocturne dust]

These are not Havoc recommendations.

I do not assume someone asking in Discord for curio substats is going to be running h40

[onyx cedar]

nah I aint doing havoc till my true main (arbites) comes out

[narrow herald]

Yeah I understand I'm just too lazy to switch them out

[upper sun]

she arbites on my havoc till i main

[narrow herald]

Stop talking

[leaden thunder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046996652583567380/1100154421238845490/attachment-5.gif?ex=6564fa25&is=65528525&hm=ad8f437d0ed9ae3aa06b52508964c4bd9d402b5e05d99360e7fd2f762f193515&

[wraith sphinx]

I can't wait for that balancing update to come out 🥺

[strange nova]

Hey guys, a friend of mine is playing psyker, and I'm trying to help them so I was wondering if you all had any advice/new player friendly builds? I've already told him to just focus on leveling/trying new things. But I'm trying to help as mooch as possible, just psyker is my least well known class. Thanks in advance

[upper sun]

no thammer buffs=bad update

[wraith sphinx]

common zealot L

[ripe obsidian]

Elaborate? I do not understand what you mean.

[upper sun]

😭 im not asking for much just like 50 more carapace and maniac damage and 2 stamina bars

i would like to be able to kill a crusher with 1 empoered heavy and 1 empoered light and a trapper with 1 empoered light thats it

[strange nova]

F

[tough obsidian]

fellow warp heads, i gotta ask is brittleness any good?

it seems fine to me but idk what the general thought is for you guys

and yall seem like you know more than me so

[marble crater]

There are some example builds in the pins, while leveling however Assail, Gun and Melee are your best friend, or your friend's best friend

[brazen compass]

It's very good but in most cases soulblaze does more outside of Havoc; if you have someone running a flame/soulblaze voidblast then rending trauma is an absolute dream team

[tough obsidian]

i do get things killed with soulblaze with my perks but should i swap out warp flurry for some soulblaze?

[brazen compass]

In Havoc though? You eat armor for breakfast

Nah, Rending + Flurry is better if you wish to go that path

[tough obsidian]

hmmm

should i change my perks on the staff too or they fine?

[strong gulch]

The only thing to change is dumping WR to 60.

The perks are correct for a rending flurry VB.

If you do blazing spirit, you need nexus for the crits.

The two main flavors of VB are

fire
flak + crit chance and blazing spirit + nexus

rending (brittleness tho)
flak + cara rending shockwave + flurry

[tough obsidian]

not really trying to go for it, was just asking if it was better than what i have going now

[strong gulch]

There is a 3rd option, but that one does not have VB as the main weapon.

What you have is fine then.

[tough obsidian]

id rather have VB as my main weapon

since i pair it with bubble and assail, makes me feel as close as i can to a full telekine

[nocturne dust]

Example (Not Actual Math):
Gunner takes 10 shots to kill you
12 with 1x res
15 with 2x res
19 with 3x res
Damage is reduced to about half (50%)

yet the last curio adds 4 shots before you die while the first adds 2

[ripe obsidian]

Math is weird and I don't like it.

[nocturne dust]

and the first is still about 80% damage taken

[nocturne dust]

[ripe obsidian]

Well, I am going to break your assumption that people playing H40 don't ask in chat for curio recommendations, because everything I know is a lie.

[nocturne dust]

Basically, it really depends on your perspective and how you look at it. Imo, looking at percentages misses the mark because you're not dealing in percentages in game, you deal in shots

[marble crater]

Incomparable mind, by the way

[nocturne dust]

It's diminishing returns percentage-wise, but that misses the fact that the difference between 100% and 10% is similar to the difference between 10% and 1% in that you effectively change the decimal point's position, yet one is a 90% difference and the other is a 9% difference

as percentages get higher, they get more important

[ripe obsidian]

The kind of math I have to look at in my day job. Note that I said "look at." I do not understand it.

[marble crater]

Yep, definitely looks like math

[nocturne dust]

I feel like I understand more of this than I should based on your statement

[leaden thunder]

mathmaticians make something understandable by normal people challenge; impossible

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I know it's calculus, and I know what assorted symbols mean. But I can't really put it together.

[nocturne dust]

Uh

not calculus

linear algebra

[ripe obsidian]

Well, there you go

I am the fool.

[nocturne dust]

Well, I'm not sure if linear algebra is the right term, but I know it's not calc, unless I'm missing a symbol.

[ripe obsidian]

My degree's in English. I haven't taken a math class in like 15 years.

Somehow I stumbled into a physics-adjacent field, so I pretend to know things.

[nocturne dust]

Fair. Math has many layers

I'm a lil math minnow compared to some people I know, their math knowledge scares me 😰

They speak in proofs and theory

[ripe obsidian]

My partner does high-level math problems for fun. It disturbs and disgusts me.

Note: this is a joke. I do not denigrate her hobbies.

[upper sun]

what the fuck is this(doing a masters in EE)

i cant even find the K variable in the sum formula

[ripe obsidian]

IEEE-802.11-2024

[upper sun]

wifi?

[ripe obsidian]

Section on OFDM modulation for wireless transmissions

[upper sun]

wait thats wifi 7 no?

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, it's anything past 802.11g

[nocturne dust]

it's there twice

well 4 in the whole thing

but twice on each line

[upper sun]

i have no idea what magic you do but thank you for getting me very high wifi speeds while i take out the trash

[ripe obsidian]

Wi-Fi is black magic, yes.

20% physics, 80% black magic.

[strong gulch]

typing stop typing that's everyone right now

mafs

[upper sun]

erm aktually it just uses CSMA/CA its not magic ok?!

[ripe obsidian]

That is an accurate statement, yes

Problem is, even though 802.11 is a standard, a lot of stuff isn't actually standardized, or people just ignore it.

I don't think Apple has bothered getting their devices certified for like 5 years

[upper sun]

(i restart routers while he summons demonic entities on bode plots)

wait no not bode plot whats the name of the circular one with the the uhhhhh zeros?

[ripe obsidian]

This is the best thing I have on hand for CSMA/CA. The full PDF is like 60 pages.

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not sure. I use constellation charts for MCS mapping.

[upper sun]

SMITH CHART

fuck those

[ripe obsidian]

It does look gross.

Anyway, it seems like there's no consensus on curios at any level, let alone high havoc. Which I suppose is good for game health, but I prefer having a solid answer as to what is best

[strong gulch]

For non havoc it's generally been 201 hp and x1 sniper resist. How you get there is up to you. That let's you tank a sniper shot and multiple bursters.

If you want to spam PA, put on a stam curios.

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, I don't care so much about non-Havoc. I get silly there.

[strong gulch]

That's the most general rec.

Hp if there is blight. There's you're havoc rec

[ripe obsidian]

You have shown me the light

[marble crater]

I'm still ignoring the 201hp sniper resist advice

[strong gulch]

that's fine

curios are... yeah

[crude zodiac]

Hey, can someone explain what "charged strikes" do? Does it mean attacking enemies that were smited or enemies in general with a heavy melee attack?

[ripe obsidian]

"Charged Strike

Your Heavy Melee Attacks electrocute enemies hit, damaging them.

Heavy melee attacks apply a damaging electrocution effect to enemies (up to 64 base damage per tick when reaching max charge level); the damage window lasts for 2s, the electrocuted state lasts until 2s after the last damage tick. Note that the time before the first damage tick can happen depends on enemy hit mass (just like with Smite itself), so the more hit mass an enemy has the longer it will take before this talent's electrocution effect deals damage. As a result, against monstrosities (20 hit mass), only 1 damage tick can be executed before the damage window of 2s ends.

If Enfeeble is selected, the electrocution effect receives a more favorable hit_mass_cost, which effectively doubles the total tick count against most enemies, and is also able to reach max charge level sooner. With Enfeeble, this talent's electrocution effect benefits from the 10% increased damage taken debuff, and attacking players also benefit from it while the electrocution effect is actively damaging and applying the debuff (just like with Smite itself).

Note that enemies dying to Charged Strike's electrocution effect don't pass certain talents' and blessings' kill based proc conditions; Charged Strike's electrocution effect also does not benefit from warp_damage buffs."

source: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

[buoyant maple]

Health + toughness + stamina is solid for KD for psyker

[crude zodiac]

Thank you, sorry, just got confused at the whole "enemies hit" thing, since it's a blitz modifier, didn't think there would be passive effects like that

[ripe obsidian]

With KD and the mobility of DSIV, I rarely find myself in need of stamina. Perhaps I am not blocking enough.

[ripe obsidian]

No reason to apologize. Fatshark words things ambiguously. I just like linking sources so people can do further reading.

[plucky flax]

Don't take stamina as psyker. Just take kd.

[ripe obsidian]

Currently I am pondering what ratio of toughness to health primary stats, as well as CDR/gunner resist/whatever else substats

[strong gulch]

Gamble 40k melks to get stam curio because brunt won't sell you one.

[ripe obsidian]

I have 5 +3 stam curios

I just don't use them

[strong gulch]

real ones??

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

[strong gulch]

Also, make that 40k melks spent on your 3rd psyker that you don't play.

I feel like Clad is gonna appear and respond to me with "blocked".

[ripe obsidian]

I have 2 psykers currently, just so I can have male and female voice lines.

[marble crater]

Take both

[plucky flax]

Okay stay noob.

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

i would say

play ogryn NOW

[marble crater]

Why is Agent so mean to me

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-gae-pepe-julien-gif-13687553676606303412

[upper sun]

because ur not super pro in mass effect 3 multiplayer like us

[marble crater]

I never even played it, I think

[upper sun]

see

[buoyant maple]

DS4's block template is way better than most other weapons yea

just speaking in terms of force swords

since deflector gets notable value in havoc

[upper sun]

because it was made for psyker who has zero stamina

[ripe obsidian]

Fair. I shall bear that in mind. I don't melee super often, but DSIV feels nice to zoom around

[analog agate]

They really did fuck up with the egalitarianism for the ds iv

[hazy pumice]

I'm wondering if the Arbites class is gonna have its own channel. Probably, right?

[static sonnet]

Well yeah

[hazy pumice]

Regardless, more Psyker oriented topic, uhhh

Favorite Blitz and why

Go, Now.

The big clown demands it.

[ripe obsidian]

Assail because it feels fun and dynamic to use, unlike the other two.

[static sonnet]

BB because I can pop anything at any distance

[hazy pumice]

Assail and Smite because crowd control tickles my brain.

[static sonnet]

I have melee for armor, flames for hoard, and BB for ranged elites

[hazy pumice]

Smite if I'm running Auric because it shuts down literally everything but Monstrosities.

[onyx cedar]

assail is fun

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, smite is strong, but it's boring.

[jovial juniper]

Smite

[hazy pumice]

Smite can be boring as shit, yeah

Alas, its also a cornerstone of a lot of really strong teams.

[jovial juniper]

Literally control the battlefield on my CDR filled adventure

Then a second favorite is brain burst

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't seen smite in ages, honestly. But I am also usually the only psyker on a team

[hazy pumice]

THIS, I see so few psykers.

Its always Vet or Zealot squads.

I'll sometimes see some Ogryns

[onyx cedar]

i wanted to like brain burst more, but the passive casting plus charge time is kinda like... eh...

[hazy pumice]

BUT THEN WHEN I DO SEE OTHER PSYKERS THEY'RE THE ENTIRE GODDAMN TEAM

[ripe obsidian]

I use BB with purgatus or blaze trauma, just because it gets the fire stacks up higher

Pop the heads

And gives me a tool for enemies at range

[deft stump]

Wow, such mean, very unkind.

[proper osprey]

Brain burst

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/puke-vomit-throw-up-sick-gif-17408662

[young cliff]

Assail for me, like seeing shiny stones go flying to give heretics a headache

[proper osprey]

Bb and assail are pretty good I hope they rework smite

[young cliff]

Brain burst is nice answer to snipers, bit I feel it lacks some flexibility for mid range where psyker usually performs better imo

Smite just doesn't feel like works side to side with psyker kit

[proper osprey]

Tbf I only use it for specials

And snipers

Bb gives insane target priority

[zinc phoenix]

Shock maul buff sounds cool but my heart belongs to the fuckin great sword

[young cliff]

Honestly feels that smite is it's own minigame inside psyker, it doesn't really flows that well as support tool for the class imo

Kinda what I want for EP to be, something that transforms the blitz on its own thing, but even base smite is boring

[proper osprey]

Only time it’s good is waves of dogs or mutants

Or if a disablers like a trapper is behind a ton of enemies

[young cliff]

Yeah, bit that would be use and stop to make use of the other tools, smite was oddly made to be sustained

[proper osprey]

Speaking of line of sight is so important but goddamm trappers behind 12 bulwarks and crushers is awful

[young cliff]

Yeah, it would be neat if the smite helped that cases without being so boring

[proper osprey]

I had a situation yesterday like this but with 3 trappers

[young cliff]

I usually just FGS moonbeam them

[proper osprey]

Just make it a big damage aoe

Puts you at 100 or 99

[young cliff]

Make it an electric anti horde shotgun

[proper osprey]

That wouldn’t be terrible

There’s so many cool things they can do with it

If it does become that they better update the sound design on it

[young cliff]

Same would go for EP, they should stop trying to make the keystone a buff to the blitzes and embrace making them feel entirely different (assail instead of knifes is mini grenades, brain burst now jolts in an area, smite now is a focused beam, there is potential to make them an entire subtype of builds there)

[hazy pumice]

So do I because honestly it just feels boring and overpowered.

Maybe also make the left and right click have different functions, at least in some capacity since

Smite's left click, raw, has literally no purpose aside from being an annoying shitty little lightning blast

[young cliff]

Left has more range, but imo would be neat that left is the cc mode and right charged is the damage one, doing minor cc but dealing ok damage in the process depending of charge time

[nocturne dust]

Noobing your way through h40 is the best way to play h40

[oblique zinc]

[weak sierra]

havoc isn't fun when you have bad teammates
and I'm the bad teammate

[tired estuary]

I always have fun when havoc pubs include somebody with unleveled weapons

[weary crane]

Well when you see shit like this...

[worldly elm]

Force greatsword is so goated

Tried it out for the first time today, it feels so fun to use

Also the animations

[fringe garden]

It's glorious

It makes life worth living

[worldly elm]

Makes me feel like for if but a second, that im not a stim-addicted paranoid schizophrenic with the physical strength of a legless wingless housefly

[fringe garden]

Well, that's certainly a thing

[worldly elm]

Granted, ive never rune DS on psyker yet

[patent jacinth]

Have you tried melee psyker ever

[fringe garden]

DS doesn't fit the Psyker vibe for me. never enjoyed it

[worldly elm]

Yeah, mostly with the blaze force swords though

[fringe garden]

People say "melee psyker" as if FGS needs anything more than a Disrupt Destiny build to kick ass lol

[worldly elm]

And theyre not bad, but psyker is so squishy that they can tend to make you feel pretty vulnerable with how clunky they are

[patent jacinth]

Wdym clunky

Psyker is fast as hell

[fringe garden]

Maybe he means more like it has no room for error

[patent jacinth]

That is true

[fringe garden]

I could see how a newer player might feel like that is clunky

[worldly elm]

Moreso just dont like the specials on em

[patent jacinth]

Melee psyker is feast or famine

[worldly elm]

Mainly the mark 4

[patent jacinth]

Win or eat shit

[worldly elm]

Been warming up to the mark 5 tho

[patent jacinth]

Nobody uses numbers for force swords

[fringe garden]

Oh the blaze swords

the blaze swords themselves are kinda mid. Deimos is okay for elite deleting

[patent jacinth]

Obscurus has the best carapace killtimes in the game

[fringe garden]

Illisi doesn't really serve a purpose with FGS existing

[worldly elm]

Thats the only way i remember em since fuck if im memorizing all the names

[fringe garden]

Yeah, they have a narrow niche.

[patent jacinth]

4 crushers and 4 maulers on havoc 40

[worldly elm]

Never used the mk 2 actually

[patent jacinth]

Obscurus suffers from middle child stigma from back when it was bad

Now its insane

[worldly elm]

Did it get buffed recently?

[patent jacinth]

Like back in secrets of the machine god or something

It just took people time to pick up on the fact it was actually good

Like Tac Axe

[worldly elm]

Honostly, the blaze swords are the only melees i really used on psyker all that much since like

[patent jacinth]

Try tac axe

Its actually perfect for melee psyker

[worldly elm]

The heavy swords feel like ass to use, all the chain weapons are the same, could never get a good dueling sword or knife roll, and the axes never really spoke to me

Will try tac axe tho

Think i messed with it breifly on vet

Though i dont think i ever really used it all too much

[patent jacinth]

Tac axe requires a specific breakpoint to function

Brusier 1 shot headshot with a heavy

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e477e30-624d-48a3-b54a-8097ca8a4145/simply-just-a-little-tac-axe-psyker

[nocturne dust]

Shush tacaxe lover

If tacaxe is so good, why is Fatshark buffing it? Checkmate, axe-wielding maniacs

[azure quarry]

What's the difference between the three Blaze Force Swords?

[nocturne dust]

Deimos and Obscurus are cool.

Illisi is not.

[azure quarry]

I don't see much difference than just damage for the first two

[patent jacinth]

Illisi pretends to be good at horde clear (its really bad at it)
Deimos does good single target damage and insane single target stagger
Obscurus has the best carapace killtimes in the entire game

[nocturne dust]

Deimos is good against elites with the h2's heavy stagger. Obscurus is better at hordes and about the same against elites.

Neither wants to use the special ever, fyi

[azure quarry]

so eth Mk V is crap?

oh so never use the special on the force sword?

[patent jacinth]

Yeah

[nocturne dust]

And Deimos loses out on damage but wins in safety

[nocturne dust]

unless you run Illisi

[patent jacinth]

Its supposed to be good at singletarget but just swinging more is better damage for time

[azure quarry]

I was look at a build that uses Deimos and I was just confused since there was no obvious differences in the Obscurus and Deimos

[ripe obsidian]

Is there a mod to get h40 enemies in the psykhanium?

[patent jacinth]

I have no idea but I'm pretty sure they just load an h40 game in solo and do testing there with creature spawner

[ripe obsidian]

Fair

[strong gulch]

There's mods geared for testing.

[deft stump]

Illisi only good for stroking.

[strong gulch]

It's sets up scenarios in a live-ish setting

[azure quarry]

So Deimos is better for single target damage? What's my best mob damage? I'm running Smite with an Electrostaff.

[patent jacinth]

Obscurus is best for singletarget
also, eww

[nocturne dust]

Deimos is safer and easier to handle

[prime elk]

Smite with shriek will work

[azure quarry]

Yeah just sometimes when a horde pops on and swarms me I'm like AHHHHHHH

[worldly elm]

I mean, depending on how ypu have smite built you can literally just stop hordes in their tracks

Then watch as your allies dont attack a single one of the smited enemies

[patent jacinth]

Or you could

Kill the horde

[nocturne dust]

oh and obligatory
So you're saying Obscurus suffers from... obscurity 😎

[azure quarry]

I know. I'm talking when I get hit unexpectantly so they are already on top of me

[prime elk]

Glad it's good now

[azure quarry]

cause sometimes teammates are also just to busy eating paint chips

[worldly elm]

Then you spam dodge and hope the emperor doesnt have you on his shitlist

[prime elk]

Very strong single target, and decent horse clear

[worldly elm]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-horse-horse-drunk-horse-long-face-gif-23615595

[worldly elm]

I find on psyker, if enemies get the jump on me, im already dead

[azure quarry]

Yeah I'm finding that out the hard way

[worldly elm]

Psyker is built like a wet napkin, since a lot of their survivability is very offensive-oriented (outside shield)

[azure quarry]

and I'm also really used to Vet

[worldly elm]

You kinda have to not get caught off guard and play pretty proactivly since pretty much any enemy can roll your shit at a moments notice if youre not paying attention

[patent jacinth]

Thats why you just Pay Attention™

[worldly elm]

Or use your allies as meatshields

[azure quarry]

also I'm not lvl 30 yet so the randos I end up matched are sometimes the results of No Child Left Behind.

[worldly elm]

Literally every other class is obscenely tanky comparativly

[willow hazel]

Try spamming push attacks

Makes you melee resistant and the stamina regen fast

[worldly elm]

Oh yeah psyker does have good push/blocks with their stamina, iirc theres a blessing on most melees to block ranged attacks when blocking too

Or maybe its a talent, i forgor

[worldly elm]

Maybe its just on the force weapons now that i think about it

[azure quarry]

Blaze Force Sword has Deflector

[worldly elm]

I always forget when i have deflecter on though

If im running a weapon without it, ill try to block ranged, if im running a weapon with it, ill forget to block ranged

[patent jacinth]

Deflector is lame

You can use that stamina to sprint slide loop at the problem

[worldly elm]

Not always that simple tbh

Though i do aggree that theres better options

Nice to have as an option though

[nocturne dust]

Sounds like a KD-less skill issue

[warm flare]

what can you do about pyskers nonexistent toughness in aurics

fact that 3 ranged chaff can knock your toughness is astounding to me

[pulsar hazel]

does anyone have a good EK m2 build for Havoc?

[prime elk]

Block and push more. Psyker gets a lot of defensive tools, including simply killing everything before it can touch you

[warm flare]

ah so i suffer a skill issue

fucking wonderful

[analog agate]

Don’t get hit more than once. If you do, make sure you are killing things. Psyker’s shit out toughness via killing

[warm flare]

mmmm

if only smite could crit

could solve my issues

then again that would probably be a little broken

i bet blaze force sword with that one block ranged attack perk might help me

[prime elk]

No... but yes

[warm flare]

my biggest issue is where theres not alot of enemies, and theres only like 3 ranged chaff hidden somewhere that just fuck me. its out of combat where this is the issue basically

its fucking annoying

[prime elk]

Psyker also plays very differently from other human classes

[prime elk]

What are you normally playing?

[warm flare]

smite

[prime elk]

Oh

Sorry, you deserve it

[warm flare]

my smite build is actually pretty good

💔

[prime elk]

EK?

[warm flare]

doing some minor edits

hold on

[prime elk]

A lot of it just comes down to proactively reacting to threats

And good situational awareness

[analog agate]

I mean. If your smite build is good and you are good with smite is no wonder you are struggling without it. Smite trivializes a lot of game mechanics

[prime elk]

Since psyker doesn't get VOC or iron will like vet

[pulsar hazel]

pls

[prime elk]

Or literal invincibility

[warm flare]

im not a smite main

i suffer from this skill issue even on other pysker builds

[prime elk]

Just gotta practice that situational awareness

Esp with audio cues

[warm flare]

warp unbound smite or venting shriek smite?

[prime elk]

Shriek better for smite damage imo

[warm flare]

which has a longer duration to keep smite active?

[prime elk]

Haven't actually tested tho

[warm flare]

i think scriers does

[prime elk]

Scriers

[warm flare]

yeah

[analog agate]

Scriers does. But venting better

Cause it actually kills in a reasonable time

[prime elk]

yup i'd still take vent over scriers

[paper harbor]

There’s the protogen here

Among us

[paper harbor]

Psylot is funny

GSword and SG

I believe I am a zealot as a psyker

[rigid sky]

Smite really wants to be paired with shriek

it holds enemies still and helps you hit that magic 85% peril easily

[warm flare]

does smite hit weakspots?

im not really sure how it works specifically

[prime elk]

idts

[warm flare]

fuck

alright

i think my build performs better than VS

ima be deadass

even in terms of damage

[prime elk]

well smite is strong

[twilit rover]

I love a good gunner psyker with assail, but love the team play of dome and staff.

Anyone able to share insight or a build tree of a dome & Assail build that would work in higher level content like havoc 30+?

Or is it just really a good build in that level of content

[warm flare]

yeah but

i think this might actually be better than venting shriek

while SG is active

[analog agate]

Bubble bubble bubble knight build

https://youtu.be/7kvE2p0OOzw?si=TVlKmn_f9wLrNhIU

You can do EK probably instead of gun

[twilit rover]

Ty bro

[patent mango]

chinese steam client leaked ds changes lol

[analog agate]

Unfortunate for deimos if those are true too. We will see how bad it is.

At least we have fgs

120% to 60% rending

[patent mango]

bad? it might actually be interesting now

[analog agate]

As in how the uncanny nerf affects deimos.

[patent mango]

nah i think thats only for ds

unless this is wrong

[analog agate]

Ohhhhh

Missed that

Obby and deimos ftw

[patent mango]

lol

psyker stay winning

[prime elk]

is this uncanny strike?

[patent mango]

yes

on ds

[prime elk]

lol they specifically only nerfed uncanny strike on DS

i don't mind tbh

[patent mango]

i have no idea whats up with those notes tbh

they dont seem to mention these are future changes

maybe its an earlier version of patch notes? dunno

[prime elk]

yeah perhaps

[deft stump]

I mean, translation takes time. They might have chosen to redact the changes for now but the translator didn't get the note to not add those.

[warm flare]

yeah im convinced this is better than venting shriek

[prime elk]

you almost got burstered right there if it weren't for your teammate

the smite brainrot is real

[warm flare]

smite wouldve caught it

mimimimimi

smite knocks back bursters and explodes them

[prime elk]

not likely given it was coming from behind

[warm flare]

it wouldve

ive had similar experiences

[paper harbor]

That is quite heavily nerf but if is deal moderate to armored feel alright with fair point of sword vs thick steel

[prime elk]

don't count on it

[warm flare]

the PB incident besides the point though lmao

im gonna post a better clip in a second

[paper harbor]

Making sleepiest gameplay you believe

[warm flare]

youre all missing the point of this build

this build is not meant to be exciting

its meant to be effective

which it is very

[paper harbor]

Meta slavery

[warm flare]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kvVCz9zTIPwQCL-LL?invite=cr-MSxOb2QsMzk5OTU2NjU4

[warm flare]

meta is something that is really good no matter what you really do with it

such as DS

it requires no real building to be very good

[paper harbor]

Skill vs meta something like that

Meta make cheesy build with lesser effort

Skill with mental gymnastics

[warm flare]

im not surprised lumii got banned here

[paper harbor]

Being too meanie

[warm flare]

i can barely put up with the meta excuse myself

[paper harbor]

That’s got him banned

And I missed him

[prime elk]

No hard feelings but I'm gonna barrel you if I see your smiting the entire time in one of my games

[warm flare]

yeah skill issue

not my fault i can make really good builds

[paper harbor]

Watch me use recon and smite then

[deft stump]

I mean, he basically flames you for going off meta.

[paper harbor]

And wall shield

[warm flare]

lumii has never shit on me for using non meta

infact lumii sees meta users as generally bad

[deft stump]

You being general you.

He hated my h40 build lul.

[warm flare]

show me it

[paper harbor]

He want pay bitcoins assassin to kill you

[warm flare]

yeah nah

point proven

venting shriek is a worse take vs warp unbound

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-what-have-i-done-confused-sad-gif-3575836

I helped enable this

[deft stump]

You can find it around. The Zel build. I do use my knoife instead now though. More crits.

[paper harbor]

Well he’s lumii “indoctrinated” 😔

[warm flare]

lumii knows how to make proper builds

[paper harbor]

You will live like Divinity bitch well-lock in destiny 2 raid

[warm flare]

i dont understand what that means

nor do i care ngl

[paper harbor]

Just meta slave player

[warm flare]

how is this meta

i dont see anyone use warp unbound smite

always venting shriek

sorry for finding a better alternative

[paper harbor]

I meant the destiny 2 player bro

[warm flare]

what does destiny 2 have to do with anything here

[paper harbor]

Similarity of meta usage

And slave to it

[deft stump]

So why is it wrong to run it? It's off meta and for fun. Even if I generally don't like current smite.

[warm flare]

nothing is

[paper harbor]

If you got follower you made the build, you created the meta slavery

[warm flare]

nothing is wrong with running this build

[paper harbor]

And they’ll follow you as new Lumii

[warm flare]

thats what im getting at

its better than venting shriek smite yeah, but its not meta

[paper harbor]

There was a guide maker named Potato

Sure they can tell what is this or that

Because they play psyker a lot

[brazen compass]

Oh, all we need to do is ask Mr. Unsanctioned @marble crater

[paper harbor]

Is he also psyker main?

[brazen compass]

He is the Psyker main

[paper harbor]

Great

[brazen compass]

If you know an UnsanctionedPsyker, that's him

[paper harbor]

Does he make guide?

[brazen compass]

Cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything

He taught Potato

He's the very first Psyker in Darktide

[paper harbor]

Right; new lore

[warm flare]

@marble crater smite warp unbound vs venting shriek?
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kvVCz9zTIPwQCL-LL?invite=cr-MSxOb2QsMzk5OTU2NjU4

deadass warp unbound is better by a longshot ngl

[deft stump]

That's AgentChaos...

[brazen compass]

But @plucky flax is AgentChaos and not UnsanctionedPsyker

[deft stump]

You poking the wrong person. @plucky flax is the UnsanctionedPsyker.

[undone briar]

How do you see health bars

[paper harbor]

Checking their join date it make sense

[paper harbor]

Mods

[undone briar]

Nooo

[paper harbor]

Healthbar mod on Nexus

[deft stump]

He named his Psyker that. I know, I poke him for carries.

[brazen compass]

I play with him all the time, he's AgentChaos

No idea why you are calling him UnsanctionedPsyker

[deft stump]

Stop trying to gaslight me.

[brazen compass]

That is a misappropriated and overused term, and I'm just stating the facts

[remote shadow]

Fellas. Do I paint knights or do I paint the Seer and the Emperor shard

[gilded viper]

My Beloved says, paint the seer

[warm flare]

fuck it

i already know venting shriek is worse anyway

[gilded viper]

I mean, unless you’re building a havoc loadout just do what seems fun

[warm flare]

idk how this would hold up in havoc

[gilded viper]

Shriek is a fun ult, let’s you be very carefree with your peril

[warm flare]

the damage would be nonexistent i reckon

[gilded viper]

Light everything on fire

Havoc psyker exists to destroy hordes and place bubble shield. It really isn’t all that interesting

[ripe obsidian]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ds-and-plasma-nerfs-leaked/109013/13

Did this get posted here yet?

[gilded viper]

I wouldn’t put too much salt in the leaks.
They’ve said they weren’t touching plasma or ds in this patch.

[worldly elm]

Whats the main use case for Warp Unbound if youre not using Assail?

If im not running a staff or assail should I not go for it?

Mostly asking since im not sure if theres any talents that can put you over 100 in to perils

[ripe obsidian]

I do not use Warp Unbound on my non-assail meleeker. It's also not a very, uh, good build. But it's for goofing around in Auric

[prime elk]

staffker

[ripe obsidian]

I sometimes blow myself up with a FGS push attack

[fleet aspen]

best way to get the cliffhanger penance with psyker?

[prime elk]

otherwise no real reason to use it imo

[ripe obsidian]

Check the pins

[worldly elm]

The one map with the final arena thats like a panopticon or something, forget the name

[ripe obsidian]

Pretty sure there's a guide there

[worldly elm]

Has like 2 bridges going in to the central part that you can knock hordes off enemies off pretty easily

[fleet aspen]

is that the scroll one

you have to like wait for the scroll to scribe or whatever

[jovial juniper]

Vigil Station Oblivium

[worldly elm]

^ thats the name

Though id reccomend not doing it with randos unless you can get them all on the same page

Think when I did it I had an allied ogryn with a shield helping keep the horde bunched up

Wait, its only 7 enemies in 2s?

I thought it was more than that

[verbal thistle]

more assail propaganda

[plush elm]

One day, I'll finally get the Cliffhanger penance

[gilded viper]

Cliffhanger was a huge pain in the ass. So happy when I got it though, and before they made it private match only too

[strong gulch]

Cliffhanger doesn't need a private mission.

[gilded viper]

Even better

[solid hornet]

hey if i wanted to go for an assail/sciars gaze build for the "get 40 kills under the effect of sciars gaze" penance is there any particular build you would recommend?

[jovial juniper]

Rashad Axe with Crack of Bone talent

[lavish glade]

were there twins

[verbal thistle]

sadly

no

it was the last trigger when I said that

[lavish glade]

forget which map its the one w the bridge of many martyrs feel like i get twins there a ton

[verbal thistle]

baross?

[lavish glade]

think so yea

long bridge leading to end area two buttons on side one up top

[jovial juniper]

Yeah Aegis Station

Love masozi quips

[brazen rampart]

Divinity is one of the must-haves for raiding in destiny, and usually, it's assigned to the well of radiance warlock.

[brazen rampart]

(also I'm the one that made this, not Lumii, it's what I use in havoc)

[limber wave]

How do you see a scoreboard? Is that a mod?

[verbal thistle]

mod

[limber wave]

Should just be a feature.

[verbal thistle]

yes

[nocturne dust]

B-but then th-the meanie stupid head players w-will be able to actually strategize and go off something other than vibes!

[sturdy reef]

bubble is optional tbh

[nocturne dust]

No it's not

You must run max meta or you will instantly explode into paste due to your heresy