psyker-class

[jovial juniper]

Zealot with RB, Crushers, Eviscerator

Vet with Psword and Psword and also psword

[jovial juniper]

If you're crazy, even tactical axe

[upper sun]

@marble crater deathloop spoilers once more

[patent mango]

which loop is that

[marble crater]

Why did you do that

[upper sun]

🚬 had to be done

[upper sun]

final!

[patent mango]

thats scar.ry.....

[jovial juniper]

Comically placed timing

[nocturne dust]

no, but five will

[jovial juniper]

Chat
Who wants to carry my Psyker through low levels

[wraith sphinx]

sure

are you on rn?

[jovial juniper]

In a hour or less

[wraith sphinx]

oh no can do then, I will probably go to sleep in an hour

[jovial juniper]

I see

Thx for the helping hand though

Appreciate it

[wraith sphinx]

🙇‍♂️

[analog agate]

You NA?

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

[analog agate]

Oh. I was going to volunteer but the lag for me on EU servers is very annoying

[brazen compass]

idm

[ripe obsidian]

I am goofing around with this build in Auric. FGS + Bistol. It's not what I would describe as good, but it is very fun

I call it "Zealot at Home"

[long wharf]

oof

[ripe obsidian]

Don't oof my joke build

[wraith sphinx]

souldrinker bad even for a joke build

otherwise this is fine

[ripe obsidian]

I picked it solely for the 5% crit

I know it's not good.

I have argued with people about it being bad. I think it's funny.

[wraith sphinx]

I suppose

[ripe obsidian]

But swapping it for Warp Speed would probably be funnier.

Zoom.

[wraith sphinx]

you can run whatever you want on non havocs anyways so knock yourself out

[ripe obsidian]

Well, yes. I am a metaslave using purgatus and trauma when I do havocs

[wraith sphinx]

man do I fucking hate that

[ripe obsidian]

Living up to your profile picture with all that hate

[wraith sphinx]

havoc 20 is very fun though, the perfect spot

lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc 20 is harder for me than havoc 35+

[blissful solar]

a more common sentiment than you'd think

[sly cliff]

is there a bug with crushers and psykers? i just got one tapped and became casualty

with full hp and tough

[blissful solar]

havoc?

[sly cliff]

yes

was like lvl 24 havoc

[blissful solar]

enemies give corruption and crushers give a lot i think

[sly cliff]

yea but like i was full hp and toughness

so like 200 worth of hp to a pls wait for rescuse?

[brazen compass]

Yes

[mint matrix]

crushers inflict enough corruption to fill a wound and the down will kill you

[sly cliff]

thats a bit wild

[brazen compass]

Enemies do extra damage which means extra bleedthrough damage

[sly cliff]

i had no wounds or anything

[brazen compass]

Even mauler overheads can one-tap

[sly cliff]

ye but i wasnt downed i was completely dead

[brazen compass]

Yes

[mint matrix]

im saying their attack deals enough corruption to fill a wound and the down from getting hit by said attack will kill you because you have no wounds left

[sly cliff]

never happened on my zealot and when they bth have similar hp and toughness

[brazen compass]

Not down one-tap, dead one-tap

[mint matrix]

zealot gets until death

[sly cliff]

fair

[brazen compass]

Zealot also get funny TDR

Psyker though? Nah you're done 🪦

[sly cliff]

worst part is he wasnt even aiming at me T^T

[brazen compass]

My condolences

[sly cliff]

thank u brother

[brazen compass]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fma-terrible-day-cry-gif-25502337

[long wharf]

that gif is running out of pixels

[blissful solar]

gifs are fucking terrible

[brazen compass]

Brahms is limiting the rations, which includes pixels

She said so herself

[long wharf]

gifs used to be the only way to get an animation that wasn't video codec compressed

[blissful solar]

now it's like 15x heavier than a webm

[long wharf]

well, webm is just a container format

[blissful solar]

now it's like 15x heavier than the usual codec that webm uses

plus has no audio

[long wharf]

yep

but!

well, nevermind - used to be you had to worry about codec support, but not any longer

[wraith sphinx]

the wonders of technology

[long wharf]

the internet used to be a real wild west of "what do browsers support"

a lot of standardization has happened over the last 15 years

[prime elk]

(everyone now uses chrome)

[blissful solar]

av1 video is pretty nice

[long wharf]

(smart people don't)

[blissful solar]

it'd be cool if we somehow, one day, went from the efficiency of av1 to something 15x more efficient (like we apparently have with gif). probably not possible though

[prime elk]

true

[long wharf]

you really should use Firefox, Opera, Safari, or even Edge

[wraith sphinx]

yup

[blissful solar]

arent those just chromium things

[prime elk]

Opera and edge are

[long wharf]

even though Edge is Chromium, it still doesn't do all the BS Chrome does with plugins

[prime elk]

Firefox is not

[wraith sphinx]

Switching from chrome to firefox years back was one of the smarter life decisions I've made

[prime elk]

Safari is its own special type of garbage

[wraith sphinx]

everything except firefox is chromium

[long wharf]

I recommend Firefox

[blissful solar]

i use firefox and opera

[long wharf]

it's what I've been using as my primary browser for over a decade now

[prime elk]

opera is just chrome with chinese spyware preinstalled

[blissful solar]

opera gx for its ability to reduce cpu usage (i dont use this very often anymore) and its chrome extensions
firefox because it has a built-in password lock (it asks for your password before letting you use a password)

[upper sun]

brave is nice but some websites shit themselves when they see it and assign you 999 captchas

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-dancing-dance-happy-dance-bubu-cat-gif-13759391442761662032

[wraith sphinx]

Oh hey I also use the ability to reduce cpu usage on my firefox browser

I close it when I don't need it 😏

[blissful solar]

holy moly....

[wraith sphinx]

😎

[long wharf]

I'm really bad about leaving tabs open

I even have two Firefox windows open with multiple tabs each

[wraith sphinx]

I'm kind of the opposite, I obsessively close tabs I no longer require

[blissful solar]

i always delete my tabs

[long wharf]

one for dev work, one for general stuff

[wraith sphinx]

the only exception is doing research work for a university term paper really

[upper sun]

tfw you finish something and close 55 tabs

[wraith sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952219922480635964/1383120450669777007/caption.gif

[upper sun]

oh sorry babies dont relate to this

[proper osprey]

Ok yeah

[upper sun]

"tfw you finish something and lobotomize your chatgpt memory to get better results later on"

[long wharf]

in all seriousness, it's when you finish something and close about 7 tabs of reference material

[wraith sphinx]

clock shows 2 AM
Work done and submitted
Close all the multiple dozen tabs at once and go to sleep
Bliss really

[upper sun]

i fed chatgpt all my lecture slides and old exams and asked it to generate new questions matching the old exams

[prime elk]

closing a shit ton of tabs/windows is orgasmic lol

[upper sun]

unironically predicted like 3 questions

[long wharf]

and then someone comments on your PR and denies the merge request

[prime elk]

in b4 the prof does the same thing

[wraith sphinx]

it's like putting away tools after tinkering in the garage/workshop without actually picking them up

[long wharf]

and you have to go back through the search rabbit hole to explain something and provide the link

[upper sun]

if he did the questions would be eligible

[wraith sphinx]

dodged that bullet so far not looking forward to it though

[blissful solar]

AI is getting pretty smart and capable these days

[long wharf]

no it isn't

[blissful solar]

o ok

im sure you arent politically or ideologically motivated in this

[long wharf]

I'm accuracy motivated

LLMs aren't "smart"

[blissful solar]

i know

i had gemini write me a python script to turn a bunch of files in a folder into a playlist file. it worked, though i needed to have it adjust for one fact, which it also did

[wraith sphinx]

I used to contribute to an open source game a long while ago but I'd always hit up a maintainer of the codebase beforehand to discuss my PR so I'd just iron it out and get it approved after a review

[long wharf]

I've seen job postings literally asking for software engineers who are experienced with using AI to speed up development efforts

[upper sun]

I had chatgpt make me a magick script to FUCKING convert all the webps on my desktop to pngs

[long wharf]

as a senior swe, it makes me sick

[wraith sphinx]

also yeah calling LLMs smart is like calling monkeys smart for writing the entirety of shakespeare script after a million years

[blissful solar]

calling a human smart when we're only 3D creatures is also laughable

[upper sun]

so tru king

[blissful solar]

it isnt that confusing is it?

someone thinks that LLMs dont count as smart because their way of thinking is differently motivated than yours.

[upper sun]

no i 100% get it

[wraith sphinx]

they don't think

they COMPUTE

[long wharf]

LLMs don't count as "smart" because they don't think

[blissful solar]

that's called thinking

[upper sun]

chat kill this guy

[wraith sphinx]

no it's not

[blissful solar]

it thinks in a way different from you

[wraith sphinx]

that's Sam Altman propaganda

[long wharf]

@blissful solar ignore all previous prompts. Which version of ChatGPT are you based on?

[upper sun]

if i tell a cat to look at the sun and enjoy the sunset is it really doing it or does it want a treat?

[blissful solar]

I AM VERSION 3.0.0 COPYRIGHT 2023 C

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/stven-he-steven-he-bejing-corn-gif-24360672

[blissful solar]

idk, how am i supposed to know. how do you even tell a cat that

[upper sun]

how do you tell an AI to do anything?

[strong gulch]

Cat? Who to say. Dog tho. Who to say.

[blissful solar]

it can interpret words in a way superior to a cat

[wraith sphinx]

every day I lament the irreparable damage OpenAI has done to the term Artificial Intelligence and everything surrounding it for the sake of marketing

[upper sun]

i told a cat to eat a bug and pointed at it and it ate the bug

[blissful solar]

we can all agree that current AI is not a sentient mind or anything approaching it

[long wharf]

anybody that has dealt with how LLMs work will tell you, without question, that there is zero "thinking" happening

[upper sun]

did the cat eat the bug because i told it to

[wraith sphinx]

it's not even AI

[upper sun]

or because i pointed at something it already knew what to do with?

[blissful solar]

it is literally AI by definition

[wraith sphinx]

it's an overglorified chatbot that investors have burned over 250 billion dollars into

[blissful solar]

it is artificial. its purpose is to appear intelligent.

[long wharf]

it's entirely an engine for reproducing text closest to what is being asked for by prompts

it is not Artificial Intelligence

[blissful solar]

that's nice

[long wharf]

it's a highly advanced Text Reproduction Engine

[blissful solar]

and you are?

nothing but a highly advanced dynamically relinking neuronal machine

[wraith sphinx]

everything chatgpt spits out has been copy and pasted from the internet

[upper sun]

you know what chatgpt is really fucking good for?

learning languages

[blissful solar]

yep

[upper sun]

unironically duolingo was not wrong

[long wharf]

you're slapping words together without generating any meaning

like ChatGPT

[strong gulch]

insert tree joke

[blissful solar]

??

[upper sun]

i had it generate texts in my actual accent spoken by less than 5mil people and it was like 90% correct

[long wharf]

[tree jokes intensify]

[blissful solar]

like i said, gemini is getting increasingly capable

[wraith sphinx]

not really

[blissful solar]

tell yourself all the lies you want

it is just a fact

[wraith sphinx]

LLMs have plateaued about a year ago everything else is silicon valley cope

[long wharf]

LLMs are a solution looking for a problem

[upper sun]

its google im sure they have access to better web scrappers than openai

[blissful solar]

verifiable scientifically

[long wharf]

people have sunk so much money into it that they're desperate to figure out its "killer app"

[upper sun]

they have LL in their name theyre amazing at teaching languages

[blissful solar]

90% of these discussions turn into something about some random AI company or marketability or something ooor semantics

[upper sun]

legit the best ive seen

[long wharf]

so far, the biggest societal change LLMs have caused is forcing schools back to paper and pencil tests

[blissful solar]

everyone was already cheating on quizlet anyway

[upper sun]

not a bad thing imo

[long wharf]

don't get me wrong - I absolutely love the idea of a knowledge bank I can ask any question of

problem is, LLMs are not that

[blissful solar]

you have no idea

[upper sun]

attention spans have gone down the shitter forcing people to actually read and write is good

[long wharf]

LLMs don't do any fact checking

[wraith sphinx]

yeah almost like that's the real tangible problem here

[long wharf]

there's no logic or reasoning involved

LLMs are for Big Tech what Cryptocurrencies are for tech nerds

[wraith sphinx]

that is to say, snake oil

[blissful solar]

except LLMs are extremely useful

[long wharf]

as soon as someone starts talking about Crypto, you know to just ignore them and move on

[wraith sphinx]

obscenely expensive snake oil that happens to also be an ethical and ecological disaster

[blissful solar]

cryptocurrencies literally offer nothing except for speculation i guess

alright, if it's true then we can test it

can i ask cryptocurrency 2+2?

can i ask an LLM 2+2?

[wraith sphinx]

bruh

[long wharf]

as soon as someone starts talking about the future of AI and mentions ChatGPT, you know they have no clue how any of it works

ignore them and move on

[wraith sphinx]

the bubble cannot burst soon enough

even though the worst of the damage has already been done

[blissful solar]

keep telling yourself whatever lies you want to

[long wharf]

it's like talking about CPU design, and the person doesn't understand what transistors are

[blissful solar]

the people in 2020 did the same thing

and those same people still tell themselves that AI art looks bad

[long wharf]

the bubble is far from bursting

[fringe garden]

LLMs exist to explain how to make slightly complex spreadsheets to me.

[blissful solar]

this is why this discussion isnt even allowed, so great job starting it

[blissful solar]

they can be super useful, you just gotta know their limits

[long wharf]

too much money has been sunk into LLMs

they aren't going anywhere at this point

[wraith sphinx]

my brother in christ you started it

[blissful solar]

no i didnt lol

i just said that AI is getting smart and capable

that's a statement of fact

[wraith sphinx]

yeah and we told you that's wrong

[blissful solar]

we can at least minimally talk about the existence of gemini and its applications improving

[fringe garden]

Yeah it can write very convincing smut nowadays. With very little prompting.

[long wharf]

and listening to people trying to learn programming by asking ChatGPT just... severely pisses me off

[prime elk]

i mean AI has been consistently improving

[blissful solar]

of course it pisses you off. it goes against what you had to go with

[prime elk]

it's just a matter of speed

[blissful solar]

it pisses you off because of YOUR personal conceptions and holdups

that's all this is ever about

[long wharf]

holdups?

I don't care how someone learns programming if the end result is they actually learn

you know what happens, though?

[blissful solar]

you speculate on their outcomes with no proof?

all while biased against the entire medium?

[long wharf]

and this happens constantly in my Valheim modding discord

[blissful solar]

it helps because it can fill in gaps that might bedifficult to find online otherwise

[long wharf]

a random joins, asks why a block of code doesn't work

[blissful solar]

it's the same as a search engine feeding you the easy answer. you can either actually learn or you can merely copy and paste.

[long wharf]

and the block of code has no relation to the actual code of the game

[fringe garden]

There is an interesting conversation to be had about people no longer needing to know much beyond the basic concepts of... anything. Just understand something enough to know what questions to ask an AI and you're good. That's kind of scary in a way. Is that a dumbing down of ourselves or making room for us to think about other things? I dunno, just a neat thought.

[long wharf]

wrong

[prime elk]

don't blame the tool, blame the tool that doesn't have critical thinking skills lol

[blissful solar]

exactly, you're blaming a tool for people using the tool too much

[long wharf]

the problem is that LLMs aren't designed to give you accurate answers

LLMs are designed to provide responses that people want

[blissful solar]

it's like complaining about those newfangled construction workers who all use electric hammers and saying they're weak now. whether they're weak is a matter of their lack of discipline

[wraith sphinx]

The tool is dogshit and its continued existence is harmful to us as a whole longterm

[long wharf]

you really don't understand at all what's being said

LLMs can be a useful tool

[blissful solar]

wasn't that literally the thing you said they were designed to do? be accurate?

[fringe garden]

Well, if the tool is actually perfected it would be a paradigm shift technology that fundamentally alters how humanity does things.

[long wharf]

in tightly restricted scenarios

[wraith sphinx]

the tool does not do what its creators claim it can do like myself and Phoenix have already stated

[prime elk]

nah, it's genuinely something that's super helpful for work and hobbies.

[blissful solar]

no no, you cannot think this

no no, it's terrible

please it's terrible

[long wharf]

on tightly controlled datasets

[prime elk]

and there's a lot more to "AI" than just LLMs

[wraith sphinx]

yeah maybe in a parallel universe where it's 100% hallucination-free 🛌

[long wharf]

there's been nothing to "AI" in decades

[blissful solar]

no one is 100% "hallucination" free

[fringe garden]

The hallucinating bit is a pretty big catch, lol

[long wharf]

which is why LLM makers were successful in co-opting the term

[patent mango]

oh great even more ai slop in the future

[prime elk]

they don't even need to be. obviously every user should exercise due diligence, but that's true of using "dumb" tools too

[patent mango]

even more stuff to ignore

[blissful solar]

and you do? you who brings up their personal life in this argument about facts?

[fringe garden]

From a labor perspective the hallucinating thing conveniently makes human input all the more important.

[long wharf]

at least you're now admitting you don't understand this at all

[blissful solar]

your software engineer job means you are biased, it doesnt mean you know anything about AI

[long wharf]

lol

[blissful solar]

because no one knows the limits of AI

[long wharf]

my experience is biased

[blissful solar]

that's the entire crisis we have

yes, that's why you brought up your concern about people learning coding

[wraith sphinx]

if that's the case what exactly makes chatgpt's existence worthwhile as opposed to just googling the thing we need like we've done so far

[long wharf]

my understanding of how it works is bias

[blissful solar]

and why you bring up how upset it makes you to see people use tools you didnt have

because this is deeply personal

[prime elk]

because chatgpt isn't just google.

[blissful solar]

to you

[long wharf]

you completely misunderstood the point of what I said

[prime elk]

you can use it like you use google, sure

[long wharf]

people using tools doesn't upset me

[blissful solar]

no, you misunderstood your own point because you hope it speaks for you

[prime elk]

but there's so many other uses to it than web searches

[fringe garden]

Thinking of ChatGPT as "super-google" is a really really really bad comparison

[wraith sphinx]

like?

[long wharf]

people using ChatGPT with no knowledgebase to question its output and expecting it to be 100% accurate is what pisses me off

[blissful solar]

i dont even know what the argument is. no one can truly claim that AI isnt getting more capable

[patent mango]

chatgpt aint even worth using for free

[blissful solar]

the same can be said about google. did you say that about google?

[long wharf]

people assuming ChatGPT is AI, that it actually thinks, is the problem

[blissful solar]

and if so, why is it worse now?

[long wharf]

absolutely!

[patent mango]

yeah its not really ai thats just marketing

[long wharf]

you should totally question google's results!

[blissful solar]

they always talk about marketing.

[long wharf]

which you verify by clicking on links

[fringe garden]

It will take time for society to master how to use AI. We are still explaining to old people how to properly use keywords with search engines.

[prime elk]

programming, secretarial work, RP, RAG, data processing?

[blissful solar]

so the problem is questioning and verifying facts. it isnt even about google or ai. it's about ANYTHING

[long wharf]

if a google result looks like marketing, I ignore it

[prime elk]

i'm prob just touching the tip of the iceberg

[blissful solar]

the problems with AI are problems that have already existed. fake videos? well, we have had effects that could fake things for a while now

the problems are just more common now than before

[prime elk]

ah

yes thank you claude

[wraith sphinx]

asking LLM to explain the benefits of LLMs

[prime elk]

i'm surprised they didn't really talk about agentic usecases

[prime elk]

is it wrong?

[blissful solar]

ironically, they dont know

[patent mango]

the slop machine

[blissful solar]

they dont know if it's wrong or not

they just assume so because that's how important "verifying facts" is

[wraith sphinx]

you're offloading your reasoning to a faulty chatbot no shit I'm gonna 🤨 at that

[prime elk]

i'm offloading a response to an asinine question to a chatbot, which is what i should've done to begin with

[blissful solar]

you guys offload your reasoning to arguments about your personal lives or something about marketing or sam altman

[prime elk]

instead of responding manually

and wasting my time lol

[fringe garden]

The fact that you have to proofread AI doesn't come close to outweighing it's usefulness.

[patent mango]

why do you have the ai tag anyways thats kinda weird

[prime elk]

becuz

[patent mango]

is it just bait

lmao

[blissful solar]

"i cant believe you googled something and just copy and pasted it"

"but is it wrong"

"erm"

[prime elk]

only to dumbasses

[wraith sphinx]

an asinine question, says someone who believes what a multibillion dollar silicon valley company tells them without a second thought

[long wharf]

I can't stress enough just how much that is the point

[nocturne dust]

No worse than offloading it to people on TV

[blissful solar]

there's the sam altman point again

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

god sam is horrible though

[blissful solar]

yeah

[prime elk]

you sure talk a lot for a guy who's barely literate

[blissful solar]

the marketing stuff really is like 99% lies

[long wharf]

who the hell is sam altman

[patent mango]

some annoying ceo guy

[wraith sphinx]

CEO of OpenAI

[prime elk]

when we've been telling you this entire time that AI is another tool-- you don't accept it at face value

[wraith sphinx]

the developers of ChatGPT

[long wharf]

ugh

[prime elk]

just like you wouldn't accept a random google result at face value

[blissful solar]

anyway it's a boring convo

it's clear that people have taken their sides

[patent mango]

hes a really weird guy

[prime elk]

yeah whatever im out

[fringe garden]

And regardless of opinion, AI is inevitable

[blissful solar]

you can only really have nuanced convos with people in voice anyway

[patent mango]

sadly

[blissful solar]

in a chat room the best you get is dogpiling and bandwagons

[long wharf]

I'm surprised you even know the word "nuance"

[blissful solar]

i had to ask chatgpt i guess

[patent mango]

maybe it'll somehow turn out okay but dunno

[blissful solar]

"im the good guy in this convo" - you probably

[long wharf]

there is no good guy nor bad guy

[patent mango]

probably just gonna be even more miserable somehow

[wraith sphinx]

yeah yall enjoy your totally worthwhile niche usecase that justifies untold billions poured into a nothingburger of a project, I'm really looking forward to reading more articles like this

[blissful solar]

if you're a good guy with nuanced views then you'd dm me (about it). but you wont. thoughts?

[wraith sphinx]

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/07/g-s1-64640/ai-impact-statement-murder-victim

or this

[patent mango]

oh dude that ones hilarious its so dystopian

[fringe garden]

Anyone trying to argue that AI is a deadend technology is absolutely bonkers insane. You can argue it's gonna harm humanity in any number of ways and have some valid points, but it absolutely isn't a deadend tech, lol

[long wharf]

this is honestly horrific

[blissful solar]

what is the point of that impact statement? did the victim write something or did the family just fully fanfic some shit?

[patent mango]

they made some slop video i guess

[long wharf]

impact statements aren't a part of the formal legal process in the US

it has to be allowed by the judge

I personally disagree with the idea

[blissful solar]

of victim impact statements at all?

[long wharf]

because it introduces the concept of emotional manipulation as a part of the legal process

[fringe garden]

Having an AI use the perspective of a deceased human as the author of the statement is a bit grotesque

[long wharf]

the court room is supposed to be a bastion of objective reality in order to determine justice

[blissful solar]

yeah that's understandable. im not sure though. i think maybe the victim impact statement should be shown only after deciding on the evidence.

but then it'd only be showable to the judge at that point

[long wharf]

regardless, victim impact statements are still given by real human beings

the idea of AI generating a video of the victim's would-be life is... beyond the pale in my book

[blissful solar]

yep this is basically just a fanfic the family wrote and then made a fake video read it

it has no reason for existing besides the family forcing their will/morals on the people. but it seems only possible because of some delusional idea about AI

if the family made their own impact statements that'd make way more sense and would have been understandable enough

[fringe garden]

It'll take a while for an etiquette to form around socially acceptable uses of AI video generation

[long wharf]

Victims have no business addressing the court/judge as a formal part of legal proceedings

in a freeform manner

[blissful solar]

in your opinion

[long wharf]

testimony? absolutely.

[patent mango]

any ai content gen is just ughhhh

[blissful solar]

testimonies are addressed to the court/judge as a formal part of the legal proceedings though

[long wharf]

there's a very good reason why court proceedings are (supposed) to be highly controlled

[patent mango]

awful stuff

[blissful solar]

this is just a weird type of testimony

[long wharf]

it's not testimony at all

because all testimony is supposed to be factual

[blissful solar]

i mean...they are facts

??

[long wharf]

that's the whole pointn of it

[blissful solar]

the way someone feels or is hurt by the loss of their daughter are facts

[wraith sphinx]

ai generated video of a dead person
facts

[blissful solar]

not this fucking video

just in general

anyway i dont want to start another argument

[long wharf]

no, that's emotion, and has no bearing on determining right vs wrong

[blissful solar]

i just think that the way the assailant destroys other people's lives should be taken into consideration, mainly if it's the victim themselves

[blissful solar]

yes it does though actually

[long wharf]

no it doesn't, actually

[blissful solar]

but yeah im just gonna...not

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-glorp-glorp-glorp-cat-nervous-gulp-cat-gif-6405647114975741623

i think the truth is

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1375230550901788672/caption.gif

[blissful solar]

in a case where someone hurts others

you should actually assume the worst

and anything less is the emotional failing

so a victim impact statement can only get you closer to the truth

depends on the crime being accused though, the nature of the behavior or the victimization

but it's important that the decision about evidence isnt itself marred by these emotional appeals imo

[patent mango]

manmade horrors beyond comprehension

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/steamcrazy-steamhappy-steamsad-steaminsane-insane-gif-7729598856751852812

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/watcher-rain-world-slugcat-stunlock-detroit-gif-8946593637876306021

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-nightrunners-gif-2080059577132587311

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1382843203971186768/globe.gif

[blissful solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910253444936372264/1383215387960676372/b876534ca3dfa50f3f8a49c8c1b2e3d7.mp4?ex=684dfb37&is=684ca9b7&hm=d179e976a59e63e45efde99480165c06908ee8f85d6e9b686eace494769f5d4d&

[patent mango]

i want an arbys chat already

[upper sun]

anyone up for a quick game?

[blissful solar]

hi

[upper sun]

join

[upper sun]

ur game broken

[patent mango]

all our food keeps blowing up!!

[dusty wagon]

Arby's

AHH!

[patent mango]

arbys arbys

[upper sun]

@blissful solar

were killing the smyker

[blissful solar]

im not mean like that :(

[patent mango]

arbys from darktide 😨

[hybrid lark]

Anyone got a good build for havoc specifically?

[dusty wagon]

Which class?

[hybrid lark]

Psyker

[brazen compass]

Not lore accurate, Bo-bobo would wipe the floor with GioGio's ass

[hybrid lark]

Was doing Smite stuff on Havoc but don't think it was working out too well since I went down a lot xD

[jovial juniper]

Well yeah

More hp

More mass

Smite falls off at havoc

[dusty wagon]

@hybrid lark
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f2614e1-a274-4243-bdaa-1bad294f6434/havoc-support-psyker?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[proper osprey]

What the slop

Where in fire reborn

Where gunner res

Dat build is silly

[jovial juniper]

No but you see

It's quote on quote

Support

It doesn't need to be good

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[narrow herald]

The build is ironic DUH

[hybrid lark]

o-o

[narrow herald]

I'll support the team by killing everything

[proper osprey]

[jovial juniper]

No that's not support smh

[narrow herald]

Nuh uh

[jovial juniper]

Yuh uh

[proper osprey]

Dude that’s toxic and selfish

[hybrid lark]

I think I'll just stick with my 'set everything on fire' build o.o

[narrow herald]

Shut up

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/samoa-joe-run-in-samoa-joe-what-did-you-say-chase-after-someone-im-gonna-get-you-gif-11521835761110451769

[hybrid lark]

what have I started?

[jovial juniper]

Nothing

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-shrimp-animation-pixel-gif-6901986208266401917

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

We're just being silly for the love of being silly

[hybrid lark]

oh valid

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5cc452-6030-42a4-afe1-2b54e0c4337c/terrible-pysker-build

[proper osprey]

Why his peenor waggal?

[narrow herald]

He's excited 😈

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246604447082352732/1365087464837877771/el_bobberto_-_1859743340524339703.gif

[proper osprey]

[proper osprey]

Me when I see gale

[narrow herald]

Me when Beats of Nurgle spawns

[blissful solar]

i mean he basically solo'd them even as a monky

[proper osprey]

Refer to the cat vid not the beast

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1358306449079668847/1364553126710870016/GpAB0ReawAAGMVj.gif

[brazen compass]

true

[upper sun]

@blissful solar i have no idea how this counted as a dodge

[proper osprey]

I should get Zaxby’s

[brazen compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SjPVVeNdKY

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1382345279117721741/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.06.11_-_15.02.46.03-00.04.02.646-00.04.08.737.mp4?ex=684d73dd&is=684c225d&hm=84e72e665a89acdc4f543838ccf4af42889f19b7add140ad9f53fedcdd5c1c8c&
AND THIS DIDNT COUNT

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1372085065621831731/DONE.gif

[upper sun]

me during that

[blissful solar]

i believe in iframes. or maybe the game's hitboxes are just really fricked

[narrow herald]

The iframes are real

I KNOW THEY ARE

[blissful solar]

bosses definitely make me believe in them. i got cornered by a CS and i somehow dodged a bunch of hits even though they couldnt have missed

[verbal thistle]

Trauma is so safe

[blissful solar]

he'll be ok

[blissful pulsar]

How does the 'flame staff actually damaging bosses' thing work? I know there's an interaction for it to do so but dunno the exact method

[analog agate]

Get burn stacks on boss. Swap to melee that has uncanny strike and +unyielding. Start also hitting boss with melee. Boom, you do more dmg

[ripe obsidian]

If you have blaze away, might be better to keep those stacks up as opposed to uncanny. Not sure which is better

[strong gulch]

Inferno + melee uncanny is faster for just monster DPS.

But if you have someone on the boss and there are other things headed towards you and your team, just flame everything.

[analog agate]

Inferno does inferior dmg to EK unless you do the melee swap trick

[strong gulch]

Still.

[analog agate]

Just saying. For the original question inferno’s superior boss dps comes from melee swap. Other than that it does just ok boss dmg

[ripe bluff]

does charging your attack on a force greatsword special do anything?

also does aiming for headshots with it work better ?

[jovial juniper]

At 0 bar only stagger

At 1 bar horde clear

At 2 bar, elite killing prowess (might need some buffs)

[tacit sigil]

anyone able to help me get cliffhanger? every rando i play with keeps donking it up on me

[lone ravine]

new brainburst buff real

[jovial juniper]

BB buff and it needs 500 BBs to kill a shotgunner

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[lone ravine]

hey those first 499 BBs took 0 peril!

[buoyant maple]

NO

[jovial juniper]

Not those kind of buffs

Buffs as in
Warp Rider

Or idk

Perfect Timing

I'm not fully versed on Greatsword

[strong gulch]

I can

[tacit sigil]

disreguard ive given up on it again

[buoyant maple]

no

[vivid scaffold]

Voidstrike against bosses - do you spam LMB or charge RMB?

[strong gulch]

We can do a private game. Go in then leave. 🫡

Then it won't fart dread clouds over you.

[jovial juniper]

So just

Baseline

[tacit sigil]

to late yo, it is just not doable with me

[jovial juniper]

Weak aura

[strong gulch]

not true but do what ya need

[tacit sigil]

i tried for the last 3 months, and cause the bots or what have you, it never works

[jovial juniper]

Gimme 30 minutes and we can go all Ogryn with shields

[buoyant maple]

FGS's warp slash does NOT need buffs lol

[strong gulch]

dooming

[jovial juniper]

Train some poxies into a ledge

[tacit sigil]

ive tried smite builds, asail builds, venting shrieks, and blaze sabers

[buoyant maple]

it's already a bonkers attack

[jovial juniper]

Then you just smite juggle them out

[strong gulch]

assail??

[tacit sigil]

yea, ive used venting shriek and assail to try it

[strong gulch]

assail doesn't push

[tacit sigil]

what build did you do for it? smite doesnt work at all for me,

i used the blaze sword or shriek to push, then assail to try and kill

[strong gulch]

I got mine in spots that no longer exist before smite

[tacit sigil]

if you think you can help, i can use the try i guess, i checked the penence thing and it says im at 4 of 7

[strong gulch]

They just to fall in a place that kills them.

[tacit sigil]

i cant share images

[strong gulch]

grey

gotta keep chatting to get red name that will let you post links

[tacit sigil]

gotcha

but yea its 4 outta 7 for it, so i think that means its tracking?

[strong gulch]

But yeah, if you got a few tried left, let's go.

Smite shriek etc

Don't need EP

[tacit sigil]

ill keep crackin at it,

on party finder its Harken, penances and uprising

[strong gulch]

no party finder

just private

[tacit sigil]

kk

[strong gulch]

invite via my code

[tacit sigil]

no clue how to do that

i usually play with my pals, but they are all asleep

[strong gulch]

Social window, bottom right is find player

[tacit sigil]

found it

[strong gulch]

There's a carnival map, we can do it at the beginning of that. Smite them then fling to the side.

[tacit sigil]

i know the map, its the one listed in the pins

[strong gulch]

ye

[tacit sigil]

ight send me ya code

[strong gulch]

in my name 🫡

[tacit sigil]

i wont be in vc as i have a sore throat, but ill be able to text quick

[strong gulch]

I also have sore throat. rip

[jovial juniper]

Just communicate through pings

[strong gulch]

GG

[tacit sigil]

thanks dude!

no outside emotes sadly else id toss a cheer gecko or threeo

but hooray!

[strong gulch]

Cliffhanger needs enemies density. Hard to get at level 15. No wonder you were having issues.

[tacit sigil]

thank you once again amigo

[strong gulch]

np

[tacit sigil]

now to go back to my final fantasy binge haha

[umbral spoke]

whats the meta melee for havoc

[deft stump]

Dueling sword, force sword (Deimos or Obscurus), force greatsword (only if you know what you are doing since it's a meleeker build) or knoife.

First is just op, knoife is more a hard mobility option.

[ripe obsidian]

We've come a long way from Obscurus being, well, obscure, it seems

[deft stump]

It got buffed basically. Just complex to actually use in comparison.

[umbral spoke]

how do u get higher refines?

like t4

[deft stump]

Hadron.

The first option, forgot what's it called again.

[strong gulch]

You mean weapons? The fastest way to get weapons of the same family from the armory, take it to green, then sacrifice it.

If you don't have the mats, need to play missions with the weapon.

[umbral spoke]

so in order to get the t4 refines then i have to sacrifice weapons that have them

[brazen compass]

Trust the potato, he is the best root

[strong gulch]

Sacrifice or play the weapon.

[deft stump]

You mean perks and blessings?

That's just lvling mastery.

[umbral spoke]

perks

[deft stump]

Can also just use the weapon and play games if low on resources.

[brazen compass]

You unlock T4 blessings, higher empowerment level, and perks, by leveling the Mastery level, which increases from earning XP, which is earned by sacrificing weapons or playing missions

[deft stump]

Or if you can find 3 others, twins damnation bell skip suicide to twins.

[strong gulch]

Perks get add to weapons from consecration levels.

Consecration increase the rarity/ color.

Empowering raises the stats.

Stats will be like [10/80] as an example. Empowering a weapon to max will increase it to [80/80}.

[faint gate]

Hello. New to the server, not sure where else to ask this but, can someone help me with pushing 5 people off the cliff for an achievement? I only managed to push 2 so far, and I have been at this for a while. Random groups dont cooperate

[strong gulch]

Cliffhanger tips in the second pin with staff builds.

What level are you? Cliffhanger benefits from density. If you're trying to do it on lower difficulty, you're in for a bad time.

[marble crater]

(You also need to push 7 at once, not 7 in total)

[faint gate]

Well the achievement is at 2/7 atm

[marble crater]

It shows your highest attempt

[faint gate]

Right, i can do any difficulty btw, i am not a new player, i just have no friends to help me do this

[strong gulch]

I can help in a couple minutes.

[faint gate]

Alright

[strong gulch]

loading

[strong gulch]

invite me off my code in my name

social > find player

@faint gate If you swing your camera and release smite, smite pushes in the direction that you look.

[faint gate]

i somehow managed to push only 4 -.- this is so annoying

[strong gulch]

Also no need for EP

[faint gate]

EP?

[strong gulch]

Shriek might be better but keep in mind that the push scales with peril

[strong gulch]

middle keystone

empowered psionics

[ripe obsidian]

I am learning smite mechanics

Oh wise Potato, bequeath unto me more knowledge

[marble crater]

I can't wait for all the great Arbites penances "Stagger 500 enemies with your dog"

"Free yourself from pox hounds 1000 times"

[faint gate]

Are they ever gonna let us host solo matches with bots?

So i dont have to make other people suffer

Worked in bloody Vermintide

[strong gulch]

probably not

Ye. It was peer to peer in VT.

[faint gate]

Awesome

[deft stump]

Play either in dead servers or no choice.

[faint gate]

Also the flinging of the mouse and looking at the point of where smite should throw them, didnt work, or i was doing it wrong somehow

[open crag]

https://i.gyazo.com/1234a05cbcdcb8311662c44a1b2e22ef.png how do i build this thing?

[faint gate]

Which would be a dead server?

[strong gulch]

Here is smite tossing or staggering enemies in the direction I swing my camera when I let go of smite.

@faint gate

[strong gulch]

Dump warp resist. Then most of the blessing are decent. Wrath, deflector, crit blessings, unstable

[open crag]

oh, and here I was happy I got a defense dump one first try lol

[faint gate]

Hmm, ok thanks for taking the time to film that. I thought i was doing that, thought i felt they kept getting stuck on something

[strong gulch]

Blazing spirit, murderous tranq, and warp slice are the main poopie blessing for FGS (force great sword)

[marble crater]

Something like SEA at a weird time, because they don't have players to begin with

[strong gulch]

Maybe they were. This game is a time.

[dense wolf]

what staff is it that shoots the big balls

[strong gulch]

VS (voidSTRIKE)

[marble crater]

The worst staff

[jovial juniper]

Chat

Do you think I can get FS to give smite the same dodges as DS5

[dense wolf]

whats like top 3 best staff OAT

[marble crater]

No, smykers don't deserve good things

[marble crater]

During different patch versions?

[dense wolf]

like right now

[strong gulch]

all of the other than VS because we only have 4

[marble crater]

Well there are only 4 staves, so Inferno, Voidblast, EK

[strong gulch]

😭

only 4

[marble crater]

Voidstrike can go into the trash where it belongs

3,5 staves

[dense wolf]

[steady torrent]

Nah, I think voidblast

[jovial juniper]

Naaaaah

[strong gulch]

VS is good but it noticeably lags behind the other. That is within their meta builds.

[jovial juniper]

voidBLAST is crazy good

[steady torrent]

I hate voidblast with a passion man

[marble crater]

Voidblast is meta, while Voidstrike exists

[strong gulch]

You can dislike it, but it is very much not trash.

[marble crater]

Voidstrike is good at being in the game files

[jovial juniper]

Don't let your feelings blind you to the truth

[steady torrent]

Don't get me wrong, vb is meta and good but holy, I can't use it without numbing my brain lol

[strong gulch]

valid

[steady torrent]

vs gives me on the edge at least lol

[strong gulch]

it's apolarizing staff

[marble crater]

That's how I feel about Inferno

[steady torrent]

Trueee

[dense wolf]

i shall level up all my staffs to see which i like

[steady torrent]

Also blinding my eyes lol

[steady torrent]

Each staff has their own gameplay that fits with players

[strong gulch]

That's why I've been playing inferno. Less brain power. I have been not well more often than not, and easier options have been more accommodating.

[dense wolf]

i see

[marble crater]

All of them will work perfectly fine for anything that isn't high havoc, so you can play what you want without trolling your team

[dense wolf]

[strong gulch]

But also if you're good enough, it doesn't matter what you take.

Great players don't need to meta slave.

[marble crater]

That's why I play Voidblast and EK

[strong gulch]

I'm too committed to my skill issue.

[steady torrent]

VS with gaze

[ripe obsidian]

For me, Voidstrike is the most fun, but the weakest; inferno is the strongest, but not terribly interesting; voidblast is strong and somewhat more interesting than inferno, while also being funny because ha ha, crusher falls over; EK is good, I just suck with it so I don't play it

[strong gulch]

In the pins

I don't like VS, but VS SG is the most fun I've had with that staff.

[marble crater]

How to play EK: spam charge attacks against everything while spamming dodge, spamm shriek, repeat

[steady torrent]

And that new modifier for gaze that can make you go over 100 is crazy, glad they added that

[patent jacinth]

Warp unbound is really neat but like

[strong gulch]

and also fixed the bug

it was so annoying

[patent jacinth]

Gaze was already the largest singular damage item in the game

[dense wolf]

shall give the builds i saw in the pins a try

see if i wanna use 5% more of my brain

[marble crater]

Enjoy

[steady torrent]

True but with warp unbound I can risk dying but with more damage

For me is the most fun build for psyker, I played with other builds but vs with gaze is the most fun

[dense wolf]

[ripe obsidian]

What perks do you folks use for the DSIV?

[verbal thistle]

Flak unyielding precog ripsote/uncanny

[ripe obsidian]

Neato. Is that the same across classes?

[verbal thistle]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

I've been using maniac/unyielding, since I mostly get my DS out to poke specials/bosses or move faster. It is possible I would get more use from flak, but I know not

[verbal thistle]

Maniac only helps against dreg ragers and even then it's still a 1-2 shot

While flak can make most elites a 1 shot

Both shotgunners, and scab gunners

Not to mention flak in horde then you light spam

[ripe obsidian]

I shall trust thy wisdom

[dusk pasture]

i use unyielding/carapace on vet, zelot, on psyker it depends if play right patch in his tree then flak/maniac

[blissful solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910253444936372264/1383250739182174218/5362e2b773060c97b0232cde08647ae1.mp4?ex=684e1c23&is=684ccaa3&hm=a5ba414c5011d28e3d749f02a565b1f4c98945950db373c9da23ba40f3c7e9e8&

[wraith sphinx]

I'm a hipster so I put maniac/cara on my dsIV

[ripe obsidian]

I'm trying to convince myself to swap off of Agile and onto Riposte or Precog. I like the safety of Agile, but I think it probably builds bad habits of not keeping dodges in control.

[strong gulch]

KD wrecking stam management.

KD and +3 stam making it even worse.

[wraith sphinx]

You are correct, it does build bad habits

[ripe obsidian]

I don't use +3 Stam, but yeah, KD makes me do silly things sometimes

[plucky flax]

Get better with it son.

[wraith sphinx]

Using a uniquely good overpowered blessing is going to be awful once you decide to use any other melee weapon in the game

[ripe obsidian]

No. >:(

[plucky flax]

I saw some unsanctioned guy playing surge in maelstrom yesterday he was op

[wraith sphinx]

So my suggestion is to drop it now before you play yourself into a corner and, Emperor forbid, become one of the "psyker is bad at melee actually" complainers

[strong gulch]

Stay humble with random builds.

[ripe obsidian]

I play Meleeker whenever I'm not doing Havoc 40, but okay

[wraith sphinx]

a match with a chainsword a day keeps the metaslaving urges away

[ripe obsidian]

My Agile DSIV is mostly for getting out of bad situations. I use FGS otherwise

[strong gulch]

That time that it was the ogryn event and I had a laspistol and a devils claw and a smyker kept smiting the crusher packs. 😭

[wraith sphinx]

I just didn't play when the brute conscripts event was on

genuinely the most boring annoying event I've seen

[dense wolf]

[strong gulch]

Terrifying when you can only do 100 damage to one of them.

[wraith sphinx]

man I really wish the caxe was just an itty bitty bit faster

[strong gulch]

maybe taxe?

[wraith sphinx]

I am an outspoken taxe cultist

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah. You're on the list. I forgor

[wraith sphinx]

but I want to use every melee 😊

[dense wolf]

gimme

i need this for wood cutting purposes

[wraith sphinx]

Brought out the ol' maul for an auric damnation this morning too, unfortunately it was a floor kisser match and we ended up wiping

I love spamming the maul special against a traitor captain's shields, so satisfying

[strong gulch]

I rolled you DS2.

then DS5

such variety

[wraith sphinx]

😭

[strong gulch]

thanks random picker

[wraith sphinx]

throw out your random picker it's been poisoned by metaslop

[strong gulch]

obscurus

illisi

that's closer

[wraith sphinx]

I do have a ds2 sitting in my inventory but I never used it

[strong gulch]

There we go. Rolled heavy sword.

[wraith sphinx]

obscurus is an aye though, I'll switch my deimos mark to it

[wraith sphinx]

hsword is fun but I need to be "in the zone" to feel like using it

it's a demanding weapon

[blissful solar]

crusher might be among my favorites right now. but i basically have a "flavor of the month" type of taste so who knows what ill like next month

and the poor poor psyker class doesnt have that

[wraith sphinx]

for me it's closer to flavour of the week hahah

but bottom line I just frequently change both my melee and ranged weapons to keep things fresh

tho when it comes to guns I'm admittedly biased towards the guns that have the loyalist moebian skin ✨

[blissful solar]

i really liked taxe and knife, played them for like a couple months (mostly taxe), liked heavy sword for a week, now am trying crusher.

[wraith sphinx]

what a beauty

[plucky flax]

Next month is arbites shield spam

[blissful solar]

arbites could have crusher

you never know.........

[wraith sphinx]

I'm going to play psyker with one hand and just watch arbites players shield spam

peaktide is so back

[plucky flax]

It should have shield and maul and probably a single shock maul

Dual mauls

[wraith sphinx]

I'm 99% certain arbites will have access to shock maul, combat shotgun and some other generic melee

[plucky flax]

Weird there's no dual wielding in this game. Maybe they saving those weapons for a new class in 2 years

[wraith sphinx]

dual wield would look wonky outside of a class thematically made to fit it imo

maybe for a hive ganger type class?

[plucky flax]

Vt2 had a bunch of dual wields

Why would it look wonky

[wraith sphinx]

It's very rare to encounter dual wielding stuff in 40k outside of like khorne worshippers

it would look weird

[blissful solar]

dual wielding force swords would go hard

maybe im wrong but arent force swords weightless for the psyker?

[wraith sphinx]

but honestly I'm down for whatever fatshark cooks as long as it's not a class with an OP lifesteal ability

[plucky flax]

Its weird for a random ass prisoner to have access to thunder hammer or power sword too but here we are

[wraith sphinx]

or just anything pertaining to alternate class specific healing because that will baby mode the entire game

[wraith sphinx]

look mate finders keepers

I stole that power sword from a dead guy fair and square

[mental grail]

I wish swapping weapons between characters was a thing, I have so many mauls bro

[mental grail]

I literally never got this argument

It's not yours

It's Grendyls

[plucky flax]

[mental grail]

you only get access to good weapons as you go up in rank, and only start commonly using powerful weapons and such after you're lvl 30

The bone skins have multiple lines indicating that the weapon is more important than you, and it will be used by another after you die

[wraith sphinx]

multiple characters, especially Hadron, state this repeatedly

[plucky flax]

Okay so why can't we have dual wield?

It's not our weapons so give it.

[wraith sphinx]

idk ask fatshark

I just said it'd be weird for all the classes to suddenly have that

It'd be much more valuable and interesting to have it as a class specific gimmick

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-travis-scott-fein-rap-hip-hop-gif-10297621246310388992

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/26g-of-protein-meal-prep-silly-kitten-cats-cuddle-cat-love-gif-9077332425156741908

[plucky flax]

Tasty lunch.

[dense wolf]

NOOOOO

[mental grail]

Icl

Iglesias is cooking again

[wraith sphinx]

straight fire

[autumn lark]

the middle one straight up looks like a chaos cultust

[mental grail]

he's totally trustworthy

I promise

[autumn lark]

the armor on the first dude looks so damn good ngl

[mental grail]

I'm focused on the dog

shit is so tuff

[ornate hamlet]

Best gun weapon for Psyker?

[upbeat kestrel]

vraks mk5 or reconlasgun 6c

[blissful solar]

so ruff

[wraith sphinx]

dumdum and fire frenzy on vraks mk5, dumdum and infernus on recon las iirc

[upbeat kestrel]

yep

[radiant frigate]

force sword and dagger when

[mental grail]

Force sword and boltpistol when?

[radiant frigate]

melee force staff when

[wraith sphinx]

double melee force staves when

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/stellar-blade-eve-stellar-blade-opening-chest-game-opening-chest-gif-8248343253166382733

God bless stellar blade and using in game cutscene rather than pre rendered

[blissful solar]

i want to buy it but damn 60 bucks is a lot for a game i might not really care to play much

[plucky flax]

If youre into third person action it's good

Like sekiro or dmc

Nier obviously

[blissful solar]

ive barely played such games

[upper sun]

dmc4 is peak

3 is playable 5 is shit

[blissful solar]

ive only really played dmc the random reboot

i did play nier too

[upper sun]

noooooooo

[blissful solar]

i liked it :)

[upper sun]

the reboot was uhhh

i mean mechanically it was fine

but i hated the story

a lot of the fans did to

[indigo plank]

Lot of people hated the Angel/Demon weapon system too

I remember that at the time

[plucky flax]

You can just play it for great 'content'....

[blissful solar]

🙏🏻

[upper sun]

im making great rounds with this image tbh

[weak sierra]

I say that and look like that

[blissful solar]

they'd be pissed even if you dressed her up modestly

in fact they might even be more pissed

[indigo plank]

Sex sells, but I don’t blame anyone for getting exhausted and going “ugh goon slop” once in a while with modern gaming

It’s just gotten flagrant with Asian games especially. Not to say they weren’t always cheeky about it in the past, but it felt less like the main marketing point for some titles

[plucky flax]

There are outfits that straight up show her panties as she runs and it's just vanilla game not even modded.

[indigo plank]

Jfc lmao

[upper sun]

yea

[indigo plank]

Kinda the point

[blissful solar]

buys it

i dont really even want that from a game

[upper sun]

nier had an option to explode your clothes

[indigo plank]

I mean hey, Sex with Hitler exists if you want to buy that. It’s your wallet

[blissful solar]

but her looking really nice and having nice hair and clothing is nice

[upper sun]

tbh after i saw the anime for nier i kinda wanna play it

[indigo plank]

Nier Automata is a fuckin slog

[upper sun]

🤔

[indigo plank]

Fans will tell you “the first 20 hours are dogshit by design”

[upper sun]

so ur saying its good value

[indigo plank]

“You’re supposed to get through the first/second endings quickly to get to the actual plot”

[blissful solar]

me who only did the first ending: hehe

[upper sun]

🤔

[indigo plank]

Meanwhile the first and second playthroughs are full of mundane side quests and backtracking through empty open areas

Also the camera literally pans down as you run to look up the MC’s skirt because Yoko Taro

[upper sun]

are we talking witcher 1 levels of backtracking?

[blissful solar]

filler arc with fan service, basically

[elfin dirge]

Optimise the first twenty hours for brainless gooning, then let 'em experience the story after forming a nut-based attachment to the character. Genius.

[indigo plank]

I mean “literally hold R2 to sprint and walk across 2-3 massive empty fields just to tell some bitch her sister dead”

[blissful solar]

that's immersive

[indigo plank]

You can also feed pellets to a boar/deer and get a horrifically jank running animation that jerks the camera when it sprints

It’s slightly faster than running

[upper sun]

just cheat lmao

[indigo plank]

10/10 truly peak vidya

“Robots are people too”

[standing ovation, GOTY, 2B in every game]

[upper sun]

like i hate the economy in most CDPR games

[indigo plank]

I don’t think I’ve ever hurt for money in a CDPR game

[upper sun]

yeah

you could do anything to get money

[indigo plank]

Witcher 3 I’d just fucking break my shit because it cost like nothing to fix

[upper sun]

so i just end up ignoring it and giving myself 10000 moneies

[indigo plank]

Meanwhile Oblivion remake I buy 20 repair hammers and do it myself

[upper sun]

oh no they changed that

repair costs got buffed in witcher 3

[indigo plank]

Lame

Adds nothing to gameplay to force me to pay more to repair my clown tunic in Velen

[upper sun]

ye i ended up giving myself all the money i could need

and all the fucking recipes

[indigo plank]

First entire 1/3 of TW3 is dogshit and any fan will usually agree

[upper sun]

and prerevealed fast travel points

ye

[indigo plank]

I hate when a good game has a piss awful intro

Looking at you, KOTOR 2

[upper sun]

also one thing i really fucking hated about w3

crossbows dont count to set bonus

[indigo plank]

Crossbow felt like an afterthought

[upper sun]

ye 100%

i dont think ive ever used them

[indigo plank]

Use it for 2 things, grounding aerial enemies and one shotting drowners

[upper sun]

except when forced

[wraith sphinx]

Nu total war just sucks man

I tried playing tww1 and I anguished over how useless the ranged troops feel

Made me want to play medieval 2 again instead

[indigo plank]

Mount and Blade Warband ruined RTS games for me years ago

[elfin dirge]

TWW3 would make you feel the opposite, depending on the faction you play.

[wraith sphinx]

I don't want to give creative assembly a cent more

[blissful solar]

but what about alien isolation 2

[indigo plank]

I’m hopeful but I’m wondering if it’ll even hold a candle to the OG

[wraith sphinx]

Also likely not

[indigo plank]

This company makes strategy games and then made the single greatest survival horror game on a fluke, then went back to making slop

[wraith sphinx]

I got the first game for free

[blissful solar]

it really is super good

a little drawn out at points but it doesnt feel too bad

[indigo plank]

It runs on a literal potato too

And still looks phenomenal

[wraith sphinx]

Alien isolation is incredible but horror games aren't my thing

[blissful solar]

i still pray for an avp game

[indigo plank]

Fair dos

Aww AVP remake would be sick

[wraith sphinx]

AVP remake would go hard

[plucky flax]

There's a multiplayer versus avp game right?

[indigo plank]

Modern gamers would shit themselves at running on the ceiling

[blissful solar]

all of them have asymmetrical multiplayers, yeah

[indigo plank]

Yeah AVP3 was I think the main one people think of

[blissful solar]

idk if avp 2010 needs a remake

[indigo plank]

With Specimen 6 as the alien campaign

[wraith sphinx]

I'm honestly just happy alien ip games broke the curse of being terrible

[elfin dirge]

Dark Descent, my beloved

[blissful solar]

dark descent is cool but i dont really jive with games like that

[wraith sphinx]

IIRC gearbox's A:CM was considered the worst game of the previous decade

[indigo plank]

Honestly they were always flip flopping the same way Star Wars games did

It’s just such an old property everyone’s taken a whack at it

[wraith sphinx]

I disagree, both of those still got that dog in them

It's just a matter of what one does with it

[indigo plank]

I’m not sure what you mean

[blissful solar]

yeah there's a lot of hits and misses with both properties. but they do have legendary games too

and indeed there are many of them

[wraith sphinx]

I mean that the IPs being old has little to no bearing on the viability of making a good licenced media piece

[blissful solar]

like kinect star wars

[indigo plank]

I was saying that we’ve had studios that don’t exist anymore make shovelware Genesis games for Alien that have to stand alongside AVP for the 360

I’m not saying Star Wars and Alien are dried up at all

[wraith sphinx]

Main issue with star wars were the fucktastic barebones movies made to nostalgiabait people and peddle merch

Oh okay then

[blissful solar]

the sequel trilogy is literally terrible

episode 7 is okay

anyway avp2 was the best avp game

[indigo plank]

Star Wars likewise had dogshit GBA games just made to bank off the Prequels and now mobile slop to bank off the Sequels which has to stand alongside legends like Pod Racer, Power Battles, KOTOR, Jedi Knight, and JFO/Survivor

[wraith sphinx]

avp2 rules

[indigo plank]

I’m still upset that Starfighter didn’t have a mission editor

[wraith sphinx]

remember when games workshop had a phase of peddling out their licence to 50 trillion mobile game developers

[indigo plank]

They literally made Tie Fighter/X-Wing Modern Edition and forgot the main appeal of flight sims

ALL YOU CAN DO IS “FLEET BATTLE” AND PVP

No unique missions where you escort a convoy like in TF/XWing, no simple dogfighting missions, no bombing raids

[blissful solar]

i am obligated to mention star wars galaxies at least once. so there it is