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vivid scaffold
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Anybody willing to help out with Malleus Monstronum? Beastofnurgle

jovial juniper
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@upper sun

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@deft stump

wraith sphinx
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@marble crater ggs as usual sir, have a good rest of the night ๐Ÿซก

marble crater
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You too staregryn

brazen compass
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GG, unsanctioned psyker

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You can't hide your identity from us

strong gulch
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Unsanctioned Sut

marble crater
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No, I'm very proud of my name staregryn

brazen compass
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Nice try, UnsanctionedSutvVoO

marble crater
strong gulch
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When I'm up at a decent time, this super charged psyker should carry me.

marble crater
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Carry in what? staregryn

strong gulch
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H40 KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
strong gulch
marble crater
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The only Havoc 2.0 games I played were the 3 we did in the first week or so

strong gulch
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Valid. I'm washed aways. Die on mid havoc.

wraith sphinx
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I tried and failed to get past h21 with pubs and played several 27 attempts with people from here

marble crater
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I will walk 10m after mission start and die Guarded

wraith sphinx
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think it was bean clad and lamb

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we didn't win any but was the most fun havoc matches I had period

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I remember trying to play some more havoc pubs after that, saw havoc forged smykers smiting karnak twins and went "aw hell nah I'm not playing this shit anymore" KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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Playing with clad is always fun, in the past whenever we played someone would get netted and the other died while trying to rescue, our win rate was... not great

strong gulch
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And then we get everyone saying "What happened?? Sorry I didn't kill the trapper."

marble crater
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Now let's see if I can finish Cyberpunk before going to bed whatthefuck_heresy

wraith sphinx
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I'm gonna play some more ratatan demo before going to bed I think

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awesome game

marble crater
wraith sphinx
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ZUN TAKA ZUN TAKA ZUN TAKATAN ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘‰

marble crater
strong gulch
deft stump
vivid scaffold
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@deft stump Not yet

deft stump
vivid scaffold
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ingame is fine

deft stump
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Use the Fatshark code to invite.

earnest cobalt
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๐Ÿ˜

wraith sphinx
narrow herald
upper sun
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smh

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just noticed a steam friend with a level 30 ogryn

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i begged him to get the game last year

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BEGGED

wraith sphinx
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Sounds like you were succesful

upper sun
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he levelled without me ๐Ÿ˜ญ

deft stump
narrow herald
weary crane
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I think bubble psyker will always be best at clutches in havoc, I placed it down on respawn point, immune to nets and gunners and flamers, then kinetic deflection protects me from melee attack for long enough to revive

marble crater
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Without boosting whatthefuck_heresy

wraith sphinx
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Can't wait to help my friends level their arbites lmao

marble crater
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@upper sun it's happening

upper sun
marble crater
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But it's the final mission

upper sun
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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did you do the thing?

marble crater
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We will find out once I see what ending I get whatthefuck_heresy

zenith fiber
brazen compass
# zenith fiber huh

It's fake news, don't believe the hype (410 and below have rounding errors)

zenith fiber
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so they're both the same in practice?

brazen compass
wooden sand
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How Boomstick build for Pysker

earnest cobalt
modest perch
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what is the deal with bubble not stopping nets anymore

long wharf
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pretty sure it still does

nocturne dust
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It tries to

brazen compass
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It does its darnest

long wharf
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it can't help you if you're poking your head outside the bubble

nocturne dust
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If you're too close to the trapper, the net spawns inside you and you get netted anyway before bubble deletes the net

long wharf
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or near a corner

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or on the other side of a horde

nocturne dust
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also a ping thing so it isn't consistent

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Is very dumb and frustrating when bubble decides to not work on nets tho KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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I have yet to experience bubble not killing the net projectile

nocturne dust
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I might have a recording of it happening recently-ish?

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I'd have to look for it in a couple hours or something

long wharf
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I totally believe the scenario of being right in front of the trapper and the net spawns inside the player, colliding and trapping the player before the bubble object detects the net projectile and destroys it

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frankly, that's just warp fuckery at play

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that scenario has "typical FartShack shenanigans" smell of authenticity to it

modest perch
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ive seen it happen in the middle of a bubble with enough distance that the net is obviously not spawning within the player

long wharf
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I'd need to see a recording of that to believe it

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the bubble destroys all projectiles inside it

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I don't fear even standing in front of a Bonbon inside a bubble

nocturne dust
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Only thing I've seen it work conpletely consistently against is hitscan, even grenades will ignore it and just phase through sometimes

modest perch
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but its a persistent issue

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i think shes got a 3rd person view of it happening to me as well

nocturne dust
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I probably have video of the grenade thing

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but like, I'd have to look through several weeks of footage

long wharf
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and any effect that spreads on the ground will spread through the bubble's edge

modest perch
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yea but thats normal

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is it not ?

nocturne dust
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I mean the grenade just phases through the bubble and explodes in the middle of it

long wharf
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I think the bomber grenade simply dropping and exploding shouldn't happen

modest perch
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eh

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yea

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it at least sorta makes sense but it would be nice if totally neutralized them

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or made them bounce in a random direction KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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it'd be nice of pox gas didn't spawn inside the bubble

nocturne dust
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Grenades should be bounced to the edge

long wharf
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I think it's largely an issue of FartShack not being sure just what the nature of the bubble really is

nocturne dust
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Wall should fling grenades back at bombers KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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and instead of looking at it from a consistency perspective, just making ad hoc gameplay decisions about it

nocturne dust
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Honestly, wall should just reflect all projectiles

long wharf
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reflection is far more expensive than simply destroying projectiles

nocturne dust
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expensive?

long wharf
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computationally

nocturne dust
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Bruh, have you seen Darktide optimization ๐Ÿ’€

long wharf
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you're doubling the raycasting

nocturne dust
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We already had reflection on Deflector before

long wharf
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that's not a reason to make it worse ๐Ÿ™‚

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did Deflector reflect?

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I thought it just stopped

nocturne dust
long wharf
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maybe in the closed beta

nocturne dust
long wharf
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I've played since the open beta, and don't recall Deflector ever reflecting shots

long wharf
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and raycasting is one of the more expensive operations of a physics engine

nocturne dust
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and also, doesn't need to be that either

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You just remember the owner of the projectile and use the same calculation, doubling the visual and adding a tiny delay to it

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and then deal damage to the owner

long wharf
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you still have to do the second raycast

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to know where the second visual ends

nocturne dust
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also, only lasers would need this

long wharf
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enemy shots aren't actual projectiles

nocturne dust
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Yes

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this is for hitscan

long wharf
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...

nocturne dust
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Doesn't work for grenades, lol

long wharf
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you aren't getting it

nocturne dust
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You are welcome to explain it to me

long wharf
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the greater point is, I have full faith in FartShack fucking that up as well

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likely'd end up a bug where the reflection happens to infinity on multiple bubbles, crashing the game

nocturne dust
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which is why you're not doing a second raycast

long wharf
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yes you do

nocturne dust
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It's a false reflection

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You keep track of the owner of the shot, on hitting wall you deal damage to the owner and delay a duplicate laser (no need for normal bullets, just flinch the owner as if he was hit by a bullet)

long wharf
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... why would you damage the owner?

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that's not reflection

nocturne dust
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Because it's reflection

long wharf
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that's "returning"

nocturne dust
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Wtf is reflection to you

long wharf
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the proper question is what the hell you think reflection is

modest perch
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tbh id just settle for them fixing the nets in the middle of the bubbles

nocturne dust
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Reflection is games generally means 'return to sender' damage

long wharf
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reflection != "return to sender"

nocturne dust
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it does, actually

long wharf
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that'd be deflection, which can be purposeful reaiming

nocturne dust
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No, deflection is imprecise returning

zenith fiber
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is 410 just for stamina

nocturne dust
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where you would actually have to do additional complex calculations

zenith fiber
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or was whoever told me that wrong

long wharf
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totally wrong

nocturne dust
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No u

brazen compass
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Nay, thou

long wharf
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a reflection off a surface involves angle of incidence

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whereas you can purposefully deflect something

nocturne dust
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Sure, but that's not how the terminology has evolved in videogames

long wharf
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I'd argue you aren't going to find any actual definition anywhere for any such formal meaning

nocturne dust
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All semantics anyway ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Doesn't matter

zenith fiber
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both of these words seem synonymous in this context

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but uh, if anything I'd say void is correct

nocturne dust
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Anyway, Wall should have a 'return to sender' effect chadgryn

long wharf
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physics strongly disagrees

zenith fiber
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deflection usually implies that a course change that is not returning to its origin

long wharf
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there shouldn't be any such "return to sender", that's stupid

zenith fiber
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reflection is usually the opposite

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in common parlance

long wharf
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wrong again

nocturne dust
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It would give wall an actual use

long wharf
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deflection is simply a change in course

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there's no further meaning beyond that

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however, you can purposefully deflect things

zenith fiber
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to turn aside

nocturne dust
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You can also purposefully reflect things

long wharf
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yes, but you don't change the nature of the course change

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you reflect something by purposefully aligning your surface such that the reflected path ends where you want

nocturne dust
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You're looking at this through a physics lense

long wharf
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whereas with deflection, you cause the couse to change how you arbitrarily want

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because it's a physics term

nocturne dust
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which is like... cool, but not relevant

long wharf
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that's the only formal definition

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
long wharf
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to argue that there's a "video game definition" is downright stupid

nocturne dust
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throwing back

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lol

long wharf
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yes, and look at every single image describing that process

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it's precisely as I described

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it's not "throwing back to sender"

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you can't gloss over "as a mirror or other surface"

nocturne dust
zenith fiber
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the word has meaning beyond its definition in physics lol

long wharf
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absolutely ๐Ÿ’€

nocturne dust
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lol, the surface does nothing to prove your point

long wharf
zenith fiber
nocturne dust
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to give back

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to give something back

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to bend back

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like, these are all return to sender ๐Ÿ˜ญ

long wharf
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no they're not

nocturne dust
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lmao, alright my guy

long wharf
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they're using the definition of "back" as in "opposite of forwards"

zenith fiber
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uhhhh

nocturne dust
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....yes

long wharf
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as in "away from the surface"

zenith fiber
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uhhhhhhh

long wharf
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not "back to the source position"

nocturne dust
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in the opposite direction, si

long wharf
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sigh

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regardless, any "return to sender" is clearly not the purpose of wall nor bubble

nocturne dust
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Sure, and?

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Who cares about the 'purpose'

zenith fiber
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that seems like a really silly statement when talking about potential buffs or reworks

nocturne dust
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Wall needs a buff, that would be such a buff

long wharf
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the purpose is the whole point of the start of the conversation

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the bubble has confused purpose

nocturne dust
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No, the purpose Fatshark intends is irrelevant

long wharf
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is it blocking projectiles? it is only blocking bullets?

blissful solar
long wharf
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why are some projectiles destroyed inside the bubble and not others?

nocturne dust
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That's bubble tho

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which is superior to wall

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by a lot

long wharf
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like I said before, FartShack made ad hoc mechanics decisions without considering consistency at all

nocturne dust
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Sure

long wharf
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wall does have a purpose, though

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to assist in BB speed

nocturne dust
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and now I'm saying wall should send projectiles back

nocturne dust
long wharf
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that'd look really wrong

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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How would that look wrong, lmao

long wharf
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lol, yes really

nocturne dust
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Bruh Servoskull

long wharf
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how does the wall know who shot the bullet?

nocturne dust
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What, programmatically?

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Or lore-wise?

long wharf
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no, lore-wise

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explain it to me

blissful solar
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magic

nocturne dust
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warp magic

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lol

long wharf
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then it might as well not be a wall

long wharf
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call it "Bullet Returner"

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"Orb of Returning"

nocturne dust
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because it, currently, is a wall

long wharf
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because it is a wall

blissful solar
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the field of reflection

nocturne dust
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yeah, and that can change

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we could call it mirror

long wharf
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nah, FartShack isn't going to change how wall works

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and having a wall that effectively shoots every enemy that shoots it would be... broken

nocturne dust
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I don't care about what Fatshark is going to do, this is a hypothetical about what they should do

long wharf
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no, just a hypothetical about what you want them to do

nocturne dust
long wharf
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I definitely disagree about the "should"

long wharf
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from a game balance perspective, it's not a good idea

blissful solar
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it could reflect only like 1/4 of the shots or something

nocturne dust
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I mean, from a game balance perspective, Darktide is a garbage fire

modest perch
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the real question of balance is what should we balance around

long wharf
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now, I would love to see players able to hit a grenade with a melee swing and send it back to wear it came from

nocturne dust
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Like, if we want wall to be equivalent to bubble

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it clearly needs more

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whether we want that is another question

modest perch
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at the very least needs to be BIGGER

nocturne dust
long wharf
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I don't think there's really a reason to make wall equivalent to bubble

modest perch
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im gettin shot in the head over that silly lil fence

long wharf
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bubble is clearly the upgrade

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wall could definitely stand to be bigger, I agree

nocturne dust
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it exists ๐Ÿ˜ญ

long wharf
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maybe have the "you get two walls" also upgrade their size

modest perch
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yea but its such a troll for a meme build

nocturne dust
long wharf
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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welcome to FartShack game mechanics

nocturne dust
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which is why they should buff it, and one of those ways could be reflection KEKW_ogryn

modest perch
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anyone else wish theyd give psyker the bolter ?

long wharf
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you could replace the "two walls" upgrade node with "turn wall into a barrier that returns all shots and projectiles back to their origin"

nocturne dust
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I don't like gunker much so no KEKW_ogryn

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you could

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it would be cool

long wharf
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with only one at your disposal, that'd be less broken

nocturne dust
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Idk, I find two charges to be pretty meh

modest perch
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it would be funny if truly functioned as a wall

nocturne dust
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cooldown is still the same anyway

modest perch
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just total stoppage with physics and everything

long wharf
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but even still, I don't think that'd make up for how bubble negates projectiles and ranged attacks within the bubble

modest perch
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imagine being able to place it an angle to be used as a ramp

nocturne dust
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Idk, would be a very strong way to deal with those moments where you're pinned down by gunners (ideally)

long wharf
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upgrade node - "Wall gains bouncy physics"

nocturne dust
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so it would at least have a niche

long wharf
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turns it into a trampoline

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complete with "boing" sound effect

modest perch
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boioioooioioioioing

nocturne dust
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I don't think the Darktide engine could handle a trampoline KEKW_ogryn

modest perch
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imagine the sound of 50 walkers getting yeeted into the air

long wharf
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true, it couldn't even handle the poxhounds jumping off walls at launch

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the dogs were literally launching themselves into the atmosphere and crashing games

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that was a fun time

nocturne dust
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  1. spawn trampoline
  2. turn entirety of 40k into Tzeentchian hellscape
  3. ???
  4. profit
modest perch
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weve come so far from that shitty launch skill tree too

long wharf
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yep

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Darktide is actually in a good place now

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launch was a total shitshow

long wharf
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the game needed another solid year and a half

modest perch
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i came back right after the skill tree update. i didnt even know it happened. just reinstalled cus i was bored

long wharf
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now Sour Milk needs revamped

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Milkies are pointless

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he should be paying out Aquilas

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25 or 50 a week

nocturne dust
modest perch
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let me convert my melkbucks into aquilas

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(i have over 200k)

long wharf
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I don't have any facts on the matter, but my suspicion is that FartShack desperately needed money coming in

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so Darktide released far before it was ready

long wharf
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and shortly after major systems were cut and game features were being triaged

nocturne dust
long wharf
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everyone remembers the interview where the Darktide lead talked about customizable weapons

nocturne dust
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Scope creep is dangerous

modest perch
long wharf
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and then the famous "Darktide isn't Call of Duty" retort after release by whatshisnuts

long wharf
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I think they found that their engine made the customizable weapon system they had far too kludgy and problematic

modest perch
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its not just a fartshart issue its industry wide

long wharf
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it's not like FartShack is owned by another company

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they're not publically traded, either

modest perch
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and gaming tends to be looked upon with suspicion by investors as the he product is extremely nonfungible and consumer tastes are unpredictable

long wharf
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well, that's irrelevant when you don't need investors

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because you're already releasing games on your own

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unless FartShack was internally talking about going public with an IPO

modest perch
long wharf
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FartShack is Swedish

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no Wall St there

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I'm sure Sweden has something

blissful pulsar
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Running greatsword gaze psyker, whats the best 'boss killer' ranged weapon to pair with it?

modest perch
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doesnt mean they couldnt have a dual listing

blissful pulsar
long wharf
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you're already going SG

modest perch
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probably recon

blissful pulsar
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recon is better than vraks for bosses?

nocturne dust
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no

long wharf
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some people like recon, some go columbus IAG

nocturne dust
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lol

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Recon is actually worse than a boss-focused Inferno

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Shredder isn't even damage

fiery wigeon
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vraks is leagues above anything else in sheer damage output

long wharf
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I've been in chats with someone insisting that shredder pistol is good dps

nocturne dust
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The best boss killer on Psyker is Vraks, followed by Laspistol and Inferno (uncanny shenanigans)

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Recon is decent, but in the same way EK is decent

long wharf
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he couldn't get past comparing it to other guns

blissful pulsar
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How would las pistol be built for boss damage? Unyielding, burn crit, ?

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oh it has Dumdum

nocturne dust
long wharf
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laspistol is still far better than it has any right to be

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even after the rate of fire fix

blissful pulsar
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Assuming you want the faster fire rate version

long wharf
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dump stopping power

nocturne dust
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Just sacrifice your fingers to the gun god KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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you want mobility with it

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you aren't shooting things with the laspistol to force them to stop running

nocturne dust
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You would dump either stability or mobility

blissful pulsar
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Stopping power is literally damage vs unyeilding and flak

nocturne dust
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Yeah, don't dump stopping power

blissful pulsar
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Why would you dump that? o.O

modest perch
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man just get the full auto mod

long wharf
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oh, I didn't know stopping power affected unyielding damage

modest perch
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not worth giving my yourself carpal tunnel over

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or worsening it

nocturne dust
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Stability and mobility don't matter much. Stability is only noticeable at long ranges, mobility just isn't a huge amount of speed or anything

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at least, on laspistol

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Stability is important on some guns KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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those damage numbers only affect the shot itself, not the burning damage

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what are the weakpoint multipliers for the laspistol?

nocturne dust
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2x or something?

long wharf
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I thought the whole point was ammo economy and infernus

nocturne dust
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No

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You want weakspots and crit

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It's a weakspot and crit machine

long wharf
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ok then

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does it have a higher base crit chance then?

nocturne dust
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I don't recall, but you normally run it with Scrier's.

long wharf
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sure

strong gulch
long wharf
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dang

nocturne dust
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That's the mk 2

strong gulch
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If you want ammo econ, go recon.

long wharf
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goddamn, the flak crit weakspot damage range is nuts

strong gulch
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Or if you suck at weakspots.

buoyant maple
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very high vs flak

strong gulch
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Or feck it and take laspsitol even if you can't aim because it's cuter and has funny push

buoyant maple
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weird vs maniac (low weakspot dmg but high crit-body and crit-weakspot dmg)

nocturne dust
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still ~2x

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Carapace weakspot tho KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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well yeah, lore-wise, carapace was designed to withstand laser fire

buoyant maple
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mk2 laspistol dmg reference (veteran)

summer timber
long wharf
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bring a parachute next time

summer timber
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how silly of me

long wharf
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maybe a grappling hook

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the omnissiah provides

summer timber
strong gulch
summer timber
summer timber
summer timber
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Oh well, good things its all just a dream

blissful solar
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reconnect mod woulda saved you

brazen compass
brazen compass
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Once was on Gloriana, the second was the smelter mission

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That day, I felt not very good things

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As a matter of fact, yesterday, it happened to me in the Psykhanium Lmao

strong gulch
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Gloriana is curse extra cursed for falling through the map. The beginning in particular. Oh, you stood where stairs and floor converge?? Have fun in space.

brazen compass
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Yeah sadge

modest perch
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i got yeeted through the wall by a chaos spawn there and had to solo it while everyone else was dead

brazen compass
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On Gloriana, it was at the.. 3rd medicae spot

modest perch
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standing on a tiny ledge above the infinite abyss just swinging at it

strong gulch
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always a cspawn or mutie bannishing someone to the backrooms

brazen compass
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Had a H40 1.0 run ruined by a CS throwing me out of bounds

summer timber
# modest perch i got yeeted through the wall by a chaos spawn there and had to solo it while ev...

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lapis pasture
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cliff hanger is driving me insane Siblings

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am I meant to kill an enemy by knocking them off something 7 times or is it knocking a group of 7 off?

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I swear I have completed 100x over but am only on 6/7

indigo plank
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Pretty sure they all gotta be at once. You can use force sword push and smite to launch them into places like the hole in smelter complex finale

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I got it during extraction one mission. Just asked the slabs to let me mow the lawn and ledge them rq and they were kind enough to just sit and watch

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The ones where you recover 5 canisters from the 2 trains, and the disable the Skyfire AA mission are really good for it because you can camp the extendo-bridge to the storm raptor

dusk void
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Is there something wrong with the ritual spawns? it keeps freaking spawning rituals from another area. how is that fair?

sinful olive
#

sometimes it's manageable, othertimes borderline impossible

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usually on maps with multiple levels/floors

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also

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grinding up some weapon masteries to find that deathdealer archetype + scrier's gaze + shredder autopistol is hilarious

dusk void
sinful olive
#

nonstop bullet hose + basically unlimited scrier's

deft stump
sinful olive
deft stump
#

Or ehm, the triple hell in Excise Vault if you roll a nat 1.

#

Enjoy speedrunning 3 rituals.

dusk void
#

Did y'all complain to Fatshark about it?

#

I literally lost my desire to play with this unfair bullshit

#

Havoc 2.0 my ass

deft stump
#

Only reason I know is cos we got said triple hell... at least it was low havocs so was still possible to speedrun clear them.

#

GL in H40 lul.

dusk void
blissful solar
#

the least they could do is not let normal bosses spawn until AFTER the rituals are destroyed

dusk void
deft stump
#

Naw, enjoy 5 bosses and twins while speedrunning.

dusk void
deft stump
#

The triple threat is that cos they all activate at the same time.

dense wolf
verbal thistle
#

yup

#

havoc too hard

blissful solar
#

the moral of the story is to shoot at the rituals

verbal thistle
#

cant even duo it

#

oh wait

#

plug.

blissful solar
#

no one cares

verbal thistle
#

yup

blissful solar
#

the problem is how inconsistent it makes the game

#

though truly you just gotta shoot at the rituals instead of running up to them

sinful olive
#

ogryn bomb can help a lot too when that situation pops up

deft stump
blissful solar
#

good times

deft stump
#

Unless you are telling me there's a Armskore coil gun in this game.

blissful solar
#

what's weird is that any suggestion to improve it

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can just be met with like "it's not hard"

#

better to just not think about havoc because of that fact alone, truly a cancerous gamemode

deft stump
#

Bonus with The Mole overclock.

cloud pilot
#

Did the mention a price point for the arbites?

blissful solar
#

$12

cloud pilot
#

I THOUGHT I WAS IN GENERAL LOLL

deft stump
strong gulch
lapis pasture
strong gulch
dense wolf
strong gulch
#

Ooh nevermind. I feel unwell. You can ask Clad or Ainz if they will help get cliffhanger if pugs aren't working still.

deft stump
strong gulch
#

only 1am here right now

so not that late

#

still tho

deft stump
strong gulch
#

Ye

lapis pasture
plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

I have made a Poor Decision. Tried to revive a teammate when I should've fought. Thought the yellow HP would stop the sniper from interrupting the revive. I was wrong.

ripe obsidian
#

There were 2 bosses up, 2 teammates down, plus however many Ogryn enemies and specials. I figured we had a better chance if I could get someone back up.

plucky flax
wraith sphinx
#

Unfortunate

ripe obsidian
#

Unfortunate indeed. Series of bad events in an area with no room to maneuver well. That drop in Enclavum Baross right before the long hallway

plucky flax
#

Ah I know which part.

#

Drop into a medicae into a section with 2 paths.

#

No good room to do a circular rotation.

wraith sphinx
#

Honestly the nastiest map in the game except maybe excise vault finale with clueless pubs

#

It has the evilest pox gas version too

plucky flax
#

Hardest map in game imo is silo cluster.

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Fail at the start 80% of the time.

#

The area just before the first medicae is hard too.

#

Then the drop into dh is also hard. whatthefuck_heresy

dense wolf
#

drop into a dh life

plucky flax
#

Haven't played that map in ages tho nooooo

#

I guess FS just don't want to fix it and put it into havoc.

wraith sphinx
#

It comes close but I don't necessarily agree

ripe obsidian
wraith sphinx
#

On that section you can at least retreat away from the bridge center so nobody falls to their death

plucky flax
#

End event is hard too when no one wants to do the eyes objective.

wraith sphinx
#

Enclavum has... just pitfalls theroughout that punish headless chickens

plucky flax
#

And so many shooters.

#

Baross is a solo-able map for me.

wraith sphinx
plucky flax
#

Give bloodborne on pc RAGE

wraith sphinx
#

Emulate...

plucky flax
#

Still no smooth 60+fps ps3 emulator.

wraith sphinx
#

Also on second thought you might be right

plucky flax
#

After work today I can goon to stellar blade though.

#

So all is good. PeepoHappy

wraith sphinx
#

I recall clutching baross multiple times but I cant remember ever clutching the silo cluster finale

plucky flax
#

The mods are going to be insane for this game. whatthefuck_heresy

dense wolf
plucky flax
#

What the hell

#

A lot of gooners got up early.

dense wolf
#

yup

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and theyre what u expect

plucky flax
#

Transparent suit / skimpier outfit

#

Or bigger assets

dense wolf
#

yup

#

all

plucky flax
dense wolf
#

all of the above

plucky flax
#

I'll check nexus now after intro

dense wolf
#

indeed

plucky flax
dense wolf
#

youll get flashed by nexus when u go to that page

plucky flax
#

Just finished intro. I can confirm it's 10/10 game. whatthefuck_heresy

dense wolf
#

i need

#

but i wait for sale

plucky flax
#

Best bet is winter sale on steam.

wraith sphinx
#

Will probably go on a sale in autumn depending on sales numbers

dense wolf
#

yea

#

did u get the nikke and nier one too

wraith sphinx
#

Is too new to be a part of summer sale tho

plucky flax
#

I dunno I got the complete edition.

dense wolf
#

ah

plucky flax
#

So I got a few extra outfits already.

#

There's a super hot chinese dress.

dense wolf
#

mods will give u more

#

:D

plucky flax
#

Tru

#

I don't mind giving sony some extra money though so they can port ps5 games to pc faster.

#

Eventually maybe day 1 release on pc too.

dense wolf
#

tru

wraith sphinx
#

Snoy is incompetent when it comes to games sorry

#

I dont see that ever changing

autumn lark
#

Imagine a world where death stranding 2 launched on pc the same day as ps5

dense wolf
#

never

plucky flax
#

I've yet to play 1

#

Baby delivery simulator think

raw token
#

this still best blessings? penetrating flame seems pretty good too

plucky flax
#

Damn that's a low warp resistance stick nice one

#

But nah nexus and blaze away more damage

#

Try change crit chance to unyielding

#

Browsing stellar blade nexus at work. Heavy risk blob_sweat

dense wolf
#

First thing they show you is yeah might need to look at home ๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

They throw it all at you

plucky flax
#

Aye.. no more gooning at work

formal harness
#

In 40, penetrating flames + blaze away is superior thanks to the brittleness stacking on top of other sources of rending-brittleness additively, making tough armor waves way easier to deal with

#

With auric, hp pool is so little brittleness wonโ€™t matter so going with another blessing like nexus makes sense for faster stacking

#

Fyi it wonโ€™t help much with soulblazeโ€™s adms as they are already cracked af, it will only truly help you with carapace dmg.
BUT it is a biiig help for your teammates to chew through armor overall

plucky flax
#

I tried penetrating flames in havoc and my damage tanked hard.

#

The ogryns already kill carapace regardless if I have it or not

#

Maybe I need to channel it in a direct path rather than fast sweep like I normally do. The stacks dont go up that fast when sweeping the screen

formal harness
#

Ofc it wonโ€™t do a lot to increase your dps, it does a lot for your teammates. Makes you truly grateful to have it fr.

plucky flax
#

Be selfish in war yes

formal harness
#

Makes ogryns faster at chewing through armor as well

summer prairie
#

not sure about it hurting your dps but you'll definitely proc ee less, makes it harder to play super aggressively

#

I guess if you run bubble it doesn't matter

formal harness
#

Itโ€™s still one of the most op abilities for havoc anyways

raw token
#

why is havoc 30+ straight up impossible

celest valve
#

skill issue, probably

raw token
#

no doubt

dense wolf
#

its possible

plucky flax
dense wolf
marble crater
wraith sphinx
#

goodbye ๐Ÿซก

marble crater
#

Not that surprising after they hired Kitefin, still very sad

plucky flax
#

Move to a better paying job is always good

upper sun
#

(HD2)

plucky flax
#

Is he actually?

upper sun
#

i dunno

#

but prolly

marble crater
#

Spreading misinformation so casually

upper sun
#

fatshark and arrowhead are right next to eachother

plucky flax
#

Same building?

upper sun
#

she can prolly still have lunch at the same place

plucky flax
#

I know same city

upper sun
marble crater
#

Sweden is not that big, it's like 5 buildings

plucky flax
#

Less holiday leave tho

#

Hd2 got way more updates

upper sun
#

prolly less angry nerds

marble crater
#

HD2 for xbox when?

upper sun
#

i dont think windows would allow kernel level anticheat in their store

marble crater
#

Do we need kernel level anticheat for pve games?

glacial vapor
#

Valorant is on xbox lol

marble crater
glacial vapor
#

Wait, HD2 has a kernal level anti cheat? staregryn

nocturne dust
#

yes

#

from a sketchy company too with problems in the past

glacial vapor
nocturne dust
#

which is the sole reason why I have not purchased HD2 KEKW_ogryn

glacial vapor
#

I knew the anti cheat was a bit sus but I didn't realise it was kernal level

potent echo
#

any game that uses denuvo also has this so

nocturne dust
#

I don't play denuvo games chadgryn

upper sun
potent echo
#

that also have root privileges no?

upper sun
#

problem with denuvo is that it fucks your fps

nocturne dust
#

also, denuvo is kernel level but it isn't anticheat, it's DRM

potent echo
#

whats the difference if thats the same vulnerability KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
potent echo
#

it tells me it is

dense wolf
nocturne dust
upper sun
#

"Games protected by Denuvo require an online activation.[26] According to Empress, a notable Denuvo cracker, the software assigns a unique authentication token to each copy of a game, depending on factors like the user's hardware. The DRM is integrated with the game's code, which makes it especially hard to circumvent"

#

i dont think this is kernel level

#

it just copies identifiers

nocturne dust
#

There's multiple parts to Denuvo

upper sun
#

ok shrek

#

tell me

nocturne dust
#

I'm mistaken in one part, the Denuvo Antitamper is not kernel level, I was thinking of Denuvo's anticheat, which is

upper sun
#

they have anticheat too ๐Ÿ˜ญ

potent echo
nocturne dust
#

Doom Eternal ran the anticheat iirc

#

but regardless, kernel-level anticheats are horrific and I wouldn't put up with them for any PvE game

potent echo
#

basically you dont need to worry about kernel level, beacuse if they were going to steal yur data they will already have done it

nocturne dust
#

they also don't even work very often, especially nowadays where someone can use a ML model to simulate human expression while being very good at the game using a secondary computer and you'd have 0 ability to ever detect any cheating whatsoever

#

not that I would know anything about that

#

Definitely haven't had several ML projects where I made a model that played videogames

upper sun
#

i think training an ML to play video games now is still more time intensive and expensive than doing it yourself

nocturne dust
#

Depends on how many hours it takes for you to become an expert in a game

upper sun
#

i dont have a 30k GPU

nocturne dust
#

and even further, the purpose isn't for playing yourself or anything

upper sun
#

so i think its about the same

nocturne dust
#

the purpose of such cheats is to get paid by offering to boost accounts and then having a bot do it

upper sun
#

๐Ÿค”

nocturne dust
#

I could do it on my 4060

upper sun
#

๐Ÿค”

#

how long would it take you for say CS go?

#

minecraft a lot more complicated ive seen nvidia do it

wraith sphinx
#

helldivers 2 has way more chronic complainers than darktide

nocturne dust
upper sun
#

i dont think feeding it videos is as good as having it actually play

nocturne dust
#

That's reinforcement learning

#

which is different

upper sun
#

ye

nocturne dust
#

it's also a lot worse

upper sun
#

it takes longer

#

but arent outcomes better?

nocturne dust
#

Yep, many times slower

potent echo
nocturne dust
potent echo
#

all the toxic darktide haters have long since gone

nocturne dust
#

and generally, you have to iterate a bit on the model, so RL is many times slower since you have to tweak it repeatedly

#

you would need to be running hundreds of games simultaneously

#

and also

#

it would have 0 ability to act like a human at first

#

which means it would get banned

potent echo
#

the only videos i see ppl use ML to play are games that are 100% repeatable like trackmania

wraith sphinx
potent echo
#

what other game do they do it with

nocturne dust
#

That's the thing about it, the cheaters aren't going to be obvious since the ML model purposefully integrates human error to hide from bot/cheat detection

nocturne dust
potent echo
#

you mean like scripts that help you play but not replace you entirely?

nocturne dust
#

That's generally where the money is, after all

nocturne dust
#

so replace KEKW_ogryn

potent echo
#

mmm

#

doubt

nocturne dust
#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

upper sun
#

the problem is my uni is too broke for GPUs and so am I

nocturne dust
#

rip

wraith sphinx
#

rip

#

I'm currently in my final semester ๐Ÿซก

upper sun
#

2 more to go

wraith sphinx
#

I'm done with almost everything, just working on my thesis now

marble crater
#

@upper sun finished the story chadgryn

upper sun
#

secret ending?

marble crater
#

No, because it depends on a dialog choice from over 20 or 30 hours ago KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

i STRUGGLED

#

and i had a max level(cheated char)

#

the only fucking thing that let me do it was putting the explosive ammo mod on an LMG

marble crater
#

Cyberpunk ending spoilers ||I did the ending with Rogue and Johnny, and let him keep the body||

upper sun
#

||did all the endings if i had to pick one was running away with panam in my own body||

marble crater
#

Next time maybe KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
#

Me neither, as I played female V

upper sun
#

yeah same still ran away with her

#

me to the CDPR devs

marble crater
#

Literally Karien

upper sun
#

dwag whats this

dense wolf
fiery stratus
#

the very balanced and difficult to use Soulblaze

deft stump
deft stump
#

To be fair, too much het and yaoi, needs way more yuri.

brazen compass
fiery stratus
#

real time purg gameplay footage

floral olive
#

Hello siblings, I have yet another question :
For staves, is it better to fast spam half charged secondaries or slower fully charged ? DPS wise

#

for the electrokinetic staff for example, but for the others too

upper sun
#

charged attack has 3 states low medium and full damage generally its best to go for a full then a low one to kill off most non armored targets since they need max 2 attacks to die if not one tapped

floral olive
#

mmh thank you and against bosses ?

#

with fully stacked warp flurry maybe it's impossible to get the low one anyway xD

upper sun
#

i think full charges as well since theres no point in trying to stun bosses with low charges

#

you can stack flurry pretty well regardless of the level you're going for

#

just hold rmb then press lmb accordingly

brazen rampart
#

Voidstrike wants a headshot, otherwise don't use it. Don't use voidblast on bosses at all unless you're doing some sort of true aim setup and you're using it for blazing spirit. EK and inferno both call for full charges.

floral olive
#

so the point of low charged is to stun more, and full charge for dmg basically

upper sun
#

yeah but like some enemies need 1.2 attacks to die

brazen rampart
#

In 90% of cases, your melee will outperform your staff for boss damage.

upper sun
#

theres no point in holding the second attack to full damage

floral olive
upper sun
#

like lets say an enemy has 1200hp and your attack did 1000 you dont need to charge the second attack to 1000

upper sun
floral olive
#

THey're all insane lol

#

but sometimes you don't want to melee it for various reasons

dusty wagon
floral olive
#

because they change all the time with purple or orange

#

esp purple

upper sun
#

yup

floral olive
#

anyway thank you for your answers

plucky flax
#

Use burga and break point dont matter. Just keep flaming

deft stump
rigid sky
marble crater
#

Illisi my beloved

deft stump
plucky flax
#

Illisi still better than other force swords for chaff horde.

static sonnet
plucky flax
#

If you have a range weapon to deal with carapace

#

(For non havoc. In havoc I wouldn't use illisi at all)

marble crater
#

My favorite melee weapon for havoc is Voidblast

brazen compass
#

My favorite is you chadgryn

marble crater
#

I'm not a melee weapon staregryn

dusty wagon
#

Yeah, other melee weapons need a buff, attack speed and crowd control really make or break a weapon. แถœแต’แต˜แตสฐ แถœแต’แต˜แตสฐ แต€สฐแต˜โฟแตˆแต‰สณ แดดแตƒแตแตแต‰สณ

broken carbon
brazen compass
rigid sky
#

I just struggle to see any situation where I'd rather have Illisi than FGS or Heavy Sword, even for chaff clear

jovial juniper
#

Illisi enjoyers are not beating the stroker allegations

#

๐Ÿ’€

#

Also Hsword is a worse illisi

static sonnet
jovial juniper
rigid sky
#

H Sword doesn't need to be stroked

#

Illisi is closer to p sword

jovial juniper
#

Hsword can't kill carapace

rigid sky
#

It can! Eventually lmao

#

But if I have Illisi, I've got something else for Carapace anyway

jovial juniper
rigid sky
#

I liked Illisi when Mettle didn't suck

#

It worked well with Bloodthirsty then

forest wedge
#

hows this for a build

jovial juniper
forest wedge
#

not sure if kinetic presence should be kept

marble crater
wraith sphinx
#

mind in motion is useless, especially when going right side from smite

forest wedge
#

yea its not really something i need wanted to try it out not really noticing any differance

marble crater
#

I guess you want an EP smite build? I can send you one under one condition

wraith sphinx
#

crystalline will is also a huge waste with smite

forest wedge
marble crater
#

Okay KEKW_ogryn

#

(the condition was that you can't tell anyone I sent you a smite build)

forest wedge
#

mind you i cant blow up unless i time it perfectly right?

wraith sphinx
#

smite auto stops casting when you hit 100% peril you have to go out of your way to overload on it

#

and wrt staves you ought to be able to cast and quell as needed

forest wedge
#

i dont use staves period

#

i use force great sword and bolt pistol

wraith sphinx
#

ok so crystalline will is even more useless for you in that case

#

it doesn't do anything for you at all

patent steeple
forest wedge
#

i mean its saved my neck a few times

marble crater
forest wedge
#

i find assail boring

wraith sphinx
#

oh so you're just smykering then

#

:/

marble crater
#

Assail is boring, compared to smite?

forest wedge
wraith sphinx
forest wedge
#

i find shooting lightning more fun then shooting little darts at people more fun

jovial juniper
#

Smite can clear hordes better than assail though

forest wedge
#

but since this chat seems to be opinionated about whats best and is probably gonna fall into a meta talk im gonna bounce

jovial juniper
#

EP smite takes 2 seconds to kill x number of groaners

wraith sphinx
#

we're opinionated about what's terrible but suit yourself

forest wedge
forest wedge
#

i will

wraith sphinx
#

feel free to come back whenever you realize you're shooting yourself in the foot with this point distribution

marble crater
#

We are opinionated about smite, but the build is objectively not great, on the off chance that we play together please use something more like this

brazen compass
#

The unsanctioned psyker knows best

#

He's the cover art guy after all

marble crater
#

You pick smite and are pathing to the left and right but pick Mind in Motion instead of Psykentic's Aura, which is arguably our strongest talent

patent steeple
#

ok, I just looked at the point distribution you guys were talking about, and my first reaction was simply, "WHAT?!"

like, no Soulstealer for extra toughness gen while smykering? no Malefic Momentum for even more damage in situations where smykering won't do the trick?! GAZE ONLY BECAUSE WARP UNBOUND EXISTS?!

marble crater
#

Also Battle Meditation instead of Perilous Combustion, another strong talent

static sonnet
deft stump
upper sun
marble crater
marble crater
upper sun
#

idk

#

never played it

#

or kept up with it tbh

marble crater
#

The devs promised a 6 hour sex scene with the twins

upper sun
#

THEY DID?!

marble crater
#

Where is it?

wraith sphinx
#

nobody I talked to that played the game had anything particularly positive to say about it

upper sun
#

WHAT

#

WHERE

wraith sphinx
#

the consensus is that it's just a mid tier goonerbait game

jovial juniper
marble crater
#

I liked the game, except for the open world part, that shit was annoying

jovial juniper
#

It has a sick ass soundtrack

glacial vapor
#

I thought it was enjoyable. Mixed feelings on the ending though

jovial juniper
#

Argent metal, my beloved

forest wedge
glacial vapor
marble crater
#

Great music and great set pieces

wraith sphinx
marble crater
jovial juniper
#

Can't even deny the gooberbait

#

Freaky ahh fridge

forest wedge
forest wedge
#

im not budging on the sword talents

jovial juniper
#

Hmmm
I should interact with the fridge while my family is on the living room

wraith sphinx
#

why do you have the souldrinker talent if you're not using perilous combustion nor purgatus staff?

glacial vapor
marble crater
dusty wagon
#

@wraith sphinx @upper sun
They didn't make a 6 hour scene.

The internet however...

upper sun
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

forest wedge
#

thanks for catching it

#

should i take warp speed and endurance?

wraith sphinx
#

reality anchor is pretty redundant because if you're using melee while gazing you're gonna quell peril with by crack of bone

jovial juniper
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

static sonnet
glacial vapor
forest wedge
marble crater
wraith sphinx
dusty wagon
deft stump
forest wedge
jovial juniper
#

RA is so dogshit, I don't even know why it exists

forest wedge
#

cus i play with randoms

#

i have to do it this way

#

ive tried tagging the enemy and sometimes they just run off to kill other stuff

#

i dont use it on monstrosities tho i just pull out the great sword pop gaze and start heavy attack spam dodge and blocking

brazen compass
#

Tagging an enemy is for you to keep track of, not for your team to kill chadgryn

forest wedge
#

damn you right

marble crater
brazen compass
#

If you've ever played Battlefield, especially the older ones like BC2, you know the kills don't matter when you get the points chadgryn

vernal temple
#

asking for a fellow sibling since it's been some time since I've done this penance.

do kills via Kinetic Flayer count towards this if at max charges?

forest wedge
#

i dont really need warpspeed for that speed boost do i

jovial juniper
#

Nope

#

Entirely optional

#

So optional that I genuinely think there's no reason to use it

#

Other than fun

forest wedge
#

yea just tried it and i didnt really notice an increase

#

what to do with this extra point :/

static sonnet
#

Toughness

forest wedge
#

found a node uptop that gives+15 so yea ill put it in that

patent steeple
#

btw, should I swap out either Unyielding or Flak for extra crit chance on mk12 Recon for FGS meleeker? I feel like more crits is better (I think I am too used to Cavalcade/Inspiring Shredder on meleeker, actually...), but I'm not sure if swapping out Unyielding is gonna hurt my dps in the long term...?

dense wolf
#

if i remember for that power up one

#

just ran with a brain burst build i saw in the pins here and just played the game

#

wasnt paying attention to that penance but i did see progress so youll get it done without paying too much attention

rigid sky
patent steeple
plucky flax
rigid sky
#

Chaos Spawn is pretty relentless with its slappy attacks

#

It's hard for anybody to hit ripostes on it tbh

patent steeple
plucky flax
#

Hmm it's so accurate tho

patent steeple
plucky flax
#

Even hips fire is very accurate up to medium distance

placid sorrel
#

what happens if seer finds out everything is actually real and they killed a lot of people

marble crater
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They will laugh and say something like about their beloved

placid sorrel
dense wolf
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w

deft stump
plucky flax
marble crater
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New Arbites gameplay just dropped chadgryn

plucky flax
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Looks like malice.

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And it took the guy 7 mins to use his ability.

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His was a charge.

dense wolf
summer prairie
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the weapons don't look very exciting

plucky flax
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First time I see 100% players have any achivement.

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The power of gooner blade

summer prairie
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foot knight with a dog so far

spice oar
plucky flax
summer prairie
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those electrical stun grenades or whatever seem to stun enemies for a long time

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while also doing some damage i guess since they are dead by the end

jovial juniper
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Oh that's

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That's just zealot stun grenade

summer prairie
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is it