psyker-class

[analog kraken]

feels like the complete opposite of how i be playing so slow and dumb lmfao

[verbal thistle]

The more you learn the faster you will go

I understand where bosses spawn

Where enemies spawn

[prime elk]

And you can slide while doing to heavy for extra speeeed

[verbal thistle]

And what I can handle

So I only move fast when it's fine to do so

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-rock-gif-23559354

[upper sun]

youll get to a point where you can predict from where disablers will spawn as soon as you hear the sound

at this point ||youll need a shower||

[analog kraken]

i see, that's pretty crazy

your video's pretty cool

[verbal thistle]

And you'll probably see

[analog kraken]

now i wanna try assail lmao

[verbal thistle]

If you get into melee range with ranged enemies most of them go to melee

Makes them less of a threat

[analog kraken]

and now i feel like im dumb asf playing 💀

[verbal thistle]

Like tiny shooters and shotgunners

[analog kraken]

yep i noticed that

[autumn lark]

que that clip of someone dying due to a flamer kick

[verbal thistle]

Me

[analog kraken]

W

[autumn lark]

uninstall the game

[verbal thistle]

When I was trying solo silo cluster

[analog kraken]

literally me

[autumn lark]

its genuinely over

[verbal thistle]

2 silent flamers

[analog kraken]

i be doing that too fr

[autumn lark]

dont underestimate specialist/elite kicks

they do alot of damage

[jovial juniper]

Dying to a flamer kick is okay

Now

To a sniper kick

Or a Reaper bash

[upper sun]

me

[analog kraken]

no pistols in the shop

crazy

[analog kraken]

i don't i'm just dumb af 🔥

[upper sun]

also zero cooldown

[jovial juniper]

You can always buy a grey from the arsenal

[autumn lark]

use brunts shop

[analog kraken]

ah, lemme do that then

https://imgur.com/CueGPtr this guy right

[verbal thistle]

Can't send pics until you are red name

[analog kraken]

yeah i imagined lmao

that's why i use imgur

[marble crater]

I already took a shower last week

[static sonnet]

No, Brunt's Armory, under the other shop menu. Can buy a gray gun with random stats

[analog kraken]

ah shit, good thing i didn't buy it thanks man

[static sonnet]

That shop is Melk

[analog kraken]

yeah i got it now lmao

https://imgur.com/riQrGFN got this

[plucky flax]

Rare havoc moment won 3 games in a row.

[static sonnet]

The stats the gun can have are capped based on your current level. The price will go up as you level, but sp will the stats. I wouldn't invest a ton of crafting resources in your first one or two unless you have a perfect stat line and will keep it forever

[analog kraken]

ooh noted

[upper sun]

too soon stay outta my havoc

[analog kraken]

this one is prob kinda ass so ig i won't bother

wait no i got the wrong pistol lmao

[marble crater]

I played tox gas mission a few days ago, it's fine

[analog kraken]

now i got the right one

[marble crater]

Also, ventilation purge missions in the event are actually lights out missions

[static sonnet]

The Heavy Las Pistol is the one I recommended, but they're all good, just have different play styles. The Las Pistol is good for anything but armor

[plucky flax]

Put blaze away blessing on it.

[analog kraken]

why heavy over normal? better for armored enemies?

[analog kraken]

let me do that

[blissful solar]

me waiting for the chat to die for 2 hours so I can post a new dead chat gif:

[plucky flax]

Post it anyway let me goon.

[static sonnet]

They all fall under the category "heavy Las Pistol" now. There is only one Las pistol and you can switch between the two marks at will once you have the mastery for it. I much prefer the faster firing mark because you can shoot at smaller things without worrying about overkill, you have more opportunities to crit, and its slightly better on ammo economy

I think all Las weapons are dog shit against carapace, but they can take flak just fine. Just use your melee on carapace.

[analog kraken]

ooh noted noted, got that

i'll be trying it out in a bit when i play again

[jovial juniper]

Reverse Spawn camping

[blissful solar]

if i dont goon to it neither should you

[plucky flax]

Noooo let me goooooon

[marble crater]

Please don't pretend like you wait 2 hours, you do it after a few minutes sometimes

[blissful solar]

[wraith sphinx]

exposed

[plucky flax]

Ngl I watch physical 100 to goon to hot people.

And the English dub is amazingly funny.

[wooden sand]

What

[plucky flax]

Korean reality show on netflix.

About very fit people.

[wooden sand]

Just use rule34 at this point

[plucky flax]

No but I can watch a mindless tv shows at the same time.

Workout motivation I guess.

[plucky flax]

Why?

[blissful solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/544034067855966230/1377510164432687185/oeH4gAY.gif you asked for it (and 8 minutes passed and a new hour has begun, that's enough right?)

[wooden sand]

Where the hell you keep getting theses K-pop dead chat gifs

[blissful solar]

ive made two of them myself and they're chinese

basically from bilibili videos

[minor trout]

Watching korean things with dub?

Bruh

I don't get how people have real people in their pfps it seems really embarrassing

[blissful solar]

i dont see how it's much different from having an anime waifu as a pfp

[prime elk]

Yeah like this guy

[wooden sand]

What about me?

Or you?

I don't know you didn't worded it well

[prime elk]

Having an anime waifu pfp

[blissful solar]

true

[rigid sky]

Helbores can deal with carapace really well, and recon lasguns are bad against it but can do silly things with Onslaught veteran talent.

[static sonnet]

Ah I forget about helbore, im only like level 50 on vet, I've never used it

[rigid sky]

honestly I hate them in practice lmao

[static sonnet]

I've always thought i would too, that's why I never used it lol. Having to think about my weapon charge is adding more than necessary for me lol

[rigid sky]

That slow swap speed is torture

[rigid sky]

you're literally in psyker chat

all of our staves do that lmao

[static sonnet]

Yeah but there is less penalty to not having a 100% charge i would think

[rigid sky]

You feel it more with the helbores tbf

[static sonnet]

And I can't stand iron sights

[rigid sky]

I love awful clunky ironsights

I want to be shooting at that one single pixel that pokes up above my gun

[marble crater]

It's not much different expect that people not familiar could think the real waifu is you

[blissful solar]

that's why i have "male" on my profile

[marble crater]

Femboy

[upper sun]

🚬 bros.....

yard my beloved is still giga broken

[blissful solar]

yard really do be the best map

[wraith sphinx]

What's wromg with the yard

[upper sun]

i swear everytime they rework it they brick more audio

[upper sun]

theres like 3+ rooms/hallways that dont have functioning audio

[wraith sphinx]

Wtf I never encountered that

[upper sun]

https://streamable.com/ktt413

had this happen again after the rework

[wraith sphinx]

☠️

[upper sun]

i was so pissed i knowingly went down to call it out smh

[prime elk]

Precision weapon. Dogshit irons

[sinful peak]

Where should I put the last point? Torn between PC, +15 tough and warp speed

[marble crater]

PC of course

[prime elk]

You’re no gunker unless you take warp speed

[rigid sky]

It's really worth the extra point imo. I was dubious about it at first

[marble crater]

Drop the last point in DD, take both

[rigid sky]

It's even better on voidstrike

[prime elk]

Also not taking warp unbound is a choice…

[rigid sky]

Yeah, drop that last DD point for sure

[rigid sky]

imo unnecessary for gunker

[prime elk]

Drop KD or TTS

[rigid sky]

It's great, but you can drop it

[prime elk]

No. It’s necessary

[rigid sky]

I'd rather have Perilous Combustion

[prime elk]

You MUST take warp speed

[rigid sky]

No, warp speed is great I agree

I meant the other one

[prime elk]

Staffker moment smh

[rigid sky]

the deeper point

forget what it's called, the anti-headpop talent

I find I don't really need it on gunker if I'm disciplined with my assails and my fgs charge

and perilous combustion is great on gunker too

it doesn't care what kind of psyker you are imo

[prime elk]

PC is strong yeah

After it got buffed I think it’s a good option for gunker too

[minor trout]

My internet is too ass rn to load that

[blissful solar]

11.4 megabytes is too much

[minor trout]

Nah

[minor trout]

I am connected to a dogshit VPN

[plucky flax]

Ye i watch squid game with dub it's based

[rigid sky]

They actually did great with the dub on that one

The 8 Show too

[wraith sphinx]

It goes hard with assail

[prime elk]

It’s decent, comes out to 7 percent more damage or so on auric/AN

[wraith sphinx]

I run pc on my gunker and I usually utilize it to soften up or dispatch groups of ragers, depending on circumstances I can usually gun most of them down and the rest burn up before they reach me

[marble crater]

PC stands for Pretty Cool and that's why I use it

[wraith sphinx]

Everything that lets me conserve ammo is premium

[rigid sky]

It's just so good against the classic Rager/Shotgunner/Gunner clown car

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah precisely

[rigid sky]

you only have to kill a couple of them then the rest of them all drop dead

[wraith sphinx]

Or any other specialist group on shocktroop gauntlets

[rigid sky]

because there's never a trapper

[prime elk]

I prefer decapitating them

[rigid sky]

they travel in 2s until you start to expect it, and then they level up to trios

[prime elk]

The thing with PC is that it often procs on shit you’re about to immediately kill

[minor trout]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-played-these-games-before-seong-gi-hun-squid-game-i've-played-these-games-already-netflix-gif-16480153790313233198

[plucky flax]

Bro lied he only played 1 game before.

[marble crater]

Spoilers

[plucky flax]

I did not say what game.

(if you watch the trailer you would know)

[marble crater]

Is the game Darktide?

[plucky flax]

Ye apparently he goes by Unsanctioned in game.

[marble crater]

If Karien hears about this, she will lose her mind

[plucky flax]

[solemn atlas]

Thoughts?

Looking at the warp res

[lavish glade]

im thinking

[marble crater]

Thought: if you max the staff out, perfect. If you want to keep warp res as low as possible, you will have a bad time

[solemn atlas]

Conveniently looking for a bad time

[silver mantle]

Keep it as a flex piece

[marble crater]

Flex by blowing up in two full casts?

[knotty granite]

What does the electrokinetic staff do?

[analog agate]

It is a “single target” staff. It does good dmg to first target. You get 2 more branches of the lightning that do significantly decreased dmg but has stun when you fire it

[narrow herald]

Yes

[timid grove]

hi

[knotty granite]

So like a weaker Smite?

[timid grove]

they're not the same thing

smite is for crowd control

it's just a different flavor of lightning

[jovial juniper]

Yesnt

[narrow herald]

Smite is also for damage, but Thunder staff is mostly a low investment single target weapon

[knotty granite]

alr, I will probably buy it since I only have it and Voidblast unlocked, and I need a weapon for big enemies

I use Assail, so no good range for big guys, and I'm a little too weak to melee mini-bosses

[marble crater]

Elektro staff does being the most aggressive one

[narrow herald]

I don't understand the build, don't you have something to deal with crushers on melee?

[timid grove]

take an uncanny rending weapon

problem solved

[jovial juniper]

Since you're going assail

DD electric staff

[narrow herald]

😈

[young cliff]

I imagine that DD staff is good, but never tried

[jovial juniper]

Well it's not optimal

But isn't bad

[narrow herald]

DDeeznyts

[young cliff]

Staffs don't make much use of the finesse?

[knotty granite]

I have an Axe, but I seem to struggle with bosses, I've only been effective with spamming assail, then staff, while assail recharges

[narrow herald]

Voidstrike does

[jovial juniper]

Blast, Inferno and EK can't target weakspots with their big attacks

[marble crater]

Struggling with bosses is just part of being psyker, to be fair

[jovial juniper]

But a 15% Dmg, 30% crit damage goes hard on the EK

[narrow herald]

Fatshark give me a laser pointer staff and my life is yours

[jovial juniper]

Because EK has the CRIT stat

[knotty granite]

Also, does +10% Damage to Carapace Armored Enemies and +10% Damage to Unarmored Enemies just give me +10% against everything?

[marble crater]

It's called reconlas

[narrow herald]

Nope

[knotty granite]

sad

[strange wyvern]

You'd think that's where brain burst would save the day

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[narrow herald]

Carapace means the heads of Maulers and Crushers

That's it

[jovial juniper]

What do you understand by Unarmored and Carapace?

[marble crater]

Brain Burst is one of our better options for bosses and it's still not great

[knotty granite]

Unarmored is squishy, big rusher guys that smash + normal zombies
Carapace are the people with metal armor

[narrow herald]

I think Inferno is decent into bosses because of the dots

[strange wyvern]

Me watching my dps flatline as soon as I use all 3 EP charges and KR wears off

[marble crater]

Chest of Scab Ragers too

[analog agate]

Gunker is the build to “nuke” bosses. So, psyker does have an entire build that can do it

[knotty granite]

Does lightning do extra damage to enemies wearing metal armor? Because conductivity

[narrow herald]

Time to read up: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[marble crater]

[young cliff]

And here I was running gunker as a better Specialist hunter than the veteran

[knotty granite]

😭

[young cliff]

Why orcka bestowed upon thy the punishment of reading?

[analog agate]

I do better as EK psyker than majority of vets as specialist killer

Vet just needs some help

[narrow herald]

Because this is Darktide

Lots of words, no meaning

[young cliff]

No pictures = me no read

[narrow herald]

Average g*mer reaction 😔

[knotty granite]

What I learned from this, is that carapace armor buff is useless to me currently, since I don't fight any of those guys

[strange wyvern]

#ogryn-class this place may be able to help you

[narrow herald]

Carapace is actually one of the most common modifiers Psykers use for melee weapons

And it's because of one weapon

[young cliff]

Nah, they have instructed me in the ways of ogryn: book is for eating

[knotty granite]

But it's on my staff, which I'll be using on the mini-bosses

[narrow herald]

Depends on the staff

For electro I use elite/unyielding

[analog agate]

Flak. Wtf bro

[strange wyvern]

imagine ogryns with dueling sword

giant slab with a toothpick

[narrow herald]

Nah I don't care about flak, I want to do max boss damage 😈

[hardy owl]

https://tenor.com/view/so-true-gif-24068595

[young cliff]

Grabbing it with a raised pinky and the fury of the Emphrur

[narrow herald]

I don't think maniac is that useful either because it doesn't give u any breakpoints anyways and u stun ragers

[knotty granite]

I'm gonna do Flak and Unarmored since most of my annoying enemies are there

[marble crater]

Unarmored is almost never a good perk to use

[narrow herald]

Unarmored?

The only unarmored enemy you will attack with the staff is gunners

[analog agate]

What difficulty are you playing at? The usual thing is flak/unyielding

[narrow herald]

Unarmored is a horde clearing blessing

[analog agate]

But lower than damn it doesn’t matter

[narrow herald]

Hell, infested makes more sense because you one shot bursters 💀

[marble crater]

Pushing them into your team also one shots them though

[narrow herald]

Truuuu

[knotty granite]

Unyielding would only help me with the plague ogryn, which I rarely see, I've only fought like 3

[narrow herald]

Unyielding is all Ogryns

Except Crusher

And all bosses

Well not captains

[knotty granite]

The second one normally, I'm gonna bump it up to 3 when I hit lvl 15

[plucky flax]

Flak maniac surge staff gud

[narrow herald]

Shut up let me make the big boys giggle

[analog agate]

I have never found maniac make any difference on ek

[plucky flax]

Okay sure.

[narrow herald]

Watching Bullwalks open up their shields 😏

[plucky flax]

I use it in havoc too cos specials are so tanky.

25% is good boost.

[hardy owl]

[young cliff]

If Estaff is the single target option, what should be paired with melee? Illisid FS?

[analog agate]

Fgs or illisi

Are the usual

[knotty granite]

So that or infested? For diff 2-3

I already have flak on it

[narrow herald]

Using electro staff in havocs

[plucky flax]

Only really pro ppl can do it

[narrow herald]

Oh shit ur a professional?

I didn't even know Darktide had a pro scene

[plucky flax]

Pro at not being sanctioned.

[young cliff]

Fgs feels kinda dangerous because slow and team never cares for my well being

[nocturne dust]

I prefer flak/unyielding

1 hit on specials vs 3 hits on big bois

I want them reapers gone

[analog agate]

Nah, I use fgs and I am still front lining with EK

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: you have a good connection

[narrow herald]

Aren't reapers considered elite? 🤔

[nocturne dust]

yes

unyielding is an armor type

[narrow herald]

Elite/unyielding it is 😈

[nocturne dust]

wat

no

y would you

[narrow herald]

Yes

Because I want reapers gone

[nocturne dust]

it doesn't do anything for you tho 😭

[young cliff]

I'm to considerate for my team to not erase the 9 trappers, tox/bombers that are flanking us

[narrow herald]

Simple as

[nocturne dust]

+elite won't change your BPs

[narrow herald]

Doesn't matter, more damage more problems

[nocturne dust]

you'll still kill reapers in 3

[nocturne dust]

well, your more problems will be the horde of flak running at you

[plucky flax]

I've cleared havoc both as solo psyker or as 2nd psyker with surge.

It's really good but you need to stay on your toes.

Cos no bubble

[nocturne dust]

I don't think I'll ever have the stability to not run bubble in Havoc

[narrow herald]

Be honest, did you use assail off cool down?

[nocturne dust]

Assail has a cooldown?

[plucky flax]

Assail wit hsurge?

It's kf bb bruh

[nocturne dust]

I've done it

[narrow herald]

Always has, it's the 1 ammo 😈

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's Surge

[narrow herald]

All wave clear is on the sword?

[nocturne dust]

I've also been doing vent surge with charged strike dclaw and can I just say

[plucky flax]

Nope on creeping flames.

[narrow herald]

Flame illusi new meta??????

[nocturne dust]

dclaw is arse

[narrow herald]

In havoc nothing dies anyways 😈

[plucky flax]

Knife for mobility and creeping flames for spread damage.

With the PC change it's really good.

[nocturne dust]

won't die from flame sword, you are correct

[narrow herald]

Hang on, y'all inspired me to go a batshit crazy build

One sec 🏃🏻‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

PC buff so broken

Might not even need vent

[plucky flax]

Absolutely need it with surge

[strong gulch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dba7173-f64c-4b4f-9213-94268e99e856/no-keystone-fire-sword-now-with-crit-chance-its-bad-but-play-it-anyways

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but imagine running surge when you could run Inferno

[plucky flax]

For specials sniping.

[nocturne dust]

I snipe specials with PC

unironically tho, the amount of times I'll hear a special death from a special I never even saw is insane with the PC change

[plucky flax]

You dont even play havoc tho

[nocturne dust]

Yes I do

Well, I've been playing the event

but as soon as I'm done with that

[plucky flax]

How often?

[nocturne dust]

Mmmm bout once a week

[plucky flax]

What's your rank?

[young cliff]

Genuinely like the event, helping others do it has been a blast, I love fighting that density of enemies and bosses

[nocturne dust]

Dun't remember, probably still around 30

[plucky flax]

[marsh badger]

I like playing discount vet with surge staff in havoc

[nocturne dust]

Hard enough finding matches that will accept a 30 😭

I should grind to 40

[strong gulch]

I still need to regrind to 40.

[nocturne dust]

Hardest part is matchmaking

[plucky flax]

I always kill more specials than the plasma vet with surge.

[brazen compass]

You mean Vet but actually doing their fucking job

[nocturne dust]

I dun't wanna sit around for party finder

[narrow herald]

Behold my creation!

[marsh badger]

that's why it's temu vet

[brazen compass]

I'm saying regular Vet might as well be Temu Vet lmao

[marsh badger]

but lightning

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-meme-cook-gif-1177116184918006692

[prime elk]

Wished they made the event in the rotation in AM

[prime elk]

You will use party finder and you will enjoy it. Why do you think FS added a new game mode?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-crazy-family-guy-insomnia-straitjacket-gif-11617438

I love being judged by a bunch of random strangers and my entire experience even happening depending on it

[plucky flax]

Host your own game so you can play your own meme.

[timid grove]

is there like a standard curio setup to run

[weary crane]

I love how close BB breakpoints are in havoc

[timid grove]

something i dont have to switch between constantly

[weary crane]

Depends on build and weapons

[timid grove]

i feel so squishy

[weary crane]

That's psyker

[nocturne dust]

I need assists 😭

[plucky flax]

tru

[nocturne dust]

Hosted too much

[hardy owl]

[knotty granite]

I saw someone do a flamethrower esk attack that shot blue warp energy/flame out of their hand, how do I do that?

[verbal thistle]

flame staff

[hardy owl]

yeah its the special attack for the flamw staff

[knotty granite]

hmm, pretty cool, but the electrokinetic is doing pretty well

better than the voidblast at least

[zinc comet]

Is psyker supposed to feel this slow

[verbal thistle]

nope

psyker actaully gets the most speed buffs then any other class

are you sliding?

[zinc comet]

Yeah lots of slides

[verbal thistle]

sliding can remove the movement penalty from charging staff

[analog agate]

Use laspistol with right side build and you zoom zoom

[zinc comet]

Are they in talent nodes

The speed buffs

[verbal thistle]

talent tree yes

in a duo rn

but I can show after

[zinc comet]

Nah it’s fine

I’ll read up later

[autumn lark]

Scrier and disrupt destiny

[verbal thistle]

mettle

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[autumn lark]

Oh yeah mettle too

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is slow

[autumn lark]

One of psyker's best talents

[nocturne dust]

They have speed buffs, but most expire quickly and the one that doesn't is tied to Scrier's

On staffker, you will be very slow. Gunker can more easily employ ranged shenanigans to keep mettle up, but even then that process will slow you down.

[tepid prairie]

any tips for warp battery penance?

[nocturne dust]

Play the game on a high difficulty and don't use your ability

[marble crater]

Shock troop modifier also helps

[tepid prairie]

alr thanks

is the penance easier than it seems or no

[nocturne dust]

While true, rarely are they all active at the same time, staffker doesn't even want 2 of them most of the time, and staves charge too slowly to keep mettle up

[marble crater]

The penance is not difficult, just annoying

[knotty granite]

Is the Blaze Force Sword or the Combat Axe better to run with Electrokinetic Staff and Assail?

[nocturne dust]

it should be easy, yes

Most psyker penances I got without paying attention

The only ones I actively sought out were Malleus Monstrum and Cliffhanger

[nocturne dust]

Caxe

[tepid prairie]

bro Cliffhanger was so annoying

[knotty granite]

k

[nocturne dust]

Force Sword is good but Caxe has superior horde clear

You could use Obscurus or Deimos if you want to rely on Assail for horde

[jovial juniper]

If you want to spam Special heavy then Illisi
If you want to spam lights, Combat Axe

[nocturne dust]

but then I'd recommend slaughterer on the force sword

[knotty granite]

what are those first two things?

[nocturne dust]

Force Sword mks

Illisi is another

but it is not that great

Illisi is technically the horde clear mk, but it doesn't do that all that well

[knotty granite]

K, I'll just stick with the axe for now, sounds simpler while I'm still new

[nocturne dust]

yep

[jovial juniper]

Lack of stroking your illisi

[nocturne dust]

I stroke

I stroke more than anybody here, that's for sure

I stroke all day

I stroke all night

My sword never goes unstroked

In fact, I received disciplinary action for stroking my sword on the Morningstar

[marble crater]

[jovial juniper]

Now that we got this strokement out of the way

[nocturne dust]

...we can finally start with backstroke

[wraith sphinx]

Beneficient Emperor, bestow a stroke upon this fool 🙏

[nocturne dust]

Beloved bestows many strokes all the time

[knotty granite]

Is the Voidstrike better for this, since it does more damage?

[nocturne dust]

no

[knotty granite]

Another crowd control?

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is a jack

Tho actually, Inferno is best boss DPS

But Voidstrike is a general weapon. It clears hordes if you can kite them, it deals boss damage if you can hit weakspots.

[blissful solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1377714590640636016/jPoF7pD.gif

[nocturne dust]

It's not great at anything, but not terrible at anything either.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/pretzel-day-rizzo-gif-25521446

[knotty granite]

So Blast is crowds, Electro is bosses, Strike is middle of the road

[nocturne dust]

Electro is specialists/elites

EK can work on bosses but needs +unyielding for it

and really, Blast is everything but bosses

[knotty granite]

Okay, and inferno is best for bosses? according to message above

[nocturne dust]

Inferno is best for boss damage, yes

[knotty granite]

So I should probably just stick to EK for now right? until I get Inferno, since I'm looking for boss killing potential

[nocturne dust]

You stack soulblaze on the target and then either go for Uncanny shenanigans in melee (higher dps) or maintain blaze away (safer, lower dps)

[nocturne dust]

Up to you. If you're not fully levelled, staves in general will be wonky outside of Inferno and Voidstrike

Staves rely a lot on being fully built

[knotty granite]

Crit hits are just random, and softspots are knowing the target and aiming in certain areas, right? So crit is a dangerous game until I get it leveled up

[nocturne dust]

No?

You never truly rely on crits

Unless you're using recon/vraks gunker

[timid grove]

inferno for bosses??

[nocturne dust]

yes

[timid grove]

thought it was just a horde melter

interesting

[knotty granite]

Is it worth leveling though? Since it won't always apply?

[nocturne dust]

no

[nocturne dust]

wdym

is what worth levelling

Are you talking about blessings? You'll unlock them all at the end anyway

And warp nexus tends to be the second best blessing on every staff

[knotty granite]

I can choose to get buffs for crits on weapons

[nocturne dust]

You could, yes

[wooden sand]

I think he is talking about leveling up weapons to get more damage when he could just crit

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you probably shouldn't level weapons and just use what you're given at the start

and save your resources for later when you find weapons with perfect max stats

[knotty granite]

ah, bit late for me now

[nocturne dust]

rip

Oh well, you can always get more resources

[knotty granite]

I was more wondering if it's worth getting perks like the one that does:
Replenish 5% toughness of crit hits

[timid grove]

5% for a crit is so measly

[verbal thistle]

guh?

[nocturne dust]

mettle is good, yes

[timid grove]

unless u have like 90% crit chance somehow

[verbal thistle]

thats entire psyker kit

[prime elk]

It’s very good on gunker

[nocturne dust]

It is on staves

[verbal thistle]

they stack crit

[timid grove]

gunker is the one thing i dont play

oh well

[prime elk]

Pathetic

[knotty granite]

?

[nocturne dust]

Pathetic that you play gunker, yes

[timid grove]

using guns on the mage class

i mean it's cool that u have the option to i just don't fw it

[nocturne dust]

It's kinda boring actually

[timid grove]

lol

[nocturne dust]

Scriers is just +damage

[timid grove]

dismantled your own argument

[nocturne dust]

give me a real ability

[timid grove]

[nocturne dust]

wasn't mine

[jovial juniper]

Magic Gun

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[timid grove]

magic bullets would be cool

or magic coated bullets

[nocturne dust]

Yeah that'd be cool. Shame gunker doesn't have that.

[knotty granite]

Do electric attacks get a bunch of crits since they do tic damage or something?

[nocturne dust]

Smite does not crit

[verbal thistle]

99% of psyker builds want crit

[nocturne dust]

EK does crit

[nocturne dust]

Staves outside of Voidstrike want crit solely for perfect timing

Mettle is just on the way

[verbal thistle]

EK wants crit

purg wants crit

[nocturne dust]

for perfect timing, yes

[verbal thistle]

blast wants crit

[nocturne dust]

Okay, fire trauma I forgot about

[verbal thistle]

its okay to be wrong

[nocturne dust]

But purg and ek only take crit for perfect timing

and rending trauma doesn't even take crit

[upper sun]

tfw no 1-2 maelstrom

[timid grove]

if im the type of person who likes melee, is psyker hopeless for me?

im dying in every damnation

[nocturne dust]

So yes, Psyker is the critter, but like, kinda a false critter a lot

[upper sun]

ur a critter

[nocturne dust]

No, but it is harder

[prime elk]

Psyker melee is pretty strong

[analog kraken]

pretty sure psyker does melee a lot tho

[timid grove]

im sooooooooo squishy tho

[prime elk]

You just have to get used to it

[nocturne dust]

Meleeker is real

[timid grove]

im prone to making mistakes and i get punished hard for it

[analog kraken]

ye you just gotta get used to it

[verbal thistle]

you get less training wheels but do the most melee damage

[prime elk]

Run gaze, go faster and have better situational awareness

[nocturne dust]

Dodge or die

[analog kraken]

you and me bro

[tired estuary]

If you're dying a lot in melee it isn't a class issue

[analog kraken]

i get cooked so hard lmao

[timid grove]

[analog kraken]

but it's because i suck ik

[nocturne dust]

Untrue

Ogryn.

[timid grove]

i almost never die as ogryn

too easy

psyker different story..

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn does tons of melee damage too now

[tired estuary]

Ogryn is broken

[jovial juniper]

400% melee damage

[analog kraken]

psyker kinda hard to get used to i like it

[nocturne dust]

Cycle of balance

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[timid grove]

honestly im only playing psyker atm to get class penances done

then i move on to veteran

[nocturne dust]

This class is on top and then this one and then that one and on and on it goes

[timid grove]

then by that point i play arbite cuz he'll probably be out by then

[wintry falcon]

take the heavy psycher sword and use the perks to gain some toughness when you hit 3 ennemy on your equiped weapon

[nocturne dust]

uuuhhhh

[timid grove]

still need to get one of those but im dirt poor

[nocturne dust]

I mean you can

but it's not great to rely on that

[timid grove]

non-meta blessings? in my horde shooter?..

[nocturne dust]

especially because it's rarely the horde that is the problem

[timid grove]

i did take that one talent node that gives me less peril but less toughness gain

maybe that's hurting me

[nocturne dust]

ER is good on staffker

bad on gunker/meleeker

[wintry falcon]

yeee xD toughness is how you survive in melee

[nocturne dust]

It's also that staffker has more regen than the other 2 by a lot

Gunker/Meleeker you regen by swapping to assail and relying on soulstealer or swapping to gun and relying on mettle

Staffker regens from soulstealer all day whereas gunker/meleeker actually has to make a decision

[timid grove]

i dont like assail

hell i probably dont even like psyker

[prime elk]

Assail is fun

It’s satisfying watching it decimate a horde

[timid grove]

i thought it was single target

or is that only if u do the secondary

[nocturne dust]

no

[nocturne dust]

kinda

You do want warp splitting on assail

and once you have that, assail is a general tool for anything without carapace that isn't a boss

[prime elk]

Yeah it might be a bit overturned right now

[analog kraken]

yo wtf that shit was good thanks

[timid grove]

holding LMB

[knotty granite]

Is this even possible? Best I've seen is 80% on all but one stat, which was 60%

[nocturne dust]

That would be best, yes

you get a weapon with 60 as a dump stat in the right stat

and bam, perfect weapon

[knotty granite]

The 60 was in Charge Rate, on a VoidStrike

Seems like a bad dump stat

I would assume Quell Speed and Warp Resistance are the best dump stats on a stave

[nocturne dust]

See pins for dump stats

but Voidstrike is blast radius

[timid grove]

even if u use flame staff and build it for monstro, i assume it's way worth to take the soulblaze talents on tree?

if so, that sounds kinda fun

[nocturne dust]

Yes

see pins for inferno build

[timid grove]

might just take a look at that

ok at least this time i know i did what i could (we failed, i'm 145)

[knotty granite]

Is the Force Greatsword better than Caxe? It says it's for CC, which I think should go well with an EK

The one I'm looking at has 3 80% stats with 78% First Target and 62% WR

[analog agate]

I don’t care for the caxe on psyker. I use the fgs with EK

[knotty granite]

I'm gonna try it, might as well since it has great stats

[timid grove]

caxe is kinda fun but i detest light spam for horde clearing

at least it's not super fast tho

[vernal temple]

the way the handle on the left door is incorrectly placed during loading cutscenes is mildly infuriating

and I can't unsee it

[strong gulch]

Imagine someone just switches the door around to feck with us.

[vernal temple]

Tzeentch

[strong gulch]

Same person going around and un-aligning elevator tiles.

[marble crater]

Same person always leaving the elevators on the wrong floor, making us wait for it

[timid grove]

damn this greatsword is fuckin weird

hate the sprinting animation, hate how blocking actually nerfs my vision

[wispy bay]

Big weapon's compromise and balance.

[timid grove]

lack of rending perks also makes me question why id ever use it over other weapons

but maybe that's just me

[analog agate]

It doesn’t need rending

That is the good thing they did when they made it

[timid grove]

maybe i just need mine to be better before i judge it too quickly

and blessings that i actually use

[wispy bay]

It has high damage per hit, no need for rendering.

[prime elk]

you can wipe out an entire horde with the special lol

[timid grove]

yeah im trying that out and noticing fodder enemies surviving it on heresy

[wispy bay]

Full 2 charge should do it

[timid grove]

2 charge?

oh

thought it was just a singular q press type of weapon

[prime elk]

no charge you'll just only stagger

1 charge will kill basic enemies

2 charge to kill or badly damage human sized elites

[raven mountain]

Those numbers mean so little that it's hard to even assess anything. Actual damage spread across types and enemy types gives a lot more information, and stuff like damage taken, staggers, etc together actually let people give real analysis.

And the FGS stab does like 2k damage before any bonuses, and with scrier's and fully stacked DD, it already casually 2-shots crushers.

It just requires you to actually manage your dodges, but it does so much work on its own.

[wispy bay]

Also when you have a specialized role, your number would be lower than average.

The modifier and enemy composition play as well.

[raven mountain]

And psykers naturally have buffed numbers because of their raw offense and ability to mostly ignore enemy density, too.

And my favorite thing about the fgs is that it turns a psyker into a monster killer. Just chain heavies and aim for weakpoint/headshots. You'll usually double or triple your teammates damage on it, unless they're like a THammer or whatever.

With other stuff like an Illisi or dueling sword, I always end up feeling like I just can't manage monsters myself. FGS changes that heavily.

[timid grove]

WHY DOES PSYKER GO DOWN IN LIKE 4 HITS

[prime elk]

because it can do a serious amount of damage

and psyker got a 25% toughness buff with havoc already

so psyker's never been tankier

[timid grove]

i think u misread what i said

im playing fucking heresy and damnation and enemies hit me for like more than half my hp sometimes

NOT talking about a mauler or crusher overhead

[prime elk]

I didn’t.

[prime elk]

That’s normal

[timid grove]

oh fuck this class then

getting my penances and im getting out

[gray oasis]

Wheres the guy that wanted to see my build. Its thursday and im home

[strong gulch]

Probaly any of us if there's a build issue.

[gray oasis]

@marble crater where you at friend

I found them

[strong gulch]

Sut mention.

Hi

Congrats on red name.

[gray oasis]

Wait i got a red name?

Did i do something bad? 😭

[prime elk]

permabanned

[gray oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/sullimvs-jinrinotes-jinnielabs-dog-crying-gif-22771721

[strong gulch]

You're good. Red means you interacted enough to be allowed to to post pics and links.

[gray oasis]

Oh lmao

[glass sleet]

wait, wut? ;o

[prime elk]

yeah it got buffed when havoc came out

[strong gulch]

I completely forgot about that.

[glass sleet]

so...

with Havoc's increasing lvls, you get less and less total hp and tough

but that doesn't apply to psyker?

[prime elk]

no it does

they just buffed psyker's base toughness

[glass sleet]

i'm sorry I feel like I've missed a very important chunk of valuable info xD

[prime elk]

as a class

[strong gulch]

It applies.

[glass sleet]

lovely

i was wondering why I'm not complete dog water with him xD

now it all makes sense

[narrow herald]

Bruh why does Fatshark do nothing but buff Psyker

[glass sleet]

kinda feels like finding out Santa ain't real but I get what I can get xD

[prime elk]

months ago tbf

and then ogryn got its rework

[glass sleet]

so that was BEFORE oggy's glow up story?

mind = krak explosion

[prime elk]

yeah it was a while back

[strong gulch]

The base toughness buff happened around havoc's release.

I can't remember if it was on or soon after.

[glass sleet]

🫡 I honor the Emperor's finest with my gratitute

[left stream]

Dump stat for Dueling sword? I got one from a mission reward with penetration at 60%. Should I toss it?

[glass sleet]

Cleave

[strong gulch]

Cleave or defenses is dump stat.

Also check pins for other dumps

[left stream]

Ok

[jovial juniper]

Keep it for dodge maxxing later

With Uncanny Strike

Mk5

[left stream]

Ok

Also what’s the most versatile version of the dueling sword

For both horde and single target

[strong gulch]

DS2

The lights are a little faster and wider. The H1 special loop is strong single target damage. Not as strong as DS4, but not very far behind.

[narrow herald]

I'm gonna say who saved Ogryn 😈

[strong gulch]

If you are going right side of the talents tree, assail helps with hordes a lot.

[left stream]

Thanks

[left stream]

I do have assail equipped on that build so that should work

[strong gulch]

Most people use DS4 for the simple and strong single target damage tho.

[left stream]

Good to know

[strong gulch]

I have seen some people do the H1 special loop on DS4 as their only single target damage vs just doing H1 H2 and special as needed.

At that point, they should just switch to DS2 because the H1 special is the same damage but DS2 has better lights.

[wispy bay]

It is fine to do that to get faster uncanny stacks.

Though, I think those who do it none stop used macro control.

[hasty surge]

can someone help me do the penance for storm witch redemption raiment? I have to be in a private game

[wispy bay]

You can send me an invite

[wispy bay]

That's the boss killing one, right?

[hasty surge]

yeah

kill monster

with brain burst

[wispy bay]

Take my code and put me in your team.

[hasty surge]

lemme finish this match first

[wintry falcon]

can i come too ? xd

[brazen rampart]

*1shots.

[wintry falcon]

need to do this one xD

[fading pelican]

psyker feels like shit until you are in your level 20's imo

now one of my favorite classes

[wintry falcon]

ye but she enjoy cutting head , so it's probably better to change xD

[wispy bay]

Yes you can, but only 1 guy can go at a time.

If both of you attack the boss, none of you get it.

[wintry falcon]

sure 4624130496

[wispy bay]

Can you take mine please, Im doing something.

[hasty surge]

ok im done

[wispy bay]

Take my code then join my team

We just started

[hasty surge]

wait can I use brain rupture or do I have to specifically use brain blast

[wispy bay]

You can use the upgraded version

[hasty surge]

cant join cuz its private

rip

[wispy bay]

1 sec

Ok, try again

Woke up a DH for the boys, it decided to attack the bot instead...

Dumb DH...

[timid grove]

im level 30 psyker and have 90% of the penances done

im just only now realizing i hate the class

[wispy bay]

@hasty surge not coming back?

[hasty surge]

sorry was afk for a sec

joining

that was my first time on toxic gas lol

[wispy bay]

You 2 walk in the gas so casually...

I can fight everything, but you...

[hasty surge]

ill lock in this time trust

[raven mountain]

At least you're almost done and can stop complaining about it!

[timid grove]

[wispy bay]

@hasty surge You can get to level 30, then get some good gear. I can't do the damage for you on this one.

Sorry, I tried.

We can try again another day.

[hasty surge]

ok

[nocturne dust]

BB won't care much about gear

[wispy bay]

Yeah, but they die to fodder mobs...

[nocturne dust]

Are you running heresy?

[wispy bay]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

They just need to work on their skills then

[wispy bay]

It is not just during boss fight, it is during normal gameplay too.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, just some practice needed.

[wintry falcon]

😦 got mine thx for the help man 🙂

someone know what they mean by " shots" in the perk sustained fire , the game says +14% damage on second , third and fourth shots in a salvo ..... so it works for heavy attacks ? or just light

[nocturne dust]

Guns don't have heavy attacks?

is gun

is shot

not sure what is the confusing point

[wintry falcon]

dahell , why you have this on staff then

[nocturne dust]

oh, you're talking about for staves

[queen fog]

because staff can shoot, it just has special action where u can bonk

braced autogun are the same in this nature

can shoot but also can bonk

[nocturne dust]

yeah, just works normally for firing lmb

[wintry falcon]

uhm i see i see thx

[nocturne dust]

iirc Voidstrike benefits on RMB

and is the only staff that does (of course)

also, you have to stop firing and start firing again to make use of sustained fire more than once

generally, it's not a great blessing

[wispy bay]

Or you can quick switch to reset the bonus, but still not good.

[nocturne dust]

still stopping

[weary idol]

alas your mind is not a crusher/bulwark/mauler so it has no instakill override and instead does its pitiful base damage

meaning your brain survives

[nocturne dust]

Krak doesn't have an instakill override?

The falloff for it is just beeg

otherwise it would do not much to bosses, but krak works for those

[subtle harbor]

After using the stub revolver on zealot i think i might swap my staff out in favour of it

[plucky flax]

Fair

[dry gull]

Barrier is cool. I just wish the non dome one was wider.

[nocturne dust]

Need to be taller too

Ogryns get hit over it, and that's with no height difference

Was gonna play a game but my ping for every server is over 200 right now for no reason

[strong gulch]

Walls not being tall enough for ogryns continues to upset me.

[plucky flax]

Nice Internet

[nocturne dust]

Considering my ping is very stable on other games, yes

No lag on VT2, no lag on Warframe. Literally playing The First Descendant right now with no issues

[deft stump]

I don't count p2p. You could be host so 0 ping.

[dry gull]

Am I missing something or is the void blast staff kinda lame

Just feels like it's lacking a little juice

[nocturne dust]

Blood of Steel as well, which isn't P2P.

Also, not sure if TFD is p2p

[deft stump]

I mean VT2.

[nocturne dust]

Warframe is p2p as well

[deft stump]

Those depends on who host.

So you could have 0 ping, you could have 8000 ping.

[patent jacinth]

It’s really good

You’re probably using a not maxed out or improperly built one

[deft stump]

Or they just don't click with it. I know. It traumatises me.

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes, but one of them at least has options that let you limit who hosts based on ping

and it's not VT2

[deft stump]

Look, I know. Don't remind me. When you see 5 digit ping...

I rather dedicated.

500 ping to Africa vs 12000 ping to someone in the US.

[nocturne dust]

Still prefer p2p

at least solo/self-host is always an option

[deft stump]

I like having the choice.

L4D2 system best.

Official dedicated, unofficial/fan servers and lan/p2p.

[nocturne dust]

Server browsers never

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

Don't know why that system ever went out of style

[deft stump]

Don't ask me. I assume newer gen ppl are lazier.

[patent jacinth]

My uneducated guess is modern anticheat

[deft stump]

Press one button vs open brower, spend 10 mins finding server, click join, fail, try again.

[patent jacinth]

You can’t garuntee someone isn’t messing with their data while they’re connected to a private server

[deft stump]

Is private, they tend to mod numbers.

[nocturne dust]

That's why you have separate saves

[deft stump]

My L4D2 would be treated as so. Near inf ammo and such but tanks are all 10k hp.

But is more, tweak to what you find fun.

There's official if you like stock numbers.

[deft stump]

So Borderlands series.

P2P, but cheaters can and will ruin your saves.

I literally made a seperate char to play online vs my solo offline play char.

That online char is so messed up after like 2 weeks of playing with others lul.

[plucky flax]

Borderlands 4. Might be decent might be crap

[weary idol]

yeah and it doesn't do much to them

[nocturne dust]

It does 4.6k dmg

which, granted, is like a Rashad heavy in terms of dmg

[weary idol]

it's bad yeah

it's about 3 rashad swings

with equal damage boosts

[upbeat kestrel]

kraks need +500% boss damage

[nocturne dust]

It's a single Rashad crit or 2 Rashad swings on my build

[upbeat kestrel]

imo

[weary idol]

yeah that build I did that on was trying to have focus target/BiD be the only damage boost for more consistency in testing just how lacklustre krak boss damage is

[nocturne dust]

but I'm also counting weakspots

Regardless, yeah, it would be nice if it did more

[weary idol]

oh I also had grenade tinkerer for that screenshot

[nocturne dust]

I don't have that

[weary idol]

and then kraks on captains do...

well they don't do literally 0 damage I guess

[vernal temple]

look at this shit. having the go through another force shield just to tickle him

[limpid quest]

Okay, trying to understand psyker so I can build myself... a build. I dont know the game yet that much, but I need something to jump into the end-game, but... where can I make a skilltree so I can share it here for You to judge help me out?

[marble crater]

I was sleeping

[marble crater]

Hi

[marble crater]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[plucky flax]

Herro

[limpid quest]

Also, I will have a bunch of stupid questions.

Warp Attack stands for my Ability that I use with "G" as default? Or does it apply to FOrce Greatsword power ability?
Peril is the resource I build when I use my psy powers, and Quelling it is reducing Peril's value by f.e. holding R or venting shriek?
Toughness is the shield I have over my health, correct?

Just need to get sure, coz I just changed game language from my native into english 😄

[nocturne dust]

Anything that generates peril is a warp attack

Staff attacks, force sword special hits, blitzes

Yes to peril and yes to quelling

Toughness is the blue shield over your HP, yes

[limpid quest]

Aight, so I need to consider using a staff then, but god I hate them so fdar.

[nocturne dust]

Staves only come into their own when fully built

[plucky flax]

You dont have to use them if you dont like them

[nocturne dust]

if you're levelling, they're not a great option

[plucky flax]

But they tend to do a lot more aoe than guns

[nocturne dust]

They tend to be stronger and a whole lot cooler (I am completely unbiased)

[limpid quest]

Im fresh 30 trying to work my way around Difficulty 5 and onwards on some maelstorm

[nocturne dust]

Then you should be good

[plucky flax]

On difficulty 5 anythings can work

[limpid quest]

Ye, but then, I need to plan ahead starting to push this endgame mechanic called Havoc

[nocturne dust]

Just get a staff and build it out

[limpid quest]

"Wich one" then? So far I hated how clunky they are

[plucky flax]

Havoc all things might work but you'd be in pain

[nocturne dust]

They did make them clunkier since the quell cancel cancel 😭

But you get used to it 😔

[limpid quest]

I mean, You have no idea how many times I charged it with RMB (electric one) then clicked LMB jsut to realised I built some Peril but my attack didint went off

[nocturne dust]

Inferno is probably the easiest to get a grip on

[marble crater]

Doesn't really matter if you never used that in the first place

[nocturne dust]

I didn't use quell cancel, you are wrong

[marble crater]

Try them all, see which ones you like

[marble crater]

I also didn't use it and everything is the same

[nocturne dust]

Your attack should go off with EK as long as an enemy is in range

[limpid quest]

I dont like any of them as base, maybe I will do with maxed out stats, but god so far they are pain in the ass to use, I mean I tried 3, idk if there is more 😄

[nocturne dust]

You're a gunker

[marble crater]

No

[nocturne dust]

Don't lie

[marble crater]

I have a gunker build, like everyone else, but majority of my games are with staves

[nocturne dust]

yeah, get their stats up

[nocturne dust]

[limpid quest]

Like for example, I can deal so far with anything using my Gsword and assail, the only thing I have issues with are enemies far away like snipers or some gunners up on balcony, but staff is useless to them anyway

[nocturne dust]

Only real staffkers would notice the quell cancel change and how it hurt staff fluidity

[marble crater]

But... I never quell canceled

[nocturne dust]

Neither did I

[marble crater]

So how can I notice

[dull osprey]

btw is there a scientific explanation why voidstrike deletes captain shields?

[nocturne dust]

Because what it did do is prevent you from exiting quelling

[wraith sphinx]

I thought the consensus here was that quell cancelling was entirely unnecessary

[limpid quest]

My feeling for staff is "whats the point of charging it and releasing wich takes so long and deals so little generating so much peril when I can just assail shit into oblivion

[nocturne dust]

It is

or was

[rigid sky]

Assail has to recharge and does poorly against certain enemy types

[nocturne dust]

It deals way more damage than assail

[minor trout]

Cuz u aren't supposed to always charge it to max bruh

[marble crater]

Depends on the staff, some can deal with enemies on balcony. Lmb of staves also have great suppression

[rigid sky]

Inferno and FGS do have overlap, so I wouldn't use that particular melee with it (or assail either)

[limpid quest]

well, for me now at my point of gameplay it barely oneshot regular boys

[nocturne dust]

depends on the staff

[rigid sky]

Which staff?

They are all drastically different

[nocturne dust]

Trauma and EK prefer full charges a lot of the time

[limpid quest]

last one I used was electric

[minor trout]

I don't charge voidstrike to max unless I am hitting a crusher or smth

[dull osprey]

electric by far is the worst staff

[limpid quest]

oh look, I am not gray anymore, yewpee

[rigid sky]

Yeah, it gets most of its damage from fully charging, and it's a little left behind atm anyway imo

[nocturne dust]

EK shouldn't be that bad, but yeah, get your staff stats up

[dull osprey]

but u'Ll rethink staff usage when teh game has so many enemies on screen that they spawn from wall to wall

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike staring from a corner

[dull osprey]

hell no void is bae even on 40h-s

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike has more fun factor at least lol

[limpid quest]

ill try to work with this tree, maybe find out what to take off for extra perk for assail

[rigid sky]

Take the other assail perk btw

[limpid quest]

yes, need to find out one point to ditch out for it

[rigid sky]

Recharge less important than hitting extra target

[nocturne dust]

Lies and slander

[wraith sphinx]

oh yeah also I've taken the anti stamina pill

[rigid sky]

You can ditch the other assail point lol

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike in h40 does what EK does but worse

[wraith sphinx]

I run 3 toughness curios on my gunker now and notice zero difference

[nocturne dust]

Told ya

[marble crater]

Also no difference in being more tanky?

[nocturne dust]

KD stronk

[plucky flax]

Okay

[nocturne dust]

[wraith sphinx]

depends? I haven't played any havocs because I'm still burnt out but loading into an auric damn match and having more toughness than the vet randoms is hilarious

[limpid quest]

Before You will release goind full ham on me - I am very new to the game!

[nocturne dust]

Your tree is a mismatch, you want the right keystone for assail

[wraith sphinx]

(I dropped assail subnodes for +15 toughness nodes as well)

[nocturne dust]

and for staves, you want left side

like, from top to bottom (excluding aura)

(unless Voidstrike)

There are some example builds in the pins for staves

[limpid quest]

1 - idk what even voidstrike is
2 - I told already like 28 times I hate staves, but last time I was told "staves are only way to play psyker" so im forcing myself to level them up
3 - this is build someone sent me another day "for good havoc push"

[nocturne dust]

No worries, lol. I'll only get mad if you take Unlucky for Some.

[wraith sphinx]

voidstrike is the 🎳 staff

magic up a big bowling ball - strike!

[dull osprey]

well you can play syker with no staff

[rigid sky]

Nothing wrong with gun psyker

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is the 🎲 staff

[dull osprey]

its just not as straightforward

[rigid sky]

If you like FGS and Assail, they go great with a gun

Try a Vraks 5 :)

[wraith sphinx]

damn who told you that? gun psyker is awesome just unforgiving

[rigid sky]

And take Disrupt Destiny and Scrier's Gaze with it

[limpid quest]

idk some gigachad on this discord who everyone was simping to

[wraith sphinx]

ah

sorry was me

[dull osprey]

he probably has a vet friend who wants all the ammo