psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

I mean, at the moment it's not bad, it's just the worst staff

and being the worst staff is, apparently, a pretty decent spot

[prime elk]

nah psyker's pretty bonkers

[ivory heath]

no not psyker, ik psyker is insane imo its the second best class in game next to vet. we talkin about voidstrike staff. it worked a bit different before the talent overhaul patch, same with ek staff

[prime elk]

oh yeah

for some reason thought you were talking about psyker as a class

[nocturne dust]

psyker sucks

weakest class in the game

Fatshark needs to buff it

[prime elk]

nah

[nocturne dust]

Inferno can't do anything, Trauma and smite only staggers, zero damage, nothing against bosses, 0/10

[prime elk]

just gunker

gunker specifically

nerf soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

Nerf soulblaze by increasing its damage so high it makes the game boring

[wooden sand]

Why you want Smite 2

[nocturne dust]

Because I am a tzeentchian gremlin here to inflict pain and suffering upon the rejects through bullying the devs with complaints until my worst suggestions are implemented

https://tenor.com/view/spinnaeker-gremlins-laughing-evil-laugh-gif-13088385

[wooden sand]

Dude forgot his role

God damn

[brazen compass]

EXACTLY

Psyker is literally the weakest class; They can yell but can't give golden toughness (weakling), both forms of the shields don't do any damage which is literally pointless, Assail has to bounce through enemies rather than just delete them as soon as you press a button, all Brain Burst does is give enemies headaches for which they can just take acetaminophen, like dude come on what was Fatshark thinking???

Ark Ham Aslume levels of stupid RN 😔

Can't hold a candle to BrAuto exclusive Zealot

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-video-game-fishing-minigame-stellar-blade-eve-gif-144658803614256506

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-npc-man-hu-ha-nice-day-for-fishing-morning-mornin-gif-17883323

[sturdy reef]

good bait

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-angry-gon-bait-gif-5270896389597269350

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-calm-immune-bait-inverted-gif-581415801618242689

[plucky flax]

Is no bait its tru

[uncut sinew]

does decently in H40 for me

ofcourse specific maps help a lot to it

the more narrow the map, the better

[vapid trout]

damn no fine skins for psyker

[deft stump]

Dog with gun?

[plucky flax]

I will.

Unsanctioned arbites build.

[pure scaffold]

No, more like a worse version of vet

[deft stump]

DOG WITH GUN.

[deft stump]

So, Morning psyker builds for me. If I get it anyway.

[plucky flax]

It's probably really hard class to play.

Better stick to your vet.

[deft stump]

Throw 'nades and watch the world go BOOM?

[plucky flax]

I'm calling the police.

[molten patio]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-26895027

[deft stump]

Throw kraks and watch them go BOOM?

[molten patio]

https://tenor.com/view/peanutbutter-and-crack-sandwich-gif-15085404

[deft stump]

HRM?

[molten patio]

https://tenor.com/view/randy-feltface-purple-privilege-hrm-angry-mad-gif-24052529

[wraith sphinx]

Psyker is dangerous to play, play vet instead

[deft stump]

Naw, my psyker builds is to make actual psykers blow their head off. :3

[molten patio]

Maining psyker, though it is a glass cannon build that kind of struggles against bosses but shreds hordes and elites, as long as having the rest of the team taking the aggro 😊

[deft stump]

That's wrong, is more like...

[wraith sphinx]

Idk a friend of mine had their monitor explode when they overloaded on peril last night

Would not recommend

[plucky flax]

Tru just hide behind team.

Best strat.

[solemn atlas]

Thoughts on this? Haven't used it yet, thinking of trying it out tomorrow for havoc

[plucky flax]

Really sus.

Take pc at least.

[summer prairie]

You don't want to dump purg WR below 60 in havoc at least

[plucky flax]

I guess you want to melee more than using staff when picking gaze.

[summer prairie]

almost no one runs smite in high havoc, most players wouldn't want you to

but maybe you don't intend to use it

[solemn atlas]

Needed it for MM on the right side

More dmg

[solemn atlas]

Big number good tho

Funny brain boom number = more dmg

[plucky flax]

Sounds like you're in lower havoc levels so anything is fine there.

[solemn atlas]

-_-

[nocturne dust]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

MM is not worth it for Inferno

[solemn atlas]

It's for the greatsword

[nocturne dust]

It's a very sus build at a minimum

[nocturne dust]

yeah... I mean you can do that if you want

It's nowhere near meta to do that, but you can do it

[plucky flax]

Xd

[minor trout]

Do u guys like brain burst?

[nocturne dust]

Not sure what you're looking for in terms of feedback. As a build, it's disharmonious but functional. I don't think I'd ever run it in Havoc, personally, but you do you.

[nocturne dust]

yes (no)

BB is gross to use, BB is cool as a path to KF/Wildfire/Psykinetics

[deft stump]

You get no choice anyway. (It needs buffs).

[nocturne dust]

I like BB. I'd like it a heck of a lot more if it was more usable.

[floral olive]

Hello siblings, I have a question regarding the talents Souldrinker and In fire reborn:
Do they work exactly the same way ? I know in fire reborn will give me warp charges anytime an enemy dies with soulblaze regardless of who applied it. Does souldrinker give a basically permanent 5% crit rate + 5% toughness anytime an enemy dies with soulblaze too ?

[dark pagoda]

i was told smite is so op it makes the game boring but so far it seems like you get locked into place just as much as the enemies and things shoot you 💔

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker doesn't refresh

so no

not permanent

the buff has to expire before you get it again

[floral olive]

so it lasts for 5s and you have to wait for it to expire before getting it again

[nocturne dust]

also, you're wrong about In Fire Reborn, because it works like Souldrinker, and Souldrinker is provably wonky with activation when not on a private server/in the psykhanium

Souldrinker will only proc 100% of the time on a death from soulblaze. It will sometimes proc on a kill that is affected by soulblaze.

[floral olive]

oh

[nocturne dust]

[floral olive]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

yes

Souldrinker is generally a poor node

[floral olive]

Aaaaand does it apply if another psyker puts soulblaze ?

[nocturne dust]

In Fire Reborn is good on two-ish builds

but also only the clear winner over Vampire on one build

[nocturne dust]

yes

any soulblaze counts

[floral olive]

aight

thanks for the enlighting

so psykers work well together ironically

[nocturne dust]

Actually no

[dark pagoda]

so im not entirely sure what im missing

[nocturne dust]

So, here's the complex part

[floral olive]

smiting is a matter of positionning, you can also dodge/slide during smite

[nocturne dust]

Soulblaze stacks only to a specific stack count depending on your application method, so tons of extra application at low stack maxes isn't super helpful, like 4 blaze traumas isn't going to do much more than 1

[dark pagoda]

if you attempt to sprint it ends the smite, so how exactly?

[nocturne dust]

Furthermore, the buffs applied to the DoT depend on who gets the first stack

[floral olive]

side dodge !

press space while holding side arrows

[dark pagoda]

i meant the slide, dodging doesnt really work against ranged enemies for a lot of time

[nocturne dust]

so Inferno, which has the best buffs thanks to Blazeaway but also the shortest range compared to shriek and fire trauma, is actually hurt by other soulblaze psykers

[floral olive]

You can slide during side dodges

[dark pagoda]

huhhh

ctrl during side dodges then?

[minor trout]

So wildfire is good?

[floral olive]

give it a try in the psyk

[floral olive]

exactly

[floral olive]

LOL I didn't know that

[nocturne dust]

that question gets asked a lot

[floral olive]

I like wildfire, just I rarely have the extra talent point to afford it

[minor trout]

It sounds great to take with the shriek fire thingy

[nocturne dust]

It is, but you generally want at least 2 sources of soulblaze

[minor trout]

The build I am planning will have enough points for it

[nocturne dust]

so creeping flames shriek + PC works well with wildfire

[minor trout]

I wanna use voidstrike...

PC?

[nocturne dust]

perilous combustion

[minor trout]

What is that?

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is the worst staff at a soulblaze build

but you can do it

and it is Voidstrike's meta

[nocturne dust]

top left talent

[minor trout]

I like shriek more than gaze and it would be nice to get the wildfire with it

[minor trout]

Oh

[nocturne dust]

one of the strongest nodes in the tree as well

[minor trout]

Think I can get that too

What does it do?

[nocturne dust]

applies 3 stacks of soulblaze in a radius around elites/specials you kill

[minor trout]

Is it one of the two at the top

The second one?

[floral olive]

perilous combustion yes

[minor trout]

Shit, I may not have enough points

[floral olive]

absolutely goated

[nocturne dust]

you have it

[minor trout]

Not my build

Someone else sent it here

This doesn't have wildfire

[floral olive]

I need you to explain that a bit more plz

So for example, if someone shrieks

[minor trout]

Need 2 points to get wildfire

[floral olive]

puts 6 soulblaze on everyone

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike tends to want assail over wildfire

[floral olive]

And I have purgatus

[minor trout]

I have assail

[nocturne dust]

yes

[minor trout]

I want assail AND wildfire

[floral olive]

my first flames will have 0 effect ?

[minor trout]

[nocturne dust]

That would be nice, yes

[nocturne dust]

you will add stacks, but your buffs will not apply

[minor trout]

This then

[nocturne dust]

so blaze away won't help you in that situation

[dark pagoda]

no matter what i try i go down all the time as psyker so i might just pick another class

[floral olive]

ah yes ok

[nocturne dust]

dodge or die

[minor trout]

Psyke harder

[dark pagoda]

i am dodging constantly

[minor trout]

Dodge less often

[dark pagoda]

i just die to bullets because my toughness is ridiculously low

[minor trout]

At better times

[nocturne dust]

What lvl are you?

[dark pagoda]

29

i have 122 toughness with 2 toughness trinkets

[floral olive]

so what you mean is, if someone shrieks and puts 6 soulblaze on enemies, I hit with purg and make them go to 15 but my blaze away dmg buff won't apply to it

[nocturne dust]

I can suggest a weird build that can help you buuuuuut

like, it's better for you to learn to survive and position yourself

[floral olive]

honestly I play all 4 classes, and psyker is the one that's hardest to not die with. That said once you get the hang of it, it's RIDICULOUSY good at surviving

[dark pagoda]

my zealot never dies

[nocturne dust]

but if you're not interested in skilling up, I can suggest you something so you can have fun now

[dark pagoda]

to the point i dont take holy revenant or w/e

cause i just dont go down

[nocturne dust]

right

[dark pagoda]

but my psyker is always down

[nocturne dust]

Sure

[dark pagoda]

i just got bored of left clicking everything

[floral olive]

if you want to smite, side slide is a must

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is flimsy, you have to learn to slide everywhere and position yourself

Zealot doesn't need positioning because they tend to survive

especially in lower difficulties

[floral olive]

also keep in mind that once you smite, even from the very limit of your range, you can go back and the smite will remain

Abuse that to go back to cover asap

[nocturne dust]

Basically, always know your exit plan, always know where cover is, always be ready to dodge, always be ready to block

there's a reason psyker gets active defense nodes like Kinetic Deflection which require you to react

[floral olive]

zeal you spam left click you get your crits and you simply never die

that said, zeal now does require a brain in havoc

wasn't the case in maelstrom

[nocturne dust]

Well, I don't imagine they're playing high Havoc

the vast majority do not

[solemn atlas]

Taking a dh aggro while having kinetic deflection and vent is so funny

[floral olive]

at rank 29, for sure lol

Can't even join it

also if you want to focus on surviving, try deflector force sword with kinetic deflection

[nocturne dust]

actually, doesn't havoc just require a maelstrom?

[solemn atlas]

Yes

[floral olive]

I think so yeah

[nocturne dust]

There are normal difficulty maelstroms

[dark pagoda]

im using that and pulling it out obviously cancels smite

[solemn atlas]

Normal for lvl1 and auric for lvl 16 I think

[floral olive]

ye if you start getting shot, you may just cancel the smite and start blocking until you reach cover

when in cover, smite again

kite like that

[nocturne dust]

Smite 😭

[dark pagoda]

i tried playing like that and then my EP just kinda no longer stacked up and i stopped doing damage

so iunno

[nocturne dust]

Smite is a very powerful, very easy tool. It also tends to trick noobs.

You don't want to hold smite, you want to use it just long enough that you stun most enemies, and then let go so that they fall over and you can do damage

[floral olive]

It's not the boring overpowered skill people say it is

it's actually very well balanced

[nocturne dust]

no, it is that

it's just also nobody runs that build because it sucks and all you do is smite

[floral olive]

haha

[solemn atlas]

I once made a havoc 40 boring easy with smite build

[dark pagoda]

i do not understand what is so powerful about it that its somehow justified to be this squishy

[floral olive]

😦 I like smite, it makes game smooth

well for once, if you're playing smite you will depend on your team

[floral olive]

it cheeses havoc pretty hard

[floral olive]

outside of bosses, you kill everything

[nocturne dust]

Notice that it's the 2 psykers that passed 1 million damage in that game

Now, Ogryn has been buffed since that game

soooo Ogryn would probably be really high up there as well

[floral olive]

I've run pure smite build and the dmg is incredible

[nocturne dust]

but Psyker is unmatched in damage potential at higher difficulties and skill levels (mostly due to enemy density shenanigans)

[dark pagoda]

does smite scale with difficulty or something?

how can you do 1.7m damage with smite

[nocturne dust]

It's not smite

oh

were you asking about smite

[floral olive]

highest dmg reachers now are rumbler ogryns usually

[nocturne dust]

Right, but that's a Havoc game

Good luck with the ammo

[floral olive]

They just steal all your skills as a psyk

yeah, they use all the ammo and steal all your kills

LOL

[dark pagoda]

i might just delete my psyker honestly

[minor trout]

What blessings do voidstrike and force greatsword use

[nocturne dust]

My experience has been rumblergryn just runs out of ammo and then does a whole lot less

[dark pagoda]

im struggling in damnation when my zealot does havoc without brain active

[minor trout]

Zealot is the brain off class

[floral olive]

Pure smite build Penelope

[dark pagoda]

how is that even possible you could have every damage bonus in the game and hold down smite for an hour against max targets and be at like 900k

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike build in pins, surge and warp nexus generally

FGS is spread out. You have a lot of options. Don't use tranquility/warp slice/blazing spirit tho

[dark pagoda]

i get 300k at absolute most

and i have every soulblaze and damage increasing talent

[nocturne dust]

I like Wrath and Riposte personally on my FGS

[dark pagoda]

i use that

[floral olive]

Use shriek

[dark pagoda]

i use that too

[floral olive]

Penetration of the soul

Empyric resolve

[dark pagoda]

it does fuckall damage in damnation so in havoc it'll do even less

[nocturne dust]

That's the thing about smite

[dark pagoda]

yeah i have both of those

[nocturne dust]

it does low damage

but it does low damage to everything

[floral olive]

with one smite, I kill everything that isn't a crusher

Even maulers die

[dark pagoda]

do i just not understand how smite works? it hits like 6 people and stops

[nocturne dust]

Each time you use smite, you should be wiping the map

[floral olive]

And even bulwarks if enough elites die near them

[nocturne dust]

Smite combos to targets in a range around you

[minor trout]

Wait u guys don't use the middle aura?

[dark pagoda]

it stuns like 6 people then everybody else shoots and kills me in 2 seconds

[nocturne dust]

Smite's range is based on you, not on the target it is hitting

[dark pagoda]

how many targets can it hit

[solemn atlas]

You have a video clip to show?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

It has no cap

[dark pagoda]

if it has no cap what is the +1 jumps talent for?

[nocturne dust]

Or at least an absurdly high one I've never reached

[floral olive]

First thing about smite, don't try smiting when there are already 2+ enemies at melee range

[nocturne dust]

Faster spread + (unmentioned) increases range slightly

[dark pagoda]

ill clip next time it happens to me

[floral olive]

Take a few dodges back, and then smite

[nocturne dust]

It also helps prevent your smite from locking itself up

because there is a spread range as well

so if every target around it is smitten already, it can't jump to the enemy next to you that's far away from the last target it is hitting

[dark pagoda]

when i smite and turn around to stun things that are shooting me it loses the lightning on the things that arent in view after a few seconds

[nocturne dust]

keep your back to a wall

[dark pagoda]

i thought it just went to like 6 people and stopped

if its infinite then the problem is how long it takes?

[nocturne dust]

It takes time to spread, yeah

[dark pagoda]

is penetration of the soul that good?

[nocturne dust]

no

it's kinda trash

[solemn atlas]

I thought it was bugged

[nocturne dust]

not any more

It got fixed

but still worthless

especially when you compare it to ER

[floral olive]

let me see if I have some footage

[nocturne dust]

That's a smite build alright. Dunno why you have mettle tho

[floral olive]

remove mettle and take penetration of the soul

[dark pagoda]

smite can crit no?

[nocturne dust]

it can't

[floral olive]

Don't think so

[dark pagoda]

o

[nocturne dust]

if it could, you would take Perfect Timing

[quartz barn]

True smite endgame

[nocturne dust]

you should take Enfeeble over PotS tho

[floral olive]

I don't even think brain burst can crit

[nocturne dust]

Assail can tho

[quartz barn]

Sit in the middle of a horde and 360 spin while smiting

[nocturne dust]

[floral olive]

didn't see he actually didn't have it lol

[dark pagoda]

when things leave my field of view they stop being smited after a few seconds its weird

[quartz barn]

No thats normal

[nocturne dust]

no, that's just normal

[dark pagoda]

then why would you 360

[quartz barn]

Hence the spinning bit

To have everything smited ofc

But ngl its more for engagement because the smite playstyle is really braindead

[floral olive]

https://youtu.be/NBA2JGKPIPc?t=342
timestamped it at 5:42 that's a typical smite play, you get out of trouble abusing the infinite block and you smite and you literally save your team

[dark pagoda]

watching things melt with the healthbar mod is satisfying to me

i just die a lot

[quartz barn]

melts own healthbar

[patent jacinth]

Evil and nefarious build

You should explode

[patent jacinth]

Doesn’t it actually have a cap that’s just really stupidly high

[nocturne dust]

so many snipers their bodies got instantly sent to the warp

[patent jacinth]

Like manstopper’s 128 targets

[nocturne dust]

If there is one, I've never hit it

but no, I don't think there is one

[patent jacinth]

Either way it doesn’t matter but it’s fun trivia

128 plague ogryns

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Kuli's guide would probably mention it if it existed

[summer prairie]

No hard cap but depending on how it branches and enemy positions, the node can still meaningfully help

[modest perch]

cool and awesome build

[molten patio]

My soulblaze build 😊

[floral olive]

When hitting enemies with primary attacks (left-clicks) of any Force Staff, applies a debuff to enemies that increases the damage they take from warp attacks by 6%. Stacks up to 5 times on an enemy, lasts 10s, and can be refreshed during active duration. Can be applied through shields.

The damage taken debuff stacks multiplicatively with itself, up to 33.8% (1.06⁵=1.338), multiplicatively with other damage taken debuffs on enemies from Enfeeble, Ogryn's Soften Them Up, Valuable Distraction, Veteran's Focus Target!, and multiplicatively with damage buffs and with power level buffs from weapon blessings.

'Warp attack' refers to a list of attacks that have their damage types denoted as warp_damage_types: Force Swords' activated attacks, Force Greatswords' activated attacks, Force Staves' LMB, Force Staves' RMB, electrocution (Smite, Electrokinetic Staff RMB, Shock Maul special action), Soulblaze, Brain Rupture / Brain Burst, Assail, and Warp Rupture.

Even without the quell cancel abuse, I think it's very strong

[dark pagoda]

i wish

i die 100 thousand times

[patent jacinth]

Divine retribution

[dark pagoda]

i might do scriers gaze fgs instead cause this isnt workin for me

[patent jacinth]

Try tac axe

[dark pagoda]

y play psyker at that point

[patent jacinth]

With melee psyker

[patent jacinth]

Because it’s a different flavor of melee than the other 3

[modest perch]

lol gunker is one of the hardest psyker styles

[patent jacinth]

Hyper mobile with tons of damage and amazing weaving

[modest perch]

super strong but not easy to learn

[dark pagoda]

having my weapon out at all times so i can block sounds fine to me

[modest perch]

yea u gotta be on a sick one to play it well

generally an unforgiving class

[patent jacinth]

The hell is a block
We use overwhelming force and extreme mobility in this house

[modest perch]

nothin wrong with kinetic deflector

[patent jacinth]

Yeah

But don’t rely on blocking as a defense

Except against bosses

Fuck cspawn’s forcefield magic

[modest perch]

indeed

[modest perch]

dude dont get discouraged if psyker is your first class or something. eventually something will click and youll start to feel it

[patent jacinth]

Melee psyker is just a mood

Feast or famine

Unstoppable or eat shit and die to 2 hits

[modest perch]

so true

[dark pagoda]

its my second cause zealot left clicking got boring

[patent jacinth]

Then play a fun weapon on zealot

Tac axe

Crusher

[modest perch]

crusher

[patent jacinth]

Shock maul

[modest perch]

ew

[patent jacinth]

It’s fun but mid

Very crunchy

Knife also gives funny chemicals

[late sapphire]

have you tried long left clicking or maybe even throwing knives

[late sapphire]

tired of left clicking? try boring left click spam weapon

😴

[patent jacinth]

Propaganda spread by combat axe users

[late sapphire]

even boringer weapon

[nocturne dust]

Tired of left clicking? Stop playing the game

[patent jacinth]

It’s clear combo is PA-Heavy

[dark pagoda]

i thought psyker would be fun with like the spells but none of the spells are that fun

[patent jacinth]

Or heavy light if you run mk7

[modest perch]

swap your keybinds

[late sapphire]

you're right put the left click bind on space

[modest perch]

use one of those driving sim setups and bind it to the gas pedal

[plucky flax]

Tru psyker so bad weak and boring I can't wait to play new class and delete my psyker

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

AgentChaos when the new class releases

[modest perch]

worst psyker ever btw even worse than me

[plucky flax]

Im going to arrest and execute all the unsanctioned psykers

Starting with that fake bubble knight guy

Ruining havoc by playing melee psyker smh

[modest perch]

ew bubble knight so uncrunchy not fluffy and also stinky smelly bad

[plucky flax]

Is tru

[vernal temple]

the disrespect from someone who got netted and pounced a bazillion times during the entire mission

no wonder he's russian

[hoary lagoon]

whatis the best staff/ im using inferno but its a it boring

[vernal temple]

I keep everyone safe, scored more than a third of the total kills, yet am called "useless" lmao

[nocturne dust]

Inferno

All staves are good tho

[vernal temple]

except for voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is good

Just not as good as the others

[hoary lagoon]

inferno is cracked tbh

im using it now and its jsut crazy easy

[vernal temple]

try voidblast

[hoary lagoon]

did they nerf those ice shard things?

[strong gulch]

If inferno is boring but you still want aoe, try VB (voidBLAST; old name trauma).

[hoary lagoon]

lol ill try it now and see waht it does

[vernal temple]

VB with Warp Flurry and Rending Shockwave + 25% vs carapace makes quick work of any crushers and scab ragers

[ornate hamlet]

I haven't played in a while. Can you still do that trick to shoot a ton of void attacks quickly by quelling?

[strong gulch]

Soon-ish after assail's release it was nerfed, but it was also buffed. Not as strong as release assail, but still ver strong.

[floral olive]

no

[strong gulch]

IDK what level you are, but note that VB without high investment is poopie.

[nocturne dust]

they nuked that

well, they nuked quell cancel

[late sapphire]

you take that back

[hoary lagoon]

30 and i have an inferno build lol

[nocturne dust]

Fortunately there are definitely, absolutely, positively no other ways to cancel.

[late sapphire]

voidstrike best staff

(outside of havoc)

they did my boy dirty in havoc

[floral olive]

that was just ahk paradise

too annoying to do manually

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike isn't the strongest staff outside of Havoc

That's EK

[late sapphire]

You are just bad at using it

[nocturne dust]

and then trauma

and then Voidstrike

[floral olive]

EK really ?

[nocturne dust]

well, maybe Inferno beats it since they changed the spawns

[nocturne dust]

absolutely

[late sapphire]

You see you are called dead void because you are so bad at voidstrike it died

[floral olive]

interesting, care to explain ?

[late sapphire]

Me? My middle name is alive void

[late sapphire]

And the void in question? It's striking.

[nocturne dust]

EK is really, really good at abusing perilous combustion + psykinetics aura

[floral olive]

EK was the weakest in my mind lol

[late sapphire]

EK is OK

I used to EK shill but voidstrike is better ek

[strong gulch]

It's me. I'm bad at voidstrike.

If I liked it, I'd get better at it; but I don't so I won't.

[vernal temple]

lol this frame

[nocturne dust]

It loses out in Havoc due to breakpoints, but in auric it is absurd and outclasses other staves due to speed and versatility

[vernal temple]

looks like we'll be getting lots of new penances and penance rewards soon

[floral olive]

oh outside of havoc

I should have read better

[nocturne dust]

yes

[floral olive]

ye I'm mostly into havoc

[nocturne dust]

It's still stronger than Voidstrike in Havoc tho

[vernal temple]

havoc is boring after 20+ weeks

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike cleaves, sure, but the number of crushers and bulwarks means it often doesn't, whereas EK is faster and more single target damage

[floral olive]

indeed

[hoary lagoon]

is assial still strong?

assail

[nocturne dust]

As a subweapon, yes

[minor trout]

It feels like it flies around randomly

[floral olive]

it's good as long as you are not in a full scab map

[minor trout]

I wish I could do it like

[floral olive]

lmao

[hoary lagoon]

i remember using it as my amin wepon. jsut spam and move

[floral olive]

When you have 10 maulers and 10 crushers in front you, assail is just sad

[nocturne dust]

a lil, it targets around your reticle

[minor trout]

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-arrow-marvel-guardiansofthegalaxy2-ravagers-gif-14617100

I wish assail felt like this

[hoary lagoon]

main*this is loterally the feeling lol

[nocturne dust]

where you look is where it goes (or tries to go)

[hoary lagoon]

did it get nerfed then? before it would be a seeker

[minor trout]

Maybe I should spare a point for extra cleave

[floral olive]

assail with the cleave on peril is pretty neat against regular hordes if you run gunker

[nocturne dust]

still seeks

[hoary lagoon]

you would hold down left click and it flies around the map

[minor trout]

Cleave on peril? That effects assail?

Damn

[hoary lagoon]

ill try it in a run fuckit

[nocturne dust]

it does need extra cleave if you don't have warp splitting

[summer prairie]

there should be a mortis trials buff that increases assail duration to like 20s

flight time

[minor trout]

So the extra penetration talent is useless when warp splitting exists?

[nocturne dust]

I wish. That's the biggest issue with assail

[wraith sphinx]

we deadass need to quarantine moscow timezoners to their own servers, no other group of player is both shit at the game and constantly rude to others so much

[nocturne dust]

it just doesn't have enough air time

[floral olive]

haven't done it in a while but I'm fairly sure it does

[nocturne dust]

It does

Warp Splitting affects all things

[minor trout]

Why are so many multiplayer games filled with mean Russians?

[nocturne dust]

Technically even the infinite cleave weapons

You get double infinite cleave

[minor trout]

Then extra penetration for assail is useless lmao

Cuz u WILL take warp splitting

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[minor trout]

It is too good to not take

[nocturne dust]

well no

[summer prairie]

math.huge is only 2^1024-1

[nocturne dust]

it has limited use

[minor trout]

Limited use how

Just keep your peril up

[nocturne dust]

the extra cleave node is useful for eating hordes

it stacks with warp splitting

[wraith sphinx]

they think they can get away with being uncouth because they assume nobody west of kyiv can read cyrillic

(overgeneralization but you get what I mean)

[minor trout]

They don't even type in cyrillic half the time

[minor trout]

Sick

[nocturne dust]

Cleave

Assail

Kuli

[minor trout]

With warp splitting it is 8?

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

see image

[minor trout]

What is it with just warp splitting over 75%?

[summer prairie]

it doesn't gain more targets after 50%

[minor trout]

So it is 4 at best?

Still fine

And 50 peril is easy

That's like 2 assail throws

[nocturne dust]

5

it's literally 5 throws

[minor trout]

When I aim it takes 25 peril per shot

[nocturne dust]

oh

you aim?

[minor trout]

And I aim into a horde

[nocturne dust]

[minor trout]

Yeah

[nocturne dust]

no

use lmb

[minor trout]

More range if so

[nocturne dust]

it's horde

[floral olive]

aiming into horde sopunds clunky

[nocturne dust]

Its range is like 50 meters on lmb

[minor trout]

Doesn't it also do more damage if I aim

[nocturne dust]

yes

but not by much

[minor trout]

More damage is good

Damage is damage

[nocturne dust]

and not useful for horde

[floral olive]

does it cleave more when aimed ?

[nocturne dust]

Not if it doesn't change BPs.

[nocturne dust]

no

[patent jacinth]

Going faster is more useful, that more damage isn’t doing much compared to more shards faster

[nocturne dust]

yes

More damage per shard, less damage over time

[patent jacinth]

It takes like twice as long to throw 1 shard that does marginally more damage and costs 2.5x as much compared to just throwing more and doing more overall damage for time + hitting more targets

[summer prairie]

it's not marginally more at all, but sure too slow

it's 225 base vs 380 aimed

[patent jacinth]

68% more

Not marginal

[late sapphire]

You spam the shards out and then go back to staff blasting

[patent jacinth]

But also not useful versus trash because you kill them anyway

[nocturne dust]

I mean, damage is low enough that it's kinda marginal

[vernal temple]

As someone who's from a former soviet republic I can tell you with certainty, that's not just the gamers who act like that. that's their entire mentality - being shit at everything, yet ignorant and full of themselves all high and mighty. But that's delving too much into politics which is a can of worms of it's own and not really fit for this channel.

[nocturne dust]

what BPs does that even change

[summer prairie]

for horde

[plucky flax]

Tru i can confirm surge is bad pls never play it in havoc

[wraith sphinx]

I'm aware dw

[summer prairie]

but no idea what the breakpoints are like at 15 DD and other buffs

[blissful solar]

americans for example are perfectly cordial and not egotistical at all

and very educated

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/who-tf-starts-a-conversation-like-that-who-the-fuck-starts-a-conversation-like-that-who-tf-i-just-sat-down-conversation-gif-25275678

[vernal temple]

"big country with big guns" syndrome. US and Russia both. And China too

[blissful solar]

russia and usa are very similar in a way

not so sure about china

[floral olive]

the few times I crossed Russians in darktide, it went well personnally.

[late sapphire]

idk man usually russians are easy to identify by the cyrillic characters

[blissful solar]

ukrainian steps in

[late sapphire]

or rather the other way around you get guaranteed slavs

[summer prairie]

haven't had issues in havoc

[minor trout]

Was turkey secretly a Soviet republic cuz they act like that too smh

[late sapphire]

so its easier to get pissy at this or that group

[minor trout]

Literally anyone from a Slavic country walks in

[late sapphire]

its fine they are all russian to me

[minor trout]

Think I met 2 Russians in my life

[late sapphire]

i guess russians would agree

[minor trout]

They were... chill

[floral olive]

same

then again, being toxic on darktide is an achievement very few have

[blissful solar]

i know a russian guy and he's based. but he's actually from kazakhstan so idk if he's truly russian

[floral olive]

darktide has no pvp, so toxicity is quite low

[minor trout]

If he is from Kazakhstan

He is Kazakh

[nocturne dust]

tell that to the barrels

[blissful solar]

i dont know what he is ethnically

[minor trout]

The loveliest person I ever met is half Russian

[vernal temple]

every time Turkey is mentioned I remember that old screenshot from AskReddit

thread tittle: I'm a Turkish nationalist. Ask me anything!
first comment: So how's life in Germany?

[late sapphire]

I've met three russians i believe, two of which were transfers at my uni and hence chill and the third was a brick shithouse recently released criminal i accidentally sat next to on a train

[wraith sphinx]

I'm not counting asian parts of russia or former soviet republics myself

[minor trout]

Accurate

[blissful solar]

for all i know the reason he moved to russia is cuz he's not kazakh

[late sapphire]

yeah...

[wraith sphinx]

I've met a few folks from places like siberia and vladivostok and they were all cool

[floral olive]

lmao well shit can happen but honestly I rarely see people get rly mad over barrels

[minor trout]

Asian parts of Russia? Half of Asia is Russia landmass wise

[floral olive]

not explicitly at least

[late sapphire]

It's funny almost all of the turks living in germany are way more nationalistic than actual turks

[minor trout]

Why the fuck is Russia so big anyway

[blissful solar]

russia isnt actually THAT big

[minor trout]

Yeah,

[blissful solar]

the map we all know about warps it substantially

[vernal temple]

military expansionism

[nocturne dust]

I need a sorry on hotkey for all the people I've barreled with staves

[minor trout]

Downsides of putting it onto a map

[plucky flax]

Soviet I guess

[minor trout]

But it is still BIG

[blissful solar]

yeah it is

a lot of it seems useless coded though

[wraith sphinx]

even just the european part is incredibly vast compared to the rest of eu countries

[late sapphire]

Isn't most of russia effectively uninhabited

[blissful solar]

plus russia would get one-shot except for their nukes

[vernal temple]

like Canada

[late sapphire]

Yeah

winter wastes

[floral olive]

same goes for Canada yeah

[late sapphire]

Do they have an oleg mongol in canada?

this fella

[floral olive]

the few russians I crossed in havoc were pretty chill and actually cooperative with whatever stupid idea I submitted

[vernal temple]

Putin after eating a plate of buuz

[minor trout]

Like Canada?

[blissful solar]

i dont think it's right to judge people based on the country they're from but it can give you some clues

[minor trout]

70% of the country is too cold to live in

[blissful solar]

canada #(last number)

[minor trout]

It is okay to judge them if you are from there

[plucky flax]

You can trust uk people to have bad teeth and sarcasm

[late sapphire]

he's a real life ogryn

[blissful solar]

beans on toast

[nocturne dust]

You can judge Americans. I give you permission.

[vernal temple]

for a real life ogryn he has some good teeth

[minor trout]

Feel free to judge Turkish people they been voting for the same fucker for 20 years

They would love to live in 40k

[nocturne dust]

That grass is looking real green right about now

[minor trout]

There is no grass here

They ate it all

[vernal temple]

wasn't Big E born somewhere in the region of modern day Turkey according to lore?

[minor trout]

I think so

[late sapphire]

One of the other... 'characters' that appears in his videos has no teeth at all except for the front four, which where replaced by chrome teeth

[minor trout]

Big E, Erdogan

https://tenor.com/view/skinenr-gif-20761908

[vernal temple]

Big E is Mustafa Kemal

[minor trout]

But he is dead

...right?

[vernal temple]

[minor trout]

He would have done something by now of he was Big E

[late sapphire]

yh he is anatolian

[minor trout]

Not really Turkish just Anatolian

[nocturne dust]

Those teeth are looking real green right about now

[minor trout]

Dont touch their teeth

[late sapphire]

I still prefer the neolithic shaman ritual origin story

[minor trout]

At least Americans switch up the president once in a while

Turkey and Russia are straight up 40K

[vernal temple]

I also find it crazy that the Turkish diaspora that lives in Western Europe votes for authoritarian shitstains, while everyone else votes mostly for adequate pro-EU candidates. Same with the Romanian diaspora, based on the recent presidential elections.

[minor trout]

They do so cuz it keeps the economy fucked

And makes their vacations cheaper

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/reaching-hand-out-give-you-a-hand-lend-you-a-hand-let-me-help-you-maddie-ziegler-gif-14282083

[late sapphire]

Nah

[minor trout]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-15987109458749701381

[floral olive]

when did it turn into a political channel lol

[late sapphire]

the turkish diaspora, at least in germany, has its own distinct culture which informs their voting choices

[minor trout]

I hate them all don't care why they vote

[vernal temple]

don't forget Belarus

[minor trout]

They shouldn't be allowed at all

[vernal temple]

The Potato Pope is in charge for over 31 years

[minor trout]

Why is some random fucker in Germany deciding who runs MY country

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-chasing-dog-fluffytail-gif-21970767

[late sapphire]

Pretty funny right

[floral olive]

Completely unproductive to talk about that with strangers on the internt

[minor trout]

If I move out of here

I am NOT voting

I shouldn't be allowed to

[late sapphire]

I was gonna say just come to germany and vote erdogan as well

[floral olive]

Anyway I'm looking into Empyric shock and it looks very good

[minor trout]

The day I vote for Erdogan is the day I rip my fucking head off

[floral olive]

for purgatus

[minor trout]

It would hurt less

[minor trout]

What isn't

[nocturne dust]

nope

[minor trout]

Is it*

The one you trigger with light attacks?

[nocturne dust]

The problem with Empyric Shock is that it takes time to do LMB when you could just do more RMB and do more damage in the same time

[minor trout]

That does sound good for it tho, unless it doesn't effect burn damage

[floral olive]

The damage taken debuff stacks multiplicatively with itself, up to 33.8% (1.06⁵=1.338), multiplicatively with other damage taken debuffs on enemies from Enfeeble, Ogryn's Soften Them Up, Valuable Distraction, Veteran's Focus Target!, and multiplicatively with damage buffs and with power level buffs from weapon blessings.

[minor trout]

Don't you mainly use LMB for purgatus

[nocturne dust]

It does, it just is slow and eats 2 points

[nocturne dust]

no

[minor trout]

Really?

[nocturne dust]

LMB stagger, RMB damage

[minor trout]

Is it like the flamer?

Bruh

[nocturne dust]

have you been using it wrong

[keen cargo]

Any thoughts on devil claw on psyker ?

[floral olive]

I use LMB quite a lot to stagger

[minor trout]

I don't even have it

Lmao

[floral olive]

when kiting

[late sapphire]

with purgatus you do half charged rmbs

[nocturne dust]

it's one of the weapons of all time

[late sapphire]

to maintain stacks

[floral olive]

but otherwise, yeah you just charge it

[minor trout]

I just thought it just spews flames with lmb

[late sapphire]

its so peak just parry

[nocturne dust]

yes for Blaze Away

[patent jacinth]

No, flamer only ever does right click

[keen cargo]

i want to make it work out but it feels lackluster compared to the other weapons

[nocturne dust]

no, lmb is short puff

[nocturne dust]

cuz it is

[minor trout]

Is there a mod to make the soulblaze effect not so fucking bright so I don't get blinded if I am playing at 3 am with a psyker

[summer prairie]

with the node tax it's not good except maybe for for some surge lmb builds. Possibly some marginal utility if there's another psyker

[floral olive]

LMB is insanely good for clutching imo

[late sapphire]

it is lackluster

[keen cargo]

shame because parry is super cool mechanic

[late sapphire]

the parry is great the rest is shite

[minor trout]

Do u mean lef

Left?

[patent jacinth]

No

[late sapphire]

just run dueling or force sword

[vernal temple]

charged RMB for damage and crowd control. LMB taps to stagger the 40 fucking ragers coming your way

[floral olive]

I used Devil claw on psyk and it's neat imo

[patent jacinth]

You just do the right click and hold if you need to use flamer

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't even bother with that, since you don't need to kite anything LMB can stagger really, and even if you did by messing up you can just dodge backwards normally and kill them before you have to do anything else

[keen cargo]

yes i've been playing obscurus a lot recently ( fed up of DS on every damn build )

[minor trout]

LMB staggers RMB fires, same as flamer

[patent jacinth]

Why would you need to puff flamer with its draw time

[minor trout]

It is still the same mechanics

[patent jacinth]

Just hold the channel and dodge whatever is trying to hit you in melee

[minor trout]

Why don't the psykers ever actually use the damn staff tho, they hold it and shoot with the other hand

[vernal temple]

but doesn't use fuel

[minor trout]

Is it like a conduit

[patent jacinth]

Yes

[minor trout]

So it is not like a magic staff

[hoary lagoon]

so i just tried assial... its absolutely trash

[minor trout]

You are trash

You can't yondumaxx

[vernal temple]

oof

[minor trout]

Get yondumaxxing NOW

[hoary lagoon]

only good agaisnt trash mobs and you have to manage peril so much yikes

[nocturne dust]

no

[patent jacinth]

Are you using it right

[slow anvil]

You just need to build it right

[hoary lagoon]

it wasnt good at all imo

[floral olive]

anyway about empyric shock, it improves ALL warp dmg, so it can be neat if there are other psyk 😄

[nocturne dust]

also no

[patent jacinth]

Assail is great for sniping and controls ranged everything very well

[minor trout]

It is great for anything that isn't carapace

[patent jacinth]

Fire and forget versus specials

[minor trout]

And it mows down trash mobs

[floral olive]

assail is great for staggering RAGERS

[nocturne dust]

It's a fire and forget subweapon that's rapidly deployed

[minor trout]

You won't make it your main weapon

[nocturne dust]

You swap to it while doing other stuff and lmb once (or more, doesn't matter) and then go back to murdering with your other weapons

[minor trout]

Or you see a random special far away and aim and watch them get hit by a random shard lmao

[slow anvil]

And as for peril better learn how to manage it cause if you can seamlessly handle assail and a staff you should be a better then most of the poppers

[patent jacinth]

Or when you cap out scriers and then use Warp Unbound to throw like 12 hyperbuffed shards

[nocturne dust]

normally I just lmb spam at a special

who need aim when aim for you rock aims for you

[minor trout]

It is so satisfying to aim it when they are far

Like FAAAAR

Or down a ledge

[marble crater]

No, he is right. Assail is bad and needs to be buffed

[late sapphire]

you should try chaxe

its fun

[slow anvil]

No

[nocturne dust]

lies told by a chaxe lover

[keen cargo]

On psyker ? But that doesn't sound like a good idea

[slow anvil]

On any class it’s a bad idea

[nocturne dust]

It's not good

but it works fairly decently with psyker's kit... if you ignore all the pain points

[patent jacinth]

2 mobility stats and it’s still a slow as hell weapon

[nocturne dust]

Can't wait for force chaxe, which is totally real and coming, to be even slower

[late sapphire]

its so good though

[slow anvil]

But don’t worry it still will be worse then chain sword

[late sapphire]

Ok look it's not 'good' but it is 'fun'

[nocturne dust]

fun isn't real

fun is a lie made up by big corporations to control you

when has entertainment ever entertained

[late sapphire]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WnHcSUuhEYcbDGc5G_C27OjZxdrl8OSF5Rs8CpVGzds/https/media.tenor.com/V3Cr80QaZQoAAAAC/ant-sting.gif

use the chaxe

do it NOW

[nocturne dust]

this is merely a simulation on the futility of existence, the never ending drive for more

[minor trout]

Will it rev or power up?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[nocturne dust]

both

press special

revs with lightning effects

[patent jacinth]

Context menu

Every single time

[nocturne dust]

every time you press special it pauses the game for everyone so you can decide how to use it

[patent jacinth]

Nope

Doesn’t pause anything

[nocturne dust]

That's more boring

[patent jacinth]

Restricts all your input until you choose though

Better decide quick

[nocturne dust]

Nah, let it pause

Screw with the blunts

Lore-accurate psyker shenanigans

[patent jacinth]

New kick on sight weapon

[nocturne dust]

pause before they kick

[late sapphire]

rev on right click, power on special. no block.

[late sapphire]

left click blocks if neither revved nor charged

[nocturne dust]

I cannot accept any melee that does not work with KD

[wraith sphinx]

aww baby needs his kd blocks

[nocturne dust]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-i-don’t-need-it-i-definitely-don’t-need-it-thirsty-gif-17101453146721253330

[minor trout]

I wish every weapon had a parry

When you block

At the right timen

[patent jacinth]

Vt2

(Kinda)

[nocturne dust]

perfect block exists

it doesn't do anything outside of like, 5 niche things?

maybe less

[patent jacinth]

The relic blade thing
The shock maul thing
The ogryn thing

What else

[wraith sphinx]

psure that's it

[wispy bay]

Well, it does stagger mobs around you.

[summer prairie]

soon a power sword thing

unless those were placeholder blessings

[upper sun]

powersword(axe)

[wispy bay]

Wishful thinking

They can't even finish the EK...

[summer prairie]

"templates.weapon_trait_bespoke_powersword_p2_slower_heat_buildup_on_perfect_block" so useful

[wraith sphinx]

so bespoke...

[summer prairie]

it also has the attack speed on perfect block one

and "stacking_finesse_on_one_hit_kill" which seems like a new one

not bad

[patent jacinth]

Decapitator

Its not good

[summer prairie]

true

not sure why it has a different blessing name

well whether it is good depends on the weapon

[patent jacinth]

It’s stack duration is really short right

[summer prairie]

8s for this blessing

[patent jacinth]

Better but I feel like it won’t be great anyway

[upper sun]

why does fatshark think vets and zealots use blocking?

[marble crater]

How else do they avoid playing with psykers?

[summer prairie]

surely someone is going to use a blessing that on a perfect block makes the weapon special generate 22% less heat and dissipates heat 6% faster for 5s

[upper sun]

people use barrage on purge

[summer prairie]

probably better than this

[quartz barn]

Ngl fatshark shot themselves in the foot with the reliance on movement in dt

Because perks like these are literal traps

[buoyant maple]

It’s abysmal dogshit

It’s meaningfully less damage than headtaker most of the time
And has far worse activation condition

[summer prairie]

It's far worse than headtaker sure

the duration is 8s here though and the weapon doesn't have headtaker

[strong gulch]

hi

[marble crater]

hi

[late sapphire]

relic blade gets only dogshit blessings

[dark pagoda]

i think psyker just doesnt vibe with me

i literally cannot get behind it

im just dying constantly even with every toughness regen talent

back to zealot i go

[strong gulch]

Fair.

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Thank you for your service.

Psyker is so hard I think only really pro players can play this class.

Some unsanctioned guy is top 1% I heard.

[dark pagoda]

i deleted my psyker cause i was in the perfect smite moment where i was stunning everything for my teammates to pick each other up and the hound decided that being stunned wasnt something smite does and grabbed me causing a loss

frankly i am tired of gaslighting myself into thinking psyker's kit is worthy of being so squishy and i have removed the temptation

[brazen compass]

Well, Psyker requires an uncomfortable amount of pressure to play

[marble crater]

Rage quit so hard you deleted the character

[dark pagoda]

deleted the character because it was causing me to not have fun and sunk cost made me keep playing something unfun

[plucky flax]

I roll my eyes every time I see a psyker in game tbh.

[marble crater]

That's what smite does, not have fun

[summer prairie]

a classic case of a smiter being let down by their team

[plucky flax]

It's always team's fault.

[wraith sphinx]

Sorry to hear that, hope you decide to revisit psyker someday

[plucky flax]

You stun everything team should just finish the mission smh.

[dark pagoda]

somehow the other psyker did worse than me according to the leaderboard mod

so maybe its a skill issue and a double skill issue on the other person part

but as far as im concerned psyker is just easily the worst class

[summer prairie]

yes

[marble crater]

Yes, we need buffs

[brazen compass]

For sure

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's pretty bad.

Staves are useless. Shoot not as good as vet. Melee not as well as ogryn and zealot. Die to 1 hit.

I only play psyker for the pain.

[brazen compass]

Don't forget how Assail is an inferior Rock

[strong gulch]

lackadaisical knife

[marble crater]

It's 3 times worse, that's why we have 3 times more

[strong gulch]

[slow anvil]

Wait people actually don’t have fun, easily my second favorite class after zealot

Then vet then ogryn

[strong gulch]

Ye some don't have fun on psyker.

It's my favorite.

I do wonder if Cemetery tried non-smite builds tho.

Sure psyker is squishy, but there's multiple ways to play it.

[brazen compass]

Problem is playing safe as Psyker is not exactly what people think it means

[wraith sphinx]

It is all for naught if you can't handle psykers fragility

[brazen compass]

It means good footwork and aggression

Playing passively is what kills you

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah

[deft stump]

Says the top DPSer in like every game.

[marble crater]

Which is why EK is my favorite, it's perfect for that playstyle

[strong gulch]

Just forget what jump or swap buttons are and still live. It's fine.

[strong gulch]

same

[brazen compass]

Me too

[plucky flax]

Not me it's someone else.

[brazen compass]

Love me EK, simple as

[slow anvil]

Me dodge sliding threw a horde as I smite them it always fun

[deft stump]

Uh huh. As if I'll believe that considering I pestered you, said UnsanctionedPsyker, to carry my H40s as usual.

[marble crater]

It's actually his older brother

[plucky flax]

It's some fake guy wtf

[brazen compass]

Nah I played with him a few times before; Every game he always breaks down every point on why Psyker is bad and other players using their different classes are vastly superior

[deft stump]

You were on VC with me even!

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

Until death not needed. Also be out of position so that you don't get golden toughness. Live off vibes.

[deft stump]

You mean, complain I don't book enough.

[brazen compass]

Don't want for him to complain to you to book, just throw them at the heretics

The biggest enemy of all: reading

[dark pagoda]

i tried scriers gaze force greatsword

[deft stump]

Why do you think book is that good? They flee and cower from book.

[dark pagoda]

my main character atm is a relic blade zealot so it just felt like a downgrade in every aspect

[brazen compass]

@plucky flax Thank you for your sacrifice, you will not be forgotten 🫡

[strong gulch]

Melee psyker even squishier. 😭

Live in danger.

[brazen compass]

Literally edging

[dark pagoda]

the staffs dont really interest me

which i guess is why im not having a good time

[plucky flax]

Fgs is actually better than relic blade.

[autumn lark]

dont play smite

play melee greatsword psyker

[deft stump]

To be fair, carrying me is hard. I have around 300 unstable ping.

[dark pagoda]

my flowchart was
wow greatsword -> wow brain burst is awesome -> difficulty got higher and brain burst became nigh unusable -> woah EP is awesome -> get told smite is the best spell so start using smite cause EP is cool feeling spellswordy -> die 900x more than my zealot -> go back to zealot

[brazen compass]

Ironically enough I enjoy the staves the most because they are distinct

[strong gulch]

Probably. Staves are easier imo.

But like you said, if you prefer guns and melee, zealot has more talents to reinforce those. Make melee more forgiving.

[dark pagoda]

i dislike staves because they dont help my character fantasy

[brazen compass]

I carry in 300 ping

[dark pagoda]

i want to feel like a cool sword person with spells not a wizard

[brazen compass]

You're a spellsword

[plucky flax]

Carry me

[deft stump]

Only on heresy. I may or maybe not need to solo MM.

At any ping.

Depends on how good the psyker is. Lul.

[brazen compass]

Nah you can do 300 ping carries, just spam blocking and use a lot of stamina

Gotta tank those ghost hits somehow

[strong gulch]

Not me. I'm too bad.

[rigid sky]

I prefer Assail with FGS and gun personally

If you don't want a staff, try that route

[dark pagoda]

i might make an ogryn

[rigid sky]

Take Gaze with the Finesse boost and Disrupt Destiny with Lingering Influence

[plucky flax]

Oggy op

[deft stump]

Or survive walking into a hail of shots because you rolled a 20 and server thinks you aren't there.

[dark pagoda]

big pickaxe wielding ogryn

[strong gulch]

pet rocks

[wraith sphinx]

Smite isn't necessarily the best though

Like it's potent cc but it also prevents you from brushing up on your positioning

[dark pagoda]

brain burst having no meaningful way to increase its damage means it falls off hard in havoc

lower difficulty you 1 shot the infrequent crusher, higher difficulty you 3 shot one of 6 crushers

assail doesnt really interest me

so that left smite

[brazen compass]

Don't forget when your attacks don't register but the enemies' does

[plucky flax]

Mk8

Way more ppl play mk6 now from what I've seen.

Not a 50/50 split like when fgs first came out.

[brazen compass]

I use the one with sweeping lights, which mark is that? I forgor

[deft stump]

A classic. Just use knoife and see how nothing bleeds.

Or oggy with bleed.

[plucky flax]

They both have. But mk6 has one strike down light at the end of the chain

You prolly mean 8

[wraith sphinx]

You should reconsider, assail is a really potent anti soft target blitz

[brazen compass]

🤔 it might be the Mk 6

[plucky flax]

6 has stab as heavy 2

[brazen compass]

Do they both have the PA stab?

[wraith sphinx]

Very versatile too

[plucky flax]

No only 8 has pa stab

[brazen compass]

Kk so yeah, I use the 8

I'll try the 6 some more

[plucky flax]

Noob spotted

[brazen compass]

I usually flip-flop on the DS for dodging and the FGS