psyker-class

[buoyant maple]

u do need to remember that pushing but not chaining into push atk is a thing

[nocturne dust]

Note: This is path's version of mid-tier

which is not Psyker related

for Psyker it's neat

[buoyant maple]

for psyker it's mid tier as well

rashad is 7.5s fyi

[nocturne dust]

sure, but everyone can use Rashad, and Rashad doesn't have the reach or the slash

[buoyant maple]

yea, I'm just stating facts here

15s is mid tier

[nocturne dust]

I mean, what beats it other than Rashad

[buoyant maple]

mid tier is not "bad"

[nocturne dust]

especially if you actually include the warp slice

[sturdy reef]

dont really need wrath if you are running warp splitting tbh

[buoyant maple]

mid tier just means it's not in the upper echelons of horde clear when compared against every other melee weapon

[buoyant maple]

if u include warp slash it's low end of high tier

[sturdy reef]

Ogryn melee horde clear is goated

[nocturne dust]

sure, but Psyker doesn't have many good horde clear options so for Psyker, I don't think it's mid-tier

[buoyant maple]

just remember there's always rashad

[nocturne dust]

Sure

[sturdy reef]

taxe

mk7

[nocturne dust]

Now let's look at Rashad without lightning speed

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/btXAz.gif

[buoyant maple]

that's like, 9s ish

which is still ahead lol

[nocturne dust]

I guess I'm thinking from my more familiar standpoint of staffker

[buoyant maple]

just not 2x as fast

combat axe also has sprint cancel tech to attack faster

[nocturne dust]

and would you like to time it in a real battle instead of cutting down X amount of horde enemies standing in the same spot

[buoyant maple]

in a real battle u can actually fk urself over in clear speed by having stagger

[sturdy reef]

u used to be able to lightning speed light the force swords

[buoyant maple]

so I only test 1 spot 50 pox

[sturdy reef]

by quell cancelling

rip

[buoyant maple]

it's the highest density possibility which makes it the fastest it can possibly get

if u get slow clear speed in that, then that weapon will suck even more vs dense horde in real game

[nocturne dust]

true, but at the same time clearing very fast is closely correlated to how a weapon will perform in a real horde clear situation, but obviously isn't a perfect descriptor

[buoyant maple]

ofc it's not

never said it's perfect

just that it's the upper limit

every other value u can get is gonna be slower
as to how much slower, that depends on too many variables to study

ex: crusher can get rly slow clear because u staggered everything away

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but you are denoting it as 'horde clear' without marking out that it's a very specific scenario you're measuring them by

[buoyant maple]

idk, if ur not measuring fastest, what are u supposed to measure

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you could measure 50 unpaused poxwalkers

That would at least be closer to real combat

[buoyant maple]

and do how many trials

because I've tried that

and u can get wildly different numbers

[nocturne dust]

something something statistics something something n=30

[buoyant maple]

I'm too lazy to do all that

besides there can be talent tree spec differences

[nocturne dust]

Fair

[buoyant maple]

so I test fastest possible, in a replicable manner across classes

no martyrdom

[nocturne dust]

I'm definitely not going to do 30 trials for every weapon every time there's a talent/weapon change

[buoyant maple]

always with 10% atk speed bonus

and no excessive dmg juicing

only sorta exception I made is psyker

because duelling sword IV without scrier's gaze is so much m1 clicking it hurts my hands

(it took 36s+ to kill 50 poxwalkers, firmly cementing itself as lowest possible horde clear in the game)

[weary idol]

even slower than knife in the same circumstance?

[buoyant maple]

knife is 18.7s

[nocturne dust]

knife isn't bad at horde clear

[buoyant maple]

illisi is 18.5s btw

so whoever thinks illisi has cracked horde clear

prob is not in touch with this reality

[weary idol]

weird

[nocturne dust]

is that fleshtearer knife?

[weary idol]

illisi feels like it has much better horde clear in practice

[buoyant maple]

flesh tearer mk6 knife

[weary idol]

but it's just placebo?

whack

[nocturne dust]

No it doesn't

[buoyant maple]

whopping 6.5 cleave on heavy sweep

yes 6.5

[weary idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/655919787180032000/1373038264004378705/crispy-boi-atkas.gif

[buoyant maple]

same as mk6 knife's heavy sweep

[prime elk]

hey that's higher than rashad

so must be good

[weary idol]

why did they give the horde clear force sword bad cleave

[nocturne dust]

When I was a noob I literally touched the Illisi once and immediately determined its horde clear was not that great

[buoyant maple]

smth smth psyker deserves no complex melee weapon back when the game launched

[nocturne dust]

Staves are clearly too complex

[weary idol]

hmm

[buoyant maple]

yea then they released a melee weapon with an optimal horde clear combo of swap twice + light twice

exclusively for psyker

[nocturne dust]

that no psyker uses or does

[weary idol]

I do :)

[nocturne dust]

You are a fake psyker

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-frogs-frog-kiss-gif-8479381718670557517

[buoyant maple]

u may or may not suffer from severe irrational autism

[nocturne dust]

They should've made Psykertide

4 classes, psyker, psyker, psyker, or psyker (ogryn)

[jovial juniper]

Test made without empowering illisi

Powered up is 10.5 iirc

For lights and heavies

[weary idol]

entirely possible

[nocturne dust]

are you using slaughterer

[jovial juniper]

With slaughterer is 14 something

Powered

[nocturne dust]

yuck

[fading patrol]

Oddly specific

[young spear]

does anyone have an estimate to when this rotates back in store?

[verbal thistle]

2

[patent jacinth]

Eventually!

[young spear]

i hope they do away with the store because it kinda sucks waiting ??? time for a single cosmetic set :(

[patent jacinth]

It's 6 you idiot

[nocturne dust]

Estimate: [-Inf, +Inf]

[wooden sand]

2 years

[prime elk]

very long time most likely

[nocturne dust]

Little set joke for you math nerds

[young spear]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-stressed-cat-banana-cat-gif-15455068164842202481

[cursive thorn]

hi chat im finally almost lvl 30 i need a psyker build preferably one with the bfgs or the inferno staff bc they sound cool

[nocturne dust]

see pins for meta staff builds

[cursive thorn]

god i miss the ogrynomicon

[nocturne dust]

Don't use the guide

The guide is outdated, and even when it wasn't, some of the views were questionable.

[mental grail]

shit is so ass

it's why I just use fgs now

Illisi is asscheeks at its one job

[mental grail]

Peak

[deft stump]

But isn't it's job is for you to stroke it in the lifts?

[wispy bay]

Stop rubbing your sword unsheathed in public elevator.

Do it somewhere more private.

[deft stump]

But everyone else is jorking their stims.

[minor trout]

Chem dogs baller

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ican-quit-anytime-i-want-to-quit-tantrums-tell-me-face-me-gif-15178482

Sometimes, y'know, I just get a need... a need to stroke my sword. And maybe that's in public. Maybe that isn't. I can quit tho. It's not an addiction.

[mortal current]

is deflector any good? gunners are destroying me

[upbeat kestrel]

Yup

You just wont do as much damage

[nocturne dust]

It's not good outside of Havoc

If you're having trouble and not in Havoc, I'd recommend working on your positioning and sliding/dodging to avoid damage over relying on what could become a bad crutch (just like Bubble)

[upbeat kestrel]

Deadvoid speaking truth

[plucky flax]

I use bubble deflector in sedition

[nocturne dust]

You should upgrade

play Vet, use smokes

Blaze it out with the other seditioners

[plucky flax]

Smoke is good i can run shriek freely

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-see-you-later-into-the-smoke-goodbye-gif-2065340289165169704

[deft stump]

Twinned smokes with all the 'nade perks.

Yes.

Chaos has seen the horror before.

[elder glade]

The Emperors boof

[weary idol]

I ran this in mortis trials and it was extra funny

[nocturne dust]

wat do smokes even do in Mortis

[deft stump]

Smite.

But no peril.

30 secs smite.

Assuming you get lucky and got a certain INDULGENCE.

[ornate hamlet]

smonk

[deft stump]

Oh and 20 sec 'nade regen.

inf smite.

And it actually does damage.

[brazen warren]

illisi: You can hold alot of stuff in a single spot and manage them fairly well. Not as lethal, and has poor single target and dodge capability that can be moderately addressed by deflector but it requires effort.

good horizontal move set

mk8 FGS is also good at horde clear via its light move set, it does more damage per swing base, and it has single target in its overheads. Building crit gives it a much more smooth mass control, which means it doesn't get stuck after hitting to many things or from hitting something solid like a crusher. Crit also gives it more damage overall by ignoring armor and the multiplier, but the more consistent swings over time means your dps is up.

as a direct comparison between illisi and fgs m8

dodges are about the same distance, but fgs has less of them before hitting the cap iirc

[nocturne dust]

What Illisi has over FGS is mobility and dodges. Both mk6 and mk8 FGS are better than Illisi in damage.

[brazen warren]

yep, trade off

[nocturne dust]

Kind of. In an ideal world, it would be an equal tradeoff, but FGS' damage and reach is significantly better to the point where there's an obvious choice, and it ain't Illisi

[brazen warren]

the block attack stab on the mk8 can be a bit tricky to get used to, but the high stagger from the psyker push with the thrust damage also chunks

[nocturne dust]

Heck, the FGS' reach often means you don't even have to dodge once before the thing is dead

[brazen warren]

just have to remember the sequence pulls in a few targets in a short cone first, then pushes a single target

the stab can be charged for more damage too

as in, hold it for a power attack

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't pull?

[brazen warren]

they stagger towards you a tiny bit

[nocturne dust]

no

[weary idol]

p sure force sword pushes do actually hit the back of enemies

I know they at least used to work like that

[nocturne dust]

It's push -> push atk -> heavy (stab)

[weary idol]

you used to be able to force sword push attack a bulwark onto the ground because the first push would make them turn around back when they had 360 degree blocks (lol)

[nocturne dust]

Which is stagger, hard stagger single target, stab

[nocturne dust]

I think you're thinking of a bug

[brazen warren]

the first stagger is towards you instead of away, but not a powerful stagger

[nocturne dust]

which was supposedly patched at some point iirc

[brazen warren]

usually only good at flinching light targets

[nocturne dust]

again, no?

Yes, it's only good at flinching light targets. It is the standard melee push

[brazen warren]

I am wrong, just tested it, must have been back when the game launched

apologies

[nocturne dust]

[uncut sinew]

aquaman does really well in H40, might be my new favourite staff for it

[nocturne dust]

Aquaman?

[uncut sinew]

voidstrike

aka aquaman

[nocturne dust]

Huh?

Voidstrike is the worst staff at h40

[uncut sinew]

does well when i use it

[nocturne dust]

Well, you seem to have lots of skill

considering you're pathing through BB and not Assail

[uncut sinew]

i tried with assail, but barely used it

so i decided bb, due to PA

could take smite too

just incase

[nocturne dust]

I honestly think this is just a case of you being good and not the staff Voidstrike compared to the other staves is slow and doesn't have infinite cleave, so it generally fairs significantly worse than the PC enabler (EK) or Voidblast/Inferno.

at least in Havoc, where every corner has carapace and enemies galore

[uncut sinew]

anything is good in the right hands, and me being a tuna, this might be my calling

[nocturne dust]

Shame I only have left hands

[uncut sinew]

unfortunate

but i do love killing like 7 shotgunners in one shot

so satisfying

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is my favorite staff too, so it's not like I haven't tried it in Havoc

[uncut sinew]

[nocturne dust]

It's not bad, it's just not OP like the other staves are in Havoc.

[brazen warren]

scrier's gaze vrak mkV is my favorite, I run it with raking fire and dum dum to just spray into monstrosity backs for a good chunk of damage

not as good as it was, where it could easily 2 mag a plogryn on damnation, but still fun

[nocturne dust]

Vraks Infantry Auto + SG is the best boss killer on Psyker

Followed closely by Inferno + Uncanny shenanigans

[brazen warren]

if I get the chance to drop a mag all head shots it melts

but they like to pirouette like ballerinas in most situations, mostly because the teammate it focuses doesn't attack lock it in place (which is a niche thing to know how to do I admit)

[cursive thorn]

inferno seems kind of ass ngl

[brazen warren]

question, are the finger/hand tattoos new?

[nocturne dust]

It is literally the strongest staff in Havoc, currently, lol

[cursive thorn]

the 280 rating one i grabbed from the shop barely scratched anything bigger than a poxwalker

[nocturne dust]

Ah

Firstly, staves kinda suck before they're fully built

Secondly, Inferno scales with enemy density

[brazen warren]

purgatus is one of my faves, infinite ammo flamer

[nocturne dust]

so it performs a lot better in harder difficulties

[brazen warren]

stack a bunch of brittle debuff with soulburn on crushers, crispy

[nocturne dust]

It takes a long time to kill a single poxwalker, yes, but 100 poxwalkers take the same amount of time

[brazen warren]

but just cleaning a room is good too

[uncut sinew]

yeaahh, had a guy yesterday who was confused why i would run aquaman instead of purga

[brazen warren]

it also is making it easier over time for your allies to kill stuff too, similar to smite

[nocturne dust]

"It's meta, or nothing" cocks purgatus

[brazen warren]

lololol

[uncut sinew]

nuh uh

[brazen warren]

my purgatus is crackhead mode, combat knife speed zoom zoom

[uncut sinew]

obscurus still the best psyker melee

[brazen warren]

thats the og FS yeah?

[nocturne dust]

nah

[uncut sinew]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

FGS

[uncut sinew]

this i can agree with, but i don't

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrr-mgr-get-real-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-gif-25549181

[uncut sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-tissue-gif-22242558

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/3rd-rock-from-the-sun-third-rock-from-the-sun-john-lithgow-dick-solomon-tissue-gif-3194406611278307527

[brazen warren]

mm, illisi FS moveset

meme soulblaze crits

[nocturne dust]

Fire sword was this close to being real on FGS

then Fatshark said no

Bleed sword is real tho

[brazen warren]

rev the chain sword, go even faster

spam rev for bonus points

they should probably combine the two talent nodes on smite for the 10% electrocute damage and heavy attacks apply electrocute

[wraith sphinx]

That would be nice yes

[brazen warren]

because a two point dip for 10% base damage is kinda alot

[nocturne dust]

Charged Strike was buffed too, lol

[brazen warren]

base damage is strong, so i understand the number value there, but electrocute itself is not a long lasting debuff

[nocturne dust]

Electrocution debuffs are always their own thing

i.e. Charged Strike works differently from other electrocution debuffs

[brazen warren]

I dont think they do good damage, so its probably a stagger debuff of some kind

[nocturne dust]

it applies a small DoT which is about... a couple hundred damage with buffs now?

[nocturne dust]

nope

[brazen warren]

hmm

[nocturne dust]

no stagger

It's just bad

[brazen warren]

doesnt help there is no way to properly test whay electrocute does

[nocturne dust]

It's a 'good' node to buff bad weapons with very high cleave and very low damage

like Dclaw

or Illisi

well 'high' cleave. More cleave than DS, really.

[brazen warren]

Dclaw is fun, but I wish I could go all in on the parry king playstyle somehow that makes it ridiculously OP at that single thing

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can

You can literally parry every attack these days and only have to watch out for overheads

and guns, lol

because Dclaw blocks the whole time you're parrying now

so only attacks that ignore blocks are a threat

(you can still parry overheads tho, you just run the risk of something eating your parry first and then you get to eat the overhead)

[deft stump]

Just to usable.

[nocturne dust]

Eeeehhhhh

I wouldn't put a point in it, so not usable for me

[deft stump]

You get what I mean.

[nocturne dust]

I do, but I'll pretend I don't.

[hollow jolt]

Powered Devil Claw when?

[nocturne dust]

Force Claw where I can parry bullets when

[wraith sphinx]

Bullet parried also charge its shockwave slash

[brazen warren]

hmm, fist weapons are pog

[deft stump]

Force fists. Just be a monk and punch bullets.

[mental grail]

Stroking it is useful and let's me continuously edge, but its performance after it's been stroked is subpar.

It's why I use a longer one.

[deft stump]

I guess. But the longer one is harder to edge with without wasting.

[mental grail]

It's all about timing your strokes properly, it's harder with the longer one, but more useful.

[minor trout]

What in the actual fuck?

[mental grail]

Don't worry about it.

[nocturne dust]

What? You don't like stroking your sword? All psykers do it. They do it all day, it's important for your sword's effectiveness after all, and if you don't do it often enough you may forget how to do it and need someone to help you remember.

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[minor trout]

Wouldn't know I am a zealot with an axe

And I sure as hell dont stroke it

I give it to hadron, she does all the maintenance

[nocturne dust]

Just remember, Sefoni is always watching.

[minor trout]

She can help

But I don't think she knows how to handle weaponry

Too busy swimming

[shut marsh]

How does Sefoni eat? Must be hungry.

[upbeat kestrel]

she feeds on her toys

[thorny blaze]

Some of you need The Emperor

just sain

[shut marsh]

Yeh some Snivellers here sound like them pink heretics.

[minor trout]

All those pipes

[late sapphire]

You think the emperor doesn't stroke his big flaming golden sword from time to time?

[wispy bay]

I actual did a few Dclaw run in Havoc with the sole purpose of having fun parry dueling the Lt and Cpt to dead.

[marble crater]

@upper sun "Consignment Yard HL-17-36 Mission: The area around the Medicae before the mid-event has received an update to its visuals and layout."

[upper sun]

i was not sch1zo after all

"Level 30 rejects will no longer talk about ratlings."

[strong gulch]

"If a player is part of a Strike Team when they enter the Mourningstar, the text chat will automatically default to the Strike Team channel instead of the Mourningstar channel."

Nice. I have a mod to delete.

Hasn't blight spread been one of the active mutators? How is it incoming if it's currently active??

Haven't been doing havocs, so idk.

[upper sun]

idk imma be real outside of the havocs we did

i have not thought about havoc once

[marble crater]

More banter is nice

[plucky flax]

Ye it got introduced last week. No one asked for it. Worst modifier

Thanks fartshart

[potent echo]

Are they adding dog2

[summer prairie]

More upcoming event stuff I guess "Stop the Admonition's dark rituals by destroying tainted skull artifacts. Be prepared, Wyrmwood agents report intense enemy activity in the area"

"Nightmare Mode" (?)

[strong gulch]

I guess be prepared for it to continue since it's "incoming".

EDIT: The patch notes have been updated to say outgoing!!

[plucky flax]

Probably just old note they wrote

And patch just didn't come out

[strong gulch]

[summer prairie]

"Enter the {talent_name:%s} for {duration:%s}s, during which you have {movement_speed:%s} Movement Speed, {damage_taken:%s} Reduced Damage Taken, {movement_reduction:%s} Reduced Movement Speed Penalty from Actions, but you cannot Sprint.\n\nEach Elite or Special Kill while in the stance, reduces its the remaining Cooldown by {cooldown_percent:%s}.\n\nBase Cooldown: {cooldown:%s}s.","

[upper sun]

"its nothing but beasts of nurgle and bulwarks"

[summer prairie]

"Trigger an explosion when entering stealth"

[upper sun]

🤔

[summer prairie]

"Frag Grenade explosions apply all stimpack effects to any player caught in the explosion"

is that a new mutator for Mortis Trials

or an old one

maybe the other ones are as well, who knows

[upper sun]

"stimpack"

are we in the wasteland now?

maybe theyre finally adding adventure mode

[zinc phoenix]

It lists the blight spreads as outgoing

I am interested

[blazing drift]

thank god

that is actually super annoying on pysker

[strong gulch]

Lists it in the code or patch notes?

[summer prairie]

Looks like they are adding duplicating enemies mutator to havoc since there's new code for it

[strong gulch]

That would be cool for regular mode too.

[quartz barn]

If thats going to work like it did in vermintide itll be ass

Mfw i kill a plaguerat only for it to turn into 2 blackrats that instakill me unless i block after every swing

[plucky flax]

A captain spawning 2 chaos spawns xd

[marble crater]

BoN spawning BoNBoNs

[potent echo]

Loot rat spawning 2 bosses was peak

[summer prairie]

the hotfix has a ton of new lua for a powersword that uses a heat mechanic, so I guess that's coming with the content patch they are teasing

I think the "Nightmare mode" is an alternate mode for Mortis Trials with harder waves

[jovial juniper]

Yes

YES

I can explosively inject stimms on myself

That's actually peak

[patent wing]

oh nice to see some old faces
came here to rant about missing quell cancelling on any staff

dont play half a year and all is trash now and i even missed havoc stuff because i use psych ward

[potent echo]

You mean for 1h ps for vet?

[summer prairie]

likely a separate powersword rather than a replacement

[potent echo]

[burnt oar]

I messed up! I've put the correct rotation on the notes now!

[strong gulch]

Oh gotcha. Thanks for the update.

Added a note to my post.

[analog agate]

A fat shark employee in psyker chat? Rare day

[wind wind]

Just had a consignment yard auric maelstrom, 3 purgatus staff psykers and a taunt ogryn. 24 mins, no deaths, I - E - F mael.

Absolutely Epic

[summer prairie]

If I'm reading this right, one of the options for the Mortis trial final wave (simultaneously?) spawns 1 BoN, 2 plague ogryns, 3 chaos spawns and a bunch of ogryn enemies, maybe they'll last more than a few seconds

in the new Nightmare mode

[deft stump]

Isn't that normal?

[summer prairie]

6 bosses at once?

[deft stump]

Is 3 random bosses with a chance of a fourth.

[upper sun]

mortis is all over the place sometimes i had no bosses on the final wave

[summer prairie]

it was 3 yeah

there are three wave variants

[deft stump]

Or twins.

[summer prairie]

I think there's also an alternate with up to 3 captains

[deft stump]

Don't think so unless very rare.

I play too much mortis.

[summer prairie]

Talking about the new upcoming harder version

[deft stump]

Ah, then perhaps.

I mean, ppl wanted harder, but it's dumb to override the casual fun.

[summer prairie]

well it doesn't replace the current one

[deft stump]

I know, why is gud. Everyone can have their fun.

[summer prairie]

This seems to be the table for the duplicating enemies mutator, similar to Tzeentchian twins in v2. They have to tweak the duplicating changes quite a bit, I think, as currently it's 100% (???)

renegade captain -> daemonhost?

[jovial juniper]

Chaos Spawn into mutant

[summer prairie]

though looking at it more, you only get elites from ogryn enemies

[patent steeple]

btw, should I take Warp Battery (aka 6 warp charges) or Warp Rider for my blaze VB build?

on one hand, Warp Rider would give a bigger max bonus, but the extra +8% damage buff from Warp Battery would be more consistent, especially since I use shriek and In Fire Reborn...

[jovial juniper]

Why not both

On a serious note

Warp Rider is more core than battery

[plucky flax]

Thanks and can you also pass it on to the gameplay team please that nobody in havoc like blight spread.

Silo cluster in h40.

Hell breaks loose.

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Peak meets peak

[tired estuary]

I like blight spread

I like having purple health bar with 1hp because ogryn constantly mashes rumbler

[plucky flax]

I like having zealot not going corruption aura then after 3 mins all the melee guys are at 1hp.

[tired estuary]

its okay tho ogryn is here to never have to give a shit about it and call human classes punies for being affected by a game mechanic

[autumn lark]

first havoc rotation with 0 players

[summer prairie]

Very odd that they are removing chasm station immediately, unless that's also incorrect

@burnt oar are the outgoing maps correct?

[jovial juniper]

Cranial Corruption Silo Cluster

You get a pack of suppression immune reapers at the stairway to hell

[burnt oar]

You are making me panik

Incoming Missions:

• Silo Cluster
• Smelter Complex
  Outgoing:
• Chasm Station
• Chasm Logistratum

[summer prairie]

They added the outgoing maps a few weeks ago

[marble crater]

Stop bullying the CM

[summer prairie]

And now they are removed instead of maps we have had way longer

[wind spruce]

Extremely valid points

[deft stump]

And they put in Silo, the map that requires fixes to give a little more cover.

[wind spruce]

[cloud sequoia]

Got nerfed, because people abuse it

[plucky flax]

Kill the game mode.

[wind spruce]

I haven't been playing much either and I'm still not used to it

Quelling shouldn't be dangerous 😭

[autumn lark]

bad players used quell cancel

[plucky flax]

Helldivers got attachement system for their guns recently.

Maybe it's time I get back to it.

[jovial juniper]

Next rotation
Only Silo Cluster and Gloriana

[wind spruce]

Idc about the cancelling but I do care about being locked out of other actions while it ticks

[jovial juniper]

All other maps removed

[weary idol]

they should make it lock you out of other options longer

[summer prairie]

sounds good

[wind spruce]

That would be unironically awesome... for a little while

[wind spruce]

Why are you filled with hate

[weary idol]

a staff psyker killed my parents by exploding them off a ledge with a barrel

[wind spruce]

Staffkers are the worst

Can't take 'em anywhere

[summer prairie]

tried the havoc silo cluster a few times in solo mode and didn't get a boss in the first area once

it was previously crashing in solo mode due to some boss spawning error, I hope they didn't move the spawning locations further into the map

[wind spruce]

48 hours until they announce the new mission and a handful of tweaks to some mid-tier weapons

[jovial juniper]

I vividly remember a boss spawn on the drop past stairways to hell

[summer prairie]

in a monster maelstorm you almost always get several monsters immediately

[quartz barn]

Even regular maelstrom or even auric would spawn monsters in that area

[summer prairie]

yeah that's the point

[quartz barn]

Good old glubby into dh combo

[wind wind]

Such bullshit. I got dc at the end of Mission, reconnected, saw the Victory screen but got none of the rewards and nothing in the match counted towards my weeklys

[summer prairie]

also didn't get any monsters spawns in the first Silo cluster area in a monster maelstorm in 3 attemps, but maybe not a large enough sample size

[quartz barn]

Just continue until the big elevator and see if it spawns there

[summer prairie]

I do get spawns eventually

just never got any in the first section

[quartz barn]

Maybe the spawn just got disabled

[summer prairie]

right but that would ruin the fun

[wind spruce]

Spawns aren't affected by being solo?

[quartz barn]

Ye but this kinda depends on why the spawn causes crashes to begin with

[summer prairie]

shouldn't be

[quartz barn]

Or used to rather

Blame the captain i guess

[zinc phoenix]

As a comment on havoc rotations I quit Darktide when blight spreads is added and wait to play it until whenever it gets removed

[quartz barn]

Blight isnt all that bad cmon now

[wind spruce]

It's pretty horrendous if you don't have beacon of purity

[analog agate]

It is horrible for any melee character

And just in general

[quartz barn]

I understand that everyone has their likes and dislikes but why ping a cm that you refuse to play...

[analog agate]

Oh I wouldn’t do that. Not defending his ping hahaha

[upper sun]

my god

yard is amazing

the spawns now peak

[patent steeple]

hmm... idk if I should take crit aura for the blaze VB shriek build, or if I should take Seer's Presence instead...? (Seer's Presence would save me 1 point because I take BB with that build, meaning I could then take EE to better survive shooter groups, or take Warp Battery to stack even bigger damage with Warp Rider...)

[upper sun]

peak

[dark pagoda]

melee psyker got me feeling like a spellsword

[zinc phoenix]

i can play around it, i dont want to play around it because it sucks

so instead i just uninstall the game

🦐 le as

[wind wind]

They changed the shower room and the area leading up to it on consignment yard

Irritated the fuck outta me at first

[narrow herald]

@nocturne dust .......

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db644f3-8fd7-4786-9af0-cc63ebf840b2/tanners-purge-staff-meta-build

BOOO

[jovial juniper]

I mean

It's pretty standard

My ick is on thrust DS

It's getting popular it seems

[prime elk]

eww

six charges and essence harvest

but otherwise looks fine (fuck tanner anyway)

[minor trout]

Who tf is tanner

[loud girder]

dont ask

and dont answer

[upper sun]

at least they removed the annoying dh spot

[deft stump]

Just no.

[upper sun]

thrust uncanny
bros.............

[loud girder]

thrust unironically works

[minor trout]

That bad?

Damn

Now I am more curious...

[deft stump]

Just play vet with DS on a funni build. Uncanny Agile 1 shots muties anyway.

[glacial vapor]

What do you take instead of thrust? Riposte?

[loud girder]

riposte or precog

[prime elk]

just your typical influencer asshole who's full of himself, often wrong, and racist

[loud girder]

not the tanner shit again

please

[deft stump]

Look, even swimming in a sewer is cleaner than being around or knowing that guy in sense.

[minor trout]

I wanna join y'all

[minor trout]

Is he here?

[deft stump]

He is banned perma.

[minor trout]

Good

[autumn lark]

Tanner was carried through havoc by dorn

[strange wyvern]

So all of them

[prime elk]

well he's kinda the worst in the DT community

[deft stump]

Most, considering some on here are still pretty nice folks.

If you count Youtubers as influencers.

[narrow herald]

I think that makes sense if you are trying to hit a consistent breakpoint for Mutant one shots

But then

Why is there no maniac on the perks?💀

[deft stump]

Just be a vet and accidentally have a boss killer build that does that.

[strange wyvern]

meanwhile ogryns with rocks just need to hit center mass to 1 shot them

[deft stump]

Is rocks though, IDK.

Oh, I also run Agile Uncanny.

So heh.

[strange wyvern]

Has a special flag, insta kills muties regardless of difficulty or modifier

[deft stump]

I figured. Why, is just roks though.

[strange wyvern]

Warp empowered rocks

Made of unobtainium

[deft stump]

I guess.

[wind wind]

Eh, i liked that spot. made for funny fights

[wraith sphinx]

I love my warp rocks (assail)

[rapid steeple]

Hello siblings, did anyone catch the new cosmetics added with the hotfix? Hoping for a greatsword skin…

[zinc atlas]

Assuming there's 2 venting shriek psykers: Can a venting shriek overcap soulblaze on a target that is already overcapped? Not for like practical use. Just curious if someone has tested it.

[rapid steeple]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that vent applies the 24 (I think that’s the overcap) stacks, and if someone else shrieks, it just refreshes the stacks

[zinc atlas]

So the overcap has a cap?

[fervent yoke]

Venting has a cap of 31

[zinc atlas]

Also wondering if talent nodes such as "In Fire Reborn" or "Souldrinker" work on targets affected by another players soulblaze dots. Based on description it should but you never know with these spaghetti code video games.

[fervent yoke]

There's a video that explains soulblaze caps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHEaRy0Zjc

[fervent yoke]

In Fire Reborn works with other player's SB dots iirc, not sure about Souldrinker

[dark pagoda]

is there a lore reason that every single psyker cosmetic has that tall collar

[weak sierra]

It's called a psykana collar and it gives them better control over their psychic powers.

[dark pagoda]

i see

[weary crane]

Creeping flames and perilous combustion override existing caps until 31

[jovial juniper]

Helps with Warp Shenanigans

Specially preventing summoning daemons

[wraith sphinx]

I like to think it works similarly to the grounding wire in electrical systems

[cursive thorn]

is that the one that completely blocks off the medicaid station next to it

[verbal thistle]

its a bomb collar when they misbehave

[stark crown]

I'll never forget them bitching live on stream, all the while Dorn was just casually carrying him

[autumn lark]

and then bragged about being world first havoc 40

[verbal thistle]

with someone with havoc 40 title in the party

curios

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/curious-genius-magic-harry-potter-wand-gif-5016321

[verbal thistle]

I changed someone's mind about smokes with my video

they thoughs smokes didnt work and were terrible because tanner said so

[tired estuary]

oof

[verbal thistle]

so I linked my video and he was like "I see"

[prime elk]

I would like to see smoke buffed though

[jovial juniper]

Props to them being able to see with all the smoke

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-smoke-grenade-gif-12354350061668714276

[cursive thorn]

what dump stat on inferno

[jovial juniper]

Warp Resistance

[brazen warren]

smokes are fun

[cursive thorn]

whats a good melee to pair with inferno

[jovial juniper]

A single target one

Dueling Sword

Knife

Obscurus

Deimos

[verbal thistle]

FGS

Rashad

Tactical Axe

I use chain axe most of the time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1374442495907205152/17B3B31.MP4?ex=682e10d2&is=682cbf52&hm=237b72361c7e4b79dcc8484dcf7965044fa5662fb02beeabf2c71b2f11ad7270&

this is how you use Chaxe

[cursive thorn]

which mk

[verbal thistle]

2 or 7

I think 7 is alot easier to use

just spam PA and the 1st heavy

then lights only for Carapace

[cursive thorn]

spam what

[verbal thistle]

Push Attacks

[weary crane]

Anyone got a gaze build for havoc? Always feels too squishy

[wraith sphinx]

Blessed, almost every of the 6 randoms I saw using smoke nades used them badly or not at all. Hope this changes someday 🙏

[verbal thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhrV7dDOmqo

people just need to see how they are meant to be used

Dont mind burger throwing them at all the melee enemies

[cursive thorn]

what blessings/perks

[verbal thistle]

flak + unarmored. Headtaker + Brutal Momentum

[cursive thorn]

why isnt the game letting me change my weapon mk

i have them all unlocked, i click equip, exit menu, and it doesnt change

[verbal thistle]

switch characters and maybe close game

[wraith sphinx]

Sounds like fs server fuckery

[rotund dagger]

I'm with my people

[broken carbon]

tanner,,,

been a while since ive seen someone mention him

[rotund dagger]

smokes work

but also smokes lame

Make them work like bardins smoke

[jovial juniper]

We love aggro dumping

[rotund dagger]

aggro dumping is only a problem if you don't take advantage of your invisible and just like stand there

Get the drop on someone important, you'll uncloak and that aggro will come back to you

[rotund dagger]

who the kark put on X on my shid

[patent steeple]

what, so gives ranged damage buffs and/or toughness gen to anyone in the smoke?

[weak sierra]

X marks the spot where treasure is hidden!

[rotund dagger]

maybe not, that'd probably be too strong

just plain old invisibility

[patent steeple]

those two things are the more important things that bardin's smoke does and what the vet smoke nades are missing imo...

the invis would be just a bonus...

[weak sierra]

hear me out here
stimm subnodes for smoke grenades that give stimm-like buffs to allies within the smoke
mutually exclusive to each other of course

[narrow herald]

INJECT THE KUSH

[cursive thorn]

should i be actually using brain burst on this build or just proccing it with kinetic flayer

[nocturne dust]

inhale the kush

[weak sierra]

I had no idea. But it gives me confidence in this server, since that guy seems like more than a bit of a twat.

[cinder hemlock]

anyone has a proper Scrier's Gaze build

[nocturne dust]

Gunker

[narrow herald]

Lies

[nocturne dust]

Use Gun

Use Melee

Use Assail

Win

[narrow herald]

Go inferno

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's Inferno is really really neat except for the part where you don't have shriek or bubble

[plucky flax]

Go bubble knight.

[nocturne dust]

No shush

They asked for Scriers

[narrow herald]

Bubble butt

[plucky flax]

Fgs doesn't need gazer.

It's already op

[nocturne dust]

nobody said anything about FGS

[plucky flax]

[cinder hemlock]

what weapons, blessings?

[nocturne dust]

Vraks, Recon, Laspistol

[narrow herald]

Weapon is inferno

Blessing is run'gun 😈

[nocturne dust]

shush you

For gun, Vraks Infantry Auto, or the fastest firing mk of the Recon/Laspistol.

For melee, Deimos Force Sword, Force Greatsword, Obscurus Force Sword

You can also do Rashad I guess

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah but psyker is so fragile so it's still the worst class :(((

Fatshark! Another assail buff

[plucky flax]

Tru it sucks

[plucky flax]

Ds4

[narrow herald]

Illusi

[cinder hemlock]

dump stat for blaze force greatsword?

[plucky flax]

Tacaxe

[nocturne dust]

Vraks: Dumdum, Deathspitter
Recon: Infernus, Dumdum

that for dumps

[plucky flax]

See warp resistance dump warp resistance and call it a day

[nocturne dust]

Except voidstrike

[narrow herald]

See Damage

Dump it 😈

[plucky flax]

I dump warp resistance too

[wraith sphinx]

I couldn't ever concieve dumping stability on something

[plucky flax]

Don't care dont @ me

[wraith sphinx]

I'm Emperor's strongest recoil hater

[nocturne dust]

this is why you are bad at Voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

@

[plucky flax]

Its the worst staff so no one actually cares

Haven't played voidstrike in 6 months

[nocturne dust]

FGS: Anything but Murderous Tranquility, Warp Slice, and Blazing Spirit (Those 3 suck)

[wraith sphinx]

Which one is voidstrike again?

[nocturne dust]

Wrath recommended

[wraith sphinx]

Blue ball shooter or white explosion

[nocturne dust]

ball staff

[wraith sphinx]

Ah

[plucky flax]

The one makes the bullet cracking sound

[wraith sphinx]

Voidstrike is nice wtf

[plucky flax]

It has good sound design but it's so bad

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/well-you-know-what-i-care-i-care-a-lot-aimee-garcia-ella-lopez-gif-17400438

[nocturne dust]

And it is the weakest staff

[wraith sphinx]

Hygiene is very important

[plucky flax]

The last time I saw a void strike psyker in havoc was never

[nocturne dust]

Staffkers eatin gud

[plucky flax]

Xd

[wraith sphinx]

Idk guys

My vraks pattern voidstrike is very strong

The strongest!

[nocturne dust]

Force Swords: Uncanny and either Slaughterer or Deflector (Slaughterer recommended if you aren't in high Havoc)

[wraith sphinx]

Yup

Personally I use illisi with uncanny and slaughteter, and vraks iag with fire frenzy and dumdum

Both fun and good for tryharding too )

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is a weapon that exists

I wouldn't recommend Illisi for tryharding

[plucky flax]

Its good for normal mode

[wraith sphinx]

Look I prefer its special over deimos

[nocturne dust]

it's alright

[wraith sphinx]

And yeah I mostly play non havoc anyway so

[nocturne dust]

well your first mistake is using the Deimos special

Deimos' real special is h2

[plucky flax]

I've clear maelstrom tru duo with illisi slaughterer deflector

[wraith sphinx]

No nk you misunderstand

I don't use it

[plucky flax]

Must be okay

[patent steeple]

why use Combustion on Gunker? I don't get it, because the men covered in blue fire look too much like the DD target blue-man, who could potentially not be covered in blue fire...

[wraith sphinx]

Kill 5000000 poxdogs in 0.1 seconds

[nocturne dust]

PC on gunker is more of a free node than anything outside of Havoc/Maelstrom

But in Havoc/Maelstrom, it will eat groups of elites

[plucky flax]

Can drop if you want even in havoc pc alone only give liek 100k ish damage

[wraith sphinx]

It's good for carrying in general

[nocturne dust]

which is very, very nice

[nocturne dust]

yes

[wraith sphinx]

But yeah it really shines on havoc

[plucky flax]

So 100k damage from 1.5mil damage is like what 5% damage?

[wraith sphinx]

About so yeah

[plucky flax]

Maybe 6%

I like it enough to keep it anyway regardless of builds

[weak sierra]

I use it up to about h20

[plucky flax]

Nice one I'm not that high yet I'm around lvl 10.

[wraith sphinx]

For me the game is just more fun the faster we can remove specials

[patent steeple]

I myself always use a +15 toughness node instead of Combustion on gunker, because shooters are annoying at the very least, and I don't want to take hp damage from a poxburster or a sniper shot at full toughness on Damnation... (without that +15 toughness I would be at less than 133 toughness, meaning bursters, shooter groups and snipers would be much more dangerous...)

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[wraith sphinx]

I can't get past 21 on my gunker 😦

[plucky flax]

[weak sierra]

Don't worry you'll get up there! I can help carry you if you're new to this game!

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

Im not new just really bad and like to play in low difficulty anyway

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/korshunov-stalker-2-stalker-stalker2-ward-gif-4316907427003349762

[plucky flax]

Its alright though thank you

[wraith sphinx]

I'm just gonna join other ppl's low level havocs unti i get havoc exemplar so everyone knows I like to help 😇

[nocturne dust]

I'm 'new' 👴

[plucky flax]

Said im not new

[nocturne dust]

Very 'new', so 'new' I can count the years playing Darktide on one hand!

[plucky flax]

Im 2k hours new or so

[nocturne dust]

Wish there was a leaderboard for hours in Darktide so we could see who most needs the touch of grass

[wraith sphinx]

I installed the game yesterday and just have 700 hours 😦

[plucky flax]

There are ppp with 5k+ hours

True dark tiders

I consistently see ppl higher lvl than me and im lvl 1k so

[wraith sphinx]

Mgl before I played with you guys every 1k+ level I encountered was an asshole

Ngl*

[nocturne dust]

Me at only 300 on psyker

(I spent the other 700 levels in the Psykhanium)

[wraith sphinx]

You spend too much time on sefoni's of

[nocturne dust]

You are mistaken

[wraith sphinx]

No I'm 50rem

[nocturne dust]

It is Sefoni who watches me stroke my sword all day

[wraith sphinx]

HUH?

[plucky flax]

There are only a couple 1k+ psykers here in this channel

Me syllo (900 something) diabolic

I think ironsk is quite high but dont think he's at 1k

[nocturne dust]

I should run +xp

[plucky flax]

Beans between their 3 psykers probably around 1k

[wraith sphinx]

3 psykers!!

[blissful solar]

gaygent gayos

[autumn lark]

+xp +ordo +curio%

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/bvndit-dead-chat-dead-group-chat-lol-gif-26075659

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-flamer-heresy-purge-warhammer40k-lightning-claws-gif-16488791

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/oceansjonas-monkey-monkey-gifs-gif-3533852270425481686

[marble crater]

You are not the cute Asian girl gif guy

[plucky flax]

[blissful solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/544034067855966230/1372089553925443646/nArIvYp.gif

[blissful solar]

we all are, in our hearts.

[marble crater]

Not him, he is a fraud

[prime elk]

Cute? Half of them don’t even look human anymore 😭

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-chuu-loona-kpop-anniehasleftoop-gif-24335842

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ada-wong-ratlabs-resident-evil-aeon-phone-gif-6920509701310823970

[plucky flax]

With enough plastic surgery even your ugly mug can look cute

Just need money

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/my-god-barbie-doll-shocked-omg-gif-16958287

[blissful solar]

aww that's so nice!

[strange wyvern]

Then their face melts in sunlight

[plucky flax]

Use umbrella its op against sun and rain!

[nocturne dust]

You're thinking of Vampires

different thing

[blissful solar]

that's what sunscreen is for

[strange wyvern]

besides, who needs plastic surgery when you're already full of yummy microplastics?

https://tenor.com/view/microplastics-me-eating-microplastics-me-eating-cat-cats-gif-1850316069691321432

[plucky flax]

Sunscreen still tans you though

I want to be white

[blissful solar]

gotta get spf 200

idk how sunscreen works

[plucky flax]

It reduces risk of skin cancer and sun burn but you'd still get darker. The higher the number the stronger the blockage but more expensive

Spf 50 is sweet spot for cheap and decent protection. 70+ and 100 are very expensive

Also stuff for children tend to be cheaper and better. At least in Europe cos laws to protect children and stuff so there are more vigorous tests

[blissful solar]

i just buy the sunscreen asian girls use

they must know what's up

[plucky flax]

[blissful solar]

at least i was gonna if it was on amazon

[strong gulch]

Ye. I use Asian sunscreen. If I want water resistance tho, Australian is the way to go.

[blissful solar]

reddit suggested something called "Rohto Mentholatum Skin Aqua Super Moisture Milk SPF50 PA++++"

it sounds almost like a darktide build or something

[marble crater]

Asian sunscreen? What is happening?

[blissful solar]

companies based in asia that make beauty products for asians (especialy asian women/girls)

[strong gulch]

If you want to dive into the sunscreen rabbit hole, Lab Muffin Beauty Science has you. Youtube, IG, etc

[weak sierra]

Get yourself a big wide-brimmed wizard hat made of some dense material. It'll help block out the rays of the sun from your skin.

[blissful solar]

reddit suggested that too

[plucky flax]

I use Australian sunscreen cos ill be sweating when running

[strong gulch]

Important things

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-my-eyes-it-burns-gif-5848866

[nocturne dust]

E z solution

Don't use sunscreen

Don't go outside

[plucky flax]

Vitamin d sometimes good

[nocturne dust]

That's just wat big sunscreen wants you to think

[strong gulch]

The Asian girlies demand lotions and potions to be nice to use. 🙏

[marble crater]

Use protection if you get that vitamin D

[blissful solar]

[plucky flax]

People consistently are surprised by my age because I take care of myself

I've been checked at the shop when buying 18+ product lol

[marble crater]

Sounds like babyface

[strong gulch]

I just hang out with people older than me and wield my cane.

[plucky flax]

Nah just built different

[prime elk]

Superior genetics

[nocturne dust]

built like a baby

[plucky flax]

[fickle tundra]

What's the dump stat on inferno staff?

[verbal thistle]

warp res

[fickle tundra]

Cheers

Mine already dumps that thankfully

[upper sun]

dude i think they pulled yard out of rotation

cant find it anywhere

[cinder cradle]

can electrokinetic secondary crit?

wanting to run warp flurry and warp nexus, not sure if it's doing anything

explicity not interested in doing the primary fire build, my wrists would never forgive me

[fervent yoke]

it works 👍

[blissful solar]

yard was last seen 6 hours ago according to the darktide mission github thing

well, 6 hours ago for damnation. 5 hours ago for any difficulty

[upper sun]

ye

audio was fucked in half the mapo

[marble crater]

That's the meta build

[verbal thistle]

you do know they said that in the pathc notes

[blissful solar]

where

[verbal thistle]

that they were changing it

and that means they remove it

no?

[blissful solar]

not necessarily

but maybe for this game

[dusky crag]

The changes for it are live

[blissful solar]

it's possibly some quirk of the mission board that they have to take it off idk

[upper sun]

I didnt see it there

there were new patch notes?

[upper sun]

i played it instantly after the update spawns were great but sound was fucked in like 30% of it

[verbal thistle]

Tested the map

found 3 spots where enemies cant reach you

lmao

I found like 2 trolling spots

[upper sun]

i wanted to do that thats why i was looking for it lmao

also do spawns feel better in it?

when it was up today spawns were FIRE

tho thats prolly because no one could hear shit

[verbal thistle]

I was playing sedition

idk

the sound problems were already a thing

in the 1st main staircase room

before last medicae in the big doorway

[upper sun]

it looked good spawn wise

[upper sun]

yup

happened to me even before they updated it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1373292222170267799/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.05.17_-_15.19.12.03-00.04.14.559-00.04.27.129.mp4?ex=682dd60c&is=682c848c&hm=ff0df31cbb3be0fb67a4eb075c21a29536c1b064aeae48f77bdfddda9be1a4bb&

[strong gulch]

Check pins for EK. It's RMB build.

[cinder cradle]

tyty

[rotund dagger]

Chat Block my beloved

[patent mango]

skulls darktide update announcement will literally just be basegame chatblock

[upper sun]

worth it tbh

idc

[nocturne dust]

Pictured: Clad

[mental grail]

I want to eat it

[wind wind]

Fucking Glitchtide

[brazen rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-tussiniiduk32-gif-27701794

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/food-patrick-patrick-the-starfish-chewing-chew-gif-15740791

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-chum-anchor-pixar-finding-nemo-gif-15718052

[indigo siren]

Forty. Fucking. Gunners.

[cinder moon]

Level 30 rejects will no longer talk about ratlings.
what da heck

[wooden sand]

What this have to do with pyskers, dear friend

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is a reject

https://tenor.com/view/draco-malfoy-harry-potter-mewing-mew-slytherin-gif-8263298459687914233

[wooden sand]

Pysker reject level 30

Or just pysker

[cinder moon]

i ain't going into general chat

only siblings and ogryns are worthy of this discussion

[wooden sand]

General is your worrys?

[nocturne dust]

Either they're removing it because we're getting a ratling class (not happening ) or they're removing it because it's like, one of the few idle dialogues that get spammed in higher difficulties and they're tired of people theorizing about ratlings getting added (probable)

[jovial juniper]

Back in September
A player got annoyed about Ratling
That player then went and killed every single Ratling

That's why

[cinder moon]

[jovial juniper]

I'm not joking

[nocturne dust]

Vermintide 2 lore

[jovial juniper]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-committee-to-exterminatus-all-ratling-worlds/99439

[cinder moon]

[wooden sand]

That means we getting tf2 Engineer

[jovial juniper]

(it's probably a bandaid for some bug)

[nocturne dust]

They're finally going to add solo mode, this one line was a gamebreaking bug preventing it

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[wooden sand]

Just call it true solo mode

The bots die at the start anyways

[nocturne dust]

I had a bot with me for an entire 20 minute clutch once

[wooden sand]

Had

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, then we went home and he went off to go save some noobs

[potent echo]

When is the skulls strim

[deft stump]

That depends on the dice roll. Bot competency is sus. And sometimes more competent than ppl... sadly.

[shut marsh]

(More specifically <t:1747929600:f>)

[patent jacinth]

9 am where

[shut marsh]

It's in Hammertime, it adapts to your timezone

https://hammertime.cyou/en-GB

So that's 9 am for you

For me it's 6 pm

[wraith sphinx]

Not a bad change tbh. Some voicelines do play way too often while others basically never

[summer prairie]

I'm not positive, but I think they may have changed how the main path travel distance is calculated, which could explain why at least in the solo mode I'm not seeing early boss spawns anymore

[plucky flax]

Heard they broke some of my cheat mods

[deft stump]

They did. Less cheating for you.

[plucky flax]

Veri sad I hope modders fix soon

[deft stump]

I mean, Weapon modification totally broke.

[plucky flax]

Time to play staff.

Tbf ogryn weapons not affected they don't need red dot sight

[deft stump]

I mean, if you need a lazer for twin linked... That's some lvl of skill issue.

[plucky flax]

Sry

[minor trout]

Really?

My customizations stayed

[deft stump]

As in, the update broke it due to new weapons added into the files. Should be fine if you updated, I guess.

[late sapphire]

why do they need a discord server for this

its literally just a jumped up timestamp

[nocturne dust]

Well, they had to write that in code so it automatically converts properly in the many, many ways you want it to do it right and not any of the ways it could go wrong

Timestamps are nightmare

[late sapphire]

You mean they called two (2) OS functions

it's unix time

[nocturne dust]

Well, no, because you have to rewrite it

and Discord allows you to rewrite it in many ways

as you can see

It's not like the biggest thing ever, but Discord servers are easy to make and easy to communicate with

Which is why they've replaced the much more useful but less convenient forums 😭

[late sapphire]

Idk man if i see even one more discord server i'm blowing a gasket

[late sapphire]

Nah dude someone else had already done that its a 1 man project

[nocturne dust]

Never said it wasn't

[late sapphire]

One day i will be hired at a company that just directs me to their discord for the onboarding

And i will explode

[nocturne dust]

1 programmer is irrelevant, since you need a space to collect feedback and support those who don't understand the thing

and email isn't cool or hip

[late sapphire]

They invented a thing for that actually

[nocturne dust]

This is how you get core-function-breaking bugs day 1 that aren't fixed for years

[late sapphire]

Nah

[nocturne dust]

Totally is tho

[late sapphire]

They aren't fixed because they are features

I want tablet users to suffer

[nocturne dust]

You assume it is the tablet users that will suffer

[weary crane]

Does BB count as ranged dmg?

[nocturne dust]

yes

[weary crane]

Hmm 5% dmg node isn't useless then

[nocturne dust]

Well, it's kinda eh on whether it will change BPs or not

[summer prairie]

related to a new gun maybe?

[quartz barn]

5% dmg on bb doesnt do a whole lot tho

[nocturne dust]

wat does simultaneous even mean for a gun

[minor trout]

Double barrel machine gun?!

[summer prairie]

both barrels or alternating

[minor trout]

2 barrels

You either use one

Alternate between for more fire rate

Or shoot both at once for big damage

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't sound like a gun I'd enjoy

[quartz barn]

Double barrel shotty already does this

Regular fire is single shot, special is simultanious

[nocturne dust]

oh, so nothing new

[summer prairie]

could just be making it a toggle

[quartz barn]

Knowing fs they probably just updated the code

[summer prairie]

I don't think it's currently being used by anything

[wraith sphinx]

ngl I'm starting to understand the smyker hate

9 out of 10 pub psykers are smykers, even on standard where there's nothing to smite

how hard is it to try something else 😐

so incredibly boring

[nocturne dust]

very

I mean, that's just how psyker is for the vast majority of gamers

Smite is easy, and easy is good