#psyker-class
sour frost
kitty :3
deft stump
I hate my life. Power Matrix Rituals.
wooden sand
<@1007404878383042744> remember one part at a time get the gpu first <:xes_right...
I am not buying a PC
Yet
sour frost
<@1007404878383042744> remember one part at a time get the gpu first <:xes_right...
my gpu is so bad i only see rainbow squares
deft stump
I saw the rainbow squares.
proper osprey
how do i get image perms
Gotta yap more
strange jewel
Empathic evasion should be in all psyker staff builds or it depends on the staff?
proper osprey
Empathic evasion should be in all psyker staff builds or it depends on the staff...
Depends on build and staff
deft stump
I don't think it should be looking like that even with a low end GPU.
proper osprey
Gun pysker, melee psyker, and purg benefit from it the most
proper osprey
Want to use assailt too
Sounds like melee pysker
proper osprey
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373857782788395139/1373861829641502791/i...
Dawg it’s artifacting
I’d recommend looking to find a new one
Unironically
deft stump
Does anyone know how to check if a game using CPU or GPU?
hardy delta
Lol
proper osprey
Does anyone know how to check if a game using CPU or GPU?
Are you silly
Dey use both
hardy delta
Imagine a 40 havoc run with these graphics
deft stump
Dey use both
As GPU. Some CPUs have integrated graphics.
proper osprey
@wooden sand this is what the most expensive part of a pc looks like when it’s dying
deft stump
I'm wondering if he's running on THAT.
proper osprey
As GPU. Some CPUs have integrated graphics.
You have amd correct?
deft stump
They.,
sour frost
I'm helping them to.
ty
proper osprey
i do
Ohhh yeah big dawg you need a new gpu stat, go into bios and send me pics in dms I’ll try to guide you
sour frost
Ohhh yeah big dawg you need a new gpu stat, go into bios and send me pics in dms...
i got one lined up, just saving money for it
proper osprey
@sour frost do you have nivida or amd? For the gpu?
sour frost
<@603704679762755585> do you have nivida or amd? For the gpu?
amd
sour frost
ill figure it out but thanks for offering
proper osprey
You can disable integrated graphics in bios
OR it could unironically just be amd doing amd stuff
The rainbow bubble blinding amd users
Plus on intergraded I doubt you’d even be able to launch it
deft stump
The rainbow bubble blinding amd users
They checked, Anti-lag is off.
proper osprey
They checked, Anti-lag is off.
Anti lag? What the shrimp
What card does he have
I can get more info from dat
deft stump
If the GPU they mentioned is really what it is, game will be blurry at the edges but still look okay.
AMD Radeon RX 580 That's the card they said they have.
proper osprey
DAMM
proper osprey
yeah MAX preformance
On everything
Go into the panel and put everything on max preformance
Turn on xmp in bios
Uhhh
Msi afterburner to squeeze some extra power
Dawg is in the Stone Age
I pray for his machine
proper osprey
Want to use assailt too
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/melee-psyker-27 id do this
uncut sinew
Elektro staff
this is the build i run with assail and seerge (elektrokinetic)
works really well
compliments eachother well too
plucky flax
Surge assail 
plucky flax
Veri based
jade geode
So I'm trying to knock out my last penance for psyker (brainburst boss) and it's private match only... okay... sure, I'll just solo up to a boss on Heresy, easy.
. . . can't launch a private game without a squad.
. . .
Wow, thanks Fatshark. -_-
plucky flax
You're welcome.
uncut sinew
truly one of fatsharks moments
deft stump
So I'm trying to knock out my last penance for psyker (brainburst boss) and it's...
I can get on if you don't have someone else to help you.
atomic swan
So I'm trying to knock out my last penance for psyker (brainburst boss) and it's...
yeah you need a buddy for that
not a bad ideal for penance but a bad execution
back in launch day it doesnt need private match
but you need to deal 90% HP instead of 50% nowdays
which is you need a team for that anyways
fatshark changed it
so instead of complaining about "impossible penance"
ppl complaint cant solo it
wispy bay
There are people playing the game on this discord server, on reddit's one, on other warhammer ones.
You can ask someone here for help, but no, you have to complain about it.
plucky flax
not a bad ideal for penance but a bad execution
back in launch day it doesnt ne...
100% hp
wispy bay
You have to say, type, write here anyway. It is ok to ask for help, no shame about it.
deft stump
You can ask someone here for help, but no, you have to complain about it.
More like, no reply after I offered. MM is easier than Flesh Wound.
jade geode
I can get on if you don't have someone else to help you.
Very kind of you 🙂 Sorry I was AFK at the time.
jade geode
You can ask someone here for help, but no, you have to complain about it.
Yes, I complained about it. Because it deserves to be complained about. It's a stupid implementation; after easing the requirements to 50%, it really didn't even need to be a "private only" penance.
It's not nearly as demanding, or disruptive, as some of the others that are still public-cappable, like the loner penance for Zealot, or the Ogryn penances for ranged weapons that promote excessive and inefficient use of ammo to grind out 1000s of procs of an RNG skill -_-
deft stump
Very kind of you 🙂 Sorry I was AFK at the time.
If you want, i can get on now.
jade geode
If you want, i can get on now.
Thank you! Much appreciated and yes please 🙂
Been a while since I linked up w someone from discord, it's that friend code, right?
The 7054161273 one?
jade geode
yeah XD no prob
deft stump
Ah, Vox or ingame? Doesn't matter either way.
wispy bay
And there you go, just ask people nicely, it is that hard? Now, you talk and play with people, which is pretty much the intention of the achievement, like it or hate it.
plucky flax
Complain to deaf ear
nocturne dust
Venting can be healthy.
wraith sphinx
It's good to vent, but best done with someone who actually gives a shit about you and not to randoms on the internet
mental grail
Socialization bad
jade geode
And there you go, just ask people nicely, it is that hard? Now, you talk and pla...
I queue quickplay literally every time I play.
I don't mind it being an OPTION to do it privately, and I can see why someone might prefer to do it that way.
My issue is with the fact that it's 100% impossible to get in any public lobby, no matter the situation.
That's silly.
mental grail
ill go out of my way to avoid communicating when i have a mic
wraith sphinx
Maybe there's a reason it was made private game only in the first place 
nocturne dust
There was.
It used to be much more obtrusive and hard to do, requiring the team's cooperation because it was like, only BB challenge at one point
quartz barn
Just a flesh wound also resulted in people trolling
thorny blaze
I also agree that there should be some way to make it easy to earn it via only in-game means. Right now you need to use 3rd party tools (eg. discord) to get a kind soul to help you achieve it. And there is no good reason for it.
There is no way to advertise in-game that you are looking for help with this penance, nor is there a way to find people in-game that need such help, essentially forcing people who want earn this penance (which is tied to one of the two non-paid ways to earn cosmetic rewards) to use means not provided by FatShark.
IMO they should remove the private game requirement (easy solution) or implement some way to find like-minded people looking for help with penances in game (very difficult).
in "easy to earn" I don't mean to make it less challenging, just less of a hassle
quartz barn
Also member how flesh wound was bugged on launch? That alone ruined damn lobbies
nocturne dust
I also agree that there should be some way to make it easy to earn it via only i...
Party finder exists literally for this tho
thorny blaze
Party finder exists literally for this tho
and is a dead feature no?
nocturne dust
literally has an option for penances
thorny blaze
noone even proposes you use it
nocturne dust
and is a dead feature no?
well, Fatshark can't exactly force you to use their system
so yes
thorny blaze
they can make it more feasible, however I will bite the bullet and check it regularly to find ppl looking for help
quartz barn
This is a nice example of dev intent vs player interpretation
quartz barn
Because you literally arent meant to do everything solo
nocturne dust
I don't have friends 
quartz barn
People would like to, sure, but at the end of the day its a 4 player co op game
sharp cedar
Hello
plucky flax
and is a dead feature no?
Its only used for havoc pretty much
deft stump
that someone will help
Or just tag me when I'm not literally on mobile. Lul.
You have to deal with a wind tunnel, but it'll be done.
uncut sinew
ran this yesterday in H40, works pretty well, favours narrow maps though
minor trout
Party finder exists literally for this tho
People join party finders?
All I see is like 3 havocs or smth
deft stump
People join party finders?
Yeah, just host a game. YOu'll usually get suspect ppl joining.
Like fresh 30 trying to join H40.
wanton fossil
ran this yesterday in H40, works pretty well, favours narrow maps though
I see so many people using kinetic flayer and not kinetic resonance. Is bb that "useless" in havoc ?
nocturne dust
People join party finders?
seen it on occasion, lol
deft stump
I see so many people using kinetic flayer and not kinetic resonance. Is bb that ...
Cos by the time you have to use it, someone isn't killing the long ranged guys already.
uncut sinew
I see so many people using kinetic flayer and not kinetic resonance. Is bb that ...
i'd rather take kinetic flayer because it's extra passive dmg
plus i'm using aquaman staff so having faster bb isn't useful
nocturne dust
I see so many people using kinetic flayer and not kinetic resonance. Is bb that ...
yes
The KR buff just lasts waaaaaay too short, and BB is just too bad at base for the multipliers to matter despite looking so big.
I was in the process of going through a video of a BB-lover and counting the number of kills that make KR useful and important. I'm only about half way through the video, but it's showing a very bad pattern for KR. Despite purposeful intent to use BB immediately after ability use (so as to make use of KR), only about 3/5ths are even affected by KR, and KR expires before the charge is finished for many. On top of that, many of those kills are unnecessary, since enemies are often in Inferno range or going to be entering Inferno range, and many are trash. Of 52 BB kills, only 5 are making any use of KR, not trash, and not in immediate Inferno range. Only 3 of those 5 are enemies not running into Inferno range. That's in 20 minutes of Havoc gameplay.
tl;dr: BB bad. Very bad (even for Auric). Plz buff.
summer prairie
counterpoint: BB pretty good
mortal sandal
Does lightning get stronger later on or should I give up on making Palpatine?
nocturne dust
counterpoint: BB pretty good
nocturne dust
Does lightning get stronger later on or should I give up on making Palpatine?
Smite is the strongest blitz
also the most boring, but if you like it, use it
jade geode
They should make BB do it's damage over the duration of the channel, rather than all at the end.
IMO this would fix many of the issues it has: People killing the target before pop, unnecessarily delayed target neutralization on weakened targets, removal of "wasted" heat ad time for "overkills" on damaged or weaker targets, etc.
mortal sandal
Smite is the strongest blitz
Idk what those words mean
wind wind
I'll say it again, all of the psykers hexes are mediocre. They are all functional but none excell or shine particularly brightly.
My go to is smite, because "unlimited power cosplay". Thats the depth that should be going into the usage of these
nocturne dust
Idk what those words mean
Smite is the lightning blitz
minor trout
It doesn't feel as satisfying as lightning in battlefront 2 or the force unleashed
nocturne dust
I'll say it again, all of the psykers hexes are mediocre. They are all functiona...
💀
minor trout
It just feels like a PNG gets placed between you and the enemy
And the enemy is just stunned
nocturne dust
The only psyker blitz that is bad is Brainburst. Smite is a monster of CC, and is so good it makes the game trivial.
minor trout
Brain burst is fun.
jade geode
Smite is a poor weapon, but an excellent tool.
nocturne dust
Assail is great as a tool.
minor trout
Assail is just zealot tknives
wind wind
Assail is great as a tool.
Sucks against armor
minor trout
But better in every way
nocturne dust
Smite is a poor _weapon,_ but an excellent _tool._
Eeeeehhhh, smite kills a lot with EP and Vent
nocturne dust
Sucks against armor
Sure. So do most guns
minor trout
Zealot trying to collect knives while psyker automatically generates homing missiles
nocturne dust
So does Inferno
mortal sandal
The only psyker blitz that is bad is Brainburst. Smite is a monster of CC, and i...
I’ve found it’s great for support, and frustrating because my team almost never takes advantage of it
nocturne dust
I’ve found it’s great for support, and frustrating because my team almost never ...
Take advantage of it yourself
Use EP and shriek
nocturne dust
Most guns do fine against flak
Assail does fine against flak
in fact, it does really well against flak
jade geode
People hating on Smite because it doesn't deal much damage... neither do stun grenades, but on one says those are bad.
Pushing does no damage, no one rages about that.
Etc.
If you're smiting just a couple of targets that you could just kill, yes that's a waste of time, but that should be obvious and is a fault of the player, not the ability.
If you're smiting a wall of Crushers and Bulwarks, that's a good use.
nocturne dust
Is there even anything that's solely carapace
crusher
minor trout
People hating on Smite because it doesn't deal much damage... neither do stun gr...
People hate smite cuz it makes the game not fun
nocturne dust
People hating on Smite because it doesn't deal much damage... neither do stun gr...
actually I do
stun grenades bad
Nobody takes them
wind wind
in fact, it does really well against flak
Eh, i never grew warm with it. And taking assail barrs you from using the best node on psykers skilltree
nocturne dust
who even uses anything but tknives on Zealot
nocturne dust
Eh, i never grew warm with it. And taking assail barrs you from using the best n...
Psykinetics is unneeded for Scrier's
jade geode
stun grenades bad
Stun grenades were meta AF in the early game. Albeit back then, most weapons sucked ass so you needed the stun.
minor trout
I would enjoy smite if it felt satisfying to use
minor trout
who even uses anything but tknives on Zealot
Me trying to get penances
nocturne dust
Stun grenades were meta AF in the early game. Albeit back then, most weapons suc...
Sure. Meta changes.
summer prairie
psykinetic is for your whole team though
wind wind
who even uses anything but tknives on Zealot
I do. Because for the life of me i cant Aim the fucking knives so grenades it is
nocturne dust
I remember when Vstrike was meta
mortal sandal
People hating on Smite because it doesn't deal much damage... neither do stun gr...
I just wanna cosplay palpatine. But I feel weak af because the lightning is more of an assistive tool than weapon
nocturne dust
minor trout
Nothing like one shotting a special in the head mid battle cry
summer prairie
people also used surge as a main weapon when it did 200 damage
and insisted it was actually very good
wind wind
Psykinetics is unneeded for Scrier's
Still the best skill tree node in the game. Whole team benefits from it
nocturne dust
Eh.
nocturne dust
Not that good.
And Assail is actually the whole reason it's not that good
Assail is great.
Psykinetics is great.
mental grail
People hating on Smite because it doesn't deal much damage... neither do stun gr...
I use smite and assail because they look cool
minor trout
Throw the knife into the eye of the hound mid pounce like it is the final scene of OG modern warfare 2
nocturne dust
Picking one or the other is the only thing preventing Psyker from eating the universe for breakfast
uncut sinew
who even uses anything but tknives on Zealot
i use flame grenades, haven't needed knives in ages
nocturne dust
i use flame grenades, haven't needed knives in ages
at the cost of your nodes tho
wind wind
Throw the knife into the eye of the hound mid pounce like it is the final scene ...
The ogryn of the team bashing it mid pounce with the pickaxe making it ragdoll over the whole map is also funny as hell
uncut sinew
worth it
nocturne dust
No
uncut sinew
yes
jade geode
I just wanna cosplay palpatine. But I feel weak af because the lightning is more...
Take a shock staff for single target, use Smite for hordes.
Take Empowered Psionics and Warp Rider and your Smite will kill trash mobs, and weaker enemies like shooters if held long enough.
It's not great, but it's usable.
uncut sinew
That's why it's not meta <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
no meta slaves here, only flame grenade enjoyers
mortal sandal
Take a shock staff for single target, use Smite for hordes.
Take Empowered Psion...
Didn’t know there was a shock staff. Thanks
jade geode
People will complain, but Smiting a mixed horde with empowered and thinning out the trash so your team has room to manuver for killing ragers, crushers, etc. is actually helpful.
nocturne dust
Round these parts, it's meta, or nothing
jade geode
Didn’t know there was a shock staff. Thanks
No prob 🙂
nocturne dust
uncut sinew
Wrong chat, Zealot scum
thank god i ain't one
uncut sinew
Round these parts, it's meta, or nothing
what if i do well enough without meta
uncut sinew
Flame grenades on psyker?
yes please
jade geode
Flame grenades on psyker?
That's just Trauma staff w the soulblaze blessing 🤣
nocturne dust
what if i do well enough without meta
Well then you would be a person
One of the most people of all time
nocturne dust
That's just Trauma staff w the soulblaze blessing 🤣
Coruscation staff when
jade geode
Coruscation staff when
Bro... ANY new staff when
nocturne dust
Bro... **_ANY_** new staff when
jade geode
Like... fkin seriously
plucky flax
Failed h40 with burga bubble but won with bubble knight
uncut sinew
makes sense
nocturne dust
Failed h40 with burga bubble but won with bubble knight
plucky flax
Clearly 1 build is better than the other
formal harness
<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Tuna do be a person of all time 
uncut sinew
Tuna do be a person of all time <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
you know it babygirl
nocturne dust
Clearly 1 build is better than the other
The best build for h40 is to get a team of smitekers who only use smite and nothing else, without EP and with Scriers to maximize smite time
no damage needed when you can smite
formal harness
The best build for h40 is to get a team of smitekers who only use smite and noth...
Funnily enough this shit is very effective
If you go venting shriek spam ofc
uncut sinew
but effective
formal harness
that's cheating
31 stacks of burn on everything on sight
nocturne dust
If you go venting shriek spam ofc
specifies scriers
"It's effective if you don't do the thing you said to do"
formal harness
While enemies tweak the fuck out
formal harness
> specifies scriers
"It's effective if you don't do the thing you said to do"
<:...
I wanted to spinoff from your comment, wasn’t exactly a direct response
vernal temple
what the hell 
jade geode
That man drew the short straw, had to ride next to the big man. Obviously.
vernal temple
it's a bot, which makes this even funnier
wraith sphinx
They really should add a new staff that opens portals above enemies and drops comically large pianos onto them
plucky flax
That man drew the short straw, had to ride next to the big man. Obviously.
I bet he smells great 
wispy bay
Piano? What heretical device is that?
wanton fossil
A question for havoc, are there enemies that are imune to the smite stun ?
deft stump
A question for havoc, are there enemies that are imune to the smite stun ?
Elites can be when Final Toll.
summer prairie
the right side tree was originally going to be the gunslinger archetype
wraith sphinx
Why the hell does assail tree have this as it's picture
Technically yes, assail is the best blitz for gun psykers
minor trout
the right side tree was originally going to be the gunslinger archetype
Damn
Gunker is canon ig
Imagine you would infuse the gun with magic to shoot homing rounds or smth
dry gull
Imagine you would infuse the gun with magic to shoot homing rounds or smth
Or make your bullets explode? Idk. Could be cool
jade geode
I mean... you kinda do?
Like, that tree is full of buffs that you could interpret as like... using your psyker abilities to be more accurate or hit harder.
vernal temple
Why the hell does assail tree have this as it's picture
ngl that artwork goes hard. I wish psykers actually had a cosmetic with this much tubes sticking out of their head. full Perturabo/Angron style
plucky flax
wraith sphinx
jovial juniper
I mean... you _kinda_ do?
Like, that tree is full of buffs that you could interp...
Which isn't enough for the gun psyker fantasy
Warp Splitting fits the magic gun fantasy and that's it
Well
Surety of Arms is basically a body enhancement
Oddly high amounts of Biomancy on this tree
rigid sky
Tbh, the fact that my gun is magically dealing more damage the more funni blue bois I kill and the more peril I get and the longer I stay in Scrier's feels gun psykery to me
but I suppose it doesn't feel that different from an e stance MF vet
(just better in melee and better generally lol)
plucky flax
Psyker is racist against blue men
dry ivy
Well
Surety of Arms is basically a body enhancement
"I want weapon specialist"
We have weapon specialist at home
weapon specialist at home:
jovial juniper
I got nothing against "Doing more damage" type of deal
But as a psyker
https://tenor.com/view/what-thats-it-thats-it-is-that-it-thats-all-mr-krabs-gif-11403128690757374518
patent steeple
"I want weapon specialist"
We have weapon specialist at home
*weapon specialist ...
those 2 talents together are much better than Weapon Specialist imo because Weapon Specialist is much less accessible.
dry ivy
if you say so ig
plucky flax
I've never ever used surety of arm
quartz barn
Weapon specialists usefullness really depends on your weapons
dry ivy
I've never ever used surety of arm
it's mid when i've tried it
psyker doesn't have any weapons that really make good use of it outside of boltgun
jovial juniper
I've never ever used surety of arm
The funny shotgun special shot spam build
10/10 recommend
plucky flax
I see
jovial juniper
With the extra 10% reload perk
plucky flax
Maybe for some trial meme
jovial juniper
rigid sky
The free crits talent is too good if you're going that way
wraith sphinx
I've never ever used surety of arm
I tried to at first but wasn't worth it
being high peril almost all the time means surety of arms will never proc when you actually need it
rigid sky
um, that force greatsword with gaze and dd... it kinda annihilates bosses?
didn't expect it to kill something faster than my gun could
just had one of the most enjoyable 1-2-vegs of my life
plucky flax
You didn't know? A thurst weakspot on mk6 against bonbon can deal like 15k hp damage
jovial juniper
The rule of thumb is that stabs deal lots of damage
patent steeple
The rule of thumb is that stabs deal lots of damage
except for the knife (not the ogryn one)
rigid sky
I didn't even plan on using the sword for bosses much though lol, I took the 8 as a flexible anti-everything annihilator with the plan on drilling bosses down with a vraks 5
I should probably try the 6 at some point but I love how braindead and powerful the 8 is
plucky flax
Mk6 with proper combo and technique can horde clear as well as 8 but better single target damage
Mk8 is easier tho just light spam for horde
rigid sky
What's the trick with the mark 6? Just block cancel every third swing?
summer prairie
yeah no one does that without macros
tawny zodiac
Which elite would you guys say is easiest to suicide bomb?
summer prairie
might as well not mention it
proper osprey
Mk6 with proper combo and technique can horde clear as well as 8 but better sing...
What’s the combo on 6?
plucky flax
I do it in real game. Not all the time but often enough during chaffs horde
plucky flax
What’s the combo on 6?
Light light light block
plucky flax
I dont use macro for fgs
jovial juniper
Which elite would you guys say is easiest to suicide bomb?
Honestly
Shotgunners
1k hp
Will swap to melee if you have your melee out
So you can take an Illisi
Slash him a bit
Then spam special until you pop
tawny zodiac
Dope. I'll save that for last then. Still gotta complete the Defy Fate and MM penances
plucky flax
Can also naturally do swap combo with assails weaving too it's not hard like quell cancel
tawny zodiac
Honestly I'm rather surprised by how quickly I've closed the book on the Psyker's list. Beginning to wonder if Zealotry isn't my calling
minor trout
"I want weapon specialist"
We have weapon specialist at home
*weapon specialist ...
Holy shit that does sound great
Especially the reload one
If you don't have staff u won't have much peril anyway
That's like +30% reload speed at basically no cost
Maybe I should play gunker
jovial juniper
Honestly I'm rather surprised by how quickly I've closed the book on the Psyker'...
Probably Zealot penances not rewarding for simply playing the game
deft stump
If you don't have staff u won't have much peril anyway
Unless you have Assail, heh.
minor trout
Unless you have Assail, heh.
Just shoot the gun instead smh smh
Bring double barrel
With both barrels
What, 1 second reload?
dry ivy
Especially the reload one
it's ass
minor trout
Gotta live my bullet hose fantasy
dry ivy
you don't really get as much use out of it as you'd like
minor trout
I am too used to just dashing around as zealot sadly
wanton fossil
What is the best way to deal boss damage as a psyker in havoc (please don't say "your team")
minor trout
Brain burst? Idk
deft stump
What is the best way to deal boss damage as a psyker in havoc (please don't say ...
Gunker scriers.
dry ivy
scriers gaze with autogun/recon lasgun
if you're dead set on using a staff then electrokinetic or voidstrike probably
wanton fossil
Not realy my prefered playstile but well... 
jovial juniper
What is the best way to deal boss damage as a psyker in havoc (please don't say ...
It's going to come down to you shooting
Or stabbing
deft stump
Any automated gun with finesse works. Just aim at hed and brrrrrrrrrrrrr.
jovial juniper
Since this is havoc
dry ivy
Not realy my prefered playstile but well... <:sweat1:716777775515828316>
what? it's just veteran but better
jovial juniper
Stabbing
wanton fossil
what? it's just veteran but better
Interesting point of view 
deft stump
Or no finesse, still same, you crit like half the time anyway.
minor trout
what? it's just veteran but better
Maybe veteran isn't their preferred playstyle
dry ivy
Interesting point of view <:9thinkLuz1:693263770440695850>
it's just correct 🙂
jovial juniper
If you're running Inferno
Puff the boss a little
tawny zodiac
Probably Zealot penances not rewarding for simply playing the game
That said, I am not a solid Shroudfielder
jovial juniper
Then stab
dry ivy
veteran fatter than an ogryn fr
minor trout
Why is a trained guardsman so much slower and has less stamina than a magician and a crazy preacher
wanton fossil
Why is he so slow
I only have 200 hours in darktide ok
minor trout
Faith and magic are better than working out?
minor trout
I only have 200 hours in darktide ok
I am talking about veteran
wanton fossil
Oh ^^
deft stump
IDK, confuses me when ppl play better classes and expect me to clutch on my vet.
jovial juniper
Oh no but you see
Veteran has to carry all this gear
minor trout
The class runs out of stamina after 5 steps bruh
minor trout
Oh no but you see
Veteran has to carry all this gear
What fucking gear?!
jovial juniper
While zealot carries this really fucking heavy Eviscerator
Running at the speed of light
minor trout
While zealot carries this really fucking heavy Eviscerator
And a giant flamer
jovial juniper
deft stump
What fucking gear?!
Near inf 'nades.
jovial juniper
While also covered in thick chains
minor trout
Near inf 'nades.
He just manifests them
minor trout
While also covered in thick chains
Purity seals make you fit and strong fr
Fuck training
tawny zodiac
I feel like in the world of WH, the grace of God-Emperor and wielding the Force probably would provide stronger trunk muscles for running
jovial juniper
Yeah zealots are peak athletes on steroids
tawny zodiac
Not with all that bam in your yam
minor trout
Zealot is so fast it isn't even funny anymore
Me popping 2 chastise charges just to get to the console faster than the other guy and do the objective
Or just catch up to someone
Or just for fun
upper sun
chat did i dodge this?
uncut sinew
yes, also damn the game looks nice on high graphics
upper sun
ive seen a lot higher tbh
uncut sinew
ray tracing go brr
tawny zodiac
Me popping 2 chastise charges just to get to the console faster than the other g...
Never mention the secret third charge that readies itself "when the time is right"
uncut sinew
but i still get around 100fps, 60'ish during dense hordes
minor trout
Never mention the secret third charge that readies itself "when the time is righ...
I always have one whenever I need it
If I don't I will just frantically spam it until smth happens
tawny zodiac
Me with the Psyker shield at this rate, as I seem to just forget that I have it
I usually bring up the rear guard and head-pop anything that glows or roars
minor trout
I forget my knives
tawny zodiac
Weaponized knifeplay. What a kink
minor trout
I will zealot you
tawny zodiac
There goes that Chastise charge
plucky flax
I play on max graphics but the ui is also maxed out 
tawny zodiac
So you're just looking at Path of Exile the entire time
That said, my subtitles cover half the screen 24/7. I'm over here reading Darktide
plucky flax
Darktide for blind deaf mute gamer.
upper sun
That said, my subtitles cover half the screen 24/7. I'm over here *reading* Dark...
based lore enjoyer
2nd report i made today about beasts of nurgle
i will keep it up until they remove them from the game
tawny zodiac
A shame I have to rip and tear through however many Mortis Trials to even get a taste of it
tawny zodiac
2nd report i made today about beasts of nurgle
Sometimes I wonder how many chungus jokes are made about the Nurgle faction per day
jovial juniper
That said, my subtitles cover half the screen 24/7. I'm over here *reading* Dark...
Bro's playing a visual novel
😭
tawny zodiac
"You encounter a Pox Hound. Do you dodge or shoot?"
Turns to page 54
"Game over"
deft stump
>"You encounter a Pox Hound. Do you dodge or shoot?"
>Turns to page 54
>"Game ov...
Missing roll a dice to see if "ally" saves you.
tawny zodiac
Bro's playing a visual novel
"Doki Doki Sororitas Club" would go hella hard
smoky stag
strike party 1 if fellow psykers wanna watch a psyker play
deft stump
"Doki Doki Sororitas Club" would go hella hard
You get shot. Game crashes.
tawny zodiac
Missing roll a dice to see if "ally" saves you.
They were too busy dissociating on Twitter anyway
deft stump
They were too busy dissociating on Twitter anyway <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
Or ehm. If you have "friends", turn to another page.
tawny zodiac
It's just a bunch of blank pages
"Waiting for connection..."
deft stump
Roll to see who helps you.
jovial juniper
"Doki Doki Sororitas Club" would go hella hard
listening to the battle sister describe gruesome ways to kill heretics while having the biggest smile on her face
deft stump
1 is a flamer burning your arse off. You take more damage but may survive.
tawny zodiac
> listening to the battle sister describe gruesome ways to kill heretics while h...
Gotta love the irony of a religious fanatic have a chaotic grin
deft stump
> listening to the battle sister describe gruesome ways to kill heretics while h...
Isn't that just burn, Burn, BURN, B.U.R.N.?
marble crater
2nd report i made today about beasts of nurgle
Why?
plucky flax
Sometimes the puke does in fact get through the bubble if you're very close to the edge of bubble.
It's annoying.
Dunno clad's issue tho just my annoyance with bonbon.
marble crater
So bubble is worthless now
upper sun
Why? <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
more bugs
marble crater
Yeah but what kind though
narrow herald
Bro's playing a visual novel
wanton fossil
this works in low havoc, lets see how it holds up in high havoc https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ef31819-5cb8-44ea-8ce8-53ca228e74ef/curent-psyker-in-havoc
analog agate
Gross build
patent steeple
btw, after trying the light light light block combo for horde clear on mk6 FGS instead of the push light sweeping-heavy combo, I can safely say the former is much easier for me to pull off consistently...
verbal thistle
smite in a nutshell
prime elk
i hope bro has a plan for enraged elites
analog agate
i hope bro has a plan for enraged elites
He is going to use his surge VB staff on em
verbal thistle
wraith sphinx
verbal thistle
sullen gale
wanton fossil
i hope bro has a plan for enraged elites
Voidblast will do the trick
plucky flax
I believe in you
inland oasis
White fire from psyker staff - does this count as 'soulflame' for the purposes of psyker perks?
Because the soulflame effect looks almost identical
plucky flax
Yes
frozen fiber
wondering if I should move the dump stat to collateral, gun really doesn't have stagger
strong gulch
The dump is collateral. If you're broke, this is fine until you get the mats.
frozen fiber
600k mats, make a new one quick, thanks
narrow herald
wanton fossil
wondering if I should move the dump stat to collateral, gun really doesn't have...
My dumb stat always was mobilety but everybody else says koleteral
steady yarrow
damn, 1h force sword and deflector is actually kind of good.
wanton fossil
damn, 1h force sword and deflector is actually kind of good.
1h?
verbal thistle
Really good for havoc
wanton fossil
What variant are you using
patent jacinth
this works in low havoc, lets see how it holds up in high havoc <:sweat1:7167777...
Do they know?
wanton fossil
Do they know what?
patent jacinth
Surge doesn’t work on voidblast
It only affects the m1 attacks
Also, obligatory Eww smite
Ep smite too
Gross
placid rover
u guys know some good psyker gameplays on yt for havoc 40?
autumn lark
@verbal thistle
verbal thistle
ummm
I dont have a havoc psyker vid
but I have solos
staff psyker
melee psyker
placid rover
any flame staff gameplays?
verbal thistle
not from me
placid rover
i'll have a look at these ty
placid rover
based
upper sun
agent to the rescue
placid rover
thx, emperor bless
upper sun
autumn lark
https://www.youtube.com/@AgentChaosMeme
Agent noob...
upper sun
Agent noob...
noobato........
placid rover
whats the general opinion on force sword vs duelling sword?
jovial juniper
Cool psyker vs eh psyker
Then we have Obscurus and Deimos that can do what DS does
And the force Greatsword which same thing but worse dodges
But better horde clear due to warp slash
wooden sand
whats the general opinion on force sword vs duelling sword?
Both aren't the same
Its like comparing a truck to the Titanic
brazen warren
DS does armor pen and dodges passively inside its moveset, 1h force sword has worse dodges and a delay on its armor pen attacks that also does not kill in 1-2 hits consistently
you can make em work but its just a less smooth experience, up to you
placid rover
as I understand it, for inferno staff, it's really important to apply uncanny as well
brazen warren
I like the force greatsword just for the animation set and feel, I run it full crit to get passive armor pen and better mass management (it will only do damage to a few targets, but wont slow down or bounce off things if the swing is a crit, allowing you to swing more quickly overall)
placid rover
but I was wondering if the force sword can accomplish the same thing in addition to having the deflect
and if it's just as good for bosses
placid rover
I like the force greatsword just for the animation set and feel, I run it full c...
i'm the same with the DS. i tried other weapons and nothing feels as good to me with how absurd the DS is
jovial juniper
Force Swords have Uncanny Strike (except Greatsword)
So yeah you can do the same set up
And even stack it faster than DS with Obscurus/Deimos special attack to a weakspot
Not that we recommend using their special attack
💀
placid rover
gonna have to try this out
ivory monolith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOZfSuWsAyI
who is playing on 120° is not human
wanton fossil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGbstLGzbk
this makes me wanna use the force sword ^^
rich spindle
I like Deimos more than ds for havoc because of deflector
patent steeple
btw, I have started considering running a Momentum + Wrath mk6 FGS on gunker, just because DS4 just didn't solve my problem of dying when forced into any melee situation due to DS4's horde clear not being good enough for me...
upper sun
maybe pair it with purge it has great clear
patent steeple
maybe pair it with purge it has great clear
but I was talking about gunker, not purge staff builds...
rich spindle
U gotta mix in a bunch of assails w ds
patent steeple
U gotta mix in a bunch of assails w ds
well... the fact I have yet to get a DS of any kind with perfect stats surely doesn't help...
the closest ones I have to perfect stat rolls always have 63% in Cleave Damage...
rich spindle
That’s good!
patent steeple
That’s good!
its 3% too much, as I'd need those 3% to go into either damage, pen or finesse...
rich spindle
Nah 3% off is good to go
brazen warren
I run smite for utility on my gunker, and the aoe damage is enough to make hordes like butter to the DS
rich spindle
Player skill >>>> weapon stats
brazen warren
channel, cancel to knock them down, swing away with the damage boost
nocturne dust
3% off is worthless trash, if it ain't perfect you gotta dump it like the filthy loser weapon it is 
proper osprey
I’ve been really eyeing the illis for melee psyker in havoc
Was gonna run uncanny and riposte with it
The fgs is so good tho
I’m really struggling with choices
nocturne dust
Well, one of those is a great, varied weapon with a powerful special and lots of versatility and horde clear. The other is Illisi.
Also, Illisi kinda needs slaughterer sooooo
you may have trouble horde clearing on the horde clearing weapon without its blessing dependency
proper osprey
It friggin poopy
The crit will not help?
Hmmmm
Damm is it’s just fgs or nothing
plucky flax
u guys know some good psyker gameplays on yt for havoc 40?
Nah it's impossible.
placid rover
LMFAO
plucky flax
I am fake
upper sun
its tru i carried agent in sedition+
plucky flax
Thank you meister 
plucky flax
Sry was me
plucky flax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGbstLGzbk
This guy is pretty good to survive in havoc 40. Must be luck tho psyker still bad.
rich spindle
I’ve been really eyeing the illis for melee psyker in havoc
Goes incredibly hard
Skip uncanny and go executor
patent steeple
btw, I think I have found a decent way to alleviate some parts of my survivability issues in hordes while using DS4 as gunker: swapping out Riposte in favour of Rampage.
I know its not the best or the most preferable solution, but it works for me...
proper osprey
Skip uncanny and go executor
Saw that don’t your stacks disappear if you miss though?
strong gulch
btw, I think I have found a decent way to alleviate some parts of my survivabili...
Have you tried DS2?
patent steeple
Have you tried DS2?
yes, and I found the carapace dmg to be slightly too bad on it...
proper osprey
Show me a vid @rich spindle
proper osprey
Possibly
strong gulch
yes, and I found the carapace dmg to be slightly too bad on it...
It is a little single target DPS loss, if you H1 special loop, but it's by no means bad. It's lights and your mention of horde survivability is why I was wondering. If ramage on DS4 works for you, then it works.
proper osprey
I have a date
strong gulch
No game for me.
upper sun
prolly for the best
im gonna do my favorite dt passtime
auric until sleeping meds kick in
jovial juniper
I’ve been really eyeing the illis for melee psyker in havoc
Hope you like activating heavy activating heavy activating he
With Warp Splitting
proper osprey
Hope you like activating heavy activating heavy activating he
Just like power sword
Das what I do wif it
proper osprey
jovial juniper
You can also throw an activated light there
proper osprey
illisi is kinda mid
It’s like that hsword, Rashad, tac axe, and illis im trying to make work on melee psyker in havoc
I wanna use something besides those two
jovial juniper
The important part is that you power Illisi up
(it should act like Relic Blade tbh)
Because with Slaughterer stacked you can basically kill 3-4 groaners/walkers outside of havoc
As long as powered
rich spindle
I only really activate for fun or if there’s bunched up bruisers
jovial juniper
The damage distribution is just way better on active attacks
rich spindle
Yeah I just prefer to stay safe by keeping everything staggered with heavies
jovial juniper
Which is why I'm hereby requesting that Illisi should be like Relic Blade heat gauge
Certainly that wouldn't be op
rich spindle
That would be cooler
jovial juniper
Which is why I'm hereby requesting that Illisi should be like Relic Blade heat g...
But peril based of course
rich spindle
Illisi is my fav scriers melee
jovial juniper
But peril based of course
Then you get Scriers and shove so much Crack (of Bone) up your ass to keep peril in check
rich spindle
The horizontals are so powerful
nocturne dust
Certainly that wouldn't be op
You could give it 100% uptime and it wouldn't be OP
jovial juniper
When you quell so much peril the only real option is to overdose on it
buoyant maple
illisi is kinda mid
not "kinda mid"
its horde clear is very overrated
upper sun
not "kinda mid"
its horde clear is very overrated
psyker doesnt really have good melee hoard clear imo
like psyker only weapons
verbal thistle
guh?
upper sun
like if you wanna clear with fgs as well as zealot weapons you kinda have to break your fingers blitz cancelling
buoyant maple
like psyker only weapons
FGS mk8 light spam is 15s vs 50 pox
with warp slash, 8.7s
upper sun
or use the special once
i said melee
buoyant maple
illisi is 18.5s
verbal thistle
thats a melee weapon
upper sun
illisi has a bunch of patch13 relics
like the bad cleave distribution and the ass attack speed
upper sun
so many weapons still have shit like cleave, equip speed, maniac damage thats still balanced for pre maelstrom
verbal thistle
"but we need new weapons!!!"
upper sun
i will literally die if i dont get a poweraxe this week(metaphorically)
buoyant maple
yea give me power axe on veteran
veteran exclusive power axe with 4000 unyielding dmg in 1 activated overhead
upper sun
its rashad but with an active @buoyant maple
buoyant maple
its rashad but with an active <@366562874039992331>
kinda
rashad dmg not good for expanded health pool
upper sun
so tru king
buoyant maple
no off mode
upper sun
so tru
cursive thorn
what attack chain do i want to use on electrostrike
weary idol
nice to be appreciated
wraith sphinx
nice to be appreciated
It's so rare too compared to the rest of the classes
weary idol
yeah the "max damage" builds for all the classes are p rare except zealot
because it's zealots only real build
wraith sphinx
People just expect me to delete every enemy in sight or be a useless piece of shit, best I usually get is a thanks for a clutch revive
weary idol
gunlugger and left tree vet are also rare and pull crazy numbers too when played well
wraith sphinx
The most interesting remark I remember getting was one ogryn player calling me a witch with honour because I was the first auric mael psyker he encountered that didn't have smite
placid rover
randomly formed a 4 psyker team in party finder, but we threw the mission on the final boss
it was 10% hp too
solemn atlas
Why in any circumstance should I use penetrating flame over warp nexus?
verbal thistle
only if someone else is running a blaze trauma
even then it doesnt help that much
solemn atlas
Even for solo play
Does it even help at all against armor/bosses??
verbal thistle
blaze still does more damage
by the time you stack enough brittleness to do more damage then blaze the target will be low hp
weary idol
only if someone else is running a blaze trauma
and EVEN THEN
just use voidblast lol
gets more brittleness
and crowd control
cursive thorn
is dukane trying to flirt with morrow? 😭
solemn atlas
Can I make any improvements to this? My problem atm is boss damage I think
prime elk
Take a gun or use force great sword
wispy bay
Nah, she wants to make sure that Morrow doesn't shoot her as well.
placid rover
could ditch deflection for kinetic resonance but the damage is not that great (at least ur safe), or take DS lol
solemn atlas
could ditch deflection for kinetic resonance but the damage is not that great (a...
I will solo tank dh with KD so I'm good
solemn atlas
Take a gun or use force great sword <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
Knife
Mobility
prime elk
Knife
Mobility
Well can’t have it all unless you want to sell your soul to DS
solemn atlas
Hmmm
prime elk
True precog does funny things to bosses
cursive thorn
Can I make any improvements to this? My problem atm is boss damage I think
is warp resistance supposed to be so low
solemn atlas
I could probably swap Cara for unyielding after changing the blessings
solemn atlas
is warp resistance supposed to be so low
Yes
prime elk
is warp resistance supposed to be so low
Helps build peril faster
solemn atlas
is that like a thing in general on psyker weapons
Funny number goes up higher
wooden sand
is that like a thing in general on psyker weapons
Its dump stat
prime elk
Which means more damage
strong gulch
Why in any circumstance should I use penetrating flame over warp nexus?
In havocs, and pen flame inferno user + a rending shockwave VB user is the main one. The PF 20% stacks on top of other sources of brittleness. It's the only way to go to 60%.
Outside of that is basically vibes. If you don't edge your perils and you use bubble, nexus doesn't offer as much as it does in a different build.
PF has slightly better boss DPS, but in a balanced team comp, boss DPS is not a psyker's job.
solemn atlas
Can I make any improvements to this? My problem atm is boss damage I think
So on my flame staff if I were to change unyielding what would I change it for? Elites?
solemn atlas
In havocs, and pen flame inferno user + a rending shockwave VB user is the main ...
I'm trying to make solo bossing a little easier in high havoc because I was not gonna fight a beast of nurgle for 10mins
strong gulch
So on my flame staff if I were to change unyielding what would I change it for? ...
Keep unyielding and swap crit to flak
jovial juniper
Why in any circumstance should I use penetrating flame over warp nexus?
If you have premades, a psyker with pen flames, a vet with exploit weakness and other two with just generic Brittleness
There you go
80% brittleness on a target
(the target might die before you even stack all brittleness lol)
strong gulch
There is a cap at 40% with the exception of the 20% from PF that can go on top.
So 60% if a PF user is there. Otherwise 40%.
strong gulch
@buoyant maple Is this true? Vet's EW can take brittlness to 80%?
40% general + 20% PF and +20% from EW??
buoyant maple
<@366562874039992331> Is this true? Vet's EW can take brittlness to 80%?
yea it's a different type of brittleness
critical brittleness, if u will
strong gulch
Inch res ting
buoyant maple
Inch res ting
weary idol
https://imgur.com/a/ThLCDz7 never fuckin' taking the bolt pistol off again
jovial juniper
Another 500 bulwarks
weary idol
anyways I then almost clutched again by soloing the twins but then forgot to dodge and fluoride stared directly at a crusher overheading me
sad days
https://imgur.com/a/0rC3xIK funny ragdoll
rich spindle
I haven’t seen 80% on my debuff mod yet
nocturne dust
https://imgur.com/a/ThLCDz7 never fuckin' taking the bolt pistol off again
I will be forever upset that blazing spirit does not work with the FGS special
rich spindle
Guess not enough vets take that talent
weary idol
Guess not enough vets take that talent
which talent?
rich spindle
Exploit weakness
rich spindle
80% rending dots sound very fun
weary idol
20% brittleness is nothing for most of vets good weapons, and isn't enough to help their bad ones
plus short duration
plus melee only
plus has to be a crit
nocturne dust
80% rending dots sound very fun
Uncanny Soulblaze but worse
rich spindle
Nah
nocturne dust
Uncanny is 120%
prime elk
rich spindle
That’s why nobody takes it
Wow
rich spindle
?
buoyant maple
80% rending dots sound very fun
it'd only matter for carapace and not matter enough in the end
rich spindle
I haven’t seen that number before, is the thing
nocturne dust
it'd only matter for carapace and not matter enough in the end
You just have to nerf yourself with bad weapons to fix that
get some awful ADMs
nocturne dust
so you're saying we need new weapons with bad ADMs because clearly rending is an underutilized part of the game that nobody uses
nocturne dust
CRIT Heavy Sword
jovial juniper
There, 20% brittleness to deal with Carapace
buoyant maple
so you're saying we need new weapons with bad ADMs because clearly rending is an...
rending and brittleness are overrated by most people
especially brittleness
vast majority massively overestimate the "team aspect" of brittleness
nocturne dust
brittleness yes, but rending from uncanny is just too easy when crushers are the big threat
and it lets you donk mauler heads which is nice
buoyant maple
uncanny needs to get nuked
rich spindle
Truth nuke
nocturne dust
sure
buoyant maple
nerf to 20% at max stacks, Mrending only
nocturne dust
Blessings not working on unintended additional parts of the kit? Impossible
Fatshark would never
buoyant maple
it's not "unintended"
they just didn't invent Mrending when making uncanny strike lol
nocturne dust
Well, they hit it with the hammer once to try to get rid of it, so I think it is kind of unintended
buoyant maple
if it was unintended it would have been changed to Mrending by now
buoyant maple
yea there's ur answer
nocturne dust
Same situation with how they fixed LMB spam
prime elk
Well, maybe they're just dumb
Prob true
buoyant maple
psyker nerf is very welcome
prime elk
I think the current state of ogryn is fatshart just letting ogryn mains invent a new tree for themselves
prime elk
“Why yes, we should let ogryn mains decide on ogryn balance, wcgw”
buoyant maple
could have nuked psyker staff atk speed yes
nocturne dust
Well, it wouldn't have nuked atk speed except for what the ICD applies to
which would be LMB, because that is the main issue
nocturne dust
ICD the attack
buoyant maple
nuking quell cancel is easier and a more transformative nerf to psyker
now they only need 80 nerfs
instead of 81
nocturne dust
I don't think it is easier?
It also doesn't really transform anything
like, we still have weapon swapping
the only thing that happened is people who use the staves normally now get annoyed sometimes by the stickiness of quelling
nocturne dust
I'll remember this conversation when they nerf vet
buoyant maple
some aspects def need to be nerfed on veteran
nocturne dust
I'm sure they'll do the totally-right thing and nerf Vet's stamina.
buoyant maple
I'm sure they'll do the totally-right thing and nerf Vet's stamina.
nah
they can't even buff veteran right
given their last patch
tawny zodiac
I'll remember this conversation when they nerf vet
I'll remember this conversation when they increase empowered psionics by 5% probability
nocturne dust
EP does need adjustments
buoyant maple
but psyker fr needs somewhere like 80 nerfs
tawny zodiac
More head bops, please. Can never have too many
nocturne dust
Not the ones Fatshark will give it tho, I'm sure
tawny zodiac
Gotta say, I'm still relatively new to the terminologies of this game. Haven't played Vet yet either. Is this really so scuffed?
Granted, I'm all for discouraging players from going the CoD route, but damn
nocturne dust
but psyker fr needs somewhere like 80 nerfs
Fatshark is looking at the stats, and since Psykers die the quickest on average and contribute the least, they're totally bad and need buffs
nocturne dust
Gotta say, I'm still relatively new to the terminologies of this game. Haven't p...
wdym
tawny zodiac
I blame the primal desire to bank a fat kill count
buoyant maple
Gotta say, I'm still relatively new to the terminologies of this game. Haven't p...
veteran has least number of ways to be top tier performer
psyker kit is entirely busted
zealot has 1.5 good kits but that 1.5 good kits is overpowered
ogryn can casually build to do 400+% of his base melee dmg
nocturne dust
Ogryn is the most busted rn
nocturne dust
Psyker is in a weird spot where for noobs they're very weak, but get exponentially stronger the more enemies and the more investment they have.
buoyant maple
zealot needs ~5 nerfs and a lot of buffs in his underused talents, and a tree structure rework
veteran needs ~5 nerfs and a lot of buffs in his underused talents, and a tree structure rework
nocturne dust
Basically, every class has overperforming and underperforming builds, with underperforming being the majority for Vet and Zealot, whereas Ogryn and Psyker can kinda just do whatever and overperform as long as you follow a loose logic.
Psyker doesn't really need 80 nerfs tho More like... 15 choice ones.
buoyant maple
Psyker doesn't really need 80 nerfs tho <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> More l...
80 is getting into the details of it
nocturne dust
I guess it depends what you mean by an individual nerf
buoyant maple
like
nerfing soulblaze base dmg, and nerfing soulblaze ADM
are considered 2 nerfs to me, because they're 2 diff things in terms of code
so that adds up to ~80 of them
nocturne dust
but see, I'd lump both those and more into 'nerf soulblaze'
Although, not sure soulblaze damage needs to be nerfed, but rather the application of it needs to be adjusted.
buoyant maple
nah, nerf 20%
tawny zodiac
So...
- Vets and Zeals are easiest to pick up, with the latter being far more versatile and effective
- Psykers are hardest to understand, but arguably have the greatest endgame potential
- Ogryn do funnee bonk and problem sovled
Do I have that right?
buoyant maple
So...
- Vets and Zeals are easiest to pick up, with the latter being far more v...
no
in terms of skill curve
nocturne dust
20% is pretty big tho, and destroys every non-Inferno soulblaze build, no?
buoyant maple
ogryn is easiest but spikes up in skill requirement as difficulty goes up
psyker is hard at the beginning but plateaus later on
veteran skill curve is very consistently high demand because u always lose ~80% of ur dmg on non-weakspot hits
nocturne dust
Vet has highest skill requirement, Ogryn is easy and stays easy, you just need to learn to dodge nets.
buoyant maple
zealot just needs to know the basic game mechanics (which are ~20 pages, but all classes should know this anyway) to do well
buoyant maple
also to play veteran properly well
u probably need to do some maths
(same goes for ogryn)
nocturne dust
You don't need math, you just follow the people who do the math
prime elk
u probably need to do some maths
Explains why I’m shit at vet
tawny zodiac
u probably need to do some maths
Ah, yes. My Warframe days prepared me for this
nocturne dust
It's just for BPs
buoyant maple
Ah, yes. My Warframe days prepared me for this
nocturne dust
which you don't have to calculate if you test everything individually like a psychopath
like me
buoyant maple
the first 10 seconds are enough to prepare u to do maths
tawny zodiac
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1043910914027561000/1373162437305696276...
Yep. Just like the good ol' days.
buoyant maple
fortunately
psyker is very simple
u don't need to learn how to aim
or do maths
u can just focus on being broken
nocturne dust
Path spreading lies
buoyant maple
buoyant maple
u can do well with gun psyker even playing at 60hz vsync with a controller
buoyant maple
not sure wat the vsync has to do with it
makes the game run at like 500ms input delay
tawny zodiac
I just use Brain Rupture on a swivel from afar and that usually keeps my squad happy
nocturne dust
makes the game run at like 500ms input delay
buoyant maple
I've tried it before when I had a super old monitor from 2012
buoyant maple
<:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
it makes mouse aiming feel like playing with a controller
constantly overshooting my aim
I do not recommend
nocturne dust
Anyway, since you're familiar with Warframe, you can think of Psykers as shield-gaters, and Ogryns as HP tanks that actually work
flint jungle
Would anyone be able to recommend me which Force Sword variant and blessings I should take if I'm leaning into a VS staff build with a focus on swapping to melee to quell and horde clear? Also making use of crit talents. I main Veteran and am trying to make a similar build I like using on Vet.
nocturne dust
You shouldn't be swapping to melee to quell unless you're using By Crack of Bone
sturdy reef
psyker is easy
flint jungle
That's the idea
nocturne dust
Use Force Greatsword
Either mk works
Both are very generalist weapons that are good at almost anything you throw them at, including horde
flint jungle
kk
buoyant maple
Would anyone be able to recommend me which Force Sword variant and blessings I s...
obscurus mk2 force sword, or either of the force greatswords
deimos mk4 force sword is very single target orientated
sturdy reef
dw
nocturne dust
The normal Force Swords are possible, but Illisi is 'the horde clear' one and it's... icky
sturdy reef
you dont need to really do maffs here
can kinda eyeball it then unga bunga
like wf
nocturne dust
Obscurus is a middleground between horde clear and single target
Some people like it a whole lot.
But you need to know its combos
buoyant maple
obscurus is super simple
sturdy reef
^
buoyant maple
which means it's super complicated for the avg psyker player
sturdy reef
its animations are just weird
nocturne dust
obscurus is super simple
well then explain it for the noob 
flint jungle
Can Greatsword make effective use of weakspots and crits like normal Force Sword while being more horde focused? Or does it trade precision for just generalized clear ability?
sturdy reef
Heavy -> light ->light for armored enemies
nocturne dust
Can Greatsword make effective use of weakspots and crits like normal Force Sword...
every melee wants weakspots
buoyant maple
well then explain it for the noob <:laspistol:865679890325831730>
H1 + L2 + L3 for single target
L1 + [H2 + L] for horde
it's abt as easy as it gets
flint jungle
I've learned some weapons have a much easier time hitting weakspots
At least for me
buoyant maple
Can Greatsword make effective use of weakspots and crits like normal Force Sword...
greatsword's horde clear is mid tier outside of warp slash
nocturne dust
You run wrath on it