psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

sure, but you're also fighting 3 others for a full 50% of the healthbar

[steady torrent]

Well you say that assail is better than bb?

[weary idol]

come on you've seen randoms

[nocturne dust]

BB is the weakest blitz and it's not close

[weary idol]

they're probably already dead on the pavement to a single rager

[weary idol]

BB is narrowly avoiding being the worst blitz in the game because Kinetic Flayer exists

[nocturne dust]

BB is also the only blitz in desperate need of a fix/tweak/buff. I mean, smite is its own thing, but it works.

[weary idol]

Smite is annoying and poorly designed it's not bad

[fresh crag]

do what i did and go scrier

[nocturne dust]

I don't think KF counts, cuz... you don't even use BB to use KF

[wraith sphinx]

bb scriers is a fun combo but also precarious because of its point stretch

[fresh crag]

same setup, both bb talents, scriers pivot

[nocturne dust]

I can't think of a blitz worse than BB

[fresh crag]

yeah but its so worth tbh

[wraith sphinx]

like look at this

[fresh crag]

talent tree be like

[quartz barn]

Tbf all of psykers blitzes are infinite and are balanced around that

[nocturne dust]

you lose out on KR double stacking

[weary idol]

okay but Assail and Smite aren't unbelievable dogshit

[fresh crag]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-24752206

[weary idol]

Brain Burst is unbelievable dogshit

[nocturne dust]

except BB

[quartz barn]

Vs other classes that have limited grenades and have to share pickups

[nocturne dust]

which is not balanced

[steady torrent]

I was about to say, each blitz got there own thing

[nocturne dust]

cuz it sucks

[wraith sphinx]

I had to drop soulstealer to be able to get warp unbound which is the only way I can take advantage of kinetic resonance

otherwise the two don't pair well because bb is so peril hungry :/

[quartz barn]

Lets be honest every psyker blitz sucks unless build into

[fresh crag]

ik but for the penance, its useful and makes it go just a little quicker

[nocturne dust]

no?

Smite always works

[quartz barn]

In griefing the team ye

[nocturne dust]

and assail will still do stuff even if you literally take it and then run to left side

[quartz barn]

Nice

[wraith sphinx]

so yeah my two cents is that I'd definitely run brainburst more if it got buffed

and I do believe it needs to be buffed in some aspec

[nocturne dust]

I would too

[fresh crag]

ah yes smite discourse my favorite

🛌

[quartz barn]

Eh in the end its just a playstyle thing

[steady torrent]

I agree, it needs to do more boss dmg lol

[quartz barn]

I almost exclusively use bb because i mostly run close range loadouts

[nocturne dust]

but I don't think they'll buff BB because they look at usage stats, and it's very popular at high difficulties because KF, and popular at low difficulties because funny pop head thingy

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but that doesn't make BB good

[steady torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-funee-monkee-gif-18829253

[fresh crag]

i like bb cuz it plays well with my weaponry and playstyle

[wraith sphinx]

otherwise I'm not knocking on bb users to be clear

[quartz barn]

I have assail on gunker ig but its too weak compared to the rest of the loadout to even consider using lmao

[wraith sphinx]

when playing with randoms every extra bit of anti boss dmg is welcome

[nocturne dust]

BB is the meta on Inferno/Fire Trauma solely due to its positioning in the tree

[quartz barn]

Tl dr blitz = pathing node

[nocturne dust]

BB itself has basically nothing over assail outside of really, really long sniper fights (incredibly rare)

[steady torrent]

I go assail and scrier's gaze with no keystone

[quartz barn]

I also use it to bait hordes

[wraith sphinx]

😱

[fresh crag]

subjective good =/= objective good, i still believe a skillful and comfortable psyker can make an objectively bad blitz decent

[nocturne dust]

and I literally do not touch BB on any weapon that isn't Inferno, where I literally have no other long range option

[wraith sphinx]

keystoneless psyker??

[nocturne dust]

I would just use an lmb from staff

or a bullet

quicker

easier

[quartz barn]

Ye but purg

[nocturne dust]

more dmg

[quartz barn]

Lmb

[wraith sphinx]

true, a good player can make anything work

[quartz barn]

Long range

Lel

[nocturne dust]

Purg, sure

[steady torrent]

ye, the build i went, i dont really need keystone

[wraith sphinx]

and any loadout goes on non-high havocs if you know what you're doing

and I really do mean ANY

[nocturne dust]

but that doesn't make BB good, it just means BB has a highly-specific niche

which is problematic, given that it is 1 of 3 blitzes

and not, say, a weapon

[quartz barn]

Not really

[nocturne dust]

yes really

[fresh crag]

its true, that is problematic

[nocturne dust]

Every blitz should be useful in a variety of builds

[weary idol]

do you have a defective assail or something

[quartz barn]

Just because its worse doesnt mean its unusable

[fresh crag]

but until rotundseacreature does something about it, we gotta make it work

[fresh crag]

assail machine broke

[nocturne dust]

Nothing is truly unusuable, that's not what anyone is saying (outside of emphatic hyperbole) and is irrelevant

[weary idol]

because y'know

it does that

[quartz barn]

No i just clear too fast on fgs + recon las while being overdosed on scrier + dd

[steady torrent]

Fuck it, we buff all blitz, to make it op

[nocturne dust]

wat

excuse me

[wraith sphinx]

🤨

[nocturne dust]

Assail replaces the gun for me on gunker

[quartz barn]

Like solo full clear mission kinda fast

[nocturne dust]

I don't even pull out my gun unless there's a boss 90% of the time

[weary idol]

also assail staggers ragers

[fresh crag]

my havoc experience in a nutshell 😭

[nocturne dust]

and then I just ammodump vraks

[weary idol]

it also is a warp attack

so it gives you malefic momentum for free damage

[cosmic sigil]

[weary idol]

and it one shots most specialists and gunners

[wraith sphinx]

idgi tho like havocs below 21 are piss easy

[fresh crag]

[wraith sphinx]

you don't even need premades to do them

[fresh crag]

realistically speaking they probably found enough ppl to close the group but it doesnt show there

[weary idol]

also you can draw it instantly to help with horde clear

or chuck at some loser trapper mid horde

[fresh crag]

otherwise idk natural debuff ig

[wraith sphinx]

It's still 2/4 in party finder

[fresh crag]

[nocturne dust]

Assail is so useful, I literally take it on Inferno sometimes despite the meta saying otherwise

[wraith sphinx]

actually I think my party finder might have bugged out

gonna restart the game, gg fatshark

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, soulblaze maxxing is great and all, but Inferno will Inferno everything near you regardless of wildfire and psykinetics (but both are very nice for the style, sure, and do more damage, sure).

[steady torrent]

too many people rejected you to the point of breaking your game

[nocturne dust]

but being able to spend 0.2 seconds throwing a funny rock, ducking behind a wall and blazing the horde while you hear that special death noise and "sniper's gone!" 😤

[wraith sphinx]

it was the only rejection of the day 😡

[nocturne dust]

very nice feeling

[fresh crag]

i just like going all the soulblaze talents for maximum blaze per soul

very funny watching heretics burn :-)

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, it's not bad

[fresh crag]

actually, speaking of talents

[nocturne dust]

I wish the blitzes were more removed from talent choices

but then nobody would ever take BB

[steady torrent]

I would still

[fresh crag]

that one fan meme but its me with bb

[wraith sphinx]

it could be way worse

it could be like the zealot talent tree

[steady torrent]

When is psyker going to get a damn grenade blitz, i been waiting for so long

[fresh crag]

whats the best way to use the three staff talents in the middle left of the tree i kinda wanna see how to utilize them right

[wraith sphinx]

psyker nades are heresy

[steady torrent]

what about warp nades

[fresh crag]

(also is the psykhanium still up to date btw? or is there another info depository for psykers)

[glacial vapor]

Replace smite with void grenade

Darktide is healing

[steady torrent]

Throwing like little black wholes lol

[steady torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[fresh crag]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-say-that-say-that-agian-marvel-fantastic-gif-12441585058103544841

[wraith sphinx]

nah I like the psyker's niche of having ammo-less blitzes

[glacial vapor]

Too bad

[steady torrent]

Dont do that to smite

[fresh crag]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-destiny2-warlock-gif-9714996

[nocturne dust]

It's okay, some people voted for [this part of the sentence has been redacted for being too political].

[fresh crag]

PSYKER GRENADE

[steady torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[upbeat kestrel]

hmm. the times when Destiny 2 was good.🥲

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-fully-clothed-sad-shower-crying-in-shower-crying-in-the-shower-gif-16339158400433294017

[nocturne dust]

I mean, make the void grenade do peril

Infinite grenades

[wraith sphinx]

ehhh

[upbeat kestrel]

then how much?

20% 50%

[steady torrent]

25%, 50% is way too much i think

[fresh crag]

maybe make it require x amount stacks (like brain blast kills ) before you can toss it?

[upbeat kestrel]

if it would be a void grenade is we saw in boltgun. its needs a cooldown

[nocturne dust]

100%

Pop if you are not at 0% peril

[steady torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[upbeat kestrel]

scriers gaze says hello

[nocturne dust]

Warp Unbound does not work.

[wary flax]

Void grenade that replenishes itself over time.

Demo stockpile shredder 2.0

[steady torrent]

SG with the clutch

[nocturne dust]

Alternatively, warp unbound works but you still have to be at 0% peril to cast it

so effectively, does not work

[strong gulch]

@fiery stratus We can do device hunting if you still need em next time we play.

[fiery stratus]

Most likely will lol

I need to get the mods to make things like that and scriptures more obvious, should get some of those penances done at some point

[strong gulch]

This mods has a bunch of things like that. There's also a list at the bottom for just specific parts of it.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/447

[fiery stratus]

[strong gulch]

Tainted devices or something like that helps with the event

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/big-mcthankies-from-mcspankies-mcthankies-thankies-mcspankies-jimmy-neutron-gif-20611629

[wraith sphinx]

am I supposed to be losing havoc deployements from failing havoc missions of lower rank than mine? I thought that was removed

[strong gulch]

only for 40

[wraith sphinx]

ahh

[weary idol]

no

but I see it happen too but it's not actually reflected

[wraith sphinx]

so it's just a UI bug?

[weary idol]

Dukane will chastize me for failing a mission and I'll "lose a deployment" on the end of mission screen

but my deployments don't actually go down

[wraith sphinx]

"You are a poor soldier" 🤓

[weary idol]

me literally being havoc 40

yeah Dukane I know I'm a poor soldier :(

actually I think my clearance level is still 32

even though I did that one 40

[strong gulch]

Check with dukane, it might just be a visual error.

[weary idol]

yeah that's...what I said earlier

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah, havoc reset to 30 if you were over 30. That includes if you were 40

[wraith sphinx]

it's honestly such a good fit that a political officer that exists outside the contemporary rank structure and has the authority to extrajudicially murder people has the personality of an annoying pencil pusher

[weary idol]

I was at havoc 28 when I did my first 40

[strong gulch]

Was funny. Gone are the days of skipping right to 40.

[weary idol]

bastards

I know i'm ready for 40s I literally did one

[strong gulch]

Took my H16 partner to a H40. He's only does one and had H40. lmao

Give it back.

[wraith sphinx]

I just skipped through the first 15 or so ranks iirc

afterwards I just joined pub parties because there were so many of them there were always at least 2 of your own rank

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Auric mael started you off at 16

[wraith sphinx]

I was still bad at the game so I unlocked havoc by doing a malice mael 🙈

[marble crater]

Cheater

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/good-time-society-gts-becca-scott-becca-cheat-gif-5175503157161742553

[plucky flax]

First week havoc ranking up from 1

[terse rivet]

What is the minimum peril percentage for maximum cleave return on warp splitting anyone know?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-cheat-you-will-win-qotd-qoute-motto-nods-gif-8719402905451664636

[terse rivet]

or is it 1 to 1 percentage

[nocturne dust]

It's 1-1, except for assail

Assail is... weird.

[terse rivet]

does assail just get the max benefit out the rip?

[nocturne dust]

no

but it does get it early

Does anyone have the screenshot

[terse rivet]

I macrod assail swap onto BFG and It's pretty abusrd

was just trying to figure out when max value for war splitting was

[strong gulch]

On phone. It's kuli guide

[nocturne dust]

I can grab it

[nocturne dust]

ew

[terse rivet]

EW?!?!?! you were the one who recommended it LOL

[nocturne dust]

I didn't recommend a macro

Smh my head

[terse rivet]

Please don't make me scroll up

[nocturne dust]

Go ahead

I guarantee I did not recommend a macro

Only things I recommend that get anywhere close are the KeepSwinging and FullAuto mods

neither of those will assail weave afaik

[terse rivet]

I conflated Null with void in my mind it wasnt you my apologies

wrong screen shot but it was that guy

[plucky flax]

Based macro cheater.

Shame you weren't here with surge surge meme.

[nocturne dust]

Weakness is a sin, smh my head

[terse rivet]

I just did it for fun since someone recommended it. I have literally no other macros for this game and have never

[nocturne dust]

Nah, it's all good. Play how you want.

[terse rivet]

I heard QQ got gutted because of macro abusers though

[nocturne dust]

I'm just a puritan

[terse rivet]

QC*

[nocturne dust]

Yep, unfortunate and it still annoys me to this day the way they implemented the fix

It botched the smoothness of staff quelling and made some of the animations janky

[terse rivet]

I kind of noticed it on staffs I came back after a 2 year hiatus and some stuff just felt weird. Some stuff also came full circle like assail. I left right about the time they all but gutted it

[wraith sphinx]

poor lad, scarred by smykers

[weary idol]

guys gonna have a thunderstorm outside their house and get a PTSD attack

[wraith sphinx]

true!

can't even blame him though auric mael is miserable during these hours

[marble crater]

It should be miserable, day barely started

[wraith sphinx]

surely not everyone works first shift thoughj

and I'm home anyways cos no lectures

yeah this is too bleak to play lmao

and admittedly I prefer regular aurics to maelstrom because auric mael always runs a significant risk of ASS clowns

[marble crater]

ASS clowns? People who leave after going down?

[wraith sphinx]

yup

they don't know nobody will care or respect their golden title

[marble crater]

Someone should tell them that leaving counts as a loss now, so there is no point

[wraith sphinx]

really? that's based

[marble crater]

Yeah a few updates ago, very nice indeed

Some people still leave as soon as they go down though

[wraith sphinx]

yeah those are cancerous

[plucky flax]

Leaver in havoc

[strange wyvern]

Not sure if people leave during a team wipe to save time/rage quit or to have the bot try to clutch

[weary idol]

I think they could save a lot of time by not playing havoc at all if they leave

[quartz barn]

Optimal time management

Want to play havoc

Play for 5 min, die

Leave

[glacial vapor]

The true Havoc experience

[plucky flax]

Have to rush it and finish it in sub 30

But ppl are a bit too scared

[strange wyvern]

Sub 20 or no balls

[quartz barn]

Aah remember people playing extremely slow in AM and hold up in some side room to fight the horde

Good times

[zinc phoenix]

Oh my god those are the worst

[quartz barn]

Nowadays you just stay out in the open because moving to cover is a waste of time

If you die just blame the zealot for not using choir

[zinc phoenix]

Have to do all this hoopla to get a dang havoc game and then some two pump chump leaves after getting slapped down three seconds in

[wind spruce]

Who cares though, just roll with the strike team of Theseus

[strange wyvern]

Do havoc snipers just shoot through cover

[quartz barn]

Yes

But ngl you shouldnt get hit as long as youre always dodging

Unless youre unlucky and dodge into a snipe

[plucky flax]

Tru but im not that good

[strange wyvern]

With a hungry boi and enough rashuns, anything is possible

[plucky flax]

2 oggies 1 zealot speed demon

If anyone with a h40 hab dreyko with no red that's a super doable duo/trio

[wraith sphinx]

ofc I will anyways, it's just pathetic to see

[wind spruce]

You ain't wrong

[weary crane]

Does kinetic flayer trigger EP brain burst?

[plucky flax]

Ye if you have ep charge but it won't consume the charge.

[weary crane]

Huh? Is that OP, I assume its a bug?

[plucky flax]

I dunno probably intended.

[weary crane]

Free 50% dmg

[dull scroll]

An idea just came to me

they should do havoc seasons

each season with new modifiers and clearance reset

[wraith sphinx]

they already are

so far

pretty sure they promised further modifier and mission rotations in the future too

[dull scroll]

really 🤔

[wraith sphinx]

I can't check rn but I'm 90% sure

it should be in one of the steam posts

[marble crater]

Are you serious

Or trolling again

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-playing-mark-phillips-rdcworld1-im-dead-serious-im-being-real-gif-26500732

[zinc phoenix]

I wish rogue trader had darktide’s aesthetics and sound design tbh

Whatever complaints anyone has about the gameplay or whatever, the world and sounds and music are incredible

[wraith sphinx]

yeah

I'm burned out on turn based combat though

couldn't get into RT

[zinc phoenix]

The combat design is quite bad in RT 😂

[wraith sphinx]

I'm saving my remaning goodwill for another Xenonauts 2 playthrough

played it years ago, was awesome

should be much more feature complete now

[zinc phoenix]

I bought it when the alpha or whatever came out but been waiting for release, it’s gonna be sick

[weary crane]

they wont stop dying

literally been going for minutes

wildfire is amazing

infinite killing while afk

Does pen of soul do a lot for soulblaze?

It's hard to calculate 10% rendering on soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

no

most ADMs for soulblaze are 1, so you only get the bonus damage

which is 10%

so you get 1% bonus damage

[weary crane]

isnt is 1% dmg for every 4% rendering?

over the ADM limit

[nocturne dust]

Maybe? I could be misremembering

I'm a bit tired currently

[weary crane]

Nonetheless i think you're right that it doesnt do much

[nocturne dust]

Yeah

[weary crane]

It does virtually nothing for brain burst

[nocturne dust]

Best it does is help with carapace

but overall, PotS remains a trash node even when working

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah? Check this out

Easily breaks RT balance

[zinc phoenix]

Also rogue trader is lacking ogryn

Sad!

[weary crane]

Playing psyker on final toll havoc 40

And 2 players are using stealth

So everything targets me

[wraith sphinx]

Good, get those horde clear drills in

[nocturne dust]

more for the fire

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[weary crane]

Well i have parry for red melee enemies

But gunners

Either shred me or my shield

[narrow herald]

BRINGING THE FIRE BRINING THE FIRE

[nocturne dust]

Might I interest you in an unhinged Scrier's Inferno in this trying time?

[weary crane]

I actually just made one of those the other day

Didn't work out too well

EE doesnt last long enough for purga crits

Plus my teammates complain theres no shield

[nocturne dust]

You have 50% crit on purg

when SG is up

[weary crane]

Yes but the application rate is quite slow

Compared to a fast firing gun

[nocturne dust]

Nah, that's just crit strings talking

[patent mango]

1 free charm?? we're so back......

[weary crane]

Gaze is OP now so i want to use it as intended (with gun) but using up all the ammo as psyker on havoc is not great

[nocturne dust]

intended
I mean, pretty sure reality anchor is intended for staves

[jovial juniper]

Except it's trash

They should've reworked RA

[dull scroll]

these mods that allow you to inspect people through party finder is something else

[deft stump]

The builds some ppl have...

And here I thought my eepy morning builds are bad.

Or even the crack Bean's RNG keeps trying to get me to run.

[dull scroll]

just checked a 31 zealot, dmg dump on relic, 2 wounds on non-martyr

[wraith sphinx]

I played with a keystoneless veteran on havoc yesterday

They're in for a rude awakening in a few more levels

[strange wyvern]

Just wait until my goofy ahh ends up in your partyfinder

[deft stump]

That's vet though. There is a legitimate keystoneless build for recon.

[wraith sphinx]

Huh

[glacial vapor]

Vet keystones aren't that great tbh

[deft stump]

Ask Path for info or just ask in Vet mains.

[glacial vapor]

Especially for the investment

[prime elk]

Nah two of them are great

[strange wyvern]

Do you think the prevelance of book zealots is their other skills being too weak or book just being too strong (relative to zealots other skills)?

[wraith sphinx]

I mean weapon spec kinds nice but I can see your point for the other two

[deft stump]

I don't PF. Only premades. I was just goofing with ppl and we had 1 open slot so... the guy with inspect streamed. We ended up taking the first decent sane/meta person.

[quartz barn]

Most keystone playstyles kinda suck, so ignoring them and picking stat boost nodes is basically better

[wraith sphinx]

Interesting

[strange wyvern]

I like ep with brain burst

[quartz barn]

No i meant for vet

[deft stump]

More like, book can compensate for team mistakes or bad spots.

[quartz barn]

Psyker keystones are good

[strange wyvern]

I do want to run chastise without getting chastised by my team for not running book

[deft stump]

Can also ensure a hack or revive if we can get to the person.

[wraith sphinx]

What

[deft stump]

Just do it if there's already a book zealot.

[wraith sphinx]

If you're getting flamed for not running chorus your team is trash

[quartz barn]

Not in high havoc

[weary idol]

that frankly applies to all defensive abilities

[strange wyvern]

I haven't personally, I just worry that it's gonna be inevitable as I get more into auric and havoc

[deft stump]

I keep telling the zealot mains in party. You NEED to frontline DPS. One book and a bubble should be enough if you can clear.

[weary idol]

your team should only need 1 or 2

if even that

[deft stump]

Is pox gas.

[quartz barn]

Stealth is generally frowned upon in high havoc and the charge is fine but kinda niche

[deft stump]

So book and bubble extra good.

[quartz barn]

Charge being niche = when theres only 1 zealot ofc

[deft stump]

DOOKING Pox gas on bloody Baross.

[wraith sphinx]

Pox gas fucking sucks

[weary idol]

yeah pox gas mandatory everybody runs toughness

to get around that dogshit modifier

or you can save everybody the time and demote the assignment

so you get literally anything else

[plucky flax]

Karien how was your havoc games yesterday?

[deft stump]

Someone tried 3 times.

3 times gotten baross fart gas.

[deft stump]

Failed. Only won a 24 when I ended up derping around.

Cos someone kept ketting 25 baross farts everywhere.

[plucky flax]

That's cos you abandoned us.

Was funny.

[deft stump]

Wot, you are the ones who never really even wanted to play much. Playing with GF is one thing. I asked before, gotten shrugged. So is back to getting lucky in noticing Hams games or just trying to pug badly.

[plucky flax]

Huh im referring to last night when you asked if anyone wanna play havoc then clad beans and 50 all got on

Found out you were already playing so it was funny

[deft stump]

They ended up PF the last slot. I asked to see if I could get a fourth before.

Is awkward to put it, but basically someone I know wanted to do 40s. Joined by his friend and last was whoever fills or PF.

And look, I just want it done quick to do other things. You already got off by the time I got on so asked around in DMs for others.

I just wouldn't poke Ham directly unless it's like Sat.

And really, it'll only get worse next week.

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah we stacked up then figured out kari was already playing

[deft stump]

I have just monday to play.

Then flight on wed, back the next wed.

[wraith sphinx]

No sweat tho

[deft stump]

Need tuesday to check and remember to pack stuff.

Thing is nobody poked when I asked, and Discord doesn't ding while in game.

I have to manually check then. Not sure why, but my PC is messed up anyway.

But to be honest, I just wanted to get it done and over. Why I wouldn't mind trying to get into Ham's games for a quick win and go play things I actually enjoy. I think next reset, I'm probs going to just poke Idyll for a quick H1 win to hold assignment lvl and be done.

[blissful solar]

you don't even have to win havoc 1 to maintain

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-wonyoung-gif-15276262740223942189

[dull scroll]

just carried 3 pubs through a 40, but crash destroyed my 3 mil scoreboard

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[upbeat kestrel]

you have been smited by obese fish

[marble crater]

You know what they say, pics or it didn't happen

[blissful solar]

powerdi wouldn't have forgotten

[dull scroll]

really?? downloading RIGHT NOW

[blissful solar]

I don't actually remember but it doesn't forget when people leave, at least.

[deft stump]

Pretty sure you just need to win a havoc game a week.

[fallow token]

yo

[summer prairie]

you just need to play, not win

[deft stump]

And my map is eternally horrible anyway. Power matrix rituals orange things.

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/catgirl-gif-21822175

[summer prairie]

Power DI seems to have a memory leak right now, I wouldn't use it

[blissful solar]

true, I turned off powerdi myself but have no idea if it even improved my experience

[summer prairie]

I started getting out of memory crashes after one of the updates and it was definitely the cause

[deft stump]

Still rather just a notch to weekly wins and other things if they track past and such.

[wraith sphinx]

doesn't the game as a whole have a memory leak anyways lmao

I usually get a crash after visiting hadron or opening the masteries screen after 4-5 hours of playing or so

[strange wyvern]

Buying more RAM to postpone the crashes 🔥

[blissful solar]

yeahhhhhh i got memory crashes even after turning off powerdi. i think that's just what happens after like 5 games of playing

[wraith sphinx]

how much ram do you have lamb?

[summer prairie]

it's not about how much memory you have, the system isn't running out of memory

[deft stump]

48GB, still crashes without mods.

[blissful solar]

64

[wraith sphinx]

🤯

[strange wyvern]

I mean, allocating more memory would still just delay the time it takes to run out of memory would it not?

[blissful solar]

idk what runs out of memory but I don't even know if it's the game

[strange wyvern]

Haven't had crashes like you guys but all my shit is on low

[wraith sphinx]

I have 16

[strange wyvern]

[deft stump]

The game has memory leaks by itself. It's getting worse.

[blissful solar]

I think it may happen after using mourningstar vendors and their menus, especially after 4+ games

[strange wyvern]

New fatshark pickup lines
"I can make you leak (memory pls don't sue)"

[wraith sphinx]

deffo

every crash I've had (altho very rare, like maybe one crash per 100 hours) was when I visited hadron

[patent mango]

its so peak to go on forums and always see a new "where solo mode" post

[summer prairie]

There's a lua runtime environment for game logic that is allocated only 1gb by default and it can be expanded to maybe 2gb at most

[wraith sphinx]

I get the desire to experience the game's fantastic combat in singleplayer but cmon lmao

[deft stump]

I go from 100 FPS to 50 FPS after like 6-8 games if I bothered with shops.

[blissful solar]

I don't even think the Lua thing runs out of memory when the oom crashes happen

[wraith sphinx]

FS will almost certainly not make any additions or changes to the game's bots unless they're ready to declare EOL for darktide

which seems unlikely right now

[blissful solar]

at this rate darktide will be unplayable soon enough

[wraith sphinx]

a tide of darkness washes over our RAM sticks

[patent mango]

they should just buff bots tho

they're so bad lmao

[wraith sphinx]

tru the bots are dogshit

[patent mango]

just give a 25% chance for ogryn bot

[wraith sphinx]

prologue mission has all the four classes as possible bots during the finale

though they also just stand still and shoot/melee

[deft stump]

Only thing of value is budget ammo and the fact they stick.

[strange wyvern]

Even l4d2 bots give darktide bots a run for their money

[deft stump]

That's just what Vet bot do anyway

[patent mango]

give bots relic blades lmaooo

relic blade vet 🔥

[deft stump]

Excuse me, you can mod them even.

[wraith sphinx]

their melee doesn't even matter because they just do sporadic L1s and blocks

[deft stump]

Or the infected bots... if you like pain.

[blissful solar]

l4d2 bots can be anime girls so they're definitely better

[hearty wolf]

is anyone from London

I need le assistance

[marble crater]

You need more RAM than you have time to play, then it's fine

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-xd-twice-momo-gif-24754494

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-pet-cat-cat-pet-cute-cat-gif-24810247

[patent mango]

they added a solo mode for the chat

[blissful solar]

they really did....

[dull scroll]

carried two more 20s-30s to first time 40 clear 😌

hab dreyko, barely made it to extraction with half the map on my ass

[loud girder]

i saw you on reginald's stream

[dull scroll]

stalker 😒

[loud girder]

i just found the username funny

now i see it here

connected the dots

[plucky flax]

Damn those low level guys are gud tho

Here I have 40s guys doing 500~600k damage

[brazen rampart]

"How did you get 2m da-"

sees warpfire
"Oh its purg nvm."

[dull scroll]

they are super tight, prospect of clearing 40 for the first time on the line here

[plucky flax]

NA East built different.

[wraith sphinx]

thanks

[narrow herald]

Me bringing back void strike and playing bowling ball 😈

[vernal temple]

poor guy got swallowed by the abyss

[rich spindle]

I always bottom score dmg as zealot in havoc

[wraith sphinx]

I don't use the scoreboard mod because I start geeking over the stats too much and it just ruins my vibe

[ionic sorrel]

Totally get that.

Also, one of you NotAGeneStealer?

[plucky flax]

It depends on how much flaming you want to use.

If you steal all vet's ammo you can get high damage. Xd

[blissful solar]

I think that is a barely common Warhammer name

[rich spindle]

That’s my problem I only use las pistol to take out gunners lol

[plucky flax]

Based.

[rich spindle]

I think you can only break past 600k as chorus zealot if you have the bolter or flamer

I always end up being a chorus bot

[plucky flax]

Good book usage really carries the team's momentum tho.

Too often I find random zealot guys too afraid to push aggressive into the shooters with the book out.

[rich spindle]

True

[plucky flax]

When I am on zealot I am going in. Team better follow up.

[dull scroll]

this was a 40 yesterday, that was a charge zealot using the relic mk2

and a laspistol

[rich spindle]

It’s really funny when the purg psyker dies in a lobby with no ogryn and 3 dueling swords die to just a 21st horde

[plucky flax]

DS horde clear

[rich spindle]

I saw a guy with rampage on his, I’m not sure if you can even hit 3 poxwalkers in havoc

[vernal frost]

99% certain that you cant lmao

[strange wyvern]

Reject Dueling Soy
Return to Devil's Claw

[vernal frost]

what's the hitmass increase on havoc

[wraith sphinx]

I don't even know what hitmass does

[vernal frost]

someone could probably just run in in solo play but still

[wraith sphinx]

does it decrease cleave?

[dull scroll]

by the way how do you make the scoreboard display weapons used and blessing..etc. @plucky flax ?

[vernal frost]

no it just exists

then you just check it against cleave

[plucky flax]

Loadout monitor

[vernal frost]

if you have more cleave than hitmass then you keep damaging enemies with that sweep

with a couple exceptions

[rich spindle]

Now I’m forgetting what the stagger value checked against impact is

[vernal frost]

carapace stops hits

unless you have a blessing that ignores hitmass

and some weapons are cleave capped and can only deal damage to a certain amount of enemies

ok back to ds4

[jovial juniper]

x3.2 or something

[vernal frost]

yeah no chance

highest cleave on ds is its push

with like

4 or 5 cleave

[blissful solar]

dueling soyd

[vernal frost]

poxwalker has 1.5 hitmass

on h40 that's like

4.8

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-explosion-floombo-gif-6280498000577620919

psyker could cleave 3 poxers tho

[jovial juniper]

Wsplit moment

[plucky flax]

FGS special infinite cleave.

[buoyant maple]

How “thick” an enemy is for your attack to go through them

[wraith sphinx]

ah so that's why horde clearing feels like it takes forever on havoc

[rigid dust]

Forgive the dumb question, but are the pinned builds still valid?

[plucky flax]

Ye

[rigid dust]

Cheers!

[strange wyvern]

Is it bad enough to jusify the cleave blessings on my devil claw?

[wraith sphinx]

😬

I'm ngl I can't make my mind about dclaw blessings

NOTHING feels good to me

I think I just don't like the weapon

[strange wyvern]

yeah they're all kinda shit I won't lie

[jovial juniper]

You're not really hitting a 3rd target

💀

[strange wyvern]

even the chain crit one gets cucked if a mauler is in the crowd

[jovial juniper]

Unless you're pretty good at combos and know how to weave heavy sweeps

[wraith sphinx]

chaining heavies is pretty unsafe though isn't it

[jovial juniper]

Those are 9.5 cleave and could hit more than 2 Poxwalkers at H40 (8 mass total)

[wraith sphinx]

I wouldn't ever feel confident trying that

[buoyant maple]

Poxwalker is 4.8

You’re 0.1 cleave off

GG

[jovial juniper]

💀

Lmao

Welp
Just put Wrath on the bag

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-perhaps-i-treated-you-too-harshly-gif-26539272

[blissful solar]

straight to the gulag

[jovial juniper]

Me to wrath

[strange wyvern]

So DC doesn't have enough cleave to deal with havoc hordes?

[buoyant maple]

Most things do not

[plucky flax]

Hmm I forgot if 35+ is the final tier of hp/hitmass increase or is it at 30?

[buoyant maple]

Wrath is basically the only way to make cleave centric melee weapons playable

[jovial juniper]

Horde buff 5 is at h35 iirc

x3.2 mass

x1.35 hp

Havoc be like
Oh yeah you need single target weapons to deal with the really scary enemies
Anyways hordes are thick af and you need horde clear weapon

[vernal frost]

well i mean

[plucky flax]

Be ogryn.

[vernal frost]

yeah be ogryn

or carry a flamer

or shredders

[plucky flax]

Spam heavy/light and clear everything.

Oggies don't understand chaos.

They just smash.

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh
No ammo

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-cookies-gif-19170472

I ate it all

[plucky flax]

P-gun vet and flamer zealot using ammo on chaffs when there's a burga on the team.

[jovial juniper]

Vet is my most played class on havoc

I'm starting to believe that he's not fun on havoc

[rich spindle]

What can you do beside shredder spam

[vernal frost]

sunder

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/in-the-rain-gif-21541482

[jovial juniper]

I am firing mah laser.gif

[prime elk]

Give ammo

https://tenor.com/view/butter-robot-gif-21973199

[plucky flax]

I hate the havoc map pool being so small.

I'm sick of playing the same 4 maps 100000 times.

[rich spindle]

Vet tree rework where he can become a genuine active support role is my dream

[wraith sphinx]

heavenly

[gusty warren]

Somehow I feel like auric is somehow easier than normal diff

On normal damnation 3/5 times I get wiped

On auric even when 3 are dead, the last one almost always do some insane crutches instead of just fold over

[plucky flax]

Based pro player. Can't be me.

[cyan notch]

hi guys

[deft stump]

You mean, because I have enough packet loss that half my hits don't even hit. So I burn around twice the ammo for the same kill.

I know cos it takes 7 shots to kill a crusher when playing low ping... It takes at least a reload when i play my vet in EU damnation/aurics.

[strange wyvern]

using ammo on fodder when you can just melee them

[jovial juniper]

But did you swap your weapon though

[deft stump]

Horde too big, Just burn an entire mag to kill because RANDOM PACKET LOSS GO.

[jovial juniper]

Classic weapon not swapping moment

[rancid mauve]

What is the best dump stat for force greatsword?

[deft stump]

Warp resist.

You literally dump it on any weapon with it... Only the Void Strike might dump Blast Radius over it.

[gusty warren]

void strike is the lightning staff right

[strange wyvern]

no it's the one that shoots an exploding ball

[gusty warren]

the floor shooting staff?

[rancid mauve]

Don't we want big balls?

[strange wyvern]

no

that's voidblast

[gusty warren]

ok then I prob have never used it before

[wraith sphinx]

not my fault the packets are so tasty

[deft stump]

You could do it, but ppl complain bigger blast makes it harder to hit weakspots.

[jovial juniper]

VoidSTRIKE is the bowling ball one

[gusty warren]

I have never used it in that case

[deft stump]

.-. I guess you are eating my packets then...

[marble crater]

You lose so many, we are all eating them

[deft stump]

.-.

[quaint burrow]

i love this thing

[plush compass]

Anyone know if or when the "Krieg Gas Mask with Psyker Adaptation" will come back to the Commissary?

[analog agate]

Let us just contact our resident FS employee

[jovial juniper]

When Fatshark needs money

[plush compass]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-take-my-money-money-gif-12362351

[jovial juniper]

On a serious note
We don't know

There's a chance but it's not a high chance

[plush compass]

rgr, some games announce this sora stuff so mighta thought

[wraith sphinx]

Krieg cosmetics get re added the most often so you're actually covered

Just have some patience

[plush compass]

thats good to hear, ty.

[weary idol]

i'm using plasma gun on them because I have agile engagement and weapon specialist

[buoyant maple]

sunder not as good as BM rn

[upper sun]

i didnt even know sunder was a real blessing until the crafting update

[weak sierra]

Apart from the playerbase in aurics being generally more skilled, there's the fact that a lot of talents proc on elite and/or specialist kills, so in aurics they proc all the time. Psykinetic's Aura is a good example of this.

[rich spindle]

It must be said….

Give purg finite cleave

[gusty warren]

Ah right that makes sense

Or survivalist

Or stuff like that

[weak sierra]

Survivalist has a cooldown for that exact reason.

[plush compass]

blessings for VB?

[strong gulch]

Fire VB is flak + crit chance and nexus + blazing spirit

The other variant is flak + cara and flurry + rending shockwave.

It's strong but not as strong as fire VB

[plush compass]

fire the Equinox?

[strong gulch]

Two staves have equinox in their names.

VB = voidBLAST

[plush compass]

Sorry i was confused when you said "Fire" VB, i was confused that there may of been multiple variants

[strong gulch]

NP

Fire VB has blazing spirit. Hence the nickname of fire VB. Different ways to build the same staff.

[plush compass]

got ya ty

[strong gulch]

Check pins for staff builds btw. There's more info there.

[plush compass]

yea ive had a gander at the build and usinjg them. they are very helpful

[weak sierra]

If you're building for soulblaze it's a good idea to spec heavily into soulblaze. Not only is it effective, it's also extremely fun to see the whole room on fire courtesy of the insane freak.

[dull scroll]

smoke nade 👍

it's as good as psyker bubble

shredder overrated imo, that dmg is puny

[nocturne dust]

no toughness regen

0/10

[dull scroll]

yeah but it doesn't break 😏

[nocturne dust]

neither does bubble if you place it well

[dull scroll]

I don't know what dark sorcery you using to make bubbles not pop under reaper fire

[nocturne dust]

It's called death

Kill the reaper

[dull scroll]

lol

[nocturne dust]

bubble probably shouldn't have HP tho, lol

[jovial juniper]

Yeah lemme just put bubble directly on top of ranged enemies

It works better than it should

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-fanclub-niki-shiina-natsume-sakasaki-sora-harukawa-tatsumi-kazehaya-gif-9042720093228074311

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-mgrr-metal-gear-rising-mgr-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-27041190

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-senator-armstrong-tear-smile-wholesome-senator-armstrong-smile-senator-armstrong-proud-armstrong-smile-gif-25514955

[jovial juniper]

Why tf does it end with a proper resolution cap cut

💀

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-17361588

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/gameundt-fallout-maximus-outerops-gif-4067651569052406982

[weak sierra]

If you're stacking enough CDR you can just put up another shield once the first one pops.

[dull scroll]

the real point is, if vet takes smoke, you don't need to take bubble then, and can go vent

vent is a whole different beast compared to the puny shredder nade

[nocturne dust]

smokes can't be used nearly as often as bubble

[dull scroll]

not as consistent, the vet relies on nade back from elite kill talent thing

but actually pretty often

the vet on my regular spams this thing

but sometimes your luck runs out and he don't get enough nade back

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-weed-joint-marihuana-gif-18002627

So what if

Assail really is crack rocks from the warp

Are we moreso druggies than zealots?

[clever elk]

why is it nearly impossible to get a force sword with 60% warp resistance from brunt

[jovial juniper]

You don't have gambling skills

[clever elk]

oh well

[weak sierra]

gotta work on your ability to roll a 6 every time you toss some dice

[steady torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-jessie-jesse-walter-white-gif-18718878

[nocturne dust]

Only one of us is a screaming maniac hurtling at enemies with reckless abandon.

The other is Zealot.

[celest valve]

knife zealot tho

[nocturne dust]

is a coward without reckless abandon

imagine having an ability that instantly regenerates your toughness or hides you away from enemy aggro

[celest valve]

your face is a coward without reckless abandon

[nocturne dust]

Must be a zealot then

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-fire-writing-heat-gif-25524005

[amber vault]

hey guys, if i wanted to use warp flurry on the electro staff, what other blessing would be good if im running crit in the talents?

[cloud night]

Warp nexus

Flurry for lightning charge speed
Nexus for crit scaling per peril

[amber vault]

thank you!

[cloud night]

Np

[ornate hamlet]

Need a bit of advice for Psyker. I have my build photos below.

Basically, use my sword for horde clear. Staff is great for gunner patrols, either left spam or lighting blasts if I hold right mouse button.

Brain rupture for crushers and the like. It’s a good build, it gets me through damnation, but I can’t help but feel it’s…not fine tuned?

Psyker is the one class I seem to struggle with build wise. I feel like maybe i made a few good choices but could do better!

[strong gulch]

There's an EK build in the pins. Put flak on your EK. Crit damage perks are poop.

I don't rec In Fire Reborn unless you have inferno or fire VB.

cara and unyielding are the general go to perks for FGS

FGS heavies and EK RMB for crushers.

[ornate hamlet]

I’ll give it a shot! Thank you

[strong gulch]

Oh right, you can use the games lantern build editor to get screenshots of your talent tree or save a full build. It makes sharing easier.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[clever elk]

after 60 tries i finally got it!!!!!

[prime elk]

now you just need to try to get one with negative warp res

[potent echo]

nice rogue trader "collab"

[deft stump]

Other games get dook quests.

This is but a charm.

[fair spruce]

How generous is the definition of 'warp attacks' as far as getting it to proc on kill

do staves, activated swords and th e like trigger it?

[broken carbon]

if it generates peril

its a warp attack

and soulblaze

[ripe obsidian]

What's the horde clear combo on the FGS VI?

[prime elk]

light spam works

or 3x (?) lights and block cancel

[nocturne dust]

Get to heavy 3

use either lights or push -> light (no need for push attack, push itself has a horizontal light followup)

Max optimal is push -> light -> heavy -> repeat spam iirc

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/kurona-math-gif-18320549

[plucky flax]

Light light light block repeat. Or swap to fgs light light repeat. Or swap to fgs light light light light. Ooorr.. just light spam. Xd

I would not really use the heavy 3 in havoc it just comes out too slow.

[plucky flax]

Veri pro
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1363438686225698826/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.04.20_-_09.57.47.03.mp4?ex=6813e07a&is=68128efa&hm=a675050eb444b8dea8b85ac3553445d3ffce64ebf378967485c1b2b2ddd57e7e&

[nocturne dust]

Sure, everyone just light spams

but technically there is an optimal combo and you're not using it, smh my head 🤓

[plucky flax]

I use swap 4x light and 3x light block personally.

Easy to use with good horde clear. Swap 2x light repeat take too much mental power when trying to dodge overhead in havoc.

1 hit and I'm ded ded

[nocturne dust]

I just attack and dodge until enemy is ded

Combos? Tzeentch heresy

[plucky flax]

So im using combo

Dunno why you flame

[nocturne dust]

That's wat I'm saying

ur using combo and are a heretic

[plucky flax]

Need to charge my gauge up for a phat special

[quartz barn]

Only use heavy

[celest valve]

so

which FGS mark is better again

[karmic temple]

all this talk of combos, fuck a combo i'm fighting for every braincell as it is dodging crusher hammers

[celest valve]

[karmic temple]

oh no

[plucky flax]

Just preference. I prefer 6

[nocturne dust]

All of them over any other weapon

Big sword is love, big sword is life

[karmic temple]

i do love me a force weapon

[celest valve]

yeah but which one is most optimal

and that I should use

[quartz barn]

Again thats pref

[nocturne dust]

The one in your heart

[plucky flax]

You should try both and see which you gel with more

....

[quartz barn]

Mk6 has stab on second heavy

[karmic temple]

how about someone hit you with both and you say which hurts more

[quartz barn]

Mk8 has stab on push attack

[nocturne dust]

This sounds scientific

[karmic temple]

right?

[celest valve]

i see

[karmic temple]

i think there is merit in my methods

[ripe obsidian]

Cut, cut, cut. Why do you like the VI over the XIII or VIII or whatever it is

[celest valve]

i need to develop new bait, I see the anti-memes have developed fully to provide immunity to FGS mark debates

[plucky flax]

Better sustain single target

[ripe obsidian]

Fair

[karmic temple]

master your baiting

[nocturne dust]

stab after slice

[plucky flax]

Give bubble knight a try in havoc. Its hard but satisfying

[nocturne dust]

e z followup after group stagger

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-im-too-weak-weak-too-weak-i-am-too-weak-gif-27278272

[karmic temple]

nah run a goofy ah gun psyker force sword build with scrier's and smite

trust it'll work

[ripe obsidian]

I already do. Just not at H40

I just use the VIII usually, because LMB spam is easier

[plucky flax]

Fair.

[ripe obsidian]

I lose track of where I am in melee combos and screw myself over

[karmic temple]

same

my brain too small for track pull out double barrel and blast

[ripe obsidian]

My brain is too ADHD to track everything going on at once, and melee attack chains fall below map awareness and special sound cues

[karmic temple]

agreed

plus thats what i heave teammates for

im too high to type sorry lmao imma go back to finishing my vet i treat like a rotten step child

[plucky flax]

Teammates often suck and make it super hard cos bubble up time is low without psykenetic aura

[ripe obsidian]

I need to play more H40 so I can suck less.

[karmic temple]

anytime i see a bubble psyker i grab my book as zealot to fill gaps if we aren't out in the open but i've seen some stupid shit

[nocturne dust]

Don't, it sucks

Play auric, be comfy

[karmic temple]

have fun instead of suffer cbt

[plucky flax]

I feel nothing playing auric.

It' emptiness.

[karmic temple]

sounds like you enjoying suffering

[ripe obsidian]

I generally have more fun in H40. I've just been really bad lately. I did great on my push to H40 and for like a week after, and since then I have been pretty bad

Bad positioning, bad target prioritization, bad reaction times, etc.

[plucky flax]

Blame it on team.

[nocturne dust]

You've been stockholmed 😭

[clever elk]

Does surge work on secondary attack? also is riposte or precognition better on force sword?

[ripe obsidian]

No, I am too self-loathing for that. All things are my fault, always.

[nocturne dust]

Surge blessing only works on secondary for Voidstrike. All other staves, it does not.

[clever elk]

nicee thats the one i got

[nocturne dust]

Riposte is better. Precog has duration issues and doesn't combo as well with on-crit talents.

[clever elk]

thank you thank you

[plucky flax]

Worst offenders are shout vets and book zealots not using their abilities.

Wasting psykenetic aura.

[clever elk]

whats wrong with shout vets?

[plucky flax]

I'm saying they're not spamming shout.

For CC + yellow toughness and to take advantage of psyker's cdr auras.

[clever elk]

ahh i see

[plucky flax]

When a wave of 30 elites come the ability recharge come back constantly.

[clever elk]

literally you should be spamming shout then

[karmic temple]

depending on the team yes if you aren't you are throwing even if by accident

i used to make that mistake a lot since i'd hold my book too long waiting for a perfect save

[nocturne dust]

I'll spam book for you and nothing else, as the God Emperor intended

[karmic temple]

yea i can be your book bot

[ripe obsidian]

Elites coming toward us? Spam book. Crossing an open space? Spam book. Boss needs stunlocking? Spam book. Panicking? You better believe I spam book.

[karmic temple]

yes my brother

[plucky flax]

Yeah using book against chaos spawn/plague ogryn is super OP

Stun lock it and the team can do like 70k hp damage during that time.

[nocturne dust]

People keep killing the boss before I can throw it off the cliff

[karmic temple]

lemme unequip everything but my book

[plucky flax]

Become choir boi

[karmic temple]

book only run lets go

[clever elk]

should i have warp flurry or warp nexus on a surge voidstrike?

[karmic temple]

who tryna run book only H40

[wispy bay]

If the imperium has powerpoint, they could purge the shit out of chaos.

[nocturne dust]

eh, too easy

[karmic temple]

true

[clever elk]

it's in an stc somewhere out there

[ripe obsidian]

I've only even attempted H40 as book Zealot and bubble Psyker. Too scared to leave behind my defensive tools

[nocturne dust]

you could just stagger book casts and then boom, no fight necessary

[karmic temple]

i meant no weapons tho

[wispy bay]

We did 4 smite psyker before.

[nocturne dust]

yes

stagger book casts -> win

[karmic temple]

true but thats only with perfecting the stagger but true

can't fight that logic

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you just need voice communication probably

Someone with a mod to see teammate cooldowns calling who casts

[karmic temple]

both of those are boring when you could do it blindfolded

[nocturne dust]

never said it wouldn't be boring

[wispy bay]

There are 2 maps that you don't need to kill anything to win.

[karmic temple]

i mean that metaphorically and literally

[wispy bay]

There are 2 more, but they have technical details.

[karmic temple]

plus if slap only is possible anything is really

[nocturne dust]

You sure? I feel like there has to be more, it's just a waiting game

Like, unless you literally have the way blocked until you kill a boss, which is only a couple maps, it should be fine, no?

[karmic temple]

there has gotta be more

[wispy bay]

Hab Drey, Ascension riser and the 2 communication tower maps.

[nocturne dust]

Does Gloriana require murder?

[wispy bay]

To break the ice?

[plucky flax]

Surge and creeping flames is really good too. But team need to be aggressive.

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmm I say that doesn't count

Ice don't bleed

Same for the wall eye thingies

They're just goop sacks, not real enemies

[karmic temple]

technically still demons

[nocturne dust]

poxwalkers aren't demons

[karmic temple]

and a living entity

[nocturne dust]

Theoretically

[karmic temple]

still in the "alive" category tho right?

[nocturne dust]

but like the cultists, they don't really function as alive

there is 0 difference between hitting those guys, and hitting ice

[steady torrent]

I don't know man, I just like edging the warp

[celest valve]

the warp likes it when you edge them too

[karmic temple]

firstly pog i love adventure time secondly thats Slaanesh talk right there

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe one day, when I am feeling confident and my framerate has stabilized.

Darktide is chugging at like 60 FPS on med/high while the the Oblivion Remaster is hitting 90 outdoors and 120 indoors on high.

[steady torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-pee-funny-cat-gif-436236211739437212

[plucky flax]

Darktide optimisation

[celest valve]

if you care about that zealot chat up one channel is right for you

we're all about the heresy here

[steady torrent]

That's right, glad they end adventure time in the best way

[steady torrent]

Peak optimization I have ever seen

[upper sun]

borderlands 4 stuff is out

psyker ability looks like ass tho

[karmic temple]

i dunno i like the siren stuff for Bl4

what part looks like ass to you?

[upper sun]

the summoned pet looks stupid

[karmic temple]

why? like what don't you like

i thought the idea and ability was cool do you just not like the look of the pet itself?

[upper sun]

both

[karmic temple]

the tiger was cool we don't know what that is yet

[upper sun]

i dont like pets/turrets/summoned slop in general and it looks stupid

[karmic temple]

meh I disagree depending on execution i don't mind it and almost every borderlands game has had one so I'm used ot it by now

[upper sun]

yeah i just didnt play the classes that had them

[karmic temple]

who did you play normally?

[upper sun]

lilth and maya and the shield bearer in presequal

i didnt play 3

[karmic temple]

then the maliwan soldier in 4 or the tediore soldier might be more up your alley in this game they mixed up the playstyles again like 3 most siren players didn't really like Amara in 3 for similar reasons because of the playstyle being nothing like before I played most characters and found reasons to like them all over time, tho you don't have to check out the game at all granted if i hear good things i will and i thought things look better than 3 did

what I mean is turret slop or not it looks pretty borderlands so far arguably so if the story is good I'm ready to play it

[brazen rampart]

Looked at the store page for bl4 and GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[karmic temple]

lmao

they did a playstation state of play trailer that was like 20 minutes

destiny however i never wanna see that mosnter again

[deft stump]

To be fair, wasn't she like melee when the Lilith was more mobility smg and Maya was support CC but also runs SMGs from memory?

[karmic temple]

yes tahts why i don't blame anyone who doesn't like new sirens

but by lore the whole point is there are 7 total sirens and they don't have the same power

so of course new ones are gonna play different

[deft stump]

Because yes, I played the Sirens in 1/2. The gunslinger in presequel.

[karmic temple]

which btw Amara had a grasp ability

she could also do CC like Maya most people hated that and made fun of her for being a second maya

[deft stump]

Melee Maya.

[karmic temple]

yes but now that we get something completely new its also bad because its not like old siren gameplay even tho when we got that everyone wasn't happy we got that

its why I'm not saying anything til i can for sure say new siren is actually ass

[deft stump]

Eh?

Ah.

[karmic temple]

yea sorry lol

but yea i think the gameplay rn looks pretty good the scythe siren thing looks a little goofy but im interested in seeing what the tiger thing does

my worries still fully sit on the story being ass again

[deft stump]

If it's summons, heh.

Story is probs gonna be arse, it's been that way since 3.

[karmic temple]

i know but the dlcs for 3 were well written

[deft stump]

1 was just brown of war.

[karmic temple]

especially the krieg dlc

[deft stump]

2 was great, but ppl hated Maya.

The presequel was alright.

[karmic temple]

pre-sequel died before it had a chance

[deft stump]

Don't have the season pass so don't know DLCs.

[karmic temple]

they killed the studio like 6 months after the game released so it got almost no support

they were the best part of bl3 most people missed for good reasons

[deft stump]

Which I still don't understand.

[karmic temple]

what part?

[deft stump]

TPS personally was better written than base 3...

[karmic temple]

agreed

[deft stump]

Why was it killed?

[karmic temple]

money prolly

no one knows but an entire dlc was cancelled for pre-sequel

[deft stump]

It's absolutely not the gunplay and such. They all feel the same tbh.

[plucky flax]

Bl3 with unskippable cutscenes and extremely cringy writings were too much for me

[plucky flax]

Stopped playing after 25 hours

[deft stump]

Just questionably unplayable co-op for not hosts.

[karmic temple]

the dlc were the only good thing about the written parts of bl3 so most people missed it

[deft stump]

First game was shoot fine, jumping and driving absolute horse dook.

[karmic temple]

I'm still mad they cancelled Luxy's

[deft stump]

It's extra cost and the base game being that dook means unless you preordered, you might not bother.

[karmic temple]

exactly

if you get a chance watch the story for the Krieg Dlc in 3 you can tell someone who loved krieg wrote it

[deft stump]

I heard. I still hate what ||they did to Maya. I know ppl disliked her and all that but still.||

[karmic temple]

i agree

especially since lore wise we are supposed to be collecting vault hunters for the war happening in 4

[deft stump]

Mhm. Also, ||knowing Lilith and Maya, they should be able to duo decimate... but STORY AND GAMEPLAY SEGREGATION. The amount of bullying those two can do. Also the fact Lilith has an immortality juggle build and Maya just inf team(?) lifesteal fest.||