Common enough that's I've seen it before.
#psyker-class
strong gulch
terse rivet
is it actually affecting stats or is it fake
strong gulch
No clue tbh
deft stump
Better off just getting a new one to be safe lul.
terse rivet
is the blade projectile from the GS supposed to do like 12 damage?
deft stump
is the blade projectile from the GS supposed to do like 12 damage?
You need to kill for stacks first.
Fill up that bar.
If you mean FGS special.
terse rivet
okay I see now
strong gulch
There's 2 bars. Fill it to 1 (half) to kill trash mobs, and fill to 2 (full) to kill the gunners and smaller.
The slash is infinite. cleave and has CC. You can do the special slash through a wall or floor to save a dogged teammate.
deft stump
If you git gud at timing, you have a long range 4 stacks of bleed with a puncture bistol.
Just swap to the gun as the wave is flying.
strong gulch
terse rivet
lol hilarious
long wharf
just be aware that while it has infinite cleave, it does have damage falloff over distance
long wharf
Just swap to the gun as the wave is flying.
this is the kind of thing FartShack needs to fix
terse rivet
For the record that bugged stat sword from earlier does not actually function with the stats displayed
if anyone else ever asks in the future
it actually does significantly less dmaage
deft stump
For the record that bugged stat sword from earlier does not actually function wi...
Should report it. Might save someone heart pains if it's repeatable.
patent mango
its just visual its super common lol
deft stump
its just visual its super common lol
Oh, does it just fix itself when you swap chars or so?
patent mango
that probably works yea
im wondering if they fixed it or if i still get it actually
i think its fixed surprisingly (at least on switching weapon mks)
verbal thistle
Does Warp Res affect deflector peril buildup
shy pewter
yeah its a common visual bug, the weapon stats are something normal and it just fails to display properly
prime elk
this is the kind of thing FartShack needs to fix
Nah it’s a cool interaction
And not even that strong tbh
wind spruce
just be aware that while it has infinite cleave, it does have damage falloff ove...
It doesn't have infinite cleave
long wharf
you sure?
wind spruce
Yeah it's something absurdly high like 30 maulers
prime elk
So effectively infinite 
deft stump
Yeah it's something absurdly high like 30 maulers
Tell me the day you get 35 maulers.
wind spruce
Yeah
deft stump
At the same time.
prime elk
Unless crushers really ruin the party
deft stump
I'll question what the heck even happened to the game.
strong gulch
No.
Am curious. lmao
terse rivet
You mean Sefoni
Who is stefoni?
terse rivet
Step on me
Idk what's going on right now
deft stump
Freaks being weird.
blissful solar
narrow herald
Hey don't compare me with the redditors
strong gulch
Does Warp Res affect deflector peril buildup
If you mean KD and and prolonging blocking bullets, yeah WR does affect peril build up. But it's small.
nocturne dust
It doesn't have infinite cleave
Isn't that only the melee portion?
I'm go test this right now 
70 maulers
Given that they all died in unison after 3 full slices, is beeg cleave
deft stump
If you mean KD and and prolonging blocking bullets, yeah WR does affect peril bu...
I mean, is why ER on my tank DH build.
torn kernel
You mean the afk corner build
deft stump
You mean the afk corner build <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I mean, it does what a slab does but not as good.
More mobile though.
torn kernel
Better 
remote shadow
Can't imagine why people aren't playing Mortis Trials at 1am
patent jacinth
Given that they all died in unison after 3 full slices, is beeg cleave
Isn’t it just infinite
nocturne dust
It is
The slice is, at least. Supposedly, the melee isn't.
Y'know what, I can test that now.
patent jacinth
120 runs fairly close to the actual hard cleave cap for swings and projectiles
It’s either 120 or 128
nocturne dust
lmao, hitting them lags the game
It occurs to me I have no good way of testing this
Separating the slice and the melee portion isn't very feasible here, lol
patent jacinth
The cleave is so high you will never find a situation where it is insufficient
Job done
nocturne dust
Well, the cleave damage distribution is also playing a part, it's hard to tell how much your melee damage is being reduced
...I guess I could spam slices until they die, and have one out of melee-portion range
and then compare when that one dies
split lance
Surge staff best staff
patent jacinth
...I guess I could spam slices until they die, and have one out of melee-portion...
It would probably be easier just to go file spelunking
And pull a value directly
wind spruce
Isn't that only the melee portion?
Never trust chat
nocturne dust
Never trust chat
It was only the melee portion
sooooooooooooo
who's trusting chat
wind spruce
I meant me
nocturne dust
(alternatively it's not even the melee portion, it's unclear in my testing)
patent jacinth
who's trusting chat
The poor souls who didn’t waste an inordinate amount of time studying this game
verbal thistle
nocturne dust
What is FGS falloff range?
abstract arch
go to bed ainz
wind spruce
What is FGS falloff range?
1m
nocturne dust
Did this and realized two problems: falloff and when they start dying, I start cleaving new ones
nocturne dust
no easy way to know that then via testing
Somebody just has to rip open the files and look under the hood, cuz you need numbers to distinguish at that point
wind spruce
this is a PITA
Pita... bread?
nocturne dust
pain-in-the-arse
wind spruce
nocturne dust
As best as I can tell, either the melee portion's cleave stops somewhere, or the cleave damage distribution eventually nukes your damage to where it might as well stop somewhere
strong gulch
Game not letting me switch weapons is poopie
terse rivet
did they nerf the empowered smite LMB electro staff build?
formal harness
did they nerf the empowered smite LMB electro staff build?
You can’t r cancel anymore
So finally it got nerfed
Still not too bad of a build if you are planning on using the actual shock part of the staff
formal harness
You basically quelled after every shot to double your primary projectile attack speed
torn kernel
What is FGS falloff range?
isn't it like 8m or somethin it starts doing minimum dmg
weary idol
You basically quelled after every shot to double your primary projectile attack ...
more than double
terse rivet
oh so people were using macros then
formal harness
Mostly
terse rivet
cause that's like RTS APM to do that non stop for an entire match
formal harness
I did play that build without a macro, but couldn’t play more than one match
terse rivet
Yea bro they should have called it the Carpel tunnel build
formal harness
As there was some keybind changes you could do to emulate the macro pretty closely
terse rivet
I still saw someone earlier in a match absolutely deleting everything with LMB Electro staff
No idea what their exact build was but they were going crazy with it
formal harness
It’s still effective, just not “I play the game, not my teammates” level
You go surge staff with critmaxxing and surge, your primary projectiles will hurt even in havoc 40
verbal thistle
Can confirm
torn kernel
Yea bro they should have called it the Carpel tunnel build
that's just the laspistol
formal harness
Full auto mod my beloved
remote shadow
Does the Knockback indulgence apply to Smite?
formal harness
Some weapons in this game are carpal tunnel inducing lmao
verbal thistle
Taxe my beloved
deft stump
that's just the laspistol <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Don't remind me... Manually lvled up laspistol on vet.
Yes, my melee was the knife as usual.
_>
wispy bay
I hope that they buff the heavy mark of the laspistol one day.
deft stump
WHY DOES DEMOTING TAKE SO LONG <:wail:961801871759114262>
Don't ask me. Also, doing an auric mael sets it to 16 again?
Some ppl were asking if it still does it or not.
strong gulch
just came back after 2 years what was it?
It was around then. LMB was slower tho.
quartz barn
Hmmm browsing reddit at work reading bad dt takes
Darktide reddit takes also good for memes however
Revive speed on rez shout 
weary idol
had a guy run that in a havoc match
and he never actually got to use it a single time
potent echo
Should make res shout work on themselves 
wraith sphinx
True...
deft stump
Should make res shout work on themselves <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
Make it like DOTA stuff, On going down with it off CD, auto activates it to pick yourself up and take the usual 1 wound of corruption.
Or more like Ursa/Troll with the, on going down, can still ult to shrug it off with the usual 1 wound corruption.
wraith sphinx
Add another node to make it work like crystalline will too
deft stump
Add another node to make it work like crystalline will too <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771...
Too much tax nodes
deft stump
Nu, it trash, why needs buffs.
plucky flax
Did anything happen to meme spam yesterday
blissful solar
i think they just ignored that one guy
wraith sphinx
the colours don't even quite fit one another, dissapointing
it looks kind of close to the one psyker top I'm actually interested in getting, but yet so far
upbeat kestrel
knife skin is nice
wraith sphinx
is, looks pretty good
dueling sword skin looks fine too but aquilan blade looks much better
anyways FS please put in the arriestus solemni bundle next time so I can buy it, thanks 👉 👈
summer prairie
oh the new event is up
wraith sphinx
👀
blissful solar
upbeat kestrel
wanna hop on?
summer prairie
wraith sphinx
I'm about to go for a drive, I'll check this out later
blissful solar
holy moly a new secondary objective.......
upbeat kestrel
https://discord.gg/rYYXjefV if someones bored
sharp crypt
Hi guys, asking for help. I have 1 point in my build and not sure which one to pick essence harvest/soulstealer/quietude. Thanks for the help
sharp crypt
Oh 2points sorry, quietude and?
marble crater
Oh 2points sorry, quietude and?
Honestly, no matter what you pick it won't matter at the start because you don't have a good way to generate peril.
For leveling you should path towards the right side and pick up Assail as your Blitz, it's by far the best during the leveling process. I suggest going through Mettle and Perfect Timing to get Assail and then get Soulstealer afterwards
Assail counts as Warp kills so Soulstealer will give you a nice Toughness source
sharp crypt
Sorry I maxed level already, just have spare points making trauma build with empyrean resolve and I wanted to mitigate the minus toughness with more perks to give toughness
So am asking which of soulstealer and essence harvest is better
I cant pick both unforunately last point to spare
marble crater
So am asking which of soulstealer and essence harvest is better
Soulstealer, imo
7,5% toughness on every warp kill is better than 30% on elite kills and a % chance on normal kills.
Just need to kill 4 poxwalkers for the same value and there is no RNG involved, I like consistency
sharp crypt
I like that ! Thanks man! Yeah I didnt think about the rng of essence harvest. Appreciate you
glacial vapor
signal gulch
Soulstealer and assail with the extra targets is hilarious, you can go full Yondu into a crowd whenever your toughness starts to dip
deft stump
New event... but I wanted to play Oblivion...
Be poor. Ezy.
marble crater
How does being poor help me?
blissful solar
only got darktide to play i guess
marble crater
I play Darktide through Gamepass and Oblivion is also on there now
radiant frigate
what is gamepass
blissful solar
it's microsoft's Netflix but for video games
wraith sphinx
TES games are pretty boring to me so the choice is obvious
deft stump
only got darktide to play i guess
More or less.
tired estuary
the new event seems kind of nothingness
wdym you don't want to play normal fucking aurics to do a ps2 minigame 20 times
plucky flax
Is there penances and framed and stuff?
eager jackal
Hey, I used to do like 40+% of team damage as Flamestaff psyker in high havoc in January. I returned now and I struggle to replicate that now. Did they change anything for soulblaze psyker?
wraith sphinx
sooo where tf are these new corrupted communicators supposed to be? almost done w a consignment yard mission, theyre nowhere ot be found
nvm found one
jovial juniper
Hey, I used to do like 40+% of team damage as Flamestaff psyker in high havoc ...
They made it better
You probably got the condition where killing stuff makes other stuff tougher
eager jackal
Made it better how? Quell cancel is different now but i didn't use that very often, also cooldown aura used to be 5% and now is 4%
plucky flax
Hey, I used to do like 40+% of team damage as Flamestaff psyker in high havoc ...
Ogryn got buff so they do a lot of damage now.
wraith sphinx
knife skin is nice
you weren't capping, I like it
formal harness
Hey, I used to do like 40+% of team damage as Flamestaff psyker in high havoc ...
They also made it worse as quell cancel m1 is gone, so your safety net has bigger holes in it now
Damage should still be alright if you can m2 stream
eager jackal
I will try trauma staff
summer prairie
the damage is the same or better, your team is probably just doing more than before
upbeat kestrel
you weren't capping, I like it
Youre levitating it. Like a psyker would
eager jackal
the damage is the same or better, your team is probably just doing more than bef...
Sounds good, i just wanted to know if there were any major nerfs
tired estuary
If there are any ogryns in your team they're probably doing way more dmg than they would've before
wraith sphinx
has anyone here tried running a combat shotgun gunker? I'm fooling around with the various marks and blessings but whatever I slap together just feels bad and not fun to use
plucky flax
I used kantrael
idle plover
Zarona with full bore and no respite
wraith sphinx
I don't see a kantrael mark
idle plover
But most prefer agripinaa and kantarel
weary idol
wraith sphinx
tnx
wraith sphinx
I don't know the old mark names, which one is that?
e.g. what special does it have
mental rock
kantrael is what the flame shotty was called
wraith sphinx
I see
mental rock
when it was released the flame shot had infinite cleave and went through walls
wraith sphinx
rn it's agripinaa - slug
zarona - scattershot
accatran - dragons breath
weary idol
anyways plus unyielding because zarona shotgun has the best finesse of the shotguns
mental rock
now it has been neutered comparatively
wraith sphinx
holy crackers
weary idol
wraith sphinx
yea I was told they aren't what they used to be apparently
weary idol
2 shots reapers consistently with DD stacks active
remember to aim high because the minimum pellet count on hit is higher than the actual amount of pellets it fires
and if any hit the body/shoulder you lose damage
wraith sphinx
gotcha
weary idol
also relatively consistently 2 shots every special/elite
marble crater
I don't see a kantrael mark
Fatshark moment of renaming things for no reason
plucky flax
I don't see a kantrael mark
Its the accatran they changed name wtf. The fire shotgun
brazen rampart
Kantrael > Accatran
Lawbringer > Zarona
Agripinaa is still Agripinaa
marble crater
Also still no reason to do that
zinc phoenix
anyways plus unyielding because zarona shotgun has the best finesse of the shotg...
That’s a lot of buff stacking
What happens when you’re low on buffs?
Or when you don’t actually crit
weary idol
What happens when you’re low on buffs?
1380 with no crit and no buffs
zinc phoenix
Ok so basically it’s a total gimmick
weary idol
no buffs crit is 1765
well yeah but they asked for shotgun psyker
and zarona is probably the best one for that
zinc phoenix
Either it one shots the target when you have an implausible number of buffs or you empty the mag and just manage to kill it
weary idol
because with buffs, at least the easy ones to keep active
DD at ~12 stacks is not implausible
and that's a 2 shot
zinc phoenix
Meatgrinder hero
weary idol
I have literally used it and one shot reaper platoons in real games
I haven't used it in havoc only because it does not have enough ammo to justify there
zinc phoenix
And I’m sure you’ve also used it to blast ineffectually at a single reaper
weary idol
uh
no
because I'm almost always at high enough DD stacks for it to at least 2 shot them
but the main reason you'd use it is for funny manstopper horde clear
same as the double barrel
this is the part that really needs the buffs to all be up though
brazen rampart
I can say from using combat shotguns on gunker that they aren't wrong, they're quite effective at obliterating things when you stack up dd and scriers.
weary idol
I mean what isn't really
zinc phoenix
Yes
brazen rampart
You don't "blast ineffectually" at anything, shit just gets rocked with combat shotguns.
wraith sphinx
Tbf that is gunker 101
zinc phoenix
But that buff dependency is risky
brazen rampart
Its.
zinc phoenix
Which makes it a gimmick
brazen rampart
Disrupt destiny.
Which you should always have 15 stacks of.
That's not a risky buff dependency.
zinc phoenix
Which you should always have 15 stacks of.
>enters an elevator
weary idol
DD isn't really that hard to keep up
brazen rampart
Risky buff dependency is something like 5 stacks of malefic.
weary idol
\>enters an elevator
4 stacks have gone by the time the elevator is done
I kill one basic shooter sitting outside the elevator
back to 14 baby
zinc phoenix
I kill one basic shooter sitting outside the elevator
Assuming he blue
brazen rampart
\>enters an elevator
you still have at least 10 stacks by the time an elevator segment is over
wraith sphinx
But that buff dependency is risky
It might seem so at first but there's so many enemies on damnation+ you'll never run out of dd targets
zinc phoenix
Ten stacks is below the 2 shot threshold
weary idol
why would he not be blue
brazen rampart
Your point isn't even a point.
weary idol
who else would be blue
since I'm in an elevator
DD is just waiting to target something
wraith sphinx
Everything except groaners and poxwalkers can be blue
zinc phoenix
For instance on water silo you have a long elevator followed by a massive reaper and crusher blob
And then usually some bosses
It isn’t ideal to pop into that situation with a combat shotgun and a bunch of buffs like the SG overhang or DD fallen away or reduced substantially
brazen rampart
So you lose a few dd stacks, then when you get to the top, you more than make up for it by just popping scriers with that 10% flat damage buff.
Congratulations, you are back over the 2shot mark by pressing f.
zinc phoenix
Can it be handled? Sure, but other guns handle it better and with greater ammo efficiency
brazen rampart
I think you are just shitting on the build for no reason tbh.
wraith sphinx
You lose a couple % of extra damage which you replenish easily, you'll be fine
zinc phoenix
So if you want to meme with combat shotty psyker sure it’s fun sometimes but I wouldn’t recommend it outside of auric mael
weary idol
uh yeah but the killing reapers thing isn't the...point?
it's just something it does ontop of the actual reason you'd use it
which is manstopper horde clear
brazen rampart
Combat shotguns are lackluster outside of this specific setup, trust me, I'm aware, I've used them on all 3 classes with all 3 models, but to call this setup bad is hilarious.
weary idol
cause y'know that's pretty cool
zinc phoenix
uh yeah but the killing reapers thing isn't the...point?
Ammo dependent horde clear on the class with unlimited cleave no ammo dependency horde clear melee and ranged options?
weary idol
it's faster if I'm not using FGS or don't have it charged
zinc phoenix
🤷♀️
weary idol
also it has range
wraith sphinx
Also yeah combat shotguns are too lackluster for me to seriously consider bringing into havoc lol
weary idol
and kills shooters
plus I get to kill reapers which the unlimited cleave no ammo dependency options don't do
zinc phoenix
Assail also kills shooters
Numerous guns are massively more efficient at killing reapers
As a meme it’s fun sometimes don’t get me wrong
I do not dispute the hilarity of shotgun wizard
weary idol
do the same other guns that kill reapers also have good horde clear
zinc phoenix
Why would I need horde clear as a gunker when I can bring a fgs?
zinc phoenix
Effectively infinite cleave moonbeam
Fo free
Charged by doing what you’d do anyway when there’s a horde around
brazen rampart
Numerous guns are massively more efficient at killing reapers
Not really.
The only gun that can oneshot a reaper that psyker has is revolver or a slug shot. Everything else is 2taps.
And iirc zarona has the highest fire rate of all the combat shotguns.
zinc phoenix
The only gun that can oneshot a reaper that psyker has is revolver or a slug sho...
2taps or burn downs and without dumping large amounts of your ammo when the buffs aren’t up + there’s no wildly unpredictable damage swings
weary idol
what is your obsession with the idea of the buffs being up
it's fuckin' disrupt destiny bro
that shit is always up if you aren't using perfectionism like a weirdo
or the game disconnects you
zinc phoenix
*or the game disconnects you*
There are loads of situations where DD isn’t up or isn’t anywhere near max
Anytime there’s more than a minute of dead time or a boss fight
It’s basically gone
weary idol
boss fights doesn't happen anymore
zinc phoenix
Ok
weary idol
dealing damage to a monstrosity resets DD's timer
brazen rampart
I think at this point he is just rage baiting because he refutes the idea of combat shotguns being even remotely capable of being good.
weary idol
I doubt it
zinc phoenix
I think at this point he is just rage baiting because he refutes the idea of com...
You’d have to link to me saying that literally anywhere
weary idol
This is the literal only time that I would ever say combat shotguns are usable so it's definitely a fringe time to use them
patent mango
combat shotguns are so forgettable lol
weary idol
And even then they're still not good in havoc because you don't get enough ammo
But that's the only reason really
zinc phoenix
It’s more that you guys are refusing to accept that there are significant weaknesses that leave it underperforming the very best guns in most situations but still a fun build option that outperforms low quality stuff like autopistol or basic las and situationally out performs most mid tier options
weary idol
basically the same story for the double barrel on veteran
it's a great weapon, but it's unusable on havoc because no ammo
It's hilarious that you mention the autopistol as "low quality" stuff
Because that has been my go to gun for gun psyker playing havoc lol
zinc phoenix
Auto pistol is definitely still ass
patent mango
autopistol buffs didnt feel like enough 2 me but idk
brazen rampart
It’s more that you guys are refusing to accept that there are significant weakne...
Nobody said they didn't have drawbacks.
wraith sphinx
to clarify I was asking for a general use case, if I wanted to know if there were a viable havoc build for the combat shotgun, I would've just said so.
also please be nice
brazen rampart
Combat shotguns are lackluster outside of this specific setup, trust me, I'm awa...
In fact I said this.
patent mango
mayb autopistol gets more buffs 🙏
zinc phoenix
Nobody said they didn't have drawbacks.
Ok, then we agree 🤷♀️ idk why you have brought so much heat
weary idol
I think autopistol in its current state is adequate for Zealot/Psyker
It is straight ass on vet
but Psyker/Zealot can get a lot of value out of it as an accessory to their melee weapon
since it has high suppression/stagger, and good mobility +sprint while firing
It's very good for forcibly closing the gap with ranged enemies
And has high maniac damage for killing specialists/rager swarms at range
wraith sphinx
yeah I like running autopistol on both those classes
pairs great with a mobile melee too
zinc phoenix
I think autopistol in its current state is *adequate* for Zealot/Psyker
I think it’s a straight downgrade of laspistol in basically any situation
What would heal it is if it had virtually unlimited ammo
There are many situations where I’d prefer a massively ammo efficient autopistol over the laspistol even at the cost of performance
weary idol
well autopistol has nearly double the dps of laspistol so I don't think it'd be entirely fair for it to have similar ammo efficiency
ontop of the autopistol having more utility
zinc phoenix
Yeah but dps against what
weary idol
maniacs
zinc phoenix
Because laspistol deletes unyielding
weary idol
laspistol built like this
patent mango
laspistol finesse stats seem pretty silly idk what they are
zinc phoenix
laspistol built like this
Why would you not use fire
Why would you not use unyielding + crit chance
weary idol
autopistol built similarly
zinc phoenix
Like that just seems like a laspistol not playing to its strength of deleting unyielding
weary idol
just undr 2K dps is far from what I'd consider "deleting" unyielding
what I'd consider deleting unyielding is the natural 3K dps of something like the Combat Shotgun :)
patent mango
the thingamabob
weary idol
of course autopistol has falloff and spread
so it gets worse the further away you are
patent mango
i dont like innacurate guns they're so annoying
weary idol
or the infantry autoguns
strange wyvern
Does brain burst with a crit one tap bulwarks/crushers?
weary idol
this deletes unyielding
wraith sphinx
I don't have any issues "sniping" with braced weapons in an emergency
frustrating to do though
weary idol
laspistol sure does kill unyielding but it ain't "deleting" them
marble crater
Does brain burst with a crit one tap bulwarks/crushers?
It can't crit
strange wyvern
It can't crit
oh ok
patent mango
i like laspistol recon lasgun or bistol they hit wher i aim
strange wyvern
didn't know if my luck just sucked
zinc phoenix
just undr 2K dps is far from what I'd consider "deleting" unyielding
Are you building the way you showed up there?
marble crater
You shouldn't use it on ogryn enemies
patent mango
laspistol always felt like it obliterates flak enemies
weary idol
I have ghost on it because I'm not letting RNGesus take the wheel on whether I live or die
zinc phoenix
Try again with dumdum fire crit chance unyielding
Ghost when you have empathic evasion my sides
strange wyvern
laspistol always felt like it obliterates flak enemies
it does more against flak than it does vs unarmored lmao
weary idol
I hve managed to die to shooters while magdumping a recon lasgun during scriers gaze
I am not taking any chances
patent mango
it does more against flak than it does vs unarmored lmao
its peak
patent mango
I hve managed to die to shooters while magdumping a recon lasgun during scriers ...
how
zinc phoenix
I am not taking any chances
Laspistol crit chance on gunker is extremely high
Like if you aren’t building it as a dps monster against unyielding you can’t complain that it underperforms
strange wyvern
You shouldn't use it on ogryn enemies
Probably not but being able to kill it in 2 bursts doesn't feel terrible either
weary idol
better but still lower than just what the infantry autoguns do By default
zinc phoenix
better but still lower than just what the infantry autoguns do *By default*
Show the setup
Total lack of buffs too
weary idol
weary idol
Total lack of buffs too
oh so now the buffs aren't a problem
zinc phoenix
oh so now the buffs aren't a problem
The only buff you need is active sg
Which laspistol can sustain easily if you take ranged crit removes peril
strange wyvern
does by the crack of bone work with sg active?
patent mango
does by the crack of bone work with sg active?
thats the best usage of it yea
weary idol
yeah it gets 4K with SG active (at high stacks)
or I can y'know
use an infantry autogun with no buffs
actually hang on this is an agri iag
it can be faster
yeah
strange wyvern
thats the best usage of it yea
So is there a limit to maximum uptime of it, or can you really just keep it running so long as you have enemies to kill?
zinc phoenix
use an infantry autogun with no buffs
The IAG and recon las are more deadly but have lower move speed
strange wyvern
Shriek is all I know
patent mango
So is there a limit to maximum uptime of it, or can you really just keep it runn...
you can just keep it up forever theoretically
zinc phoenix
That’s the trade off and it’s a reasonable one
zinc phoenix
It’s still much much higher than the auto pistol which is what we were actually comparing
Las pistol also has advantage of easy head shot
Which is very helpful against boss weak spots
weary idol
is it?
autopistol without any +unyielding or building into it at all is 2607 before buffs
laspistol was just under 2K
of course that's hitting every headshot
at close range
which probably isn't going to happen
zinc phoenix
I mean 😂
strange wyvern
Which is very helpful against boss weak spots
i mean most of them are massive, it's not like the recoil throws your aim off it unless you're trying to cross room it for some reason
zinc phoenix
Maybe someone can do that in game
zinc phoenix
i mean most of them are massive, it's not like the recoil throws your aim off it...
There are a lot of situations where boss is slapping someone in a big space and I am running toward it shooting the weak spot 🤷♀️
Its niche I admit
Also long range reaper headshots v handy
weary idol
https://imgur.com/a/XJagbdS laspistol is actually only 4 seconds faster to kill a plague ogryn than autopistol
course y'know it's a lot easier to get the optimal TTK for laspistol than it is for the autopistol
plucky flax
Use recon lasguns. 
upper sun
its finally darktide time bros.....
marble crater
You are back home? There is a list of people who need help with MM
upper sun
its ok kerien helped them all
remote nacelle
anyone got a good havok 40 build for wizard?
marble crater
anyone got a good havok 40 build for wizard?
I have these two, for Voidblast and Inferno
remote nacelle
I have these two, for Voidblast and Inferno
for infero what perks and blessings
and im guessing the infero is the right photo?
marble crater
Yes, I use Flak, Unyielding, Nexus and Blaze Away
remote nacelle
Yes, I use Flak, Unyielding, Nexus and Blaze Away
what melee?
marble crater
Deimos or Dueling Sword
marble crater
Maniac, Carapace, Uncanny and second blessing is a bit up to you, I use Deflector
marble crater
There is also new slop
upper sun
its hunting grounds and poxgas
im gonna do it for this time
IM REALLY GONNA DO IT
IM NOT GONNA QUELL
marble crater
Peril IRL?
upper sun
ye
marble crater
Ok
upper sun
god why cant they just do high intensity shocktroop for all events
@marble crater bruh
this is not slop
the shield is fire
marble crater
Most is slop
weary idol
the shield is fire
literally just a white slab shield with some wax scripture on it
weary idol
in any other game that shit ass skin would be FREE
deft stump
in any other game that shit ass skin would be *FREE*
Or an unlock off an achievement.
deft stump
in any other game that shit ass skin would be *FREE*
Too be fair, they charge $18 for sets that should be commissary tier.
weary idol
almost every paid set has recolored penance cosmetics
some of them have slightly different shoes though so that makes them better :)
zinc phoenix
https://imgur.com/a/XJagbdS laspistol is actually only 4 seconds faster to kill ...
at point blank
plucky flax
I have these two, for Voidblast and Inferno
Do you even havoc bro?
marble crater
Do you even havoc bro?
Please no flame
drifting steeple
I have these two, for Voidblast and Inferno
which is which
wraith sphinx
Which witch is watching which watch
zinc phoenix
which is which
empyric resolve isnt needed on burgeratus
civic vector
is there any havoc builds ... i can't find it in the pin
analog agate
They aren’t pinned. But if you ask for a specific one someone will post theirs. Sut posted his an hour ago if you scroll up
strange wyvern
They aren’t pinned. But if you ask for a specific one someone will post theirs. ...
I can post mine (guranteed to get you vote kicked within 10 minutes)
civic vector
I can post mine (guranteed to get you vote kicked within 10 minutes)
i can beat urs with mine (kicked in 5 mins)
manic bridge
I keep trying to make the chain axe work for psyker and everytime it's disappointing.
cloud night
literally just a white slab shield with some wax scripture on it
Mfw i bought that mf months ago just to have a diff skin and i see that shit again
upper sun
i will litearlly buy anything with a simple design and purity seals(thats less than 900)
cloud night
I forgot how much it was back then
wraith sphinx
smth like that yeah
this is a reskin of the aquilan blade which I'm pretty sure cost 900 so that checks out
the combat blade skin is 900 though and I can see another skin using the same model already exists
dull scroll
is there any havoc builds ... i can't find it in the pin
my burga
torn kernel
what's KR doing there
plucky flax
i can beat urs with mine (kicked in 5 mins)
They wouldn't even want to start the game with my build.
wraith sphinx
who ghost pinged me
fiery stratus
me 1 sec
i uploaded something but it was wrong format
there we go
nvidia screenshots look like shit
marble crater
Looks like a dueling sword all right
fiery stratus
its the same skin as the new one
wraith sphinx
yeah
narrow herald
Can u CC enemies with the red buff with the Trauma staff? 🤔
wraith sphinx
eleganzia is a recolor of that one
marble crater
Can u CC enemies with the red buff with the Trauma staff? 🤔
Is red the elite enrage? I would think not then
marble crater
The bone looks so stupid 
wraith sphinx
I think only the vigilant ag skin looked fine to me
wraith sphinx
I'm only interested in psyker cosmetics
I dig the truskan psyker set for example but the snow camo looks really silly and individual pieces don't mix with anything else due to huge amounts of clipping
like,
snow camo
only one mission in the game has snow and only partially
fiery stratus
the books are for all humans
wraith sphinx
ah
fiery stratus
i really hate psyker collars, thats a big thing that keeps me from buying a lot of cosmetics
marble crater
But lore
wraith sphinx
I like them when they're stylized functionally like in the aforementioned set
the base grimshart look of tubes portruding everywhere is really tiresome because almost every single free cosmetic is like that to a degree
no comment on headwear though, I've been wearing the gardooshan faceshroud since the moment I unlocked it
which was about uh, 500, 600 hours ago?
warm gale
wraith sphinx
when I first got the game I also got the savlar set with the imperial edition aquilas
it looks cool but the pouches also kind annoy me
psykers also have pretty bad glove game imho
analog agate
I have bought way too many sets and wasted way too much money on them. All because I just use the pirate hat, bloodborne cloak, and peg leg
wraith sphinx
I have bought way too many sets and wasted way too much money on them. All becau...
I'm really thankful for the cosmetics preview mod, cured me of the urge to spend aquilas on something I'll end up never wearing later
like I'm still obviously fine with buying the stuff and all but now I know what kind of drip I want to get
warm gale
inferno staff perks and blessings?
analog agate
Blaze away/nexus and flak/unyielding
warm gale
ty
glad knoll
getting called a moron for using scrollwheel to cycle weapons in an elevator. Interesting
upper sun
getting called a moron for using scrollwheel to cycle weapons in an elevator. In...
how does this come up?
marble crater
No
upper sun
nah
warm gale
can anyone give me a smite skilltree? i never used it
upper sun
kino is up
marble crater
upper sun
hab dreyko coms shock troop
long wharf
can anyone give me a smite skilltree? i never used it
Keep it this way
long wharf
Ew
marble crater
hab dreyko coms shock troop
Is it lights out? If not it's not kino
glad knoll
but i need the pennance
go left side to smite then middle
proper osprey
getting called a moron for using scrollwheel to cycle weapons in an elevator. In...
Same energy
upper sun
Is it lights out? If not it's not kino
no just shocktrooper
proper osprey
glad knoll
Same energy
wtf
glad knoll
good
warm gale
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9eba29fe-cd4c-4efb-b6bf-7c245aa8ee05/my...
thats the best build ive ever seen in darktide. No bs, no 50 page description thanks
proper osprey
And he went crazy
glad knoll
haha some people
wraith sphinx
thats the best build ive ever seen in darktide. No bs, no 50 page description th...
happy to help, enjoy!
warm gale
thankies
cloud night
Called him a goober
Should've called him a goofy goober from spongebob
Bet he would've flipped shit even more
warm gale
happy to help, enjoy!
if you have more of them 9 IQ builds throw em my way
proper osprey
inferno staff perks and blessings?
Blaze away + warp nexus, flak + crit chance
Warp res dump
warm gale
Warp res dump
yeah i got a 60% warp res thats why i asked 😄
wraith sphinx
if you have more of them 9 IQ builds throw em my way
I don't unfortunately. I'm like one of 5 people who play gunker and nothing else
warm gale
thanks
proper osprey
Should've called him a goofy goober from spongebob
Bet he would've flipped shit...
I like when he went “AWOOGA REDDIT”
warm gale
I don't unfortunately. I'm like one of 5 people who play gunker and nothing else
appreciate it regardless
cloud night
Lmfao
warm gale
are there any guns only psyker can use ? ( not staffs )
marble crater
no just shocktrooper
Not worth it then for my injured wrist
marble crater
are there any guns only psyker can use ? ( not staffs )
No
prime elk
are there any guns only psyker can use ? ( not staffs )
No
nocturne dust
Laspistol gets a unique animation for psyker
marble crater
But there should be a force gun for gunker builds
wraith sphinx
are you on phone?
warm gale
PC
nocturne dust
how do you guys link a skilltree entirely in chat?
warm gale
does not no
nocturne dust
We don't use Darktide
wraith sphinx
rip
nocturne dust
But there should be a force gun for gunker builds <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090...
I disagree, honestly
warm gale
isnt that just a plasma gun?
nocturne dust
Let the blunts have their guns, we have staves
warm gale
XD
proper osprey
But there should be a force gun for gunker builds <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090...
Welcome back quell cancel
dull scroll
Welcome back quell cancel
nocturne dust
A gun where before firing you have to charge it, and it should have a really big bullet with high cleave and damage. And also it generates peril on attack and has infinite ammo. And also is called Voidstrike.
proper osprey
https://tenor.com/view/its-dead-son-love-death-and-robots-its-not-alive-anymore-...
Watch that be the 5th staff
nocturne dust
yuck
proper osprey
Smyker yucky but that’ll get the pen done fast lol
warm gale
thats what im trying lol
proper osprey
thats what im trying lol
Use it with scries
nocturne dust
Oh, if it's for a penance it's understandable
warm gale
Use it with scries
whats scries ?
cloud night
Bro didnt even take warp rider what is this bullshit?
proper osprey
10 seconds of unlimited smite
proper osprey
whats scries ?
Scries gaze on the right
warm gale
Bro didnt even take warp rider what is this bullshit?
idk what that is LOL
nocturne dust
Bro didnt even take warp rider what is this bullshit?
smite build
almost impossible to blow up with smite
crystalline will
warm gale
> smite build
> almost impossible to blow up with smite
> crystalline will
share build XD
nocturne dust
idk what that is LOL
You see that node down at the bottom that lets you explode and not die? You've taken the 2nd worst node on the tree instead of the best node to the left of it
cloud night
Wait no nvm
I aint thinkin right
nocturne dust
share build XD
no, that's about your build
cloud night
Fuckin hate being sick
Makes me question what i already know lmao
warm gale
@nocturne dust fixed
nocturne dust
This is the (ab)normal unholy infinite smyker
marble crater
I hate it here
nocturne dust
You could also drop soulstealer for BM for even longer smite
This is classic 'I have things to do today' smite
nocturne dust
I hate it here
marble crater
Sloptide
proper osprey
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ec10d0c-a7ff-4faa-9271-02e2b9f44a8b/uoohhh-im-smyker @warm gale
That’s more smite per smite
“Go my smyker and zap to the extreme”
warm gale
whats stamina do?
nocturne dust
The last time I played a smite build was... Hm, weird, that hasn't happened. I did take a smite build into a game, but it devolved into me ignoring the central focus of the build in favor of the staff and sword I brought
remote shadow
This is the (ab)normal unholy infinite smyker
How does Gaze compare to Shriek for overall Smyker effectiveness?
nocturne dust
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ec10d0c-a7ff-4faa-9271-02e2b9f44a8b/uo...
0/10, no ER
Finite Smite build
proper osprey
whats stamina do?
Repositioning and general utility
jovial juniper
How does Gaze compare to Shriek for overall Smyker effectiveness?
You get the funny smite damage for longer
nocturne dust
How does Gaze compare to Shriek for overall Smyker effectiveness?
Scrier's makes smite way longer (if it doesn't bug and kick you out of smite when warp unbound activates, which happened at least before warp unbound got fixed to never explode you, not sure if it does now)
It's technically more damage, but it's practically less since it takes ages, lol
jovial juniper
But no soulblaze damage on top
warm gale
i never seen a +3 stamina
buoyant maple
i never seen a +3 stamina
It’s ok u don’t need them anyway
nocturne dust
It’s ok u don’t need them anyway
proper osprey
It’s ok u don’t need them anyway
nocturne dust
That's something I hard disagree with
They are absolutely worth taking on Psyker due to low base stamina + KD scaling off stamina
wraith sphinx
i never seen a +3 stamina
they're super rare, I only have 1 on my psyker character
I like it because it helps with push attack reliant weapons and beacuse I like running around for a long time
nocturne dust
Funny, max health curios were rare for me
I have like 7+ max stam curios
I don't even look at curios that often
wraith sphinx
I mostly have +2 stam and wound curios 💀
warm gale
i dont have a single max curio of any kind
nocturne dust
Well, that's cuz you're a noob
warm gale
bish I got 150 hours
wraith sphinx
meanwhile only a handful of 21% max health but zero 17% toughness curios
the best I have is 16%
buoyant maple
They are absolutely worth taking on Psyker due to low base stamina + KD scaling ...
KD is preference at best in the first place
wraith sphinx
bish I got 150 hours
aw you're just starting out
don't worry the real game begins now
nocturne dust
KD is preference at best in the first place
People say that and then get boss-slapped into waking up the Daemonhost and pikachu face
warm gale
with a voidstrike staff XD
buoyant maple
KD is like, not ever a talent where it’s “I have to spend 2 points to get this”
warm gale
im actually really decent at sniping elites with it
nocturne dust
KD is always a talent where it's "I have to spend a single point to get this"
warm gale
the one thing I dont suck at
prime elk
I never run KD unless it happens to be in the way
buoyant maple
People say that and then get boss-slapped into waking up the Daemonhost and pika...
Guard break prevents knockback and no boss attacks fast enough to do 2 knockbacks in a row within guard break stun window
nocturne dust
it's right next to warp rider anyway
wraith sphinx
I have around 700 hours but I was also pretty bad and refused to look at psyker guides until like last week
nocturne dust
so it's a single point guaranteed
dull scroll
KD is like, not ever a talent where it’s “I have to spend 2 points to get this”
maybe in auric
nocturne dust
and it is an entire weapon perk
upper sun
OK
wraith sphinx
I played almost every problem psyker archetype under the sun and learned most things the hard way
plucky flax
I play bubble knight without kd (lie)
wraith sphinx
what happened clad
nocturne dust
Guard break prevents knockback and no boss attacks fast enough to do 2 knockback...
Havoc spawning 3 bosses:
buoyant maple
the new event sucks ass
U have to do the mini game thing
upper sun
what happened clad
it reset too many times
buoyant maple
Havoc spawning 3 bosses:
Yea still not required
upper sun
U have to do the mini game thing
yes
wraith sphinx
oh yeah
warm gale
what minigame?
upper sun
it kept resetting
wraith sphinx
you have to fiddle with the sine waves until you hear radio chatter
buoyant maple
it kept resetting
Just link it up
upper sun
because it was a milimeter off
nocturne dust
Yea still not required
Nothing is, so I fail to see your point
upper sun
I DID
wraith sphinx
it's very time consuming
nocturne dust
I'm sure somebody will complete Havoc with a rusty spoon and gumption, but for us mortals KD is incredibly valuable
wraith sphinx
I'm honestly dissapointed as well
wraith sphinx
it also fucks with mission pacing too
"Hold up fellow rejects we need to play subway surfers for 1 minute"
buoyant maple
Nothing is, so I fail to see your point
I said preference at best
I didn’t say “don’t take it”
nocturne dust
What even qualifies as not preference
buoyant maple
Psyker has 2 ish points worth of choice at the end of a build and I don’t think KD is usually worth those 2 points
nocturne dust
KD is like the 4th most valuable node on the tree behind warp rider, perilous combustion, and psykinetics. And even then, it's actually 2nd depending on your other choices.
jovial juniper
"Hold up fellow rejects we need to play subway surfers for 1 minute"
funky OST starts playing
wraith sphinx
I think KD is S tier
nocturne dust
Psyker has 2 ish points worth of choice at the end of a build and I don’t think ...
Again, the node above it is 5% crit chance
You should be taking that small node regardless
nocturne dust
I think KD is S tier
It very much is
wraith sphinx
dw agent you'll secure the mythical havoc 80 dub one day
remote shadow
"Hold up fellow rejects we need to play subway surfers for 1 minute"
Are the event missions timed?
upper sun
🚬 anyone wanna speed run event with me?
dull scroll
that shit allows you to spam push vs bursters while tanking a horde
upper sun
(also do the puzzle for me)
plucky flax
🚬 anyone wanna speed run event with me?
No.
wraith sphinx
Are the event missions timed?
no, you just need to solve it before extracting
wraith sphinx
🚬 anyone wanna speed run event with me?
sure but which server are you on
buoyant maple
Again, the node above it is 5% crit chance
Even that isn’t fully required, it’s just nice to have
upper sun
eu
upper sun
ye
nocturne dust
Even that isn’t fully required, it’s just nice to have
Again, that's because nothing is required so I fail to see your point
wraith sphinx
ok I'll add you
nocturne dust
You could not name a node on the tree you have to take
Even Warp Rider is only like 10% damage if you're not a hard edger
buoyant maple
Yea warp rider is somewhat overrated too
It’s just by comparison usually better than +2 stacks of warp charges in terms of damage
nocturne dust
Nothing is required, everything is permitted (except Unlucky for Some )
plucky flax
Survivalist aura is not required.
Shredder nade not required.
30% weakspot node not required.
dull scroll
The shout is overrated
plucky flax
-6 cdr on shout not required.
buoyant maple
30% weakspot node not required.
Vet has breakpoints unlike psyker
plucky flax
buoyant maple
dull scroll
breakpoints overrated
buoyant maple
10% ish dps is a lot less transformative than straight breakpoint upgrades
plucky flax
See it's that shrimple.
dull scroll
hitting more shows skill
nocturne dust
Vet has breakpoints unlike psyker
Psyker has BPs in every build that isn't Inferno, they're just combat BPs and not 'all the time' BPs.
plucky flax
Like free damage on warp rider is not required then free damage on weakspot hit is also not.
buoyant maple
Like free damage on warp rider is not required then free damage on weakspot hit ...
Going from 1s TTK to 0s TTK is a very big difference compared to going from 0.9s TTK to 0.85s TTK
Idk what else to say
nocturne dust
Except Soulblaze damage lets you not use a whole new attack on your staff, which generally have bigger attack times than guns
Soulblaze is still working with BPs at the end of the day
plucky flax
Idk what else to say
Well what about warp rider boosting up soulblaze damage on everything and thus maybe kill 1 or 2 elites a couple seconds faster and get PC rolloing more? Idunno
dull scroll
all these top tier talents are not actually top tier, just post a H40 build and let us see what exactly we should be speccing then
plucky flax
Get that juicy 31 stacks soulblaze on massive elites horde.
nocturne dust
all these top tier talents are not actually top tier, just post a H40 build and ...
Unlucky for Some 🗿
buoyant maple
Well what about warp rider boosting up soulblaze damage on everything and thus m...
10% warp damage on its own is not gonna make soulblaze kill groups of elites that much faster, with a DoT that ticks once every 0.75s
You can take all these additive damage bonuses because psyker tree has no real thoughtful damage talent choices so it’s just “add more” in the end
plucky flax
It's up to 20% damage if your peril is high and it affects all sources of damage.
warm gale
where do yall even farm curios ?
buoyant maple
It's up to 20% damage if your peril is high and it affects all sources of damage...
Yes, on avg 10-15%, additive to all the extra stuff
10-15% on its own is not that much more
dull scroll
these talks of how good a talent is by themselves is ultimately meaningless, the real question is if you don't spec said xx talent what would you spec instead, which is why, just post build
buoyant maple
these talks of how good a talent is by themselves is ultimately meaningless, the...
I’d much rather take stuff like BB faster charge on ult or wildfire personally
dull scroll
I’d much rather take stuff like BB faster charge on ult or wildfire personally
post a pic of full tree
nocturne dust
where do yall even farm curios ?
Check brunt on login
plucky flax
I’d much rather take stuff like BB faster charge on ult or wildfire personally
Okay fair personally to you. But all the psykers I know pick warp rider over faster bb charge.
plucky flax
Kinda sus information spreading.
strong gulch
where do yall even farm curios ?
The hourly shop (servitor), daily shop limited acquisitions from Melk, and rando gambling at Melk.
buoyant maple
Okay fair personally to you. But all the psykers I know pick warp rider over fas...
I thought this was talking about KD choice
And I don’t take KD over those others
jovial juniper
You can take all these additive damage bonuses because psyker tree has no real t...
nocturne dust
I would literally still always take KD if it was swapped with true aim's position
buoyant maple
If you add warp rider into the same boat as KD then it’s 4 free points which changes things up a lot more
plucky flax
I thought this was talking about KD choice
Okay interesting havoc build then. I'm sure you're pro enough to do it.
Me noob me kd abuser.
Me bubble knight. 
modest perch
is full soulblaze still the high havoc "meta" these days ?
nocturne dust
yes
plucky flax
Yeah sure just use burga + creeping flames/bubble and chill.
nocturne dust
dull scroll
is full soulblaze still the high havoc "meta" these days ?
it's burga, king of meta
plucky flax
I played burga creeping flames with both warp rider and KD did 1.6 mil damage in 31 mins no mobien21st. 
buoyant maple
Why do you not already have those
What would u change here
modest perch
I played burga creeping flames with both warp rider and KD did 1.6 mil damage in...
lets see paul allens havoc build
buoyant maple
Drop OWTW?
plucky flax
What would u change here
Remove quietude and one with the warp or whatever it's called alongside ee
proper osprey
Kd isn’t needed I don’t need to block that much
modest perch
What would u change here
maybe take battle
med ?
nocturne dust
What would u change here
Depends what you're running, but OwtW or EE normally. Soulstealer potentially.
proper osprey
Why are you sitting in the rager fun zone with kd
modest perch
i think the one after mettle could be dropped
buoyant maple
Remove quietude and one with the warp or whatever it's called alongside ee
Fair
plucky flax
i think the one after mettle could be dropped
NO YOU WANT PERFECT TIMING
proper osprey
You must not enter der to begin wif
nocturne dust
also I only count 28 talents used?
modest perch
rly ?
nocturne dust
Am I crazy?
modest perch
buoyant maple
Perfect timing is a little better than warp rider
modest perch
ew
nocturne dust
Perfect timing is a little better than warp rider
yeah but warp rider is universal
proper osprey
Wish kf didn’t have a cool down
upper sun
anyone else for event?
modest perch
wish kf didnt suck so
much
nocturne dust
wat
buoyant maple
yeah but warp rider is universal
Given most of psyker’s damage in havoc is warp damage, it’s not that much different in the end
nocturne dust
KF is great
proper osprey
wish kf didnt suck so
much
It’s alright
strong gulch
anyone else for event?
Event? I'll play
upper sun
😭
buoyant maple
You have KF, I didn't see that
Ya, so idk what’s like a good trade for KD in those cases
upper sun
we just got in
nocturne dust
Given most of psyker’s damage in havoc is warp damage, it’s not that much differ...
At the end of the day, Havoc is not what needs to be balanced around anyway
nocturne dust
Ya, so idk what’s like a good trade for KD in those cases
The talents I said, depending on what you're running for weapons
proper osprey
Ya, so idk what’s like a good trade for KD in those cases
More toughness wif warp expend
strong gulch
we just got in
No worries fren.
upper sun
ill prolly do a couple more in a few hours and tomorrow
plucky flax
Reject burga. Become bubble knight. (You can do more damage than burga but at a much higher risk)
proper osprey
I believe you could put them anywhere you feel like you could get the other node for brain burst
jovial juniper
Perfect timing is a little better than warp rider
buoyant maple
More toughness wif warp expend <:Tomfoolery:1308279033435389964>
100% peril for 25% toughness no thanks
jovial juniper
We should CRIT more
nocturne dust
You can also do quietude instead of soulstealer
jovial juniper
nocturne dust
Reject burga. Become bubble knight. (You can do more damage than burga but at a ...
Yet to see a bubble knight do more damage than my burn stick
proper osprey
You could get more keystone modifiers
nocturne dust
Is just free damage
plucky flax
Yet to see a bubble knight do more damage than my burn stick
Play with me and see I am willing to play US E.
Can't diss the bubble knight. 
nocturne dust
Yeah but that's cuz you're aggressive and I'm too bad at the game for that 😭
strong gulch
Agent chaos things.
buoyant maple
Any build that relies on running ahead to do damage is ultimately just inflating damage
dull scroll
honestly tough regen on psyker like picrel is generally overrated, you just need 1 reliable talent to slowly regen that occasional hit you took in 40, if you taking multiple hits that's a skill issue and no amount of talents gonna help
quietude and bubble been normally enough
nocturne dust
honestly tough regen on psyker like picrel is generally overrated, you just need...
insert big discussion of Empyric Resolve from its release here
buoyant maple
Empyric resolve is one of the only 2 interesting choices in psyker tree
nocturne dust
There were a lot of ER naysayers
dull scroll
> insert big discussion of Empyric Resolve from its release here
I started taking ER even for purge now
buoyant maple
The other is assail vs psykinetic’s aura
nocturne dust
I started taking ER even for purge now
Yes, haha, join me
dull scroll
way too good
buoyant maple
I wish PotS wasn’t abysmal dogshit
nocturne dust
Empyric resolve is one of the only 2 interesting choices in psyker tree
Me taking Scrier's EK 👀
buoyant maple
10% rending for a DoT that has at least 100% ADM across the board against everything but carapace
plucky flax
Any build that relies on running ahead to do damage is ultimately just inflating...
That's all builds though? Whoever kills more get damage score higher.
nocturne dust
Just enjoy the off-meta and interesting choices will find you 
buoyant maple
That's all builds though? Whoever kills more get damage score higher.
There’s a very big difference between knife/DS running ahead to do damage and let’s say, a force great sword that doesn’t run as fast
strong gulch
Just enjoy the off-meta and interesting choices will find you <:uwugryn:10628824...
Did someone say build randomizer??
plucky flax
There’s a very big difference between knife/DS running ahead to do damage and le...
Too bad of them fgs do way more horde clear when I catch up to the rat.
buoyant maple
Too bad of them fgs do way more horde clear when I catch up to the rat. <:whatth...
Yea, so in this case knife/DS’s damage is mostly inflated
Because they have to run ahead to come close to FGS most of the time
nocturne dust
This is why I use knife for speed for 🍔
buoyant maple
Slightly more extreme example is like, knife vs Rashad
U can match same damage for them in the same game, but most of knife’s damage will be inflated
plucky flax
Maybe in auric. I don't see many zealot running far ahead in havoc. Mostly to disrupt backline then choir and run back to group.
buoyant maple
I don’t consider that fair judgement
plucky flax
I only use lfg tool so I don't play with super pro solo h40 zealots.
nocturne dust
Where are these solo h40 zealots
buoyant maple
I personally find running ahead to hit things to inflate damage pretty boring
nocturne dust
Can they carry me through missions until I finish Havoc penances
buoyant maple
It’s not indicative of anything
nocturne dust
Well, sometimes it's useful
Like taking out a gunner pack before it can threaten the group
buoyant maple
Running ahead is basically pure detriment in havoc now
plucky flax
Auric get pretty boring if there's another extremely good player so the only thing left to do between 2 good guys are epeen damage scoreboard chasing.
buoyant maple
U just trigger extra spawns
nocturne dust
Running ahead is basically pure detriment in havoc now
always has been
buoyant maple
always has been
Nah before the spawn system changes it was the best strategy
U just run ahead as a whole team and break game spawns
dull scroll
certain people who plays zealot/ogyrn wants to pad their scoreboard and charges ahead of team
nocturne dust
U just run ahead as a whole team and break game spawns
That's only if you wanted to break the game tho
buoyant maple
That's only if you wanted to break the game tho
Yes, and it was the easiest way to win
So ofc people do that
proper osprey
Auric get pretty boring if there's another extremely good player so the only thi...
You didn’t have to call me out like that
buoyant maple
It’s still the same case outside of havoc
plucky flax
You didn’t have to call me out like that
nocturne dust
actually playing the game is what I do
proper osprey
<:ikneel:1075784457648357416>
When I play piety knife I chase is so hard bro is unreal
plucky flax
actually playing the game is what I do
If you want to play tomorrow I can bubble knight you can burga.
Get a vet and a zealot then call it a day.
buoyant maple
They should integrate some havoc features into base game