psyker-class

[marble crater]

Guys, new meta for freeing yourself from dogs

[elder glade]

Ah, gravity

[jovial juniper]

Video game stairs being video game stairs

[tough vine]

I really don't understand what Crystalline Warp does. Do you take a wound instead of getting knocked down ?

[rich spindle]

Yes

[analog agate]

It is such a strange talent.

[prime elk]

Should’ve made martyrdom psyker a reality

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-verge-of-greatness-gif-13754250

[marble crater]

Don't give people a reason to take wound curios

[analog agate]

Ya…. Now 2/3 blitzes have the quell function. Make bubble quell 3% or something to save you too. And then either replace the talent or make it fit into a build somehow

[plucky flax]

Pog

[marble crater]

Make bubble quell for every second you are inside

[strong gulch]

If that was for all shields, it would be a funny lil nerf to double wall EP BB.

But also I have legitimately tried to put bubble down to "save myself" lmao

[analog agate]

I do like that that quirky build has been left alone

Crystalline will is already to the EP path. Fuck it and make some of the mortis trials boons that talent

[prime elk]

They’ll do it anyways

[strong gulch]

Make KR base BB and add the aoe BB kill thing.

[marble crater]

[analog agate]

That would be so awesome

[jovial juniper]

Yes and you pop basically instantly instead of going into the woops animation

[glacial vapor]

Noted, I will forever be on a ledge with a dog nearby

[jovial juniper]

Bubble but you auto quell inside it

[analog agate]

Would be a buff to staves besides inferno

Well, EK definitely. And I think non stop VB blasts is better than the increases crit chance and warprider on a hit

[lone ravine]

It also reduces explosion dmg iirc

[nocturne dust]

We can't have that, so make bubble warp unbound-style

[strong gulch]

Iirc, the damage from exploding has damage falloff the farther from the epicenter and enemy is. Because of the "whoops" animation and how that can slide you around, CW can be more damage because of the shorter "whops" animation.

[nocturne dust]

I don't think I've ever actually used CW

Fatshark, martyr psyker when 🙏

[plucky flax]

I have its based

Need it in sedition

[prime elk]

I wouldn’t have made it through the prologue if it weren’t for CW

[ancient plover]

is brainburst + scryers a thing?

or do ppl rather use shriek

[nocturne dust]

Taking an ability for BB isn't really a thing since BB sucks hard

[ancient plover]

was thinking of trying it out for mortis

[nocturne dust]

But for a BB-focused build, you'd probably take Shriek for anti-horde

[ancient plover]

seems to be really good there?

[nocturne dust]

It's... not.

It's better.

[plucky flax]

Oh ep bb can be memey in mortis

It's funny

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, still has charge time issues tho

[plucky flax]

10b enemies pop

[jovial juniper]

It's uh
Odd

[ancient plover]

what mortis build do you guys usually play?

[jovial juniper]

Scriers BB
For Trials yeah go for it

[ancient plover]

I was always playing oppenheimer ogryn there so never tried psyker

[plucky flax]

I play oggy and call it a day

Xd

[ancient plover]

[jovial juniper]

It stacks Precognition like crazy

[nocturne dust]

Psyker kinda gets the short-end of the stick in terms of mortis

[plucky flax]

Spam nuke and win

[nocturne dust]

The bubble zap can be fun

and there's, of course, double burn with Inferno, Infinite Assail, and the BB spam

[ancient plover]

oh also scryers + assail is still a thing right?

[nocturne dust]

yes

[ancient plover]

just to make sure they didnt nuke it out the window while I didnt play

[prime elk]

Nah. Assail was underpowered

[nocturne dust]

it got buffed

several times

[prime elk]

So they buffed it

[ancient plover]

felt really good last time I played

just in general

[nocturne dust]

Warp Splitting works with assail

[ancient plover]

since the reworked scryers

I was nonstop playing it

I remember the release assail

it was really good ppl complained that it clears everything and they arent able to kill stuff

so they kinda nerfed it hard

[strong gulch]

Ye. CW doesn't decrease peril explosion damage as far as I can tell.

Hey, I just found a clip that I thought just didn't save. Yay!

[amber vault]

Hey guys, I need help making a build on the talent tree. I wanna use the shield dome but wanted to know what's the best way to gain back toughness and crit build. I am kinda new but am very bad at making builds. Even though I looked on the dark tide website, I don't understand synergy very well in the talents

And kinda lost sometimes with how people say pysker is good with toughness regen from talents but I don't quite understand where

Very well

[nocturne dust]

Soulstealer, Quietude, and Mettle are your toughness generators

You can examine the pins for meta staff builds, a crit build is more gunker's style (which doesn't have a pin) but people normally take Scrier's with that instead of Bubble

Using bubble with staves is as simple as swapping the ability and nothing else, and works better with Inferno/Voidblast

[amber vault]

Okay thank you!

What counts as a warp kill?

Like melees, bullet guns?

[nocturne dust]

Things that generate peril

So staff attacks, blitzes

and some things that don't generate peril (soulblaze)

[amber vault]

Ahhh okay makes much more sense

[nocturne dust]

Force swords have warp attacks, but only for their specials

[amber vault]

Is soul blaze strong? I tried running a build with inferno staff with the soul blaze talents that light things on fire

But I dont see them dying as fast as spamming the basic attack for the other staffs

And was wondering if I was doing something wrong

[nocturne dust]

Soulblaze is very strong

but staff builds really need a full build to work

They tend to suck before that

[nocturne dust]

It won't kill a single enemy faster, but Inferno's strength is in its infinite cleave

and LMB sucks, use the charge attack

This is true of every staff, you generally prefer the charged attack to bolt spam

[amber vault]

I'm guessing shriek is better for it then the dome since it gives soul blaze onto the enemies and keeps letting you cast. But is it also strong without venting shriek?

[nocturne dust]

Additionally, inferno has TTK issues outside of Havoc, since most enemies will die to a good team before Inferno can do much

[nocturne dust]

Yes, Inferno and Voidblast are the two staves that are more ability-agnostic and don't care which ability you have

but inside Havoc, Inferno is king (with Voidblast close behind)

[amber vault]

Voidblast being the ball or the circle on the floor?

[nocturne dust]

circle on the floor

[strong gulch]

VB is circle on floor

[lone ravine]

blast is circle, strike is ball

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is the ball

Thx Fatshark for the rename

I love my Trauma Voidblast so much

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-air-bender-joo-dee-smile-happy-gif-17283492

[wooden sand]

Fartshark should rename Voidstrike to Ballstrike and Voidblast to Groundblast

Its more fitting

[marble crater]

No

[amber vault]

🤣🤣🤣

[cloud night]

CCP brainwashing be like

[wooden sand]

Come on

It would make everyone's life better

Ballstrike

Groundstrike

[marble crater]

We can call it ballstrike, if we get the old names back

[wooden sand]

So you want the Voidstrike's old name back so it can be replaced for Ballstrike?

That's stupid

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/nutbqlss-xi-jinping-my-beloved-china-peoples-republic-gif-25661913

[marble crater]

I don't care about voidstrike, we can delete it, nobody will miss it

[blissful solar]

trauma should be voidstrike and voidstrike should be voidblast

[wooden sand]

You mean Voidblast?

[lone ravine]

how about we just name both of them traumastrike

[wooden sand]

Ballstrike

[lone ravine]

strikeball instead

[nocturne dust]

Circleball

[wooden sand]

Ballblast

[strong gulch]

Footblaster

[blissful solar]

why the fuck the one that targets and strikes the ground is called voidblast ill never know.

why the fuck the one that blasts out a ball that blasts everything it touches is called voidstrike I'll never know

ESL I guess

[nocturne dust]

Blast makes more sense

[wooden sand]

Stupid technicians naming it

[lone ravine]

how about we combine them

[wooden sand]

[nocturne dust]

for an explosion on the ground

[lone ravine]

floor blast m1 and ball blast m2

[nocturne dust]

and a staff that deals damage via that explosion

[blissful solar]

strike makes the most sense tho. and blast seems fitting for the ball

[nocturne dust]

Strike makes more sense for a staff that requires (more) surgical precision and aiming for weakspots

[lone ravine]

add a staff that just spawns halflife explosive barrels

[nocturne dust]

Hard disagree

[blissful solar]

then you must've named this cuz you're the only person who thinks that

[nocturne dust]

Idk how you think the staff that requires aiming and does nothing with its explosion should be named 'blast' instead of 'strike'

[wooden sand]

I still agree on naming it Ballstrike

[nocturne dust]

And you're the only one who disagrees

[blissful solar]

voidblast is a bit questionable, a super generic name

[lone ravine]

ima agree on this

[wooden sand]

Of course you do

[blissful solar]

but strike is associated with stuff like an airstrike

[blissful solar]

and obviously trauma is just like an airstrike

[nocturne dust]

Sure, which requires surgical precision

[nocturne dust]

no

Trauma is lobbing a grenade

[lone ravine]

how about trauma just makes people get ptsd

ez

[blissful solar]

but it isn't as though the blast is super precise, the ball is the size of a torso

[nocturne dust]

Literally, that is what it is doing

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but can you honestly tell me Trauma is more precise?

[blissful solar]

instantly as though it came from the heavens

[blissful solar]

well, it does let you specifically choose where it'll explode. so maybe...

[lone ravine]

it precisely targets toes

[nocturne dust]

that's the same for Voidstrike tho, so no

[blissful solar]

not really, you shoot out the projectile and then it has to travel and all that

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[wooden sand]

I don't know, purple wizard that doesn't exist

[nocturne dust]

and then it explodes where you pointed it

[blissful solar]

so it's less precise than the one where you select the point and then it instantly explodes

[wooden sand]

Advanced is convincing me

[nocturne dust]

Incorrect, because you don't select the point

You do a jump and hope it hits that far off guy who might be in range

while praying and staring at the heavens

[blissful solar]

that's in practice, we talking in theory

[nocturne dust]

Well, in theory, one hits weakspots and one doesn't

End of story there for which one is strike, it's the weakspot one

[blissful solar]

strike means many things

but airstrike makes the most sense as the association and trauma is exactly like an airstrike from cod

but even if we say that strike is about/associated with accuracy

the big ball aint very accurate or precise

it's more like a big sphere that blasts everyone to death

[nocturne dust]

Airstrike doesn't make the most sense

Strike as a term is meant to mean precision

[blissful solar]

airstrikes are precise and the trauma staff is uniquely precise in that you specifically choose where it's going to explode

[nocturne dust]

Not really

[blissful solar]

unlike every weapon in the entire game, you can even do precision strikes behind walls (not so precise in the grand scheme of things)

[nocturne dust]

That's what a mortar can do

not an airstrike

[blissful solar]

not like those are totally different in nature

[nocturne dust]

Well for one, we're not in a plane

[blissful solar]

also they're called mortar strikes anyway

[nocturne dust]

Nope

[blissful solar]

they are!! that's one of the associated phrases with mortars!!

[nocturne dust]

when you spam it, it's a bombardment

and you definitely spam Trauma

So it should be Voidbombardment

[proper osprey]

What if they remake quell cancel into a staff

[pastel turtle]

best melee for scrier's gaze psyker?

[proper osprey]

For the next weapon

[proper osprey]

Any

I’d recommend the force greatsword

[pastel turtle]

understood mk iv tactical axe it is

[proper osprey]

That’s a good option too lol

I like the mk2

Or mk7

Try thoses mks with head taker and brutal momentum @pastel turtle

With unarmored and flak

[pastel turtle]

I figured it was just a contest between fgs, deimos, and ds4

[proper osprey]

It can be demois isn’t really my preference

I’m an illis fan with the regular force swords

Fgs tho

It’s so good

I break the feed with it

And ds is the ds it’s good

[pastel turtle]

what are the Illisi key combos?

[earnest sand]

Combat knife is pretty fun on gaze I just like going fast 😂

[proper osprey]

I heavy for single target and just light heavy for horde clear

[proper osprey]

I use knife with voidblast scries

Highly recommend

Very op

[pastel turtle]

what blessings for knife?

[earnest sand]

I've been messing a bit with infantry auto voidblast is used a lot on stuff already for me

[proper osprey]

Uncanny and riposte

Same thing with dueling swords

[pastel turtle]

I sorta like fleshtearer on knives

[earnest sand]

I like thrust uncanny on DS. most the time psyker can get benefit on it.

[pastel turtle]

how are you equipping an infantry autogun and voidblast staff

[proper osprey]

Flesh tearer is better for crits

[earnest sand]

Sorry bad wording on my part. I use VB in diff builds

[pastel turtle]

nvm I misread your shit

[proper osprey]

To get any benefits from bleed you gotta have uncanny

[proper osprey]

You’d get more dps with riposte than thrust

Only time thrust is really considered is on zealot

As wise ass dog said

[earnest sand]

True but I like the big poke 😉

[patent mango]

lmao

[zinc phoenix]

It’s happened to me

Mutie fuckin yeeted me

The answer to “will I blend” is yes

[strong gulch]

I too have been yeeted into the blender by a mutie.

I've also just ran into it.

[restive slate]

I would like more maps with environmental dangers

• giant factory pistons
• toxic sludge deposits
• molten ore rivers

[proper osprey]

Deep fried freak

Zealot crepe

Vet soup

[wispy bay]

Toxic sludge would be more or less the old Havoc blight spread modifier, which is unfun.

The other is more or less pox gas.

[restive slate]

What I mean is maps with environmental hazards that are danger to us as well as the enemies

Like a giant exhaust that spews out fire periodically, we can hide behind it so it can help thin the horde a bit

[jovial juniper]

Trains

[weary idol]

ledges

[restive slate]

Imagine a map that is only catwalks without railings

[signal gulch]

OSHA was declared heretical in the late second millennia

[zinc wedge]

How does the FGS work

I just spam the shit out of the special and pray

[amber vault]

fellas for the regular blaze force sword, what is the dummy stat?

[prime elk]

warp res

[prime elk]

wdym?

[amber vault]

bet, thank youuuuu

[prime elk]

for mk8 you just spam lights for horde clear. PA and then heavies for single targets.

for the special, 0 bar = stagger only. 1 bar = kill basic hordes. 2 bar = kill human elites.

it's a very simple weapon

[restive slate]

Lights for horde, heavies for elites. Manage your positioning

[fringe garden]

The PA poke is pretty goated imo

[restive slate]

That's my fave fgs

[fringe garden]

Especially as you get comfortable with just how far away you can do the full telekinetic push thing

It's got a solid range on it

[restive slate]

Poke can challenge deimos poke

[zinc wedge]

There is a bar

[prime elk]

yeah just make sure you have enough peril buffer

[zinc wedge]

Two bars

[prime elk]

so you don't overload

[proper osprey]

Is the best blessings for the fsg wrath and riposte?

[zinc wedge]

How do I fill them

[jovial juniper]

Kills fill bar
One bar kills horde
Two bars kill the rest

[prime elk]

kills

shrimple

you just kill stuff with the sword

it slowly degrades if you don't kill stuff with the sword

[zinc wedge]

But my FGS lowkey fucking sucks it swings so slow

[prime elk]

feed the sword, and it will kill faster

[jovial juniper]

It goes schwing fuwiiiiin

[prime elk]

take 10% attack speed node if you don't have it

makes a big difference

[jovial juniper]

The you goes skrooosh

[restive slate]

Is it a maxed out fgs?

[fringe garden]

And using crack of bone instead of quelling is so comfy

[zinc wedge]

No

[jovial juniper]

Then the wave goes woooosh

[zinc wedge]

I just spam waves

[restive slate]

Not the most efficient way to deal with hordes haha

[zinc wedge]

I run warp Slice and soulblaze

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/melee-psyker-27?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[zinc wedge]

I've got the Voidblast staff so the FGS is mostly for shits and giggles

[restive slate]

From what I understand, that's not a strong build for fgs sadly

[proper osprey]

Still debating between precog or wrath

[zinc wedge]

I'm over here casting my spells I've got tabs in my spellbook

[restive slate]

You can use fgs to delete heavies faster

[zinc wedge]

I've got brain blast

[proper osprey]

Tbh melee psyker can outperform a zealot

[restive slate]

Fgs is way faster than brainblast

[thorn cedar]

perfectly explained

[proper osprey]

Melee psyker gets access to duelist for what 10 secs?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[proper osprey]

Of dd?

[restive slate]

Onomatopoeias are always the best explanation method

[proper osprey]

No one answered my friggin question

[thorn cedar]

i dont understand it

[fringe garden]

I think he is implying scriers gaze is the only time we have zealot levels of melee

[proper osprey]

No not that hold on

[jovial juniper]

DD and 30 stacks of Scriers

[thorn cedar]

deffo untrue

yea

[proper osprey]

.

[thorn cedar]

just 25 stacks DD puts you well over duellist

[restive slate]

They be forgetting Psyker was the original DS4 user

[proper osprey]

Atm I’m running precog and riposte

[thorn cedar]

no bro it was totally balanced on psyker

[proper osprey]

But isn’t there a better combo?

[patent mango]

zealot is wayy stronger cause they dont have to buildcraft so they get more time to stab people

[proper osprey]

I mean kinda

[proper osprey]

The build

[restive slate]

What the vet

[patent mango]

naw vet would get shout

[proper osprey]

I did this as a melee psyker

[restive slate]

Did you use assail?

[proper osprey]

They pushed 2 bursters into me

[proper osprey]

I did

Assail is best paired with melee psyker

[restive slate]

I like throwing a shard in between melee

[jovial juniper]

[restive slate]

Forgot what they called this tech

[thorn cedar]

weaving

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/weave-dodge-fight-fighting-weaving-gif-25366275

[proper osprey]

Me thinks I’m just gonna use wrath and riposte

[thorn cedar]

if im on autopilot i just toss one after five melee headshots

[proper osprey]

Can’t keep warp splitting up because of by crack of bone

[thorn cedar]

i know right

its an actual problem

[proper osprey]

They buffed us too much

[restive slate]

Our strength has made us weak

[patent mango]

psyker fell off............

we need more buffs...............

[thorn cedar]

and while it's very haha funny to be in scriers gaze for twenty minutes

you dont ... like gotta do that

[patent mango]

why not

[proper osprey]

Another buff to psyker

[patent mango]

i think psyker should get access to ds4

[restive slate]

Two ds4s

[thorn cedar]

ds4^2

[proper osprey]

I do like it even in havoc 33 when I went melee psyker i still couldn’t get warp splitting up

[prime elk]

buff assail, buff SG

gunker suffers

[restive slate]

Psyker gets to throw DS4 assail shards

[patent mango]

make sg give attack speed

[thorn cedar]

also they slipped in an unstable power buff

i didnt notice it for like two full weeks

[proper osprey]

Hello zealot 2.0

[patent mango]

make zealot until death be once per long rest

[restive slate]

They diddd???

[thorn cedar]

now i do not have a perfect memory HOWEVER

[prime elk]

wat

they did?

i saw that the tooltip was broken

[thorn cedar]

im pretty fucken sure unstable power was 4% per stack tier 4 before and now its 5%

i did take like a month and a half off of this game

[prime elk]

max is 20% now right?

[thorn cedar]

but my brain noticed something and i sorta trust it, sometimes

[prime elk]

it was 20% before too

[thorn cedar]

oh is this just a big ol tooltip error thats fixed then

[restive slate]

Brains can be quite silly sometimes

[thorn cedar]

so still the same max, but different numbers?

[prime elk]

yes i think the max is still the same

but i haven't tested or anything

[proper osprey]

Also in havoc, you have to crit to kill with the fgs

[patent mango]

source?

[proper osprey]

@buoyant maple

Das my source

[thorn cedar]

thats just a name

[proper osprey]

[patent mango]

clearly true aim should apply to melee

its the only way to fix this

[proper osprey]

Tbh I’d like that

[patent mango]

yeah its defo the saddest point in my melee build lol

idk if it'd be busted

probably tho lol

[thorn cedar]

yep 4 stacks max

yall is right

i didnt think to look at that

[proper osprey]

With 15 stacks of dd, gaze and precog the thrust on fgs is ridiculous

[prime elk]

thanks for checking

[proper osprey]

Even without crit

[thorn cedar]

man this sword fucks tho

[proper osprey]

It’s really good

The only psyker builds i play now is purg or melee

And I’m content

[thorn cedar]

im gonna be doing 25 stack DD w/o headshot node

for a while, i think

since UI is still shitty and bugged

but that one second buff to the base duration

kinda huge and it makes me wanna try it out lol

[buoyant maple]

yea without crit the single target hits-to-kill is not impressive in the slightest

[proper osprey]

How much crit does the fgs have?

5?

[buoyant maple]

0

[proper osprey]

5, 10, 20, 20

[buoyant maple]

0

[proper osprey]

5 from psyker, aura, node, gaze, ripoist

Is that right?

[lone ravine]

psyker is 7.5 base

[proper osprey]

Well atleast how much you can gain

[buoyant maple]

psyker 7.5%
force greatsword +0%
scrier's gaze +20%
aura +5%
node +5%
riposte +20%
shred +4% x5 = +20%

total 77.5%

[proper osprey]

Oops

[lone ravine]

warp slice +100%

[proper osprey]

I didn’t count shred because i wasn’t using it

[buoyant maple]

then 57.5% at most

[proper osprey]

That’s not bad

[lone ravine]

if its not 100% crit chance knowing me its 0% crit chance

[proper osprey]

Still trying to decide what i want to change for precog or wrath

[jovial juniper]

It's always 50% crit

You either CRIT or don't

[proper osprey]

Wave still clears tho

[lone ravine]

yea uhhh no, either darktide or my psyker hates me and i have 0% crit chance

[proper osprey]

Even without crit

[lone ravine]

i have 100% non crit chance 🔥

[nocturne dust]

Darktide weights the odds to prevent long strings of unusual randomness like a bunch of crits in a row or a bunch of non-crits

[lone ravine]

ah my crit strings are simply the entire match and i just fail to crit then

🔥

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't do it entirely, but you're more unlikely to have it happen to you

[lone ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-lukecioffoletti-gambling-problem-gambling-solution-yugioh-gif-6780806810521057019

[patent mango]

in the tree art is that a relic blade in the bg? lmao

[nocturne dust]

no

[patent mango]

prolly an evis tbh

[nocturne dust]

long evis

[patent mango]

if only it was real

[broken carbon]

that’s a really long evis

wish we had that..

[lone ravine]

evis if it had more than 4 cleave

[dusky crag]

5 cleave :3

[nocturne dust]

evis has 6 cleave if you charge it

[patent mango]

evis if it was betrayed and locked in the hyperbolic time chamber

[broken carbon]

that’s only on the mk15 lights

mk3 has no damage cap on h1

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[broken carbon]

but the damage distribution is pathetic

[nocturne dust]

damage distribution just like me, fr fr

[broken carbon]

while like any slower weapon, (heavy sword, relic blade, thunder hammer (with buffs up) power sword, combat axes, taxes, the list goes on)

can easily kill at least 2-3 chaff per swing, usually more

the mk3 evis is lucky to get 2

[patent mango]

i hate how its called a heavy eviscerator when its not really heavy lmao

[broken carbon]

shrug !

[patent mango]

ig its just a symptom of early dt not locking in as hard

[broken carbon]

mk3 is abysmal dogshit

and it makes me so sad

[patent mango]

nowadays weps go so hard

[broken carbon]

it’s a contender for worst zealot weapons, aside from dclaw

[patent mango]

hecking dclaw

[broken carbon]

it has 2 niches

[broken carbon]

(dclaw 1*)

[broken carbon]

captain damage thanks to good flak ADMs and chastise trick

and cleave with perfect strike

but it does terrible damage

doesn’t stagger ragers

[patent mango]

on zealot rework they'll prolly improve evis

reworked ogryn weps go crazy

specially cleaver

[lone ravine]

imagine we get to use evis as a chainsaw just hold it out to deal constant dmg

[nocturne dust]

Zealot will be new meta

It's how Fatshark do

[patent mango]

zealot will be new sedition meta

unplayable any higher

[lone ravine]

ima play it on uprising

i'll cook trust

[hardy coral]

the autospam mod is diabolical.

[patent mango]

what is going on here

[proper osprey]

Leave my dclaw alone

[patent mango]

lmao

[proper osprey]

Djinn!

[lone ravine]

i'll leave it alone so you dont parry instakill me

[nocturne dust]

pulls out gun

[proper osprey]

[lone ravine]

hey wait no thats illegal

you cant do that

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-ultra-kill-parry-ultrakill-parry-punch-gif-6148676138619206464

[nocturne dust]

tries to block bullet
bullet goes through arm

[lone ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/f-gif-13187333855191538260

[proper osprey]

Good thing I’m not a real person I’m just an idea

[lone ravine]

into the concept incinerator you go

[nocturne dust]

But am I the one dreaming sibling, or are you?

[proper osprey]

[broken carbon]

dclaw 1

[proper osprey]

Ok yeah that one is poopy

[nocturne dust]

I'll leave dclaw alone when it can stand on its own

[proper osprey]

It can especially on psyker

[nocturne dust]

can't*

Think you mistyped there

[proper osprey]

Ur so silly

[lone ravine]

if your claw can stand on its own i highly suggest you check for warp tomfoolery

[nocturne dust]

If it isn't possessed by a warp daemon, it's not a psyker weapon

[patent mango]

it'd be nice if they invented weapons that didnt whisper things to you

[proper osprey]

Due to his insolence of dclaw slander @nocturne dust has been turned into a critter

[patent mango]

which one is him

[proper osprey]

Idk

[nocturne dust]

YOU FOOL

[lone ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-blanket-punching-angry-gif-10848519859414615034

[nocturne dust]

I ALREADY WAS A CRITTER

https://tenor.com/view/critter-laughing-hahaha-gif-14658762

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-half-life-gif-24583833

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-hell-gif-15648730

Roasted critter

[lone ravine]

yummers

[proper osprey]

Very filling

[nocturne dust]

bruh

[proper osprey]

2 dollars

[nocturne dust]

I made soulblaze elmo

I was born in the fire

molded by it

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/terrifier-nope-reaction-terrified-meme-gif-12811626649724885613

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[proper osprey]

Ok look at this vet build

[lone ravine]

what you doing when I bring out ice cubes

[proper osprey]

From vet chat

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-resident-evil-welcome-to-raccoon-city-resident-evil-movie-burning-on-fire-gif-25613395

[lone ravine]

peak

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/freezing-elmo-meme-it's-cold-winter-shivering-snowing-gif-12639548316257805494

[lone ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1314360688646553610.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=sillycat

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

[lone ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271676247709192203/1328255777772933161/D1869F62-9332-4970-B548-28235BB7EDAF.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/errr-gif-15100917141607828528

[lone ravine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1213041927214338069/1290424437270908971/bounce.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitty-yes-nodding-gif-17803998

[lone ravine]

car

[lone ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/violence-cat-speed-cat-slap-gif-1134650139805887121

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-angry-cat-angry-kitten-violence-violent-cat-gif-1754975238705756693

[lone ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/caption-i-hate-i-hate-cat-gif-3816025456941572115

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-you-ate-gif-16937767483669893491

[lone ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-dinner-silly-sparkle-cardboard-box-gif-15913479770029813854

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1288701442122846322.gif?quality=lossless&name=Biruta&size=128

[fierce crest]

for fire sword meme, do you dump damage or first target

[nocturne dust]

damage and first target

you want damage as low as possible, so both get dumped

[jovial juniper]

First Target

It's basically a multiplier

[gentle forge]

which one of this should i go for ??

[nocturne dust]

[fierce crest]

better to go for a 380 with 60 first target? or something like this?

[faint citrus]

Is it me or is voidblast staff bugged right now?

[analog agate]

Lightning storm

[analog agate]

Yes it is

[nocturne dust]

It always is

[patent jacinth]

The other blitzes

[gentle forge]

so this same one i have

[faint citrus]

It appears hits aren’t landing?

[analog agate]

Well, minus the other two modifiers

[gentle forge]

hmm

[analog agate]

That may be server issues for you. The bug is the explosion is registering far outside of the blast radius setting off barrels. And anecdotally making some enemies easier to stagger

[analog agate]

Maybe I don’t understand your original question

[faint citrus]

Hmmmm interesting really seems I was consistently killing any carapace enemies with 3 charged strikes now sometimes I have to land 5-6, this has been going on for over a week.

[analog agate]

Well, that lines up with major server issues occurring over the past few weeks. I have at least once a game my shriek activating, guys get lit for a sec and then the fire turns off and I get my shriek back. I haven’t noticed my VB not doing dmg though

[gentle forge]

nono, i get it, lightning and storm minus the opther two

what about the rest ??

this is what i have now

and i still have 2 points left

[analog agate]

I mean. If you are leveling I would personally do assail and not smite.

[gentle forge]

good point, what about the rest ??

[faint citrus]

What’s the big electrical strike from the sky and how do I make it proc more

[nocturne dust]

Brainburst

which is not electrical

but the confusion is understandable

[gentle forge]

dont you meahn brain rupture ??

[nocturne dust]

BB = Brain Rupture

They're the same thing

[gentle forge]

oh

[nocturne dust]

Proccing more... I mean, you can have a BB-dedicated build, use KF and a DoT/high RoF weapon

[faint citrus]

Oh it’s the kinetic flayer trait

Cooldown of 15seconds lame

[gentle forge]

so this is what i have for now

is it good ??

[proper osprey]

What’s this build for? / using?

[gentle forge]

figuring stuff out, idk this class

[proper osprey]

Looks like melee psyker

[nocturne dust]

Mind-in-motion is trash

Always take Malefic, mind-in-motion is slower than just sliding/dodging while quelling

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/melee-psyker-27

[gentle forge]

ooooh ok

[faint citrus]

How did I do

Seems to work well

[proper osprey]

what the slop

this is a silly

[faint citrus]

That bad eh?

Damn

[nocturne dust]

See pins for meta builds

[proper osprey]

not bad but not the best

[nocturne dust]

Kinda bad, honestly

[faint citrus]

Ahahahha

Fuck sakes

[proper osprey]

are you using purg?

[faint citrus]

Is there a pin for a voidblast build

[nocturne dust]

yes

[proper osprey]

ahh vb

[faint citrus]

I was using purg but got bored

[nocturne dust]

All staves have a pinned build

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e649e67-2be4-46c0-8293-31b1fa98a69f/terrible-trauma-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button my vb build

[analog agate]

And inferno and VB have very very close builds

[faint citrus]

But is this pinned? 🤭

[nocturne dust]

this is worse

bruh

[faint citrus]

Ahahahhaha

Wtf I dunno who to believe anymore

[proper osprey]

narp this is my pref

[analog agate]

I told him before. Aptly named build

[faint citrus]

I think my build works great

[proper osprey]

whatever

[faint citrus]

But I’ll try out some others

[nocturne dust]

FyreStone has extremely strange takes

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/demoted-russian-kid-russian-kid-crying-discord-mod-gif-23854964

[faint citrus]

Pew pew shots fired

[nocturne dust]

Like over-loading on toughness gen to the point of grabbing warp expenditure

smh my head

If you grab Warp Expenditure, you've gone too far

[blissful solar]

[analog agate]

He also doesn’t claim his stuff is meta or anything. So it is all good

[proper osprey]

eat sleep toughness repeat

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, it's fine being wrong

in terms of meta

Like, I do scrier's EK and bubble in auric

[proper osprey]

i bring my inferno into havoc and do fine

[nocturne dust]

Inferno just works

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[proper osprey]

ok true

[faint citrus]

Is relatively boring though

[proper osprey]

and scries trauma isnt bad

[sturdy reef]

if its healing and no final toll, Im liking VB better

for those havocs

[analog agate]

I am getting that Oblivion remake day one btw. Give it to me good toddy

[sturdy reef]

sg inferno is gas

I will hear no slander

[blissful solar]

GIVE ME SLOP BETHESDA AHHH

i wonder if skyblivion will be better

[sturdy reef]

probably

[analog agate]

I like VB more than inferno in all cases

[proper osprey]

not even i use dis...

[nocturne dust]

To each their own

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[sturdy reef]

I like fire

[proper osprey]

only staffs i do gaze with is ek, vb, vs

[sturdy reef]

I use fire staff

ez as

oh inferno gets perma warp rider and POTS with warp unbound though

thats why its so nice

[analog agate]

I play with shitty pubs though

[sturdy reef]

I like it better than shriek

[buoyant maple]

trolling

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/terrifier-nope-reaction-terrified-meme-gif-12811626649724885613

[sturdy reef]

pls buff voidstrike

I wanna go gambling

and have a good pay off

[nocturne dust]

ew

PotS user

[sturdy reef]

yus

[proper osprey]

hating on me

[sturdy reef]

no inferno, no ER

for me

[buoyant maple]

penetration of the soul is not very good from testing (even though it got fixed)

mainly because soulblaze's ADMs are very high across the board

only low ADM is for carapace

[sturdy reef]

its only 10% at 75 peril

[analog agate]

After seeing Ainz test it…. Yeah not great

[buoyant maple]

yea I still think ER is the better pick there

PotS need to be changed to smth else

rending is not gonna make it good

[sturdy reef]

I agree with that

[gentle forge]

im going fro venting shriek

[sturdy reef]

should be changed

[gentle forge]

good choice ??

[sturdy reef]

dunno to what

[analog agate]

Yeah. It should have uncanny strike levels of rending

[buoyant maple]

if it was like, +15% crit chance at >75% peril, I think it would be a lot more attractive

[buoyant maple]

nah

that's cringe

[sturdy reef]

100%

no

[analog agate]

Oh, I forgot my /s

[gentle forge]

what modifiers for venting ??

[analog agate]

😉

[buoyant maple]

srsly tho I think this would be ok

or even at >60% peril tbh

[nocturne dust]

too bad nobody called that

[sturdy reef]

Im still fine with the peril gen on inferno in havok

so I run POTS instead

[wary flax]

Feel like all of psyker sticks are good weapons.

Tho blast and fire seem to be better for staggering enemies.

[proper osprey]

i think they both need a rework

[nocturne dust]

Yes, they're all good

Voidstrike is the worst, but it's still fine as a weapon

[sturdy reef]

ER is fine IMO

clear tradeoff

[analog agate]

ER is actually interesting cause it had a tradeoff

[sturdy reef]

POTS is not much reward for the cost

[nocturne dust]

ER is fine, Fyre just can't handle toughness

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/demoted-russian-kid-russian-kid-crying-discord-mod-gif-23854964

[wary flax]

Using voidblast and sending a group of crushers flying with a charged blast is pretty fun.

[proper osprey]

be nice to me...

[analog agate]

Too used to that zealot beefiness

[nocturne dust]

I am

[hardy coral]

the Carry is real.

[sturdy reef]

I got the solution

just make POTS until death

heal based on current peril

ezpz

[nocturne dust]

I mean

here's a question

why does armor affect warp attacks

[buoyant maple]

because we're fighting a chaos-corrupted faction, maybe

[sturdy reef]

warp attacks dont automatically pierce armor

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I get it for some 'armors'

like unyielding

[sturdy reef]

depends on how it is manifested

maybe this is getting to lore deep lol

[nocturne dust]

but carapace is literally just physical armor

so is flak

[sturdy reef]

yeah but

you're physically manifesting the warp

[quartz flare]

so it's not about armor but the wearer who's high enough to wear one

[proper osprey]

look at the res's

[nocturne dust]

Idk about that

"soulblaze" does not read as a physical manifestation

[wooden sand]

I thought you were a wizard

[proper osprey]

9 friggin times

[nocturne dust]

I'm a psychic

[wooden sand]

Exactly

[nocturne dust]

Exactly

[jovial juniper]

Nah you see
Some kid took their crayon and scribbled symbols on the armor
That way Warp can't really really affect them

[wooden sand]

Wizard but he uses his giant brain

[jovial juniper]

[nocturne dust]

so my attacks ignore the physical realm

[wooden sand]

[nocturne dust]

[buoyant maple]

soulblaze does perform really well against flak

1.5 ADM vs flak

[nocturne dust]

yeah but carapace

[wooden sand]

But turns out your mathematical and calculations turns physical

Sooooo

[proper osprey]

if cara weep

[buoyant maple]

DT psykers' minds are too weak to comprehend what could pierce carapace

[hardy coral]

i didnt need to do that much since i was using SG, autospam Surge staff with wildfire, perilous combustion & kinetic Flayer, i was literally killing everything.

[nocturne dust]

0/10, immersion broken

[proper osprey]

i was playing ps vet

[buoyant maple]

DT psykers are quite average in psykers' scaling

[jovial juniper]

So have the engineers capacitate Psykers on armor and their materials

[analog agate]

I bet true love could ❤️

[jovial juniper]

Mmm hmm

Got it

[proper osprey]

was an experience

[nocturne dust]

Yes but they're literally standing next to a vet with a boltor and a zealot with a thammer

[wooden sand]

Really? Is that the pyskers the Inquisitorial are working with?

[fathom adder]

When your system goes to the trouble of distinguishing Flak Armor from Unarmored, but you make the Flak Armor dudes take as much or more damage as their Unarmored equivalents from most things anyways

[wooden sand]

Man yall should be fuel to the Dead Corpse Emperor right now

That would be more useful

[quartz flare]

disposable either way. save fuel for terra this way

[buoyant maple]

what's that supposed to suggest

[nocturne dust]

That they have direct examples of anti-carapace weaponry

Psyker has incomparable mind, should be able to figure it out

[buoyant maple]

blame DT psykers for being unreasonably dumb even with all that "imcomparable mind" then

[quartz flare]

are psykers actually smarter in lore?

[wooden sand]

To be a pysker you need to have connections to the warp

[nocturne dust]

[wooden sand]

So uhhhhh you don't need to be smart

[quartz flare]

ok then

[wooden sand]

But being smart makes you less likely to go insane

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but one of the personalities constantly talks about their 'incomparable mind'

so, clearly, they are smart cuz they brag about it

[buoyant maple]

loner is unironically the weakest of the 3 personalities

[wooden sand]

Hmmmm nah its the one who roleplays as a veteran

Cant even remember the name

[buoyant maple]

savant has far better training and control
seer has access to either a daemon of tzeentch or a shard of the emperor, both are op

[wooden sand]

Of how not memorable the personality is

[buoyant maple]

nah savant has enforcer training

that already puts them ahead of loner

[wooden sand]

Veteran fanboy

[quartz flare]

I like their voice tho

[nocturne dust]

Given how the Beloved tells them to murder the team and the psyker refuses and says "we should only kill the heretics" (or something to that effect), I'm leaning daemon

[jovial juniper]

Savant
My beloved

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-pirate-des-caraibes-gif-25792062

[nocturne dust]

Well no

[wooden sand]

I don't know, it could be used for a veteran and I wouldn't even mind

[nocturne dust]

Savant is not the Beloved guy

That's seer

/s

[jovial juniper]

Savant, my beloved

[wooden sand]

Seer is the best because he can talk to the Dead Corpse Emperor

[buoyant maple]

the emperor is just trolling

[sturdy reef]

its a shard

[quartz flare]

the voice itself rather than the voice lines.

[wooden sand]

Yes

[quartz flare]

it's husky? I should say

[buoyant maple]

besides
I'm pretty sure the emperor would want to kill people that zealously worship him as a god

[indigo plank]

Imo Savant Psyker is the best because they remind me of a Diablo character with how they talk

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

and the ogryn?

[wary flax]

Loner speaks so much god damn heresy, I'm surprised they're allowed to live at all.

[buoyant maple]

(they aren't)

[quartz flare]

they are in a suicide mission after all

[wooden sand]

Loner calling Emperor dead corpse:

[buoyant maple]

the emperor is just being silly

[indigo plank]

Loner would get fragged by terrified veterans

But still, funny on the way out

[jovial juniper]

Professional threatens to shoot Loner

[indigo plank]

Need bodyguard Ogryn irl to help me fix my car

[jovial juniper]

[indigo plank]

Always so encouraging

[quartz flare]

maybe their bratty personality convinced others that they aren't worth it and would soon die anyway.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/tongue-out-gif-10899711823759253871

[fathom adder]

They call it a suicide mission but they keep risking valuable planes and pilots to extract us while we're covered with nurgle goop and supernatural maggots

[buoyant maple]

exactly

[indigo plank]

Blight Spreads + Tox Gas havoc gamers be like

[buoyant maple]

the shard of the emperor saw 1 dude zealously worshipping him as a god and decided everyone needed to go

[nocturne dust]

The emperor when the Psyker murders the whole squad and dooms an entire planet to Chaos by chain reaction: "Oopsie, tee hee"

[buoyant maple]

very fitting for the emperor

given his staunch athiest views

[indigo plank]

Something something a clip from TTS

[fathom adder]

Our characters are called Rejects and constantly shit-talked to keep us from getting too big for our britches. Reality is that we were recruited in the first place because they're desperately short on warm bodies and they need us

[wary flax]

Can't send someone to another suicide mission if you leave them to die, duh.

[hushed heart]

Morrow is also flat out a traitor that just got yoinked by the inquisition

[nocturne dust]

I don't see how atheism = idiotically dismissive of consequences

[indigo plank]

Inquisition do just be yoinking people tho

[buoyant maple]

that's quite literally what the emperor was like

[indigo plank]

Looking at you Rogue Trader

[buoyant maple]

like that's pretty much just what went down with lorgar

[nocturne dust]

My entirety of lore knowledge is from passing conversation so I can only take your word for that and call it ridiculously stupid

[sturdy reef]

read the last church

if you want

[nocturne dust]

no

[sturdy reef]

[buoyant maple]

one of the emperor's sons, lorgar, rly wanted to worship the emperor as a god
so the emperor called guilliman to TORCH lorgar's home world
this directly led to lorgar seeking the ruinous powers which would eventually kick off the horus heresy

[indigo plank]

40k lore in a nutshell “well that just seems ridiculously stupid”

[fathom adder]

That's why later Horus Heresy novels seemed to suggest (I stopped reading them 15 years ago lul) that the Emperor actually wasn't a colossal idiot and all his apparently stupid actions were 4D chess the entire time

[hushed heart]

Emperor was also hypocritical on the whole religion bit when it suited him, i.e. The Mechanicus Cult

[zinc phoenix]

They make us clear an LZ and ensure its security before they take us out and they’ve made clear they can handle the goop with 👍 science

[indigo plank]

I don’t think it’s that he hated religion as a concept. He just didn’t want a religion about him

[zinc phoenix]

Not needing to deal with goop mode makes havoc so much better

[fathom adder]

The plane lands and sits on the pad even as we get swarmed, also we can't possibly secure the pad because even if the heavy air defenses are disabled there are fifty thousand windows within lascannon range

[strong harbor]

no no, ALL religion

[zinc phoenix]

Sure but the valkerie is a tough old bird

[strong harbor]

he just said “ok” to the mechanicus cuz they got cool tech that would push the imperium

[indigo plank]

Totally wouldn’t surprise me if the emperor was a hypocrite lmao

[nocturne dust]

Signs the Emperor may be Communist: 1

[zinc phoenix]

And also we always seem to be sucking up all the attention

[fathom adder]

Also it would be kinda embarrassing if his Great Crusade to unite all humans in the galaxy bogged down and failed on Mars

[strong harbor]

OUR technology

although all technology belong to the mechanicum

[indigo plank]

40k lore basically says “yeah everybody thinks they have their shit together until they fuckin die”

Funny how that works lmao

[strong harbor]

and you gotta admit, the titans are a great persuasion tool

[jovial juniper]

https://youtu.be/7aakdKZUcuE?si=a2-VPfZ7xS5yxgPc

[strong harbor]

naw, most of them know they’re fucked

[analog agate]

How is rogue trader compared to bg3?

[strong harbor]

the only ones that keep their shit are like orks and the tyranids

[indigo plank]

It’s trying to outrun the darkness that gets you in the end

[nocturne dust]

I don't think either of those factions have shit

[indigo plank]

Orkz just built different™

[strong harbor]

tyranids we still don’t know the number

orks are…..just orks

[nocturne dust]

Exactly

[indigo plank]

Orks are like roaches, they just endure

[strong harbor]

and they constantly get battles so

[indigo plank]

Nids are like the Vong from Star Wars

They’re just…out there

We don’t know how bad it gets

[strong harbor]

they do have their shit together as long as they’re krumpin

[zinc phoenix]

Combat system is terrible, writing is good. BG3 writing is middling but the gameplay and encounters are 💯

[wary flax]

Tyranids just need a good burger.

[zinc phoenix]

BG3 most interesting thing is that it’s written as a temptation of the player

[nocturne dust]

Again, no shit together because the mind of an Ork not work good

[prime elk]

temptation?

[zinc phoenix]

There are always shortcuts you can take in BG3 that make it easier for you, and the game makes no moral judgement of you for taking them

[nocturne dust]

[hushed heart]

Most interesting part of BG3 is what a different game it became every 3 patches

[prime elk]

hmm. idr at all lol.

[strong harbor]

no no no, they have they’re shit together cuz all the orks are like that

[prime elk]

that reminds me

[strong harbor]

they love waghhh

[prime elk]

i should try banging minthara at some point in a new playthrough

[strong harbor]

and they get waghhhh

all da boyz luv waghhhh

[indigo plank]

I’m convinced that Durge was supposed to be the real origin character story but they knew they’d scare a bunch of people so they made it separate

[nocturne dust]

Yes, they're all like that. No, that does not mean they are all there in the space upstairs.

[strong harbor]

no, but they seem happier than the eldar, the imperium, and the chaos factions

the dark eldari

the votunn

[wary flax]

Orks just want a good fight, and they always find one.

[nocturne dust]

Something something ignorance is bliss

[strong harbor]

exactly, so they’re doing alright

[abstract ether]

What do you do when you’re being rushed by ragers?

[strong harbor]

for their race

[zinc phoenix]

It’s more obvious if you get to the end because it becomes clear just how much of the game — if you choose to reject all the deals and go the hard path — is an argument that evil isnt the cartoonish stuff in other games but the selfish shortcuts you take to get something you want or make your life easier

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you're ignorant you're definitely not all there

[strong harbor]

imperium? they’re a rotting corpse like their emperor

[jovial juniper]

What's your weapon

[strong harbor]

eldari, they’re shattered and few

[prime elk]

oh yeah i think i did mostly a good boy playthrough

[abstract ether]

Duelist and inferno staff

[zinc phoenix]

Rogue Trader is a more traditional adventure story and feels more grounded in its patently ridiculous world

[nocturne dust]

Tau

[strong harbor]

but they’re thriving

[jovial juniper]

M1 with inferno staff

Those puffs have high stagger

[strong harbor]

good point, i think tau is just starting to understand that peace was never an option

[abstract ether]

Interesting never knew it would stop a rager

[zinc phoenix]

I played thru it on the hardcore Ironman thing and there’s a particular part with a very difficult and nasty baddie that you seem intended to win with divine intervention only so I thought that was entertaining

[strong harbor]

the necrons are still sleeping until the silent kings gets all of his lords shit together so they can kick everyone off their lawn

[zinc phoenix]

He has a fun song

[fathom adder]

Pretty basic concept, but video games keep getting it wrong for some reason

[strong harbor]

if the infighting doesn’t kill them first

chaos is in a never ending 4-some

[nocturne dust]

Eh, I mean, it's not exactly rocket science to know that an enemy that will suffer no peace can be given no peace. My impression of the Tau is they understood that prior to K̵̐̇Ȧ̷̛O̷̅̋S̸͆̾

[zinc phoenix]

I mean it gets in the way of the power fantasy

In other games

[fathom adder]

From what I've heard, most RPGs don't even have a Cartoon Evil option anymore, just Good But Sassy And With Lots Of Swearing

[zinc phoenix]

People don’t want to be garden variety real evil they want to be a nasty skull dude with corpses for friends who kicks puppies

[wary flax]

I'm pretty sure it stops anything lighter than a mauler.

[strong harbor]

my understanding is that they just got less tolerant after the nth time the imperium said “fuck you” to peace talks and whatnot

[abstract ether]

Thank you I would panic and just block lol

[nocturne dust]

I want "good but heart is in the wrong place"

[strong harbor]

and decided to just start going guns blazing in the first place

[zinc phoenix]

That said bg3’s temptation stuff did fit well with the egregious amounts of sex stuff

[indigo plank]

This reminds me of how Knights of the Old Republic had the best portrayal of the corruption of the dark side because it was an RPG game. By refusing to negotiate with people, extorting them for more money, and outright killing a lot more than a LS character…

The dark side literally becomes an easy pathway to power. You wind up swimming in more money and XP, which feeds into more killing and extortion because who turns a DS run around 3 planets deep?

[nocturne dust]

Give me "Yes, I will help this grandma cross the street because it will make me look better in the eyes of the public, mwahahahaha"

[zinc phoenix]

I also avoided the brain bugs

[strong harbor]

too nice

[zinc phoenix]

Which was another temptation thing

[strong harbor]

sorry, all we got is “gotta kill grandma cuz she’s starting to see things, must be chaos”

[zinc phoenix]

The game is a lot easier if you eat the bugs

[indigo plank]

Some of the bug powers on caster classes are wild yeah

[zinc phoenix]

What’s odd is there is no story about keeping your humanity vs giving it up to the bug

[nocturne dust]

This is why I don't like wh40k

[zinc phoenix]

There’s a little bit because you have to persuade other characters to do it

But not much tbh

[indigo plank]

Long term consequences aside, BG3 was refreshing in that a lot of times when you did something awful, a character would literally say, “Holy fuck I can’t believe you did that. What is wrong with you?”

[strong harbor]

it’s def an interesting world imo but def not one i’d love to be in

[nocturne dust]

It's not interesting to me at all

[zinc phoenix]

Meanwhile everyone throws a party when I genocide the goblins

[fathom adder]

40k would get the horror of it across more effectively if they would show the consequences of not burning the witch