psyker-class

[upper sun]

the dlc with the death cult is trash

some talents are borderline broken and some are ass

the recomendations for talents make zero sense

inventory management takes too long

the game has awful dialogue if you choose to play as a psyker

"woah whats a psyker? whats the warp?"
i say as a sanctioned majors multi discipline psyker

and most importantly the game punishes you for actually using psyker abilities the veil degradation is fucking stupid

[marble crater]

guess I won't play it

[upper sun]

wait

[marble crater]

No, it's okay, you have convinced me already

[upper sun]

the perils of the warp system in table top is actually better they should have used that instead of the movement/combat phases

the navigation on the star map will end with you moving back and fourth between 2 points until you randomly get enough points to move forward

HOWEVER the game is kino

its a really good warhammer open world game

[marble crater]

Are you sure? You have been ranting about it for almost 10 minutes now

[upper sun]

also it runs like shit

but yeah its fun

[autumn lark]

tldr clad cant read

[upper sun]

shut up everything i said is fact

xcom remains as the best turn based combat game ever made in human history

[patent steeple]

xcom: enemy unknown or xcom 2?

[marble crater]

2 hopefully

[upper sun]

2

also rogue trader doesnt have auto navigate for smaller jumps

so if you charted a course from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3 and you are at 1 you have to manually click 1 2 3

[upbeat kestrel]

that would be jagged aliance 3 imo

[upper sun]

🤔

never played the jagged aliance games

[upbeat kestrel]

try jagged alliance 3

nice game

[deft stump]

You hate everyone, it seems.

[upper sun]

i hate her quests

[tacit stump]

i hope they buff overpowering souls so it count for specials aswell

[dull scroll]

veil degradation is small time, also cass can fix it 👍

[upper sun]

id rather it be seperate to each psyker

[dull scroll]

also the builds are so OP in that game most characters can wipe map themselves

[formal stump]

Rogue trader is kinda disappointing gameplay-wise

and suffers from the usual owlcat weirdness where 50% dialogues sound like they were written by a 12 year old, not sure why, it's very visible in both pathfinder games too

Still worth playing at least once

[dull scroll]

I mean what RPG would you consider to have good dialogues?

[formal stump]

I don't know, hard to say

I haven't played other rpgs with that owlcat quality though

[raven mountain]

Yeah, halfway through the game, my fire psyker was a walking bomb. Just running around and detonating all over everything while being on fire but being immune to it, lol

Some Sienna shit on steroids.

[dull scroll]

heh custom main character builds are even more OP

but just the basic NPCs, argenta and cass can wipe on turn 1

[tacit stump]

do somene know how much warpres monsters have

[ornate hamlet]

RTs really good

Let's you role play as a rouge trader to a T ,if your into the reading and being immersed you'll probably like it

It's a bit overwhelming with all the skills and what not tho ngl

[raven mountain]

Yeah. I love all the skills and choices, and it still took me forever to level shit. Annoyingly so.

[ornate hamlet]

The choices for me , I don't really enjoy the combat in those kind of games

I'm bad at them

But the game does a good job at making hard choices and also punishing your choices it's great at , game will have you feeling like a fool at times for messing up

Like I thought it would be a good idea to step foot on the lower deck to quell a rebellion. It was not a good idea once i got down there I decided to execute them all anyway abelard made a good point of telling me off

[formal stump]

Next psyker staff should be staff but fire ogryn gauntlet bombs

[feral verge]

one of the stealthiest bursters ive ever seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol-d2JMquYo

[marble crater]

Not too much into reading a lot in my games, maybe the game is not for me, it's "free" so I can at least give it a try though

[dull scroll]

it's at its core, a waifu simulator, for those with refined taste 😌

[ornate hamlet]

I'm still not even very far in the game but yeah I think you can romance everyone

[subtle oriole]

what would you all recommend for a pyker dueling sword on auric diff

[marble crater]

Dump cleave, maniac and carapace perks, uncanny and then riposte/shred/thrust

[subtle oriole]

thx

[jovial juniper]

Uncanny Strike Precognition

Simply add another 60% finesse on top of your DD/Scriers

Kill Nurgle himself

[strong gulch]

If you're gonna use precog, pay close attention to when the buff is actually up.

Most psyker mains don't rec precog for a reason.

[deft stump]

Uncanny Agile if you wanna just no think, poke hed and dodge spam.

[strong gulch]

BUT some can use to it well.

[drifting steeple]

im having a little

too much fun with the autopistol

[strong gulch]

Whatever blessings you go with on DS, uncanny is the anchor blessing.

[gray wraith]

is the revolver any good on psyker

[drifting steeple]

yes

but what do i kmow

[digital ledge]

My vet uses the pistols.

[dull scroll]

it can be good, if you want a ranged weapon to 2 shot crushers

but the meta is recon, laspistol, and vraks

[ornate hamlet]

Recon w scriers eats

It's a little to good

[fathom adder]

Until high Havoc the Revolver will always be a good choice due to sheer damage, quick draw/holster, and treating enemy heads as though they're 3x the size. It falls off hard whenever it stops hitting important one-shot breakpoints, and many gun Psyker talents proc on hit or on crit, both of which favor higher ROF weapons (or Laspistol with its high innate crit chance)

[marble crater]

Precog bad

[dull scroll]

precog only really good for boss duels

[strong gulch]

Move tech

They've been happening more more I swear.

[deft stump]

Just use agile. Flees.

[marble crater]

Move tech still didn't save him, in case you need more reasons not to bother and learn it

[dull scroll]

agile is now on almost 100% psyker ds4 I see in havoc

[formal stump]

I've attempted some inferno staff games and I can't for the life of me figure it out

[digital ledge]

I'm new to the latest updates. What's agile? And DS4?

[dull scroll]

dueling sword mk4, king of melee weapon in this game

agile is the blessing that gives you infinite dodges

[marble crater]

Can't figure out what?

[formal stump]

I imagine it's gonna be great when there's 24/7 horde on higher levels but on the level I'm playing at it doesn't feel very great, I never know when to use it, and when I do there's always some Ogryn or zealot rushing in

[digital ledge]

I see. I guess I'm having trouble with the lingo

[marble crater]

Which level are you playing at? Both inferno and voidblast feel better to play with higher density of enemies, yea

[strong gulch]

The burster was the move tech

[marble crater]

Ah

[formal stump]

Heresy when I'm using new weapons below 400 power, damnation when I'm playing something I feel is strong 🤷

[strong gulch]

other move tech

[jovial juniper]

Yes
Siker Zarona play style is big game hunting and Perilous Combustion proccing
Eyes on the prize Aim Shoot

[strong gulch]

other other move tech

[marble crater]

Heresy should have enough enemies. Horde? channel staff and flame everything, if there are ragers or maulers you can also perma stagger them with the primary fire. If there are only a few weak enemies then just melee them

[formal stump]

I get how it works in theory, it just never works out for me in practice 🤷

It's a skill issue obviously

[digital ledge]

Lol blowing up a barrel hurting yourself is move tech?

[strong gulch]

WTF is this hand twist??

[marble crater]

I'm doing dodge sliding and here you are doing trick shots to evade enemies

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[marble crater]

Stop playing heresy, only play damnation. Either get better and fix the skill issue, or die

Or... play auric

[strong gulch]

For real, it can be. My clip doesn't actually show that.

There are times that you can time a barrel to launch you over a wall of enemies or back up a level to pick up a downed player.

I am just being silly rn.

[digital ledge]

Oh! That's some tech.

[strong gulch]

big brain moves

[marble crater]

I blew up a barrel and hurt myself yesterday to farm the barrel kill penance

[digital ledge]

In the clip it really seemed like you could have just ran without taking damage on the lowest heal pool class lol

[digital ledge]

That's different than move tech.

[strong gulch]

You could carry my zealot. I totally promise not to die.

[upper sun]

maelstrom is spawning normal bosses

its kinda fun

[digital ledge]

I play with Randoms. I can't complete a mission on Malice without someone dieing...

[strong gulch]

Bro, that barrel penance... 😭

High havoc gloriana with extra barrels doesn't even make the progress seem noticeable. I know it can be farmed, but meh

[upper sun]

yeah thats fine theyre learning

[marble crater]

What level is the zealot?

[strong gulch]

Maybe 103

or 130

[digital ledge]

It's frustrating when you need to complete the weekly challenge for 6 missions with no deaths

[upper sun]

oh yeah no thats undoable

[strong gulch]

Dump that one

[upper sun]

reroll it

[strong gulch]

ain't no way

[dull scroll]

no death and grimore are not it if you want to milk melk bucks

[marble crater]

Ah, thought it was for leveling

[strong gulch]

No, I'm just bad

[marble crater]

Same

[digital ledge]

I do normally. But I also fell out of the habit of checking my challenges now that they update without needing to speak to the guy.

When your already 4 deep into the 6. You just go for the complete.

After seeing it, it became impossible to do.

[formal stump]

I guess I'l only play damnation from now on, but I'm not saying sorry when I fuck up 🙊

[strong gulch]

Me on the various classes so far.

Psyker = kill the things and am good
zealot = run in circles and hit only dead things for some reason
Vet = bro can't breathe laser does nothing (level 12 in auric damn tho)
Oggy = funny slaps

[marble crater]

That's fine, I don't play normal damnation die as much as you want

[formal stump]

Is Auric way more difficult?

[marble crater]

I don't know anymore

[dull scroll]

I don't think most people here have touched normal damn in ages

[strong gulch]

It's more chaotic and less forgiving. Regular has limits on what can be thrown at you.

But if you want to farm materials, regular T5 is the way.

[marble crater]

It's more difficult, because there are more enemies and it's always high intensity with another modifier as well

[formal stump]

High intensity shock troop my beloved

[marble crater]

Lights out my beloved

[formal stump]

Born to die, auric is a fuck, i am psyker man

410,757,864,530 dead shotgunners

[strong gulch]

What's the number for psykers exploding themselves??

[marble crater]

I can play with you on zealot later, if you want to practice

[marble crater]

At least 5

Sometimes in one mission

[strong gulch]

Yeah. I am close to penance. Haven't made progress in months on it.

[deft stump]

Nu

[dull scroll]

when you see psykers in game with wound curios

you just know

[deft stump]

Or you see psykers without but same happens.

[marble crater]

Psyker with wounds and you notice they suddenly have a lot of purple without going down

[strong gulch]

purple build

[deft stump]

Preparing for kamikaze psyker build.

[marble crater]

Silly wounds

[raven mountain]

Honestly, I'd love to see the psyker overload do like 10x damage in like 5x area. Make it like frag bomb or something.

[restive slate]

Replace Crystalline Will with this please

[deft stump]

Scales up based on corruption %.

[raven mountain]

Let them coexist. Give me a reason to take it.

[dull scroll]

make it do friendly damage

[raven mountain]

It'd be meme af, but it'd be amazing to run CW+3 wound psyker

and be looking for places to let myself blow up

[restive slate]

No damage, just knock back hehehehwhe

[deft stump]

On death by corruption by peril, nuke.

[formal stump]

I think one of my curios has +1 wound on me

But I think I last changed it like 2 years ago xd

[restive slate]

Psyker Suicide Bomber build pls

[fathom adder]

Make Martyrdom Psyker real, works off Corruption % rather than directly off missing Wounds

[gray wraith]

what is scriers

sorry im quite new

[strong gulch]

I want to mega explode in a bonbon so bad right now.

[raven mountain]

Honestly, that sounds meme af, and I would love having a corrupted psyker martydom.

Bonbon eats you, and then every wound of corruption just has you explode inside him

and you solo kill him from inside

[strong gulch]

yes

please I want this

[raven mountain]

I think I want this even more than bleed/fire status autopistol

[strong gulch]

lmao yes

[raven mountain]

It's the psyker ability that raises your peril but gives you tons of crit and damage.

Instead of shriek or bubble

[ornate hamlet]

Scriers gaze it's one of the ability choices next to the bubble and the venting shreik

[deft stump]

Because useless but funni.

[gray wraith]

oh thank you

[strong gulch]

Dodge slide into a DH to cause problems on purpose

[restive slate]

Psyker giving the enemies the Poxburster treatment

[raven mountain]

Nah, useful AND funni.

Just run into the horde and blow up. No more crusher train

[deft stump]

You are still down your psyker till rescue though.

[raven mountain]

No? Crystalline Will makes you not go down

and if the horde is clear, you can be picked up.

That's why the wound curios

can do it 4 times

[deft stump]

The number of explosions to kill a BoN though.

[raven mountain]

before the fifth, final death

Ah, yeah. That's mostly useless, but funni

[dull scroll]

there is also the other idea that floated around where if psyker blows up a chaos spawn gets summoned

[raven mountain]

Thought you meant generically

[marble crater]

I had people do that in my missions, but they also deleted the DH within 5 seconds afterwards, so it's all good

Love it when your team is so good that nobody says anything after an accidental trigger and kill. Just "oops" or "lol"

[strong gulch]

Strategic green stimming the explody psyker.

[vernal temple]

I throw those away

[raven mountain]

And they'd get prio on medicae like ogryn do grenades.

[deft stump]

Just watching it play out in hed.

[strong gulch]

Ye.

[raven mountain]

Cool, dump 20k melk bucks and get 3 while getting yourself a couple 17/21s too. Nothing else for that currency anyhow.

[formal stump]

Melk bucks 😏

[vernal temple]

I've got plenty of the 17/21 curios as well, I just never use wound curios

[raven mountain]

Then you have the melk bucks to buy them. ez.

[strong gulch]

Not getting the DH ritual in time. Is ok. I have deflector, stam, and KD with corruption resist. I was made for this moment.

[marble crater]

I deleted all evidence of using wound curios in the past

[vernal temple]

over 160k Melk bucks

[deft stump]

Martyrdom builds though.

[fathom adder]

Zealot Channel is down the hall and to the left

[dull scroll]

DH ritual in havoc is brutal, normal DH kills the aggroer and leaves, these ones don't until it wipes your entire team

[vernal temple]

zealot chat mentioned

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1270659857795776585/JMYS0W5RDOL7U41RPH-1.gif

[raven mountain]

Yeah, they kill 2 at like 15-20, but up to all 4 by high havocs.

[strong gulch]

oh nooooooo

[marble crater]

This is psyker chat

[vernal temple]

martyrdom psyker

[marble crater]

[restive slate]

Should we have +2 wound curio?

[strong gulch]

For trauma lmao

[strong gulch]

no

[marble crater]

Thanks, I hate it

[deft stump]

You used it?

[restive slate]

Hmmm why I wonder? Just curious

[marble crater]

No, why would I

[marble crater]

Wounds bad

[formal stump]

Alright back to 2 wounds

[strong gulch]

Because health and toughness are a better use of resources.

[formal stump]

Reading the snarkoffs on this discord room with notepad in hand surely will make me a great player one day

[strong gulch]

or a stam if you like or if you use weapons that are PA heavy

PA = push attack

[dull scroll]

if you only have 2 wound, med stim heals you for 50% hp

[deft stump]

+1 wound when learning, sure. But if you go +3, ppl take it you just suck.

[restive slate]

Would martyrdom benefit from it?

[formal stump]

How often do you even find health stims?

[strong gulch]

Ye but this is psyker

[formal stump]

I'm swimming in concentration stims, health stims seem super rare

[deft stump]

About 2-3 a run from feel.

[restive slate]

Aite that makes good sense

[dull scroll]

in higher difficulty going down generally means team wipe, the idea is to not go down in the first place

[restive slate]

I fight like zealot as Scryer melee psyker tho huehue

[marble crater]

It might, sometimes there are some great tips hidden here or all the snark reaches a boiling point and develops into a detailed conversation about why X is better than Y

[fathom adder]

Most deaths at higher difficulties are not from going down too many times and running out of wounds, but from going down once and no one being able to rescue you (or from being thrown off a ledge). Better to not go down in the first place

[strong gulch]

At least in auric, where a res is more doable, you likely won't get picked up. So the wounds would be a waste.

Let alone in havocs.

[strong gulch]

They can be emotion support wounds. 🫡

That's almost too real.

[fathom adder]

A few times a map normally. Every 50 meters in Pox Gas modifiers

[marble crater]

Imagine going down

[restive slate]

I'd go down on you

[strong gulch]

which ultimately boils down to something overly complicated with a surprising lack of impact and a difference in building praxis

[marble crater]

Too true

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Unless a build is really mismanaged one or two nodes that aren't crucial don't really matter at all

[strong gulch]

or wildfire

[marble crater]

Not the wildfire

[drifting steeple]

real

[fathom adder]

Yeah but actually though

What are new players supposed to do, experiment for themselves? In this economy?

[drifting steeple]

a bit too much fun with the autopistol

[fathom adder]

I known the grind is much less than it used to be since launch, but still, developers be building grindy systems and wondering why new players consult datamines and chase meta instead of sinking grind time into failed experiments

[prime elk]

you'd have even more fun if you run it with SG 😉

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/fear-hate-gif-24803323

[strong harbor]

different weapon combos and builds?

make their own spin on builds?

master all weapons?

get all penances?

[drifting steeple]

shredder autopistol my beloved

[strong harbor]

get godrolls for all weapons?

[fathom adder]

Unlike most of the oldtimers I remember what it was like to be new and constantly hitting one resource bottleneck or another

[strong harbor]

as a new player myself, these is what i would do, the base combat and gameplay loop itself is enjoyable

[drifting steeple]

DIAMANTINE

RAAAAHHH

[strong harbor]

this 100%

thankfully, the mortis trials gave us 4k diamantine

but yeah i agree id be HURTING rn

[drifting steeple]

i already spent it all

[fathom adder]

First Plasteel, then Dockets (when Brunt's Armory was added), then Plasteel again (when Auric was added and Dockets went to moon) and now I guess it's Diamantine

[strong harbor]

throne, wtf you spending it on

[drifting steeple]

i dont remember!

some stupid shit ig

[prime elk]

diamantine goes really fast

tbf

[strong harbor]

it does

[fathom adder]

Sour Milk Coins were also useful at the time

[strong harbor]

i can’t find a use for those

[drifting steeple]

at this point im doing heresy and each heresy i get 100-140 diamantine so if i complete one i get 100 ish

[strong harbor]

is gambling for weapons worth it

[strong harbor]

ye

i spend that immediately

[fathom adder]

No, your odds of getting the optimum stat roll are extremely low. Better off using Brunt's for that

[strong harbor]

[strong harbor]

yeah, what i was abouta ask

[formal stump]

Heavy sword?

[strong harbor]

is melks shop better for like max curios?

[formal stump]

I find it quite light actually

[fathom adder]

Right now the only thing people use Melkbucks for is gambling for trinkets curios since they're fully customizable beyond the base stat

[formal stump]

Gambling for 1% health lets go

[strong harbor]

so, 30 then spend it at melks for max possible stat curios

cuz being at 30 will make the base power higher than where i’m at rn?

currently lvling psyker, gonna go to ogryn after

[strong gulch]

40k melks for 1 curio lmao

[fathom adder]

Melk gamblers gonna be in shambles when fatshark adds red weapons and you will need melk money to get them (just 2 more patches, trust)

[formal stump]

I don't know where I got 21% curio from but I have one

[strong harbor]

damn

[fathom adder]

Honestly the chance of getting maxed out curios is so low and the benefit so minimal I wouldn't even bother with that

[strong gulch]

Most of my max base stat curios are from the hourly ordo shop tho. The armory.

[strong harbor]

so…. just hoard melk tokens until they add an update that makes it viable?

[fathom adder]

I joke but I honestly just am just saving Melkcoin in the unlikely event we can do something else with them later

[strong gulch]

If you got nothing else to do, stat hunting becomes part of the game.

[drifting steeple]

i just eat them

[strong harbor]

i stat hunt cuz i want the best of the best

weapons wise

[lone ravine]

trauma staff is fun in civi

[strong gulch]

430 or bust

[strong harbor]

curios, idk about it

[drifting steeple]

i stat hunt bc i have mod that makes dump stat weapons pink text and that makes me happy

[fathom adder]

I guess for a new player it can be worth it to buy a weapon that's already fully Empowered and Consecrated even if the stat distribution isn't optimal

And just Brunt yourself a perfect one later when you ahve resources to spare

[strong harbor]

i do this anyway

and just keep the weapon the entire time lvling

very very very unoptimal

[drifting steeple]

all my weapons are just fighting for resources to get them to max

[strong gulch]

This is the real use for melk right now outside of random gambling

[strong harbor]

but i at least have a god roll maxed weapon already for the class

[lone ravine]

melks main use is curio gambling tbh

[marble crater]

I thought his main use was to talk shit about my characters

[fathom adder]

He seems to actually like (or at least not openly shit-talk) certain personalities

[strong gulch]

call us stinky

[fathom adder]

My Psyker screeches "Death to the False Emperor!" every time he gets slightly irritated, and Melk always treats him with respect. Melk confirmed for secret heretic

[lone ravine]

thats not specific to melk the penance lady also does that

[marble crater]

After all the penances I have completed? Hestia would never

[deft stump]

I'm waiting for krak Melk simulator.

Where we throw kraks at him.

[lone ravine]

ive completed over 5500 penance points and she still hates me 😭

[fathom adder]

Our characters are actually very important, they just keep talking shit and calling us Rejects to keep us from getting too big for our britches

[copper jay]

Perilous Combustion is useful or Wildfire tier ?

[strong gulch]

PC is very strong and wildfire is good

[formal stump]

several people typing

[deft stump]

WDYM, it's not good?

[fathom adder]

Imagine having opinions haha I would never

[dull scroll]

PC after this latest patch is god tier

[copper jay]

THE DOT IS SO LONG !!! So OP

[analog agate]

PC takes priority over wildfire if you are deciding on points

[strong gulch]

PC was already one of our stronger talents. Now it's even better.

[formal stump]

If it's not in atheneum then I don't have an opinion on it

[marble crater]

Soulblaze can trigger PC now, it's an infinite loop

[strong harbor]

pc?

[analog agate]

Theoretically

Not in actual gameplay

[patent mango]

they buffed hecking soulblaze

[deft stump]

Depends.

[strong gulch]

Perilous Combustion

[marble crater]

Perilous Combustion

[copper jay]

PC ?

[marble crater]

[copper jay]

Or perilous

[strong harbor]

oooo

[marble crater]

Same thing

[strong gulch]

Perilous Combustion

[copper jay]

Yes I understood afr I taped

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

It's not just that. Using wounds is investing in losing

[marble crater]

Imagine not knowing every psyker abbreviation

[hearty wolf]

Which I dislike

[strong gulch]

I miss stuff constantly, so I didn't mind posting again.

[strong gulch]

Investing purple

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/great-good-gif-24557505

[deft stump]

Is why I say, if you are learning, +1 is okay. You really shouldn't be needing it.

[dull scroll]

mobs now cook themselves

[patent mango]

just speak purely in abbreviation

[marble crater]

New players would never be able to use the search function again

[dusk void]

Why would wildfire be good? I kinda want more soulblaze stacks, not limit them

[strong gulch]

Think of it as increasing SB range or precooking. It's doesn't limit SB from other sources.

[formal stump]

Search function on the discord is already pretty bad

thank god for pins

[dusk void]

I’m still not convinced to take that node. Venting Shriek with the warp charges can be as good/better than wildfire

[strong gulch]

Wildfire doesn't replace shriek. It's in addition to.

If you don't want it, don't take it.

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[lone ravine]

free SB spread is free SB spread

[dusk void]

Not enough talent points. It was that or EE for my Blazing Trauma Staff build and I chose EE for the crits

[analog agate]

🤷‍♂️ EE is just ok on blaze VB.

[drifting steeple]

What's EE

[analog agate]

Empathic evasion

[strong gulch]

Trauma doesn't have great uptime for EE

[analog agate]

You are immune to ranged for 1 sec on critting

[drifting steeple]

Ah

[strong gulch]

If you have every crit node, nexus, and SG, then you can get ok uptime on EE with trauma/ VB

[analog agate]

If it helps it helps you. But that is a thing like deflector. You can get rid of it by growing in skill

[strong gulch]

But yes. If you something helps you or you just like something, play that

[drifting steeple]

I still don't know how to dodge slide and it drives me nuts

[strong harbor]

move around like an “S” movement

?

[dusk void]

Really? With the warp nexus/blazing spirit blessings, I’m constantly getting crits. Also, I hate gunners

[strong gulch]

run then crouch

[drifting steeple]

Is that it?

[strong harbor]

it helps to toggle sprint so you can just press shift then ctrl

hold to sprint is kinda wonky

[drifting steeple]

Because if that's it then why do I keep getting trapped

[lone ravine]

dont do it too early or else youll do a slide that moves you like .001 cm

[strong harbor]

also make dodge to shift imo

[drifting steeple]

By trappers

[analog agate]

Yeah. Have sprint as toggle and crouch as hold

[lone ravine]

cant dodge slide disablers iirc only ranged

[strong harbor]

dodge to the side not towards the net?

[drifting steeple]

Zamn

[strong harbor]

i didn’t even know if you can even dodge slide trap nets

[fathom adder]

if it is a dodge, yes

if it is purely a slide no

[strong harbor]

honestly i only use slide to engage enemies with melee, while reloading, or when im carrying heavy things

[strong gulch]

It's inconsistent. That inconsistency is why you get period of no SB and why fire trauma specifically get a lot of use out of wildfire.

BUT if you get use out of EE that add to your gameplay, keep it over wildfire.

You may one day be better at positioning, awareness, or your tastes could change.

EE is not meta on fire trauma, but you also don't have to strictly play meta

[drifting steeple]

This is irksome

[regal harness]

whats a good blessing for greatsword

[strong gulch]

Scattered shooters are what I am weakest too on trauma. So when I don't want to sweat as hard in that area at the cost of damage, I do assail trauma.

Not meta at all. It doesn't even have access to psyk aura on a shriek build.

[strong harbor]

wrath and riposte has been working for me

[strong gulch]

pretty much anything except warp slice and blazing spirit

[plucky flax]

Most of them are gud

[strong gulch]

My biggest rec would be wrath if you don't have warp splitting.

Many always pick wrath anyways tho.

[marble crater]

I pick wrath because by crack of bone keeps me too low for warp splitting to do anything

[prime elk]

that genuinely has become an issue lol

i still meme with riposte and shred though

it's very nice

[marble crater]

It's why I dropped one with the warp warp rider gets some use from assail spamming at least

[drifting steeple]

Did the autopistol buff do anything

[verbal thistle]

increase its finesse

.9 to 1.5 (?)

[drifting steeple]

I know that but did it help

[tepid tangle]

anyone willing to give me a hand with the cliffhanger penance?

[verbal thistle]

yes

[prime elk]

Yes

[patent steeple]

warp splitting still does at least something for assail spam too, right?

[prime elk]

It does yeah

[drifting steeple]

Cool

[idle valve]

had a dream where force greatsword had a new mark

[drifting steeple]

What are some common psyker builds
Like gunker, melee psyker, [insert staff name]

[idle valve]

and its special move was empowering it, but instead of a wave being thrown out you would toss it like a javelin and could either reel it in, pull out instantly, or have a sword made of warp to substitute while the greatsword did constant tick dmg

[drifting steeple]

Curious to know if there's ones I've haven't thought of

[radiant frigate]

gunker and melee psyker are mostly the same thing

[analog agate]

The builds are:
Inferno/EK/VB build
Smite build
Gunker/melee/assail/VS build

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-book-fire-fire-book-his-writing-is-fire-as-a-child-i-yearned-for-the-mines-gif-7492916682126134420

[jovial juniper]

Blender (Chainswords Xiiig DD shred Scriers)

[radiant frigate]

there is no way that is common

[strong harbor]

smikers

[drifting steeple]

It's certainly eclectic

[jovial juniper]

Well it's un-common

[strong harbor]

i’ll prob get into staffs after i max out all classes

[drifting steeple]

So you can kind of put most builds in these categories

[jovial juniper]

But it should be common due to how Chainsword carries CRIT damage around

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[regal harness]

which version of the great sword are you guys using and why
and what feels better

[marble crater]

I use mk8 because lights for hordes, heavy for elites

[strong harbor]

mk 6

[marble crater]

All horizontal lights and strike down heavies, I'm a simple man

[broken carbon]

both are really good, mk6 is seen as better by the wider community, but both are the same of light spam for hordes, heavy spam for single target

mk8 has PA stab follow up, which does more damage than the stab on mk6

[strong harbor]

you stil get horde but heavies are goated

[regal harness]

[jovial juniper]

Both swords are great it's really up to preference (Fatshark W)
But I use the 8

Ingrained the move set into my muscles

Ain't changing

[analog agate]

I use 8

[patent steeple]

I myself use 6

[upbeat kestrel]

Mk6 moveset works better for me

[strong gulch]

Both good.

Mk6 has easier access to the big upper stab on the H2 and after the special.

Mk8 has easier access to horde clear with slight faster lights. Big upper stab is after a PA (push attack; PA builds peril can cause you to explode).

[opaque barn]

New to the game. Best voice for the class?

[strong gulch]

Entirely up to you and you can change it later.

[opaque barn]

Ok. How do you change it, somone online had said you need an ingame currency, but not how you change it.

[copper jay]

I'll say it again.

Psyker is best class and the most fun.

[verbal thistle]

50,000 dockets to change name/background

[copper jay]

@deft stump Fck Zealot

[verbal thistle]

at the barber, krall

at the end of the ship

opposite side of armory

[opaque barn]

Ok. Thank you.

[verbal thistle]

Krall

[jovial juniper]

Seer up there, delusional psychopath
Savant good, pained wise indocrinated
Loner good, angry annoyed critic German sociopath

Male seer has this overly long maniacal laugh when shrieking at high peril

It's pretty peak

[marble crater]

Male Seer, Female and Male Loner
Female and Male Savant
Female Seer
is my tier list

[lone ravine]

female loner doesnt have the foreshortened life spans tangent sadly.

[strong gulch]

Go to the barber. Personality Scourge for 50,000 ordos. Click continue until you get to the voice / personality section.

[marble crater]

She cute though

[copper jay]

The only problem of female Seer is : She is talking more with Beloved than others teamates

[fathom adder]

Savant will frequently go on about how they used to be a space cop and still tries to act like they are. Could be a plus or minus depending on your preference

[long wharf]

not just any space cop, one that geuinely cared about being a good space cop

which is why I stay with it

[jovial juniper]

Dura Lex Sed Lex

[long wharf]

Lex Atoma, sibling

[formal stump]

Saying "sibling" is the same as saying "bro"

the psykers are constantly calling each other bros

this is canon

[long wharf]

yes, but it's exclusive to other psykers

[copper jay]

I hate that too

[proper osprey]

9/10 sure that the female loner wuvs the judge male zealot

[strong gulch]

I just did vault and someone ran around and opened all of them so I super struggled to find where to go.

[marble crater]

The ones with the light

[strong gulch]

The blue the barely glows or contrasts. yeah that

[marble crater]

Or the big red one above the doors

If you play that map with me you don't have to worry about it anyway, because I mark it

[deft stump]

Wat?

[marble crater]

Fck Zealot

[deft stump]

Wat?

[strong harbor]

the doors have lights

[copper jay]

Fck Zealot

[deft stump]

Yes and?

[copper jay]

Stop play Zealot.

Embrace Psyker Havoc

[deft stump]

Nu.

I don't even want to havoc. I just do it for the box.

[wooden sand]

I can see that your brain have been fried by the way you are speaking

[copper jay]

Both points are true.

[deft stump]

Honestly, I don't have time this week and next to even try multiple runs. GF is here so gotta get weekly done asap.

[regal harness]

how do you run your curio
i run 2 tough and 1 health

[idle valve]

sounds nice

seen 1 tough, 1 health, 1 stam also

[prime elk]

thats what i do

[marble crater]

Stamina and two toughness

[regal harness]

idk what to run as perks tho
do all 3 get 5% health and tough
and the 3rd should be what?

[marble crater]

3rd can be gunner resist if you have trouble with them, or combat ability cooldown is what I use

[idle valve]

just realized something kinda unrelated

[marble crater]

Sniper can help too

[strong gulch]

General rec is 201 HP with x1 sniper resist. This lets you tank a sniper and some busters.

How you get there is up to you.

[idle valve]

i remember tanking like 2 or 3 stray sniper shots and i was like damn that hurt, till i realized i'm an ogryn in havoc 33. lil' uns would fold over instantly there ey

[regal harness]

[marble crater]

[regal harness]

[marble crater]

I can survive a sniper shot, but I can't survive a sniper followed up by a bruiser melee right afterwards

[lone ravine]

I can survive a sniper shot, just pick me off the ground afterward

[patent steeple]

btw, I feel like taxe is not for me. The fact I need a ranged weapon that can deal with carapace, which usually means I need to have True Aim ready because the ranged weapon need a crit for carapace dmg (I lose True Aim often because I want to stack MM first for maximum damage), is just too much for me...

I do recognize the benefits of taxe psyker, but I just can't figure out a setup for it that fits me specifically...

I guess I will just play caxe psyker when FGS starts to get boring on a melee build...

[rich spindle]

I stopped taking combat cooldown

Haven’t really noticed less uptime with ult

I used to run all 3

I dunno if some health curios are worth it for havoc psyker

I go 3x toughness rn

[rich spindle]

Tac axe light attack spam can deal with carapace fine. It’s not the best but the dodge distance makes dealing with overheads pretty safe

[raven mountain]

Can do what I do with the knife psyker and bring a pocket void blast.

Bulwark? Put it on its ass.

[cosmic sigil]

you can use an agrip volver against armored elites and bosses, it works quite well

[crude cape]

inferno staff for havos, perks. 5% crit + flak? or + unyielding rn to help burn down bosses? what do you guys use

[marble crater]

Flak and unyielding is what I do

[verbal thistle]

flak + unyielding/crit chance/maniac

[patent steeple]

which blitz do you use with your knife psyker? I myself use taxe with either Charged Strike smite or KF BR...

[proper osprey]

I’d go assail

Assail is the best option with melee psyker

[patent steeple]

even if I use voidstrike for carapace damage, because agri revolver is too reliant on True Aim...?

idk, assail seems kinda pointless to me if I'm already using voidstrike...

[proper osprey]

Cara damage should come from your knife? Uncanny and riposte

[weary idol]

what melee weapon are you using on melee psyker that has bad carapace damage

[patent steeple]

I was talking about taxe, not knife. The guy I asked has a knife build...

[weary idol]

all of the force swords have good armor dmage, force greatsword does too, tactical axe is okay, knife and dueling sword have good carapace

[proper osprey]

Oh yeah just heavy it to death with the tac axe

That’s it’s only way to deal with cara

Vb is good to get yourself out of a tight spot but I’d run a laspistol or revolver

I’d most definitely run assail with tac axe though

[weary idol]

tac axe heavies and lights do similar damage on a crit

light spam is just better

[proper osprey]

Yeah that’s true

Depends on mk

7 is cool

Im becoming cole 2

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/melee-psyker-27 one build fits all melee psyker interchange if needed

Important parts are assail, scries, dd

Also pretty sure warp rider doesn’t hit a bp and with dd I just don’t pay attention

Oh and by crack of bone

[crude cape]

is it wrong to feel like bubble isnt always needed in new havocs? its def really nice to help with BON and boss spam

but on DH ritual modifier

feels like you have to push to the ritual, and have less chance to sit in bubble

and venting shriek feels good

[proper osprey]

Yeah bubble was only needed for cranial corruption

I always ran venting

[patent steeple]

hmmm... I wonder if I could technically try a relatively-scuffed melee psyker loadout with taxe, voidstrike, and Charged + Enfeeble smite...? I have tried it before, so I think it could probably work well (outside of havoc, because screw havoc in general).

[proper osprey]

I don’t even think enfeebled works on charged strike

[strong gulch]

cranial corruption was head parasites explode on head shot

[proper osprey]

Voidstrike is good tho

[patent steeple]

it says it electrocutes, and enfeeble says "enemies electrocuted by you take more damage", so idk...

[lone ravine]

according to enhanced description mod

[proper osprey]

Yeah but they also couldn’t be stunned or suppressed

[strong gulch]

It does. It's minor tho.

[proper osprey]

Huh I couldn’t tell if it did or didn’t

[strong gulch]

You noticed it correctly lmao

[proper osprey]

I’d still go assail for elite spam @patent steeple

[strong gulch]

I don't remember that. I have completely blanked all of that out of my mind. lol

[marble crater]

That was pus harden

No?

[lone ravine]

pus hardened was just ranged dmg reduction i thought

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

If you want to do smite melee, the +1 node and using the LMB/ instant charge can be used to aggressively position enemies where you want them or group them up.

If you don't want smite at all for melee focus, you can run rending blazing spirit trauma/ VB to set up your melee attacks.

Off meta melee things

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Cranial Corruption enemies were in fact suppression immune.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/circumstances/cranial-corruption

I guess we just killed them too quickly to notice.

OR exploded ourselves off a ledge at the start of Gloriana

[marble crater]

Only times I even noticed them is when they exploded and ledged people

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1316913692650115152/Beans_Fly.gif

[marble crater]

Good old Gloriana, need another mission in the void with a lot of ledges and barrels to keep with the theme

[lone ravine]

the entire map is now one thin line and going anybit sideways will ledge you

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Me trying to get true survivor.

Hmm. There is a parasite bulwark at the first drop down in gloriana. My back is to the void and my heels on a ledge. What do? PA the bulwark will fix it.

it did not fix it

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

[lone ravine]

fixed to not be your problem anymore*

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-dodgeball-duck-dip-tips-gif-16899633

[lone ravine]

if you can dodge a crusher overhead... you can dodge a cranial infection explosion

[fiery stratus]

You're about as useful as a Nurgle flavored lollipop

[strong gulch]

Do what now??

[ornate hamlet]

It's a old gif/meme from dodgeball movie 🤣

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-catch-em-all-gif-5662253

[strong gulch]

Yes but I clearly never got the concept of "dodge"

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah 😅

[strong gulch]

Pokemon movie. From the 1st one. right?

The spa water park thing

[marble crater]

First one was with the clones fighting against Mewto where Ash turned into a stone and had to be healed with the tears of his Pokemon

[strong gulch]

WAIT

NO THERE"S LIKE NEW ONE IN THERE
the gif I mean

[strong gulch]

yeah that

feck

[marble crater]

Kid me was absolutely devastated

[strong gulch]

for sure

It's one of the movies that made me cry.

The begining of Up too.

[ornate hamlet]

I cried during the Celebi Movie, lol

https://tenor.com/view/celebi-pokemon-pokemon-4ever-pokemon-celebi-time-travel-gif-1882313143302852890

[marble crater]

We were not ready

[ornate hamlet]

Also during the last pokemon movie with Zarude, man that had some scenes too

[fiery stratus]

Imagine if ash wouldve fallen over and shattered when he was stone

[ornate hamlet]

😭

[late sapphire]

taxe is boring and bad

[verbal thistle]

erm

no?

[patent steeple]

I guess all the talk of ”taxe psykers stay winning” and such made me easily convinced of it being a good build, because I hadn’t tried it out yet at the time…

[patent mango]

3928 unnamed taxe psykers coming out of the warp

[late sapphire]

My beloved says taxe sucks

[verbal thistle]

the voices

CIVI taxe psyker with no soulblaze is amazing

psyker gets the crit chance Taxe wants for ADM

and scales finesse with SG and DD

[late sapphire]

Makes you fall asleep though

[verbal thistle]

with the mobility too, its just a better knife

[late sapphire]

Cause its so boring and bad

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[late sapphire]

Knife sucks also

Sometimes when i can't sleep but have to i boot up darktide and play a taxe psyker it helps a lot

Saved me at least 3€ of sleeping meds

[patent mango]

i never enjoyed knoif much

[cosmic sigil]

Eu spotted

Bro is flaunting his healthcare system

[verbal thistle]

I still want DS to get buffed

[patent mango]

thats just the normal system though

[verbal thistle]

the horde clear is why its so bad

[late sapphire]

My insurance denied payment for sleeping meds, said i could just play taxe psyker instead

[patent mango]

this is true and fact checked by real tide players

[upper sun]

SO TRU so very trvvv

lets buff ds4

[patent steeple]

I would fall asleep too, but only because I would get bored of waiting to be rescued after dying to a mauler/crusher group for the 8th time in one game…

[patent mango]

buff ds4 nerf ds5

[late sapphire]

ds4 too weak please buff

please fgs special on every light thx

[cosmic sigil]

Not for a lot of people in the world. We Eu have it better tbh

[patent mango]

im not EU

[patent mango]

true

[late sapphire]

I love the german healthcare system i can walk into a hospital deaf on one ear from otitis and they tell me to fuck off because i dont have an appointment

[upper sun]

also doctor goes on holiday when you get an appointment

[patent mango]

doctor took time off to play roblox

[cosmic sigil]

Don't you have like emergency services?

[late sapphire]

Ended up going to a shady back alley clinic where the polish doc took one look and prescribed antibiotics (duh). Also offered to prescribe ritalin unprompted

[patent mango]

take ritalin and become unstoppable

[prime elk]

eastern europeans getting shit done

[late sapphire]

I went to the emergency room and the nurse told me i'd have to wait like 5h because of no visible symptoms

[patent mango]

no visible deafness

[late sapphire]

This was the 2nd hospital the 1st i went to had time but no ear nose throat clinic so outright just couldn't treat it legally

My gp of course was on holiday

The upside is i didn't have to pay the downside is i couldn't just pay some doctor $100 to take a look right now

And all of that happened because i spent too much time with shitty plastic earbuds in because i'm a light ass sleeper

Nowadays I can just play taxe psyker and fall asleep on the spot earbuds or no

[upper sun]

aaaaaAAAA

fuck this game

ghost hit the trapper

then by the time i got unnetted it trapped me again

i rage quit

[quartz barn]

average clad moment

i like how everything lines up too

hit by disabler + ragequit

[upper sun]

i got netted twice by the same trapper

[upper sun]

the net tragged me into the tunnle of death

[quartz barn]

le tunnle

[patent mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1065385117398347837/1215718026058530836/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker456.gif

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna do auric? I need 7 levels on my new psyker

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[upper sun]

i can do one

[proper osprey]

What the scallop

I think it’s fine

Buff the tac axe and dclaw

[upper sun]

nah buff ds4

[proper osprey]

I see we’re being silly

[upper sun]

unironically tho

buff ironhelm

[proper osprey]

Nerf the shock maul

[proper osprey]

Just play crusis or however you spell it

[upper sun]

NO

[proper osprey]

This why ur bad

[patent mango]

nerf shock maul too op i see it once every 1000 lobbies

[upper sun]

member how hard people were riding release bolt pistol and shock maul

[patent mango]

bistol is actually good lol

[upper sun]

now

[patent mango]

or at least decent idk

[upper sun]

release boltpistol was ass

[patent mango]

true

release smaul was too op so they removed it from the game

[crude cape]

whats the best build for electric staff rn

blessings/perks/dump stat

[analog agate]

Dump warp res. Blessings are nexus/flurry. perks flak and unyielding

[late sapphire]

mad cause im right

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332767309353324574/1351670290014408887/IMG_6166.gif

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/eTcpDx0rUrO.gif

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[patent mango]

fortnite 2 cancelled

[proper osprey]

Bulwark buff

[celest valve]

knife sucks unless you want to go fast

i like going fast

anyway which mark for FGS should you use I heard mk 8 is the best

[proper osprey]

Mk8 is pretty solid and simple

It’s what I use

[nocturne dust]

FGS sucks unless you want to play the game

Use DS instead

[patent mango]

mk6 funny

[marble crater]

You should use the one you like more, the difference between them is not big enough

[patent mango]

ds4 buffs when

[proper osprey]

What the scallop is happening

[proper osprey]

This is bait

I know it

[proper osprey]

We got baiters in here

[proper osprey]

[nocturne dust]

I am a master baiter

[patent mango]

i mean its true fgs has a real moveset

ds doesnt

[nocturne dust]

I ranked up to master baiter after getting my ASS

[celest valve]

actually no me asking which mk is better was bait

[marble crater]

Never answering your questions again

[celest valve]

evem deadvoid fell to the bait

lol

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/siXFPeAW63s.gif

[nocturne dust]

Yes, that is why I answered very seriously

[proper osprey]

Oh my scallops

[patent mango]

bait used to be powerful

[proper osprey]

Everyone is ragebaiting

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/deimos-r6-siege-gif-6204485797971098070

[patent mango]

im not ds really has no moveset

lmoa

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/4lokogangemperor-rage-bait-rage-bait-china-lore-gif-8233022608665380998

[patent mango]

lock in!!!!!!

[lone ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-whar-whar-what-cat-whar-cat-cat-whar-slow-blink-orange-cat-whar-slow-blink-gif-6291533950402242103

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-slugcat-rain-world-rainworld-saint-gif-10066899938571318604

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/parasyte-lock-in-locked-in-serious-meme-gif-13189278796605253304

[lone ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/rainworld-rain-world-slugcat-slugpup-saint-gif-3472776221474301395

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184257191746752583/1340087146161115136/1485_-273819595.gif

[celest valve]

still need to find a penetration dump DS so I can maximize dodge length

[lone ravine]

penetration true dumpstat since uncanny exists

real and true

[celest valve]

look I just want a maxed mobility and defence score

so I can see funny long dodge

[lone ravine]

mortis dodge indulgence be upon ye

[proper osprey]

Ij zealot with uncanny mk5 ds with pen dump

[marble crater]

We are still rage baiting I see

[proper osprey]

No that’s the zealot space program

I’ve flew into the air and couldn’t dodge and I got overheaded my a crusher

[rich spindle]

i dump damage on knife

[verbal thistle]

same

[jovial juniper]

Weird flex but ok

[verbal thistle]

they had to say it

okay?

the voices

[strong gulch]

To be fair, there isn't as big a damage difference when dumping damage vs not. It's kinda funny.

[verbal thistle]

i bring grey knife

non empowered

okay, thats it from me

[strong gulch]

Level a new character for the starter weapons.

[verbal thistle]

yes

[rich spindle]

i looked at the tooltip and the difference was like 20 dam on heavies

give me that mobility son

[strong gulch]

Right? so silly

[long wharf]

and what's the mobility difference between 60 and 80?

[strong gulch]

Though, you could also dump pen and rely on uncanny

[strong gulch]

smol

76 on all stats

[nocturne dust]

friendly reminder that the tooltips can lie

[rich spindle]

I tried that but the first stab is so pathetic lol

[strong gulch]

true

[nocturne dust]

20 damage on the tooltip is potentially a lot more in reality

[rich spindle]

ill keep that in mind

[strong gulch]

In meat grinder months ago it was much

not cleave damage bad tho

[rich spindle]

I put block efficiency and stamina on my DS to feel something

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-fancy-charmed-disgusted-rude-gif-11957685203459795514

[rich spindle]

aweesome gif

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/aitor-gif-7084060237011549479

[nocturne dust]

Rejects after a mission

[verbal thistle]

gotta shower

[nocturne dust]

I bet we only get cold showers

[verbal thistle]

room temp

[nocturne dust]

You think they keep the ship at room temp?

Hadron probably demands it be cold for efficiency's sake or something

[verbal thistle]

afir

fair

[marble crater]

The love of the Emperor is all the warmth I need

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-idk-we-chil-like-that-chill-chill-cat-fist-bump-gif-688974459687798114

[jovial juniper]

I was about to say talentless oggy

But I don't know which weapon is currently the underdog on Oggy

[verbal thistle]

Pmaul

[jovial juniper]

If grey, yes

If not then no

Weapon so bad it has Brutal Momentum

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[weary idol]

brutal momentum but no damaage

sad days for power maul

[jovial juniper]

If it's a good weapon it has BM
If it's a bad weapon it has BM, I mean look at the tactical axe, tac bad

[fathom adder]

"If it's a good weapon, it's got Brutal Momentum!"

"If it's a bad weapon, it's a bad weapon with Brutal Momentum!"

"Ain't the Warp hell?!"

[broken carbon]

LMFAO

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/veronica-mars-veronica-mars-season1-kristen-bell-enrico-colantoni-rico-colantoni-gif-17064349

[broken carbon]

every time someone says taxe is bad a puppy gets kicked

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-fancy-fancy-pants-drip-black-tux-gif-2471893143588443346

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-im-sorry-little-one-gif-12454554

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/chogie-spags-ugly-white-dog-chogie-kick-chogie-flwgc-gif-23274966

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-kick-love-pt-gif-5907637

[slim gate]

brand new to the game --
I would enjoy if someone listed a good early accessible generalist/meta adjacent build

or just weapons or abilities to steer away from entirely...

[prime elk]

there's a bunch of staffker builds int he pins, which should be a good starting point

[strong harbor]

meleeker

[paper harbor]

psylot

[nocturne dust]

Zealot at Home

[wind spruce]

Same but whenever someone says precog is good

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-fancy-fancy-pants-drip-black-tux-gif-2471893143588443346

[late sapphire]

see the above

[broken carbon]

rent free in ur head

[wind spruce]

My life is just hating precog

[plucky flax]

Why battle med and not crack and bones?

If you want to stay in gaze.

[dull scroll]

he's using a ds instead of fgs

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/disapproval-smh-bernie-sanders-head-shake-no-gif-15470964

[paper harbor]

riposte emotional support you

[wind spruce]

Bc it's a voidstrike build

[plucky flax]

Who plays voidstrike in 2025?

[fathom adder]

Lots of people (I can't name any)

[verbal thistle]

2

[late sapphire]

its pre fgs

[late sapphire]

its peak

[late sapphire]

i love gambling

[plucky flax]

Tru and fair

[jovial juniper]

In fact I played two matches yesterday

One without Warp Splitting

And one with Transfer Peril instead of surge

https://tenor.com/view/chad-man-chadiest-black-gif-25067424

[nocturne dust]

Y'know, I play Voidstrike way better when my character is short for some reason

but I play melee way worse 😭

[hardy coral]

Peak Havoc 40 efficiency.

[dull scroll]

what happened to your melk bucks

[jovial juniper]

The first one was mercantile
Pretty solid teammates

The second one, well it was easy

[hardy coral]

still trying to get all 430 curio's.

[nocturne dust]

You don't benefit from anything higher than 410

[hardy coral]

i still want them since i have nothing else to spend them on.

[radiant frigate]

explain.. are you the one doing the kicking in this case?

[fallow pawn]

Does this build flow with greatsword?

I do dislike the dueling. Feels kinda meh on psyker. Atleast in my hands.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, FGS is a general weapon

It tends to work with anything

[wispy bay]

If you want to go Vstrike, you can run BB/KF instead of Assails, since they take the same niche, but KF makes your vstrike more effective overall.

[nocturne dust]

That said, that build does do a lot to support FGS

[fallow pawn]

Banger, thank you.

[wispy bay]

FGS is also a great option for Vstrike since you really want something to clear through horde.

[nocturne dust]

or be a leet vstrike user and clear the horde with vstrike

[wispy bay]

🤔

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/KDE17OkUGvw

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[wispy bay]

Ah yes, the one dimensional horde.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's fairly trivial to get the horde to walk in a line

[wispy bay]

I did a H33 havoc Vstrike the other day, work great still.

[tacit stump]

what do you think about deinos and obscurus special and how would you shange them

[nocturne dust]

They suck, make them horde clear or something

You could give Obscurus a strong stagger special and Deimos a horde clear

[tacit stump]

would be funny if deimos would got a sharged up stab like a laser which pierces

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you could do something like an anti-boss charged attack to keep it from overshadowing Illisi (but it already does that)

[tacit stump]

i mean hordeclear as in a line from you

[quartz barn]

Cast time is too long for its effect

Why stunlock yourself when you get to kill in less than half the time + continue attacking

But tbh their special just got powercrept

[tacit stump]

same problem with chain weapons

[restive slate]

Chain weapons with bleed wreck bosses at least

[tacit stump]

chain weapon should have still rev attack but revving should make damage in multiple ticks

and not one burst at the end

[late sapphire]

No that sucks

Don't do that

[plucky flax]

I use it for muties

[dull scroll]

make them toggle like the relic

[steep crow]

is 360 the max a weapon can be?

[wispy bay]

Why do you need to be so stiff?

How often do you use suck build or just got 1 or 2 games then done?

[nocturne dust]

I agree with them, do not swap Assail for BB of all things

They do not overlap at all

Assail is good for spreadout shooters and horde, something BB very much is not and something that so happens to be what Voidstrike lacks

Yes, Assail also deals with specials and elites faster than BB

because BB sucks

[upbeat kestrel]

I use bb because of pathing

Not because i want to

[nocturne dust]

I would take Assail every single build if it was center

[wispy bay]

I don't pick BB to use BB, but to use KF.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but Voidstrike uses Assail

so BB is not a replacement

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/elgatitolover-cat-kitty-elgatito-explosion-gif-8874415577877859154

[plucky flax]

Based kf enjoyer

[raven mountain]

Ngl, if I'm going to be going vs+assail, I'm just not going to go vs.

[nocturne dust]

You're allowed to have wrong opinions

[raven mountain]

Assail just feels more generally usable. If my use case for vs in that build is like bulwarks and crushers, then I'd rather bring vb.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Assail can't cleave a horde in a single shot

That's the usecase of VS, it is far more powerful, but is effectively a laser of death

You have to use positioning and kiting to get enemies to stand in a line

[raven mountain]

Can throw out a bunch in the charge time.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but then you're out of charges and the next horde is upon you

[raven mountain]

Kinda never happens ime. But I've never tried using assail in h40s

[radiant frigate]

also funni crusher oneshots

[nocturne dust]

Like, literally in this video

I cleave through a horde way faster than Assail could

[radiant frigate]

assail good for soft targets

[nocturne dust]

Even in aurics, it's pretty easy to overuse assail if you're not using your secondary

[raven mountain]

Yeah, I weave them together all the time.

If I'm just mindlessly left clicking, it runs out, but that feels like user error.

[nocturne dust]

and also, you're comparing it to one of the two most overpowered weapons in the game

Yeh, Trauma stronger

But Voidstrike is nice because your range isn't limited and it's fairly easy to counter-snipe snipers with it

[raven mountain]

I just prefer more delineated use cases between my gear. Not strictly comparing vs and vb.

[nocturne dust]

and it also just works on everything

[plucky flax]

I only use assails when I play void

[nocturne dust]

Your 🅱️istol videos say otherwise

[raven mountain]

I do like vs, but I use shriek for anti-wide horde. Or just fgs or something. Or just try to position well.

[tacit stump]

can't we just swap smite out with something more damaging

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

Bistol gud

[nocturne dust]

🅱️istol remains trash

[tacit stump]

smyker rection to my comment

[tacit stump]

i use it only on zealot

[plucky flax]

Only noobs players would say bistol bad

[raven mountain]

You're allowed to have wrong opinions.

[nocturne dust]

Then don't take those

Take scrier's

Take knife

Voidstrike isn't for wide horde anyway, it's for line horde

[raven mountain]

Actually, I take scrier's knife with vb for bulwarks, lol

[nocturne dust]

Sad I have none.

😏

[nocturne dust]

No, you take Scrier's for Voidstrike, and knife for mobility.

[tacit stump]

i use infantry autoguns for gunker

[nocturne dust]

VB and knife sure

but VB and scrier's? How dare you

[raven mountain]

No, I take scrier's for knife and speed.

Vb is literally just the fastest way to open a line of bulwarks

[tacit stump]

i thought scrier is finesse

vb?

[nocturne dust]

Imagine taking a unique class with cool, specialized weaponry and perks, and deciding to strip that all away in favor of a playstyle copied from other classes with generic weapons.

smh my head

[tacit stump]

i dislike playing scriers with staffs...

[nocturne dust]

Yes