psyker-class

[naive imp]

i haven't played since launch

lol

[cosmic sigil]

OH BOY

[patent mango]

Dev Note: We have a known issue related to this talent which will be fixed in the next hotfix. When a player meets the conditions of Mettle more than 30 times without it falling off, the game client will crash.

[worthy wasp]

Ahhh

[cosmic sigil]

ok bro take it easy

[worthy wasp]

Basically, psyker has been arguably the strongest class in the game for a long time

[jovial juniper]

Oh launch psyker was 💀

[naive imp]

lmao yea it was

i mean people were still using it but

yea

[fresh reef]

I miss 48% peril for cast trauma staff

Please bring that back

[naive imp]

i just remember using the missiles and laughing my way through the game before it got nerfed

it would 1shot everything and zip around

[fresh reef]

Huh

Buddy that wasn't at launch lol

[naive imp]

there was a patch where it was really overtuned

idk my last message was 11/28

[cosmic sigil]

the year?

[naive imp]

23

[cosmic sigil]

just after patch 13/14

yeah, they reworked the tree a lot

[naive imp]

aright so is vortex just...plug and play?

no install path?

someone hold me

[worthy wasp]

People that say psyker is squishy -> ignore
Psyker bad -> ignore

Psyker is p insane right now and has been for a while

[cosmic sigil]

i don't use vortex for mods but normally it works and has been for a while

[fresh reef]

imo vortex is unnecessary

[naive imp]

dang it

old way it be

[fresh reef]

There's a batch file somewhere on nexus that autogenerates a mod load list for you

Lemme find it rq

[worthy wasp]

Illisi is really strong with charged strike

[patent mango]

ok time to see if my game explodes from mod issues

[patent mango]

wait is it

does charged strike actually do something now?

[cosmic sigil]

what is charged strike actually

[worthy wasp]

Illisi was already in a solid place before but charged strike is 🤌

[cosmic sigil]

i don't think i go that way

[worthy wasp]

The smite node that makes your heavies electrify enemies

[fresh reef]

Anyone tried the wall change yet? Curious to know if the damage is noticeable

[worthy wasp]

They buffed the damage of the electrify effect

[fresh reef]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/139?tab=files&file_id=957 @naive imp

[naive imp]

i got this stuff

[fresh reef]

Put this into the same folder as your mods

[naive imp]

is there a way to just auto update it all? lol

[fresh reef]

Double click and it should generate the load order file for you (just don't forget to save it)

[worthy wasp]

The weapons that really benefitted from the Charged Strike change are Illisi, dclaw, shock maul.

DS4 doesn't need, combat axes/heavy swords already have infinite cleave, etc...

[naive imp]

you don't need the mod load order txt anymore?

[cosmic sigil]

wait

WAIT

[naive imp]

or this replaces it?

[cosmic sigil]

TAXE

you can test it music?

i am working rn

[worthy wasp]

Taxes got that poopoo range

And the electrify doesnt stack

[cosmic sigil]

the pa + h1 loop[

[worthy wasp]

Ye

[fresh reef]

You do, this just generates a new one with whatever mods you have in that folder

[worthy wasp]

Its not terrible but

[fresh reef]

Less typing n all that

[worthy wasp]

The weapons that benefit the most from charged strike are ones without infinite cleave damage

And have horizontal heavies that hit a solid chunk of enemies

[naive imp]

so i just need to go through each of those and update individually and replace?

vortex would do that automatically?

[worthy wasp]

Dclaw, shock maul, and Illisi

Maybe the chaxe?

But chaxe is capped at like 4 enemies iirc

[autumn lark]

no.

just install manually and use the auto mod load order mod

[patent mango]

vortex is haunted

[naive imp]

there's a minimap mod?

lmao shieeeet

[fresh reef]

You do need to update your mods individually, yes

[summer prairie]

ignore the spam, check out charged strike https://streamable.com/khnsrj

[patent mango]

i forgor mods

[patent mango]

YO

[fresh reef]

Dude there are so many mods that border on just blatant cheating it's kinda hilarious

[patent mango]

fatshark allows them so is what it is

[naive imp]

god...

[fresh reef]

Guh

[naive imp]

going through all of this again is a pain in the ass

[clear heath]

okay you've convinced me

[naive imp]

i'm about to delete them all and just start over

[cosmic sigil]

lacerate?

[patent mango]

this migght be peak......

[fresh reef]

Might actually make me pick smite for reasons other than pathing

[summer prairie]

there's lacerate too

[cloud night]

Bruhh

[pallid pine]

wait wtf is that bleed proccing it?

[copper jay]

What is the role of Ogryn in team ?

[jovial juniper]

Hear me out weapon with Skullcrusher

[naive imp]

yes

[jovial juniper]

Solid pilar

[patent mango]

wall

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-get-physical-gif-27070277

[jovial juniper]

You basically keep the team alive

Be it taunt

[patent mango]

and the enemies not alive

[jovial juniper]

Shooting

Skullbreaking

[cosmic sigil]

rampage skullcrusher dclaw

[jovial juniper]

If a teammate goes down
Woops here comes Ogryn

[naive imp]

is that a full list of the mods you have? i'm just going to copy it and hope it all loads. lol

[jovial juniper]

"boom hehehe" nuke goes off

[fresh reef]

No

Download the bat file from that link

Put it into your mods folder

Then run it

[naive imp]

sure but i have to go through and update whatever is in there...so i just wanted a list of mods people are using to go through and install/update

deleting and starting over for ease of what i have updated versus don't

[fresh reef]

No such thing exists besides Vortex(tho idk I don't use it)

[patent mango]

does charged strike proc malefic momentum

[fresh reef]

It does

Which is insanely fucking funny

[patent mango]

LETS GOOOOOOOO

ok lets see which of my mods exploded

[naive imp]

welp

i'm outtie. lmao

take it easy boyos! enjoy convicts!

[autumn lark]

fuck me its finally useful

[analog agate]

Scoreboard I will hope gets fixed

DI plug in for it is toast though

[patent mango]

oof

[marble crater]

Literally all of them

[plucky flax]

Smite melee build op?

[patent mango]

lol

[fresh reef]

If only smykers could melee... 😢

[plucky flax]

Tru I'd rather spam smite

[fresh reef]

I tried playing pub havoc the other day

Only way we got through it was by me holding down smite constantly because the team was that bad

Sometimes I stopped smiting for usually 1-2 minutes, just to see who would fall over first

It was almost always the ds4/plasma/shout vet lol

[plucky flax]

Sorry was me

[cosmic sigil]

AgentCatastrophe

[patent mango]

my auto select psykhanium difficulty mod puts me in tutorial now

its over

time to kill it

[patent mango]

does it really

i d ont see it proc

[fresh reef]

I have no idea tbh

Just kinda assumed it would lol

[wispy bay]

The tranquillity of playing without mods

[summer prairie]

more charged strike, seems good on some weapons https://streamable.com/m38epu

[clear heath]

this is literally the first time i've seen shock maul in first person view

i should try the weapon out

eventually

[hearty wolf]

I will make my return soon, friends.

[jovial juniper]

Is that with the high voltage blessing included?

[summer prairie]

yes

[jovial juniper]

[upper sun]

wait until mettle is fixed gunker isnt playable in trials yet

[summer prairie]

charged strike is like trippling damage there

[fresh reef]

Finally, hilariously good shock maul

[hearty wolf]

I'm still reading the patch notes but to me it looks extremely good across the board.

I'm half way through them though.

What's the community sentiment on it like?

[analog agate]

On “it”? The trials?

[clear heath]

gun psyker seems overbuffed but no one can even play it because it crashes lmao

[hearty wolf]

On all of the new patch. Trials, havoc changes and general balance.

[marble crater]

Hi Sin

[analog agate]

Ah. Well, quell canceling seems to have been done away with so huge nerf to VB staff users. But it is unnecessary buffs to psyker (right side) and it seems ogryn will be a lot of fun

[clear heath]

ogryn rework feels great. Might be a bit too strong but whatever.
The tree itself allows for a lot of build variety

[marble crater]

Ogryn has suffered enough, let them be too strong, they earned it

[analog agate]

New havoc changes look fucking great. Trials I don’t know much about

[silver pagoda]

did they ruin assails secondary fire? doesn't seem to home as good as before

[patent mango]

charged strike is hilarious

[hearty wolf]

Hi :)

[patent mango]

it doesnt seem to proc malefic though

[hearty wolf]

I'm feeling better than before. Less angy and more patient

[hearty wolf]

I think quell cancelling being removed is a very good thing. I understand it can suck though.

But like all the changes seem good to me. I'm very curious about the havoc pacing and I'm hoping it will feel like there is a sense of oppression

Think the Trials isn't the game mode for me but hope it's a lot of fun for others

[wispy bay]

There are so many buff that removing quell can is not a big loss.

[clear heath]

I haven't played staff psyker yet but just trying it in psykanium, the implementation of quell cancel removal feels fine.
It's just a minimum of quelling 1 tick when you quell and doesn't feel too long

[copper jay]

What are Havocs changes ?

[clear heath]

I don't think it'll really hurt VB much if you were gonna actually quell anyways between casts

[hearty wolf]

I think Psyker was so strong before that quell cancelling needed to be removed

[copper jay]

Quell cancelled ? Now Inferno way stronger than Voidblast ?

Oh

Json is talking about this

Sorruy

[pallid pine]

with the special attack and 3 heavies it can kill crusher lmao with skull crusher high voltage ofc

[analog agate]

Essentially, much harder. Here is the detailed vid

https://youtu.be/VnQZZMNwXlg?si=UVePjpmkRgsz5HYq

[copper jay]

More ... Harder ?

[hearty wolf]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/nightmares-visions-patch-notes?utm_source=discord&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=q1_2025

If you want the article instead

It looks harder to me on paper

Like it should be

It's also a lot less static

Which is something that really pissed me off about havoc

Also map pool change finally

[analog agate]

I haven’t tried it yet. But if you can’t quell cancel in between blasts on VB it is a substantial nerf to VB. That is, if you aren’t going to weapon swap cancel instead

[copper jay]

Increase density will make Psyker more OP for Havoc, I think ?

(I'm lvl havoc 18 dont throw me stones)

[wispy bay]

I will throw boulder instead.

[analog agate]

Psyker for sure isn’t affected as much with infinite cleave mechanics. But overall it is a team game in havoc and will be harder for everyone including psyker

[hearty wolf]

It also sort of depends how you play and the metric you're looking at.

There's also new modifiers which might really hurt Psyker but I doubt it

I'm still not getting off the bonk hammer no matter what

[analog agate]

Psyker meta will be the same

[wispy bay]

Overall meta is the same imo.

[hearty wolf]

^

[analog agate]

Even though it is a “nerf” inferno and VB will be the go to with ds

The modifiers are just harder in general and require more target priority

[hearty wolf]

They'd have to rework soulblaze to rebalance Psyker lmao

[marble crater]

Every target is my priority

[copper jay]

There is inferno nerf ?

[analog agate]

Yeah, that is what path.exe really wants. I firmly believe FS aren’t going to touch it

[marble crater]

No

[deft stump]

More, if enemy hit low enough hp without dying, it will HURT.

[hearty wolf]

Oh yeah I agree. It's not going to be touched but I think it's healthy for the game.

[deft stump]

And DoTs suck at 2 shotting.

[analog agate]

The current havoc mutators are nerf to soulblaze (inferno staff) as tick dmg will cause the enraged conditions

[prime elk]

We’re giving the Psyker a few bumps here and there to hopefully even out the power of different builds and playstyles.

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

do the devs play their own fucking game

[copper jay]

Rending VD new meta ?

[wispy bay]

Maybe VoC Chorus are a little nerfed by the Enraged modifier, but not by much.

[prime elk]

Assail, while not terrible, is lacking behind its two competitors of Blitz Abilities.

clearly not

[clear heath]

i think they're just balancing based off havoc pickrate

[hearty wolf]

Insignificantly, imo.

[marble crater]

Gold toughness is gold toughness and chorus still makes the team invincible, should be fine

[hearty wolf]

^

[copper jay]

I hope to see Ogryn meta builds for Havoc40 ...

[hearty wolf]

Even if chorus was literally +1 toughness, I'd still pick it

[marble crater]

And they buffed the damage buff from chorus

[prime elk]

wouldn't be surprised if they were using asinine metrics to make balance decisions

[analog agate]

Maels are also, sadly, going to become a joke with the power creep happening

[wispy bay]

Siro, they are inhaling Nurgle gas, let them be.

[marble crater]

So easier to burst elites down

[clear heath]

seeing how strong ogryn is now, there probably will be plenty that work well

[hearty wolf]

To be fair. A lot of what was done this patch seems to be fairly good.

In games there's ALWAYS this argument of "Should be balance for the masses or the elite?"

The problems with both are obvious.

[clear heath]

Assail getting buffed is whatever imo. I don't think it really changes how you use it in auric and in havoc it just didn't get used much before

I think crack of bone buff is pretty overkill tho

[prime elk]

true, it's just more about how out of touch the devs are lol

[hearty wolf]

Precisely.

[deft stump]

Masses is usually better to attract players.

[prime elk]

like not realizing DS is super fucking overtuned rn

until literally a week ago

or if they did, leaving strawhat in the dark lol

[deft stump]

But usually the hardcore are the ones to stay.

[loud girder]

brother ignore ds
check ogryn channel
They are 2 shotting crushers with every melee

[hearty wolf]

Exactly Karien.

[loud girder]

[hearty wolf]

But I can 1 shot them >;(

[marble crater]

Strawhat is not a dev, so wouldn't surprise me I guess

[tiny river]

what is actually going on with Scriers gaze Ive crashed like 5 times now

[deft stump]

Even Bully?

[hearty wolf]

Are you using mettle?

[marble crater]

You crit too much, stop criting

[deft stump]

EVEN PAUL?

[tiny river]

I dont remember, lemme check

[analog agate]

The battlefield 5 way lmao. They changed the game in such a shitty fashion to reach new players who weren’t even gonna play/stay.

[loud girder]

the hardcores will always find things 2 easy its best to attract other type of players too

[deft stump]

Mettle over 29 stacks in a row crashes.

[clear heath]

I only had time for one game before work.
These ragers feel like tissue paper
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922136978865156168/1354068468969771059/3F3EB51.MP4?ex=67e3f208&is=67e2a088&hm=e3a423ac2ac4270cc5f35d64addfad47fa7640eaaa173cad27c1d65a72f8caf2&

[marble crater]

BF1 was the last good BF and I will die on this hill

[loud girder]

[deft stump]

But if you don't attract new players, the game dies. So you need to find a fair middle ground somehow.

[tiny river]

oh thats probably why

[analog agate]

I think most agree. It was the last one made by a lot of the old guard before they left. BF5’s movement tech was a really good change (that was then ignored in 42 😡).

[hearty wolf]

Think it applies to far too many games.

And ngl I was really pissed about it but you know what? Have you seen how terrible some people are at games?

Like when I watched my gf play games for the first time. I was in utter shock at how... interesting the gameplay is.

And integral gameplay mechanics aren't balanced as much as just a difficulty mode (i.e they don't rework dodging, they'd rather rework weapons or what not)

[cloud night]

Any new music for mortis trials?

[loud girder]

there's a difference between abandoning your entire indentity and just making your game more apprachable
rn darktide is average like 5k players daily aint no way they are happy with this

[deft stump]

Is why I would just ignore the DS and leave it as the crutch stick for newbies or not so good players.

[loud girder]

i know it has more on consoles but how much?

[marble crater]

All they had to do was BF5, but like BF1. Improve it and you have a hit game, but nope

[deft stump]

The actually good ones would meme around with sus loadouts anyway.

[hearty wolf]

Minus the hackers, I can agree with this.

But peak battlefield was probably Bad Company 2 for me.

Maybe battlefield 3

[radiant frigate]

cultured individual

[hearty wolf]

As much as people like 4, I don't think it was good

[analog agate]

I liked bF4 more. But I can’t deny BF3 rush mode I had more fun with and loved that specific mode

[hearty wolf]

That's another thing. Keeping a player base is ridiculously hard nowadays anyway.

[deft stump]

Thus, needs to attract more players. Some ppl think havoc diff is normal even tbh.

[radiant frigate]

i like how the classes had their own voices for bc2

rather than Generic Faction A/Generic Faction B

[deft stump]

And personally, if all I knew was havoc, I rather not get the game. Not worth the stress. Is why I don't have GTFO as well.

[loud girder]

that's true
only ultra sweat and battle royal games keep decent playerbases now

[hearty wolf]

I liked it more but don't think it was as polished is all.

The launch for battlefield 4 was HORRIBLE. And the overuse of thermals was pretty silly. Still battlefield 4 operation locker always makes me happy

[pallid ibex]

Let's go more buffs to scriers gaze and disrupt destiny for my build that already does over double the damage of everyone else in my matches

[radiant frigate]

especially great when playing russian side and asking a teammate to drop ammo (your character asks in their native language, but your teammate doesn't speak russian, looks at you in confusion and walks off)

[hearty wolf]

I honestly hate it so much XD. Like.

Battle royales are such a dogshit game mode imo.

It's like making a survival game but adding an endgame in 30m.

Imagine if DayZ had a 30m time limit. That's what battle royale is. Strip away the depth and make it fast paced for the zoomers

[analog agate]

Fucking launch on bf4 lmao. Couldn’t even play Locker into months in

[hearty wolf]

Pretty much XD.

[hearty wolf]

Yeah subtitles not turned on by default for that always makes me laugh. Asking for frustration

That's another thing I find more in battlefield 1 and 5. People kinda stop giving a shit as much about their classes

They play classes for the guns or to do something themselves rather than use their utility as much

You don't see assaults following engineers as much for example.

[radiant frigate]

is assault still medic

[analog agate]

The ones who care went to Hell Let Loose (great game)

[radiant frigate]

oh and another favorite

"we made it so you have to account for bullet drop at range"

[hearty wolf]

I've seen a lot of gameplay of it and it genuinely looks really fun.

I played a lot of Insurgency and since then, I've just...stopped playing shooters.

Or at least, PvP shooters.

[radiant frigate]

(only applies to snipers and every other gun has bullets that fire straight)

honestly hilarious

[analog agate]

I have stopped until the new BF comes. But HLL is the one I still play. It honestly isn’t as sweaty. Insurgency I really liked but I have never met so many racists before

[deft stump]

At that point, just play sniper elite or the zombie army things.

I at least, get funni cam crotch shots.

[loud girder]

ill get the new bf when it comes out and ill suck absolute ass cause i havent played one seriously in ages and i cant hit shit

[radiant frigate]

anyway idk why I'm saying all this, i haven't played these games in forever

nor do i intend to

[marble crater]

Stop shooting people in the crotch

[radiant frigate]

in the dongliz? a low blow

[deft stump]

Nu. I am gud at crotch shots on male chars.

95% accidental.

[analog agate]

What has gotten me to stop playing most shooters anymore though is the nerfing of mnk and how much buffing controllers have gotten through auto aim, screen shake, and screen effects

And I am out of my counter strike phase

[deft stump]

Screen effects just blinds me in sense. Autoaim/aimassist usually is just okay.

They aren't usually crazy. At least not DT's assist.

[marble crater]

DT assist is actually a disadvantage

[hearty wolf]

Halo is one of the worst offenders of this

Shit is literally wall hacks

I just CBA with shooters because I'll never be as good as x or y

[analog agate]

Lol didn’t someone show at the initial release of infinite there was obviously not only regular Halo auto aim, but anti mouse sniper aim? Like, it would actually be harder to flick on enemies with a mouse

[marble crater]

I remember there was something about the crosshair not turning red, to counter cheats

[haughty star]

Hell let loose is not a game you play if kill to death is your most important angle

[upper sun]

everyone likes it except 2 guys on the forum but havoc is still shit with the deranking and progression new modifiers seem good but i havent tried them yet

[deft stump]

Hilariously.

[summer prairie]

we got literally like 20 enraged bulwarks cornering us in the dark communion elevator

[hearty wolf]

Is deranking really that bad?

[deft stump]

It's harder to go up now.

[hearty wolf]

I wanna come home and play 😭

[upper sun]

it shouldnt exist at all tbh

[hearty wolf]

How/why

[summer prairie]

it wasn't ever too bad until that

[deft stump]

You can't skip to H40.

[marble crater]

I thought you still can if you just wait a week?

[deft stump]

And you don't get 12 tries now in a same party.

[summer prairie]

you do

[deft stump]

I heard someone ask about it.

[summer prairie]

they didn't do that change

[marble crater]

So rank up a week later and rank up a few levels for every assist?

Or just as it always was?

[burnt gazelle]

they're buffing scriers dd and assail?

and crack and malefic momentum? umm okay

[thorn cedar]

lmao yea

that was my reaction

Of all the skills that you could buff up on Psyker ... these ones?

[clear heath]

why tf did they double crack?

[patent mango]

GUYS

THE SHOP ROTATION ISNT SLOP!!!!!!!

[marble crater]

Vet skin looks so good

[patent mango]

LOOL

[marble crater]

[patent steeple]

is that the new event cosmetic reward?

[clear heath]

lmao wtf

[patent mango]

commodores

[patent steeple]

looks kinda garbage

[deft stump]

Paid???

[marble crater]

Now we finally know what they do with the scriptures we recover from missions

[sturdy reef]

Dreyko and Baross h40?

Nightmares are real

[marble crater]

Ascension Riser mid event

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't done Ascension Riser in ages. What's the midgame event again?

[sturdy reef]

Okay

I dig it

[marble crater]

With the trains that need to move out of the way

I don't have a high success rate on that event with pubs

[proud frost]

man
Spiteful Reload is utterly busted

infinite assail darts, as fast as i can throw them

shit is whack

[sturdy reef]

Oops, all bulwarks?

Also, has anyone tried quell cancelling with voidblast on the new patch?

[analog agate]

I asked. I don’t think anyone has tried yet

[proud frost]

had that + a boon that gave me 3 venting shrieks

i stg i managed to throw out 50-60 assails in a row without bursting

[sturdy reef]

I'll test during lunch

[marble crater]

wtf

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, yes. That one sucks

[sturdy reef]

Wat

I mean okay, Ill take it

[clear heath]

wait until you see crack of bone

[sturdy reef]

DD changes are very nice

[marble crater]

All the reactions to psyker buffs are the same

[cloud night]

Daily reminder

That

Magnus did nothing wrong

[clear heath]

who

[sturdy reef]

Lol tf

[cloud night]

How busted is it?

[clear heath]

they doubled the quell it does

[patent mango]

psyker darktide

[sturdy reef]

How am I ever going to reach 100 peril with sg now

[patent mango]

dont

[clear heath]

keeping up scriers should be easy now

[sturdy reef]

I dont run this on 1 of my 2 meleeker builds

[cloud night]

Bruhh lmao

[sturdy reef]

But

Still

[proud frost]

lol

[cloud night]

Infinite scriers

[sturdy reef]

Sg was already ez tbh

[clear heath]

i guess that's kinda in line with the quell on bullet crit thing anyways

but like why

[cloud night]

Cant wait to be in forever cyberpsykerpsychosis

[sturdy reef]

Psyker still has no melee support tslents

Sk

So

[clear heath]

1/5 of psykinetic's aura died for this

[sturdy reef]

Its fine tbh

PA needed a nerf lol

[gray zephyr]

is this the error related to mettle
[Script Error]: ...ts/extension_systems/buff/player_unit_buff_extension.lua:419: Cannot access property "template_name" on destroyed object of type Buff

[clear heath]

hmm

[cloud night]

Part of psykinetic's aura died for our sins

[sturdy reef]

This though

Hmmmm

[summer prairie]

okay so when you rank up, you get a new map even if you were assisting

[sturdy reef]

Can I stun a mutie

[marble crater]

Charged strike on illisi

[sturdy reef]

OBSCURUS PROPAGANDA

[cloud night]

Just 6 more hours before I get to actually try all this good shit

Work is a bitch

[hot flume]

is psyker dodge sliding with blitz and staff broken ???

[marble crater]

I don't think so?

[sturdy reef]

Why would it be?

[prime elk]

all it needs was the 10% attack speed, which it has now

and by now, i mean for a while lol

[vernal frost]

HOLY SHIT

[haughty star]

Bruh charged strike illisi boutta be lit

Or inversely on weapons that aren't typically good for hording

[sturdy reef]

Would it apply to fgs shockwave?

[haughty star]

Charged strike DS

[sturdy reef]

Hmmm

[haughty star]

[clear heath]

syllo also had a shock maul clip that looked pretty nice

[clear heath]

doubt it

[haughty star]

POKE THE MAP AWAY

[hot flume]

melee weapon slide dodge works normally staff/blitz you like stop at a very short distance in the dodge and you cant slide. that's what seems to be broken

basically forced to swap to melee to be able to do any kind of left/right dodge slide

[analog agate]

That would be a problem haha

[marble crater]

Strange

[deft stump]

Healing nades.

Healing nades???

[marble crater]

@deft stump did you see the controller players who suddenly suffer from stick drift, because they changed the dead zones with the patch

[upper sun]

🚬

so now gaze can save you from perils

what else

[marble crater]

With new crack of bone you will never have any peril anyway

[torn kernel]

so uh about the mettle thing

[upper sun]

i got an upgrade that gave me 1 shard for each kill

[torn kernel]

sg double barrel crashes nearly every shot

[upper sun]

shit was so stupid i had infinite assail

[marble crater]

Because it counts every pellet separately? That's hilarious

[torn kernel]

dude you can get free 10 BBs on BB usage

EP BB meme works in mortis

[torn kernel]

don't forget the cleave from manstopper

[cloud night]

Good thing I use mouse n keyboard

[haughty star]

Wait what

[torn kernel]

one of the indulgences in mortis

there's one that also procs 5 bleed + burn on bb

[haughty star]

Like a aoe burn or just single target

[torn kernel]

basically every time you BB it hits 10 other targets

actual nuke

[haughty star]

Also what the hell is a indulgence in mortis

[torn kernel]

the dots are single target

[torn kernel]

the buffs you can get in the new gamemode

[haughty star]

Maaaan here i was hoping they went and made brain burst good too lol

[torn kernel]

nah lmao

[long wharf]

alright siblings, thoughts on the update?

[buoyant maple]

Unless ur a veteran player, this is a really good update

[long wharf]

nothing in the patchnotes stuck out to me for psykers, other than the quelling change to prevent quell canceling

[buoyant maple]

Psyker got buffed

[clear heath]

they doubled crack of bone

[long wharf]

I don't think I use that

[cloud night]

Cant wait to revel in everlasting psykerpsychosis- I mean scriers gaze

[clear heath]

assail scriers and dd got buffed

[long wharf]

oh yeah, the 50% peril quell on activating SG

that's kind of a big deal

[analog agate]

Well, if Dopamine is right. Staff psyker is kinda broken (bugged, can’t slide with staves) atm and gun psyker is with mettle proccing >29 times crashes game

[long wharf]

the real question is - is the change to EP enough to make it better than DD?

[clear heath]

yeah everything sounds good on paper but good luck actually playing the game

nice prank fatshark

[long wharf]

the devs couldn't afford more than 5 bits for the Mettle counter

[analog agate]

Essentially, I don’t know if psyker can really be played atm. Besides melee psyker. The zealots have won

[long wharf]

memory is getting expensive or something

[clear heath]

small indie company

[long wharf]

oh fuck, the premium cosmetics are actually good looking

[clear heath]

they couldn't download more than 5 bits of ram

[long wharf]

psyker with a chain cover?

[buoyant maple]

Warp expenditure stocks are so high rn

[radiant frigate]

which part

[clear heath]

the quell

[radiant frigate]

understandable

[clear heath]

also buffed the duration and peril reduction a decent bit

but yeah the quell is now 10% per weakspot melee kill

instead of 5

[radiant frigate]

that's epic

big scrying

[prime elk]

all the playtesters are gunker mains

there's no other explanation

[deft stump]

Oh. I got pryo by accident.

[torn kernel]

Shredder gunker might be alright now actually

[analog agate]

Funny enough you are probably right. All the playtesters I know are zealot/ogryn players

[clear heath]

no one playtests psyker

[deft stump]

Immune. I set that in the app to 10% lul.

[analog agate]

I don’t know of a psyker playtester. I guess j_sat but I don’t know how involved he is like some of the others

[clear heath]

you think they test psyker at all? One of our most common talents crashes the game

[prime elk]

that's prob more accurate lol

[marble crater]

We need a psyker playtester to advocate for blaze trauma buffs

[prime elk]

"what do psykers need?" "idk, just buff everything and it'll work out"

[lone wing]

i would like to be a playtester, give me more reason to play the game

[deft stump]

But yeah, if you had it at 5%, it'll probs heh. Is worse on normal sticks, I bet.

[analog agate]

Crab was doing it a lot before the big skill tree patch. I don’t think he plays anymore though

[lone wing]

not sure how to go about actually getting in there though so i just haven't

[analog agate]

I think it is just getting lucky. Cole talked about how he became one a month ago in zealot chat

[clear heath]

i think jsat plays psyker judging from the bit of footage i've seen from him

[lone wing]

someone yoinked him in

[cloud night]

Psyker keeps crashing?
Damn rip
Good thing big man is my 2nd main

[long wharf]

yeah, I never use Crack of Bone

[lone wing]

but yeah I'll figure it out, will just play the game normally until then

[clear heath]

it's insane for maintaining scriers

they basically super buffed 1 build on psyker

[lone wing]

it's one of the single best scrier talents

[long wharf]

where the hell is Mettle?

[prime elk]

so you don't play gunker?

[long wharf]

nope, I hate it

[clear heath]

near the top

[long wharf]

I play psyker for the WARP

and space magic

[fresh reef]

Infinite smite is on the menu twice now, woo

[prime elk]

gunker is warp fuckery too

just gun-flavored

[long wharf]

oh shit, everybody uses Mettle

[clear heath]

yeah...

[marble crater]

[clear heath]

get fucked lmao

[long wharf]

welp

guess I'm gonna crash a lot

[fresh reef]

Isn't it all the crit conditionals?

[long wharf]

or not play psyker until the hotfix it

[fresh reef]

So perfect timing, Mettle, and EE?

[clear heath]

just play ogryn like everyone else

[long wharf]

yeah, time to bring the big man out of the closet

dust him off

damn shame, too, because the new psyker cosmetic is really nice

[fresh reef]

I'm gonna play no crit raw damage psyker

Sounds funny

[long wharf]

it sounds dangerous

[clear heath]

they "fixed" the crit conditionals not triggering sometimes but mettle specifically is what crashes

[long wharf]

like a friday night hookup without protection

[cloud night]

Raw doggy

[clear heath]

tfw fixing a bug crashes the game

[lone wing]

cease

[clear heath]

load bearing bug

[long wharf]

I mean, that's just programming in general

[patent mango]

its peak

[fresh reef]

Alright. That wording is a tad confusing but I'll take it at face value

[long wharf]

but FartShack is particularly incompetent

[cloud night]

No

[fresh reef]

Coconut jpeg all over again

[lone wing]

we don't want a repeat of zealchat

[fresh reef]

Lumii

2

[lone wing]

LOL

[cloud night]

This chat's like 40% zeal chat as far as i care

[lone wing]

i mean yeah most zealot mains second a psyker

[long wharf]

it is by vigilance that psyker chat retains its quality

[autumn smelt]

It's because of mettle

[long wharf]

keep zealotchat in zealot chat

[fresh reef]

I second zealot as a psyker main lol

[autumn smelt]

Remove mettle from your build if you're crashing on psyker

[lone wing]

based

[cloud night]

Fuck alr

[paper goblet]

jumping off a tall roof 'cuz my ball spam build gone 💔

[fresh reef]

Cry about it <3

[clear heath]

cole can you tell fatshark to fix the chorus sub nodes?

[analog agate]

It is a conspiracy to get us to use warp expenditure. They know we have been talking shit on it

[cloud night]

Ironically i 2nded zealot but have been slowly going ogryn way before the update

[clear heath]

they still can't count to 5

[lone wing]

skissue

[autumn smelt]

Should be fixed soon tho
the buff count (not effect) is stacking up to 31 internally and if it goes above your game doesn't know what to do and crashes

[left basin]

anything cool happening

[fresh reef]

Does this bug happen in zero ping environments?

[left basin]

did they give us something really cool

[clear heath]

oh i'm talking about a different bug with chorus

[marble crater]

I will just not take perfect timing until mettle is fixed it's the better to not play a build at all, than to play a worse version of the build

[upper sun]

i will say this prior to crashing twice gunker was a lot of fun

[left basin]

uuu dd is good

[long wharf]

oh my god

my ogryn joined the warp

[fresh reef]

The one where its subnodes don't proc on the fifth pulse but sometimes the 6th or 7th, no?

[clear heath]

chorus's sub nodes that activate on 5 pulses take anywhere between 5-7 pulses to activate, at random. mostly 6
Happens both in game and in psykanium

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sith-gif-7488176

[upper sun]

also ogryn feels amazin in auric

you take more damage than before but you do more damage and have better mobility

[cloud night]

Who?

[fresh reef]

It's better you don't know, honestly

[upper sun]

person who got banned from here

sivik is overreacting he wasnt that bad

[fresh reef]

(he wasn't I just like clowning on him cuz he was kind of a jerk)

[marble crater]

Why is he banned then?

[upper sun]

dramaposting

the most unforgivable of sins

[cosmic sigil]

Death by a thousand reports iirc

[clear heath]

I don't really feel strongly about him. I just think it was funny

[fresh reef]

kek

[long wharf]

you may not like it, but this is what peak ogryn performance looks like

"Sah, my face, sah"

[cloud night]

Im going to guess hes the reason zeal chat's a dumpster fire

[fresh reef]

I need you to just pop into a random malice pub and stare at people

Document their reactions

[upper sun]

also rock doesnt kill dreg flamers now for some reaosn

[long wharf]

I haven't left my inventory screen yet, so not sure if this'll persist

[marble crater]

Skill issue?

[analog agate]

Considering I have never heard of this person. Must be a zealot chat poster

[fresh reef]

Zealot chat's always been and will continue to be a containment channel for rampant schizophrenia

Can't really blame Lumii solely for that

[upper sun]

rock has a kill flag it doesnt need weakspot his for non armor kills

[clear heath]

rock nerf
ogryn rework is a failure

[long wharf]

I do like ogryn talent tree rework so far, though

[left basin]

SCRIER DD PSYKER REAL

[cloud night]

Blud really said zela chat is the equivalent of the fiends from new vegas

Im weak

[clear heath]

hank ruined ogryn...

[left basin]

sexxx

[long wharf]

not getting locked into a grenade in order to pick further on is good

[left basin]

um

[clear heath]

jokes aside, ogryn's tree is great now

[marble crater]

Need that for every tree. Give us assail with psy aura you cowards

[upper sun]

the tree is really good

[clear heath]

I would hope that zealot tree is next

[fresh reef]

BB with Malefic PLEASE

[thorn cedar]

I'll keep crashing instead >;(

[upper sun]

i cant believe the people that made it also made the psyker tree rework

[clear heath]

especially considering it seems like fatshark just abandoned the zealot tree this patch

[upper sun]

you'd love this trials has an upgrade thats pretty much malefic on crack

[prime elk]

psyker and vet were the classes that least need a tree rework, esp psyker

so naturally, psyker gets reworked first

[upper sun]

zealot then psyker again unironically

[left basin]

pfft no

[upper sun]

vet's tree is fine just some touch ups

[left basin]

psyker needs a SECOND rework

[upper sun]

yeah but zealot needs it more for now

[left basin]

(give me back my fucking true aim)

[vernal frost]

what about bmob rock

[left basin]

no no zealot needs to drink some juice

[fresh reef]

Psyker should have some form of self damage for edging

[left basin]

PSYKER chat

[upper sun]

i just tried 2 trials so far

[vernal frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179754855976402995/1354090234731565117/WMwFWcc.mp4?ex=67e4064d&is=67e2b4cd&hm=a7414194a0d1ffe1de80f96bd617c6cca664bc52536eaba1b214b2290b0fa816&

[upper sun]

crashed like hell on one

[summer prairie]

the DH modifier is pretty ridiculous, it keeps spamming it

[upper sun]

and team wiped due to trappers on the second

[vernal frost]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-rico-yes-rico-kaboom-gif-24767016

[long wharf]

man, there really isn't a reason to go Light 'Em Up any more

[clear heath]

zealot tree having a 4 point tax for reaching grenades and 0-2 points after is some fucked up shit.
I hope ogryn tree is a sign they've moved past this bs

[left basin]

how's ius

are psyker staff melees still turbo ass

[vernal frost]

https://www.twitch.tv/fatsharkgames

twitch drops

psyker set

[cloud night]

Ill miss doing this

[fresh reef]

Always will be

[vernal frost]

free shit

[fresh reef]

Thanks for the heads up, yoinking rn

[vernal frost]

did they announce this in advance?????

[wanton fossil]

What keeps ypi from doing this?

[mental grail]

Fucking assail got re-buffed

I used to pray for times like these

[dusky crag]

no lol

[long wharf]

yep, same

flaming gunlugger was the most fun I had as an ogryn

[clear heath]

i think it still does okay against bosses

[long wharf]

most of the ogryn tree rework seems to be making melee viable again

[clear heath]

16 stacks isn't exactly low

[long wharf]

which is fine, but they gutted my gunlugger =\

[vernal frost]

gunlugger gutted

noted

[autumn smelt]

Lol
Lmao even

[patent mango]

just use fire away rumbler

[vernal frost]

warcrime ogryn

[patent mango]

its hilarious

[autumn lark]

box of hurt is a lag switch

[patent mango]

[patent mango]

lmfao

[clear heath]

I can't wait to blind people and lag their pc

[clear heath]

filter out the weak computers

[lone wing]

shit my pc has issues with one of these going off lol

[fresh reef]

glad to see the box still nukes framerates

[cloud night]

Same tbh
Time to.be an Ogriefer

[long wharf]

when was the gorgonum's accuracy lowered??

okay, there's no reason to use the gorgonum heavy stubber any more

[cloud night]

The funniest part being
I know there's ogryn mains out there sick of getting kills taken and ammo stolen by speedrunners and the lot

Frag box could definitely be used out of pettiness to lag motherfuckers

[long wharf]

the achlys may not pierce as well, but it's better at keeping firing and killing than the gorgonum, easily

[proud frost]

how do you claim those again?

[vernal frost]

go to drops section on twitch and there should be a redirect to fs site somewhere

https://accounts.atoma.cloud/twitch-drops

dont forget to claim them cause they will disappear from your twitch acc

[deft stump]

I am shocked. The grenade every 20 sec stacks with the normal 60.

Much 'nades, very boom.

3 shouts is hilarious as well.

[stark crown]

The smite heavy node actually worth it now

Or is it still abysmal dog shit

[patent mango]

its funny

[clear heath]

i think i would take it on a few builds/weapons

[patent mango]

i dont think its as good as assail still on greatsword

[vernal frost]

its alright

but it scales with enemy hitmass

so

[patent mango]

but on illisi? might be peak

[vernal frost]

good for hitting poxwalkers

doe snothing to ragers

[stark crown]

I saw it still does really bad damage

However it does like what

[vernal frost]

https://streamable.com/khnsrj

[stark crown]

Actual electrocute

[clear heath]

honestly tempted to make a couple builds around it

[summer prairie]

oh they did keep everyone deranking part, getting to 40 with party finder is probably going to be challenging

[left basin]

charged strike still ass?

[clear heath]

scroll up to the most recent video posted here

[vernal frost]

yeah like 3 messages

[left basin]

what thefuck is taht

[summer prairie]

Emphatic Evasion now triggers on critting, not hitting anything, like old mettle

[ocean totem]

How’s the psyker changes?

[long wharf]

well that's handy

[clear heath]

???? wtf

[left basin]

mmmmm

[summer prairie]

or old perfect timing, whatever

[vernal frost]

big buffs across the board BUT

mettle now crashes the game and they broke dodge sliding

[ripe obsidian]

Well, tried new havoc. We got bullied by 2x daemonhost + 2x chaos lieutenants

[left basin]

i take it fart staff is now turbo good with

emph evasion

[spice flame]

what's up with dodge sliding ?

[left basin]

penetration of the ass is still ass

10%

[patent mango]

charged strike doesnt seem to actually proc malefic momentum

maybe it doesnt count as warp damage?

that kinda copes it lol

[jovial juniper]

This is the part where I would say git gud if this wasn't a situation

[vernal frost]

it is electric damage

like mauls

[sharp pike]

with new scriers does that mean that the stupid lightning build is even better

[marble crater]

Thank you for making me aware

[clear heath]

does it give you the nonwarp part of malefic at least?

or just nothing?

[patent mango]

uh

[ripe obsidian]

It was fine until then. The cultists summoning the DH spawned behind a DH natural spawn, so we couldn't reach it. Then 2 lieutenants spawned ~30 seconds apart.

[summer prairie]

we wiped twice on 31 with a 6000 true level team (and they were good)

[patent mango]

doesnt seem to give anything

[summer prairie]

mainly due to DH event spam but not entirely

[patent mango]

maybe charged strike si bugged lmfaooo

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/e401w4

[patent mango]

it'd be pretty good with malefic proccing

[vernal frost]

wow lmao

now do this in mortis with free crits

[summer prairie]

you can also do this with a melee weapon, so knife+SG

[clear heath]

they just keep buffing my autopistol build...

[summer prairie]

it works with mettle too

doesn't proc that much though https://streamable.com/3ul4h5

note toughness

[clear heath]

wtf

[patent mango]

keep doing that till u crash lmao

[clear heath]

psykanium doesn't crash from it i think

[patent mango]

oh fr

[clear heath]

i don't know what's different about actual games that would make it crash
weird bug

[patent mango]

actual games are server

[clear heath]

it's not like the server is crashing though right? It's just you

[patent mango]

how that relates i dunno

[granite gorge]

broke dodge sliding how?

[patent mango]

true true

[summer prairie]

pretty sure this nerfs mettle for purg though

[mental grail]

Every time I use scriers I get booted from the game

it's very annoying

[patent mango]

lmfao

mettle broke

[summer prairie]

kind of fun to proc mettle speedboost just swinging your knife though

[mental grail]

It's legit busted lmao

[mental grail]

Makes sense

[plucky perch]

did they break the disrupt destiny extender timer talent node again?

[hearty wolf]

I think that's kinda fine cos we're already there tho

[plucky perch]

or visualy broken only again?

[clear heath]

Are you?

[upper sun]

YO theres free cosmetics for watching the stream

time to take a nap

[ripe obsidian]

Link pls

[upper sun]

https://www.twitch.tv/fatsharkgames

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

[cloud night]

Least this drop.needs only 1 hour
Fucking CDPR with their 6-12 hr (i cant remember) for their NUSA set whrn Phantom liberty dropped

[patent mango]

i might use 25 disrupt stacks

lmao

[long wharf]

you'll lose them too quickly

[clear heath]

they made the stacks last longer

so maybe not

[long wharf]

what was the change?

I'm knee deep in the ogryn tree right now

[clear heath]

4->5

[long wharf]

hrm

[clear heath]

20% more duration

[ripe obsidian]

25%

[long wharf]

yeah

[clear heath]

huge

oh whoops

yeah 25%

anyways i might try it too

well, after they fix mettle

today is ogryn day

[mental grail]

If I crash again because of mettle I'm going to kms

[clear heath]

you will crash again

it won't end

[long wharf]

yeah, best to not use Mettle

and the psykward not crashing means it's definitely a server issue

the issue isn't in the Lua

[clear heath]

unfortunately most psyker builds are gonna end up with mettle

[long wharf]

yep

it's too good not to take

[clear heath]

I actually can't think of one build I have that doesn't use it

[hearty wolf]

10 games, don't mind a bit of progression.

Also let's you readjust to the new difficulty

[mental grail]

I'm cooked then lmao

All my shit has mettle

[gray zephyr]

how do they miss this during testing lmao

[clear heath]

implying they test psyker

funny joke

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[clear heath]

actually wait, what psyker build normally wouldn't go mettle?

[mental grail]

Any not relying on crits

[clear heath]

Flurry Rending Voidblast i guess

[dense flume]

oh did they fix quell canceling?

[ripe obsidian]

Fix as in remove? Yes

[dense flume]

well yeah lol

[clear heath]

yeah i'm counting 1 so far

[patent mango]

smite

[clear heath]

oh true

forgot ep smite spammers existed

erased them from my memory

[marble crater]

Let's all play EP smite until this is fixed

[deft stump]

Naw, reset to 30

[long wharf]

what a shitshow that'd turn into

[marble crater]

[summer prairie]

Enervating Threshold damage is very bad, not sure if it's working correctly

i guess it's damage over time, but not good

oh

the damage varies based on target or armor class maybe

[long wharf]

why is it so funny to slap enemies as an ogryn?

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/o530hz 125 x 6 or something

[long wharf]

just 🫲 🫱 all day

and they bleed from it

[marble crater]

Because everything ogryn is funny by default

[granite gorge]

Somehow I'm getting my venting shriek back wayyy faster than before

and not by killing elites

[cloud night]

No

[granite gorge]

(Me currently playing EP smite and have fun) Yeah screw those guys

[deft stump]

Because it is? It's why Bully club gud.

[plucky flax]

Rending trauma

[marble crater]

[mental grail]

I'm gonna dust that shit off like spongbob pulling out ol reliable

I like mortis trials, idk

[granite gorge]

anyone try assail yet?

[mental grail]

then again

[mental grail]

I was a firefight slop enjoyer back during halo reach

[mental grail]

Yeah

[granite gorge]

how is it? feel samsies?

[mental grail]

it feels like release assail

especially during mortis

[cloud night]

2 more hours of work, fuckin A
Least the day went fast ig

[mighty olive]

What's going on with Mettle? Just waking up xD

[mental grail]

Crashes you to desktop

[marble crater]

Halo ODST firefight for me

[granite gorge]

nice, i just dont wanna drop psykenetic aura D:

to get it

[marble crater]

Crashes the game if you crit too much

[cloud night]

The only reason ill be running smite for that buffed lightning effect on heavy

https://streamable.com/khnsrj

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[mental grail]

using accatran is so funny because the effect is practically instant when you hit a weakspot

[mighty olive]

Does it crash others? I didn't crash early this morning after patch but people on my team did xD

[mental grail]

No

I got booted from the same game four fucking times

other people were still there

😭

[marble crater]

Only the psyker I think, bad enough though

[sturdy reef]

wait

WAIT

is POTS working now?

[marble crater]

Yes

[sturdy reef]

holy shit

[marble crater]

It's in the patch notes

[sturdy reef]

My SG inferno meme build

is alive

ALIVE

[plucky flax]

Good meme

[sturdy reef]

it worked before

but now with POTS

game changer'

[granite gorge]

pots?

[sturdy reef]

penetration of the soul

maybe its time for sg inferno in havok now that enemy shooting isnt so oppressive

[granite gorge]

^

im still rolling for a 60 quell inferno staff

err, warp resist

[summer prairie]

Bubble still super good for specials

[sturdy reef]

yeah 100% it is

but now it isnt mandatory

[marble crater]

Inferno with POTS?

[sturdy reef]

yes

because it affects SB

[marble crater]

Should be fun and help with the enraged elites modifier

[sturdy reef]

yeah quell cancelling for inferno lmb is dead lmao

[marble crater]

I guess it won't work if another psyker applied soulblaze first? Like blaze away

[sturdy reef]

it should work for your sb stacks

so if you override another psykers

it will apply

as for blaze away, thats just the direct damage iirc

[marble crater]

Time for some build adjustments

[cloud night]

Ok the uzi
I mean tec 9
Fucking autopistol doesnt look so bad

Now

[raven mountain]

They boosted the finesse bonus a ton.

Like 0.9 to 1.5

[cloud night]

Goddamn

[raven mountain]

I haven't tested it, but I'm not sure how the ramping fire rate will feel.

[sturdy reef]

@analog agate

quell cancelling is slightly faster for VB RMB.

also discord embed 😦

[long wharf]

oh man, the bully club is so much fun now

[marble crater]

Twitch drop?

[late sphinx]

yes

[jovial juniper]

Because slap got buffed iirc

[long wharf]

eh, I collected it but I'll never use it

[sturdy reef]

bro

[long wharf]

the slap procs heavy hitter

[sturdy reef]

does discord just hate MKV

but anyway

[marble crater]

[long wharf]

so with the bully club, I just light-light-slap repeat

[long wharf]

you don't want to use mkv anyways

use an online video service that's free, like streamable

[marble crater]

Skin looks good, colors are not my taste unfortunately, I will still get it though

[sturdy reef]

LOL wtf is up with the audio

[long wharf]

cut down on video filesize by not recording audio

[sturdy reef]

w/e, take the haggardness

[long wharf]

I just finished a hard carry through a hi-int shock troop heresy

it was like herding cats, like the other players had never played the game before

[marble crater]

That's what you get for playing heresy

[long wharf]

on a melee ogryn

it felt really solid

with the bully club, not shield

just bash bash slap slap

[marble crater]

I only played one round and was not happy with the build I made

Ogryn book doesn't seem to be updated yet

[analog agate]

👍 So more of a try hard thing now over being super useful.

[sturdy reef]

ya

it helps with quell management tho

since you have to quell a tiny bit

[analog agate]

Good thing I moved onto weapon swap canceling

[sturdy reef]

no ty lol

I hate swap cancelling

[spice flame]

VineBoom.mp4

[raven mountain]

You qq aren't qq used qq to qq it qq from qq Vermintide?

I only really weapon swap cancel for combat shotguns and bleed fgs.

[marble crater]

I think I just had a stroke

[sturdy reef]

i never likeds it in vt2

I always block cancelled usually

[raven mountain]

It was a bit much. But I kept it in the toolbox. Kinda like manual quell cancel. Sometimes you just wanted that burst of speed.

[long wharf]

I don't like games that lock you into lengthy animations, but at the same time, swapping weapons or blocking to get around an attack taking as long as it should doesn't sit well with me, as a programmer

[raven mountain]

They could do things to block it. Longer swaps, less responsive double swaps, whatever.

[granite gorge]

Question, on the balze force great sword special attack - does it do more damage if you hold m1 then release? (full) or can you just click it for the same damage

[raven mountain]

I believe it's more.

[long wharf]

my approach would be to have each attack track how long it's supposed to be animating for

and if the player switches back to an attack that's not done, continue the animation to where it would be if they hadn't switched off

[prime elk]

damage on the special is determined by how many bars you have filled

[long wharf]

with no credit for partial bars

[granite gorge]

gotcha, so no point to hold down left click

[raven mountain]

I tested it loosely once, and there seemed to be more damage on held m1, but I wasn't doing any real controlled testing. Just throwing a couple charged ones at the Crusher.

Plenty of room for error with buffs.

[long wharf]

no, there's no bonus melee damage from the charge bar for the FSG

that bar is strictly for empowering the special attack

[granite gorge]

can you share your trauma staff build? 🙂

[prime elk]

nah it's strictly based on the bars

(and any buffs ofc)

but the base damage is from the bars

[raven mountain]

Then it was likely buffs doing the difference.

Like I said, not real testing, just a couple of throws.

[long wharf]

all that said, I'd make a change to the FSG and its charging mechanic

[raven mountain]

How about the actual melee hit on the activation? Like hitting with the sword on the throw? Is that empowered in any way? Seems like it cleaves super nicely and kills consistently, even with 0 charge.

[long wharf]

I'd rather the psyker be able to peril dump into the sword to charge it

[prime elk]

that'd be a nerf to gunkers

[granite gorge]

the block+push M1 hold is a nasty stab

[prime elk]

and be too good for staffkers

[long wharf]

like, instead of having to kill to charge, when you activate the special, it quells your peril into the charge area

I don't care about gunkers

[prime elk]

your loss