People ask for new class? Best we can do is rework the same classes over and over 
#psyker-class
plucky flax
plucky flax
Yay plant!
strong gulch
🪴
plucky flax
My mum has quite the green thumb ever since covid.
We have vegetable to eat during summer 
strong gulch
The houseplant and gardening community expploded when covid hit. Prices of plants went wild.
plucky flax
Yeah nothing to do but gardening.
strong gulch
also ya summer eats
plucky flax
And DIY stuff
eager token
do i need to do my havoc 40 before the update again
analog agate
Maels spicy today
plucky flax
Running got huge too since in the UK you were allowed to go outside for physical activities.
Why big sword with surge?
eager token
do i need to do my havoc 40 before the update again
guess that answers my question 
strong gulch
Big sword do everything
clear heath
big sword with surge is fun
plucky flax
4 dodges suck when you need melee weapon to kite 
clear heath
just time the dodges better
plucky flax
Okay I am not that good 
strong gulch
I trust Json with big sword.
clear heath
could also just stun them with the staff
plucky flax
Slide straight forward or backward against trapper's net 
strong gulch
If you don't dodge, the game gives up on you.
strong gulch
Slide straight forward or backward against trapper's net <:Kek:84644227683359132...
Slide right into mutant.
plucky flax
indigo basalt
just started playing today, but how do i go about getting a staff? is it just through leveling?
clear heath
unlocks after a few levels and you'll be able to find it in the store once you're high enough
strong gulch
Yeah, the first staff you unlock is the worst at low level and low stat.
After you get some points, assail is your leveling friend.
cloud night
You won't really enjoy it
Thats a fucking lie, I've used a staff by around 21-22 and faired fine
clear heath
just use whatever you want
personally i think telling someone what to do at the start of a game is the fastest way to get someone to quit
strong gulch
21 is different than like 10
or whenever voidblast unlocks without the proper nodes
but also do what you want
marble crater
Yeah, the first staff you unlock is the worst at low level and low stat.
Darktide moment
Inferno should be the first staff
clear heath
but giving the staves in the worst order possible gives the feeling of progression!
marble crater
EA moment
strong gulch
I've used staff every time when leveling psyker. But that was different circumstances. 2 were from before patch 13 and 1 was with max mastery already.
clear heath
i think using dogshit at the start of the game is a rite of passage
wouldn't ruin that for anyone
marble crater
Emperor forbid we make the start of the game better to get new players 
upper sun
🚬
i tried to talk about the levelling process on the forum and they ate me alive
we need better tutorials and double mat/xp weekends NOW
not tomorrow NOW
clear heath
does this game really need double exp?
analog agate
Faster leveling would do a lot to inject new players
clear heath
people are barely ready for level 30 content when they get there
analog agate
Yes
upper sun
it takes ~80 hours to level every class to 30
wise geode
does anyone else have 4 points to spend on the electrokinetic staff in mastery but there's nothing to spend it on?
upper sun
yeah
marble crater
What we need is a lights out event with awesome cosmetics, so everyone is forced to do it
upper sun
its normal known bug
strong gulch
we need better tutorials and double mat/xp weekends NOW
I recently redid the psyk tutorial and using shriek to save yourself from exploding wasn't even mentioned.
strong gulch
does anyone else have 4 points to spend on the electrokinetic staff in mastery b...
yes
wise geode
glad it's not just me
marble crater
Maybe the 4 points will be fixed tomorrow! Surely?! Right?
clear heath
never
upper sun
I recently redid the psyk tutorial and using shriek to save yourself from explod...
they need to add all the psykanium and danger zone mods to the tutorial
strong gulch
Maybe the 4 points will be fixed tomorrow! Surely?! Right?
along with the +3 stam 400 curios
analog agate
This game kinda sucks before you have your full tree filled out
clear heath
the 4 points will be bugged forever
upper sun
This game kinda sucks before you have your full tree filled out
(and after )
marble crater
along with the +3 stam 400 curios
Okay that's asking a bit much now
wise geode
Maybe the 4 points will be fixed tomorrow! Surely?! Right?
I keep hoping they'll add some cool new blessing. something to make up for the fact that surge does not affect the charged attack for the electro
upper sun
or are they both exactly 3?
marble crater
does a 430 stamina curio give more stamina than a 410?
I think you should go and test this
upper sun
no
marble crater
Yes
strong gulch
does a 430 stamina curio give more stamina than a 410?
no
marble crater
Do something for the community, not just help with MM every day
marble crater
fathom adder
I keep hoping they'll add some cool new blessing. something to make up for the f...
Fatshark cannot come up with enough good blessings to fill existing pools
fathom adder
Weapon traits since forever have been:
- Literal mechanical game changer
- Big dumb stat boost
3-n) Dogshit filler
plucky flax
Nice gif
marble crater
Fatshark cannot come up with enough good blessings to fill existing pools
Blazing Spirit for EK? 
apply Soulblaze on enemies around the target
wise geode
thank you discord
marble crater
thank you discord
Need red role
plucky flax
verbal thistle
no pics or gifds
clear heath
I think someone datamined an unused blessing for EK at some point and iirc it was just extra targets on rmb
marble crater
clear heath
dunno if that'll ever get used
plucky flax
We must bully grey name.
fathom adder
doubt.png
marble crater
I think someone datamined an unused blessing for EK at some point and iirc it wa...
So my KF could trigger on more targets? Hmmm
clear heath
I don't think it'd be taken over flurry/nexus if that ends up being what it is
fathom adder
All the work they did over the years to balance VT2, improving classes and talents and weapons and nerfing the outliers, and every weapon trait other than Swift Slaying is niche-at-best, if not outright shit
marble crater
I have to play heresy because there is no other mission with lights out, gas or vent purge 
wooden sand
I have to play heresy because there is no other mission with lights out, gas or ...
Play Heresy like a noob
Then it becomes harder
OR better yet
Play with the worse team ever
strong gulch
T4 can be super cursed
autumn lark
indigo basalt
also im assuming you get more xp for higher difficulties
wise geode
i don't have any more options int he channels and roles section and i'm still grey
cosmic sigil
Thats a fucking lie, I've used a staff by around 21-22 and faired fine
It's called an opinion. 20 is okayish but it's not really the most pleasing.
But hey, you do you.
strong gulch
i don't have any more options int he channels and roles section and i'm still gr...
Just keep chatting
wise geode
oh. so it's an activity thing
strong gulch
ye
cosmic sigil
also im assuming you get more xp for higher difficulties
And with curios perks too
strong gulch
I guess oggy leveling begins soon.
marble crater
lost
strong gulch
lmao
marble crater
I guess oggy leveling begins soon.
I can level you once
strong gulch
Or maybe the psyker who just joined with clutch
is mission still up?
marble crater
No, we failed the emperor
strong gulch
feck
marble crater
Okay I could do two missions before going off
strong gulch
I can join
marble crater
Bots are useless
strong gulch
wispy bay
Can somebody help me with some penance?
upper sun
what penance
upper sun
🤔 if you dont have it by thursday im down
wispy bay
ok
strong gulch
A mutant threw me at the top of a ladder and my character auto grabbed it with a bunch of enemies hitting shooting at me. I was stuck for a moment.
Just twitching on the top rung.
marble crater
upper sun
give players block while climbing
strong gulch
I forgot to switch to ogryn.
marble crater
Barrel also almost got a triple kill
strong gulch
oh no. silo cluster
marble crater
strong gulch
Barrel also almost got a triple kill
Yeah it did. Idk who set it off.
strong gulch
I was staff bonking a guy while @marble crater watched.
strong gulch
scab bruiser taking a lifetime to bonk
marble crater
strong gulch
lmao
radiant frigate
that's fucking savage
strong gulch
I had been doing that before you even shrieked at the horde.
marble crater
Sadly I didn't clip the barrel moment from the other game, looked nice from my view, because I saw how everyone was in range, then everyone realized they were in range and tried to get away and then boom
strong gulch
The magic that doesn't get clipped.
Like the zealot camping the door with a bunch of specials behind it including bursters.
I knew it was gonna be a show
marble crater
I clipped the zealot pushing the boss off the ledge though
strong gulch
hehehehe nice
Also, I agro the DH. 😭
I wasn't sure if shriek would make it angy enough to float. I knew if someone woke it up, I'd have to be the one to block.
strong gulch
I suppose.
marble crater
After that a big shitshow started
strong gulch
I don't remember. What hapened?
marble crater
Bunch of elites and then the barrel moment
marble crater
strong gulch
Can somebody help me with some penance?
I don't think I have those either. I can try to fill a spot.
I mean with clad too
wispy bay
We can do the vent one duo
cloud night
Vent purge 🤮
sacred crane
got kicked from auric damnation match even tho i was top scorin with trauma staff
guh why do they hate us psykers
verbal thistle
kick psykers in every lobby
analog agate
Either they wanted a friend to play or that isn’t the whole story.
lone wing
got kicked from auric damnation match even tho i was top scorin with trauma staf...
trauma staff ruins the game for everyone else in the lobby
analog agate
So does killing enemies. Less enemies for the other guys to kill…
sacred crane
trauma staff ruins the game for everyone else in the lobby
but how, i was top scorin and had to rescue two of them early in the match
lone wing
trying to hit something and entire rooms.explodes and falls over
sacred crane
i dunno what any of them were saying, they all spoke some kind of middle eastern language'
analog agate
They were probably trying to get a friend in
undone zenith
trying to hit something and entire rooms.explodes and falls over
damn I gotta play more psyker I didn’t know it was that bad
verbal thistle
wait till you see smite
sacred crane
trauma is amazing at staggering shit like crushers and bulwarks
verbal thistle
until they tumble down at your feet and now cant dodge
sacred crane
They were probably trying to get a friend in
i mean maybe, all three spoke the same language and i had no clue what they were saying
verbal thistle
run melee-ker with scriers
no soulblaze grey shotgun melee psyker
lone wing
wait till you see smite
analog agate
i mean maybe, all three spoke the same language and i had no clue what they were...
Anecdotally, I have 1200-1300 purely on VB staff. Never been kicked. So yeah, it’s possible I just never ran into assholes. But people don’t treat VB like smite. They were probably trying to do something (penance) or friend
lone wing
no soulblaze grey shotgun melee psyker
i might do that
did you power the shotgun or just a random roll?
lone wing
the ammo dump
lone wing
ye
rich spindle
no soulblaze grey shotgun melee psyker
Wat melee u ran
verbal thistle
@rich spindle
rich spindle
Ah obscurus
Fire
Honestly I run superiority over uncanny with obscurus, if I have dd lol
Probably bad choice but we
ornate hamlet
i dunno what any of them were saying, they all spoke some kind of middle eastern...
Was one of them called Mrs?
sacred crane
Was one of them called Mrs?
naw
ornate hamlet
I'm thinking of a different trio then.
dry ivy
forgot to post it here
dense flume
I assume Anticipation just increases the dodge window yeah? My slides aren't gonna last longer or anything silly?
verbal thistle
forgot to post it here
Yeah, thats what I would have did
posted before but still funny
wind spruce
Skill issue
dry ivy
noob
worthy wasp
I wish there was a spear weapon
prime elk
if you squint a lot, fgs could be a spear
charred cipher
my friend is playin ga psycker shes new, this is happpening can someontell me how to fix it?
thats the shield
restive depot
my friend is playin ga psycker shes new, this is happpening can someontell me ho...
Clearly she’s more in-tune with the warp than protocol
deft stump
my friend is playin ga psycker shes new, this is happpening can someontell me ho...
AMD?
Try turning her AMD anti-lag off. May or may not work though.
plucky flax
AMD GPU bad
deft stump
AMD GPU bad
Last I saw, you AMD as well.
deft stump
They have better cpu but their gpu suck.
I guess.
plucky flax
Their only decent gpu is the 7900xtx. They need to make a high end gpu again to at least be on par with 5080 and undercut it.
cloud night
...Mhm right makes total fuckin sense
verbal thistle
Makes total sense
deft stump
Their only decent gpu is the 7900xtx. They need to make a high end gpu again to ...
To be fair, they have horrible naming schemes. I can't even tell which is GPU and which is CPU.
verbal thistle
You stood behind your teammate that was getting shot by a trapper
Net hotbox is only the center so the edges of the net can go through walls
plucky flax
To be fair, they have horrible naming schemes. I can't even tell which is GPU an...
Kinda yeah. Their latest gpu and cpu are both 90s series 
deft stump
Kinda yeah. Their latest gpu and cpu are both 90s series <a:nooooo:9711022594904...
They need to at least start them off with something to seperate them.
verbal thistle
Get into a good habit of not being next to your teammates so that doesn't happen to them
verbal thistle
But stagger/killing the trapper before the net hits anything will remove it
verbal thistle
Trapper shoots, kill trapper, net disappears
deft stump
I can't shoot back or anything.
verbal thistle
(if it's not already got someone)
cloud night
But stagger/killing the trapper before the net hits anything will remove it
Noted for future reference
plucky flax
Ogryn will never be trapped again
No more body block (unless it's against ogryns) 
But actually sometimes I panic and dodge into the wall so I get trapped Xd
rich spindle
Dodging into crates I forgot about gets me often
strong gulch
But stagger/killing the trapper before the net hits anything will remove it
*should
*most of the time
cloud night
They just fly through walls with my ping and lag.
I'd be lying if I said that hasnt happened
Both times being on a fucking auric mael
verbal thistle
*should
*most of the time
That was assuming lag won't fuck with it
Since lag trumps all
strong gulch
Since lag trumps all
So true 😭
verbal thistle
Doesn't peril change knock back?
Remember something related to that talked about
But don't remember
strong gulch
Yes, but it was high enough to stagger a trapper.
You need really high peril to stagger a reaper, but not much for a trapper.
There's so many little things to remember. I forget things all of the time.
strong gulch
Always needing to fire up the game to make sure
strong gulch
Is it based on the fire stacks?
No. You can do it without any talent points.
verbal thistle
Okay, I see
strong gulch
Distance plays a role as well, but 7m is plenty close
verbal thistle
I'll look into it when I wake up. But yeah lag ruins everything
Especially ranged interactions
verbal thistle
Thanks, have a good one
deft stump
I'd be lying if I said that hasnt happened
Both times being on a fucking auric ...
Heh.
strong gulch
Here's a vid in the meat grinder with no talent points, 0% peril, and trapper farther away getting staggered. Meat grinder and live missions don't always line up, but still.
In the "cheating trapper" clip, purg/ inferno LMB should have staggered the trapper too, though the timing might have been too tight for that one.
So far I tally it as just a FS moment.
autumn smelt
more food for thought when mortis trials drops
who needs purgatus
just use a shotgun
plucky flax
It actually gives free ammo
deft stump
first upgrade for the death dealer archetype is ranged crits dont cost ammo
So no shocktrooper recon. What do you spend that free talent point now?
autumn smelt
So no shocktrooper recon. What do you spend that free talent point now?
Newly buffed catch a breath
Or you skip death dealer and take pyrokinetic cuz infernus deathdealer
deft stump
Newly buffed catch a breath
Uhh, if you run survivalist, you already have it lmao.
idle plover
wait what gives that thing free ammo
upbeat kestrel
what thing
dull scroll
the revolver, it's supposed to be a buff from the game mode itself
it's almost like a roguelike now
autumn smelt
wait what gives that thing free ammo
2 mortis trial buffs
crits dont consume ammo
30% crit for first 25% of mag
deft stump
it's almost like a roguelike now
Which will annoy if you are generally very unlucky with those. Everyone gets good rolls, I get +hp on a glass cannon who wants more damage.
So I fall off anyway cos everyone gets better at stuff and I'm just glare no damage 2 hits ded glass.
idle plover
glass cannon gets reinforced glass
deft stump
glass cannon gets reinforced glass
Still die in 2 hits.
Vs in 1.
At that point I literally did nothing but chip damage.
idle plover
reaching 200 toughness with psyker
deft stump
They are all doing actual damage and can AFK lifesteal.
deft stump
Why I sometimes hate roguelike with others.
idle plover
is really annoys me the two 17% toughness curios i have are both on psykers
deft stump
I always roll 1s.
idle plover
i really want one on vet and zealot too
deft stump
is really annoys me the two 17% toughness curios i have are both on psykers
Try 7 +3 stam on psyker and nothing else.
idle plover
i think i do have 5 of them
but at least i got them on zealot and vet too
my vet has 3 21% hp curios
deft stump
My psyker is literally, can block everything. If it pierces, blep.
upbeat kestrel
my vet has 3 21% hp curios
would like it for oggy
idle plover
my ogryn has the worst of them
but thats mostly because i dont play ogryn much
other than occasional ogrynheimer with rumbler or full machine gun funtime
jovial juniper
more food for thought when mortis trials drops
I got another 37 shells inside this double barrel
worthy wasp
I legitimately hate smykers
idle plover
i dont as long as they don't keep dying after they max out peril afterwards
plucky flax
They make the game too easy
idle plover
meh i don' t mind helping hand whene director spawns thousand fucking ragers
deft stump
meh i don' t mind helping hand whene director spawns *thousand fucking ragers*
Only ragers? Try throwing in stealth maulers in the dookshow.
idle plover
i do like my scriers gaze greatsword 2 tapping crushers
verbal thistle
Wait till you see 1 taps
deft stump
i do like my scriers gaze greatsword 2 tapping crushers
I mean, it 3 taps on a pure ranged staff build.
idle plover
i mean 1 tap when its crit
i am very much gun psyker player
but i have one build slot reserved whenever i want to try staffs
tiny river
@autumn smelt Whats that build you’re using in your Mortis Trial Psyker vid?
cosmic sigil
the simple man build with the agrivolver iirc
tiny river
the simple man build with the agrivolver iirc
Got a link?
cosmic sigil
worthy wasp
They need to remove smite from the game
tiny river
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e477e30-624d-48a3-b54a-8097ca8a4145/si...
Much obliged sibling
worthy wasp
9/10 aurics have some smyker that thinks they are helping by spamming smite
worthy wasp
It pushes me away from the game tbqh, like people legitimately are getting away with not learning basic game mechanics and are actively making the gameplay experience of others worse, and on top of that they feel as tho they are contributing by doing so
uncut leaf
It may be too strong and unfun but it do go brr
plucky flax
Wait 'til you see the legendary 4 smikers h40 Xd
worthy wasp
Its not strong is the thing
tiny river
Rather a smyker than a dead gunker
@icy breach
worthy wasp
Its just braindead and incredibly easy to do
plucky flax
tiny river
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JpfrhMD3ww
Palpatine looking ass strike team
plucky flax
Sith gaming
uncut leaf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JpfrhMD3ww
Hmm yes very weak ability
Tanner was right it’s so bad it disables difficulty in the video game
Unusable smh
cosmic sigil
I am so glad Tanner made his point after everyone was agreeing on that
validation by a figure of authority always feels good
🫃
idle plover
tanner is just crazy goblin that haunts youtube
tiny river
Only person I listen to is my beloved
idle plover
jovial juniper
validation by a figure of authority always feels good
plucky flax
Tanner is the best vet and psyker player
idle plover
not sure if inferno staff is that much diffirent from smykers
marble crater
summer prairie
now
deft stump
<@341264830273028099>
He runs both at the same time.
stark notch
Does psyker have any major changes in the patch that just went live?
summer prairie
some node buffs, SG quells 50% peril and DD base line is 5s and it refreshes upon attacking a boss
stark notch
some node buffs, SG quells 50% peril and DD base line is 5s and it refreshes upo...
Nice, thank you
glacial vapor
some node buffs, SG quells 50% peril and DD base line is 5s and it refreshes upo...
So I don't have to worry about activating scriers at 90% peril anymore? (I might be stupid)
summer prairie
yes
cosmic sigil
i activate sg around 90 to benefit from warp unbound 😄
summer prairie
you can also activate it to prevent explosion
cosmic sigil
it saved me so many times
stark notch
you can also activate it to prevent explosion
Wait, does it work like venting now?
summer prairie
supposedly
cosmic sigil
allegedly
stark notch
Time to test
wanton fossil
They need to remove smite from the game
You spelled "buff" wrong ^^
deft stump
Vent needs buff now.
clear heath
they doubled crack of bone???
clear heath
i don't think most of the gunpsykee buffs were needed but okay
wait what is this about mettle crashing?
what
summer prairie
I guess it will probably be rare
clear heath
30 crits without dropping mettle stacks and the game fucking crashes?
marble crater
Psyker too powerful
summer prairie
Don't use recon las until the hotfix later this week
drifting steeple
Is the update out yet
Born to play darktide forced to exercise
Literally just got the notification
FUARK
marble crater
Smh
drifting steeple
I'm stuck here for another two hours
summer prairie
Empyric Shock working with purg might be interesting
vernal frost
“Assail, while not terrible, is lacking behind its two competitors of Blitz Abilities. We’re reducing the attack time a small amount to lessen the risk of using it slightly, and increasing its damage.”
clear heath
fatshark thinks gunspyker was absolute garbage and felt the need to buff everything remotely related to it
summer prairie
25% toughness over 2.5s from DD as a baseline marked kill is pretty good
clear heath
too bad it'll crash the game now
vernal frost
psyker now can utilize the new neuralink integration to think about getting toughness for it to start regenerating
summer prairie
so yeah they quadrupled Charged Strike damage
it's probably good with knife heavies or something
for non-havoc horde
clear heath
charged strike was so bad that a quadruple buff is probably justified
idk what i'd use it on still
clear heath
I think I just don't spam heavies enough for it to make sense
summer prairie
I don't know what the damage adds up to, but it sounds very significant for something that's either very fast or has very high cleave
clear heath
so like, heavy sword but no one builds HS on psyker
high cleave heavies that aren't slow
drifting steeple
What's heavy sword
vernal frost
illisi?
drifting steeple
vernal frost
idk what else tbh
drifting steeple
Never heard of her
summer prairie
so assail is 20% faster and does 12.5% more damage. Maybe not quite that fast due to some animations not being included in the attack time
vernal frost
im 90% sure it does
cause ogryn does
Some specific attacks on several weapons could sometimes completely ignore raised Bulwark shields, particularly when performed extremely close to the enemy.
ah fuck
no more crusher pa
drifting steeple
Before I read it have they fixed the bugged nodes
vernal frost
nvm they didnt nerf crusher pa
summer prairie
you can just melt bosses with purg lmb now
broken quail
Patch notes saying assail is lacking? Sure, sure
cosmic sigil
assail bad
summer prairie
right BB way better, keep buffing assail
summer prairie
Empyric shock is 34% multiplicative damage buff and it works with purg lmb
clear heath
they gotta be judging based on havoc pickrate if they think that assail needed major buffs
clear heath
people pathing for psykinetic aura making assail sound like garbage
vernal frost
cause they buffed scriers
torn kernel
THEY BUFFED THE ENTIRE RIGHT SIDE 
vernal frost
fatshark is psychotic
drifting steeple
Seems they have
clear heath
gunpsyker is gonna be insane
broken quail
Scrier buff seems nice, the 50% instant quell will make it more usable when I'm always at high peril for the damage at high peril buff
clear heath
bro i was running autopistol gunpsyker last patch
i'll be eating good (until i crash)
deft stump
gunpsyker is gonna be insane
You mean I can run my funny assail only build?
torn kernel
faster assail weaving
clear heath
enclavum in havoc!
marble crater
Hab Dreyko
vernal frost
no more sycorax
clear heath
Hab Dreyko <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
oh god wtf
vernal frost
no more free 40s
summer prairie
torn kernel
oh no why is power matrix there
deft stump
oh god wtf
You get 2+ bosses at escape and fail.
summer prairie
broken quail
Charged strike damage is 64 now, was charged strike damage reduced on cleave? If not it might be useable on heavy sword or something
torn kernel
still no peril rending 😔
summer prairie
it did the same damage to all targets hit
vernal frost
still no peril rending 😔
but they fixed it
i mean
they said they did
idk if they did
marble crater
They did, trust
torn kernel
oh wait i completely skimmed past that lmao
summer prairie
They don't mention everyone losing an attempt in Havoc, so that was probably rolled back
vernal frost
good to hear
torn kernel
i'm gonna try and see how many times i can crash from that mettle thing in a single mission tonight
vernal frost
im just hoping that by crash they actually mean aborting the mission altogether
compact cargo
Fellow spark heads
We still have the staff funny
marble crater
You are not a psyker 
clear heath
any mods confirmed broken yet?
cosmic sigil
Fellow spark heads
We still have the staff funny
the diddy
compact cargo
You are not a psyker <:point:1297574874763497612>
I am big psyker!
torn kernel
NOT NUMERIC UI 
compact cargo
Zappy staff still has point things
marble crater
compact cargo
summer prairie
marble crater
Mod users in shambles
torn kernel
I should probably join the modding discord sometime
drifting steeple
Brain burst buff when
torn kernel
The only one i really miss is numeric ui tbh
summer prairie
They are first trying to buff assail to brainburst levels
flint dock
Not sure which one is making game crash every time I load in
drifting steeple
Mod users in shambles
Me rn
drifting steeple
The only one i really miss is numeric ui tbh
Yea same
torn kernel
Assail switch speed buff pls 🙏
summer prairie
numeric UI fix is probably trivial
marble crater
Updating the version of the game in the mod file?
flint dock
[Script Error]: scripts/managers/ui/ui_hud.lua:230: attempt to index local 'class' (a boolean value)
I don't even know what it means
marble crater
Maybe because of the new ogryn tree?
summer prairie
probably numeric ui
marble crater
Entire right side, yea
torn kernel
Yes
jovial juniper
💀
torn kernel
Yeah assail still sucks btw it's fuckin useless
TOTALLY needs more buffs
Can we reduce the peril cost as well
sinful tapir
Yes I agree 
marble crater
The only reason more people are not using assail is that it locks you out of psy aura
But yes, buff it more
flint dock
Even turning off Numeric UI would not help
summer prairie
what else do you have, show crit chance?
torn kernel
CustomHUD probably?
jovial juniper
Also Crack of Bone 
torn kernel
The only reason more people are not using assail is that it locks you out of psy...
Obviously the only way to fix this is to give assail CDR on kill 
worthy wasp
Holy hell, yes. Death to the braindead smykers
flint dock
what else do you have, show crit chance?
I am gonna try that as well
tough obsidian
Holy hell, yes. Death to the braindead smykers
:/
deft stump
You are not a psyker <:point:1297574874763497612>
-# But But But... What am I then?
marble crater
You? You are a gremlin
flint dock
Still crashed. Guess I'll sit back for a day or 2
worthy wasp
I hope this doesn't lead to "support ogryn" spam, the support "smykers" are already a cancer to the community
torn kernel
At least taunt doesn't pause the entire game
marble crater
Sorry, I will spam support ogryn whenever I play it
deft stump
You? You are a gremlin
-# Yes but... still.
torn kernel
And you actually need proper positioning w ogryn
tough obsidian
if theyre gonna nerf smite like this then i need better telekinesis options man...
this shit sucks so far
the assail 'buff' doesnt really feel noticable imo
marble crater
What is the smite nerf?
tough obsidian
this apparently if im going based off this guys reaction
if it is then that blows
cosmic sigil
no
jovial juniper
I swear FS has the funniest bugs
torn kernel
That's only on havoc lmao
latent hill
Is that why I’ve been crashing?
torn kernel
And it's not even a smite nerf it hits voc & book as well
tough obsidian
t r a g i c
marble crater
If enraged elites are healed above 50%, do they lose their buff? Healing and enraged elites sounds like a very bad time, if you are not careful
torn kernel
Just kill shit faster smh smh
deft stump
>Scrier's quells 50% now
Where vent buff?
young falcon
Yo crack of bone buffed too
young falcon
Where vent buff?
Scriers new vent
Soon we're gonna have questions like "how do I get peril"
torn kernel
BCOB buff might actually be a nerf 
young falcon
Gamble strikes again
young falcon
BCOB buff might actually be a nerf <:Thunk:778245934966112256>
Just scriers and assail more
torn kernel
True lmao
still valve
Scrier's Gaze
“Reducing the Peril Generation to make it a bit easier to access the top end power of Scrier’s Gaze. We’re also adding a 50% Peril Quell on activation, to help you in case of overcharge, and to give you more space to extend its duration.”
Peril Ramp Curve reduced (33%).
Quell 50% on Activation.
oh my god
chat are we seeing this
still valve
ESPECIALLY TO SCRIERS GAZE OH MY GOD
like Assail is understandable, even if the buff isnt really gonna do anything
worthy wasp
Even more of a reason to hate smykers
still valve
Well, it was fun using venting shriek but I think gaze is now too good to ignore
worthy wasp
Yeah
still valve
I mean they nerfed the ranged enemys so I mean
torn kernel
but but muh sb shriek
still valve
might just be scriers end of discussion
marble crater
Shriek wasn't nerfed and is just as strong as before, why would you not pick it anymore? It's a different playstyle
jovial juniper
Yeah, Psykers really didnt need buffs
Psyker not strong enough to stop Horus
Plz buff
still valve
also the 1% nerf to Psykinetic's Aura was really funny
marble crater
Horus did nothing wrong, why stop him
still valve
Shriek wasn't nerfed and is just as strong as before, why would you not pick it ...
I know it wasnt nerfed just gaze is now even better
it was already better in general
worthy wasp
also the 1% nerf to Psykinetic's Aura was really funny
Psy Aura is the reason why ppl dont take Assail
Small buff to assail + small nerf to aura = maybe ppl use assail now?
More efficient pathing to the melee nodes and scriers
still valve
Aura could be literally 1% and it would still be one of the best passives in the game
worthy wasp
Agree 100%
That said... they buffed the hell out of the right side of the tree
Literally the whole right side
Thatd free up quite a few points by dropping aura
still valve
I would spend 3 points to get aura ion care
unless they rework it, its gonna be too good to pass up no matter what they do
onyx sentinel
are there new psyker things in the patch notes?
still valve
are there new psyker things in the patch notes?
All buffs and one small nerf
onyx sentinel
holy shit I've never seen them present a patch this way before
latent hill
All buffs and one small nerf
you mean the psykinetic's aura?
still valve
you mean the psykinetic's aura?
yeah the 1% nerf
latent hill
I figured. Not bad all things considered.
onyx sentinel
dlss4 is yuge
worthy wasp
How was DS not touched
latent hill
DS?
latent hill
Ehh, I mean the venting shriek and shield were steady as is.
worthy wasp
Like, Psyker was already arguably the best class in the game
young falcon
squishy
onyx sentinel
can scrier's cancel peril blow up animation now or am I reading that wrong
still valve
They didnt need to touch psyker (other than reworking aura)
still valve
can scrier's cancel peril blow up animation now or am I reading that wrong
yeah it can
worthy wasp
P sure the changes make Psyker the inarguable best class now
still valve
Well idk about inarguable
latent hill
They didnt need to touch psyker (other than reworking aura)
didn't they also rework the staves?
still valve
didn't they also rework the staves?
I dont think they touched any weapons did they?
onyx sentinel
idk how I feel about crack of bone quelling twice as much
worthy wasp
They nerfed quell canceling
still valve
Not a big loss
marble crater
whatever that was...
Cancel animations by quelling to attack more for higher dps
worthy wasp
It nerfed surge staff left click build to the ground
young falcon
idk how I feel about crack of bone quelling twice as much
just do more assailing and scrier-ing
worthy wasp
Good riddance, tbh
latent hill
what's crack of bone again?
worthy wasp
The node in the melee tree on the right side
Next to +melee speed
Reduces peril gen and quells peril on melee weakspot kill
latent hill
also when's the damn event?
onyx sentinel
is 64 meaningful in any way? might make going BR/smite just for psykinetic aura not boring as fuck anymore
young falcon
There's basically no excuse to not have max stacks by the end of SG now.
jovial juniper
is 64 meaningful in any way? might make going BR/smite just for psykinetic aura ...
It is
worthy wasp
is 64 meaningful in any way? might make going BR/smite just for psykinetic aura ...
This is the real question
What weapons is this relevant on
jovial juniper
If it's by tick then you could get an extra 120 Dmg in two seconds
onyx sentinel
i reckon at hav 30+ it helps reach some breakpoints
worthy wasp
What about Damnation?
onyx sentinel
What about Damnation?
most weapons in damnation already hit specials breakpoint comfortably with warp rider and whatnot so I don't think it's a big deal
analog agate
Lol they made ds special go through bulwark shields
worthy wasp
most weapons in damnation already hit specials breakpoint comfortably with warp ...
Could be nice to improve horde clear.
Cleave damage falls off unless you got something like Bromentum... but that damage doesnt
What weapons use h1 + bc to horde clear?
Or chain heavies?
onyx sentinel
fgs, devil's claw
onyx sentinel
Lol they made ds special go through bulwark shields
lmfao whata joke
worthy wasp
Dclaw 🤌
So charged strike + By Crack of Bone seem like solid buffs to the dclaw build I've been running
worthy wasp
Improved horde clear, and will basically be able to parry/block forever with dclaw
young falcon
Lol they made ds special go through bulwark shields
They fixed it doing that.
onyx sentinel
fgs mark 6 (the actual good one) also does L1+H1 loop for hordes
worthy wasp
Block -> costs peril
Killing with parry -> quells 10% peril
dull osprey
bro excuse fucking me what is that scriers buff
onyx sentinel
from what I can guess is purple and orange modifiers on havoc makes enemies spongy as fuck so they need to buff players to compensate
ornate hamlet
Woke up to melee psyker buffs. I'm almost worried since it was performing insanely well already, but I'll take it.
worthy wasp
from what I can guess is purple and orange modifiers on havoc makes enemies spon...
Zealot and Vet barely were touched
Psyker was already overperforming
dull osprey
thye did not think this through
onyx sentinel
Zealot and Vet barely were touched
well they buffed DS4
worthy wasp
Ehh
young falcon
thye did not think this through
dull osprey
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
DD now guarantees peril quell
but only 5%
but still its guaranteed
thats huge too
malefic momentum from 4 to 5%
like
why
so manny unnecesary crazy buffs
i better hope the new havoc is a sauna now for grilling or this will not end well
worthy wasp
Idk how the ogryn changes will impact ogryn....
But I suspect Zealot was pushed out of the meta lineup in favor of a full squad of psykers and vets
onyx sentinel
DD now guarantees peril quell
if you already take it before, crack of bone quells twice as much so I don't think that node matters
worthy wasp
Sure but... wonder if its competitive with the buffed Psyker and the already insane Vet
I'd think the "meta" lineup now would be 2x Psyker + 2x Vet
dull osprey
if you already take it before, crack of bone quells twice as much so I don't thi...
could be but you can also stack these stuffs reaching some crazy long scrier durations
and lot of qol buffs
if you have DD on monster or captain damaging them will refresh the buff
thats crazy good too
jovial juniper
Idk how the ogryn changes will impact ogryn....
But I suspect Zealot was pushed...
Ogryn is theoretically immortal rn
Perfect block
Ranged dr
Dodges knocking stuff
Rush being immune to a lot of shenanigans
granite mauve
get ready for my arrival sah
dull osprey
full dodge on charge
its crazy yeah
i'D really love to see some reasoning behind the gunsiker buffs
feels like just because its less popular and slightly more inconvenient to play they decided to buff the shit out from it
worthy wasp
Ogryn is theoretically immortal rn
Well like, you want atleast 1 psyker for psy aura.
And sure ogryn is invincible, but 2+ vets spamming VoC makes whole team p much invincible
marble crater
Zealot book makes you actually invincible, just take that
marble crater
If you don't count the damage buff from it, sure
worthy wasp
Zealots dont pick up the extra book nodes
marble crater
Well they should, both were buffed
worthy wasp
Feel like Psyker buffs pushed Zealot out of the meta
deft stump
Zealot book makes you actually invincible, just take that
Bonus, 2 Zealots with either nodes, Hilarity.
jovial juniper
Well like, you want atleast 1 psyker for psy aura.
And sure ogryn is invincible...
While yes
Theoretically ogryn immortality is not on a cool down like VoC
worthy wasp
And there is a possibility Ogryn will dominate the meta if the rework was rocksolid
worthy wasp
While yes
Theoretically ogryn immortality is not on a cool down like VoC
Its a 30sec CD with 4% cdr per elite kill from a psyker and like 6 less secs per specialist kill
Its nuts
dull osprey
3x psyker 1 ogryn
worthy wasp
If Ogryn rework was THAT good, it could be that 4x Ogryn is the business
dull osprey
it still lacks yellow tufness
worthy wasp
Invincible is invincible, tho
jovial juniper
If Ogryn rework was THAT good, it could be that 4x Ogryn is the business
It could be we'll just have to wait and see
Ugh this will be a busy week
Otherwise I'd get my friends on 4 oggy
worthy wasp
Yeah.
Either way, def of the opinion Zealot was pushed out of the "meta" lineup. Melee psyker just got cranked to 11
If h40 still wants a bubble psyker then I'm thinking 1 bubble + 1 scriers psyker + 2x vets will be the go to
worthy wasp
Zealot needs a rework tbqh
marble crater
In other news, why is the new vet set actually great and not slop?
upper sun
unflinching fucking sucks
marble crater
Who is unflinching?
edgy heart
upper sun
ok
upper sun
Who is unflinching?
talent
second time i wiped on the trapper wave
i think playing the game is wrong and we should huddle in a corner
dusky crag
Oh yeah the quell cancelling changes what's up with that
marble crater
No idea, I didn't do that (maybe, I am actually not sure if I did use it on accident, guess I will find out)
cosmic sigil
people were abusing it with macros
marble crater
It stops stagger by any source, duh
Getting attacked is not "any source" it's an attack, smh
marble crater
Traded this for POTS working, worth
deft stump
it doesnt do anything 😭
I would assume it should be like TWBS or something.
upper sun
doesnt do anything
ornate hamlet
damn I'm crashing every 2 seconds
worthy wasp
So wait, heres a question
cosmic sigil
mods?
loud girder
scoreboard mod seems faulty
ornate hamlet
Mods are off for me
worthy wasp
Say you want to run Scriers, but you dont want to run a gun or assail.
How is voidstrike these days?
cosmic sigil
frigid gale
how does the fixed quelling animation feel,
u mean staff
frigid gale
it's a LITTLE BIT just a LITTLE BIT slower, by one milsecond longer, but it's ok
qq cancel?
frigid gale
aaaaaand game crashed
i turned off all the mods and 0 crashes
upper sun
i have zero mods
marble crater
damn I'm crashing every 2 seconds
Are you crashing because of mettle and too many crits?
ornate hamlet
Are you crashing because of mettle and too many crits? <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832...
Possibly
I barely loaded into a game though and it kicked me out. Thought it would take longer to hit the mettle cap.
marble crater
Maybe not then
clear heath
I think scoreboard is crashing me at the mission end screen
patent steeple
I myself am just gonna wait for Numeric UI mod to be updated, because I am just so used to it that playing without it is almost impossible (especially with the average public game players)...
clear heath
If anyone else is worried about mission end screen crashes, you do still get the rewards even if you crash. I checked my inventory before and after
vernal frost
2025-03-25: Nightmares & Visions
Known issues:
Contracts Overlay
Crosshair HUD
Crosshair Remap
Custom Flames
DarkCache
DifficultyColor
Numeric UI
Ovenproof_scoreboard_plugin
Power DI
PsykaniumDefaultDifficulty
Recolor Boss Healthbars
RememberServerLocation
Scoreboard
ScoreboardExplosive
True Solo
TrueSoloQoL
VolleyFireTimer
Weapon customization
WillOfTheEmperor
Commodores Vestures Improved
Markers Improved AOI
Ration Pack
clear heath
I'm just gonna keep scoreboard and eat the crashes
There's a manual fix for crosshair remap and numeric ui if you're willing to edit files
patent steeple
There's a manual fix for crosshair remap and numeric ui if you're willing to edi...
nah, no thx. I don't trust myself with editing mod files...
worthy wasp
Alright, Charged Strike is awesome depending on the weapon
clear heath
I imagine it works well if you heavy with illisi frequently
worthy wasp
I imagine it works well if you heavy with illisi frequently
Dclaw too
patent steeple
hang on... I can't even play ogryn or psyker yet, because I have more than 5 loadouts via mods...
clear heath
The loadouts stay anyways
marble crater
Rip
clear heath
but the loadout mod works regardless
I think it's a little silly to specify the chance when it's guaranteed
I guess I shouldn't be expecting clean descriptions at this point
marble crater
This way it doesn't lead to problems when it gets nerfed in the future
patent steeple
I guess I shouldn't be expecting clean descriptions at this point
yeah, at least the blessing descriptions should match with the internal variables stuff...
clear heath
stop critting bro
upper sun
no
marble crater
smh
loud girder
time to reinstall
proud frost
hey, a question
does Souldrinker have a cooldown for the toughness regen?
marble crater
Yeah the 5 seconds, it's not a good talent
proud frost
i figured
worthy wasp
Aight guys hear me out:
Shock Maul
marble crater
No
worthy wasp
The shock maul with Charged Strike claps cheeks
spice flame
We eating good ?
marble crater
Yes, entire right side was buffed
spice flame
Bowling ball staff rejoice
cloud night
Me having to work in an hour watching yall have fun like
spice flame
Dw, I'm still at work for about 4 hours
cloud night
Shoulda called off, fuck
spice flame
Hoping mods will be fixed by the time
that's my way of coping
Been a while I've been in this discord also
MHW got me hooked
summer prairie
yeah SG recon las with mettle is constant crashes
clear heath
Does it happen in psykanium or only in game?
summer prairie
in-game
spice flame
Too many crits
clear heath
thank you fatshark very cool
jovial juniper
Aight guys hear me out:
Shock Maul
Only if FS add Shock and Awe to it
Otherwise
spice flame
thank you fatshark very cool
they are probably working on a fix rn
clear heath
buff psyker crit builds
crashes on psyker crits
lmao
spice flame
since they mentionned it on the patchnote
jovial juniper
>buff psyker crit builds
>crashes on psyker crits
lmao
The funniest part is 31
marble crater
Me having to work in an hour watching yall have fun like
People are crashing, if that makes you feel better
jovial juniper
Like why 31 specifically
willow hazel
Wouldn't it make sense to crash on 32 then?
cloud night
People are crashing, if that makes you feel better
Shame
marble crater
Wouldn't it make sense to crash on 32 then?
0 is the 32nd option in that case
dull osprey
I myself am just gonna wait for Numeric UI mod to be updated, because I am just ...
numeric afaik already has a fix on nexusmods check it
spice flame
Any issues with the mod loaders or just individual mods so far ?
willow hazel
0 is the 32nd option in that case
If bit overflow was the issue, the 32nd option shouldn't be an issue. The 33rd would
clear heath
weird thing about the crashing bug only happens in live games. I can't get it to happen in psykanium
marble crater
If bit overflow was the issue, the 32nd option shouldn't be an issue. The 33rd w...
Then I don't know, was just my guess
willow hazel
I'm guessing psyker should just skip EE for a bit
clear heath
are we even sure it's 31 and not 32? The patch notes say 30
Did someone count their crits?
marble crater
Do you want to count?
clear heath
lol no
fresh reef
I'm confused as to why psyker received so many fucking buffs when we're objectively the most overtuned class, barring piss generation
marble crater
clear heath
they balanced it by crashing the game if you play it
fresh reef
Crash aside, like
Who the fuck asked for right side to be even more busted than it already was
spice flame
Me
marble crater
Maybe to make it more viable for havoc, as one of the biggest complaints was the small build diversity
clear heath
they should keep buffing until i solo the game with just the autopistol
willow hazel
By Crack and Bone being 2x buffed is insane
marble crater
Time to make a melee psyker loadout
willow hazel
I would be excited to play if that 30s EE crash didn't exist
cosmic sigil
how is the new shredder?
clear heath
idk i haven't played it because i don't want my game to crash
cosmic sigil
crash?
spice flame
any reports on like, purga staff with that ?
latent hill
the game isn't ready for my scriers autopistol build
yyyeah... I got too many crashes with that.
analog agate
I'm confused as to why psyker received so many fucking buffs when we're objectiv...
Lol I asked this yesterday. Had two people respond with zealot being better
summer prairie
tapping quell does quell for 1 tick with the staves
cloud night
Goodbye QC
fresh reef
Yet another reason psyker should be getting corruption damage when manually venting at 80%+
cosmic sigil
Yet another reason psyker should be getting corruption damage when manually vent...
it is you the corruption
fresh reef
it is you the corruption
Everhood reference
analog agate
Can you test what quell canceling is like? Meaning can you do it with VB staff? Asking for my homies
patent mango
they hecking did it
naive imp
Is psyker actually good or is it band wagon?
People said psyker was good last time I played but it was a meme. Higher difficulties they were a liability.
patent mango
a good psyker usually oblterates everything
naive imp
And dies instantly?
clear heath
just don't get hit
patent mango
only to stealth crushers lmfao
naive imp
a good psyker usually oblterates everything
What build?
patent mango
any except middle
naive imp
just don't get hit
Everyone gets hit. Always
cosmic sigil
nah it's not bad
naive imp
any except middle
But give me the #1 carry everything obliterate everything build that everyone knows is busted
patent mango
ooo few melee psyker buffs this patch
naive imp
That’s what I want
patent mango
But give me the #1 carry everything obliterate everything build that everyone kn...
buh
fresh reef
Everyone gets hit. Always
If you play Trauma and get hit by anything short of a boss, skill issue
patent mango
ok use inferno and shriek + creeping flames
analog agate
If you are great at psyker then psyker is OP. If you are good at psyker then psyker is still good
cloud night
Hear me out
We need in an engine blade like Nero from DMC
And a bigger revolver
Scriers gaze is kinda like a faux devil trigger
Im just saying a nero build would be fuckin sick
naive imp
Psyker still have bad boss damage yea? Brainburst still meme-y?
jovial juniper
And dies instantly?
Psykers are glass cannon
You get hit lose tempo and die
Or you kill everything before they touch you
Or you get hit recompose yourself and kill everything
patent mango
psyker boss dmg is kinda mid
clear heath
psyker still has the worst boss damage
we have better boss tools than we used to, but it doesn't compare to actual boss killing builds on other classes
jovial juniper
But give me the #1 carry everything obliterate everything build that everyone kn...
Inferno with Uncanny Strike ds4
clear heath
Force greatsword and gunpsyker do pretty decent boss damage
but decent isn't the same as vet bolter nuking a boss, or stubber ogryn, or zealot literally 2 shotting bosses with hammer
cosmic sigil
psyker still has the worst boss damage
naive imp
i want a skill tree too plz
naive imp
what mod is that? i forget
cosmic sigil
scoreboard with ovenproof plugin
clear heath
(crashes at endscreen for now)
cosmic sigil
it's broken as of now and probably forever
naive imp
dang it
wish they would just add that crap to the game
lol
is the damage addon broken too?
or healthbars?
jovial juniper
i want a skill tree too plz
Ds4 Inferno
naive imp
or is that baseline?
cosmic sigil
is the damage addon broken too?
wispy bay
they hecking did it
This actually might make it a fun melee psyker meme build.
jovial juniper
not against bosses
naive imp
do yall have all of those mods installed?
god i wish i wouldn't have uninstalled all my shiz. lol
cosmic sigil
i have a lot yeah
jovial juniper
Because they have 20 mass that'll tick once (or twice with enfeeble)
naive imp
vortex seems easier
lmao
previously some of the mods wouldn't work that way i thought
had to be manual
worthy wasp
Is psyker actually good or is it band wagon?
People said psyker was good last ...
Say youre bad without saying youre bad
fresh reef
@naive imp youre red now, congrats on the image perms
cosmic sigil
maybe he has not played since early 2023