One of em was a smyker too
Sure showed that beast of nurgle!!!11@!!!
#psyker-class
cloud night
worthy wasp
Smyker needs to be deleted tbqh
deft stump
I don't even know why you need 7 wounds in Malice.
cloud night
Doesnt it cap at 4 or 5?
worthy wasp
Smite is def the worst skill ever created
worthy wasp
The dclaw build I've been running recently uses smite, but only for pathing reasons.
I wish they'd rework smite
cloud night
Fatshark saw battlefront 2 palpatine
Said
"Hey we can do this too, we'll just bastardize it so people dont think we copied EA"
worthy wasp
They should change it from channeled CC to insta cast aoe cc that raises damage enemies take while electrocuted
Like shock maul but in an aoe
worthy wasp
Ye, itd make a good "oh shit" button too and less of a crutch
cloud night
Ye
Mmw tho, if/when smite gets touched, you'll see Psyker player counts drop lmfao
They cant palpameme their way through a match anymore (get carried)
worthy wasp
Right now you basically say "I'm gonna hold enemies in place and not contribute outside of that" when you use smite
Making it insta cast aoe that amps damage taken would be like "oh shit, mutant threw me somewhere I really dont wanna be. Let me hit this button and reposition"
Or "oh damn, pack of crushers/mixed horde/etc... let me push this button to cc rq and safely thin it out"
Empowered psionics would just increase the aoe
plucky flax
Why flame?
prime elk
summer prairie
Strawhat confirmed new havoc maps
cloud night
I really dont feel like using smite with my EK build
Should I go with the head popper or go with assail?
prime elk
No. Full Palpatine build or bust
analog agate
A lot of us swapped to BR with EK to use flayer
prime elk
idk if flayer is particularly worthwhile on EK tbh
patent mango
Strawhat confirmed new havoc maps
wher
analog agate
Considering I never used smite to begin with on EK, even when it was in my tree. I think it is
prime elk
i tried it before and just didn't feel like it procced often enough
ornate hamlet
ok I finished my quick psyker gmv just wating for upload....I'm still learning so don't be cruel
analog agate
gmv?
patent mango
ah found it
analog agate
No, I was talking to cooper
analog agate
Ah
ornate hamlet
my video editor just froze hope its ok I have bad laptop
dense wolf
spark head summon me food?
prime elk
No, I was talking to cooper
oh lol
ornate hamlet
spark head summon me food?
damn disss begger walking from channel to channellbegging for food
ornate hamlet
spark head summon me food?
Are you cursed with endless hunger my friend?
novel swallow
Is Assail the best way to level Psyker?
I was reading that Psyker don't really come into their own until they are leveled with gear. Which is great, but how do you get to that point. 
upper sun
oh no
novel swallow
I was looking at old discord post and found this from about a year+ back. Is something like this still viable as a level build?
upper sun
3 people in my team that have their operative name the same as their steam name
theyre either really good or really bad
patent mango
yeah thats looks alright
novel swallow
Thanks 
Would you use that with like EK for single target and Assail for clear? (Which staff would go best or would a gun be better?)
patent mango
with that build probably just ek
prime elk
Would you use that with like EK for single target and Assail for clear? (Which s...
you still have a melee too...
novel swallow
@prime elk I was thinking duelling sword or force sword.
brazen rampart
I was looking at old discord post and found this from about a year+ back. Is som...
This still works decently.
Even if it doesn't perfectly translate to the real tree.
marble crater
3 people in my team that have their operative name the same as their steam name
You will wipe within the next 5 minutes
jovial juniper
Would you use that with like EK for single target and Assail for clear? (Which s...
Low levels staff feels bad but you can try using it, get a feeling and such
A gun should help a bit more though
autumn lark
strawhat giving us some hopium 🙏
we love strawhat
novel swallow
@jovial juniper if you don't mind my asking, what's a good gun to try while on the come up, until your able to get a proper build going?
patent mango
we love strawhat
jovial juniper
<@492137137722884107> if you don't mind my asking, what's a good gun to try whi...
Can't go wrong with the Zarona Revolver or Vraks infantry autogun
But a low stability Vraks infantry will have some sway and recoil
novel swallow
Ok, thanks 
near gale
But a low stability Vraks infantry will have some sway and recoil
high stability vraks has some sway and recoil, wtf are you talking about? lol
jovial juniper
Casual Vraks inf L
upper sun
You will wipe within the next 5 minutes
That was disgustingly easy
near gale
yeah thats looks alright
patent mango
whos that
autumn lark
https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771
marble crater
That was disgustingly easy
Good 
ornate hamlet
azure parcel
I'm really proud of myself for even surviving this mission despite the hairy situations it had, but keeping my damage taken low is such a struggle
evne though I'm running a highly defensive build (trauma + bubble + smite + KD deflector Obsurus)
nocturne dust
I mean, smite is overlapping with trauma and won't generally help and KD is generally only useful if you want to stare at your ranged enemies and not kill them
nocturne dust
Trauma does that
azure parcel
like this maelstrom had hounds so it worked for that
nocturne dust
I mean, Ogryns you gotta explode their feet with like... 75%? charge
and they get stagger immunity afterwards for a bit
but other than that
literally just explode feet and you cannot die to melee
nocturne dust
fair
azure parcel
get caught by random muties despite dodging
proper osprey
@nocturne dust I blew myself up with warp unbound like 4 times with trauma scries
azure parcel
I really, REALLY enjoy Obscurus though 
nocturne dust
<@249951531552473088> I blew myself up with warp unbound like 4 times with traum...
Your first mistake was using Scrier's Trauma
proper osprey
Your first mistake was using Scrier's Trauma
SILENCE
proper osprey
upper sun
what are you gonna do
nocturne dust
I really, REALLY enjoy Obscurus though <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
I would use dueling sword or even FGS first
upper sun
GAZE at people
ornate hamlet
I swear to the Emperor my next proper psyker vid will be with gits ost Its so fitting. Ghost in the shell is my favorite anime movie
azure parcel
what's the Deimos moveset? I thought Obscurus was better for single target, which is generally what I use melee for
upper sun
nuh uhhhh
upper sun
what's the Deimos moveset? I thought Obscurus was better for single target, whic...
L1H2 for single target
upper sun
can't even consistently 1 shot a mutie
THE SWORD HAS BAD HEAD TRACK
nocturne dust
what's the Deimos moveset? I thought Obscurus was better for single target, whic...
h2
near gale
THE SWORD HAS BAD HEAD TRACK
Meanwhile I literally showed you how to do it EVEN THO I DO NOT USE THAT MARK
upper sun
🙄
nocturne dust
Deimos' h2 is the real thing about it
near gale
I can pull up the videos again
upper sun
go use that mark in game then talk2me
nocturne dust
H1 and l1 are just means to get to h2
near gale
go use that mark in game then talk2me
I don't like the mk9, so no lol
nocturne dust
Heavy spam is what I recommend for single target. Technically, you start with l1 and then go into heavy spam for max dps
near gale
Says the one too scared to run the crucis
azure parcel
I see.. is Deimos l1h2 better than Obscurus H1L2L3?
nocturne dust
I see.. is Deimos l1h2 better than Obscurus H1L2L3?
It would be l1->h2->[h1->h2] repeat h spam
upper sun
give deimos a looping H2....
azure parcel
nocturne dust
h2 knocks over crushers if you hit the head
near gale
You make whatever sit down.
Chaos Spawn:
Daemonhost:
Plague Ogryn:
Scab Captain:
Beast of Nurgle:
plucky flax
Tbh I can just light spam deimos for single target with uncanny Xd
nocturne dust
and instagibs muties
prime elk
give deimos a looping H2....
would be incredibly funny
plucky flax
Chaos Spawn:
Daemonhost:
Plague Ogryn:
Scab Captain:
Beast of Nurgle:
You can make scab captain sit down actually when he doesn't have shield.
upper sun
would be incredibly funny
ikr
marble crater
Looping h2 turns deimos into a screwdriver
upper sun
imagine 6 heavy attacks and 6 crushers are on the ground in different directions
analog agate
Technically obscurus combo is better single target dmg. Caveat is being able to hit them all on the weakpoint
plucky flax
I've played deimos with slaughterer uncanny and just light spam for crushers lol. With 5 stacks slaughterers and uncanny it's insane.
Crusher dies in 3 light attacks anyway
nocturne dust
Deimos go bbbbbrrrrr
upper sun
deimos is still very weak needs buffs
nocturne dust
Yes, you cannot 1-shot Bonbons with it
upper sun
yeah see
nocturne dust
0/10, Fatshark plz buff
upper sun
needs a looping H2
azure parcel
holy shit
upper sun
Just like how the ironhelm can't 1 shot plague ogryns as easily
yeah thats fine
nocturne dust
that's some fucking INSANE stagger bro
h2 says sit down boi
near gale
yeah thats fine
I love this clip I made lol
upper sun
i dont play ironhelm for the boss one tapping i play it for the everything else one tapping
analog agate
I don’t like the deimos cause of the stagger
upper sun
stealth is cringe anyways
analog agate
Would be fantastic without it
near gale
i dont play ironhelm for the boss one tapping i play it for the everything else ...
Crushers:
plucky flax
Ratgirl's comment flexing 😤
nocturne dust
Would be fantastic without it
I'll take bad opinions for 500, Alex
near gale
https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756
nocturne dust
azure parcel
I guess I give up Deflector and KD, go back to BB with KF then
azure parcel
honestly not actually using Deflector that much
nocturne dust
near gale
Bro, I love BB just as much as I loved bubble pre-Havoc
I never knew about bubble removing burgle vomit until after havoc came out
All I got were abysmal bubblekers
never once had it near a bon bon
analog agate
Who is ratgirl
acoustic gulch
EK Staff, which blessing are the best for it?
plucky flax
Who is ratgirl
First published solo h40 no stealth cheese.
nocturne dust
Lol, my favorite use of bubble is hitting the boss with it and watching 4 rejects pull out their pokey sticks
marble crater
EK Staff, which blessing are the best for it?
Nexus and Flurry
azure parcel
I never knew about bubble removing burgle vomit until after havoc came out
I always pre-emptively use Bubble for bon and flamers
analog agate
Ah
acoustic gulch
nothing better than Flurry?
nocturne dust
nope
near gale
I always pre-emptively use Bubble for bon and flamers
If only my rando psykers were as good as you
marble crater
nothing better than Flurry?
No 
plucky flax
Best zealot in game 
near gale
I also have never used bubble on psyker, myself >.>'
acoustic gulch
ok then
queen fog
nothing better than Flurry?
More EK usage = more things biozapped
plucky flax
Quell speed dump is sus
queen fog
So yes
plucky flax
Pls make a new one
acoustic gulch
why warp?
nocturne dust
It is a crap stat
plucky flax
Because its scaling sucks.
acoustic gulch
was thinking quell is the useless one
queen fog
You can quell pretty fast
azure parcel
so important question - will Deimos H2 still stagger a Crusher that's immune to stagger from trauma?
queen fog
Regardless of that stat
analog agate
Yep. Unyielding is my go to on EK too
nocturne dust
Quell actually scales
azure parcel
near gale
Quell speed dump is sus
Shoulda seen my 1st decent surge saff with like... 30% quell speed lol
analog agate
F bulwarks
plucky flax
Especially on surge when you have to quell constantly
nocturne dust
Warp Res you gain nothing from
near gale
Shoulda seen my 1st decent surge saff with like... 30% quell speed lol
this was before mastery
queen fog
so important question - will Deimos H2 still stagger a Crusher that's immune to ...
Push block them with the warp sword
marble crater
so important question - will Deimos H2 still stagger a Crusher that's immune to ...
Try and let us know if you turn into a pancake or not
queen fog
It’s got bout a 9 meter range
near gale
I learned recently the las pistol has a force push(like a few days ago) on psyker
analog agate
Unyielding really helps with monster dmg on EK. You become top or 2nd on dmg. And the other perks don’t really help on any BP
azure parcel
this is fine right
plucky flax
Maniac let you 1 shot trapper without crit
near gale
this is fine right
warp res is the dump stat iirc >.>
clear heath
this is fine right
ew
plucky flax
When I die to trapper the run is lost.
acoustic gulch
ok luckly i had one with 60 warp res
plucky flax
this is fine right
Bruh 80% warp resistance
azure parcel
I could just buy and empower a new sword
plucky flax
Pls never use it
nocturne dust
Maniac let you 1 shot trapper without crit
Counterpoint: Trapper is stunned anyway and will die to 2nd hit immediately after because EK go bbbbbrrrrrr
near gale
I die to trappers all the time.
My hatred for trappers transcends the game... I kill trappers with gusto
plucky flax
Counterpoint: Trapper is stunned anyway and will die to 2nd hit immediately afte...
Okay obviously I am veri noob and I hate trappers.
nocturne dust
Meanwhile, unyielding lets you hit a 3-hit BP for reapers and bulwarks on top of boss dmg
blissful solar
actually a trapper rarely kills, they're quite peaceful from that perspective
nocturne dust
Trappers never kill
acoustic gulch
Bruh 80% warp resistance
so also sword it's the dump i see
nocturne dust
It's the net that kills
azure parcel
yeah found the right stat distribution
plucky flax
If you can get like sub 40% warp resistance but that's hard.
azure parcel
this is fine right
these perks and blessings are fine right? as an accompaniment with Fire Trauma
clear heath
snipers can kick you
queen fog
It's the net that kills
To me this is like saying guns don’t kill people
plucky flax
As long as you stop upgrade before it reaches 60%
nocturne dust
snipers can kick you
It's the boot that kills
nocturne dust
To me this is like saying guns don’t kill people <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
Yes
dense wolf
snipers can kick you
turned into red mist as soon as their filthy hands touch me
clear heath
nocturne dust
clear heath
Guns don't kill people
you've never bashed someone with a gun then
queen fog
nocturne dust
you've never bashed someone with a gun then
I have a sword for bashing
acoustic gulch
how is the great sword btw?
clear heath
great
acoustic gulch
should also be dump on warp res?
clear heath
yeah
prime elk
neg warp resist isn't that helpful on fs anyway imo
near gale
how much more should I empower?
all the way
marble crater
marble crater
Mine has 30 something, it's 16% instead of 11% peril, so it cuts down on the strokes I need for a shriek
nocturne dust
Sometimes you just need several FGS so you don't have to switch between blessings for your loadout addiction
marble crater
Surely it will be fixed tomorrow
nocturne dust
Surely it will be fixed tomorrow
jovial juniper
You can see the stink cloud following them lol
Old smite cloud
jovial juniper
nocturne dust
I was told I shouldn't do that in public
We're psykers, sir, it's always public
near gale
Tru
acoustic gulch
buying swords to sacrafice, how much should i concertrate them? up to Anointed (blue) or is it worth spending more?
near gale
smh my head
near gale
buying swords to sacrafice, how much should i concertrate them? up to Anointed (...
green only
nocturne dust
Sacrifice minimum quality (aka greens)
You get nothing extra for higher sacrifices
acoustic gulch
cool thankks
nocturne dust
https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395
Copium is self-supplied, sorry.
near gale
Tru
autumn smelt
acoustic gulch
ok, which blessing with Great sword?
marble crater
https://youtu.be/5yW7zzqMcMg?si=Dz79P8LkX1GNblCz
You are a minute late
autumn smelt
You are a minute late
I HAD TO UNPRIVATE IT
nocturne dust
ok, which blessing with Great sword?
Kinda whatever
summer prairie
can you talk about everything?
near gale
I HAD TO UNPRIVATE IT
marble crater
Fine, you are excused I guess
autumn smelt
can you talk about everything?
yes
im streaming it rn with some other testers if you want to ask things
shameless plug shameless plug shameless plug
summer prairie
did the private test have new havoc maps?
autumn smelt
the havoc pool rotated
marble crater
Brunt lore
acoustic gulch
I guess this will do, for now
upper sun
daveeboy is streaming the update
summer prairie
combine00's havoc video has them fighting double captains
near gale
daveeboy is streaming the update
is daveeeeeeeeeboy the eeeeeeeeeeee boy?
marble crater
marble crater
Double captains with bugged sword animation? Let's go
summer prairie
he had 1.1m boss damage with thunder hammer
53 minute trio
also seeing some weakened boss spawns
marble crater
So some of the changes that weren't mentioned yet
summer prairie
havoc gives item rewards and ordos now
queen fog
I’d expect that kinda pay off from that but I’ve never been to a high havoc so 
I wouldn’t know
marble crater
marble crater
I think we always got ordos, but I didn't do havoc in over a month
plucky flax
You always get an emprah's gift.
marble crater
Petition to change emperor's gift to emprah's gift for ogryn
upper sun
""Assail | throw time reduced, damage raised
Penetration of the soul | actually works now (finally)
Scriers Gaze | peril gen curve reduced, instant 50% peril quell (this can save you from perils)
Disrupt Destiny | refreshes timer when hitting a boss, base duration now 5s, now restores 25% toughness over 2.5s
Purloin Providence (DD) | 100% chance for 5% peril reduced
Empowered Psionics | 10% chance, 30% toughness from toughness node, increased chance node now 15%
Malefic Momentum | now 5% dmg per stack
Surety of arms | 30% reload speed for 15% peril cost
Charged Strike (smite) | 64 damage from electrocution
Enervating Threshold | 20% chance, electrocutes for 150 dmg instead of stun
Psykinetics Aura | 4% cdr""
"Scriers Gaze | peril gen curve reduced, instant 50% peril quell (this can save you from perils)"
marble crater
Where are you getting this from
upper sun
coles video
summer prairie
oh wow sounds good
upper sun
summer prairie
that vet passive sounds op
jovial juniper
Huge and I mean huge Perfectionism buff
Not dropping all my 25 stacks because of a boss existing is huuuge
patent mango
""Assail | throw time reduced, damage raised
Penetration of the soul | actually ...
charged strike buff??
marble crater
They actually nerfed Psykentic's Aura
upper sun
yea
summer prairie
malefic getting buffed is weird
wanton fossil
When you guys share builds, do you use a app ?
patent mango
only 64? l mao
patent mango
idk how much better that is
summer prairie
you left out psykinetic getting nerfed from 5% to 4%, massive
patent mango
truly psyker is now dead forever
upper sun
you left out psykinetic getting nerfed from 5% to 4%, massive
its SO over........
marble crater
I will be an ogryn main tomorrow anyway
autumn smelt
patent mango
zealot talents
Chorus | dr node raise to 40%, damage node raised to 30%, golden toughness reduced to 15 per wave (75% total)
Vet talents:
Kill Zone | +15% ranged damage after not being hit for 8s by melee
Deadshot | stamina drain per shot now 0.1
Catch a Breath | 5% toughness per second after not being hit for 5s in melee
Psyker talents
Assail | throw time reduced, damage raised
Penetration of the soul | actually works now (finally)
Scriers Gaze | peril gen curve reduced, instant 50% peril quell (this can save you from perils)
Disrupt Destiny | refreshes timer when hitting a boss, base duration now 5s, now restores 25% toughness over 2.5s
Purloin Providence (DD) | 100% chance for 5% peril reduced
Empowered Psionics | 10% chance, 30% toughness from toughness node, increased chance node now 15%
Malefic Momentum | now 5% dmg per stack
Surety of arms | 30% reload speed for 15% peril cost
Charged Strike (smite) | 64 damage from electrocution
Enervating Threshold | 20% chance, electrocutes for 150 dmg instead of stun
Psykinetics Aura | 4% cdr
full thing stolen from cole descs
patent steeple
Hello?
HELLO?
I am guessing that's a mortis trials-exclusive capability
jovial juniper
Yeah you can see the glyphs on the walls
marble crater
Bro forgot he has to reload, so he just didn't
patent steeple
Yeah you can see the glyphs on the walls
the sefoni dialogue is also a dead giveaway, as sefoni doesn't have servo skull dialogue due to the lack of such a section on the map she currently can be in (ascension riser).
wanton fossil
Rate my gun psyker.
I wanna use the forceblade mk5 with deflector and slaughterer
and the Revolver with surgical and hand-canon
cloud night
zealot talents
Chorus | dr node raise to 40%, damage node raised to 30%, golden ...
Those psyker buffs are fucking sexy
patent mango
is charged strike 64 dmg per tick or smth?
patent steeple
Those psyker buffs are fucking sexy
I might actually use Catch a Breath soon instead of the other option (Get Back To Fighting!) when going for the ammo aura on my vet...
marble crater
Rate my gun psyker.
I wanna use the forceblade mk5 with deflector and slaughter...
Gun psyker usually has assail, sciers and DD, you have none of those
cloud night
For scriers, peril gen curve.
What causes that 50% drop?
patent mango
that is barely gun psyker yeah
patent mango
For scriers, peril gen curve.
What causes that 50% drop?
probably just activation
summer prairie
compare base SG to base Shriek, very balanced
upper sun
this update is kino
patent mango
which means scriers + smite + psykinetics aura will be viable
upper sun
i cant believe the people who made the psyker tree made all this
patent mango
specially with charged strike hopefully doing things
cloud night
probably just activation
steep rune
Are those balance changes or for the new mode?
patent mango
changes
upper sun
general
steep rune
oh nice, thanks for answering
jovial juniper
which means scriers + smite + psykinetics aura will be viable
patent mango
they REALLY figured out trees with ogryn rework huh
jovial juniper
See I've been running that
jovial juniper
I can't keep getting away with it
upper sun
psyker crawled so ogryn could run......
jovial juniper
And now Pots will work
cloud night
which means scriers + smite + psykinetics aura will be viable
Smykers will STILL try to LMB a boss thinking it'll do something, even more now with this lmaooo
jovial juniper
Oh boy I'm about to commit some tomfoolery
cloud night
Yea I was disappointed that charged strike was dogshit
wanton fossil
Gun psyker usually has assail, sciers and DD, you have none of those
Ok, and i shoudl use a Staffel when i Despite using smite?
cloud night
I wanna try it
patent mango
Enervating Threshold | 20% chance, electrocutes for 150 dmg instead of stun
marble crater
Ok, and i shoudl use a Staffel when i Despite using smite?
Autocorrect messed up your question, I don't know what you mean
patent mango
wonder if wall is good lmao
patent steeple
Yea I was disappointed that charged strike was dogshit
I have used it in its current form to proc Enfeeble on melee attacks. it was not worth it...
summer prairie
damage instead of stun
cloud night
Boutta tell my work eat shit im stayin home tomorrow just so I can try this shit lmao
summer prairie
but electrocuting might stun
patent steeple
damage instead of stun
RIP wall users.
cloud night
RIP wall users.
Yea that shield change is fucking stupid, that stun for the wall was actually kinda useful, conga line of mutants bounce off that shit
patent steeple
at least a decent chunk of them could probably swap to bubble soon, considering most wall users use it instead of bubble only for the stun...
wanton fossil
Autocorrect messed up your question, I don't know what you mean <:KEKW_ogryn:102...
A Staff ^^
When i use smite should i still use a staff?
marble crater
You can use smite with staff and gun, yeah
steep rune
Why would they nerf Enervating Threshold lol wtf
patent mango
charged strike buff 
marble crater
You can use smite with staff and gun, yeah
Most often smite will be paired with EK staff
north tartan
Gun psyker brain burst gaming
jovial juniper
That's what I'm thinking
autumn smelt
Why would they nerf Enervating Threshold lol wtf
??
iirc it was just buffs for it
summer prairie
electrocuting is probably also a stun
jovial juniper
Will they nerf the wall itself
patent mango
??
iirc it was just buffs for it
ur desc makes it sound like the stun was removed
patent mango
"electrocutes for 150 dmg instead of stun"
buoyant maple
electrocuting is probably also a stun
No
steep rune
??
iirc it was just buffs for it
Didnt they remove the stun and now it only has a 20% chance to apply dmg?
marble crater
All two wall users in shambles
buoyant maple
But not the other way around
summer prairie
talking about the new Enervating threshold
jovial juniper
All two wall users in shambles
Not yet
jovial juniper
It might just be a change on the 10% chance of stun
And the wall stops specials should still be the same
We'll see tomorrow
summer prairie
shriek should have becalming eruption built in and the other node be something else
marble crater
autumn smelt
theres a node iirc where using brainburst hits the nearest 10 targets with it too
jovial juniper
patent mango
that sounds funny
jovial juniper
This game mode might be peak
summer prairie
except it doesn't seem like the content is hard enough for these buffs
jovial juniper
Apparently they'll throw a boss here and there and enemies HP will scale with wave
zinc phoenix
zealot talents
Chorus | dr node raise to 40%, damage node raised to 30%, golden ...
OH MAH GAWD
zinc phoenix
deadshot still sucks ass lmao
autumn lark
theres a node iirc where using brainburst hits the nearest 10 targets with it to...
you couldnt get the vet cdr change through?
zinc phoenix
"give up all your stam for a mild damage boost"
autumn lark
i wouldve expected that to also be a thing
patent mango
cause i have no idea how tough regen speed works lmao
verbal thistle
deadshot still sucks ass lmao
guh?
jovial juniper
Hmmmm maybe an attempt at making Reality Anchor useful
autumn lark
from 0.75 stamina to 0.1
verbal thistle
Its amazing for laz weapons
zinc phoenix
from 0.75 stamina to 0.1
it sucks less ass but getting stam vamped for a damage boost other classes get for free is literally ass cancer
verbal thistle
it works so well with shocktrooper
nearly like 70% or more crit with it
with a good build
zinc phoenix
yea but like you know what works better with shock trooper?
being able to dodge
and block
dusky crag
from 0.75 stamina to 0.1
That's not what the change is
verbal thistle
havoc 40 with deadshot laz pistol with +9 stam
dusky crag
the 0.25 per shot got reduced to 0.1 the 0.75 drain per second is still there
verbal thistle
its amazing
dusky crag
still niche
autumn lark
ah
zinc phoenix
miss one shot "why cant i dogeeeeeeee"
jovial juniper
CRIT Aura
Zeals Infectious Zeal
verbal thistle
I'm 95% sure it isnt related
zinc phoenix
well lets be honest im almost certainly wrong
cloud night
bro said maybe hes stupid then crossed out maybe
he's stupid after all
patent mango
this update has like 500 billion amazing changes
then 1 random horrible team derank havoc change lmao
clear heath
the 0.25 per shot got reduced to 0.1 the 0.75 drain per second is still there
Is there new patch notes posted somewhere? What's everyone talking about?
patent mango
Is there new patch notes posted somewhere? What's everyone talking about?
cole vid descs
clear heath
oh
patent mango
i posted all up above
clear heath
zealot talents
Chorus | dr node raise to 40%, damage node raised to 30%, golden ...
oh
I see they buffed the sub nodes for chorus
Now did they fix it so they actually activate correctly?
assail damage increased wow
cloud night
Havoc getting changes?
patent mango
broke it further doesnt work at all now
marble crater
Right side of psyker tree is eating good tomorrow
clear heath
wait what the fuck
small whale
Right side of psyker tree is eating good tomorrow
does that mean melee psyker buff?
patent mango
yes
clear heath
the world isn't ready for my autopistol gunker
cloud night
Slap an extended mag on the tec 9 autopistol and ill use it, no lesss than 100 rounds
jovial juniper
Blue stim Assail with EP might go crazy
hollow current
wait what the fuck
clear heath
i've already been playing autopistol gunker lately
new update is gonna feel like i've dropped the training weights
imagine actually killing enemies with the gun
hollow current
DD's is gonna be busted.
clear heath
wild stuff
plucky flax
Autopistol already super strong against maniac.
clear heath
i'll be able to shoot a scab gunner and it'll actually die before I die from old age!
strong gulch
assail damage increased wow
lmao what
strong gulch
wait what the fuck
WHAT
dusky crag
i've already been playing autopistol gunker lately
new update is gonna feel like...
they finally put bullets in it instead of bbs
clear heath
lmao what
I guess they buffed it based on low pickrate in havoc? Only reason i can think of
strong gulch
uhhhhh
marble crater
@strong gulchwelcome to psyker buffs
summer prairie
Assail was good in havoc if no pus, just no psykinetic hurt
jovial juniper
Huge huge HUGE perfectionism buff
strong gulch
I don't even have coffee. I can't handle what I'm seeing.
marble crater
Assail was good in havoc if no pus, just no psykinetic hurt
Psykinetic is nerfed, it's fine. Useless now anyway
jovial juniper
Oh I'm suddenly felling very powerful
clear heath
I wonder how noticeable the peril gen reduction will be on scriers
jovial juniper
Pots fixed so now let's see my smite war crimes
strong gulch
Psyk aura changes?
clear heath
wait malefic also got buffed by 1% per stack
patent steeple
Useless now, don't pick it
I am guessing this is sarcasm.
clear heath
they really want gunker to succeed
marble crater
I am guessing this is sarcasm.
Yes
strong gulch
Imagine SG also not interrupting your attacks like shriek. That would be a bananas buff.
strong gulch
SG quelling on activation doesn't seem real. I just can't
clear heath
wait per tick?
patent mango
so it might be actually unironically on cod usable
marble crater
summer prairie
Maybe 64 first tick and then drops
marble crater
Don't need shriek and EP anymore for smite build?
clear heath
so wait enervating threshold says "instead of stun", does that mean the smite just might not stun every once in a while?
zinc phoenix
It's already op
shut up no it isnt
clear heath
wonder how that looks in actual gameplay
jovial juniper
wondering what this enervating threshold is
Wall modifier no?
clear heath
oh it's wall?
autumn smelt
10>20 chance to stun
instead of stun, it electrocutes with 150 dmg per tick iirc
clear heath
i didn't know the name
zinc phoenix
just another brick in the wall
clear heath
so it stuns 20%, damages when it fails to stun?
wdym instead of stun? Like is it gone?
jovial juniper
Threshold is two parts
The first is the stun chance
The second is 100% chance of stunning specials
clear heath
So does it not have the guaranteed special stun anymore?
zinc phoenix
wallbros when they realize they might have to dodge a mutie again 😱
plucky flax
just another brick in the wall
Based song
I was listening to it earlier on the drive.
upper sun
psyker buffs wasnt on my bingo for this patch tbh
zinc phoenix
I was listening to it earlier on the drive.
its important to remember that you dont need no education when driving
plucky flax
its important to remember that you dont need no education when driving
This banger was the last song when I arrived at my destination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3ChToIvLRM
strong gulch
I know the HP damage to shields was bugged with stuns. I wonder if they fixed that.
jovial juniper
So if and I mean if it's a change to the first part of wall
You can pop two walls
And roll for killing groaners
300 hp
Wall becomes horde clearing
zinc phoenix
This banger was the last song when I arrived at my destination
https://www.yout...
man i havent heard that in a literal age, it really is good tho
jovial juniper
analog agate
Wait, psyker is buffed in this new patch?
strong gulch
I know the HP damage to shields was bugged with stuns. I wonder if they fixed th...
Oh they are outright changing shit
jovial juniper
Wait, psyker is buffed in this new patch?
Enormously
zinc phoenix
ah the 60s, when musicians had to actually play an instrument and not just autotune their way to greatness
plucky flax
man i havent heard that in a literal age, it really is good tho
I put on psychedelic rock/classic rock playlist and vibe the whole way.
strong gulch
Wait, psyker is buffed in this new patch?
I am just finding out too. Yes, it's wild.
analog agate
Lol wtf. Guess they are buffing to ogryns level? What is buffed?
deft stump
Let me guess, Vet got dumpstered?
patent mango
zealot talents
Chorus | dr node raise to 40%, damage node raised to 30%, golden ...
here
patent mango
Let me guess, Vet got dumpstered?
buffed
marble crater
Everyone was buffed
patent mango
its right side of psyker so nothing that buffs the meta
clear heath
doesn't seem like they got much unless you were an autopistol vet main
summer prairie
The passive toughness gen is op
deft stump
its right side of psyker so nothing that buffs the meta
Isn't lower right a meta?
patent steeple
if anything, zealot was the one closest to being dumpstered in the patch (if looking at the prayer ult's gold toughness amount only)
deft stump
Wait, Psyker.
jovial juniper
Scriers and Venting Shriek had a child
deft stump
I was thinking Vet.
deft stump
if anything, zealot was the one closest to being dumpstered in the patch (if loo...
It was balanced on the fact you spent half the time doing nothing. Nerfing it seems, weird.
plucky flax
They are not touching knife and ds4 so zealot will survive.
analog agate
Lower right is fun psyker. Not meta psyker
deft stump
Lower right is fun psyker. Not meta psyker
As said, i was thinking Vet.
zinc phoenix
its right side of psyker so nothing that buffs the meta
right side psyker ascenscion
plucky flax
Are they trimming vet's tree?
jovial juniper
Are they trimming vet's tree?
Not today
stark crown
These are the small but notable Vet changes
jovial juniper
Yeah kill zone is great
stark crown
2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What if it was 3!!!!!!!
verbal thistle
4???????????
plucky flax
2 bleed kinda op
jovial juniper
And catch a breath
stark crown
3 THOUGH!!!
marble crater
100% more bleed is a huge buff
jovial juniper
Passive tg Regen on shootouts is great
stark crown
2 bleed kinda op
Batter is stupid
marble crater
No u
jovial juniper
Pair with MF boosting tg
stark crown
But the reason serrated is not really huge change wise is cause it’s competing with Agile Engagement which has a SHIT TON more value
deft stump
So they made serrated blade apply more stacks, but Mercykiller basically no change. Catch a breath is like unlimited toughness gen if it's a pure firefight or you dodge like NPNP?
stark crown
That’s why it’s not really huge on Veteran
stark crown
So they made serrated blade apply more stacks, but Mercykiller basically no chan...
Supposedly? But I’m testing it to make sure when it drops
CaB basically is really good but not like
You have to run it levels
clear heath
I have 1 serrated build that I have a lot of fun with so i'm glad it got buffed
CaB buff is gonna make my exec builds feel so much better
buoyant maple
the distance sure seems to be
it's not
deft stump
You have to run it levels
Run it lvls? I used to use it like loner.
stark crown
Run it lvls? I used to use it like loner.
Basically think of pre nerf Surv Aura
Borderline throwing if you didn’t take it
deft stump
Ah.
buoyant maple
I doubt catch a breath's uptime in a melee brawl
analog agate
Just saw rotation of havoc maps. Rotation of map pool is bad over expansion of map pool. I don’t want havoc to be a “seasons” mode
clear heath
Would CaB count blocked hits as being hit in melee?
I know some talents count blocked hits
deft stump
Just saw rotation of havoc maps. Rotation of map pool is bad over expansion of m...
Just pray for no Silo.
buoyant maple
Would CaB count blocked hits as being hit in melee?
no, only toughness/health dmg
stark crown
I doubt catch a breath's uptime in a melee brawl
You usually get tickled by like one groaner or poxxer in huge hordes
cosmic sigil
buoyant maple
You usually get tickled by like one groaner or poxxer in huge hordes
I will say 1 thing tho
given the new state of havoc
I feel it's rly gonna be power sword 24/7 for vet lol
clear heath
If i can block to maintain CaB, it's gonna be insane
stark crown
Shooter nerfs 🗣️
deft stump
If i can block to maintain CaB, it's gonna be insane
Block dodge spam.
clear heath
i don't take many actual melee hits anyways
stark crown
I feel it's rly gonna be power sword 24/7 for vet lol
Also why do you say that
stark crown
TLDR I’m at work
cloud night
Are you sure?
analog agate
Fading light nerf!!!!
autumn lark
Fading light nerf!!!!
no
buoyant maple
TLDR I’m at work
shooters relatively less dangerous
danger comes from combination of enemies
new modifiers are far more dynamic & challenging
scab lieutenants are in play (Karnak Twin reskin)
autumn lark
firing speed just inst that ramped up
buoyant maple
the enraging mutator needs u to confirm kills otherwise u get whooped
worst one seems like healing mutator so far
stark crown
shooters relatively less dangerous
danger comes from combination of enemies
new...
Oh yeah I saw the twins being mentioned that and
“The sandwich”
buoyant maple
“The sandwich”
the biggest change is spawn system being addressed
stark crown
You get pushed back too much elites will spawn behind you to force you forward
stark crown
Seriously?
buoyant maple
and u will get lots of boss spawns in havoc
monster specials are now baseline for havoc
marble crater
Oh no
autumn lark
hordes are still trigger based right?
stark crown
Holy shit the game might be interesting again on high diffs
autumn lark
but they scale on how fast the team moves
buoyant maple
the stacking DR mutator makes single AoE source unable to wipe everything
autumn lark
if you go at a snails pace you get pity spawning
buoyant maple
so 2 psykers still op
jovial juniper
spawns finally are getting fixed
Dorn would be proud
buoyant maple
no fix to psyker's infinite scaling vs density
buoyant maple
so the best melee at confirming kills & density scaling on veteran
is power sword VI
and it's getting buffed
yea I think it's ps6 24/7 now
analog agate
I don’t think you will ever get your wish of no infinite cleave
buoyant maple
if veteran even matters for havoc lol
buoyant maple
I don’t think you will ever get your wish of no infinite cleave
I think I said a couple times that a more feasible solution is to reduce inferno's atk speed
and VB's radius
autumn lark
I think I said a couple times that a more feasible solution is to reduce inferno...
increase peril generation from infernus
wait no
buoyant maple
increase peril generation from infernus
not enough
autumn lark
purgatus staff
jovial juniper
What was it?
Double the effort, half the impact or something?
analog agate
Considering most of us run ER with it I doubt that will be any change. In fact, some may consider it a buff lol
stark crown
This upsets me but I do want to try Rashad
clear heath
Is there gonna be any change in the hitmass buff the havoc hordes get?
stark crown
See if it works
buoyant maple
What was it?
Double the effort, half the impact or something?
in new havoc I think vet might be triple effort for 0.33x impact
clear heath
i'm not really a fan of arbitrarily forcing cleave blessings to be mandatory
analog agate
@autumn smelt Hey, you were saying that there were havoc changes that FS didn’t mention previously that made havoc hard(er). Can you say what those changes are now? Spawn changes?
buoyant maple
<@142046391504601088> Hey, you were saying that there were havoc changes that FS...
yea watch the vid above by jsat
analog agate
Ya I am in the middle of it
deft stump
if veteran even matters for havoc lol
Frags is kinda nerfed if you get enrage mod... And Kraks is well, kraks.
clear heath
man i just want to swing at big hordes
deft stump
Would a krak even instakill?
buoyant maple
Frags is kinda nerfed if you get enrage mod... And Kraks is well, kraks.
I don't think enrage is the biggest problem
clear heath
The hitmass bloat is just tipping shit in favour of shredder nades and inferno staff anyways
deft stump
worst is healing
Is Payday 2 medic.
autumn lark
healing and stacking DR are worse
imagine the healing DR combination
autumn smelt
<@142046391504601088> Hey, you were saying that there were havoc changes that FS...
hordes are more common, and not nearly as tied to map progression
pushback for backtrackingA
monsterous specialists is active
upper sun
@jovial juniper FIRE TALENT WORKS CORRECTLY WITH RUMBLR
deft stump
Gotta shoot the Bleep before the bulwarks/dozers block you.
analog agate
Love it. More hordes is great
upper sun
Gotta shoot the *Bleep* before the bulwarks/dozers block you.
btw grenades are a real build for trials
buoyant maple
The hitmass bloat is just tipping shit in favour of shredder nades and inferno s...
just inferno lol
shredder is not as good as inferno
small whale
also flamer
autumn lark
hordes are more common, and not nearly as tied to map progression
pushback for b...
timed hordes arent a thing yet right
buoyant maple
flamer also not as good as inferno for havoc
autumn lark
YOU FUCKING WHAT
analog agate
Fuck yeah too monster specials
autumn lark
TIMED HORDES ARE BACK?????
buoyant maple
psyker's kit is far too good
autumn lark
the single change dorn wanted so insanely badly
deft stump
btw grenades are a real build for trials
It's co-op team survival holdout, right?
upper sun
ye
stark crown
You know
clear heath
so no more just slowly going through havoc to make the spawns as boring as possible?
upper sun
kinda
marble crater
Help me, what are timed hordes again?
upper sun
you still have objectives
analog agate
Timed hordes. Twins (gross), monster specialists (as cole mentioned) NICE
jovial juniper
increase peril generation from infernus
Can't do that
Psyker benefits from high peril
buoyant maple
so no more just slowly going through havoc to make the spawns as boring as possi...
no
but u also don't want to push too fast to avoid multi-boss spawn triggers
upper sun
Help me, what are timed hordes again?
hoards only trigger when you move far enough into the map
stark crown
It’s fun as hell
clear heath
no
but u also don't want to push too fast to avoid multi-boss spawn triggers
yeah that makes sense
analog agate
They didn’t. You didn’t notice hordes triggered at points on map?
marble crater
clear heath
I think it was super lame to just backpedal and get basically 0 new spawns while fighting so it's a healthy change
dunno if it'll be too much with everything else tho
summer prairie
All the changes I asked for
upper sun
did anyone ask cole if there are new penance tiers?
analog agate
So, I am going to ask the question. Is this horde thing for havoc only or is this fixed for regular gameplay?
stark crown
I think it was super lame to just backpedal and get basically 0 new spawns while...
Backpedaling is literally just oh there’s to much but you should be appropriately punished by the risk of
marble crater
Timed hordes only for havoc or everything?
upper sun
@autumn smelt COLE are there new penance tiers?
buoyant maple
Timed hordes only for havoc or everything?
all modes I think?
marble crater
<@142046391504601088> COLE are there new penance tiers?
Finish your current penances first, how about that
autumn smelt
<@142046391504601088> COLE are there new penance tiers?
no
upper sun
Solo clutching is gonna be a LOT HARDER
not exactly
marble crater
all modes I think?
Good
analog agate
Good
upper sun
they fixed the counter for the challenge rating
analog agate
I don’t want aurics to be left in the dust
upper sun
having dead teammates should increase it without anything spawning no?
upper sun
also new death lines lmao
stark crown
are timed hordes back only for havoc?
Pretty sure it’s global
autumn lark
Combine00 — 9:18 PM
i believe everything is havoc only. its a mix of timed and progression
as you move forward, you build up an amount of hordes you can get and hordes will spawn as normal with progression. if you were to stop moving, the timer would continue to tick until all those built up hordes are exhausted, once theyre exhausted you wont get any hordes unless a monstrous special spawns
@autumn smelt
upper sun
jsat did a video on this
analog agate
Oh, enrage isn’t as bad as I thought. Not every elite. Only % chance
autumn lark
its every elite
clear heath
wild
analog agate
? j_sat had a list showing % of chance
deft stump
and happens when theyre below 50% hp
So, one shot breakpointfest.
stark crown
and happens when theyre below 50% hp
Holy peak
autumn smelt
anti-aoe
jovial juniper
Anyways
stark crown
Havoc is BETTER
autumn smelt
combine knows the code better than me
buoyant maple
Oh, enrage isn’t as bad as I thought. Not every elite. Only % chance
it's every elite, and captains
autumn lark
next your gonna say it works on daemonhosts
deft stump
next your gonna say it works on daemonhosts
RIP Enrage ritual.
analog agate
it's every elite, and captains
Is this incorrect then?
buoyant maple
Is this incorrect then?
enrage is not rampage
stark crown
Dorn dmed me about that and said
analog agate
Boss spawns will cause pubs in high havoc to be a cluster fuck
jovial juniper
Sooooo
The meta still shaping up to be screw this guy in particular weapons
While hordes are becoming dangerous
Good enough
Welcome back generalist weapons
analog agate
Well, psyker meta isn’t changing 🤷♂️
verbal thistle
Team wipe DHs are back (welcome back king)
in what gamemode?
buoyant maple
psyker went from needing 50 nerfs to needing 80 nerfs
analog agate
Lol
jovial juniper
in what gamemode?
High havoc with the ritual
buoyant maple
very good design from fatshark
analog agate
I can only assume psyker has a bad winrate due to controller (or bad fps) players tanking or something
stark crown
in what gamemode?
Havoc
strong gulch
It's me and my true suvivor attemps. I helped buff psyker.
verbal thistle
thank you potato
stark crown
If it wakes you’re committing to killing it
strong gulch
🥔
stark crown
Or you’re so fucking dead lmao
buoyant maple
DH teamwipes now?
in havoc yea
jovial juniper
I can only assume psyker has a bad winrate due to controller (or bad fps) player...
No idea about that correlation
But go on I guess
analog agate
I did guess 🤷♂️
raven mountain
So what time is patch update?
jovial juniper
all or just havoc?
High Havoc
analog agate
I don’t think anyone in discord will argue with psyker being most OP
jovial juniper
So what time is patch update?
Usually by morning
raven mountain
So not a midnight euro time?
autumn smelt
strong gulch
wtf
jovial juniper
Something about the not consuming ammo resetting your shots making them shoot more
I don't really know
jovial juniper
But it happens with iLasgun as well
dull scroll
Is this thing out?
small whale
I don’t think anyone in discord will argue with psyker being most OP
zealot is probably still the most used in malestrom/h40s though
verbal thistle
he master hacker
analog agate
zealot is probably still the most used in malestrom/h40s though
≠ most OP though
verbal thistle
he hack in
dull scroll
waiit, isn't he under a blood oath to not release things prematurely 🤔
stark crown
yeah I’m actually playing with Cole right now
They added a 5th player slot
Didnt you hear
deft stump
Big question, any changes to loner?
autumn lark
waiit, isn't he under a blood oath to not release things prematurely 🤔
the update embargo is lifted 24 horus before the update
these are all press kits
small whale
≠ most OP though
its a broad thing, they probably have the highest damage potential, but zealot is easier to solo h40s
jovial juniper
Big question, any changes to loner?
Nah Nuh uh nope
deft stump
Nah Nuh uh nope
Gawddamnit.
autumn smelt
wtf
crits dont consume ammo
30% crit for first 25% of mag
10% for ranged kills to explode enemies like a base frag
autumn lark
crits dont consume ammo
30% crit for first 25% of mag
10% for ranged kills to ex...
can you post the revolver gameplay in the other server
autumn lark
filesize too beeg
autumn smelt
im streaming it rn
verbal thistle
Are you sure?
strong gulch
crits dont consume ammo
30% crit for first 25% of mag
10% for ranged kills to ex...
I know you're getting @ a lot rn. So thanks for the timely answer.
north tartan
Are you sure?
nocturne dust
crits dont consume ammo
30% crit for first 25% of mag
10% for ranged kills to ex...
Vraks stonks rising
nocturne dust
The regen stacking has been buggy
and of course that's on top of buff bar shenanigans
upper sun
also the sephoni moaning
autumn lark
citadel of eternity in darktide
upper sun
why
autumn lark
make it happen
stark crown
Are you sure?
That’s not very nice.
upper sun
That’s not very nice.
I WOULDNT EVEN KEEP YOU AS A BUBBLE PSYKER IN MY HAVOC
stark crown
WHERE IS OMNI MAN
nocturne dust
I don’t think anyone in discord will argue with psyker being most OP
Zealot is the easiest to run through Havoc with, Psyker is the most effective.
but that's cuz damage
cosmic sigil
https://youtu.be/VnQZZMNwXlg?si=WYnQjfBOVvS2zUsY
Wow. So much changes for a mode almost nobody cares :/
dull scroll
book zealot with ds4 and a flammer is the most impactful and least effort needed build in havoc
very good
nocturne dust
book zealot with ds4 and a flammer is the most impactful and least effort needed...
until it's 4 of them and they all have to share the ammo
small whale
Zealot is the easiest to run through Havoc with, Psyker is the most effective.
That's the point I was making, yeah psyker does big damage numbers, but the best class is still zealot
midnight hull
What the fuck is this game. We went past an area where there was no DH, when I went back there while retreating , there was one??????????? 
nocturne dust
What the fuck is this game. We went past an area where there was no DH, when I w...
Darktide moment
marble crater
What the fuck is this game. We went past an area where there was no DH, when I w...
Trolled
dull scroll
until it's 4 of them and they all have to share the ammo <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188...
pubs flamming 3 mobs hurts me physically 😩
midnight hull
Darktide moment
Truly 
