psyker-class

[weary crane]

Darktide players trying not to be negative challenge: impossible

[marble crater]

I would take shield walls, but then I don't have shriek and I will be damned if I play without shriek

[weary crane]

Was I using it to kill in the video?

[lone wing]

bruh just having a macro is enough for me to look down on you, thank god quell cancel is being removed soon

[strong gulch]

I like double shield for mutant mess, but then you get players who have no idea that they stop specials and somehow get exploded by bursters being pushed by that wall when that player tries to also push them.

[buoyant maple]

Not removed, just numerically altered in application

[weary crane]

Alright buddy

[buoyant maple]

Would have been funnier if it was gone entirely

[lone wing]

breaking it

[modest knoll]

Cope

[lone wing]

good enough for me

[marble crater]

you know that is also our fault, we don't use it so nobody knows what it does

[weary crane]

You're posting "kill yourself" gifs, whos coping?

[buoyant maple]

I think what they said was that it now requires input hold of X time for it to work (like blocking / ADSing)

[marble crater]

@strong gulch forgot the tag, before I get dragged into that other conversation

[modest knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-tryan-meme-tryan-memecoin-memecoin-memecoin-tryan-gif-17435284759652386857

The macro whore

[strong gulch]

Unless there are secret single point shield users out there.

[marble crater]

Impossible

[strong gulch]

I have only seen 1.

[weary crane]

Go outside chief, talk to your family

[brazen rampart]

Frankly I think both of you are in the wrong.

[marble crater]

I have only seen like 5 shield wall users in total

[autumn lark]

Still altered enough that its slower than just clicking m1 fast

[brazen rampart]

Quell cancel macro users are rightfully looked down on, but telling someone to kill themselves is going too far.

[buoyant maple]

Yea, it’s a decent compromise for not removing it

I like the new patch notes overall

[indigo plank]

IMO It’s silly to brag about letting a macro play the game for you

[buoyant maple]

8/10 for me

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah you gotta tell em to commit sudoku

[lone wing]

ye, lot of the low class elitists are complaining about it

[zinc phoenix]

Get that plausible deniability

[buoyant maple]

-1 for delaying duelling sword nerf
-1 for havoc rank changes that nobody asked for
-1 for not nerfing psyker more
+1 for swapping out the currently boring havoc mutators

[zinc phoenix]

Because they start a math puzzle and then jump off a bridge to get it to stop

[clear heath]

i like playing sudoku tho

[zinc phoenix]

Time to commit

[strong gulch]

@marble crater idk what for, but single shield point

2 "free" points

for things

[marble crater]

I don't like this and I don't like that you posted it

[strong gulch]

[raven mountain]

How did that person hit 128k on psyker? 300-500k zealot is kinda expected. But even holding down smite the entire match should be way higher than 128k. Did they just stay dead?

[lone wing]

this hurts to look at

nah take that shit into auric damn and let me know how it goes

[clear heath]

i'm guessing late join

[lone wing]

caveats being

no purge, no m1 spam, no trauma

[strong gulch]

from earlier today

[marble crater]

no, not this again

[lone wing]

smite

[strong gulch]

All smite nodes and no EP

[indigo plank]

Gamer

What an icon

[lone wing]

you are ASKING for someone to kill you (in minecraft)

[indigo plank]

Woe barrel upon ye

[strong gulch]

It was sleepy thoughts so you KNOW it will be good.

[marble crater]

The zealot in one of my games asked for it, he also didn't learn after rushing into the enemies 6 times and going down

It was wild

[strong gulch]

[weary crane]

Smite spam i think

[indigo plank]

I had a thammer zealot wake up a DH on the first catwalk of Gloriana yesterday

He was then eaten by the slug puppy and beaten to death with hammers by the CIVI wave

[marble crater]

[indigo plank]

There is a God, and it’s the AI director

[strong gulch]

[raven mountain]

Ooof. base shield and without cdr. You might even get to use it twice a map, lol.

[brazen rampart]

Yup I hate that.

[marble crater]

Nah, I'm going to watch Jack Ryan

[weary crane]

Underrated show

[raven mountain]

I'm usually open to trying anything, but I have a few specific shapes that tend to happen.

[marble crater]

Enjoy that smite true aim gameplay

[raven mountain]

But smite will get damage from DD!

[clear heath]

charged strike will put in work

[strong gulch]

Remember that time smite used to build true aim stacks??

[clear heath]

that extra 20 damage on heavies on a delay will carry you

[strong gulch]

Better than cleave damage

[raven mountain]

It gives you 10% damage on monsters if you can keep hitting them without delay.

[strong gulch]

I'm support

[marble crater]

I don't because I either didn't play yet or it was during my "I will only play purgatus staff" phase while I was still a noob, I also missed out on unlimited EP Smite and weak spot Surge

[raven mountain]

But... the best cc is death. So if you're killing everything quickly, that makes you a support, right?

So shriek purga is a support build.

[strong gulch]

Oh gotcha. This was right after unlimited smite.

[strong gulch]

true ture sibling

[marble crater]

Shriek can save team 30m away from a dog, never seen a shield do that

[strong gulch]

Wow smite so computer melting when it first launched.

[raven mountain]

I felt so lost when I couldn't save an ally 30m away through multiple walls when I was screwing around with someone else's build.

[clear heath]

smite causing fps drops is a repressed memory that you brought back

[raven mountain]

FGS only goes like 15m

[strong gulch]

I bet whenever I place that single panel it's gonna go through the slotted floor.

[marble crater]

I would like to think I have caused a few "How the hell did he save me?!" reactions

[upper sun]

okie

[raven mountain]

I have it on reflex now. If i hear the dog hit sound, I turn and shriek, even if I don't need to dump peril.

[upper sun]

my clutch curse is over

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Proof?

[clear heath]

did u win clad?

[upper sun]

no

i failed the second clutch

[strong gulch]

Real.

I've turned towards dogged enemies forgetting that I don't have shirek and just staired at them through the wall and going, "Ohhhhh... right...."

[marble crater]

[jovial juniper]

You can do it

I believe in you

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-price-gif-11163798864566121593

[raven mountain]

@strong gulch Did you know if you weapon swap between assail and bistol, the shards cause bleed?

[young falcon]

"Woman"

[strong gulch]

I've heard about assail bleed. I haven't tried it. I forgor to try.

[raven mountain]

It's mostly useless since they tend to kill things they hit, but you can apply a bunch of bleed stacks in a mixed horde.

[marble crater]

They fucking jinxed it

[raven mountain]

and it saves you from over throwing, too

[upper sun]

ikr

i did okay considering like 10+ deaths all game and i had to pee for 50% of it

[raven mountain]

I honestly just prefer kinetic flayer with fgs throw for general use. But playing dumb stuff is fun.

[marble crater]

I honestly just prefer kinetic flayer

[weary idol]

just do it with the force greatsword instead at that point

way funnier

[copper jay]

Deimos Slaughterer Uncanny, only using Deimos while leveling all range weapon, always the top damage

This is INSANE

(Damnation difficulty no-auric)

[marble crater]

Dude is addicted to deimos

[copper jay]

Yes

I'm so OVER

Who cares about DS ?

[strong gulch]

Break up with DS before the impending nerf.

[jovial juniper]

Damn that's kinda sad

[long wharf]

DS isn't getting nerfed

[jovial juniper]

You're breaking up due to its future on a path it can't control

Hold on

🔥

[upper sun]

ds is getting nerfed

[young falcon]

DS now has another mark that is just a katana. You can now play as Vergil from DMC.

[analog agate]

nope

[upper sun]

the threat begging for nerfs on the forum is getting like 500 replies

idc either way tbh i dont play it outside of havoc

[analog agate]

hank all but confirmed no nerf

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-my-swag-on-vergil-devil-trigger-umvc3-mvc3-gif-5968110975342875877

Now

[long wharf]

what's being changed?

[jovial juniper]

This

[young falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gif-25306498

[jovial juniper]

Is

Power

[upper sun]

i dunno but something is

theres way too many people begginf for nerfs

[long wharf]

I didn't see anything in the devblog notes

nah

DS isn't going to be nerfed any time soon

[analog agate]

I'll repeat. Hank said no nerf

[marble crater]

I started to use and enjoy deimos instead of DS as well, nerf away

[upper sun]

give deimos a looping H2

and idc what happens to ds4

[deft stump]

You even play havoc?

[upper sun]

no

[deft stump]

I'm more likely to play havoc outside of the weekly game than you.

[marble crater]

Than me too

Karien is addicted to carrying people through havoc

[deft stump]

I was woken up to go help a bunch of friends because someone left.

[young falcon]

Karien with so much ping they're in the future

[deft stump]

e_e

[marble crater]

That's why she is so good, she already knows what is going to happen and can act accordingly

[deft stump]

Nu.

[marble crater]

Yes

[deft stump]

Nu.

[buoyant maple]

Not yet

[buoyant maple]

Nah

[sturdy mantle]

psykernomicon when?

[analog agate]

my previous said "all but confirmed"

[copper jay]

And I prefer force sword for the lore around Psyker

I feel so good to use the push force

[buoyant maple]

Pygex has one
Although it is highly controversial in many of its opinionated parts

[analog agate]

Also not really updated on build theory since tree rework imo

OOF

Didn't have least dmg taken. I suck

[prime elk]

incredibly based

bruh

[long wharf]

honestly, take ds away from vets and zealots

[prime elk]

deleting the comment i was replying to smh

[long wharf]

and it's fine

[analog agate]

Ya sry. I was trying to add it above

[verbal thistle]

DS was never fine on psyker

[analog agate]

But it doesn’t let me

[deft stump]

Though most pub psykers can't swing a melee.

[prime elk]

now that psykers have somewhat learned how to melee, DS is going to need adjustments even if it's taken away from vet and zealot

[buoyant maple]

Can’t happen now that it’s in people’s inventories

[prime elk]

yeah and t hat too, idk how it'd be compensated lol

[long wharf]

yeah, but it should never have been given to them in the first place

[broken carbon]

refund all plasteel and diamantine and docket costs, and mastery gets separated out as a boost to any remaining mastery levels needed

[buoyant maple]

At that point might as well just nerf it hard lol

[broken carbon]

it should’ve stayed psyker only

it was “fine”

mainly because psyker players didn’t know how to melee and it couldn’t scale melee as hard as zealot or vet

and it’s a fitting weapon for a psyker to have

i don’t want it useless

it should remain a high mobility, finesse centered weapon

but it needs its damage kneecapped

and uncanny needs to get nerfed down to like 20-30% max to make any ADM nerfs actually meaningful

[lone wing]

uncanny needs a nerf in general

[broken carbon]

agreed

[prime elk]

idk if that gets tracked, but if it does, maybe

[broken carbon]

i mean it’s not like it’d be hard to calculate

weapon power is linked to mats cost

[deft stump]

Or just refund more and just assume ppl get it at avg min lvl.

Better more than less to lessen the blow.

[prime elk]

perhaps, but stuff like rolling for perfect rolls is just going to go down the drain then

[deft stump]

What? I guess offer ppl like 2 mil dockets ontop as well?

That should cover even really unlucky Brunt pulls.

[broken carbon]

sucks to be a ds user then

that’s why i’m not

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167525723687362700/1349587322944884810/hehedancingfalke.gif

[prime elk]

i'm not a DS user, but i rolled it anyway because i want at least one of each weapon lol

[patent mango]

take ds away from vet zealot and psyker

[shy pewter]

Is Melk cookin or do I need mobility dump on this thing?

[strong gulch]

Nerf DS and give psyker and class specific replacement that stays class specific.

Force DS.

[copper jay]

Go on.

[copper jay]

30m ???

[buoyant maple]

Yea

[cosmic sigil]

Yes. Don't trust everything Pygex has to say about taxes

[prime elk]

i recommend hiring an actual accountant if you need to talk about your taxes

pygex is not a professional account, despite how he holds himself out

[raven mountain]

But what if DS4 just had damage like ds5? It feels not so crazy comparatively.

Give DS4 better cleave for having cleave damage (maybe better push too), but it's less mobile.

Ds5 takes a few more hits to kill armor than DS4 does.

Though I haven't tested it on charge Zealot yet.

[leaden geode]

you should dump mobility, yes... but melk is so useless how, he could use your business, so I say buy it anyway, just to keep him employed.

[restive slate]

Duelling sword with force push weapon special like laspistol?

[patent jacinth]

Please no

[raven mountain]

Make it just as fast as the stab but be an aoe push, lol

[brazen rampart]

It doesn't need a replacement.

That's just copium.

If you want a "force ds" just use deimos.

Better yet, obscurus is basically the same weapon as mk2 ds.

That being said, the special attacks on both deimos and obscurus need to be looked at. They're pitiful.

[verbal thistle]

how so?

1 shotting mutants and reapers in havoc with the obscurus specials seems fine to me

idk about deimos

[half iron]

shovel

[plucky flax]

@upper sun would probably fail to clutch this
https://youtu.be/EDvl9jxVitE

[strong gulch]

I couldn't remember if the middle archway had been fixed or not. I like, "I hope that's not an invisible wall."

[cosmic sigil]

Power shovel!

[deft stump]

This is psyker mains, so Force Shovel.

[cosmic sigil]

So refined

[cosmic sigil]

Where's the build AgentCheater

[sturdy reef]

can the special action be a force thrust instead of the fgs wave

wait that'd be so hype

charge it up and one tap a crusher from range with a force thrust

[strong gulch]

Beam staff at home

[plucky flax]

When I wake up on pc I'll give it to you but it's not that good

Stop tacaxe propaganda

[sturdy reef]

taxe is fun

how dare u

[strong gulch]

I won't put you on the taxe psyker list.

[plucky flax]

Nah don't it sucks. High mobility melee weapon like deimos is so clear

[sturdy reef]

I swap between taxe, obscurus and fgs for meleeker

[cosmic sigil]

2 shotting crushers so last year

[plucky flax]

Tru I like to axe them 10 times in the head

Is way more fun than just killing 5 crushers in 10s

[sturdy reef]

[cosmic sigil]

You don't take the taxe for the less than 10 crushers you'll encounter tbh

It's to wipe ragers packs in less than 3s

[plucky flax]

I use assails anyway

[plucky flax]

I admit tho it's funny

Devil claw post patch tho gonna be peak

[half iron]

chainaxe is cute

[uncut sinew]

i also like to skip arm day at the gym and play taxe instead

[plucky flax]

Taxes autopistol

It's op

[uncut sinew]

sounds like a fun build, i shall try sometime

[restive slate]

When she asked "how'd you get so good down there?" and you answer you play taxe

[plucky flax]

I prefer with kantrael shotty tho for more unyielding damage

[uncut sinew]

[restive slate]

Autopistol? Now that's a gun I've not used in a looong time

[uncut sinew]

i don't think i've never used it

[plucky flax]

I played taxes autopistol into monsters maelstrom yesterday. Wasn't so fun when I was left by myself against 2 monsters

[uncut sinew]

peak darktide

[plucky flax]

(I would had made it if I was playing surge or burga )

More training required

[uncut sinew]

bigger forearms required

[plucky flax]

Tru I have noodle arms

[verbal thistle]

Agent taking my builds?

Taxe? Shredder? Combat shotgun?

[restive slate]

I'm curious about shotgun build

Does it deal with armour ok?

[upbeat kestrel]

If you take anti armor melee then it does good

If not then no

[restive slate]

So Duelling Sword mk 4 then haha

[upbeat kestrel]

Have some chest hair

Take combat axe

[uncut sinew]

rashad my beloved

made a funny build for zealot woth rashad, i call it the "firefighter"

flamer, flame grenade and rashad

[upbeat kestrel]

You mean

Fire extinguisher

[uncut sinew]

no

fire fighter

because fight w fire

[cosmic sigil]

always the ass lover

kant shotgun is actually a good idea to deal with bullwalls

[upbeat kestrel]

Yep firebreath special

But after using agrip shotgun i cant go back

[cosmic sigil]

i go laspistol taxe

[plucky flax]

No u

[plucky flax]

No xd. Not when using taxes. But if you're taking deimos or obscures it's ez

Our meme is reddit certified now
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1jdyuug/havoc_40_easy_mod_smite_is_balanced/

0 updoot cos reddit hate smite

[summer prairie]

SG smite next

[copper jay]

Yes.

[plucky flax]

Did you get inspired by my duo with syllo by any chance?

[copper jay]

Sorry that was DeadVoid who inspired me for Deimos.

But you inspired me for VoidBlast !

[plucky flax]

Tru deimos is so trash

[marble crater]

[radiant frigate]

de imos

[copper jay]

What do you mean ... ?

[plucky flax]

Bro moved around in circle dodged the overhead but made me eat it.

[radiant frigate]

B O N K

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Darktide is too hard I'm back to medieval time.

[marble crater]

Bow and arrow without training is also impossible in KCD

[plucky flax]

I won against sir capon somehow and got his bow but strength not enough to use it

[marble crater]

Train more

[plucky flax]

Roleplaying walking around

[marble crater]

Now you don't have to go outside to touch grass

[formal harness]

Spoilers: || Hans Capon dies and you become lord of Skalitz ||

[copper jay]

What staff is better to use with SMITE for HAVOC or AURIC (Smite used only for meaningful purpose)

[copper jay]

I goit spoiled before your edit ...

[formal harness]

Yeah sorry, mobile discord aint working

[marble crater]

It's a fake spoiler anyway

[formal harness]

Ssshh

[marble crater]

No staff, just use smite all the time

[copper jay]

I dont feel BB is really useful

[copper jay]

HAHA stop that

[formal harness]

True, smiting all the time works

[copper jay]

Using Smite only when x15 crushers is popping on you

[marble crater]

Inferno or blaze voidblast if you are the only psyker, rending voidblast if there is another psyker who uses inferno or blaze voidblast

[copper jay]

For example Smite dont feel useful with Voidblast because of his stagger

[marble crater]

Really just use BB with flayer instead of smite, it's free damage

[formal harness]

https://youtu.be/9xuOxcUPjd4

[copper jay]

Stop that

[formal harness]

Was funny af

[copper jay]

I see no difference between Smykers run and inferno

[tiny river]

Palpatine party

[marble crater]

Inferno actually kills things and doesn't stop your team from using their talents

[copper jay]

But you must install a mod to see anything

[marble crater]

No, just open your eyes

[marble crater]

I also like flayer on inferno because you can "snipe" specials that try to sneak into the horde

Killing a flamer or trapper before they can do their thing is nice, you might not always have room to dodge or move a lot

[idle plover]

running both smite and inferno staff feels like such an overkill

[deft stump]

WDYM? I'm lazy. To be fair, I play this half blind anyway.

[plucky flax]

[wispy bay]

I know that it is kind of meta, but seeing people trying to use BB in h35+ then have no peril to use staff is so frustrating.

Like, even sniper can survive 1 BB hit.

[quartz barn]

Not fully whats going on

Without the -40% peril gen node you can barely use a staff as is

And while staffs are busted a lot of people simply cant use them in melee range

I get what you mean tho, if theres a different purg boi on the team i swap to trauma only to see them melee hordes

[marble crater]

Did someone delete their message earlier or is nut talking to a ghost?

[patent mango]

wake up
new ogryn buffs

[patent mango]

pure slop

cant believe anyone would do that

[patent steeple]

I feel like someone deleted their message, as I vaguely remember glancing here a few hours ago and noticing a message from someone complaining about staff psykers in high havoc or something...

[quartz barn]

Can confirm

And even tho i get little to no sleep usually i dont have a sleep paralysis demon to talk to

[patent steeple]

hang on... would the message stay here if the person who sent it were to leave the discord altogether...?

I'm just wondering if the guy who deleted their message didn't delete it, but rather ragequit from the discord or something...?

ehhh, whatever actually, not my problem.

[quartz barn]

Got kicked maybe

[patent steeple]

I never get a sleep paralysis demon, I instead just get very angry when I am super tired, before subconsciously going to lie/sit down on anything that looks somewhat comfy or something and falling asleep...

[plucky flax]

It was me.

[marble crater]

Depends, leaving a server doesn't delete your messages automatically, neither does getting kicked or banned. Mods have the option to delete delete the all messages in the last 6 months or so though, if they want.

[marble crater]

stop

Darktide is getting DLSS4, does that make you all happy?

[wispy bay]

No

Because I don't use NVIDIA card.

[marble crater]

Fair

[deft stump]

I don't even use a driver ver that supports it lmao.

[upper sun]

YES

[buoyant maple]

u can already loop H2 with light atk

[south cedar]

I wish there were more peril effects

[upper sun]

thats not looping thats a combo

u r noob!!!

[buoyant maple]

so wdym loop

H2 follow H2 follow H2?

[upper sun]

heavies 3/4/5/etc are the same as heavy 2

im mostly shitposting tbh

the stagger on h2 is crazy broken

[buoyant maple]

nerf psyker 50 more times and I'm down for that

[upper sun]

looping that would legit drop 10 crushes in 10 seconds off the known universe

[wispy bay]

Why nerf psyker?

Nerf orgryn instead

[buoyant maple]

cuz it's well deserved lol

infinite scaling into density

[wispy bay]

Nah, nerf orgryn.

[upper sun]

no no hes right

nerf zealot

[patent mango]

they did that

1 strong talent is slightly harder to get

(ogryn also got like 5 buffs though)

[upper sun]

i wish they reduced the attack speed talents and improved the base attack speed to make melee on other builds more usable

[plucky flax]

No the game still stutters it's trash.

[upper sun]

@plucky flax https://youtu.be/EajU_qTJf-4 agent wouldnt have clutched this either 😭

[plucky flax]

I die when I use hammer

[upper sun]

same

[weary crane]

Just realised taxe can get +100% strength vs monsters just from blessings

[vernal temple]

oh wow, yesterday Melk was selling a 17% toughness curio, today I find a 21% HP curio at Melk's

[upper sun]

nooooooo

[marble crater]

It only works with the primary fire, not the charged attack on EK

[upper sun]

it works because theres a talent that buffs staff primary fire

[marble crater]

[errant eagle]

Right, my dumbass just re-read and saw "PRIMARY FIRE"

[upper sun]

and primary fire on surge is used because it has higher crit chance and crit damage than other staves

[errant eagle]

Lemme tell ya'll, its hard being this stupid.

[upper sun]

iktfb

[marble crater]

For VoidSTRIKE it also works on the charged attack

[upper sun]

🤔

r u sure?

[marble crater]

Surge? Yes, shoot two big balls

[errant eagle]

Well, in that case, any suggestions for blessings on the electro staff using RMB?

[upper sun]

oh wait

surge blessing

are we talking about lmb spam or the blessing

[marble crater]

Nexus and Flurry

[upper sun]

ye

[errant eagle]

I was talking about the blessing. My apologies for not clarifying @upper sun

[upper sun]

for perks flak and whatever

[upper sun]

its not your fault fatshark renamed the staves and everyone is confused

[marble crater]

It's fine, it's only confusing because Electro staff used to be called Surge in the past

Clad deserves to be confused anyway

[deft stump]

Isn't he confused half the time?

[quartz barn]

Half?

[deft stump]

Look, I'm being generous here.

[wispy bay]

His confusion is contagious.

Don't get Cladded, don't be Cladded.

[errant eagle]

Hmm.... what about reliquaries? any particular "Must Haves" Or is it generally just personal preference?

[deft stump]

Or else ze trappah will get yah.

[wispy bay]

Generally, you don't want to use wound curio.

[strange summit]

me with my 5 wounds psyker

[wispy bay]

Play the way that make you happy, effective or not.

[wispy bay]

Also, another 🇻🇳 !!!

[marble crater]

Martyrdom psyker

[broken carbon]

ts pmo

[upper sun]

wat

[broken carbon]

icl ts pmo ong

[upper sun]

what

[marble crater]

I think it's brainrot language

[upper sun]

""I can't lie, this shit pisses me off on god""

[marble crater]

I was correct

[upper sun]

🚬 kids these days...

[marble crater]

Ogryn rework talents were updated even more buffs

[upper sun]

iktfb

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1351961788576436266/776qtp.jpg?ex=67dc4808&is=67daf688&hm=61e9da7513590881ce18c01f77e62e6d50cea0e91575e4a8b0e9c8409f4bb0ac&

its so kino...

depending on how crunch works i might drop it for something else

looking at slam it might be infinite stamina

[patent mango]

why are yours squareees

[clear heath]

what's with all the squares?

[upper sun]

i dunno

[clear heath]

wait i just noticed some nodes got moved since yesterday

bruiser and no hurting friends got swapped

the cdr node

[patent mango]

my build is ruined.... (its the exact same)

[buoyant maple]

Honestly does it even matter
Both are busted op

[buoyant maple]

U have to like, play gunlugger to attempt to justify taking one over the other

[clear heath]

i was skipping no hurting friends, but i path near both anyways

planning this for a cleaver+grenade gauntlet build

[patent mango]

the thingamabob

[clear heath]

i could swap slam for the 5% rending node. will have to check damage when it's actually out

[patent mango]

just take slam

[clear heath]

actually wait no i cant

i need slam to reach the brittle on push

[upper sun]

mine better

[clear heath]

i am pretty excited for the fire explosions

grenade gauntlet burns

[upper sun]

its so peak

[upper sun]

if i know fatshark which i do the burn will only apply on the first target

[clear heath]

taunt pulses 3 times?

wtf

[patent mango]

its on explosion tho

[upper sun]

ye thats based

taunts usable kinda

[upper sun]

yea and rumbler has a bleed blessing

go ahead

try it

[quartz barn]

but does taunt stagger 3 times too then

[upper sun]

put bleed on your rumblr NOW

[patent mango]

nuh uh

[clear heath]

oh the toughness from taunt got changed from 25 to 10 per pulse to compensate

[azure parcel]

Apparently the 2nd and 3rd pulses do not apply the damage taken debuff

[quartz barn]

or is it stagger on use, retaunt twice

[azure parcel]

According to a playtester

Ogryn chat was a bit mad about that, obviously

[clear heath]

for a second i thought they were gonna keep it at 25 and make it give 75% toughness lmao

[upper sun]

we were so close to greatness

[marble crater]

It says it triggers after 3s and 6s again

[upper sun]

forget what i said then

[azure parcel]

Idk let's see if that gets tweaked before launch

[upper sun]

taunt bad again

[quartz barn]

i get that

so rn its a qol / buff to taunt enemies that weren't in range of the original usage

[clear heath]

that feels like a bug

[marble crater]

Maybe Fatshark will clarify what "the effect" means

[quartz barn]

• might taunt enemies for a longer duration if hit by all 3 pulses

[azure parcel]

Dunno, let's see

[azure parcel]

Doesn't, according to the playtester

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah
I did notice that it was 50 instead of 25

[quartz barn]

so just this then

i mean not bad i guess

[jovial juniper]

Heavy Stubber build about to go crazy

[quartz barn]

seems kinda wack tho

[clear heath]

i was gonna take taunt regardless of if it was 1 or 3 pulses so i'm happy anyways

[marble crater]

3 staggers would be too OP I guess, zealot book at home

[quartz barn]

ye doesnt really change a lot outside of potential to taunt more enemies

but "effect"

[jovial juniper]

Heh
No wonder PBB rending got nerfed

[clear heath]

oh they changed "no pain" a lot actually

to make it work for the 3 pulses

cause before the regen lasted 10 seconds. Now it's 3s, so you gotta make sure every pulse hits stuff to maintain regen

can't just pulse once on a group and stop caring

[patent mango]

how are they still yapping

[azure parcel]

the "conversation" should just be:
Players: DS too stronk, either nerf or return to psyker only
Fatshark: Ok

[upper sun]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-think-havoc-should-just-be-removed/106013/72

my fav thread

[patent mango]

remove havoc

[young falcon]

Ok, but it's now called havok

[azure parcel]

I don't understand this comment

[upper sun]

"i cant play without getting carried"

[young falcon]

They don't wanna play havoc and can't find groups for auric. Probably.

[azure parcel]

[buoyant maple]

Can’t return to psyker only now that it’s already in people’s inventories and it’s gonna be a massive headache to try to compensate everyone while removing their weapons

Besides it’s not balanced on psyker either

[azure parcel]

yeah but the number of skilled-in-melee psykers would be like in the double digits at best, no?

[patent mango]

just stab people

[buoyant maple]

You’re assuming it takes any skill to use DS at all

[azure parcel]

fair

[buoyant maple]

It’s quite literally the simplest melee in the game bar none

[patent mango]

ds4 has like 3 attacks

[cosmic sigil]

That can be a problem in some regions

It takes skill to tap Q

[formal harness]

What do you mean me holding m1 and letting go to one shot crushers isn’t skill?????

[marble crater]

Nerf DS and give psyker a force DS, easy

[deft stump]

Slash, poke, POKE.

[patent mango]

nerf ds and give gs a new mk

[buoyant maple]

Nerf DS and nerf psyker 50 more times cuz it’s well deserved

[marble crater]

Rude

[young falcon]

You right, I get problems doing pugs sometimes. But then again I'll play at like dumb times like 3am

[loud girder]

errrm actually you have to do the extremely complicated task of timing heavies asap with the special for stagger (very very very very very very very very hard)

[cosmic sigil]

Dodging 3 crushers overlapping each others takes a bit of practice tho

[formal harness]

Eh. Not that hard with ds

If you did it with a chainaxe tho, good shit

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah true

I play taxe so...

[formal harness]

Death by a thousand cuts to crushers is very respectable

[cosmic sigil]

As a former Oce player yeah, it could be problematic. And I think it's worse now with Havoc

[azure parcel]

@upper sun

WE ARE SO BACK

[upper sun]

i hope they slightly readjust every single vet talent so u have to redo the guide then roll back the changes

[buoyant maple]

Hell yea 5th veteran talent rework

No joke I would prob want that

Without the rolling back changes part

[upper sun]

all i want is this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1349705273769463910/image.png?ex=67dbfb7d&is=67daa9fd&hm=566083dd58db5dc9de7975bccf659ad22cd10bc696a25c313bcc1315bfae69ac&

vet and zealot need this

unified nodes before and after....

hell yeah

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah

[upper sun]

HELL YEAH

[marble crater]

Psyker too please

[patent mango]

i feel like they just now learned how to make decent trees with ogryn's lmao

[marble crater]

Give me assail with psy aura

[patent mango]

the other trees are so goofy

[upper sun]

bruh what the fuck are the love handles on psyker tree

why is the soulblaze talent ON THE OTHER SIDE

[patent mango]

that talent should just give melee soulblaze on crit

[upper sun]

what the fuck is swap speed per peril on the class with the highest swap speeds

[patent mango]

what the hell is cahrged strike

or mind in motion

or purloin destinty

or crystalline will

[upper sun]

mind in motion does something

[patent mango]

or the one in the middle of ep

[upper sun]

crutch4noobz

[upper sun]

"glorpshit"

[patent mango]

its near the bottom tho

lmaoooo

channeled force also sucks

and unlucky for osme

warp rupture and shield wall also suck

[upper sun]

shield wall at least has stacks so more upgraded BB stacks

it has a use

[upper sun]

we dont talk about this one

[patent mango]

half shield wall cd it'd be hilarious

lmao

[analog agate]

I actually see way more fgs users than ds nowadays

In mael that is. Havoc is still ds. I haven’t played havoc heavily for a couple of weeks though

[patent mango]

no fun allowed in havoc

[proper osprey]

Yes

[marble crater]

Unlucky for some? Unlucky for all

[upper sun]

🤔 i wonder if it triggers on psyker exploding for the team

[marble crater]

Don't think it does

Technically you aren't down

You just make a sound and turn half purple so the entire team can see you are a noob

[strong gulch]

It doesn't trigger with CW. I tried it.

I still need to take single wall build out into the wild.

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Let me know when you play, so I can play something else in that time

[strong gulch]

Can't worse that some of the random builds I've taken.

[copper jay]

Psyker is not even the most played class, what do you want to nerf ?

[marble crater]

[buoyant maple]

scaling into density

psyker has the strongest kit of any class by far which can only be rivalled by the reworked ogryn tree (also insanely busted)

psyker completely trivializes any threat from enemy density as a factor

[solemn wave]

Yk, the savant psykers seem like the only genuinely 100% decent people in darktide

I like them for that

[buoyant maple]

given the game's most obvious way of increasing difficulty is to increase mixed horde density, this means psyker can trivialize any difficulty scaling the game tries to implement

[upper sun]

vet also has similar talents

[marble crater]

So you want a target cap on inferno and voidblast?

[buoyant maple]

like what

frags?

frags need nerf too

[upper sun]

yes and cdr

[buoyant maple]

I've said it multiple times

[upper sun]

ok captain no fun allowed

[buoyant maple]

CDR is a global problem where it's broken on every class

[upper sun]

nah its fine

[buoyant maple]

y'all assume me saying "smth needs nerf" = "I want smth nerfed into the ground"

which is not true whatsoever

[buoyant maple]

target cap would prob be unbelievably difficult to implement in terms of performance cost
would prob be better off nerfing inferno's attack rate, soulblaze's own damage scaling, soulblaze talents' value

as for VB

reduce stagger
reduce blast radius
reduce soulblaze application radius from blazing spirit

if that's still not enough, increase charge time (which I'm personally against cuz it will really fk with people's muscle memory)

I don't think any of these is overboard

[marble crater]

I would accept all those nerfs before I would accept changes to charge time

[quartz barn]

soulblaze on trauma is capped at 4 stacks

[pastel turtle]

Savant is a dickhead just in a different way

[buoyant maple]

nah, CDR is not fine

[solemn wave]

Yeah, but like, they're not cruel or apathetic at least.

[quartz barn]

also just saying, purg and trauma scale with enemy density

[solemn wave]

Being a dick isn't mutually exclusive with being a decent person

[buoyant maple]

yea, that's the issue

[quartz barn]

so nerfs to them would make lower difficulties + lower level psyker even more scuffed then it already is

[buoyant maple]

they scale indefinitely with density

[upper sun]

its fun

[quartz barn]

if anything reduce purg cleave

[upper sun]

i like using my combat abilities

whos complaining? the AI?

[buoyant maple]

it straight up does not use the cleave vs mass mechanic

[quartz barn]

ye and if it did it wouldnt have the aoe + high potential that it currently has

[buoyant maple]

I think lowest performance cost option is to just lower attack rate of inferno

[quartz barn]

because lets say a bulwark could block everything

[buoyant maple]

maybe they could try to do cleave for flame weapons & VB similar to how they did assail

[summer prairie]

Plasma too

[buoyant maple]

Hell yea

Nerf hipfire cleave from 50 to 5

No joke I want that

[summer prairie]

Good

[buoyant maple]

Nerf hipfire’s carapace damage too

Buff charged shot’s damage and carapace ADM

Nerf charged shot’s cleave from 100 to 20 but give it cleave through carapace by default

[analog agate]

Blast radius and soulblaze application size for VB would be very reasonable nerf. Charge time nerf would just make me quit haha

But lets be real. VB won’t get nerfed

Unless it is a consequence of some other mechanism being nerfed or taken out of the game

[buoyant maple]

Yea I personally think charge time nerf would be overboard cuz it directly messes with players’ muscle memory and forces them to relearn a weapon

[summer prairie]

Slow weapons just feel horrible to play

[marble crater]

Shouldn't nerf weapons by making them feel worse to use, ever.

[summer prairie]

Even now it's pushing it without flurry

[analog agate]

Lol. I feel Hank is over representing how many people only play H40. It is, like, 2. Seems to be the opposite and most people went back to maels.

I don’t agree with getting rid of havoc…. Yet. It doesn’t annoy me they aren’t adding any new modifiers to maels

[upper sun]

nah some people still play it but its a very very small number

[upbeat kestrel]

most people farmed the armour and or titles and ribbons

[plucky flax]

Havoc is too hard.

[upbeat kestrel]

havoc up to 20 is manageable

[upper sun]

the issue is party finder is fucking shit and no one wants to use it

[upbeat kestrel]

fair point

from my experience when i found a group we played more than one havoc

[analog agate]

Counterpoint to Hanks EU population. There are 2-3 havoc games looking for people at any one time in NA East (all levels of havoc) during peak. Only many, including H40, are during the Sunday/Monday evening

Meaning, it is “dead” in na east

[granite mauve]

i started playing havocs last week end and reached h40 2 days ago, didn't have any issue finding parties in EU tbh

[analog agate]

EU must like it more than us yanks

[upper sun]

eu just has more turbo unemployed players

[granite mauve]

Common EU W

[queen fog]

when it’s dead over in na east I try hosting my own and it goes pretty well

[strong gulch]

I'm glad something like havoc exists.

Deranking nonsense and the party finder are the main things I see as an issue.

[upper sun]

yeah

they should just change havoc into custom games

imagine u can make your own havoc game and play it with whatever modifiers and density you want

[granite mauve]

it's fine as a gamemode, it just really need those new modifiers because the meta is staler than dry bread

[upper sun]

what if you wanted havoc 40 but with no toughness and hp gimping

or no ammo gimping

[analog agate]

More modifiers, more maps (this especially), alter fading light. I will play it way more

[upper sun]

i wanna try the new modifiers in auric but no tough luck

[pastel turtle]

I did 100 havocs for the title and I never want to use party finder again

[granite mauve]

i'm stopping after getting the 50 assists for the helmet

[strong gulch]

I am not a skilled enough player to do whatever in H40, but some are and it's cool to have that option.

I could get better and and other player could also. Just look at the skill base at launch vs people played it for awhile.

Derank + party finder = variety supression

[granite mauve]

pulling up to low level havocs with the goofiest build imaginable

[analog agate]

Then get rejected cause not “meta”

[granite mauve]

nah, i have the clearance lvl 40 pass

[analog agate]

Bro, I got kicked for running venting shriek instead of bubble on a lvl 20. These people exist out there

Or was it teens? I remember it was a heresy lvl havoc

[granite mauve]

the only "issue" i had in havocs so far is some goober farming low lvl assignements like me being extremely toxic to the host going at their own pace

[analog agate]

Ahhh, yeah that is stupid

My dad experienced that. I bought the game for him. He really sucks so he tried sedition without me playing. He experienced toxic people rushing. Now he only wants to play with me

[upper sun]

i mean i want completions so i demoted myself to 0 to speed run

but then i realized its not worth it

[strong gulch]

I'm actually crying at this. 😭

[granite mauve]

i'd rather actually help ppl with their assignment while farming

[analog agate]

Now I play with him on damnation and my goal is to let nothing touch him lol. He just isn’t made to learn the mechanics of the game and quick swap. So he just plays gun ogryn and keeps his gun out the whole time

[strong gulch]

SO WHOLESOME. 😭

[analog agate]

I am actually excited to try ogryn next week. Apparently cleaver ogryn has some movement

[strong gulch]

This is honestly the best thing I've heard all day.

[strong gulch]

I heard something about that!

[marble crater]

4 ogryn auric time after the update?

[formal harness]

I saw that dolla sign

[strong gulch]

I'm gonna have to make an ogryn.

Y'all can tell me what to build. I don't know enough to knowingly make a cursed build.

[queen fog]

Plenty of builds in #ogryn-class due to the hype

Check em out

Here’s one of the recent ones #ogryn-class message

[analog agate]

I never know who to trust in ogryn chat for builds. I don’t go in there enough. Obviously, kerfus and hank, but I mean non-playtesters

[queen fog]

Then all I can really suggest is trusting your own reading comprehension, granted not everyone got the spare time for that

[strong gulch]

Thanks for the recs.

I don't even read zealot stuff, so I doubt I'll read ogryn stuff. Maybe the guide in bits.

[queen fog]

a lot of nodes and all that

Ogrynomicon is great I heavily reccomend it

[strong gulch]

I will only know the new stuff.

[analog agate]

I mean. I just do path builds or meow for zealot, haha

[strong gulch]

"Know" is putting in a lot of work.

[queen fog]

Better than knowing fuck all

A small foundation is better than no foundation

[strong gulch]

I got NO right now.

All brain into psyker.

[queen fog]

Many got “NO” rn given we don’t have ogryns cool stuff yet

[strong gulch]

None left over for other classes.

[queen fog]

Only know of old Ogryn

So don’t worry you’ll have plenty of like-minded big’uns to bash brains with

[strong gulch]

Over 2000 hrs and I know nothing of Ogryn other that I see them in game.

[queen fog]

That’s the beauty of being free enough to choose who you please

[strong gulch]

I don't forsee effort on my end tbh. We'll see.

[queen fog]

You never gotta stray outta your comfort zone if u don’t want to

[strong gulch]

Not psyker is out of my comfort zone.

[formal harness]

Do you want to use the strongest imo (in auric damn) ogryn build you can make? I can quickly make you a gameslantern link

[verbal thistle]

Current or new ogryn?

[formal harness]

If you want a havoc 40 pushing one I’ll give you a different one

[strong gulch]

It won't be applicable. 😭

I don't even have an ogryn

[formal harness]

Well

First step is getting oggy to level 30 then

[strong gulch]

I have 4 psykers and no oggy

[formal harness]

Spark head

[strong gulch]

ye

[marble crater]

Do you need to be power leveled?

[strong gulch]

I will. Also I'm gonna get grabbed by every mutant. I rarely dodge em as it is.

[analog agate]

Why would we need to dodge them ever, haha? We have dueling sword.

I legit can’t believe it is that OP against them. Mutie trains are no more with that thing

[marble crater]

Step 1: place wall
Step 2: stand behind wall
Step 3: stab everything with DS4

[upper sun]

@marble crater hi

r u playing

[marble crater]

In a few minutes again yeah

[upper sun]

🤔

how long

[marble crater]

Now

[upper sun]

cool lemme just dodge

[marble crater]

[raven mountain]

And I thought I was silly for making two psykers.

[marble crater]

You are, Potato is just extra silly

[raven mountain]

I also wanted to confuse people in havoc 40 with the 30+2 psyker with a weird build and true survivor.

But I also wanted to try the male voices.

[strong gulch]

@marble crater @upper sun If ur still playing after a round, let me know and I'll join.

[raven mountain]

And see what the leveling experience was like when you can handle the hardest available maps.

[strong gulch]

Getting early trauma staff and maxxing it as a baby psyker is SO silly

[marble crater]

Okay

[analog agate]

I can join for one as well

[upper sun]

i was just doing one im big tired today

[strong gulch]

Oh I forgot about this. Look. I still have my tiny blast radius trauma from before patch 13.

[marble crater]

I will do more because I'm not tired

[strong gulch]

Np. Rest up fren

[marble crater]

That DH trigger was bullshit by the way

[upper sun]

u looked at it

[marble crater]

I didn't even look at it

[upper sun]

its fineee

the zealot and i killed it?

who was attacking it?

i think my creeping flames with yours helped

[marble crater]

Me apparently, for some reason

[upper sun]

did you have kd?

no

it showed me

[marble crater]

Yes, otherwise I would be super dead

[upper sun]

ye i think we somehow stacked 32 stacks on it

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

It's ok. I'll die and then don't have to play with it.

@analog agate ready

[analog agate]

at finale. will be 5 min

[analog agate]

Sry, wife just got home. She wants to go for a walk.

[strong gulch]

no worries

@marble crater want to run one? Diabolic is gonna go outside

[marble crater]

Women

[long wharf]

don't be jealous

[marble crater]

Yeah, let's do that wall thing

[marble crater]

I'm not, because I can play darktide now instead of going on a walk

[long wharf]

that's quite sad

[strong gulch]

I'm gonna turn on healthbars. That we I can see the hard carry of charged strikes

[marble crater]

It's also 11pm, where would I even go

[strong gulch]

lmao

[marble crater]

What the hell was that

[strong gulch]

incredible is what it was

[marble crater]

Damn console players, smh

[long wharf]

you mean controller players

[strong gulch]

👀

[upper sun]

its cold and late up here

also walks on a Wednesday?

[marble crater]

Go again

[long wharf]

I don't go on walks, ask diabolic

[upper sun]

🚬 i used to hike a lot but stopped that because of covid

[long wharf]

I never used to hike, and I'm glad I didn't start

I hated road marches when I was in the Army

I dislike camping, as well

[upper sun]

hiking is great

[long wharf]

being inside is better 🙂

[upper sun]

theyre both good

[long wharf]

I hated running, too

[upper sun]

my issue with being inside now is that most video games and shows are ass

[long wharf]

glad that's over with

[upper sun]

what else is there today

[upper sun]

that i agree with

running is shit

oh shit battlefield is 95% off

[long wharf]

I'm waiting for Baldur's Gate 3 to go on a better sale

[upper sun]

a friend of mine is thinking of buying ill eventually play it on steam family or something

[long wharf]

oh, Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous is 90% off

that's an easy purchase

nice

uh oh, now we'll figure out where you really live

[upper sun]

Too late already doxxed

[analog agate]

We are walking in a park. We live next to one

[upper sun]

you live in moldova

[long wharf]

there are only a million parks in the world, getting there

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbolt-geoguessr-google-maps-looking-rain-bolt-gif-13887226046939478457

north north Macedonia

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

We did it

[marble crater]

Redemption

[strong gulch]

Shocking no one. Build bad

[marble crater]

Smite build and shocking no one, bad indeed

[strong gulch]

I used it to stun a trapper right before she died.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

bed time?

[marble crater]

I will do one more and then watch Jack Ryan

[strong gulch]

kk

I'm gonna explode a lot

[marble crater]

Oh no

[strong gulch]

unless we get carnival then I am gonne bubble

[marble crater]

I will half clutch

[strong gulch]

You clutched other game

[strong gulch]

I only blew up on accident a few times

[marble crater]

I only went down because reapers

[strong gulch]

I almost did. I didn't respect them.

[marble crater]

Heretics don't deserve respect

[strong gulch]

Just their bullets

[marble crater]

Normal damnation is so empty

Where were the 20 bombers and flamers all at once?

[strong gulch]

Was that normal dam? Did I goof??

also

[marble crater]

Yeah, normal damn without any modifiers

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

That's why it felt different

4 wounds

[marble crater]

I thought you picked it on purpose because of whatever that build is

[strong gulch]

Purple build. Boom and get more purple.

Even purple outfit

[marble crater]

No

[strong gulch]

[marble crater]

Cursed

[strong gulch]

💜

[upper sun]

clearly not enough

u need 45 more psykers

[strong gulch]

RIGHT?

[upper sun]

WRONG 😭

[strong gulch]

[marble crater]

A loadout for every hex color code

[strong gulch]

I would love that.

[marble crater]

Clad, I did something you can never do

[strong gulch]

Beetlejuice is yellow and black.

Duck Weed is green.

Beans is mostly red but can go any color.

[upper sun]

what

[marble crater]

I clutched

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

I was there with single wall. I saw the clutch.

[marble crater]

The single wall

[strong gulch]

4 points into smite with no EP and never using it definitely contribute to me dying.

[marble crater]

I was confused why the muties just kept running, but yeah... No wall add ons

[strong gulch]

Then build worked!

[marble crater]

Imagine there are bursters coming, you place your wall and the team dies because they thought they had an extra second or two, because the wall will stun them

[wispy bay]

I have a similar but with Warp Siphon.

[strong gulch]

So many points needed. 😭

[wispy bay]

There is 1 extra point that you can put whatever

[strong gulch]

[clear heath]

what am i looking at?

why is that talent there

[strong gulch]

The last build I played with @marble crater. It's for fire trauma/ VB. With wounds. Boom for more purple and wear purple outfit.

[clear heath]

seeing crystalline will scares me

[strong gulch]

For safe booms

[marble crater]

Don't look at it

[fallow token]

anything i can/should drop or this is fine?

[marble crater]

That's the most normal of the recent builds here, it's fine

[fallow token]

i dk if i should get etherial shard

but no idea what to drop

[strong gulch]

I'd get the last DD node before ES

[marble crater]

You could drop Endurance maybe?

[fallow token]

[strong gulch]

If you're taking the FGS, I rec the speed boost on SG. It's not needed, but it's nice.

[fallow token]

im thinking dropping perilous but
u said to drop endurance

[marble crater]

You don't need toughness damage reduction, if you don't get hit in the first place

[fallow token]

might consider this ig

soulblaze is just burn right?

or actually does more than that?

[marble crater]

It's just psyker burn

[broken carbon]

basically yes

i think it slightly differs

but its not by any notable metric

[fallow token]

im scared UwU

[broken carbon]

@fallow token ticks every .75s instead of every .5s

idk about damage differences

[fallow token]

maybe i can drop it

[broken carbon]

keep PC

its good

lets you mulch elite packs

rager packs, shotgunners, gunners, maulers

all get obliterated by PC

just kill 2-3 and they'll start dropping

[broken carbon]

u can drop one with the warp

u already have endurance

bbut

you also have warp splitter

which affects assail

and u get more cleave from warp splitter

and with warp unbound

you have 10s of max warp buffed assail

[raven mountain]

Other than the peril to toughness node at the top which I put into one of the assail nodes. And I take the movement speed instead of the toughness on scrier's. But that's a very solid assail scrier's setup.

The assail node I'd take is the extra cleave. In a shriek build, I'd take the regenerating speed because you'll be using them more actively to build up peril.

[fallow token]

[raven mountain]

I actually prefer one with the warp because it bottoms out at 10% and goes up to 33%

[raven mountain]

That's the way mine is set up. I usually use bolt pistol, but I also sometimes bring a voidblast staff to have a better reaction into bulwarks and crushers.

[fallow token]

mine is on fgs

[raven mountain]

Bolt pistol gives better monster damage because you can maintain bleed stacks easily, swap-firing a shot between swings (2-3ish)

Voidblast gives better control into bulwarks, letting you knock them over to kill easily.

I've gone back and forth between both.

[raven mountain]

Yeah, scrier's fgs is fantastic. I also use a mobility bolt pistol to run faster.

[strong gulch]

Overall one with the warp is better. ys

[raven mountain]

On my EP-assail version, I use ds4(or ds5 when I feel too dirty) to handle them.

[fallow token]

ds

cheat code

but getting boring

[raven mountain]

Ds4 cheat code.

[fallow token]

when psyker has force sword

[raven mountain]

Ds5 less so.

[fallow token]

that other classes cant have

[raven mountain]

Fgs+staff just has a really slow movement. 5.0-5.25. You're even faster just by swapping to blitz.

[fallow token]

i dnt play staves with fgs

unless

EK

[raven mountain]

Yeah. EK and then that specific scrier assail with vb for me.

Occasionally voidstrike.

It has good clear into horde at long range, but when in the shit, fgs clears more safely, while ds gives you more mobility to sneak out.

Inferno and Voidblast-centric love the mobility stick since they solve almost everything by themselves.

[pure karma]

Yo guys question

Is warp resistance a dump stat or quell speed?

[modest patrol]

Almost always warp res

[pure karma]

Gotcha, cuz i´m struggling trying to craft an eletric build and started wondering if my staffs were actually good or not lol+

}Thx for the answer

[modest patrol]

Np, when in doubt search the item in the chat history + dump stat, ie. “Electrokinetic dump stat”

[pure karma]

Oh, thats actually handy. makes everything a little easier

[modest patrol]

You’ll find answers from folks far more experienced than me for sure

I’m a filthy casual

[raven mountain]

The answer is almost always warp res.