psyker-class

[deft stump]

Shoots beeg gun cos light brush.

[copper jay]

The FGS is the first "cleave" weapon melee for Psyker ?

The previous and first Psyker were so brave

[deft stump]

Illisi.

[copper jay]

And for the old dogs

There were not talent tree at launch ?

[broken carbon]

no

[copper jay]

So ... How it was ?

[broken carbon]

we had 6 sets of 3 “feats”

and you could pick one out of each set

[weary crane]

2 warp charges from kill

[broken carbon]

it was alright

but we didn’t have any different blitz’s

or any different abilities

only ability modifiers

[brazen rampart]

You know how fun it would be if illisi had a sort of relic blade style activation?

Like you special for a chunk of peril and it stays empowered until you turn it off or cap out on peril, where it then turns off.

[copper jay]

Thanks that looks terrible 😭

What was the meta with classes with the old build ?

[weary crane]

I had a voidstrike build which was good

[copper jay]

HAHAHAHAAHAHA

[plucky flax]

Nezuko and demon too

[copper jay]

That seems decent against bosses

[weary crane]

Idk why they removed this

[upper sun]

what did agony do?

[weary crane]

I think it was soulblaze

[brazen rampart]

Unironically, the best class was vet with shredder autopistol.

Was.

Autopistol used to be so good.

[copper jay]

Ogryn was never meta ?

[weary crane]

[upper sun]

autopistol will be great again next week believe

BELIEVE

[weary crane]

I think ogryn had about 3 weapons

[broken carbon]

what did agony even do again

[upper sun]

NEXT PATCH:
ogryn replaced with psyker2
autopistol is dualwield(it still sucks)
power axe is game breaking
vet gas grenades are replaced with mines
also rashad and ds4 buffs

[weary crane]

I think it was soulblaze

They just renamed it

[broken carbon]

forgot power axe only goes to vet

[drifting steeple]

hey guys is the thunder hammer bis

[upper sun]

ur shitting me

[broken carbon]

no but it’s fun

[brazen rampart]

Yesn't.

[drifting steeple]

cringe

[broken carbon]

no but it’d fit with the bullshit

[upper sun]

SAY SYKE RN

[broken carbon]

i hope it doesnt

but

knowing fatshark

it’s possible

[upper sun]

😭

[weary crane]

But they updated the old tree, it was actually really good for psyker

Before the overhaul

[drifting steeple]

chat when's the dev talk that may or may not get delayed (again) happen?

[upper sun]

why cant zealot use power axe....

[brazen rampart]

Vet deserves a power sword rework and maybe the longlas, that's about it.

[broken carbon]

they need more melee weapons

i do agree but

[weary crane]

There was a perk that meant you got 2 warp charges from 1

[copper jay]

They really have balls made of steel 😭

[broken carbon]

power axe should not be vet exclusive

a vet exclusive should be like

power fist

[upbeat kestrel]

Its shoul be zealot exclusive

[upper sun]

vet exclusive be like: shobel

[drifting steeple]

power shovel

[broken carbon]

i’d only want it to be that if vet got something else soon

[weary crane]

Oh the ogryn bullrush was wayyyy worse than it is now too

[upper sun]

id bitch so hard in the forum if its a vet exclusive

[broken carbon]

but it’s almost certainly going to be on vet at some point

[weary crane]

I'm pretty sure it went as far as the zealot dash

[drifting steeple]

new vet exclusive weapon: jackhammer

[broken carbon]

because of relic blade going to zealot, and iirc they promised they vet was going to get something next

[brazen rampart]

I would be content with vet getting a new melee if fatshark gave zealout shovels.

[broken carbon]

i don’t even think vet should get two handeds tbh

[upper sun]

fuck vet who cares

im primitively crashing out bros...

[broken carbon]

preemptively

[upper sun]

thats what discord spell check decided so thats what i went with

[brazen rampart]

Clad is a primitive, confirmed.

[upper sun]

who the fuck would use primitively anywhere?

[marble crater]

Just wait for the new announcement

[upper sun]

no i need to crashmax rn so i can get the most crashout for my time

[deft stump]

We driller now?

Can we skip doors and stuff?

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/rich-compressed-gold-drg-deep-rock-galactic-were-rich-gif-27496741

[upper sun]

i fucked up bros

[brazen rampart]

WE'RE RICH

[upper sun]

i got two energy drinks put one in the fridge and one in the freezer

i just realized ive been sipping the fridge one for 2 hours

[drifting steeple]

oh no

[brazen rampart]

Should be fine as long as it isn't carbonated.

[marble crater]

There are energy drinks that are not carbonated?

[upper sun]

monster

[drifting steeple]

im super autismo and don't drink carbonated drinks

[upper sun]

ye i got lucky

[deft stump]

Don't make me deposit it...

[upper sun]

aaaand i forgot to charge my phone

that fucking monster better dethaw

[deft stump]

Nub.

[upper sun]

im just eepy

[drifting steeple]

i was trying to charge my phone this morning but the power went out when i plugged it in

[upper sun]

same moment?

[drifting steeple]

yes

but it was because of a city-wide outage

[upper sun]

are you sure your charger isnt just causing a short circuit?

oh

unlucky

[marble crater]

Charger caused a city wide short circuit

[drifting steeple]

something with the weather caused some power poles to catch fire

i was at my bf's and was pissed i couldnt play darktide before going to school

[deft stump]

Battery packs gud.

[drifting steeple]

yeah i used mine

[deft stump]

Life savers.

[patent mango]

dt news any second now

or games cancelled either one

[marble crater]

Why

[patent mango]

gambling

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/gamblecore-stickman-casino-gamble-gif-7118676210396292522

[upper sun]

POWER AXE

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-kinji-hakari-kingji-goatkari-gambling-jackpot-gif-5065864224805726506

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-котики-коты-кот-мем-смешной-кот-gif-1217543190840794618

[dull scroll]

the new vet wepaon should just be a gun

that can be equiped in melee

[drifting steeple]

where can i watch and wait for the annoucement

[marble crater]

Do we even know there will be one today?

[upper sun]

which announcement?

for dt update?

[patent mango]

game cancellation announcement

[jovial juniper]

Only speculations

🗣️

[drifting steeple]

🤷

[upper sun]

theyll post about it #🐦tweets-sermons and on the forum resonably any day from now till monday

or theyll just randomly push an update and you can read about it 5 hours later

[patent mango]

game delisted from steam

[mental grail]

it's crazy to tell new darktide players that literally all weapon progression in the game was literally just this for 2 years straight

[drifting steeple]

i believe you

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rolls-mudae-gambling-hakari-gamble-gif-8639667775003727936

[stark crown]

Always bet on Hakari

[patent mango]

complete ogryn rework in the update

and 20 nerfs

[wooden sand]

No

[copper jay]

The games is so much more fun than Vermintide, I dont think so

[wooden sand]

Darktide becomes Vermintide 3

[drifting steeple]

age of sigmar: vermintide

[restive slate]

I heard the gunpsyker meta has shifted to Recon Lasgun now?

[wooden sand]

It awalys have been recon lasgun

[restive slate]

Used to be Inf Autogun haha

[wooden sand]

No?

Maybe was another meta

[restive slate]

Maybe, I havent played since a while back

Didnt hear of no recongunpsyker meta back then

[drifting steeple]

The weapons I like the most aren't meta :(

[marble crater]

You don't need to play meta in auric

[wooden sand]

Thats fine, as long you don't try to do Havoc 40

[mental grail]

Literally has been for half a year at least

Columnus got it's crit strings nerfed a long time ago

[restive slate]

I havent been on Darktide for that time haha

[mental grail]

recon lasgun stepped up

[restive slate]

Ahhhh that makes sense

[drifting steeple]

That's good to know

[marble crater]

What is a "columnus"?

[dim parrot]

as long as u have fun with it
who cares if its meta or not

[restive slate]

What is a "surge" staff

[drifting steeple]

What's havoc 40? I know havoc is the end game but what's the 40 part

[fluid charm]

I just had weird glitch, i was pulled into match as i was looking at my gear and changing from my builds but when i got into match i was using build 1 talents but using build 2 weapons

[marble crater]

Highest level

[upper sun]

columbus still hip fires a lot better than the other two

its not even about dps

[marble crater]

Havoc 40 makes auric maelstrom look easy

[jovial juniper]

Old name of electric staff

[mental grail]

I hipfire permanently with accatran as well

ads for recons is dogshit

[jovial juniper]

Too bad surge surge isn't a thing

[fluid charm]

Why is the example build for psylot build gone

[drifting steeple]

The names voidstrike and voidblast confuse the shit out of me

I just check which one of the two I am higher ranked in

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[marble crater]

Blast makes a blast on the ground

[dim parrot]

I wish para was still here

[marble crater]

Strike because you shoot it like a bowling ball

[wooden sand]

They should change both names

[marble crater]

Again?

[wooden sand]

Yes

Again

[drifting steeple]

Why'd they change it

[copper jay]

What are you weapons against armored and unyielding with Recon Lasgun ?

[marble crater]

because

[wooden sand]

You know very well

It start with D

[marble crater]

Devils Claw

[copper jay]

Wait really ?

With the special attack riposte ?

[deft stump]

You can parry overheads, I guess?

[patent mango]

dclaw is meta it probably disappoints the heretics too

[wooden sand]

No I would say dueling sword

[copper jay]

Really ? Interesting !

[wooden sand]

[copper jay]

Oh !

[marble crater]

Sorry, we are trolling

[drifting steeple]

I need a psyker weapon tier list

[wooden sand]

Dueling sword S++

Uhhhh

[copper jay]

That's ok, you are training my critical thinking

[deft stump]

But you can perfect parry overheads, wasn't it?

[wooden sand]

I don't remember the others

[uncut sinew]

FGS >>>>

[dull scroll]

you forgot the taxe

[quartz barn]

DS still better, but fgs is a solid second place

[uncut sinew]

DS better but FGS more fun

[quartz barn]

Me chunking the poggy with 9-12k hits

[flat shadow]

Devils claw is easy mode trust me

[uncut sinew]

just spam special

ez

[flat shadow]

No

I had a guy in my game go like guys this game is easy I'm going to only parry this works every time

As psyker

He ran into a crowd stood still and parried over and over and died in several seconds

[uncut sinew]

sounds like he didn't spam it hard enough

[flat shadow]

I just use the mk1

Hordes are easy

Spam heavy

[uncut sinew]

this is true

can't wait to get the shovel for psyker

[flat shadow]

Poke attack shove overhead

I should try take a swing on my shovel sometime

[uncut sinew]

i prefer the OG, with the stun special, more fun imo

[sturdy cedar]

Anyone else feel super satisfied after killing a horde with the seeker bee shard things? Its one of the most useful things on lower levels imo

[uncut sinew]

agreed

[flat shadow]

this is the one I was referring to

[uncut sinew]

bee stinger build good build

[uncut sinew]

ah

me dumdum

[flat shadow]

because flips don't have poke attack

[patent steeple]

hang on... could Dclaw work on psyker if using it with something like Zappy Staff/literally any ranged with at least some rending to compensate for the Dclaw itself being bad at carapace?

[uncut sinew]

it's p good

[flat shadow]

I take hammerblow on it because I like knocking crushers over

[uncut sinew]

time to test it ig

[uncut sinew]

based

[sturdy cedar]

I play all 4 classes, but I main zealot, and the psyker melee weapons are really hard for me to use lol. I have to change my entire mentality, since I'm no longer a walking tank lol

[uncut sinew]

full impact shovel stun locking bosses would be fun

[copper jay]

6 or 8 ?

[uncut sinew]

6

[copper jay]

Based

[uncut sinew]

better imo

[copper jay]

I have some difficulties to use Force weapon sometimes

[flat shadow]

Yes?

Don't see why not

[copper jay]

I played a lot of vermintide 2 and the normal push is in my DNA now

[flat shadow]

I take it with by crack of bone and the talent that makes blocking cost peril instead of stamina

0 stamina parries

[uncut sinew]

takes a bit of time to get used to psyker melee, but it's really rewarding once you get the hang of it

[uncut sinew]

love it

such a clutch

[sturdy cedar]

Mostly a matter of not forgetting I'm playing psyker, and running into a horde and getting my shit rocked lol

On almost any level but Havoc, I can pretty much solo hordes on zealot, but I can't do that with any other class

[copper jay]

Solo hordes are way easier on Darktide than Vermintide

[uncut sinew]

agreed

[fluid charm]

Is the guide under revisions? some of the pictures are gone like the attack string for combat blade or psylot build

I cant read i need pictures

[uncut sinew]

me's a not know

[copper jay]

I think this is because normal attacks dont follow you on Darktide ?

Once the animation begon

Even ragers seems slower on darktide than vermintide

[uncut sinew]

or it could be that i started with darktide and suck donkey kong ass in vermintide

[uncut sinew]

oh fuck the berzerkers 😭

internet bullies

[sturdy cedar]

I started with vermintide, and I found it easier in the beginning than darktide, but now its reversed. I am so much better at darktide now than i was at vermintide.

[uncut sinew]

darktide is easier than vermintide imo

more movement tech in darktide

[sturdy cedar]

When I played vermintide, I would main ironbreaker, so I didn't dodge a lot

[copper jay]

And weapons are more all-around on Darktide in comparison too 🤔

[copper jay]

You deserve to be unhappy

And i'm saying this with all my love

[marble crater]

No idea, I haven't seen the creator in a while either. But overall the guide is still good to use

[sturdy cedar]

Pretty much the response I was expecting lol

[uncut sinew]

@copper jay have you tried the build yet that i shared earlier today?

[sturdy cedar]

I do wonder what that says about me, tho. Main ironbreaker on vermintide, and zealot on darktide.

[copper jay]

Not yet ! (Still at work 😭 )

[marble crater]

Means you are toxic, maybe

[uncut sinew]

i'm sorry for your loss

[copper jay]

Sienna main on Vermintide and Psyker main on Darktide ...

[sturdy cedar]

I do try to not be toxic, but sometimes it just comes out of me lol

[copper jay]

This is like playing Pyromancer, I like it a lot of

[uncut sinew]

Grail Knight on vermintide and Psyker on darktide

what am i

[sturdy cedar]

Meta

[copper jay]

A greatsword Enjoyer

[uncut sinew]

absolutely

[copper jay]

I miss the block while charging heavy attack with the Grail Knight

They must put this on Ogryn here

[uncut sinew]

although i use the executioners sword on grail knight

[sturdy cedar]

I use relic blade and bolt pistol, what does that say, then?

[analog agate]

@worthy wasp

[copper jay]

Chorus ?

[sturdy cedar]

Yea

[uncut sinew]

was gonna say gay but that works too ig

[copper jay]

You are a teamplayer clear horde

I'm so happy to finish the smite penance

I did one game with 2 others smite Psyker, i was so angry the whole game

[uncut sinew]

4 smykers make a great gaming experience

[flat shadow]

I disagree

I had a smyker in my game last night in auric maelstrom continually going down to poxwalkers and letting bursters explode on him

smykers don't know how to defend themselves

[uncut sinew]

this is true

[uncut sinew]

based

[sturdy cedar]

I agree

[flat shadow]

Imagine 4 smykers all zapping a nurgle blessed crusher and it just kills them all one by one because they don't know what fighting is

very satisfying

[uncut sinew]

mmm

peak gameplay

[copper jay]

I mean, this is honorable !

Saying yourself "I'm playing CC to help my team"

But in reality this is a nightmare 😭

[sturdy cedar]

The only psykers I run into that can actually survie on their own is one that runs a melee build with chainaxe. All the others I see couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

[marble crater]

How do you feel the 4th player felt, playing with 3 smite psykers

[copper jay]

I said sorry the whole game 😭

[flat shadow]

Valiantly smiting the nurgle blessed ragers slicing up your veteran while a single poxwalker beats you to death with his fists

[uncut sinew]

he was probably sightseeing

[copper jay]

On everygame

[copper jay]

He was doing the whole killing ... With a rashad axe

DAMN THAT WAS SO SLOW

[patent mango]

chainaxe psyker is pure copium they had training with that

[flat shadow]

"don't worry guys I have empowered smite"

Never kills an elite

hordes take 2 minutes to die

[uncut sinew]

nah he was having popcorn at the back, watching the hordes dance like it's a rave

[copper jay]

That was my first idea : Doing Smite and Psykana penance in same time

[uncut sinew]

the duality of a man

[copper jay]

But this is not working very well ...

[sturdy cedar]

I agree, but I never see any others that can survive with any other melee. Its always the axe guys that live

[flat shadow]

That's because you never meet real devils claw users

[uncut sinew]

or a fgs user

[patent mango]

do you not see any greatsword users

[sturdy cedar]

I never see anyone use devils claw at all.

[flat shadow]

But actually it's because veteran can kill like 6 people in one swing with an axe and also do tons of damage to carapace

[uncut sinew]

this ^

[loud girder]

i run into many gfs users

[copper jay]

Wait really ? Vet has a better cleave with Rashad ?

[flat shadow]

Oh and they can stagger and not die whenever they want with shout

[uncut sinew]

no gfs here, only fgs

[loud girder]

real

[patent mango]

vet only has 1 ability

[loud girder]

exec stance is goated tho

[flat shadow]

specifically veteran has talents that improve "finesse" and weakspot damage

[sturdy cedar]

Wait, why did my name just go from grey to red? Did someone give me another role?

[uncut sinew]

[flat shadow]

with brutal momentum and a lot of talents that increase finesse

[uncut sinew]

i love my bolter exe stance

[patent mango]

emperor gave you it

[flat shadow]

you can cleave through something like 5 or 6 poxwalkers

[copper jay]

You dont deserve it, Ironbreaker main

[flat shadow]

In one swing

[marble crater]

Yeah, a bot

[sturdy cedar]

Cool

[flat shadow]

You can post pictures now

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010418653440786482/1141208276701302818/DD9A08A3-060E-4EB3-B176-ACE10BE53EB3.gif

The warp

[uncut sinew]

i love my warp

[sturdy cedar]

Anyone want some 40k memes? I have a bunch that I find on facebook and other discords, and I like to see if people happen to have them

[patent mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/317762518103883787/1076345620954099782/ezgif.com-gif-maker_7.gif

[uncut sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/baldi-baldis-basics-mogged-mog-rizz-gif-11774215665411580343

[copper jay]

Post them on #zealot-class

[marble crater]

you are learning fast

[copper jay]

I have the best teachers

[sturdy cedar]

There

[patent mango]

#zealot-class is just the meme channel

[flat shadow]

Rain world

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-slugcats-gif-2463767038369158224

[patent mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1089326594541224006/1103612329108721664/saint_speared_fast2.gif

[cosmic sigil]

@autumn smelt

[marble crater]

Damn

[cosmic sigil]

i was soloing a boss and 10 ragers

he was dead

[prime elk]

report them so fatshart does absolutely nothing

[marble crater]

Always the shitters who yap the most

Why? Because they are dead and have the time to type it all out

[cosmic sigil]

yeah that never works lol

[copper jay]

I'm doing tactical axe and revolver atm ... For masteries ...

[cosmic sigil]

tactical axe revolver on psyker is goated

[marble crater]

@cosmic sigilyou know, if you hadn't played tax and revolver he wouldn't have died, clearly your fault

[cosmic sigil]

true

[marble crater]

This is also why console players are less toxic, we can't type that fast

[cosmic sigil]

lmao

[tepid python]

taxe on psyker is fun 🥹

[brazen rampart]

Average recon vet.

[autumn lark]

The worst players yell the loudest

[cosmic sigil]

it is the worst interaction I've had since well, at least 2 years ago

[patent mango]

lmao

[tepid python]

"bruh" and leaves is the heaviest weight 😔

[patent mango]

vet needs a 2hander

[uncut sinew]

double shovel

[patent mango]

true

[tepid python]

big shovel

[uncut sinew]

a scythe

[autumn lark]

It would be extremely funny if vet gets a power axe

[patent mango]

true true

zealot already has both th and relic blade for fun weps vet needs smth

[prime elk]

wtf are you smoking. vet already has a bunch of 2handers. lasgun, iag, bolter, etc.

[patent mango]

lmao

[prime elk]

[patent mango]

equip bolter in both slots

[autumn lark]

Vet is so strong in melee and powersword got boring

So hopefully a 2 hander will mitigate that

[patent mango]

psword got boring in like 2 matches

[copper jay]

I think the only class who needs more is Orgryn 😭

[brazen rampart]

Psword needs a rework before vet gets a new melee.

Pretty simple to do, too.

[copper jay]

If they even reworks Obsucurus, they need to rework Psword

[brazen rampart]

Tweak adms and base damage of both charges and uncharged states. Charged state needs nerfed, uncharged state needs buffed.

Power cycler would need to be changed to accommodate the relic blades heat system.

Boom, done.

Oh also it needs a mobility buff.

But yeah, simple fix to psword to make it not boring and still good.

[brazen rampart]

Funny thing, obscurus is actually really good.

You can instakill a crusher with h1, l2, l3.

[prime elk]

sorry, best we can do is fix the losing charge on hit bug (and it's still not fixed)

[copper jay]

Yes now with the rework !

[brazen rampart]

Nope, the losing charge on psword is intended.

[copper jay]

I tried 👀

But the H2 Poke headshot on Deimos is way too fun 😭

[brazen rampart]

No, obscurus hasn't gotten a rework at all, it's a fine sword. It just got a secret l3 from h2 to make its horde clear better and it got a dodge buff.

Illisi also got a dodge buff.

[prime elk]

thought they said it's a bug

[brazen rampart]

It was a bug for other power weapons, the sword losing charge is intended.

[prime elk]

weird

[brazen rampart]

Like it was affecting hammer, crusher, etc.

[prime elk]

it's like they're doing everything possible to make it as janky as possible

[brazen rampart]

It's just in a really bad spot, mechanically, and is really boring.

[prime elk]

i don't think it's boring, but it's very annoying to play

[brazen rampart]

I think it's horrendously boring.

Activate, block cancel, swing 3 times, repeat, forever.

[prime elk]

that's more interaction than many weapons

and you've got the shit dodges to keep you on your toes

[patent mango]

psword is nearly shield tier of eepy

[autumn lark]

Powersword does have a fun moveset

[cosmic sigil]

Ogryn wants a duelling ... pole

[copper jay]

And the horde clear is way better or still a little lacking ?

[patent steeple]

btw, I feel like SG TDR augment is a decent thing for me to have on my FGS meleeker build, just because I have an easier time replenishing toughness while shot at with it compared to One with The Warp...

its kinda sad that I can't afford both, though...

[plucky flax]

Fs on track for 1 update per year

[patent mango]

all my games have 4 ogryns.... when do they nerf ogryn.....

[upper sun]

this week

AFFIRM!

[dull scroll]

is something actually coming soon™ or we huffing copium

[upper sun]

nah they mentioned getting a devblog early this month

so prolly anytime from now till monday well get something

[prime elk]

The one update this year

[patent steeple]

was it the art dev blog about the enemy designs, perhaps?

[upper sun]

idk

[marble crater]

No, we are getting news this week

About something

[upper sun]

news:news will be delayed

[marble crater]

Already got that news last week

[plucky flax]

Classic FartShart

[zealous mango]

Everytime you ask about news, it gets delayed by next millennium

[marble crater]

Ah, so like the Hell Arc in Bleach

[west smelt]

anyone wanna hop on a private game to do this?

[upbeat kestrel]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[wispy bay]

I can in about 10 min

@west smelt still need help?

[west smelt]

yah

[wispy bay]

Can you invite me since my FS code is on my name.

[marble crater]

If clad sees this you are cooked

[west smelt]

ty

[wispy bay]

Happy to help

[weary crane]

Nerf ogryn

[zealous mango]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-your-honor-my-client-nuh-uh-gif-11334700374005151603

[upper sun]

its ok im busy rn

[marble crater]

Lucky for them I guess

[marble crater]

You were busy last time too, you are slacking

[autumn smelt]

What difficulty
Where do I find these people

No one ever points out what I'm running ever

[queen fog]

I feel like it’s a matter of being lucky/unlucky enough to queue at the same time with them

Then you gotta have a build that they dislike in some fashion

could take forever to reasonably find one

[wispy bay]

The only time I complain is when I see people with 5 wounds in high difficulty, who gets down every 5 min.

[azure parcel]

Getting angry at shitters is just pointless

Or replying to them for that matter

[queen fog]

a lot of things done in rage usually are pointless, but curiosity killed the cat or however the saying goes

[marble crater]

Just play smite all the time, probably the highest success chance of getting flamed

[azure parcel]

I have actually never gotten flamed on Smyker

Maybe because I run bubble alongside

[marble crater]

[queen fog]

That’s a pretty funny deterrent, the off chance if they do shit talk the possibility of you not producing bubbles anymore

[wispy bay]

Not counting Martyr Zealot*

[nocturne dust]

Only time I got flamed for loadout was running knife zealot, and it was while I was the last surviving player.

[queen fog]

I guess dying does give a freehand to type up a storm

[azure parcel]

I just loathe stealth knife zealots in general because I've never had a good experience with one, but I don't go out of my way to shit talk them

Continuously waiting to be surprised

[patent mango]

just play 6 wound ogryn with club and ripper gun

[azure parcel]

Maybe one day I'll queue up with one who doesn't run half a mile ahead and aggros everything and lets the team drown under a tide of spawns

[nocturne dust]

I was FotF while they were calling me stealth 😭

[wispy bay]

They don't know about the I frame of FotF.

[nocturne dust]

I do like stealth tho, I just wish it was... more cooperative

like make it a smoke bomb that hides the whole team (in coherency) or something

[wispy bay]

I run tac axe stealth zealot, no one ever talk shit.

[autumn smelt]

Stealth in any form shouldn't exist in dt

[wispy bay]

Loner aura should be removed.

[cosmic sigil]

Auric HiSG. I spawned with 2 people already dead and a bon running around. I had to kite and almost got the bon until i was melee stunned and eaten

[wispy bay]

It is peak anti coop aura.

[nocturne dust]

Nah, a teamwide stealth is fine

[autumn smelt]

That is drastically worse

[nocturne dust]

It's literally just VoC but worse, mate

[cosmic sigil]

honestly should i report him?

or maybe not, i told him to go die

[plucky flax]

You can but nothing will be done.

So...

[nocturne dust]

They have a single guy monitoring reports so they can say they looked at them

[cosmic sigil]

he probably did not have true lvl lol

[patent mango]

they only ban if a gunlugger sent the report

[upper sun]

give zealot a taunt NOW

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie wanna play? No monster maelstrom silo though.

The hardest one is probably 21st shock troop silo

[summer prairie]

What's available then?

Ok

[plucky flax]

Is it _07 shocktroop?

[brazen rampart]

Imagine if you could do A-I-II with moebians...

[summer prairie]

_07 should be hi shock

[plucky flax]

What build you wanna play?

[summer prairie]

maybe rending trauma for that

[plucky flax]

I go stealth loner zealot meme

Without duelist

[summer prairie]

got to try non-macro empyric shock EK surge for monster maelstorm some time, it might be pretty good with 2 psykers at least. It's +34% multiplicative monster warp damage buff for both

[plucky flax]

Does it buff burga soulblaze damage?

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

Okay might be good

[loud girder]

what prompted him to go apeshit did the game go south and he's blaming it on you?

this is unhinged

[cosmic sigil]

Well he was dead and I was kiting the boss and dealing with ragers and stuff as well

I just QP during the clusterfuck lmao

[marble crater]

The real reason of course is that unhappy people take their frustration out on strangers on the internet and in games

People who are happy don't rage at strangers

[upper sun]

@brazen rampart deathblow absolutely does not work on maulers

[loud girder]

dies
insults the guy trying to clutch

crazy

[marble crater]

Worst thing ever, meanwhile your team shutting up and then praising you after the clutch is one of the best things ever in the game

[cosmic sigil]

If he left, the bot would have been useful tbh

[cosmic sigil]

You sure? I thought it was only on crushers

[upper sun]

i have evidence....

[cosmic sigil]

That's quite true actually

I do miss Oce servers. Almost nobody would have pulled that shit here. Enjoy being blacklisted by the other 50 auric players lol

[marble crater]

[loud girder]

this guy is pure entertainment i wouldnt block

i want more people like this

[vernal temple]

how the fuck this this even happen? dude ran forward, turned off the alarm, door closed with the 3 of us stuck in the corridor, he got ganked

[patent mango]

lmao

[marble crater]

Not even a zealot, truly impressive

[patent mango]

fail condition outside rolling steel dropped

[marble crater]

Good, you can keep them I block all the toxic people and speedrunners

[nocturne dust]

Gib

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1346564496231235757/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.03.04_-_20.12.41.02-00.03.46.455-00.04.08.482.mp4?ex=67c8a569&is=67c753e9&hm=8902f6e94d74156c1519d69298b0cfa6b89ac5f198a909c3db621af8f6e30bed&

[patent mango]

epic heavy sword gameplay

[loud girder]

bro i had someone making demonic ass noises everytime he went down and screaming cyka blyat

he went down 10 times

this is peak

[nocturne dust]

[marble crater]

When that happens I create my own party chat on xbox

[upper sun]

worst one i had was some child crying that he kept dying

[loud girder]

this game has people below age of 25?

cuhrazy taxi

[upper sun]

ikr i was shocked too

[marble crater]

Heavy sword against armor is the saddest thing I have seen today

[narrow herald]

Funniest guy I met just kept talking about female Custodians 💀

[upper sun]

thats why you use headtaker thrust

[upbeat kestrel]

flak i serviceble carapce is trash

[upper sun]

i just did one game on deathblow thrust to test it

[nocturne dust]

I can post dclaw heavies against cara

[marble crater]

I have a better idea, I'm not going to use it at all

[nocturne dust]

Wait I can't

I deleted that vid from this device

[pliant sage]

I made a psyker build from scratch and this thing FUCKS.

I have been using it in auric maelstroms a few times and it does shockingly well

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e5a8b5e-a252-45fe-b0af-48cdcedbe5a4/bubble-storm

[nocturne dust]

The God Emperor made female Custodes to test people like them 🙏

[marble crater]

Ah shockingly well, I get it, because you use the EK staff

[pliant sage]

I will never understand the complaints about fem custodes cause their creation procsess is so much more different then regular space marines 😭

[nocturne dust]

It looks like a build

[pliant sage]

so true ty ty

[narrow herald]

"it doesn't make sense to the lore" 🤓

Me: "muscle mommies are based"

[nocturne dust]

Imperium of Woman would've been an improvement

[marble crater]

Looks good overall, are you open to feedback?

[upbeat kestrel]

counter point

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-tts-ending-warhammer-40k-gif-238833891737651337

[marble crater]

[upbeat kestrel]

images are loading so i dont see anything

[marble crater]

Lucky

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/mouxy-cotorep-aveugle-debile-esquiver-gif-20546128

[patent mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/291184728944410624/1184463723721658368/5399laptop.gif

[pliant sage]

Absolutely

Bubble storm has become one of my favorite psyker builds recently

[pliant sage]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-yes-sir-oorah-oorah-marine-twerk-army-gif-22931251

[narrow herald]

Adeptus Mechanicus is a trans aligory, change my mind

[marble crater]

I would change Wildfire and Warp Expenditure to Mettle and Perfect Timing, Wildfire won't do much as it's not a soulblaze build and Warp Expen is not great

[nocturne dust]

The meta thing to do would be to dump warp res on a force sword, drop warp expenditure and essence harvest to get mettle and perfect timing

[pliant sage]

Hm alright alright

I do rarely profit from the fire tbh, I just used it for chip dmg

[pliant sage]

I rarely use the sword tbh

It's a like 'Oh shit! Peril is too high to use staff! Lemme stab someone while it cools off'

[nocturne dust]

My personal taste, I would go for Kinetic Deflection. You should probably at least grab the crit node above it, and drop a BB node (Kinetic Resonance) while you're at it

BB doesn't have use outside of KF when combined with EK staff

[marble crater]

That's what I do as well, but maybe he loves spamming BB and I won't stand in the way of that

[nocturne dust]

Again, just giving meta suggestions

[narrow herald]

Meta this meta that

[nocturne dust]

Meta is all that matters

[narrow herald]

Have any of you met a girl before?

[nocturne dust]

[charred cipher]

any easy way to get the 40 kills in scryers? im assuming fire staff with quell on kill?

[nocturne dust]

At least once

[narrow herald]

Literally press the button then rip and tear

[nocturne dust]

Press button, kill horde

Play on high difficulty with thicc horde

[charred cipher]

figured was easy only got 2 left keep coming up a bit short lol

[nocturne dust]

[upbeat kestrel]

welp mostly play off meta in DT

touched plasma exactly once

[autumn smelt]

Tactical axe (bm/ht), kinetic deflection, by crack of bone
Push attack > heavy spam

[wispy bay]

Just get all of the quelling nodes then use the illisi or FGS and spam into the horde.

[autumn smelt]

Unironically

[nocturne dust]

That sounds like a hard method

[autumn smelt]

It's piss easy

[narrow herald]

Sometimes I'm killing soo much that my schiers just stays around 20 peril for like 3 minutes ☠️

[nocturne dust]

Imagine having to run at enemies when you can just delete them from a distance

[autumn smelt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1343897817621463053/1346048700023308369/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-02-24_7-14-02_PM.mp4?ex=67c8168a&is=67c6c50a&hm=98239e4dde0eb19f971ce257a3af17fed58308a4bcf9e18925e92ef6f5501eb1&

moebian 21st

[nocturne dust]

Max easy is probably some peril resist stacking nonsense with inferno

[nocturne dust]

Yeah that seems like a lot of work

[narrow herald]

I HATE SCRIERS FLAME STAFF

I HATE SCRIERS FLAME STAFF

[nocturne dust]

[autumn smelt]

That penance would have been completed nearly 3x in 1 cast of scriers

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-gif-27342590

[autumn smelt]

And all I did was pa>heavy spam and throw an assail every now and again

Despite ragers being in the mix

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-yo-stupid-gif-19991709

Poor trapper

[nocturne dust]

Heck of a lot more work than literally Inferno

[pliant sage]

Honestly no idea why I had the faster burst time I never use it.

Force of habit probably

[autumn smelt]

I wish scriers purg staff a very cleave target cap

[patent mango]

oh my god i met a toxic ogryn

my 2nd one so far lmao

i think i censored all names

wait no

[ornate hamlet]

brother goes around joining H40s with his scrier gaze lasgun build and expects people to be nice to him

fuck you @patent mango

[nocturne dust]

I wish Fatshark a very balanced cleave, but we don't get what we wish for

[narrow herald]

There are 2 kinds of Ogryns

The absolutely cracked at the game who don't say a word and carry everyone

Or this

[patent mango]

now i censored all names

[narrow herald]

No inbetween

[autumn smelt]

It is very funny tho watching as I double a purg users damage with the tactical axe

[queen fog]

strikedown attacks go brrrr

[patent mango]

funniest thing

[narrow herald]

OK so the elephant in the room

[nocturne dust]

I get being angry about non-meta picks in h40... I don't agree with it, but I get it... until the guy being angry happens to be a freaking ogryn 💀

[narrow herald]

Does Gun Psyker work in h40? 🤔

[queen fog]

depends how much ammo u wanna burn

[patent mango]

he also like complained in vc a lot unsure if i can post that

[nocturne dust]

It does, it's just off meta and a selfish pick

[ornate hamlet]

guys it was me

im the toxic ogryn in question

and id do it again

@patent mango fuck you

[narrow herald]

Dam 😔

[ornate hamlet]

are we ignoring the fact that you joined a havoc 40 with SG and lasgun just to have lowest dmg?

[patent mango]

its defo pretty rare

[nocturne dust]

Especially if you take scrier's, you are not bubbling your team

[ornate hamlet]

like how are you going to play the victim when youre actively trolling runs

[nocturne dust]

so it's extremely selfish and just a worse vet for h40

[ornate hamlet]

me when i act in a way that makes people mad and they get mad

[queen fog]

no bubble in havoc? i can understand a little on how doppio's feeling

[patent mango]

we had 1 bubble

[queen fog]

only 1?

[ornate hamlet]

like seriously bro, i know dt players have mental illnesses, but this warudo guy is to the max

[patent mango]

ya

[narrow herald]

I mean I feel like this should have been a convo B4 the game started 💀

[ornate hamlet]

it was

i asked him to swap

and he didnt

hes a clown

and a bum

[narrow herald]

Was this PUBS?

[marble crater]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/trolls-gif-18817256

[ornate hamlet]

please mind your own business

[upbeat kestrel]

Doppio shut up and calm yourselg before we call higher powers

[nocturne dust]

no

[queen fog]

its less trolling and him being upset

[narrow herald]

Average Tanner fan

[ornate hamlet]

youre so cringe

[patent mango]

its kinda weird but whatever

[ornate hamlet]

pathetic

[upbeat kestrel]

Yep

[autumn smelt]

Lol
I brought a tac axe scriers psyker to havoc and did more damage than everyone combined
Just sucks that melee psyker has no concept of self sustain in the skill tree

[clear heath]

what is happening?

[patent mango]

uh a dude got mad at me for going gunker

[nocturne dust]

I have literally never seen a sentence out of this guy that isn't bait or trolling

It's trolling

[narrow herald]

We getting reverse sniped 😔

[ornate hamlet]

top 5 nerd emoji statements 🤓

[marble crater]

Drama, go bring your popcorn

[ornate hamlet]

anyways i have things to do with my life

[buoyant maple]

Cap inferno to 5 enemies hit per tick, random spread across all enemies staggered by fire (jk)

[clear heath]

🍿

[narrow herald]

I out damaged 2 inferno Psykers as a Vet and got true survivor

[queen fog]

this might be how they just act online, given i havent seen much of his messages

[patent mango]

well that was a funny first havoc game for today

[upbeat kestrel]

What youre saying pictures completely different image

[narrow herald]

Did u win? 🤔

[nocturne dust]

As long as we cap everything else to 0 cleave, fair

[autumn smelt]

Scriers haters when I tell them that scriers also works with your melee too

[nocturne dust]

[ornate hamlet]

arent you the one in this discord 24/7? holy shit get a life and stop thinking about me all the time

[buoyant maple]

Nah, everything else except VB is same

Keep VB the same 5 targets

[patent mango]

naww

[pliant sage]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-pissi-twitch-7tv-gif-7223094372649290081

Why this bro seething 😔

[nocturne dust]

Bro didn't notice I haven't been here for weeks 💀

[patent mango]

seriously i think this guy is just either ragebaiting or had a really bad day

[ornate hamlet]

me when the sg lasgun psyker has the lowest dmg

[pliant sage]

Angry enough to make a world eater look reasonable

[ornate hamlet]

how would we have won?

[narrow herald]

Idk play better

[buoyant maple]

[ornate hamlet]

honestly fair point

damn

anyways

im done typing

[pliant sage]

smart choice yeah

[ornate hamlet]

hope you all have a better day and life than warudo

[narrow herald]

Are you? I'm just getting started

[queen fog]

i would comment on this game being used for enjoyment purposes but this is a high havoc situation

[upbeat kestrel]

Good riddence

[pliant sage]

Cool off or smth, I don't think Warudo is going to even care LMAO

[patent mango]

my day is going fine lol

im mostly waiting for devblog

[nocturne dust]

I want thammer for psyker

[patent mango]

probably not today?? idk fatshark

[pliant sage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1092566487484604476/SlapOfOg.gif

[nocturne dust]

Force hammer when

[pliant sage]

Force hammer on ogryn actually

[patent mango]

its fine toxic people r rare

[nocturne dust]

But I don't want to play heavy spam 😭

[upbeat kestrel]

Ogryn on force hammer

[patent mango]

so its not like terrible or anything

[marble crater]

It's 9pm, so no probably not today

[patent mango]

true

[narrow herald]

This is the real reason Darktide is dead

😔

[pliant sage]

I have met the occasional toxic people in DT, most toxic people I see here just seethe and stuff

[nocturne dust]

It's not 9 PM

[elder pasture]

I’ve seen it happen even in heresy damnation I think some people just got their panties in a bunch no matter what

[young cliff]

What's the word of your beloved? Is the hammer for PC ogryn or new enemy type?

[nocturne dust]

I mean heresy is cancerous

[patent mango]

no drama to entertain people.........

[marble crater]

It is in the only timezone that matters

[upbeat kestrel]

Meeting a toxic ogryn is a experience

[pliant sage]

I had someone be silent an entire game, drop down and I was clearing enemies so I could like, you know, safely pick him up.

apperently I wasn't fast enough

so he speaks just to call me a slur, then leaves

[nocturne dust]

Heresy is where bad players go to pretend they're good and rage against the team when they still fail

[pliant sage]

like bro 💀

I was like seconds away from picking you up...

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn gets hammer
Zealot (& veteran?) get power axe

Highly doubt power axe will be available for psyker

[nocturne dust]

I want to get a team of cancerous people together and seem them tear at each other

[marble crater]

Psyker gets the old staff names back

[upbeat kestrel]

Berserk psyker intensifies

[narrow herald]

Think about, this is the reason why HD2 did soo well

[nocturne dust]

we better get a staff 😤

[buoyant maple]

Psyker deserves no new weapons until inferno and VB get target capped

[upbeat kestrel]

DARKTIDE social credit sysyem

[young cliff]

We confirm Ogreen has hammer with the power and not the heretics with new toy?

[nocturne dust]

Vet is just jealous

[buoyant maple]

3 hammers for ogryn

[patent mango]

oh my god

the lore

[buoyant maple]

Yea I’d rly like >4.5 good melee weapons for veteran tbh

[young cliff]

Make fire no cleave caparace but deal good damage as it cooks them in their armour

[nocturne dust]

Again, Psyker has about the same amount and so does Zealot. Ogryn has it worse.

[narrow herald]

Me streaming a h40 tripling everyone's damage: 0 viewers

Meanwhile:

[pliant sage]

my ass is NOT watching nurgles favorite champion dawg

[buoyant ore]

lmao at the toxic ogryn guy

[autumn smelt]

Ds
Tac axe
Shovel
Power sword
Heavy sword
Knife
Certainly more than 4.5

@buoyant maple

[buoyant maple]

I think psyker has more variety given more variants within the same weapon family are good

[autumn smelt]

Almost all variants are good in this group

[nocturne dust]

I disagree because Vet also gets some variants that are plenty viable

as much as Psyker's

[buoyant maple]

Tac axe and shovel are not at the same level as Rashad on veteran unfortunately

They’re fun, but they need more

[narrow herald]

I disagree because Psyker exists

[autumn smelt]

Oh I forgot Rashad that's 7
And antax is up there too mostly just cuz BM literally still exists

[nocturne dust]

That's because Rashad is like absurdly strong on vet

Psyker's Rashad ain't no Vet Rashad

[buoyant maple]

Rashad is strong across the board and needs some changes

[nocturne dust]

Right, but it's definitely stronger with Vet

[buoyant maple]

That doesn’t change tac axe and shovel being mid on veteran

[autumn smelt]

Is it "these weapons need more because they are underpowered" or "these weapons need more cuz they aren't as OP as the OP weapons"

[patent mango]

i dont think i've even blocked anyone before this

[buoyant ore]

i only have a small handful blocked

[patent mango]

its suuuper rare

[autumn smelt]

Because I'm seeing it as the latter

[young cliff]

Even measured against average some weapons are underwhelming

[buoyant maple]

I think tax axe 7 is the closest to reach top tier

[summer prairie]

game too hard, time to retire

[buoyant maple]

Shovel much further

[autumn smelt]

But these ones I'm talking about aren't underwhelming compared to average

[patent steeple]

I haven't blocked anyone here yet, because I haven't gotten offended by anyone here yet...

[elder pasture]

I am feeling like it is somewhere in between

[buoyant maple]

When u factor into veteran’s stamina management problems suddenly every weapon that relies super heavily on push attacks is comparatively worse than they really are

[elder pasture]

I feel like DS4 can handle a small nerf

[autumn smelt]

A HUGE nerf

[elder pasture]

And everything else can be buffed to carrying degrees

[nocturne dust]

Just grab both regen delay nodes

[elder pasture]

Yeah, but people will get mad

[young cliff]

Yeah, DS4 can live by becoming an actual toothpick that breaks on caparace

[nocturne dust]

Shredder moment

[buoyant maple]

That’s directly trading utility / breakpoint / dps talents and unfortunately veteran has ranged breakpoints to think about unlike psyker

[patent mango]

shredder is so sad

[autumn smelt]

Even a huge nerf to ds4 won't put it at that level let alone remove it as a top pick

[patent mango]

i keep trying it just to get disappointed

[upper sun]

buff ironhelm thammer

[patent steeple]

hang on... are you talking about Taxe or Caxe? and also, could you please specify the reason why Rashad is very strong on vet? I would like to learn more...

[elder pasture]

I just want the best melee weapons to be the chain and power weapons lol

[nocturne dust]

Hard doubt

[elder pasture]

like, if they slowed its movement when you’re charging a heavy?

[autumn smelt]

A piss easy to use weapon that is extremely safe and can deal with everything will still be a top pick even if it stops being the best at said everything

[nocturne dust]

Vet has talents that allow Caxe to be stronger than it normally is by hitting absurd breakpoints to easily clobber even crushers in moments without crits

[buoyant maple]

For veteran, it’s:
#1 horde clear
#3 monster dps
#2 mixed horde
Much better safety than power sword
Doesn’t gimp your dodges

[plucky flax]

This is a blocked message.

[nocturne dust]

Sure. And if it gets hit with a hard nerf it's not going to be that

[patent mango]

i mean in gam

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

Like, if ds4 took 10 hits to kill elites it would be undeniably trash

[elder pasture]

Yeah

[young cliff]

Taxe is fast but it's combat loop can be quite unsafe, shovel time to kill is meh eve if it's cc is good, PS damage is amazing but it's slow in a game where that's a defining factor of safety, heavy sword doesn't feel that good in my small experience and knife is the second best weapon behind DS

[patent mango]

smol cara/unyiel nerf is the most common suggestion i think

[buoyant maple]

Tac axe is really safe

[summer prairie]

not a small cara nerf

[autumn smelt]

You're blowing "hard nerf" out of proportion
A huge reduction on its finesse damage would still one shot most elites

[buoyant maple]

It’s just <0.5 of combat axe’s carapace & unyielding dps

[elder pasture]

I think I’m honestly more interested in buffing the other weapons than nerfing the DS

[patent mango]

guh?

[buoyant maple]

Rashad light attack is ~same damage as tac heavy atk vs unyielding

[elder pasture]

if people don’t get a “replacement” if ds4 gets nerfed. There will be riots

[young cliff]

That extra time trying to deal with heavy armour enemies can be a gate to things going poorly, but it can be worked somewhat imo

[patent mango]

thats always been knife

[buoyant maple]

If tac axe had much better carapace & unyielding damage then it’ll replace HS9 as veteran’s top 5 best melee

[autumn smelt]

See here's the issue
You can't balance based on armor types
It has uncanny
All armor type balancing is thrown out of the window

[summer prairie]

people already got replacements

[jovial juniper]

(they buffed chain axe 12 move speed on heavies) 💀

[elder pasture]

Ugh I hate knife too lol

[patent mango]

man

[nocturne dust]

You're being selective with the nerf here, yes, finesse damage could be nerfed to 0 and it would still fair pretty well (because it can bodyshot quite a number of enemies) but the nerf could be to attack speed, reach, base damage, or movement speed.

[patent mango]

idk how uncanny works with adms

[elder pasture]

just buff the great swords and thunder hammers

[narrow herald]

Knife:

[autumn lark]

uncanny nerf to 50% at the 4th tier

[buoyant maple]

Too little too soft

20% at full stacks, melee rending only

[autumn lark]

40%

[buoyant maple]

Too little too soft

[narrow herald]

Remove DS from the game

[autumn lark]

im sticking to 40

[autumn smelt]

You could make ds4 heavies have a 0.05 adm against carapace and it would still be the best weapon in the game because uncanny with only a few stacks would already make it back to being better than everything in the game

[buoyant maple]

40% is way too much

[patent mango]

remove uncanny from ds is the easy solution ig

[summer prairie]

not like the other weapons should have it either

[buoyant maple]

Nah, would have to be a multitude of nerfs

[nocturne dust]

they should just stop letting blessings affect anything other than damage from the specific weapon

[plucky flax]

Why so much cry about ds4 just remove it from zealot and vet.

[autumn smelt]

Can't do that
It exists on people's weapons already

[plucky flax]

They still have op knives.

[buoyant maple]

That’s gonna break the code even more

[patent mango]

oh lol

[nocturne dust]

Story of Fatshark's life

[autumn smelt]

It's already in people's inventories

[young cliff]

Game can't launch because it was depending on DS4 being OP

[summer prairie]

change it to some collectible training sword

[elder pasture]

Fuck these toothpicks buff power weapons chain weapons and great swords

[plucky flax]

It's FS fault for letting other classes in on our weapon.

[summer prairie]

0 damage but cool looking

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-gone-reduced-to-atoms-gif-26539274

[plucky flax]

They need to take it back!

[autumn smelt]

Like once a major addition is added to the game
It's there and it's staying and we can't do anything to change it

[narrow herald]

Just replace them all with a lacerate punch knife

[nocturne dust]

Nerf dueling sword to the ground and then introduce totally-new™️ Force Dueling Sword that has same stats and combos as old dueling sword

[plucky flax]

People can go back to crying about zealot and op knife rather than zealot and op ds4+knife

[elder pasture]

I’m listening

[narrow herald]

Knife:

[autumn smelt]

No
It's still too strong on psyker already in its current form

[nocturne dust]

That's how Fatshark balances anyway

[plucky flax]

Knife been OP since launch btw no nerf

[nocturne dust]

Nerf current meta while introducing new, stronger meta

[analog agate]

Both deimos and obscurus are fine replacements for dsiv

[upper sun]

give deimos looping heavy2s and delete ds4 from the game idc

[elder pasture]

those are the force GS right?

[autumn smelt]

Like people who say "it's fine on psyker cuz they don't use it as well" are missing the point about the fact that even disregarding any talents the weapon is too strong innately

[elder pasture]

Yeaaaa do THAT

[clear heath]

remove all it's damage

[autumn lark]

ds4 is the strongest on psyker

[clear heath]

purely decorative sword

[upper sun]

what is duelist

[nocturne dust]

not a chance

[patent mango]

psyker uses it quite well

[nocturne dust]

Both Vet and Zealot use it far better

[autumn smelt]

Offensively, all classes use it just as well when building into it

[plucky flax]

I think it's nicer on vet.

[autumn lark]

psyker has some of the strongest melee boosting stuff ingame😌

[autumn smelt]

Defensively zealot uses it the best but that's just zealot being free for melee

[autumn lark]

might even outclass duelist

[nocturne dust]

Zealot has duelist, and it turns out the guy who does breakpoints really well (vet) is really good with a weapon that has great breakpoints

[young cliff]

Honestly make the weapon slow, why a weapon that needs a posture style of fencing that is not favourable to run around is the speedster weapon AND crusher killer over THammer?

[upper sun]

wow using the weakspot weapon while picking the weakspot talents on psyker results in damage 🤯

[elder pasture]

I feel like… DS4 can succeed without a class lol

[young cliff]

Keep dodges but make it hard to run around

[clear heath]

People also forget that the same patch that gave ds4 to everyone also buffed our melee builds
Psykers also got stronger with it

[autumn smelt]

That's the problem

[buoyant maple]

DS whole purpose on veteran is a high mobility carapace poking stick with zero talent investment lmfao

[nocturne dust]

si

[buoyant maple]

That’s it that’s the only thing it exists for on veteran

[clear heath]

they gave us malefic buffing nonwarp and disrupt destiny got buffed in usability 3 fucking times in a row
Our melee builds have gotten stronger

[young cliff]

So DS is basically Branx for ogryn?

[autumn smelt]

It is already too strong even before talents are factored in
Then you have amazing talents on all classes that can use it making it even stronger

[elder pasture]

Yeah someone go do an auric+ and empty your skill tree

[buoyant maple]

No, branx at least kills hordes (even though not the best at it)

[patent mango]

naww branx is slow

[upper sun]

if its op on every class then how come it wasnt mentioned ANYWHERE before it was given to zealot and vet

[patent mango]

and has annoying recovery times

[nocturne dust]

so true

[buoyant maple]

And branx has -0.2m/s sprint speed penalty for OGRYN

[autumn smelt]

Yeah let's make the safest weapon in the game also the best at killing every threat in the game in the quickest, easiest, and safest way possible with basically no investment

[clear heath]

As i just said, psyker also got buffed for melee builds on that exact patch

[autumn smelt]

On EVERY FUCKING CLASS

[upper sun]

copium

[nocturne dust]

Nobody ever said Dueling Sword would be strong on other classes, especially not me. 😇

[young cliff]

I mean, most ogreen weapons are slow as molasses

[buoyant maple]

Karsolas is +0.13m/s and is the strongest offensive melee on ogryn

[upper sun]

people tend to project general balance issues on the current flavor of the patch weapon before ds4 it was rashad

[patent mango]

even knife on ogryn is pretty slow

[upper sun]

now no one is talking about rashad

[young cliff]

And can deal with caparace with heavy loop almost as fast

[upper sun]

before rashad it was knife now no one is talking about knives

[nocturne dust]

Every nail that sticks out gets hit with a hammer

[buoyant maple]

Rashad was never that popular

[upper sun]

every vet i see now has a rashad

or a ds4

[autumn smelt]

Rashad was always popular since it got fixed what are you smoking

[buoyant maple]

Before DS4 introduction u had to gamble for 0.000001% chance to get a godroll

[patent mango]

gambling!!!

[upper sun]

you mean the maniac heavy damage?

even before that

[nocturne dust]

Oh no, not old crafting discussions

[young cliff]

Me and my power sword : shame for them they don't know what is good

[autumn smelt]

I mean the fact that it's actual attacks hit properly

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[autumn smelt]

In like early 2023

[upper sun]

peesword is boring

[buoyant maple]

I’ve seen a collective total of 2 people (that’s not me or my friends) using Rashad since U&L dropped

One was a zealot that put limbsplitter on it

[nocturne dust]

psword suuuuuuuuuucccckkkkkkkssss (personal opinion)

[buoyant maple]

The other ran martyr Rashad

[young cliff]

Is fine, you can be wrong and I would still cover your back fellow reject

[nocturne dust]

wtf

[autumn smelt]

And your argument was "Rashad has never been popular"
And are referring only to the update that power crept it and not the large amount of time before

[plucky flax]

I ran a stealth loner martyrdom rashad just now.

[nocturne dust]

Literally every 3rd Vet I run into has Rashad

It's rashad, shovel, or dueling sword

[young cliff]

Ppl use shovel because Kriegs experience