psyker-class

[young falcon]

Well, mettle does the work but it lets me just stand there

[fringe garden]

The nice thing with this setup is you can put Unstable Power and.. Shred or something on the FGS and let Warp Splitting take care of the cleave

the FGS is a monster with all of that

[shrewd phoenix]

its hilariously strong

[fringe garden]

Not to mention assail weaving while melee'ing is easy

[shrewd phoenix]

oh my god yeah I recently ran a scriers gase gun psyker and that damn EE against hordes of gunners is just pure bliss

[fringe garden]

No need to waste special sword attacks to charge peril with Assail at your disposal

[shrewd phoenix]

Blending assail into combos to keep the perils for FGS sounds sick

[fringe garden]

It also is visually dope

[young falcon]

Mowing hordes is neuron activation though. I mostly use to stagger ragers.

[fringe garden]

Just swirling psychic blades around you as you go to town

I mean just to save up the special bar

And use it at those most opportune moments

[young falcon]

You can get some nutty peril off low warp res swords.

[fringe garden]

Oh, no doubt. That's always the play

[young falcon]

Like 23 warp res is like 50% peril off one special or something dumb like that

[shrewd phoenix]

No joke I didn't even consider burning FGS and FS specials to build perils for Warp Splitting

[fringe garden]

Yep yep

[shrewd phoenix]

I only used right click assail for it since it was super fast peril gen

[fringe garden]

Warp Res should always be the dump stat on FGS because it is literally beneficial

[shrewd phoenix]

That's insane yeah I have always been dumping it because you never use the special attack that often where its a problem but I see the vision now

[fringe garden]

About to engage a group in melee after running a few seconds so your peril is gone? open with a special

or two

Side benefit of staggering the group of enemies as you slide in to melee range

All that being said, Dueling Sword is probably better overall. But I'd rather be cool than king, lol

[shrewd phoenix]

Yeah I think I said earlier that I keep getting told to just use GS since it has it all but its just... not that much fun in the grand scheme of it all

I like my force shove and high cleave sounds filling my headphones

[fringe garden]

Amen. We're psykers, damnit. We should be flashy and badass.

[shrewd phoenix]

ill leave the fencing to the zealot and his guarenteed crits

ill test out the build when I do hop on it seems like a good time

[patent jacinth]

My dumb ass running tac axe laspistol scriers

(It’s actually peak build)

[shrewd phoenix]

all you need is Warp Speed and every cooldown you disappear across the entire map

Bro disrupt destiny warp speed with like a combat blade is just hilarious

seeing a psyker travel twice as fast as a zealot is comedy

[radiant frigate]

combat blade 🤢

[young falcon]

knoifes are ok sometimes. As a treat.

[radiant frigate]

not force and not greatsword

garbage weapon

[wooden sand]

Looks like sparkheads here aren't satisfied with their weapons

Do you want to become ogryn 2?

[radiant frigate]

no i just hate knife

love force bigsword

[wooden sand]

Give to me then

[radiant frigate]

here 🗡️

go, do some sneak-scheming

[wooden sand]

Also you need to forge it so it can become 10 times bigger

So I can use it

[icy breach]

They look like rayman but with no shoes

[wind falcon]

Is smite good?

[icy breach]

Its a tool and thus it has its purpose; i hope that was as neutral as possible

[wind falcon]

Its neutral but not helpful

[jovial juniper]

Yes if you spec into it
Otherwise is just a turn off the game button

(derogatory)

[elder pasture]

lol

Anyone have a good rec for psyker builds? Someone who has multiple good ones on games lantern maybe?

[analog agate]

Ask what weapon you want to use and someone here will give you a build

[patent jacinth]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e477e30-624d-48a3-b54a-8097ca8a4145/simply-just-a-little-tac-axe-psyker?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Woe

[elder pasture]

Voidblast staff?

[patent jacinth]

Peak shit be apon ye

[elder pasture]

Ah ty

[patent jacinth]

Pa->heavy loop versus horde/small elites

Light spam versus carapace

Laspistol for bulwarks and reapers

Laspistol for bosses

Pop scriers whenever you see more than like 20 enemies its uptime is insane

[analog agate]

That is blaze VB build

[wind falcon]

Does it require like a full build or just the associated skills with it?

[patent mango]

ohh my god

the chat broke again i thought that was fixed

[marble crater]

Jokes on you

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-csgo-phoon-gif-2064757889844296086

im gonna go through an entire havoc mission with my chat broken

clearly they wont tell me anything important

[patent jacinth]

You can literally just run it and hold left and right click all mission and annihilate all fun from orbit

[patent mango]

clearly

[patent jacinth]

A build is optional

[wind falcon]

You mean with assail right?

[weary crane]

What's max stacks of soulblaze from trauma, 16 aswell?

[patent jacinth]

Assail has actual complexity like charges and the ability to kill yourself

[wind falcon]

You can kill yourself with smite, its just crazy hard

[patent jacinth]

A full spec’d assail build is required for it to break shit

Smite just breaks everything if you channel it at all

[wind falcon]

Tbf the damage is crazy low

[patent jacinth]

It doesn’t matter if it does damage

Nothing can move

And you can build it to do damage anyway

[wind falcon]

Sounds balanced

As all things should be

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/goxBEVThlqP.gif

empowered psionics needs to buff assail further

and bb needs buffs in general

smite needs uh.........

[brazen rampart]

No it doesn't.

[patent mango]

sogged

[brazen rampart]

50% damage buff, doesn't consume darts on ep throws, no peril gen.

It's already nuts.

[wind falcon]

It is kinda nuts

[patent mango]

i feel like even assail builds just take dd lol

but idk ep is kinda rare in general

[brazen rampart]

Lumii swears by ep for assail because he's a big stinker but doesn't realize that he can't deal with armor as fast as I can and my shooter racism is more effective than his.

[wind falcon]

Ep can't be that bad

[brazen rampart]

At 15 stacks, dd actually makes assail do more damage per dart, btw.

[brazen rampart]

Oh don't get me wrong, it's not bad, dd is just better.

Ep makes you rely heavily on assail and you'll want to take assail aux nodes. Dd doesn't need assail aux nodes and you use your weapons more than your darts.

[marble crater]

Less, 8 maybe?

[wind falcon]

So ep is bad for the other two abilities?

[brazen rampart]

The tradeoff here is ep allows you to delete a horde way faster than dd, but you won't be killing armor nearly as fast.

[brazen rampart]

No, it's fine for both of the other two. Smite gets significantly less peril gen and brain burst can pop ogryns easier and will oneshot any elite that isn't an ogryn or mauler.

The problem with it is, is it encourages smite to be used wrong and bb doesn't scale well for endgame content.

[wind falcon]

Smite doesn't get -peril gen

At least it doesn't say so

In the description

[near gale]

it gets 3x damage so you deal 3x the damage at the cost of the same amount of peril

[upper galleon]

smite is gets damage from EP

[brazen rampart]

Oh I misremembered, oops.

[clear heath]

I think maybe it used to?

[patent mango]

next update they give smite a cd

[brazen rampart]

It still encourages players to use smite wrong.

[wind falcon]

It gives faster spread

Which seems eh

[brazen rampart]

If you use smite for damage, the rest of your team should legally be able to barrel you.

The intended use is to grab a bunch of stuff and throw it to the floor.

Ep encourages you to just grab and hold, which ruins gameplay loops for other people.

[near gale]

meanwhile people are busy complaining about how mods ruin the gameplay loop for them because they are basically cheats(in their eyes) >.>'

[clear heath]

If i see someone spamming smite, i just run to the other side of the map

[brazen rampart]

"Basically cheats" when 90% of mods are strictly client side cosmetics or do things that the game should have as base features.

[clear heath]

clearly they have all the enemies near them handled anyways...

[patent mango]

mods are cheating like cmon i get to make my buff bar actually work properly thats crazy

[brazen rampart]

Spidey sense absolutely should be base game.

Same with danger zone.

[near gale]

spidey sense wouldn't be as good if the specials ALL PROPERLY MADE SOUNDS

[patent mango]

even crushers dont

[weary idol]

I mean technically when the audio works it does

[north tartan]

Where do you get mods for DT anyways

[clear heath]

I don't use either of those two mods but i don't mind that other people do

[patent mango]

wnexus or modding discord

[brazen rampart]

Nexus.

[near gale]

nexus

[north tartan]

Aight, wanted to check

[brazen rampart]

Modding discord also has some stuff but most stuff is iffy from there.

[clear heath]

i think danger zone showing bursters through walls is a little bit cheesy but whatever

[elder pasture]

Ty

[brazen rampart]

The only thing I grabbed from the modding discord is weapon customization because the version on nexus doesn't work on the greatswords.

[brazen rampart]

There are several areas where bursters will spawn and not tick, though, so idgaf if it's cheesy.

You know chasm station? The assassination one?

[north tartan]

Def gonna get weapon customization

And prob true level

[clear heath]

yeah bursters are buggy af so whatever

no mercy on them

[near gale]

silent bursters have been a thing for so long lol

[brazen rampart]

Right after first event, when you open the door, there's a spawn door on the left wall. Bursters do not make noise if they spawn in that door.

[elder pasture]

I feel like I’ve had crashes with weapon customization

But my only proof is that when I disable it, I don’t crash

[near gale]

it causes memory leaks

[brazen rampart]

Ask @warm flare, he died to a silent burster from that door last night.

[elder pasture]

Oh

[weary idol]

yeah weapon customization is known to be an unstable mod

causes memory leaks semi frequently

[patent mango]

worth it

[elder pasture]

So I’m not imagining it - how do you fix this?

[brazen rampart]

Yeah weapon customization is very unstable and memory intensive, you can get around it by doing the memory fix in your launch options.

[north tartan]

Aight

[brazen rampart]

I run the game for several hours without crashing.

The only thing that can crash me is consecrating weapons too fast.

[near gale]

Uh... I think if you customize everything, close your game, then open it again... it doesn't crash it as quickly

[elder pasture]

maybe it’s not that crucial… just kinda cool to have a triple barrel plasma gun lmao

[patent mango]

thats crucial

[elder pasture]

or have my dueling sword look like a great sword

[brazen rampart]

The main advantage of weapon customization is smaller viewmodels for your weapons and putting optics on guns that don't have them.

[patent mango]

just use the greatsword tbh

[elder pasture]

instead of a curvy toothpick

[brazen rampart]

I make my mk2 relic blade look like mk6 fgs because the model is much smaller.

[near gale]

Like flashlights on ogryn weapons(that aren't the heavy stubber) lol

[elder pasture]

I do now. I didn’t have GS as vet

[patent mango]

ohhh

yeah vet gotta wait for hte power fist 🙏 fatshark 🙏

[brazen rampart]

Oh, if only you could have a flashlight on ripper and not have it disable your bayonet...

[elder pasture]

Dueling sword is just too strong I think

[near gale]

ikr?

[patent mango]

oh yeah ds4 is just like goofy busted

[brazen rampart]

Ds4 needs to be taken out back and shot.

[near gale]

ds4 is so broken

[elder pasture]

I feel like my immersion is broken when knife and DS are the meta melee weapons

And not power sword/hammer/GS/chainsword/axe

[near gale]

the small pointy thing and long pointy thing are the meta...

[patent mango]

why axe

[elder pasture]

but anyway, ima not rant I’m a new player I have no right to do so

Chain axe*

[patent mango]

oh ok

[elder pasture]

Bc kharne

[near gale]

khorne

[patent mango]

corn

[elder pasture]

Kharne the betrayer, khorne’s champion

He uses a chain axe I believe

[near gale]

but what about khorne's kharne?

[brazen rampart]

Wait until you realize that the normal axe is better than the chain axe.

[weary idol]

Khorne really chose a guy named Kharne as his champion

[near gale]

or kharne's khorne?

[patent mango]

hes not playing meta is he stupid?

[elder pasture]

Seriously

[patent mango]

lmao

[brazen rampart]

Wait until you realize one of Khornes alternate names is "Kharnath."

[elder pasture]

That’s why sigismund beat him

[patent mango]

also yeah chaxe isnt too great

[elder pasture]

but it’s so cool 😦

[patent mango]

it need som help

[brazen rampart]

It's interesting to know the chaos gods have alternative names.

[elder pasture]

I feel like (correct me if I’m wrong bc I haven’t done my research) when you activate the chain weapons, the next attack is single target

Like… it should do giga damage and giga cleave

[patent mango]

specials that lock in place are just really bad

[elder pasture]

yeah

[patent mango]

how am i meant to use that when theres 30 crushers in front of me

lol

[elder pasture]

I was feeling that when I was using power sword too

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[patent mango]

psword is actually fine meta wise

[elder pasture]

Somehow relicblade and force GS feel more fluid though

[patent mango]

its just uh

a very repetitive weapon

[elder pasture]

gotta block cancel

[brazen rampart]

Psword needs a rework, desperately.

[near gale]

sucks when clutching

[elder pasture]

But just compared to DS

Which I feel… doesn’t require any effort

Like at all

[brazen rampart]

Needs better mobility, better un activated damage, less activated damage, and the relic blade heat system.

[patent mango]

yea ds just needs a few nerfs

[near gale]

vet psword is great when things are going great, but, not as great when things aren't going great

[elder pasture]

meanwhile DS is great all the time even when you mash m1

[near gale]

Yep lol

Just wait... they''ll end up giving the knife and ds the autopistol treatment >.>'

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

I feel like if they did nerf both at the same time they would start an actual riot

[weary idol]

what they'll brutally nerf the key blessings for it and ignore the consequences?

uncanny strike nerf

[near gale]

Pretty much

and probably nerf the adms as well

because fuck the player

[north tartan]

Just nerf everything, make everything on par with the shredder

[patent mango]

buff everything to be on par with dclaw

[near gale]

So nerf most things <.<

[patent mango]

naaww dclaw does like at least 9 dmg

[near gale]

9 whole damage

fuck yeah

[patent mango]

my game jst randomyl exploded

[jovial juniper]

blows up your game with mind

[patent mango]

aaaa why cant darktide just save my region

is there a mod for that

[brazen rampart]

Tbf uncanny strike needs to be lobotomized.

[upper sun]

ironhelm buffs when...

[patent mango]

ironhelm removed

[upper sun]

u blocked ^

[patent mango]

no ironhelm to block

[brazen rampart]

Ironhelm doesn't need buffed.

Hammers are in a fine spot.

[upper sun]

Crucis yeah its fine

but ironhelm has weaker heavies and lights which imo isnt enough to justify the "clear benefit" since it unactivated clears as well as rcucis

and in some situations you cant acitvate it to clear

i think it should have a slightly higher carapace adm so some crusher breakpoints are easier to hit thats it

[patent mango]

3 armor gamers and then the drip

[deft stump]

@paper dust She loves her belly scritches.

[upper sun]

nice floor

[deft stump]

And yes, her left leg spins when you scritch her.

[upper sun]

give my regards to the person that laid your tiles

very levelled and evenly spaced

[deft stump]

They don't get them layered properly there?

[upper sun]

🚬 depends on the guy

i had to learn because the asshole that did our kitchen fucked up a spot or two

or three

[deft stump]

They even cut them properly on the edges to fit.

Even tiny triangles for corners.

[brazen rampart]

Does she ever start kicking and scritch herself?

My dog does that.

[deft stump]

Yes, but she the kicking is more happy kicks then.

[paper dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hehehe-gif-8803924313447176056

[wooden sand]

Space-Trader going to sell theses 3 random crackheads he found on the street drugged

[blissful solar]

dog

[deft stump]

A simple gremlin, yes.

[fervent fossil]

Newbie here but like, honestly
Antax combat axe kinda slaps still for my psyker 🤷‍♂️

[pliant sage]

Combat axe my beloved

I prefer rashad

[patent mango]

oh my god

dude

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896565062712578051/1344856151505899542/Warhammer40-000-Darktide-2025-02-2723-12-24-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter_1.gif

[river locust]

Is wild fire good

[weary idol]

yesn't

[fringe garden]

Wow, just ran into a genuine smyker. Only smited the whole match. That's just... jesus people are strange

Don't think I've ever actually seen someone just only use smite the entire time

You hear about it, but jeez

[patent mango]

the people you know the most could secretly be smykers

[fringe garden]

I try to assume the best in people

[patent mango]

oh also i finally managed to switch to assail

i uh remember it exists sometimes now

👍

it good

[jovial juniper]

Do you have an Inferno/Blast ?

Yes, then wildfire good
No, then wildfire bad

[torn kernel]

If you're running IFR wildfire is very good

Since it doesn't care how many stacks are on

Just needs them to be burning

[brazen rampart]

Wildfire needs many sources of soulblaze to be good.

[patent mango]

wildfire is wild when it works

[torn kernel]

But yea if your only source of soulblaze is, like, PC, then it's not worth lol

[analog agate]

Did he have shriek?

[fringe garden]

I believe he did. Pretty certain was using the full smyker setup

[patent mango]

imagine how powerful smykers would be in a boring office job

[deft stump]

I think some asshat CEO would be found dead with a random shard in his head or just head go boom.

Or just bad management.

[patent mango]

[analog agate]

Just had a lvl 300 psyker join midmatch. Steal my health station (I was at 1/4 with pure corruption). Immediately go down after that and then quit

Ruined the run

[proper osprey]

I would’ve reported

I’m so happy that blocking people in game makes it so I don’t play with them

I actually unblocked all the people I did block because now they can sit there and watch my amazing gameplay

[analog agate]

My list was full a long time ago from purely people who bound tag to lmb and then 2 racist and 1 cheater. I guess I can unblock the racists and cheater? Never for the taggers 😈

[fiery stratus]

Think I've only blocked a couple people in a lot of playtime

[lethal plover]

which havoc rank

[verbal thistle]

4

[pliant sage]

I blocked one for being like

Hyper toxic

Would make the people here who call everything a crutch look like friendly fellows

[deft stump]

I mean, some people joke about crutches and such when it's about certain weapons. Though yeah, there are really toxic players with egos bigger than the sun.

[lethal plover]

playing psyker is a crutch

real men just bring a shovel

[north tartan]

I’d bring it on psyker if I could

[deft stump]

BONK BONK BONK.

[pliant sage]

Guys you guys are playing with curios, non white Un upgraded weapons, and talents?

Crutch

[lethal plover]

I think I'm slowly converging towards assail + trauma + telekine shield as all-rounder

[fervent fossil]

Alright, idk if this is opening up a can of worms here but..
Is empyric resolve a trap?

[jovial juniper]

Not really

Turns your glass cannon into nuclear wet paper

[fiery stratus]

good phrasing

[jovial juniper]

But builds like Scriers Gaze Electric staff will suffer

[fervent fossil]

I mean my main is, at the moment, a brain burst-telekine shield-warp siphon build

[dull scroll]

depends on the weapon, purge you don't need it, if you go electro you absolutely need that talent or your peril spikes like crazy

same for smite

[fervent fossil]

I use a voidstrike, spamming the charge attack

[jovial juniper]

You'll kill enough targets to proc soulstealer often

[deft stump]

20% per RMB btw for 60% WR dump.

Don't ask how I found out.

And this was quick fire, pretty sure if you charge, it will cost more.

[dull scroll]

I found out because I fucked around and blew up using electro without it 👍

[deft stump]

I had to run some build with it and going Assail, bubble and DD.

I can't quite path for ER, so... lul.

[spring compass]

I'm not really fond of staffs so which sidearm(preferably a pistol) would you recommend, for psyker?

[torn kernel]

Laspistol

[spring compass]

The starting weapon?

[torn kernel]

Or a recon las/inf autogun

Laspistol absolutely melts things including bosses if built properly

[spring compass]

[torn kernel]

Since you're not going for a staff i'm guessing you're using the usual scriers gaze + disrupt destiny build

[spring compass]

I'm looking forward to use zapping power

[torn kernel]

If you can handle the amount of clicks required per second it's the best lmfao

[analog agate]

Heavy laspistol mk2. Dumdum/infernus

I do flak/unyielding but I think some don’t do flak

[elder pasture]

I think there’s a mod called full auto you can use if you don’t want early onset arthritis

[torn kernel]

Just train your hand smh

Clickmaxx that shit

Get SWOLE

[elder pasture]

Tru

[spring compass]

I have been using semi auto weapons in other games long enough, i have no problem with laspistol
(As long as it's fire rate is decent)

[torn kernel]

My index finger is heavier than both my thumbs combined from using laspistol + tac axe

The firerate is uh

In like a weird middle ground imo

Too slow to just spam click, too fast for tapping without effort

But you'll get used to it after some time ig

[north tartan]

This was my issue with it when I first used it, the firerate wasn’t fast enough to spam, but not slow enough for me to focus fully on accurate shots

[analog agate]

Isn’t it 5 shots per sec? Something like that

[raven yarrow]

is void blast staff have bleeding perk? I only use inferno staff for my havoc/damnation match

[autumn smelt]

taxe psyker is literally peak

[dull scroll]

is that axe really peak or are you just flexing again

[flint pawn]

I love Tactical Axe

[flint pawn]

I have yet to break 1m but I'm still proud of this one

I will get there

[autumn smelt]

the axe really is that peak

[stark crown]

His ass is not hitting ANYTHING

Anyways yes Taxe is fun use it more

[autumn smelt]

you in the near future

[stark crown]

every human class is good with it

[stark crown]

Just mad lil bro 🚬

[spring compass]

I'd eat that

[autumn smelt]

dude
can we just remove dog pounce/nudge knockback

[cosmic sigil]

It's a peak axe.

[copper jay]

I find BB insane with staff but less with guns (this is why people are using Assail I guess ?)

[upbeat kestrel]

pathing

[copper jay]

YES

[thin finch]

uh what ?

what a weird welcoming sight

[copper jay]

So I really improved yesterday. Because of ... I was holding sprint ALWAYS even without stamina... Now I sprint, stop (have time to defend my self or parry) and sprint again and my survivability goes way up

[thin finch]

uh kinda weird resoning

tbh it's simple

[copper jay]

I'm wrong

I read the debate below this comment

(After posting this)

[thin finch]

can you current equiped weapon easily kill specialist at long range ?
Yes : BB bad
No : BB good
it's that shrimple

[thin finch]

I did not but neat

tbh this little chart can be used for any psyker blitz

Can current equiped loadout deal with what the blitz is good at

[mighty pier]

Ok I need to try this. What's mark, perk and blessings there? And attack pattern is push block attack then H2?

[autumn smelt]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e477e30-624d-48a3-b54a-8097ca8a4145/simply-just-a-little-tac-axe-psyker

Mark is either mk2 or 7

The pa>heavy combo is functionally the same on both, just opposite directions

[mighty pier]

Ok thx

[upbeat kestrel]

i need to get hang of obscurus

blessingss plus perks please

[autumn smelt]

I've not used obscurus enough to know perk stuff but my gut says flak unyielding
But do know uncanny slaughterer are both literally blessing on the literal weapon that you can literally take

And both stacked to max will 3 tap a crusher with a heavy>light>light without perks

[upbeat kestrel]

aye

nice secondary to my gunker

and special is useless?

[autumn smelt]

Basically

[upbeat kestrel]

or staying with illisi would be better for me

[autumn smelt]

Also with the changes it recieved you can go into horde combo easier via its slide attack

[upbeat kestrel]

eh i will stay with illisi then

maybe sometime

also

speedgryn

[ornate hamlet]

Thank you sir tips hat

[copper jay]

What chart ?

[thin finch]

The "yes /no" but in text form

Can current equiped loadout deal with what the blitz is good at

Yes :Blitz bad
No :Blitz good

[copper jay]

OH yes !

And what do you have against 5 crushers, long range, etc was interesting

[drifting steeple]

is this damnation

[brazen rampart]

Cole doesn't play anything but, unless he's hunting creatures in normal board heresy.

[copper jay]

This is Auric ? Havoc ?

[brazen rampart]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's auric damnation.

Probably hishock.

[thin finch]

They did not die from a gunner just standing there menacibgly so not havoc

[empty pivot]

why is melk offering the psyker a snack under his desk?

and why is psyker finding body peircings in his snack?

[copper jay]

How is the safest build works ?

[marble crater]

You smite and turn off the game, then the team can kill everyone

[copper jay]

I never tried Smite for now. I only look at players "playing" this when I was dead

[thin finch]

cue to team fucking off to kill everything aside from what you're smiting

[copper jay]

This seems pretty boring (but the purg staff too ?)

[marble crater]

But I will say that smite is actually bad for this, because instead of letting the enemy funnel into a chokepoint where you can easily kill them with inferno or VB they are spread out everywhere

[copper jay]

And the peril seems to rise fast

[marble crater]

Just use Inferno and VB with BB and KF for the free damage, you won't switch to your blitz a lot in havoc

[copper jay]

I'm just trying a little of everything ! (Started the game last week haha)

But since I first booted the game I already know Psyker was my main class

(Sienna Main on Vermintide 2 ...)

(Even when she was at the lowest)

Before the patch where you got damage reduction by enemies burned 😂 (OP shit)

[marble crater]

If you want to learn quickly, don't use smite

[copper jay]

When I played Zealot with Relic Blade, I didnt learn anything interesting ...

I thought I was really bad or I didnt understand the weapon

[thin finch]

I have not touched my psyker in weeks despite being my main

[copper jay]

But ... The weapon stats were just bad. When I put the Heat Management at max (and put 1 talent in Disdain). The game was really easy

[copper jay]

What did you play ?

[marble crater]

You still learned to actually interact with the game and mechanics, if everything is stunned with smite you don't learn anything and then just die the second you can't smite. I have seen it so many times where the smite spammers fold like a wet towel the second they need to melee something

[thin finch]

the penance grind had an impact on my mental health

I have completed Vet and zealot

I am now starting Ogryn

[marble crater]

Good luck with the ogryn penances

[thin finch]

My M1 Button have not been released from my finger for hours in poursuit of the lucky bullet penance

[copper jay]

Yeah Sure ! I just want to learn all the tools the Psyker has ! (And to join the big brains of Psyker to adapt with news patch)

[young falcon]

That train mission is awful. Snipers seem to have sightlines all the way from spawn at all times.

[quartz barn]

You can close the doors behind you by using the valves next to them

[copper jay]

This is a lot of combat ability spam with others classes for the penance ? (Or there is something I dont know ?)

[copper jay]

This is one of my favorite missions ...

Bubble is a must

[copper jay]

What is it ?

[thin finch]

Ogryn has a perk that give it between 8 ad 10% chance to have one extra free bullet

you have to make it happen 4000 times

basically you have to shoot around 40000 bullets

so to farm it I go in low lvel loby and never release my M1 button with my gatling gun

[copper jay]

I mean, the game is hard even on lowers difficulties 😭 I dont think that much difference between difficulty 1-2 or 3-4. We depend of the goodwill of the director AI

I'm lucky because I played at Vermintide before (and L4D) but this game as a first tide ? Damn that must be something

[marble crater]

The game is not hard on lower difficulties

[thin finch]

you say that and then you try hi STG and get welcomed by 10 rager, 5 crusher , 10 gunner right from the drop at the beginong of the mission while you are stuck in a tunnel

[marble crater]

The hardest part is the boredom, because there are no enemies

[thin finch]

absolutlety true

[copper jay]

For a Psyker yes

[thin finch]

for everyone

[copper jay]

Psyker fun depends a lot of horde density

[thin finch]

no that's everyone

in fact that is why you play the game, horde density to cleave trough

[copper jay]

I mean most weapons you got at low levels have even difficulties against helmet armored mobs

(The ones with only a helmet on the head and naked )

How even against a elite gunners, you dont have a lot of weapons doing both at low levels

The Relic Blade is lvl 18, The power sword is after level 10, The FGS is after level 10 too

Zealot you have the crusher relatively fast

And playing without talents helping toughness regeneration ...

Mediocre range weapons without stability ... (Helbore gun who cannot even shoot straight ?)

[copper jay]

Even on Vermintide I think the game is harder at low levels difficulties when nobody know his class and where to go on the map nor the good spot than at higher difficulties when everyone know the weapons, build and the good spot

[marble crater]

Yeah if you are low level yourself then it sucks a bit, because leveling is a pain and you can't make good builds. It's so much because the lower difficulties are hard

[copper jay]

Yes !

Typically Psyker with first talents really good with warp attacks when ... The staves sucks at low levels (for example)

[drifting steeple]

can confirm

[copper jay]

At what moment you told yourself the game becomes easier ?

[drifting steeple]

when i hit lvl 15-20 and transitioned from 2 to 3

i am however intimidated by 4

and 5

still learning the nuances of melee combat

[copper jay]

When did you begins ?

[thin finch]

Hit , parry THRUST DODGE !

[drifting steeple]

last week

[thin finch]

that's it :v

[marble crater]

Jump from 3 to 4 is harder than from 4 to 5, if that helps

[copper jay]

We began together then

[drifting steeple]

the only game i have played similar to this is Killing Floor 2

[thin finch]

Which I am never sure if it's because of a difficulty spike or basically stumbling with other player that are also not sure

[copper jay]

Yes and sometimes the game difficulty is "lying" (When you are difficulty 3-4 but with high intensity 😭 )

[drifting steeple]

but i have very hazy memories of it

yeah like, i did one 4 which was easy and then the next was a nightmare

[marble crater]

Because all the players who are too bad for 5 are in 4 but act like they are good enough but are stuck because of bad teammates

[copper jay]

I really like the game ! But the entry level difficulty for real beginners is a little too high, I think

[drifting steeple]

im currently just leveling my zealot to 30 while building good muscle memory such as using the special melee ability, blocking, pushing, etc

[copper jay]

AgentChaos will humble us ...

[plucky flax]

It's tru i am still stuck in sedition

[marble crater]

Noob

[thin finch]

"I got filtered by malice" pin

[drifting steeple]

i hope not

[neat hare]

i can`t get past the tutorial its too hard for me

[marble crater]

I forgot there is a tutorial

[neat hare]

[copper jay]

There was a telling in Vermintide "Only legend difficulty can prepare you for legend"

I applied the same for this game

[drifting steeple]

bf told me that he just threw himself into the deep end

he tried doing the same for me

[copper jay]

But I understand for real news players that must be intimidating to just skip difficulties

till the highest ones

[upper sun]

bruh the tutorial and the first mission are hell

[copper jay]

Your BF main what class ?

[upper sun]

i was fucking dueling poxwalkers

[drifting steeple]

zealot

[thin finch]

be me
lvl 1
Join Friend
pop me directly into Auric Damnation

[neat hare]

easy back to lobby

[copper jay]

Die how many times ?

[neat hare]

[copper jay]

... Chorus Zealot ?

[thin finch]

once per resurection post

[drifting steeple]

no clue tbh

[thin finch]

well it is an hypothetical scenario since I am the oine that bring people in

[drifting steeple]

he just smashes things with his hammer

[thin finch]

that's a Fury of the Faithfull zealot then

[drifting steeple]

i think for me the most disorienting part of 3 to 4 is the loss of a wound

[upper sun]

thats enough for 12 levels right off the bat

[thin finch]

it only matters if you die

[marble crater]

Don't need wounds, if you never go down.
Exactly

[neat hare]

[drifting steeple]

this is true

[copper jay]

Psyker has 75 base toughness and Orgryn 50 ...

[thin finch]

Ogryn does not have base 50

[upper sun]

ogryn has 20 100 toughness nodes tho

[marble crater]

Ogryn has 1000000 toughness damage reduction though

[copper jay]

Damn Psyker is really the best chan of this discord

So happy to be a Psyker main

[drifting steeple]

real

[thin finch]

(kinda asking tbh I have not checked )

[drifting steeple]

i play zealot and veteren and feel.. hollow...

[thin finch]

Because last time I played I went up to 400 toughness on my Ogryn while my Psyker struggle to go above 150

[neat hare]

i mostly play zealot and some ogryn when i feel like rp into hodor from game of thrones

[upper sun]

replace vet with psyker

this game only has two classes

zealot and psyker

[thin finch]

Then she should replace Zealot for Ogryn

otherwise you would not feel hollow playing them

[drifting steeple]

i should just make another psyker

[thin finch]

but yeah, Vet is a bit boring

[thin finch]

Leveling another Psyker is the road to madness

[drifting steeple]

they must give us 5 operater slots for a reason

[neat hare]

i used all 5 slots for characters . 1 of each and 2 vets lvl 30 lmao

[thin finch]

Before the perk tree update we assumed that it was in case of a futur class

[drifting steeple]

sobs give me an adeptus mechanicus themed class please i beg

[thin finch]

(I am still on copium for a techpriest tbh )

My Two wishes for Darktide are a Mechanicus class and Xenos weaponry

I want to shoot shuriken

[drifting steeple]

someone said that they would love to see a chaos marine

that person is cooking fr

[thin finch]

Many does but Big encephalus said "no Space marine" and I approve

[drifting steeple]

actually i watched this video with some good ideas

[neat hare]

it would take fs 20 years to do such an update though

[thin finch]

If you want space Marine you can play any 40k game and you will step into one, I am sick of them

[drifting steeple]

like having two chaos factions having a tenuous truce with each other, and giving us a new enemy type

also gene stealers

[vernal temple]

bruh, just had a game with one of those scriers gaze + macro spam psykers

[thin finch]

I am down for anything as long as it's not space marine

[vernal temple]

that shit is so boring looking

[drifting steeple]

fair enough
the chaos marine idea was having this entity that wasnt a boss but put pressure on the completion of objective

[vernal temple]

I have a similar scriers gaze + LMB spam but I'm using the basic "full auto" mod and I'm not attacking at 200 rounds per second

[drifting steeple]

like he was stalking the operatives and you had to avoid him

[thin finch]

Even more Green with da Boyz , some Red with Khorne , purple with GS or "glowgreen" with necron

Gimme Atoma tomb world pls

[marble crater]

Also soon to be banned, hopefully

[drifting steeple]

im really confused about the legality of mods

[wide lodge]

As long as they dont effect anyone elses gameplay they're fine

[upper sun]

rule of thumb is if it doesnt effect other players its fine

[vernal temple]

hopefully. I don't mind people using staff with full auto, that mod saves my fingers, but outright using a macro to shoot primary attack unnaturally fast is just plain cheating

[drifting steeple]

i was worried if i downloaded the collectables mod i would get nuked from the face of terra

[thin finch]

is this about the Wave cancel macro ?

[brazen rampart]

Mods that aren't clientside are bad, and macros are bad.

[deft stump]

Nobody would care, even the cheatyish mods that autoplay minigames.

[brazen rampart]

Collectible finder is legal.

[drifting steeple]

can i have a mod that gives my psyker massive boobs?

and black lipstick

[deft stump]

If you can find one, lmao.

[drifting steeple]

and fish nets?

[thin finch]

you can check the cosmetic store today for the fish net

[vernal temple]

the one that lets you fire primary at ungodly speeds, quel cancel iirc

[drifting steeple]

no thanks

unless

look seeing this cosmetic makes me wish you can recolour cosmetics

[deft stump]

As long as it isn't somehow pushed to server so everyone sees it, nobody cares if you gave everyone beeg boobas.

[drifting steeple]

i do not like the camo pattern

[thin finch]

Sadly that would mean that Obese Carcharodron could not sell recolor 😦

[drifting steeple]

thats true

[deft stump]

Why gib color wheel when they can sell you recolors at full price?

[thin finch]

If you give yourOgryn Big booba and I can't see them, I care

[drifting steeple]

"here's a neutral colour recolour of this cosmetic, that will be $17 aud please"

[deft stump]

Well, you can get the mod yourself then if it existed?

[thin finch]

How would I know it exist if I can't see other player big modded badabonkas ?

I'm gonna cease this bits least we devolve into zealot chat

[deft stump]

But yeah, mod however. It's a choice basically.

[deft stump]

I mean, there were recolored reruns for that already.

[thin finch]

indeed, I do not use them but if push come to shove I would glady use the weapon and armor skin from the mod market

finaly having sight on your gun would be a blessing

[deft stump]

Wish they added it in, a selection in scopes and sights.

[quartz barn]

Ahh i member when the hel rifle had a sight in a skin preview

The cope on why it shouldnt have a scope made no sense either

Tl dr hel rifle has no scope because theyre based on hunting rifles, which dont have scopes by default

Because, you know, youre supposed to mount the scope yourself

[drifting steeple]

currently contemplating if i should get the arren mastorius bundle

i like the head piece

where can i see a catalogue of all the past store items?

[deft stump]

Mod. Or wiki.

[young falcon]

The director then goes "Oops all gauss rifles"

Genestealers would have to be significantly nerfed considering they can tear into Terminator Armor.

[deft stump]

So we havoc in normal now?

We get pew pew and blep in secs?

[brazen rampart]

Technically, as long as it's clientside, yeah, probably.

[young falcon]

Havoc+, step into a tombworld. Get eviscerated by scarabs

[copper jay]

Wait really ? This is possible ?

[copper jay]

I have two ... One Seer and One Loner ...

[thin finch]

unless I mix health and stamina, yeah

[brazen rampart]

Yes, ogryn gets a good couple of toughness nodes that are quite good.

[thin finch]

but I may be mixing health and toughness*

[brazen rampart]

I think he gets 3 +25s?

Base is 60 on ogryn iirc.

[copper jay]

Havoc40 with reduced Toughness, how much is left ?

[brazen rampart]

And you have 300 hp base so you don't need hp curios.

[brazen rampart]

Havoc is a flat 45 reduction to toughness, no strings attached.

Hp has a flat reduction and a percentage reduction after that.

I do not recall the numbers though.

[copper jay]

So 220 Toughness

[brazen rampart]

Anyway, ogryn can get away with 60 + 75 for a "base" toughness of 135, afaik.

And considering you don't need hp or stamina curios on the big man, you can run 3 17% toughness curios.

Actually I take that back, ogryn is capable of 110 + base 60.

2 25 nodes, 4 15 nodes.

[buoyant maple]

No

[buoyant maple]

Reduction to base toughness

[brazen rampart]

I don't see what the difference between base reduction and reduction after talent nodes is.

[buoyant maple]

Base toughness is what curio +%toughness multiplies to

[near gale]

^

[brazen rampart]

Oh, well that kinda sucks.

[dull scroll]

this axe is a bad influence @autumn smelt, I need to find a way to try it out without accidentally converting innocent pubs

[near gale]

isn't the health reduction only applied to your base health only, and health curios aren't affected by it?

[brazen rampart]

I would've thought that curios affect toughness after talents.

[buoyant maple]

Health is (1-0.35+%health)

[near gale]

So yes

[deft stump]

314 hp becomes 245 btw.

[buoyant maple]

Toughness is (base toughness-45)(1+%toughness)

[near gale]

Oof

[deft stump]

100 toughness becomes 55.

[near gale]

Yeah so health curio's bonuses(from the curio itself) aren't affected by havoc, but, toughness' curios are

You just lose a flat 35% of your base hp after the health is done?

idk how tf to word it rn

I just woke up lol

I know what you mean, but, I can't word it right myself

[deft stump]

1 have 2x21% and 3x5% on Zealot for those numbers.

[copper jay]

Thanks for the check !

[deft stump]

I think the math is off if 314 turns to 245.

[near gale]

well... 35% of 200 is 70, so that pretty much checks out

[deft stump]

69, actually.

[near gale]

Just going off this formula since 0.35 = 35%

[deft stump]

I can't math btw.

I just know cos that is my Zealot's hp in h40.

[vernal temple]

nice

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/timesuck-dan-cummins-cult-bad-magic-gif-19516024

[near gale]

Basically with 3 5% healths and 2 21% it makes it (1-0.35+0.21+0.21+0.05+0.05+0.05) and order of opperations makes it 0.65 + (0.21 + 0.21)[0.42] + (0.05 + 0.05 + 0.05)[0.15] which becomes 0.65 + 0.42 + 0.15 which becomes 1.07 + 0.15 which becomes 1.22 which is 122% health

the [] are the values added together

then you do 200 x 1.22 = ~244(I say roughly because there are decimal points on the health curios themselves that we can't see)

[deft stump]

Yes, I live on gold toughness. >_>

55 toughness is just old psyker or something.

Or oggy.

Or something.

[near gale]

zealot is easy to find how much each health % gives since it is 2 x the % as bonus hp. 10%? 20hp. 69%? 138hp.

ogryn is also easy since it is 3x the amount lol

[deft stump]

I can't math.

Is simple.

[near gale]

Fair

Math doesn't come to everyone

[deft stump]

Math gib headache.

[near gale]

There are maff things I can't maff

but this is just basic/moderate addition and multiplication

[deft stump]

Yes. I still hate it. But yes, I do have a zealot with that much hp and corruption resist. Crusher overhead can't wound me.

[near gale]

On ogryn and zealot it is easy to know how much hp you get since the % bonus you see is x2 or x3 for how much you get

[dull scroll]

if I ever manage to win a pub match with this thing 😂

[plucky flax]

Won't convert me away from big sword

[deft stump]

Btw, on PC now and chat was way back but... This is what Psyker mains did. Lets drag someone who only plays heresy then and barely made it to h26 into H40.

[marble crater]

You say that like it's a bad thing

[deft stump]

Dropped into the deepest end of the ocean while you can't swim, yes.

[young cliff]

Sounds like what I would want to do, but since I try to do it as Ogreen no one wants me in their team at that difficulty

I do regularly auric damnation, tho. Probably still quite green

[deft stump]

Because Ogryns are very... polarizing. They are either godgryns or just bad on avg. Nobody wants to gamble cos of the lives system.

[marble crater]

Anything deeper than you are tall is the same, if you can't swim

[deft stump]

See, and my height then allows me to be fine on heresy then, kinda.

Everything else, well. OFF INTO THE DEEP END.

[marble crater]

What is your height? You are a gremlin, so probably like 1,50?

[young cliff]

I just want to prove Emphrur I'm loyal ogryn sah

[deft stump]

IRL? 1.72m.

[young cliff]

But honestly, I get it

[marble crater]

Bigger gremlin than I thought

[young cliff]

That's hobgoblin

Gremlin but tall

[deft stump]

My gf is taller and even more of a gremlin so..

DURP.

[young cliff]

Alpha hobgoblin GF

[deft stump]

Naw, the joke is two bottoms.

[deft stump]

I don't care if you just play your best in sense. Though is more, I trust in some players more than what they play as. It will be harder to survive with only 1 source of gold toughness that is on me but... it will be fine, RIGHT?

[spring compass]

You know i take my words back, smiting heretics heads are more pleasing than using Palpatine's tactics

[deft stump]

It's more about the fun and or enjoyment you get out of it tbh.

[young cliff]

Some games can be quite fun, it's rare to have a full locked on team but when it happens it's SOOO EASY to protect them, the other side of the spectrum however...let's just say that I got eaten from full hp to 0 by a dog without anyone helping more times than I would want to accept posible (even in quite low Havoc)

[deft stump]

It's possible in any game. I had to literally run upstairs with a knoife to shoot a dog off someone in an auric earlier.

[quartz barn]

Ogryn's performance heavily depends on the team

[deft stump]

Cos everyone jumped down and I'm technically the fastest.

[young cliff]

Word, when they are well positioned intercepting enemy hordes of rangers and crushers is like going bowling, SUPER satisfying

[deft stump]

And I'm not gambling with a blind 'nade.

[quartz barn]

Only reason to have one in high havoc is because of stagger and dmg increase

[deft stump]

And then you get a pickaxe oggy.

IT WILL BE FINE.

[quartz barn]

Pickaxe oggy is better than shield

[upbeat kestrel]

speedgryn the best

[young cliff]

Hey pick ogryn eats hordes like they are rashuns

[upbeat kestrel]

ogryn eats hordes.

[quartz barn]

But has a much higher skill ceiling so scuffed with pubs

[deft stump]

It only works if someone is murdering all the ranged stuff though.

[upbeat kestrel]

yup

[young cliff]

That's all the ogryn experience tbh

[deft stump]

Is why I don't mind it if i know and trust the players.

[young cliff]

Speedgryn feels so good because it's normally tortoise

[deft stump]

Randos though... errr.

[quartz barn]

With randoms its easy to tell who's good or not

[upbeat kestrel]

i have a bull butcher with 80mob

[quartz barn]

And even in h40 you can tell based on reactions to various things

[upbeat kestrel]

its stupid and fun

[deft stump]

In the lobby? Not really.

[upbeat kestrel]

had few nice havoc games earlier

[quartz barn]

Ye ok but you can still manage if people are worse

[deft stump]

Lvls mean nothing but how much time spent on the char or if they exploited that thing.

[quartz barn]

The difference im talking about is average h40 run with a couple rough areas and a down or 2 vs the casual true survivor run

Because at some point people can just do h40 no hit regardless of what happens

[young cliff]

Wonder if I'm playing too slow or focusing too much on the enemies flanking us, I tend to be left alone back and I'm the only one that retreats when a boss spawns

[quartz barn]

This doesnt say a lot without context imo

[deft stump]

They are always spicy even with carries, more so now since I am trying to play outside of psyker mains and get the whole range of stuff. No bubble gets... spicy if there's 3 zealots and a psyker with trauma.

By that I mean 2 flamers and a recon.

[quartz barn]

Because depending on your teamcomp you usually walk through levels or sprint/stop to chokepoints

[deft stump]

Also, 2 fury and 1 chorus.

So....

[quartz barn]

Same thing for bosses, theres usually set spots where you fight them

[young cliff]

I tend to favour slower approaches, so I'm not familiar with the many points one should rush to make use of a choke point

[deft stump]

I just hug the person I know who can carry.

Or the psyker.

Cos if they aren't going assail, they are likely to have psykinetics.

[quartz barn]

Think of places where its easy to deal with spawning hordes

People will passively clear the area ahead of gunners, then rush in with chorus or bubble or w/e to clear the remaining enemies while prepping for the next hordr

[young cliff]

But sometimes IM the Psyker

And it might be a developed phobia but people sometimes just refuses to kill the bombers

[quartz barn]

What is your loadout

[young cliff]

Varies, sometimes FGS with VBlast, others Deimos with flame staff

[quartz barn]

Because if you run bubble and or EE itll mostly be you who determines the pace

'Easy' with inferno, kinda tricky with blast

[young cliff]

Blast is quite the CC source, so I like it, especially when crusher congas start to happen

[quartz barn]

Ye but its harder vs gunners

[young cliff]

True

[quartz barn]

Easier to lock down a area however

[young cliff]

Have to be more daring with slides and shields for it

[deft stump]

I have no range, and no, my throwing knoifes are for flamer switching or panic into a trapper.

[quartz barn]

Doesnt matter, use bb

Or block the grenades with bubble

[young cliff]

Don't get me started on the time I was the only one who was killing snipers as a zealot with knifes, team HATES to shoot snipers for some reason

[deft stump]

When you have a vet who claims to be a god gamer but can't even shoot reapers, let alone other things.

Also, Inf Lasgun why.

Also TOXIC as all heck.

[young cliff]

Even with double barrel shotgun someone must shoot the bomber/sniper and not to mention that even in that cases you can mark enemies to tell people what needs to be killed

[deft stump]

You know you have an issue if the other zealot is the one either shooting or bonking them instead.

[young cliff]

I'm yet to met super toxic players but I fear I might become one of those jerks for the amount of bomber neglecting so many do

[deft stump]

Ah yes, losing because 2 walls of farts blocking us on front and back.

[young cliff]

The tox bomber is THE worst

[deft stump]

Can't rush, can't retreat.

When I mean walls.

I mean double bombs so they basically never clear.

And then enhanced green pus crusher pack shows up from the front.

[deft stump]

The AoE is just way too big tbh.

[young cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/avataro-sentai-donbrothers-donbrothers-super-sentai-first-appearance-donblaster-gif-25842006

The crusher about to end the crew walking on the flame bomber hallway

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna try silo cluster monsters maelstrom tru duo?

(Carry me)

[analog agate]

If only I wasn’t at work

[quartz barn]

Am at work as well

Plus was gonna do ulti raid in ff once i get home

[copper jay]

Just put a purg staff in his hands and let him play havoc40

[copper jay]

But people good with orgryns will not be even more good with zealot ?

[jovial juniper]

You'd probably lose the good pushes on Ogryn

[copper jay]

There are guides for these chokepoints per map ?

[deft stump]

No, I was talking about me way back, lul. It actually happened like that because they thought it would be funny.

[deft stump]

I wouldn't know tbh. I never really bothered to play Oggy.

[copper jay]

When i'm playing inferno staff bubble in auric and NO ONE is shooting down the sniper, I know i'm in a fcking trouble

[copper jay]

WE AGREE

THIS IS WAY TOO LONG 😭

[quartz barn]

Knowledge check, maybe but prob not

[copper jay]

😢

[young cliff]

I'm fairly sure I slipped and eluded death's grasp with zealot in scenarios where I'm sure I would die as Ogryn

[copper jay]

I only do Quickplay. I never know or recognize any map. This week i'll try to select map to begin to recognize them

[marble crater]

Learning by doing (and failing)

[quartz barn]

Its also about map sections that can spawn monsters

At one point youll know once you move into a certain area that a monster can spawn

[young cliff]

Issue is that Ogryn's mobility is lower in exchange of the bulk of stats in hp, but that's meaningless against stuff that can insta kill you

[quartz barn]

I have more hp on psyker lol

[copper jay]

Yes the problem is ... I'm not failing so I dont learn anything ...

[young cliff]

So the extra durability is much less valuable trade for the corgi legs

[quartz barn]

Oggy doesnt really spec into hp for havoc while psyker does

[copper jay]

Buff grenade launcher

[quartz barn]

Eh just try to not get hit

[young cliff]

Buff bullyclubs while we are at it, it has no right to be so slow

[copper jay]

I think i'm rushing and putting my team in troubles with the monster boss spawn ... That happened more than once

[quartz barn]

In the end who cares, as long as you clear

[copper jay]

I hope the orgryn patch will really help you

[young cliff]

In the Heavy Ogryn Update I believe

[quartz barn]

And some sections are just scuffed regardless

[young cliff]

(sips a cup full of hopium)

[quartz barn]

See the elevator in that torrent mission

[jovial juniper]

It has no right to have capped heavies

[copper jay]

I'm improving about this since ... Yesterday. I was still pressing sprint (even after Stamina is empty. I was so stupid) so was taking a lot of hits

Now this is better

[copper jay]

Capped heavies ?

[jovial juniper]

Your heavies will only damage 3 targets

Despite having high cleave

[young cliff]

The fact that you can't chain dodges as ogreen when multiple maulers/crushers would swing at you fill me with sadness

[quartz barn]

Dodge slide depending on the situ

[deft stump]

True. I know some try with not suitable stuff but still.

[young cliff]

Dodge slide still gets you hit by crushers in my experience (?)

[quartz barn]

Doesnt extend i frames but creates distance to avoid hits

[deft stump]

It's either, beeg AoE but lasts for a much shorter time, or small AoE but lasts this long.

Not both big and lasts for what, 30 secs?

[copper jay]

This is why BB is a must have for me 😭

[young cliff]

It's capped at 3?!!! No Stinking wonder it feels this bad

[copper jay]

WE NEVER KNOW

[quartz barn]

And ye theres a slight skill check vs groups, because sometimes a dodge slides is the cause of you getting hit (shouldve dodged twice instead for example)

[copper jay]

WHAT ?????

I didnt know that but that explains a lot of thing

[young cliff]

Dodge on crusher swing, gets netted by the Trapper because you can't dodge again

[deft stump]

Is why I pleaded for Hank to poke whoever does the stuff for weapons to just remove all caps and at most, rebalance the cleave numbers if that is honestly required.

[copper jay]

This is why people called me dogshit on zealot chat when I talked about using H2 for the relic blade to clear hordes without power activate

[deft stump]

It will make some weapons go from basically absolute trash to actually usable.

And make the usable ones feel better to use.

[patent mango]

i think zealot chat jsut sucks

[copper jay]

Yes ...

I mean here I feel we are like a family

[patent mango]

family guy

[copper jay]

And no one is saying to me "You are stupid"

And everyone try to explain things

[young cliff]

They are zealots, they will pass far away and will not bother us for a while

[copper jay]

This is way more nuanced here. Because we have more flexible builds than Zealot ? I dont know

[deft stump]

No, I just call myself useless anyway so... Saves time, yes?

[young cliff]

You are not useless, I'M useless

Flipping faker

[copper jay]

I'm not useless

I'm """focusing on CC""" to help my teamates 😔

[deft stump]

Nu, you faker.

[deft stump]

Excuse me. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e23cfb2-48b1-4603-841a-7dfd8cb84798/kittehs-h40-aurabot

Read title.

[young cliff]

Nu uh, you silly
I told you I'm useless

[deft stump]

Nu. I'm the useless aurabot who is just there as emotional support mascot or something.

[near gale]

zealot chat is hit or miss for how polite they are >.>

[copper jay]

A real bot is using "Pious Cut-Throat" in more than "Invocation of Death" to have a 100% uptime of golden toughness 😔

[young cliff]

At least you are an aura for emotional support

• me, using loner aura, a real useless

[deft stump]

Oh, they saw that and went to town on it because I took the damage on book and the 10% crit for everyone else.

[deft stump]

I have 300 ping and highly questionable packet loss, I don't even know if I can hit backstabs.

[near gale]

I mean... it's mostly just a point sink that isn't needed. You do you tho

[copper jay]

With relic blade, while the horde was against a ally I attacked behind, I already lost 12 seconds of CD with one hit

[deft stump]

.-.

[near gale]

The only real glaring issue I see is not having sustained assault.

[young cliff]

Just do a face-stabbing and it will work 20% of time 100% of the time

[deft stump]

That is what they keep complaining about. HRMPH.

[dull scroll]

zealot mains just want to shake off the book bot image

but if you don't have the mechanics to maximize dps more support auras is def the way to go

[near gale]

I mean... it's 20% melee damage from it and 5% from the node before and zealot mostly melee attacks

[deft stump]

I uhhh, might be the one somehow pulling all the aggro.

Even when next to the psyker at the back.

[deft stump]

Also, 300 ping+Questionable packet loss. Half my attacks don't actually land.

[young cliff]

The Nurgle hordes learn how to focus the back line

[deft stump]

THings take too long to actually die so I can't dodge through them.

Even when they should be extremely dead.

[young cliff]

Nurgle followers are meant to be the "REALLY hard to kill why are you not dead yet?!" Folks

[copper jay]

So you are helping by taking aggro OR with 100% uptime golf Toughness. Seems a win win for me.

[copper jay]

Oceania ?

[deft stump]

Just be REALLY hard to kill yourself, and be like, I'll eat your overhead with until death and heal more than i lost?

[young cliff]

Ok I'm calling gold toughness --> golf toughness from now on

[deft stump]

Yes, but everyone here plays EU, even the vets I know. XD

[copper jay]

Could you shoot your next game session ?

I'm curious how the game is with 300 ping

[marble crater]

EU is the best server

[deft stump]

I don't record cos my PC already tries to commit suicide normally.

[upper sun]

u have 512gb of ram use them

[deft stump]

It gets LOUD in DT, though it might be because CPU can't take it.

[deft stump]

Just everything is delayed.

[copper jay]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/49

[deft stump]

But the packet loss can sometimes save you.

[marble crater]

But her Firefox needs 511 of them or something

[near gale]

with 200 ping muties go through you and grab you from 5m away... so yeah really delayed... teleporting enemies n such

[deft stump]

0 damage standing infront of a gunner on my end.

Wut.

[deft stump]

It's not GPU, it's pure CPU stuff tbh.

[dull scroll]

I played a euro lobby at 200 ping few days ago, it was actually a lot better than I thought for some reason, didn't notice much difference

[deft stump]

Actually, let me go check.

[near gale]

It mostly depends on your internet and how much bs the directly has spawned afaik

[deft stump]

I do have only 1 YT tab open though.

So not as spicy as usual.

[young cliff]

Suuure YT it is

[deft stump]

It is.

[near gale]

(82).... >.>

[analog agate]

A lot of people in zealot chat are assholes and think they are self important. I was unironically told there that they can give better psyker advice than here because they are “autistic about numbers”.

[deft stump]

Yes, but I'm looking at just the youtube things in the FF task manager.

It's using 7GB of that.

[marble crater]

There is a reason zealot chat had their picture permissions revoked and slow mode enabled until recently

[deft stump]

So more than half by itself.

[analog agate]

That was from someone with 3 times less playtime than me

[deft stump]

I rather trust Vet mains for psyker numbers... Since the real number freaks is in vet mains.

[young cliff]

Veterans are mathematicians? Neat

[deft stump]

Just go there and ask about the numbers for anything.

Or ping Path and ask.

[analog agate]

I mean. They all crib from path

So… you really mean path is the person to ask

[deft stump]

Yes, and he's the vet main poster child in sense, so... lul.

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896565062712578051/1344856151505899542/Warhammer40-000-Darktide-2025-02-2723-12-24-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter_1.gif

[near gale]

Nah, just simply 1 shot the plague ogryn

[deft stump]

This is why you want corruption resist. I ate two booms to the back and all it did was push me closer to the escape lift earlier.

Not even half a wound of corruption.

[near gale]

(this is what happens when you don't have 1 headtaker/sustained assault stack)

[plucky flax]

Nice cheat mod.

[summer prairie]

@plucky flax I'm up for some now or a bit later tonight

[deft stump]

Watch as someone reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees about breakpoints and such.

[patent mango]

yea.. profile pics mod is busted....

[plucky flax]

Hmm I can play some now until food.

[near gale]

btw 10% weakspot damage is enough as well to 1 shot them iirc, in the place of 1 headtaker/sustained assault stack

[deft stump]

Yes, but you get the idea.

[near gale]

Yeah I do lol

[summer prairie]

lets try a few then

[near gale]

That was because of lumi, that I did that testing lol

[deft stump]

Because I keep getting it for not having 5 more points on my Vet tree.

Ah yeah...

Lumii...

Hates my Zealot to no ends.

[near gale]

Lumi was a loose cannon >.>

[deft stump]

Spent like 15 mins screaming at me about how it's dook and all that.

And that you shouldn't even take corruption removal.

[near gale]

Screaming just makes someone ignore you harder, generally... I find just explaining it and letting them do what they're gonna do works better

[deft stump]

They did half and half.

[near gale]

Outside of havoc the corruption removal aura isn't as good as benediction

[deft stump]

That was a H40 build.

It's in the title.

I only took it grim hunting because it's funny on sedation.

Grims can't even eat 1 wound, lul.

[near gale]

You can restore a wound on someone by throwing a grim lol

[deft stump]

Yes, but the idea is sedation diff grim hunting.

So we don't ruin games.

Not everyone wants to deal with grims on heresy or damnation.

You basically go blind on psyker due to low max HP.

Well, I do.

You pick a grim when I'm on psyker?

I basically play blind the rest of the game.

If you force me the clutch then, well, uhhh... You better pray that anything that spawns is somehow glowy.

And I mean not cream colored glowy.

I can't tell apart shades.

Like my slightly pink door and my white room wall in my room light blends in.

They look the same to me.

I can only tell what is the door due to shadows and the engravings and the obvious bronze door handle.

So if you put a mono colored fliter over everything... well...

[near gale]

So you have special vision

[deft stump]

I dunno. Like black and darkbrown looks the same to me depending on how dark the brown is..

[near gale]

Ah so you are blessed with my kind of colorblindness where close colors blend together

[deft stump]

Is why DRG without mods is already a nightmare and now you throw in actually invisible buggers.

Yes, I'm waiting for a mod to actually make the shimmer visible.

Cos the current one didn't help.