#psyker-class
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there is no too low for force swords
second dump stat I mean
but always max out your other stats
first dump stat is warp res 2nd is quell speed 3rd is blast radius
Mobility is important because FGS needs the speed
its true
everything else is damage
These are illisis
You can only dump warp res
My pref stat is mobility, and why I use this sword anyway
first target is my likely choice
wait they're illisis
Normal FS, you can dump mobility more easily
They called it memesword, so I blame them
I'd still only dump warp res tho
normal fs you can dump warp res
Yeah, the lower boundary on mobility is really just giving up sprint speed - which I don't love, this is for memes, but it's also feel like the least to give up
meme sword?
Pump for peril, shriek/quietitude/warp rider etc
so regular sword
Yeah just optimized for fewer pumps
I thought you meant fire illisi
No, sadly.... I've tried so many times, and it's just never great, but good point that is the true meme sword
I just tried 20% warp res recently and realized how much more I like it, dunno why I hadn't done it sooner
fire melee is so slop
So slop that damage and finesse are dump stats.
Fire melee is not fire at all
Until death but make it psyker.

Im a new player looking for a good build currently I’m using and liking the tracking darts
Which level are you? 
19
I guess staves are slowly starting to become usable then 
What do you like using besides the tracking darts? Shield, shriek?
I currently have the scricer gaze and I haven’t been able to test it out much cause I just got it
I have the voidstrike one right now and I am liking it a lot
You can build yourself to something like this then
Assail and Voidstrike work well with the right keystone
What Melee should I use?
I’ve been using the chain sword but I’ve started to test the blazeforce great sword
Greatsword is a good all around weapon. Otherwise illisi for hordes, Deimos for bigger targets, probably greatsword or illisi for voidstrike though
What is illisi I don’t see it
Ah, that's the name of one of the normal force swords marks
All of the staves and melee psyker or gun psyker work perfectly well in anything that's not high level havoc, most popular are probably Elektro and Voidblast staves with shriek and left keystone
Ok thank you for helping me with my build
My god i love taxker
This is what I use for Voidblast/Dueling Sword and Elektro/Illisi respectively
you might be the only tax user I see
There's a few.
I still haven't got on it.
Good, you should stay a few 
Taxe
MK 8 FGS
Obscurus
These are the melee's I want to use but keep forgetting about.
Obscures fading into obscurity
i should play obscurus again, they changed the moveset
Been too trained to forget about it.
What’s a good complementary gun to use with the Blaze Greatsword?
Recon las 
Any good gun on psyker. FGS is good enough at everything.
Varks 5, Recon, Laspistol, revolver, bistol
EK
With assail and FGS, all of your bases are already covered. The hardest to deal with will be reapers.
So pick the gun you like.
bolt pistol
Gotcha
Anyone want to game?
I'm inebriated, so I can't be trusted to not be goofy.
No Rashad? 
I was wondering why did you not pick the green ability on assail
Nah. Random builds already got me to play that a few times.
The other one only gives +1 to targets cleaved while warp splitting give SO much more. When points are at a preimium, it's not worth it.
This 
The extra green mod to assail I mean. Meh
And also on the brain rupture one I was wondering
This one
The upper node on brain burst is bad outside of one specific build
Only useful if you plan to make a build that uses brain burst as a main dps source, it's fun I guess, but I don't think it's very useful
If ur asking or wondering about the BB (brain burst/ brain rupture) lower node KF (kinetic flayer), it's more or less a passive damage boost.
Most builds use BB very little or outright ignore it. Similar thing if you were to take smite.
So KF goes off on high priority targets when you'd be ignoring your blitz aways.
BB and smite are used more when you build for them. Those builds are EP builds. EP is the middle keystone aka Empowered Psionics.
Ah, yes. KF good 
KF good
KF good
KF benefits from buffs from weapon in hand while it goes off
so it's almost always more dmg than normal brain rupture
for example, blaze away on inferno buffs KF's dmg
by up to +40%Tstr
plus weapon's perks
I'm sure Fatshark will fix this design flaw fundamentally embedded in the blessing system since the game's release
Don't mind me while I make use of fire bleed FGS
they won't
but they can make the underpowered blessings more interesting to combat it
a lot of blessings actually are conceptually pretty interesting it's just their stats suck in comparison to the meta stuff
and u only get 2 blessing slots
Eh, it's many times harder to balance dozens upon dozens of blessings with swap stupidity in comparison to just... adding a check that the damage instance is from the specific weapon the blessing is attached to
but you are correct
They won't.
having less "total" application blessings would be cool yea
starting with uncanny strike
What blessings are good on the blaze force great sword
Unstable Power, Riposte, Wrath if no Warp Splitting
Deflector if you're into that
shred and deflector are also options
I hate precog, but I get people using it.
Am this close to just go Blazing Spirit brain off light spam ad infinitum
duality of man
So I’m trying to make a gun psyker and I’m using the Vraks Mk 5 auto gun, what blessings and perks do y’all recommend on it?
Try the agripinaa revolver sometime, lotta fun
Also what’s the recommended dump stat?
Mobility
dum dum and deathspitter
For both btw
I use flak and unyielding
Bulwarks too, let them swing and open
Typical gunker goes assail, and that takes care of lighter targets in combo with melee
Y’all use the shield?
bubble? I love bubble, but I highly recommend not using it until you're confident playing without it
It's a very dangerous crutch
Most of my psyker builds use the shriek
Gunker normally takes Scrier's.
Only recently started taking bubble for havocs
Shriek is always good.
Because of gunner spam
Yeah, in high havocs bubble is the meta
Like, if you're good enough that you can carry an auric or 25+ havoc, you can take bubble without too much worry of it becoming a crutch. Just remember it's a useful tool but it can get destroyed and only lasts about six seconds due to invulnerability periods after each hit (if it's taking too much fire). Always be prepared to not rely on the bubble if you can, because it will fail you.
Well, no, it is a safe haven, just a very short one. Bubble's main use isn't letting you move between cover, you can do that with sliding, it's giving you a 6-second window of firing at all those gunners pinning you down.
bubble is at its best placed on top of the enemy, not away from them
i like bubble because bonbon cant throw up on me and i can poke her pimple
fucking hate bubble
I assume gunker uses disrupt Destiny?
DPS is king, and bubble is meta in Havoc because it enables DPS far better than shriek or scrier's, lol.
yeh
not with the pubs
most people still dont really appreciate that bubble is 1000x better if you run up aggressively and drop it on the shooters instead of hanging back and turtling under it
Well, yes, but that's why you have the bubble
and most players just dont push until bubble pops first
and are carrying
nah fuck bubble
What types of curios do you use on psyker, as far as toughness and health and stamina go?
2 tough 1 stam
if FGS 3 tough
1 stam for dueling sword/knife (tough otherwise), 2 tough or 1 tough and 1 health.
1 hp 2 toughness
The health needs a health substat to let you get to 201 HP which helps you not get blasted immediately by silent bursters
Honestly, considering you have played a lot it real doesn’t matter. I have swung from all toughness to all health to +3 stam thrown in there. I settled on following path’s stuff
you also need the health subnode above warp rider but like... I don't know a single build that doesn't take warp rider
if playing with pubbies, i think taking 1 hp is worthwhile
the number of times where i've had pubbies fail to push a burster or just let the burster walk right past time, or push a burster into me...
Yeah I take health if I'm not ready to lock in and want to be lazy
tyvm for the info, I am playing with a newer player who's on console. They are still a fresh level 30*
It was their 4th character they got to level 30
Needs TikTok and gacha game
Scriers is best with guns/Melee, and voidstrike
update
i feel like i can pull my weight on damnation but i definitely can't carry
chaos spawn pushed my team's shit in
so now im kinda asking myself-should i not bother with brain burst? i thought it was handy, but im definitely feeling it when i have to charge up and by then everything is dead
I never bother with BB except with the Inferno staff, and even then I really only use BB as like an opener with RMB charging when nothing is happening but I'm waiting for specials to appear
I wouldnt rely on any blitz on psyker
I mean, assail is pretty powerful for the gunker playstyle
and smite, while deservedly-hated, is undeniably useful
True, but most of the time theyre only complimentary since your main weapons are just better
True, assail is kinda all about being complimentary 
I rely on assail being complimentary
Perfect cuz I use inferno staff
I flip between shriek and bubble rn
Bubble undeniably is very handy, but I use shriek more because it's satisfying
Use flayer it's free damage.
And just like.. not use bb unless it's a sniper Xd
Mostly just use assail as a long range sniper and gunner killer when I'm out of ammo. Or when I don't have time to reload and they are about to pop me. It's a dangerous game though, a lot of the time assail is what pops me. Lol but it's nice to have outside havoc.
Assails is my main weapon. 
I actually use bb quite often in havoc
Mostly vs smol gunners that are out of purg range
Or just to aggro groups to pull them to chokepoints
can you go past 200 HP on psyker without a HP curio?
No iirc
i think i capped around 170/180 ish
No, I use 2 toughness curios, 3 health perks and 3 toughness perks. It's enough to survive a mauler overhead or a sniper shot. It's good enough imo 
I am trying to find a balance when using taxe or knife: rn i use 1tg, 1 stam, 1 hp + 1x5hp and 3x5tg... so that i am above 200 HP in health. But I need to take a +15 tg node to go from 139 to 159. It's frustrating.
Balance for what?
187.5
between having enough hp, tg and stam
that and a stamina curios is 'enough' for me
Do you want more or less stamina for kinetic deflection? Or does it not matter?
The more stam you have the longer you can tank almost everything forever
But it only gains peril based on the stamina used to block, so how much stamina you have doesn't matter until you actually start using stamina right?
You block with peril instead of stamina and the more stamina you have the less peril increases while blocking
So if normally 1 rager combo would give you 10% peril from blocking it will only be 3% with a stamina curio (numbers made up)
But that's block cost, stamina is how much you can use
The cost is the same, but it's a lower % because you have a higher peril pool to block with because of the increase in stamina
But warp resistance doesn't scale with stamina
"Gained Peril is 25% of the blocked attacks stamina cost"
"Stamina cost" is that a percentage or a value?
If it's a percentage then block cost will decrease with more stamina, but if it's a value then it wont change
It should be a value, attacks don't cost more stamina to block just because you have more stamina
And I feel like this got too complicated for no reason now 
3 stamina
blocks rager -> costs 1 stamina -> converts into 25% peril
1 stamina
blocks rager -> costs 1 stamina -> converts into 25% peril
As I said
you tested this in psych?
The 25% means that it is 4 times more efficient than stamina
this is interesting enough I'll give it a test
No, because I don't have mods. But it's easy to see in regular games, that's how the talent works
You block with peril instead of stamina and the more stamina you have the less your peril will increase from enemy attacks, because you have a higher stamina pool to draw from, so each attack is a lower % of your peril
Not if it just calculates peril gained from block cost alone
Because blocking an attack is a set value
It doesnt change with stamina
I give up
2.3% on 5 stam, 5.6% on 2 stam
very interesting
that's from blocking a scab bruiser atk
but yeah, guess more stam = less peril generated from KD is true
Same block cost?
Because ik -20% block cost makes a difference
So the % stamina used up from blocking decreases if more stamina?
I guess it must do
This seems the most logical ye
If stamina is max 100% then +1 stamina will just mean that things decrease it at half the rate
You were making a claim without evidence
You were assuming this
that fatshark description of that skill in no way hinted that this more stam less stam is a thing
You also claimed more stam = less peril gain on block, which is a false conclusion
what
"25% of the blocked attack's stamina cost"
All it does is eat peril. When maxed out it swaps to Stam and so forth.
What is the correct conclusion?
how would you ever know this description would imply more max stam = less peril block cost
The blocked attacks' stamina cost is a percentage as well
So it works with both having more stamina and block cost reduction
The problem lies with how more stamina interacts with things that reduce stamina
It seems that all more stamina does is reduce the % taken from blocking/running ect...
And therefore more max stamina will decrease peril generated
@quartz barndoes this count?
Block cost reduction would be the only way to pump it. I don't even know if that applies to the peril block function.
arg this is probably the case
no that's the only explaination
"Gained Peril is 25% of the blocked attacks stamina percentage cost" not just "stamina cost"
Yeah thats what I originally thought
Also @marble crater i just meant that your conclusion is correct but for the wrong reason
Not that you were wrong as a whole
I know I wasn't wrong, I used the talent for enough hours to know how it works
@dull scroll can you test with +2 stamina perk on weapon?
If it makes a difference to peril gained, if everything else is the same apart from +2 stam perk
I tested it with a +3 stam curio on and off, I don't see how if stam is on weapon would make a difference
Surely it would
Average psyker chat, all we need now is a scuffed graph for stam % used vs peril % gained
the curios +3 is to max stam, not talking about stam regen or anything
yeah
Yes
alright I'll indulge you lol
I want to parry demonhosts so 
Use stamina curios, peril reduction talents and go afk
I was doing it on havoc 40 and i gained maxed peril almost immediately
7 stam = 3.6%
5 stam = 5%
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dd3a73f-1766-446d-833d-ec3c4c9a275c/bolt-barrage
I don't really want to give up the 17% toughness curios
speaking of which Melk is a known scammer, careful out there
for those who don't know that shit aren't +3
How can you tell
load into a round and see
if the rating is less than 410, it's a counterfeit
Since time immemorial stam curios of certain ratings have for some reason rounded up in display and down in gameplay

Does it happen with other curios
I mightve been scammed

No, just stamina
So using this calculation
+2 stam reduces block cost for peril gained by 28%
Which is higher than the 20% block cost reduction
The 12% from curios is even less
Does stamina regen decrease time before it regens or just the speed when it does?
All I can say is, 14 bars of stam with a force weapon is memes for kd blocking.
Just go AFK in a corner, the DH deals like 2-3% tops per combo.
Greatsword with max peril res, max defense, +2 stam and -20% block cost, and deflector 
The upper end of blocking potential is kind of silly; you could leave to go take a piss while fighting a dh and come back just fine
How do I know? That's my AFK in the corner for MM thing.
Just doesn't help much against enemies with overheads
I wonder how long this can hold a havoc 40 reaper for
Increase recovery rate
It doesn't really work though for AFKs.
Also, 16 bars of stam.
FGS +2 Stam.
I don't do that since +9 stam from curios is hilarious already.
I would die from demon corruption before then so I'm taking +25% dmg vs unyielding lol
And I rather be able to bonk things to the DH since not all the time having 2 others to carry my psyker to the DH.
You won't.
You lose just enough to bring you to slightly above 1 wound.
Why? Does it cap?
Assuming you path mostly left side for ER.
Yes.
It hard caps at around 40% of your hp bar.
Might be a flat number.
But you know when you hit that point, and I have... some ppl mess up their headpops and blow themselves up.
Or just fail at brrrrrrr pops so I need to actually vent to be sure, nuking my bonus peril reduction from Warp Syphon.
The most confusing one was, "I can't hit it, it's moving too fast."
nah you gotta test that out yourself, Imma done with psych 😂
power rating below 410, it's a bug
just speed, it does not touch delay
why does the obscurus feel like it has worse cleave than the deimos
actually it might be placebo and it has a bit better cleave on its horde clear attacks, but since they're not at those dumb up down angles they hit more things
Is Force Greatsword a viable option for auric/havoc or is normal Force Sword outright better?
FGS superior by far in auric
i prefer normal one...
FGS is viable in Havoc 40.
Normal Force Sword only beats FGS in mobility
🤷♂️ sure
But speed isn't that important in Havoc.
At least imo. I only use speed for big, long clutches, and Havoc 40 makes those very, very hard. Pay attention to positioning and speed won't be an issue.
You should have those skills for staff anyway, which has yet worse speed
Everything feels shit cleave on havoc 40 lol
I just dont use melee for horde clear anymore
use wrath
Isn't warp splitting not enough to cut through enemies?
it has uptime problems for melee and isnt as much cleave as wrath
I mean, you can keep it up by using the skill from the FGS, even at no charges just to keep peril up (not to mention swapping to staff isn't that slow
Also, is it less cleave than wrath? I thought it was more
Less
Wrath is +200% at 5 stacks
Warp splitting is at best +100% at 100% peril
So in havoc 40 you need wrath to cleave effectively? Warp splitting doesn't cut it at that point?
no essence slash don kill good 😔
Assuming you want to melee fight hordes, yes
But only wrath, you don't need both of them, right?
only wrath is enough
Think I have another FGS to give it wrath, have to figure what to do with that now free point for a build, Ty folks
Other alternative is Unstable Power + Warpsplitter
lock in with unstable + warp splitter + wrath
Warpsplitter is multiplicative with power blessings instead of additive so it closes the gap towards Wrath better. Wrath is still ghe definite best though for cleave alone.
Still comes down to how you're generating perils
I usually use that with void Blast staff and in mid fight just using the slash to use stored damage and just keep peril at 100%
That'll do it. Scriers Gaze for me does it.
can anybody tell me which stat should I put 60 for my staves?
Warp res
quell speed or warp res
Voidblast, Inferno and Elektro - Warp res
Voidstrike - Blast Radius
Unless you're using voidstrike, you can dump blast radius there
Quell speed dump? 
yea
this looks wise
Won't catch me doing that. (quell speed dump)
Elaborate 
perils management is mostly trivial (you dont actually care to quell 100-0, you only need to shave a burst off the top enough to cast again without exploding)
at havocs active quelling is already shittered to hell so it's even less valuable
battle meditation on most of the meta staffs basically negates any need
the difference between 60 and 80% quell is pretty insignificant to begin with, and solidity (a frequent pick) more than makes up the difference if it really matters to you
yeah warp res is ammo for staffs
quell speed can be seen as reload speed
i know which one i would prefer
I'd rather get to 85 ASAP and get back there in a couple taps 
you still will
only trauma staff shows really significant differences between 60 and 80 for casting cost
id rather cast more and quell less
and if youre running scriers gaze and/or warp unbound i doubly doubt the purpose of dumping warp res
so whats your suggestion for highest difficulty
Just tap the quell a teeny tiny bit every time you cast lol
exactly, its the same result at 60 or 80
you shave off the top, you cast again
the quantity is pretty irrelevant, you just need to be below whatever threshhold you need to not blow yourself up
on assail thats literally 99.9%, on brainburst its 96.9% etc.
And above 85 if you're doing warp rider/shriek iirc
eventually you hit your ceiling and its the same cycle
one or two casts, tap R, repeat
or battle med negates the need to tap R at all
Battle med fucks my rhythm idk how y'all deal with the randomness
I only use it for meme infinite scriers builds
i mean i dont really 'deal' with it, it just exists
i understand the desire to have high perils to minmax your bonuses but not to the point of hyperfocus or detriment lol
I need to edge 
BM keeps me casting without quelling. its ammo back in your gun
if youre using purgatus its basically free
Doesn't purga already have issues getting peril up?
the question is how is it an issue
do you need the high peril for extra warp splitter cleave? not really
do you need it for one with the warp value? most are pairing it with a bubble
is the 10~% damage you would gain from warp rider that consequential compared to bottomless soulblaze application? usually no
But mah high perel!
whatever floats your boat ig
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i equate a lot of the circlejerk nature of perils maxxing to a zealot refusing to fire their gun unless they're withtin 3 meters of the enemy for 'maximum anoint in blood value'
at some point you have gone too far
:3
up to you where that line is
man youtube really hates my adblocker lately
Or sg/dd
videos will launch and relaunch six times over
squeak (that is the build rat runs, which goes against the norm in this community, but it works extremely well for rat)
uBlock Origin on Firefox is stronger than Youtube 
Laughs in zealot that is not afraid to shoot gun when approaching heretics because "boolet now is better than boolet later when I'm already pulling the blade of the Emperor"
"there are two crushers going to town on your skinny body"
say less
the jostar secret technique
Legit has saved my life more than once the skill to recognise when I must retreat as a zealot
Turns out you kill more heretics when you are alive
your DPS is indeed zero when you are dead
jumpscare the crushers by just holding w instead
I tested VB out for dump on quell vs warp as dump. Dumping quell means you need an extra tick. Dumping warp res means you lose an extra small blast (less than half). Dumping WR is better. In reality, both are fine but when we now exist in a place we can dump whatever we want…. Why not WR?
the rules change in havoc is really it
personally i had no strong opinions before, but at high havocs, active quelling is so terrible and pretty much a last resort
you'll still end up doing it, but you'll wish you weren't
Only? Youtube uses 95% of my CPU power and IDK, 16GB RAM.
It really hates adblockers to the point it acts like a CPU miner to try to get you to remove your adblocker.
even with twitch and youtube running simultaneously i dont use more than 2GB of RAM
on opera granted
Not kidding.
Twitch is 1GB by itself.
I just reloaded my Youtube browser, and it's already sitting at 5 GB used.
It leaks as bad as a shoddy made game.
a lot of the havoc modifiers are kinda just why
i assume this is a browser issue
I'm using Firefox.
oh ouch i shouldve really resized that image
apologizes to anyone who opened that on a cellphone lmao
or a 360p CRT
is that wilson dst
Honestly, it only happens with an adblocker, so I'm pretty sure it's just YT being an ass when you have any form of adblocking.
Even a tracker blocker adds to it and I do run Privacy Badger on top.
A limb clinic sieged? Wow
never cared for mankind divided etc.
i played them and i have no lasting memories of any of the games
ur so blocked
invisible war was actually more memorable for me
and then ofc the O.G. deus ex stands alone
mankind divided wasnt bad enough to be angry about and not good enough to care
Yeah. Why BM can be fine on it. I personally use inner tranq instead. But yeah, any way to negate quelling
and they did not feel like deus ex games, they felt like ubisoft games
Mankind Divided, Cyberpunk, inject it right into my veins
they were not bad, just very, very plain
well yeah the deus ex games were old as shit and there is no way games would retain that much complexity nowadays
its why i have no strong memories of them
look at morrowind and skyrim
other than the bottomless piss filter
everything is just piss
the future = yellow halogen glow
apparently
Morrowind
I played that when I was like 11 and got lost on my way to quests all the time
Is that a don't starve catcoon?
(catcoons can be stagger locked)
thats the non boss variant
https://www.reddit.com/user/AliceIsDrawing/
this is the artist
no idea what they are doing lately, presumably they work for Klei because their art is so fucken good
seriously
zamn!!
Wendy really trivializes that boss fight.
Abigail just goes and murderizes all the little bees because they can't move in her attack frames.
Abigail just muderizes ads, thats her whole thing
you'll never want for silk with an abigail around
i was a wendy main because i strongly identified with her desire to die
i wouldve liked wigfried a lot more but ...
when she talks ...
the fucking NOISE
an airplane crashing into an orchestra
my friend would follow me around and inspect things just to trigger the voicelines
and i'd be like "oh my GOD SHUT UP" and she'd laugh at me
still, the choice to use unique instruments for voicework? fantastic
idk i never busted willow out until we got a celestial gate
i only cared for the haha lightning book and the instant farm growth
Willow gets sanity back from lighting things on fire.
in that case quite the opposite, never liked willow LOL
id rather have sanity low so i can farm shadows
Wickerbottom is also quite useful, especially in DST, because she knows how to make stuff you'd need a science machine to get.
ye she kick starts the early game
but the early game is like the second thing you learn
(the first being YES THE NIGHT WILL KILL YOU)
It still means you get to find your base location faster, with more things on you, because everyone will have a backpack.
idk id usually not even build a base until the entire map was discovered
maybe a week away from winter id start to base
meet up after a few days at the start, pool your shit, make one science machine to grab a couple key items, break it down again and return to scouting
willow is like hilariously easy shadow farming
just send bernie to beat up all of them
shadows are already super easy
it only sucks when you are already preoccupied with shit
hard to kite shadows and thirty shit slinging monkeys
Input issue
epic caves moment (900 nightmares and monkeys chasing me)
i just want geeeaaaars
cant wait for webber to get like lunar spiders or whatever
with skill tree
its gonna be silly
webber is a silly little guy and has needed help for a long time
what gun do you take on gun psyker?
heavy las good
laspistol, varks 5, recon, revolvers, bistol (bolt pistol)
I consider gun on psyker heresy but I got a style that a gun would look good with so I decided I will try the forbidden fruit
what would you take on recon or laspistol? blessing and perk wise
The emperor gave us staves for a reason
For both recon and laspistol blessings are dumdum and infurnus. Part of the reason you take guns (other than just liking them) is boss damage. So I do unyielding + flak ( flak is my personal choice)
i don't think infernus is worthwhile on laspis tbh
and yeah laspis maniac adm is definitely noticeable
maniac is somewhat middling and you do want it for flamers and trappers
and yeah infernus ... i mean i have it because of havoc
for recon las, i use dumdum + infernus /unyielding + crit chance
and im too lazy to constantly swap the blessing back and forth
ye crit chance
infernus is pretty good on recon las even outside havoc
not to my personal taste
oh yea recon its still good
laspee not so much, lots of things die to a single headshot or even crit
let alone crit headshot
im still in an awkward spot with laspee
once im on a roll and have 21+ DD stacks constantly and scriers up, i cant even stack dumdum on anything except bosses
or crushers, which is just silly to do
its a strange problem to have
because its still a very good blessing up until that point
so ive not really decided on taking or leaving it yet
every other day im going ghost/desperado
and this works fine until you die, lmao
does psyker laspis really need ghost tho 🤔
cause you gotta start your DD at 0 again, you're at half hp after a rescue, and you now gotta build it all up again
for me, yes, absolutely
if a naked headshot drops a target and it doesnt crit, the time it takes to reacquire and aim at something new to proc empathic evasion is too long for me
i guessit's more reliable
oh you talking about havoc?
and once laspee is scaled up like that with DD + Scriers Precog + fuck knows what else you got going on
things do die in just one shot
wichh is not a lot of shots to bank on a crit
nah for havocs i take ghost infernus every time
park up, plink that pus dummy's head until the burns stack, pick a new guy, repeat
weave in left click assails while you do it, itll keep some ads back
also true aim
god what a fucking class lmao
Thought I had struck gold for a moment before I realised warp res is the dump stat 
you can still dump mobility if you intend on spamming the special rather than using it to boost peril
its still handy to have one around if you dont already
Melk coins tho.
yeah
But they matter way less now.
I used em to get ordos for gambling when my pockets are dry.
yeah they should bring back slot roll crafting i like wasting my time
ye same
I'll grab it for a scriers build then, thanks for the heads up 
but now i have all the cosmetics and weapon skins
i have nothing to buy
i have at least 2 weapons of everything i wanna play
If melk has guaranteed max base curios, I'd buy.
It's not cheap if you don't have diamantine 
they should really do this
sounds like an issue of content drought and not a crafting system issue 
it's like they forgot curios as part of the rework
You will regret that when they rework Melk to sell awesome skins 
curio rework when? my pockets are heavy
never gonna happen
they are selling an eyepatch for 900 aquilas
You need to have faith
Then I'll have something to look forward to. I have 50k right now anyways.
ive had faith in spades i kept so many bases and farmed so many blessings for the crafting update
but that i shant believe in
i bought the dredd zealot helmet yesterday and i felt dirty
5 dollars for a helmet lmfao
i sold my CS cases for it at least
darktide needs gambling
totally forgot to ask earlier what mark does Psyk use for the recon las
I gamble by WR dump base farming. Super dump.
mk vi or mk xii
mk xii for rpm memes
mk vi for ergonomics/ammo efficiency
Most use the fastest one (12)
But pick the one you like more.
Assail helps with ammo. The faster one helps with mettle and EE procs.
the fastest one is good as a dedicated infernus stick.
also infurnus stacking
im used to the 12 from vet so might stick to it
the slower one in practice procs mettle/EE pretty quickly as well
i dislike the slower draw/longer reload/movement slowdown of the XII
i usually end up swapping between the two depending on my mood, both are good
just don't use XIV 
is 60 warp res good on greatsword? or should I make it defences
Warp resistance is dump stat on FGS.
Some builds prefer it to be even lower, but 60 is fine.
so Its good yes?
Ja
okay ty
Dump means the stat with the fewest points.
The stat you take one on, because it's the least good
Siblings, drip check for my new psyker build?
Wanted to use the new helmet but hate the rest of its set
Really struggled to find stuff that matched the helm
You need wider pants, I think. Besides that I like it
skinny jeans on the bottom with football jersey on top
shouldve waited for a helm recolor that fits better
Why
coping with the dead chat
im slopping together a paper with 60% AI usage

dude gonna get 40% score
Getting expelled speed running 😤
ur from the US right?
no one is paid enough to care in europe
We will find out 
thank the emperor im not 🙏
Pretty sure no one cares barring some places.
I've seen some prof score AI work higher. 
its so over
Brazil
brazil jumpscare
@deft stump oh great handler of the devilish fluff i ask of thee for a image of our great mischievous creature
I want to play more psyker, but i need to lvl up weapons..
even though zealot is pretty comfy
i already have repeatedly
Please a lot of zealot and then buy the mastery for psyker weapons instead 
basically what I do. Check psyker ranged weapons tab. See crossover with zealot. Equip those on zealot and go through entire mission with melee only.
and since I have like 10 sec CD on chorus, it becomes comfy damnation build
She is in bed, by that, I mean under a bed asleep.
Since mischievous creature is in med, here a different floof.
i ask of thee for a pat pat picture
those lads aswell
Unfortunately I’m at work 😟
Pets are awesome
She disappeared. 😭
lil toy baby
I pet a different one.
this is nice
The cat does not look amused
Misread. She always wants pets and scritches. She an itchy lil thing. She just sleepy.
Okay, to be fair sleepy is like the standard setting for pets, that and eating
Her other setting. 😭
Zoomie setting
My dogs only get zoomie when hungry
more recent
Seems about right.
high quality cat

anyone wanna run one or two games?
Then no
i can in about 15 min.


@upper sun @strong gulch Whenever ready https://discord.gg/NZW8edPM 
what perks do ppl take for rmb electro i accidentally reperked thinking it was another weapon
🥺
big thank
IDK what they did to Hadron's shop tbh. It seems to always default to the top most item when you back out.
walking only h40 run
Yes
im out you can take my spot
Did you carry?
no
Why not 
went back on ogryn

You have better net so should be able to carry harder, yes.
Real
Messing up my muscle memory
Good thing it's my chainaxe for Vet. I don't use it anyway. XD
Good for what? 
i just ran warp unbound scrier but i blew myself up a few times, what does the 10s lingering effect passive icon look like?
please use protection
it's a lifesaver
You mean double protection.
this is the only protection i use
The talent itself is protection, wdym?
So, normal.
it's like a condom that breaks on a timer
downloading right now, gonna goon with assail shards responsibly
yeah that happens too
I want to go CRUNCH
Neow
CRUNCH
Use double walls for more crunch
theres a "wooooomph" sound that plays when scriers lingering effects end
its pretty high priority for sound so it rarely gets drowned out
Might be too late, lul.
@fallow stream is this what you need? idk if this would help with you getting downed because of the knifes or whatever
no woomphing only numbers now
i can edge to infinity
You also get some distinct striations around the edges of the screen.
It's more obvious when in motion and is there even at 100% peril
WU, aka warp unbound, has feathering or striation effects around screen edges and ending sound.
Is it an intended feature that the FGS feels like walking through wet concrete if you spam more than 5 lights without resetting?
it's like doing too many light attacks just makes your dodge eff negative it's so weird
I'll have to record it the next time it's happening.
There is a mechanic with speed boots right after an attack and vary by attack. Timing affacts it.
this is the only weapon in the game where I have this issue
i just thought it was a glitch lmao
iv had this happen before aswell and it sucks
that and blowing yourself up even with warp unbound being active
seems to also have that "click too fast" issue
assail / warp unbound def has an issue where if you spam it too fast even with it active there's like a 10% chance you'll blow yourself up
its feels the same as whe you run out of dodge on relic you just get quicksand feet or some shit
it's so cringe because you can't activate dodge conditionals and you just get owned
Seems unnecessary tbh
Psyker should be smart enough to get freed by enemy ogryns 
I have that mod.
I die because warp unbound can bug and you can die during it.
Oh. Sorry
Warp unbound and Scriers is supposed to give you pop immunity, but sometimes it doesnt.
itsa bug
Noob... 🚬
i think that happened just now in my game
fatshark my beloved
@brazen rampart
Can you show me a staff that doesn't need warp charges or left tree stuff to be good
I want a staff to work with my ep build
Instead of a melee focused ep build
I was thinking the bowling ball staff
Or purg
Inferno works the easiest with EP BB.
If you're doing smite, EK is the easiest fit.
I would rather die than touch smite.
EP is a blitz focused build.
Voidstrike needs dd so that's out.
Your best bet would be either trauma or ek, with that in mind.
But both are very peril heavy.
I would rather die than touch smite.
I use assail
Than you for specifying.
Trauma calls for flak, crit chance, blazing spirit, and warp nexus.
Ek calls for flak, crit chance, warp flurry, and warp nexus.
Dump warp resistance on both.
Unless you want to run rending trauma for whatever reason.
In which case it's flak, elites, rending shockwave, and warp flurry.
Forgive him, he's very touchy about playing anything that isn't zealout.
He bastardized my glorious gunker setup for assail aux nodes...
assail aux nodes are fun
My build neither needs them, nor can it afford them.
im running those right now you just brr them out and they clear hordes for free
He just likes to spam them.
For EP assail. This might work. If you don't need or want the toughness gen from soulstealer, you can put the point in EE or maybe ethereal shards.
It doesn't need them cause you don't like killing things
I do that's why I MOG you
No scriers?
It doesn't need them because I have this big fuckass sword that obliterates everything I swing it at.
In melee range. Noob.
fgs?
Most don't do EP assail, that's why I asked is BB or smite. Only EP was asked.
You are literally playing with darts that heat seek heads, you don't get to say anything about mogging.
The game plays itself for you smh.
force great sword
I use mk8, but I won't say mk6 is bad after playing with it for a bit.
Ye I'm asking why no scriers on ep assail
I just feel icky using only lights for horde clear.
I wouldn't but if you want SG go for it. Funny WU things.
Okie dokie
sorry i was asking if that was his weapon
Thanks potato
Shriek is OP.
oh gotcha
What's it's cd again
how does mk8 feel?
Yes, fgs is the weapon I use on my setup.
is it better single target?
No.
I love mk8
sorry mk6
Mk6 has a way better single target profile.
not 8
Then honestly I'd do DD with assail and FGS.
Wait which one has pa stab
I am hitting mauler oneshot breakpoints far easier with the poke so I'm chewing through elites faster.
Mk6 heavies alternate an overhead and a poke.
Ye I just need a ranged build for when I have more than 1 zealot
I like dd but fuck ep assail is so strong and fun
I drop like 1.3k a game
DD buffs both. DD assail is not that far behind EP assail; but EP only buffs blitz.
do you run different blessings on mk6?
Mk6 is definitely better for having a quick elite deleter as an auxiliary weapon to a staff build.
im doing wrath unstable with scrier
Mk8 is better for general purpose.
with mk8 atm
Unstable is bait.
even with scrier?
Wrath + shred.
I run the 10 cleave setup for ep and weave knives into my melee rotation. A 10 cleave guaranteed crit knife every other swing is brutal
If youre running crack of bone like you should, you shouldn't be building peril until you can't physically keep it down anymore.
For reference, these are my talents.
Unstable power would find very little usage in my setup.
I prefer the consistentcy of free cleave and crit chance.
Could try these.
I'd even argue EP has more kill potential than dd just cause fgs and assail tend to like... one or twoshot shit without it anyway.
Just go on mobile gameslantern.
i just thought unstable made sense since i sit on 100% a lot
I haven't run either of them tho.
Yeah I don't sit on 100% like at all.
ok lemme throw it out real quick
My peril is close to 0 at all times with this setup.
My only gen is KD, fgs special, and assail.
Nooblodyte..
It's meant to maximize a max charge warpshock slash's damage and ride out warp unbound.
Iirc it's 135% bonus damage to warpshock slash once I stack up everything.
I always quell to 0 immediately for mininmal warp rider benefits
Absolutely shits on literally everything. I can do 2/3 of a bulwark on damnation with it.
So if there's a flamer or a purg mixed into that mess, that will wipe a room full of bulwarks in one swing.
this is what im trying in auric mael atm
since i never ran scriers build before
but its really fun
Yeah I see why you stay at high peril now, you don't take either tranq through slaughter or crack of bone.
Unyielding also isn't super necessary on your recon, could swap to unarmored.
High peril best peril
I stay at 75%+ the whole game
i was just taking it for boss damage i think
unyielding is for bosses right?
And your sword doesn't need flak.
Yes.
The thing is, though, that the recon itself isn't what does boss damage for you, it's the fire.
And you should run cara + unyielding on your sword.
It does.
I still think it's silly fgs can onetap crushers and bulwark with minimal setup but zealot needs like buffs and fotf
But the thing is, you stack up fire with your gun, then swap to melee.
ok ill change that now
Your melee, having unyielding, will buff the fire.
DOTs are buffed by whatever weapon you're holding.
oh thats really useful to know
ill have to check if i have that crossover with some of my vet builds
Just wait until you hear how anoint in blood works for zealout. :)
zealot is the last class i havent played yet
Uncanny buffs zealot flame nades and lets you kill maulers and half hp crushers
Skullcrusher also affects DOTs.
Best class in game, second only to psyker in pure kill potential
yeah i started levelling it with a friend but its the only time i play the class
it feels really strong and fun to play
the amount of difference in fun levelling templar in comparison to ogryn
is just sad
DOT's are considered 0m away for that talent, so it just always has the max benefit for them.
This also means anoint is good on infernus recons.
Too bad recon sucks on zealot
thanks for the tips anyway ive adjusted some of the perks
would you still keep unstable with the build youve seen now? or should i still try out shred
I would drop the assail aux nodes and have fun with not having peril ever again.
:)
When this cat gonna od
Is....is it smoking through its ass?
Well, that part does absorb things
That's why suppositories and cocaine pins exists
The real question is who made these drug kitten images. And why.
internet
how it feels to spread misinformation
you have to be close for anoint


