psyker-class

[patent mango]

is that a smyker

are they actually real

[deft stump]

Yes.

[patent mango]

aw man i was spam pushing a poxburster

but then a trapper shoewd up

adhd is killing me

they sent a distraction burster

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-stuck-tangled-net-gif-13900824

[patent mango]

contained forever

[upper sun]

to be fair the team was mid

lemme check the instant replay

[patent mango]

i gotta try to not good around then

lmao

goof*

[upper sun]

yeah my ult got rubber banded

[patent mango]

slopshark slop servers

[strong gulch]

servers have been pretty bad lately

[patent mango]

yea these last 2 years they've been guh

[upper sun]

it didnt push and didnt let me ult

[muted grove]

Not to be controversial but I kinda don’t like smyker

[patent mango]

most dont like smykers

[lone wing]

me when i press the VoC button and i hear the trigger but nothing happens

[patent mango]

smykers i'd say is anyone that uses smite like +60% of the time tho

[upper sun]

check the video 🚬

i was hammering it

[muted grove]

Smyker is fun for a day then is boring for you and everyone else

[lone wing]

it's fun not at all

[lone wing]

i had to use it for penance and i wanted to commit crime

[upper sun]

chasm station?

[strong gulch]

no guts no glory

[muted grove]

Skinny legend

[patent mango]

what the frick is going on

LOL

[strong gulch]

He forgot his legs

[upper sun]

maybe your game would load correctly if u didnt have weapon customization

[patent mango]

im using mooore mods

[muted grove]

Pants off dance off obv

[deft stump]

Why spam it when lagging... But if you do it with Chorus, you risk interrupting your own Chorus lul.

[upper sun]

@patent mango we ready or no

[patent mango]

ok

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-slugcat-scug-gif-7829095757501516807

[upper sun]

@patent mango the other psyker is gonna be really good or really bad

no inbetween

calling it now

[patent mango]

slop or peak call it

[strong gulch]

pic

[upper sun]

char name same as user name

those people are always either really good or really bad

[deft stump]

Beans, Beans, Beans! Send @cobalt sluice a Psyker random build whenever lul.

[cobalt sluice]

thanks 🙏🏻

[deft stump]

Hi, you know I'm bad. I even say it, bottom barrel heresy gaymer.

[strong gulch]

kantrael, DS2, assail, elite aura, SG, warp siphon, crystalline will

[cobalt sluice]

time to hunt a kantrael

[deft stump]

Have fun, lmao.

[cobalt sluice]

the skill tree looks so deformed

[deft stump]

XD

[strong gulch]

✨ build diversity✨

[deft stump]

RNG be RNG.

Though I personally think Crystalline Will should be an optional pick.

[strong gulch]

I put a yes no roll on the bonus terrible nodes.

RNG said do it

[willow hazel]

Some taxe propaganda

[deft stump]

Wait, so weapon marks are optional for trashier weapons?

[strong gulch]

Ye. The popular and commonly used ones have a mk assaigned while something like chain axe does not.

It's isn't evenly done tho.

[deft stump]

Ah.

[strong gulch]

Like recons are popluar but I don't have a MK listed

but also there are only 4 staves

[deft stump]

Lul.

[strong gulch]

I also have a staff or gun wheel tho

for when RNG is being all gun all the time

[deft stump]

Would be tiring to add an extra optional wheel for diff marks.

Or for when someone wants to go either gun or staffs. Although... there is one "bad" staff there.

[upper sun]

no i mean people who name their chars the same as their user names

@patent mango see

told you about the psyker smh

[patent mango]

oh

true

[upper sun]

do you have the scoreboard for that

[patent mango]

yea

y

[deft stump]

Uhhh... Clad? You do know I do that, RIGHT?

[upper sun]

nooo im sorry

[strong gulch]

I do it too. I am both the terrible player and the good one.

I am RNG

[upper sun]

your chars arent called potato

[strong gulch]

Lol

[patent mango]

warhammer

[strong gulch]

Steam vs DT name tho

[upper sun]

🤔

[patent mango]

oh my god

[deft stump]

I'm more surprised your forgot that lmao.

[patent mango]

im still playing kinetic presence

lemme c progrses

[upper sun]

how do you not have the psyker penances yet

[patent mango]

all i've done is stab people

the entire time

[strong gulch]

What if this is my Ogryn origin story

[upper sun]

post the scoreboard

[strong gulch]

that's prgress at least

[patent mango]

yea

its last penance on psyker

[upper sun]

i wanted to see the zealot but he left 😭

[patent mango]

lemme post

did i crash or not

lets find out

i did not

but i did dc

[sturdy reef]

why is the zealot named woman

😭

[upper sun]

damn how did u kill so much chaff

[quartz barn]

having scores enabled

[patent mango]

uh

sword

[upper sun]

because i made her for the sole reason of hearing the female judge lines

[deft stump]

That's Clad.

[sturdy reef]

female agitator is good

[patent mango]

i think it froze my game

[sturdy reef]

the scottish wannabe one

[patent mango]

this is peak

[sturdy reef]

become a taxer psyker warudo

[deft stump]

No, that's Fanatic.

[patent mango]

noooooooooo

[sturdy reef]

oh is it

I gottem mixed up

yes

join the club

[patent mango]

noo...

[quartz barn]

taxe bad

[sturdy reef]

its way safer into hordes

[patent mango]

uh

[deft stump]

I use fanatic so I know.

[patent mango]

i dont really have a problem with horde

[quartz barn]

wait why do you even need safety for hordes

[patent mango]

idk

[deft stump]

Agitator is the master of mankind spammer.

From memory.

[sturdy reef]

yeah ur right

[deft stump]

Chaos uses her.

[patent mango]

steam recording is so sogged

[sturdy reef]

just use obs

[deft stump]

@plucky flax

[patent mango]

i dont thinky that clips

[deft stump]

@plucky flax Also, hi.

[patent mango]

why does steam overlay not work properly

[deft stump]

Maybe time to restart steam.

[patent mango]

maybe

[vernal temple]

I always turn off Steam overlay on all of my games

[patent mango]

@upper sun r u done with dt

[upper sun]

ye

[patent mango]

ok

[upper sun]

o7

[patent mango]

imma go make slop weapons

[plucky flax]

Hi.

[patent mango]

i got it back

lmao

[strong gulch]

[sturdy reef]

new vet weapon leak

[patent mango]

ohhh my goggg

its sooo peak

[feral verge]

viable

[patent mango]

soooo peak.........

[strong gulch]

@upper sun

[upper sun]

i think you might be the only person that enjoys levelling

[deft stump]

Need more. Doesn't cover the screen. Bad mod.

[strong gulch]

Maybe no curio character

[patent mango]

i think i've peaked

just entirely unusable slop

[deft stump]

If it doesn't cover the entire screen, it's not good enough.

[patent mango]

its over..

[strong gulch]

It's so funny tho

Just shake your gun at em

[patent mango]

exterminatus gun

[hearty wolf]

Ez

[strong gulch]

they die from shock and awe

[strong gulch]

what this

[patent mango]

mhwilds beta

[hearty wolf]

^

[patent mango]

they didnt rework insect glaive yet

so im waiting lol

[deft stump]

You can join by going to Steam and requesting access to the beta.

[fiery stratus]

Big boolet

[vagrant cedar]

no laser sight?

[patent mango]

nah i just wanted the big boolets

[marble crater]

actually doing a psyker for each personality

[strong gulch]

They're all the same voice.

[marble crater]

why then

[strong gulch]

Nobody knows

[marble crater]

Actual unhinged behavior

[strong gulch]

though

cald was talking about players with the same user name and in game names always ended up with that player being really good or bad

I said that's me with steam and DT

but Clad meant discord and DT names

[deft stump]

They are ALL the same in my case.

[upper sun]

no i meant steam names

[marble crater]

I did that at the start, didn't like it so I deleted my first psyker and leveled a new one

[upper sun]

but that doesnt negate my rule

[upper sun]

ur good

[marble crater]

None of this explains why you are leveling another psyker with the same personality though, you can change names and with mods you already have enough loadouts

[plucky flax]

Lvl 1 to havoc 40 hardcore run.

[strong gulch]

I deleted my first psyker too. I was just dumb tho. The game crashed and sent to the character select screen and I hit delete instead of play.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Not enough loadouts ever. Also they are who they are.

😭

[strong gulch]

The other people when we're playing a strategy game and I'm just picking shit at random.

Then my other mode of taking things so seriously it's like life or death.

[paper dust]

god i wanna play a strategy game where i design vehicul

[strong gulch]

hnefatafl

[paper dust]

or just play a vehicul design game

[strong gulch]

scarp mechanic and the zelda game

[paper dust]

mmmh i need to withelist scrapt mechanic

[deft stump]

Still, same everywhere.

[marble crater]

Earth 2160

[strong gulch]

not strategy either but Long Drive

[stoic mauve]

Can i see ur load out and Talent tree

[patent mango]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dbb38d7-166b-42ff-8f77-af604105acbe/warp-knight-melee-psyker

its this except i was using heavy las that time

i mostly made this on gameslantern to reuse that image tbh

[stoic mauve]

Thanks buddy

[earnest quarry]

Hey, ogryn brain here. I have a question for someone who has extended data on this particular subject. I cannot figure out through personal testing recently. Is penetration of the soul still broken?

[patent mango]

yea i think so

should only work on soulblaze rn

[verbal thistle]

It is broken and does nothing

[patent mango]

does it work on soulblaze at least

[verbal thistle]

not in my test

[patent mango]

i c

[earnest quarry]

okay, thats what I've been confused by. I am seeing warp fire stacks doing thingys me thnk appearing to apply differently. I have no true data, but it looked like rending was applying to that.

[earnest quarry]

Its so hard, as I am testing I couldn't tell very well. I thought perhaps it was effecting warp fire stacks spreading to flak and carapace.

[summer prairie]

it can't be doing anything because it's not used in the final rending calculation at all

[patent mango]

slop trio (perilous assault, mind in motion and charged strike) is so over pots joined

squad now

[earnest quarry]

Am I imaging this, or did they change the way burning dot functioned with rending in the past few months>?

[summer prairie]

very unlikely

[deft stump]

Tell Beans to add to his wheel of psyker builds.

[late sapphire]

If pots worked it'd double soulblaze damage vs carapace

And do just about nothing for anything else

[patent mango]

pots for warp slash

🔥

taht'd probably do basically nothing

[earnest quarry]

I've been getting crazy results against armored targets recently and I can't figure out the order of operations. Today took pots off and was getting same results. Thanks for clearing that up a bit.

Just needed to hear the pro brain boys tell me no, stop it.

[strong gulch]

You might be looking at inferno's direct damage and SB's DoT.

[thorn pond]

Does anyone know if the +5% ranged dmg talent perk applies to the staffs as well? more especifically to the left-click and the charge voidstrike blast?

I tested it but its kinda inconsistent

[marble crater]

I don't know, but usually you are either going to take it or not simply based on your build pathing, if that helps you somehow.
I haven't seen anyone going out of their way to pick it

[thorn pond]

for me its optional

And to me the voidblast staff needs more dmg so

[marble crater]

Yeah don't, there are a lot of talents that are better to take

[patent jacinth]

You should run scriers for voidstrike

Go bowling for real

[patent mango]

the scary 5% ranged dmg node...........

[nocturne dust]

it does

[thorn pond]

I tried but i like taking bubble and use it offensively

[thorn pond]

For both attacks? LMB and the charge?

[nocturne dust]

Should

I haven't tested it recently tho

[lone wing]

well uh, you're wrong lol

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark could always pull stealth shenanigans

Very simple way to test tho

[strong gulch]

Yes. The +5 ranged damage does work on staves; BUT it doesn't work on trauma/ voidblast's RMB/ secondary.

It may work on surge/ EK RMB, but that staff's RMB does random damage. So testing BPs is annoying af.

edit: Note that it works on inferno's direct damage and not on DoTs.

[lone wing]

voidblast is incredibly strong and needs zero buffs

[nocturne dust]

Use a spare loadout, grab every node required to get to the ranged %, shoot a couple blasts and note dmg, then take the ranged dmg node

[thorn pond]

That makes more sense

it would explain the inconsistencies in my tests

[thorn pond]

i disagree but i respect your opinion

[nocturne dust]

I disagree with your disagreeing

[patent mango]

voidblast is crazy good

[marble crater]

Yeah, please buff voidblast

[patent mango]

unsure if it needs a nerf though

[strong gulch]

pls buff

[thorn pond]

I did that test but @strong gulch info makes sense and would explain some of the inconsistencies.

[nocturne dust]

Voidblast and Inferno are the 2 strongest staves, and possibly the strongest weapons in game, lol

[patent mango]

i think inferno does need a nerf

[lone wing]

it is not an opinion it's objective fact

[thorn pond]

Not saying it isn't but needing zero buffs? nah

[prime elk]

remove blaze away

[lone wing]

voidblast is old trauma staff ye?

[fiery stratus]

Trauma doesn't do insane direct damage, but the stagger is kinda ridiculous. You can keep knocking anything down repeatedly, en masse until they get dead

[patent mango]

mayb idk

[upper sun]

remove blaze away

[patent mango]

i just dont like constant inf cleave

[marble crater]

Remove clad

[lone wing]

yeah trauma staff is 2nd strongest staff in the game

[prime elk]

psyker bypassing gameplay mechanics go brrrrrt

[lone wing]

purge staff (the fire one) is THE strongest in the game

[nocturne dust]

personal problem

[upper sun]

who in their right mind put blaze away on it anyways

[patent mango]

fatshark

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

bruh why not brutal momentum on thammer while you're at it

[patent mango]

lmao

[lone wing]

this right here is why it is the strongest in the game

[strong gulch]

The same ones who gave DS to zealots.

[patent mango]

shrimply cap inferno cleave

it'd be hilarious

[prime elk]

give it the evis cap

[patent mango]

peak

[lone wing]

i saw dorn mention it earlier, max burn stacks need to be reduced

[patent mango]

make its cap like idk 100 or whatever

[lone wing]

and honestly that's true

[nocturne dust]

Bromentum would be trash because it does nothing to service funny one-shot memes

[buoyant maple]

Blaze away is actually very easy to fix

[upper sun]

damn thats crazy
creeping flames

[buoyant maple]

Just make it ranged strength only, instead of total strength

[lone wing]

something like 10 stacks max or something

currently it's 16 but can be overstacked with shriek

[patent mango]

cant they just hardcap it at 16

[buoyant maple]

Max is 31

Currently

[thorn pond]

Ppl going from never using purgatus to it becoming meta is one of the weirdest changes i've seen on psyker.

[lone wing]

of soulblaze applied from the purge staff?

[patent mango]

purg isnt that fun to use imo

[thorn pond]

Aside from everyone tapping out of FS for DS after the dodge nerf

[buoyant maple]

Max is 31 from all sources

[fiery stratus]

Blame fatshark school of balancing

[nocturne dust]

The max is actually 15, 16 is it bypassing the max with a crit because funny programming shenanigans

[patent mango]

but in a more difficult gamemode i can see them actually switching to it

[thorn pond]

i believe in you i've never used it

[patent mango]

i used it for 1 round and i missed my greatsword after the first 3 minutes

[nocturne dust]

If you hit 15 and then crit, you'll stay at 15, but if you crit on 14 you go to 16 (and eventually decay to 15 cuz Inferno can't refresh 16)

[patent mango]

thats silly

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark programming

[fiery stratus]

@thorn pond Trauma good

[marble crater]

Buff purgatus, this is unacceptable

[fiery stratus]

Thiccfish

[patent mango]

trauma stagger could get a nerf mayb

its silly

[strong gulch]

Global cap of 31 SB stacks. Purg/ infero's own cap is 15 (16 if last nit is a crit).

[thorn pond]

Thats literally the only use of the staff tho

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus out-bursting Gunlugger Ogryn when

[patent mango]

idk i dont like a staff being used in melee range

[thorn pond]

Trauma without stagger is just a worse voidstrike

[fiery stratus]

But it does stagger

[fiery stratus]

[patent mango]

trolled

[nocturne dust]

I use every staff in melee

[patent mango]

and thats silly

[thorn pond]

Wich is funny because voidstrike with stagger is a nerf on itself since makes it harder to hit the headshots

[nocturne dust]

I mean, not really

As long as you have dodges, staves are free damage

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/whBMoGJmnh8

[patent mango]

just feel like melee should handle close range not your ranged weapon

[marble crater]

Trauma circle is OP for lights out modifier

[patent mango]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

That's why I kill things with the first shot

[lone wing]

i see, well point proven that's way too many stacks. needs to be nerfed heavily

[thorn pond]

Not every class can handle a clust of bullwarks, ragers and maulers in melee. You take trauma for this occasions.

[fiery stratus]

If they nerf that, that would make it less good

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the way they've designed the game... Idk how they'd make staves ever not be usable in melee without dumpstering them entirely

[fiery stratus]

Nah every class can handle it, as long as you're not using devils claw or some shit.

[nocturne dust]

Like, you pull out a revolver to hit specials, you pull out ranged in melee all the time

[lone wing]

i take trauma never and never have issues in those situations

trauma is a crutch

[patent mango]

every class can handle that

[lone wing]

use a better, more fun weapon

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-gif-18219884

[patent mango]

make stagger not as strong

[nocturne dust]

everything is a crutch

[strong gulch]

It is worth noting that a psyker on their own doesn't hit the global cap regularly. A LOT has to be happening for that to happen.

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-gif-18219884

[nocturne dust]

I use Voidstrike in melee

against hordes

[patent mango]

voidstrike in melee is more reasonable yea

[nocturne dust]

It ain't the stagger

[patent mango]

its less aoe

[thorn pond]

My point was that trauma is good for that situation that are melee related i don't know what u talking about

[lone wing]

like im taking fgs and a gun and clearing hordes faster than a fotf zealot is

[strong gulch]

If there are multiple psykers shrieking constantly, then the global 31 SB cap is easily hit.

[patent mango]

maybe silly but its slow and more single target

[thorn pond]

but not every build

[lone wing]

trauma is good in EVERY situation except bosses

like the fuck?

[fiery stratus]

Traumas mostly fine for ranged stuff too tbh, it reaches pretty far. I hardly ever need brainburst for specials and whatnot

[marble crater]

Fgs range is a crutch in melee

[thorn pond]

doesn't make sense especially in havoc and with voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

'more single target'

[patent mango]

yea it isnt really single target

lmao

[nocturne dust]

Me annihilating the whole horde in a few seconds: yes, very single

[strong gulch]

They did tho. Trauma can't keep things staggered like it used to.

[lone wing]

it can

[thorn pond]

again i don't think u are understanding the argument

[patent mango]

it was worse?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you don't take Voidstrike into Havoc

[fiery stratus]

It takes like 3-4-5 full charges to blow up a crusher with the trauma. The trade off is that you can do that to 5 at one time

[lone wing]

i watched it happen literally earlier today

[strong gulch]

It was better.

[patent mango]

i mean worse as in no likey

[nocturne dust]

Havoc is like custom built to make Voidstrike cry

[thorn pond]

I do depends on your team comp

[fiery stratus]

traumas stupidly good in havoc if you're smart and know how to use choke points

[lone wing]

oh you're throwing LOL

[thorn pond]

Do you use reddit by any chance?

[late sapphire]

i feel like a lot of darktide bugs are one line fixes they just refuse to do

[nocturne dust]

You can do it. Very suboptimal at High Havoc.

[lone wing]

wrong word but trauma is unfun

[thorn pond]

getting some real reddit vibes

[late sapphire]

idk maybe they should open the game to pull requests

[patent mango]

lmao

[strong gulch]

No. Crushers and the like have a knick down cooldown. They are immune to trauma knock down for a small bit after they get up.

[nocturne dust]

lmao

I'm being profiled 😭

[strong gulch]

Trauma stagger still silly strong

[lone wing]

all im saying is, don't defend a weapon saying it's not strong enough when it is one of the 5 strongest weapons in the ENTIRE game

[thorn pond]

And still the only special thing about the staff

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/KDE17OkUGvw

[marble crater]

I don't think they meant you

[fiery stratus]

Trauma trades off the insane direct damage for the aoe and stagger.

[late sapphire]

you need to flick your voidstrike so the double balls hit two columns

[patent mango]

no kill counter...

[nocturne dust]

Well then who did they mean

[patent mango]

it'd be so fire

[lone wing]

because you will be called out for being a dumbass

[nocturne dust]

Flicking annoying tho

[late sapphire]

but the collats...

[strong gulch]

Did anyone say that? I was just pointing out the inaccuacy of saying tauma can perma keep things knocked down.

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-square-pants-i-dont-really-feel-like-it-sleeping-sleep-no-thanks-gif-5384362

[late sapphire]

All staves can perma knock down enemies

its called killing

[patent mango]

man trauma and inferno are so strong we should really nerf ogryn

[thorn pond]

Seems you prioritize learning to play a videogames instead of learning social cues and normal behaviour

[lone wing]

never said it could but it is insanely strong

[thorn pond]

Not reason to just offend ppl for no reason

[lone wing]

oh i have no filter and refuse to get one
if something i say offends you the door is over there

[patent mango]

no filter andy

[thorn pond]

Yeah i know your age from that comment

[lone wing]

guess then

lol

[marble crater]

I think you know now

[patent mango]

3

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laughing-don't-laugh-don'tlaugh-ishowspeed-laughing-gif-15284676702826611657

Trauma is the strongest weapon in the game

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[patent mango]

what have you done

[lone wing]

fucking redditors man lmao

[patent mango]

-2

[late sapphire]

Having no filter is commonly referred to as being a cunt or a minge even

But who cares man

it's a chat on discord

[late sapphire]

Go blow up some heretics

[thorn pond]

This type of edgy players always make me ashamed of playing the game

[nocturne dust]

This is a videogame discord

[marble crater]

Asozial

[strong gulch]

Re reading and you're right.

Still though. Trauma can't keep things staggered like it used to. (this was a good change) My bad for mis-reading.

[patent mango]

yea them becoming immune is cool

specially ogryns should really lock in past that

[fiery stratus]

See all of this is more reason that every weapon should do the exact same flat damage so everything is balanced.

[nocturne dust]

When the absolute karking karker did anyone normal and well-adjusted socially join a videogame discord and not immediately get banished to the shadow realm

[lone wing]

i care not honestly, plenty of friends and it's not changed in quite a while
the rare case of someone getting upset with what i say is a them issue

[lone wing]

you're all good, trauma needed the nerf but it still needs one. as does purge

[nocturne dust]

Every weapon should be revolver

[thorn pond]

Sad part is in some years the only playerbase remaining is going to be ppl like that who will gatekeep the game for more players and complain that the devs don't do anything to atract new players

[late sapphire]

Good point

We should go to chaos wastes rules

Random weapon upgrades only

[thorn pond]

Happens everytime

[patent mango]

yea i think trauma and purg are silly rn

[late sapphire]

trauma and purg are silly because havoc is stupid and dumb

[patent mango]

probably

[strong gulch]

I hope we get this.

[patent mango]

increasing mass just leads to inf cleave meta

[fiery stratus]

Nah this game will die long before the elitests are the only thing left. Fatshark will stop paying for the servers in about 2-3 years

[patent mango]

reducing ammo just obliterates gunlugger

[nocturne dust]

*Havoc is silly

[patent mango]

silly is silly rn

[thorn pond]

prob yeah we might get 2 more years if we lucky

[bright garnet]

I'm experimenting with a new build on psyker, and getting some interesting results. I'd like to try it out in Havoc, cuz I think it might be a viable alternative to Infernus Staff for aggregate DPS.

Take a look at this scoreboard. Notice anything unusual?

[thorn pond]

yes

[patent mango]

darktide will die in 1 year like vermintide 2 did

[thorn pond]

theres a guy named rat

[nocturne dust]

The entire issue is Havoc being just a bunch of buffs to all the mechanics and expecting everything to be fine when every mechanic is brought outside its normal numerical range

[late sapphire]

You did less than a mil damage

[fiery stratus]

The thing with vermintide though is that theres no servers for fatshark to pay for

So that can survive with 7 people playing

[patent mango]

dt servers probably cost like a donut

[late sapphire]

I always thought the matchmaking was negotiated over fatshark servers

Or is it via steam now?

[fiery stratus]

Of course, they're the cheapest and worst servers you can get

[nocturne dust]

Servers were a mistake

[fiery stratus]

Should've just made it p2p

[patent mango]

just run it singleplayer

[thorn pond]

Cue to all the players who ask for solo mode in every patch

[fiery stratus]

That'll be the last thing if its ever added during the games life cycle

[lone wing]

vt2 has it's own connection issues

[nocturne dust]

Almost like that was promised before the game released

[marble crater]

Doubt that steam would also host us console players

[deft stump]

Still better than P2P in some cases. 300 ping vs 800 ping.

[nocturne dust]

A whole heaping less of them, sure

[fiery stratus]

I don't have many connection problems on vermintide, unless the useless host migration is going,

[thorn pond]

Hopefully they add that so i don't have to play with the same aforementioned players

[nocturne dust]

I have never had connection issues before Darktide.

[earnest quarry]

(This was with a smite/void strike build)

[late sapphire]

Yeah i figured

[nocturne dust]

Darktide bad.

[deft stump]

Have you tried 1k ping VT2?

[thorn pond]

true game doesn't even have a good end game mechanic

[fiery stratus]

Thats more a problem with region in relation to the host though

[lone wing]

for the most part yeah, i had to add it as an exclusion so i could play it without getting dced randomly though

[nocturne dust]

Living in the middle of nowhere issue

[strong gulch]

oh gotcha

[fiery stratus]

If someone more local is hosting it wont be that bad

[thorn pond]

Its been months since i checked my inventory for new stuff

[late sapphire]

But anyways, running just the matchmaking and account info for vt2 probably is so cheap and easy it's maybe a tenner a month

[strong gulch]

many number confuse brain

[deft stump]

That's connecting to someone in Australia.

[feral verge]

number make me mad. word make me mad. letter make me mad.

[deft stump]

I'm pretty sure it's going to triple connecting to EU, lmao.

[fiery stratus]

funny how vermintide has a worse system for itemization than this game. Use Swift Slaying on 90% of weapons.

[nocturne dust]

Wish every PvE game did the old style of people hosting their own servers and then some would be official servers

[thorn pond]

For reference check alien swarm reactive drop

[late sapphire]

if there was a swift slaying blessing in darktide i'd also have it on 90% of my weapons

[nocturne dust]

Imagine needing attack speed

[fiery stratus]

bad design be like

[buoyant maple]

Applies to inferno’s both attack modes, does not affect soulblaze DOT (which is not ranged damage)

Applies to electrokinetic’s both attack modes (charged attack randomly targets body parts which results in random damage)

Applies to voidblast’s quick shots (charged attack is explosive damage, not ranged damage)

Applies to voidstrike’s both attack modes

[fiery stratus]

Tbh I never take attack speed on pretty much anything, even with zealot

[nocturne dust]

Me with my combat axe and no atk spd buffs slaying heretics all day

[marble crater]

You are slaying them all day, because it takes that long due to lack of attack speed

[thorn pond]

cool so it does work for the voidstrike sencondary noice

[deft stump]

Kill faster, more time to slack.

[nocturne dust]

No, I am slaying them all day because there are an infinite number of them

[buoyant maple]

If also affects brain rupture’s damage because it’s coded as ranged damage

[nocturne dust]

some AI director or something keeps spawning them

[thorn pond]

lol

[marble crater]

Kill faster

[thorn pond]

Imaking taking more than 2 secs to kill a bullwark in melee

[deft stump]

So you need more kills per sec.

[nocturne dust]

Well, no, you see, I kill all of them that spawn, but then you just wait a bit and more spawn

Infinite murder glitch

[fiery stratus]

Traumas fine as is, purg could use a wee nerf cuz little op

soulblaze in general probably couldnt hurt for a little balancing

[thorn pond]

and buff voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

sorry, you said heavy-handed nerfs that completely destroy the class?

[patent mango]

heavy handed? like ogryn? ogryn nerfs?

[nocturne dust]

More Ogryn nerfs

[patent mango]

made ogryn twice as big

new crawl function added

at 10% speed

[fiery stratus]

can we just stick all the psyker talents in a random number generator and throw them in random spots around the tree

thatd be great...

[round blaze]

give ogryn horde-clearing farts

[patent mango]

let ogryn take the zealot and throw them

[fiery stratus]

^

[thorn pond]

Also buff smite so the smite only players actually do smth usefull its easier to change the spell than the players

[late sapphire]

Whos is this Al Directore guy

Must be some powerful heretic

[patent mango]

buff smite make it stun the user

[fiery stratus]

remove smite and don't replace that blitz slot with anything

[patent jacinth]

I am going to kill you

[fiery stratus]

just leave it empty

[nocturne dust]

me about to get every single good node straight down the left side:

[patent mango]

replace smite with -5% peril node

[thorn pond]

Funny thing is it already does, They have to remain there channeling it

[fiery stratus]

add a timer so if you use smite for longer than 3-5 seconds at a time, you just blow up instantly

regardless of peril

[patent mango]

thats a slowdown

[hearty wolf]

if use play the game in vr, it straight up kills the user

[patent mango]

thats a stun

[patent jacinth]

A quick fix would be exponential peril gain during a channel

Or peril per targets stunned with a curve or something

[patent mango]

give psyker purple peril that takes longer to quell

from oversmiting

[fiery stratus]

make smite do more damage, but make the peril scale with the damage you're doing so it climbs like crazy

[hearty wolf]

peril corruption

[buoyant maple]

That’s just inferno with extra steps

[thorn pond]

Tbh they could make it apply weakspot hits again so at least smite has a mechanical use with the surge blessing.

[fiery stratus]

[nocturne dust]

inb4 Fatshark implements this for BB

[buoyant maple]

That doesn’t work when weapon is off hand

[fiery stratus]

but make it scale with the damage, so if you hit multiple enemies, the damage ticks add a large percentage of peril

[thorn pond]

wdym i'm talking about the 5 weakpot hits that garantee a critical so you can switch to the voidstrike and get a surge

[buoyant maple]

Oh that
Nah, too strong

[fiery stratus]

if smite could hit weakspots thats just gonna lead to even more trash smite psykers who don't know how to use a melee weapon.

[buoyant maple]

Besides smite is random targeting so you still need to gamble quite a while for full weakspot hits

Which encourages people to stay smiting longer

Just not great

[fiery stratus]

Nah they should make smite the new psyker meta so the game is as boring as possible

[nocturne dust]

You guys follow the meta?

[fiery stratus]

Nah i don't use purg

[nocturne dust]

I just play staff

[thorn pond]

Disagree with it being strong, it takes so long to get, its kinda lucky based, you waste peril, you need to switch yo the staff. I have something similar with using crack of bone and true aim.

[patent mango]

the meta is boring sadly

[nocturne dust]

Always have, always will

[fiery stratus]

Purg is just boring in general

[patent mango]

eepy

[nocturne dust]

I like purg 😭

[fiery stratus]

[buoyant maple]

The reality is that when you’re smiting a very large horde it won’t take very long to get given every target can tick for it

Whereas vs smaller groups it’ll take longer to get, when u can just melee and get weakspot hits very fast

I don’t think encouraging holding smite is ever a good idea

[thorn pond]

And makes them have a good reason to switch to the staff and get a critical hit

[fiery stratus]

Smites already strong, doesn't do a lot of damage, but it shuts off the threat entirely pretty much. You can do that for a looong time if you build it right

[buoyant maple]

Smite at best needs a nerf to holding it, and at worse can get the holding function nuked

[nocturne dust]

make smite holding function charge super blast for boss zapping

make it actual smite

https://tenor.com/view/worldbox-smited-lightning-gif-17816464421779196148

[fiery stratus]

Make smite cause 25% peril gain on push

[patent mango]

make charged strike good

[thorn pond]

Smite needs entire build and 3 perks to be usefull, and even them you could attack and kill the enemys instead

[nocturne dust]

Not possible

[patent mango]

noooooooo

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark could never

[thorn pond]

Aside from giving the team a breathing room at the cost of your peril and maybe holding the horde for a revive most of the time its best to just blast away and kill the mobs

[fiery stratus]

Yes thats the right play with smite

Thats not how noobs play though lmao

[buoyant maple]

Why does smite need to be a strong killing tool

[patent jacinth]

This is a bad arguement!!!!! Just because something is semi difficult to build for doesn't mean it should be allowed to obliterate all difficulty

[nocturne dust]

Because balance is stupid

[thorn pond]

It doesn't it needs to have either good sinergy with staff or a insteresting mechanic

[nocturne dust]

Embrace chaos

[thorn pond]

what

[fiery stratus]

they should just rework that slot and put an entirely different blitz in

[hearty wolf]

Smite could be a blitz that you toggle on or off for your offhand.

Every few seconds or amount of peril generated, it gains a level up to three charge levels.

Charge 0 does nothing
Charge 1 basically does nothing
Charge 2 is an intermediate 1.5s cc that would for everything that doesn't have carapace

Charge 3 BIG ZAP

[nocturne dust]

and give EK a blessing to spread more

[stark crown]

I'd prefer it be anything that encourages psyker to actually engage in the fight instead of Press G and Hold M2

[thorn pond]

yee

[stark crown]

Cause my god Smite is so fucking boring

[fiery stratus]

[stark crown]

Me pulling up my bedsheets cause I got matched into a Duo Smyker match

[twilit beacon]

I really wish there was a pyrokinetic blitz for psyker

[patent mango]

let smite charge up targets and you hit them and you do extra damig explosion

[thorn pond]

Or maybe easier to use when surrounded? maybe have a area effect around the player so its usefull for hordes and clutch situations whem ambushed

[patent mango]

molten beam!!

would b cool

[nocturne dust]

dang, you play in bed?

[stark crown]

I'd rather it be something in the sense of Assail or BR where you use it, it gives a chunk of Peril but does something where you can idk fucking play the game instead of locking down the entire match for everyone

[thorn pond]

Smyker i like that one

[twilit beacon]

or like a psyker equivalent to fire grenade, some kind of blitz thats good against carapace and isnt brain burst

[thorn pond]

These fucking smyker are killing the games morale

[patent jacinth]

Smite does not in any way need a buff, it needs a nerf to discourage channeling it for 30 fucking seconds or a total rework so this problem doesn't exist in the first place!!!!!!

[stark crown]

Total Rework

[fiery stratus]

Buff brainburst instead

[patent mango]

did psyker chat wake up angy today

[fiery stratus]

[twilit beacon]

Yeah so far the only time i ever feel the need to use smite are the hordes of dogs, getting a revive or a sudden ambush of ragers, Theres barely ever a reason for me to use it in 90% of encounters

[thorn pond]

I mean some ppl think kinectic flayer is good and go for brainburst because of it so not sure.

[patent mango]

yea smite is both useless and op

[stark crown]

I'd rather it being something like where you shoot it, it can stun enemies like the Shauls do but instead of Holding it the entire time and being useless it literally gives a small window of holding them in place for a second

That or add fucking molten beam for gods sake

[patent mango]

somehow

[patent jacinth]

No somebody said buff smite so we are honorbound to flay them alive

[patent mango]

lmao

[fiery stratus]

brainburst bad, dookie damage, slow to charge, loses charge instantly as soon as you stop. Tons of peril generation. Only good thing is the range

[stark crown]

we do not take kindly to buff smite

[thorn pond]

When they said we they meant themselvs

[patent mango]

brainburst wont even get to do damage

if any teammate has a gun

[fiery stratus]

yep

It should at least charge much faster, and the bar should degrade overtime instead of dropping the entire charge.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[thorn pond]

Brainburst also has the same problem that smite does but is less prevalent Where players decide to use it in melee situations where attacking is just better.

[twilit beacon]

or somehow let you store charges so you can just point and burst in the middle of a fight instead of getting half a charge and then watching the sniper get shot by a teammate

[fiery stratus]

The difference though is if you don't know what you're doing, you'll probably get flattened with bb

[patent mango]

let brainburst spread lmao

[fiery stratus]

2op

[thorn pond]

Its a interesting idea but kinda takes away from its purpose tho.

Its meant to be a good single target dmg blits however its too slow and the dmg doesn't scale well in havoc

[patent mango]

make enemies have 500m away sightlines

finally an use for bb

[summer prairie]

Slighty quicker charge, same charge speed for rmb, better mobility while charging. At least some of those

bb only has 100mb range though

[patent mango]

wait what

its capped? day ruined

[patent jacinth]

The game isn’t balanced for havoc

It’s meant to fuck with the meta

[thorn pond]

The pox gas mission really fuck with the meta

The meta on those is demoting the assignment

since they are really fun to play

[buoyant maple]

I think BB in general can use a damage buff tbh

[thorn pond]

Giving enemies afflicted by brainburst stagger if they survive they fall instead would be interesting.

[patent mango]

strongest modifier vs weakest asking other player to host it

[buoyant maple]

I also think BB’s charge speed is fine

[fiery stratus]

[buoyant maple]

But it should be allowed to cast before being fully charged

[summer prairie]

100m here https://streamable.com/ouqouj

[buoyant maple]

Allow half charge BB

Keep charge rate same

[fiery stratus]

[patent mango]

my poor brai n bur st . . . . . .

[buoyant maple]

Buff BB damage especially vs flak, carapace & unyielding

[patent jacinth]

Yes, but saying stuff doesn’t scale into havoc isn’t a great argument

[thorn pond]

Makes sense i doubt the ogryns have a lot of mass to burst in those brains

[patent jacinth]

All hail the BB double walls blue stim boss machine gun

[fiery stratus]

I'm honestly fine with what it does to ogryns ect, it should be used as a special removal tool. That said it needs some buffs to make it better at that job

[patent mango]

collect my patch notes...

[thorn pond]

So what you saying is

We need to nerf the ogryn class

[fiery stratus]

honestly kinda op, can we make the bullets penetrate the shield now?

[patent mango]

make brainburst blocked by shields

[fiery stratus]

can we make charge stop if you hit ogryns?

[patent mango]

add cleave cap to brainburst

[thorn pond]

If you use bb on a ogryn it changes to smite

[patent mango]

let brainburst do 0 dmg cause all these heretics stupid

[hearty wolf]

You know how all the old school legendaries used to get Draco meteor and it was cool af. Why doesn't Psyker get Void meteor

[summer prairie]

make it start doing damage immediately, full damage at full charge

[patent mango]

make bb a constant cast

[thorn pond]

What if bb did pitiful dmg to the enemies in a cone area in front of the player and you had to hold it to make them paralyzed.

[patent mango]

make bb spawn a 2nd force greatsword

[deft stump]

Brain Burst renamed to Head Pop, Now instantly blows up head of target unless it's a monstrosity.

Upgraded Head pop, now also blows up monstrosity heads.

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/youve-got-this-you-can-gif-25094691

[patent mango]

yea cant it just be instant by this point

[muted grove]

anyone wanna critique my build? esp with blessings, marks, curios etc

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e2c8ce0-ece5-4a9f-a268-eecb6591eb95/bb-purg-wall

[patent mango]

do u really need illisi with inferno

they're both horde clear

[proper osprey]

There’s a lot of wasted points and I’d use knife or dueling sword with purg

No need for illis

[patent mango]

deimos or obscurus also good

[proper osprey]

Demios is alright

[patent mango]

i dont think you need the 5% ranged node

[muted grove]

illsi is mainly for deflector cuz im ass at getting lit up by gunners

[patent mango]

thats more of a meme build thing

[patent mango]

deimos or obscurus then

[proper osprey]

Ngl very time I try to run that I forget i have it

[muted grove]

(i kind of do too and then still die, lol)

[proper osprey]

And i have no idea how your purg should be suppressing them

One moment

[muted grove]

word! i know the deimos is good for single target, why obscurus though?

[patent mango]

obscurus is also good for single target now

u can try it to see if u like it

[muted grove]

agreed, any suggestions on what should replace it?

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5cc452-6030-42a4-afe1-2b54e0c4337c/terrible-pysker-build id do this

If I’m running purg I’m usually taking shrike

[patent mango]

1s

5% movement speed would be funny

but idk how important it is lmao

[proper osprey]

But if you want to run shield you can path to it and grab it

I’d take the dome

[knotty dawn]

@feral verge im the one calling you crazy for that build

[proper osprey]

@muted grove I’d highly recommend knife or dueling sword for there mobility instead of a force sword

[patent mango]

nah fsword is also good

[knotty dawn]

@feral verge thanks you are the goat

[feral verge]

thanks homie

biggest tip is to stack uncanny + executor on your soulblaze

[knotty dawn]

the fact you doubled my damage is nuts but i know psykers are crazy

[muted grove]

this is the first time ive seen knife recomended on psyker, if im mid will it still be useful lol

[feral verge]

as in, set group of enemies (or boss) on fire with purga staff. then fire shriek ult on them (at 85%~ peril) then swap to melee with uncanny strike + executor (like deimos force sword) and poke a few heads with it

that will boost soulblaze damage

[proper osprey]

Yeah using the knifes mobility helps you keep distance for your staff

[feral verge]

and give it rending

[patent mango]

its just for mobility

[knotty dawn]

so you melt everything lol?

[feral verge]

yeah, the damage is busted

i have a vid somewhere that showcases it

[knotty dawn]

rending for armor, fire for unarmored, and just dots?

[muted grove]

so the idea isnt to kill with it, jsut to space and burn them, i kinda like it

is dueling sword the only weapon i nthe game with a movement tech?

[patent mango]

knife movement tech is way stronger

[muted grove]

how do it 😮

[patent mango]

hold m1

[feral verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1333248870880247808/Moments-clip-from-Jan-26-2025.mp4?ex=67aa0085&is=67a8af05&hm=bdd7210155aaa9fa36631fdd5b0eeb29aafc35db806a46a81568b6be146d28d1&

[muted grove]

so same as dueling sword just a heavy instead of a light?

[feral verge]

this clip showcases it

its quick, but look how low the DOT damage is at the beginning

then watch after i stack executor + uncanny strike on the reaper behind me

the DOT then does funny damage to the crusher

bleed DOT has the same interaction

[patent mango]

yea

[deft stump]

I think dueling requires you to slide into an attack?

[muted grove]

correct, wait does the knife not involve a slide?

[deft stump]

Nope.

Just sprint while spamming heavies.

You just go faster.

Shrugs.

[proper osprey]

Sometimes

It’s always good to slide but mostly you can just charge heavies and run

[strong gulch]

You can.

With knife, slide to stay stam positive.

edit: oops wrong person

On psyker in general

but is why you still slide

[upper sun]

yeah sliding reduces stamina usage on most weapons

[proper osprey]

I always run sprint efficiency incase of a clutch scenario

[upper sun]

unless you're an ogryn with random pauses in the animation

its true one minute you're vibing and suddenly PAUSE

[strong gulch]

still slide with knife to stay stam positive

[warped perch]

Chocolate chip cookies would be so much better without the chocolate chips

[proper osprey]

Me when I’m wrong

[warped perch]

I’m not wrong

[proper osprey]

I loooove chocolate

[strong gulch]

It wasn't until the last couple years that I had a chocolate chip cookie that I thoroughly enjoyed.

I'm not a chocolate lover tho and it triggers migraines. So ain't it for me. Someone else can have my chocolate.

[patent mango]

dude ogryn attack to push times r so annoyig

idk what its called

recovery time maybe

[deft stump]

It was more in general on how the extra movespeed tech for knoife works. Sliding will be a net stam thing, but heavy sprint is nyoom.

[strong gulch]

Ye, but still slide.

But SG speed with DD speed on running knife heavy will always be funny.

[marble crater]

Migraines and no chocolate? Damn

[strong gulch]

I had a bright spot in in vision earlier and yesterday had some brain fog, so I think one is on the way. RIP

[deft stump]

But how do you live? When the nice stuff makes things hurt more...

[strong gulch]

This to be honest

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna do aurics with beans and I? https://discord.gg/r7zvsmhE

[nocturne dust]

Find nice stuff that doesn't hurt

There was a period of time after I became lactose intolerant where I desperately wanted milk stuff (before I had good lactose-free alternatives). I used that motivation to look at other foods and found a lot of neat stuff, like uncooked chow mein noodles.

[analog agate]

Kcd2 is fantastic. Just saying

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-dead-chat-plink-plink-dead-chat-dead-chat-cute-cat-gif-11654508771208714785

[wispy bay]

It is already monday morning for most people.

[strong gulch]

It's almost midnight here and ppl are popping of fireworks.

[wispy bay]

Same here minus the firework.

A lot of snow ploughing though.

[strong gulch]

May your roads be safe to travel upon.

[wispy bay]

Thank you, I need that.

[fiery stratus]

That mutant literally did run through the wall, I thought so. @strong gulch

[torn kernel]

bro why are obscurus combos so weird

[cold geode]

they changed them recently, so there is some jank

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/grim-protocols-patch-notes-pt-2/102289

Obscurus Mk II Blaze Force Sword

Added a new Light attack, available only when chaining from and to the Heavy 2 attack, or while in Slide stance
Improved the offensive properties of the Light 2 attack

[jovial juniper]

Green mutant

[fiery stratus]

News to me

I don't run wall or bubble ever

[buoyant maple]

it's actually very simple

H1 + light twice for single target

L1 + (H2 + L0) loop for horde

[torn kernel]

OH

i've been looking at outdated guides then

[weary idol]

the tiniest bullshit kills you as this fuckin' class man

If you can't notice it in this clip the reason I died is because I dodged onto a fucking trashbag sitting in that corner, and I have such far dodge distance that it caused me to get airtime, and then 2 bulwarks hit me at the same time immediately after I landed before I could dodge again :)

I was not blocking because I assumed I would just fuckin' dodge

[torn kernel]

that's a knife problem not a psyker problem

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah! Green mutie things. 😭

[torn kernel]

seriously though knife dodges fuck me up more than they help

[fiery stratus]

Thiccfish needs to do another pass on the maps and make sure people aren't getting stuck on shit. I've had random shit get stuck on my toenail and kill me multiple times lately

[weary idol]

If I was any other class I would have at least not gone down

[compact cargo]

Deserved, using knife instead of taxe

[torn kernel]

wait a fucking second

why did my havoc assignment reset to 16

[strong gulch]

Probably the last one you completed.

[torn kernel]

last one i did was like

3

i've been doing low lvls for weeks

oh ffs was it because i did an auric mael

[strong gulch]

Oh maybe

[torn kernel]

why can't i demote multiple levels at once

i thought the auric mael thing only applied to your havoc level for the first one

[deft stump]

Nope. Auric mael just sets you to 16 whenever.

[prime elk]

that's fucking stupid lol

[deft stump]

At least normal mael doesn't set you to 1, RIGHT?

[torn kernel]

LMAO

tru

[azure parcel]

I saw a skilled Psyker with an FGS today and it was a very effective demo of how insane that weapon is

now I need me one

[prime elk]

it's great yeah

i mean it's the weapon that got psyker playesr to learn how to melee

[azure parcel]

what's the dump stat for a voidblast staff btw?

[wispy seal]

Very new darktide player here with only 3 missions played (sedition) with psyker being all i am interested in. Any tips would be greatly appreciated, and what should I be building for in terms of the most desirable stats/weapon stats?

[prime elk]

build for asasil first until you hit 30

then you can worry about weapon stats

a lot of psyker weapons feel bad until you start getting good rolls at 30

[fiery wigeon]

having any weapons better than barely useable is nearly impossible until 30

[wispy seal]

Yea only just picked up assail and definitely noticed how fun it was low level

[azure parcel]

can confirm, Psyker levelling REALLY sucks without Assail

[azure parcel]

also anyone help me with this please?

[fiery wigeon]

level dueling sword, force sword & greatsword, vraks infantry autogun, and the staffs

[jovial juniper]

1 - don't get hit
2 - if you do get hit, make sure you're at max toughness
3 - keep your toughness up, so quietude then Soulstealer or mettle or both

[jovial juniper]

When in doubt
Warp res

[wispy seal]

I’ve watched a few vids on how I should be using my melee and dodges so luckily have been doing well at not getting hit

so far…

[jovial juniper]

Unless VoidSTRIKE, that one is radius

[azure parcel]

gotcha

[prime elk]

remember to dodge and push

a lot of players intuitively know to dodge

but pushing is also very powerful

blocks and push are also 360 degrees

so you can block and push shit behind you

[eager token]

300+ ranged elites on pox gas + pox bomber 35 havoc

is

haha lol

[fading shoal]

Any specific nodes that benefit the force greatsword on a non-assail weave build? Currently this is my build with inferno staff.

[prime elk]

fgs really likes attack speed

[eager token]

you really want those right side nodes in the middle

before auras

[wispy bay]

You can remove soulstealer. You also have the BB upgrade, which is not needed if you already have EP.

[plucky flax]

Warp resistance

[eager token]

[blissful bluff]

Did they fix psykers skill 10% rending above 75 peril yet?

[torn kernel]

soon ™️

[fading shoal]

Something like this?
https://i.imgur.com/CGyRx1H.png

[torn kernel]

now that's a true combo

[torn kernel]

you could probably drop the smite upgrades

heavy attack one especially, it's uh
much worse than it seems on paper

[fading shoal]

Souldrinker any good?
https://i.imgur.com/mmXyCJJ.png

[torn kernel]

if you're running inferno staff i guess, otherwise it's pretty inconsistent

[fading shoal]

Alrighty

thx

[eager token]

souldrinker is ok but not necessary

doign soulblaze with fgs takes a lot of talent points

[torn kernel]

tru

tbh it might be better to either make a full melee sg/dd build, or run your usual build with fgs as a backup weapon

damn thing still shreds even without talent investment

[eager token]

scriers fgs assail prescience crit build is too good

scriers + dd proc is zoom hours also v fun

gotta go fast

[torn kernel]

Warp Speed my beloved

[quartz barn]

Main reason i swapped off of fgs with purg is because i pref movement over the big dmg vs crushers, which purg doesnt do well

[wispy bay]

This is one of the build I use for melee psyker with staff.

[quartz barn]

Cdr aura on scrier?

[torn kernel]

Hadron keeps fucking me over with WR rolls

no Mettle

[wispy bay]

2 spare points you can do whatever, either Gaze upgrade, keystone or quell.

[quartz barn]

Why not go crit aura

Scriers doesnt really need cdr

[wispy bay]

Mettle is optional, too.

[plucky flax]

Nah

[wispy bay]

Yes, I meant to go crit aura.

Crack of bone is also a good alternative for the spare point. It does fun stuff vs the horde.

[fading shoal]

My attempt at force greatsword with soulblaze.

[eager token]

drop wildfire fir combustion if you have to pick

no OWTW

[quartz barn]

Id change kd for warp rider

Unless its havoc you really dont need kd, and even then fgs gets 5 stam by default so youll prob dont need it anyway

[fading shoal]

What is OWTW again?

ah, one with the warp

[wind spruce]

You've skipped one of the best talents in the game. Psykinetics aura.

You should literally always take it unless you can't because you're running assail

Bonkers this wasn't the first criticism tbh

Drop essence harvest. It's garbage.

You should also have perilous combustion.

[fading shoal]

Alright, I dropped essence harvest for psykinetic's aura

If my memory serves right, your own character is always in a coherency with or without a teammate?

So if I kill an elite or specialist and my teammates are far away from me, then psykinetic's aura would still trigger?

[wispy bay]

It is within your personal coherency. Your aura will always give you the benefit.

[torn kernel]

yea but only for yourself

[cosmic sigil]

it's awesome and you should try it

[cosmic sigil]

thank you for your post on reddit, also, vindication:

[cosmic sigil]

scryer dd on a taxe is like having a 20s fotf tbh

[torn kernel]

mein gott that's a lot of PAs

wait a sec

are the ogryns gone

BRUTE CONSCRIPTS IS OVER

[cosmic sigil]

yes

[torn kernel]

i can live in peace now

[cosmic sigil]

it was temporary

i liked it tbh

i hope the next modifier is not gas related

[cosmic sigil]

Yes, bm is garbage, taxe is a joke, yada yada

i think PC is kinda helping too

[autumn smelt]

dude it sucks so bad and needs buffs

[lone wing]

can do the same thing on console

[cosmic sigil]

that's maybe just the edge that you need too hit the bp faster too

[cosmic sigil]

[autumn smelt]

in this case its pulling most of the weight by the end, but in a realistic scenario, it drops their health enough to hit breakpoints easier

[lone wing]

[cosmic sigil]

ok, i know you're using HT... but maybe slaughtering spree could work

never tried it on psyker

[autumn smelt]

headtaker is what allows it to reach those one shot breakpoints on the first hit

slaughtering spree requires multiple on the same target to build it up, resetting when you swap

[cosmic sigil]

hu

[autumn smelt]

a realistic amount of ragers (6) with no chaff to facilitate BM cleave

[cosmic sigil]

that's relentless

[autumn smelt]

i just realized yeah

[autumn lark]

GIVE US BURNING PYRES

I WANT TO SEE THE TORRENT ON FIRE

[cosmic sigil]

we need a fire map

and a jungle one

[autumn lark]

Also introduce burning pyres into refinery delta and silo clusters cause those maps fucking suck dick ass

[cosmic sigil]

like, ffs hydroponics farms

[autumn lark]

Fire map is smelter🤫

[cosmic sigil]

so, slaughtering spree + bm could work methinks

[cosmic sigil]

yeah true, but not enough the floor is lava

[marble crater]

Pox gas modifier is the floor is lava, kinda

[cosmic sigil]

imagine if you could open some gates and drown the horde in lava

[cosmic sigil]

kinda, and the ceiling is fart

[autumn smelt]

25% power, multiplicative with all the +damage bonuses at work in the tree tho, is kinda huge and is probably hitting some breakpoints youd miss out on otherwise

[cosmic sigil]

i know i know,

aon + ht works on zealot, so it should work on psyker too

[autumn lark]

God cole i have a stupid idea

Burning pyre enemies with toughness break fire

[cosmic sigil]

i wish the enemies had some healers/buffer type