#psyker-class

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prime elk
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Investing in brain burst staregryn

rigid sky
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give me a sec

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Disclaimer, only tested up through auric maelstrom

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but it's probably my best performing psyker build

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I love brain rupture for the power fantasy of it so I like to emphasise it lol

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it's the best build to play with enhanced psionics rupture imo

broken thorn
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I can help, send me a DM

deft stump
upper galleon
bronze mantle
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Are there any plans or stated intentions by fatshark to fix the dress part of the psyker outfit currently in the shop?

buoyant maple
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If not, u can make a bug report in FS forums urself

fiery stratus
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Force firearms when

indigo plank
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Force spear when

fiery stratus
indigo plank
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Force…halberd? Plankton_yes.ogg

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WAIT THIS IS PSYKER CHAT

indigo plank
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I forgot how into it he was and I’m not trying to cause a second quarantine lockdown

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Godspeed, pilgrim

fiery stratus
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Just do force billhook and reuse the animations for time

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Let the hook pull specials heads off or something

upper galleon
upper galleon
broken carbon
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@feral carbon

buoyant maple
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(ranged backstab AKA "flanking" is 180 degrees behind)

feral carbon
buoyant maple
broken carbon
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ascension riser is ur best bet

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or mostly ranged maelstroms

buoyant maple
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easiest is probably ranged-only maelstrom

feral carbon
# broken carbon yah it takes a while

well, im working on martydom rn, and just ran out of diamantine upgrading a knife and that axe you mentioned, so ill keep shroudfield and loner on for some passive progress while getting martydom and the corruption one done

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this is 3 malice matches worth of progress after just starting it and not really paying much attention to anything but the shroudfield one, so progress is progress ig

patent jacinth
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Nasty ass fucking build

patent jacinth
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Loner shroud martyr is something that should stay as a penance and malice main build

feral carbon
fiery wigeon
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some of these penances are so disconnected from actual gameplay

feral carbon
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just getting penance done atm

upper galleon
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Should use IJ for the movement speed and cdr imo

weary idol
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though tbh the lore for force weapons is they can be basically fuckin' anything so

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and art for the TTRPGs has a ton of variety for them

nocturne dust
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Steal the ogryn's power

bronze storm
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I will forever love the concept of pysker hot potato

verbal thistle
pine ore
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Vraks (ex columnus) or recon lasgun for gun psyker? What's better nowadays?

torn kernel
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i use vraks to delete bosses

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recon's a little more forgiving for general purpose

vagrant onyx
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Recon gets decent boss dps with dumdum and handles gunners with short ammo efficient bursts

wind spruce
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Vraks for mag dumping bosses quickly. Recon for everything else inc. ammo conservation

vagrant onyx
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Vraks is like taking a chainsaw to their hp bar

nocturne dust
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Recon is easier to use

nocturne dust
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But Vraks has higher damage output, and you can learn your way around the recoil

torn kernel
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12 doesn't do much after max burn stacks

wind spruce
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Burn is what you're after though

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Quick spray to 12 stacks and move on

nocturne dust
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and personally imo, everything Recon can do, Assail also does excluding bosses, but Vraks does bosses faster

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and assail is the typical gunker pairing sooooo

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🤷‍♂️

dull scroll
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I'm converted back to recon again

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the recoil

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it's too scarring

nocturne dust
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You don't need to mind the recoil with assail chadgryn

wind spruce
dull scroll
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I can't scribble lines with vraks at long range 😔

nocturne dust
plucky flax
torn kernel
pine ore
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And what you guys prefer as melee option for gunpsyker?

plucky flax
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Okay that sucks

nocturne dust
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FGS

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Anyone who says anything else is a filthy blunt

dull scroll
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assail is actually bad at taking out specials, single target dmg way too long, you need guns to burst them down to be safe

dull scroll
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it's very good vs ragers and shotgun groups

torn kernel
pine ore
dull scroll
nocturne dust
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Assail is not bad at specials in the slightest

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wtf

plucky flax
nocturne dust
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Are you like

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comparing it to revolver?

plucky flax
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Oops wrong reply to

dull scroll
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comparing it to recon and vraks

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the difference is way too great

nocturne dust
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Heck no, assail is perfectly fine at hunting specials compared to recon and vraks

pine ore
torn kernel
dull scroll
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if there is a group of elites and what not, then assail is king

pine ore
nocturne dust
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Plus, assail will stagger the special so even if it doesn't kill, you can just throw it again

dull scroll
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single tanky special like flamer or bomber the gun is just too much faster

nocturne dust
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no?

dull scroll
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absolutey

nocturne dust
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Just throw a couple shards and go back to meleeing the horde or something

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The shards will do the rest

dull scroll
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takes 3+ shards, at least

nocturne dust
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Time spent on the special is just as short as pulling out a gun and aiming it

plucky flax
nocturne dust
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which

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I bet you are

elder glade
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Las pistol, my beloved

nocturne dust
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If you're running a gun

dull scroll
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I'm literally saying this from late experience

nocturne dust
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Your experience, quite frankly, is trash

dull scroll
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I do aim pretty fast, so if ppl aim slow then that's that

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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lol okay

nocturne dust
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Considering assail bad at hunting specials is like considering Rashad bad at clearing horde

dull scroll
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"bad" is a relative term

torn kernel
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laspistol deals damage to my fingers wail

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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if your other options are that much better, then yes, it is "bad"

nocturne dust
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If you just throw in 'this is bad at X' with no context, it's going to be against the general options for said X

nocturne dust
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and most ranged weapons are a whole lot worse at hunting specials than assail

dull scroll
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literal said I'm comparing it to using the guns

nocturne dust
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Yes

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Idk how you consider Recon or Vraks better

dull scroll
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not talking about "most" ranged weapon

nocturne dust
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Vraks has the damage but good luck sniping special heads with the recoil

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Recon has the range, but isn't that quick. Assail may take longer, but you spend less time using assail because it will do its thing without you.

weary idol
pine ore
weary idol
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vraks maniac damage is stupid high

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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just tried again on holodec, it's the guns, downside obviously been ammo consumption

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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if you are seasoned fps player the guns wins out by a clear margine

torn kernel
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assail allows you to turn your brain off while you look away and mulch the horde though

dull scroll
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the exception again is if there is a group

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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assassil dps scales with crowd

wind spruce
nocturne dust
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I don't care how seasoned of an FPS player you are, assail is not in any way bad at specials

wind spruce
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The strength in assails special management is not its TTK

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You should be able to work out the rest yourself

plucky flax
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Use assails against mutie.

nocturne dust
wind spruce
nocturne dust
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Muties are elites disguised as specials

plucky flax
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Stagger mutie + dps it.

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It's op.

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Assails goated.

torn kernel
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assail staggers fuckin everything though

verbal thistle
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even crushers

plucky flax
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My assails stagger mutie and 2 hits them.

wind spruce
plucky flax
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My assails > your assails.

nocturne dust
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My assail staggers bosses

torn kernel
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it even staggers bulwarks through shield

pine ore
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That's a lot of Yondu wannabes here

upbeat kestrel
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Assail measuring contest

nocturne dust
dull scroll
nocturne dust
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no it is the subject of the debate

wind spruce
# pine ore That's a lot of Yondu wannabes here

Is it because assail is an insanely strong, borderline game breaking ability that is only counterbalanced by the equally strong, borderline game breaking talent that is psykinetics aura?

nocturne dust
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wtf

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I'm not talking about assail's raw damage output

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The debate is 'is assail good at handling specials compared to vraks/recon'

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and the answer

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is yes

dull scroll
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assail have no chance at TTK vs recon at range against elites

wind spruce
nocturne dust
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but the conversation changed

wind spruce
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This isn't cod

pine ore
wind spruce
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TTK isn't that important

wind spruce
dull scroll
wind spruce
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People will yap on about health and mass boosts but it's just PA that's bringing assail down

nocturne dust
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assail you can just lob shards

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recon won't beat assail without weakspot, and weakspot is a lot harder to hit at range

pine ore
dull scroll
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anything assail doesn't one shot recon beats it

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it's simple dps diff

nocturne dust
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You want me to time it?

dull scroll
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go for it

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but don't like oh if I have my assasil on max scarier stacks..etc.

wind spruce
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Dude the 2nd assail is fired like 0.1s after the first one

young falcon
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Are assail modifiers worth grabbing? I can't find any room for'em on my gunker

prime elk
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don't really need em

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just get warp splitting and you're good

wind spruce
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What sirosky said

young falcon
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I do have that. Neat

wind spruce
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I do like to pick up the recharge speed if I can

plucky flax
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I guess you take quite a lot of gazer subnodes?

young falcon
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It's the generic gunker build that got linked here once. One sec

wind spruce
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Crack of bone, perilous combustion and the last DD talent are all optional

plucky flax
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You can take out 1 toughness regen node for assails recharge.

wind spruce
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And soulstealer, yeah

plucky flax
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I'd keep soulstealer and remove quietude.

wind spruce
plucky flax
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Assails recharge toughness via soulstealer. pepesurrender

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That node next to kinetic deflection what is that? Do you need it?

wind spruce
young falcon
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I think that's tranquility

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Yeah, running vraks

plucky flax
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I don't use it. think

wind spruce
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It's insane with recon

young falcon
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Vraks and knife. But gonna try the great sword, once I roll a good one.

plucky flax
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My recon las big sword gazer build whatthefuck_heresy

wind spruce
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Still true

plucky flax
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I'm pro like that.

young falcon
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No crack of bone? Doesn't it help with gaze upkeep?

torn kernel
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no TTS sussy

plucky flax
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It does sure but things are already dead.

torn kernel
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fair lol

plucky flax
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Also I want to actually use warp unbound.

torn kernel
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only thing i dislike about this is no warp speed

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but if you're unboundmaxxing ig there's no use

plucky flax
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With crack of bone warp unbound is hard to get when peril won't reach 100%.

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It's my playstyle tho I'm built different. geltmoai

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Run stuff you like of course.

torn kernel
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lmao yea

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i can't live without warp speed

plucky flax
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Myself I find the boost from mettle is enough to get by.

torn kernel
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i run both psyker_chaos

plucky flax
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Unnerf mettle. SadgeCry

nocturne dust
young falcon
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Precog though. Get them gaze stacks faster

torn kernel
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i love running up to hordes and mogging the zealot behind me

plucky flax
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RIP mettle + trauma meme.

fathom adder
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You can't kill the mettle
Mettle will live on

nocturne dust
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The difference is .17 seconds to kill on a flamer, provided the Recon hits no weakspots and you are using scrier's (and only scrier's), and also I tested in the same scrier's, with Recon second, which gave it an advantage

torn kernel
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also total anecdote but i've been fucked by unbound's jank way too many times

nocturne dust
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so, takeaway is

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assail good at specials

torn kernel
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i swear to fuck i blew up doing a PA once

plucky flax
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Huh no weakspot?

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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That's unrealistic even in live game.

young falcon
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Crystals are pretty rocks and since ogryn rock is good, that means assail good too.

nocturne dust
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Although I did do some testing with weakspots

nocturne dust
young falcon
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Maff cheks out sah

dull scroll
nocturne dust
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The range I used was 18 meters

plucky flax
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What range? Recon is still super easy to aim.

nocturne dust
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It literally doesn't

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I literally just frame-by-framed and timed it

torn kernel
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assail builds peril, guns don't
assail lets me edge harder
bish bash bosh assail better

dull scroll
nocturne dust
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Flamer, 18 meters

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The fire flamer

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the non-tox one

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Not that it matters much

torn kernel
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true lmao

dull scroll
nocturne dust
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Tag the enemy

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it says the distance

dull scroll
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nice

nocturne dust
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Also, note, I said this was with scrier's

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but literally immediate use -> using assail/recon

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so no stacking shenanigans or anything

fathom adder
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Assail builds Peril and ventilates heretics, Recon takes that Peril and transfers it directly to the forehead of heretics, it's the perfect system

wind spruce
nocturne dust
plucky flax
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The forbidden bistol creeping flames build is best gun build

young falcon
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Why no peril button. New node, Gimme Da Peril

nocturne dust
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This is without scrier's, and assail is notably worse (cuz its breakpoints fall off without any buffs) but it is trivial to have DD or Scrier's so I thought it was an unfair comparison.

torn kernel
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i need to try DB SG sometime

nocturne dust
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and also I messed up and hit some weakspots on the recon test with no scrier's KEKW_ogryn

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also, note, that's kill time for assail

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if we look at throw time

pine ore
nocturne dust
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whole second faster

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at 18 meters

pine ore
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Oh you guys still on that assail thing

plucky flax
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It's just 2 guys being weird you can ignore them

torn kernel
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just your regular daily psyker chat number crunching

nocturne dust
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THE NUMBERS

wind spruce
pine ore
dull scroll
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18 is close range, vraks can easily manage recoil, actual ranged is when, like you said, you have to LOB the shards

torn kernel
nocturne dust
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no, the lob is actually not for range

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like, if nothing is in the way

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you can free fire assail

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and it will go farther than lobs

pine ore
wind spruce
nocturne dust
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It's kinda hit or miss at that range tho

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~40 meters or so

torn kernel
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yeah lol it's like the same bonus at around 10% iirc

pine ore
nocturne dust
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even staves

pine ore
wind spruce
nocturne dust
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even infinite cleave pogryn (technically)

wind spruce
pine ore
wind spruce
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I'm suggesting having unyielding on both weapons

torn kernel
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you do not need both with sg

pine ore
young falcon
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Doesn't the guide says that RMB assail goes further than LMB? Like RMB can reach up to 60m or some crazy range

wind spruce
wispy bay
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Bosses are unyielding, but they have passive damage reduction.

wind spruce
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There's nothing wrong with more crit

torn kernel
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well yea but like

nocturne dust
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I mean, RMB's targeting

torn kernel
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drop one of em and get precog for chunky crit damage or something

pine ore
# torn kernel you do *not* need both with sg

I just thought since i already have warp splitting and i really love saying: FUCK YOU to those little pesky gunners with emphatic evasion i would really like that 80 prcnt xrit chance on melee swings

wind spruce
wind spruce
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I'm confused haha

nocturne dust
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RMB goes about as far as LMB if you're ignoring targetting

pine ore
dull scroll
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all I'm getting from my side is that at 18 vraks destroys both, recon and assail comparable

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the longer you go the more recon wins out vs both

nocturne dust
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and both go to like... 70 meters? Don't quote me on that

wind spruce
torn kernel
wind spruce
nocturne dust
dull scroll
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not even talking about weakspot

pine ore
hollow current
dull scroll
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assail travel time among other things just kills it's dps at long range

wind spruce
nocturne dust
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don't wait for the kill

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You only care about throw time

nocturne dust
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You can do other things while assail is flying

young falcon
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@nocturne dust "LMB becomes unreliable after 40m due to the hip fire spread. RMB can hit targets at least 63m away, possibly more." Under class mechanics for Assail. Unless that's weird old shit.

wind spruce
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This is what CoD does to the brain, siblings

summer prairie
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lmb has 2.5s flight time, rmb 3s so it has longer "range"

hollow current
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60m is definitely around the RMB limit from my experience/testing.

pine ore
# torn kernel fair fair

Nothing like standing in front of 30 gunners and saying: gunners? What gunners while your fellow zealot performs some apex level shit to dodge all thise bullets :>

wind spruce
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Dee pee ess 🤡

dull scroll
nocturne dust
wind spruce
torn kernel
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stam regen is uh
A Choice
i'd probably drop ability regen for something else though, it really doesn't do much for sg

nocturne dust
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LMB is pretty reliable at RMB targetting ranges

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Even 60 meters

hollow current
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Why can't I have both DD and EP wtfgryn

dull scroll
young falcon
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🤷‍♂️ I'm just reading what pygex wrote

wind spruce
nocturne dust
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Well, Pygex gets info wrong so 🤷‍♂️

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I had to correct him about PotS

torn kernel
wind spruce
nocturne dust
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(and this isn't anything against him, we all get stuff wrong)

torn kernel
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which is negligible but that depends on playstyle i suppose

wind spruce
pine ore
wind spruce
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Which is a lot

summer prairie
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lmb is definitely not reliable at >40m

torn kernel
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eh fair enough

summer prairie
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or >45m at least

nocturne dust
summer prairie
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me too

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rmb hits every time, lmb fizzles out

nocturne dust
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I can pretty reliably target the elites on the other side and have assail go right by the mauler

hollow current
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Honestly anything threatening past 20m gets a RMB+Dodge shard thrown at it.

nocturne dust
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with lmb

hollow current
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LMB is for spamming into flak elites or trash shooters.

wind spruce
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I hardly ever rmb

nocturne dust
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Same

wind spruce
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Snipers predominantly

nocturne dust
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RMB is for the dirty sniper hiding behind 15 layers of cover

pine ore
summer prairie
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there's a lot of variablity, if the assail decides to not fly straight, it's not going to hit with lmb

plucky flax
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Hello syllogism. peepoWave

nocturne dust
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That's fair, I don't really have strong feelings about Assail range KEKW_ogryn

summer prairie
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hi

hollow current
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I've had some LMB assails do trick shots though. KEKW_ogryn

wind spruce
wind spruce
young falcon
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Too bad there isn't like a shotgun mode. Blow through like 4 shards to punch holes in someone

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At close range

upbeat kestrel
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Wpuld be nice

plucky flax
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There's machine gun mode (quell cancel)

pine ore
young falcon
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That instant toughness loss had me clenching

nocturne dust
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Also, just an aside for anyone that cares, throw time was calculated from first frame where input was detected to the first frame where I could see the final assail projectile

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I don't remember if you can cancel assail earlier and still have the projectile come out, and I'm too tired anyway

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Also the testing had no cancelling

plucky flax
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Still using ds4 in 2025? WeirdChamp

young falcon
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Pokey sword gonna poke till tub tuna does anything bout it

hollow current
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That was actually from a year ago to the day.

torn kernel
hollow current
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I've been using the FGS since it came out but that clip reminds me of the zoom and makes me want to go back.

plucky flax
hollow current
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@plucky flax whoops wrong one at first ping.

plucky flax
fallow stream
brazen rampart
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If youre doing this for h40 I would drop warp speed for owtw.

fallow stream
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@autumn smelt

brazen rampart
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Also rending shockwave is useless to you if you are using soulblaze.

fallow stream
brazen rampart
pine ore
fallow stream
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furry spotted...

brazen rampart
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Owtw is the tdr node based on peril next to ee.

fallow stream
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oh i gotcha yeah

torn kernel
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i love warp speed

hollow current
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Why do a lot of my fellow gazers forsake quietude. it's so good.

nocturne dust
torn kernel
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prolly drop endurance for owtw

fallow stream
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no i like moving fast :)

pine ore
nocturne dust
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You have EP VB?

dull scroll
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dropping speed is troll on FGS, your slow ass gonna get caught by blobs 😒

torn kernel
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it's 10% at least even at no peril iirc

brazen rampart
hollow current
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yeah warp speed is cracked, I'd drop endurance first but if this is for havoc then idk lol.

fallow stream
brazen rampart
pine ore
torn kernel
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oh fair nuff

fallow stream
nocturne dust
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Dropping speed is meta

dull scroll
brazen rampart
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But yeah, change warp speed to owtw and change rending shockwave to warp nexus, unless you're going to only use trauma with true aim.

upbeat kestrel
nocturne dust
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Pubbers suck so they can't outrun me KEKW_ogryn

upbeat kestrel
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That your place

brazen rampart
pine ore
brazen rampart
fallow stream
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remember i exclusively use it for bulwarks/crushers

fallow stream
brazen rampart
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Oh right you were clarifying why you're using rending.

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Oops.

fallow stream
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i just knock them over with 1 attack

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then smack with sword

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im gonna pub with the build

upbeat kestrel
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Youre a furry. imposible ypu dont play zealot

fallow stream
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practice

nocturne dust
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then why blazing spirit

fallow stream
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i'm aa zealot main.

nocturne dust
fallow stream
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lol

nocturne dust
fallow stream
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what's that do

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im in a game

dull scroll
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I tried to run FGS builds in havoc once, but without bubble pub team just dies, felt really bad demoting this guy's 20s lobby and reverted back to meta builds

brazen rampart
nocturne dust
brazen rampart
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Warp flurry has no value to him.

fallow stream
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truu

nocturne dust
hollow current
nocturne dust
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They said they were using it for ogryns

fallow stream
brazen rampart
hollow current
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again why did they rename the trauma staff to voidbrapp angymorrow

fallow stream
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i queued into a sniper purge in ur honor froge

nocturne dust
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are you using trauma only for the stagger? whatthefuck_heresy

nocturne dust
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And by only, I mean literally only stagger

dull scroll
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that truma pairing with FGS is 5head, even if you get caught by mauler/crusher blobs you can truma them down instead of getting flattened outright

brazen rampart
nocturne dust
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ew

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I hate it

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It makes sense

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but I hate it

brazen rampart
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He knocks over bulwarks because they are assholes and don't like to get their shields popped.

nocturne dust
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Do you get flattened by armor blobs with FGS?

brazen rampart
nocturne dust
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Yeah, lol

brazen rampart
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Because fgs has insane damage.

nocturne dust
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Just stab them

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The true 5head strategy

brazen rampart
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Mfw mauler 2shot even on havoc after 5s in scriers and no dd stacks:

pine ore
dull scroll
brazen rampart
hollow current
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You got da pokes, you got the moonlight slash to stagger and soften them up if it's charged. you got da force push that opens bulwarks and throws back carapace

brazen rampart
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The base damage on it is better, ds4 just has armor pen.

nocturne dust
brazen rampart
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A few seconds into scriers and you can brute force your damage to be beyond ds4.

dull scroll
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you literally have to bang on crusher head like 4 times with FGS, ds4 two stabs them

nocturne dust
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imagine if fgs had uncanny

brazen rampart
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Mk8 PA stab will 1tap a crusher with scriers and dd.

nocturne dust
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I can oneshot crushers with both weapons, lol

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mk6 fgs, mk8 fgs

dull scroll
brazen rampart
#

This sounds to me like you don't know how to melee correctly and thus keep getting skill issued when using fgs.

nocturne dust
#

Yeah

dull scroll
#

maybe, please enlighten me how you can normally one shot crushers

nocturne dust
#

Psyker is all about buffs

nocturne dust
#

Being buffed is normal for psyker

velvet crescent
#

8 levels to go, is bb really a good pairing with bubble or dont bother?

nocturne dust
#

If you can't maintain your buffs, you are a bad psyker

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Ergo, you can oneshot crushers with Psyker normally using ds4/fgs, because you will have buffs normally

brazen rampart
wind spruce
#

FGS oneshotting crushers is exceedingly rare

brazen rampart
#

It's not lmao.

nocturne dust
#

No?

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Mk8 does it easier

wind spruce
#

Oh mk8

wind spruce
#

Nvm

nocturne dust
#

But even mk6 can do it pretty easily

hollow current
brazen rampart
#

Mk8 has a higher damage profile on its poke than mk6.

#

It can and will oneshot crushers without a crit.

wind spruce
nocturne dust
wind spruce
#

I feel like I never one shot them

brazen rampart
#

And even then, scriers gives you like 37% crit chance or something if you take prescience. (like you should)

hollow current
nocturne dust
brazen rampart
#

Also you can throw malefic into the mix for 20% more damage.

velvet crescent
brazen rampart
#

Like if you don't know how to hit crusher 1tap breakpoints then that's a skill issue on your part.

velvet crescent
#

actually im curious, does the left side of shield see use or do people not bother

dull scroll
nocturne dust
#

I don't know how, I just do chadgryn

brazen rampart
brazen rampart
#

Waves of mutants is funny when they all bang into your shield and stop.

nocturne dust
#

Wall is bad, and really the only use is BB stacking

brazen rampart
#

Nah it straight up shuts off specialists.

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It's super good.

nocturne dust
#

Sure

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in a hallway

brazen rampart
#

People are just bad at using it.

hollow current
dull scroll
nocturne dust
#

where they are shut off anyway

hollow current
#

But yeah it's an interesting build considering it can get juiced with scriers and DD stacks.

brazen rampart
#

I dont even run precog on my fgs and I still comfortably hit crusher 1taps.

wind spruce
#

It doesn't count if you have precog up

nocturne dust
#

I don't run precog either on my mk6

velvet crescent
#

i can absolutely make do without lucky proc though

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i have uncanny strike for a reason

#

but yeah bubble is really growing on me

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very handy to break out when there's an assload of shooters

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that isn't to say i don't like venting shriek!

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i just find bubble super handy

wind spruce
#

FROM LIFE

nocturne dust
#

Bubble has always been my favorite, just be careful you don't overrely on it

dull scroll
hollow current
brazen rampart
#

Yeah, you can put burgle in gay baby jail and he can't do anything.

#

The only thing he can do is melee attacks to harm you.

dull scroll
#

he'll still eat you and run away, so don't get too close 😒

velvet crescent
brazen rampart
#

That being said if he had previously puked on you, you aren't safe.

wind spruce
velvet crescent
#

i acknowledge ds is meta, but i prefer deimos solely because i know force swords more

brazen rampart
nocturne dust
#

No vomit, no problems chadgryn

dull scroll
#

what you saying, you don't get vomit on you he won't eat you?

nocturne dust
#

Bonbon only eats you if you have the vomit debuff, yes

brazen rampart
dull scroll
#

no, I never tried to find out, but I'll take you guys word for it

wind spruce
#

Too busy focusing on dps

brazen rampart
#

Gay baby jail = no vomit, no vomit = no vore alarm.

wind spruce
dull scroll
#

but if I get nom'd I'm recording names

hollow current
#

best thing about gay baby jail is that it eats nets and flamer flames too.

velvet crescent
brazen rampart
nocturne dust
#

Like silent bursters

velvet crescent
wind spruce
#

But that probably gets boring

velvet crescent
velvet crescent
nocturne dust
wind spruce
#

To a slightly lesser extent

velvet crescent
wind spruce
#

BB was a big crutch vs hounds when I was a noob

dull scroll
#

assail is very good for leveling, because you aren't restrained by weapon upgrade/masteries

brazen rampart
wind spruce
velvet crescent
velvet crescent
wind spruce
fallow stream
brazen rampart
fallow stream
#

that's called using the node wrong :)

dull scroll
#

elite EP is superior to all modes below havoc

fallow stream
#

i just killed 30 ragers in like two seconds

dull scroll
#

high havoc though the 12.5% one is better

fallow stream
#

ep has REALLY annoying ui bugs though
it usually wont display how many charges i have

brazen rampart
hollow current
#

I think there's a mod that fixes that so you can have 50 buffs up at the same time and see them all.

brazen rampart
fallow stream
#

i had like 2 buffs up and ep still wasn't showing

velvet crescent
#

yeah, i see it

hollow current
#

I haven't used the mod for it but I think that might be it.

brazen rampart
#

Lumii doesn't have a buff bar mod...

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What a noob...

pine ore
#

I have a question. What's the most OP class in the game?

velvet crescent
dull scroll
brazen rampart
#

Hes mad that psyker is the most op class.

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Angry that bc zealout has until death, they're somehow the most broken class in the game.

velvet crescent
#

@brazen rampart any ideas what i could grab with my next 8 skill points?

brazen rampart
#

Uh...

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Post your tree again.

dull scroll
#

how is zealot even comparable, vet is the only competition

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zealot is a boss dps support class at higher diff

brazen rampart
velvet crescent
#

my build is like

fire staff
deimos force sword
bb
aura for cd reduction
bubble
empowered psi

bb for distant shooters/ elites
fire staff for hordes
bubble for, well, bubble, it comes in handy when gunners come knocking
empowered psi for speedy brain aneurysm

brazen rampart
#

Idk he's just coping.

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Psyk aura, mettle and perfect timing bc crit purg staff, could take quietude and empyric resolve.

hollow current
brazen rampart
#

That's 7 points.

#

Maybe take the toughness node under perfect timing too?

velvet crescent
#

Not a bad idea aye

brazen rampart
#

Scuse me I didn't mean quietude.

#

I meant the quell speed one pathing towards warp charges.

#

I dont remember the name of that talent.

brazen rampart
dull scroll
#

its only benefit is giving you at a second chance at TS

#

also if you get crusher overheaded you come out with corruption all the way to 1 hp

brazen rampart
#

I noted that.

#

It means absolutely nothing in h40 if you eat an overhead bc your entire hp bar gets corrupted.

velvet crescent
#

This build's using deimos and infernus staff

brazen rampart
#

Do not dump quell speed on EK.

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Dump warp res.

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Actually that goes for all staves.

#

Except voidstrike.

#

That dumps blast radius.

velvet crescent
#

Aw rip is the steam guide outdated

dull scroll
#

people literally pay million of orens to roll single digit warp res on things like purge, that stat is cursed 😂

velvet crescent
#

Also of note

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Deflector... might dump

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Uncanny+Slaughterer

brazen rampart
#

You have deflector on your sword?

velvet crescent
#

I just slide when being shot at

brazen rampart
#

That's funny.

velvet crescent
velvet crescent
#

I just slide if being shot at

brazen rampart
#

I run uncanny riposte on deimos but slaughterer is always a good option on force swords.

brazen rampart
velvet crescent
#

Imma be 100 with you chief I just picked deflector because I saw I could go jedi on people and was like hell yeah

dull scroll
#

deflector doesn't deflect sniper btw, it's pretty good in clutch situations coupled with KD

#

but there are better options

hollow current
#

Deflector should deflect sniper but automatically put you to 100% peril and make you explode. KEKW_ogryn

#

Or down a teammate within 10 meters.

dull scroll
#

I tried deflector on FGS past few games, finding that little info out the hard way was the deal breaker for me

hollow current
#

Deflector isn't really that good anyways once you know the maps and how to avoid getting shot for the most part.

velvet crescent
#

I slide if being shot at

#

Handy for dodging bursts

#

Does ep stack with faster brain burst?

dull scroll
#

it does

hollow current
#

You make very sus gestures along with lots of squishy sounds when you have a bunch of elites in your sights.

dull scroll
#

but you also make the peril reduction redundant

velvet crescent
#

Rog

velvet crescent
#

what would you guys grab with the next 8 points?

hollow current
#

One with the warp is an awesome node.

dull scroll
#

that talent beside the warp fire spread is a top priority

#

the one that gives whole team cd on elite kill

hollow current
#

Psykinetic Aura.

dull scroll
#

but honestly I don't even know how many elites are there in heresy or whatever ppl play nowadays to level 😅

velvet crescent
#

i just did a heresy hi intensity

#

a pickaxe oggy and a zealot carried

#

i wasnt useless tho, shield kept me relevant-ish against guns

dull scroll
#

just do EP assail if you want to be OP during lvl'ing

velvet crescent
#

aight

brazen rampart
#

The crit ep dart on its way to solo the whole lobby:

dull scroll
#

that shit is absolutely busted

#

it's the same assail that can clear aurics

#

but now used in heresy for leveling 😅

fallow stream
#

@autumn smelt gimme a map ranking on enemy density

fallow stream
#

ep is fun as fuck

#

holy fuck warp unbound sucks

wind spruce
#

That's impressively low

fallow stream
#

lol

dull scroll
#

carried there, but what build and what diff

fallow stream
#

hi shock gloriana

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i'm using an empowered psionics build with assail

#

fgs

wind spruce
fallow stream
#

i have trauma staff just to knock over bulwark and rager packs if i need to

#

never use it

wind spruce
#

But also blazing spirit applies to m1 aswell as m2

fallow stream
#

i dont use it

#

all my damage is assail darts

#

and fgs

#

im averaging 1k-1.3k a game

#

this build is so much fun

#

i love assail

#

a group of like ragers came at us and i killed them all in like 2 seconds

wind spruce
#

Assail is the Truth

dull scroll
#

in case you don't there's a talent on the right side that gives 100% cleave on high peril that makes assail pierce more targets

raven mountain
#

extra fun with warp unbound, scrier's, and dd. Assails that hit like 8 enemies with all that bonus crit, damage, and finesse damage.

wind spruce
raven mountain
#

Meh. Thought it was 8 and 10. But if it's 6 and 8, that's still solid.

#

Haven't actually read the extended tooltip in a minute.

wind spruce
#

It's 5 with piercing shards and warp splitting

#

2 flat, 0-2 WS, 1 PS

dull scroll
#

there's a breakpoint table on steam somewhere

raven mountain
#

Also tbf, I usually run it with EP, not DD. xD

fallow stream
dull scroll
#

I don't know how that guy figured this cleave thing would apply to assail but that discovery was sexy af

fallow stream
#

kuli did it

dull scroll
raven mountain
#

Eyyyy, it was 10.

#

Just with ep, too

fallow stream
#

10 max depenent on hitmass but yes

summer prairie
#

there was discussion about it before the patch was even out

raven mountain
#

Moreso just happy that I wasn't crazy.

summer prairie
#

assail treats all targets as hit mass 1 except things you can't cleave

upper sun
raven mountain
#

Does it always hit head, or does it just aim for head?

wind spruce
upper sun
wind spruce
upper sun
#

i shall barrel lumii immediately

mossy shell
#

Is this the class for the mentally unstable?

raven mountain
#

Nah, that's zealots.

upper sun
#

all classes are

#

this game is for the mentally unstable

mossy shell
dull scroll
mossy shell
wind spruce
mossy shell
#

Without us you cant do a mission properly

#

You need us to clear hordes

dull scroll
#

no lol

#

we need you for the book

mossy shell
#

Yes lol

dull scroll
#

and cleanse

#

you joking

#

we have purge

upper sun
#

no one needs cleanse unless its one condition in havoc

dull scroll
#

yes, but if you have the goo puddles you gotta have cleanse

mossy shell
dull scroll
#

don't even compare purge to that thing, just FGS mogs that sword

wind spruce
#

Psyker has the best horde clear in the game

#

Just keep pretending you can actually read that book you're always shouting at

raven mountain
#

at best, zealots are needed for clease, long-term gold toughness, and maybe for holding down a crusher train, but that's only if there's no voidblast.

raven mountain
#

Helpful for revives, too.

mossy shell
#

At least we have grenades and can yeet the boss to the void

raven mountain
#

boss yeet is funny, agreed.

dull scroll
#

grenades? it's the book, that is funny at least

raven mountain
#

yeah, I don't like zealot grenades.

#

Stun can force a clutch revive, but fire are mid, and knives fall off hard with pus hardening.

dull scroll
#

the fire grenade was pretty dope, but fatshark took the nerf bat to it and made mob AI avoid fire

fallow stream
#

@brazen rampart

#

yeah i like this

brazen rampart
fallow stream
#

this is why i bring trauma instead of recon btw

#

idk why my clips are so lolng

#

medals breaking

#

0:39

near gale
#

Since my xbox controller broke I have to use my keyboad if I want to play the a link to the past rogue lite for now... and even after remapping the keys it feels hella fucking weird playing zelda with a keyboard :/

fallow stream
#

@near gale wanna play with me

#

come play darktide horse man

near gale
raven mountain
#

Less good when you have to throw multiple good shots into pus-hardened enemies.

fallow stream
#

la creatura..

#

the only reason to bring knives in havoc is if you need the tax points for something important

dull scroll
near gale
#

I was struggling playing a single player game lol

fallow stream
dull scroll
#

oh pfft

near gale
#

The only reason I wasn't struggling playing division 2, earlier, was because of the scanner pulse skill :/

#

Being able to get visual information on where enemies are is so useful for someone like me who has perception issues(more so for division 2, since the enemies are way harder for me to spot than in darktide) <.<'

fallow stream
#

its probably for the best

#

im fucked up n

#

rn

vernal pier
#

second time ive bothered checking in on this chat and this is also the second time people have been talking about the division

near gale
#

I feel that... I am not exactly fucked up... I just am a bit out of it

upper sun
near gale
#

I blame Clad

#

For me not dying in my rogue lite run before the save point

dull scroll
#

mk8's m1 spam is the sexiest horde clear moveset ever to grace this game

fallow stream
#

i wonder what killed my teammate...

upper sun
#

tbh

fallow stream
#

spoiler

dull scroll
fallow stream
#

it wasn't ragers

upper sun
#

ragers need a hitmass reduction if they keep spawnining in these numbers

#

WHAT

dull scroll
near gale
upper sun
#

dont say sniper

fallow stream
near gale
upper sun
fallow stream
#

yes

dull scroll
#

what, how do you know he got killed by that scab bruiser

#

in that mess

quartz barn
#

They need to add this mission to havoc

fallow stream
#

a barrel, you're right!

quartz barn
#

The start is gonna be so scuffed whatthefuck_heresy

near gale
#

x.x

torn kernel
#

bruisers lowkey hit hard when you're not paying attention to em ngl

zinc wedge
#

Dump on devil knife is mobility right?

fallow stream
#

wow you're so good at this

near gale
quartz barn
#

But now use a gif where the bruiser doesnt even touch you, but you get hit anyway

#

And where theyre sliding mid attack

near gale
quartz barn
#

Mutielaunch pogryn

dull scroll
#

launch you right through a wall, their ultimate atk

near gale
cold geode
upper sun
#

oopsie i forgot :3

torn kernel
upper sun
#

i love it

#

relay station goes to shit after the second elevator

#

or airlock

torn kernel
#

tru

zinc wedge
#

What the fuck do I do with smite

#

Do I charge it or

torn kernel
#

pubs just seem to get split up so much there idk

dull scroll
#

but yes, charge it

near gale
dull scroll
#

dont' run around m1'ing like a noob

#

with smite

zinc wedge
#

I'm still lvl 12 in psyker

#

Human plasma gun

dull scroll
#

charge it like a pro and you'll be lvl 30 in no time

near gale
#

Basically it's a point and stun adventure @zinc wedge

zinc wedge
#

I've got smite, a fully 500 devil's knife and the orbital strike staff

summer prairie
#

orbital strike staff sounds good

dull scroll
#

that's how voidblaster imagine themselves

#

but in reality

summer prairie
#

trauma rmb

near gale
dull scroll
#

imagination will set you free

near gale
#

Now a grenade in descent, in division 2? Yeah, blowing yourself up with your own grenade does set you free of descent in division 2

fallow stream
upper sun
#

how long until the division phase is over i dont like that game 😡

upper sun
fallow stream
upper sun
cold geode
#

Id throw out a now kiss gif right now if I could

near gale
torn kernel
near gale
#

1 of me is too much as it is lol

brazen rampart
upper sun
near gale
#

lol the highest shop prices in the a link to the past rogue lite is labeled "5th avenue"

brazen rampart
upper sun
#

yes

zinc wedge
#

Just went through a game barely using my devil's knife

vernal pier
#

hi, how do you all typically build your voidstrikes? i've been trying some stuff but nothing's really clicking well

fallow stream
#

nexus and surge if i remember correctly

upper sun
#

yeah nexus and surge are most common with notable perks being crit chance flak maniac and carapace maybe unyielding as well

vernal pier
#

i see

fallow stream
#

@upper sun wanna play a few games

upper sun
vernal pier
#

any combat abilities or keystones that help?

upper sun
#

warp siphon and disrupt destiny help most as keystones

#

shriek reduces your peril so you can use it more and gaze buffs you further but increases your peril so it can be risky

#

i use this for voidstrike

vernal pier
#

interesting, that's pretty close to what i've been running lol. i'll give it a shot though, thanks :D

quartz barn
#

Voidstrike weakest staff, pls buff

vernal pier
upper sun
quartz barn
#

Blast doesnt really do anything

vernal pier
#

the more you know lol

#

time to gamble at brunt's

quartz barn
#

Also genuine question, does blast radius decrease impact dmg?

#

So smaller blast radius = higher impact dmg

#

Or is dmg just static

#

With blast damage being the same regardless of its radius

upper sun
vernal pier
#

i've never been a huge fan of scrier's but i might give that a shot as well

fallow stream
#

weird nodes at top

upper sun
polar swan
#

Is psyker class really bad ? I got my zealot to level 30 and wanted to try psyker but people say he's weak.

cold trellis
#

Why would you run assail with voidstrike? Wouldn't smite make more sense?

#

Psyker is tied for strongest class with zealot

vernal pier
#

who is saying psyker is weak lol

upper sun
#

nah assail is fine you can clear a bit with it and you can also help stack DD

polar swan
vernal pier
#

first mistake i suppose

upper sun
glacial vapor
#

Psyker can be fragile but not weak

cold trellis
upper sun
#

before the crafting update it was by far the most expensive class to level

ebon sonnet
upper sun
#

i spent 4x on psyker than any other class

dull scroll