#psyker-class
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It isn't.
EE abuse is a thing.
you are already running shred/riposte and have scriers
Become immune to ranged attacks for as long as you hold the trigger.
this puts you at like what, 50% crit?
the cdr for you and your team is much more valuable
yeah no 10 cd that's like more than 2 curio worth of cd, for everybody, that's for book, shout, and your own scarier
You have SG up practically all the time, not huge benefit to grabbing it for yourself
there's no way
It flat out isn't, scriers is inherently a selfish setup, you want to capitalize on that.
It's aurics, the team exists to go in 4 separate directions
That 3s of cooldown--so crucial.
not only that, you need scriers up as much as possible to abuse warp unbound
exactly, what's better, 5 more crit or your own scarier coming up 10% faster
If you need to abuse warp unbound that much then you have a serious skill issue.
it's cd, come on guys
which is why you take By Crack
Also, btw, scriers is a 25s cooldown.
whats the game plan when a pack of gunners appears
you need warp unbound to clear them out with your staff
Crit, abuse EE, like I said.
-10 seconds because of the lingering effect
And if youre using a staff you can literally ignore them to begin with.

Wait
you're taking
Suppression is a thing, plus 3 staves have stun/stagger/suppression mechanics.
yeah?
you're running DD, so take a voidstrike
Goofy.
scriers vs is lovely tho
voidstrike works great with scriers dd
Fair, but also nah, take a gun
i love my boomstick
It does, I agree, but weren't we talking meta?
you are capped at 100% peril so you get like 50% crit on your voidstrike
Anyway, 25s cooldown, effectively 15 bc warp unbound, 10% cooldown reduction aura is 2.5s shaved off.
Also
there are exceptions of course, if you are running memes like voidstrike and voidblast blaze, then yeah maybe crit
Voidstrike wants crit so hard
if you are wanting a meta build you wouldnt be using fgs to begin with lol
It's a worthless aura to be scriersmaxxing.
but meme aside, choice is clear
Fgs literally is meta, outside of duelling sword.
Methinks you do not know what you are talking about.
Like at all.
ok man enjoy your no cdr build lol
Shush you
and your bad faith arguments
Outside of ds is outside of meta π
i can solo carry just fine with this build
I do, and I top damage, and I'll mog you in every match I happen to find you in.
:)
Plz do not the bragging
we've someone here with top damage, dang
solo carrying in aurics isn't really a flex lmfao
you can anime protag the whole way across an auric map with scarier FGS
The only time I have ever been outdamaged when running a scriers build is in havocs vs a purg user (infinite scaling vs horde density, go figure) or when I'm throwing on purpose to terrorize my friends.
I solo clutch aurics, and I suck, so it's not a flex 
you pull that in high havoc you gonna have a bad time
I've cleared h40 with gunker. :P
so did I, that build can delete boss
and offer good cc
the FGS on the otherhand
heh
^
This was with scriers/dd/smite, fgs, and blue recon. Note that top damage is purg staff user.
My job is to delete shooters. :)
smite, whole thing discounted
Did the purg run shriek or bubble?
Nah, smite is used while under warp unbound.
Bubble.
Shriek wouldve made the damage disparity much different.
I wont lmao.
Infinite scaling vs density is a thing.
If I had like, infinite 2 charge fgs slashes, I might.
That's disables.
I went down once.
am i getting alot of warp attack kills tho for soul stealer? i guess assail?
someone else said to use seers presence which i get its op. so i'll try both* with this change it grabs the assail buff to just help with gunner clear, and drops the movespeed on skriers, but gets the increased stacks which ive heard some peopel say is viable now for DD
Mfw my ammo runs out because I frame canceled my reload wrong and never noticed:
okay, nvm
How long was this h40? 
but still, if you are not running scarier and going all in on FGS, there's no way purge/voidblast meta would not do better than FGS as primary by far
Seer's presence is super unnecessary for scriers, thats just some wacko using staff scriers and attempting to get 2.5s sliced off to abuse warp unbound harder. You want prescience as your aura. Assail aux nodes aren't necessary if you're weaving correctly, drop it for scriers tdr.
40 or so minutes.
Here's a PF game of about 40 minutes
Also, just a reminder, you are running perfectionism on that build.
Kinda hard to manage that.
cool, makes sense, ill try it ty.
last question whats tdr?
that looks like moebian 21st
Perfectionism is a pain, and I haven't even tried it with h40
Toughness damage reduction.
oh derp
Scriers has a node for it thats flat 20% when you pop it.
duh lmao
Probably
hey I run inferno warp unbound because I like fucking around with it
it aint meta by any means lmao
what about the increased stacks vs stack duration on DD, is it worth it or nah
enter room of shooters
pop scriers before they shoot me
I take barely any damage
same with crit sb voidblast
stack duration is generally nicer imo
Taking increased duration instead of perfectionism is the normal thing to do.
Perfectionism is hard to keep up with.
10s stacks work without cruel fortune
If your team is even slightly slower than you then you will be running ahead by yourself to maintain it.
25 stacks need it
And yeah 10s stacks means you don't have to take cruel fortune, I just take cruel fortune because it means I can do other stuff and let my stacks fall without worrying too much bc I can get them back instantly.
Yes on all that there.
You can run either riposte or shred for your crit blessing, then either precog or wrath, depending on whether or not you want to take warp splitting.
Perks are carapace unyielding.
cool.
this is the old columnus?
Yup.
I prefer using a recon with infernus for ammo economy and shooter racism but vraks autogun has higher dps across the board.
ya i used to only pull it out for big groups of oh shit gunners or something i couldnt handle so used it over recon but i got a recon too
oh the MK VIII has a secret h3 i never realized i just did messing around with it
you can chain with a light
thats pretty horizontal
Yes
lights 123 heavy repeat is the horde combo
more like 1234 heavy repeat ya?:
Secret h3? It doesnt.
Mk6 has the secret heavy.
oh its just h1 i guess
somehow i thought h1 was the overheav
think i was just always sprinting
flakiak best on fgs or carapace to help w/ crushers is ok too?
I like Vraks for ammo dumping into bosses
I use assail for shooters anyway, so no point in recon on gunker builds
For Boss DPS, specifically, or in general?
if only single elite then yeah the mk5
it's really the fact you can spray like a long ranged purge
and no recoil
vraks kinda wants you to ADS on bosses more than recon
I don't do that
I literally just ammo dump
weakspots? Dumb
Just shoot

Vraks has better DPS even if you assumed Recon was hitting weakspots and Vraks wasn't.
but surely recon can do it more safely and/or doesn't need full uptime
don't run the weakspot, run dum dum and inferus
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
you got enough crit already if you going gunpysker
π°
I don't.
I'm saying Recon
with dumdum and infernus
hitting boss weakspot
is lower dps
than Vraks into boss belly
but i can't do the funny dumdum raking fire BoN racism
fuck BoN all my siblings hate BoN
See, I hate chaos spawn.
Like, Recon isn't terrible DPS, but I think people overvalue it for the lack of recoil
Just aim 
Those fuckers always decide to jump me and ignore the whole team.
literally just tested on the holodeck, it's about the same, during one scarier session, and vraks need 2 clips
i value recon because i can get a lot of its boss damage with just a gentle burst and then i can go back to melee
or one of the mks is pretty close, something like that
but Vraks just dumps ammo quicker
and has better crits
both does ~1/3 nurgle belly
Why do clips matter?
sounds highly unlikely vraks has higher bodyshot dps than recon weakspot
To be fair, I wasn't accounting for reload when I was talking earlier
yeah that too
maybe not but the point is dps about the same
i think recon VIc would have better ttk overall than XII
Imagine reloading
vraks has really high finesse
sincerely, staffker
while recon has like.. none
quelling is like reloading your brain if you think about it
recon is probably 3x more dps like that

so anyway infantrylas relevant when?
it's a lot easier to keep scriers up on recon if you're magdumping a boss too so like, get to 30, stab, dead boss
Wait, how are you testing DPS to get percentages? Are you running a timer?
yeah, the time is the scarier itself
recon is >3.6k boss dps if you can actually reliably hit the weakspot with dd stacks/some SG
before it reaches 100
uuuuhhhhh
the reload on vraks fucks with SG in my experience
I hope you have no quelling on that build
text to speech
quell on crit
TTS
Tranquility Through Slaughter
ah okay, but no I don't have that allocated
TTS gives basically infinite uptime on anything with a fire rate
ok revolver time
1k vraks boss bodyshot dps vs 3.6k recon weakspot
time to go through all your mags if not hitting the head
Eh, it's only like
I had plans before the update even dropped
half my ammo
And itβs just
I don't use it anyway
Not practical

Rest in peace lawb alt shell spam scriers
Recon las > vraks.
TTS on the DB fucks hard
2 shots and all your peril is gone
along with everything in the general direction
Met a competent rando, tonight, on my 1st brute conscripts run. I played with them for several runsa fterwards. >:3
runs afterwards*
Is it not that great? Yes. Do I love it anyway? Yes.
the best way to play 
why do guns deal diff weak spot arg
all weapons have their own weakspot stats
now I got refresh my cs recoil skills π
There used to be a mod that autoadjusted for recoil iirc 
also I take back what I said about FGS 8's shitty heavies, it the first heavy that's shitty, skip that and you are gold
well yes
recoil script
cuz the overheads are literally just the mk6

The mod was removed from Nexus
so, no
good
Idk, I kinda want to see a shooter with the typical parts removed
no recoil
no ammo
but yeah, bad for Darktide 
but yeah, the overheads are the same for the mk6 and mk8
no lol, the FIRST heavy for mk8 is absolute dog shit
yea
star wars outlaws (ur blaster has inf ammo)
well, yeah, but that's not the shared overhead
the other model's heavies straight up are all armor piercing
I'm saying there's a move in the combo that is shared, that being the overhead.
yea, it gets energy for special slightly faster from horde
They have the same damage as well
7's got this stab mixed in the heavies, baits you into thinking it does more, but it's about the same as the other model
6
obviously I need to sleep nao
7 is truly the luckiest number
π
wat
The stab for the 6
wdym 'baits you into thinking it does more'
skipping that shitty heavy both models avgs 4 hits to kill a crusher
The stab is more damage than an overhead, less damage than the push stab
for the mk 8
but overall the stab
lets the mk6 have the higher single target dps
well yeah
There's a reason people say both are good 
I'm taking the 8, that light clear is absolutely busted
They are very samey, the difference in damage rarely changes anything
there's no comparion, not when the heavies are this close
Sad to see someone pick the wrong mk π /s
The proper combo for horde clear on 6 is actually super samey with the mk8, to the point where it's the same situation
Isnβt mk8 horde clear just h1 + l2 loop
skip that h1, all light

h1 bait
Yes.
i just light spam too
You don't have to dodge or block with 6
Why
You do have to push, but that leads into a horizontal light sweep
yes you do lol it's not wide enough to cover the sides
leaves you open for atk
I managed to get this on my 3rd zealot... Until I can find a collateral dumped one this will do. <.<
why push when I can just mindless lights π
Trash, 0/10
It's kinda funny, tho, that it has 59% mobility at 490 rating >_>'
Why push when I can just mindless heavies π

The thing that makes mk6 better imo is the stab after slice and the fact its version of optimal combos doesn't need the push attack
just the push
you don't have to do the push atk on 8, just light atk first to get ride of that shitty h1
Know what's sad about my last run? One of the psykers triggered the daemonhost... but there were 2 hounds that I had to kill so I couldn't 2 shot the heresy daemonhost with my crucis before it ran off
The optimal heavy combo is push atk -> stab
The overheads are worse DPS
No
yes
I literally timed this with a spreadsheet
I even had 4 martyrdom stacks for the easy heresy daemonhost 2 shot
π
The push atk hurts the dps, yes
but the stab on the mk8 is stronger than the mk6 to compensate
It doesn't compensate enough
but it's better than you might think
smite + shriek psyker spotted in auric
sad to see in this day and age
smite only too this mf was pissing me off
Hi! Can anybody help with build my Psyker? out of all the classes I'm having trouble with Psyker the most.
Huh... this dockets shop rotation has 2 perfect end roll heavy swords for my 3rd zealot... weird...
It's a sign
but he already has a perfect end roll heavy sword... x.x
Can anybody give me tips on how to build Psyker?
Depends on what you want to build
Staffs, guns, swords etc
Then you just used up your luck for another weapon lol
I saw how a Psyker carried a game for us, with a staff. Can you give me diffrent Psyker builds and playstles so I can try them all out, and see what I like and fits me
? So about those tips. Every time I play Psyker, I kinda forget I'm a Psyker, my most played class is Zealot.
It very much depends on what you want to use. Staff builds are different across each variant. Electro staff is quite easy to use and is capable of dealing with most things.
I run it with Brain rupture, venting shriek and whichever keystone out of the left or centre you prefer. Pair it with something for horde clear like an Illisi force sword
K. so what about Melee? And can you show skill tree
I don't have mine handy but there should be plenty of options if you have a look on youtube/reddit/game lantern
This is one I found on the steam guide, it's close but I use more of the top nodes and the centre keystone
@glacial vapor That tree is outdated, thats the old version of the tree. Theres not a ton of difference but theres definitely some changes
I know, it was just an example
If you want something melee oriented, here ya go.
This build makes you move at ludicrous speeds when you're killing your marked targets and are under scriers gaze.
Run it with a force greatsword or an illisi. Your ranged choice will depend on which one you take, a recon for fgs, or something to deal with armor for illisi.
Bolt pistol or revolver is a nice choice.
would recommend deimos over illisi with that setup
illisi lost a lot of its luster with the dawn of warp splitting
and with enough buffs (assail weave/dd/perhaps sg) deimos horde clear is perfectly serviceable
and ST is considerably better
illisi and deimos need some qol buffs i swear
No they don't.
explode
There's no buffs they need.
frog go to sleep
No.
illisi could use an attack speed buff
it feels awful without the node like you're attacking through butter
It was fine before, it's better now.
funny how i went from swearing by illisi to thinking it's actually worst in the force sword family
Maybe cope about it.
its legit mid
tbf obscurus buffs and warp splitting played a huge role in that
Heya was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for what would be the best dump stat for force great swords?
frog built like a forum user frfr
i have an issue
NO, i dont have that issue
works on my machine :3
Warp res
See you lost your argument by saying you have an issue, when clearly, its not an issue.
You are the one with the problem, not the weapon itself.
Noob.
I got one with everything 80 bit a 60 cleave
Thought Iβd ask before investing mats
its literally an issue you cant tell me that illisi attack speed is fine when compared to every other weapon psyker has
warp res
Fads gotcha
I got two 60 mobility Force swords before I got 60 warp res.
Felt strange to get rid of them when it's optimal on most other weapons lol
It would be nice if it was a little more effective against armor.
not the point of illisi noob
and it works fine against flak
but then again, that's what we have biglisi for
it is indeed fine vs flak but dogwater vs cara/unyielding
yeah i dont even even understand the low unyielding damage
like why? bosses already have warp resist
why nuke the melee from doing any unyielding damage
i don't think it has low adm vs unyielding
but it has no boss damage
since no strikedowns
sucks vs bulwarks too
sure you can do empower PA heavy but it is not fantastic
still need like three of those to take down a bulwark
wait what we talking about the stabby force sword right? that thing is good vs cara even without charging
it's dogwater vs horde
no we're talking sweepy
illisi
ohh yes that one sucky sucky
stabby is just better overall now
What else would be a viable but fun option to use?
fgs
FGS 8 is the de facto anime sword of this game
graph of how illisi was made
how does surge cancelling work for the charged shot? I just qq when firing and that's it?
That's easier, but I think grenade cancelling is slightly faster
but in practice whatever is more reliable/easier to do is best
there's a 150ms chain_time to unwielding but no chain_time to grenade/bb
If you aren't using guaranteed weapon swap, qq is going to fail if you press it before chain_time, I think
I am, blew myself up too many times when edging peril 
Thanks for the info
Blitz cancel sounds like cheating
cancel sounds like cheating
the dark forbidden arts of the electro staff must not become public knowledge 
m1 quell cancel fix when
yes fix it for everything except purge
flor
Yush.
Soon
less words more simple
now-ish
looks fine
Battle meditation bad, curios do not need cdr on them (bait perk), weapons built wrong.
no
i wouldnt dump quell speed on electro staff or mobility on deimos tho
Not fucking carapace maniac.
its a smite build
Also yeah, I didn't catch quell speed dump.
he's only using EK for crushers
Sword has mob dump too.
and bosses maybe
You have a deimos right there.
and cdr on curios is good
No it isn't lmao.
Ah it's you again
yeah aside from the dump stats it seems fine though i wouldnt recommend a smite build in general since its kinda less fun than other builds
xD
Idk where this sudden influx of cdr on curios has come from with builds lately but it's getting kind of annoying.
Yes Syllo, do not damage the braincells
It's not just psykers, it's every class.
Oh shit I have ran cdr for 2 years. Time to hide.
same

Oh boy, I love trading 15% hp for 3s of cdr!
cdr is more useful on psyker because you spam creeping flames so often the 4 seconds make a big difference
Its so good!
its not the same as zealot where you have IoD
Joke on you I have 3x hp 3x toughness 3x cdr. 
Because fatshark made a jank game and teammates are dogshit lol.
Sounds like excuses
it's on you if your team wipes
I mean, you asked.
all content soloable
same tbh
Don't copy unsanctioned builds.
No gunner resist, I'm dead.
Dodge?
Always copy
It's tru I die every game to gunners.
then ask unsanctioned to stop posting them on youtube
When you finally get less noob (hopefully soon), you should try dockets, xp and curio chance
it's better
Thank you I shall do it. Sounds very based.
FS should let us take off curios.
if there was negative curio chance i would run it 
You can, can't you xd?
I ran dockets before the crafting rework 
I ran dockets until the crafting update, basically since release
U mean like a curio farming method?
yes
imagine 20% chance to NOT get a curio
Not many people have full 430 curios
Do they? I don't want to delete them. π
I run cdr on zealot too now what?
I have it on every class I play, every build... Oh right, I'm the bottom barrel heresy player.
Maybe I'm just thinking of my Ogryn cos I never put curios on them lmao
i need gunner resist on zealot tho π
we are running it just to annoy that one guy though
No if you're good like me.
I run it because I can
So just try to git gud.
I run gunner resist on trauma because I'm bad.
no
And remove gunner resistance.
i have 3x hp 3x toughness and 2x gunner 1x bomber on zealot
Bomber 
Cdr cdr cdr.
Not the bomber resistance 
yes
since it works on tox bombers
I'd go with corruption or flamer personally.
i shrimply chastise into flamers
I shoot flamers' backs.
nooo pls dont
:(
Next to a ledge too.
Exploding flamers are honestly one of my favorite things, it looks awesome
And you can deal a lot of damage to your team

Also enables some testing in the meat grinder without mods. Annoying to do tho.
they disabled that now
no testing allowed stop learning NOW
fire doesnt burn your toughness anymore just the explosion
Was there a hotfix last night??
just for the sacrifice bug
No it's a bug on your end/steam
That's how big it actually is
lmao ok thanks
Gunner resistance apparently
Are you saying I've cleared hardest contents with crap curios?
mutie resist
Yes, heh.
Bonus, carried a bottom barrel heresy player with it, yes.
Is the heresy player in the room with us?
You are certified havoc 40 tru survivor
Top 1% dt player
Nu. Heresy cat that just skitters around all panicky.
Yes, hi.
I thought second difficulty was called uprising
No, that's where you belong. You get bonked in uprising.
I was bored and tired 
I have a question, a buddy of mine was yapping alot about a psyker build, and he sent me to a youtube vid called "sith lord psyker" which seems to use the force GS and a bolt pistol. I understand the exploit of using the bolt pistol blessing to proc bleed on the warp slice, but i dont see how else it's meant to do big deeps
Like the video implied it had more weight than just the exploit, but I feel like i'm being smoothbrained by not seeing it
figured seasoned psykers could shed some light
@deft stump you used this recently, @upper sun this is probs your fav build too xd
Thank
Itβs kinda funny how divisive of a topic curio substats are, when they have so little impact overall
I just like understanding how things work.
And the build video does NOT explain the intricacies well
I hope we get a curio rework soon and get some proper stats there like vermintide (idk, barkskin or smth like that)
I DO love getting stuck in with the greatsword though
Afaik it's literally just what you said though. That extra bleed can help chip away targets esp if they are further away
Just take one of the names of the talents in the rpgs that make you stronger, True Grit, for example
Wat. I haven't done it for ages. You know the build I use.
I thought you were talking about it y.day
I mean i'm always down for a good Force GS build
thats what led my buddy to show me that one
No, that was my EK.
Eldritch Knight?
The Bpistol+Moonlight, he said he knew already.
ElectroKinetic
nevermind
I know the build I asked about how im meant to play it outside of the fuggin
whatcacallit
boltpistol exploit
cuz that'll get patched
eventually
what build
You have too much faith in Rotund Sharpedo.
@upper sun
No
I have the right amount of faith in Overweight Carcharadon
it will happen eventually
it wont be soon
nah i only play staves on psyker
it may not even be forseeable
but eventually
I mean, I'm more than happy to add GS builds
Who knows, hotshot also still affects melee and lethal proximity still affects vet nades
ic
But am outside. Would give you a modded version to try, but my main nonsense is low peril gen vent kf ek.
ek is electrokinetic
Switch to FGS to tank DH for MM.
idk what Kinetic... Flayer?
eh im fine for headpop
the only blitz im not super keen on for psyker is assail
it just doesnt feel good to use to me
personal pref
@upper sun you have a GS build I could nab?
I like smacking people as a psyker
not me no
peepers
gs is greatsword no?
yeee
i havent played it much
I run that, easy to swap to smite+ the +1 to targets.
I use flak cara, but err... others can tell you better breakpoints.
I just hate crushers.
I run unyielding instead of flak
Unyielding can honestly work. If you like bonking bosses.
Yh, the sword is so effective against monsters that the extra uny feels rly good for me
Wha whom dare ping i
And yes, that build, if you have maxxed warp charges... long ass smite possible. Vent before 97%.
Just don't do it unless you are playing in a premade doing 4 smykers of the apocalypse.
what about the blessings?
I run deflector wrath.
Ask someone for a more damage build.
For the sword.
For Illisi, deflector+slaughterer. Since I usually just run that.
And you run this with... the EK staff?
But yeah, they are more defensive.
what do you even run on that these days
For FGS, blessings literally don't even matter because the thing is a monster. We had a run where we all ran different blessings and all performed roughly the same.
The key is usually having 1 damage/crit blessing with 1 cleave blessing tho
hmmm...
Wrath is the main cleave blessing
damage is... lacking
precog could work
Do note some ppl want mettle and that warp damage on crit talent for breakpoints. So you might wanna tweak based on feel for those.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I just like having "inf" peril to derp around.
Iirc I run unstable and riposte but then found I hate riposte and used unstable wrath
Unstable precog maybe
whats a decent ranged weapon to run with it?
Fuck knows
You are the ranged weapon
lol
honestly they're only divisive because there's a massive amount of misinformation that continues to circulate throughout the community to this very day. almost all of that division vanishes if you're in a conversation with a group of people that all know how these things actually work
You just use something with fast mobility so you can slide around
Blessings for force sword?
You want another build if you use another staff or gun.
Oh nvm found it in pins
by "another staff" you mean something other than EK?
What is there to misunderstand? Maybe aside from toughness regen only affecting coherency? Itβs all just simple stat increases
I use ek primarily, sword of both kinds as a secondary and for hordes.
I think they're more divisive because of playstyle and perception, not necessarily misinformation
The build is for the staff.
If you want a meleeker, you wanna pick up that 10% melee atk speed on the right and maybe warp splitting and the quell on melee maybe.
Basically, is why I said best tweak stuff on feel for one. What one uses is how they play.
Basically. They also have basically no impact on gameplay imo
what do you run on EK?
Rat is a big example. Uses the most sus Trauma staff to a great degree.
Flak cara. Have I mentioned how much I hate crushers and maulers?
blessings dingus
probably one of the most flabbergasting takes i've read in this discord honestly
Flurry and nexus.
Flak elites is good on trauma
You ask what I run, could be perks or blessings.
I don't get hit so all defensive blessings are useless
I know how to press ctrl so all the stamina blessings are useless
CDR sometimes doesn't even result in getting meaningful extra usages
You typed for a while there, how many times did you rewrite that only to still be somewhat insulting? 
Be flabbergasted all you want
Is EK. Trauma is more, what Rat runs.
I know, it's comical
His take is
IT HAS TO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE I SAY SO BECAUSE I GOOD PLAYER COS I AGREE WITH SOME PEOPLE AND MY PEOPLE ARE NEVER WRONG >:((((
the guide talks about fire trauma for voidblast
does it mean blazing spirit by that?
Yes. Fire trauma (voidblast) is blazing spirit + warp nexus with flak + crit chance
guide talks about flurry instead of nexus
huh ..
That's a different build
Flurry is only with rending shockwave

Well, there's WW something now. Just try out stuff and tweak it to your feel, it never hurts.
But I also get just wanting a coherent build to play.
Thus, look at a baseline, try it, tweak stuff you don't need to cover for other things and yeah.
I use brain power for psyker builds and DO NOT for zealot.
Test? Try? Read? no
On psyker, yes I will lmao
if i go warp flurry, what is the next best blessing to combo it with?
rending shockwave?
rending trauma is flak + cara with flurry + rending shockwave
me smort 
rending shockwave is actually brittleness 
Is zealot, just go right, left, whatever and it'll be fine.
Brittle Shockwave sounds a lot less intimidating
britle blast
some guy pulled a 2mil with rending trauma in my game
used to think that staff is all fluff
No. It gud, just traumatises me.
Depends on length, what other people are running and how good they are
As a zealot, I can do more than a rending trauma if I'm going sicko
zealot is about boss dmg, I've only seen zealots top general dps when they are spamming flammer
Trauma is great, if your comp is full of ppl without the capability of dealing with an ambush or a cluster of specialls like bullwarks and maulers trauma can save u
that is true
one interesting pairing I've seen is truma as a secondary to FGS builds
used to just knock crushers/maulers down
so as to safely FGS
Boss and specials/elites in some circumstances ya
Purg makes the elites kinda messed up tho
can be good however i prefer going with a chain weapon since fgs and trauma works for basically the same thing
Squeak (is someone interested in the Voidblast Staff?)
So i go with either with force sword or a chainaxe for bosses and lone specials
Is truth. Most would question it but eh, play based on feel. You could go hard meta but feel uncomfortable with it and play worse.
my main staff and still one of the trickiest to use
Squeak (It is the truth, but rat's build has been optimised to be quitely literally the best version of voidblast psyker)
squeak (It is a very bold claim rat knows, but it is one that rat can prove simply through gameplay)
Hard to use a staff where its knockdown effect is actually a debuff, for voidblast i mean.
squeak (it is the hardest staff to use in its base form, and the hardest to master by far too)
Also i feel its inconsistent agaisn't ragers? sometimes they get interrupted and knocked down sometimes they simply refuse lel
squeak (as long as the charge blast is under their feet they will be knocked)
Yes, but is playstyle. Most people just wanna fling a ton of stuff to the floor and not learn pinpoint booms.
I think if they are in the middle of an attack they will not get knocked down
squeak (tho rat is sure others can give a deeper explination, as rat doesnt really focus too much on the smaller details)
squeak (thats completely fine, as long as you have fun, thats all that matters in rat's opinion)
average size
Why feel and fun. Outright copying is great for starting out but always good to tweak to what you need.
If ragers are green, the servers or being funny / lag issues/ hit registration issues, if the center is off too much, etc then the rager won't go down.
Idk what the min charge for them is or if it was changed.
squeak (but rat really enjoys becoming the best that rat can be, so rat's playstyle is the culmination of all of rat's mistakes and efforts) ;D
squeak (yup)
Being the best you can be means playing in a consistent fashion though. And that's v.boring imo
squeak (but rat does like to nerd out when people want to really learn the voidblast)
squeak (its rat's way of sharing everything rat has learnt playing with that one build for hundreds of hours)
not sure about that one lel
squeak (noh, it just means having a mentality where you continuously find ways to improve)
squeak (at least thats what it means to rat)
Which at some point means you need to break consistency to try something new to improve your skill set
For example. The power of holding S is a good one
If you press S, you're more likely to win than someone who doesn't press S
squeak (thats what rat tries to always do, rat likes experimenting with different aspects of the build, playstyle and how rat scurries in general)
squeak (rat must have spent hundreds of hours speedrunning missions as a trauma psyker before havoc released)
Yeye, I was just highlighting that there's a gap between performing your best this second and also spending time to potentially improve
squeaK (rat died many many times, but rat also learnt so much from that experience, it was super fun)
I just wish the game challenged you instead of having to self impose it
self challenge
random builds
@thorn pond squeak (oh also if you arnt sure what rat is talking about, this is how rat scurries)
Pray you don't get kantrael lasgun.
I saw that one bruv
people are a bit touchy by the title
Just tell me to use any heavy weapon. Idyll found out why I don't.
some players are weird
nice trick
squeak (thats okay, rat did consciously choose to make it a contoversial title)

squeak (but rat is just happy to share some of what rat has learnt, and also to learn from others)
Yes. This reminds me.
should I be worried
;D
zazy thinks build is good but its just too normal for zazy
hwat
@wet charm Pat pat. 
So you talked about ignoring small details before @wet charm pls tell me what do you consider small (cm) pls
they are a rat not a dog '-'
squeak (oh, rat doesnt really focus too much on stats. As long as rat has a solid overall understanding of builds, the rest really comes down to customising it for how you scurry)
it's uh
cheese flavoured
squeak (rat has noticed that many people here go really deep into numbers and theoretical max dmg etc)
Thank you for giving me validation for my average size @wet charm
my average stats
i mean
squeak* (cough* void cough*)
squeak (but ultimately we are mere humans and rats, and shouldnt tunnel vision on that)
Cheese flavoured bone XD noice
I susbscribe to the holy numbers
Number good
Become a number
ascend from rat to number
i will admit, it does drive me up a wall when discussing more essoterric builds and i get numbers tossed in my face and ds is better more damage XP
squeak (haha, same here)
squeak (rat thinks people sometimes miss the point entirely that we need to compensate for mortal mistakes)
Spun my random build picker wheel for you.
DB shotgun, tac axe, BB, elite aura, shriek, EP
Number legit don't matter in this game though. Like, the numbers are only an indication of what could be better. If there's one trait always better than the rest for example
squeak (in this example, rat takes an extra wound curio and crys will because of how often rat pops spamming voidblast secondaries)
or proving Pots does jack shit
or we just want to make our sword set people on fire
squeak (the cost of sacrificing a skill point and curio for a bit of redundancy more than pays its self off, as explained in the guide)
squeak (but many would argue that you shouldnt take either in the first place)
ive been considereing an extra wound on my fire melee build cause im always redlining peril and one mistimed push attack has popped me more times than i care to admit
squeak (it is hard to argue against that given you play perfectly, but rat is just a rat and makes mistakes often, especially with how much rat animation cancels)
squeak (so rat values the wound and crys will very much) :3
I just warp unbound for fire sword.
squeak (indeed)
That's true optimisation right there
yeab but then i lose fire shout
and i cant stack the fire as high
squeak (but then again, rat has nothing against people talking numbers all the time. Some people are drawn much more to stats and wants to share their knowledge with others. And rat is glad to have those people in the community too, as we all benefit)
Oh ur actually trying to do more damage.
uno momento
if only blazing spirit + souldrinker worked on oneshots π
squeak (but we should all try to have an open attitude to different opinions, and too often does rat see pointless arguments which go nowhere)
squeak (that was rat's rant for the night) ._.
I just meme crit max and dump damage and finesse for SG because I want all fire to come from the sword or sword kills.
stab peeople? kill people?
heretics gone?
heretic kill? stab heretic? 
Welcome to human society
what the soda
they're multiplying oh god
So you mean the dog treats I get cos Carrot loves cheese/milk treats?
wait i thought dogs were lactose intolerant
HA
Not mine, it seems. Girl drinks any kind of milk and eats all cheese except the uber stinky ones.
you would probably like my build @strong gulch i constantly spam warp slice to 100% peril for funny shouts and keep cleave up and it has the added benifit of staggering litterally everything within 30m (ogryns not included) and crit chance reaches 47% with both riposte and souldrinker up and its enough to keep empathic up without gaps in melee. its probably the most fun i have playing psyker now
Careful with cheese. Some are bad for your dogs
Is just brie and camenbert. And the usual american cheddar.
she's got good taste
camembert my beloved
You listed the two they should avoid
π
She's always a lil floofy princess.
If it's lactose intolerance, she isn't since milk doesn't do much.
If you mean fat content, is as treat so only a moderate amount.
You realise I eat the same cheese as well.
Look, at that point is they messed up and contamination happened. It can happen to literally any food item.
Some are more prone then others
Dogs have a sensitive system
Hence why they canβt eat as much as we do
Itβs your dog. Your decision. Iβm just informing you of the risks
I had to educate myself because I didnβt realize dogs canβt have goldfish snacks for example because of the garlic powder in it
I would never want to risk it
Not even kidding.
Have to check before buying or go 1 source treats.

Second psyker has three +3 stamina curios now, but I don't get any health curios 
So you can tank DH and help ppl with MM.
Game knows what you need
No, I actually have a maxed out ogryn 
Hrmph.
So a dash of oyster sauce and some light soya sauce makes good soup base for dumplings and fishballs.
Is cooking rn.
Oh and mussels.
@nocturne dust oyster sauce mentioned
I'm Asian is my excuse for it.
tell it to the judge
Also, I throw it on pork tongue as a marinade that ends up being a sauce for rice.
dump stat inferno force staff?
Warp resist.
It is tasty and that's all that matters!
yeah
wanted to get 100 levels? there goes 5k diamantine
very well I'll allow it
When you'd spend tens of thousands of plasteel to hunt for a blessing. 
To be fair, that's what food should be. The grimdook of 40k be depresso.
me when i spent 15k plasteel trying to get manstopper only to realize I CANNOT ROLL BLESSINGS BELOW TIER 3

yes it good
That's the standard.
hello sparkheads
hola
Nothing happened other than sus soup recipe.
don't make me look
Hi! Im looking for someone to do the Malleus Monstrorum penance with since it's a private lobby achievement. Anyone down to join? Sorry if this is the wrong channel to look for that.
You want my soup recipe? It's just oyster sauce and soya sauce with pepper and whatever you throw in.
Which was dumplings, fishball with roe and mussels. Yes.
Well, and water, but that's kinda obvious.
@deft stump you are up for helping with MM, clad doesn't have internet
After my nomz.
Then we try fishing for DH.
Early DH.
Unless you somehow do 50% damage and kill a BoN early.
That works as well.
Ask Idyll.
Is Empathic Evasion worth taking?
If you crit loads, yes.
Depends on the weapon
flame staff
If you have spare points, yes.
okayyyyy
very nice
Welp... I went back to play some division 2 again and it turns out they changed how rifles work altogether... they are now full auto, instead of semi-automatic... and that is making aiming them quite difficult... :/
But... despite that: They have my favorite descent rotation up so I am extremely happy none the less! :3
I can go if needed.
very surprised that game is still kicking + didn't they delay the new dlc like 8 times already
Also rip the to MM help rates until Clad is back.
you can probably do MM in havoc now
It is so disorienting having the rifles being automatic... it has made my accuracy go from like... 20%-40% to 10%-25% >.>'
people still play that game???
i never was a huge rifle fan when i played but i see how that could be annoying simply because of my like, 2 experiences using them
Cos uhhh, you gotta carry my psyker to the DH for it lmao.
I want to see you try to out-dps an h40 shriek purg






