#psyker-class

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dull scroll
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ppl shilling the crit aura need to put down the koolaid

nocturne dust
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It isn't.

brazen rampart
steep loom
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you are already running shred/riposte and have scriers

brazen rampart
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Become immune to ranged attacks for as long as you hold the trigger.

steep loom
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this puts you at like what, 50% crit?

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the cdr for you and your team is much more valuable

dull scroll
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yeah no 10 cd that's like more than 2 curio worth of cd, for everybody, that's for book, shout, and your own scarier

nocturne dust
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You have SG up practically all the time, not huge benefit to grabbing it for yourself

dull scroll
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there's no way

nocturne dust
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Screw the team

brazen rampart
nocturne dust
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It's aurics, the team exists to go in 4 separate directions

raven mountain
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That 3s of cooldown--so crucial.

steep loom
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not only that, you need scriers up as much as possible to abuse warp unbound

dull scroll
steep loom
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no seers no psykinetics

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eugh

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eugh

brazen rampart
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If you need to abuse warp unbound that much then you have a serious skill issue.

dull scroll
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it's cd, come on guys

nocturne dust
brazen rampart
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Also, btw, scriers is a 25s cooldown.

steep loom
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whats the game plan when a pack of gunners appears

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you need warp unbound to clear them out with your staff

brazen rampart
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Crit, abuse EE, like I said.

torn kernel
brazen rampart
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And if youre using a staff you can literally ignore them to begin with.

nocturne dust
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Wait

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you're taking

brazen rampart
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Suppression is a thing, plus 3 staves have stun/stagger/suppression mechanics.

nocturne dust
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Scrier's

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with a staff

steep loom
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yeah?

brazen rampart
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Yeah you are insane.

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Run a gun.

steep loom
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you're running DD, so take a voidstrike

brazen rampart
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Goofy.

torn kernel
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scriers vs is lovely tho

steep loom
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voidstrike works great with scriers dd

nocturne dust
torn kernel
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i love my boomstick

nocturne dust
steep loom
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you are capped at 100% peril so you get like 50% crit on your voidstrike

brazen rampart
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Anyway, 25s cooldown, effectively 15 bc warp unbound, 10% cooldown reduction aura is 2.5s shaved off.

nocturne dust
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Also

dull scroll
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there are exceptions of course, if you are running memes like voidstrike and voidblast blaze, then yeah maybe crit

nocturne dust
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Voidstrike wants crit so hard

steep loom
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if you are wanting a meta build you wouldnt be using fgs to begin with lol

brazen rampart
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It's a worthless aura to be scriersmaxxing.

dull scroll
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but meme aside, choice is clear

nocturne dust
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I would never skip crit aura with Voidstrike

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Surge needs surging

brazen rampart
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Methinks you do not know what you are talking about.

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Like at all.

steep loom
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ok man enjoy your no cdr build lol

nocturne dust
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and your bad faith arguments

dull scroll
steep loom
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i can solo carry just fine with this build

brazen rampart
brazen rampart
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:)

nocturne dust
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Plz do not the bragging

summer prairie
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we've someone here with top damage, dang

torn kernel
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solo carrying in aurics isn't really a flex lmfao

dull scroll
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you can anime protag the whole way across an auric map with scarier FGS

brazen rampart
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The only time I have ever been outdamaged when running a scriers build is in havocs vs a purg user (infinite scaling vs horde density, go figure) or when I'm throwing on purpose to terrorize my friends.

nocturne dust
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I solo clutch aurics, and I suck, so it's not a flex chadgryn

dull scroll
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you pull that in high havoc you gonna have a bad time

brazen rampart
dull scroll
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and offer good cc

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the FGS on the otherhand

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heh

nocturne dust
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Imagine not using my beloved, Bubble

dull scroll
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^

nocturne dust
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Damage is a dump stat anyway

brazen rampart
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This was with scriers/dd/smite, fgs, and blue recon. Note that top damage is purg staff user.

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My job is to delete shooters. :)

nocturne dust
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Did the purg run shriek or bubble?

brazen rampart
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Nah, smite is used while under warp unbound.

brazen rampart
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Shriek wouldve made the damage disparity much different.

nocturne dust
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Dang Sitgryn I want to see you try to out-dps an h40 shriek purg

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It would be funny KEKW_ogryn

brazen rampart
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I wont lmao.

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Infinite scaling vs density is a thing.

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If I had like, infinite 2 charge fgs slashes, I might.

dull scroll
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went down 6 times, the most in team πŸ˜…

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I don't know serge

brazen rampart
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I went down once.

crude cape
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am i getting alot of warp attack kills tho for soul stealer? i guess assail?

someone else said to use seers presence which i get its op. so i'll try both* with this change it grabs the assail buff to just help with gunner clear, and drops the movespeed on skriers, but gets the increased stacks which ive heard some peopel say is viable now for DD

brazen rampart
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Mfw my ammo runs out because I frame canceled my reload wrong and never noticed:

dull scroll
dull scroll
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but still, if you are not running scarier and going all in on FGS, there's no way purge/voidblast meta would not do better than FGS as primary by far

brazen rampart
brazen rampart
nocturne dust
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Here's a PF game of about 40 minutes

brazen rampart
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Also, just a reminder, you are running perfectionism on that build.

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Kinda hard to manage that.

crude cape
summer prairie
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that looks like moebian 21st

nocturne dust
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Perfectionism is a pain, and I haven't even tried it with h40

brazen rampart
crude cape
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oh derp

brazen rampart
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Scriers has a node for it thats flat 20% when you pop it.

crude cape
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duh lmao

nocturne dust
sturdy reef
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hey I run inferno warp unbound because I like fucking around with it

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it aint meta by any means lmao

crude cape
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what about the increased stacks vs stack duration on DD, is it worth it or nah

brazen rampart
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enter room of shooters
pop scriers before they shoot me
I take barely any damage

sturdy reef
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same with crit sb voidblast

nocturne dust
brazen rampart
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Perfectionism is hard to keep up with.

radiant frigate
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10s stacks work without cruel fortune

brazen rampart
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If your team is even slightly slower than you then you will be running ahead by yourself to maintain it.

radiant frigate
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25 stacks need it

crude cape
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and on FGS - run model 8 typically and riposte/precog?

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model VIII

brazen rampart
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And yeah 10s stacks means you don't have to take cruel fortune, I just take cruel fortune because it means I can do other stuff and let my stacks fall without worrying too much bc I can get them back instantly.

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Yes on all that there.

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You can run either riposte or shred for your crit blessing, then either precog or wrath, depending on whether or not you want to take warp splitting.

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Perks are carapace unyielding.

crude cape
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cool.
this is the old columnus?

brazen rampart
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Yup.

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I prefer using a recon with infernus for ammo economy and shooter racism but vraks autogun has higher dps across the board.

crude cape
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ya i used to only pull it out for big groups of oh shit gunners or something i couldnt handle so used it over recon but i got a recon too

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oh the MK VIII has a secret h3 i never realized i just did messing around with it

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you can chain with a light

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thats pretty horizontal

radiant frigate
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Yes

crude cape
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is that your ideal horde clear

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and light spam is your oh shit horde clear?

radiant frigate
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lights 123 heavy repeat is the horde combo

crude cape
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more like 1234 heavy repeat ya?:

brazen rampart
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Mk6 has the secret heavy.

crude cape
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oh its just h1 i guess

brazen rampart
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Mk8 horde clear is h1 l2 loop.

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Yeah.

crude cape
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somehow i thought h1 was the overheav

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think i was just always sprinting

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flakiak best on fgs or carapace to help w/ crushers is ok too?

nocturne dust
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I like Vraks for ammo dumping into bosses

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I use assail for shooters anyway, so no point in recon on gunker builds

dull scroll
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the burn and no coil is better imo

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tried both recently

nocturne dust
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For Boss DPS, specifically, or in general?

dull scroll
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if only single elite then yeah the mk5

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it's really the fact you can spray like a long ranged purge

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and no recoil

torn kernel
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vraks kinda wants you to ADS on bosses more than recon

nocturne dust
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Purg has better DPS on single targets

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than Recon

dull scroll
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of course

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talking about recon vs mk5

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aka the vraks columbus

nocturne dust
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I literally just ammo dump

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weakspots? Dumb

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Just shoot

crude cape
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i do crouch and aim weakspot with autogun dump

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personally lol

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if i can*

nocturne dust
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Vraks has better DPS even if you assumed Recon was hitting weakspots and Vraks wasn't.

radiant frigate
dull scroll
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don't run the weakspot, run dum dum and inferus

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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you got enough crit already if you going gunpysker

nocturne dust
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😰

nocturne dust
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I'm saying Recon

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with dumdum and infernus

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hitting boss weakspot

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is lower dps

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than Vraks into boss belly

torn kernel
radiant frigate
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fuck BoN all my siblings hate BoN

raven mountain
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See, I hate chaos spawn.

nocturne dust
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Like, Recon isn't terrible DPS, but I think people overvalue it for the lack of recoil

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Just aim chadgryn

raven mountain
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Those fuckers always decide to jump me and ignore the whole team.

nocturne dust
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Vraks does have the same ammo-to-damage ratio iirc

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as Recon

dull scroll
radiant frigate
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i value recon because i can get a lot of its boss damage with just a gentle burst and then i can go back to melee

nocturne dust
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or one of the mks is pretty close, something like that

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but Vraks just dumps ammo quicker

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and has better crits

dull scroll
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both does ~1/3 nurgle belly

summer prairie
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sounds highly unlikely vraks has higher bodyshot dps than recon weakspot

nocturne dust
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To be fair, I wasn't accounting for reload when I was talking earlier

radiant frigate
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yeah that too

dull scroll
torn kernel
nocturne dust
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Imagine reloading

radiant frigate
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vraks has really high finesse

nocturne dust
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sincerely, staffker

radiant frigate
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while recon has like.. none

radiant frigate
summer prairie
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recon is probably 3x more dps like that

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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huh interest, weakspoint vrak wins

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75% nurgle hp vs 50% recon

nocturne dust
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Well yeah

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Of course Vraks wins

radiant frigate
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so anyway infantrylas relevant when?

torn kernel
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it's a lot easier to keep scriers up on recon if you're magdumping a boss too so like, get to 30, stab, dead boss

nocturne dust
dull scroll
summer prairie
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recon is >3.6k boss dps if you can actually reliably hit the weakspot with dd stacks/some SG

dull scroll
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before it reaches 100

nocturne dust
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uuuuhhhhh

torn kernel
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the reload on vraks fucks with SG in my experience

nocturne dust
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I hope you have no quelling on that build

dull scroll
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what quelling can possibly affect this test when you are using a gun

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on a boss

torn kernel
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quell on crit

nocturne dust
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Tranquility Through Slaughter

dull scroll
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ah okay, but no I don't have that allocated

patent jacinth
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TTS gives basically infinite uptime on anything with a fire rate

nocturne dust
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a firerate

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INFINITE SG SHOTGUN? pogryn

radiant frigate
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ok revolver time

patent jacinth
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I tried

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Lawb is just sad at this point

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Too much effort

summer prairie
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1k vraks boss bodyshot dps vs 3.6k recon weakspot

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
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Eh, it's only like

patent jacinth
nocturne dust
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half my ammo

patent jacinth
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And it’s just

nocturne dust
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I don't use it anyway

patent jacinth
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Not practical

nocturne dust
patent jacinth
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Rest in peace lawb alt shell spam scriers

nocturne dust
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Wait, Bonbon has that head weakspot

plucky flax
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Recon las > vraks.

nocturne dust
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no

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Come back when there is braced Recon

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braced > Recon

plucky flax
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You don't need to ads with recon lasgun.

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It's super accurate.

nocturne dust
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I can't ads with braced

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Superior

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10/10

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No notes

torn kernel
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2 shots and all your peril is gone

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along with everything in the general direction

near gale
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Met a competent rando, tonight, on my 1st brute conscripts run. I played with them for several runsa fterwards. >:3

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runs afterwards*

nocturne dust
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Is it not that great? Yes. Do I love it anyway? Yes.

torn kernel
dull scroll
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fk it I'm converted

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that's just way to much weakspot dmg

nocturne dust
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No, forget Vraks

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forget recon

dull scroll
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why do guns deal diff weak spot arg

nocturne dust
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braced

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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now I got refresh my cs recoil skills πŸ˜”

nocturne dust
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There used to be a mod that autoadjusted for recoil iirc KEKW_ogryn

dull scroll
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...

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back in the days we called that a

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aimbot

nocturne dust
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Well, it doesn't aim, just remove recoil

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recoilbot?

sturdy reef
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why are there so many silent bursters

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3 on silo cluster so far

dull scroll
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also I take back what I said about FGS 8's shitty heavies, it the first heavy that's shitty, skip that and you are gold

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
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cuz the overheads are literally just the mk6

sturdy reef
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people recoil script in this game?

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wut

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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so, no

sturdy reef
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good

nocturne dust
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Idk, I kinda want to see a shooter with the typical parts removed

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no recoil

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no ammo

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but yeah, bad for Darktide KEKW_ogryn

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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no lol, the FIRST heavy for mk8 is absolute dog shit

buoyant maple
dull scroll
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it's designed to only clear horde or something

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that first heavy bounces on carapace

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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the other model's heavies straight up are all armor piercing

nocturne dust
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I'm saying there's a move in the combo that is shared, that being the overhead.

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
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They have the same damage as well

dull scroll
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7's got this stab mixed in the heavies, baits you into thinking it does more, but it's about the same as the other model

nocturne dust
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7

dull scroll
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6

sturdy reef
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the model that has the lights of the 8 and the heavies of the 6

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peak

dull scroll
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obviously I need to sleep nao

nocturne dust
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πŸ™

nocturne dust
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The stab for the 6

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wdym 'baits you into thinking it does more'

dull scroll
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skipping that shitty heavy both models avgs 4 hits to kill a crusher

nocturne dust
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The stab is more damage than an overhead, less damage than the push stab

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for the mk 8

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but overall the stab

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lets the mk6 have the higher single target dps

nocturne dust
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There's a reason people say both are good KEKW_ogryn

dull scroll
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I'm taking the 8, that light clear is absolutely busted

nocturne dust
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They are very samey, the difference in damage rarely changes anything

dull scroll
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there's no comparion, not when the heavies are this close

nocturne dust
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The proper combo for horde clear on 6 is actually super samey with the mk8, to the point where it's the same situation

dull scroll
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it's not, best testing it for past however long

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not even close

buoyant maple
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Isn’t mk8 horde clear just h1 + l2 loop

dull scroll
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8 can just spam light and perma stuns everything

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don't even have to dodge or block

dull scroll
nocturne dust
dull scroll
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h1 bait

brazen rampart
prime elk
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i just light spam too

nocturne dust
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You don't have to dodge or block with 6

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
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You do have to push, but that leads into a horizontal light sweep

dull scroll
dull scroll
near gale
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I managed to get this on my 3rd zealot... Until I can find a collateral dumped one this will do. <.<

dull scroll
near gale
nocturne dust
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The thing that makes mk6 better imo is the stab after slice and the fact its version of optimal combos doesn't need the push attack

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just the push

dull scroll
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you don't have to do the push atk on 8, just light atk first to get ride of that shitty h1

near gale
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Know what's sad about my last run? One of the psykers triggered the daemonhost... but there were 2 hounds that I had to kill so I couldn't 2 shot the heresy daemonhost with my crucis before it ran off

nocturne dust
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The overheads are worse DPS

dull scroll
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you joking right, the push time shits on your dps

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takes a literal dump

nocturne dust
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No

dull scroll
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yes

nocturne dust
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I literally timed this with a spreadsheet

near gale
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😭

nocturne dust
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The push atk hurts the dps, yes

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but the stab on the mk8 is stronger than the mk6 to compensate

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It doesn't compensate enough

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but it's better than you might think

lone wing
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smite + shriek psyker spotted in auric
sad to see in this day and age

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smite only too this mf was pissing me off

neat orchid
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Hi! Can anybody help with build my Psyker? out of all the classes I'm having trouble with Psyker the most.

near gale
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Huh... this dockets shop rotation has 2 perfect end roll heavy swords for my 3rd zealot... weird...

glacial vapor
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It's a sign

near gale
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but he already has a perfect end roll heavy sword... x.x

neat orchid
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Can anybody give me tips on how to build Psyker?

glacial vapor
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Staffs, guns, swords etc

glacial vapor
neat orchid
neat orchid
glacial vapor
neat orchid
glacial vapor
fiery stratus
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@glacial vapor That tree is outdated, thats the old version of the tree. Theres not a ton of difference but theres definitely some changes

glacial vapor
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I know, it was just an example

brazen rampart
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This build makes you move at ludicrous speeds when you're killing your marked targets and are under scriers gaze.

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Run it with a force greatsword or an illisi. Your ranged choice will depend on which one you take, a recon for fgs, or something to deal with armor for illisi.

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Bolt pistol or revolver is a nice choice.

radiant frigate
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would recommend deimos over illisi with that setup

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illisi lost a lot of its luster with the dawn of warp splitting

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and with enough buffs (assail weave/dd/perhaps sg) deimos horde clear is perfectly serviceable

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and ST is considerably better

brazen rampart
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Counterargument, force greatsword is right there.

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:P

radiant frigate
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Yes

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i recommend fgs over either

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but deimos over illisi

upper sun
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illisi and deimos need some qol buffs i swear

brazen rampart
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No they don't.

upper sun
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explode

brazen rampart
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There's no buffs they need.

upper sun
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frog go to sleep

brazen rampart
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No.

upper sun
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illisi could use an attack speed buff

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it feels awful without the node like you're attacking through butter

brazen rampart
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It was fine before, it's better now.

radiant frigate
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funny how i went from swearing by illisi to thinking it's actually worst in the force sword family

brazen rampart
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Maybe cope about it.

upper sun
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its legit mid

radiant frigate
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tbf obscurus buffs and warp splitting played a huge role in that

cerulean urchin
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Heya was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for what would be the best dump stat for force great swords?

upper sun
cerulean urchin
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I gotcha

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Ty

brazen rampart
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You are the one with the problem, not the weapon itself.

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Noob.

cerulean urchin
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I got one with everything 80 bit a 60 cleave

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Thought I’d ask before investing mats

upper sun
cerulean urchin
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Fads gotcha

radiant frigate
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illisi overhead when?

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illisi thrust when?

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illisi anystrikedown when

glacial vapor
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I got two 60 mobility Force swords before I got 60 warp res.

Felt strange to get rid of them when it's optimal on most other weapons lol

brazen rampart
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It would be nice if it was a little more effective against armor.

upper sun
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and it works fine against flak

radiant frigate
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it is indeed fine vs flak but dogwater vs cara/unyielding

upper sun
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yeah i dont even even understand the low unyielding damage

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like why? bosses already have warp resist

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why nuke the melee from doing any unyielding damage

radiant frigate
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i don't think it has low adm vs unyielding

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but it has no boss damage

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since no strikedowns

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sucks vs bulwarks too

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sure you can do empower PA heavy but it is not fantastic

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still need like three of those to take down a bulwark

dull scroll
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it's dogwater vs horde

radiant frigate
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illisi

dull scroll
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ohh yes that one sucky sucky

cerulean urchin
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Shame cause unless you go with meta with dueling sword

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Which gets so boring

radiant frigate
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stabby is just better overall now

cerulean urchin
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What else would be a viable but fun option to use?

radiant frigate
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fgs

dull scroll
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FGS 8 is the de facto anime sword of this game

upper sun
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graph of how illisi was made

radiant frigate
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accurate

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both force bigswords are good

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prefer mk 6 personally

cerulean urchin
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Ok ty

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Just started my first psyker

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At lvl 22 so far

solar flint
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how does surge cancelling work for the charged shot? I just qq when firing and that's it?

summer prairie
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That's easier, but I think grenade cancelling is slightly faster

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but in practice whatever is more reliable/easier to do is best

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there's a 150ms chain_time to unwielding but no chain_time to grenade/bb

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If you aren't using guaranteed weapon swap, qq is going to fail if you press it before chain_time, I think

solar flint
plucky flax
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Blitz cancel sounds like cheating

radiant frigate
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cancel sounds like cheating

dull scroll
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the dark forbidden arts of the electro staff must not become public knowledge staregryn

fiery stratus
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m1 quell cancel fix when

upper sun
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yes fix it for everything except purge

paper dust
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flor

deft stump
autumn lark
potent echo
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less words more simple

upper sun
old void
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Just wanted to test on auric damnation

summer prairie
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looks fine

brazen rampart
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Battle meditation bad, curios do not need cdr on them (bait perk), weapons built wrong.

summer prairie
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no

brazen rampart
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Yes.

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EK wants flak crit chance or flak elites.

upper sun
brazen rampart
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Not fucking carapace maniac.

upper sun
brazen rampart
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Also yeah, I didn't catch quell speed dump.

summer prairie
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he's only using EK for crushers

brazen rampart
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Sword has mob dump too.

summer prairie
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and bosses maybe

brazen rampart
summer prairie
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and cdr on curios is good

brazen rampart
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No it isn't lmao.

summer prairie
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Ah it's you again

upper sun
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yeah aside from the dump stats it seems fine though i wouldnt recommend a smite build in general since its kinda less fun than other builds

hearty wolf
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xD

brazen rampart
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Idk where this sudden influx of cdr on curios has come from with builds lately but it's getting kind of annoying.

hearty wolf
#

Yes Syllo, do not damage the braincells

brazen rampart
#

It's not just psykers, it's every class.

plucky flax
#

Oh shit I have ran cdr for 2 years. Time to hide.

summer prairie
#

same

plucky flax
brazen rampart
#

Oh boy, I love trading 15% hp for 3s of cdr!

upper sun
#

cdr is more useful on psyker because you spam creeping flames so often the 4 seconds make a big difference

brazen rampart
#

Its so good!

hearty wolf
#

Why do you need hp?

#

noob

upper sun
#

its not the same as zealot where you have IoD

plucky flax
#

Joke on you I have 3x hp 3x toughness 3x cdr. whatthefuck_heresy

brazen rampart
#

Because fatshark made a jank game and teammates are dogshit lol.

hearty wolf
#

Sounds like excuses

summer prairie
#

it's on you if your team wipes

brazen rampart
#

I mean, you asked.

summer prairie
#

all content soloable

plucky flax
brazen rampart
marble crater
#

Dodge?

strong gulch
#

Always copy

plucky flax
upper sun
hearty wolf
#

it's better

plucky flax
strong gulch
#

FS should let us take off curios.

upper sun
hearty wolf
marble crater
#

I ran dockets before the crafting rework chadgryn

summer prairie
#

I ran dockets until the crafting update, basically since release

old void
hearty wolf
upper sun
#

imagine 20% chance to NOT get a curio

hearty wolf
#

Not many people have full 430 curios

strong gulch
plucky flax
deft stump
hearty wolf
upper sun
summer prairie
#

we are running it just to annoy that one guy though

plucky flax
marble crater
#

I run it because I can

plucky flax
#

So just try to git gud.

strong gulch
#

I run gunner resist on trauma because I'm bad.

upper sun
#

no

plucky flax
#

And remove gunner resistance.

hearty wolf
#

you can block bullets with zealot if you use heavy sword

#

true and real

plucky flax
#

Okay stay noob.

upper sun
#

i have 3x hp 3x toughness and 2x gunner 1x bomber on zealot

plucky flax
#

Bomber Pogryn

deft stump
#

Cdr cdr cdr.

marble crater
#

Not the bomber resistance throwing

upper sun
#

yes chadgryn since it works on tox bombers

plucky flax
#

I'd go with corruption or flamer personally.

upper sun
#

i shrimply chastise into flamers

plucky flax
#

I shoot flamers' backs.

upper sun
#

nooo pls dont

hearty wolf
#

:(

strong gulch
#

Next to a ledge too.

marble crater
#

Exploding flamers are honestly one of my favorite things, it looks awesome

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And you can deal a lot of damage to your team

plucky flax
strong gulch
#

Also enables some testing in the meat grinder without mods. Annoying to do tho.

upper sun
#

no testing allowed stop learning NOW

strong gulch
#

why do we have udder

upper sun
#

fire doesnt burn your toughness anymore just the explosion

strong gulch
#

Was there a hotfix last night??

upper sun
#

WHAT

summer prairie
#

just for the sacrifice bug

strong gulch
#

lmao there was an update

#

HD2 has a 60gb update wtf

hearty wolf
#

That's how big it actually is

strong gulch
#

lmao ok thanks

plucky flax
#

So why the hate on cdr?

#

What to run instead? PepeHands

marble crater
#

Gunner resistance apparently

plucky flax
#

Are you saying I've cleared hardest contents with crap curios?

upper sun
deft stump
#

Bonus, carried a bottom barrel heresy player with it, yes.

marble crater
#

Is the heresy player in the room with us?

plucky flax
#

Top 1% dt player

deft stump
deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
#

I was bored and tired Guarded

strange nova
#

I have a question, a buddy of mine was yapping alot about a psyker build, and he sent me to a youtube vid called "sith lord psyker" which seems to use the force GS and a bolt pistol. I understand the exploit of using the bolt pistol blessing to proc bleed on the warp slice, but i dont see how else it's meant to do big deeps

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Like the video implied it had more weight than just the exploit, but I feel like i'm being smoothbrained by not seeing it

#

figured seasoned psykers could shed some light

hearty wolf
#

@deft stump you used this recently, @upper sun this is probs your fav build too xd

strange nova
#

Thank

cold trellis
#

Itβ€˜s kinda funny how divisive of a topic curio substats are, when they have so little impact overall

strange nova
#

I just like understanding how things work.

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And the build video does NOT explain the intricacies well

cold trellis
#

I hope we get a curio rework soon and get some proper stats there like vermintide (idk, barkskin or smth like that)

strange nova
#

I DO love getting stuck in with the greatsword though

hearty wolf
#

Afaik it's literally just what you said though. That extra bleed can help chip away targets esp if they are further away

strange nova
deft stump
hearty wolf
#

I thought you were talking about it y.day

strange nova
#

I mean i'm always down for a good Force GS build

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thats what led my buddy to show me that one

deft stump
#

No, that was my EK.

strange nova
#

Eldritch Knight?

deft stump
#

The Bpistol+Moonlight, he said he knew already.

strange nova
#

ElectroKinetic

#

nevermind

#

I know the build I asked about how im meant to play it outside of the fuggin

#

whatcacallit

#

boltpistol exploit

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cuz that'll get patched

#

eventually

deft stump
#

You have too much faith in Rotund Sharpedo.

strange nova
#

No

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I have the right amount of faith in Overweight Carcharadon

#

it will happen eventually

#

it wont be soon

upper sun
strange nova
#

it may not even be forseeable

#

but eventually

#

I mean, I'm more than happy to add GS builds

cold trellis
hearty wolf
#

ic

strange nova
#

tbh

#

part of me is lazy to puill the pistol out every time i throw a wave

deft stump
#

But am outside. Would give you a modded version to try, but my main nonsense is low peril gen vent kf ek.

strange nova
#

ek is electrokinetic

deft stump
#

Switch to FGS to tank DH for MM.

strange nova
#

idk what Kinetic... Flayer?

deft stump
#

Yes. I run headpop.

#

You can probs swap to smite easily.

strange nova
#

eh im fine for headpop

#

the only blitz im not super keen on for psyker is assail

#

it just doesnt feel good to use to me

#

personal pref

#

@upper sun you have a GS build I could nab?

#

I like smacking people as a psyker

upper sun
#

not me no

strange nova
#

swish swish muthafu- oh

#

😦

deft stump
strange nova
#

peepers

upper sun
#

gs is greatsword no?

strange nova
#

yeee

upper sun
#

i havent played it much

deft stump
#

I run that, easy to swap to smite+ the +1 to targets.

strange nova
#

what do you have on your sword Kari?

#

bless/perk?

deft stump
#

I use flak cara, but err... others can tell you better breakpoints.

#

I just hate crushers.

cold trellis
#

I run unyielding instead of flak

deft stump
#

Unyielding can honestly work. If you like bonking bosses.

cold trellis
#

Yh, the sword is so effective against monsters that the extra uny feels rly good for me

paper dust
#

Wha whom dare ping i

deft stump
#

And yes, that build, if you have maxxed warp charges... long ass smite possible. Vent before 97%.

#

Just don't do it unless you are playing in a premade doing 4 smykers of the apocalypse.

strange nova
deft stump
#

I run deflector wrath.

#

Ask someone for a more damage build.

#

For the sword.

#

For Illisi, deflector+slaughterer. Since I usually just run that.

strange nova
#

And you run this with... the EK staff?

deft stump
#

But yeah, they are more defensive.

strange nova
#

what do you even run on that these days

deft stump
#

Yes.

#

That.

#

Or my gambla stick. Voidstrike on another build.

hearty wolf
#

For FGS, blessings literally don't even matter because the thing is a monster. We had a run where we all ran different blessings and all performed roughly the same.

The key is usually having 1 damage/crit blessing with 1 cleave blessing tho

strange nova
#

hmmm...

#

Wrath is the main cleave blessing

#

damage is... lacking

#

precog could work

deft stump
#

Do note some ppl want mettle and that warp damage on crit talent for breakpoints. So you might wanna tweak based on feel for those.

strange nova
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

deft stump
#

I just like having "inf" peril to derp around.

hearty wolf
#

Iirc I run unstable and riposte but then found I hate riposte and used unstable wrath

#

Unstable precog maybe

strange nova
#

whats a decent ranged weapon to run with it?

hearty wolf
#

Fuck knows

strange nova
#

electric stick?

#

void stick?

hearty wolf
#

You are the ranged weapon

strange nova
#

lol

wintry vortex
hearty wolf
#

You just use something with fast mobility so you can slide around

zinc wedge
#

Blessings for force sword?

deft stump
#

You want another build if you use another staff or gun.

zinc wedge
#

Oh nvm found it in pins

strange nova
#

by "another staff" you mean something other than EK?

cold trellis
deft stump
#

I use ek primarily, sword of both kinds as a secondary and for hordes.

hearty wolf
dull scroll
#

the only cure to misinformation

#

is the holodeck

deft stump
#

The build is for the staff.

#

If you want a meleeker, you wanna pick up that 10% melee atk speed on the right and maybe warp splitting and the quell on melee maybe.

deft stump
hearty wolf
#

Basically. They also have basically no impact on gameplay imo

strange nova
deft stump
#

Rat is a big example. Uses the most sus Trauma staff to a great degree.

strange nova
#

thats a line

#

"The most sus trauma staff" XD

deft stump
strange nova
#

blessings dingus

wintry vortex
deft stump
#

Flurry and nexus.

strange nova
#

thank

#

least my blessings are right

autumn lark
#

Flak elites is good on trauma

deft stump
hearty wolf
marble crater
hearty wolf
#

Be flabbergasted all you want

deft stump
hearty wolf
#

His take is

#

IT HAS TO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE I SAY SO BECAUSE I GOOD PLAYER COS I AGREE WITH SOME PEOPLE AND MY PEOPLE ARE NEVER WRONG >:((((

lyric prism
#

the guide talks about fire trauma for voidblast

#

does it mean blazing spirit by that?

strong gulch
#

Yes. Fire trauma (voidblast) is blazing spirit + warp nexus with flak + crit chance

strange nova
#

Welp.

#

now that i fixed my psyker build, back i go to bigman

#

thanks sparkeads!

lyric prism
#

huh ..

marble crater
#

That's a different build

strong gulch
#

Flurry is only with rending shockwave

lyric prism
#

omg ... fire trauma OR flurry .... reading the fineprint

#

apologies

strong gulch
#

No worries.

#

Reading hard

marble crater
deft stump
strong gulch
#

But I also get just wanting a coherent build to play.

deft stump
strong gulch
#

I use brain power for psyker builds and DO NOT for zealot.

#

Test? Try? Read? no

#

On psyker, yes I will lmao

lyric prism
#

if i go warp flurry, what is the next best blessing to combo it with?

#

rending shockwave?

strong gulch
lyric prism
#

me smort BigBrain

strong gulch
#

rending shockwave is actually brittleness KEKW_ogryn

lyric prism
#

ah yes

#

fatshark wording kekW

deft stump
marble crater
#

Brittle Shockwave sounds a lot less intimidating

strong gulch
#

britle blast

dull scroll
#

some guy pulled a 2mil with rending trauma in my game

#

used to think that staff is all fluff

deft stump
#

No. It gud, just traumatises me.

hearty wolf
#

Depends on length, what other people are running and how good they are

#

As a zealot, I can do more than a rending trauma if I'm going sicko

dull scroll
#

zealot is about boss dmg, I've only seen zealots top general dps when they are spamming flammer

thorn pond
dull scroll
#

one interesting pairing I've seen is truma as a secondary to FGS builds

#

used to just knock crushers/maulers down

#

so as to safely FGS

hearty wolf
#

Purg makes the elites kinda messed up tho

thorn pond
wet charm
#

Squeak (is someone interested in the Voidblast Staff?)

thorn pond
deft stump
# wet charm :3

Is truth. Most would question it but eh, play based on feel. You could go hard meta but feel uncomfortable with it and play worse.

thorn pond
wet charm
#

squeak (It is a very bold claim rat knows, but it is one that rat can prove simply through gameplay)

thorn pond
#

Hard to use a staff where its knockdown effect is actually a debuff, for voidblast i mean.

wet charm
thorn pond
#

Also i feel its inconsistent agaisn't ragers? sometimes they get interrupted and knocked down sometimes they simply refuse lel

wet charm
#

squeak (as long as the charge blast is under their feet they will be knocked)

deft stump
thorn pond
#

I think if they are in the middle of an attack they will not get knocked down

wet charm
#

squeak (tho rat is sure others can give a deeper explination, as rat doesnt really focus too much on the smaller details)

thorn pond
#

what u mean small 5 cm is not small

#

i mean

wet charm
thorn pond
#

average size

deft stump
strong gulch
#

If ragers are green, the servers or being funny / lag issues/ hit registration issues, if the center is off too much, etc then the rager won't go down.

Idk what the min charge for them is or if it was changed.

wet charm
#

squeak (but rat really enjoys becoming the best that rat can be, so rat's playstyle is the culmination of all of rat's mistakes and efforts) ;D

hearty wolf
#

Being the best you can be means playing in a consistent fashion though. And that's v.boring imo

wet charm
#

squeak (but rat does like to nerd out when people want to really learn the voidblast)

#

squeak (its rat's way of sharing everything rat has learnt playing with that one build for hundreds of hours)

wet charm
#

squeak (at least thats what it means to rat)

hearty wolf
#

For example. The power of holding S is a good one

#

If you press S, you're more likely to win than someone who doesn't press S

wet charm
#

squeak (rat must have spent hundreds of hours speedrunning missions as a trauma psyker before havoc released)

hearty wolf
#

Yeye, I was just highlighting that there's a gap between performing your best this second and also spending time to potentially improve

wet charm
#

squeaK (rat died many many times, but rat also learnt so much from that experience, it was super fun)

hearty wolf
#

I just wish the game challenged you instead of having to self impose it

strong gulch
#

self challenge

random builds

wet charm
#

@thorn pond squeak (oh also if you arnt sure what rat is talking about, this is how rat scurries)

strong gulch
#

Pray you don't get kantrael lasgun.

wet charm
#

squeak (hehehe)

#

squeak :3

thorn pond
#

people are a bit touchy by the title

deft stump
thorn pond
#

some players are weird

wet charm
#

squeak (thats okay, rat did consciously choose to make it a contoversial title)

torn kernel
wet charm
#

squeak (but rat is just happy to share some of what rat has learnt, and also to learn from others)

formal harness
deft stump
wet charm
#

;D

steel flame
torn kernel
deft stump
#

@wet charm Pat pat. KiraraSmug

thorn pond
#

So you talked about ignoring small details before @wet charm pls tell me what do you consider small (cm) pls

torn kernel
#

hey

#

hey @wet charm

thorn pond
#

they are a rat not a dog '-'

wet charm
torn kernel
wet charm
#

squeak (rat has noticed that many people here go really deep into numbers and theoretical max dmg etc)

thorn pond
#

Thank you for giving me validation for my average size @wet charm

#

my average stats

#

i mean

wet charm
#

squeak* (cough* void cough*)

#

squeak (but ultimately we are mere humans and rats, and shouldnt tunnel vision on that)

thorn pond
hearty wolf
#

I susbscribe to the holy numbers

#

Number good

#

Become a number

#

ascend from rat to number

steel flame
wet charm
#

squeak (rat thinks people sometimes miss the point entirely that we need to compensate for mortal mistakes)

strong gulch
hearty wolf
#

Number legit don't matter in this game though. Like, the numbers are only an indication of what could be better. If there's one trait always better than the rest for example

wet charm
hearty wolf
#

or proving Pots does jack shit

steel flame
wet charm
#

squeak (the cost of sacrificing a skill point and curio for a bit of redundancy more than pays its self off, as explained in the guide)

#

squeak (but many would argue that you shouldnt take either in the first place)

steel flame
#

ive been considereing an extra wound on my fire melee build cause im always redlining peril and one mistimed push attack has popped me more times than i care to admit

wet charm
#

squeak (it is hard to argue against that given you play perfectly, but rat is just a rat and makes mistakes often, especially with how much rat animation cancels)

#

squeak (so rat values the wound and crys will very much) :3

strong gulch
#

I just warp unbound for fire sword.

hearty wolf
steel flame
#

and i cant stack the fire as high

wet charm
#

squeak (but then again, rat has nothing against people talking numbers all the time. Some people are drawn much more to stats and wants to share their knowledge with others. And rat is glad to have those people in the community too, as we all benefit)

strong gulch
#

Oh ur actually trying to do more damage.

steel flame
torn kernel
#

if only blazing spirit + souldrinker worked on oneshots πŸ˜”

wet charm
#

squeak (but we should all try to have an open attitude to different opinions, and too often does rat see pointless arguments which go nowhere)

#

squeak (that was rat's rant for the night) ._.

strong gulch
#

I just meme crit max and dump damage and finesse for SG because I want all fire to come from the sword or sword kills.

patent mango
#

stab peeople? kill people? steamhappy heretics gone? steamhappy heretic kill? stab heretic? steamhappy

wispy bay
#

Welcome to human society

patent mango
#

they're multiplying oh god

deft stump
torn kernel
#

wait i thought dogs were lactose intolerant

strong gulch
#

So about that WU. I lied apparently

#

lmao

steel flame
#

HA

deft stump
steel flame
#

you would probably like my build @strong gulch i constantly spam warp slice to 100% peril for funny shouts and keep cleave up and it has the added benifit of staggering litterally everything within 30m (ogryns not included) and crit chance reaches 47% with both riposte and souldrinker up and its enough to keep empathic up without gaps in melee. its probably the most fun i have playing psyker now

last shore
#

Careful with cheese. Some are bad for your dogs

strong gulch
#

WTF all time low.

#

@marble crater SAD

deft stump
torn kernel
#

camembert my beloved

last shore
#

πŸ’€

deft stump
#

She's always a lil floofy princess.

deft stump
last shore
#

Nope

#

Subjective to more food poisoning

deft stump
#

If you mean fat content, is as treat so only a moderate amount.

#

You realise I eat the same cheese as well.

last shore
#

That logic makes zero sense

#

There’s a reason dogs can’t have most of what we eat

deft stump
#

Look, at that point is they messed up and contamination happened. It can happen to literally any food item.

last shore
#

Some are more prone then others

#

Dogs have a sensitive system

#

Hence why they can’t eat as much as we do

#

It’s your dog. Your decision. I’m just informing you of the risks

#

I had to educate myself because I didn’t realize dogs can’t have goldfish snacks for example because of the garlic powder in it

deft stump
#

More the amount they use.

#

They add those in some dog treats btw.

last shore
#

I would never want to risk it

deft stump
#

Not even kidding.

last shore
#

Yeah and I specifically avoid them

#

I do my research before buying treats

deft stump
#

Have to check before buying or go 1 source treats.

marble crater
strong gulch
#

idk too

marble crater
#

Second psyker has three +3 stamina curios now, but I don't get any health curios KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
marble crater
#

Game knows what you need

marble crater
deft stump
#

So a dash of oyster sauce and some light soya sauce makes good soup base for dumplings and fishballs.

#

Is cooking rn.

#

Oh and mussels.

radiant frigate
#

@nocturne dust oyster sauce mentioned

deft stump
radiant frigate
#

tell it to the judge

deft stump
#

Also, I throw it on pork tongue as a marinade that ends up being a sauce for rice.

lunar totem
#

dump stat inferno force staff?

deft stump
lunar totem
#

i made my own staff...

radiant frigate
#

rookie numbers (it used to be way worse)

#

thank god it isn't anymore

deft stump
lunar totem
#

wanted to get 100 levels? there goes 5k diamantine

radiant frigate
hollow current
#

When you'd spend tens of thousands of plasteel to hunt for a blessing. KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
radiant frigate
lunar totem
#

this good?

radiant frigate
#

yes it good

deft stump
#

That's the standard.

fading galleon
#

hello sparkheads

lunar totem
#

hola

deft stump
fading galleon
#

don't make me look

strong timber
#

Hi! Im looking for someone to do the Malleus Monstrorum penance with since it's a private lobby achievement. Anyone down to join? Sorry if this is the wrong channel to look for that.

plucky flax
#

Free covid PeepoHappy

deft stump
#

Which was dumplings, fishball with roe and mussels. Yes.

#

Well, and water, but that's kinda obvious.

marble crater
#

@deft stump you are up for helping with MM, clad doesn't have internet

deft stump
#

Then we try fishing for DH.

#

Early DH.

#

Unless you somehow do 50% damage and kill a BoN early.

#

That works as well.

#

Ask Idyll.

jovial kindle
#

Is Empathic Evasion worth taking?

deft stump
last shore
#

Depends on the weapon

jovial kindle
#

flame staff

deft stump
#

If you have spare points, yes.

tribal swallow
#

okayyyyy

dull scroll
near gale
#

Welp... I went back to play some division 2 again and it turns out they changed how rifles work altogether... they are now full auto, instead of semi-automatic... and that is making aiming them quite difficult... :/

#

But... despite that: They have my favorite descent rotation up so I am extremely happy none the less! :3

vernal pier
strong gulch
#

Also rip the to MM help rates until Clad is back.

summer prairie
#

you can probably do MM in havoc now

near gale
broken carbon
vernal pier
deft stump